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WE GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND HANG RIGHT MINUTES ON.
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MORNING.I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ORDER ON THE 24TH DAY OF APRIL, 2020 THIRD.
I'LL LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 9:00 AM WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE PRESENT.
THE AGENDA HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION LED BY SCOTT MARSH FROM TRINITY BIBLE CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, LED BY PARKER COUNTY JUDGE PRO TEM COMMISSIONER CONNELLEY, PLEASE STAND.
GOD, YOUR WORD SAYS THAT YOUR LOVE IS MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS.
SLOW TO ANGER, AND YOU'RE ABOUNDING AND STEADFAST LOVE.
AND GOD, WE RECEIVE THAT IN PARKER COUNTY THIS MORNING.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT OVER OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, OUR FAMILIES, OUR BUSINESSES, AND EACH INDIVIDUAL.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE THANK YOU IN THE GREAT NAME OF CHRIST.
PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICES SPRA UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO YOU.
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MOVE TO ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNDER ITEM A, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR UNDER ITEM B, TREASURER ITEMS ONE AND THREE, AND UNDER COUNTY JUDGE ITEM C, ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED TO COURT TODAY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN FOR APPROVAL WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.
UM, WE HAVE, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE DOWN THE AGENDA, UM, ON THE, NOW I CAN FIND IT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.
[8.A. Recognize Texas Butane Company's 65th Anniversary serving Parker County and honoring their dedication to the community. (Judge Deen)]
TO ITEM EIGHT A AND IT'S ALWAYS A PRIVILEGE WHEN WE HAVE THESE AND THIS, BUT THIS ONE'S SPECIAL.I MEAN, THIS ONE'S, UH, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UH, 50 YEAR ANNIVERSARIES WITH BUSINESSES AND, AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR BUSINESSES IS CRITICAL IN THIS COUNTY, UH, FOR, UH, REVENUE GENERATION.
AND IT KEEPS, IT HELPS KEEP OUR TAXES OFF THE BACKS OF OUR, OUR CONSTITUENTS.
UH, BUT THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE'S A BIGGIE.
AND, UH, ITEM A IS RECOGNIZED TEXAS BUTANE COMPANY 65TH ANNIVERSARY, SERVING PARKER COUNTY AND HONORING THEIR DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS ONE KIND OF CAUGHT ME BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT THAT CAME UP.
AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE TEXAS BUTAN, UM, THE OWNERS WHO STARTED THIS, UM, BACK IN THE FIFTIES.
AND, UH, JUDY, IF YOU WOULD, DO YOU HAVE, UH, YOU AND, UH, SOME OF YOUR FAMILY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO ON THIS? WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION WE'D LIKE TO READ.
AND, AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE'D LIKE ASK YOU TO, IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, TO SAY, SO I'M GONNA MAKE ONE LITTLE CORRECTION HERE.
MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANOTHER GENERATION BACK THAT STARTED IT.
JUDY, ANOTHER GENERATION BACK.
IF Y'ALL WANT, Y'ALL WANNA COME UP AND JUST, JUST, WE'LL, UH, SAY SOMETHING.
MORRIS, COME ON UP TO THE MICROPHONE UP HERE.
YOU AND JUDY CAN SAY A COUPLE WORDS.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH THAN HISTORY.
SO, UM, I'M GET THE WHOLE FAMILY UP THERE.
ANYBODY TO, TO THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH TEXAS.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
HOW'S THAT?
SO WE'RE REAL PROUD OF THEM AND ALL WE'VE DONE IS FOLLOW THEIR DIRECTIONS.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I RECOGNIZE IS THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT COMES ALONG COMMUNITYWIDE, THERE'S AN AD FROM TEXAS BUTANE, AND THERE'S, THERE'S A DONATION, UH, TO EVERY CHARITY.
AND, AND SO I, I'M MOST APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BEING, AS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY IN, IN, UH, PROVIDING ALL THEIR PROPANE NEEDS AS WELL.
BUT, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, UH, ABANDONED
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CEMETERY, COURTHOUSE RESTORATION, ALL THOSE THINGS, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE A THING THAT ORIGINATED AT TEXAS BUTAN.AND SO, UH, I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR, FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
BUT, BUT FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, IT IS TREMENDOUS.
AND, AND I THINK THERE'S NOT A PERSON HERE THAT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT Y'ALL DO, WHETHER IT'S THERE, WHETHER IT'S THE, IT'S THE SALE AT THE, AT THE LIVESTOCK ASSOCIATION, UH, ANNUAL SALE THAT WE HAVE.
Y'ALL SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, JUDGE.
SO I THINK WE GOT GO AHEAD, MORRIS.
YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? PULL THAT MICROPHONE UP.
WE APPRECIATE THE COURT HONORING US WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.
AND MAY MAYBE JUDY COULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SHOCK KEMP PLACE TOO.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE SHOCK KEMP PLACE WAS A BIG DRAW FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT'S NOT BEEN OPENED SINCE MOTHER PASSED AWAY, BUT EVENTUALLY, I THINK MAYBE IT WILL BE RIGHT.
BUT WE, UH, SHE WAS REALLY PROUD OF THE SHAW KEMP HERITAGE AND HER BLUE BONNETS.
AND IN APRIL WAS WHEN IT WAS YEAH.
WELL, THE ABANDONED CEMETERIES ABSOLUTELY STARTED WHEN DADDY WAS C**N HUNTING AND LAID HIS HEAD DOWN ON THE HEADSTONE.
AND HE CAME HOME AND TOLD MOTHER, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT STARTED IT BACK THEN.
SO IT STARTED WITH YOUR MOTHER HAVING FUNDRAISERS BECAUSE YOU COULD GO, YOU COULD GO TO, UH, Y'ALL SHOP AND, AND BUY ITEMS THERE.
THE MONEY WENT TOWARD THE ABANDONED CEMETERY ASSOCIATION WORK AND THE ABANDONED CEMETERY ASSOCIATION STARTED WITH YOUR PARENTS', EMPLOYEES, YOUR PARENTS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES DOING ALL THE WORK THEMSELVES.
AND IT'S EVOLVED IN WHAT IT IS NOW.
SO YOU SAY ONE PERSON CAN'T DO VERY MUCH.
MOTHER COULD ORGANIZE THE PEOPLE AND ALL OF 'EM WOULD COME HELP.
AND THE RESTORATION OF THE COURTHOUSE, SHE GOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
THE BOOKS THAT WERE SOLD TO HELP WITH THAT, THEY WERE ALL DONE RIGHT THERE IN THE OFFICE AT TEXAS BUTANE.
HOW SHE DID IT, I DO NOT KNOW, BUT WE JUST PUSHED FORWARD AND SHE CONTINUED TO WORK ON THOSE BOOKS MANY HOURS INTO THE NIGHT AND THE PARKER COUNTY HISTORY BOOKS YES.
AND THOSE WERE SOLD TO PICTORIAL HISTORY AND THE, UH, THEN JUST THE HISTORY.
YOU FIND ONE TODAY, THEY'RE WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
SO, AND THEN HOW, HOW MANY BOOKS DID SHE PUBLISH AND ARE THEY STILL AVAILABLE? UM, WELL, OF COURSE MOST OF 'EM ARE OUT OF PRINT.
BUT AFTER SHE RETIRED FROM TEXAS BUTANE, SHE PROBABLY, I, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO STOP AND THINK, BUT IT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE BOOKS THAT, AND THEN DONATED A LOT OF THAT MONEY TO THE CHARITIES THAT, UH, SHE WROTE SHE LOVED.
SO WE HAD, WE ALL HAD GOOD EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW
I'VE BEEN, I WAS FORTUNATE TO, UM, HAVE YOUR FRIENDSHIP FOR THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS IN COMING IN.
AND, UM, I WAS ALSO VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW MARY KEMP AND, UM, HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY GO WAY BEYOND IT'S INDESCRIBABLE WHAT SHE MEANT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND, AND THEN YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, UM, UH, EVEN SENT A MESSAGE TO ZANE, WHO I'VE, UM, IS A GOOD, GOOD FRIEND AND, AND YOU KNOW, PLAYED IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND, AND, UH, BUT YOUR FAMILY SPANS OUT GENERATIONS AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE.
AND IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF COMICAL.
CAUSE I WASN'T AWARE IT WAS 65 YEARS UNTIL I SAW THE SIGN AND THEN ALL THE BARBECUE.
AND THEN, SO OUR, OUR OFFICE OBVIOUSLY WENT OVER THERE.
BUT, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I JUST, JUST A, AN INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TWO 50 YEAR, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS OF, OF COMPANIES THAT HAVE DONE BUSINESS HERE, BUT 65 YEARS, UH, YOU'RE AND, AND GOING.
AND I, I FULLY EXPECT THAT IT WILL BE MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN 65 YEARS.
BUT IT'S BEEN SUCH A BLESSING TO WATCH YOU AND, AND YOUR FAMILY AND THE GENERATIONS THAT'S BEEN HERE, CONTINUE THAT LEGACY OF SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT IT MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO US.
WELL, WE THANK Y'ALL BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE PEOPLE OF PARKER COUNTY.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES US, AND THEY QUICKLY BECOME OUR FRIENDS.
AND WE LOVE PARKER COUNTY AND ALWAYS HAVE, IS THERE ANY OF, ALSO OF Y'ALL THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT.
WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE, AND I KNOW WE HAVE PEGGY HUTTON WITH THE WEATHERFORD CHAMBER THAT I BELIEVE WILL COME UP AND, AND, AND PRESENT.
UH, WE'RE ALSO VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD THAT WE HAVE.
AND, AND I DON'T WANT PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MR. HOT
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TOP.UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ON THE BUSINESS THAT'S IN? OKAY, VERY GOOD.
UH, PEGGY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND ON BEHALF OF THE WEATHERFORD CHAMBER, WE DO WANT RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR 65 YEARS.
AND LIKE LARRY'S, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY, HOW YOU REACH OUT.
SO IT'S EASY AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS AN HONOR OF YOUR 65 YEARS.
WELL, WE, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, MY HUSBAND AND I WORK MANY HOURS, AS LONG AS, AS THE BOYS, WELL AS OUR THREE SONS.
SO WHEN WE SAY WE'RE A FAMILY BUSINESS, WE ARE OUR AUTHENTIC, IT IS FIVE GENERATIONS FAMILY.
AND I'M PAYING THE SIXTH ONE THIS WEEK.
THE SIDEWALKS NOW
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, IF I MAY GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A MOTION, AND I'M GONNA READ THE, THE, THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE, UH, AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT WITH THE COUNTY, ALONG WITH PEGGY.
UH, AND THEN HAVE ALONG WITH PEGGY TO COME UP AND, AND TAKE A PICTURE, UH, IF YOU WOULD WITH US.
UM, COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS MADE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HOLDEN HAS MADE THE SECOND.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, WOULD LIKE TO, TO READ THIS, UM, CONGRATULATORY RECOGNITION ON THE TEXAS BUTANE COMPANY, INCORPORATED ON THE 65TH ANNIVERSARY.
WHEREAS SINCE APRIL 15TH, 1958, TEXAS BUTANE HAS BEEN A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS.
AND WHEREAS FIVE GENERATIONS, FIVE GENERATIONS AND TEXAS BUTANE COMPANY HAVE SERVED THEIR CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE ALSO QUICKLY BECOME THEIR FRIENDS.
AND WHEREAS TEXAS BUTANE IS A FULL SERVICE PROPANE COMPANY, WHEREAS SEVI SAFETY AND CONTINUOUS SUPPLY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THEIR TOP PRIORITY FOR PARKER COUNTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND WHEREAS FOR 65 YEARS, TEXAS BUTANE COMPANY HAS BEEN THE, THE SAME FAMILY AT THE SAME ADDRESS, WITH THE SAME PHONE NUMBER, AND SAME COMMITMENT TO GREAT SERVICE.
WELL NOW THEREFORE, IT BE, IT NOTED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF PARKER COUNTY DO HEREBY CONGRATULATE TEXAS BUTAN INCORPORATED 65 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO ALSO CONGRATULATE THEM ON THIS RARE AND MOMENTOUS OCCASION.
SO RECOGNIZE THE 24TH DAY OF APRIL, 2020 THIRD AT TEST THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF PARKER COUNTY.
AND GIVE, PLEASE GIVE THEM A HAND.
Y'ALL DO, IF Y'ALL WOULD, UH, IF Y'ALL WOULD COME UP AND, AND ALSO, PEGGY, IF YOU WOULD COME UP WITH YOUR PROCLAMATION, CYNTHIA, THIS WAY.
YOU'VE GOT SOME THIS GOT, I DON'T LIKE YOUR SIDE.
I'LL MOVE OVER HERE LIKE A THIRD.
CAN YOU MOVE OVER HERE? I'M NOT, UH, WE'RE GOOD.
RICH, WOULD YOU TRANSITION THAT OVER TO THE FRAME? WHAT'S THAT? BEFORE THEY LEAVE? YEAH, MY PARENTS TOLD THAT BEFORE.
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GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM D ONE ON THE INTER DEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS OF EQUIPMENT AND INVENTORY REPORTS.UH, KIM, DO WE HAVE ANY? NONE.
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TWO ON THE EAST ANNEX PROJECT, UPDATE AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS NECESSARY.ITEM THREE ON ACCEPT, REJECT, RENEW PC 22 DASH 15 PAVEMENT DROPPING SERVICES.
SO, PARKER COUNTY BID, PC 22 DASH 15 FOR PAVEMENT.
STRAPP SERVICES FOR PARKER COUNTY WAS AWARDED TO TRAFFIC HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE.
THEIR PREVIOUS NAME WAS TOTAL HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE.
THEY HAD A NAME CHANGE, BUT IT'S TRAFFIC HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE.
IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR RENEWAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIOD.
AND THE VENDOR HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN RENEWING FOR THE PERIOD OF MAY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2024 AT THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR UN FOR MOTION? NO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
UM, COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS MADE THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
ITEM FOUR, AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTED TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSES AND REGULATION.
ADA REQUESTS FOR INSPECTION FOR THE PARKER COUNTY EAST ANNEX KIM.
THAT IT'S BASICALLY, UM, JUST THE, ONE OF THE, THE FINAL STEP ON THE EAST ANNEX IS FOR THIS, UM, APPLICATION FOR THE ADA INSPECTION.
AND ONCE THIS IS DONE, UM, I'M PRETTY, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO RELEASE THE RETAINAGE, THE FINAL RETAINAGE.
MIKE HALLIS MADE THE, UH, COMMISSIONER HILL, I'M SORRY, UH, HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY HAS MADE THE SECOND, DO YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE OH.
AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ADDENDUM TO THE UNIVERS AGREEMENT.
I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE EXECUTION OF THIS ADDENDUM TO THE UNIVERSE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
PRECINCT TWOS, UM, WANTING TO ORDER SOME SHIRTS THAT WERE NOT ON THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
AND SO UNIVERSE HAS COME BACK THROUGH.
THESE SHIRTS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BIBLE BOARD CONTRACT.
IT JUST WASN'T LISTED ON OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, SO WE WANNA GO IN AND ADD THESE TO IT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ALL FAVOR PASSED BY VOTE GOOD.
ITEM SIX, AUTHORIZED A PURCHASE OF SOURCE PC 23 DASH 42 USED CAT ROLLER FOR PRECINCT FOUR.
I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF, UM, SOURCE WELL PC 23 DASH 42 FOR USED CATERPILLAR ROLLER FOR PRECINCT FOUR.
THIS PURCHASE WAS, IS FROM COLT CAT, UM, THROUGH THE SOWELL CONTRACT.
AND FUNDING HAS BEEN VERIFIED.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER HA HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER COLLINS THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PASS BY VOTE.
ITEM SEVEN EXCEPT REJECT RENEW PC 23 DASH 38 MOTOR FUELS FOUR RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED, UM, FOR OUR PC 2338 MOTOR FUELS FOR PARKER COUNTY FROM US ALL DBA VENTURE OIL, ATLANTIC PETROLEUM AND MINERAL RESOURCES.
AND DOUGLAS DISTRIBUTING, DISTRIBUTING AND GLOBAL MONTICELLO GROUP CORPORATION.
I'M RECOMMENDING AWARD TO US OIL AS THE LOWEST PRICE AND BEST VALUE TO PARKER COUNTY.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BUILDING AND GROUNDS TO MONITOR THE CONTRACTS CLOSELY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, UM, TRANSPORT LOADS, UM, DELIVERED AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO DECREASE THE COST.
AND, UM, US FUELS ALSO GIVES US A DOLLAR OFF, UM, FOR THEIR METER METERING SYSTEM FOR THE TANKS.
COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S MADE THE MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
THIS ITEM COMMISSIONER, HES MADE THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.
AUTO SUPPLIES WANTING TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
UM, THE FOLLOWING BIDS AND COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS FOR AUTO SUPPLIERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ORDERS.
WE DID BID PC 23 DASH 24, UM, BACK IN JANUARY AND IT WAS AWARDED TO WOODROW AUTO SUPPLY.
AND IN EARLY MARCH WE AWARDED PC 20.
WELL, WE WENT OUT FOR BID FOR PC 2333 FOR AUTO SUPPLY SPECIFIC TO PRECINCT ONE AND TWO AND IN EARLIER IN APRIL.
THAT WAS AWARDED TO PARTS AUTHORITY LLC.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO USE AUTOZONE THROUGH A CO CONTRACT NAPA AUTO PARTS, O'REILLY AUTO PARTS
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AND AMAZON.AND IF ANY OF THOSE SIX VENDORS MENTIONED ABOVE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A PARTICULAR PART OR SUPPLY IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT COULD AFFECT THE CONTINUATION OF A PROJECT OR CAUSE LOSS OF MATERIALS.
AN EXAMPLE IS HOT MIX ORDERS WOULD BE ALLOWED OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER VENDOR WHO COULD PROVIDE THE ITEM.
UM, BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, I RECOMMEND THE COURT RESIN THE VOTE TO ADVERTISE AUTO SUPPLIES AND BID AGAIN AT THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON APRIL 24TH, 2023.
WELL, I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA FIGHT FOR, IT'S A, A FAMILY BUSINESS LIKE THE ONE THAT JUST LEFT HERE FOR AO K.
IT'S A, IT'S ESSENTIAL BUSINESS FOR PRECINCT ONE.
SO I'M GONNA DO WHAT I CAN TO TRY TO GET THEM TO REMAIN A VENDOR.
CAN I ASK, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, CAUSE I'M, UH, HAVE, HAVE THEY BEEN A VENDOR BEFORE? YES.
SO IS THERE, I I GUESS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THERE A RENEWAL OF PAPERWORK THAT NEEDS TO BE SENT IN OR THERE'S A, SO THE BID THAT THEY, WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON ON THIS? THE BID THAT THEY WERE AWARDED WAS A 2019 BID THAT HAD THE ORIGINAL, UM, CONTRACT PERIOD PLUS THREE RENEWALS.
SO ALL THOSE RENEWALS HAD BEEN EXHAUSTED.
WE ISSUED THE BID, UM, TWICE AND THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TWICE TO RESPOND.
AND SO THIS, UH, THIS BUSINESS IS NOT AN ORDINARY AUTO PARTS STORE.
IT MAY BE LIKE WOODRUFF, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN WOODRUFF, BUT TED, UH, AO K AO K THEY CALL IT IS, IT'S A FAMILY RUN BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT A, UH, CITY SLICKER AUTOPARK STORE.
YOU GO IN AO K AUTO SUPPLY, YOU SHOULDN'T WEAR FLIP FLOPS CUZ YOU MIGHT STOMP YOUR TOE ON SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT AUTO PARK AND, AND IT'S ESSENTIAL TO PRECINCT ONE AND MAYBE TWO.
SO I I WE GOTTA GIVE THEM A CH THE SECOND BID THAT THEY GOT THE WRONG PAPERWORK FROM SOMEWHERE IT HAD THE WRONG DATE ON IT.
OR WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS THE THIRD TIME THEY UPLOADED OR DOWNLOADED THE CORRECT P UM, PAPERWORK.
I THINK I CAN, I CAN NIP THIS WHERE WE CAN PROCEED.
SO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMPANY IS THAT THEY GOT THE WRONG PAPERWORK OR SOMETHING HAPPENED THERE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THEY GOT THE RIGHT PAPERWORK AND SO WE COULD GO ALL DAY ON THIS.
AND, AND SO I, I THINK THERE'S CONCERN AND PERCEPTION, AND I'VE TALKED TO KIM, I'M THE PURCHASE AGENT ABOUT THIS IS WHAT WE, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS CONTINUING TO GO OUT BID UNTIL YOU FINALLY DIRECT THE BID TO WHO YOU WANT TO GET THE BUSINESS.
AND, AND THAT IS NOT THE WAY THIS COURT WORKS.
AND, AND WE, NOR HAVE WE EVER DONE THAT.
UH, THERE'S A TECHNICALITY HERE APPARENTLY THROUGH, AND, AND I I I RESPECT EACH COMMISSIONER AND, AND WANTING TO RUN THEIR PRECINCT.
UM, IF WE CAN DO THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE OPTICS OF THIS IS NOT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS DIRECTING BUSINESS BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH WHAT IS AN ETHICAL ISSUE THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR OFFICE OF WHAT THE OPTICS WOULD BE OF THIS COURT DOING THAT.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT IS NOT WHAT COMMISSIONER CONLEY IS DOING.
I'VE TALKED TO HIM, UH, IF WE DO THIS TO DO IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS ACCEPTED, THAT THE I ARE DOTTED AND T'S ARE CROSSED, AND SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
AND THAT WILL THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE? SEE? CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS TIME.
MAKE SURE THAT THE DATES ARE PROPER.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY PULLED THIS PAPERWORK UP, BUT IT WASN'T FROM THE BID SOFTWARE AND IT WASN'T SENT TO THEM.
I HAD A LONG DATE ON IT AND THAT'S WHY YOU CANCELED THAT PARTICULAR DEAL.
SO, AND, AND, AND MS. REVA, YOUR YOUR CONCERNS ARE VALID.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS COURT DOES NOT DO BUSINESS THAT WAY.
THAT WE DO NOT DIRECT BUSINESS.
WE NOT CONTINUE TO GO OUT FOR BID.
UH, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO, IN ANY CASE, UH, IN THIS SITUATION, THE PRICES ARE, ARE HALF THE COST AND MOST STUFF OVER SAVING TAXPAYERS MONEY BY USING TEDD WOLFS OR AO K.
AND IF I CAN, IF I CAN COMMENT, SO I DON'T KNOW THE GENTLEMAN AT ALL WHO RUNS THIS FACILITY.
UM, FRANKLY I HAVEN'T BEEN IN IT JUST TO BE REAL HONEST.
BUT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH OUR FOREMAN AND WITH OUR MECHANIC AND WITH OUR STAFF, AND THEY FEEL LIKE HAVING ACCESS TO THIS SHOP IS PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHERE A PARTICULAR PART IS NEEDED.
THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTY GETTING IT FROM NORMAL VENUES, AND THIS GUY, FOR WHATEVER REASON,
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SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A VALUABLE RE RELATIONSHIP TO MAINTAIN SIMPLY FROM A COST SAVINGS PERSPECTIVE TO THE COUNTY AND FOR US TO NOT HAVE TO REPLACE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ENTIRELY, BUT INSTEAD FIND A RATHER UNIQUE PART THAT MIGHT ALLOW US TO REPAIR IT AND SAVE SOME MONEY.
SO COMMISSIONER WALDEN, COMMISSIONER HALE, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENT? CANNOT RESPOND TO THAT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN A K YOU SHOULD GO IN THERE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE CARTER IVY WAS TO WEATHERFORD, SAME TYPE OF DEAL.
SO IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR PART THAT IS UNAVAILABLE FOR ONE OF THE SIX SOURCES THAT I'D MENTIONED ABOVE, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT WOULD KEEP PARKER COUNTY ROAD CREWS FROM, UM, BEING ABLE TO WORK IF IT SHUTS 'EM DOWN IN A PROJECT OR WHATEVER, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OFF OF THOSE CONTRACTS TO ANOTHER VENDOR SUCH AS THE ONE YOU'VE MENTIONED, AND BY OFF CONTRACT THAT, THAT PART THAT MAY BE UNIQUE, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY STILL.
IT'S FOR YOUR NORMAL EVERYDAY AUTO SUPPLIES, UM, WINDSHIELD WIPERS, AIR FILTERS AND OIL FILTERS, BATTERIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WERE BID IN THESE BIDS AND AWARDED IN THESE BIDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THESE VENDORS.
UM, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE, WE ALWAYS UTILIZE VENDORS FROM PARKER COUNTY FIRST.
AND, AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE LOOK PAST SOME OF THESE NATIONAL COMPANIES THAT DON'T GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT DON'T, BUT I'M TOLD THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT, BUT WHENEVER POSSIBLE, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING THERE IN THE SAME SITUATIONS EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN.
IT, IT'S, IT'S THE ONE THAT RECEIVED THE BID HERE THAT WE USE AND, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO MEET OUR NEEDS AND, AND BEAT THE PRICES OF MUCH MANY OF THESE NATIONWIDE, UH, COMPANIES THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
UM, UM, IT'S USUALLY FOR ITEMS THAT DON'T SHIP WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT, BUT I, I THINK WE NEED ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN.
I RECOGNIZE WHAT KIM IS TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S A VALID POINT.
NO, WE ARE, IT IS A VERY VALID POINT BECAUSE IT, IT, IT, IT, THE, THE, UH, THE LOOK IS THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE JUST TRYING TO SEND THIS OUT FOR BIDS UNTIL WE JUST PICKED THIS ONE COMPANY.
UH, UM, THERE ARE RULES IF THEY FOLLOWED, IF I WERE IN HER POSITION, I'D BE TELLING YOU THE SAME THING.
NOW, I GUESS IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO, TO TAKE OTHER ACTION, THAT'S, THAT'S THE COURT'S DECISION.
UH, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS HERE, THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS.
THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS IS THAT IT'S COMPETITIVE BID, JUST LIKE THE STATUTE SAYS.
SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO USE LOCAL VENDORS EVERY TIME, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST, UH, UH, VALUE FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF PARKER COUNTY EITHER.
BUT, UH, I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS FOR TRYING TO, UH, TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY, UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW VALUABLE THAT THAT RESOURCE IS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO, TO DO, TO MANAGE THE MONEY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
I'LL TELL YOU AGAIN, UH, I, I WOULD BE IN THE SAME, I WOULD BE TELLING YOU THE SAME THING THAT KIM IS THAT WE'RE YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS, DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT, BUT, BUT JOHN, YOU GOT A COMMENT, BUT WE'LL DO SOMETHING.
BASICALLY, UH, IT WAS REQUESTED WHETHER IT WAS A LEGAL ACTION OR NOT, AND IT IS LEGAL.
UH, THE ETHICAL QUESTION, IF YOU CAN'T ARTICULATE, YOU KNOW, WHY YOU'RE DOING IT, THEN THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES POTENTIALLY UNETHICAL ISSUE, BUT NOT ILLEGAL.
NOW, UM, ON THE CIVIL SIDE, THAT'S ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE.
ON THE CIVIL SIDE, IF A VENDOR FELT THAT WE WERE DOING IT FOR IMPROPER PURPOSES, THEY, THEY MIGHT HAVE A CLAIM.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK MULTIPLE, UH, MULTIPLE ENTITIES ARE BID ON THE BY BOARD THROUGH THE STATE.
SO THEY'RE NOT BID THROUGH US.
WE JUST HAVE THE ONE THAT WAS BID THROUGH US, OR TWO, I'VE NOT BEEN ASKED, BUT I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT.
I GO WITH KIM'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.
AGAIN, I THINK IT GOES AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW AND AS IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN SAID HERE TODAY THAT THERE'S BEEN A BID PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, IF WE JUST JUST KEEP GOING OUT FOR BID, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO AND KEEP GOING UNTIL WE, YOU KNOW, PICK THE VENDOR THAT WE'RE WANTING TO PICK, WHETHER IT'S VALOR OR NOT, OF WHY WE'RE WANTING SEVERAL VENDORS, WHY WE'RE WANTING THE VENDOR ONE, WE KEEP GOING OUT.
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DIFFERENT, BUT THE VENDOR.SO IT'S GOING AGAINST WHY YOU'RE GOING OUT TO BID FOR THE FIRST PLACE AND WHY THE STATUTE'S THERE OF WHY WE BID.
SO I JUST WANNA SHOW MY SUPPORTIVE AS TO WHY, WHEN KIM HAS LAID OUT THE REASONS AND YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS AND WHEN IT'S, UM, PRACTICAL TO GO OUTSIDE OF THESE BID CONTRACTS TO FIND THOSE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE SAYING, SOMETIMES THERE'S TIMES THAT, UM, THESE PARTS AREN'T AVAILABLE AND THIS VENDOR IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT IS STILL GIVES YOU THAT OPTION.
UM, COMMISSIONER HILL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD IN THE, IN THE INSTANCE WHERE THE, THE PART IS AVAILABLE FROM THESE VENDORS, BUT AT DOUBLE THE PRICE OF WHAT THE LOCAL VENDOR IS, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION? OR IS IT JUST ON AVAILABILITY OF THE PART? IT'S ON.
SO, BECAUSE THOSE OTHER VENDORS HAVE EITHER BEEN AWARDED A CO-OP CONTRACT OR AN OR ONE THAT WE SENT OUT.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY RECEIVED THE AWARD MM-HMM.
SO TO, FOR ANOTHER VENDOR TO COME IN AND PROVIDE THE SAME PART AND UNDERCUT OR BID A DIFFERENT, A LOWER AMOUNT, THEY'RE NOT UNDER, IT'S REALLY NOT TO ANYBODY.
THEY'RE UNDERBIDDING THE BOX STORE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
I MEAN, THEY CAN GO AND SEE WHAT THE OTHER STORES YOU'RE CONTRACT.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERALITIES.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING A VALID POINT IN THAT I COULD, I COULD, A VENDOR COULD SIT HERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THE FIRST PERSON BIDS AND SAY, AH, MM-HMM.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION HERE.
I'M COMFORTABLE, THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION HERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY THE STATUTE IS IN PLACE.
IT'S TO PREVENT WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT THE SITUATION HERE? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT TO ME.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT, THAT THE REASON THEY WANT THAT VENDOR AND NOT ISN'T ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
WELL, IF WE DO IT WELL, WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT.
WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION ON THIS.
UM, ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE DO HERE TODAY WOULD HAVE TO BE A REVERSE OF THAT, A RESEND, AS YOU SAID.
UH, AND WE, AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN, I THINK WE'VE MADE THE VALID POINTS AND I THINK THAT WE'VE CLEARLY ARTICULATED, UH, WHAT OUR SITUATION IS, HOW THIS COURT OPERATES.
UM, WE'VE, UM, TOUCHED, I MEAN, WE'VE REALLY TOUCHED ON ALL THE KEY ISSUES HERE.
AND SO UNLESS THERE'S A, A MOTION TO RESCIND, UH, WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THIS AND FOR US TO, UH, RESUBMIT THIS AND WE DID THAT LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UNLESS THERE'S A, I'M GONNA NUDGE THIS ALONG THAT, UNLESS THERE'S A, A MOTION TO RESCIND.
UH, WE'RE GONNA PROCEED ON, UH, WITH A MOTION THAT WAS MADE IN THE LAST, THE PASSED IN THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RESCIND THIS? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM THEN.
[5.A. Precinct Two 2016 Transportation Bond Discretionary Funds. (Kim Rivas / Commissioner Holt)]
GONNA GO TO ITEM FIVE A ON PRECINCT 2 20 16, TRANSPORTATION BOND DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.UH, COMMISSIONER HOL AND KIM REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE 2016 TRANSPORTATION BOND DISCRETIONARY FUNDS PROJECT LIST FOR PRECINCT TWO.
UM, HE HAS ALLOCATED FUNDS OUT OF HIS MILLION DOLLAR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, UM, TO SHALE ROAD FOR RIGHT OF WAY IN THE AMOUNT OF 125,000 AND SHALE ROAD DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR A TOTAL OF 290,000.
AND WHICH WOULD LEAVE WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED AN AMOUNT OF 178,007 60 FOR HIS UNDESIGNATED FUNDS.
DOES THIS REQUIRE A MOTION? IT DOES.
SO THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THE, I BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS ARE CONSERVATIVE, AND I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO REACH THAT AMOUNT, BUT I'D RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY.
COMMISSIONER HOLTER HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS, UH, MADE THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? I I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE MOTION? IS IT TO APPROVE THE, THE FUNDS? I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT IS TO APPROVE AND I'M, I'M LOOKING TO PROVIDE TO, TO DO A TRANSFER OUT OF THE PRECINCT, TWO DISCRETIONARY FUNDS OUT OF THE PROGRAM CONTINGENCY LINE INTO LINES
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FOR RIGHT AWAY FOR SHALE ROAD AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR SHALE ROAD.SO BASICALLY, WE'RE JUST TAGGING THAT IN THE SYSTEM.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, I JUST WANT IT CLEAR FOR THE MINUTES SURE.
AND THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS AS WELL FOR THE PURCHASE AT LATER, LATER IN, INTO THE AGENDA.
UH, THAT MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALT.
YOU MADE THE SECOND, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.
UM, THE, I'M GONNA GO TO ITEM SIX A.
UM, UH, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, UH, MR. HOTTA, WE RESPECT YOUR SCHEDULE AND YOU BEING HERE TODAY, AND THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER THIS ITEM.
UH, AND SO, UH, WE'LL GET YOU TAKEN CARE OF HERE.
[6.A. Presentation by Doug Shaw from the Upper Trinity Groundwater Conservation District on results of the Regional Water Supply and Facilities Planning Study, (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]
ITEM SIX DAY ON THE PRESENTATION BY DOUG SHAW IN THE OPPORTUNITY TRINITY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND RESULT OF THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AND FACILITIES PLANNING STUDY.MORNING, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, UH, DOUG SHAW WITH THE OPPORTUNITY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
AND I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST, UH, STOP ME.
BUT A WHILE BACK, THE DISTRICT FUNDED, YOU KNOW, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS COURT AND OUR, AND THE COURT IN WISE COUNTY, WE FUNDED A REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES PLANNING STUDY.
UH, WE WENT OUT FOR, UM, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, ENDED UP SELECTING FRIES AND NICKELS.
AND, AND, AND I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THE STUDY.
THE, THE, THE MAIN GOAL OF THE STUDY IS, IS WE ALL KNOW, RIGHT? PARKER COUNTY.
AND AGAIN, WE DID THE, WE LOOKED AT BOTH PARKER AND WISE COUNTIES, UM, BOTH GROWING RIGHT, QUITE A BIT.
UM, A LOT OF THAT GROWTH IS DEPENDING ON GROUNDWATER.
AND, AND AS WE KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS YOU MOVE WEST ACROSS THESE TWO COUNTIES, THAT GROUNDWATER GETS, UH, MORE AND MORE SCARCE.
AND EVEN IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, THAT GROUNDWATER IS, IS STARTING TO GET PRETTY STRESSED, RIGHT? JUST, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND JUST THE SHEER NUMBER OF WATER WELLS BEING DRILLED AND, AND EVEN LARGE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY'RE PRODUCING IS INCREASING YEAR AFTER YEAR.
SO, SO THE MAIN POINT OF THE STUDY WAS, WAS TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE GROWTH TRENDS, KIND OF EXTRAPOLATE THAT OUT.
PROJECT GROWTH, PROJECT WATER, UH, DEMANDS THE NEED FOR WATER.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY IDENTIFY SOME ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES, ALTERNATIVE SOURCES TO KIND OF DIRECT, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE WATER PROVIDERS IN THE AREAS.
LIKE, HERE'S, HERE'S WHERE YOU GUYS MIGHT WANNA LOOK.
GENERALLY, IT'S, IT'S A HIGH LEVEL VIEW, BUT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO DO JUST TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING.
SO, JUST A FEW, JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
UNSUSTAINABLE DEMAND ON GROUNDWATER.
UH, LITTLE INCENTIVE TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY DIFFICULTIES CONNECTING, UH, LIMITED, LIMITED ALTERNATIVE SOURCES.
UH, THE CULTURE SHIFT IS JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH SEVERAL OF YOU BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT INDOOR WATER USE, PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE BIG CHUNK OF WATER BEING USED IS, IS OUTSIDE OUTDOOR WATER USE.
UM, SO BY CULTURE SHIFT, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN.
JUST BEING MORE MINDFUL OF HOW WE USE WATER OUTSIDE TRANSITIONING TO, TO PLANTS THAT ARE NATIVE TO THE AREA THAT THAT USE LESS WATER.
UM, AND THEN OUR LIMITATIONS, UH, REAL BROADLY, THE METHODOLOGY, GATHER DATA, SET UP BOUNDARIES, DEVELOP PROJECTIONS.
WHAT, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY WENT IN AND LOOKED AT THE CENSUS BLOCKS AND CENSUS TRACKS.
AND IT IS WORTH NOTING, AND YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF THIS, THE, WE'VE SEEN THIS ACROSS OUR DIS DISTRICT.
IT'S ACTUALLY WORSE UP IN MONTE COUNTY.
BUT, UM, THE 2020 CENSUS WAS, IT APPEARS TO BE UNDERCOUNTED, RIGHT? IN A LOT OF AREAS.
BUT WE DID LOOK AT THE, THE, THE CENSUS BLOCK, CENSUS TRACKS, UM, HAD MEETINGS WITH EVERYBODY FROM ALL THE WATER PROVIDERS, FROM SOME OF THE CITIES, UH, MET WITH A FEW DEVELOPERS TO JUST KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF, OF WHAT WAS COMING, WHAT WAS PLANNED, WHERE THIS GROWTH WAS GOING TO OCCUR.
SO HERE, HERE'S THE PROJECTIONS FOR PARKER COUNTY.
AND THIS IS KIND OF A BUSY, BUSY LITTLE CHART, BUT WHAT THIS SHOWS IS STARTING WITH 2030, GOING OUT, THE 2080, UM, THE BARS GOING UP ARE, THAT IS THE INCREASING DEMAND FOR WATER IN, IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? UM, AGAIN, WITH POPULATION, I THINK THAT BLACK LINE THAT KIND OF STAYS UP THERE AT THE TOP, THAT GOES UP, THAT'S, UH, UH, POPULATION PROJECTIONS, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST SHOWING WHAT WE KNOW.
IT'S GROWING, RIGHT? IT'S GROWING A LOT, UM, GROUNDWATER AND THEN THE DIFFERENT SHADES IN THE BARS THROUGH DIFFERENT COLORS.
AND AGAIN, THIS STUDY, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE FRONT END, UM, WE HAD THIS FINAL PRESENTATION AT OUR BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK, AND I'M GONNA PUT THIS, THE FINAL STUDY ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, I'LL SEND LINKS OUT IF Y'ALL WANT IT, IF Y'ALL JUST GIMME A CALL.
UH, SO HERE'S, HERE'S AN INTERESTING MAP.
THIS IS, YOU BREAK UP THE CENSUS BLOCK CENSUS TRACKS, AND,
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AND YOU LOOK AT THIS IS, UH, CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION, RIGHT? SO MOST OF THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS INTO THAT ZERO TO ONE PERSON PER ACRE, UM, CATEGORY.THIS IS WHAT IT PROJECTED TO LOOK LIKE IN 2080, RIGHT? AND THIS IS ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, STILL FAIRLY RURAL IN THE WEST.
AND I THINK THE LIMITING THING RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE OUT THERE MAY OR MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE IS LIKE, IF, IF YOU GET ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF WATER OUT THERE, THAT MAY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? UM, THAT, THAT IS THE UNKNOWN, RIGHT? YOU GET OUT INTO SOME OF THOSE WATER PROVIDERS THAT ARE SHOWN OUT THERE, AND THEY'RE KIND OF LO LOCKED IN RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT ANYMORE WATER FOR THEM.
UH, SO THE WATER SUPPLY ASSESSMENT, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SHOWING, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF WELLS.
I THINK WE PULLED THIS DATA SEVERAL MONTHS AGO IN, IN PARKER COUNTY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT KIND OF SHADED BLUE, THAT'S THE EDGE OF THE TRINITY AQUIFER.
WHEN YOU GET OVER INTO THAT PINK, THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU DON'T SEE ANY WELLS OVER THERE.
CAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY GROUNDWATER OVER THERE.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU, YOU CAN GET LUCKY AND HIT SOME, BUT IT'S, IT'S INCONSISTENT, RIGHT? ONCE YOU GET OVER INTO THE BLUE SHADED AREA THAT'S INTO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE TRINITY GROUP OF AQUIFERS, SURFACE WATER, WE KNOW WHAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TR W D SYSTEM.
THEY'VE GOT THEIR EAST TEXASES RESERVOIRS, UM, THEIR RESERVOIRS, THEIR TERMINAL STORAGE RESERVOIRS IN THE WEST FORK, LAKE BRIDGEPORT, EAGLE MOUNTAIN, UM, LAKE WEATHERFORD BRA, PTO RESERVOIR.
SO, SO THERE IS, THIS IS THE, THE, THE SURFACE WATER THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED IN, IN THE COUNTY, PARKER COUNTY NEEDS.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE, THE, THE DEMAND INCREASE ON, ON WATER AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THOSE LITTLE, THAT LIGHT BLUE LINES, THE, THE TOP SECTION THAT'S IN, IN THE WORLD OF REGIONAL WATER PLANNING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU CALLED A, A NEED.
JUST TO SIMPLIFY IT, THAT'S A SHORTAGE, RIGHT? IF YOU JUST, THE BLUE IS, UH, NON GROUNDWATER SUPPLY.
SO THAT'S PRIMARILY SURFACE WATER CURRENT AND EXISTING, THAT, THAT LITTLE RED COLOR, THAT'S THE GROUNDWATER.
UM, AND SO EVERYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, THAT'S JUST PROJECTED DEMANDS.
THAT'S HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE GONNA NEED.
AND IT'S, RIGHT NOW THERE, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THAT ADDITIONAL WATER, RIGHT? SO SOMETHING'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, AT A STATE LEVEL, THAT'S WHY WE DO REGIONAL WATER PLANNING, UM, TO IDENTIFY THAT AND HELP STEER FOLKS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO SOME POTENTIALLY FEASIBLE STRATEGIES, OF COURSE, ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER, THAT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF AN INTERIM THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU SEE SOME OF THESE BIG DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN, AND I KNOW THEY'RE PLANNING ON DRILLING WELLS.
THERE'S A BIG ONE DOWN IN SOUTHEAST PARKER COUNTY.
UM, LONG TERM, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE AN INTER INTERIM THING, RIGHT? YES.
MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME, UH, DEVELOPMENTS STARTED OFF.
BUT LONG TERM, WE JUST KNOW, I I JUST POINT TO A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
UM, IT'S DOWN IN HOOD COUNTY, ACTON MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, RIGHT? FORMED YEARS AND YEARS AGO COMPLETELY ON GROUNDWATER.
AND NOW THEY'RE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY SHIFTING IN, PURCHASED THE CITY'S OLD SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, SHIFTING INTO WATER FROM THE LAKE BECAUSE WATER LEVELS HAVE FALLEN OVER A HUNDRED FEET IN SOME OF THEIR WELLS.
AND PRODUCTION'S GONE DOWN TO, I MEAN, THEY CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP.
UM, SO, SO I THINK THAT'S JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS.
AND WHEN OVER TIME, WHEN, WHEN YOU REALLY PUMPING LOTS OF GROUNDWATER FOR CONCENTRATED, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AND CONCENTRATED COMMUNITIES.
UM, PUR, PUR PURCHASE TREATED WATER, FORT WORTH, MINERAL WELLS, UH, PARKER COUNTY, SUD, WALNUT CREEK, SUD, THESE ARE JUST, UH, CITY OF WEATHER FOR, THESE ARE JUST CURRENT, UH, FOLKS THAT TREAT SURFACE WATER.
SO, SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND FOR THEM, TO EXPAND THEIR SYSTEMS AND TO SELL MORE TREATED, UH, SURFACE WATER.
SO ACTUALLY BRING IN, UH, RAW SURFACE WATER AND TREAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, UH, AND THOSE ARE JUST POINTING OUT A COUPLE SOURCES.
T R W D, TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT, UH, THEY, OF COURSE, THEY PROVIDE ALL THE WATER TO FORT WORTH.
THEY'RE NOT A RETAIL WATER PROVIDER.
THEY BASICALLY JUST SELL RAW WATER, RIGHT? UM, AND THEN OTHER, SO, SO I THINK ONE OF THE BIG KEY TAKEAWAYS, I'M GONNA GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, IS, IS THAT THE, MAYBE THE POTENTIAL OPTION OF TREATING RAW WATER, UH, COULD BE A KEY MOVING FORWARD.
UM, GENERAL I IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
SO JUST WHAT THEY DID, THEY BASICALLY SPLIT PARKER COUNTY IN THE TWO SUBRES, UH, THE PAR, THE BRASS BASIN AND THE TRINITY BASIN.
UM, MAIN QUESTIONS, WHERE WILL THE WATER SUPPLY COME FROM AND WHO WILL TREAT AND TRANSPORT THAT WATER, UH, POSSIBLE, POSSIBLE PATH FORWARD, UH, IS ULTIMATELY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WATER OF ANY WATER PROVIDER TO, TO IMPLEMENT THEIR PLANS, RIGHT? I MEAN, NOBODY ELSE REALLY HAS ANY AUTHORITY OVER THAT.
IT'S, IT'S WHOEVER'S GONNA END UP, UH, TREATING AND SELLING AND PROVIDING THAT WATER.
UH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, AND I'M GONNA GO OVER BRIEFLY SOME OF THESE.
UH, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS OF THIS STUDY WAS, IS REGIONALIZATION.
IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE STATE.
YOU LISTEN TO LEG, THE, THE COMMITTEE HEARINGS
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IN THE STATE, UM, SENATE, UH, COMMITTEE ON WATER AG RULE AFFAIRS, UH, HOUSE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE.UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT REGIONALIZATION JUST BECAUSE IT BECOMES MORE ECONOMICAL, RIGHT? TO, TO BUILD, UH, LARGER TREATMENT FACILITIES RATHER THAN A BUNCH OF SMALL ONES.
UH, ECONOMIES OF SCALE, RIGHT? UM, COUNTY ACTIONS, THERE'S A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS THAT COUNTY, UH, COULD DO.
AND THEN WATER USER ACTIONS, WHICH IS REALLY JUST AT THE BASE LEVEL.
UH, SO FOR THE TRINITY BASIN, FEW THINGS, UM, APPLICANTS FOR GROUNDWATER SHOULD REALLY EVALUATE THEIR OPTIONS IN LONG-TERM FEASIBILITY.
UH, OF COURSE, THAT'S JUST A COMMON RECOMMENDATION THROUGHOUT, UH, TRANSITION OF PLACES LIKE ANN NETTA AND OTHER THINGS TO, UH, TO SURFACE WATER WOULD REALLY HELP.
UM, NORTHEASTERN PARKER COUNTY, UH, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO BRING IN WATER THROUGH FROM T R A W D SYSTEM AT LAKE BRIDGEPORT.
UM, OF COURSE, THERE'S, AND YOU, SOME OF Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, T T R W D, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY OPERATE RESERVOIRS EAST OF THE METROPLEX, SOME RESERVOIRS IN THE METROPLEX.
THEY CAN MOVE WATER ALL THE WAY UP THEIR SYSTEM FROM EAST TEXAS, FROM THE EAST TEXAS SYSTEM ALL THE WAY UP TO EAGLE MOUNTAIN LAKE.
THEY CAN'T MOVE IT UP TO BRIDGEPORT.
THEY CAN ONLY RELEASE FROM BRIDGEPORT.
I, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE LONG-TERM PLANS TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO, TO GET WATER BACK UP THERE TO HELP KIND OF LOOP THEIR SYSTEM.
UM, THAT COULD BE VERY IMPORTANT, UH, NOT ONLY FOR WISE COUNTY, BUT NORTH, UH, NORTHWESTERN, UM, PARKER COUNTY AS WELL.
UH, AGAIN, TRANSITION, CONTINUE TO TRANSITION OFF GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES THROUGH CONNECTING TO WHOLESALE OR RETAIL.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
ONE THING THAT'S POINT, POINT NO IS LIKE SHORT TERM NEEDS MILLION GALLONS A DAY BY THIRD, 2030.
I MEAN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WATER.
BUT IF, AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS, LIKE, IF, IF WE DO NOTHING, RIGHT, IF NOTHING IS DONE, IF NO ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES ARE, OR NO PLANS ARE PUT IN PLACE, YOU COULD LOOK, BE LOOKING UP TO, UP TO A 50 MILLION GALLON A DAY SHORTAGE BY 2080.
NOW, OF COURSE, YOU WON'T JUST HAVE THAT.
CAUSE IF YOU DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN PLACE, THEN YOU WON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THAT WATER, RIGHT? SO, SO IT'S, IT'S IF ALL THE PEOPLE WERE COMING AND, AND WE DID NOTHING, THAT'S HOW MUCH POTENTIAL WATER, ADDITIONAL WATER COULD BE NEEDED BY 2080.
UH, AND THE BRASS BASIN, YOU KNOW, EXPLORE BRACKISH GROUNDWATER.
WE DID WORK WITH PARKER COUNTY SUD.
UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT DRILLING AND EXPLORATORY WELL DOWN BY THEIR TREATMENT FACILITY ON THE RIVER.
WE FOUND SANDS DOWN AT ABOUT 1100 FEET, ALMOST 1200 FEET, WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD, THEY WERE PRETTY TIGHT.
THEY DIDN'T, THE WATER WASN'T FLOWING THROUGH.
BUT AS WE BACKED OUT, AND GEORGE, YOU MAY FIND THIS INTERESTING, SCREENED, PACKED AND SCREENED DOWN FROM 10 10 80 TO 1160 BELOW SURFACE, RIGHT? TODAY, WATER, WATER LEVELS ARE UP AT, UH, ALMOST JUST, JUST RIGHT AT 400 FEET.
SO THERE'S THAT MUCH WATER, BUT THE WATER'S NOT, IT'S FLOWING VERY.
SO ONCE YOU PUMP IT AND THE BUZZ ROLLS DOWN, IT'S NOT FILLING BACK UP VERY QUICKLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S WATER DOWN THERE.
IT'S SALTY, BUT IT'S NOT SO SALTY THAT THEY COULDN'T TREAT.
UM, WE'RE WAITING ON A PUMP AND WE'RE GONNA DO SOME TEST PUMPING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECOVERY THERE IS, AND SEE IF THAT'S AN ACTUAL OPTION FOR THAT PART OF THE WORLD FOR THEM TO START BLENDING AND TREATING THAT WATER AT THEIR FACILITY.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S DEEP BRACKISH GROUNDWATER, LIKE MUCH BELOW THE TRINITY.
UH, INCREASED TREATMENT AT, AT BOTH MINERAL WELLS AND PARKER P UH, PARKER COUNTY SUD ENTER INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH TURKEY PEAK RESERVOIR.
I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME POLITICS GOING INTO ALL THAT.
UH, DEVELOP TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE FROM, UH, TO THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE REGION.
AND SO IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH ASR, THAT'S AQUIFER STORES AND RECOVERY.
SO A LOT OF FOLKS WITH SURFACE WATER CONTRACTS, THEY'RE ON WHAT'S CALLED A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT, WHERE THEY, THEY BASICALLY PAY FOR THEIR WHOLE PERMITTED VOLUME, WHETHER OR NOT THEY TAKE THE FULL HUNDRED PERCENT OR THEY TAKE 50% OF IT.
A LOT OF FOLKS FOR SAN ANTONIO, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SOME OTHER, UH, ENTITIES AROUND THE STATE, HAVE LOOKED INTO ASR OR ACTUALLY USING ASR WHERE THEY DRILL SOME HOLES.
THEY TAKE THEIR FULL ALLOTMENT OF SURFACE WATER EVERY YEAR, THEY TREAT IT, AND THEN THEY STORE IT IN THE GROUND, RIGHT? SO THE THING ABOUT STORING IT IN THE GROUND IS YOU MIGHT LOSE A LITTLE BIT TO THE WATER MOVING, BUT YOU DON'T LOSE NEARLY AS MUCH AS YOU DO STORING IT IN A SURFACE RESERVOIR WHERE YOU'RE LOSING EVAPORATION, RIGHT? SO IT'S STORED IN THE GROUND AND RIGHT NEXT TO THE WELL WHERE THEY'RE PUMPING THE WATER INTO THE GROUND, THEY'VE GOT A WELL WHERE THEY PULL IT BACK OUT WHEN THEY NEED IT.
SO WHAT THEY, THEY USE THIS AS PEAKING, RIGHT? SO THEY TAKE ALL THEIR WATER EVERY YEAR, STORE IT IN THE GROUND, AND ALLOWS THEM TO PRODUCE MORE WATER DURING PEAK DEMAND.
UM, SO IT ALLOWS THEM TO, TO, UH, SERVICE MORE FOLKS, UM, IN THOSE SUMMER MONTHS.
UH, REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS, YOU KNOW, JUST PERSONALLY AND HAVING BEEN AROUND THE STATE, UM, AND, AND WORKED WITH WATER ENTITIES ALL OVER STATE, I, I HONESTLY THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST OPTIONS FOR, FOR THIS AREA.
UM, AND IT'S KIND OF IN LINE WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT DR.
ROGERS, GLEN RO, UH, REPRESENTATIVE GLEN ROGERS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT CREATING A REGIONAL ENTITY.
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AND THE IDEA IS A REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER, RATHER THAN BUILDING SMALL TREATMENT PLANTS EVERY, UH, ALL ACROSS THE AREA, BUILDING LARGE REGIONAL TREATMENT PLANTS, IDENTIFYING A SOURCE OF RAW WATER, BE IT TARRANT REGIONAL OR WHATEVER, BRING IN THE RAW WATER, TREAT IT THERE, AND THEN SELL WATER WHOLESALE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TR INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY HA SELLING, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE CUSTOMERS, SELLING IT TO EXISTING, YOU KNOW, THE WSCS EXISTING, EVEN PRIVATE, PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, WATER SYSTEMS. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, COULD BE A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, UM, PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY.AND THAT'S SOMETHING I HOPE THAT IS LOOKED AT, LOOKED AT, AT, WITH, UM, GREATER DETAIL.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO A WHOLE LOT OF THAT, BUT, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH THE, WITH THE LARGE REGIONAL PROVIDER.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW THIS.
UM, NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT, BUT WHEN YOU GO DOWN AND YOU'RE TALKING TO THE STATE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET LOANS FOR WATER PROJECTS, WHICH ARE VERY BENEFICIAL, MUCH, MUCH LOWER INTEREST RATES SAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE TERMS OF THE LOAN.
YOU HAVE A LOT MORE WHEN YOU GO IN, WHEN, WHEN A LITTLE WSC OR A LITTLE SUD GOES AND SITS DOWN AND TALKS TO THEM, YEAH, THEY'LL SHOW UP AND TALK.
BUT WHEN A LARGE REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER COMES IN, THEY BRING IN THEIR BOARD MEMBERS, THEY BRING IN THEIR GENERAL COUNSEL, IT, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT MEETING ALTOGETHER.
AND, AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF THOSE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, IT JUST, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, NOBODY LIKES TO ADMIT IT, BUT IT IS, I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE EXPERIENCED IT FIRSTHAND.
THAT'S, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S, UM, SO WATER USE ACTIONS, THINGS THAT H HAPPEN, I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT FOLKS COULD DO.
UM, TELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS AT THE BASE LEVEL.
ONE OF THE THINGS I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE FUNDED A COUPLE STUDIES AND ARE WORKING ON OUR, UH, GRANTS FOR OUR RAINWATER COLLECTION PROJECTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE LONG TERM, IF, IF FOLKS WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT AT THEIR HOUSE, THEY COULD REALLY OFFSET OUTDOOR WATER USE IF THEY COULD COLLECT THEIR RAINWATER, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT.
BUT IT WOULD, IT TAKES A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING THAT TO MAKE ANY, ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
COUNTY ACTIONS, UH, A COUPLE THINGS THE COUNTY CAN DO, UH, GROUNDWATER STUDY REQUIREMENTS, I KNOW Y'ALL GOT THAT, THOSE IN Y'ALL'S, UH, DEVELOPMENT REGS ALREADY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STUDY POINTED OUT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL COULD FOR ENTER INTO AN, LIKE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DISTRICT WHERE WE OVER OVERSEE OR REVIEW THAT PROCESS, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COURT, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO.
SOME OTHER COUNTIES, UH, DISTRICTS ARE DOING THAT WITH SOME OF THEIR COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE.
UM, I KNOW THEY JUST STARTED DOING THAT IN LIKE JOHNSON AND HILL COUNTY.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING I'VE, I'VE VISITED WITH, UH, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT BRIEFLY.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN.
WE'RE TALKING WITH WEISS COUNTY ABOUT IT AS WELL.
I KNOW Y'ALL, Y'ALL SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS, UH, DEVELOPED STRATEGIC WATER PLANNING TASK FORCE.
IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT THAT'S BEING DONE.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR HAVE LEADERSHIP IN THE COUNTY TO, TO REALLY HELP, YOU KNOW, GATHER INFORMATION AND HELP STEER FOLKS IN, IN THE DIRECTION THAT IS, UH, UH, SUSTAINABLE WATER FUTURE FOR THE COUNTY.
AND THEN CONSERVATION AND EDUCATION.
A LOT OF WATER PROVIDERS ALREADY DO IT, AND I THINK THE COUNTY COULD, COULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, DO A LOT IN, IN HELPING FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO KNOW WHERE YOUR WATER COMES FROM AND BE, BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE USE THAT WATER.
SO, SO IN A NUTSHELL THAT'S THERE.
OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT MORE SPECIFICS IN THE STUDY.
UM, I DIDN'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF Y'ALL'S TIME TODAY.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE, WE FINISHED THE STUDY.
UM, I, I BELIEVE, UH, JOHN AND, AND, UH, JUDGE HAVE SEEN IT.
I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S SEEN A COPY OF THE STUDY.
I'M GONNA PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE PROBABLY LATER THIS WEEK.
UM, IT SHOULD BE, IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST PAGE OF OUR WEBSITE, IF IT'S NOT THERE, THERE'LL BE A LINK DIRECTLY TO IT IF YOU NEED IT SPECIFICALLY, DON'T HESITATE TO, TO CALL ME OR EMAIL ME OR, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOT GUYS.
I KNOW THAT WE, IN PART, WE MON WE HAVE MONITOR WELLS ALL THROUGHOUT PARKER COUNTY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY WRITTEN DATA THAT THE WATER TABLE IS DROPPING? SURE.
UM, AND IT'S IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
AND, AND IF YOU WANT, I SENT IT TO YOU, IF YOU EVER WANNA STOP BY, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
SO, AND, AND YOU, YOU KNOW HOW, HOW IT WORKS, COMMISSIONER, IT'S, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE, WHERE NOBODY'S LIVING, NOBODY'S PRODUCING THEM WATER LEVEL'S, BASICALLY JUST WHERE THEY ARE.
BUT AS YOU GET CLOSER TO AREAS WHERE THEY'RE JUST DRILLING A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF WELLS, THE WATER TABLES IS DROPPING AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, OH MY GOD, THE SKY'S FALLING, BUT IT IS DROPPING AT A, AT A, AT, AT A, AT A STEADY PACE, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THOSE PO THOSE CENTERS WHERE THERE'S DRILLING JUST TREMENDOUS NUMBERS OF WELLS.
THE WELLS THAT YOU'RE MONITORING, ARE THEY OLD WELLS OR ARE THEY SOME NEW ONES? IT, IT'S, IT'S A MIX COMMISSIONER, IT'S A MIX.
BECAUSE YOU AND I KNOW THAT AN OLD WELL, RIGHT.
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NOT JUST BE THE WATER TABLE, RIGHT.IT COULD BE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. THAT'S CORRECT.
MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE NEWLY DRILLED WELLS DRILLED WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UM, I WOULD SAY 80% OF THEM, UH, THAT ARE NEWLY DRILLED WELLS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING USED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMEBODY'S HOUSE THAT YEAH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL WELLS THAT WE'VE DRILLED JUST IN THE LAST FEW, FEW YEARS THAT ARE LITERALLY JUST HOLES ON THE GROUND.
THEY DON'T HAVE PUMPS, THEY DON'T PUMP.
THEY'RE JUST GOT, UH, DEVICES HANGING THERE THAT TAKE WATER LEVEL READINGS EVERY MINUTE.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER WELLS OR, OR THERE'S SEVERAL OVER THEM THAT ARE WELLS THAT WERE DRILLED, OH 5, 0 6 THAT WERE USED FOR, UM, OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY.
THEY, THEY PULLED THE PUMP AND THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE NOW AND WE'VE GOT EQUIPMENT HANGING IN THEM.
MOST OF THEM ARE NEWER WELLS, BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THE OLDER WELLS OUT THERE.
NOT, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THAT WHEN THE OLDER WELLS, WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
BECAUSE THERE COULD BE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH THE WELL ITSELF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DOUG? DOUG? I THINK THE THING THAT WE AVOID IS, IS WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE HOUSEHOLD USE OF WATER FROM A WELL, RIGHT.
IT'S THE IRRIGATION, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S THE OUTDOOR OPERATION.
AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE FLOATED AROUND OVER THIS WAY AND, AND, AND, UH, I'M TOLD THAT WE CAN'T, UH, WE CAN'T REGULATE IRRIGATION.
I THINK Y'ALL CAN INCENTIVIZE NOT REGULATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
AND SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
BUT, BUT EVERYBODY AVOIDS THAT.
WE'VE GOT OUR, WELL, AND WE, WE USE ALL THE WATER WE WANT.
WE EXPECT IT TO BE THERE FROM NOW ON.
AND, UM, UH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY, UH, IF THERE WAS ANY ABILITY WITH UPPER TRINITY TO, TO PUT ANY REGULATION OF THAT TYPE IN U UN UNFORTUNATELY, ON, ON PRIVATE DOMESTIC USE MM-HMM.
IF SOMEBODY'S LIKE, AS WASTE IS DEFINED BY THE WATER CODE AND BY OUR RULES, WHICH IS BASICALLY LETTING JUST WATER RUN DOWN THE BAR DITCH, UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.
SO WHAT I'D FLOATED OUT WAS IF, IF A NEW, UH, SUBDIVISION CAME IN AND THEY WANTED TO USE WELLS WITH THE, WITH THE, THE, THE TWO ACRES SPACING YES, SIR.
THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, AN ALTERNATE, UH, WAY OF IRRIGATING OR USE NATIVE PLANTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE IRRIGATION.
BASICALLY NO IRRIGATION RIGHT.
OUT OF A WELL, AND, AND SO I RUN INTO ROADBLOCK HERE WITH THE, WITH OUR ATTORNEY
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE NEED IS, RIGHT.
UM, UH, SO I THINK THAT I, I'LL JUST POINT THAT OUT AND THEN WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT OVER TIME.
SECOND THING IS, UM, UH, I, I WAS, I APPRECIATE THE WORK.
I MEAN, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH.
UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS IN OUR HYDROLOGY COMMITTEE, BUT, BUT I ASKED FOR THIS BEFORE MM-HMM.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.
I CAME TO YOUR MEETING AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, THIS, IS THERE ANYTHING, AND, AND SO WHAT'S CHANGED? I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS THE, IS THE BOARD DECIDED THAT IT'S DIFFERENT OR IS THE, THE CUZ I, CUZ I ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO HELP WITH, UH, THE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF WELLS ARE BEING DRILLED.
AND SO I'M, AND UPPER TRINITY WAS, AND I WAS TOLD, I WAS TOLD THAT WE ONLY DEAL WITH GROUNDWATER.
UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS THERE WHEN YOU MADE THAT REQUEST.
IF IT WAS SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE FIRST YEAR I WAS THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO, ANYTHING THAT'S CAN OFFSET THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AND HELP CONSERVE GROUNDWATER IS WITHIN OUR MISSION.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I DON'T DIRECTLY KNOW IF I WAS THERE, IT PROBABLY CAUSE I WASN'T COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO PUSH YEAH.
I, I FELT THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RAPPORT WITH MY BOARD NOW THAT I CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I HAD PUSHED AND, AND LOOK WITHOUT IDENTIFYING AND WORKING TOGETHER, JUST EVERYBODY RIGHT, RIGHT.
WHAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT DEVELOP MUNICIPALITIES, IS JUST THE CONTINUATION OF, OF DRILLING WELLS.
AND THEN BASICALLY EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, MILLSAP THAT AREA, WEST BROCK WEST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WESTERN PORTION OF, OF YOUR, YOUR PRECINCT AND THEN A GOOD BIT OF YOUR PRECINCT DEVELOPMENTS JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA STOP.
IT'S JUST LIKE THAT PLACE OUT ON, UM, OH, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT COUGAR ROAD, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
I WENT AND DRILLED 16 DRY HOLES.
OF COURSE THEY MIGHT'VE CALLED US, WE'D HAVE TOLD 'EM, THERE'S NO, SURE THERE'S NO WATER OUT THERE.
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YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.AND SO I THINK WE, WE SAW THAT, LOOK, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GET IN THIS TOGETHER.
THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO COME.
MY COMMENTS ARE POSITIVE AT THE END.
I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK THAT UPPER TRINITY HAS DONE TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION FOR US.
IT'S VALUABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UH, AND IN CASE ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW, THE, THE BILL THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR A REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY IS HOUSE BILL 5 4 0 6 AND IT HAS BEEN FILED.
AND, UH, SO WE, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OUR RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT OF THAT.
AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH OPPORTUNITIES WE MOVED FORWARD AND, AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR EVERYONE.
BUT, UH, HAD TO, HAD TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND I DID ASK FOR THAT PREVIOUSLY, BUT, BUT, UH, THE INFORMATION, LIKE I SAID, IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO IGNORE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE WATER IS, IS THE IRRIGATION.
AND, UH, SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME INCENTIVES TO NOT DO THAT.
TO, TO PROVIDE SOME ALTERNATIVE SOURCES.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DESCRIBED WAS, UH, AS I SAID EARLIER, IF YOU WANT A WELL THEN TWO ACRE LOT DON'T IRRIGATE.
IF YOU WANT A WELL THAT YOU'RE GONNA IRRIGATE FROM, THEN IT REQUIRES A MUCH LARGER LOT.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAPPY COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO OR WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO HELP.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE NEED TO, TO SIT DOWN WITH, WITH OUR ELECTED LEADERS DOWN IN AUSTIN AND, AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, UH, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD ARGUE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN THAT ARE, THAT ARE USING WELLS, YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF YOU KNEW EXACTLY THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING.
I MEAN, I'M GUESSING 60 TO 70% OF THEIR TOTAL WATER USE IS USED, UM, OUTDOORS.
IF, IF NOT, SOME OF 'EM EVEN HIGHER.
WHEN YOU SAY IRRIGATING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR GRASS.
NOT, NOT, NOT IRRIGATED AGRICUL NOT IRRIGATING, NOT AGRICULTURE.
THE FIRST THING THAT WE, THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN AND TURN IT ON.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND I MEAN, YOU GUYS KNOW, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE SITTING ON A WATER, WELL, AND I'M TRYING, SORRY, NOT TRYING TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME.
UH, IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE WITH A WATER WELL IN YOUR LAWN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT MONTHLY REMINDER OF HOW MUCH WATER YOU'RE USING.
SOME FOLKS, I MEAN, IN THEIR DEFENSE, THEY PROBABLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING.
THEY, THEY'VE GOT THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEM SET THAT'S GOING OFF WHERE THEY'RE SLEEPING AT NIGHT PROBABLY.
AND SOME OF IT'S STILL THE DAY SOME OF YOU DRIVE BY AND IT'S POURING DOWN RAIN AND THEIR SPRINKLERS ARE GOING, BUT THEY DON'T GET THAT MONTHLY REMINDER AND THEY'RE, THEY HAVE NO IDEA.
WHEN YOU REALLY SIT DOWN AND SHOW SOMEBODY, IF YOU'RE, YOUR ZONES ARE GOING OFF FOR THIS LONG, EVERY, EVERY DAY, EVERY OTHER DAY OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER, THIS IS HOW MUCH WATER YOU'RE USING.
AND THEY JUST, WHEN YOU SHOW 'EM THAT NUMBER, THEY, THEY JUST KINDA LIKE SCRATCH THEIR HEAD AND JUST THEIR EYES GET SO BIG CAUSE THEY JUST DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING IN PUTTING ON THEIR LAWNS.
DOUG, JUST, JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, HOW MANY ACTIVE WELLS SINCE 2009 HAVE Y'ALL PERMITTED MAN TOTAL AND PARKER COUNTY IS PROBABLY AROUND 12,000.
AND AND YOU SAID THAT PROBABLY BEFORE 2009.
THERE'S DOUBLE TO TRIPLE THERE.
CAUSE AROUND BEFORE 2009, YOU KNOW, REGISTRATION'S VOLUNTARY.
IF IT WAS DRILL BEFORE THEN, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S PROBABLY AT LEAST DOUBLE OF THAT NUMBER.
THERE WERE 1500 WELLS DRILL IN PARKER COUNTY LAST YEAR.
UM, I MEAN THERE'S ONLY 254 COUNTIES IN THE STATE.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY 50 COUNTIES WHERE THE NUMBER WAS OVER A HUNDRED.
UM, THERE'S ONLY, I THINK THERE WAS FIVE COUNTIES.
AND, AND JUST TO GIVE A GOOD VISUAL, JUST ON HOUSEHOLD USE, IT'S ABOUT 140 GALLONS A DAY PER PERSON PER YOU DO THE MATH.
36,000 WELLS TIMES 140 IS OVER 5 MILLION.
AND THAT'S ABOUT 15 ACRE FEET RIGHT.
ALL WEATHERFORD LAKE IS ABOUT 18 ACRE FEET.
SO, AND THAT'S ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE'RE ALMOST USING THE QUANTITY OF WEATHERFORD LAKE DAILY.
IS THAT REQUEST, JAMES, HOW MANY ACRE FEET IS WEATHERFORD LAKE? UH, ABOUT 18,000.
DOUG, I HAVE, UH, ONE REQUEST OF YOU AND, AND I THINK THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN ON OUR SIDE AS WELL, UHHUH.
BUT IT SEEMS INTERESTING TO ME THAT THERE'S A BIG CHALLENGE WITH PROPERTY TAXES RIGHT NOW.
I'M WONDERING IF, AS YOU TALK TO YOUR, UH, COHORTS THAT WORK DOWN IN AUSTIN MM-HMM.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL TO FOLKS.
Y YOU KNOW, SO, SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A TAX-BASED DISTRICT.
THERE ARE TAX-BASED DISTRICTS IN THE STATE.
IF WE WERE A TAX-BASED DISTRICT, I THINK THAT WOULD
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BE EASY CUZ WE COULD, WE MAYBE FOR THAT WE COULD DROP OUR RATE.UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH EXPLORING.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT YOUR TAXES SPECIF SPECIFICALLY, BUT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LEGISLATURE A WHOLE CREATING SOME TYPE OF MAYBE EVEN A REDUCTION ON THE VALUATION OF THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, I, I THINK, THINK THAT IS A, A DISCUSSION WORTH HAVING AND SOMETHING WORTH EXPLORING BECAUSE IT MIGHT INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO BE MORE MINDFUL AND TO COULD BE TWO BIRDS OF ONE STONE.
COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL THAT WE ARE, YOU AND I HAD BEEN DISCUSSING WITH WISE COUNTY? YEAH.
AND SO, SO I HAD MENTIONED THIS WITH, WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, LEADERSHIP IN WISE COUNTY AS WELL AND SOME OTHER DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE DO THIS.
UM, WAS BASICALLY AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DISTRICT WHERE WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF THINGS.
WHEREAS WHERE WE JUST, THEY CONTINUE TO DO GROUNDWATER STUDIES, Y'ALL JUST TURN 'EM TO US AND WE REVIEW 'EM.
WE COULD EVEN GO AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL BASICALLY JUST DIRECT THEM TO US AS SOON AS SOMEBODY PURCHASE Y'ALL ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT.
Y'ALL COULD JUST DIRECT THEM TO US.
WE COULD PROVIDE THEM, HERE'S, HERE'S THE GROUNDWATER STUDY, HERE'S WHAT, UH, HERE'S WHAT THE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT.
UM, I'VE GOT STAFF AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S ALL ABOUT STAFF EXPERTISE.
I'VE GOT, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I'LL HAVE FIVE PGS PROFESSIONAL GEOSCIENTISTS ON STAFF.
AND SO I'VE, WE'VE GOT THE EXPERTISE IN HOUSE TO HELP PEOPLE TO OVERSEE THIS, TO REVIEW THIS STUFF.
UM, AND WHAT, WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS DO WITH THEIR COUNTIES IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE STUDY'S DONE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ENGINEER'S GONNA COME IN.
HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE SAY, WE'LL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH, REVIEW IT, WE'LL DO SOME OF OUR OWN ANALYSIS, AND THEN WE PUT A TOGETHER REPORT AND IT'S A NON-BINDING RECOMMENDATION, BUT THEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT AND Y'ALL CAN FILE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACCESSIBLE, UH, WITH, WITH THE PLAT.
UM, AGAIN, HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS IF Y'ALL GOT SOMETHING Y'ALL INTERESTED IN.
UM, CAUSE I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER, RIGHT.
NOT TRYING TO, TO STOP ANYBODY FROM DOING SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE MOST, THE BEST INFORMATION POSSIBLE.
APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH US AND, AND AS ALWAYS YEAH.
I ASKED A COUPLE QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE YOU.
TODAY THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, IT'S, IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM.
AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT IMPORTANCE.
SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD AND, AND WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED AS FAR AS IDEAS ON WORKING TOGETHER MM-HMM.
UM, REALISTICALLY THE, THE, THE HOW THEY DO THIS STUDY IS GONNA, AND ON THE FRONT END IS GONNA BE THE LONGEST I COULD TURN AROUND.
LIKE ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THE STUDY, THEIR, THEIR ENGINEER'S DONE THE WORK, SUBMITTED THAT TO US.
I COULD HAVE THAT TURNED AROUND IN A WEEK OKAY.
IT'S A MATTER OF, OF HANDING IT TO MY STAFF GEOLOGIST SAYING, GO READ THIS.
GO DO SOME ANALYSIS, DO SOME MODELING, UH, PUT TOGETHER.
CAUSE WE DEVELOPED BASICALLY A, A TEMPLATE REPORT, RIGHT? YES.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING EVERY TIME AND THEN GO THROUGH AND UPDATE THAT REPORT.
SO IT WOULDN'T TAKE US LONG ON, ON, ON THE DEVELOPER IN, YOU KNOW, AND BACK TO SOMETHING ELSE, I, YOU KNOW, CUZ AS PARKER COUNTY, AS A COUNTY, Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS, Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY IN WHAT'S CALLED A PRIORITY GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT AREA, WHICH IS WHY OUR DISTRICT WAS CREATED.
UM, IT'S A DESIGNATION PUT ON BY THE STATE.
IT'S AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND ON GROUNDWATER, UM, THROUGH WATER LEVEL DATA COLLECTED OVER TIME, UH, FALLING IN CERTAIN AREAS.
THEY MADE THIS DESIGNATION BECAUSE WE CALL THIS A PMA PGM A WHEN YOU'RE IN A PMA COUNTY, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY FOR THESE GROUNDWATER STUDIES ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST THE, THE TCEQ FORM.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY, UM, ADOPT HIGHER STANDARDS FOR THE STUDIES.
UM, JUST WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT.
AND, UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS HOW THE STUDY WAS DONE.
IF THERE'S SOME EXISTING WELLS THAT ARE GOOD AND I, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPLETED CORRECTLY AND, AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE AND THEY'RE INDICATIVE OF HOW THE WELLS WOULD BE DRILLED ON THAT PROPERTY, THEY COULD USE SOME OF THOSE FOR PUMP TEST.
UM, CUZ IDEALLY WHAT YOU'D WANT TO DO IS, IS YOU'D WANT TO DRILL AT LEAST TWO WELLS.
AND IF IT WAS A DEVELOPER THAT WAS GONNA USE THE WELLS ON THE LOT, YOU DRILL 'EM IN A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD BE KEPT ON THOSE LOTS.
MAYBE WHEN YOU SELL THOSE LOTS, YOU INCREASE THAT THE COST OF THOSE LOT A COUPLE THOUSAND CUZ THE WELL'S ALREADY DRILLED.
UM, YOU PUMP ON ONE OF THOSE WELLS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU MEASURE DRAW DOWN IN RECOVERY IN THAT, WELL, YOU MEASURE DRAW DOWN IN RECOVERY IN THE OTHER, WELL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 150, 300 FEET AWAY MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU CAN USE THAT INFORMATION TO ESTIMATE, ALL
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RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A HUNDRED WELLS HERE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, 220 ACRES AND YOU ESTIMATE IF THEY'RE PUMPING LIKE THIS VOLUME, THEN OVER AT THE, AT THE END OF 30 YEARS ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION, WE CAN EXPECT WATER LEVELS TO HAVE FALLEN FIVE FEET, 10 FEET, YOU KNOW, 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.WE CAN ESTIMATE WATER LEVELS TO FALLEN THIS MUCH.
UM, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE PUT IN THE REPORT.
AGAIN, THE LONG, THE BIGGEST HANGUP WOULD IS GONNA BE ON THE DEVELOPERS END, GETTING THEIR FOLKS OUT THERE TO DO THE WORK.
THE TURNAROUND TIME FOR US WOULD BE PRETTY QUICK.
I'M, I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF, OF, UH, THE AREA OF PARKER COUNTY THAT RELIES ON WELL WATER COMPARED TO THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF PARKER COUNTY THAT IS EITHER ON SURFACE WATER OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF WATER? SO MY POINT IN THAT IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF PARKER COUNTY RELIES ON WELLS EAST OR WEST AREA.
NOW, NOW THE CONCENTRATED, YOU KNOW, WELL, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT POPULATION IS DIFFERENT RIGHT.
BECAUSE WEATHER AND, AND WELL, BUT, BUT WHEN, WHEN I LOOKED AT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE AREAS SPACE E EVEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF PARKER COUNTY, RIGHT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT ARE COVERED BY EITHER A MUNICIPALITY OR SOME KIND OF A MUD OR SUD RIGHT.
THE MAJORITY RELY ON, WELL, EXACTLY.
SPATIALLY, IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO TH MAKE NUMBERS UP, BUT IT'S 75%, 75% WAS THE, THE THOUGHT THAT I HAD.
SO JUST SPATIALLY OF THE COUNTY.
JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
IN OTHER WORDS, ANOTHER WAY TO THINK OF THAT IS 70 PER 5% OF THE COUNTY WHERE SURFACE WATER IS NOT AVAILABLE.
THAT, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO, TO PUT, PUT THAT.
UM, AND IT'S REGARDING LIKE THE MUD DISTRICT MM-HMM.
EARLIER, UM, HOW INVOLVED ARE YOU ON SAY THAT MUD BEING APPROVED DOWN THERE? THE APPROVAL OF THE MUD? YEAH.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, I FOLLOW IT IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF IT'S DONE THROUGH LEGISLATION, I'LL FOLLOW IT.
UM, SO THOSE ARE DONE THROUGH AUSTIN PRIMARILY.
THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO CREATE A MUD.
YOU KNOW, THROUGH LEGISLATION'S.
ONE WAY, UM, YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH T CQ, THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO, TO CREATE A MUD.
OTHER THAN JUST FOLLOWING THEIR CREATION AND BECAUSE KNOWING, AND HERE, HERE'S ANOTHER THING, RIGHT.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY, BUT, BUT WE DID MEET WITH, IN DOING THIS STUDY, WE MET WITH BASICALLY EVERY PLAYER IN THE WATER GAME IN THIS AREA.
SO WE SAT DOWN WITH TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DIRECTLY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A HUGE INTEREST IN, IN PROVIDING RAW SURFACE WATER TO, YOU KNOW, TO THIS, IN THEIR MIND, A SMALL MUD HERE AND A SMALL MUD THERE.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE MAYBE WITH ONE LARGE ENTITY RIGHT.
IF, IF THEY HAVE THE WATER AVAILABLE, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO JUST DROP IT OFF TO WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER LIKE NORMAL MOM AND POP YEAH.
UM, SO LIKE THE MUDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA DRILL WELLS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA PUMP A LOT OF, LOT OF WATER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I, WE'VE GOT A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE FOLKS WITH, UH, KELLY RANCH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S IN AN AREA WHERE YOU'RE, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GROUNDWATER PRODUCTION.
AND OVER TIME YOU'RE GONNA SEE, AND IT'S NOT THROUGH THE PROLIFERATION OF PRIVATE WELLS, IT'S GONNA BE THROUGH JUST A FEW LARGE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY WELLS.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME, SOME AR IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT SEEING ISSUES WITH WATER LEVELS IN THE NEXT, IF THINGS PROGRESS THE WAY THEY APPEAR TO BE PROGRESSING IN THE NEXT 10 OR 20 YEARS, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME CHANGE TO TO WHAT TO THAT.
I, I GET MY OFFICE, I PERSONALLY RECEIVED A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND QUESTIONS YEAH.
HOW THAT WAS CREATED, HOW IT WAS APPROVED, UH, FROM FOLKS IN MY PRECINCT SPECIFICALLY.
SO, UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET BROUGHT UP TO SPEED.
IF YOU HAD INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT OR ANYTHING.
NO, NOT, NOT ON THE FRONT END.
LIKE I SAID, I FOLLOW IT AND, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN.
IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL EVER NEED ANYTHING, Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME, CALL ME IF YOU DON'T, SOME OF THESE GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME IN ANYTHING.
I THINK THERE, I THINK THERE'S AN JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
COMMENT IS, I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS THE EDUCATION OF, UH, THE NUMBERS AND PEOPLE, UH, THAT USE THIS, THIS WATER, WHETHER IT'S ON AUTOMATIC OR NOT, OR THEY, THEY'RE JUST NOT AWARE OF IT CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING BILLED FOR IT.
OR IS, UH, I THINK THERE'S AN EDUCATION PROCESS AND ALREADY SENT A MESSAGE TO RICH THAT, UH, TO GET THAT EDUCATION MATERIAL MATERIAL OUT THERE ON OUR WEBSITE AND START MAKING THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE APPARENT TO THEM.
TO MAKE THEM MORE RESPONSIBLE IN THE USAGE OF THE WATER THAT MAY BE JUST
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GOING DOWN THE DRAIN.AND, UH, SO, UH, WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INITIATIVE ON THAT, ON THE EDUCATION PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OR ANY IDEA OH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE GETTING WITH YOU ON THE LANGUAGE OF THAT.
I THINK THE MORE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE.
PAT, THE ROADBLOCKS AREN'T WITH MY OFFICE.
AREN'T WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AREN'T WITH THE COURT.
IT'S WITH THE LAWS AND TEXAS WATER LAWS GO BACK.
WELL, I WAS GONNA PUT YOU AS THE MAIN CONTACT.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO BECOME AWARE OF THAT, AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SIT DOWN WITH THE LEADERS IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY RECEPTIVE.
AND I'M KIDDING, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE MAIN CONTACT.
UH, JUST A, AGAIN, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
QUICK HOUSEKEEPING THINGS BEFORE WE DO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, MS. MILLER HERE AND OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR JUST TO JUST TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS.
THIS WON'T TAKE LONG, WILL IT? YES.
UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO
[8.B. Approve contracts for May 6, 2023 General and Special Elections, authorize County Attorney to sign contracts. (Crickett Miller / Judge Deen)]
THAT AND GO TO AUTOMATE I EIGHT B, UM, APPROVED CONTRACT FOR MAY 6TH, 2023.GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTIONS AUTHORIZED COUNTY ATTORNEY TO SIGN CONTRACTS.
THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT EACH ENTITY HAS TO FILL OUT AND SIGN, SEND BACK TO US.
AND THEN WE HAVE JOHN SIGN THEM.
SO IT'S A BINDING CONTRACT AND WE HAVE 18 ENTITIES THAT ARE ON THIS BALLOT.
WE HAVE 116,125 REGISTERED VOTERS FOR THIS ELECTION.
AND EVERYBODY IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THIS ELECTION CUZ WEATHERFORD COLLEGE DOES HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE BALLOT.
I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONTRACTS JUST PRESENTED.
SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN.
UH, COMMISSIONER WALTERS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
MY, UH, COMMISSIONER HA HAS MADE THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[8.F. Accept the official bond and oath for Kim Rivas, Purchasing Agent. (Judge Deen)]
ITEM EIGHT F ON ACCEPT OFFICIAL BOND AND OATH FOR KIM REKS.UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT BOND, UH, FROM MERCHANTS IN THE AMOUNT OF 5,000.
IT IS IN ORDER, AND, UH, IT IS IN RECEIPT BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[10. EXECUTIVE SESSION:]
WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NINE AND 10 AND JUST MOVE DOWN.UH, AGAIN, JUST IN CONSIDERATION OF WHO'S IN ATTENDANCE HERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 5 5172 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.
RESERVING THE RIGHT TO MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ITEM A, DISCUSS REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION WHERE PROPERTY LOCATED ON NORTHEAST CORNER, LOT ONE OF SHUTTLE ROAD AND FMS NINE 20.
AND TAKE ANY ACTION IN COURT, DEEM IF NECESSARY.
ITEM B, DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON REAL PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 1 0 1 NORTH MAIN STREET, WEATHERFORD, TEXAS 76,086.
ITEM C, DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON REAL PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT ONE 18 WEST COLUMBIA STREET IN WEATHERFORD, TEXAS.
AND ITEM D, DISCUSSION, TAKE ACTION ON REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 0 1 SANTA FE DRIVE, CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.
UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE WILL, UH, RECESS AT, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? GO IN.
UH, WE'LL RECESS AND, UH, WE'LL JUST MAKE IT A STRAIGHT UP 10 30 THAT WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE WILL RECESS AT 10 18.
WE'RE GONNA RETURN OR, OR RESUME THE MEETING AT 1111 AND GO TO ITEM 10 ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ON ITEMS DISCUSSED UNDER ITEM A, DISCUSSED REAL ESTATE, TRANSACTIONAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON NORTHEAST CORNER LOT ONE OF SHE ROAD AND FM NINE 20.
AND TAKE ANY ACTION IN THE COURT DEEM IF NECESSARY AND ASK FOR A MOTION, MAKING THE MOTION FOR US TO PURCHASE LOT ONE ON THE CORNER OF SHE ROAD AND FM NINE 20.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
MY COMPUTER IS NOT WORKING, JUDGE, SAY AYE.
WE'LL GO TO ITEM B ON DISCUSS.
LOCATED AT 1 0 1 NORTH MAIN STREET, WEATHERFORD, TEXAS.
UH, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THE COURT PRESENT OFFER THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL IF THE, IF THE COUNTY SO CHOOSES TO SELL THAT PROPERTY, UH, TO
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THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.AND THAT IS, DO I NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT MOTION? SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FOR ME.
WE HAVE MOTION THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM D C I KNEW I MISSED THAT ONE.
ITEM C AND DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON REAL PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT ONE 18 WEST COLUMBIA STREET IN WEATHERFORD, TEXAS.
WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT ITEM.
LOCATED AT 8 0 1 SANTA FE DRIVE, CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD, UH, WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LOOK AT AN AGREEMENT IN DISCUSSION.
PURCHASE FOR AN AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE A ACQUIRE, NOT WITH ANY TRADE TO BE INVOLVED, BUT TO PURCHASE, ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AT 8 0 1 SANTA FE DRIVE.
CURRENTLY LOCATED, OWNED, AND LOCATED IN THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.
BID ON TO REPHRASE THAT, TO BID ON THE PROPERTY AND ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AGREEMENT, UH, TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY AND, AND WITH NO TRADE INVOLVED.
UH, MOTION IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF FAVOR? UH, PASS FIVE VOTE.
[7.A. Parker County Precinct Three declares waste dirt salvage from Rio Brazos Subdivision. (Commissioner Walden)]
SEVEN A ON NOTIFICATION ON PARKER COUNTY PRECINCT.THREE DECLARES, WASTE DIRT SALVAGE FROM RIO BRAZOS SUBDIVISION.
COMMISSIONER WAL, WE, WE'VE GOT SOME SALVAGE MATERIAL THERE.
UH, WE JUST WANNA DECLARE IT, UH, AS SALVAGE SO THAT WE CAN DISPOSE OF IT.
[7.B. Precinct Three will be on private property at 112 and 129 Crossland Drive and 196 Gilbert Drive to deposit waste material. (Commissioner Walden)]
ITEM B.ITEM B, UM, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISPOSE OF THAT SALVAGE MATERIAL, UH, ON THESE LOCATIONS IN THAT SUBDIVISION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, HAVE THE COST OF HAULING IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO OUR PRECINCT YARD.
IT'S JUST NOTIFICATION AS WELL.
[7.C. Precinct Three will be on private property to clear for visibility and drainage at 1800 block of Old Millsap Road owner Steve McWilliams. (Commissioner Walden)]
C PRECINCT THREE WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TO CLEAR FOR VISIBILITY AND DRAINAGE.1800 BLOCK OF OLD MILLSAP ROAD.
UH, OWNER STEVE MCWILLIAMS, CAN YOU COMMENT? WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE, UH, UH, THE DRAINAGE RIGHT THERE.
AND SO WE'LL BE ON A VERY SHORT STRETCH OF THAT, THAT, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY THERE TO CLEAR OUT THE DRAINAGE.
AND THOSE ARE NOTIFICATIONS, RIGHT? WE'LL GO TO ITEM
[8.C. Consider/Take Action to reappoint Dr. Stephen Welch as the Parker County Public Health Authority for a two-year term ending in April 2025. (Sean Hughes / Judge Deen)]
EIGHT C.CONSIDER TAKE ACTION TO REAPPOINT DR.
STEVEN WELCH AS THE PARKER COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR A TWO YEAR TERM ENDING IN APRIL, 2025.
UH, THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST TO REAPPOINT DR.
STEVEN WELSH IS THE PARKER COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
WELSH HAS BEEN WITH US, UM, FOR, I BELIEVE THIS IS HIS THIRD REAPPOINTMENT.
UH, IT, THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR HIS SERVICES TO THE COUNTY.
WELSH DID YEOMAN'S WORK, UM, IN GUIDING US THROUGH, UH, COVID AND SINCE, UH, THE, I GUESS KIND OF THE RECOVERY POST COVID, UM, DR.
WELSH AND I STILL DO COMMUNICATE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, WE BOTH STILL WATCH, UH, THE, THE COVID NUMBERS ON A DAILY BASIS ON THE REPORTS THAT WE GET FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES.
HE'D LIKE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE IS, UH, EXTREMELY BUSY.
UH, HE DOES, UH, WISH TO BE REAPPOINTED AND IT SAID THAT HE WOULD SERVE IF THE COURT WOULD REAPPOINT HIM.
AND, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT DR.
WELSH BE APPOINTED FOR ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSION WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALER IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
I'LL NOTE THAT, UM, IT, WE WAS DR.
WELCH WHO HELPED US THROUGH THE, UH, THE WORST CHALLENGE.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THIS COUNTY HAS HAD OTHER THAN COVID.
UH, AND WAS ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF THAT.
AND, AND, AND REALLY IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD BALANCE OF PUSH, PUSH BACK ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS CITY TO KEEP BUSINESSES OPEN OR NOT.
UH, HIS KNOWLEDGE, UH, AND INTERACTION AND COORDINATION.
UM, HE, HE DID A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB, YEOMAN'S JOB OF WORKING WITH US AND GETTING US THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND I WOULD DEFINITELY, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION TO, UM,
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WHOEVER IN THIS DISCUSSION PHASE.UH, DID, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, YOU MADE THE MOTION ON THAT.
I'M SORRY I MOVED IT UP, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT.
COMMISSIONER HILL'S ALREADY MADE THE SECOND, SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HE DID IT, HE DID ONE OTHER THING AT THE MED PODS AND ALL THE SCHOOLS, YOU'RE IN THAT PROCESS TOO.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND THANK HIM TOO, SEAN, WHEN YOU TALK TO HIM.
I'LL, I'LL SPEAK WITH HIM LATER TODAY.
[8.D. Deny payment to AT&T for claim# SWBT-06-202301 -12-0153 at 4393 Greenwood Road in the amount of $732.64 in Precinct Three. (Commissioner Walden)]
GO TO ITEM D ON, UH, DENY PAYMENT TO AT T FOR CLAIM NUMBER S W B T DASH OH 6 2 0 2 3 0 1 DASH 12,000 1 53 AND 43 93 GREENWOOD ROAD IN THE AMOUNT OF $732 AND 64 CENTS IN PRECINCT THREE.UH, OUR CREW, UH, UH, CUT A TELEPHONE LINE THAT WAS NOT BURIED, UH, DEEP ENOUGH.
IN FACT, UH, WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE SIX INCH RANGE.
AND SO THEY SENT US A BILL FOR REPAIRING THAT AND I'M GONNA MOVE THAT.
MOTION SHALL BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[8.E. Add a reserve Constable for Constable Three. (Commissioner Walden)]
ME ON ADAM RESERVE, CONSTABLE FOR CONSTABLE THREE.SO WE GOT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CONSTABLE THREE'S OFFICE HERE TODAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION YOU'VE GOT FOR US, BRAD, BUT STEP FORWARD.
WE, UH, UH, I, I WAS ASKED BY THE CONSTABLE TO, UH, UH, ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA TODAY SO THAT THEY COULD ADD A RESERVE.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BUMP YOU UP.
I'M CHIEF DEPUTY GRAVES WITH THE PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE DEPARTMENT.
CONS, PARK PRADER APOLOGIZES, HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS MORNING DUE TO A PRIOR APPOINTMENT.
UH, WE'RE REQUESTING PERMISSION TO REPLACE A NON-PAID RESERVE DEPUTY POSITION WITH THE DEPARTMENT WE HAD RESERVE THAT JUST RESIGNED AT THE END OF FEBRUARY AND WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THAT.
IT'D BE NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE COUNTY OTHER THAN THE BOND.
UH, WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE'D LIKE TO START THE BACKGROUND AND BACKGROUND'S FAVORABLE.
WE'LL APPOINT THE DEPUTY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[8.G. Order 23-05 for the disposition by cremation of a pauper and authorize payment of $300 to UTMTHSC Center for Anatomical Sciences for disposition of an indigent person. (Judge Deen)]
TO ITEM G ON ORDER 23 DASH OH FIVE FOR THE DISPOSITION OF CREMATION OF A PAUPER AND AUTHORIZED PAYMENT OF $300 TO THE U N T H C CENTER FOR, I'M GONNA MESS THIS UP.JOHN? IS THAT, THAT'S THE 300.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT.
IT USED BE, IT USED TO BE JUDGE, BUT UH, WE WE'RE NOW DON THE BODIES WE'RE DONATING.
FOR PURPOSE OF MEDICAL SCIENCE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY, ANY QUESTION? GOOD DEAL FOR CLARIFICATION.
[8.H. Order 23-06 for the disposition by cremation of a pauper and authorize payment of $300 to UNTHSC Center for Anatomical Sciences for disposition of an indigent person. (Judge Deen)]
ORDER 23 DASH OH SIX WITH THE DIS CREMATION OF A POPPER AND AUTHORIZED PAYMENT OF 300 TO DID OUR NO SAME THING FOR DISPOSITION OF AN ENGINE PERSON.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
DO HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HA.
HAS MADE THE SECOND EITHER DISCUSSION.
[9. ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES]
TO ITEM NINE, ACCEPT IN THE MINUTES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF PROPERTY SEIZED BY PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.OKAY, BEFORE WE GO TO PLATZ, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO TO AND, UH, RECESS THE MEETING AT 1122 WITH THE FIVE OH VOTE.
[11.A. PRECINCT 1]
WILL GO BACK TO AT 11 23 2 ITEM 11 ON PLATS.ITEM A PRECINCT ONE, THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 1122 THAT WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT.
JAMIE, YOU READY? UH, CAN WE TAKE NO ACTION ON ONE AND NUMBER TWO PLEASE.
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ONE, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION.ON ITEM TWO, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION.
TEXAS TO NUMBER THREE, APPROVE THE PERMIT FOR AT MOST ENERGY TO BORE UNDER SCROGGINS ROAD IN SPRINGWOOD RANCH.
COVERAGE LOOP LOCATED PRECINCT ONE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO, UH, ALLOW ATMOS TO BORE UNDER SCROGGINS ROAD IN SPRINGTOWN RANCH ROAD.
AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COURT TO, UH, APPROVE THESE CONTINGENT UPON THAT THEY PROVIDE THE CORRECT INSURANCE INFORMATION.
EVERYTHING GOOD? UH, YES, AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDE THAT RIGHT, THEY, THEY'RE UH, THEY HAVE A LETTER SAYING THEY'RE SELF-INSURED, UH, BUT UP TO A MILLION BUT THEN BEYOND A MILLION THEY HAVE A POLICY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE POLICY BEYOND THE MILLION TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INSURED BEYOND THAT AS WELL.
I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM 11.
MOTION FOR ACCEPTANCE MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL OF FAVOR SAY AYE.
OH, WE'RE VOTING THAT JONES SCREENS WORK EVERYBODY.
OKAY, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO A VERBAL ONE.
WE'LL GO TO ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE REVISION PROCESS FOR WINDMILL CREEK SUBDIVISION CONSIST OF 6.145 ACRES DEVELOPED BY WINDMILL CREEK PARTNERS LLC LOCATED OFF OF BILL STATION ROAD WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
THIS WAS A COMBINATION OF LOTS 28, 29 AND 30 UH, PUDDING LOT 28 R AT 3.080 ACRES AND 30 ARE AT 3.065 ACRES.
UH, WE DID RUN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE.
UH, WE DID NOT SEND OUT LETTERS, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS A COMBINATION.
OKAY, WE'LL LEVEL UP PUBLIC HEARING AT 1125 ON ITEM A FOUR.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? WE'LL CLOSE UP PUBLIC HEARING AT 1125 AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSELOR.
EVERYTHING GOOD FOR THE REVISION PROCESS AND PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
LISTEN TO DATE, TIME, LOCATION AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
MOVE TO APPROVE 11 A FOUR AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM FIVE, REVIEW AND EXECUTE THE INSTRUMENT IN ORDER TO CANCEL A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS JAMIE ACRES CONSTITUENT OF 11.69 ACRES LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS CANCELLATION WAS A BUYER CAME IN AND BOUGHT THE UH, PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION AND THEY WANT TO REVERT IT BACK TO RAW LAND.
I DID UH, RUN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE AND OF COURSE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS CUZ THIS WAS, UH, SUBDIVISION WE JUST PREVIOUSLY DID.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1127.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM A FIVE HERE? NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1127 AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSEL.
ARE EVERYTHING GOOD TO AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO VOTE ON THE CANCELLATION? MOVE TO APPROVE 1185 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND MOTION BE BAY COMMISSION CONLEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM SIX ON NOTIFICATION OF THE SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS WATERSTONE ESTATES CONSISTED OF 57.067 ACRES LOCATED INSIDE THE E T J OF THE CITY OF RENO DEVELOPED BY ROYAL VALLEY DEVELOPMENTS LLC LOCATED OFF OF LADYBIRD LANE AND WELL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
SO THIS PLAT IS INSIDE THE CITY OF RENO'S, UH, E T J BUT WE ARE GONNA BE UH, THEY ARE GONNA BE PUTTING IN COUNTY MAINTAINING ROADWAYS TO BE KNOWN AS BLUE HILLS CIRCLE, LADY BIRD AND LADY BIRD LANE.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA BE DEDICATING UH, TWO STRIPS OF RIGHT OF WAY A POINT 714 AND A 0.063.
AND WELL WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE.
SO THIS IS JUST NOTIFICATION TODAY, BUT BEFORE THEY GO TO FINAL WE WILL HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS IN PLACE.
[11.B. PRECINCT 2]
PRECINCT TWO, ITEM ONE AND APPROVE THE FINAL PLATFORM SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS ADVANCED ACREAGE.CONSISTENT OF 10 ACRES DEVELOPED BY HARIO AND FATIMA.
VAL VAL VERDE LOCATED OFF OF ADVANCED ROAD WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.
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TAKING NO ACTION.WISH YOU HAVE TOLD ME BEFORE I READ IT.
ADAM TWO, APPROVE THE PERMIT FOR UTMOST ENERGY TO BORE.
WE ARE TAKING ACTION ON THIS ONE.
TOTO ROAD, STELLAR LANE, SARAH LANE, PRATHER ROAD, OLD AGNES ROAD AND LAVENDER ROAD LOCATED IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER PERMIT TO BORE UNDER THE COUNTY, UH, ROAD.
AND THE SAME UM, APPLIES FOR THIS ONE.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT INSURANCE POLICY BEFORE WE SEND THESE BACK, DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHAT SIZE LINE IT IS? MM-HMM
UH, IF THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT'S COMING THROUGH OVER IN SPRINGTOWN, IT'S 36 INCH.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING IN MY PRECINCT IS THE REASON I ASK, BUT I USUALLY THEY YEAH, CROSS THERE.
YOU HAVE WELL WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION.
YOU HAVE ONE COMING UP? YES YOU DO.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALL WITH THIS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALTER, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM COUNSELOR? NO.
GO TO ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE PERMIT PER AB.
MOST ENERGY TO BORE UNDER MCCLENDON, FRANK PLUMLEY LANE, MONTEREY ROAD, HARWELL LAKE ROAD FM L 1885 OLD AIAN ROAD, COLD SPRINGS ROAD, CABANAS LANE AND OLD GARNER ROAD LOCATED IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND THIS IS THE UH, SAME COMPANY JUDGE.
JUST ANOTHER PERMIT FOR ANOTHER SECTION OF ROADS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.
I'M SORRY, I SECOND MOTION SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD ITEM BOARD BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS COMANCHE RANCH CONSISTING OF 5.051 ACRES DEVELOPED BY JACOB JOHNSON LOCATED OFF OF NICKI TRAIL LANE WITH WATER AND PRECINCT TWO COUNCIL SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UH, THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVISION IS TO CHANGE LOT SEVEN SI UH, LOT SIZE FROM 5 0 6 ACRES TO UH 5.051.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S LARGE TREES AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT WERE IN THE FENCE LINE SO THEY ADJUSTED THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BACK OF AND THEN LOT EIGHT DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOSE ANY UH, PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
SORRY JAMIE, I GOT OVER MY SKIS A LITTLE BIT.
MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SAY GOOD BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF FAVOR SAY AYE.
[11.C. PRECINCT 3]
TO ITEM C PRECINCT THREE.ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE FINAL PLA FOR SUBDIVISION BEING KNOWN AS GL STATE CONSISTING OF 4.2 5 52 ACRES DEVELOPED BY EUGENE SHIMMER AND POLY GL LOCATED OFF OF BROOK HOLLOW LANE WITH WA WATER AND PRECINCT THREE.
THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, IT'S FOUR ACRES OUT OF A ALMOST 16 ACRE TRACK OF LAND.
UH, THEY DO HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF OF BROOK HOLLOW AND WILL BE PUTTING IN A WELL.
IS EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR THE FINAL PLAS ON THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THE DEVELOPER HAS MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
ITEM 11 C ONE IS PRESENTED FOR MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR YOU? UP? ALL IN FAVOR.
ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLA TO BE KNOWN AS AGUILAR'S WAY CONSIST OF 8.17 ACRES DEVELOPED BY JONAH FRIDAY.
JOSE AGUILAR AND JOSE GILBERTO LOCATED OFF OF FM TO 1 71 WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT THREE.
AND THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A TWO BLOCK SUBDIVISION.
LOT ONE IS GONNA OR LOT ONE AND TWO ARE BOTH GONNA HAVE 4.085 ACRES.
BOTH OF THEIR FRONTAGE IS GONNA BE OFF OF HIGHWAY 1 71 AND THEY WILL BE USING WELL WATER AS THEIR WATER SOURCE IS EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR THEIR PRELIMINARY AND THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED ALL DOCUMENTATION FOR PRELIMINARY PURPOSES.
ITEM 11
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THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM THREE APPROVED OF PRELIMINARY PLA TO BE KNOWN AS COLLINS EDITION CONSISTENT OF 20.368 ACRES DEVELOPED BY RALPH IN AMBER COLLINS AND RAY AND DOROTHY HARRIS LOCATED OFF OF FM 51 WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT THREE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A FOUR LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE LOTS RANGE IN SIZE FROM TWO ACRES TO 14 ACRES.
UH, THEIR ROAD FRONTAGE IS GONNA BE OFF OF GRANDBERRY HIGHWAY AND CAMP ROAD AND WELL WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE IS EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR THE PRELIMINARY AND THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR BEGINNING THE PRELIMINARY PROCESS.
ITEM 11 CUN
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM FOUR, RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR BLUE BONNET RIDGE PHASE ONE EXCEPT MARGARET'S MEADOW ADELE'S LANE, A PORTION OF BLUE BONNET RIDGE, AN OLD WAGON ROAD S COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAYS PRECINCT THREE AND THE PRECINCT HAS RELEASED UH, THIS LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OF THESE ROADS.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE OF ITEM 11, CUN FOUR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
APPROVE THE PERMIT FOR ATMOS ENERGY TO BORE UNDER DOSS ROAD LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE.
IS I'M GUESSING IT'S THE SAME AS THE OTHERS? YES SIR.
MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 11 C FIVE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[11.D. PRECINCT 4]
TO ITEM D ONE NOTIFICATION OF A REVISION OF MONA EDITION CONSISTING OF 7.609 ACRES DEVELOPED BY JC MAHAN AND MONA PROPERTIES WITH WA WATER AND PRECINCT FOUR.THIS IS A NOTIFICATION, THIS IS JUST A REVISION OF LOTS.
LOT ONE IS 5.109 ACRES AND LOT TWO IS 2.5 ACRES.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVISION WAS TO INCREASE THE ACREAGE IN LOT TWO AND DECREASE THE ACREAGE OF LOT ONE.
BUT THIS IS JUST NOTIFICATION FROM FORT WORTH? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE MOVE ON? MOVE TO ITEM 12 AND ADJOURN.
I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE TO ADJOURN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND SOMETHING I NEED TO LOOK AT ALL.
SECOND BACK, COMMISSIONER HILL.
THE RECORD RECORD SHOW WILL ADJOURN AT 1136.