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GOOD MORNING.[I.A. Discuss/Approve General Fund budget for FY2023-2024. (Judge Deen)]
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET, UM, STARTED AND WE'RE GONNA, UH, RECORDS SHOW THAT IT IS 9:00 AM UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UH, WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE PRESENT.UH, WE WILL MOVE TO, ON THE AUGUST 21ST, 2023 TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS. AND UNDER THE GENERAL ITEM ONE, I DISCUSSED AND APPROVE THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 23, 20 24.
FISCAL BUDGET, INCLUDING, BUT NOT A LIMITED TO.
UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE UNDER ITEM, A DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET, UH, IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, JOHN, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION HERE.
I'VE BEEN REQUESTED, UH, BY A COMMISSIONER TO, UH, REFERENCE OR DISCUSS THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET, BUT IT IS NOT ON THIS SHEET.
IT IS LISTED AND IS A PART OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
CAN I DO THAT BEFORE WE GET STARTED INTO THE BUDGET? I, I THINK UNDER THE GENERAL BUDGET YOU CAN DISCUSS ANYTHING.
THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM A AND DISCUSS THE APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET UNDER SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THIS, ALL THIS BUDGET STUFF AND, AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET.
UH, IT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR BUDGET IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, HE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THIS STUFF ON HERE IF IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT HE AND HIS CHIEF DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THEY NEED FOR THE SAFETY OF, OF OUR OFFICERS.
AND, UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE WAKING UP IN THE MORNING AND BEFORE I LEAVE THE HOUSE, I HAVE TO PUT A, A BULLETPROOF VEST ON TO GO TO WORK.
SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT.
I MEAN, I, THIS IS JUST ME TALKING, BUT I'M GONNA REALLY PUSH FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET STUFF BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S FOR THE SAFETY OF HIS OFFICERS AND THE SAFETY OF CIVILIAN PEOPLE OF PARKER COUNTY RESIDENTS SOMEWHAT.
BUT THIS STUFF IS REALLY NEEDED.
AND, AND I WANNA START WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF POSSIBLE, WHENEVER WE, WE START THE BUDGET STUFF HERE TODAY.
WELL, WE'RE, WE JUST STARTED THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE BUDGET AND THEN WHATEVER WE HAVE LEFT, WE'LL HAND OUT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
IF THERE'S ANY LEFT, WE MAY GIVE IT ALL TO HIM, BUT PROBABLY NOT.
WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UH, IS THAT COURT? UM, I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THUS FAR, IF YOU WANT THAT BEFORE WE JUMP IN.
SO LAST WEEK WE HAD, UH, TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS WHERE THERE WERE, UM, SEVERAL THINGS APPROVED.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE TOTAL IS THAT WE'VE APPROVED THUS FAR.
SO IF WE LOOK UNDER, UM, SALARY, THE, UH, LONGEVITY POLICY WAS APPROVED AS IS.
AND SO JUST THE INCREASE FOR THE F Y 24 BUDGET WILL BE 41,490.
THERE WAS A 3% COLA APPROVED FOR ALL NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL OF 951,000.
UM, AND THEN IT, THERE WAS A FULL-TIME POSITION WITH AN ANNUAL SALARY OF 55,000 PLUS BENEFITS, AS WELL AS A INCREASE, UH, TO THE PART-TIME BUDGET, UM, OF 15,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 45,000.
SO THE TOTAL OVERALL, UH, SALARY AND BENEFITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THUS FAR IS 1.1 MILLION.
AGAIN, THERE WERE OTHER, UH, RATES AND THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED, BUT, UH, THOSE DID NOT HAVE AN IMPACT, UH, AT THIS TIME.
UM, THEN UNDER CAPITAL, NON-CAPITAL, IT, THERE WERE 198,783 THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND SO I KNOW, UM, KIM HAS UPDATED SPREADSHEETS OF THE DETAIL OF WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
THERE WAS ALSO, UH, 1.5 MILLION OF ROLLOVER, UH, CAPITAL AND NON CAP ITEMS, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUDGETED IN THE F Y 23 BUDGET.
UM, SO THE TOTAL APPROVALS WERE ABOUT 2.8 MILLION.
THAT INCLUDES THE 1.5 ROLLOVER? YES.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING IS THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WILL HAVE TO COME OUT OF THIS YEAR'S REVENUE 1.8, SO OF WHAT WAS YEAH.
AND SO TOTAL APPROVALS ARE 2.8 MILLION.
UM, AND SO I DID WANT TO HAND OUT, UM, ONE ITEM JUST TO GO THROUGH AND HAND IT OUT TO EVERYONE.
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THANK YOU.SO I WAS ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER, UM, A TAX RATE, UH, IMPACT.
SO IF WE WERE NOT AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UM, FOR THAT, AS WELL AS THE IMPORTANT THING IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE TAXPAYER? AND SO WHAT I PUT TOGETHER IS BROKEN OUT, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES, THE TAX RATE IS COMPOSED OF THREE SEPARATE RATES THAT ARE VOTED ON SEPARATELY AND NEED TO BE ASSESSED SEPARATELY.
AND SO THAT'S OUR M AND O, SO THAT'S OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FOR GENERAL FUND, OUR I N S, WHICH IS OUR DEBT SERVICE FOR OUR VOTER APPROVED DEBT, LONG-TERM DEBT, AND THEN ROAD AND BRIDGE.
AND SO WHAT I PUT TOGETHER IN THIS SCHEDULE, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UM, WHAT IS THE PROJECTED REVENUE AND WHAT IS THAT IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUDGETED.
UM, SO IF YOU SEE THE COLUMN THAT SAYS INCREASE OVER PRIOR YEAR, UH, PROJECTED, THAT MEANS THE PROJECTED REVENUE AT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT RATES.
AND THEN WHAT, WHAT IS THE TAX IMPACT TO THAT? SO HOW DOES IT IMPACT OUR TAX RATE? AND THEN, UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR TAXPAYERS? AND SO THE COLUMN THAT SAYS PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO THOSE DIFFERENT REVENUE RATES, UH, PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT'S ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE TAXPAYERS? AND SO, UM, I ASKED THE CHIEF APPRAISER IF HE COULD PLEASE, UM, RUN WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD VALUE IN PARKER COUNTY, AND THAT IS 333,120.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, WHENEVER THE TAX RATE IS VOTED ON AND THE IMPACT TO THAT, THAT IS ALWAYS INCLUDED IN THAT NOTICE.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD, SO WHILE YOU GO DOWN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW MANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, UH, SO I'VE INCLUDED NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UM, FOR M AND O, IF WE ARE ONE SET ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF WE'RE AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THEN IF WE'RE AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, CONSIDERING THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE, UM, SO IF YOU RECALL WHEN THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED, UH, THE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS, THAT USED TO BE THAT YOU COULD GO UP TO 8% PRIOR TO TRIGGERING AN ELECTION.
AND SO NOW THAT'S CAPPED AT 3.5%, AND THEN THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS FROM THERE.
SO IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT YOUR DEBT SERVICE.
WE DO TAKE A, UM, REDUCTION TO OUR RATE FOR SALES TAX.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE NEW PORTION THAT'S CALLED THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE.
AND SO WHAT THAT IS, IS IT LOOKS AT WHAT IS THE, UM, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND THEN WHAT IS YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE.
UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU BASICALLY DON'T USE IN THAT CURRENT YEAR IS BANKED FOR A FUTURE YEAR.
AND SO IT DOES A THREE YEAR LOOK BACK.
AND SO WHAT THAT SAYING IS, YOU COULD HAVE INCREASED YOUR RATE UP TO THAT AMOUNT WITHOUT TRIGGERING ANY SORT OF ELECTION, BUT YOU DIDN'T.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO BANK THAT FOR FUTURE YEARS IN THE EVENT THAT, UM, YOU NEED TO ADJUST YOUR TAX RATE IN IN A CURRENT YEAR.
SO AGAIN, UM, THE FIRST YEAR WOULD'VE BEEN 2020, WHICH WAS ZERO.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR PART OF THAT RATE WILL, UM, WILL FALL OFF.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE IF WE LOOK AT, UM, GOING TO THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION PURPOSES, THERE'S ABOUT 7.80 CENTS THAT WERE BANKED THAT WERE NOT USED.
AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT, UM, AGAIN, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ARE WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UH, FOR M AND O FOR THE GENERAL FUND? AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO FOR, FOR A TAXPAYER? I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UH, COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY, YOU, YOU HAVE REQUESTED THAT TO BE DISCUSSED.
YOU ADDRESSED SOME KEY POINTS WITH THAT.
I, I THINK, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO FOLLOW THIS AGENDA.
UH, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR INTENT? AND THEN YOU COULD COME BACK TO IT.
SO YEAH, WHAT I WAS SAYING, WE'LL COME BACK TO OKAY.
VERY WELL, SOMETHING DISCUSS, I JUST WANTED THAT OUT BEFORE WE STARTED.
VERY WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT DIRECTION YOU WERE LOOKING AT.
YES, A COMMENT ON YOUR BUDGET.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
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THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FUNDING GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ABOUT 1,000 50,000 THIS YEAR.SO THE REQUEST I MADE, WE CAN ROLL THOSE AND IT, IT STARTS JANUARY ONE, SO IT'S NOT GONNA START AT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO MY REQUEST THAT, THAT I PUT ON MY BUDGET, I, I'LL EITHER WAIT UNTIL JANUARY ONE TO, TO MAKE THOSE HIRES IF APPROVED OR THEY CAN GO BACK AND REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND BRIANNA MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 10 50,000 THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ABOUT 10, $50,000 AVAILABLE TO THE DA'S OFFICE THAT DOES THE SAME THING.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A, A GRANT THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF ABOUT 500,000.
SO, BUT THAT, THAT MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE JANUARY ONE.
SO WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE BUDGETS, THEY CAN GO BACK AND REIMBURSE OUR BUDGETS.
ACTUALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN YOUR ABSENCE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE A LITTLE BIT THAT I, I WASN'T, WE REQUEST THAT WE'D HAVE TO FUND THIS YEAR WITHOUT, WITH TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT GRANT MONEY TO GO BACK AND COVER THOSE COSTS.
ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? NO, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT GOES RETRO.
WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S SAYING IS NORMALLY, UM, FOR THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS YOU HAVE TO APPLY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH OURS IS OCTOBER ONE, BUT FOR THE, IT'LL BE ONLY IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE GRANT THAT REGARDLESS OF FISCAL YEAR YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE GRANT JANUARY ONE.
AND SO, AS I SAID, BECAUSE, UM, THAT GUIDANCE HASN'T BEEN RELEASED, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG FROM THE TIME OF APPLYING FOR THE GRANT AND THEN AWARD WHAT THAT TIMING WOULD BE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT PROBABLY JUST LIKE MOST, YOU KNOW, GRANTS, THE, THE GRANT PERIOD WOULD PROBABLY BE AFTER THE TIME THAT ONE IT'S AWARDED AND ACCEPTED BY THE COURT AND THEN INCURRING THOSE COSTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE VERSUS THE TIMING OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
SO LET'S, LET'S WHILE YOU'RE HERE, IF I MIGHT, THE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.
WE, UH, AT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, WE HAVE ABOUT 4 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM OVER LAST YEAR.
AND SO 2.6 IS THAT OF M AND O 700 AND ABOUT 6,000 IS I N S AND 650, UH, FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
SO 2.7, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? UH, 2.6 FOR M AND O.
AND, AND ACTUAL, IN ACTUALITY THAT MONEY WAS ALREADY SPENT LAST YEAR.
AND SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED IS HOW, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FUNDS DO WE HAVE? AND I SAID ZERO, UM, BECAUSE WE BALANCED OUR BUDGET WITH FUND BALANCE.
SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GO UP TO WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR FUND BALANCE BEFORE YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
SO WHEN ANYBODY ASK HOW MUCH MONEY, MONEY OVER LAST YEAR DO WE HAVE TO SPEND, THE ANSWER IS ZERO ZERO.
AND, AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE, WE TALK ABOUT SPENDING, ANYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT SPENDING CAN ONLY COME FROM TWO PLACES.
ONE OF IT IS, IS RAISING TAXES.
THAT'S ONE OPTION WHICH YOU GAVE THE SHEET YOU GAVE US HERE.
AND THE OTHER IS SPENDING FROM FUND BALANCE.
SO EVERY EXPENDITURE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THOSE THAT YOU OUTLINED FOR SALARIES, THE CAP AND NON CAP, ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO COME FROM ONE OF THOSE TWO PLACES.
CORRECT? WE WE'RE ALREADY, UH, UH, THEN, UH, $2.4 MILLION INTO RIGHT NOW TODAY, ADDING THOSE TWO TOGETHER, THE SALARIES AND THE CAP, NON CAP ITEMS, UH, 1.1 AND 1.3 WE'RE ALREADY THAT FAR INTO EITHER FUND BALANCE OR MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE SOME OTHER WAY.
SO I DID HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN THERE OF 1.1 MILLION.
SO IT BRINGS IT DOWN, UH, SLIGHTLY.
BUT YES, FOR THAT, ANYTHING THAT WE, ANYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED, ANYTHING THAT WE VOTE ON IS GONNA COME FROM ONE OF THOSE TWO PLACES.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT CAN COME FROM.
UM, AND ONE THING I STARTED THINKING ABOUT LAST WEEK AS WELL, AND SO SINCE THERE WAS THE VOTE TO, UM, HAVE A BOND PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR AN ELECTION IS, YOU KNOW, IF THAT BOND PASSES AND WE START GOING THROUGH OUR RATING CALLS AND THEY ARE VERY RIGOROUS CALLS AND IN DEPTH WITH THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES, ONE THING THAT THEY ALWAYS ASK IN THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANNED, UM, REDUCTIONS FROM YOUR FUND BALANCE? AND AGAIN, IF THEY, IF THEY SEE WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, UM, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY.
WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS, ARE YOU BALANCING YOUR BUDGET WITH RECURRING COSTS EVERY YEAR FROM FUND BALANCE? AND THEY LOOK AT THAT FROM THE STABILITY OF, OF YOUR ORGANIZATION, OF YOUR ENTITY.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER FUND BALANCE IS USED TO BALANCE THIS BUDGET, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, UM, IN RELATION TO OUR TOTAL OPERATING COSTS AS WELL AS THE FUND BALANCE.
AND SO AGAIN, WHEN IT'S LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, CAP, NON CAP, THOSE ARE KIND,
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THOSE ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES.AND SO SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ON THE LIST THIS YEAR ARE, BUT IF WE LOOK HISTORICALLY AT HOW MUCH OUR CAP, NON CAP IS, WE HAVE CAP, NON CAP EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CARVE THAT OUT, THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT, UM, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN OPERATING COST.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THESE ARE RECURRING COSTS EVERY YEAR, THEY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT RECURRING COSTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ALWAYS PRESENT AND GROWING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF FUND BALANCE THAT WE, WE LOOK AT THOSE COSTS AS WELL.
SO, SO WE'VE SPENT 1.1 MILLION TOWARDS SALARIES THAT ARE RECURRING, CORRECT.
AND, AND THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR WITH, UH, SOMETHING NEXT YEAR.
THEY'LL BE BACK THE CAP, NON CAP WILL NOT, THOSE ARE ONE TIME EXPENDITURES.
UH, I GUESS MY POINT IS WE, WE UH, UH, WE SPENT MONEY LAST YEAR FOR RECURRING AND THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THAT EXTRA REVENUE AND WE SPENT IT LAST YEAR.
AND WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION ALREADY AT THIS 1.1.
UH, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABOUT THREE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS THIS SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US, WHICH IS RAISING THE TAX RATE.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS BALANCING OUR BUDGET FROM FUND BALANCE, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND WE, WE CONTINUED TO ADD MONEY TO OUR FUND BALANCE EVEN THOUGH WE, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE, UH, SPENT FROM IT, WE CONTINUED TO ADD TO IT AND TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 2 MILLION.
WE HAVE A PRODE PROJECTED DECREASE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ALL PROJECTIONS PRESENTED TIME.
THIS TIME WE HAVE PROJECTED DECREASE.
BUT LAST YEAR WE ADDED TWO MORE MILLION.
UH, THE OTHER IS TO SEND THE WORD OUT THAT YOU BETTER FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA CUT YOUR BUDGET.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY, UH, HAVE LAID OUT THERE.
THAT'S THE THIRD OPTION THE WAY I SEE IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT.
I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION, AND AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN FUND BALANCE TO COVER ALL OF THOSE.
SO IT'S, IT IS EITHER YOU'RE CUTTING, SOME RAISING, I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT.
LOOK, LOOKING AT IT AND BALANCING OF THE BUDGET.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR, UM, I I, UH, DO YOU HAVE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THE, THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE IN MILLIONS, ROUGHLY? UM, I CAN TELL YOU I BUYING, NO, I MEAN THE, THE ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD.
IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK THERE'S 15 MILLION AND I WANNA SAY LIKE 14, BUT I THINK THAT NUMBER, NUMBER 15.
SO WHAT I HAD ON THIS SHEET, WHICH AGAIN, I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE ADJUSTMENTS.
UM, THE TOTAL FUND 10 REQUESTS WERE 15.8 WHEN WE STARTED.
AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE DECREASES, BUT THEN I KNOW WITH, YOU KNOW, IT, THAT NUMBER WENT UP FROM WHAT I HAD ORIGINALLY PRESENTED WHEN WE STARTED THIS ON TUESDAY.
SO, AND THAT'S JUST IN THAT BALLPARK? YES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST FUND 10? THAT IS CORRECT.
KIM, DO YOU HAVE A LOT? WELL, YES.
I HAD ABOUT, WELL, I'LL JUST GO DOWN WHAT I HAD.
I MEAN, AGAIN, IT COULD HAVE CHANGED JUST SLIGHTLY.
SO CAP, NON CAP AND IT OF 3.2.
UM, WE HAD ROLLOVERS OF CAPITAL ITEMS FROM THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET OF 1.5.
UH, IF WE LOOK AT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A, UM, TO REMOVE PART OF THAT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
BUT WITH THAT INCLUDED, IT WAS ABOUT 7.8 MILLION, UH, SALARY AND BENEFITS ABOUT 2.8.
AND THEN, UH, CAP, NON CAP FOR NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS WERE ABOUT 538,000.
SO FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT, FOR A TOTAL ABOUT 15.8.
AND AGAIN WITH SOME, SOME FLUCTUATION, BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY FOR, AND WHAT WE'RE NOT.
IT, IT SEEMS TO ME WE NEED TO SEND A CALL OUT TO, TO EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CUT YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND EVEN HALF OF THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT MAKING SOME HARD DECISIONS.
SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LISTEN TO WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE TODAY.
BUT SOMEDAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP TO THE HARD DECISION OF HOW ARE WE GONNA MANAGE TO, UH, PAY FOR THESE REQUESTS AND HOW ARE WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE.
AND, AND IF YOU'RE OUT THERE AS A DEPARTMENT
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HEAD, YOU BETTER, YOU BETTER SUBMIT A LIST OF WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT FOR YOU OR NOT.AND THAT'S THE COLD HARD FACTS OF, OF MONDAY MORNING TODAY.
I HAD ONE QUICK COMMENT, OR FOR CLARIFICATION.
YOU SAID ONE OF THE OPTIONS WOULD BE RAISE TAX, BUT I THINK THAT TO BE MORE ACCURATE, 'CAUSE WHAT'S PROPOSED IS THE NO NEW REVENUE WOULD BE NOT AS GREAT OF A TAX CUT.
THE NO NEW REVENUE IS, WOULD BRING IN THE SAME REVENUES WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME TAX AMOUNT.
SO IN THEORY, UH, THE TAX RATE IS COMING DOWN.
6 CENTS, SIX TO SEVEN, SIX TO 7 CENTS SIX.
HOWEVER, UH, BASED ON THE PROPERTY VALUE AND THE REAPPRAISAL OF EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY VALUES, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT IT COMES DOWN TO PRODUCE THE SAME REVENUE.
THE NO NEW REVENUE IS, YOU KNOW, DOING THE CALCULATION OF THE RATE THAT'S GOING TO ASSESS THE SAME AMOUNT OF LEVY AS THE YEAR BEFORE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S REGARDLESS TO WHAT YOUR, YOUR DEBT SERVICES.
SO THAT'S FOR M AND O AND YOUR DEBT SERVICE.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, UM, IF WE LOOK, YES, IT DOES GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR FOR JUST STRAIGHT NUMBERS.
UM, AND SO WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE INCLUDED IN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
UM, SO 95% OF THE ADDITIONAL IS FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION ADDED TO THE ROLL.
AND THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT 5% INCREMENTAL IS JUST ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TAX ROLL FOR THOSE SAME PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON THE ROLL LAST YEAR.
AND SO AGAIN, UM, IF YOU GO THROUGH, BECAUSE WE'VE ADOPTED A NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND AS I DISCUSSED LAST TUESDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD IN THE, IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DRAW DOWN OF BOND FUNDS.
WE'VE HAD THE TAX NOTE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHERE OUR DEBT SERVICE HAS INCREASED, BUT THE TAX RATE HAS NOT INCREASED TO THEN PAY FOR THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL DEBT.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I BROUGHT UP MY SPREADSHEET OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT'S BASICALLY THE M AND O, UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS THAT WOULD'VE WENT TO M AND O TO YOUR GENERAL FUND, WENT TO PAY FOR, UH, DEBT SERVICE TO ADJUST FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS RELATED TO THE DRAWDOWN, UM, FROM THE BOND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TAX NOTE, AND IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY PRIOR TO THAT, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING WHEN WE'VE BEEN AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHAT THAT UNUSED INCREMENTAL, IT'S TAKING, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE ADJUSTED YOUR RATE TO, UM, CREATING THAT CEILING TO WHERE WE ADOPTED, WHICH WAS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU CAN BANK THAT FOR FUTURE USE.
SHOULD, SHOULD AN ENTITY DECIDE TO DO THAT.
SO THE TAX NOTE THAT WAS ISSUED TO PAY FOR THE EAST PARKER COUNTY ANNEX, DOES THAT COME FROM GENERAL? DOES THAT COME FROM IT COMES FROM DEBT SERVICE.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE NOT ADJUSTING THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS.
SO THE TAX RATE WAS NOT ADJUSTED.
THERE WASN'T AN INCREASE TO PAY FOR THAT.
I WOULD SAY IT WASN'T REQUIRED TO PAY FOR IT.
AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A REDUCTION.
WELL, BUT, BUT THAT COMES OUT.
SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO PAY THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD $3 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING ON SANTA FE IF APPROPRIATED.
SO THAT MONEY AGAIN IS MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SPENT IN, IN EFFECT BY CONTRACT THAT HAS TO COME FROM HERE.
CAN THAT MONEY COME FROM ANY OTHER PLACE? CAN IT CAN'T COME FROM THAT SERVICE? NO, NO.
IT HAS COME FROM, SO THE ONLY THING THAT COMES FROM, FROM COMES IS ZERO.
SO UNLESS YOU'RE ISSUING DEBTS, HOW MUCH WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 1.3 MILLION FOR CAP, NON CAP, 1.1 FOR SALARIES AND 3 MILLION, THEN WE'VE OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THAT BUILDING.
SO WE'RE, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT BUILDING DEPENDING ON WHO GOES IN IT AND WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE MODIFICATIONS NEEDED.
SO WE'RE AT 5.4 MILLION AGAIN, OVER, UH, OR FROM FUND BALANCE OR FROM WHEREVER REVENUES SOURCE ELSE WE MIGHT MAKE IT COME FROM.
I THINK THE REALITY OF THIS IS, AND YOUR POINT'S BEEN WELL MADE AND, AND AND CLARIFIED, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I THINK THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD HERE.
UM, WE'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE TOUGH PART OF THIS IS GOING THROUGH AND, AND, AND QUALIFYING OR QUANTIFYING, UM, WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS ARE OF EACH RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT THAT JUST THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE STILL HAVE TO OPERATE, WE STILL HAVE EXPENSES.
THE 3% CALL IS SOMETHING CERTAINLY THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT
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BASED ON WHAT THE INFLATION RATE IS ON THE INDEX.UM, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
UM, BUT THERE ARE OUT THERE NEEDS OUT THERE THAT NEED TO DO.
SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE ARE BECAUSE, UH, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS, UH, THE PULLING OF THE FUND BALANCES IN THE PAST HAS BEEN A, HAS BROUGHT US KIND OF WHERE THE, THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD NOW.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS ON THIS, BUT BUSINESS GOES ON, WE'RE A GROWING COMMUNITY, WE'RE NUMBER SIX IN THE NATION, AND WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT, UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO MEET.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
BUT THOSE OBLIGATIONS DON'T, DON'T GO AWAY JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BACKED UP AGAINST THE WALL FINANCIALLY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS ON HOW AND, AND WHAT WE, UM, CONFIRM AS THOSE THAT ARE NECESSARY OR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE VERSUS WHAT THAT WISHLIST IS OR WHAT A NEED IS.
CAN THAT CAN BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD, CAN IT BE PUSHED THE NEXT YEAR? UM, THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE.
BUT I WANNA BE REAL CLEAR HERE THAT WE STILL GIVEN THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING, HAVE NEEDS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BALANCE THAT, RIGHT.
AND SO FOR THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, CAN'T SEE THE SPREADSHEET THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE TAX RATE IMPACT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE HIGHEST RATE, AGAIN, THAT'S THE CEILING FOR YOUR M AND O PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, IT'S ABOUT $68 ANNUALLY INCREASED.
IF YOU'RE AT THE HIGHEST FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, IT'S 10,000 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, IT'S $78 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
OR IF WE LOOK AT THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD, IT'S ABOUT $260, UM, ANNUALLY, WHICH WOULD GENERATE, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 21 POINT, OR SORRY, $22 MILLION.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE CEILING AND I'VE BROKEN DOWN KIND OF IN, IN BETWEEN THERE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, 22 MILLION OVER THE PRIOR YEAR WITH ON YOUR AVERAGE HOMESTEAD, $260 ANNUALLY.
BUT JUST ON M AND O THAT THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT TOTAL IS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK ONLY AT M AND O, OH WELL THAT, THAT'S MY, THIS BOTTOM PORTION HERE IS THE TOTAL FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT IF WE LOOK AT JUST M AND O, UM, IT WOULD BE 17.7 MILLION INCREASE OVER PRIOR YEAR.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD BE $68 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND I FEEL CONFIDENT IN MY SPREADSHEET 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY WENT AND I TOOK MY OWN PROPERTY.
AND SO IF YOU GO TO THE TRUTH AND TAXATION WEBSITE, YOU CAN GO DOWN AND EVERY ENTITY THAT TAXES YOU, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHAT IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND WHAT IS THE PROPOSED RATE FOR THAT ENTITY.
AND SO I LOOKED, I LOOKED AT, UM, GENERAL FUND AND I LOOKED AT LATERAL ROAD AND CALCULATED THE DIFFERENCE AND COMPARED IT TO MY SPREADSHEET AND IT WAS WITHIN 50 CENTS.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS, THE NUMBERS THAT I'M GIVING YOU ARE ACCURATE OF HOW IT WOULD IMPACT, UM, BACKING UP AND LOOKING AT THAT.
HOWEVER, THE 1 CENT ABOVE THAN KNOWN NEAR REVENUE RATE WOULD GENERATE, UH, 2.2.
SO IT WOULD BE TO THE GENERAL FUND OVER LAST YEAR, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 4.8, ALMOST 4.9 MILLION.
AND SO THAT NEXT COLUMN IS AT EACH ADDITIONAL TIER, HOW MUCH MORE REVENUE DOES IT GENERATE? SO I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST M AND O.
1 CENT WILL GENERATE HOW MUCH? UH, FOUR WELL ADDITIONAL OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE OF 2.2 MILLION.
TWO POINT FOR THAT PIECE OF IT.
YES, FOR THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE.
AND SO THAT'S $10 PER HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, 30, $33 ANNUALLY.
BACK TO MY POINT, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE.
ALL THE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UH, THERE'S THERE'S NOT A WAY, UH, TO PAY FOR THOSE.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT THIS IS HELPFUL TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE REVENUE DOES IT GENERATE TO OPERATE AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO A TAX TAXPAYER? HOW SIGNIFICANT DON'T REVENUE RATE? NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT.
BUT, UH, IT'S GOTTA BE TALKED ABOUT.
THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT.
AS WE GO INTO THIS WEEK, I THINK EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ON THE TABLE.
I DON'T THINK WE WE'RE IN AN A DECISION MAKING MODE RIGHT HERE, BUT I MEAN CLEARLY THE, THE, THE IDEAL SITUATION IS TO CONTINUE THE PATH WE'VE DONE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THE NO NEW REVENUE IN WHICH NOW THAT IS GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.
AND, UM, IN FACT IT'S ALMOST JUST VIRTUALLY GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IS WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.
UM, SO, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A FEW KEY THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING A COURSE OF ACTION.
I THINK THESE ARE JUST FACTORS WE NEED TO REMEMBER.
NUMBER ONE, WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT NASTY I WORD
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YET, INFLATION.SO IF OUR TAXES THAT WE COLLECT DON'T KEEP UP WITH INFLATION, THEN THE COUNTY'S BUYING POWER AND OUR ABILITY TO PAY OUR EMPLOYEES A LIVING WAGE AND BUY IRON AND BUILD ROADS AND MAINTAIN BUILDINGS CONTINUES TO DECREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO INFLATION'S ONE THING, THE RATE OF GROWTH IS IMPACTFUL TO US BECAUSE A NEW CITIZEN COSTS US MORE FROM A COUNTY SERVICES PERSPECTIVE THAN AN EXISTING CITIZEN.
THAT'S THE LOAD ON INFRASTRUCTURE, ON ROADS AND BUILDINGS, ET CETERA.
THEN THE LAST THING THAT WE DO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE LEGISLATURE.
IT CERTAINLY HASN'T PASSED YET.
WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL NOVEMBER.
BUT THE LEGISLATURE IS PROPOSING SOME SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO THE REAL BEAR OF PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS SCHOOL TAXES.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE 16% OF PROPERTY TAXES FOR OUR TAXPAYERS SCHOOLS ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 65 TO 70%.
SO THAT, AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING A CERTAIN COURSE OF ACTION, BUT I THINK ALL THREE OF THOSE FACTORS NEED TO BE KEPT IN MIND INFLATION, SCHOOL TAX CUTS AND THEN ALSO THE UH, THE IMPACT THAT OUR RATE OF GROWTH HAS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CHALLENGES.
UNDER ON THE AGENDA, UNDER CAP, UNDER CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST UPDATES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, UH, ITEM TWO A IT PROJECTS AND BUDGET BUDGET REQUEST.
ARE WE PREPARED FOR THAT? I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT DOING THE 11 BY SEVENTEENS.
I REALIZED WHEN I LEFT MY OFFICE THAT THESE WERE TINY.
SO, SO WITH IT, WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU? SO THERE'S, THERE'S THIS PAGE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ORANGE IN THIS COLUMN IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON THURSDAY.
THIS PAGE THAT HAS SOME ORANGE IN THIS COLUMN IS SOME CHANGES THAT IT HAS MADE.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE GONE IN AND, AND, UM, JAMES FEELS THAT WE CAN CUT LIKE THE DESKTOPS REQUESTED IN HALF AND THE LAPTOPS REQUESTED IN HALF WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS NEEDING.
UM, AND IN TURN FOR THOSE, UM, THE COMPUTERS OR LAPTOPS THAT ARE CUT, ADD AN SS D D CARD ON EACH OF THOSE, UH, CURRENT DEVICES AND IT WOULD INCREASE THE MEMORY ON THOSE AND GET US THROUGH THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR, UM, BE ABLE TO REQUEST THREE THIS SHEET'S THE ONE THAT HE'S CUTTING.
AND HOPEFULLY WITH, WITH THAT ADDITION, THE, THE MEMORY CARDS AND THOSE, THOSE COMPUTERS WOULD LAST ANOTHER YEAR AND, AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO REPLACE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO WITH THAT, THE IS $142,000 REDUCTION.
SO WITH, WITH THOSE CHANGES, IT CUTS THE AMOUNTS REQUESTED THE OTHER DAY FROM 741,000 TO 595,845.
READ THAT AGAIN FROM SEVEN WHAT TO FROM 740 1004 30, YEAH, TO FIVE TO 5 5 95.
EIGHT 40 FIVE'S A TOTAL OF SAVINGS OF 140 2006 53 I MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS.
JAMES, YOU WANNA ADD ANY OF THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME YOU'VE GONE THROUGH AND AND QUALIFIED.
WHAT IS A NECESSITY AND WHAT IS THOSE THAT CAN BE DONE NEXT YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, AND I WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, UH, WE WILL, UH,
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MAINTAIN, UH, UPGRADE EVERYTHING WE CAN THEIR EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND PUSH REAL HARD, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR TO REPLACE THE ROMANIA.THOSE WE ALS I ALSO WORKED WITH, UH, OUR VENDOR ON THE NEW BUILDING WAS ABLE TO REDUCE, UH, ONE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF GONNA, UH, GIVE US UH, SOME OF THE ISSUES.
WE HAD THE PHONE SYSTEM, SO WE, WE, WE DROPPED ONE OF THE ITEMS OUT OF THAT FOR THE, THE PD BUILDING OR THE BUILDING ON SANTA FE.
SO THAT PRODUCTION ABOUT 23, 23 5, 23 5 FOR THE THAT BUILDING.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THAT.
SO BASICALLY FOR THE COMPUTERS THAT WE GET, THE SS S D CARDS, THE, THE SS S D CARDS ARE ABOUT $39, $40.
UM, SO IT'S QUITE A BIT OF A SAVINGS THERE.
ON ITEM, ANY OTHER BUDGET REQUESTS UNDER THE ITEM A, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM B ON CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR NOT CAP, NON CAP.
WELL, I'M JUST FOLLOWING THE AGENDA UNDER, UNDER, UH, WE'RE UNDER TWO.
SO DID YOU WANNA DISCUSS, GO STRAIGHT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? GO STRAIGHT TO WHAT? I'M SORRY.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EXPENSES? YES.
SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEIR TOTAL, UM, EXPENSES WITHOUT IT RELATED IS $1,853,777.
WITH IT IS 68,614 FOR A TOTAL OF $1,922,391.
DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH SPECIFIC OKAY, JUST OVERVIEW SOME OF THE, YEAH, SOME OF THE TOP LINE ON NEW KE KEY.
SO BEGINNING WITH, UM, DISPATCH, THEIR TOTAL REQUEST IS $3,040.
THAT'S FOR SOME CHAIRS AND HEADSET BATTERIES, REPLACEMENT HEADSETS, UM, SHERIFF ADMIN FOR ACCESS CONTROL FOR THE DOORS 24,898.
AND THE NEW HIRE UNIFORMS FOR A ANIMAL CONTROL COURTHOUSE SECURITY AND PATROL FOR A TOTAL OF 30,598 SS C U.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A HALF TON PICKUP FOR 48,000.
THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT IS 1260 CAMERA AND SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT IS 3000.
OFFICE CHAIRS OF 400 AND RING DOORBELL CAMERAS FOR 1200 FOR A TOTAL OF 53,860.
UM, C I D THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO CHEVROLET HALFTIME PICKUPS FOR 96,000 CRIME SCENE SUPPLIES FOR 3,500 CRIME SCENES EQUIPMENT FOR 3,700, AND THEN SOME CHAIRS FOR A TOTAL OF 104,262.
AND HERE'S THEIR LARGEST BUDGET IS THEIR PATROL DIVISION.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING 19 TAHOES FOR A TOTAL OF 930,545.
THE OUTFITTING FOR THOSE IS 23,000 EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 437,000 SWAT ENTRY VEST.
45,600 PATROL RATED, UH, RIFLE RATED SHIELDS FOR 22,000.
UM, PATROL JACKETS AND SOFT BODY ARMOR ARE TOTAL ABOUT 39,000, 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS.
10,800, UM, SOME CRADLE POINTS.
57,000 7 92 YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
UM, THE RADARS FOR 8,400 EXTINGUISHERS, 400 INCAR TRAUMA KITS FIVE 50 FOR A TOTAL OF 1.5 8 0 3 7 7.
UM, TRAINING HAS A TOTAL BUDGET OF 11,640 AND THAT INCLUDES TARGETS, 40 MILLIMETER TARGETS, SHOOTER TRAINING, MOUNTS, BOOKS AND PUBLICATIONS, ANIMAL CONTROL.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING ONE THREEQUARTER TON VEHICLE AT 52,000.
THE OUTFITTING OF THAT VEHICLE IS 14,000.
AND THEN OTHER EQUIPMENT AND, AND PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, UM, FOR 3000 FOR A TOTAL OF 69,000.
AND THEN CIVIL, UM, TRANSPORT AND FUGITIVE, UM, WITH A CONTINGENCY OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
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OKAY.ANY QUESTIONS? ANY BRIANNA WENT, WHAT'S THE LAST DATE ON THE NO, NEVER NO NEW REVENUE TAX THAT WE HAVE TO FILE BY.
SO, UM, WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED THAT IT WOULD BE VOTED ON NEXT MONDAY AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT TO THE FIRST COURT IN SEPTEMBER.
HOWEVER, IF WE ARE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, I WOULD SUGGEST MAKING TWEAKS TO THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND WE DON'T ADOPT THE RATE AT THAT TIME.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING THE RATE, YOU NEED TO BE ADOPTING YOUR BUDGET AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE ABOVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT YOUR RATE AT THAT MEETING, BUT YOU HAVE TO ADOPT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.
UM, SO WE WOULD WANT THE ADOPTION TO BE THE DAY THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, WHICH IS, I'M GONNA LOOK AT KIM'S COMPUTER.
I BELIEVE IT'S SEPTEMBER 25TH.
UM, SO WHAT COULD HAPPEN THEN AT THAT POINT? UM, IF WE'RE ABOVE THEN WE COULD TWEAK THE SCHEDULE WHERE, UM, IT WOULD BE VOTING ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.
UM, HAVE THE HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 18TH.
UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COURT.
SO YOU COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 18TH AND THEN THAT WOULD BE ADOPTING WITHIN THE SEVEN DAYS FROM THAT HEARING.
BECAUSE ALSO, UM, NOT ONLY MENTION THAT PART, NOT ONLY IS THERE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE AD IN THE NEWSPAPER, UM, THAT BASICALLY SAYS, HERE'S THE PROPOSED RATE, HERE'S THE, UM, VOTER APPROVAL RATE, HERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COURT IS VOTING ON, AND THEN WHAT'S THE TAX IMPLICATION FOR, UM, YOUR AVERAGE HOMESTEAD.
DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAPTAIN CAP AGAIN? LET'S GIVE IT A TOP LINE IF YOU WOULD.
SO COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR THE VEHICLE FOR 23,740.
UM, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE FIREPROOF SAFE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR 4,100.
UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES IS REQUESTING 22,763.
AND THAT'S FOR, UH, CONTINGENCY LINE FOR SMALL EQUIPMENT AND PORTABLE RADIO BATTERIES OF ABOUT $2,100.
UM, THE BENCH SEATING FOR THE COURT THAT WAS APPROVED WAS $33,094.
PROBATE BENCH SEATING FOR 34 50 SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR THE BAILIFF.
UM, FOR CCL TWO YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED FOR $2,733 COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UM, A VEHICLE FOR 52,479 OUTFITTINGS 3,100.
BED COVER IS 1,502 FILING CABINETS, 1800 CHAIRS SEVEN 50.
FILING CARTS 700 AND SEAT COVERS ARE 2000 FOR A TOTAL OF 62,329.
HOW SOFT IS THAT TOWEL THAT YOU'RE SITTING ON? IT'S PRETTY SOFT.
SO, UM, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S, UH, TOTAL BUDGET REQUEST IS $12,049.
INCLUDES SOME CONTINGENCIES, CHAIRS, FILING CABINETS, A DESK, TWO DESK WORK STATIONS, UM, AND THEN THE APPROXIMATELY $4,750 FOR A REPLACEMENT OF CHAIRS IN THE LOBBY AREA.
SO ELECTIONS IS REQUESTING A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR REPLACEMENT OF OFFICE CHAIRS,
UM, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED $385 FOR UH, CONTINGENCY LINES FOR OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND OFFICE FURNITURE TAX ASSESSOR HAS REQUESTED THREE DRAFTING CHAIRS TO REPLACE, UM, CURRENT ONES FOR 1480.
BILLING GROUNDS IS REQUESTING A HALF-TON CHEVROLET OR TWO HALF-TON CHEVROLETS.
UM, SMALL TOOLS, CONTINGENCY GROUNDS, EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY AND HVAC EQUIPMENT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL OF 2 11 720 FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
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MOTORIZED PROJECTOR SCREEN.UM, BUT THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IS 129,647 REMAINING.
AND THAT'S FOR SMALL TOOLS CONTINGENCY, UH, VEHICLE WITH OUTFITTING OF 96,000, UH, BURN BAND TRAINING UNIT RADIO EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH OF 129,647.
CONSTABLE ONE IS REQUESTING $5,000 WORTH OF CONTINGENCY FOR AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT.
UH, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THIS ALREADY, RIGHT? WHY DON'T WE WAIT TILL MONDAY AND SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DROP SOME OF THIS STUFF.
I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE SEND THE WORD OUT TO, UH, EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND ASK WHAT THEY, UH, ASK IF THEY PRIORITIZE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED.
AND, UH, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LIST INSTEAD OF US JUST SAYING, HERE'S THE LINE RIGHT HERE.
UH, GO TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, GO BACK TO YOUR REQUEST AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU, UH, WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, PAY FOR IN THIS, THIS BUDGET YEAR RATHER THAN NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
AND THEN COME BACK TO US WITH YOUR, UH, ITEMS THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE.
AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS, BY THE WAY.
UH, THAT WE ASK THEM TO GO BACK AND, AND, AND LOOK AT, UH, MAKING, UH, REDUCTIONS RATHER THAN, UH, THE COURT HAVING TO DO THAT FOR THEM.
THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
IF WE COULD SEND THAT OUT AS A MEMO TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS JUDGE TO, UH, GO BACK AND TELL US WHAT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE AND PRIORITIZE YOUR LIST OF REQUESTS.
I, I REQUEST THAT THE, THE RESPONSES IN THOSE CHANGES BE, UM, I'D BE COPIED ON THAT SO I CAN UPDATE THE CAP.
SO IS THERE ANY CAUSE TO GO THROUGH PRECINCT REQUEST BY, I THINK AT THIS POINT, UH, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS THAT, UM, GIVEN THAT DIRECTION THAT, UH, HAS BEEN PRESENTED, THAT WE'LL GET THAT OUT TODAY AND, UM, UH, COME BACK AND THEN REPRESENT THIS WITH THE UPDATED INFORMATION FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THE COURT.
SO NO NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT IF WE'RE GONNA, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND GET THAT EMAIL SENT OUT.
WHAT, WHAT I SUGGEST TOO IS THAT WE, UH, THAT THE SB 22 MONEY THAT WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, SOME COMING TO COUNTY ATTORNEY, SOME TO DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND SOME TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE, YOU LET US KNOW HOW YOU WOULD UTILIZE THOSE THAT, UH, I KNOW YOU'VE ASKED FOR FIVE PATROL POSITIONS.
UH, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MONEY WORK TOWARD THAT END? UH, UH, THINGS LIKE, AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE, UH, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED EVERYWHERE, BUT, UH, HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THAT AND HOW CAN WE OFFSET THAT AND, UH, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT YOU HAVE IN HERE, SO, SO WE CAN GET THE MOST, MOST, UH, FOR YOU THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SAME THING WITH THE, THE DIS DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
HOW THEY WOULD, HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THEIR REQUEST THAT'S IN THE BUDGET AND HOW WE COULD MANAGE TO, TO LOWER THEIR REQUEST BY UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS.
WELL, WE DON'T WANT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T WANT Y'ALL TAKING OUT STUFF THAT, THAT YOU NEED FOR SAFETY REASONS TO PROTECT YOUR DEPUTIES.
WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO PRIORITIZE.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE, WE CAN'T MAKE A A, AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHAT YOU NEED THE MOST.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
WITH THAT DIRECTION, WHY DON'T WE THEN DEFER OFF OR DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE HUMAN SERVICES BUDGET, UH, ON THOSE REQUESTS? UH, THOSE ARE NON OR EXTERNAL.
UM, BRIANA, YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO GIVE ON THAT? WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER IT.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT INFORMATION.
SO WHY DON'T WE GO TO ITEM FOUR UNLESS THERE'S ANY SPECIFICS ON THOSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? UH, WE'LL GO TO ITEM FOUR ON SOARIES AND BENEFITS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTEN INFORMATION WET, NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
SO I, AS WE GO DOWN THIS LIST,
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Y'ALL WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND WAIT AND THEN GET THE INFORMATION UPDATED AND THEN PROCEED? THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.THEN AT THAT POINT I WOULD, I'M SORRY.
NO, UH, AT THAT POINT THEN I WOULD GO TO ITEM THREE.
UH, COUNCILOR WANTS SOMETHING WE'RE WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO WAIT ON THAT TOO, I THINK UNLESS HAS TO BE TODAY.
AND JUST TO, JUST TO REMIND THE COURT ALSO THAT THE J J A E P, WHICH IS JUVENILE JUSTICE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SERVICES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PROVIDED THIS YEAR.
UH, SO JUST WANT THE COURT TO BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THERE WAS AND ROUGHLY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA COST.
THEY WERE WORKING ON BUDGET, SO THAT WAS GONNA BE SUBMITTED IN.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE COSTS WILL BE, BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER, ANOTHER ITEM THAT PROBABLY WILL HIT OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR POINT WELL TAKEN.
THE, THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WE, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, SOME COSTS WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT ARE NOT HERE YET.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOME SALARIES OF SOME APPOINTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE GONNA COME FROM, UH, PURCHASING BOARD FROM THE, UH, AUDITOR.
AND WE, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET AS WELL.
I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHILE WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT ELECTED OF OFFICIAL SALARIES.
SO WE HAVE IT, UM, ON THE CALENDAR TO VOTE ON THE PROPOSED SALARIES ON MONDAY.
UM, AND THEN THOSE NOTICES WOULD GO OUT TO ELECTED OFFICIALS ON TUESDAY.
UM, AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE WAS A GRIEVANCE FILED, IT'S TO ALLOW TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SET ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FOR THE COURT TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT METHOD WOULD BE USED AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND ALSO SCHEDULING THAT MEETING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THAT.
ANYTHING FURTHER? ANYTHING ELSE? ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COURT? I'D MOVE ITEM THREE UNDER ADJOURNMENT.
UM, SO WE WILL HAVE, UH, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET MOVED TO, WE'RE WORKING EITHER SEPTEMBER 1ST OR SECOND.
SO IT'S TO SEPTEMBER 2ND AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SEPTEMBER 1ST.
WHAT IS SEPTEMBER 1ST AGAIN? IT WILL BE THE, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING FY 2024, PROPOSED BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT WILL BE A MEETING THAT WE HAVE, CORRECT.
I'M, I'M IN TRAINING AT, I'M OUT OF TOWN ON THE FIRST, THE AD WASN'T FILED ON TIME AND SO I HAD ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE AD THIS MORNING AND SO YOU HAVE TO HOLD YOUR PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET HEARING WITHIN 25 DAYS OF THAT BUDGET BEING FILED.
AND THEN THE AD HAS TO RUN AT LEAST 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
AND SO I ASKED FOR A COPY OF THAT THIS MORNING, UM, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IN LAST TUESDAY'S BUDGET AND IT WAS NOT FILED.
SO THAT MEANS THAT CHANGES THE DATE.
SO THE LAST DAY, IF IT GOES IN IN THE NEWSPAPER TOMORROW, THEN IT'S 10 DAYS.
AND SO THE EARLIEST YOU COULD HAVE IT IS FRIDAY, WHICH IS THE LAST DAY THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IT.
AS LONG AS THERE IS I THINK A QUORUM.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO VOTING ON IT, IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, THAT'S WHAT BRIANNA WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH WAS THE TAX RATE.
AND THAT DATE IS ON THAT ONE? WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE ORIGINALLY WERE GONNA HAVE IT FOR MONDAY'S COURT.
BUT IF WE'RE DISCUSSING ADJUSTING THE RATE, THEN I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THE FIRST COURT IN UM, SEPTEMBER TO VOTE ON IT.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE ON THE DAYS THIS WEEK, BUT UM, THAT ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THE PUBLICATION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT, UM, POSTED CONTINUOUSLY ON YOUR WEBSITE.
I THINK IT'S FIVE DAYS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT RAN IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR FIVE DAYS.
SO THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE 10 DAY, BUT WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
SO THEN YOU COULD VOTE ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, HAVE THE HEARING, SEPTEMBER 18TH, AND THEN DO THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE ON THE BUDGET ON THE 25TH.
UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE JUST ONE MORE COMMENT 'CAUSE I DO THINK THIS BEARS REPEATING.
IN 2018, THE POP, THE POPULATION OF PARKER COUNTY WAS APPROXIMATELY 138,000
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PER THE US CENSUS.THE CURRENT ESTIMATE IS 172,000 BASED ON THE US CENSUS.GOV WEBSITE.
LAST YEAR THEY THINK WE WERE AT 2022.
THE TEXAS C P I BASED INFLATION RATE SAYS THAT $2,018 NOW ARE WORTH $1 IN 2018 IS NOW WORTH ABOUT 82 CENTS TODAY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE, OUR DOLLAR IS GETTING WEAKER IN TEXAS BECAUSE OF INFLATION.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING INTO PARKER COUNTY, WHICH COSTS A LOT OF MONEY.
WE HAVE A POPULATION THAT BECAUSE OF THAT IS OBVIOUSLY GROWING QUITE A BIT.
I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE THINGS HEAVILY IN MIND THAT IF WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION IN TERMS OF OUR TAX LEVY, THEN THE COUNTY'S BUYING POWER IS GOING TO DECREASE MORE AND MORE AND MORE OVER TIME.
WHAT THAT'S GONNA GENERATE IS A SITUATION WHERE WE EITHER SIMPLY CANNOT PAY OUR EMPLOYEES WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
WE CAN'T MAINTAIN OUR EQUIPMENT OR HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT KEEPS OUR ROADS SAFE, OUR BUILDINGS SAFE, ET CETERA, WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SO I AGREE WITH EVERYONE HERE THAT WE'RE IN A NEW REALITY, ESPECIALLY WITH INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, WHERE CITIES WILL NOT BE TAKING OVER SOME OF THESE NEWER HIGHER DENSITY SUBDIVISIONS.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE US TO STAY AWAY FROM, WELL WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN YEARS PAST.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT IN YEARS PAST.
AND I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THAT.
I'M NOT POINTING ANY FINGERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE INFLATION'S HIGH GROWTH IS HIGH.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM THREE? UM, I'M BEING A LITTLE DELICATE HERE, BUT IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT, UM, ON ANY COMMENTS I KNOW, UM, ITEM TWO B IS ROAD AND BRIDGE.
IS THERE ANY, WE WANNA DEFER THAT OFF AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT WANTS TO BE TODAY OR WE WANTED DEFER THAT OFF IN OUR FUTURE AJO AGENDA ITEM AS WELL? I THINK WE CAN DEFER IT TO, UH, MONDAY IF THAT AIN'T A PROBLEM.
I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR, THE RECORD SHOW WE'LL ADJOURN AT 9 57.