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MORNING, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT FFY 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP AGENDA, UH, OF RECORD SHOW.
IT IS NINE 30, UH, TUESDAY, JULY 11TH.
AND TO MOVE TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS. AND UNDER ITEM ONE, APPROVAL,
[I.A. Discussion/Presentation on Department 402 County Judge budget requests. (Judge Deen) ]
DISCUSS DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 0 2 COUNTY JUDGE BUDGET REQUEST UNDER ONE A.GOOD, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I WILL BE PRESENTING FOR COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE 4 0 2.
A LOT OF OUR LINES ARE GOING TO BE KEPT THE SAME.
UM, THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, INCREASES ON CONTRACTS AND SERVICES DUE TO THE COST OF THE SERVICE.
UM, IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT IT DID INCREASE.
UM, WE HAD SOME DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION REQUESTS AS WELL THAT, UM, INCREASE THEIR COSTS.
THEY'RE VERY MINIMAL, BUT WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THOSE.
UM, OUR TRAINING WILL STAY THE SAME.
AND, UM, WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL ITEM, WHICH IS A COUNTY VEHICLE, UH, THAT WE ARE REQUESTING THIS YEAR.
UH, PREVIOUSLY UNDER COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE, THERE WAS A, UM, VEHICLE LINE.
UM, THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL AT THE TIME.
CAN I ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK? YES.
AND JUST KIND OF HELP YOU WITH THAT? YES.
UH, WE HAD A FORMER EMPLOYEE THAT, UM, THERE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED A CAR, AND I THINK HE'D HAD THE CAR FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS.
UM, THE, THE CONDITION OF THE CAR WAS SO BAD THAT, UH, I HAD IT REMOVED FROM, FROM SERVICE AND FROM CIRCULATION.
SO IT WAS REMOVED AND INADVERTENTLY WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE, THE BUDGET UNTIL IT WAS NOT REPLACED.
BUT I HAD THAT CAR REMOVED BECAUSE IT WAS VIRTUALLY, WELL, IT WAS JUST THE CONDITION OF IT WAS NOT REPRESENTING THE COUNTY LIKE IT SHOULD.
AND SO THEN THE EMPLOYEE, UM, WE SEVERED TIES WITH THAT EMPLOYEE.
AND SO THE CAR KIND OF LOST ITS WAY IN ALL THIS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, GET BACK WHAT WE HAD IN THAT LINE ITEM FOR THE CAR, FOR THE COUNTER RELATIONS OFFICER THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR WELL OVER 10 TO 15 YEARS, UH, FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL IN THAT POSITION THAT HAD IT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST ADD THAT BACK IN WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, AND YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE AS TO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
AND SO I, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT VEHICLE BACK TO BE USED FOR THE EXTERNAL PART OF MY DUTIES.
UM, WHICH A LOT OF 'EM ARE WORKING ON COMMUNITY EVENTS, GOING TO OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY, SOMETIMES TRAINING OUTSIDE.
AND SO CURRENTLY I HAVE BEEN USING MY CAR AND HAVE PUT EXTREMELY EXTRA MILES ON IT.
UM, SO I WAS HOPING THAT THIS WOULD, UM, NOT ALL, NOT JUST BE THE COUNTY RELATIONS UNDER COUNTY JUDGES VEHICLE, BUT IT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR ANY OTHER TRAINING, UM, TRAVEL INSTANCES.
UM, AND ALSO I DO WANNA ADD TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, WE DID NOT, I DID NOT ADD IT TO OUR WORKBOOK, NOR DID I ADD IT TO THE S T W.
I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, BRING IT UP TODAY, WHICH IS THE SPECIAL EVENTS LINE.
UM, LAST YEAR, THE SPECIAL EVENTS CONSISTED OF JUST DONATIONS FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.
AND THIS YEAR WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COURT IF, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN INCREASE IN SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, SEPARATE FROM ALL THOSE DONATIONS.
UM, THESE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR THE FOLLOWING COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE FOR THE MENTAL WELLNESS, UH, MATTERS IN PARKER COUNTY, WHICH IS THE FAMILY WELLNESS, UM, MENTAL FAIR THAT WE DID THIS YEAR.
UM, THIS COMING UP HERE, WE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OFFER OUR COMMUNITY A SPEAKER TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON PREVENTION AND AWARENESS.
UM, ALSO, UM, LOOKED INTO SOME CRISIS TRAINING COURSE TO EQUIP OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS ON HOW TO HANDLE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND WHAT PROCEEDS WITH CONNECTING THEM TO OUR LOCAL ENTITIES.
UM, AS WELL AS LIKE A TRAIN THE TRAINER PROGRAM.
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OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS ON HOW TO DEESCALATE THE SITUATION.UM, THIS IS, UH, BASICALLY EQUIPPING OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND SO ALL THAT, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSES ON THESE EVENTS ARE DONATED.
I GO OUT AND, UM, I HAVE THE COMMUNITY SPONSOR LOCATIONS, UM, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO PAY FOR TO FIND SOMEBODY TO SPONSOR A SPEAKER OR SOMEBODY TO SPONSOR A PROGRAM LIKE TRAIN THE TRAINER.
UM, AND SO I, DUE TO THAT, I'M REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING INCREASE FOR, UM, SPECIAL EVENTS AS WELL AS PARKER COUNTY GOES GREEN WITH TIES UP WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, ALL I NEED FOR, FOR THIS IS THE FLAG BANNERS TO HANG AROUND THE, UM, THE COURTHOUSE SQUARE, UM, TO PROMOTE THAT AWARENESS.
UM, AS WELL AS OFFERING LIKE A MENTAL HEALTH ACTION DAY WHERE WE CAN SHARE ACTIVITIES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS YOGA, EVERYBODY BRING YOUR MATS, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO JUST THE PROMOTING AND ADVERTISING OF THAT.
UM, AS WELL AS PARKER COUNTY GOES PINK FOR CANCER AWARENESS.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THE FLAG BANNERS.
THOSE FLAG BANNERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE YARD SIGNS THAT I HAVE BEEN, UH, ABLE TO, UH, GET SPONSORED.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY HARD TO GET SPONSORED CUZ THEY'RE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM, BUT THEY DO LAST A LOT LONGER AND SO WE CAN USE THOSE YEARLY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE REPLACING THEM EVERY YEAR.
UM, WE ALSO, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE INCLUDED UNDER THIS IS THE PARKER COUNTY CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH OUR IT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN HELPING ME ON THAT PRESENTING.
SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TROUBLE BECAUSE WE'LL GO TO CHURCH AND THEY DON'T HAVE MICROPHONES OR THEY DON'T HAVE CERTAIN ITEMS FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE, UM, PRE FOR US TO PRESENT TO OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING SOME FUNDS FOR EITHER A MI MAR OR LESS MICROPHONE OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WILL HELP US OUT FOR, UM, THOSE PRESENTATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, WE DO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNSELOR SUMMIT AND THE NURSES SUMMIT.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE ARE REALLY BASICALLY, UM, HAVE SPONSORS FOR THEM.
IT'S JUST MINIMAL, UM, EXPENSES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THAT.
AND SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, THE VEHICLE LINE REALLY TIES UP TO THIS BECAUSE I AM OUT AND ABOUT GOING FROM SCHOOLS TO CITIES TO, UM, NONPROFITS TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS DOING ALL THESE OTHER, UM, COLLABORATING WITH OUR OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY TO PROMOTE THESE THINGS.
AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE SPECIALS.
UM, SPECIAL EVENT LINE TO 10,000 THIS YEAR SEPARATED FROM DONATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED.
AND THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR ITEMS FOR COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
HAVE YOU ALL THIS VEHICLE, IS THAT THE 20 3007 40? CORRECT.
WHAT KIND OF VEHICLE WOULD THAT BE? IT IS A 2024 CHEVROLET TRAX.
IT'S A SMALL U V BASICALLY WE ASKED FOR AN SUV SO WE COULD HAVE EITHER THE BANNERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE TRAVELED FROM PLACE TO PLACE, EITHER SPEAKERS OR ANY EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED FOR THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS.
AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IS USING YOUR OWN PERSONAL CAR AND THEN TAKE EXPENSIVE MILEAGE, YOU KNOW, AS PER POLICY TO THAT.
SO THERE IS A COST INCURRED TO THE COUNTY THAT WOULD, WE WOULD NO LONGER INCUR THAT COST.
IT WOULD THEN GO TO THE AUTOMOBILE.
MORE MILEAGE OF THAT BROWNING YOU.
WELL, ONE ITEM THAT'S NOT IN HERE IS IF THE VEHICLE IS APPROVED, THEN YOU WOULD ALSO NEED A FUEL LINE FOR THAT.
IT WOULD BE AN OPERATING COST.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
IF IT'S APPROVED THAT I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD BUY A NEW VEHICLE FOR 23,000.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT IN THERE IF IT'S APPROVED.
SO WE COULD, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE AMOUNT OF MILEAGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN BEING REIMBURSED FOR? REIMBURSED? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT I PURCHASED MY VEHICLE LAST YEAR.
WITHIN A YEAR I PUT LIKE 28,000 MILES AND THAT WAS JUST LOCALLY.
SO IT'S, SO IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO, TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT, I GUESS, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'VE BEEN REIMBURSED? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MILES AND WHERE WOULD THE VEHICLE STAY WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE.
WHERE WOULD THE VEHICLE STAY WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE? IT WOULD BE PARKED IN SQUARE, JUST THE PARKING AND THE SQUARE.
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LIKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS.NOT SOMEONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN THE, THE, I ASSUME THAT WAS THE ANSWER AND UH, WITH SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THERE NOW, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.
MAYBE ABLE WHERE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S VEHICLES ARE, IF IT WAS APPROVED.
IT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY THAN BEFORE BECAUSE I, WHEN, WHEN I CAME ON IT WAS BEING DRIVEN HOME AND BACK AND THAT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDANCE WITH A POLICY THAT WE HAD AND, UH, IT JUST NEEDED TO TIGHTEN UP SOME THINGS ON IT.
SO I HAD IT REMOVED AND, UM, IT WAS NEVER IN THE INTENT TO, TO TAKE IT AWAY.
IT JUST KIND OF FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT, OR THREE YEARS THAT, UH, WE JUST NEVER REPLACED IT.
SO WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU NOW TO, I MAKE SURE IT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, AND USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE, WE, WE COVER THAT ACCORDING TO WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, WISHES IS WITH THAT, BUT SURE.
IT'S A NECESSITY AND YEAH, BRING BACK THE, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE NEED TO, TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT AND SEE WHERE WE GO WITH IT.
SO YEAH, THE, THE MILEAGE, THE MILEAGE YOU'VE DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSES AND SO FORTH.
HOW MANY MILES DO YOU DRIVE A YEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER THAT SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE NEXT TIME.
SO IN 2022 IT WAS A, WELL ACTUALLY I'D HAVE TO PULL THAT OUT CUZ IT COULD BE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE IN YOUR PERSONAL REIMBURSEMENT CORRECT.
SO I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU NUMBERS, BUT THEY MAY BE INACCURATE.
SO I'LL TRAINING, PULL THAT TRAINING NEXT TIME WE VISIT IT.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
HAVE WE DONE ANY TYPE OF STUDY TO DETERMINE WHEN IT MAKES SENSE FISCALLY FOR US TO PAY TO HAVE A NEW VEHICLE VERSUS REIMBURSING SOMEONE AT SOME POINT? YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S DRIVING, AND I'LL USE REALLY EXTREME EXAMPLES.
IF SOMEBODY DRIVES 10 MILES A YEAR, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO BUY A VEHICLE FOR 'EM.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO REIMBURSE IT.
BUT IF THEY'RE DRIVING 28,000 MILES, THAT'S PROBABLY WELL WITHIN THE RANGE OF IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO PURCHASE A COUNTY VEHICLE INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO REIMBURSE FOR MILEAGE AND USE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT CUTOFF IS? OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD VARY A LITTLE BIT WITH HOW EXPENSIVE EACH VEHICLE IS, BUT DO WE HAVE A ROUGH FEEL FOR THAT? HAVE WE RUN THE NUMBERS IS WHAT I'M ASKING? I HAVE NOT BEEN AWARE OF THE, WHERE THAT TRIGGER IS.
IT'S, IT SETS THAT THRESHOLD OF WHAT HAVING A CAR AND NOT HAVING A CAR, UM, BUT THE MILES BEING DRIVEN.
I I CAN'T SAY THIS THAT, UM, BY FAR, UM, THIS, THIS KIND OF RELATIONS OFFICER HAS EXCEEDED THE, UH, WITH THE PROGRAMS WE'RE CURRENTLY IN USE IS, IS WELL BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST DONE, WHICH HAS BEEN THEN PUT A MORE OF A DEMAND ON, ON THOSE MILES BEFORE.
AND I, AND SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I I HOPE YOU DON'T, UH, MISUNDERSTAND MY QUESTION.
28,000 MILES ON ANY YEAR ON A VEHICLE, I THINK IS WELL PAST WHERE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO BUY A VEHICLE FOR HER TO USE.
SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING AT ALL.
I'M SIMPLY ASKING DO WE HAVE A POLICY, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS POSITION, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN HOLD.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY WHERE WHEN SOMEONE'S DRIVEN 5,000 MILES A YEAR ON COUNTY BUSINESS IN THEIR OWN VEHICLE, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF GUIDANCE THERE OR PROTOCOL? NO, BUT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ESTABLISH ONE.
UM, FOR THE VERY POINT THAT YOU'RE ASKING THAT AND WHAT THAT TRIGGER IS, COULD YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT WITH THAT? BECAUSE IF, IF SHE'S NOT DRIVING MORE THAN SAY SIX OR 7,000 MILES A YEAR, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A LOT.
BUT YOU KNOW, DRIVING HER OWN CAR, YOU KNOW, WEAR AND TEAR ON HER OWN PERSONAL CAR, THERE DOES NEED TO BE A TRIGGER AS TO WHEN WE DO MAKE THAT DECISION AS A COURT, UM, WHETHER THAT MEETS THE THRESHOLD OF, DOES A JUSTIFIED REIMBURSEMENT OF MILEAGE OR FOR THE PAYMENT OF A VEHICLE, CUZ OVERALL IT WOULD SAVE US MONEY IS WHAT I WOULD BELIEVE.
NO, I I WAS JUST GONNA KNOW EVEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE INCLUDED IN THE REIMBURSEMENTS, IF I'M JUST PULLING A STRAIGHT REPORT IN 22, IT WAS $1,005 AND SO FAR IN 23 IT'S $1,100 REIMBURSEMENT.
AND SO I, UM, JUST I WANNA DO TO ADD PARKER COUNTY HAS, IT'S, IT'S HUGE WITHIN DRIVING, UH, RANGE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, YOU GO FROM ALITO TO BROCK AT TIMES AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU GET THERE IN NO TIME.
I THINK MORE THAN IT, UM, IT'S THE DRIVING DISTANCE FOR, FOR HOW BIG PARKER COUNTY IS AND HOW NO, BUT YOU'RE EXCEEDING THAT ALSO WITH YOUR PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH COOK CHILDREN'S AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT GO BEYOND PARKER COUNTY THAT YOU'RE DRIVING IN DETERRENT AND OTHER AREAS.
UM, THAT, THAT IS IN, UH, IMPACTING THAT, I'M NOT TALKING TRAINING, I'M TALKING SPECIFIC FUNCTION TO YOUR
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JOB THAT YOU'RE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED PARTNERSHIPS WITH ENTITIES THAT DO BUSINESS HERE THAT WE PARTNERED WITH IN DOING PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE HERE.AND THAT'S, UH, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING WELL PAST PARKER COUNTY AND THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUES BECOME WHEN YOU START PUTTING MILES ON THAT CAR AND ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL CAR.
I DO, UH, COLLABORATE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL.
I TRY TO MEET WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING AROUND, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING AND I, I GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND COMPARE IT TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE CITIES ARE TELLING US THEY'RE HAVING, THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BROUGHT UP TO US, THE NONPROFITS.
AND SO I, I USE THOSE COLLABORATION MEETINGS FOR THAT AND WHEN I HEAR ABOUT A PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE RESEARCH, WE MEET, WE MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA WORK FOR PARKER COUNTY AND SO I DO COLLABORATE NOT JUST WITH PARKER COUNTY ENTITIES, I DO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE RTC SHE, SHE WORKS, WORKS WITHIN THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AS WELL.
AND SO THERE'S MORE FUNCTION IN THAT.
UM, GOING BACK TO, AND I, I DON'T WANNA, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THAT, I WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT YOUR, YOUR PROGRAMS WERE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO ADD FUNDING TO THAT.
UM, YOU'D LEFT OFF THE, THE CHRISTMAS CORRECT ONE THAT, UM, I HAVE PERSONALLY TAKEN THAT AND, AND EACH YEAR WE'VE BEEN OUT ON AVERAGE ABOUT $10,000 IN DONATIONS AND THAT EXPECTS TO CONTINUE.
UM, SO THAT THAT WILL BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE WORK WITH BUILDING THE GROUNDS AND THEY DO SOME OF THE WORK MORE LABOR, UH, THAN, BUT THEY DO HAVE A BUDGET.
UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A LOT ON THAT, BUT, UH, THE FUNDING, THE EXTERNAL FUNDING WILL CONTINUE.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT GONNA CONTINUE CUZ IT WILL, THAT WILL BE A SELF-FUNDED PROGRAM.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE, UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO ADD A FEW DOLLARS TO THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T, WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST.
IN FACT, I THINK WE HAVE A, STILL HAVE A SURPLUS OF ABOUT $2,500 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ROUGHLY FROM LAST YEAR IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THAT LINE ITEM ON THE, UH, CHRISTMAS.
SO, UH, THE FUNDING OF THIS, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE MAKE THIS NOTE THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING HERE IS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THE FUNDING, THE EXTERNAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE STILL GETTING, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL AND WE'LL CONTINUE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO OURSELVES THAT, THAT WE, WE DO NEED THAT WE WERE KIND OF SHORT ON.
SEPARATE FROM, UH, DONATIONS PROVIDED.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT FOR ME.
[I.B. Discussion/Presentation on Department 450 District Clerk budget requests. (Sharena Gilliland / Judge Deen) ]
ITEM B ON THE DISCUSSION PRESENTATION DEPARTMENT FOUR 50 DISTRICT CLERK BUDGET REQUEST.DO I, DO YOU NEED THE SCREEN? UM, YES.
IS IT THIS, CAN YOU DO ONE MORE TIME? IT SURE IS.
SHE'S GOT HER GAME FACE ON YOU GOT YOUR, YOU GOT YOUR GAME FACE ON THERE.
WELL GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, FOR THIS YEAR, OUR BUDGET REQUEST, IF YOU, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK THROUGH OUR REQUEST, UH, THERE'S NOTHING, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY OR EXTRAORDINARY IN OUR USUAL OPERATING REQUESTS THAT WE'VE MADE.
OUR, OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND I'VE GOT SOME STATISTICS TO WALK THROUGH IF Y'ALL WANNA TALK ABOUT THOSE OF, UM, WHY WE NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T WANNA COME TO YOU AND JUST SAY WE'RE REALLY BUSY AND NOT GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO, UM, I'VE GOT SOME, UH, POWERPOINT HERE TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH IF YOU WANNA START WITH THAT, UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU WANNA START WITH.
SO DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE HANDLE ALL OF THIS, UM, CIVIL FAMILY FELONY AND JUVENILE CASES FILED IN THE DISTRICT COURTS.
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UM, WE ARE ALSO THE JURY MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS, WE HANDLE ALL OF THE SUMMONS FOR ALL OF THE COURTS.UH, WE TAKE ALL OF THE INQUIRIES, QUESTIONS, EXCUSES, DISQUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN WE GO TO EACH COURT TO PHYSICALLY CHECK IN THEIR JURIES, UM, FOR THAT MORNING.
UH, WE ALSO DO PASSPORTS, WHICH Y'ALL ARE WELL, UM, AWARE OF, AND THAT'S GOING REALLY WELL.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 15 DEPUTY CLERKS, SO THERE'S MYSELF PLUS 15 EMPLOYEES.
A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF REVENUES, UM, FOR 2022.
UH, WE DEPOSITED ABOUT $700,000 TO FUND 10 FOR 2023.
YEAR TO DATE WE'RE ALMOST TO THE HALF MILLION MARK, JUST TO FUND 10.
AND WE ALSO COLLECT REVENUES FOR 12 OTHER FUNDS.
UM, SO WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF STATS ON OUR COURT COURT CASES.
UM, AND I USED THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION'S DISTRICT COURT WORKLOAD ANALYSIS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY USE TO DECIDE WHEN IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR COUNTIES TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COURTS.
THEIR TIMEFRAME, I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE IS APRIL, UM, OR APRIL TO MARCH.
UH, UH, THAT'S JUST A ODD, I THINK THAT'S THEIR FISCAL YEAR THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE KIND OF STATISTICS.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I USUALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT CALENDAR OR OUR COUNTY FISCAL YEAR, BUT WHAT IT TELLS US IS THAT WE'RE GETTING BUSIER.
WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO ALMOST 4,000 NEW CASES FILED EVERY YEAR, UM, FROM 2019 TO 2023, THAT'S A 4% INCREASE.
AND WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP DURING COVID, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, ARE CLIMBING AND, UM, COMING BACK TO SOME PRE COVID NUMBERS, SO WE'RE GETTING BUSIER.
UM, SO TO KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME OF THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN 2015, OUR DISTRICT COURTS WERE MANDATED TO START E-FILING, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS PARTIES ARE SUPPOSED TO USE AN E-FILE PORTAL TO ELECTRONICALLY SUBMIT ALL OF THEIR DOCUMENTS TO THE COURTS.
UM, IN THE JPS THAT'S STILL OPTIONAL, BUT THEY DO UTILIZE IT.
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THEMSELVES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE IT, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR WORKLOAD IS COMING IN THROUGH E-FILE.
AND JUST TO KINDA SHOW YOU HOW BUSY WE ARE, SO, UM, FOR TOTAL IN PARKER COUNTY IN 2022, WE HAD 65,000 FILINGS COME THROUGH E-FILE THROUGH ALL OF THE COURTS.
THE DISTRICT COURTS REPRESENT ABOUT 47% OF THAT TRAFFIC.
UM, SO WE'RE DEALING WITH ABOUT 30,000 FILES COMING THROUGH, UH, DOCUMENTS BEING FILED EVERY YEAR.
UH, JUST LOOKING AT 2023 TO DATE, JANUARY TO JUNE, WE'RE SEEING THOSE, UM, PERCENTAGES ABOUT THE SAME.
WE'RE AT ABOUT 40%, 46% OF THAT VOLUME COMING THROUGH YOU FILE.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, SO JURY, WE ARE THE JURY MANAGER AND JURY CLERK FOR THE COUNTY IN 2019.
WE GOT NEW JURY SOFTWARE AND AT THAT SAME TIME WE EXPANDED WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH RESPECT TO ALL OF THE COURTS IN THE COUNTY.
SO WE SUMMONS FOR ALL OF THE COURTS AND LIKE I SAID, WE HANDLE ALL OF THE EXEMPTIONS, ALL OF THE DISQUALIFICATIONS RESCHEDULES QUESTIONS.
UM, THERE'S SOME INTERESTING EXCUSES FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUTTA JURY DUTY, BUT UM, WE ALSO GO TO ALL OF THE COURTS, WE CHECK EVERYBODY IN, AND THEN WE PREPARE THE TRIAL PACKETS FOR THE JUDGES AND THE ATTORNEYS TO DO THEIR VOIR DIRE.
UM, LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR YEAR 2022, UM, WE HAD 113 JURIES REQUESTED BY ALL OF THE COURTS AND WE MAILED OUT 14,000 SUMMONS.
NOW, YES, THAT'S A LOT OF SUMMONS AND JUST THE NATURE OF COURT ACTIVITY.
YOU CAN PLAN FOR A TRIAL AND A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THE PARTIES MAY SETTLE OR THEY MAY GET EVERYTHING RESOLVED AND YOU DON'T NEED THAT JURY.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR NEW SOFTWARE IS WE'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE ELECTRONICALLY WITH PEOPLE.
AND SO WE'RE SENDING OUT TEXT MESSAGES AND EMAILS, UH, TO SAY, YOUR JURY SERVICE HAS BEEN CANCELED, OR WE SEND TWO NOTICES OVER THE WEEKEND OF REMINDER, YOU HAVE JURY DUTY ON MONDAY MORNING AND THIS HAS INCREASED OUR RESPONSE RATE.
WE'RE GETTING ABOUT 70, SOMETIMES CLOSE TO 80% RESPONSE RATE.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE ROWS ON JURY MORNING, BUT THAT MEANS HOW MANY PEOPLE RECEIVED A SUMMONS IN THE MAIL AND RESPONDED IN SOME WAY THAT SAID, YES, I'LL BE THERE.
I'M NOT QUALIFIED, I NEED TO RESCHEDULE SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD RESPONSE RATE.
UM, FOR 2022, WE WENT TO, UH, 45 JURIES TO GET 'EM CHECKED IN AND, UM,
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HANDLED ALMOST 5,000 EXEMPTIONS DISQUALIFICATIONS, WHETHER ONLINE OR BY PHONE.UM, I'VE PRESENTED TO Y'ALL ABOUT PASSPORTS.
UM, AS OF, UH, JUNE 30TH, OUR VOLUME FOR 2023 HAS INCREASED THE ENTIRE VOLUME FOR 2022.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY BUSY YEAR, UH, MARCH.
EVERYTHING SPIKES AT SPRING BREAK, SO THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL AND THAT'S KIND OF YOUR LAST WINDOW TO GET PASSPORTS, UH, BEFORE THE SUMMER VACATION SEASON STARTS.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA SEE A BIG SPIKE IN MARCH.
THE TWO EMPLOYEES ARE WALTON, IS ONE OF THEM GOING TO PASSPORT? SO YES, UH, YES.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HAD TO ASSIGN TWO OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO PASSPORTS FULL-TIME.
AND WHEN WE STARTED TAKING ON ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL JURY DUTIES ACROSS THE COUNTY WHEN WE ADDED PASSPORTS, WE NEEDED PEOPLE THEN.
BUT I DIDN'T WANNA COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR MORE EMPLOYEES UNTIL WE KIND OF SAW HOW THINGS SETTLED AND WE NEED MORE PEOPLE ON OUR COURT SIDE.
UM, WE NEED, SO ONE OF THEM TOO IS GONNA GO YES, TO BE DEDICATED TO THAT.
UM, TO KIND OF HELP THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THAT.
UM, OUR GROCERY RECEIPTS FROM JANUARY THROUGH JUNE OF 2023 HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED OUR ENTIRE GROCERY RECEIPTS FOR 2022.
SO IF WE KIND OF ESTIMATE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT BE AT THE END OF 2023 FOR GROCERY RECEIPTS, WE SHOULD BE IN THE ONE 70 TO 180, HOPEFULLY MORE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CONSERVATIVE OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE OUR GROSS RECEIPTS TO BE JUST FOR THE PASSPORT OFFICE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET, I'M ASKING FOR TWO FULL-TIME DEPUTIES ARE APPROVED.
UH, SALARY RANGE ON THAT IS THE 39 TO 52,000.
UM, WE TYPICALLY HIRE AT THE MID-LEVEL OR BELOW.
UM, THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY TO COME TO COURT IF WE NEED TO GO HIGHER, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN DOING CLERK STUFF FOR 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.
BUT WE TRY TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE.
UM, OVER THE YEARS WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF DONE THAT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, EXTRA SPACE IN THE BUDGET THERE.
UM, I HAVE TOTAL SALARY COST IF YOU BUDGET AT THE HIGH END.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE SLIGHTLY OFF, I WOULD GO WITH WHATEVER NUMBER BECKY TELLS YOU, BUT THAT'S FOR SALARIES AND INSURANCE AND BENEFITS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE ONE FULL DESK SET UP READY TO GO FOR ONE OF THESE EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND SO THAT 1100 ISH IS THE ESTIMATE TO GET THEM PHYSICALLY SET UP.
UH, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ELECTRONICS FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO FULL SETUPS COMPUTER-WISE.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S OUR, OUR BIG BUDGETARY ASK THIS YEAR IS THAT WE NEED TO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND REALLY IT'S TO HELP TAKE UP, UM, THE TIME THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEVOTE TO PASSPORTS TO FULFILL THOSE SERVICES.
UM, OUR OUR COURT SIDE OF THINGS NEEDS SOME HELP.
SO THAT'S A QUICK RUN THROUGH OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR ANYTHING? I CAN ANSWER? WHAT'S UH, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME FOR A PASSPORT RIGHT NOW ON NON-PE? IS IT NOT MARCH? NO, IF IT'S NOT MARCH, UM, TYPICALLY WE CAN GET YOU IN WITHIN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME OFF DAYS, LIKE SURPRISINGLY, JULY 3RD WAS SUPER BUSY, UM, AND WE KIND OF HAD TO HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK BECAUSE WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THERE AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IT WAS A HOLIDAY AND JUST A CHANCE TO GET IN.
SO WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE DAYS, BUT ON A TYPICAL DAY, UM, IF YOU'RE WAITING MORE THAN 10 MINUTES, THAT WOULD BE UNUSUAL.
I GET CALLS ABOUT JUST THINKING, THINKING ME, WHICH I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
YOU'RE DOING, WE LOVE TO HEAR COMPLIMENTS, ESPECIALLY MORE THAN COMPLAINTS.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, I KNOW WHAT YOUR GROSS RECEIPTS ARE.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE HARD COSTS ARE? LIKE ON A PER APP OR WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR EMPLOYEES.
BUT YEAH, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T ATTRIBUTE ANY EMPLOYEE COSTS.
UM, WE HAVE POSTAGE EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE MAILING.
IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE VOLUME.
UH, WE SEND SEVEN OR EIGHT APPLICATIONS IN ONE PRIORITY ENVELOPE, SO WE HAVE THAT DAILY COST, YOU KNOW, 10 PLUS DOLLARS PER DAY.
UM, AND THEN JUST KIND OF THE TYPICAL OFFICE
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EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, YOUR PRINTER COST.UM, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST COST WE HAVE IS WITH RESPECT TO OUR CAMERA AND THE, UH, PHOTO PAPER.
ANY REVENUE GO TO THE STATE OR, OR FILING OR UM, LICENSING OR ANY OF THAT? NO, ALL OF IT GOES TO GENERAL FUND.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UM, MONEY ORDERS.
AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS KIND OF WEIRD, BUT WHEN YOU SEND YOUR APPLICATION TO THE US STATE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERSONAL CHECK OR MONEY ORDERED STAPLED TO IT WITH THE FEES THAT GO TO THE FEDS.
UM, AND A BILL WAS PASSED, IT GOES INTO EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER THAT WILL ALLOW DISTRICT CLERKS TO SELL MONEY ORDERS.
WHAT WE SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL CHECK ANYMORE.
UM, AND THEY DON'T COME WITH THE MONEY ORDER, SO WE'RE HAVING TO SEND THEM OUT.
AND JUST AS A CONVENIENCE, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUGE MONEY GENERATOR, BUT IT WILL BE A CONVENIENCE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO OFFER IF WE CAN GET ALL OF THOSE REGULATORY DETAILS SORTED OUT.
SERENA, WE'RE NOTHING, UH, NEGATIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE PASSPORT OFFICE.
HOW MUCH MONEY WERE YOU'RE ONE OF, YOU'RE OUR FIRST CUSTOMER, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE LOSING PER YEAR ON THE PASSPORT OFFICE? LOSING YEAH, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOT LOSING ANY MONEY.
UM, WE HAVE NUMBERS TO BACK THAT UP.
NO, I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY, I'M ASSUMING, GOES TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE PASSPORT, THE MONEY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED.
SO WHEN I'M TALKING GROCERY RECEIPTS, WHEN, UH, I SHOWED YOU THAT THAT'S ALL TO THE COUNTY, UM, WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING TWO PAYMENTS, SO ONE'S GONNA BE LIKE I TALKED ABOUT THAT STAPLED CHECK OR MONEY ORDER.
IT'S USUALLY A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT GOES TO THE FEDS.
WE DON'T PROCESS THAT OR ANYTHING.
WHEN FOLKS COME IN, THERE'S A $35 FEE THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY FOR THE APPLICATION FEE.
AND THEN IF THEY DO ANY PHOTOS, THAT'S $15.
UM, SO THE, THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAD UP THERE, THE 1 71 I BELIEVE A THOUSAND THAT WE'VE GOT THIS SO FAR THIS YEAR.
1 31 THIS YEAR OR LIKE, UH, 1 31.
SO AT THAT POINT, POINT FOR THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE HAVING TO DEDICATE, SUBTRACT THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE DEDICATED IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING SALARIES CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION.
I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO GET DOWN TO THE, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T COME TO Y'ALL TO ASK FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE'RE HURTING ON OUR COURT SIDE TO OFFER THIS SERVICE.
I WANTED TO GET TO A POINT TO WHERE I FELT LIKE THE PASSPORT OFFICE WAS FUNDING ITSELF.
IF THE NUMBERS CONTINUE THIS YEAR THE WAY WE ANTICIPATE, I THINK WE WILL GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE COVERING THOSE SALARIES.
UM, THE GOAL WOULD BE AT SOME POINT THAT WE'RE MORE THAN COVERING THAT.
NO, I'M, I'M NOT BEING NEGATIVE, I JUST NO, NO.
I, THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE IN A, IN AS I'VE MADE THIS SPEECH MANY TIMES BEFORE IN THE VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION OF TRYING TO PRIORITIZE REQUESTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION.
AND I DON'T WANNA, AND THAT'S WHY I'VE SAID GROSS BECAUSE MM-HMM.
BUT YES, THE, THE HIGH COST FOR ANY OFFICE IS GONNA BE SALARY.
SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE'RE ANALYZING THAT.
AND THEN THE OPERATING COST, JUST TO SAY FOR F Y 23, BECAUSE WE DID DECIDE WHENEVER, UM, PASSPORTS CAME ON IS TO TRACK THOSE OPERATING COSTS SEPARATELY.
AND SO BUDGETED FOR F Y 23 IS 12,815.
SO THAT, AND THEN THE TWO INDIVIDUALS, AND THE, THE BIGGEST COST ON THAT, ON THAT 12,000 IS FOR POSTAGE.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A MOVING TARGET.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS BUDGETED MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE REALLY NEED.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS AND PLAYING BUDGET GAMES, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT POSTAGE MONEY.
WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY LEFTOVERS AND BUYING FUN THINGS FOR THE OFFICE.
WE'VE LEFT IT, UM, TO TRY TO SHOW GOODWILL THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AS WE GROW.
AND SO THAT'S BUDGETED REALLY HIGH ON THE POSTAGE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TOPIC.
THAT SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE UTILIZING FOR THE JURORS YES.
IS THAT LIKE A, A, UH, A RANDOM OR, OR DOES THE OFFICE SPECIFICALLY CHOOSE PICK AND CHOOSE JURORS? IT'S RANDOM.
UM, SO THAT IS, IT IS A, UH, THE TYLER JURY SOFTWARE.
UM, AND JUST A REAL SHORT VERSION, AND WE CAN GET OFF INTO THE WEEDS IF YOU WANT TO.
THE SHORT VERSION IS WE GET A LIST ONCE A YEAR FROM THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE.
IT HAS FOLKS WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN PARKER COUNTY, OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR STATE ID WITH A PARKER COUNTY ADDRESS.
THOSE NAMES ALL GO INTO THE HAT AND IT IS A RANDOMIZATION.
UM, WE ESSENTIALLY TELL THE SYSTEM HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WANT FOR THIS DAY AND IT JUST RANDOMLY POPULATES THAT LIST.
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A SUMMONS, YOU'RE JUST THE LUCKY ONE THAT GOT ONE.THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK TO MAKE SURE IT WAS, CAUSE LAST YEAR I GOT A JURY SUMMONS ON THE DAY OF OUR RUNOFF ELECTION, SO I THOUGHT I'D ASK
I PROMISE THERE WAS NO FUNNY BUSINESS WITH THAT
SO NO, IT, IT ENDED UP GETTING SETTLED.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY ELSE THING ELSE THAT I CAN ASK, ANSWER ABOUT OUR OPERATIONS? ALL RIGHT.
HEY JUDGE, HOW ABOUT IF WE TAKE A BREAK BETWEEN THESE NEXT, BEFORE THIS NEXT ONE? BEFORE THE NEXT ONE.
UM, WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS, UM, AT 10 0 6.
WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT 10 18 AND MOVE TO
[I.C. Discussion/Presentation on Departments 510 and 513 Building & Grounds and South Convenience Center budget requests. (Mark Long / Judge Deen) ]
ITEM C ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION DEPARTMENT FIVE TEN FIVE THIRTEEN BUILDING GROUNDS AND SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER BUDGET REQUEST MARK AND TEAM NUMBER, IS IT 30? GOOD MORNING.THANK Y'ALL KNOW SYLVIA, SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S WORKED THIS UP FOR ME.
SO SHE'S GONNA EXPLAIN A LOT OF IT TO YOU.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST THAT I'M ASKING THIS YEAR, WHERE DID THEY UP TO THESE TWO? I NEED 2 2, 2 TRUCKS.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF OUR TRUCKS GOT REAR-ENDED AND ANOTHER TRUCK MOTOR THREW A ROD IN.
UH, THEN, UH, WE'RE WANTING TO, UH, WHERE DID THAT PAPER GO TO? WHICH ONE? THE ONE I HAD YOU TYPE UP THIS MORNING.
UH, THE DISTRICT COURT'S BUILDING THAT REDO THE OUTSIDE OF IT IS, IS UH, JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN UH, 200.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND I'VE ALREADY GOT IT SET UP TO START IN, IN OCTOBER, THE MODIFICATIONS AND OF CARPET AND PAINTING IN JUDGE BERRY'S, UH, AREA.
THAT'S 32, BUT WE'LL TAKE IT OUT OF OUR MAINTENANCE LINE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, 85,000 FOR THE OLD COUNTY ATTORNEY BUILDING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DAMAGE IT HAD TO REPLACE ALL THE CARPET IN THERE.
UM, IS IS $84,000 AND 35,000 OR 38,000 OF THAT IS CONTENT MAN, MANIPUL MOVING ALL THE CRAP OUT OF THE WAY.
THE REMODELING OF THE WEATHERFORD POLICE STATION.
YOU BETTER PLAN ON ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THE SAME THING ON THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ARCHITECT BRINGS UP.
AND THE NOW THEN JUST OUR REGULAR BUDGET.
SYLVIA'S GONNA TAKE UP ON THAT.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YES.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DAMAGE FROM THAT STORM? YES.
IS THERE NOT INSURANCE MONEY FOR THAT? YES, THE INSURANCE IS PAYING 14,000.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE CARPET.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH DAMAGE TO JUSTIFY THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO OKAY.
SO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE MOVED ALL THE STUFF OUTTA THE WAY.
WE SAVE ALMOST 40 GRAND ON THAT.
AND WHAT I PLAN ON DOING ON THE CARPET IS GOING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
I JUST GOT THAT, I JUST GOT THAT ESTIMATE YESTERDAY.
PROBABLY GONNA GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OKAY.
BUT ANY, ANY, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS ANYBODY, ANYTIME YOU HAVE DAMAGE INSIDE A BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO FIX IT IN LINE OF SIGHT.
THEY CAN'T JUST PATCH THIS CARPET RIGHT HERE, THEY GOTTA TAKE THE WHOLE THING AND THAT'S WHAT IT'LL BE UPSTAIRS.
BUT ALL THE DOWNSTAIRS AND THE STAIRS STUFF.
UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE SOUTHSIDE CONVENIENCE CENTER BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH THERE.
UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE INCREASES TO THE APPLICATIONS LIKE THE MCAN WHO TAKES CARE OF THE PORTABLE POTTIES.
I WENT AHEAD AND JUST INCREASED THAT BY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PRICE INCREASE THIS MONTH OR THIS YEAR.
UM, IF WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME
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AT ATTENDANT AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE FULL-TIME AND TWO PART-TIME.UH, OUR FULL-TIME GUY, HE JUST MAXED OUT ON HIS VACATION.
I MADE HIM TAKE A DAY OFF CUZ I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO LOSE ANY OF HIS TIME.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO COVER HIM.
UM, AS FAR AS 4, 5, 10 US HERE AT BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS, WE NEED TWO PICKUPS, TWO ADDITIONAL TRUCKS.
WE HAVE ONE THAT WAS ORDERED IN 2023 THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED YET.
AND WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL, UH, AS FAR AS OUR BUDGET, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF INCREASES THAT WE ASKED FOR.
WE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE IN OUR SUPPLY LINE, WHICH IS WHAT WE USED TO BUY THE, OUR SUPPLIES PLUS THE COFFEE SUPPLIES FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, AN INCREASE IN THE JANITORIAL SUPPLIES BECAUSE PRICES HAVE GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY.
I'VE HAD TO DO THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THIS YEAR ALREADY.
UH, THE UH, ON THE SUPPLY AND THEN THE JANITORIAL SUPPLIES, I HAD TO INCREASE THREE TIMES THIS YEAR ALREADY.
UH, WE ASKED FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE ON THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE LINE JUST BECAUSE OF COSTS.
UH, WE HAVE YOUR SPECIAL EVENTS LINE.
UH, WE DID HAVE TO TRANSFER SOME MONEY INTO THAT THIS YEAR, UH, AFTER CHRISTMAS CUZ WE PAY FOR, WE TAKE THE LIFT AND EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED TO PUT UP THE TREE OUT OF THAT LINE.
AND UH, WE ALSO WANTED AN INCREASE IN THE SERVICE CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF UNEXPECTED.
SO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT OF THAT LINE AS FAR AS LIKE CLEANUP OF STORM DAMAGE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE HAVE.
WE DID ASK FOR A COUPLE OF LAPTOPS SO WE COULD WORK FROM HOME ON BAD WEATHER DAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE GET REQUESTS SET ALL HOURS.
DID IT, IT IT PASS ME OR DID YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY NEW EMPLOYEES AT ALL? NO, I DON'T NEED ANY NEW EMPLOYEES, BUT I THINK MY NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WE HAVE WILL SUFFICE.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE SALARY WISE.
SO I WANT TO INCREASE MY SALARY LINE SOME.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? UH, TOTAL WITH THE CONVENIENCE CENTER? 20 20 21? UH, WITH THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WE HAVE ABOUT 19 TOTAL.
BUT MAY NOT BE, WE'RE DOWN, WE'RE DOWN ONE EMPLOYEE NOW AND I'M HOLDING OUT CAUSE I, SOMEBODY'S HVAC EXPERIENCED THE BACK, CHRIS, MY FOREMAN.
SO IF I, IF I HAVE TO HOLD OUT, I'LL HAS, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE POSITIONS WE NEED TO INCREASE THE WAGES ON.
HAS THAT NUMBER, HAS THAT NUMBER? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? DO YOU KNOW? I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
WE HAVEN'T ADDED OR TAKEN AWAY IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN THE SAME.
IS IT NOT? WE DID ADD ONE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE OVER AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER LAST YEAR AND WE ADDED ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH US AS THE JANITORIAL.
SO WE HAVE TWO PART-TIME JANITORIAL THAT I USE TO COVER THE BUILDINGS WHEN I HAVE GIRLS THAT ARE OUT SICK OR ON VACATION AS FAR AS OUR TECHS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S MAINTAINED THE SAME.
AND I DON'T REALLY SEE A REASON TO INCREASE THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WE ARE SHORT, BUT THERE'S TIMES WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR STUFF TO DO.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I I JUST WANNA LEAVE THAT LIKE IT IS, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL ON THE RECLASSIFICATION TAB TO GO THROUGH JUST THE POSITIONS OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND THEN THAT WAY OF COURT HAS ANY ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THE BUDGET HEARINGS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MEMO? UM, THE MEMO OR, I MEAN ON THE RECLASSIFICATION TAB THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR RECLASSIFICATIONS.
SO IT'D PROBABLY BE HELPFUL TO THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
CINDY, DO WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE? YEAH, LET ME GO MAKE COPIES.
UMACTUALLY, I PULL, PUT THE NAME ON HER.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT TO THEM THAT WAY.
CAUSE THESE ACTUALLY HAVE THE EMPLOYEE NAME.
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I'M GONNA WAIT TILL Y'ALL GET THE PAY PAPER BACK.THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DO RIGHT HERE AS FAR AS THE POSITIONS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON YOUR SHEET DO NOT INCLUDE RETIREMENT AND FICA, WHICH BECKY ALWAYS PUTS TOGETHER WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL COST NEXT ITEM.
UH, THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT THAT WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT DOING IS, UH, OF COURSE I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE, UH, DISTRICT COURT FOUR 15 THAT'S IN THERE.
YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THAT INCLUDED OR IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S INCLUDED? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT.
DIDN'T IT? THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY OTHER YEAH.
UM, MOST OF ALL THIS OTHER STUFF WAS GONNA COME OUT OF MY MAINTENANCE LINE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAN GET IT DONE.
AND AS Y'ALL WELL KNOW, WE HAVE TO START A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME TO GET ANYTHING DONE IS HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THAT DONE.
SO, BUT ALL THIS WILL COME OUT OF MY MAINTENANCE LINE.
THE ADDITIONAL PRODUCT IS THE MAINLY THE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, DISTRICT COURTS BUILDING.
AND THAT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S ON THIS SHEET.
SO MAYBE IF YOU CAN PROVIDE A DETAIL, UH, IT'S, THERE'S A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE NAMING AT THE BEGINNING THAT YOU'RE READING OFF THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
THE, UH, DISTRICT REPORTS BUILDING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OUTSIDE OF IT, IT'S, FIRST OFF, IT'S GOT THAT MOLD OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, THE BLACK STUFF ROLLING ON IT.
AND THEN YOUR BANISTER'S UP AT TOP, THEY'RE FALLING APART.
ALL YOUR CAULKING AND PAINT AROUND ALL THE WINDOWS ARE CRACKING.
IT'S JUST A, IT'S, IT'S JUST A MAINTENANCE SITUATION THAT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IT'LL ALL BE SCRAPED, RECALLED, REPAINTED, CLEANED, ANYTHING ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO I THINK YOU'VE OUTLINED ABOUT THREE THINGS THERE.
ONE, ONE IS THE NEW BUILDING ON SANTA FE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
UH, THE SECOND ONE IS THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX, WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THE THIRD ONE IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT COURT'S BUILDING.
AND NONE OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN HERE, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED ESTIMATES SO THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER ALLOCATE SOME MONEY THERE AS WE MOVE ALONG.
NOT NECESSARILY FROM YOU, BUT NOW WE, I DID MEET WITH A, WITH A, UH, UH, TOMMY OF, UH, ION.
AND WE KIND OF ESTIMATED THE COST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, LIKE AT SPRINGTOWN IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE SOME UTILITIES, SEPTICS MM-HMM.
SO YOU FIGURE AROUND A MILLION.
IS WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WELL AGO.
A MILLION FOR SPRINGTOWN AND A MILLION FOR THE POLICE STATION.
NOT, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN WE NEED, BUT IT'S, IT'S TOUGHER TO COME BACK TO THE, WELL LATER ON I THINK.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WERE INPUT INTO S TW THAT AREN'T ON THE REQUEST LIST.
AND SO AS WE GO INTO THE PROPOSED, I'LL
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ZERO THOSE OUT.SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ON KIM'S LIST, WHICH IS UM, $8,000 FOR SMALL TOOLS.
AND THEN THERE IS $8,000 FOR GROUNDS EQUIPMENT NON CAP.
AND THEN OF COURSE WHAT'S IN HERE IS ALSO THE HVAC EQUIPMENT FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
UM, AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION AND I KNOW WE ADDED THIS LINE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, UM, WHICH WAS THE OFFICE AND EQUIPMENT RENTAL.
SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE CRANES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO I KNOW WE HAVEN'T UTILIZED IT THIS YEAR AND SO THERE'S 20,000 BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WE, WE INTEND WE WENT AHEAD AND LEFT IT IN THERE.
WE USE THAT FOR THE CRANES WHEN WE ARE PUTTING THE NEW UNITS UP ON THE, ON THE ROOFTOPS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO IT YET.
AND WE'RE COMING INTO THE BUSY SEASON, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT THERE.
AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE, UH, LAST YEAR WE, WE TOOK OUT NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS TO REPLACE ALL THE HVAC UNITS AND TALK TO THE JAIL AND SHERIFF AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA GET DONE THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN IN SOMEWHERE AROUND OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AREA IF WE'RE LUCKY.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE THE, THE STUFF, SO WE'LL HAVE TO REQUEST THAT ROLLOVER.
BUT WE HAVE ENCUMBERED, WE'LL WANNA MOVE IT OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO FROM OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS MORNING, YOU DID SAY, UM, WE HAVE PAID FOR THE UNITS CUZ THE UNITS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED.
IT'S JUST NOT THE INSTALLATION.
THEY'RE, OH, SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING SOME OF THE PARTS, SOME, SOME OF THE CONTROLLERS.
SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL SYSTEM INSIDE THERE IS ALSO OBSOLETE AND IT'S GONNA BE REPLACED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON COLLECTING.
AND THAT'S ALL DUE TO SUPPLY ISSUES AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET 'EM IN STOCK.
SO ONCE WE GET INTO THEN THE BUDGET COURTS GETTING AS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE NEED TO ROLL OVER.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY EXPECTS TO RECEIVE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, YOU KNOW, THEN THOSE WE COULD PAY OUT OF THIS BUDGET YEAR IF WE'VE RECEIVED THEM.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE HAVEN'T THEN YES THAT ANY AMOUNT WOULD HAVE TO BE ROLLED OVER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
OH, I DID HAVE ONE COMMENT, SORRY.
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND I KNOW, UM, I HAD BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE COURTS AGO CUZ WE'VE HAD BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, UM, FOR THE NORTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I HAD JUST KIND OF PUT SOME FIGURES TOGETHER AND JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, 2022 ACTUAL EXPENDITURES WERE ABOUT 204,000 AND THEN THE REVENUE THAT WAS GENERATED WAS ABOUT 46,000.
UM, AND THEN IF WE LOOK, THAT WAS AT THE NORTH AND THEN THE SOUTH, UM, ACTUALS WERE 134,000 AND THEN BROUGHT IN ALMOST 57,000.
SO I KNOW WHEN THE FEES WERE SET UP, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS NOT THE INTENT OBVIOUSLY TO COVER THE COST OF WHAT IT WAS, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY WANNA JUST BE CONSIDERED AS WE LOOK AT IT.
AND EVEN JUST IN THE, YOU KNOW, 2023 BUDGET.
UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO TAKE FROM CONTINGENCY, UH, FOR THE NORTH WE'RE AT 499,000 AND WE'VE, UM, COLLECTED THUS FOUR 45,000 AND THEN, UM, YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURES, UM, ON THE SOUTH OR ABOUT 139,000 AND WE'VE BROUGHT IN ABOUT 46,000 SO FAR.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S QUITE, THEY'RE COSTLY, YOU KNOW.
AND, AND I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH COUNTY CLEANUP DAY IS AND THEN IMPLEMENTING, UM, BRINGING ON THESE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
SO AGAIN, IT MAY JUST BE SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THE FEE THAT'S BEING CHARGED FOR THESE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST.
AND SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, UH, THE COST, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE SOME EMPLOYEE, BUT JUST THE AMOUNT ON THE CONTAINERS, ENTIRE DISPOSAL.
UM, SO I MEAN CUZ THERE'S SOME COURTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN A WEEK OR TWO IT'S $12,000.
SO JUST SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE, UM, AS WE GO INTO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO HAVE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
UM, MR. LONG BROUGHT US A, A REVISED FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD
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WANT TO REVISIT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.ONE THING I DO WANNA SAY ABOUT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER SOUTH THAT I KNOW ABOUT, AND I IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME WAY, 98% OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN THERE ARE SO GLAD THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING THIS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER 2% THAT SAYS WASN'T BUILT RIGHT.
I'VE EVEN HAD PEOPLE GET OUTTA THEIR VEHICLES AND BLOW UP INTO MY GUYS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTRACTORS, WE WON'T LET 'EM DUMP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT, THAT JUST, I GUESS IT'S JUST PART OF THE GAME, SO YOU'RE NEVER GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
WE GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS, BUT THOSE ONES THAT DO THAT THEY EITHER I'LL CALL 'EM IF I GET THEIR NUMBER AND I'LL TALK TO 'EM AND THEY CAN COME APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE THEY DID THAT TO OR THEY CANNOT COME BACK.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL FOR ME TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING.
OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE NORTH YES SIR.
THIS AND THEN HERE AND THEN THAT'S IS
[I.D. Discussion/Presentation on Department 497 Treasurer budget requests. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ]
WE TO ITEM D ON THE DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 97 TREASURER BUDGET REQUEST.BECKY, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THIS IN YOUR BOOKS.
SO WHICH ONE ARE WE ON? WHAT TAB DO YOU THINK YOU'RE ON? CAN EIGHT, APPARENTLY NOBODY ELSE DOES.
I GOT, CAN, CAN I MENTION SOMETHING REAL QUICK JUST BEFORE WE PUT A COMPLETE PERIOD IN THIS LAST ONE? SURE.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE HER OWN, UH, ON THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
OH, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE SAYS 27 THAT THE NORTHERN CENTER ATTRACTS A DIFFERENT, UM, TYPE OF USER, DIFFERENT TYPE OF DROP OFFS, ET CETERA THAN THE SOUTHERN CENTER.
I MEAN THE NORTHERN CENTER GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU KNOW, POPULATION DENSITY, ET CETERA.
BUT WE'RE RUNNING AT ABOUT A 42, 40 3% REVENUE TO EXPENDITURE RATE ON THE SOUTH AND WE'RE RUNNING AT ABOUT 23% ON THE NORTH.
SO WE MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ON THAT FEE SCHEDULE HAVING A DIFFERENT FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE NORTH THAN ON THE SOUTH BECAUSE IF THE NORTH, IF YOU'RE GETTING BLOWN UP ON YOUR COSTS ON THINGS THAT ARE PRICED THE SAME AS THE SOUTH, BUT YOU'RE GETTING A LOT MORE OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE ITEMS TO DISPOSE OF IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT.
TIRES PRO PERHAPS COULD BE, I THINK IT'S IN THE ACTUAL, UH, CONTAINERS, WHICH, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL GET A LOT OF BRUSH, BUT ALL THAT IS THAT YEAH, BUT THE BRUSH DOESN'T GO INTO THE CONTAINER.
DO WHATEVER WITH FOR THE TIME BEING, IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE CONTAINER, THE CHIPPER THING, WE DON'T USE THAT CHIPPER.
I THINK YOU'RE ABLE TO BURN YOURS, AREN'T YOU? YEAH.
AND A LOT OF LUMBER THAT WOULD BE IN THOSE CONTAINERS.
UH, BECKY IF YOU WOULD, FLOOR IS YOURS.
SO LAST YEAR WHENEVER COURT ALLOWED ME TO COMBINE THE HR OFFICE WITH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE, I TOLD Y'ALL THAT I WOULD ELIMINATE A POSITION BY DOING THAT.
SO THIS LITTLE COMBO SHEET THAT I JUST SHOWED Y'ALL, AND I EXPLAINED LAST YEAR THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE A SAVINGS THAT WE WOULD SEE OVER TWO YEARS.
SO THIS JUST KIND OF COMPLETES, UM, THE PICTURE TO SHOW OVER A TWO YEAR SAVINGS.
I HAVE CUT $135,550 FROM THE BUDGET BY DOING SO.
UM, SO EVEN THOUGH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE BUDGET IS GOING TO GO UP SOMEWHAT THIS YEAR, IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL A DECREASE WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE COMBO OF THE TWO, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE REMAINDER OF LIKE THE ASSISTANT POSITION FROM HR, MOVE THAT OVER.
SO THAT'S, THAT $30,000, ALMOST $31,000 IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT SALARY COMING OVER.
AND THEN ALSO THE POSITION THAT CAME OVER FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THERE IS IN YELLOW, I HIGHLIGHTED SOME SPOTS THAT I AM PUTTING SOME MONEY IN.
UM, THERE WAS JUST NOT ANY MONEY THERE LAST YEAR AND I HAVE DONE ENOUGH BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS AND I JUST DON'T CARE TO HAVE TO DO ANYMORE.
AND SO, BUT ANYWHERE THAT I'M PUTTING MONEY THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE I LOWERED MONEY IN OTHER CATEGORIES.
SO ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES WASH EACH OTHER OUT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT, AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WITH NEW BUILDINGS AND WHERE PEOPLE GOING AND THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BUILDING AND GROUNDS REQUEST THAT I TALKED TO MARK LONG ABOUT.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE AUDITOR'S
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OFFICE IS ON BOARD WITH AS WELL AS THE IT DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT MAKING THAT HALLWAY.IF OUR THREE DEPARTMENTS STAY WHERE THEY ARE SECURING THAT HALLWAY TO MAKE IT A NON-PUBLIC ACCESS TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO EMPLOY BADGE IN, IT'S JUST A SECURITY FEATURE THAT HALLWAY, UM, HOUSES THE IT SERVER FOR THE COUNTY, IT HOUSES TREASURER AND HR.
SO WE HAVE HIPAA GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
WE HAVE THOSE INTERNAL PROTECTIONS IN THE OFFICE ALREADY, UM, OF LOCKING FILING CABINETS, HAVING SEPARATE LOCKS FOR DOORS.
BUT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, CHECKS, ACCOUNT NUMBERS, BANK STATEMENTS, INVESTMENT REPORTS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT, AGAIN, WE HAVE INTERNAL PROTECTIONS, BUT IF SOMEBODY JUST WALKS IN, WE FEEL BETTER WITH ANOTHER LAYER OF SECURITY TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY CAN'T TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, OF SOMETHING'S SITTING ON SOMEBODY'S DESK THAT THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR JUST A SWIPE BADGE TO BE PUT ON THE TREASURE'S DOOR.
AND THEN BRIANNA WAS KIND OF THINKING OF, WELL, MAYBE SOMETHING ON THE AUDITOR'S DOOR, JAMES STARTED AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, INSTEAD OF DOING THREE DIFFERENT BADGES, WHAT IF WE JUST LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WALLING OFF THAT WHOLE HALLWAY AND JUST HAVING ONE EMPLOYEE ACCESS POINT THERE, THAT DOORWAY, THE EXTERNAL, EXTERNAL DOOR IS ALREADY LOCKED TO THE PUBLIC.
I KNOW WHEN THE CITY WEATHERFORD BUILDING WAS FIRST BEING DISCUSSED, THE FIRST DISCUSSION WAS TO MOVE OUR OFFICES TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT NOW.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF WE GET MOVED, THIS IS A NON-ISSUE, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO PUT ON THE RADAR.
TH THAT'S THIS $10,000 LINE ITEM.
I HAD VISITED WITH MARK LONG AND HE SAID HE FELT LIKE IT'D BE ABOUT $10,000 TO WALL IT OFF.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW MUCH THE, THE CODE WOULD BE.
I THINK 10,000 WOULD COVER THE WHOLE THING AND, AND I I DON'T, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.
AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS ALREADY.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE AN OPTION FOR US TO DO A CODED ACCESS FOR EACH RESPECTIVE DOOR TO EACH DEPARTMENT THAT'S NOT OUTSIDE? UM, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S AN OPTION TOO THAT YOU HAVE TO BADGE INTO EACH DOOR.
BUT WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THAT THE BADGE SWIPES ARE LITERALLY AS EXPENSIVE AS DOING THE WALL.
SO IF WE COULD DO A WALL AND ONE SWIPE FOR THE SAME THING FOR THREE.
SO IF YOU DID HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT HAD TO COME SEE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THEY'RE NOT SWAPPING TWICE.
IF THE PUBLIC DOES NEED TO COME IN, THEY WOULD CHECK IN WITH SECURITY, LET 'EM KNOW WHO THEY'RE THERE TO SEE, AND THEN WE WOULD COME UP AND GET THAT PERSON.
WOULD THAT BE, BUT ANY EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THEIR BADGE? WOULD THAT, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? PLEASE.
UM, MY BACK DOOR LEADS INTO THAT HALLWAY AND I ALREADY HAVE A SWIPE.
SO I THINK YOU AND I HAD, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IT HAD THOUGHT, CUZ YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THAT OFFICE, MY OLD HR SPACE, IF THERE WASN'T A WAY THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO A DOORWAY TO WHERE IT HAS TWO DOORS RIGHT ACROSS THE HALL FROM EACH OTHER TO WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO PUBLIC ACCESS POINT TO IT, WOULD THAT BE AN INCONVENIENCE TO, IS THERE A, THERE'S A RESTROOM THAT, PUBLIC RESTROOM, THAT, THAT WOULD ALSO WOULD, OR WOULD THAT IMPACT THAT? THERE IS A, THERE ARE TWO, THERE IS A SMALL MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM BACK IN THAT I THINK THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM IS TWO STALLS.
I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE MEN'S ROOMS, SO I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THE BIG PUBLIC BATHROOMS ARE STILL YEAH.
ON, WOULD STILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT'S A EXCELLENT IDEA ABOUT WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY EASY TO DO ACTUALLY.
UM, I'M, I'M SURPRISED IT'S THE SAME.
UM, IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT, I GUESS FOR ONE ACCESS POINT THAN HAVING TO, FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE TO DO THAT FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE DOOR.
AND IF IT'S THE SAME PRICE, WHY NOT? SURE.
AND THAT WAS JUST THE CONVERSATION I THINK I HAD WITH BRIANNA FIRST OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, I'M THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT AND, YOU KNOW, WE ASKING FOR THAT.
AND SHE WAS LIKE, WOW, I'D REALLY KIND OF LIKE TO PUT SOME EXTRA SECURITY FOR THE THINGS IN OUR OFFICE AS WELL.
AND THEN WE JUST LOOPED JAMES INTO IT AS WELL.
SO HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
[I.E. Discussion/Presentation on Department 406 Office of Emergency Services budget requests. (Sean Hughes / Judge Deen)]
GOOD.ITEM E ON THE DISCUSSION PRESENTATION DEPARTMENT 4 0 6, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES BUDGET REQUEST.
UM, WHAT I DID PASS OUT TO, UH, THOSE INTERESTED WAS A, UH, SUMMARY.
UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, OUR ACCOUNTS.
UM, ANGIE WAS A HUGE HELP IN PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BUDGET AND I ASKED HER TO DO A SUMMARY, UH, FOR THE ACCOUNTS AND 4 5 43.
UM, IF I COULD KINDA RUN DOWN THAT LIST FIRST, UH, OF WHAT I GAVE YOU SIX.
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IN THE LOUNGE TO MATCH, UM, LOUNGE.WE HAD INCREASE IN SUPPLY DUE, THE COST INCREASES THAT EVERYONE EXPERIENCING GASOLINE, OIL, AND DIESEL.
UM, WE HAD, UH, 18,006 2.29 FOR, UH, REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT THAT IS REACHED END LIFE, THAT'S RESCUE TYPE EQUIPMENT.
AND, AND I DID ATTACH ITEMIZED EQUIPMENT TO JUSTIFY, UH, WHAT THAT 18 6 2 WAS FOUR, UM, IN, UH, RADIO EQUIPMENT.
UM, WE DID ADD SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR PORTABLE, UH, PORTABLE RADIO BATTERY REPLACEMENT.
UM, MUST HAVE TO BE REPLACED PERIODICALLY.
UM, WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE IN 2,500 IN SMALL TOOLS THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY LEFT OUTTA THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN BACK INTO PLACE.
BUT WE DID DROP, UM, WE REQUEST, UH, MOVING ON TO CONTRACT SERVICES.
UM, WORKING WITH KIM, REGIS, WE'RE MOVING THE MOTOROLA MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, UH, FROM HER ACCOUNT TO THIS ACCOUNT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, AN ACTUAL NUMBER YET.
I PUT 6 99 IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUDGETED ENOUGH.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT NUMBER WILL COME DOWN.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCREPANCY, BUT WE WANTED TO PUT A BUFFER IN THERE, UH, FOR THE COURT.
I EXPECT TO HAVE THAT NUMBER BY THE END OF JULY.
AND THAT NUMBER GET WITH, UM, UH, AND, AND BRIANNA GET THAT THE ACTUAL COST OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, UH, FINALIZED DOWN, UM, EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS ALL INCREASES.
SMALL TOOLS ACTUALLY HAVE SMALL, SORRY.
WE COMBINED THOSE AND I THINK I'M GONNA ZERO IT OUT FOR PURPOSES OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET CUZ WE DON'T PUT ANY, YOU KNOW, SALARY CHANGES OR ANYTHING IN THERE, WHICH WOULD BE ONE OR, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS FOR THE, UM, CLOTHING ALLOWANCE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, BECKY WILL ADDRESS, UM, LATER ON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
JUST ABOUT THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE.
CUZ LAST YEAR, UM, THERE WERE CHANGES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND I KNOW OTHERS HAVE, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT JUST CORRECT DEPARTMENT, BUT OTHERS HAVE ASKED FOR, UM, ADJUSTMENTS TO MATCH THAT AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE POLICY, I THINK IN GENERAL THAT'LL BE, UM, BROUGHT UP TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION AS A POLICY CHANGE, NOT JUST DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.
[I.F. Discussion/Presentation on Department 543 Fire Marshal budget requests. (Sean Hughes / Judge Deen) ]
WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO 5 43.IN THE FIRE MARSHALS BUDGET, 5 43, UH, AGAIN WITH, UH, GOING BACK TO THE SUMMARY SHEET, UH, I DID, UH, I AM REQUESTING A, UH, A STEP BUMP FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UH, FOR, FOR MY OFFICE, ANGIE HARGROVE, UH, SHE'S STILL CURRENTLY IN THE BOTTOM TIER OF, OF THAT, UH, PAY GRADE.
SO I'M ASKING FOR A BUMP THERE FOR, FOR THAT POSITION.
UH, ALSO, UH, AN INCREASE IN PART-TIME SO WE'RE NOT HIRING FULL-TIME PEOPLE.
UH, A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE IN THE COST OF SUPPLIES.
AGAIN, A, A GASOLINE DIESEL, UH, ANTICIPATING, UH, COST INCREASES FOR FUEL.
AND THAT MONEY, OF COURSE, IS USED AS NEEDED.
AND IF IT'S NOT USED, IT, IT'S, UH, JUST NOT USED.
UH, THAT SMALL EQUIPMENT WAS WHERE WE HAD A, WHERE WE MOVED THAT MONEY TO.
UM, WE DID HAVE A DECREASE IN EQUIPMENT REPAIR DUE TO, IN, IN 2023 WE DID, UH, EXPERIENCE A LIGHTNING STRIKE.
UM, AND WITH THE INSURANCE FUNDS TO REPAIR THOSE, UH, RADIO TOWERS, UH, THOSE TOWERS ARE FULLY FUNCTIONAL AND OPERATIONAL AT THIS TIME.
UM, SO WE TOOK THAT MONEY OUT THAT WAS, WAS, UH, BUDGETED 112,000, UH, DUE TO THAT, UH, INSURANCE CLAIM,
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UM, IN OFFICE EQUIPMENT IN 5 3 3 70, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND STRIKE THAT.THAT $500 WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE, UM, THE REPLACEMENT SCREENS FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER OUTTA THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO WE ARE GONNA DECREASE THAT $500, BUT WE ARE EXP UH, EXPECTING, UH, SOME INCREASE IN THE TIRE LEASES.
UM, NOT ONLY FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM, BUT ALSO JUST THE, THE NATURE OF RADIO TOWERS HAVE, ARE INCREASING THE, THE LEASES.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE CONTRACT SERVICES.
SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ADJUSTED FOR THE NEW RATES FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT THEN IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE SHEET TO STW, THERE'S LIKE A $21,000 DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE WAITING ON SOME FINAL FIGURES TO OKAY.
TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CORRECT.
AND ONCE WE GET THOSE FINAL FIGURES, WE'LL WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE AND KIM'S OFFICE, UM, TO FINALIZE THOSE FIGURES.
UM, OTHER CHANGES MOVING DOWN THROUGH, UH, NO INCREASES IN ANY OF THOSE.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER, UH, BIG CHANGE WAS TO REPLACE A 2007 FORD EXPEDITION WITH, UH, HIGH MILES MULTIPLE REPAIRS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
THAT VEHICLE'S STARTING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY TO REPAIR IT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR REPLACEMENT WITH A P PV, UH, POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLE.
UM, AND THAT'S COM THAT NUMBER'S COMPLETELY OUTFITTED AND DONE.
WHAT WOULD THAT, UH, HIGH MILES, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? 160, 164,000.
AND WITH THE DELAY IN GETTING THOSE VEHICLES THAT THAT VEHICLE IS USED EVERY DAY AND THOSE MILES WOULD CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT 5 43 THAT ALL YOU HAVE ON THE, UM, ON THE VEHICLE? THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT A BREAKDOWN HERE AND ALL OF THESE MAKE SENSE.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, AND I I DO RECALL YOU MENTIONING BEFORE THAT THESE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT $10,000 FOR A MOBILE RADIO.
I NEED TO GET IN THE MOBILE RADIO BUSINESS.
UM, WE, WE HAD SIMILAR, THAT'S WORTH MORE THAN MUCH.
COMMISSIONER, UH, I THINK BELIEVE BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE COURT ABOUT THE COST OF, OF RADIOS, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE.
UM, 10 TO 15, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET 20 YEARS OUT OF 'EM, BUT 10 TO 15 IS GENERALLY, UH, THE, THE USEFUL LIFE.
THESE RADIOS CAN BE TAKEN OUT AND PUT INTO OTHER ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.
UM, CURRENTLY MY OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF VE A LOT OF VEHICLE RADIOS AS PART OF THE FLEET, THE RADIO FLEET.
UM, BUT UM, IT, IT, IT IS, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE.
AND MOTOROLA'S ANSWER IS COST OF SUPPLIES AND MANUFACTURER.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD ON THE PACKAGE WAS THE MCT SOFTWARE.
DO YOU MIND TELLING ME WHAT MOBILE COMMAND TERMINAL IT? IT'S, IT'S ALLOWS US TO STAY, STAY CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGHOUT THE VEHICLE.
UM, AND THAT'S A ONE TIME, CUZ IT'S, IT'S $3,400 ON HERE.
IS THAT A ONE TIME DEAL ONLY? THAT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, THERE ARE SOME FEES RELATED TO THAT TO, BUT I THINK JAMES IS DOING A GREAT JOB IN GETTING US CONNECTED WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FEES.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT, THAT I PUT THAT IN THERE.
UM, AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ACTUALLY USED IF WE DON'T USE IT.
WE JUST WILL NOT INCUR THOSE COSTS.
Y'ALL GOT MORE QUESTIONS?
ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES? YES SIR.
HAVE YOU REPLACED THAT EMPLOYEE YET? NO, SIR.
IN WORKING WITH HR, UH, I CAN'T REPLACE THAT EMPLOYEE TILL THE END OF AUGUST.
UH, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE JOB, THE REVISED JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THAT POSITION AND INTEND TO FILL THAT JUST AS SOON AS I CAN.
UM, IN END OF AUGUST, 1ST OF OCTOBER, IS THAT, UH, THE REPLACEMENT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO GRANT WRITING BECAUSE THAT PERSON THAT LEFT YES, SIR.
DID GRANT, OR IS THAT THE ONLY PERSON IN SPRING OR IN, UH, PARKER COUNTY THAT DOES GRANTS? NO, THERE, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE IN, IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DO GRANTS AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE EXPECTATIONS THAT I HAVE FOR THAT REPLACEMENT EMPLOYEE THAT THEY WILL HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE
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IN THAT AREA.WE WASN'T LOSING SOMEWHERE CURRENTLY THOSE GRANTS.
THOSE GRANTS, UM, I'M WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, UM, AND ANGIE'S HELPING US AS WELL WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE GRANTS TO GET US THROUGH TO THAT POINT WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT POSITION FILLED.
I'M JUST CLARIFYING YOU'RE, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? I, I, MY, MY BUDGET'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WAS THIS, THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN OTHER THAN THE VEHICLE AND ASKING FOR THE, THE, UH, STEP BUMP FOR THE ADMIN ASSISTANT.
I KNOW OVER THE YEARS THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT LINE HAS DECREASED.
IS WILL THIS BE THE LAST YEAR OF THOSE EXPENSES? THAT IS, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA LOSE THE 25,000 THAT WE'RE PAYING ESD ONE FOR THE NORTH PART OF PARKER COUNTY NORTH EAST PART.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, THAT THAT, UH, AREA WAS RECENTLY PICKED UP BY ESD ONE.
IT WAS, IT'S IT'S EAST OF RENO AND NORTH OF WHAT ESD WAS.
ONE WAS, UH, THEY HAVE PICKED THAT AREA UP.
UH, THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THE COURT, UM, CONTINUE THAT FOR ONE YEAR THROUGH THE 2024 BUDGET.
I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD PUT IT IN THE BUDGET AND THAT'S A DECISION FOR THE COURT TO MAKE AS TO WHETHER TO CONTINUE TO PAY THAT.
WHEN DID THEY ASK YOU THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
WHEN DID THEY ASK YOU TO FOR US TO CONTINUE PAYING IT? UM, RECENTLY? YES SIR.
WELL I'LL FIND OUT THAT THEY, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY TOLD ME, BUT RECENTLY YEAH, I, I HAD A DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT MONEY WOULD, WOULD NEED TO BE PAID.
AND THEY SAID THAT THE COURT TRADITIONALLY, WHEN THIS HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST, PAID ONE YEAR PAST.
WELL THAT'S ACCORDING TO THEM, RIGHT? YES SIR.
THAT'S ACCORDING TO THEM BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT EITHER, BUT THAT'S WHY TRADITIONALLY THAT'S WHY I WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED IT FOR THE, FOR THE COURT TO, TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
AND WE CAN LOOK CUZ THERE'S UNDERLYING AGREEMENTS WITH THAT, CORRECT? UM, NOT REALLY.
UM, IT WAS PAID FOR THEM TO, TO RESPOND INTO THAT AREA THAT THEY NOW HAVE TAKEN OVER.
I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PAY IT ANOTHER YEAR, BUT UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING, NOTHING.
THE DISCUSSION, I HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND THEY, THEY SAID STOP THE PAYMENT, BUT OKAY.
I SPOKE WITH, WITH, UM, THE CHIEF OF THE, OF, OF THE DEPARTMENT AND YEAH.
CAN YOU CHECK ON THAT COMMISSIONER? OH YEAH, SURE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE JUDGE PROMISED TO GIVE ME THAT 23,000.
DID HE
[I.G. Discussion/Presentation on Department 401 Commissioners Court budget requests. (Judge Deen) ]
GOOD ITEM G ON DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 0 1, ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET REQUEST.I WILL BE PRESENTING COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET REQUEST.
AND, UM, THE FIRST ONE, UM, THERE WILL BE SOME INCREASES IN CONTRACT SERVICES AND DO SOME SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED, UH, NUMBERS YET, BUT BRIANNA WILL HAVE THAT LATER ON.
OR DO YOU AND NACO, WASN'T NACO GONNA INCREASE? YES, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT THERE MAY BE A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING TOO SIGNIFICANT, BUT, UM, THE NACO DUES ARE PAID FROM 4 0 1, SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
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AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO, UM, ALSO CONFIRM OUR AUDIT FEES, WHICH IS ALSO PAID FROM 4 0 1.AND SO USUALLY I HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM.
SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE PROVIDED TO COURT, UH, AS SOON AS WE HAVE FINAL NUMBERS.
UM, THERE WILL BE A IT NON-CAPITAL REQUEST.
UM, THIS IS AN CONFERENCING EQUIPMENT TO BE ADDED TO THE EXECUTIVE, UM, SESSION, UH, CONFERENCE ROOM.
BASICALLY IT IS, UH, WHEN THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO SEE IT ON A BIGGER SCREEN.
UM, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN IF IT'S NEEDED, IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND SO THIS CONFERENCING EQUIPMENT WILL BE PROVIDED AND EQUIPPED, UM, IN THAT ROOM AS WELL AS A TV SCREEN CONFERENCING EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND IT WAS NOT ADDED ON HERE, BUT UM, IT HAS IT ON THEIR, UM, BUDGET, THE UPGRADING OF THE, UH, GRANTAS AND TWO NEW MONITORS, UM, BIGGER MONITORS FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS WELL THAT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE.
IT'S UNDER ALL THE UPDATES AND UPGRADES THAT ARE HAPPENING FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THERE IS A NEW EMPLOYEE, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE REQUEST.
THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I WILL PULL UP THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
UM, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR $130,000 PLUS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES, UM, UNDER BENEFITS THAT'S INCLUDED AS WELL AS THE A NON-CAPITAL ITEMS REQUESTED FOR THAT EMPLOYEE, WHICH WILL BE A DESK, A CHAIR, A COMPUTER, AND A LAPTOP.
AND IF THAT IS APPROVED, WE ALSO NEED TO ADD A MIFI, UM, FOR THAT POSITION AS WELL.
AND SO HERE IS THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND, UM, I WILL ALLOW, UM, JUDGE, DEAN TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION ON THIS.
YEAH, I THINK BEFORE WE GO GET TOO DEEP IN THIS IS AGAIN, THIS IS A, IT WAS, IT WAS REQUESTED LAST YEAR AND I THINK THERE'S, AND I PROBABLY DID A VERY POOR JOB IN, IN TRYING TO ARTICULATE OR OR TO UNDERSTAND OR, OR TO PRESENT WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT THE SCOPE OF THIS POSITION IS? AND IT'S, UM, IT SINCE THAT TIME MET WITH SEVERAL COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS IN, IN, IT'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT HAVE 'EM AND DON'T HAVE 'EM.
UH, IT'S LIKE, IT'S MUCH LIKE WHAT A CITY IS WITH A, A CITY MANAGER FUNCTION THAT, UH, THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
IT DOES NOT REPORT TO THE COUNTY JUDGE.
IT REPORTS TO, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE BUDGET UNDER THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, IN FACT MUCH MORE THAN EVEN TO THE COUNTY JUDGE.
IT'S A ROLE THAT, UH, IS, IS IS CRITICALLY NEEDED.
IT IS NOT A FUNCTION THAT, UH, AT ALL OF WHAT I DO.
MY, MY ROLE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, WOULD DO.
AND IN COUNTIES THAT IS GROWING AND AS RAPIDLY AND AS QUICKLY AS WHAT PARKER COUNTY IS, THAT IS, THAT IS A ROLE THAT IS CRITICAL IN IN, IN ESPECIALLY WITH, AND THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE LEARNED IS WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT THE, THE, THE, THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF, OF, OF COLLABORATION WITH DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE, UH, EAST ANNEX I THINK PROBABLY PROVED THAT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF DISCUSSION WAS ON LIKE WITH PURCHASING, WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA OVERSEE IT OR THAT WASN'T THEIR ROLE.
AND, AND, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINIS, THE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR PULLS TOGETHER THE RESOURCES AND, AND, AND ALLOWS THESE DEPARTMENTS RESPECTIVELY TO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE TOGETHER.
BUT SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SUPPORT AND WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH YOU.
UH, I'VE MET WITH, UM, GK MANUS IN UP TARRANT COUNTY, UH, WHO ACTUALLY HAS BEEN, UM, FOR 35 YEARS, BEEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THERE AND THE GROWTH IS COMING IN HERE.
I THINK HE WAS A BIT TAKEN THAT WE HAVE NOT MOVED THAT DIRECTION YET.
BUT, UH, IT'S A ROLE THAT PROVIDES SUPPORT TO EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT.
IT DOES NOT GO INTO A DEPARTMENT THAT REPLACES FUNCTIONALITY OR REPLACES ANY OF THE ROLES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OR DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT GETS PEOPLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND GETS AND, AND WORKS WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN PROVIDING SUPPORT.
UH, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT
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THIS FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE.OUR POPULATION AND I, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR THAT DENTON COUNTY, UM, DID NOT HAVE ONE AND THEY HIT THE 500,000 PLUS MARK AND THEN THEY FINALLY GOT ONE.
WELL, ANDY EIDS, UH, HAS AN MPA AND PROBABLY FILLED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FUNCTION AS A COUNTY JUDGE, AND I KNOW ANDY AND I'VE TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT THAT.
AND THEY CHOSE TO HOLD OFF ON THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FUNCTION HE WAS ABLE TO DO HIMSELF, HE DOES NOT HAVE JUDICIAL RESPONSIBILITIES AS I DO, WHICH SAVES US MONEY BY NOT HAVING A STATUTORY JUDGE.
BUT THIS IS A ROLE REALLY, IT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE IN GETTING US TO WORK TOGETHER BETTER.
AND IT WILL CLEARLY BY FAR OFFSET WHAT THE CAUSE OF THE COUNTY IS GONNA BE, JUST THROUGH EXECUTION AND THROUGH COLLABORATION BEING BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
UH, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS RESPECTIVELY AND DOING THINGS THAT'S, THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF MY OFFICE AND, AND PROVIDING SUPPORT TO EACH OF THE, THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
BUT IT IS NOT, AND WOULD NOT EVEN BE PROBABLY IN THIS BUILDING AT ALL BECAUSE IN TALKING GK THAT, UH, THE INTERACTION AND COLLABORATION IS MUCH MORE WITH THE COUNTY, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAN IT EVEN IS WITH, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE.
SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S A MISPERCEPTION THERE, BUT IT DOES NOT FILL THE ROLE THAT I DO, BUT PROVIDES A MUCH MORE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER POSITION THAT WORKS WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THIS AS WELL AND YEAH, I, UH, I MENTIONED THIS IN MY CAMPAIGN THAT I THOUGHT THAT THE COUNTY NEEDED SOME TYPE OF POSITION TO SOME, SOME ASSISTANCE IN A FEW AREAS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, ONE AREA AT SOME POINT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A COUNTY ROAD ENGINEER, UM, WITH AS MUCH GROWTH AS WE HAVE.
AND PERHAPS THIS IS MY PRIVATE EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, COLORING MY PERCEPTION OF THIS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT PERSONALLY IS WE'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND A 70 TO $80 MILLION BUSINESS, AND IN MY OPINION, WE NEED A COO THAT CAN HELP US RUN THIS BUSINESS TO THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYERS.
NOW THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT THAT BREAKS DOWN AND IT'S NOT A PERFECT ANALOGY.
AND, AND WE COULD SIT HERE AND PICK THAT APART ALL DAY, BUT LONG STORY SHORT, WE NEED TO BE AS AGILE AS POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS WHERE JUDGE DEAN IS SPENDING HIS TIME ON, ON PROBATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT DOES SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.
BUT I THINK JUDGE DEAN WILL TELL YOU, HE'S, HE'S NOT THE, HE'S NOT THE, THE PERSON WITH THE MPA BACKGROUND.
HE'S NOT GOT THAT SKILLSET THAT HE CAN RELY ON LIKE THE DENTON COUNTY JUDGE DID.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO STRONGLY LOOK AT.
YES, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE, BUT EVERYTHING WE DO IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
AND I THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THE EXPENSE IS JUSTIFIED BY THE VALUE IT ADDS TO THE CITIZENS.
LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING TO THIS BEFORE WE JUST OPEN THIS UP.
IS, UH, WE WERE ELECT WELL I WAS ELECTED AS, AS ALL OF US WERE THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT PAID TO DRIVE THE BUS, WE'RE PAID TO TELL THE BUS WHERE TO GO.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ELECTED TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ON WHERE THE COUNTY IS GOING AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH OF WHAT'S GOING, WE'RE BEING VERY PROACTIVE ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BOND.
UH, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE WATER CONCERNS, WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ELECTED TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I AM NOT BY, UH, EVEN WITH THE, THE EDUCATION I HAVE, I'M, I'M NOT TRAINED TO RUN A COUNTY.
I THINK WE'RE ELECTED TO PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP TO, TO, TO DELEGATE THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES TO SOMEONE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DRIVE THAT BUS WHERE WE ASK THAT BUS DRIVER TO WHERE ASK THAT PERSON TO, TO, TO GO AND, AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE GOING AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, BUT FOR EVERYTHING TO BE HUBBED INTO THE COUNTY JUDGES, UH, COURT, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING ON THE JUDICIAL SIDE, WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL BE MOVING TOWARDS A STATUTORY JUDGE AND THAT WILL COST US MONEY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
SO THAT'S A ROLE THAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT IS HUBBED INTO MY OFFICE.
BUT IN, BUT THE KEY OF THIS IS, IS TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A 10,000 FOOT DOWN, LOOKING AT A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD PROVIDE THAT ALLOW US TO WORK TOGETHER, GET THINGS DONE, BE MORE EFFICIENT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT DO THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TRAINED AND HIRE TO DO.
AND WHAT THEIR EDUCATION BACKGROUND IS, IS TO BA BASICALLY BE A CEO OF A COMPANY.
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DESCRIPTIONS IS COORDINATION OF ALL COUNTY ACTIVITIES, PROVIDING MANAGEMENT EXPERTISE TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND MATTERS RELATING TO ADMINISTRATION, BUDGET MANAGEMENT AND DATA AUTOMATION.BASICALLY WHAT IT'S DOING IS BRINGING A CORPORATE BASED CULTURE TO A, TO A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WHERE THERE'S MORE ACCOUNTABILITY, MORE TRANSPARENCY, MORE EFFICIENCIES IN THE WAY IT'S RUN.
JUST LIKE WHAT A CORPORATION WOULD BE, WHICH THERE'S SOME INEFFICIENCIES HERE.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD FILL, AND WHILE I WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET, IT WOULD CLEARLY OFFSET THROUGH EFFICIENCIES OF WHAT THIS DISPOSITION WOULD DO BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WORKING FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GLOBAL RESPECT OR YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT GLOBAL WORD THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A, FROM A TOP DOWN STANDPOINT OF WHAT THIS REPRESENTS.
IT IS NOT SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE IN MY OFFICE.
IT WOULD NOT BE SOMEBODY THAT WORKS WITH ME ON DOING WHAT MY JOB IS, BUT IT WOULD BE WORKING WITH YOU COMMISSIONER HA AND THE OTHERS COMMISSIONER WALDEN IN HELPING YOU DO YOUR JOB AS COMMISSIONERS AND WORKING TOGETHER NOT ONLY WITH YOU, BUT WORKING TOGETHER, WORKING WITH, WHETHER IT'S AUDITING OR WHETHER IT'S IT, IT'S WHATEVER DEPARTMENT PURCHASING, BUT MAKING SURE, AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO HAVE WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THE ANNEX AND ALL THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING THAT WEREN'T GETTING DONE.
AND WE ALL LOOKED AT KIM AND SAID, WELL, THIS ISN'T GETTING DONE.
AND SO I, I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY THAT, THAT CAN TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND BE ABLE TO MANAGE CERTAIN THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MANAGED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE AT THE TIME.
AND SO WHEN I SAY YOU 10,000 FOOT DOWN OR GLOBAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT BOARD COMMISSIONER ON HOW WE CAN BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND WORK TOGETHER BETTER, COLLABORATE TOGETHER, BETTER, WORK TOGETHER BETTER.
WHAT THAT MEANS AND THAT PRICE THAT THE SALARY FOR THIS PERSON.
HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT? UH, A HUNDRED JUST RESEARCHING, RESEARCHING WHAT THEY MADE.
TAKE THAT BACK DOWN THE, WELL, LIKE THE RIGHT THERE.
UH, IT SAYS ONE 20, BUT SO WE GET STARTED AT ONE 20, WE CAN TOP IT AT ONE 30.
WELL, LIKE THE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN TARRANT COUNTY'S BEEN THERE 35 YEARS.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GONNA FIT HERE, BUT, UH, SOMEBODY CAN MAKE COUNTY GET STARTED.
I MEAN, THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED OR LIKE US.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER LIKE FOR HOOD COUNTY OR WISE COUNTY OR DO THEY HAVE A WISE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE ONE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE.
BUT JOHNSON COUNTY, IS THERE A COUNTY THAT HAS 150, 200,000 THAT HAS THIS ADMINISTRATOR OR THERE, THERE AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE THAT DO A LOT, DON'T A LOT OF THE LARGER COUNTIES DO.
BUT WITH THE THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS, IS THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING BECAUSE AS WE SPEAK, WE'RE PROBABLY APPROACHING ONE 60 NOW WITH ABOUT 20, 25 PEOPLE A DAY MOVING HERE.
UM, BUT IT'S GONNA GO EXPONENTIALLY.
AND THE FACT IS, IS THAT WE'RE NUMBER NINE IN THE NATION GROWTH.
I FIGURE WE'RE CLOSER TO 200,000 THAN, WELL, BY THE TIME YOU BLINK AN EYE, YOU'RE GONNA BE, AND MY POINT IS THIS, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA GROW AT A RATE THAT IF WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING TOGETHER FROM A STANDPOINT OF MANAGING THAT GROWTH, WHAT GK TOLD ME WAS, YOU, YOU CAN'T FATHOM WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO PARKER COUNTY.
AND LET'S GET AHEAD OF THAT CURVE, GET THE LEADERSHIP IN PLACE TO MANAGE THAT GROWTH.
HERE WE'RE DOING PROACTIVELY WITH ALL THE TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WE'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE WATER CONCERNS THAT'S OUT OUT WEST OF US AND WE'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WHAT IS IT? THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IN, IN INTERNALLY, CAN WE OPERATE BETTER AND MORE FUNCTIONALLY BETTER AND WORKING TOGETHER BETTER? WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT THAT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ONE MORE, ONE MORE TOPIC.
IT'S IS IT, IT'S A CHANGE IN CULTURE AND IT'S, IT'S A, BECAUSE GOVERNMENT, WE, WE ARE ALL, AND, AND I'VE BEEN APPROACHED INTERESTINGLY, UM, BY A, A MAYOR THAT IT IS THE WRONG THING TO DO TO ADOPT A, AND I'M MAKING A POINT HERE, I'M, I'M KIND OF GOING AROUND, IS THE WRONG THING TO DO TO ADOPT A NON REVENUE, NO NEW REVENUE RATE BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH WE'RE HAVING.
HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN YET WITH THAT VALUE ON THE GROUND? I UNDERSTAND 1.6 BILLION HAS BEEN PUT ON THE GROUND AND YOU VALUE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER FROM THE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT YET.
SO HOW CAN WE DETERMINE THAT? SO WE SET THIS CONSERVATIVELY,
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WE HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING CONSERVATIVE.WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH THE GROWTH, IT, WE'RE NOT, WE HAVE TO BE POSITIONED WITH LEADERSHIP AND PREPARING OURSELF FOR WHAT'S COMING OR WE'RE GONNA BE OVERWHELMED WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S AHEAD OF US.
AND SO MANAGING MANAGED GROWTH, CHANGING THE CULTURE OF THIS COUNTY TO MORE OF A PERFORMANCE BASED INITIATIVE IS CRITICAL TO DEALING WITH A GROWTH THAT'S COMING AND MAKING DECISIONS.
WHILE IT DOES COST MONEY, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THIS AND, AND IT, IT SHOWED YESTERDAY WITH, WITH HOW EFFICIENT WE ARE IN OUR SO'S OFFICE, BUT ALSO WE'RE REALLY CLOSER TO 15% AND THAT NUMBER WILL GROW A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF, OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING, BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY THAT'S COMING, WE'RE HAVING TO ADD TO THE SO'S OFFICE AND THE SALARIES AND EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE WANTING TO INCREASE SALARIES.
AND SO THERE'S A COST OF OF DOING BUSINESS.
THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE FROM MY STANDPOINT TO CHANGE THIS COUNTY TO A MORE PERFORMANCE BASED INITIATIVE AND CULTURE.
BUT WE HAVE TO CHANGE WHO WE ARE TO DEAL WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING.
IF THE, UM, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS, UH, APPROVED, UH, WE ARE, UH, WORKING ON ADDING A $500 INCREASE ON SUPPLIES.
UM, USUALLY MY EXPENDITURES ON PREPPING FOR BUDGET, USUALLY IT RUNS BETWEEN 400 TO $800 ON BINDERS, DIVIDERS AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND SO I CURRENTLY, COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS A SUPPLY BUDGET OF 500.
SO I JUST WENT AHEAD AND DID ANOTHER 500 INCREASE TO TOTAL IT FOR A THOUSAND TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES DURING BUDGET FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARE AND IT'S, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT ADDING A FTE, WE OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT WHAT, DO THEY NEED A CARD? DO THEY NEED A COMPUTER, DO THEY NEED A DESK OR WHATEVER.
I I, I WOULD RATHER HOLD THOSE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE HAVE A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING AND DISCUSSION ON, CUZ THIS IS, THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT POSITION AGAIN, WITH WITH, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME DISCUSSION.
I WOULD RATHER HOLD OFF ON WHAT THOSE EXPENSES ARE GONNA BE UNTIL WE, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION THOROUGH DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE, THE INTENT IS HERE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND REALLY TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR OF UNDERSTANDING THAT POSITION.
IF WE, IF WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS, THEN WE CAN GO AND THEN DISCUSS THOSE THINGS.
BUT I THINK DISCUSS THOSE RIGHT NOW IS GONNA BE PREMATURE AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY PUTTING THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE.
I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
THIS IS ADDING A POSITION, IT'S PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, I'D RATHER JUST WAIT AND, AND NOT DEAL WITH THAT JUST YET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A, THERE'S A MOVING TARGET ON WHAT THE SALARY WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING GET ANYBODY FOR 75 OR $80,000 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE GOING MARKET IS FOR A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS, UH, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL THAT HAVE ADMINISTRATORS RANGING FROM UP TO 300,000 WITH GK MANUS AND TARRANT COUNTY, UH, TO SOME OTHERS THAT NOW, UM, PROBABLY IN 120 TO 150 RANGE ON AVERAGE, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN SURVEY THESE COUNTIES AND FIND OUT WHO HAS THEM AND WHO DOESN'T.
LET'S WORRY ABOUT PARKER COUNTY AND LET'S WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE NEEDS OF PARKER COUNTY IS AND IF THERE'S A NEED HERE FOR THAT, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BECAUSE THEY MAY BE MAKING A, A MISTAKE OR, OR A BAD DECISION AND NOT HAVING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER OVERLY CONSERVATIVE OR THEY DON'T WANNA LOSE.
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, THIS IS A RELINQUISH, A RELINQUISHED CONTROL WHERE YOU HAVE TO DEFER SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES OFF TO SOMEBODY THAT THAT'S GONNA DO THAT.
AND YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EGO HERE.
WE CAN'T HAVE POWER TRIPS OR, BUT TO BE ABLE TO RELINQUISH CONTROL AND ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COME IN HERE AND, AND GET US TO WORK TOGETHER BETTER AND PREPARE FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING AND MAKING GOOD DECISIONS AND WORKING WITH THESE COMMISSIONERS.
AND I ASKED WHEN, WHEN WENT WENT TO GKS OFFICE, IT WAS ON A DIFFERENT FLOOR THAN THE COUNTY JUDGE AND ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY AREN'T YOU DOWN WITH THE NEW COUNTY JUDGE? UH, AND HE SAID, THERE'S NO WAY ON EARTH I'M GONNA BE ON THAT FLOOR.
HE SAID, PERCEPTION OF THAT WOULD BE ME WORKING WITH HIM, UH, IS NOT, NOT CORRECT.
HE SAID, I WORK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS MAINLY AND THE COUNTY JUDGE AND I DO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND UPDATES, BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE ON THE, BECAUSE OF THE PERCEPTION OF THIS
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IS EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER WALL DID MENTIONED LAST YEAR.WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO, WHY WOULD WE HIRE ANYBODY THAT DOES WHAT THE COUNTY JUDGE DOES? WELL, IT'S ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY, IT'S JUST AN UNDERSTANDING AND EDUCATION ABOUT REALLY WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.
AND SO THE PERCEPTION OF THIS IS, IS WHAT GK SAID WAS, I DON'T WORK FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE.
I WORK FOR THE COURT AND I SPEND THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME WITH THE COURT.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ON THAT FLOOR AND, AND, AND GIVEN THE APPEARANCE THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE, SO WELL YOU NEED TO EDUCATE US ON HOW HE'S GONNA HELP US.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE ALSO HELPFUL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PURCHASING AGENT AS WELL AS THE TREASURER.
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN HERE WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE IT BLURS OR KIND OF CROSSES PATH WITH WHAT MY STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES AS THE AUDITOR, WHAT MY OFFICE DOES, AS WELL AS WHAT THEIR OFFICES DO.
AND THERE'S EVEN A PART IN THERE WHERE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, PREPARE, SOLICIT SOMETHING ABOUT CONTRACTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY GOES INTO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
SO I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO REALLY DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND HOW THAT DOESN'T TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING.
WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT, THAT HE DOES NOT ENCROACH INTO WHAT YOUR ROLE IS OR, OR WHOEVER'S RESPECTIVE ROLE IS, BUT TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
AND THE DISCUSSION WAS, THIS IS YOUR DOMAIN.
I HAVE MY DOMAIN, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
HOW CAN WE TOGETHER COLLABORATE TOGETHER AND THINK THAT'S WHAT IS UNDERSTANDING THAT.
BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THIS AT CERTAIN THINGS THAT THERE'S SOME BASIS OUR OFFICES DO, SO THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEN IT BECOMES UNCLEAR, WELL WHAT IS THEIR ROLE IN WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS? WHAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY VERSUS WHAT YOU RIGHT THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IF THIS IS TAKEN FURTHER, YOU KNOW WHAT, ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND NOT HAVING, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, A MISUNDERSTANDING OF SOMEONE THINKING, NO, THIS IS MY DOMAIN WHERE WE FEEL THAT IT, OH NO, ABSOLUTELY.
HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, THE PARK FOR COUNTY, UM, JOB DESCRIPTION, THIS IS TARRANT COUNTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, UH, THERE'S SOME SIMILARITIES BUT A, A, A VERY WIDE DIFFERENCE OF, OF SOME RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND, AND, AND ESTABLISH THIS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR ROLE AND THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING IN AND TAKING OVER YOUR JOB OR DOING THAT OR ENCROACHING IN WHAT YOU DO, BUT FACILITATING, ASSISTING, WORKING TOGETHER AND COLLABORATING TOGETHER AND MAKING THIS MORE OF A SMOOTHER FUNCTIONING COURT OR SMOOTHER IN COUNTY.
SO AGAIN, JACOB, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, I JUST, I SEE THIS AS, UM, A POSITION THAT CAN ACT AS GLUE, SO TO SPEAK, BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONERS, BETWEEN PURCHASING, BETWEEN AUDITING.
IT'S A SUPPORT POSITION IS HOW I WOULD ENVISION IT.
UM, CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY THAT'S STEPPING INTO YOUR LANE BECAUSE THEN THAT GETS POTENTIALLY YOU IN TROUBLE AND IT PUTS YOU AT RISK.
SAME THING WITH PURCHASING, SAME THING WITH, UH, HR AND TREASURER AND WHAT, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OR DELETE OR CLARIFY IT AT A MINIMUM.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO GET, AFTER WE ESTABLISH WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO GO DOWN THIS DIRECTION, A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE TOTAL COSTS INVOLVED.
LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CYNTHIA.
UM, SO YEAH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I SEE IT IS, IS A POSITION THAT CAN ACT AS AN INTERMEDIARY OR A CONNECTOR OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
THAT HELPS US AS A COUNTY SINCE WE'RE GROWING SO FAST, SINCE WE'RE MOVING IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SINCE WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CITIES, WE HAVE ALL THESE ESDS, WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES, SOMEONE HERE AT THE COUNTY THAT CAN ACT AS THE GLUE THAT KIND OF HELPS US ALL STAY POINTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO SERVE OUR TAXPAYERS.
I JUST, I'M, I WANNA DRAG THIS OUT, BUT JUST YOU, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT GK BROUGHT UP IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY OR THE CITIES AROUND IS ALSO A FUNCTION OF WHAT HE DOES OR SHE DOES THAT WOULD, AGAIN, JUST TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER EFFECTIVELY.
CUZ I TRY TO GO TO DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEETINGS AS MUCH AS I CAN, BUT WHAT THEY DO IS WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGERS AND THE MAYORS AND, AND, AND THE, THE COUNCILS RESPECTIVELY THAT, UH, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER IN THE, IN THE TRANSPORTATION BOND IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
AND MAKING SURE, BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS WE PAY, UH, CHRIS BOSCO, UH, IN THEN, AND I'M ACCOMPANY HIM ON THOSE, UH, MEETINGS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS RESPECTIVE PERSON COULD BE DOING AS WELL IS ESTABLISHING AND CONTINUING TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITIES AND, AND HOW WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEM.
WE DO GET A HALF A PERCENT SALES TAX AND THAT AMOUNTS TO OVER 12 MILLION.
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I UNDERSTAND.UH, SO WE DO HAVE A ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO THESE CITIES TO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE TOGETHER.
AND THEN THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
SO WITH THOSE, THOSE JOB DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES LOOK LIKE QUITE A BIT FOR THIS ADMINISTRATOR POSITION.
WHAT TYPE OF A STAFF OR OR SUPPORT DO THEY HAVE IN THOSE ONES THAT Y'ALL HAVE LOOKED AT? OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE I IF IF ANYTHING, AN ONE EMPLOYEE? UM, THE, THE STAFF IS BASICALLY THE COUNTY THEY WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY ON, UH, WHETHER IT'S PURCHASING OR WHAT IS IT THAT THEY CAN HELP FACILITATE OR HELP WITH THAT FUNCTION OR, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, AS, AS COMMISSIONER HOLT SAID, IS THE GLUE THAT PULLS EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A LARGE STAFF.
AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A STANDALONE POSITION THAT WOULD COME IN AND HELP WORK WITH A FACILITATE.
BUT HIS STAFF IS BASICALLY, I MEAN YOU, YOUR STAFF AND WORKING WITH YOU AND HOW CAN YOU PULL THESE RESOURCES TOGETHER.
BUT THERE IS NOT A, A LARGE STAFF HERE AT ALL.
HE DOESN'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.
SORRY, A LITTLE BIT LONG WINDED ON THAT, BUT IT, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, TRYING TO INTRODUCE THIS, IT WAS DIDN'T, DIDN'T REALLY TRY TO DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB LAST YEAR ON THIS.
I'M TRYING TO COVER THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE.
CAN WE REACH A DECISION AND TAKE A BREAK RIGHT NOW?
MAYBE THINKING ABOUT, SORRY, LARRY.
UH, YES, UH, LET'S TAKE A RECESS AT 1130.
FOR YOU WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S DO THIS.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR LUNCH AT 1130 AND LET'S PROMPTLY TRY TO BE BACK BY ONE O'CLOCK SO WE CAN WRAP IT UP.
WE'RE GONNA RESUME OUR WORKSHOP, UH, THE RECORDS SHOW.
IT IS ONE O'CLOCK AND WE WILL MOVE
[I.H. Discussion/Presentation on Department 582 Information Technology budget requests. (James Caywood / Judge Deen) ]
TO ITEM H AND CONTINUE WITH THE, UH, AGENDA ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 5 82.INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BUDGET REQUEST.
HELLO COURT, UH, GO OVER THE IT BUDGET REQUESTING THIS YEAR.
UM, STARTING A COUPLE ITEMS. UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE WE'RE DOING IN IS IN THE, UH, NON CAP LINE INCLUDING ALL OF THE, UH, UH, TECHNOLOGY REQUESTS, DESKTOP LAPTOPS, STUFF LIKE THAT FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS.
SO WE KNOW THE COST AND I CAN USE THOSE NUMBERS TO KIND OF, UH, BEAT DOWN THE VENDOR ON PRICING AND GET MORE.
SO CURRENTLY IN THAT LIST, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE AT 85 DESKTOPS, 25 NON RUGGED, UH, AND 20 RUGGED LAPTOPS IN THAT ARENA, UH, AT THAT PRICE.
UH, AND THEN WE GOT SIX MORE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL, UH, THAT HAS A SPECIAL GPS LOCATION CARD IN IT CUZ THEY DON'T HAVE A CRADLE POINT.
THAT WAY DISPATCH CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, THEN UTILIZING THE AUTOMATIC CAD DISPATCHING, THEY SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, CAN DISPATCH 'EM WHO'S CLOSEST AND GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UH, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IS ALSO BEING, UH, PUT ON HERE JUST IN CASE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, THE NEW BUILDING ON SANTA FE, WE HAVE SOME NETWORK EQUIPMENT TO GO IN THERE, UH, TO GET THAT BUILDING ONLINE.
SO THESE ARE OUR SWITCHES WE NEED.
AND ALSO YOU'LL SEE SOME, UH, FORTIGATE EQUIPMENT ON THE CAP LINE FOR FORTIGATE.
SO THAT BUILDING WILL ACTUALLY BE AN ISOLATED, UH, DATA CENTER WE CAN USE, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT WE LOSE ANNEX OR E L C, WE CAN KEEP DISPATCH DEPUTIES UP AND FUNCTIONING AND MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY TOO AS FAR AS THAT.
UH, IF WE MOVE TO THE CAP LINE, BIGGEST THING, UH, THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY MY, JUST THIS MONTH, STARTING MY THIRD YEAR WITH THE COUNTY.
JUST CELEBRATED TWO YEARS, BEEN THAT LONG.
WELL, IT FEELS LIKE 20, BUT WE, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT DID YOU BRING CAKE? NO, NO, SORRY.
BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST YEAR HERE, WE, WE ACTUALLY REFRESHED THE ENTIRE NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE FROM A, YOU KNOW, A 10, 100, UH, CISCO TO A, A GIGABIT
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10 GIGABIT INTERCONNECTED, UH, NETWORK WHERE WE GOT REDUNDANCY BUILT IN FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.DEPUTIES, UH, THE BUILDINGS, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND THIS LAST YEAR WE, WE REALLY HIT, UH, THE DEPUTIES ALL GOT NEW RUGGED LAPTOPS.
SO WE WAS HITTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, HELPING DISPATCH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THIS YEAR WHAT NEED TO LOOK, LOOK AT IS OUR SERVER INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAD ONE ISSUE WITH THE FILE SERVER.
UH, AND SO YOU'LL SEE ON THAT OUR, OUR POWERED SERVERS, WE, WE DID REDUCE THAT BY ONE.
UH, I WAS ABLE TO UTILIZE MONEY TO BUY ONE OF THE BRAND NEW SERVERS THIS YEAR, KIND OF TIGHTEN IT UP.
UH, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT REFRESHING THE ENTIRE LOAD OF THE COUNTY SERVERS.
UH, WITH THE NEW HARDWARE REFRESH, WE CAN STAY CONCURRENT WITH THE SERVER 2002 THAT'S OUT, NEW UPDATES AND ALL THAT.
AND WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THESE OLDER SERVERS THAT ARE FAILING.
SO THAT'S A BIG, BIG LINE ITEM, UH, TO BUY THE THREE SERVERS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GETTING WITH THAT IS ALL NEW SERVERS AND WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING MORE TO VIRTUALIZATION.
SO ONE SERVER CAN RUN UP TO 10 15 SERVERS REALISTICALLY.
AND WITH THAT IS WE GOT LIVE REPLICATION AND ONE OF THE SERVERS IS ALMOST A 500 TERABYTE BACKUP SERVER.
SO WE CAN BACK UP MORE OF THE LAPTOP DESKTOPS IN THE EVENT OF, UH, HARDWARE FAILURES, FLOODS, NATURAL DISASTER.
WE HAVE MORE SPACE WHERE WE CAN RECOVER QUICKLY TO A POINT, UH, HELP EVERYONE OUT.
UH, OTHER BIG ITEM GOING IN WITH, UH, ASKING FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE, WORKING, TRYING TO SAVE MONEY, SAID, HEY, JUST WE NEED A TRUCK.
UH, WORKING WITH KIM, WE DID FIND A, UH, THE, THE THE LITTLE SMALL SUV FOR $23,000 THAT IS CONTINGENT.
UH, RIGHT NOW IN THE IT DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 300 HELP DESK TICKETS A MONTH IS WHAT WE GET.
THAT'S NOT DRIVE BY PEOPLE, HEY, HELP THIS.
LOOK THIS, WE GET ABOUT 300 TICKETS PUT IN.
UH, WE'RE CLOSING ABOUT 80, 90% OF THAT.
UH, I THINK THE AVERAGE TIME TO CLOSE A TICKET IS ABOUT A DAY AND A HALF.
UH, NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE, BUT WE HAVE SOME THAT WERE WAITING ON THIS AND WE DON'T GO BACK TO CLOSE IT TILL MAYBE THE NEXT DAY.
SO START MY THIRD YEAR WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
I'M HOPING PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED THAT THE IT PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, WE TRY TO GET TO Y'ALL.
I I TRY NOT TO STAY AWAY FROM THE PHONE, EMAIL, HEY, WHAT IS YOUR ISSUE? LET'S SEE IT, LET'S RESOLVE IT AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'M HOPING EVERY DEPARTMENT, HEAD PRECINCT, BARNES, UH, YOU SHOULD SEE THE IT PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT HELPING EVERY DAY.
I CAN, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED IT.
AND WHAT'S IT DEPARTMENT, WHAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS YEAR? UH, AND I, I AM ASKING FOR, UH, TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS IN THE IT, UH, RIGHT NOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ARE NOW? RIGHT NOW WE'RE FULLY STAFFED WITH FIVE PEOPLE.
I HAVE ONE PART-TIME SIX AND I HAVE AN INTERN, WHICH IS SEVEN.
AND YOU WANT TWO MORE? I WANT TWO MORE FULL-TIME POSITIONS TO FILL THIS, TO GET OUT AND HELP REDUCE THESE TICKET TIMES THE BEST WE CAN.
NOW I AM ASKING TO INCREASE MY PART TIMELINE BECAUSE I WANT A CONTINUATION WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, INTERNSHIPS WITH WEATHERFORD COLLEGE.
WE HAVE ONE THE SUMMER, I'M GONNA PROBABLY DO TWO FALL AND SPRING AND KIND OF USE IT AS A RECRUITING TOOL.
THAT FIVE NUMBER, DOES THAT INCLUDE YOU OR JUST FIVE THAT INCLUDES ME.
IT, IT'S FIVE FULL-TIME PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE FIELD AND I HAVE ONE PART-TIME AND ONE, UH, INTERN CURRENTLY FROM WEATHERFORD COLLEGE.
WHEN YOU SAY YOU TAKES 1.5 DAYS TO CLOSE A TICKET AND YOU WANT TWO MORE FULL-TIMERS, SO THE 1.5 YOU WANT TO TRY TO CLOSE THAT NUMBER, I WOULD LOVE TO CLOSE THAT.
NOW, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH US GOING BACK AND NOT CLOSING THE TICKETS.
AS SOON AS WE'RE CLOSING FINISH ONE, WE'RE OUT TO THE NEXT TASK GOING.
UH, BUT MY GOAL IS AS WE'RE GROWING, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THE PRECINCT BARNES FILL, I, I'M BEHIND ON A COUPLE PROJECTS WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, YOU KNOW, TREAT AS LIKE STEPCHILD.
WELL, NO, NO, IT'S NOT THE GO AND I DON'T WANNA USE THAT EXCUSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONBOARDING GOOD PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NEW TECHNOLOGY ALARM SYSTEMS FOR THE PRECINCT BARNS THAT WE HELP MONITOR.
WE WORK, UH, IN PARALLEL WITH DISPATCH, UH, OUR NEW CAMERA SYSTEM, UH, COUNTYWIDE THAT THAT'S COMING ONLINE.
WE NEED A LOT OF HELP WITH THAT.
UH, SO IT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE IN THAT POSITION, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA ASK IT HERE TO, UH, PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT I THINK EVERYONE'S GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO AND KEEP THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE GOING.
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THAT ENTAILS THE VEHICLE ONLY.SO THAT'S KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND WHEN WE'RE CONTRACT SERVICES AND, AND UNLESS YOU, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ON THE CONTRACT SERVICES? CONTRACT SERVICES? YEAH, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
SO CONTRACT SERVICES RIGHT NOW, UH, AND THAT'S JUMPED A LITTLE BIT BUT WE, WHAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TRYING TO MOVE AREAS WHERE THEY'VE HAD THEIR OWN CONTRACT SERVICES FOR TYLER PRODUCTS, DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WE'VE MOVED THAT AND THE CONTRACT SERVICES UNDER IT AND OUT OF UH, THE AREAS, UH, LILA AND BRIANNA CAN HELP WITH THAT LITTLE, THAT HAS GROWN A LITTLE BIT DUE TO THAT.
UH, WE'VE ALSO INCREASED A LITTLE BIT OF OUR SECURITY.
ONE OF THE ADDITIONS I'M ADDING IS A XDR MODULE, UH, FOR OUR SECURITY WHERE IT KIND OF, UH, LOOKS AT ALL OF OUR NETWORK TRAFFIC, ANALYZES IT AND HELPS ME GET TO POINT CL CLOSER.
SO LAST YEAR WE DID THE UH, MAIL SECURITY, WHICH WE JUST IMPLEMENTED LAST MONTH AND IT'LL ACTUALLY PULL THOSE, THAT INFORMATION IN ALL OF OUR COMPUTER TELEMETRY AND KIND OF ANALYZE THAT FOR ME AND GET US TO AREAS CLOSER, UH, QUICKER.
IF YOU'D LIKE ON THAT CONTRACT SERVICES, UM, I THINK LAST YEAR WE STARTED, BECAUSE I USED TO GET BILLED FOR ALL MY ODYSSEY PRODUCTS AND I THINK TYLER EAGLE WAS LIKE $78,000.
UM, THEN TYLER ODYSSEY WAS EVEN MORE AND WE TOOK IT FROM MY BUDGET AND PUT IT IN JAMES'S BUDGET.
I'M TRYING TO GO DOWN THIS LIST.
UM, ANOTHER THING WE'VE ADDED, WE WILL BE REMOVING, UH, THE UH, COURT SYSTEM HERE.
WE'RE GOING MORE TO THE CIVIC PLUS SAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
UH, BUT WE KEEP ADDING A LOT OF CONTRACTS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITHIN IT CONTRACT SERVICES AND PLUS TYLER KEEPS GOING UP, UH, EVERY YEAR ON TOP OF THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THAT I WORK PROGRAM WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR, FOR JAKE FOR TWO AND FOUR.
I MEAN WE CAN UH, IF WE NEED TO.
I MEAN WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE DON'T THESE OTHER TWO, SO I DON'T KNOW ON THAT.
SO WE WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING THEM TO SIGN OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
AND SO JOHN HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEIR LEGAL PERSON AND UM, THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE ASSIGNED FOR THE OTHER TWO THAT ALREADY HAVE IT AREN'T REALLY UM, IN IN COMPLIANCE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO AWAY WITH THAT ARE THEY? OR I I TAKING AWAY FROM US? I DON'T, DON'T THINK THEY CAN'T BELIEVE SO CUZ THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDING YOU THE SERVICE.
UM, THEY, WE, THEY CAN'T HOLD US TO ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T HOLD THEM TO ANYTHING ON THOSE AGREEMENTS.
BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE OTHER TWO PRECINCTS MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SAYING, I MEAN THAT WAS THE LEGAL COMPONENT, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE, YOU WERE MENTIONING CONTRACT SERVICES AND THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THAT MIGHT FALL INTO THAT.
WE DID TRY TO REACH OUT TO HAVE THAT QUOTED, BUT YES SIR.
THEY WERE PRETTY ADAMANT NOT YEAH, THEY WANNA LISTEN THAT TO ANYBODY, MAKE US APPROPRIATE PHONES FOR THREE YEARS AND NOT GIVE US A NON APPROPRIATION CLAUSE THERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
WHERE WE LEFT IT LAST SPEAKING WITH IWORK WAS THEY WERE TAKING OUT THE NON APPROPRIATIONS CLAUSE BUT THEY HAD A NON-COMPETE CLAUSE IN THERE WHERE WE CAN'T GO TO A COMPETITOR WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AS WELL.
AND SO I THINK FIRST IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATIONS, NOW IT'S NON-COMPETE AND I HAVEN'T HEARD AN UPDATE SINCE THEN.
UH, ALSO UNDER CONTRACT SERVICES, YOU KNOW, UNDER THERE IS OUR ADOBE PRO LICENSES WHERE WE, WE USUALLY BUMP THAT UP FIVE, 10 A YEAR TO ACCOUNT FOR NEW EMPLOYEES COMING ON THAT WAY ALL THE ADOBE PRO LICENSES ARE TAKEN OUT.
ONE TIME PAYMENT INSTEAD OF EACH DEPARTMENT HAVING TO UH, RENEW BY ONE.
UH, OUR EMAIL, WE HAVE TO BUMP THAT UP 20, 25 A YEAR TO ACCOUNT FOR NEW EMPLOYEES COMING ON BOARD.
UH, LET ME SEE, WHAT ELSE? STUFF LIKE THAT.
DO YOU STILL HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT STAYS AT THE UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE? WE DO NOT, NOT FULL TIME.
WE'RE GONNA TO AT ONE POINT, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE TO BEGIN WITH.
I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA GO THERE AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
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UM, BUT IT DID NOT WORK OUT.LIKE ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE TO ALLOCATE TO YOU AS YEAH, BASICALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAKING A LITTLE ROOM THERE WITH THE FLETCHER ACTUALLY FOR ME AT ONE POINT.
WE DO GO OVER THERE QUITE OFTEN.
UH, ME AND ABRAHAM BASICALLY ONE TWENTY FOUR HOUR SUPPORT TICKETS, PHONE CALLS, STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THEM IN THE JAIL.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME? UH, QUESTIONS OR? NO, JUST CAN ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH KIND OF JUST CUZ IT IS SUCH A LARGE WELL TYLER 615,000 TOTAL.
SO TYLER, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT RUNS ALL OF OUR COURT SYSTEMS. SO IT, IT'S UH, THE JAIL, THE JPS, DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY COURT PROBATE, UH, THAT'S THE SYSTEM THAT WE, THE WHOLE COUNTY USES TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
UM, WE'RE PAPERLESS SO EVERYTHING IS TASKED BACK AND FORTH ELECTRONICALLY AND IT, AND IT COVERS EVERY COURT IN THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODULES LIKE THE EAGLE.
UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, UH, SERENA USES THE JURY MODULE.
UM, WHEN I TALK ABOUT EAGLE, THAT'S ALL OF OUR LAND RECORDS.
UM, I THINK THAT'S, WHAT ABOUT ABOUT IT ODYSSEY? ODYSSEY IS IS THE COURT ODYSSEY, THE HOSTING FEE, WHICH IS A DECENT CHUNK, THE SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE OH ABSOLUTELY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING CUZ IT'S 615,000 BUCKS.
SO DO WE BID AGAINST THAT FREQUENTLY OR IS THAT THE BEST OF THE BEST OR KINDA WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT? UM, WE WENT OUT SERVICES IN 13, UM, TO REPLACE, UM, CAN I HAVE A MONOPOLY AND THERE'S JUST ABOUT NOT ANOTHER COMPANY OUT THERE THAT CAN DO IT ON, ON A LARGE SCALE.
THEY, THEY SEEM TO BUY UP A LOT OF THE, THEY DO THINGS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AND IF YOU CAN'T COMPETES WITH THEM COMPETITOR BY THEY'RE THE MICROSOFT.
THEY'RE ALSO ON THE, HAVE UPDATED CONTRACTS THAT CHANGED MODIFIED, UM, THROUGH THAT STATE CONTRACT AND UPDATED.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS WHAT A LOT OF COUNTIES USE.
[I.I. Discussion/Presentation on Department 490 Elections budget requests. (Crickett Miller / Judge Deen) ]
ITEM I ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT FOUR 90 ELECTIONS BUDGET REQUEST.CAN I APPROACH? WE HAVE A CHOICE CAUTIOUSLY? YES MA'AM.
I SENT ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT AN EMAIL FRIDAY, WHICH I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY SO YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
I'M MAINLY GONNA START OUT BY JUST MAINLY TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE BUDGET.
UM, THE FIRST THING IS SENATE BILL 1661 WHICH IS YOUR VERY TOP PAPER.
THIS IS TALKING ABOUT, UM, OUR MEDIA.
THEY RULED IN THE LAST LEGISLATION THAT THE MEDIA, OUR UNDERSTANDING, THEY CANNOT BE USED.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE LOCKED UP FOR 22 MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION.
SO THAT'S ALL THE MEDIA THAT WE USE AND ALL OF THE CONTROLLERS AND THE SCANNERS, IF THAT IS THE TRUTH.
AND THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO USE AROUND 456 OF THEM FOR THE NEXT SET ELECTIONS.
THEN I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADD INTO MY CONTRACT SERVICES.
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OKAY, THANKS.UM, WE ARE GOING TO CONFERENCE THE END OF JULY, THE 1ST OF AUGUST.
THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT AS ADVISORY FOR SURE BY THEN TO LET US KNOW IF THIS IS THE WAY THEY'RE READING THE LAW.
SO I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU READ IT.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS MAY BE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO AS SOON AS I KNOW IF THAT'S NOT TRUE, I WILL LET BRIANNA AND THE REST OF YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF OF OURS.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR IS AN INCREASE IN WORKER PAY.
UM, THIS IS NOT MY OFFICE STAFF, THIS IS OUR ELECTION WORKERS I GAVE YOU, ON THE SECOND PAGE IS A PRINTOUT OF EL UH, COUNTIES THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR SIZE IN REGISTERED VOTERS AND WHAT THEY PAY THEIR SALARY, THEIR ELECTION JUDGES.
I'M ASKING FOR 15 FOR OUR JUDGES AND 13 FOR THE CLERKS.
THIS WILL HAVE TO INCREASE THE, THE BUDGET FOR OUR ELECTION WORKERS AND CLERKS.
THEY'RE VERY GOOD PEOPLE, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HARD WORKERS.
THEY'RE GONNA WORK FOR US WHETHER WE PAY 'EM $10 THAT WE'RE $11 THAT WE'RE PAYING 'EM NOW OR IF WE PAY 'EM THE 15 AND 13.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A, A BONUS TO THEM TO GET PAID WHAT MOST OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US ARE GETTING PAID.
ALSO, IT, UH, THAT'S IT ON THAT, SORRY, I HAVE STICKY NOTES.
UM, PAY FOR OUR, MY ELECTION STAFF FOR A MAY LOCAL ELECTION AND AN EVEN YEAR.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ON YOUR NEXT PAGE HANDOUT.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT IS IN THE CODE THAT WE CAN CHARGE THE ENTITIES FOR THE MAY LOCAL ELECTIONS.
A LOCAL ELEC ELECTION IS OUR UNIFORM ELECTION, WHICH IS USUALLY THE FIRST OR SECOND SATURDAY OF A MAY.
SO IT'S THE ONE WE JUST HAD MAY THE SEVENTH OF THIS YEAR.
THOSE ARE ENTITIES THAT PAY US TO HOLD THEIR ELECTIONS.
SO IT'S GONNA BE SCHOOLS, CITIES, MUDS, UH, THE ESDS IN THIS MAY ELECTION, WE HAD 18 OF THEM THAT PAID US TO RUN THEIR ELECTIONS.
IF I COULD PAY MY STAFF FOR THEIR OVERTIME, THEIR COMP TIME, THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT USING THAT TIME BECAUSE IN AN EVEN YEARS Y'ALL WILL KNOW A PRIMARY, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TIME FOR THEM TO TAKE OFF.
SO THEY'RE GONNA END UP BEING MAXING OUT THEIR COMP TIME, WHICH IN ORDER, WHICH COSTS THE COUNTY MONEY ALSO.
SO IF WE COULD PAY THEM AND WE CAN PAY THEM THROUGH OUR CONTRACT SERVICES THAT WE CHARGE THE ENTITIES AND WE CAN PAY THEM OUTRIGHT FOR THAT COMP TIME.
UM, I'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO KEEP OUR COMP TIME DOWN SO IT'S NOT A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IF THEY HAD TO WORK THE SATURDAY AND THE, THE TWO SATURDAYS AND A SUNDAY, IT'S GONNA BE AROUND $12,126 TO PAY THE FULL-TIME STAFF IN MY OFFICE.
OKAY? UM, THE NEXT THING IS INCREASING POSTAGE.
THE MAIN THING ABOUT INCREASING POSTAGES, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS POSTAGE WENT UP, WE ALSO HAVE THE MASS MAIL OUT AND IT'S EVERY ODD YEAR.
SO THIS DECEMBER WE'RE GOING TO MAIL OUT VOTER REGISTRATION CARDS TO ALL ACTIVE VOTERS.
LORI SAID YESTERDAY IT WAS LIKE 24 NEARLY AWAY FROM 818,000 REGISTERED VOTERS.
SO THAT'S GONNA COST WHEN WE MAIL ALL THOSE OUT.
CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT THAT REGISTRATION CARD? UHHUH? WHY DO WE SEND THOSE OUT WHEN WE DON'T USE THEM? WELL, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO YOUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU.
THE THING IS, IS IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.
BUT IF WE MAIL IT TO YOU AND WE RECEIVE IT BACK, WE ARE ASSUMING YOU NO LONGER LIVE THERE.
SO THAT'S GONNA KEEP OUR ROLLS CLEAN.
SO WE PUT YOU ON SUSPENSE AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IN TWO FEDERAL ELECTION CYCLES, YOU'RE GONNA BE DROPPED OFF IF YOU DON'T CORRECT IT OR VOTE IN THAT TIME.
UM, IT IS VERY GOOD INFORMATION.
I TELL THAT TO THE VOTERS WHEN THEY COME IN.
WHY DO WE BRING THIS? IT HAS ALL OF YOUR JPS, YOUR COMMISSIONERS, ALL OF THE INFORMATION OF WHICH COURT YOU'RE IN AND ALL THAT GOOD INFORMATION, WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, BUT THEY ARE FOR US TO HELP WITH WHETHER YOU'RE REALLY LIVING THERE OR NOT.
TO MAIL THOSE AND, UH, ALL THAT OTHER INFORMATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I IF THEY LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND, AND I'VE TRIED BETTER ON OUR WEBSITE WHENEVER WE DO THE DIFFERENT BALLOT STYLES TO PUT, ACTUALLY PUT YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION CARD ON THERE AND POINT TO THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
CUZ THEY'LL ALL SAY, OH, I'M SUPPOSED TO GET BALLOT STYLE SIX.
AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU GO, WELL, BUT YOU LIVE IN BROCK
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ISSD SO YOU REALLY SUPPOSED TO GET BALLOTS.SO WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE MORE ON THAT.
UH, ALSO IT'S, IT'S A PRIMARY YEAR.
SO THERE'S, CANDIDATES ARE GONNA ASK FOR THE BALLOT BY MAILS, BALLOT BY MAIL COSTS 87 CENTS JUST TO MAIL.
AND SO WE HAD SIX THOU, 4,680 OF THEM IN THE LAST, UH, 2022 PRIMARY ELECTION.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA ALL COME BACK.
THOSE ARE REQUESTED OR THOSE ARE MANDATE OR NO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE USUALLY ONES THAT CANDIDATES HAVE SENT OUT A PAMPHLET OR SOMETHING FOR THEM TO SIGN AND SEND BACK TO US.
SO IT IS ACTUALLY REQUESTED FROM THE VOTER.
I MEAN, UH, TRAVEL THE CARPET AND PAINT, I PUT IT BACK IN HERE.
UH, THEIR MAINTENANCE WAS GONNA DO IT FOR US THIS YEAR, THE FRONT OF OUR OFFICE TO DO NO CARPETING AND NEW RE PAINT.
UM, I ASKED HIM TODAY, I SAID, HEY, YOU CAN GET TO THAT THIS YEAR.
AND I SAID, WELL, GOOD THING I'D ALREADY TALKED TO HIM EARLIER.
SO IT'S SUPPOSEDLY IN THEIR BUDGET TO DO FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, IT, I'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT COMPUTERS.
SO HE HAD THAT FIGURED IN WHENEVER HE DID HIS COMPUTERS.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, IS IF YOU DO INCREASE THE ELECTION WORKERS PAY, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARY THE STATE PAYS FOR THE SALARY PART OF THE ELECTION WORKERS AND THEY PAY $12.
SO IF WE ENDED UP GOING 15, 13, I NEED TO HAVE THE COURT'S APPROVAL THAT WE WOULD PAY THEM THE 15 AND 13 THAT WE WOULD ABSORB THE DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S QUITE A HIKE FROM WHERE WE ARE TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
BUT LOOKING AT THE LIST THAT YOU PROVIDED, WE'VE BEEN BEHIND THE CURVE I GUESS NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME ON WHAT OTHERS CORRECT PAY.
SO EVEN IF YOU WENT UP A COUPLE OF DOLLARS, IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOTHING I THINK.
BUT THAT'S, I'M NOT YOUR, IN YOUR SHOES.
SO, AND AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE, WE CHANGED THAT CUZ IT DIDN'T EVEN, IT'S ONLY BEEN THIS FOR WHAT, 2, 3, 4 YEARS? YES.
YOU ONLY PAID THE PRESIDING JUDGE $11.
AND WHENEVER I CAME IN, I ASKED FOR YOU TO PAY BOTH THE ALTERNATE AND THE PRESIDING JUDGE $11.
BECAUSE IT WAS LESS THAN THAT.
I REMEMBER IT PROBABLY BEFORE THAT.
IT WAS, IT WAS 11 AND 10 WHEN I CAME AND THEN I GOT BOTH JUDGES AT 11.
YOU JUST KEEP ASKING FOR MINUTE THOUGH.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA KEEP PLUGGING.
SO AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING? I'M ASKING 15 FOR THE JUDGES AND 13TH FOR THE CLERKS.
I MEAN YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT.
IF YOU HAVE A SEASONAL PART-TIME SUMMER HELPER IN Y'ALL'S PRECINCT BARNS, WHAT DO Y'ALL PAY THEM? AN HOUR PIZZA ABOUT 11 PIZZA.
WELL,
WELL
YOU DO HAVE PART-TIME $16 AN HOUR.
WELL I HAVE PART-TIME GUYS, BUT LIKE $11 OR 12.
WELL IT'S SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, BECAUSE I I WE HAVE A EXCEPTIONAL GROUP HERE IN PARKER COUNTY.
THEY ALL WORK REALLY WELL WITH ONE ANOTHER.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SQUABBLES ON ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS VERY NICE.
CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE SQUABBLES WE HAVE SQUABBLES.
LITTLE TURNOVER DON'T YOU? A LITTLE TURNOVER WITH WORKERS.
VIRTUALLY NO TURNOVER WITH YOUR WORKERS.
AND SO YEAH, I MEAN I BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU KEEP THE PAY WHERE IT'S AT, THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL ALIVE TO DO IT.
BUT I, LOOKING AT YOUR CHART HERE, I MEAN IT DOES PROVIDE A GOOD DISCUSSION POINT.
WELL YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE LAWS THAT HAVE CHANGED THAT NOW THEY'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AT THE POLL SITE AND THEY COULD HAVE A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY OFFENSE CHARGED AGAINST THEM AND UH, CAN THEY HIRE A LAWYER ON $11 OR $10 AN HOUR TO WELL IT'S, IT IS A LOT OF WORK.
I ACTUALLY ENJOYED THE TIME I DID THAT.
WHAT WE CAN ALSO DO MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL BUDGET HEARINGS IS ALSO LOOK AT THE, WHERE THAT'S BUDGETED NOW.
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TO ACTUAL, THERE'S FUNDS THAT ARE LEFT OVER.SO WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT TRUE, I MEAN OF COURSE YOU'RE STILL, YOUR ACTUALS ARE GONNA INCREASE.
BUT AS FAR AS LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD THAT INCREASE THE BUDGET, IT MAY NOT BE AS MUCH AS WHAT WE WOULD THINK BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME CUSHION IN THERE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT CHANGES LIKE YOU'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF ELECTION YEAR IT IS AND WHAT PART WE'RE CH CHARGING TO ENTITIES VERSUS IF IT'S ONLY THE COUNTY PICKING UP THAT COST.
AND IF WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSEMENTS, HOW MANY POLLING LOCATIONS WE HAVE, LIKE THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARY RUNOFF, THE COUNTY CHAIRS GET TO DECIDE THAT.
SO IF THEY DECIDE TO HAVE 38 INSTEAD OF THE 19, THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENCE OF COST.
UM, Y'ALL DECIDE THE NOVEMBER, HOW MANY POLL SITES WE'RE GONNA HOLD HAVE, UM, MAY I KIND OF DECIDE THAT.
BUT UH, ALL OF THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT AND WE COULD DO IT WHERE IN A EVEN YEAR WE BUDGET MORE MONEY FOR ELECTION WORKERS AND IN AN ODD YEAR WE DON'T BECAUSE THIS PAST YEAR WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD TWO ELECTIONS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT THING AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT WANTS TO DO THAT OR NOT DO THAT.
OR DO YOU STILL HAVE THE THOUGHT OF CLOSING THREE OR FOUR POLLING SITES OR NO SIR
UM, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP RIDING IT AND LEAVE IT WORDS OUT.
YOU, YOU WAS, WAS HOPING THAT I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT TO CLOSE THEM BUT THAT'S OKAY.
AND UH, WE'LL KEEP AGNES AND BETHESDA OPEN AS LONG AS WE CAN.
AGNES WAS THE MAIN ONE I WAS THINKING OF.
YEAH, BETHESDA'S PRETTY SMALL TOO, BUT YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
[I.J. Discussion/Presentation on Department 499 Tax Assessor-Collector budget requests. (Jenny Gentry / Judge Deen) ]
J.DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 99 TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR BUDGET REQUEST.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THIS FIRST.
I'LL GET TO THAT PART IN A MINUTE ASSESSOR.
TO START, UM, MY CONTRACT SERVICES I ASKED FOR $660 AND THAT'S TO MIGRATE TO THE QUICKBOOKS ONLINE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE DESKTOP QUICKBOOKS AND IT'S NO LONGER SUPPORTED AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE EITHER.
QUICKBOOKS IS MOVING TO ALL ONLINE AND I THINK ME AND BRIAN HAVE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE.
AND FOR THE 6 6 60 IT GIVES ME A ONE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION AND ALLOWS THREE USERS.
AND CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO.
SO THAT ACTUALLY HELPS US OUT.
THE DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS DO NOT CHANGE.
I ASKED TO INCREASE $500 TO COVER, UM, ADDING STAFF.
OUR CONFERENCE NEXT SUMMER IS IN DALLAS AGAIN, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF GO CAUSE IT'S NOT AS FAR TO TRAVEL AND THEY CAN DRIVE BACK AND FORTH IF NECESSARY.
UH, MY BUILDING AND GROUNDS, I HAD REQUESTED $6,200 AND THAT IS TO ADD ACOUSTIC PANELS TO THE SPRINGTOWN NX LOBBY FOR ANYONE WHO'S EVER BEEN IN THERE.
THE SIZE AND THE ODD SHAPE OF THAT LOBBY.
UM, IT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO EFFICIENTLY USE THE SPACE AND HERE FOR US AND FOR THE JP OFFICES.
SO IF WE COULD ADD ACOUSTIC PANELS, THAT WOULD INCREASE THE ACOUSTIC PERFORMANCE, IT WOULD HELP ALL OF THE CLERKS AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP THE CONSTITUENTS COMING IN.
THE BUILDING'S AROUND 4,100 SQUARE FEET.
I HAVE ABOUT 320 SQUARE FEET, THREE CLERKS AND THERE'S NO NO WAY TO ADD ANY MORE ADDITIONAL CLERKS BECAUSE THE ONLY WALL SPACE WE HAVE TO THE LOBBY WE ARE UTILIZING CURRENTLY.
SO I THINK THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED OR REWORKED OR I'M HOPING Y'ALL ACTUALLY CONSIDER THAT IN THE BUDGET.
I KNOW BUILDING IN THE GROUNDS MENTIONED THAT WHEN HE SPOKE EARLIER, OUR NEW ALITO BUILDING, WE ONLY HAVE 560 SQUARE FOOT BUT THE LAYOUT MAKES IT SO USABLE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE SPRINGTOWN OFFICE IS IT'S A VERY ODD SHAPE.
AND I KNOW THE GP OFFICE, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
THE SHAPE OF THE OFFICE MAKES IT VERY HARD TO BE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, AS Y'ALL ALL KNOW, WE ARE EXPERIENCING A LARGE GROWTH.
THE US CENSUS BUREAU RELEASED IN MARCH.
ONE, HALF OF THE TOP 10 COUNTIES IN THE NATION ARE
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IN TEXAS FOR GROWTH.ONLY TWO COUNTIES ARE ABOVE US KAUFMAN AT 8.9.
ROCKWELL, ROCKWELL IS 5.7 AND WE'RE AT 5.6% GROWTH RATE.
THAT MEANS MORE WORK, MORE INCOME TO THE COUNTY AND THE NEED TO GROW.
AND IT'S NOT JUST MY OFFICE BUT ALL OF THE FACILITIES AND STAFF ARE GONNA HAVE TO GROW AT SOME POINT.
SO I DO HOPE THAT Y'ALL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT WHEN Y'ALL ARE DOING YOUR BUDGET.
THIS YEAR I ASKED TO RECLASSIFY ONE PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME.
I CURRENTLY HAVE 19 FULL-TIME POSITIONS, THREE PART-TIME AND THREE LOCATIONS.
WHAT I NEED IS ADDITIONAL STAFF, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT THEM.
SO IF I COULD TURN A PART-TIME INTO A FULL-TIME AT LEAST I WOULD HAVE THAT MANY MORE HOURS OF WORK OUT OF SOMEBODY.
WHEN WE PULLED OUR NUMBERS, THAT'S WHAT I GAVE YOU.
IT SHOWS THAT OUR TRANSACTION COUNT HAS OVER DOUBLED IN ONE YEAR.
WE WENT FROM 130,000 TO 260 SOMETHING THOUSAND.
SO THE REPORTS I GAVE YOU ARE FROM ONE LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
AND IT'S NOT A REPORT I CREATE, IT'S THE STATE REPORT.
SO I DIDN'T GET TO FUDGE THE NUMBERS FOR YOU, I JUST PULLED IT SO YOU WOULD HAVE IT.
WE HAVE OVER 61 MILLION PASSED THROUGH OUR OFFICE IN A YEAR.
TWO LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION GOES TO RODEN BRIDGE.
THE COUNTY GETS AROUND 2.8, 2.9 MILLION.
SO I THINK GOING FROM ONE PART-TIME TO A FULL-TIME IS A VERY SMALL REQUEST AND I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER THAT.
AND I DO BELIEVE IT ALREADY ADDRESSED COMPUTERS.
WE ONLY HAVE SIX OF OUR 29 COMPUTERS THAT ARE COUNTY COMPUTERS AND THEY'RE ALL UP TO BE REPLACED.
AND FOR MY NON-CAPITAL, I NEED TO REPLACE THREE OF THE DRAFTING CHAIRS IN OUR WEATHERFORD LOCATION AND THEY'RE ABOUT $493 A CHAIR.
AND WE ARE TRY, WE HAD TO FIND A CHAIR THAT WOULD SUSTAIN SITTING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME HOPPING UP AND DOWN ON IT CAUSE THEY'RE TALL CHAIRS AND FOR WHATEVER WEIGHT OF WHOEVER WE HAVE.
I HATE SAYING THAT EVERY YEAR IT'S THE TRUTH.
SO MY INCREASE TO MY BUDGET MINUS THE PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME IS ONLY $1,160.
ANY QUESTIONS? GO AND MAKE A MOTION.
WHY I'M HERE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT ARE WE GETTING? IT SAYS THE ACCUPUN THAT I THINK I LIKE THAT.
DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE 16 FULL-TIME AND THREE PART-TIME? DID I CATCH THAT? I HAVE 19, 19 FULL-TIME FULL 19 FULL-TIME UHHUH AND I HAVE THREE LOCATIONS.
AND OUR ALITO OFFICE CAN SEE IT CAN SIT SIX GIRLS.
IT IS NOT BUSY ENOUGH FOR ME TO PUT SIX GIRLS OUT THERE.
SO SPRINGTOWN, THEY'VE OVER DOUBLED THEIR WORKLOAD AND I CAN'T ADD ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF.
SO I, ALL I CAN DO IS GRANT TIME OFF AND TRY TO FILL IN.
AND THEN HOW MANY PART-TIME PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? THREE.
UH, NOT TRYING TO GET INTO YOUR BUSINESS TOO MUCH, BUT WHY ONLY CONVERTING ONE OF THEM TO FULL-TIME.
I DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT ANYBODY ELSE.
SO THE PART-TIMES AREN'T THERE AT THE SAME TIME? CORRECT.
SO I HAVE, I HAVE TWO DESKS AND THE THREE KIND OF, THEIR SCHEDULES ROTATE, SO I WOULD HAVE ONE AND THEN THE OTHER TWO WOULD SHARE.
SO DOUBLE THE WORK, SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
ISN'T THAT CRAZY? WELL, SATTIA CALLED ME AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU PROVIDE JUSTIFICATION? I'M LIKE, SURE.
AND THEN I PULLED THE NUMBERS, I'M LIKE, GIRL, WE NEED LIKE THREE NEW PEOPLE.
WE DIDN'T, I KNOW WE'RE THEY'RE TIRED.
IT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT, IT'S NOT AN ANOMALY.
SO LOOKING JUST AT YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN, I MEAN NEXT YEAR'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER FOR YOU.
WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN OF WHEN YOU SAY NO ROOM? SPRINGTOWN NEEDS TO BE THE SIZE OF ALITO.
WE, OR WE COULD SET SIX CUZ ALITO, WE WOULD, WE'LL NOT OUTGROW THAT FOR 20 YEARS.
THAT EXPANSION'S PRETTY CRITICAL.
AND IT ONLY WENT FROM 300 SQUARE FOOT TO 560.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ADDED A LOT SQUARE FOOT.
WE JUST MADE IT EXTREMELY USABLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR SPRINGTOWN.
WHAT ABOUT WEATHERFORD? WE NEED MORE SPACE.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, I, MY STORAGE ROOM, I HAVE MOVED TWO CLERKS.
THEY WORK IN THE STORAGE ROOM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT ANYBODY, BUT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.
I HAVE TWO CLERKS TO ALMOST EVERY OFFICE IN THERE PLUS EVERYBODY IN THE FRONT AND OUR LOBBY CAN HOLD WHAT? SIX PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS OR NOT APPROVE IT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
I MEAN IT'S PRETTY SERIOUS WHEN YOU DOUBLE YOUR TRANSACTIONS IN A YEAR.
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UM, JUST WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN WOULD BE AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH, CUZ WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BLINK AN EYE AND WE'RE GONNA BE HERE AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING AND WHERE YOU PROBABLY DOUBLED AGAIN.I MEAN THE GROWTH IS JUST INSANE.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL, LAST YEAR WHEN I CAME, YES, I SAID WE'RE GETTING THREE TO 350 NEW RESIDENTS A MONTH.
NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE LIKE 450 TO 500 A MONTH.
AND YOU'RE GETTING HIT PROBABLY MORE THAN MOST DEPARTMENTS DIRECT.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, BUT YES.
WELL, I MEAN WE ALL, WE'RE ALL FEELING IT.
BUT YOU'RE TO PROVIDE THIS IS VERY COMPELLING.
I MEAN THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING THAT DOUBLED AND I MEAN, IN A PERFECT WORLD WE COULD REARRANGE THE WEATHERFORD ALL I IT NEEDS MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT THERE'S NOT A WAY TO ADD, SORRY.
ANY OTHER CLERKS BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUCH A LONG AND NARROW OFFICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE BEST.
[I.K. Discussion/Presentation on Department 476 District Attorney budget requests. (Jeff Swain / Judge Deen) ]
ITEM K ON DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 76.DISTRICT ATTORNEY BUDGET REQUEST.
GUESS WE CAN DO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN GO BACK.
YOU KNOW, WHEN'S, WHEN'S HE, WHEN'S HE COMING? TWO.
HE WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR TWO, I THINK.
SO, BUT WE DO HAVE A GENERAL, WE, WE, I WE CAN DO THAT NEXT.
I'M JUST WANNA BE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS AND KNOWS.
UH, LET'S GO TO MAIL AND DISCUSSION.
PRESENTATION ON GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES.
SO BECAUSE IT'S THIS TIME OF YEAR AND WE ARE IN THIS COURTROOM A LOT AND WE SIT ON THESE BENCHES A LOT, UM,
SO I GOT A QUOTE FROM THE SAME COMPANY THAT DID THE, THE CUSHIONS UPSTAIRS IN THE, THE LARGE COURTROOM.
AND FOR THE EIGHT BENCHES HERE, IT WOULD BE RIGHT AT $3,100.
YOU GOT A PRETTY GOOD SUPPORT GROUP THERE BY.
I'M SITTING ON MY WATER STAINED PILLOW.
UM, MARIANA ARE YOUR BUDGET UPDATES NOW? I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I HAD HAD, WHICH UM, YOU ALL I BELIEVE MAY HAVE RECEIVED THIS, BUT, UM, THE PARKER COUNTY SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION, UM, THAT WE FUND EACH YEAR.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THIS LAST BUDGET YEAR THAT WE MOVED IT FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE, THE GENERAL FUND.
AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 50,000.
AND SO, UM, A REQUEST THAT I HAD RECEIVED, I THINK MAYBE IT WENT THROUGH THE JUDGE'S OFFICE AND I GOT A COPY IS FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR THAT.
UM, BUT ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ONES, WHETHER IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, ABANDONED CEMETERY AND ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE IN SIX 40, I GUESS WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE MORE.
SO WE'LL HAVE THEM COME LIKE ABANDONED CEMETERY AND ALL THOSE FOLKS, WE'LL INVITE THEM TO COME FORWARD.
IF THAT'S, UM, REQUESTED, THEN THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT GROUP AS WELL.
SO YEAH, THEY, THEY'VE REACHED COORDINATED THROUGH THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, UM, TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE PRESENT.
I MENTIONED THERE WALDEN ON THAT SOIL AND WATER DEAL.
DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY WANT TO GO FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED OR THEY JUST WANT MORE MONEY? THINGS HAVE GONE UP.
THE COST OF, SO THE, UH, SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE 33 YEAH.
FLOOD CONTROL STRUCTURES OVER IN, UH, YEAR THREE PRECINCTS.
AND UH, PART OF THAT MAINTENANCE IS TO, UH, KEEP THEM MOWED AND UH, KEEP THEM FENCED.
AND THOSE ARE STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE NINE EARLY 1950S, MOSTLY TO PREVENT FLOODING IN THE TRINITY RIVER BASIN.
SO EACH OF YOU HAVE THOSE AND THE REASON THAT THEY'VE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE COUNTY IS
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CAUSE UH, THEY DON'T HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR ONE.AND SECONDLY, IT'S TO, UH, PREVENT THE LOSS OF ROADS AND BRIDGES AND NOW HOMES THAT ARE DOWN BELOW THOSE STRUCTURES.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE ON AIRPORT.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW OF OTHERS THAT, THAT WE GOT ABOUT 15 OF 'EM.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, DEAL.
THOSE WERE BUILT WITH FEDERAL MONEY, UH, I THINK IN RESPONSE TO THE FLOODING IN FORT WORTH IN 1949.
BUT THEY'RE GENERALLY FLOOD CONTROLLED STRUCTURES AND THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED MODE BRUSH KEPT, KEPT CLEAR FROM BRUSH AND THE, UH, THE, UH, VALVES AND OVERFLOW PIPES HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.
BEAVERS OUT OF THOSE AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND IN THE PAST, I THINK, I KNOW PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT FOUR HAVE PROBABLY GONE OUT AND DONE SOME WORK FOR THEM.
UH, HELPING CLEAR SOME OF THOSE STRUCTURES OVER TIME.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY DIFFICULT TO MOW THEM CAUSE OF THE SLOPE OF DAM.
AND UH, IF THE BRUSH IS NOT KEPT UNDER CONTROL ON THOSE STRUCTURES, THEY'LL GROW THROUGH THE DAM AND CREATE A, A SITUATION WHERE IT COULD LEAK.
THEY PROVIDED, UM, A SUMMARY OF THEIR MAINTENANCE THAT WAS COMPLETED BETWEEN, UM, JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR THROUGH, UH, JUNE 4TH.
AND THAT THEY'VE INCURRED, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS 104,000 TO MAINTAIN.
AND SO THE BIGGEST PIECE IS YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, MOWING DEBRIS, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GATE REPAIR OR NEW FENCE INSTALLATION.
IN SEVERAL OF THESE STRUCTURES, UM, THE PROPERTY AROUND THEM HAS SOLD OR THE PROPERTY ITSELF, CAUSE THEY'RE JUST EASEMENTS AND, UH, THERE ARE NOW SUBDIVISIONS RIGHT AROUND THOSE LAGO, LINDA WOULD BE ONE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOURS.
BUT, UH, THAT'S FLOOD CONTROL STRUCTURE THERE.
SO THERE'S ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 33 OR 34 OF THEM IN ACCOUNT.
I THINK THOSE, THEY, THEY WILL BE WILLING TO COME AND PRESENT JUST LIKE THOSE OTHER FOLKS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Y'ALL ALREADY READY FOR US? WE ARE.
[I.L. Discussion/Presentation on General Budget updates. (Brian Fowler / Judge Deen)]
HMM.SO DO YOU WANT ME TO GET STARTED OR DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT? SURE.
SO, UM, IN THE DA BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, I THINK I'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR THINGS WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT.
UM, ONE, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EASY WHEN REC CATEGORIZING ONE OF OUR POSITIONS FROM SECRETARY TO LEGAL SECRETARY FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE HAD A RECEPTIONIST JOB IN OUR BUDGET, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS A RECEPTIONIST JOB THAT HASN'T BEEN A RECEPTIONIST JOB IN FIVE, 10 YEARS EASILY.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT REFLECT WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.
IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT, UM, DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE BUDGET, BUT, UM, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT ACTUALLY REFLECT WHAT THAT PERSON DOES.
SO, UM, I THINK I GAVE Y'ALL A LETTER ON THAT TO EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT THAT SPOT'S CURRENTLY HELD BY JENNIFER, WHO'S BEEN WITH US FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
UM, BUT IT'S REALLY THE POSITION, NOT THE PERSON.
SO THE POSITION CURRENTLY DOES RECORDS RETENTION IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF THEIR JOB.
UM, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF, ALL OF THE JUVENILE INTAKE GOES THROUGH THERE.
THE JUVENILE PLEADINGS FILINGS.
SOME OF THAT GOES THROUGH JENNIFER'S POSITION.
AND FRANKLY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SHE'S, SHE'S TRAINING, SHE'S THE PERSON THAT KNOWS ALL OF THE LEGAL SECRETARY JOB POSITIONS.
SO SHE TRAINS OUR OTHER PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE NEW OR THEY HAVE UNUSUAL SORTS OF, UH, THINGS THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
SO THAT'S SERVING AS A LEGAL SECRETARY POSITION.
SO WE'D ASK Y'ALL TO MAKE THAT A LEGAL SECRETARY POSITION.
UM, THE SECOND THING UP, THE, UH, NEW ASSISTANT DA POSITION THAT I ASKED FOR, UM, RETURNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE DEAN MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
I ASKED Y'ALL FOR AN ASSISTANT DA THERE AND I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA ASK FOR ANOTHER ONE THIS YEAR.
THIS IS THE SECOND PART OF THAT ASK.
UH, I WAS TRYING TO NOT HAVE TO GROW THE STAFF BY TOO MUCH ALL AT ONCE.
UM, OH, AND I THINK I PROVIDED THE, UH, THE LETTER FROM LAST YEAR TO YOU GUYS ALONG WITH JUST A BRIEF THING FROM THIS YEAR.
BUT BASICALLY WE HAD A 50% INCREASE IN OUR CASELOAD BETWEEN OH SEVEN AND 2023, UH, OH SEVEN BEING THE LAST TIME WE ADDED ANY STAFF.
AND, UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.
UM, WITH THE, WE HAD SIX ASSISTANT DAS GOING INTO THIS LAST BUDGET YEAR.
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SO THAT WE'RE UP TO EIGHT.UM, THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO HAVE TWO TRIAL TEAMS OF THREE FOR EACH OF OUR TWO DISTRICT COURTS.
UH, WHICH WOULD ACCOMPLISH, ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF WHAT WE NEED.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY NEED SOME HELP POTENTIALLY WITH INTAKE OR, OR JUVENILE, UM, DOWN THE ROAD.
OUR JUVENILE CASES ARE EXPLODING ON US, UM, OF LATE AS WELL.
SO WE'RE, UM, I THINK THIS GETS US WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
BUT THAT'S A POSITION THAT'S JUST BASED ON INCREASE IN CASELOAD.
UM, WE HAVE SOME FURNITURE STUFF IN THERE.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF SELF-EXPLANATORY.
I THINK KAREN WAS TELLING ME, WE PUT PICTURES IN THERE, I'D FORGOTTEN IF WE DID THAT OR NOT.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE'S DESKS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE BARE WOOD UNDER THE LAMINATE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE DESK, BUT A LARGE CHUNK OF THE DESK.
WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME, UH, REPLACED FURNITURE.
THE, THE, THE BIG ASK AND FRANKLY, TO ME, THE MOST EXCITING AND INTERESTING ASK, ALTHOUGH WE NEED THE HELP FROM THE, THE ADA SPOT AS WELL.
BUT THE, UM, THE PORTAL SYSTEM DESK FOR, UM, IT'S A CLOUD BASED PORTAL, UM, INTERESTING OR IRONICALLY CALLED NICE, NICE ACTUALLY STANDS FOR SOMETHING, IT'S AN ACRONYM, BUT IT DATES BACK A LONG WAY AND THEY DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT IT STANDS FOR, MOST OF THEM.
THIS IS AN ASK THAT COMBINES OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, AND JUVENILE PROBATION WILL BENEFIT FROM IT AS WELL.
UM, AT PRESENT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF, UH, STANDARD OR DIGITAL CASE FILING SYSTEM FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO OUR OFFICE.
THE WAY THAT WE RECEIVE CASES FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT IS KIND OF AD HOC.
UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS US MOST OF THEIR CASE FILINGS THROUGH EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH IS AXON.
Y'ALL HAVE THEM BUDGETED FOR $235,000 FOR THAT PRODUCT, UM, THAT THEY GIVE US THEIR STUFF ON.
UH, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE TO HAND CARRY OVER CRIMINAL HISTORIES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE ACCIDENTALLY SHARED OUT TO THE DEFENSE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A CRIME.
UH, WE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO NOT COMMIT CRIMES WHILE ON THE JOB.
UM, ANYWAY, UH, SO THEY DO IT THAT WAY.
WEATHERFORD PD, THEY'RE ON WATCHGUARD.
UM, SO THEY SEND US A LINK TO THEIR WATCHGUARD STUFF, BUT THEN THEY CARRY OVER BY HAND ALL OF THEIR OFFENSE REPORTS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT FILED THROUGH WATCHGUARD WATCHGUARD, UNLIKE EVIDENCE.COM, YOU CAN'T SEND PICTURES AND OTHER SORTS OF RECORDS THROUGH THERE.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAND CARRY THOSE OVER, BRING US DISCS, BRING US FLASH DRIVES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE ALSO ON WATCHGUARD AND ALL OF THE OTHER, OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE ON EVIDENCE.COM.
UM, AND SO THEY DO KIND OF A HODGEPODGE OF PAPER OR UH, LINK OR WHATEVER AS WELL.
SO IN TALKING TO OTHER PROSECUTORS AROUND TALKING TO DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, I, WE'RE ONE OF VERY FEW COUNTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF PORTAL SYSTEM FOR OUR, UH, DISCOVERY OR YEARS, IF NOT DECADES BEHIND ON THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO CORRECT.
AND THE BIGGEST, I, I PROBABLY WOULD'VE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, IF I COULD FIND SOMETHING PRIOR TO NICE THAT ALLOWED US TO MERGE BOTH THE AXON OR EVIDENCE.COM PRODUCT, CUZ THAT'S THE SAME THING.
AND WATCHGUARD AND I, I REALLY COULDN'T FIND A PRODUCT THAT DID THAT.
AND UM, FROM MY POSITION AS DA, I DON'T LIKE DICTATING DOWN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT PRODUCTS THEY CAN USE.
I'M NOT A POLICE OFFICER, I'M NOT A SHERIFF.
UM, I DON'T LIKE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO FOR THEIR JOB, TO DO THEIR JOB MOST EFFECTIVELY.
UM, I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S MY ROLE.
UM, AND SO I NEED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKED WITH ALL OF THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE.
WILL PULL IN, UH, ALL OF THE STUFF OFF OF WATCH GARDEN, ALL THE STUFF OFF OF AXON.
HAVE, HAVE YOU TALKED TO MR. KAYWOOD ABOUT ALL THESE? YES, SIR.
HOW FAR BEHIND WE ARE ON ALL THIS STUFF? I THINK HE'S, I THINK HE'S AWARE OF IT.
UM, AND, AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ACTUALLY HAD, HAD JAMES WORKING ON A PORTAL FOR THEM THAT, UH, WAS QUITE A CHALLENGE.
WE'VE, UH, UH, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.
COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD REACHED OUT TO US AND, AND WE'VE UH, UH, IMPLEMENTED, UH, UH, A PORTAL FOR THEM.
BUT IT'S TAKEN EXUBERANT AMOUNT OF MY TIME, UH, TO KEEP IT RUNNING, UPDATING, UH, WORK WITH ALL THESE ENTITIES.
UH, IT'S BECOME MORE OF A BURDEN THAN I THINK IT'S HELPING ANYONE, HONESTLY.
WELL, AND AND IMPORTANTLY ON THAT TOO, THAT IS, THAT'S THE NEXT SIDE OF THIS.
UM, THAT'S THE NEXT SIDE OF THIS PRODUCT.
UM, IT, SO THE INTAKE PART, RIGHT? IT SAVES US THE TIME OF HAVING TO PULL ALL THAT STUFF IN.
THE, THE CREATION THAT JAMES CAME UP WITH FOR THE, UM, FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS A SHARING OUT AND DISCOVERY PORTAL, RIGHT? YES.
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UM, SO THEY HAVE TO UPLOAD ALL THEIR STUFF TO IT.NOT ALL, EVERYTHING THEY GOT, Y'ALL GOT SOME STUFF TO WHERE IT, IT CAN TO DUMP OVER.
BUT, UM, ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY'RE GETTING, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM WEATHERFORD, UM, THEY'RE HAVING TO SCAN THAT IN, UPLOAD THAT TO THE SYSTEM, THE UH, THE NON-COMPLIANT, NON-COOPERATIVE VIDEOS.
THEY'RE HAVING TO UPLOAD THAT AS WELL.
SO IT'S A LOT MORE DATA INTENSIVE ON THE CA SIDE OF THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN THEN SHARE IT OUT TO THE DEFENSE.
UM, WITH THIS PRODUCT, WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT LOADS IT IN, IT KIND OF WORKS.
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH Y'ALL KNOW THIS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THE JAIL STAFF BEING ON ODYSSEY.
THEY TAKE THE TIME ON THE FRONT SIDE TO INPUT ALL OF THE DATA ON THE DEFENDANT ON THE CASE.
AND THEN WE CARRY THAT OVER INTO THE PROSECUTOR'S SIDE AND THEN THAT CARRIES OVER TO THE CLERK'S SIDE.
I SEE LILA NODDING CUZ SHE KNOWS HOW ALL THIS WORKS.
THEY TAKE THE UPFRONT TIME ON, ON LOADING THAT TO US AND THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
HOWEVER, THEY GIVE THAT TO US.
UM, BUT THEN WE GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIME THEY ALREADY HAVE DONE ON THAT.
UH, AND THEN WE GET TO SEND IT OUT TO THE DEFENSE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.
UM, AND SO FROM OUR STAFF TIME, THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH, UH, UPLOAD, GATHER UP AND THEN WE SEND IT OUT IN A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO THE DEFENSE TOO.
UM, SOMETIMES WE'LL GIVE THEM DISCS, FLASH DRIVES, UH, A LOT OF LINKS TO THE, THE BODY CAMS, THE CAR CAMS, UM, ON, ON EITHER THE AXON OR THE WATCH GUARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE WILL, WE'LL SEND THEM EMAILS, DIFFERENT STUFF.
UM, AND FROM THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE, WHICH YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BILLING YOU FOR THE HALF OF 'EM THAT ARE COURT APPOINTED, UM, THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WHEN THEY GET THOSE FROM US.
ALL THESE DISCOVERY MATERIALS WHICH WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THEM BOTH STATUTORILY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY.
UM, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL OF IT IS CUZ THEY'RE GETTING IT IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FORMATS IN THEIR EMAIL VIA A LINK.
UM, GENERALLY WOULDN'T BE PAPER, BUT UH, WE'LL MAIL 'EM A DISC, WE'LL MAIL 'EM A FLASH DRIVE, THEY'LL COME BY AND PICK IT UP.
UM, AND SO THEY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME KEEPING UP WITH IT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE DIFFICULT THING FOR THEM WITH WATCHGUARD OR AXON, WHEN WE SEND IT TO THEM, THEY GET A LINK, THEY THEN HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THAT AND THESE ARE VERY HIGH DATA, UH, FILES AND SO IT TAKES FOREVER TO DOWNLOAD THAT.
IT'S HD STUFF TIMES, YOU KNOW, TWO HOURS LONG FOR THE TRANSACTION ON THE ROAD TIMES HOWEVER MANY CAMERAS YOU HAVE.
UM, IT'S A LOT OF STUFF TO DOWNLOAD AND ULTIMATELY, UM, MOST OF THE ATTORNEYS ARE SENDING BILLS TO US FOR THAT.
SO FROM THE COURT APPOINTED SIDE, WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THAT IS, Y'ALL ARE GETTING BILLED FOR THAT.
UM, SO BASICALLY IT WILL HELP US, UM, US THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I'LL GET TO THE JUVENILE PROBATION SIDE IN A MINUTE.
IT'LL HELP US GET THOSE IN, HAVE ALL OF OUR STUFF IN ONE PLACE.
IT'S CLOUD BASED SO WE CAN ACCESS IT OUTSIDE THE OFFICE, UM, WITH EASE WITHOUT HAVING A FILE.
SO CAN THE DEFENSE, IF THEY'RE DOWN AT THE JAIL TALKING TO A GUY, THEY CAN PULL UP THEIR FILE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, THE SHARING OUT, WHEN WE SHARE THAT OUT TO THEM, IT CREATES THE DISCOVERY COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE IN EVERY CASE AND FILE WITH THE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, INSTEAD OF OUR STAFF DOING THAT, IT BASICALLY AUTOMATICALLY CREATES THAT DOCUMENT, UM, WHICH WILL SAVE US A TON OF TIME.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER COOL BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT GO WITH IT.
UM, THAT, THAT WILL REALLY BE, UH, HELPFUL AS WELL.
IT CREATES AUTOMATIC TRANSCRIPTS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH AND SEARCH IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR PART OF THE VIDEO.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY SOUND LIKE THAT'S A NICE CONVENIENCE.
UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MEDIA THAT WE GET THESE DAYS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, IF WE HAVE A WAY TO SEARCH THAT FILE SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO WATCH AN HOUR OR TWO OF VIDEO, UM, WE CAN JUST GO RIGHT TO THE PARTICULAR WORD OR WORDS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, FROM THE OFFENSE REPORT.
THAT CAN SAVE US A BUNCH OF TIME AND WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO, UM, THE, THE ACTUAL PRICE, THE AMOUNT I ASKED FOR WAS 72,000.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ACTUALLY 78,000 RATHER.
UM, SO I ORIGINALLY GOT A QUOTE FROM THEM FOR 72, UM, AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS A NEED FOR, UM, DISCOVERY COMPLIANCE FOR THEIR CPS CASES.
UM, IN CPS CASES YOU HAVE A TON OF DOCUMENTATION, NOT AS MUCH VIDEO AS WE DO ON YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL LAW ENFORCEMENT STOPS.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ROADSIDE STUFF.
THEY DO HAVE SOME BUT NOT THAT MUCH.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL RECORDS, A LOT OF CPS RECORDS,
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UM, THAT THEY DEAL WITH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY SYSTEM CURRENTLY TO DO THAT.SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I ASKED JOHN, HOW MANY OF THOSE CASES DO Y'ALL GET? UM, AND HE GAVE ME A NUMBER, UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 300, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, ANYWAY, AND THEN I, I WAS LOOKING AT JUVENILE CASES CUZ WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE ONE SINGLE PLACE THAT THEY GO TO FILE A CASE WITH OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN ON JUVENILE CASES THEY FILE THEM BOTH TO OUR OFFICE AND JUVENILE PROBATION.
SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY JUVENILE PROBATION WILL BENEFIT FROM HAVING THIS AS WELL CAUSE THEY'LL GET THEM FILED WITH THEM DIGITALLY AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A COPY INSTEAD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVING TO MAKE DUPLICATE COPIES OR JUVENILE PROBATION HAVING A COPY AND SEND IT TO US.
IT'S KIND OF A SINGLE POINT OF, OF CASE FILING.
UM, AND SO I GOT THEIR NUMBER AND UH, BASICALLY THEY GAVE US A PRICE PER, UM, PRICE PER CASE BEYOND THE NUMBERS THAT THEY ORIGINALLY QUOTED US ON.
UM, AND SO I'VE ADDED THAT 6,000 IN, WHICH WOULD BE THE PRICE TO DEAL WITH THOSE.
I WENT BACK TO THE GUY AND WAS TELLING HIM WHAT I WAS THINKING WE COULD DO AND BASICALLY THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE CAN GET YOU THAT FOR THE SAME 72,000 THAT WE QUOTED YOU ORIGINALLY.
SO WE ACTUALLY CAN CUT THAT DOWN FROM 78 TO 72, UM, IN YOUR BUDGETING.
BUT WE, UH, BOTH JOHN AND I, UM, BOTH LOOKED AT SEVERAL OTHER PRODUCTS.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT REALLY COMPETES WITH THIS ONE.
UM, IT'S A, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WITH SOME OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE SAW WAS THAT THEY WERE VERY UM, VERY SMALL, VERY KIND OF MOM AND POP.
UM, AND I WAS WORRIED ABOUT LONGEVITY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU WORRY ABOUT WHEN YOU START TAKING THINGS AND YOU DON'T HAVE 'EM IN PAPER ANYMORE, YOU HAVE 'EM ALL DIGITALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES MY STUFF GO IF THIS COMPANY FOLDS, UM, WHERE DOES THIS STUFF GO IF THEY MERGE WITH SOME OTHER COMPANY, DO I STILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT? SAME TYPE OF ACCESS.
UM, AND THIS COMPANY IS A LARGE COMPANY, IT'S TRADED ON THE STOCK EXCHANGE.
UM, I THINK THEY GOT THEIR START DOING LIKE LONDON TRAFFIC CAMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE NEW TO THE TEXAS MARKET SO IF YOU GO LOOKING FOR 'EM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF UH, OF OTHER COMPANIES CUZ THEY JUST STARTED THIS LINE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT IN THE LAST YEAR THEY'VE SIGNED CONTRACTS WITH UH, THE DA'S OFFICE IN CHICAGO, ATLANTA, ORLANDO, AND THEY JUST SIGNED ALL, ALL OF THE, UH, BOROUGHS OF NEW YORK.
SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VETTING THEM.
UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PASSING THEIR, THE CHALLENGE I GUESS.
SO BASICALLY I I I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE ASK FOR US.
I'M KIND OF SURPRISED WE GOT IT DONE FOR THAT PRICE.
UM, SINCE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY NOT EVEN COUNTING DPS IS SPENDING ABOUT $600,000 ON THEIR SIDE OF THIS EQUATION.
UM, I KIND OF THOUGHT WE'D END UP BEING MORE THAN THIS, BUT WE CAN GET IT DONE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S, UH, THE, THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE LEVEL FOR THREE YEARS.
CAUSE YOU ALWAYS WORRY SOMETIMES THEY GET YOU THAT FIRST YEAR AND THEN THE PRICE GOES UP DRAMATICALLY AND THAT WAS KIND OF WORRISOME.
UM, ULTIMATELY THE PRICE WILL START CREEPING UP BECAUSE THEY'LL START MAINTAINING MORE OF OUR DATA.
UM, IT WASN'T AS HIGH AS IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TAKING IN OLD DATA FROM A DIFFERENT CLOUD-BASED SOURCE AND THEN STORING IT FOR US.
UM, SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, WE'RE NOT BRINGING DATA TO THEM.
THEY'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH WITH US AND THEN IT'LL SLOWLY BUILD, UM, AND HOPEFULLY NOT GET TOO BAD CUZ WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE, THE RETENTION STUFF ON THE BACKEND.
SO THOUGHT I'D ASK WITH THE SURE.
UM, 72 AND YOU KNOW, REDUCING IT FROM THE 78, UM, WILL THERE BE ANY TRAVEL EXPENSES OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT? SO SOMETIMES IT'LL BE HERE'S WHAT IT IS TO MIGRATE IT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WHOLE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT THEN THEY CHARGE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE TO COME HERE, TRAVEL EXPENSES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT.
SO WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE NOT LOWER IT AS MUCH IF THERE'S ANY OF THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT.
COMMON ON SOME OF THEM WHERE THEY'LL QUOTE YOU, HERE'S THE MIGRATION, EVERYTHING AND THEN ANY AGAIN TRAVEL IF THEY'RE COMING ON SITES OUTSIDE OF THAT CONTRACT AT A ACTUAL COST OR WHATEVER.
WELL AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND HE WAS TELLING ME THAT THE, THE GUY I WAS TALKING TO WAS TELLING ME THAT THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER COST FOR THAT, BUT IN READING THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND IT'S, Y'ALL KNOW, IT'S LIKE 30 SOMETHING, 40 SOMETHING PAGES OF MICRO PRINT.
UM, SO AS A LAWYER THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT UP MY ALLEY, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M CRIMINAL.
I DON'T READ ALL THE CONTRACTS ALL THE TIME.
UM, THERE IS A PROVISION FOR THAT IF THEY HAVE TRAVEL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT THEY COULD CHARGE THOSE TO US.
SO THEY MAY SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO LEAVE THAT IN.
AND THEN WE JUST GIVE THAT BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE DON'T SPEND IT.
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MY QUESTION WAS DOES IT ALLOW YOU TO ELIMINATE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE ALREADY PURCHASING? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DELETE OFF THE LINE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE PROBABLY WILL END UP AND, AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR A YEAR OR SO BEFORE WE, WE RE-LOOK AT IT, I THINK AND OUR, OUR POSTAGE LINE ITEM WENT UP A LOT DURING COVID BECAUSE WE STOPPED HAVING DEFENSE ATTORNEYS COME TO OUR OFFICE AND JUST STARTED MAILING THEM ALL THOSE DISCS AND FLASH DRIVES.UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY WILL END UP PRODUCING THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE SHOULDN'T NEED TO, WE SHOULDN'T NEED QUITE AS MANY DISCS AND FLASH DRIVES AND STUFF SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CUT OUR SUPPLY ITEM A LITTLE BIT.
I WAS THINKING WAS THERE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAD THAT WOULD, YOU WOULD NOT NEED? NO, THIS IS A BRAND NEW THING.
I THOUGHT MAYBE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE YOU COULD ELIMINATE REPLACING ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT REPLACING ANOTHER ONE.
IT'S NOT REPLACING NO, IT'S CATCHING US UP TO THE TIMES.
YOU HAD INDICATED THAT UH, YOU WERE GETTING SOME BILLS BACK FOR THE TIME SPENT BY THE OTHER ATTORNEYS SOMETIMES WHEN YOU WOULD SEND THIS INFORMATION OUT ABOUT HOW MUCH OH, OH.
FROM THE COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS, RIGHT? YES SIR.
AND THAT, THAT COMES IN THROUGH YOUR, UH, YOUR DISTRICT AND CCL JUDGES BUDGETS FOR COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS.
I, I, ALL I KNOW IS ALL ON WHILE WE'RE SAVING HMM.
FOR AND, AND PARDON ME IF I'M PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH MM-HMM.
PART OF THAT EFFICIENCY IS THEN THEM NOT BILLING US BACK FOR THEIR TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT A THOUSAND BUCKS A YEAR OR IS THAT 10,000? A HUNDRED THOUSAND? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE, ARE THEY BILLING 1 25 OR ONE 50 NOW PER HOUR? ONE 50 AND ONE 50.
I THOUGHT THEY WENT UP RAISE THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE COUNTY PAYS THAT FOR AND YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MULTIPLY IT BY HOWEVER, WHATEVER PERCENTAGE IS COURT APPOINTED.
UM, YOU KNOW,
UM, BUT I MEAN IF IT'S AN HOUR ON, ON EVERY CASE OR A HALF AN HOUR ON EVERY CASE TIMES HOWEVER MANY HUNDRED CASES A YEAR, THAT IS, THAT'S A LOT OF TIME.
UM, AND SOME, SOME ATTORNEYS ARE MORE SUPPORT STAFF BASED THAN OTHERS.
UM, A LOT OF THE ATTORNEYS DO EVERYTHING THEMSELVES AND I THINK A LOT OF THEM FEEL BAD ABOUT BILLING US FOR THE TIME THAT IT'S BASICALLY THEIR COMPUTER'S FROZEN UP TRYING TO DOWNLOAD THE STUFF.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE SEEING ALL OF THAT BILL, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BILLING FOR SOME OF IT AT, AT 125, THAT'S 624 HOURS, WHICH I WOULD THINK WITH US DOING HUNDREDS OF CASES, YOU COULD GET TO 6 24 RELATIVELY QUICKLY IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.
AND I'D BE, I'D BE HESITANT TO SAY IT'S A WASH.
CUZ THAT JUST SEEMS WAY TOO OPTIMISTIC.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME SAVINGS NOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HIT ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE OF INCREASED CASELOAD OR MORE BILLING, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME.
AND THEN THE FLIP THE, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS NOT ABOUT OUTSIDE PARTIES, BUT ABOUT INTERNAL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY GUESS ON HOW MANY HOURS THIS IS SAVING YOUR CREW AND ALL OF THAT? A LOT.
A AND, AND FRANKLY, UM, I, I THINK THE BETTER PART DON'T YOU THINK KAREN, THE BETTER PART OF TWO OF OUR FULL-TIME LEGAL SECRETARY POSITIONS IS SPENT DOING STUFF RELATED TO THIS.
SO IS IT, IS IT, IS IT FAIR TO SAY NOW THE COUNTY'S GROWING QUITE A BIT? WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW THE SIXTH FASTEST GROWING COUNTY.
THEY BUMPED US FROM NINE TO SIX PER THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER.
UM, YOUR WORKLOAD'S NOT GONNA GO DOWN ANY, BUT NO.
ADDING AN IMPLEMENTATION LIKE THIS PROBABLY HELPS YOU NOT HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR STAFF QUITE AS QUICKLY.
SO THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE SPEND 80 GRAND EXTRA BUT WE SAVE WHEN WE ADD IT ALL UP QUITE A BIT MORE.
WELL, AND, AND I'M HOPING THAT, UM, I ALREADY HAVE SOME THINGS IN MIND THAT THOSE FOLKS CAN TAKE OFF OF OUR ATTORNEYS CUZ THEY'RE, THEY'RE SLAMMED.
UM, AND I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN THEM TO DO THAT THEY DON'T DO NOW THAT REALLY IS LEGAL SECRETARY WORK.
LIKE OUR, OUR PLEA DOCUMENTATION, UM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I KNOW DOES DO THAT FROM THE LEGAL SECRETARY SIDE.
UM, WE DON'T, CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT SIZE OF STAFF.
SO I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THAT TO DO.
I WONDER IF WE COULD GET THAT NUMBER ON HOW MUCH WE'VE BEEN BUILT BACK.
HOW HARD WOULD THAT BE TO GET IT WOULD BE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN, UH, WHEN THE, WHEN WE, WHEN THE ATTORNEY AD LITEM SUBMITS THE BILL, THEY SUBMIT ONE BILL, UM, AND IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT THEY HAVE TO ITEMIZE IT.
SO NOT, NOT EVERY SINGLE TIME IS IT ITEMIZED.
SO THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH PAPER.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA LABEL THAT IN THERE.
SO IT MIGHT BE FOR SOME ATTORNEYS EASIER
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THAN OTHERS TO DISSECT THE BILL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ACTUALLY GOES TO THAT.SO SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE.
WELL IS THAT SOMETHING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT OR ACTUALLY SOMETHING ELSE? IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
I MEAN I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOME EFFICIENCIES IN DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE, THE COURT APPOINTED LAWYERS DEALING WITH THEIR FOLKS IN THE JAIL BECAUSE THEY MAY GET THE DISCOVERY A LITTLE BIT EARLIER OR HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOW 'EM SOMETHING RIGHT THERE ON THE SPOT THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD AT HAND WHEN THEY'RE DOING A JAIL VISIT TOO.
SO IT'S POTENTIAL YOU COULD SAVE SOME MONEY IN YOUR, UH, YOUR INMATE HOUSING EXPENSE AS WELL.
I MEAN A LOT OF THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING YOU'RE PROBABLY NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON AND SAY THIS SAVINGS IS FROM THIS.
UM, BECAUSE HALF THE TIME IT'S GONNA BALANCE OUT WITH ADDITIONAL CASES, ADDITIONAL INMATES, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS.
SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY HOW YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT, BUT IT'S THERE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SAVINGS THERE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT ON THAT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REST OF THE BUDGET ON THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL OPEN RECORD REQUEST? YEAH, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE TAYLOR OLSON AT ATKINS SIRA.
RIGHT? CAN YOU, I MEAN THAT'S A DECENT CHUNK.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, AND WE UM, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF USE FOR THAT AND, AND FRANKLY WE, THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME IN THIS BUDGET YEAR WHERE WE HAD A PARTICULAR REQUESTER THAT WAS USING THE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT OPEN RECORDS ACT, UH, AS A SWORD.
BASICALLY HE WAS ANGRY THAT I HIRED HIS FORMER LAWYER WHO HE WAS MAD AT.
UM, AND SO HE WAS TRYING TO USE THAT TO ATTACK OUR OFFICE, WASTE OUR TIME.
AND EVEN AT ONE POINT TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T BE GETTING THESE IF I WOULD JUST FIRE HIM.
WELL, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE HELD OVER A BARREL LIKE THAT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO AS A PROSECUTOR.
UM, FRANKLY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AS AN OFFICE HOLDER.
YOU JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
UM, AND UH, THAT WAS TAKING UP A TON OF OUR TIME JUST DEALING WITH THOSE AND FRANKLY HAVING THEIR EXPERTISE ON KNOWING HOW TO WORK WITH THE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT SO THAT HE COULDN'T ABUSE IT LIKE HE WAS DOING IN, IN QUITE THE FASHION THAT HE WAS DOING IT.
UM, WAS I I I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD'VE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM, TO BE HONEST, CUZ WE WERE GETTING MULTIPLE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUESTS DAILY THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY DID THEM, YOU WOULD NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY WOULD I OR, OR, OR TOM OR APPELLATE LAWYER THAT DOES THE OPEN RECORDS ACT, UH, REQUESTS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT RESPOND TO THAT.
IT WOULD TAKE ALL OF OUR STAFF TO RESPOND TO THAT.
AND THAT, AND Y'ALL PROBABLY HAVE LOOKED AT IT, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE LAW IS SO POORLY WRITTEN AND SO WIDE OPEN THAT IT LITERALLY, NOT ONLY DOES IT ALLOW THEM TO ASK FOR ALMOST ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON THAT THEY REALLY DON'T WANT FOR A PUBLIC REASON, BUT IT PUTS IT AT THE TOP OF YOUR PILE BECAUSE THE DEADLINES TO RESPOND TO ARE RIDICULOUS.
UM, NOW YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THOSE IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA GIVE THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR, BUT IF WHAT THEY ASK FOR IS INSANE
UM, WITHOUT TAYLOR OLSEN ON THAT HELPING US NAVIGATE THAT, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A DISASTER FOR OUR OFFICE.
SO, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT ONE, ADAM 7,000 USED.
SO YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING PRETTY GOOD ON IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS Y'ALL BUDGETED IF WE, IF WE CAN, WE'LL GIVE IT ALL BACK TO YOU.
BUT THAT WAS A BLESSING TO HAVE THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE FOLDER ON MY
SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, THOUGH I DID TALK TO BRIANNA ABOUT, UH, ONE THING, BUT I THINK THAT PROBABLY FALLS UNDER ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.
BUT WE TALKED LAST YEAR ABOUT TRYING TO GET MINE AND JOHN'S SALARY TO BE THE SAME AND I WOULD LIKE TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN ITEM FOR ANOTHER DAY.
BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE TO BRING THAT UP SO THAT Y'ALL COULD TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG.
SO BECKY AND I ARE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT YES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THE COURT KNOWS THAT THAT, UM, REQUEST WILL WILL BE COMING.
UM, AND SINCE WE HAVE YOU HERE TODAY, UM, SURE.
I KNOW YOU SENT THIS TO THE COURT AND SO THIS IS ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE DISTRICT'S COURT'S BUILDING, BUT IF YOU WANNA JUST TOUCH ON THE CHAIRS SO THAT WAY YOU KNOW, IT'LL GO ON THE REQUEST LIST.
AND SO SINCE YOU'RE HERE YEAH.
I THINK WE DECIDED TO PUT THAT IN BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS BUDGET.
IT JUST KIND OF, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF CHAIRS OVER THERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REPLACED SINCE WE MOVED IN, IN, IN, UH, CHRISTMAS OF 1999.
AND ESPECIALLY THE ARMCHAIRS, THEY ARE FALLING APART.
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UM, THEY, THEY BASICALLY THE WHOLE, OH NO, IT'S, YEAH, TAKE THAT TIME TO BUY A LOT.IT'S, YEAH, THERE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES, BUT MAN, THERE ARE SOME WHERE THE, THE WHOLE WHITE STUFFING SHRED OF OF YEAH.
THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SIX INCHES OF THE CHAIR IS SHOWING.
AND IF WE CAN FIX IT WITH UPHOLSTERY, GREAT.
IF REPLACING THE CHAIR IS MORE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT? IT JUST HAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW MANY CHAIRS YOU, WHAT, HOW MANY CHAIRS ARE WE TALKING? WE PUT IT IN THE REQUEST AND, AND SOME ARE WORSE THAN OTHERS.
IF YOU WANTED TO SPREAD IT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU CERTAINLY COULD.
WE LOOKED AT 'EM WHEN YOU WERE, WE WERE OVER THERE.
YOUR OFFICE THAT DAY, THE TOTAL IS 4,750, BUT IT'S FOUR WING BACK CHAIRS IN THE LOBBY.
ONE WING BACK CHAIR, UM, ON CASTORS FOR THE JUDGE'S CHAIR IN THE MINI COURTROOM, AND THEN SIX ARM CHAIRS IN THE LOBBY.
WE COULD HAVE PICKED A LOT MORE OF THEM.
THE ONES WERE, I DIDN'T ADD TO IT, BUT IT WAS THE, UH, THE ONES WITH THE ARMS ARE REALLY GONE
AND ONE OF THOSE IN PARTICULAR, I, I DO SEE EVERY TIME WE HAVE GRAND JURY, CUZ THAT'S WHERE I SIT AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT ME, BUT IF WE HAVE A VISITING JUDGE COME IN, HE'S GONNA WANDER ONE ON EARTH WE'RE DOING WHEN HALF OF HIS CHAIR IS SHOWING THAT THE STUFFING
SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD FIX THOSE.
AND I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE DOWN A THING TO PAINT THE BUILDING OVER THERE TOO.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE EVERY SO OFTEN.
SO, UM, BUT I, I WOULD ASSUME MARK, I WOULD ASSUME WE PROBABLY COULD DO THAT MOSTLY WITH INMATE LABOR.
HE, HE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER.
AND, AND, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE OUR INVESTIGATORS COME AND, AND SIT WITH THEM.
UM, WHEN WE WERE MOVING ALL THE RECORDS AND STUFF TO CREATE THE SPACE FOR, UH, THE, THE WORK THAT THEY DID OVER IN OUR OFFICE OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE GOT KIND OF USED TO CHECKING INMATES OUT FROM THE, THE JAIL AND KEEPING AN EYE ON 'EM ON FRIDAYS, UM, WHEN THE PRECINCTS AREN'T CHECKING 'EM OUT.
SO, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.
NOT JUST FOR OUR FLOOR, EITHER FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING.
AND, UH, JUST AN OBSERVATION FROM MY POINT.
IF, IF WE, UH, IF WE GRANT ALL THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR TODAY, WE'LL BE SAVING SO MUCH MONEY FOR THE COUNTY.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'LL EVEN RIGHT.
GET ALL OF OUR MONEY, BUT, RIGHT.
BUT, UH, UH, EVERY, UH, EVERY ONE IS IMPORTANT AND WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUR REQUEST FOR THE PORTAL, UH, SOFTWARE THERE, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
WE HOPE WE, WE HOPE WE HAVE MONEY TO FUND EVERY ONE OF THEM.
AM I YOUR LAST ONE FOR THE DAY? YEAH.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE 12TH PRESENTER OF THE DAY.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE COVERED L AS WELL.
UM, SO I WOULD MOVE TO ITEM TWO AND I'D ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
THEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
REFLECT THAT WE WILL ADJOURN AT TWO 17.