Aug 28, 2023 Commissioners Court

ITEM FIVE A UNDER THE PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY BUILDERS AWARD BY REX ON BEHALF OF PHOENIX MASONIC LODGE 2 7 5.

UH, I WANNA MOVE DOWN TO UNDER

[5.A. Presentation of the Community Builder Award by Rex Sallade on behalf of Phoenix Masonic Lodge #275. (Rex Sallade / Judge Deen)]

UM, MR. HALE, IF YOU WOULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM, I'D LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL OFFICIALS, AND I'LL LET THEM IDENTIFY THEMSELVES HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

AND, UH, I DO WANNA SAY, UH, A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER IS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE 17 YEARS AND THE IMPACT THAT YOU'VE MADE IN, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL BECAUSE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OUR COMMUNITY IS VETERANS.

AND THE CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU'VE MADE TO THIS COMMUNITY, UH, HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED AND HAS BEEN WELL RECOGNIZED.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS TURN THIS OVER TO, UH, SOME INDIVIDUALS.

AND I, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UH, TRY.

IF I DIDN'T DO THIS, I WOULD'VE NEVER GOT YOU HERE.

BUT, UH, IT IS NOT A BUDGET ITEM.

IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

AND SO, UH, IF I WOULDN'T, TO TURN THIS OVER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UM, MR. HALE, TODAY I AM, UH, REX SALLY.

I'M THE MASTER OF PHOENIX LODGE.

A COUPLE MINUTES UP THE ROAD.

AND WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF MASONS HERE WITH US TODAY.

A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE, UH, MASONS.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE COMMUNITY BUILDING REPORT, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST AWARD THAT MASONS CAN AWARD TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A MASON.

AND I HAD NEVER MET YOU.

AND, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOMEONE WHO WAS WORTHY OF BEING GIVEN THIS AWARD IN THE LODGE, I WAS AMAZED AT THE ENTHUSIASM OF THE MEN IN THE LIVES WHO ARE VETERANS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS IN THE LIVES AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE, UH, DIMENSION OF YOUR NAME.

THEY WERE ALL VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND, AND COULDN'T THINK OF ANYONE POSSIBLY MORE, MORE WORTHY OF RECEIVING THIS AWARD.

THE MASONS, UM, YOU MIGHT NOTICE WE'RE ALL WEARING APRONS.

YEAH, SURE.

THAT'S TO REMIND US TO BE GOOD MEN.

AND THAT MEANS TO MAKE EACH OTHER BETTER AND TO HELP IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND THIS AWARD IS TO REPRESENT SOMEONE WHO, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT A MASON, REPRESENT THOSE SAME VALUES THAT WE TRY TO PRACTICE AS MASONS.

AND I'M VERY PROUD TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD AND TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY

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AND TO OUR VETERANS.

AND WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE.

OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WHERE IS THAT? I WANT TO SHAKE TWO HANDS OVER HERE IF I MIGHT.

GENTLEMEN, WHO'S BEEN IN MY OFFICE MEETING.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

I CAME HERE WITH SOMETHING ELSE IN MIND TO TALK ABOUT .

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE A MAN THAT'LL FIT.

I'M PUT THAT IN MY POCKET BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS IT.

, HE'S, IT'S UP TO THE COURT.

WHATEVER.

WOULD IT BE BETTER IF WE COME OUT THERE ? YEAH.

WOULD ALL THE MASONS ALSO COME UP? THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE SEATS AVAILABLE WHEN WE NOT AT ALL.

YOU'VE BEEN SUCH A GREAT BLESSING TO THE COMMUNITY.

GET, GET EVERYBODY ALL THIS.

I NEED A STEP LADDER, BUT SINCE I DON'T, Y'ALL, Y'ALL.

OH MY GOODNESS.

OKAY, WE'LL TAKE TWO PICTURES.

1, 2, 3.

AND CARING INDIVIDUAL, ESPECIALLY FOR VETERANS THAN JOHN HALE.

CONGRATULATIONS JOHN .

CONGRATULATIONS.

WE'LL GIVE SOME SEATS.

YOU SEE, JOHN, YOU SEE I GOT IT.

UM, NOT THAT I SAW STAND UP HERE.

AIN'T DONE.

OH, WE'RE NOT FINISHED.

DONE.

ALRIGHT, BECAUSE I'M GONNA GO TO, I'M GONNA GO, LEMME GET UP HERE SO I CAN LEAN ON THIS.

HE SAID I WASN'T THROUGH.

I'M SORRY, JUDGE.

WHAT, WHAT NUMBER WAS THAT, JOHN? UH, NUMBER Y I THINK JOHN, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO THE COURT OUR CURRENT COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 1 63.

HE HAS A FEW CHOICE WORKS TO MAKE THAT DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, MR HA, I HAVE ONLY BEEN A MEMBER OF THE LEGION HERE FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS, BUT I HAVE KNOWN THIS MAN SINCE DAY ONE.

WHEN HE GOES TO WORK, GETS IN HIS OFFICE, IT'S LIKE THAT HURRICANE COMING IN ON FLORIDA.

IT'S ALL BIG BUSINESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.

THE MAN'S GOT A MIND.

HE CAN REMEMBER THESE FORMS THAT THEY PASSED DOWN YEARS AGO.

UH, IT'S JUST REMARKABLE HOW MANY VETERANS HE HAS HELPED IN THE PAST CIVIL YEARS SINCE HE'S BEEN IN THIS OFFICE.

AND I'M PROUD TO CALL HIM MY FRIEND AND A FELLOW LEGIONNAIRE.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

RON, THANK YOU.

SOMETHING I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY TOO.

UHOH, I USUALLY DO, I'VE KNOWN JOHN FOR ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME THAT, UH, THE COURT HAS AS QUITE A FEW YEARS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM OFF AND ON NOW FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AS A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER MYSELF AND AS, AS A PERSON IN, IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS, I HAVE NEVER MET A MORE SOUND

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OH GOODNESS.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO IN THE AMERICAN LEGION IS SUPPORT OUR VETERANS.

AND WE, IF WE WERE TO HAVE A STANDARD BEARER THAT WOULD CARRY THAT FORWARD, THAT MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT I KNOW OF IN THE 37 YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VETERANS, JOHN, HELL BE THE GUY I WOULD PICK FOR THAT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS CONGRATULATE JOHN AND, UH, HAVE HIM RECOGNIZED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HE IS.

'CAUSE I SEE HIM BEHIND THE SCENES.

YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS MAN IN ANY CAPACITY.

Y UH, WHICH WAS COMBINED ARMS PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH PARKER COUNTY VETERANS SERVICES OFFICE.

AND ALL WE CAN DO IS SAY THANK YOU, JOHN, AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

JUDGE, ALL I DO IS MY JOB.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY DOESN'T DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M DOING TO BE HONORED BY THE MASONIC LODGE.

IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE THING.

THIS YOUNG MAN RIGHT OVER HERE HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

AND I DO APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.

AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. FORREST IS READY FOR ME OR NOT, OR WERE WE GONNA MOVE? I HAD JUST THE ONE THING AND I'LL BE THROUGH.

WELL AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS FIRST AND, UH, WE'LL, YOU DO HAVE ONE THING.

WE'LL GO TO THAT, UM, TO GET YOU TAKEN CARE OF, UH, WHICH WOULD BE SEVEN

[7.Y. Combined Arms Participation Agreement with Parker County Veteran Services Office and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

AND TAKE ANY ACTION THE COURT DEEMS NECESSARY, JOHN, IF YOU WOULD.

AND, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO GET EXECUTED AND ALL GO.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR RESOURCES FOR THE VETERANS.

AND I COME ACROSS COMBINED ARMS. THE LADY CAME TO THE OFFICE AND MADE A PRESENTATION.

THEN SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO DO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

AND I TOLD HER THAT I CANNOT DO THAT.

I'M AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL.

I CAN'T SAY WHAT THE COUNTY'S GOING TO DO TO SEND ME A COPY OF IT.

INSTEAD SHE SENT IT TO YOU.

YOU SENT IT BACK TO ME AND I FORWARDED TO MR. FORESTS TO LOOK IT OVER.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE LANGUAGE IN THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

AND, AND WILL YOU EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT SHE SAID THE SERVICES WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE TO PARKER COUNTY? WELL, MOSTLY COUNSELING SERVICE, BUT WHAT I'M AFTER IS CASH, RESOURCES, RENT, HOME PAYMENTS, GROCERIES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT IT'S, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GIVE ME YOUR OPINION.

SHOULD WE DO THIS OR NOT? AND, AND HAVING LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL OBLIGATION ON THE COUNTY'S PART.

SO, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

WE'LL PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND GET THAT EXECUTED IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT, JUDGE.

WE GOT A MAN OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF, I'M ASSUMING.

COME, COME ON UP, YOUR HONOR.

MAY I HAVE A SHORT CAVEAT, LIKE 30 SECONDS? UH, COME ON NOW.

JOHN'S AWARD, I DID THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO KNOW TO SUBMIT THIS AWARD.

DURING THAT TIME, HE EXPRESSED TO ME THAT HE HAD 18,900 PEOPLE THAT HE HELPED.

AND I KNOW THAT'S WRONG 'CAUSE WE FOUGHT TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS TO GET MY DISABILITY.

ULTIMATELY, HE HAD TO DO ME TWICE.

WE RESUBMITTED EVERYTHING AGAIN AFTER TWO YEARS AND IT FINALLY CAME THROUGH.

SO THAT'S THE CAVEAT I WANTED TO EXPRESS.

I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT MORE LIKE ME THAT HE WENT THE EXTRA MILE AND MORE.

SO AGAIN, JOHN, FOR ALL OF US OUT HERE THAT HAVE USED, USED YOUR SERVICES AND WE LOVE YOU AND YOU DESERVE SO MUCH MORE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

I'LL, GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINT OF THIS AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL TO GO TO PLATTING, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO ONE

[10.B. PRECINCT 2 (Part 1 of 4)]

PLAT, UH, BEFORE WE GET BACK TO THE AGENDA.

UNDER ITEM B ONE, UH, THERE'S APPROVAL TO SIGN AN ORDER ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE WEST AVENUE IN PRECINCT TWO, PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE CHAPTER 2 5 1, AND IN FILE WITH A COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND TAKE ANY ACTION COURT DEEMS NECESSARY.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER OPEN A REQUEST FROM A BEFORE I GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, JUST TO OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

QUICKLY, OR DO I NEED TO READ THE LETTER OR CAN WE JUST ACCEPT IT AS WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE PROTESTS BOTH FROM THE CHURCH OF CHRIST THERE AND THEN ALSO FROM SEVERAL LOCAL RESIDENTS.

THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS TO CLOSE A VERY SMALL PORTION OF A ROAD IN APPROVAL.

THE, UH, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY EXPRESSED TO THEIR CONCERNS.

I'M GONNA READ ONE LETTER VERY

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JUST NAME THE INDIVIDUAL.

SO A MS. SARAH GERMAN ON BAGOT AVENUE PROTESTED ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER INDIVIDUALS, IF YOU WANNA READ THOSE.

AND, UH, FROM THE PAULVILLE CHURCH OF CHRIST, JULIO SEGURA, DWAYNE SPRADLIN, BENJAMIN HY, AND I THINK LANCE SPRADLIN IS ANOTHER.

CORY PIPER, CHAD BRIEF.

YOU.

AND THESE ARE NOT PRINTED, THESE ARE IN CURSIVE, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ THESE NAMES AND FEEL FAR FARRIER.

AND SO WE HAD MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT PROTESTED, UH, THE ABANDONMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR ROAD, WHICH WOULD PREVENT US AS A COUNTY FROM DOING SO.

SO THEREFORE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ABANDONMENT.

DO Y'ALL HAVE THE RESOLUTION THAT I PASSED THAT WAY? I DO, YEAH.

I'M ABOUT TO SIGN IT.

I I HAVEN'T SIGNED IT YET.

PLEASE SIGN IT.

YEAH, I'M, YEAH.

SO TAKING NO ACTION ON THIS, WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT ITEM.

I VOTE CORRECT.

I TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT.

DO YOU STILL, DO THE PUBLIC STILL HAVE TO VOTE? THEN? I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION AND WE DO NOT CLOSE THAT ROAD HERE.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRES AN ACTION.

JUST SAY NO ACTION.

MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER WALTERS MADE THE SECONDARY OF THE DISCUSSION.

DID WE HOLD? WE DIDN'T DO, WE DIDN'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT? I'M SORRY.

I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

UH, ON ITEM B ONE, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? OKAY.

THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPEN AT NINE 15 AND WE'LL CLOSE AT NINE 15 AND, UH, WE WILL GO TO THE MOTION THAT IS AT HAND.

UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, PAUL, IN EVER PASS? FIVE.

OH, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA JUST MOVE, LET'S MOVE TO SEVEN

[7.A. Proclaim August 31st, 2023 as Overdose Awareness Day in Parker County. (Jessica Castro / Judge Deen)]

SEVEN A ON PROCLAIM.

AUGUST 31ST, 2023 IS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY IN PARKER COUNTY.

WE HAVE JESSICA CASTRO, IF YOU WOULD COME UP.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

WE'RE STARTING YOUR RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU WOULD JUST, I PROCEED.

THEY SAY, I HAVE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO I WROTE THEM DOWN SO I'M NOT NERVOUS AND A MUMBLING IDIOT.

IN 2019, WE LOST OUR OLDEST SON TO OVERDOSE.

DURING THAT GRIEF, IT BECAME OUR MISSION TO HELP OTHERS WHO HAVE LOST SOMEONE TO OVERDOSE, TO REALIZE THEY'RE NOT ALONE, THAT MANY OF US UNDERSTAND THEIR GRIEF.

AND TO ALSO SPREAD A MESSAGE, UH, TO THE ONES WHO ARE STRUGGLING OR EVEN IN RECOVERY, TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE LOVED AND VALUED RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE GOAL.

THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOVED NO MATTER WHAT THEIR SITUATION IS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND ACTUALLY, BY YOU ALL, UM, ALLOWING US TO BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND APPROVING THIS DAY AS OVER OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY, IT BRINGS THAT MESSAGE TO MANY, MANY MORE THAN WE CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, SIR? OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR THIS.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS MADE THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER HOLDS, MADE THE SECOND, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL YES, SIR.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S SAVING LIVES.

THEY'RE MAKING DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.

UH, I BELIEVE Y'ALL SELL T-SHIRTS.

WE DO.

SO I JUST WANNA SHOW THE T-SHIRTS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE AND, UH, THAT SHOULD ALL PERCH ONE OF THESE.

AND YES, WEAR IT PROUDLY BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND IT'S GREAT APPRECIATED.

EACH YEAR, NEARLY 5,000 TEXANS LOSE THEIR LIVES TO DRUG OVERDOSE, WHEREAS THE RISING PREVALENCE OF HEROIN IN OUR REGION IN THE LAST DECADE, AND FENTANYL IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, HAS EXACERBATED THE PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID.

WE HAVE, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, UH, I DO HAVE A RESOLUTION, A PROCLAMATION, ACTUALLY ON THE OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY.

WHEREAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ON AUGUST 31ST EACH YEAR TO RAISE AWARENESS OF DRUG OVERDOSE, REDUCE THE STIGMA OF DRUG RELATED DEATHS, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE GRIEF FELT BY FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, REMEMBERING THOSE WHO HAVE DIED OR HAD A PERMANENT INJURY AS A RESULT OF DRUG OVERDOSE.

WHEREAS

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ANDS IMPORTANT WAY TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE DANGERS OF THE DRUG ABUSE AND THE IMPACT DRUG OVERDOSE THAT HAS ON THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE DECEASED, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND ADDICTION TOUCHES PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AS FAR AS RACE, RELIGION, EDUCATION, SOCIAL CLASS.

PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE HAVE SUFFERED FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR KNOWN SOMEONE WHO HAS.

AND WHEREAS THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MOTHERS, FATHERS, BROTHERS AND FRIENDS TO MANY IS UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE STRIDES, TO REDUCE THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TO BRING ABOUT EDUCATION AND HEALING.

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT PARKER COUNTY DOES HERE, PROPER PROCLAIM.

THE 31ST DAY OF AUGUST, 2023 IS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY IN PARKER COUNTY, AND CALLS UPON THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR CITIZEN.

SO PROCLAIM THE 20TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2023.

UH, IF Y'ALL WOULD, IF Y'ALL WOULD COME UP, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A PICTURE WITH YOU AS WELL.

WE COMMENT WHAT WE JUST DID.

WE, OKAY.

SO IS THERE A, UM, MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.

OH, UH, COMMISSIONER, YOU SAID THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THE PRIOR ISSUE WITH, UH, THE VILLE ROAD.

UM, PASTOR, GOING BACK TO, SO WE'RE, OH, WE, WE REOPENED

[10.B. PRECINCT 2 (Part 2 of 4)]

MY NAME IS HOWARD MCCLUE, AND I LIVE IN THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD IN 19 19 4 BEND LANE.

UH, THAT IS NOT PRECINCT TWO, BUT I HAVE AN INTEREST IN PRECINCT TWO BECAUSE I ATTEND CHURCH THERE AT THE GLOBAL METHODIST CHURCH.

AND AS A COUNTY HAS, UH, GROWN, WE HAVE, UH, DEVELOPED, UH, AT LEAST IN MY OBSERVATION, SOME SIGNIFICANT, UH, TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I KNOW IT'S ALSO, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE REQUEST TO CLOSE, UH, WEST STREET, UH, UH, WILL BE DECLINED.

BUT THE ISSUE GOES BEYOND THAT CLOSURE AS, AS THE COUNTY GROWS, UH, TRANSIENT TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE WILL HEIGHT BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF OUR CHURCH, UH, POOL, GLOBAL METHODIST CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, AND THE PARSONS THERE.

UH, THE TRANSIENT TRAFFIC IS GOING THROUGH THERE AT, UH, 2025 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH IN MY VIEW, CREATES A RISK FOR PEDESTRIANS.

UH, ALSO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEONE, UH, BEING SEVERELY INJURED OR KILLED.

UH, FRIDAY WHEN I WAS OUT AT THE CHURCH WORKING OUTSIDE, I HEARD A NOISE.

IT WAS A A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK GOING BETWEEN THE WHEEL HEIGHT BUILDINGS AT ABOUT

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20 MILES AN HOUR.

AND AS THEY PASSED THE BUILDINGS, THEY ACCELERATED AND KIND OF SPUN AROUND THE CORNER IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE MY OBSERVATIONS AND CONCERNS PART, PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS WHO USE THAT AREA.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COURT TO ALLOW ME TO DO THAT.

YOU ALL HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE DOWN

[7.P. Discuss/Take action on Resolution of the Parker County Juvenile Board regarding juvenile facilities. (Judge Deen)]

TO IP ON DISCUSSION.

TAKE ACTION ON RESOLUTION OF THE PARKER COUNTY JUVENILE BOARD REGARDING JUVENILE FACILITIES.

UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE BOTH DISTRICT JUDGES HERE, UM, ON THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW, UH, OTHER REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR OF JUVENILE SERVICES, IF Y'ALL WOULD COME FORWARD.

UM, UH, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UM, I'M GRAHAM QUISENBERRY AND I'M THE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKER COUNTY JUVENILE BOARD.

UM, ALL OF US ARE, ARE AWARE OF THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND, AND SO FACILITIES IS AN ISSUE, AND THUS THAT RESOLUTION IS SUBMITTED AND, UH, WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY MOVE AHEAD ON HAVING A LOCATION FOR OUR JUVENILE SERVICES.

THAT LOCATION NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHAT FREESTANDING, INDEPENDENT OF ADULT SERVICES BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF JUVENILE SERVICES.

AND SO THEREFORE IT SHOULD BE IN A DEDICATED FACILITY WHERE WE CAN, UH, BE, UH, SAFE FOR THE JUVENILES AND, UH, NOT HAVE ANY, UH, INTRUSIONS FROM THE OUTSIDE, SO TO SPEAK.

WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE DO FOR THESE JUVENILES.

ALSO IN THE JUVENILE SERVICES, YOU DO HAVE AN ELEMENT OF, UH, CONFIDENTIALITY THAT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT TO, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ALSO.

SO, UH, WE, UH, PASS THIS RESOLUTION WITH THAT, WITH ALL THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

AND, UH, WE, UH, WERE MADE AWARE OF THE COUNTY'S INTEREST IN THE WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT FACILITY ON SANTA FE.

AND FRANKLY, WE DEEMED THAT TO BE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WITH REGARD TO JUVENILE SERVICES AND TO HAVE THAT AS THE LOCATION FOR JUVENILE SERVICES IN PARKER COUNTY.

UH, WE ARE AWARE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S THERE.

WE'RE AWARE OF THE LAYOUT OF THE FACILITY, WE'RE AWARE OF ITS RELATIVE SECLUSION FROM OTHER THINGS AROUND IT, WHICH MAKES IT A GOOD CHOICE FOR THAT.

OUR CHIEF JUVENILE OFFICER TOURED THE FACILITY, UH, FEELS, UH, GOOD ABOUT ITS APPROPRIATENESS FOR WHAT WE DO WITH JUVENILE SERVICES.

AND ALSO THERE WOULD BE SPACE FOR GROWTH CONSIDERING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT BUILDING AS WELL AS, UH, A POINT IN TIME IF THERE IS A DEDICATION OF ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL EXCLUSIVELY TO THE JUVENILE SERVICES.

AND SO THERE WOULD BE OFFICE SPACE FOR THOSE FOLKS.

ALSO, IT COULD ALSO, UH, IN THE INTERIM ACT AS, UM, A LOCATION IN GENERAL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE THERE IF, IF THEY NEED OFFICES, UH, ADDITIONALLY IN THE COUNTY.

AND SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, WE, WE THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

NOW I'M ADDRESSING ONLY THE FACILITY THAT THAT'S COVERED BY THE RESOLUTION.

AND THEN I ANTICIPATE WE WILL TALK THIS MORNING ALSO ABOUT, UH, OUR REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE, UH, JUVENILE JUSTICE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION IN WHICH I CAN ADDRESS THAT ALSO.

ANY OTHER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? PARDON ME? IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? AND WE'RE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE ALL THE BOARD HERE EXCEPT FOR JUDGE JOHNSON, AND WE HAVE OUR CHIEF OFFICER HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT RESOLUTION.

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SO WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE COVERED HERE IS SPECIFICALLY THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE FACILITY.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER NEEDS OBVIOUSLY, UH, BEING ON THAT BOARD.

UM, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, I THINK WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS, I THINK OTHER THAN JUDGE MARTIN, UH, WHO JUST CAME ON THAT BOARD AND WAS NOT AWARE OF SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THIS WAS NOT MADE PRIVY TO US.

AND I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AT THE TIME.

AND SO THIS HAS NOW BEEN PUT ON THE COURT AND, AND NOW INTRODUCE TO THEM FOR RELATIVELY, FAIRLY QUICKLY.

UM, SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS.

WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY DO THIS IN THE VACUUM.

IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME DISCUSSION AND, UH, WHETHER WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT TODAY, I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

BUT, UH, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FURTHER ON IT.

BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, AND, AND, UH, WITH THE COURT'S PERMISSION IS TO HAVE THIS PUT BACK ON HERE AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION, EVEN A SPECIAL COURT SESSION, TO DISCUSS THIS VERY IN DEPTH, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND SO, UH, THE REQUIREMENT, I COMMEND THE DIRECTOR, UH, ASHLEY, UH, APPROPRIATELY PRESENTED THIS TO US AND GIVEN US WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENT ONCE THAT TRIGGER WAS, A POPULATION WAS HIT, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, AND HAS NOW BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND, AND WE'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE WITH YOU COMING FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION JUDGE.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS AND IS TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY, BUT THE COURT HAS TO ABSORB THIS AND TRY TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS, UH, BEFORE WE, WE CAN START DOING THIS AND MAKING DECISIONS THIS QUICK.

UH, SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS EITHER WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, JOINT MEETING, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THIS SOLVED HERE TODAY TO, TO WHAT YOUR RESOLUTION IS ASKING.

UM, IF I MAY ADDRESS THE COURT FURTHER.

YES, PLEASE.

UM, WELL, MY INITIAL COMMENTS ARE ABOUT THE FACILITY, UH, WHICH IS CERTAINLY A BUDGETARY CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A PHYSICAL PLANT.

AND THE PHYSICAL PLANT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UM, IS NOT ALL THAT NICE TO BE QUITE FRANK.

AND, UH, WE'RE ALL AWARE OF OUR GROWTH AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE.

IN LIGHT OF YOUR COMMENTS, JUDGE, WITH RESPECT TO THE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION, THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE NECESSITY FOR THE COUNTY TO BUDGET.

AND SO WE ARE WITHIN THE REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION FOR JUVENILES.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUT ON THE COUNTIES TO DO.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE IN THE MATTER UNDER THE STATUTE.

AND SO THAT IS REALLY A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE FACILITIES BECAUSE, UH, THE NEED TO GET THAT ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM GOING IS IMMEDIATE AND MUST BE DONE NOW.

UH, AND WE ARE IN CORRESPONDENCE SOMEWHAT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THAT.

WE HAVE STUDIES MADE BY OUR CHIEF OFFICER OF OTHER COUNTIES WHO DID THIS.

WE'RE TRYING NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL ON THAT.

AND, UM, WE ARE DEDICATING A LOT OF ENERGY TO THAT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IN DOING IT.

AND SO OUR PRIMARY REASON FOR APPEARING TODAY, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IS TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE IMMEDIATE BUDGETARY NEED FOR THE EDUCATION PART.

AND NOW WE'D LIKE TO, TO GET THE FACILITY ALSO, BUT THE EDUCATION THING REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT? THAT, THAT THAT'S IN, IN THE MIDST OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND TRYING TO GET THIS BUDGET NARROWED DOWN TO A TAX RATE AND ADOPTION OF THAT BUDGET.

DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER IN THAT, WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AS A, AS A BOARD? DO WE, IS THERE A NUMBER THAT YOU ARE, ARE PRESENTING HERE TO US THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT? UM, ASHLEY, OUR CHIEF OFFICER'S DONE SOME WORK ON THAT AND PROBABLY DID A LITTLE MORE OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED.

IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, ASHLEY, IF SO, PLEASE, IS THE COURT, UM, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO VARIOUS OTHER COUNTIES, UM, THAT HAVE AN ACTIVE JJ CAN I, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA STOP YOU JUST ONE SECOND.

THERE'S, THERE'S A POINT MADE HERE.

CAN WE ADDRESS THIS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM COUNSELOR? THIS, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITY.

DO WE HAVE ANY BUDGETARY ITEMS ON TODAY? YES, WE DO.

THEN WE NEED TO CALL THAT ITEM.

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OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND HERE.

G ONE.

OKAY, LET'S GO TO ITEM G ONE, GENERAL FUND BUDGET UPDATES.

SO NOW WE'RE UNDER THAT.

NOW WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE BUDGET.

SO IF IT SO PLEASES THE COURT, UM, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO VARIOUS OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAVE ACTIVE JEPS JUST TO GET AN EDUCATED PROJECTION ON WHAT THE NEEDS WOULD BE FOR PARKER COUNTY.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO TARRANT COUNTY, ELLIS COUNTY, JOHNSON COUNTY, AND GRAYSON COUNTY.

GRAYSON COUNTY IS THE NEWEST COUNTY TO COME ON BOARD WITH DEVELOPING A J J A P IN ACCORDANCE WITH, WITH WHAT THEIR STARTUP BUDGET LOOKED LIKE AND WITH WHAT THEY HAVE AT THE TABLE.

UH, THE VERY BRIEF PROJECTION FOR PARKER COUNTY COULD ROUGHLY BE ABOUT $500,000.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE SALARY OF A PROGRAM DIRECTOR, A CASEWORKER, TWO TEACHERS, AND TWO STARTUP CLASSROOMS. UM, I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH DR.

REESE, WITH WEATHERFORD I S D TO GET AN IDEA OF THE COLLABORATION THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE AND COME TO THE TABLE WITH.

THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, UM, EVEN INVOLVING TRANSPORTATION, UH, SCHOOL LUNCHES, UM, AND THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE RELATED TO, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND THE PROVISION OF PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL STAFF.

UH, HE WAS VERY OPEN AND WILLING TO DO WHATEVER WAS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.

UH, BUT TO GIVE THE COUNTY JUST A ROUGH STARTUP ESTIMATE BASED UPON WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE FACING, I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO GIVE A PROJECTION OF $500,000.

AND TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S A NUMBER THAT WE, THAT NEEDS TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THIS BUDGET.

EXISTING BUDGET, NOT A FUTURE BUDGET.

UNTIL THAT POINT, AS THE JUDGE HAS STATED, WE MAY HAVE BEEN IN A MODE WHERE WE HAVE HAD TO HAVE THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS.

DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY STUDENTS THAT ARE MANDATORY J J A E P STUDENTS IN HARFORD COUNTY? UM, SO I DID HAVE T J J D RUN NUMBERS FOR THE, UH, PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEAR, 20 22, 23.

UM, OUT OF THOSE NUMBERS, THE MANDATORY OFFENSES WERE 80 MANDATORY REFERRAL OFFENSES.

HOWEVER, WITH NEW STATE BILL ONE, UH, HOUSE BILL ONE 14, UM, THAT REMOVES NOW THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR VAPE OFFENSES TO BE PLACED AT THE, UH, THE J J A P, WHICH WILL POTENTIALLY, AS OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR, REDUCE THE NUMBER TO 27, UH, MANDATORY, UH, REFERRALS.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO START WITH A CLA WITH CLASSROOMS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE 25 TO 30 YOUTH.

JUDGE TOWSON.

JUDGE MARTIN, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS? DID A, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE CURVE AND I THINK WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GET THIS MOVING.

UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT IN JUVENILE BOARD FOR SOME TIME NOW, SINCE I CAME ON THE BOARD IN JANUARY.

UH, BUT WE NEED TO START TAKING SOME ACTION.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE BEHIND ALL.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHAT WE GOTTA HAVE, I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT THIS A WEEK AGO.

UH, WHY IS THAT? DID WE KNOW IT WAS COMING DOWN THE PIPE OR? SO FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY I CAME ON BOARD, UH, APRIL 19TH OF THIS YEAR.

UM, HOWEVER, I DID, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE AND SEE COMMUNICATION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH T J J D AS WELL AS OUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT SINCE AUGUST OF 2022.

SO THIS HAS BEEN, UM, SOMETHING THAT THERE HAS BEEN, BEEN COMMUNICATION STARTED, UH, AND WE JUST ARE IN A POSITION OF, OF MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PER STATE REQUIREMENT.

WELL, WITH A LEARNING CURVE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS, IS A REQUIREMENT.

I, I WENT TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH THIS AND, AND BEGAN TRYING TO EXPLORE WHAT OUR, OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND SO WE WERE QUICKLY AND RAPIDLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND SO THAT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE, UH, WITHOUT COMING TO THE COURT NOT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT HAPPENING, BUT THAT, THAT'S REALITY.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PRESENTED AND HAS NOT BEEN, BEEN PRESENTED ONCE WE HIT THAT TRIGGER, WHICH WAS PROBABLY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AGO, QUITE FRANKLY.

SO HERE WE ARE TODAY AND GIVING YOU THIS INFORMATION AND IT'S QUICK AS WE CAN GET IT AND, AND WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.

SO, ALRIGHT.

AS I SAID BEFORE, I SERVE ON THAT BOARD AS WELL.

SO, GEOR GEORGE, AND, AND TO BE SPECIFIC, THERE, THERE WAS A WAIVER THAT WAS PROVIDED, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS FROM ALL SCHOOLS, BUT I KNOW FROM AT LEAST ONE SCHOOL, ONE SUPERINTENDENT I SPOKE WITH IN THE PAST, IT PROVIDED WAIVERS THAT PREVENTED US FROM HAVING TO HAVE THE PROGRAM.

HOWEVER, WHEN ALL THE SCHOOLS RECEIVED THAT THIS LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHEN THEY SUGGESTED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM, THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA WAIVE IT AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT WAS AUGUST OF LAST SUMMER.

SO UP

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SO IT'S ANYTHING, IT'S THE POPULATION.

ONCE IT HITS 125,000 IT TRIGGERS, BUT AT SOME POINT, UH, PREDECESSORS HAVE BEEN WRITING WAIVERS, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

SO ONCE THEY WERE, SEVERAL OF THE SCHOOLS EXPRESSED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PRESENT A WAIVER AND WANT TO HAVE THE PROGRAM.

AND IT DOES PROTECT OTHER STUDENTS AT THE SCHOOL BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE GONNA BE VIOLENT KIDS THAT YOU DON'T NEED IN THE GENERAL POPULATION.

AND SO IT REMOVES THEM FROM THAT SITUATION.

I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

OBVIOUSLY, WE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE, LIKE MR. FORRES SAID, A CHILD WHO'S TROUBLED AND IS PARTICULARLY VIOLENT, YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM IN AN UNSECURE LOCATION, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING PERHAPS WHAT WE SHOULD OR WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW IN THAT REGARD.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? CORRECT.

UM, THE SANTA FE BUILDING SPECIFICALLY, DO Y'ALL HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO MAX OUT THAT FACILITY? AT OUR CURRENT RATE OF GROWTH, LIKE, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DIAL IN ON IS ANY FACILITY THAT YOU NEED PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

SO PUTTING Y'ALL AND PUTTING ELECTIONS IN THAT BUILDING PROBABLY WOULDN'T GO WELL TOGETHER, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON SITE 24 7 OR WHENEVER THE STUDENTS ARE THERE.

SO IT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

DO YOU NEED THE ENTIRE BUILDING? I WOULD SAY WITH GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

CURRENTLY, I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH OFFICE SPACE IN OUR EXISTING BUILDING TO HOUSE.

UH, EVEN THE, ALL OF THE STAFF THAT ARE ON BOARD.

UM, I HAVE ALSO PROJECTED IN THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL PROBATION OFFICERS ADDED BASED UPON THE INFLUX OF REFERRALS HERE AT PARKER COUNTY.

SO WITH THAT CONTINUED GROWTH, THAT BUILDING WOULD BE ABLE TO HOUSE BOTH THE J J E P IF THAT WERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AS WELL AS THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND ALLOW FOR CONTINUED GROWTH OF THE FUTURE.

I'M, I'M, YES, YES.

YOU'RE GETTING EXACTLY AT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD WANT BOTH TO GO OVER THERE AND THAT BUILDING IS SUFFICIENTLY LARGE FOR BOTH.

HOW MUCH OF THAT BUILDING, IF YOU WERE TO USE IT FOR BOTH, WOULD YOU BE OCCUPYING, WOULD IT BE THE ENTIRE THING OR WOULD THERE BE A SIZABLE PORTION LEFT OVER THERE? WOULD IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY THE ENTIRE ENTIRE THING, UM, OUTSIDE OF HAVING SOME OFFICE SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, IF NEEDED AS WELL.

WOULD YOU EXPECT TO OUTGROW THAT BUILDING SOON? NOT SOON, NO, SIR.

SO FIVE YEARS OR SO, YOU SHOULD BE BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME? ABSOLUTELY.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH THE SECURITY THAT IS ALREADY LOCATED IN THE BUILDING, UM, SURE.

THAT OBVIOUSLY MAKES IT, THAT'S HELPFUL.

I'LL ALSO TO ADD TO THAT IS THAT WE, WE DID HAVE MORE THAN ONE TOUR OF THAT WITH THE, UH, THE POTENTIAL MOVING OF DEPARTMENTS OVER THERE.

AND IT WAS, UH, PRETTY EVIDENT THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, WAS NOT GONNA CONFORM TO, UH, HAVING A JUVENILE, UH, FACILITY OR A TEACHING FACILITY THERE.

UH, SO THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE WITH THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE THERE IS, IS THE SO'S REQUEST FOR THE SEVEN DETECTIVES THAT MIGHT WORK IN THE CORNER AND THE NORTHEAST CORNER MIGHT WORK, BUT THAT WOULD BE IT.

YOU WOULD'VE, YOU WOULD, WE PRETTY MUCH CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU WOULD'VE YOU TAKE THE OLD BUILDING.

IF THAT WAS THE BUILDING THAT WAS SELECTED TO COMBINE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD CREATE A LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY, ACTUALLY.

PER YEAR ANNUALLY MM-HMM.

THAT WOULD BE Y'ALL TELLING US THAT, BECAUSE IT, I UNDERSTAND.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, THESE 27 STUDENTS, WHERE ARE THEY BEING EDUCATED NOW? THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON CAMPUS AT THE VARIOUS ISDS, UH, D AEPS.

SO THEY'RE NOT ALL AT ONE CAMPUS THAT EVERY SCHOOL HAS A COUPLE? CORRECT.

EVERY SCHOOL HAS THEIR OWN D A D A E P.

SO, UM, THEY ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED ON SITE, ON CAMPUS, UH, AT THE VARIOUS ISDS.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY LIABILITY IF A STUDENT AT ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS WHO SHOULD BE AT AN ALTERNATE LOCATION DOES SOMETHING TO ANOTHER STUDENT AND THE PARENTS OF THAT STUDENT THEN APPROACH THE COUNTY SAYING, HEY, YOU HAVEN'T DONE YOUR JOB TO GET THAT STUDENT OFF OF THE REGULAR LOCATION? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I COULD GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ABOUT AND, AND TELL YOU THAT I, UM, AM EDUCATED ON THAT.

YOU HAD MENTIONED 25 OR ESTIMATED 25 TO 30 OF THE MANDATORIES

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SO IS THAT SAFE TO ASSUME? WELL, IS THERE SUMMER SCHOOL OR IS THIS KIND OF SPLIT UP OVER TWO SEMESTERS? SO DIFFERENT JJ APS OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.

, UM, SOME OF THE COUNTY ISDS OFFER SUMMER SCHOOL.

UM, BUT GIVEN THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF DOING THAT, MOST DO NOT OFFER THE SUMMER SCHOOL OPTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE WERE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO DO.

YOU'RE NOT, AS FAR AS THAT CONCERNED, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE.

SO 12 TO 15 MAYBE PER SEMESTER, IF WE'RE JUST USING NUMBERS HERE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THESE WERE BASED IF YOU SPOKE WITH JOHNSON COUNTY, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THEIR POPULATION CORRELATES, LIKE HOW WE COMPARE WITH THEM AS FAR AS STUDENTS GO, BUT, SO WE USE JOHNSON COUNTY AS A, AS A RULE OR AS A, UH, BENCHMARK.

WHAT ARE THE AGES? DO WE HAVE SOME OF THESE THAT ARE OLDER THAT IN Y'ALL'S NORMAL COURT WOULD CONSIDER ADULTS THAT, THAT UNDER THIS PROGRAM WERE REQUIRED TO, UH, HANDLE AS CHILDREN? THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF AS FAR AS THE ADULT, 'CAUSE I DID NOT DELVE INTO KIND OF THE, THE AGE RANGE.

MM.

BUT WE HAVE THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE, THE JUVENILE SYSTEM TO SERVE YOUTH 10 TO 17 UP TO 18 YEARS OF AGE IF THEY COMMIT THE OFFENSE PRIOR TO 18.

SO, UM, ANYONE THAT IS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 18 YEAR OLDS THAT ARE STILL IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT IF THEY HAVE THE MANDATORY REFERRAL OFFENSE, THEY WOULD GET REFERRED TO THE JUVENILE JUSTICE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM.

IS THAT THE AGE LIMIT? 17, 18? YES.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTATION OF THESE STUDENTS? THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IS DEVELOPED IN THE M O U CONTRACT.

UM, AGAIN, SOME SCHOOLS, UH, HAVE CONTRACTS WITH DURHAM TO, TO PROVIDE, UH, IN ALIGNMENT WITH EVEN WHAT THE LOCAL DAPS ARE DOING.

THIS WOULD BE A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WOULD FALL ON THE PARENT TO HAVE THE PARENT GET THEM TO THE SCHOOL AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THE OFFENSES ARE THAT WOULD BE MANDATORY PLACEMENT.

SO THEY WOULD BE KIND OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS, UH, FELONY OFFENSES, ANY KIND OF AGGRAVATED OFFENSES, ATTEMPTED MURDER, THEY WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF YOUR SEXUAL OFFENSES.

THEY WOULD INCLUDE PROHIBITED WEAPONS, UM, IN ANYTHING THAT IS IN ESSENCE VIOLENT IN NATURE.

SO THESE ARE BEING HOUSED CURRENTLY AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN AN, IN AN ISOLATION FROM THE OTHER D A E P STUDENTS, CORRECT? NO, THEY ARE SITTING NEXT TO THE OTHER STUDENTS THAT ARE IN D A E P.

AND THEY COME AND GO EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN AT THIS NEW FACILITY WHEN YOU GET IT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HOUSED THERE.

THEY COME AND GO JUST LIKE THEY WOULD AT SCHOOL.

SO IF WE GO TO WEATHERFORD I S D, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, YES.

NOT TO PICK ON ANY I S D, BUT JUST THEY'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST USE THEM.

THAT'S EXTREMELY TROUBLING.

A STUDENT WHO'S CAUGHT WITH A VAPE PEN THAT HAS SOME NICOTINE IN IT, IS SITTING NEXT TO A STUDENT WHO COMMITTED A VIOLENT SEXUAL OFFENSE THAT IS ACCURATE.

AND THAT HAS BEEN THE CONCERN THAT HAS VOICE HAS BEEN VOICED BY THE SUPERINTENDENTS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO.

IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE EASIEST TO SOLVE BECAUSE I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE A PLACE TO PUT IT, I THINK GETTING EVERYTHING, GETTING THE, THE STAFFING HIRED AND THE SERVICES WON'T TAKE THAT LONG.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE REALLY NEED A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE.

UM, THAT INVOLVES A QUESTION OF ECONOMICS.

AND WHAT WE DO IS HAVE, UH, DETENTION SERVICES PROVIDED IN OTHER LOCATIONS OUT OF COUNTY, AND THOSE ARE DONE UNDER CONTRACT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT FACILITIES TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICES.

UM, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, UH, IN MY OPINION, JUST SITTING ON THE BOARD AND LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS OF THE JUVENILE SYSTEM, INCLUDING, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, JUVENILE PRISON AS A PRESIDING JUDGE ON THESE THINGS, UH, IT IS A DIFFICULT SYSTEM TO NAVIGATE.

IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO GET THESE KIDS WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

HOWEVER, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, POSSIBILITIES OF PERCENTAGES OF REHABILITATION ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER WITH THE JUVENILE.

AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AND NOT CREATE FUTURE CUSTOMERS FOR THE FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR SYSTEMS IN ADULTS.

BUT, UH, TAKING ALL OF THESE ISSUES IN THE JUVENILE SYSTEM, FRANKLY, UH, THIS ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION THING

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IF, IF WE HAD A BUILDING TOMORROW, UH, WE COULD HAVE THIS THING UP AND RUNNING IN A FEW MONTHS.

I MEAN IT THAT THIS IS GONNA BE THE EASIEST OF OUR JUVENILE ISSUES TO SOLVE.

WELL, ONE THING I'M MAKE INTERRUPT YOU HERE, JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNEW GOING INTO THIS PURCHASE AND BUYING THE FORMER WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THE NEED TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT TO GET RENOVATIONS MADE TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THE USE IS GONNA BE FOR AND THE USERS THAT ARE GONNA BE, BE OCCUPYING THAT BUILDING.

SO IT'S, THIS ISN'T GONNA BE, OH, I GUESS IT COULD, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE, UH, SOME RENOVATIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO THIS.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WELL, I'M JUST, I'M ALL I'M SAYING SURE.

IT, IT'LL BE A HEADACHE FOR ANY FACILITY.

I'M JUST SAYING IF WE GET A BUILDING, WE CAN MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND SO THIS IS EASY TO KNOCK IN THE HEAD.

THEN IF WE GO TO FUTURE PLANS FOR A DETENTION CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CONSIDERING THE GROWTH OF OUR COUNTY, THAT'S ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY, JUDGE, I, I, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH, UH, SIGNIFICANT REQUESTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

JUST, JUST STATEMENT OF THE FACT HERE.

AND, UM, I, I, I SUGGEST WE NEED A PRETTY DETAILED BUDGET OF WHAT WE NEED TO START THIS PROGRAM OFF.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, 27 STUDENTS ARE AT $18,500 PER STUDENT FOR A YEAR AT, AND I REALIZE THERE'S SOME FIRST TIME COSTS IN THERE, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW CLOSER WHAT WE NEED, BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE'RE TAKING HERE IS, IS, IS A DOLLAR THAT'S BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM SOME OTHER NEED IN THE COUNTY.

SO I, I RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR THE PROGRAM.

I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I, BUT WE NEED A PRETTY CLOSE BUDGET OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED THIS FOR YEAR ONE TO GET STARTED.

FAIR.

WELL, COMMISSIONER, I LIVE HERE TOO.

A DOLLAR'S IMPORTANT TO ME MM-HMM.

, SO WE DO WHAT WE CAN.

I UNDERSTAND.

I'M JUST SAYING IF WE HAD A MORE DETAILED, MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF WHAT YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO NEED OTHER THAN JUST YES.

FIGURE OUT THERE, IT'D BE GREAT.

AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE THE, THE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESPECTIVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DONE IN A RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE.

AND ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT, THAT WILL BE THE GROUNDWORK FOR A MORE DETAILED BUDGET.

MY POINT, EXACTLY.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

IS THERE NOT OFFSET FROM THE SCHOOLS? SORRY? IS THERE NOT OFFSET FROM THE SCHOOLS? I THOUGHT THERE'S SOME OFFSET ON THE COST FROM SOME OF THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC OF THAT.

THE, THE SPECIFIC IS, I THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE DRAWING THE, THE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE STUDENTS, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT'S GONNA BE DRAWING THE STATE FUNDING FOR THOSE KIDS.

AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT MONEY'S GONNA GO.

THE SUPERINTENDENTS I'VE SPOKEN WITH HAVE INDICATED A COMMITMENT TO HELP FUND, I'M SORRY, THE SUPERINTENDENTS I'VE SPOKEN WITH ON THIS ISSUE HAVE INDICATED A COMMITMENT HAVE OBVIOUSLY GIVEN A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THEY HAVE COMMITTED VERBALLY TO HELP FUND THE PROGRAM.

WELL, AND I, I WOULD EXPECT THAT BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT THE REASON FOR THIS LEGISLATION IN THE FIRST PLACE IS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE KIDS THAT WERE A PROBLEM .

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE COUNTIES NOW IN THE SCHOOL BUSINESS.

IT'S GROWING EXPONENTIALLY FAST.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I LIKE THE YES, SIR.

ONE THING FROM, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HALE AND COMMISSIONER CONLEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITIES, THE, AND, AND JUDGE DEAN AS WELL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THIS FACILITY, THAT FACILITY THEY WOULD NEED, I I E THE OLD POLICE STATION, THEY'RE ON SANTA FE, PARKER COUNTY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SIXTH FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

SO IF IN THE SHORT 38 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE SEEN EXPONENTIAL GROWTH.

HU HUDSON OAKS, WHERE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH JUDGE DEAN USED TO BE THIS TINY PLACE.

LOOK AT IT.

AND SO TO HAVE MORE ROOM AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA WORK AND THEN ONE YEAR LATER, OKAY, WE'RE OUT OF SPACE, LIKE IN THE DISTRICT COURT AND LIKE YOU ARE HERE IN THIS COURTHOUSE AS WELL, HAVE SOME PLACE TO GROW TO BECAUSE THOSE STUDENTS ARE COMING WITH THEIR PARENTS WHEN THEY COME TO PARKER COUNTY IN YOUR PRECINCT.

I USED TO THINK OF SPRINGTOWN UNTIL I DROVE THROUGH THE BACK WAY ONE TIME.

THERE WERE SUBDIVISIONS BEYOND BELIEF OVER 90 IN BROCK WHERE COMMISSIONER

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WALDEN IS WHERE COMMISSIONER HOLZ IS.

IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S UNREAL THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT.

YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING PRETTY DEVELOPED, COMMISSIONER HELL, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IS JUST KEEP IN MIND, MIND FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE FACILITY, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REACH POTENTIAL VERY QUICKLY.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? YEAH.

YOU MENTIONED THE PARENTS, THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE ALL DAY TOO, WITH THE KID, SIR, OR NO, SIR.

THEY'RE JUST DROPPING A KID OFF.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE MY UNDERSTANDING AND MR. MENO WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER PERSON TO ASK.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS JUST LIKE A SCHOOL THAT YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR TROUBLED CHILD TO AND DROP THEM OFF AT SCHOOL AND YOU PICK 'EM UP AT WHATEVER TIME.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE MOM OR DAD FROM SPRINGTOWN IS GONNA DRIVE TO WEATHERFORD WITH THIS KID AND DROP HIM OFF AND THEN COME BACK AND PICK HIM UP.

MAYBE THEY JUST LEAVE HIM THERE UNLESS THEY ENTER INTO A TRANSPORTATION CONTRACT, UM, WITH ONE OF THE BUS ENTITIES FOR THE SCHOOL, TYPICALLY DURHAM.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, UH, FEASIBLE EXPECTATION, UM, UH, IS FOR THE PARENT TO, TO BRING THEM FROM WHAT I KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN VERY WELL.

THE KID PROBABLY WON'T SHOW UP VERY OFTEN.

AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? SO THEN IT'LL BE NECESSARY.

UH, AS FAR AS THE, AS THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN SPOKE TO, TO INCLUDE THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE FOR PARKER COUNTY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

NOT YET.

WE'RE NOT.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR, THAT'S FOR GETTING A CHILD TO SCHOOL IS EITHER A BUS OR A PARENT.

THE PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REGULAR D A E P AT SCHOOL FOR GETTING THE STUDENT THERE.

THEY HAVE NO, THERE'S NO RIGHT TO RIDE A BUS.

WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ONES OVER THERE, PROBABLY OTHER SCHOOLS TOO, BRINGING THEM TO WEATHERFORD.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA TAKE A COLLABORATION AND COOPERATION WITH THE PARENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

BUT WE KNOW HOW THE PARENTS ARE, YOU CAN'T MAKE 'EM.

AND AGAIN, THE OP, WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, ASHLEY, IS THE, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S AN, IT'S AN OPTION AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS ALSO ASKING AND NOT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MAR? JUDGE MARTIN, SPEAKING TO THAT TRANSPORTATION ISSUE, I SEE SOME LIABILITY ON THE COUNTY.

YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME BAD ACTORS WHO ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND THIS PROGRAM.

UH, YOU PUT SEVERAL OF THEM ON A BUS COMING OUT, SPRINGTOWN OR ANYWHERE ELSE? I CAN SEE BAD THINGS COULD HAPPEN.

IT'S GEORGIA, TO YOUR POINT, I DEAL WITH TRUANCY AND THERE'S OTHER EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE KIDS, UH, OTHER THAN THIS PROGRAM.

SO IF A PARENT COULDN'T GET THEIR KID DOWN, THEY COULD DO A HOME STUDY.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THIS PROGRAM.

THEY, THEY COULD UNENROLL FROM WHATEVER SCHOOL THEY'RE IN AND TAKE A DIFFERENT PROGRAM, AN ONLINE PROGRAM, A SELF-STUDY PROGRAM, OR EVEN GO TO TAKE A G E D.

BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT AGE THEY ARE, OF COURSE, WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS IS A SCHOOL.

AND SO ALL THE LAWS THAT APPLIES TO ANY STUDENT, ANY PARENT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS GONNA APPLY TO THIS ALSO.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE THINK GETTING THEM THERE, THE LAW ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH, THEN THE LEGISLATURE WILL BE IN TWO YEARS.

UH, WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT ASK OR HAVING THE NEXT STEP BE, UH, IS PROBABLY HAVE A SPECIAL COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, A JOINT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ALONG WITH THE JUVENILE BOARD, UH, TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS AND, AND AT THAT POINT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS ASKED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DETAILED BUDGET.

SO IT'LL HELP US.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SOONER THAN LATER ON THAT ONE BEYOND.

SO, UH, 'CAUSE WE CAN JUST CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK WE ALL, UH, TO ALLOW US TO DIGEST THIS AND, AND UNDERSTAND IT.

UM, AND THEN FOR YOU TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND THEN COME BACK AND WE'LL SCHEDULE A SPECIAL, I THINK THAT'D PROBABLY THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT THAN COMBINE IT WITH 11TH.

I THINK WE NEED PROBABLY THE MORE IMMEDIATE, UH, MEETING THEN WAITING FOR THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WHICH WILL BE ON THE 11TH.

SO WE JUST PLAN ON US GETTING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND YOURSELVES AND WHAT WOULD WORK FOR A, UH, SPECIAL JOINT MEETING TOGETHER TO WORK THROUGH THESE THINGS.

I GOT A QUESTION FOR BRIANNA.

WE NEED, WE GOT A PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, SO WE GOTTA KNOW SOMETHING FROM THEM BY WHEN, UM, WE'LL BE ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET SEPTEMBER 25TH.

AND THEN THERE'S DISCUSSION TODAY AS, AS THE TAX RATE TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET.

UM, YOU, IF WE'RE ABOVE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ADOPT THAT RATE WITHIN SEVEN

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DAYS.

SO WE COULD EITHER DROP THAT, UM, TO EITHER ADOPT THAT TAX, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, EPTEMBER 25TH, NOT, NOT DAYS PRIOR TO THE 25TH.

SO, UM, THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY 18TH.

I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE FACILITY.

DOES IT HAVE TO, ARE THERE SPECIFIC SECURITY REQUIREMENTS OF WHERE THIS CLASSROOM, WHERE THIS TRAINING COMES IN? SO THERE IS NO OUTLINE OF SPECIFIC SECURITY.

UM, IT IS OBVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE.

BUT THERE ISN'T LIKE A REQUIREMENT OF SO MANY CAMERAS PER SQUARE FOOT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU DO THAT BASED UPON THE NEEDS OF YOUR SITE.

SO I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT.

UM, DOES THIS HAVE TO BE DURING THE DAY OR CAN IT BE IN THE EVENING? UM, IT IS TO, UH, FOLLOW WHATEVER SCHOOL CALENDAR IS ADOPTED, AND TYPICALLY IT'S WHATEVER, UM, TOWN THAT THE SCHOOL WILL BE LOCATED IN.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WERE LOCATED HERE, WE WOULD ADOPT WEATHERFORD, UH, ISDS SCHOOL CALENDAR.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DAY LOOKING THE SAME.

I'M TALKING ABOUT EVENING VERSUS DURING DAYTIME BECAUSE, UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A D A P PROGRAM HERE IN PARKER COUNTY THAT WAS SHARED AMONG SEVERAL SCHOOLS, NOT J J A P, BUT RECORDS, D A E P.

THAT WAS IN THE EVENING AND IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ONES EVER.

'CAUSE THEY LOST THEIR SOCIAL TIME JUDGE.

THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RUN AROUND WITH THE OTHER KIDS.

AND IT WAS ON FRIDAY NIGHTS TOO.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE, UH, TEACHERS, INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF THAT WORKED DURING THE DAY AT SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN CAME AND WORKED EXTRA TIME IN THE EVENING.

IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEE WHETHER THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY OR NOT.

AND A FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER HALE WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE SECURITY.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE EXISTING PD IS THAT THAT IS A PRETTY SECURE BUILDING IT BASED ON SECURITY FOR INTERVIEWS I THE JUVENILES WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT'S DOING THAT, THAT, THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT MAKES THAT SUCH A PERFECT FIT.

I UNDERSTAND.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING FOR YOUR TIME.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.

YOU WELL UNDER I, UNDER ITEM G ONE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER, UH, WE WILL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT.

WE WILL NOT NEED A VOTE.

UH, WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM P ON THE DISCUSSION.

TAKE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION OF THE PARKER COUNTY JUVENILE BOARD.

UM, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT AS WELL.

THAT WILL NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

MOVE A SECOND.

SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

REQUESTING THAT NO FEE IS ASSESSED BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, QUOTE, UM, PUBLIC RANGE THAT WE DON'T GET CHARGED FOR.

WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, IS, IS TRY TO SEQUENCE THIS INTO OUR, OUR, UM, AGENDA AND THEN COME BACK AND WE'RE GONNA RECESS, UH, AT, UM, RIGHT AT 12 OR A LITTLE BEFORE 12 AND, UH, COME BACK AND THEN DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY AT ONE O'CLOCK ON THE BUDGET ITEMS ON THAT.

SO WE CAN NOT KEEP COMING BACK AND FORTH GOING DO A, A, UM, AGENDA ITEM AND THEN GO INTO A BUDGET ITEM.

SO IF WE WOULD, LET'S

[7.J. Discuss/Approve the Sheriffs Office firearms proficiency certificate program for retired peace officers. (Sheriff Authier / Judge Deen)]

MOVE DOWN TO ITEM HJ.

DISCUSS, APPROVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FIREARMS PROFICIENCY CERTIFICATE PROGRAM FOR RETIRED PEACE OFFICERS, SHERIFF ER, OR HIS OFFICE.

MORNING MARK ARNETT SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, THE LAW REQUIRES, UM, EACH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS TO HAVE A, UH, A POLICY REGARDING RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THEIR ABILITY TO CARRY A SPECIFIC CARD.

UM, IN THE PAST, WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN COMPLYING WITH THE LAW, BUT WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE COME UP WITH A POLICY.

THE POLICY, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS INSTITUTED IS THAT WE WILL DO ALL THE QUALIFICATION FOR ALL THE LAW AND RETIRED LAW AND QUALIFIED RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THEN EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, HEAD OF, IF EACH AGENCY IN THE, IN THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY ISSUE THOSE RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT CARDS.

THE CARDS ARE, UM, COVERED UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW AND ALLOW QUALIFIED RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO CARRY THEIR FIREARMS, UH, SANDS, A CONCEAL TO CARRY A LICENSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS APPROVAL LAW REQUIRES COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE OUR PROGRAM, TO QUALIFY THESE OFFICERS, UM, AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR A FEE TO BE ASSESSED, UM,

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BUT IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO ACTUALLY GET CHARGED FOR THAT, ANY, UH, RANGE FEE BE AS, UH, ASSESSED BY THE, THE APPLICANT AND ACTUALLY PAID, UH, BY THE APPLICANT TO THE COUNTY TO PLACE INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

THESE RETIRED OFFICERS, THEY HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED EACH YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS.

THEY'RE THE, THE FEDERAL SAYS TWO STATE SAYS ONE, SO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE STATE LAW EVERY YEAR.

EVERY YEAR.

THE, UH, QUALIFIED RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT ID CARD IS, UH, ONLY GOOD FOR ONE YEAR.

AND EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE TO BE REISSUED.

LIKE, DOES THIS, I MEAN, I I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SOME AMMUNITION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THEIR OWN AMMUNITION.

UM, NOTHING'S PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT.

UH, THEY HAVE TO SWEAR OUT AN AFFIDAVIT EACH TIME THAT THEY QUALIFY, THAT THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING PHYSICAL, MENTAL, UM, CRIMINAL, ANY CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

POLICY ALSO ALLOWS THE SHERIFF TO, OR IF ADOPTED BY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THIS COUNTY TO RECOVER THOSE CARDS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE REGARDING, UH, AN ARREST OR CONVICTION OR INDICTMENT OR ANY MEN MENTAL OR PHYSICAL DEFECT THROUGHOUT THAT ONE YEAR PERIOD.

UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I HAVE A HOW MUCH DO YOU EXPECT THIS TO COST? UH, THIS SHOULD NOT COST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR THE COUNTY ANYTHING, UM, OTHER THAN THE COST OF THE CARD THAT GETS PRINTED UP.

AND HR WILL ACTUALLY PRINT THOSE CARDS UP FOR US EVERY YEAR.

UH, WE JUST, UH, I LIKE THAT PRICE.

WE, UH, WE WILL QUALIFY TWICE A YEAR, UH, AT THE TIME OF OUR CHOOSING.

AND IF THE APPLICANT CAN'T MEET, MEET THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL WAYS FOR THEM TO GET THE QUALIFIED, UM, OR THE, UH, FIREARM CERTIFICATE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET IT THROUGH THE, THROUGH T CALL THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS IF THEY CAN'T MEET OUR QUALIFICATION PROCEDURES.

MARK, WILL YOU, YOU NOTIFY THE OTHER AGENCIES UNDER PARKER COUNTY THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS? I HAVE.

I'VE NOTIFIED EACH, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

UM, I'VE SENT THEM A COPY OF THE POLICY OF OUR POLICY AND, UH, THEY CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO ACCEPT OUR QUALIFICATION, UH, PROCEDURES, OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DO THEIR OWN.

IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE HEAD OF THE, OF EACH AGENCY.

ADAM, K APPROVED THE 2024 SHERIFF'S AND CONSTABLE'S FEE REPORT IS REQUIRED BY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 8 1 18, 1 31, UH, LILA.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

OH, THANK YOU SCOTT.

[7.K. Approve the 2024 Sheriffs and Constables Fees Report as required by Texas Local Government Code, Section 118.131. (Lila Deakle / Judge Deen)]

UM, SO, UM, THE CONSTABLES HAVE GOT TOGETHER AND HAVE DISCUSSED THEIR FEES.

I, UM, EVERYONE HAS THEIR NEW FEE SHEET HERE.

UH, SO MY RESPONSIBILITY IS JUST TO, UM, BRING THIS TO COURT, GET THE COURT'S APPROVAL, AND THEN I SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE.

GO TO L ITEM L I L DISCUSS TAKE ACTION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON MS. ROAD? ASK FOR A MOTION.

SOLE MOVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO.

ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS VO

[7.L. Discuss/Take action to allow county to pay for CDL training and license costs for employees of precinct barns. (Commissioner Holt)]

TO ALLOW COUNTY TO PAY FOR C D L TRAINING AND LICENSE COSTS FOR EMPLOYEES, UH, PRECINCT BARNES, COMMISSIONER HOLT.

SO WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY FOR QUITE A WHILE, TALKING 10 PLUS YEARS.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY FOR THE PRECINCT BUDGET TO PAY FOR THEM TO GO GET THEIR C D L TRAINING AND TESTING AND ALL OF THAT.

THE REASON I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS IF WE HAVE A GOOD EMPLOYEE WHO'S A RESPONSIBLE EMPLOYEE, THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES COMMITTED TO THE COUNTY, BUT THEY HAVE A GROSS SALARY OF SOMEWHERE AROUND $50,000, ASKING THEM TO PAY APPROXIMATELY $5,000 TO GO GET THEIR TRAINING AND THEIR C D L, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS NOW TO GO GET A NEW C D L WHEN YOU GET THE HIGHEST LEVEL GO FROM NOTHING TO AN A, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO RETAIN HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYEES WHO REALLY HELP THE COUNTY QUITE A BIT.

DIDN'T WE USED TO DO THAT, BRIANNA, OR NOT? I, WHEN I DID, UM, WHAT WE FOR I BECAUSE WHENEVER WE HIRED NEW EMPLOYEES, WE, IT WAS MANDATORY THAT THEY GET A C D L AND I THOUGHT WE PAID FOR IT, BUT MAYBE NOT.

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I DIDN'T C MAYBE THEY PAID FOR IT THEMSELVES.

NOT WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE.

YEAH, I GUESS THEY PAID FOR IT THEMSELVES, BUT IT WAS MANDATORY IF THEY WANTED TO KEEP THEIR JOB THAT THEY GOT A C D L AND, AND HAVING A, HAVING A C D L IS IMPORTANT TO ME WHEN I'M LOOKING AT NEW HIRES FOR SURE.

THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THE COST OF THE COUNTY FOR THAT.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR MY EXISTING EMPLOYEES.

YEAH, I GOT IT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IT.

I'M MAKING THE MOTION THAT WE ALLOW THE COUNTY TO PAY FROM THE PRECINCT BUDGET.

SO PRECINCT TWO WOULD PAY FOR PRECINCT TWO EMPLOYEES, ET CETERA FOR THE C D L TRAINING AND LICENSE COSTS.

THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT AND THIS WILL BE A POLICY CHANGE.

SO THE MOTION IS FOR THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR THAT C D L, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW WE DON'T.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

WELL LET, LET'S WE, LET'S GET A SECOND.

I'LL, I'LL I'LL SECOND THE MOTION, UH, JUST TO GET IT TO THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

YOU GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER.

WHAT TYPE OF TIMEFRAME IS THIS TRAINING? THE STANDARD ONE FOR WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TAKES ABOUT A MONTH.

I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

TO GET A C D L.

I MEAN, IF WE SEND AN EMPLOYEE OFF TO GET TRAINING, HOW LONG ARE THEY GONNA BE OFF TO TRAINING? WELL, I HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO'S TAKING HIS TEST TODAY THAT'S WORKED FOR US FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS AND STUDIED, TOOK THE TEST AND IS TAKING HIS DRIVING TEST TODAY.

HE, HE HASN'T BEEN TO A SCHOOL.

HE'S, HE'S STUDIED THE MATERIALS, THE TEST ONLINE, AND NOW HE'S TAKING HIS DRIVING TEST TODAY.

SO THE, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU GET IS, UH, IS THIS GUY GONNA WANT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PRECINCTS IS PAYING, IS HE GONNA WANT ME TO PAY FOR HIM NOW SINCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION THERE.

UH, I HIRED HIM, UH, AND UH, EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT IF HE CAME TO WORK FOR US, HE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO GET HIS C D O WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

NOW THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S WHAT I DO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS.

THAT'S WHAT I DO IN MY APPRECIATION, IT'S AUTHORITY TO GET A C D L, BUT RIGHT.

AS SOON AS, IN MY CASE, IT'S HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES, AS SOON AS THEY GOT A C D L, THEY QUIT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AFTER WE PAID FOR IT.

I, I WOULD RUN INTO THAT SAME SCENARIO IN MY, IN MY PRIVATE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, INVESTING IN PEOPLE THAT SHOW GOOD POTENTIAL, MAKING THEM MORE VALUABLE.

AND THEN AS SOON AS THAT THAT HAPPENS, THEN SOMEBODY ELSE HIRES 'EM AWAY OR THEY LEAVE FOR GREENER PASTURES.

AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO TO TO TELL PRECINCT TOO WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING.

I'M JUST STATING EXACTLY WHAT WE DO AT MY PRECINCT, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.

I, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE SPENDING MONEY TO SEND SOMEBODY, PAY THEM TO GO TO A SCHOOL.

SO THIS IS SPECIFIC TO PRECINCT TWO, SPECIFIC TO NOT THE OTHER PRECINCTS, BUT PRECINCT.

WELL, HE, HE, HE, WELL NO, HE'S, HE'S ASKING THAT FOR ALL OF US, BUT I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUPPOSING THAT I KNOW HIS SITUATION 'CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM MINE AND IT'S NOT FORCING THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO DO ANYTHING.

WHAT THEIR PRECINCTS YOUR MOTION JUST TO BE PRECINCT TOO.

UH, I I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO A PRECINCT, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT FORCING Y'ALL TO CHANGE HOW YOU'VE DONE BUSINESS.

I THINK THE COUNTERPOINT AND I COULD DEFINITELY SEE WHERE AN EMPLOYEE WOULD POSSIBLY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK THE COUNTERPOINT IS IF, IF I TELL MY GUYS WHO HAD BEEN WORKING FOR THE PRECINCT TWO BARN FOR 10 YEARS, HEY, GO SPEND 10% OF YOUR GROSS SALARY GETTING A C D L LICENSE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HELP YOU WITH IT.

IF I WERE THEM AND I WENT AND SPENT THAT ON MY OWN POCKET OR PUT IT ON A CREDIT CARD OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD PROBABLY INCENTIVIZE ME TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK THAT ARGUMENT CAN KIND OF FLOAT BOTH WAYS.

IT GOES BOTH WAYS.

IF IF THEY WANT THE JOB, THEY CAN GET A C D L LICENSE.

MY POINT WAS THAT MY INDIVIDUAL DIDN'T PAY $5,000.

HE, HE READ THE BOOK, HE STUDIED THE MATERIAL, HE TOOK THE TEST, AND NOW HE'S TAKING THE DRIVING TEST TODAY.

WE'RE ALLOWING HIM TO TAKE TWO HOURS OFF EARLY TO DO THAT.

SO HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THAT COSTS THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL? NONE.

NOTHING.

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY.

THE LICENSE ITSELF IS WHAT, 298 BUCKS? I THINK THAT'S THE TRAINING.

I'LL PAY YOU SOMETHING.

IT'S IF YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL, THAT'S WHERE THE COST IS.

SO YEAH, THAT THERE IS RISK THERE FOR THEM TO LEAVE, BUT FOR THEM TO DO THAT AND COMMIT TO THAT, I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF THAT.

HE, HE'S NOT, HE'S, HE STILL BUYS THE LICENSE.

YEAH, THAT'D BE AN INDIVIDUAL CASE BY CASE BASIS.

IT'S ALWAYS A RISK WHEN A, WHETHER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR IN THE, IN, IN THE, IN THE GOVERNMENT SECTOR THAT WHEN YOU OFFER A BENEFIT AND THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT RISK WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA STAY AND COMMIT TO YOU OR THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE.

UH, THAT THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT, UH, WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO OFFER.

UM,

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IT CUTS BOTH WAYS.

SO, UM, COUNSELOR, LEGALLY, CAN WE PAY FOR THEIR LICENSE? IT, IT WOULD BE A SALARY SUPPLEMENT.

UH, SO BRI, BRIANNA WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO, TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE ADDING, ADDING TO THEIR SALARY BY COVERING THE COST OF A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.

AN OUTSIDE PROGRAM OR IF YOU'RE TREATING IT JUST LIKE TRAINING, YOU SEND SOMEONE TO TRAINING AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT VERSUS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, I MEAN YEAH, YOU'RE NOT PAYING IT THROUGH PAYROLL, YOU'RE NOT REIMBURSING THAT IF YOU'RE PAYING DIRECTLY.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE IT FROM THE AVENUE OF YOU SAY THAT IT'S SERVING THE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT TRAINING.

IF WE DO THAT WITH OUR JAILER'S LICENSE RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD THEORETICALLY STOP WORKING AT THE BARN ONCE THEY GOT THEIR JAILER'S LICENSE AND GO WORK AT THE JAIL OR A PRISON, MAKE MORE MONEY.

IS THERE ANYTHING? SO WELL, JUST ONE MORE COMMENT.

UM, WE DO ALLOW THEM TO USE OUR EQUIPMENT TO GO TAKE THE TEST WHEN THEY NEED TO TAKE THE TEST.

THEY, WE ALLOW THEM TO TAKE, UH, WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, UH, DRIVE THE, THE, UH, EQUIPMENT THERE FOR THEM.

UH, THEY TAKE THE TEST IN IT AND IF THEY PASS, THEY GET TO DRIVE IT BACK.

SO, BUT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THAT IT DON'T COST NOTHING TO TAKE, TO GO TAKE THE TEST OTHER THAN THE LICENSE.

I SAID THAT WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T PAY ANYTHING.

PRECINCT THREE DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO GO GET.

BUT IF, IF THEY WANT TO GET A C D L, ALL THEY GOTTA PAY FOR IS THE LICENSE.

THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND DO THE TESTING, BUT THERE'S A $300, IS THAT RIGHT? INSTEAD OF, I BELIEVE IT'S $298, BUT I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT NUMBER.

BUT IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE YOU CAN GO TO A SCHOOL, LET'S SAY IT'S, LET'S SAY YOU GOT A GOOD EMPLOYEE, BUT THEY DON'T LEARN.

WELL, JUST SITTING AT HOME READING A BOOK, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT NEEDS THAT HANDS-ON INSTRUCTION.

THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL COST COMES IN TO GO TO THE SCHOOL.

SO HOW LONG IS THE SCHOOL WEEK? TWO WEEKS? I BELIEVE IT'S TWO WEEKS.

EVERY DAY.

SO TO BE CLEAR, AND I'M I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL, I'M JUST SAYING TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL FOR TWO WEEKS, PAYING THE TUITION TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND THEN PAYING THEM TO, TO, TO GET THE ACTUAL LICENSE ITSELF.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE 5,000 IS COMING FROM? YES.

ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HOW, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OR YOU'RE THINKING OF THAT? THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO, WELL, I'VE GOT SEVERAL EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T HAVE A CLASS A.

THERE'S TWO THAT I'M THINKING OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE ALLOCATING THIS COST TO.

SO NOT ALL OF MY EMPLOYEES.

I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MANY IN YOUR PRECINCT? IT'S ABOUT TWO RIGHT NOW.

AND Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO ADOPT A POLICY THAT WOULD ESTABLISH WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR IT.

BECAUSE IF SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHOM YOU ALLOW TO TAKE, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THE FEE WAS LOOKED UP FOR THE ACTUAL, UH, C D L AND IT'S $97 AND IT SAYS EXPIRES IN EIGHT YEARS.

THERE WE GO.

LAST TIME I RENEWED MINE, IT WAS GOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS.

ON DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON ADDING A STOP SIGN AT COLLEGE STREET BY THE PEACE OR POST OFFICE.

USED TO BE TWO OR THREE YEARS.

NOW THEY'VE MADE IT EIGHT YEARS.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

I JUST READING MINE.

YEAH, IT'S AMAZING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHAT'S THAT? A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

FINAL DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION FAILS.

THREE, TWO.

LET'S GO.

ITEM IN

[7.M. Discuss/Take action on adding a stop sign on College Street by the Peaster Post Office. (Commissioner Holt) PUBLIC HEARING]

UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS, UH, STOP SIGN WAS ADDED OR WAS REQUESTED, I SHOULD SAY, BY THE MAYOR OF PESTER, MR. GERALD HOBSON.

AND IT'S TO IMPROVE SAFETY.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE AND THE INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL THERE IN PESTER.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 19.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM I M I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS IS PROBABLY BE A GOOD POINT TO ASK.

IS THIS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PI? YES.

THEY HAVE TO ADOPT THEIR OWN, THEY FOLLOW THE COUNTY RECOMMENDATIONS ON EVERYTHING.

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BUT WE DON'T CONTROL, UH, PUTTING STOP SIGNS OR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES INSIDE THEIR CITY.

CITY.

SO THAT'S ENTIRELY ON THEM.

THAT HAS, WE CAN PUT THE SIGN UP.

THEY'LL HAVE TO ADOPT IT.

I'LL THEM KNOW.

THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT TOO.

ANYTHING ELSE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 20 AND GO TO THE ITEM.

I WOULD ASSUME IT'S TAKE NO ACTION SINCE IT'S INSIDE THE LOBBY.

IT IS CORRECT.

LOBBY.

DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON ADDING A STOP SIGN ON JUPITER TRAIL OFF OLD AGNES ROAD.

WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ITEM IN.

GOOD ITEM IN

[7.N. Discuss/Take action on adding a stop sign on Jupiter Trail off Old Agnes Road. (Commissioner Holt) PUBLIC HEARING]

UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, THIS IS A INTERESTING ROAD BECAUSE THE, THE PRIMARY ROAD HAS A CURVE IN IT WHERE ANOTHER ROAD CONNECTS TO THE CURVE.

SO WHAT APPEARS TO BE, IF YOU'VE NEVER DRIVEN THE ROAD BEFORE, YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT AND STAYING ON THE MAIN ROAD.

YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING ONTO A SEPARATE ROAD.

IT'S KIND OF A Y BUT ONE OF THE LEGS OF THE Y IS STRAIGHT TO THE STEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY AND IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY SO FOLKS KNOW WHICH ROAD ENTERING THE OTHER HAS A PRIORITY, WE'D LIKE TO ADD A STOP SIGN THERE.

SO, AND THIS IS NOT INSIDE OF ANY CITY LIMITS.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

UH, WE NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 21.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? UNDER ITEM I IN? THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

FOR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 21 AND GO TO THE ITEM.

COMMISSIONER HOLTZ MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER WALDENS MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

PAULA, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS SORT OF A WIDE DEAL THERE.

THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE A LOT OF OUR STOP SIGN AREAS, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN PRECINCT ONE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT ALSO.

'CAUSE JUST FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WHETHER THEY STOP OR NOT, THAT'S UP TO THEM.

BUT WE'RE DOWN SIDE.

WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT'S FOR ALL IN BE SITTING THERE AT THE TIME.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AUTHORIZED COUNTY JUDGES ON AIRED CARE, NETWORKING, AIRED CARE.

OH, GOOD ITEM MO AND APPROVE

[7.O. Approve and authorize County Judge to sign AirMed Care Network and Airmed Care FLY U Home for payroll deduct only for Parker County agreement. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

FLY YOU HOME FOR PAYROLL.

DEDUCT ONLY FOR PARKER COUNTY AGREEMENT.

UH, MR. MCCULLOUGH, THIS, THIS IS JUST OUR ANNUAL AGREEMENT WITH AIRED, UM, WHERE EMPLOYEES CAN CHOOSE THIS BENEFIT.

THAT'S THE ZERO COST TO THE COUNTY AND IT IS JUST GO BY THE PAYROLL DEDUCTION IN THE FIRST PAYROLL IN OCTOBER.

SOLE MOVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL, I'M SORRY, CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

Q AND DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON APPOINTING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

OKAY, WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO ITEM

[7.Q. Discuss/Take action on appointing Transportation Committee. (Judge Deen)]

UH, AS WE PROCEED AND, AND, UH, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO OR CAN AND CAN'T SAY, UH, IS, IS AND WHAT OUR ROLE IS AS COMMISSIONERS AND MYSELF IS TO, TO STATE FACTS AND, AND WE'VE HAD ABOUT SEVEN TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND EXPECT AT LEAST PROBABLY 25 MORE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 7TH.

THE ONE THING WE CAN'T DO IS TELL SOMEBODY TO GO VOTE FOR IT.

WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PROMOTE IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE ENCOURAGING THEM TO VOTE FOR THIS.

WHAT WE DO IS WE'RE AN EDUCATIONAL ENTITY TO WHERE WE, WE WE STATE THE FACTS ON WHAT THE NEED IS.

STATING A NEED ON WHAT THIS COUNTY REQUIRES IS NOT ILLEGAL, BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT.

WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD DO IS IT BE AN EXTENSION ARMED OF THE COURT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND, AND, AND ALSO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER TO PROMOTE IT.

IF THAT'S WHAT THEY SEE.

IF THEY, IF THEY SUPPORT IT, PUT YARD SIGNS IN AND THERE WOULD BE A PACK THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT ENTITY THAT WOULD BE CREATED.

BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT OURSELF.

THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.

UH, WHAT I'M ASKING THE COURT TO DO IS APPOINT A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE PRECINCT TO GO OUT AND SUPPORT WORK TOGETHER, ESTABLISH A MISSION TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEIR GOAL WOULD BE IS TO, UM, ONE, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS CRITICAL AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A COURT TO DO THAT, BUT TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER

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THAT, UH, THAT WOULD GO OUT AND PROMOTE THIS AS WELL.

BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT.

IT'S A CRITICAL, CRITICAL PIECE TO THIS THING BEING, UH, PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD, IF YOU WILL.

AND I WOULD ASK FOR A NAME FROM EACH OF YOU.

AND WE'VE MADE, MADE Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT.

WE, WE ACTUALLY EXTENDED THIS OUT TO WHERE IT'LL GIVE YOU TIME TO DO THAT.

AND WHAT I'M, WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU NOW IS TO PROVIDE A NAME THAT WE WOULD PUT, UH, WE WILL WORK WITH THAT COMMITTEE.

THEY WILL WORK WITH RESA NICHOLS THAT WILL BE WELL EDUCATED.

THEY WILL MEET AND, UH, THEY WILL BE VERY, VERY ORGANIZED.

I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND START THIS, UM, THAT I HAVE MET WITH, UH, MR. MARK ANDERSON, UH, WHO ACTUALLY LIVES IN BETWEEN, ACTUALLY IT'S CLOSE TO BETWEEN PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT TWO, UM, THAT IS WILLING TO, TO STEP UP AND SERVE ON THIS BOARD.

AND IS IS ALREADY GIVEN HIS ACCEPTANCE OF THAT.

MR. KEN DAVIS, PRECINCT TWO, UH, COMMISSIONER HILL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU.

UH, SOMEBODY FROM YOUR PRECINCT, UH, HAS ASKED TO STEP UP AND THAT WOULD BE MARK HEISER, WHETHER YOU CHOOSE THAT NAME OR NOT.

I'M SORRY, RICHARD HEISER.

I'LL GET A RIDE PRESENT TO, UM, BUT HE IS STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF WANTING TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO, UH, A PRECINCT TOO, IS WHAT? I'M SORRY.

PRECINCT FOUR.

MR. HEISER LIVES IN PRECINCT TWO.

OH, MR. HEISER LIVES IN PRECINCT TWO, CORRECT? I THOUGHT HE WAS IN FOUR.

MY APOLOGIES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MATTERS THOUGH.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT DOES, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

I'LL NOMINATE MR. HEISER THAT THAT WAS WHO I HAD INTENDED TO NOMINATE.

WE, WE CAN TAKE NO ACTION AND THEN ADD SOMEBODY.

WELL, I HAVE SOMEONE ELSE.

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD.

DO YOU GOT 'EM? OKAY.

I PUT JANINE ON MINE.

JUDGE, YOU, YOU, JANINE CANAL HAS, YEAH, CANAL ACCEPTED THAT AS WELL.

UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, WHO IS YOUR APPOINTEE? JAY HAMILTON.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE MARK ANDERSON, KEN DAVIS, JANINE CANNELL, JAY HAMILTON.

WHO AM I MISSING? JAY HAMILTON.

WE STILL MISS FILED PFIZER.

OH, RICHARD.

APPROVE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO CERTIFY, SIGN AND SUBMIT UPDATED MILEAGE FOR PARKER COUNTY ON THE T STOCK COUNTY ROAD INVENTORY MAP.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

FOR, FOR THIS.

UM, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THE APPOINTEE OF THESE FIVE INDIVIDUALS.

COMMISSIONER HELL HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER CONLEY HAS MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GO TO ITEM R ON DISCUSS,

[7.R. Discuss/Approve the County Judge to certify, sign, and submit updated mileage for Parker County on the TxDOT County Road Inventory Map. (Judge Deen)]

MR. WALDEN'S MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND MR. COLLEGE MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.

VOTE THAT ITEM.

M S JUDGE ON THAT LAST ONE.

WILL YOU GO THROUGH THE MILEAGE? I THINK THERE'S A UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PRECINCTS AS FAR AS THE MILEAGE.

ON R RICH, CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE THAT'S AT? 'CAUSE I CAN'T FIND IT.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU MINE, IT'S 3 0 9.

IF THE COURT, IF Y'ALL HAVE IT, WOULD Y'ALL READ IT OUT? I DON'T HAVE MINE EXACTLY.

BRIANNA PUT SOMETHING OUT.

SHE, SHE DID.

I WAS GONNA ASK WHERE SHE WAS THIS MORNING.

HEY BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE THE, UH, UPDATED ROAD MILEAGE NUMBERS? THE YEAH, THAT YOU SENT IT TO US? YEAH, WE JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S THE PROPER AMOUNT OF MILEAGE WE'RE SENDING TO THE STATE.

AND WE NEED IT IN THE MINUTES.

I'LL SAY 3 0 9 0.7.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

YOU'RE OFF A LITTLE BIT.

POINT SEVEN.

I THINK MINE WAS 700 SOMETHING, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

OKAY, LET'S SEE.

YOURS

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WAS QUITE HIGH.

SO 400 AND SOMETHING.

4 0 3 I THINK.

THE ROAD MILEAGE PROVIDED IS FOR PRECINCT 1, 3 0 6 0.66 FOR PRECINCT TWO.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT, OKAY.

PRECINCT 1 3 0 9 0.77.

I LEFT OUT A SEVEN PRECINCT 2 4 0 3 0.34.

PRECINCT 3 3 7 4 0.28.

AND PRECINCT 4 1 74 FOR A TOTAL OF 1261.38.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

WE DID.

SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, 'CAUSE IT GOT TAKEN OFF.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR? UH, WE ALREADY DONE, WE ALREADY DID IT.

WE ALREADY PASSED IT, YEAH.

S ON AN INTERLOCAL CORPORATION WITH WISE COUNTY FOR INMATE HOUSING AND TAKE ANY ACTION.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT JUST ADD THE MILEAGES.

WHY ADD THE MILEAGE? HE EXPLAINS MY CLEAR SCREEN THEN.

[7.S. Interlocal Cooperation Agreement with Wise County for Inmate Housing and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

THE COURT DEEMS NECESSARY AND THIS IS A STANDARD INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR WISE COUNTY TO HOUSE INMATES IN PARKER COUNTY WHEN BEDS ARE AVAILABLE AND THEY NEED, UH, ADDITIONAL SPACE IN WISE COUNTY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.

TAX, NET SIZE MILLIMETER STATION LICENSE AGREEMENT.

OH, GOOD ITEM T

[7.T. Tex Net Seismometer Station License Agreement and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

WOULDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION IN COURT DEEMS NECESSARY.

JOHN, AND THIS AGREEMENT'S WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS TO DO SEISMIC STUDIES IN A PARTICULAR AREA.

IT'S A LEAH LANE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHOSE PRECINCT THAT IS.

IT'S MINE.

IT'S IT'S ON THE COUNTY FARM OR FARM.

AND SO IT JUST ALLOWS THEM TO PUT EQUIPMENT ON THE COUNTY FARM.

IT'S A 10 BY 10 AREA IF THEY ENCOMPASS EQUIPMENT ENCOMPASSES AND JUST ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO GET READINGS THERE.

MOTION.

THIS A CONTINUATION CONTRACT.

IT IS A CONTINUATION CONTRACT.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

IT'S ALREADY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECONDING BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS.

ITEM U, RENEWAL CONTRACT FOR MCCAN VALLEY M H M R SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

OH, GOOD.

[7.U. Renewal Contract for Pecan Valley MHMR Services for Fiscal 2023/2024 year. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

24.

JOHN.

AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION CONTRACT AS WELL FOR THE CON VALLEY M H M R TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO PARKER COUNTY CITIZENS.

IS THERE A COST INVOLVED? THE COST THERE? THERE IS A COST AND THE COST INDIVIDUAL RATE $25 PER HOUR FOR DETENTION AND TRANSPORTATION AND THEN, UH, WITH THE MINIMUM AND $50 GUARANTEED.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR.

IT AS LAST YEAR.

SAME AS LAST YEAR.

SAME MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

AND EXECUTE JUVENILE PROBATION CONTRACT WITH WOOD AND ASSOCIATES FOR POLYGRAPH SERVICES AND TAKE ANY ACTION.

OH, GOOD.

ITEM B, REVIEW

[7.V. Review and Execute Juvenile Probation Contract with Wood and Associates for Polygraph Services and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

THE QUORUM DEAN'S NECESSARY.

JOHN.

AND THIS IS ALSO A CONTINUATION CONTRACT WITH WOODEN AND ASSOCIATES TO PERFORM POLYGRAPH SERVICES FOR OUR JUVENILE FACILITIES.

WHAT DO THEY CHARGE FOR POLYGRAPH TESTS? 250 PER POLYGRAPH EXAM IS A RATE INCREASE ON THIS ONE.

THERE IS NOT.

WHO DETERMINES WHETHER WE NEED THAT OR NOT? AND JEFF, YOU MAY WANNA COMMENT ON THAT.

AND, AND I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE THE JUDGE, DISTRICT JUDGE IS GONNA ORDER THAT, BUT IT'S NOT ADMISSIBLE IN COURT.

WHAT, UH, JEFF SWAIN, PARKER COUNTY DA.

UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO WITH BOTH JUVENILE AND, UH, ADULT SEX OFFENDERS.

UH, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO THE POLYGRAPH, NOT ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE ARE DRUGS.

UM, THEY DO WHAT THEY CALL MAINTENANCE POLYGRAPHS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY THEY GO THROUGH AND, AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS RELATED TO, HAVE YOU COMMITTED ANY NEW OFFENSES? ARE YOU BEING TRUTHFUL WITH YOUR SEX OFFENDER TREATMENT PROVIDER? UM, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO HOPEFULLY GET THESE, THESE JUVENILES TO FOLLOW THE, THE LAW AND NOT DO THAT AGAIN.

SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE USED FOR.

WE UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT.

DO YOU ANSWER THIS? NO, YOU GOT IT.

I SHOULD HAVE ASKED ASHLEY, HERE'S A JOKE.

SORRY.

ASHLEY .

I JUST, I IF WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE SAME SERVICES FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT .

WE HAVE THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE, THE SECOND BIBLE, CAPTAIN WALDEN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

AND EXECUTE JUVENILE PROBATION CONTRACT WITH NICOLE COMSTOCK,

OH GOOD.

ITEM W REVIEW

[7.W. Review and Execute Juvenile Probation Contract with Nicole Comstock GED Teacher and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

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G E D TEACHER AND TAKE ANY ACTION THE COURT DEEMS NECESSARY, JOHN.

AND THIS IS ALSO A CONTINUATION CONTRACT TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR G E D.

SO THESE STUDENTS CAN GO IN AND GET THEIR EDUCATIONAL DIPLOMA OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY DEFER US FROM J J A E P IN WHEN THEY DO THIS.

SO I'D REFER TO ASHLEY ON THIS ONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

UM, WE DO HAVE A G E D TEACHER THAT COMES, UM, TO THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO DO G E D PREP COURSES.

SHE DETERMINES WHERE THEY START AND WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO EFFICIENTLY TAKE AND PASS THEIR G E D.

SO WE, WE JUST CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT SERVICES TO OUR PROBATIONERS.

AND SO THE, THE COUNTY'S ASKED TO PAY FOR THIS G E D? YES.

HOW MUCH ARE THOSE CHEAPER THAN THE J J A E P? YEAH, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT TOO.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO INCREASE.

THE STATE IS MAKING THE COUNTIES TAKE OVER ALL THIS JUVENILE STUFF.

IS THAT RIGHT, JOHN? OR THEY ARE.

SO IT'S $40 PER HOUR FOR G E D PREP AND OBVIOUSLY $20 HALF HOUR.

AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE WE GOT OVER 150,000 PEOPLE.

1 25.

NOT THIS, NOT THIS.

THAT'S AT J J A E P.

I KNOW, BUT IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALING AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HA.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS.

ITEM X CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION INTERNSHIP AGREEMENT WITH WEATHERFORD HIGH SCHOOL AND TAKE ANY ACTION.

OH.

GOT ITEM W, REVIEW AND EXECUTE JUVENILE PROGRAM CONTRACT.

OH NO, JUST DID THAT ONE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GO TO

[7.X. Career and Technical Education Internship Agreement with Weatherford High School and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

THE COURT DEEMS THIS AT JOHN.

UH, YES.

I'M GONNA HAVE AN INTERN, UH, WORK IN MY OFFICE AGAIN.

SO JUST WANTED TO GET APPROVAL THROUGH THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL TO, TO DO SO.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.

DOWN TO ITEM EIGHT AND ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE

[ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES]

DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF PROPERTY SEIZED BY PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NINE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 4, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

CAN WE MOVE UP TO

[4.D.1. Interdepartmental transfers of equipment and inventory reports.]

FOUR? I'M SORRY, KIM.

UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

MAKE YOU WAIT, WHICH, WHICH ITEM ARE YOU ASKING FOR? ? NO, WE'LL CONSENT.

UNDER CONSENT.

YEAH, IT'S UNDER CONSENT.

WE'LL JUST RUN, WE'LL JUST RUN DOWN THOSE REAL QUICK.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ITEM D ONE.

INTERDEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS OR EQUIPMENT INVENTORY REPORTS.

I DO HAVE SOME INTERDEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS AND THEY ARE, UM, IT RELATED EQUIPMENT WITH COMPUTERS AND LAPTOPS AND THEN SOME MOTOROLA RADIOS THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO SURPLUS AND AUCTIONED.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

TWO, APPROVE THE SALVAGE AND DESTRUCTION OF UNSOLD AUCTION ITEMS. WE HAD SEVERAL AUCTION ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, UNSOLD AND IT'S MOSTLY, UM, THERE'S SOME COMPUTERS AND LAPTOPS THAT NEED TO BE DESTROYED, UM, AND SOME MORE PHONES AND, UM, SOME DESKS THAT DID NOT SELL AGAIN.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR WE HAVE A MOTION? I BACK, COMMISSIONER HALES MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

UM, MR. WALLACE MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR HAS FIVE.

OH, IT'S GOT ITEM

[4.D.2. Approve the salvage & destruction of unsold auction items. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GET AUTHORIZATION TO DESTROY OR DISPOSE OF THOSE ITEMS. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER WALLS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER HOLMES MADE THE SECOND.

ANY, THE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO UP? ARE THE DESK WOOD OR METAL? UH, THEY'RE WOOD AND THEIR DRAWERS ARE BROKEN.

AND THERE'S A ONE THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WAS DAMAGED IN THE RESTORATION PROJECT.

AND SO THERE WE, WE'VE TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES AGAIN ON SOME OF THIS FURNITURE TO SELL.

WE ALL WOOD.

I'M, I'M JUST GETTING AT THE MEADOW PART.

OH YEAH.

NO, NO, THEY'RE WOULD, THEY'RE WOULD AND, OR, OR THE PRESS BOARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PASS BY VOTE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PASSIFY BY GOOD ITEM THREE.

AND

[4.D.3. Accept/Reject/Renew REP PC23-49 Copiet/MFD/Printer/ Wide Format Fleet Management. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

EXCEPT REJECT RENEW.

R F P PC 23 DASH 49 COPIER.

M F D PRINTER WIDE FORMAT FLEET MANAGEMENT.

KIM.

SO WE RECEIVED NON RESPONSES FOR THIS R F P AND UM, AFTER CAREFUL REVIEW BY, UM, JAMES K WITH THE IT DIRECTOR AND MYSELF, UM, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REJECT ALL THE RESPONSES TO THIS R F P.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WILL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.

VOTE, MOVE SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONNELLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

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ON, UH, THE D I R PC 23 DASH 57 COPIER, M F D PRINTER WIDE FORMAT RENTAL FLEET MANAGEMENT FOR PARKER COUNTY, UH, KIM.

ITEM FOUR

[4.D.4. DIR PC23-57 Copier/MFD/Printer/Wide Format Rental Fleet Management for Parker County. (Kim Rivas / James Caywood / Judge Deen)]

SO I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE, UM, A CONTRACT WITH U B O.

THEY ARE A FORMER, UM, PROVIDER FOR OUR COPIERS AND PRINTERS AND, UM, WIDE FORMAT.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO A CONTRACT WITH THEM THROUGH THE D I R CONTRACT FOR A RENTAL AGREEMENT.

AND IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE, IT GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN.

UM, SO I'M ASKING THE COURT TO DETERMINE WHICH OPTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH.

UM, OPTION ONE WOULD BE JUST FOR THE RICO PRINTERS, WHICH IS, UH, RICO MFPS, UM, WHICH ARE MULTIFUNCTION DEVICES THAT DO COPY, SCAN, PRINT, AND FAX.

UM, AND FOR THOSE, FOR GENERAL FUND ALONE IS $8,698 A MONTH.

BUT IF YOU TAKE ALL THE, THE FUNDS, UM, THE PRECINCTS, ADULT PROBATION, JUVENILE PROBATION AND EVERYTHING, YOU ADD FAX BOARDS.

UM, WE DO, THERE IS A PAPER CUT SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT'S A VIRTUAL PRINT THAT IS WILL, AND, AND THEY'RE HERE TO JUST EXPLAIN IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

BUT THIS SAVES, UM, ON PRINTING, ACCIDENTAL PRINTING OF THINGS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU PRINT SOMETHING AND OH, I NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING AND SO REPRINTS AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, WITH THIS SOFTWARE IT SHOULD BE A 30% REDUCTION IN OUR PRINTS, WHICH WILL SAVE US ON, ON PAPER IN THE LONG RUN AS WELL.

SO, AND THEN THE UNMANAGED TONER THAT WE CURRENTLY BUY ON PRINTERS AND COPIERS THAT WE HAVE REESTABLISHED INTO OUR FLEET PROGRAM THAT, UM, WE REPLACED SOME OF THE IMAGENET DEVICES WITH PREVIOUSLY RENTED THAT WE BOUGHT U B O DEVICES, THOSE TOTALS.

UM, TONER IS $3,767 A MONTH.

SO FOR A TOTAL OF ALL THE FUNDS PER MONTH, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10,000 459 50 LESS THE SAVINGS, WHICH WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO $5,812 PER MONTH FOR ALL FUNDS.

UM, IT SHOULD BE A TOTAL OF 117,940 FOR ALL FUNDS, WHICH IS STILL A SAVINGS WHEN, WHEN YOU CONSIDER, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT SPENDS ON, UM, TICKETS, WORK ORDER TICKETS.

THEY, THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THESE PRINTERS AND STUFF AND ALL THAT WILL BE HANDLED BY THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH U B O AS WELL.

SO IT'S AN OVERALL SAVINGS AND, AND BETTER, BETTER SITUATION ALL AROUND.

WE'VE KIND OF LIMPED THROUGH.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO PAYING OFF THE FINAL TWO YEARS OF OUR IMAGE NET LEASE I WAS GONNA ASK.

AND UM, ALSO ON TOP OF THAT COST, SENDING BACK ALL THE IMAGE NET.

UM, SO IT'S OVER A HUNDRED AND, UH, 70 A HUNDRED, 170,000 PLUS THE RETURN OF THE EQUIPMENT.

SO THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE DUG HARD AND WORKED HARD TO GET, GET US BACK INTO THE SHAPE WE NEED TO BE IN, IN THIS ARENA.

I MEAN WE, WE CAN HOLD OFF AND, AND WE WE NEED TO KNOW, WE NEED TO SO DO, IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME, Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS? YES.

ANY THAT GO THROUGH.

SO IF REAL QUICK, SO THE ONE 17 WOULD BE FOR ALL OF THE RICOH PRINTERS PLUS ALL THE QERA PRINTERS THAT'S ARE DESKTOP PRINTERS THAT WE WOULD REPLACE LIKE FOR LIKE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

MR. IT YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THIS? I SEE YOU UP THERE SQUIRMING AROUND .

WELL, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, THE PREVIOUS VENDOR, UH, SOME OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THEY'RE NOT AS RESPONSIVE AND WE HAVE TAKEN PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, 10 PRINTING TICKETS EVERY DAY, TRY TO HELP, UH, KEEP THIS GOING.

AND THEY ARE PER PRINT, SO WE PAY EVERY TIME ANYONE PRINTS ANYTHING, UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE PAY THE CURRENT ONE.

SO NOW, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING TWO OPTIONS.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO GET U B E O IN HERE TO HELP US RESOLVE THAT ISSUE.

SO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO REPLACE ALL THE HARDWARE, UH, GOING FORWARD OR WE JUST DO THE MULTIFUNCTION AND I WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, NOT SO WE DON'T, PEOPLE CAN'T PRINT WHAT THEY USED TO.

THE THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM IN THE DOOR BEST WE CAN, UH, SATISFY COSTING AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON ADDING THINGS TO THE LEASE, UH, WITH Y'ALL'S PERMISSION GOING FORWARD.

SO HERE'S THE DEAL.

Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND YOU'RE ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, WHICH IS BEST.

WELL, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHICH IS THE BEST AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

UM,

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AND AND YOU'RE ASKING US TODAY TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST DEAL.

WE WANT THE BEST DEAL, RIGHT.

GO FORTH AND GET THE BEST DEAL FOR THE COUNTY.

HOW ABOUT THAT? OH, .

I AGREE.

AND THAT'S WHAT, SO WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR THE COURT TO DETERMINE DO WE JUST GO WITH THE RF, THE RICOS, THE MFPS? MM-HMM.

OR DO, ARE WE GONNA ALLOW DESKTOP PRINTERS STILL? WELL, WE'RE ASKING WHAT'S THE BEST TO GIVE US YOUR, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY AND WHAT'S GONNA SAVE THE COUNTY THE MOST MONEY? THIS IS WITHOUT WHAT'S GONNA SAVE THE MONEY IS IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT A, A COPIER, A PRINTER ON THEIR DESK AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GET UP AND GET Y YES SIR.

SO, SO WHAT WE CAN DO IF, IF YOU DETERMINE NOT TO DO THE DESKTOP PRINTERS, THERE WOULD BE, UM, THERE'S SOME LESS EXPENSIVE SMALLER MFPS THAT WE COULD ADD A COUPLE OF THOSE TO EACH OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE DESKTOP PRINTERS AT EACH DESK.

UM, THERE'S ALSO WITH THIS, UM, SOFTWARE, IT'S A BADGE SYSTEM.

AND SO A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, CONFIDENTIALITY ON WHAT THEY'RE PRINTING.

MM-HMM .

AND WITH THIS BADGE, YOU GO UP, YOU SCAN YOUR BADGE AND IT PRINTS AT THAT POINT, NOT SENDS IT TO THE PRINTER, YOU'RE AT YOUR DESK AND SOMEBODY COULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE THOSE PRINTS THAT ARE, DON'T BELONG TO THEM.

JAMES, GIVE US YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE IT.

RECOMMENDATION IS MOVE FORWARD, GET U B O IN HERE WITH THE MULTI-FUNCTION PRINTERS AND THEN WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN WE COME BACK AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO ADD THIS, THIS, THIS AT THIS COST AND IT'LL BE, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE AT 120.

SO, SO FOR DESKTOP PRINTERS? YES.

CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE IT DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

APPROVE THE DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR JUDGE YOU BRIANNA.

BRIANNA? WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE A CURRENT LEASE IN PLACE, I WOULD ALSO ASK, UM, FOR A PURCHASING AGENT AND COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK TO GIVE NOTICE TO CANCEL THAT CONTRACT.

WANNA GO BACK TO SEVEN F ON DISCUSSION.

YOU WANT A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THAT? I CAN.

YOU WANT ME JUST PUT IT ALL IN ONE? YEP.

PROVE IT PLEASE.

THANK YOU KIM.

SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT, I WANT TO, I

[7.F. Discuss/Take action on hourly rate increase for election judges & clerks. (Crickett Miller / Judge Deen)]

TAKE ONE SECOND.

JUDGE, PLEASE.

HOW LONG WE CATCH UP? YOU DON'T MIND? I, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST GET YOU READY.

CRICKET, IF YOU WOULD COME UP.

I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT, YOU GOT BURIED IN THE BUDGET STUFF.

DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON AN HOURLY RATE INCREASE FOR ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS.

AND IT REALLY IS KIND OF A BUDGET THING, BUT I WANT TO GET YOU IN AND OUTTA HERE.

OKAY? THANK YOU.

UM, SEVEN.

I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING THE BUDGET STILL TODAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I'VE REQUESTED TO GO TO 15 AND 13 FOR OUR ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS.

UM, I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT IF YOU WANT TO WHAT'S IN MY BUDGET, WE CAN GIVE EVERYBODY A $1 RAISE AND I DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE MY BUDGET.

SO I WANTED TO GET THAT IF WE COULD GET THAT APPROVED AND THEN IF Y'ALL DID DECIDE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS TO GO AHEAD AND INCREASE IT TO 15 AND 13, YOU STILL HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

I'LL MOVE THAT WE, UH, GIVE BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS.

UH, $1 PER HOUR RAISE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.

TO ITEM NINE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MOTION PASS PROGRAM.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK Y'ALL.

SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT.

I'M SURE SHE ENJOYED IT.

OH, I BET SHE DID.

LISTENING TO ALL THOSE WE MOVED

[EXECUTIVE SESSION:]

IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 4, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE RESERVING THE RIGHT TO MEET AND CLOSE SESSION.

DISCUSS ITEM A DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON PERMITTING DEPARTMENT.

UH, IT IS 10 49.

LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 11 O'CLOCK.

RESUME FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT RECORDS SHOW 1132

[9.A. Discuss/Take action on Permitting Department. (Judge Deen)]

AND MOVE TO ITEM NINE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UNDER ITEM A DISCUSSED TAKE ACTION ON PERMITTING DEPARTMENT.

JUDGE, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE TERMINATE THE EMPLOYMENT OF MR. RYAN MOWRY AFFECTED TODAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN

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FAVOR PASS.

FOUR.

OH,

[10.A. PRECINCT 1]

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 10 A ONE.

APPROVE THE, OKAY, I'LL LET Y'ALL GET SETTLED.

YOU WANNA, JAMIE, WE'RE PLATING.

CAN'T HEAR.

SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM TO MAY ONE ON PRECINCT ONE.

APPROVE THE AMENDMENT FOR JAMIE ACRES LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE.

THIS IS JUST, UH, TO FIX A CLERICAL ERROR ON THE FACE OF THAT PLAT.

WE JUST APPROVED THIS SO ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, WELL, ACTUALLY IN AUGUST, SO JUST LIKE TO GET THIS AMENDMENT FILED IN PLEASE.

OKAY, COUNSELOR, EVERYTHING GOOD TO, TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT AND I HAVE REVIEWED THE AMENDMENT AND EVERYTHING IS MEETS LEGAL FORMS. MOVE TO APPROVE 10 A ONE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HA.

ITEM TWO, RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR WINDMILL CREEK SUBDIVISION AND PRECINCT ONE AND THE PRECINCT HAS RELEASED UH, THIS LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE AND WE JUST LIKE TO ACCEPT WEILL CREEKS DRIVE AS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY.

COUNSELOR, EVERYTHING'S GOOD FOR YEAH, AS LONG AS THE INSPECTION ON THE ROAD MEETS THE COUNTY STANDARD, WE'RE JUST RELEASING THE CONSTRUCTION AND ACCEPTANCE MAINTENANCE.

NO ACCEPTANCE OF THE ROADS.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO WE NEED TO, OKAY.

MOTION THEN I'M, OKAY.

SO WE ARE ACCEPTING THE LETTER FOR MAINTENANCE.

SO EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER FOR THE LETTER OF MAINTENANCE, MOVE TO APPROVE 10 A THREE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.

NOT RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE.

SHE CAN DO THAT.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

MOTION RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT.

MOTION.

MOTION CONLEY WHO WE'RE RELEASING THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND ACCEPTING THE LETTER OF CREDIT MAINTENANCE.

WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT, NEXT ITEM.

SO TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT.

OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON THIS? NO.

NO ACTION ON TWO.

OKAY, GOOD.

ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE FINAL PLATT FOR SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS FRIENDSHIP HILL CONSISTED OF FIVE ACRES DEVELOPED BY SAM GANDY AND MONICA GANDY LOCATED OFF OF FRIENDSHIP ROAD IN WELL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.

THIS IS JUST A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION, UH, LOCATED OFF OF FRIENDSHIP ROAD.

THEY DO HAVE WELL WATER AS WATER SOURCE AND THEY'RE ALSO DONATING UH, 0.2 FOURS OF AN ACRE OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY OFF FRIENDSHIP ROAD.

COUNSEL, EVERYTHING GOOD FOR THE FINAL? THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

MOVE TO APPROVE 10 A THREE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.

ITEM FOUR, ACCEPT THE SPECIAL WARRANTY DEEDED FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAYS FOR FRIENDSHIP HILL AND PRECINCT ONE.

AND THIS IS FOR, UH, THE ADDITIONAL 0.247 ACRE OF RILEY OFF OF FRIENDSHIP HILL.

COUNSELOR, EVERYTHING GOOD AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO ACCEPT THE SPECIAL WARRANTY.

MOVE TO APPROVE 10 A FOUR AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

THROUGH WALNUT CREEK, SS U D AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

PASS FOUR.

OH GOOD.

ITEM FIVE, APPROVE THE FINAL.

IS THAT A GATE? PARDON ME.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I SAW I'D GO FOR DO THAT.

SO I I TOOK THE ASSUMPTION.

SORRY.

I APPROVE THE FINAL PROVISION PROCESS FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS VINTAGE OAKS CONSIST OF 2.059 ACRES DEVELOPED BY FINNEY ESTATES L L C LOCATED OFF OF BE STATION ROAD WITH WALNUT CREEK, WALNUT CREEK WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS IS A COMBINATION OF LOTS, UH, 29 AND 30 AND THE ADDITION OF LOT X IN PHASE TWO AND THREE TO THE UH, LOT 30.

UH, THEY HAVE WALNUT CREEK WATER SUPPLY.

WE RAN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE, BUT DID NOT SEND OUT ANY CERTIFIED LETTERS.

OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1137.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM TEN FOUR PRECINCT ONE HERE AT ON SCENE NINE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1137 AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSELOR.

EVERYTHING GOOD TO APPROVE THE FINAL? UH, YES.

PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER LISTING THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING AS YOUR BALANCE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER

[01:55:01]

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNELLY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE FOUR OH GOOD.

ITEM SIX, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION PROCESS FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS TRAVEL ADDITION THAT CONSIST OF 21.528 ACRES DEVELOPED BY AMY TRAVER LOCATED OFF OF HIGHWAY 1 99 IN WELL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS A TWO LOT, UH, REVISION LOT.

TWO R ONE'S GONNA HAVE 18.998 ACRES AND TWO R TWO IS GONNA HAVE 2.53 ACRES.

UH, WE DID NOT SEND OUT ANY LETTERS, UM, AS THERE WERE NO OTHER OWNERS.

WE DID RUN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE.

OKAY, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1138.

I WAS WAITING ON TO PASS THAT TO ME.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX HERE? NONE.

SCENE NONE.

WE'LL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 1139.

MOVE TO THE ITEM.

COUNSEL.

EVERYTHING GOOD FOR A FINAL PROPER NOTICE WAS LISTED IN THE NEWSPAPER, LISTED THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING.

CERTIFIED LETTERS WEREN'T SENT AS STATED PREVIOUSLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT NO ADDITIONAL LOTS WERE SOLD, THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO OWNERS.

THE DEVELOPER DID PROVIDE A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL.

MOVING TO APPROVE 10 A SIX MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

OH THAT.

ITEM SEVEN APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION PROCESS FOR A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS OAK GROVE.

ADDITION CONSISTING OF 98.975 ACRES DEVELOPED BY THIS BOOM.

BOOMI HOLDINGS OFT THE LOCATED OFF OF MILL ROAD WITH WALNUT CREEK WATER S U OR S U D IN PRECINCT ONE.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS REVISION HAD NO LOT SIZE CHANGES.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO ABANDON THE SPECIFIC DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT AND TO CREATE NEW DRAINAGE EASEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE DRAINAGE CREATURES AND BUILDING SETBACK LINES THAT HAVE BEEN REVISED ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND SIDEWALKS.

UH, NO.

LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD AS OF THIS DATE.

SO WE DIDN'T SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS BUT IT DIDN'T RUN THE ADS IN THE PAPER AS FOR THE STATUTE.

OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1140.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM TEN SEVEN PRECINCT? ONE HEARING UNSEEN ITEM, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSELOR.

EVERYTHING GOOD FOR A FINAL AND PROPER NOTICE WAS LISTED IN THE PAPER LISTING THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING, UH, THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T HAVE TO SEND THE LETTERS DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WAS A REDESIGN.

UH, AND THAT INCLUDED LOTS AND WATER EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS HAS PROVIDED APPROVAL FOR PUBLIC WATER THROUGH WALNUT CREEK SS U D AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE MOVE TO APPROVE 10 A SEVEN.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

OH UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE DOWN TO ITEM B TWO.

UM, ACTUALLY WE'VE DONE B ONE ALREADY SO

[10.B. PRECINCT 2 (Part 3 of 4)]

WE JUST MOVE TO B TWO.

RELEASE A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR QUAIL POINT AND ACCEPT MONTECARLO COURT AS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY IN PRECINCT TWO AND THE PRECINCT HAS APPROVED THE UH, RELEASE OF THIS LETTER OF CREDIT AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF MONTECARLO COURT AS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY.

COUNSELOR THE DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO DO SO AS LONG AS THE ROAD'S BEEN INSPECTED AND APPROVED TO COUNTY'S STANDARDS MAKE MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALE.

ITEM B THREE HERE ON C NINE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1142 AND GO TO THE ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY.

PASS FOUR.

OH WE'LL GO TO ITEM THREE ON APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR MEETS AND BOUNDS FOR THE OAKS OF PARKER COUNTY CONSISTING OF 4.98 ACRES DEVELOPED BY KEITH AND KAREN SCHNEIDER.

CAROL DYER.

BARRY FLOYD LOCATED OFF OF OAK CLIFF COURT IN OAK BEND LANE WITH LOW WATER AND PRECINCT TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS IS A DIVISION OF ABOUT 16 R AND 21 R.

THEY'RE TAKING 16 R DOWN TO 2.024 ACRES AND 21 R DOWN TO 2.956 ACRES.

UH, NO LETTERS OF THIS IS A REVISION BY MEETS AND BOUNDS AND WE DID RUN ADS IN THE PAPER AS UH, FOR .

OKAY, WELL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1142.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON

[02:00:01]

COUNSEL ARE ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER? PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE PAPER.

LISTEN, DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL.

MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE NINE B THREE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND, BUT COMMISSIONER HALE.

ALL IN FAVOR PASS FOUR OH WE MOVE TO ITEM FOUR ON APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS VH RANCH ESTATES CONSIST OF 71 POINT 17 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF RED TOP ROAD DEVELOPED BY THIRD PERIOD PARTNERS, L L C WITH OIL, WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.

AND UH, THIS SUBDIVISION IS UH, GONNA BE BROKEN UP INTO 33 LOTS.

THESE RANGE IN SIZE FROM 2.02 ACRES TO 2.5 ACRES.

UH, THIS PLATT WAS STARTED BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

SO GROUNDWATER STUDY, UM, WAIVER WAS WAIVED BY THE PRECINCT.

UH, WELL WATER AND THESE PLATS WILL BE PULLING WATER RIGHTS TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A LETTER OF CREDIT AS WELL.

OKAY, COUNSEL ARE ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER? THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE.

THE PERMIT MEETING DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND WHAT JAMIE WAS STATING AS FAR AS THE WATER RIGHTS TO THE MIDDLE OF THE, THE ROAD, MEANING THAT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHTS TO HAVE TWO ACRES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WHEN THEY ARE DEDICATING THE ROAD SURFACE TO THE COUNTY.

SO THEIR ACTUAL LOT SIZE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE TWO ACRES.

ALRIGHT, MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE B FOUR MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

OH WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FIVE.

ACCEPT THE LINE OF CREDIT FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR VH RANCH ESTATES IN PRECINCT TWO.

THIS LETTER OF CREDIT'S GONNA BE IN PLACE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2024 AND IT'S IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,540.

OKAY, COUNSEL, ARE ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER FOR THE LETTER OF CREDIT? YES.

MAKE THE MOTION FOR B FIVE MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

PASS FOUR.

OH GOOD.

ITEM SIX, EXTEND THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR AMBER MEADOWS PHASE TWO FOR SIX MONTHS IN PRECINCT TWO.

THESE UH, LETTERS OF CREDIT FOR ALL THREE OF THE FOLLOWING SUBDIVISIONS, UH, NONE OF THEM ARE UP TO COUNTY SPECS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST EXTENSIONS, UH, FOR SIX MONTHS ON THESE.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC, BUT COUNSEL, WE HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER, INCLUDING NOT PUTTING SIGNS UP, NOT RESPONDING, BASICALLY NOT DOING HIS JOB.

UM, IN ADDITION TO EXTENDING THE LETTER OF CREDIT, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I NEED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU OFFLINE, BUT AS A COUNTY, LONG STORY SHORT, WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR RULES ON THIS GUY A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND WE MIGHT BE GETTING TO THE POINT OF NEEDING TO SEND A LEGAL LETTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, THE WAY YOU ENFORCE THAT IS CALL THE BOND OKAY.

AND THEN DO IT.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT.

NO NEED FOR A LETTER.

SO CAN I ASK WHAT DO YOU DO? ANY, CAN ASK WHAT DEVELOPER THAT IS? BRIAN AMBER MEADOWS.

YEAH, BUT WHAT'S THE DEVELOPER? YEAH, BRIAN FRAZIER UNDER ONE OF HIS VARIOUS ENTITIES.

VISTA, MAYBE? OR, UH, THIS IS UNDER KAIROS HOMES.

KAIROS.

HE'S DONE MIDWAY IN YOUR PRECINCT.

ALL I KNOW YOU SAID CAIRO.

UH, BRIAN FRAZIER.

FRAZIER.

SO ON ITEM SIX WILL TAKE NO ACTION.

DO YOU WANNA CALL THEM? WELL WE'RE, WE ARE EXTENDING THE LAYER OF CREDIT, CORRECT.

CASHIER CHECKS.

SO THEY JUST, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO EXPIRING, UM, COUNSELOR THIS NEXT WEEK, WE DO WANT TO EXTEND THE LETTER OF CREDIT ON THESE SINCE THEY ARE NOT UP TO OUR STANDARDS.

CORRECT? HA HAS HE GIVEN YOU AN EXTENSION ON THOSE? HOW, HOW IS IT, IS IT UNDER A BOND OR IS IT UNDER A CASH BOND? CASHIER, HE WOULD'VE TO MAKE THE REQUEST FOR THE EXTENSION, NOT US MAKING A REQUEST OF HIM.

I'M PRETTY AT THE PRECINCT.

TALKED WITH HIM, TOLD HIM YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO MEET WITHIN SIX MONTHS TO, WE, WE NEED SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM HIM MAKING THE REQUEST.

SO OTHERWISE WE'RE CALLING THOSE BONDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING FROM HIM OR NOT.

I CAN CHECK WITH MY FOREMAN.

PRECINCT, IF THE FOREMAN COMES BACK AND TELLS ME THAT THE ROADS AREN'T READY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT I THEY'VE SPOKEN TO THEM, THEN THESE ARE CASHIER'S CHECKS.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE JUST THE FACT THAT WE'RE EXTENDING, IF THEY'VE NEVER MADE THE REQUEST, THEN THEIR ASSUMPTION'S GONNA BE THAT EXPIRED.

WELL, HOW'D WE GET IT ON THE AGENDA THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T REQUEST IT? 'CAUSE IF THE

[02:05:01]

SO I JUST THAT TIME TO GET THOSE.

SO, SO CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE JUST SKIP THESE WHILE I ASK MY FOREMAN AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE MAYBE AFTER LUNCH WE COME BACK TO VISIT.

WHICH ONES ARE WE TALKING, JACOB? THIS WOULD BE THROUGH ITEM EIGHT.

6, 7, 8, 6, 7 8.

OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM SIX OR WE, WE'LL JUST COME BACK TO IT OR JUST COME BACK TO IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE, WE CAN COME BACK TO 'EM.

ON ITEM SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, WE'LL COME BACK TO THOSE.

GO TO ITEM NINE, APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLANT SUBDIVISION.

BE KNOWN AS RIKER RIDGE CONSTITUENT OF 27.26 ACRES AVAILABLE BY NO TAX CONSTRUCTION LOCATED OFF OF GARNER EIGHT L ROAD WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.

THIS SUBDIVISION IS GONNA HAVE 10 LOTS.

THEY RANGE IN SIZE FROM TWO ACRES TO 3.491 ACRES.

UH, WELL WATER IS GONNA BE EITHER WATER SOURCE AND UH, THEY ARE GONNA BE PUTTING IN, UH, A PRIVATE ROAD CALLED SUEDE WAY.

OKAY, COUNSEL ARE ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE DEVELOPER HAS MET ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PRELIMINARY PURPOSES.

OKAY, MAKE THE MOTION FOR B NINE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FOUR OH WE'LL GO TO ITEM 10.

APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS STALLION MEADOWS ESTATES.

PHASE TWO, CONSISTENT OF 2 2 8 8 4 ACRES DEVELOPED BY STALLION MEADOWS, L L C LOCATED OFF D P S TOWER ROAD WITH WALL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.

THIS IS GONNA BE A TWO.

THIS IS A 228 ACRE TRACK OF LAND.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE BROKEN UP INTO 43 LOTS.

THE FIRST 25 LOTS RUN THROUGH JACK COUNTY AND THEN THE REMAINDER ARE IN PARKER.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANTING TODAY.

SO THE LOT SIZES ON THESE RANGE FROM 3.19 ACRES TO 11.03 ACRES, THEY ARE GONNA BE PUTTING IN PRIVATE STREETS, UM, KNOWN AS HYVEE TRAIL, MUSTANG RIDGE AND TURKEY COURT.

OKAY, COUNSELOR, ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER FOR THE FINAL PLATT, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL, AND THE DEVELOPER HAS MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE B 10 COMMISSIONER MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

OH, WE'LL GO TO ITEM C B, UH, PRECINCT THREE.

ITEM ONE.

DO WE WANNA WAIT TILL LARRY'S HERE OR CAN WE PROCEED IF WE DO, WE NEED TO DO THE LAST ONE ON ME.

11.

OH, SORRY.

11.

I SCRATCHED IT OUT BY MISTAKE.

, I WILL GO.

ITEM 11, APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR SUBDIVISION.

BEING KNOWN AS STANLEY RIDGE ESTATES CONSIST OF 28.79 ACRES DEVELOPED BY CROSSLAND DEVELOPMENT L L C LOCATED OFF OF STANLEY LANE WITH MORE WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.

THIS IS GONNA BE A FIVE FIVE TRACK SUBDIVISION.

THEY RANGE IN SIZE FROM FIVE ACRES TO SIX ACRES.

UH, LOW WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE.

THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IN ANY NEW ROADS.

THEY ARE DEDICATING, UH, 5, 9 3 ADDITIONAL.

I THINK COUNSELOR ARE ALL DOCUMENTS.

IN ORDER FOR PRELIMINARY PURPOSES, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED ALL NECESSARY LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE 11.

MOTION MADE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS FOUR OH ON C ONE PRECINCT THREE.

DO WE PROCEED? I THINK LET'S GO TO FOUR AND THEN, OKAY.

I THINK WALDEN'S BACK AFTER LUNCH.

GO TO ITEM D ONE, PRECINCT FOUR.

WE'LL

[10.D. PRECINCT 4]

HE KNOWS BETTER THAN WE DID.

YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, THERE'S FIVE HERE.

WE, WE, I DON'T HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON.

UM, D ONE RELEASED A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR BEAR CREEK RANCH HOUSE PHASE ONE AND ACCEPT WINDING CREEK TRAIL AND HIDDEN BLUFF DRIVE IS COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAYS AND THE PRECINCT HAS APPROVED THE RELEASE OF THIS, UH, LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE ROADS.

DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER? UH, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER FOR THAT RELEASE AND MAKE A MOTION TODAY.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAWLEY.

FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD, COUNSELOR.

OH THAT.

ITEM TWO, RELEASE OF LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR BARB BARBER.

TRACK AND ACCEPT BARBER TRACK ROAD AS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY AND THE PRECINCT HAS ALSO APPROVED THE RELEASE OF THIS, UH, LETTER OF CREDIT AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THAT ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH THE, FOR PARKER COUNTY SIDE AS A COUNTY

[02:10:01]

MAINTAINED ROADWAY.

AND TO EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PERFORMED AS FAR AS LEGALITIES FOR THIS PARTICULAR RELEASE.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HILL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

OH, WE GOT ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF WILL PARK FOR ROAD REPAIRS AND PRECINCT FOUR.

IS EVERYTHING IN ORDER WITH THE, WITH THE AGREEMENT.

UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THAT AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ALL IN FAVOR I GAVE YOU A PASS.

FOUR.

ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE ADDENDUM IN THE CITY OF WILLOW PARK, THE ROAD REPAIRS ON EMSLEY ROAD IN PRECINCT FOUR.

AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY JUST THE ADDENDUM TO THE INTERLOCAL WE JUST APPROVED.

AND THAT PRICE AND COST IS SET OUT BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

AND THAT IS EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.

YES SIR.

THANK I MAKE A MOTION.

APPROVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

OH.

WE WILL RECESS UNTIL ONE, ONE TEN ONE FIFTEEN.

UM, AT 1154 THE RECORD.

SHOW IT AS ONE 18.

JOHN, WE'RE ON THE PRECINCT.

THREE.

WE'RE

[10.C. PRECINCT 3]

GONNA MOVE TO PRECINCT C PRECINCT THREE.

ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HOOD COUNTY FOR THE PLATTING OF HOMESTEAD ACRES AND PRECINCT THREE.

SO THIS IS A PLATT, THAT IS HALFEN HOOD COUNTY, HALFEN PARKER AND THE CITY, UH, OR THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY OF HOOD HAS DEFERRED PLATING OVER TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

WE JUST NEED THE COURTS TO SIGN TO, UH, ALLOW THAT TO ONLY BE DONE IN PARKER AND NOT HOOD.

SO WE, WE HAVE AGREEMENT JUST READY TO BE SIGNED.

COUNSELOR, THEY HAVE EXECUTED.

WE JUST NEED TO AUTHORIZE PARKER COUNTY TO ACCEPT THAT AGREEMENT.

SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

IT MEETS WITH YOUR APPROVAL.

IT DOES.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ON HOOD COUNTY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLDEN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS FOUR OH.

MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON ACCEPTABLE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF ELEVATION ESTATES PHASE TWO AND PRECINCT THREE.

AND THIS LETTER OF CREDIT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $58,415.

AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS, UH, UNTIL AUGUST 14TH, 2025.

MOVE APPROVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOL.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS FIVE OH STRAIGHT INTO MAINTENANCE.

AND THE LAST ONE'S FIVE OH AS WELL MOVE TO ITEM THREE, BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS RIVER RANCH ON THE PRESENCE CONSISTING OF 1 0 100.

7.747 ACRES DEVELOPED BY JOHNSON RIVER RANCH, L L C LOCATED OFF OF 10 TOP ROAD WITH WELL WATER IN PRECINCT THREE.

AND THIS IS A REVISION OF LOTS.

ONE THROUGH 20, BASICALLY THE ENTIRE PLAT.

UM, TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING, RECONFIGURATIONS OF THE OVERALL BOUNDARY AND ADD LAND AREA OF FINISHED RETENTION PONDS TO THE PLATTS TO ALSO RECONFIGURE SEVERAL LOTS ABUTTING THE RETENTION POND TO TRANSFER AREA FROM LOT X TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THERE'RE ALSO RECLASSIFYING RIVER RANCH LANE, RIVER RANCH CIRCLE THE BOAT RAMP AND THE RETENTION POND.

LOTS IS H O A CONTROLLED LOTS.

THEY'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL UTILITY EASEMENTS, RETAINING WALLS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.

AND THEY'RE RELEASING A PORTION OF RIVER RANCH LANE TO RIVER OWNERSHIP TO CREATE MUTUAL PRIVATE ACCESS, EMERGENCY ACCESS POSTAL AND UTILITY EASEMENTS IN ITS PLACE.

AND THIS IS JUST TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO BEGIN THE PROCESS.

THEY HAVE MET ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.

I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM, UH, 10 C THREE.

MOTION WILL BE ABOUT COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

OH, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE AMENDMENT FOR ELEVATION OF STATES PHASE TWO AND PRECINCT THREE.

AND THIS AMENDMENT IS TO ADD A NOTARY BLOCK TO THE SIGNATURE SECTION.

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SO IT'S JUST A CLERICAL ERROR.

WE'D JUST LIKE TO GET THAT FIXED FOR THEM.

OKAY, MOVE TO APPROVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

PASS FIVE OH.

MOVE TO ITEM FIVE.

APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO CANYON CREEK RANCH, PHASE THREE, LOT 35 R BLOCK A CONSISTED OF 4.24 ACRES LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE.

THIS IS, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO CORRECT THE TYPO ALONG THE NORTHEAST LOT LINE THE BUILDING LINE DISPLAYED A 50 FOOT LOT LINE AND CORRECTED IT TO THE 20 FOOT LOT LINE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

EVERYTHING GOOD JOHN? IT IS JUST ANU PROTON.

SO EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.

MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS 5 0 6 7 8.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO JUDGE.

I'LL DEAL WITH THAT LATER.

KEEPING YOU STRAIGHT.

ACTUALLY, LALA THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

JUST TO CLARIFY, TO MAKE SURE, SURE.

THAT WE DO COVER THAT BASE.

COMMISSIONER HOLT, ON THOSE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON THOSE, CORRECT? I HAVE SOMEONE LOOKING INTO THAT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING YET.

WE'LL, WE'LL JUST WAIT AT THE END AND SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

CORRECT? WE MAY NEED TO DO .

WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO SIX ITEM SIX A ON THE DISCUSSION OF ACTIVE RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE.

[6.A. Discussion of Active and Retiree Health Insurance. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

BECKY, THIS IS JUST A NOTIFICATION WHENEVER, UM, WE, Y'ALL APPROVED INSURANCE RATES FOR THAT FIRST BUDGET COURT AND I SAID THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE ANY CHANGES TO DEDUCTIBLES.

UM, ABOUT TWO DAYS LATER, THE I R S CAME DOWN WITH A RULING AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL.

IT'S AN I R S RULE, NOT GONNA COST THE, DOESN'T COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING.

BUT FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS, INSTEAD OF THEIR DEDUCTIBLE BEING 1500, IT WILL BE 1600.

THEIR OUT-OF-POCKET MAX IS STILL 3000.

SO NO CHANGE TO OUT-OF-POCKET MAX FOR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE FAMILY OR A DEPENDENT OR A FAMILY PLAN.

THE DEDUCTIBLE WILL BE 3,200 INSTEAD OF 3000.

AGAIN, OUT-OF-POCKET MAX IS 6,000.

AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE RATES IN ANY WAY.

UM, AND IT'S A RULING DOWN, COMING DOWN FROM THE I S.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? BECKY, YOU SET UP PRETTY QUICK SO THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER.

VERY WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO UNDER, UNDER ITEM SEVEN.

WE'RE GONNA DEFER DOWN TO ITEM C ON THE DISCUSSED VOTE ON PROPOSED ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.

[7.C. Discuss/Vote on proposed elected officials salaries. (Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CHART THAT I GAVE Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO DID HAVE SOME HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, THINGS ON THERE WHERE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE ASKING FOR SOME INCREASES.

THE $10,000 INCREASE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK, THE DISTRICT CLERK, THE TREASURER, AND THE TAX ASSESSOR POSITION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT I'VE SHOWN COURT THIS CHART.

AND THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ADDRESSED HOW ELECTED OFFICIALS DIDN'T GET RAISES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND SO IT WAS A CATCH UP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRYING TO GET ELECTED OFFICIALS CAUGHT UP TO MAKE UP FOR ALL THOSE YEARS THAT EMPLOYEES GOT RAISES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS DID NOT.

SO PART OF THAT PLAN, YOU KNOW, HAD THE GROUP A AND GROUP B, IT HAD THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THESE FOUR POSITIONS ALL IN THAT GROUP B TOGETHER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF DISCUSSION WENT INTO THAT AND IT WAS GONNA BE A TWO YEAR PLAN.

AND SO LAST YEAR WOULD'VE BEEN THE FINAL STEP OF THAT PLAN.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE TEMPLATE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

SO I KNOW I'M INCLUDED NOW IN THIS, WHEN I PUT THIS, UM, IN FRONT OF Y'ALL THREE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO, UM, IT DIDN'T AFFECT ME.

I HAD REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER COUNTY FOR THEIR STRUCTURE, HOW THEY DID IT.

AND THIS WAS WHERE THE PLAN CAME FROM.

SO THE $10,000

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WAS DENIED LAST YEAR.

UM, SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE CONSIDERED THIS YEAR.

UM, THERE'S ALSO CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES, UM, THAT THE JPS ARE ASKING FOR.

AND THEN THE SHERIFF HAS ASKED FOR A $20,800 AUTO ALLOWANCE, THE SAME AS THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE CONSTABLE FROM PRECINCT THREE.

UM, I VISITED WITH THE OTHER CONSTABLES TO SEE THEIR STANCE ON VEHICLE ALLOWANCES.

UM, ONE CONSTABLE ONE HAS SAID NO, THAT HE DOES NOT WANNA BE ALLOWANCE.

UM, CONSTABLE TWO AND FOUR HAVE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH, SO, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT MAYBE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT AS WELL.

ARE ANY OF THESE POSITIONS ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY.

CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION WELL, BEFORE WE GET, I'M SORRY TO THAT, THAT THAT'S OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO SPEED, BUT I WANT, I WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FIRST.

UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A, A, A SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE THAT, UM, FOR ANY CONSIDERATION ON THAT, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, UH, GIVE A CONSIDERATION ON HAVING TO PRESENT THAT.

'CAUSE IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO AVOID THAT IF WE COULD AND COME TO SOME RESOLUTION ON THAT.

UH, FOR THOSE THAT ARE CONSIDERING THAT, 'CAUSE THAT IS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.

I MEAN, THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND, AND JUST A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE, THE, THE RATIONALE.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS.

UM, BUT, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT FOR THOSE INVOLVED THAT ARE CONSIDERING THIS, IF THEY WOULD SPEAK AND IF NOT, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WITHIN THAT RIGHT.

TO NOT DO SO AND FILE THE GRIEVANCE.

BUT, UH, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COURT TO HEAR THIS, UH, ABOUT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S A CONSIDERATION THERE THAT CAN AVOID THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK MORE ON THE $10,000? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS, RIGHT? I DO.

I DO.

WELL FOR ME, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I FIRST PUT THIS PLAN IN PLACE, I WAS NOT THE COUNTY TREASURER.

I DID NOT EVEN KNOW AT THAT POINT I WOULD BE THE COUNTY TREASURER.

THIS WAS A PLAN PUT FORTH FROM ANOTHER COUNTY THAT THEY PAID A FIRM TO COME IN AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT A TIER LEVEL AND FOR ELECTED POSITIONS.

SO AGAIN, WHEN THIS FIRST WAS PUT INTO, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT THERE FOR Y'ALL, IT WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE A TWO YEAR PLAN.

SO PART OF IT WAS DONE YEAR ONE, BUT THEN THINGS CHANGED LAST YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS WERE PUT INTO A DIFFERENT GROUP AND THESE FOUR POSITIONS DID NOT RECEIVE THE $10,000 THAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR.

THEY DID GO TO GRIEVANCE LAST YEAR.

IT WENT AS A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE THOSE RAISES.

AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT DENIED IT.

UM, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO FORWARD.

SPEAKING TO MY POSITION ITSELF, UM, AND I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, I LOVE THAT I HAVE THAT Y'ALL ALLOWED ME TO COMBINE HR WITH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

SO AGAIN, BY DOING THAT, I ELIMINATED AN HR DIRECTOR'S SALARY OF A TOTAL COST OF ABOUT $130,000.

SO NOW I'LL DO BOTH ROLES.

SO NOW I DO THE ROLE THAT THE PAST TREASURER WAS PAID FOR, AND I DO A ROLE WHERE I WAS PAID $90,000 TO DO AS WELL.

SO THE SAVINGS, THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE.

IT WAS MY CHOICE AND I LOVE IT.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY AS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A SAVINGS OUT THERE.

THAT, AND AGAIN, IF THIS DOESN'T GO THEN I'M NOT GONNA NOT DO THAT.

I LOVE IT.

I DO.

BUT AS PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHY, YOU KNOW, WE WISH OUR POSITIONS WERE VALUED AS I FELT THAT THEY WERE WHEN THIS POSITION, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PUT OUT A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THEN SOMETHING CHANGED.

AND I KNOW LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T FUN, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT INVOLVED ME, EVEN THOUGH I HADN'T BEEN SWORN IN YET, IT'S NOT FUN TO STAND UP HERE AND FIGHT FOR YOURSELF AND ASK TO BE VALUED FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU DO, NOT ONLY FOR THIS COUNTY, BUT TO ASSIST ALL THE OFFICES FOR PARKER COUNTY.

AND THAT IS WHAT MY OFFICE DOES.

IT IS NOT JUST THE CHECKS AND BALANCES OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM OF THIS COUNTY.

IT'S THE PAYROLL FOR THIS COUNTY.

IT ASSISTS EVERY SINGLE OFFICE, EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY I TOUCH, EITHER IN YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE OR YOUR RETIREMENT PLANS OR YOUR BENEFICIARIES.

BECKY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS? I, I COULD SPEAK FROM HERE.

UM, SO THE PLAN, UH, DID INVOLVE

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ME LAST YEAR.

AND MY, MY STANCE IS STILL THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WHAT BECKY SAYS 'CAUSE I, I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY SHE DOES.

I HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST STAFFS IN THE COUNTY.

UM, I HAVE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST BOND IN THE COUNTY.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, UM, THE, THE THINGS THAT MY OFFICE DOES, UM, I I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AS, AS RECOGNIZED, UM, AS SOME OTHER POSITIONS ARE.

BUT MY STANCE IS STILL THE SAME AS LAST YEAR THAT I WOULD PREFER, UH, THAT THE COURT WENT WITH THE PLAN AS, UH, OUR HR TREASURER PRESENTED.

ANYBODY ELSE? I DON'T REALLY THINK OTHERS TO ADD TO WHAT THEY SAID, BUT I DO HOPE THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER IT.

THE OFFICES ARE HIGH VALUE.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE A SAY IN THIS.

AND IT'S KIND OF, I'M PRESSING THAT BECAUSE, UH, IF WE DO GO TO A GRIEVANCE, I MEAN THAT, THAT IS A PROCESS.

AND, AND, UM, I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS THAT WITH, WITH EVERY GOVERNMENT THAT YOU KNOW, WELL, THEY MAKE THIS, I SHOULD TOO, YOU KNOW, WHERE I DO THIS OR, YOU KNOW, I DESERVE THAT AS WELL.

AND WE ALL HAVE JOBS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, I JUST KNOW THAT, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, STRONG ENOUGH THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THAT IT SHOULD GO TO A GRIEVANCE, UH, COMMITTEE TO BE EVALUATED AND HAVE A SECOND PROCESS LOOK IT OVER.

AND IF THEY FEEL THAT STRONGLY ABOUT IT, UH, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT ALL SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HAS A ROLE.

WE'RE ALL A TEAM PLAYER.

WE'RE KIND OF A COG IN THE WHEEL.

AND, UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO EACH OF US, WE, WE, WHAT WE DO IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WHAT WE DO IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND, AND SO WITHOUT THE EFFICIENCIES OF A COUNTY CLERK AND A DISTRICT CLERK AND, AND NOT TREASURER AND, UM, WE WOULDN'T BE VERY GOOD AT WHAT WE DO.

AND SO WE REALLY, THE, I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THAT, UH, OUR PEOPLE ARE OUR STRONGEST AND BEST ASSET.

WITHOUT THEM, WITHOUT YOU, WE, WE AREN'T WHO WE ARE.

AND SO, UH, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

I'M NOT SWAYING THE COURT TO SAY YES TO THIS.

I'M JUST SAYING, UH, THE, IN SPEAKING ON YOUR BEHALF, THAT, UH, IT OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU TO CONTINUALLY AND COME BACK TO US AGAIN, UH, WITH THE SAME PASSION AND RESILIENCE THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR.

UM, I CHAIR THAT COMMITTEE, SO THAT'S WHY I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

UM, BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE UNBIASED AND, AND MAKE SURE THE PROCESS IS FOLLOWED CORRECTLY.

AND, UH, BUT I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE COURT IS AWARE THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A VERY, UH, IMPORTANT THING, UH, TO THOSE THAT ARE CONSIDERING THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

AND, UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

AGAIN, THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS.

I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

BECKY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE THE ONE THAT CAN ANSWER THESE THE BEST.

SO ARE WE TALKING, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND, FOUR POSITIONS, 10,000 EACH? YES.

SO ACCOUNTING FOR, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN FICA AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE'RE TALKING ROUGHLY $50,000, 48,005, ABOUT $48,550.

IT'S ABOUT 12,200 EACH.

POSITIONS THAT THESE POSITIONS ARE THE ONES THAT GET QUESTIONED AND MAYBE NOT SO MUCH THE OTHERS.

SO 12,200 EACH.

WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PANEL LAST YEAR TO APPROVE THE RAISES? WAS THAT UNANIMOUS OR WAS THAT IT WAS SEVEN.

IT WAS A PANEL OF PEERS, SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY.

HOW DID THESE POSITIONS PAY? COMPARE TO, LEMME THINK ABOUT HOW TO PHRASE THIS.

HOW DO THESE POSITIONS PAY COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES OF SIMILAR SIZE AND ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSIBILITY, ET CETERA? I WOULD SAY JUST SPEAKING ON THE TREASURER'S POSITION, THIS SALARY IS, IS PROBABLY ON THE HIGHER SIDE OF THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF COUNTIES DO HAVE A SEPARATE HR AND I STAND FIRM TO, THAT'S SOMEDAY FOR PARKER COUNTY.

THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED.

BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

I AM FULLY CONFIDENT OF THE COMBINATION.

AND I HOPE, I HAVE SHOWN Y'ALL THIS YEAR HOW HAVING HR AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE COMBINED FOR PARKER COUNTY HAS BENEFITED AND THINGS THAT I'M ABLE TO SEE AND CATCH AND BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO, UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU COULD MAKE NOT ONLY FOR THESE SALARIES, BUT THEN IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THESE SALARIES LIE? YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THE COUNTY JUDGE SALARY LIE? WHERE DOES COMMISSIONER SALARIES LIE? OR JPS OR, OR CONSTABLES.

SO I THINK THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE, IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING IS IT'S LIKE, WHY IS IT PINPOINTED FOR THESE

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SO THESE OTHER COUNTIES, SPEAKING TO YOUR, YOU, YOU BROUGHT UP YOUR POSITION SPECIFICALLY.

DO THE OTHER COUNTIES OFTEN HAVE TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS? ONE FOR HR AND ONE FOR TREASURER? SOME DO AND SOME DON'T HAVE A TREASURER, YOU KNOW, SOME TO BE, YOU KNOW, FULL DISCLOSURE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE LARGER COUNTIES, TARRANT COUNTY INCLUDED, THEY DON'T HAVE A, A TREASURER.

THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIKE EXECUTIVE WING.

YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY HAVE A SEPARATE PERSON THAT DOES, THEY HAVE CFO'S OFFICERS, THEY HAVE INVESTMENT OFFICERS, THEY HAVE AN ENTIRE INVESTMENT DEPARTMENTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS WE'RE A ONE-STOP SHOP, WE DO IT ALL IN ONE.

REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE COUNTY.

YEAH, IT DOES.

FOR ONE, WHAT POSITIONS YOU HAVE.

SO, YEAH, AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I GET ALL THE TIME.

WHY WOULD YOU PULL HR BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

I'VE HAD OTHER COUNTIES ASK ME THAT.

THEY'RE LIKE, YOU'RE CRAZY.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I LOVED HR AND I KNEW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT I COULD DO IT ALL.

AND THAT HAVING A BIGGER STAFF IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, WELL, WITH THE COMBINATION AND EVEN PULLING A POSITION FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALLOWS ME TO DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T A NEW ASK JUST FOR ME.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT THEY'VE SEEN IT.

BEFORE I WAS EVER COUNTY TREASURER, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE PLAN TO BE COMPLETED.

AND REMIND ME REAL QUICK, HOW MUCH DID COMMISSIONERS, UH, PAY INCREASE LAST YEAR? OH GOSH, IT DEPENDED.

I THINK IN SOME CASES IT WAS 30 SOMETHING PERCENT, DEPENDING ON IF THE CAR ALLOWANCE WAS TAKEN WHEN IT WASN'T IN THE PAST.

SO, SO SIGNIFICANTLY.

SIGNIFICANTLY, YES.

IN SOME CASES, YES.

SO WHAT DID Y'ALL, THESE FOUR POSITIONS, DID Y'ALL GET A RAISE LAST YEAR? YES.

WHAT WAS, OR WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE IF YOU CAN? I THINK IT WAS AROUND 14%.

BUT IF THEY WOULD'VE STAYED IN THE SAME RATING AS THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THEY WERE RATED THE SAME, IF THEY WOULD'VE STAYED THE SAME RATING, THEN THEY WOULD'VE RECEIVED $10,000 MORE AS THE COMMISSIONERS DID.

THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE CAME IN THE WAY THEY WERE RATED.

SO I KNOW THIS IS UNRELATED, BUT THESE FOUR POSITIONS ALSO HAVE PERSONNEL REQUESTS.

I DO NOT.

YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T.

BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT, I, I GUESS I WAS GONNA ASK.

UM, AND, AND THIS IS A DECISION THAT I HAVE TO MAKE MM-HMM.

, AND THAT IS, WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET THOSE POSITIONS THAT I, I GOT COMMUNICATION THAT SAID BASICALLY WE CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT THESE OTHER POSITIONS.

AND, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A, IT'S MY POINT IN THE WHOLE DEAL IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO EVERYTHING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE, JUST, I'VE GOT THE FLOOR, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS MM-HMM.

AND THOSE HARD DECISIONS SOMETIMES ARE NOT POPULAR THINGS WITH EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AND THERE'S NOBODY BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK BACK ANOTHER YEAR, I THINK YOU'LL SEE, UH, THOSE POSITIONS GOT PERCENTAGE RAISED THE YEAR BEFORE AS WELL.

AM I CORRECT? EVERYBODY DID.

IT WAS SIGNIFICANT AS WERE OTHERS IN, IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT.

SO I, I'M, I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT FOR THINGS THAT WE ALL ALREADY KNOW AND SOMEWHERE OR ANOTHER, THIS, THIS, THESE PEOPLE SITTING AT THIS TABLE UP HERE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE PRIORITY IS.

AND THERE IS NOTHING PERSONAL ABOUT IT.

THERE'S NOTHING BECAUSE OF WHAT THE JOB IS OR ANYTHING.

BUT WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS BUDGET FUNCTION.

AND SO THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE IS, IS THIS ALLOWABLE THING TO TAKE OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO FUND THIS? OR IS THIS, OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THE ROAD THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES LILA NEED THAT POSITION THAT SHE'S GOT? YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO FUND ONE? ARE WE GOING FUND BOTH? THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.

I'M JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS LILA, EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS, UH, THOSE THINGS.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHECKBOOK IS VERY SMALL HERE THIS TIME.

AND, UH, ANY DECISION THAT GETS MADE WILL BE MADE, UH, AGAIN, BACK TO A PRIORITY LIST OF WHAT IS NEEDED THE MOST.

AND THAT'S A DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

AND FROM YOUR VOTING POSITION.

'CAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PROBABLY IS GONNA COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE, EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, I MEAN, A PAPER, THE FIRST PAPERCLIP WE BUY WILL COME OUT FUND BALANCE.

THE FACT THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST THE WALL WITH, WITH OUR, OUR BUDGET, UH, WE'VE YANKED A LOT OF MONEY OUT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, WHICH OUR ROADS ARE BEING DRIVEN ON A LOT MORE.

I MEAN, SO I WANTED, I WANT TO PREFACE THIS WITH BEING THE SIXTH FASTEST GROWING COUNTY, WE HAVE NEEDS, WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

WE HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SPACING NEEDS.

UM, BUYING THE WEATHERFORD PD, WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF TALKS ABOUT JUSTICE CENTERS AND CONSOLIDATIONS OF OUR, AND WE'RE GETTING THERE VERY RAPIDLY EXCEEDING OUR JUDICIAL CAPACITY WITH OUR COURT SYSTEM.

AND, UH,

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SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT BUDGET BEHIND THAT.

UH, BUT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE DONE.

UM, AND OUR COMMITMENT MADE.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE WERE COMMITTED TO.

BUT WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS.

AND, AND AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE SAME THING, THAT WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE, YOU KNOW? AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STAY FOCUSED ON THAT.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE FACT THAT IT'S A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

THAT WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS AND, AND NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO FULFILL.

AND, UH, IT'S GONNA BE PAINFUL.

SOME WILL BE FUN BALANCE, SOME WILL BE ABOVE.

AND I THINK WE ALL ARE GETTING TO THAT POINT TO REAL REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NO NEW TAX RATE.

IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HOPED.

AND NOT THAT WE'RE NOT CONSERVATIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO DO THAT AND MAKE THE, MAKE OUR PENNIES STRETCH.

BUT THE FACT OF IT IS WE HAVE NEEDS, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS OUR PEOPLE, AND I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN, IS OUR PEOPLE.

AND IS IT ILLOGICAL OR IS IT NOT RATIONAL TO LOOK AT THESE AND WHAT THESE NEEDS ARE RELATIVE TO WHAT THE, THE RAISES GIVEN OUT TO SOME OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS LAST YEAR.

UM, WE JUST GOTTA BALANCE IT ALL OUT AND UNDERSTAND AND TRY TO BE AS, AS FAIR AS WE CAN AND, AND KEEP GOOD PEOPLE.

AND, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT THESE NEEDS ARE, THESE REQUESTS ARE, I THINK YOU GET A BETTER PRODUCT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU OFFER THAT AND, AND YOU STEP UP.

AND I, BUT I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR HAVING THE, THE, THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA FIGHT FOR THIS AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

SO NOW BEING DIFFICULT ABOUT IT, I THINK YOUR APPROACH IS, IS GOOD.

I THINK YOU'RE NOT BEING DEMANDING.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW? SO AGAIN, I STAND BY THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE.

YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH.

SO, WELL, WE DEBATED THIS FOR HOURS LAST YEAR, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE IT MORE.

MY OPINIONS LIKE LILA IS THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

AND SO WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.

AND I BELIEVE WE'RE SET UP IF, IF WE MOVE THAT PATH ON THE GRIEVANCE, AND WE'RE SET UP FOR THAT PROCESS TO DO THAT TODAY AS WELL.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO, UM, WE NEED TO AT SOME POINT, UH, MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHAT OUR DECISION IS AND WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS IN TERMS OF THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

SO, UM, UM, THE SHERIFF IS HERE AND HE ACTUALLY HAS AN AUTO ALLOWANCE REQUEST IN HERE.

DO Y'ALL WANNA TALK TO HIM? WELL, BEFORE WE, I THINK WE DO THAT.

I THINK, OH, AND, AND ALSO JEFF'S, WE NEED TO DISCUSS JEFF'S WING.

WE DO, BUT I THINK AT FIRST, RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE NEED TO FIRST THINGS FIRST, AND WE, WE'VE GOT THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS GONNA TRIGGER EITHER A GRIEVANCE OR NOT A GRIEVANCE.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO HANDLE THIS FIRST.

IF WITH THE COURT'S INDULGENCE ON THAT, OR WE CERTAINLY CAN HEAR THEM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND MAKE A DECISION NOW ON WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THESE, THESE THAT POTENTIALLY COULD MOVE TO A GRIEVANCE.

SO I, I'LL I'LL SAY THIS, IT NEEDS TO BE SAID, UH, I WISH THAT WE WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD PAY, UM, EVERYBODY WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED TO BE PAID.

AND THAT'S EVERYBODY.

AND, AND I, IF YOU'RE NOT VERY GOOD, IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE WORTH MORE THAN WHAT YOUR SALARY IS.

AND, AND I WISH WE WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD PAY EVERYBODY WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR THEIR POSITION IS WORTH.

UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE NOT, YEAH, WE'RE GROWING FAST, BUT OUR BANK ACCOUNT'S NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE, UH, NOT BRINGING IN AS MUCH MONEY AS WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO AT, AT WHICHEVER TAX RATE THAT WE GO TO.

AND, UH, THE ONLY WAY TO FUND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE EITHER FUND BALANCE OR INCREASING THE TAX RATE OVER THE NO NEAR REVENUE RATE.

THAT'S A TOUGH DECISION.

THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY HAS TO MAKE.

IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH POSITION, JUDGE.

AND, AND, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE HIGHER SALARIES THAN WHAT THEY MAKE.

I, THERE'S NOT A THING, COMMISSIONER, THAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH.

UM, THE THING ABOUT IT IS THOUGH, THAT LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE THE MONEY, WE GAVE SOME GOOD RAISES OUT, BUT WEREN'T IN, IN PARITY.

AND AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THAT SAME THING.

WELL, HE MAKES THIS, UM, THEN I SHOULD BE MAKING THIS TOO.

I WANNA GO BACK TO MY POINT THOUGH.

THE PLAN THAT WAS PUT FORTH, THIS IS THOUGH THE THIRD YEAR THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THE FIRST YEAR IT DID HAVE THOSE SAL, THOSE SALARIES

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IS THE SAME.

UNDERSTOOD.

UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T JUST A, I MEAN, I HATE THAT STUFF TOO.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR YEARS.

THAT IRRITATES ME.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.

SO, SO THE LAST TWO YEARS THERE WAS RAISES TO THIS POSITION, TO THESE POSITION, TO ALL, TO ALL ELECTED OFFICIAL POSITIONS? YES, THERE WERE.

ON THESE FOUR, WHAT WOULD, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IN MAY, IF, IF I MAY, UM, SO PART OF THE DISTRICT CLERK AND THE COUNTY CLERK, I CAN SPEAK FOR THAT, WE WERE, UM, WAY, WAY, WAY BELOW THE COUNTY AVERAGE FOR YEARS.

AND SO I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBERS.

I DON'T HAVE 'EM WITH ME.

SO OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WE DID, WE GOT BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT UP MM-HMM.

BECAUSE WE WERE SO FAR BEHIND.

UM, AND NOW FOR, FOR BECKY AND, UM, JENNY, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE THE FOUR POSITIONS, WE WERE ALL, WE HAD CLAGGED BEHIND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO YES, WE DID, WE GOT SMALL, WE GOT, UH, INCREMENTS.

INCREMENTS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

I JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

SO BRIANNA DID JUST GIVE ME THOSE NUMBERS.

AND LAST YEAR, WHENEVER EVERY EMPLOYEE RECEIVED AT LEAST 10%, THOSE FOUR POSITIONS RECEIVED 13.92 COMMISSIONERS RECEIVED 36.62%, AND THE OTHER TWO RECEIVED 19 POINT 11.

UM, THE COUNTY JUDGE RECEIVED 13.52%.

THAT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CAR ALLOWANCE.

THERE WAS NO RAISE.

I, THERE'S YOU GOT AN AUTO ALLOWANCE, THAT'S AN INCREASE YOUR SALARY.

UM, THE SHERIFF RECEIVED 12.46, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY, 14.91, UH, JPSS RECEIVED, RECEIVED 10.09 AND THE CONSTABLES RECEIVED 10.02.

DO YOU KNOW THE YEAR BEFORE THAT? I DON'T BECAUSE YOU, YOU WERE REFERENCING THE PLAN, RIGHT? THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE.

I I WOULD SAY THEY WERE PROBABLY AROUND 10 ISH, 10 TO 11, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

ANYONE I THINK RECEIVED AT LEAST 5%.

OH, THAT WAS 5% THE YEAR BEFORE 5%.

IT WAS HALF OF WHATEVER THAT INCREASE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE YEAR BEFORE EVERYBODY GOT 5%.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY WERE LIKE, THIS IS GONNA BE A TWO YEAR PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS.

AND THEN WE TOOK HALF OF THE DIFFERENCE AND ATTACHED IT TO FIVE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY THOUGHT LAST YEAR WOULD BE THE FINAL STEP TO THE PLAN WHEN THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF REALLY NICE RAISES HANDED DOWN.

BUT LIKE I SAID, SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGED.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND I'M GOING TO INDULGENCE OF THE COURT, IS TO VOTE ON THIS, ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.

IF, 'CAUSE THE DETERMINATION OF THAT VOTE IS GOING TO EITHER GO TO A GRIEVANCE OR NOT, UH, THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF AND, AND I HAVEN'T FORGOT THOSE OF YOU, UM, AND THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE GONNA LET YOU SPEAK, BUT WE GOT BUSINESS HERE RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO TO A VOTE ON THIS WITH THE S AND, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, WHAT IS YOUR MOTION TO SERVE? MY MOTION IS THAT NO ELECTED OFFICIAL GETS A RAISE THIS YEAR.

COMMISSIONER COLLEY HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR NO RAISES FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS SECONDED THAT MOTION.

USE PICKING A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE IF WE DON'T KNOW THEY'RE GOING OR NOT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT? WHILE IN FAVOR, MOTION PASSES.

THREE, TWO.

SO THE NEXT STEP OF THAT WOULD BE THEN, UM, THE DETERMINATION, WHETHER THAT GOES THROUGH A GRIEVANCE OR NOT.

SO WHEN DO WE, BECKY, CAN YOU HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT? WHAT IS THE, THE PROCESS WITH THAT WOULD JUST BE NOTIFIED OF IT? UH, NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW OR RIGHT.

SO EACH ELECTED OF OFFICIAL SHOULD RECEIVE A LETTER FROM YOUR OFFICE REGARDING WHAT THEIR SALARY WILL BE FOR FISCAL 24.

AND THEN THEY WILL RE SEND A LETTER BACK TO YOUR OFFICE LETTING THEM KNOW IF THERE SHOULD BE A GRIEVANCE, IF THEY WISH TO GO TO GRIEVANCE OR NOT.

UM, I BELIEVE TIA'S READY NOW TO PULL, UM, THE NAMES ISN'T, WOULD THAT NOT BE PREMATURE? UM, ISN'T THERE NOT AN AGENDA ITEM? YES, THERE IS AN AGENDA.

THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

THAT'S THE COUNTY CLERK'S JOB THAT'S OUTTA OH, TRUE.

THAT'S THE COUNTY CLERK'S JOB.

BUT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT GETS TO CHOOSE WHO'S ON, UH, THIS COMMITTEE, THIS GRIEVANCE.

SO ARE WE AT THAT POINT THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE TWO CHOICES OR OKAY.

WE'VE, WE'VE DONE D WE'VE VOTED ON D NO, I'M SORRY.

WE, WE HAVE NOT WHAT WE VOTED ON C.

RIGHT? I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND SO D THEN WOULD BE ON THE SALARY GRIEVANCE PROCESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 5 2 0 1 4.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT.

WELL, THERE'S NO

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YEAH, WELL THAT'S TRUE.

YOU'RE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LETTER YET, SO THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE PREMATURE TO THIS.

AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IT HAS TO BE DONE.

NOW, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING IT SO IT DOESN'T SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS.

THERE'S SOME COUNTIES, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

IF THAT DOESN'T, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT IF THAT'S NOT AT LEAST THE PROCESS.

AND NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY SELECTING THE NAME BECAUSE IF YOU WANNA VERIFY THAT, THEN, SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ANTICIPATED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GRIEVANCE.

THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD A GRIEVANCE.

THEY DO IT AT THE BEGINNING.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

CYNTHIA, COME ON UP.

THE STATUTE ACTUALLY TO CHOOSE THE GRIEVANCE FROM BE PROCESSED IN THE TIME.

SO WE'RE IN THAT, WE'RE AT THAT STAGE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THOUGH JEFF SWAIN IS HERE AND HE HAD A SEPARATE ISSUE ON THE ELECTED SALARY.

I PROBABLY NEED TO TALK BEFORE ON MINE.

SO BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO HEAR THE OTHERS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

WE CAN SKIP BACK AND FORTH, JUDGE.

AND SO, UH, ON, ON MINE LAST YEAR, I RECEIVED AN INCREASE IN PAY BUT DIDN'T REQUEST IT.

AND SO THIS YEAR THE BASE SALARY THAT THE COUNTY PAYS IS 34,827.

BUT I HAVE STATE SUPPLEMENT AND SO THIS YOU MEAN 1 34? YEAH, 1 34.

AND SO THE STATE SUPPLEMENT IS AROUND 84.

I'VE NEVER TAKEN THE COMPLETE SUPPLEMENT.

AND PROBABLY OVER THE LIFETIME OF MY CAREER, OVER 23 YEARS, I GIVEN FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DOLLARS BACK.

BUT THIS, THIS, THIS TIME AROUND, I WANT TO GIVE 5,000 BACK IN THAT STATE SUPPLEMENT BACK INTO MY OFFICE.

SO IT REDUCED MY SALARY FROM LAST CALENDAR YEAR BY 5,000.

SO THAT WOULD BRING MY, MY SALARY DOWN AND THAT I THINK JEFF WAS WANTING TO EQUALIZE WITH WHAT MY SALARY WAS.

THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND ADDRESS THAT.

UH, I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE ELECTED COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR 23 YEARS.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE STATE DOES, THEY EVEN ON JUDGES, THEY START AT A CERTAIN RATE ZERO TO FOUR YEARS.

AND DISTRICT JUDGES, THAT'S 58,000 WITHOUT THEIR SUPPLEMENT.

1 58, 1 50 8,004 EIGHT YEARS.

IT GOES 1 72 8 PLUS YEARS GOES 180 6, 12 PLUS YEARS, IT GOES TO 1 94.

AND THEN WITH THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES, THEY CAN START OUT OUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1 57 AND 1 93 ON ZERO TO FOUR.

AND THEN THAT'S GOES UP TO 180 5 TO 1 93 AND YOURS 12 PLUS.

BUT, UM, SINCE I HAD THAT SUPPLEMENT, I WAS GONNA CUT MY SALARY 5,000 THIS YEAR AND ROLL THAT BACK IN.

AND THE QUESTION ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE REQUEST, I DO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR EMPLOYEES.

HOWEVER, UNDER SENATE BILL 22, THAT COST WILL BE COVERED BY THAT, THAT SENATE BILL.

AND THAT CAN BE RETROACTIVE.

SO IF WE FUND THOSE TWO POSITIONS, THAT MONEY WHEN IT COMES AVAILABLE, I THINK IT'S AFTER JANUARY ONE, JEFF MAY KNOW THAT'S WHEN WE CAN APPLY FOR IT.

UH, THAT WILL BE RETROACTIVE PAYMENT TO THOSE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN IMPACT ON THE TAX BASE THIS YEAR BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT WILL BE COVERED BY THAT GRANT THAT THE STATE ALLOWED FOR.

AND THAT IS FOR A C P S ATTORNEY AND FOR A C P SS ASSISTANT.

AND JEFF, YOU'RE UP.

SO, UM, I, I AM ASKING TO BE MADE EQUIVALENT TO JOHN.

I MEAN, FUNCTIONALLY, WE'RE BOTH PROSECUTORS HERE.

UH, I DO THE FELONIES, HE DOES THE MISDEMEANORS.

OBVIOUSLY JOHN, UH, FOCUSES MORE OF HIS WORK ON ADVISING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE CIVIL BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY AND C P SS AND MENTAL COMMITMENTS PROTECTIVE ORDER.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE.

AND JUST MADE MISDEMEANORS AS WELL, JUVENILES IMPORTANT STUFF, THAT SORT OF THING.

ASKING EARLIER ABOUT, UM, EMPLOYEES.

UM, I'M JUST ASKING FOR MY SALARY TO BE MADE, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT JOHN MAKES.

UM, I I THINK IT'S KIND OF LUDICROUS TO NOT HAVE YOUR TWO PROSECUTORS MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT'S ON THE FELONY SIDE.

WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH MURDERERS.

IT SEEMS SILLY TO HAVE, UH, THE DA MAKE $50,000 LESS THAN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

UM, SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST JOHN AT ALL.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR WHAT JOHN DOES AND WHAT HIS OFFICE DOES.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT HIS, HIS SALARY IS NOT LONGEVITY BASED.

NONE OF THAT MONEY IS LONGEVITY MONEY.

UM, I, I DON'T THINK UNTIL LAST YEAR, RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIME, I DON'T THINK PROBABLY ANY OF US REALIZED HOW MUCH MORE JOHN WAS MAKING THAN THE DA.

UM, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T UNTIL I WAS HEADING TO A MEETING OUT IN, UH, EAST PART OF THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THAT SEEMED ABSURD AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO, UM, I JUST ASK THAT YOU MAKE OUR SALARIES CONSISTENT.

UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, YOU WERE

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UH, LIKE JOHN, UH, THE ASSISTANT DA THAT I HAVE IN THE BUDGET, I WOULD PAY FOR THAT WITH SENATE BILL 22.

UM, AS JOHN MENTIONED, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BASICALLY, WE NEED YOU TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OR ON THE, ON THE BUDGET, BUT THEN WE WOULD BACKFILL IT.

UH, AND THE COUNTY PAID BACK FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE, UH, THAT ACTUALLY KICKS IN.

THE APPLICATION IS NOT AVAILABLE FROM THE COMP CONTROL UNTIL JANUARY.

SO PRESUMABLY THEY'LL APPROVE THOSE IN FEBRUARY.

IT IS NOT A COMPETITIVE GRANT.

IT IS A, IF YOU APPLY FOR IT, YOU GET GET IT GRANT.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S AN OFF BUDGET ITEM THAT WE JUST SAVED YOU, YOU KNOW, $105,000 AND, AND I'M, I'M TOLD WE CAN PAY FOR BENEFITS WITH THAT TOO.

UM, SO THE ONLY OUT OF THAT ITEM, THE ONLY EXPENSE THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A DESK, A CHAIR, OR A COMPUTER OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I ONE CORRECTION ABOUT LONGEVITY, SO WHERE IT DOES KIND OF, KIND OF INDIRECTLY COME IN TO LONGEVITY IS OVER THE YEARS, WHENEVER WE GET A RAISE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, THEN IT IS SEMI QUASI LONGEVITY BASED, BASED ON THAT 'CAUSE EVERY YEAR.

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THE JUDGES WHERE THEY GET A LONGEVITY EVERY FOUR YEARS.

THAT DOESN'T APPLY FOR ANY OF THE MONEY THAT YOU GET FROM THE STATE.

IT'S LENGTH, LENGTH OF TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU STARTED A BASE SALARY, BUT YOUR SALARY RIGHT NOW IS NOT BASED ON LONGEVITY.

YOUR SALARY RIGHT NOW IS BASED UPON WHAT THE COUNTY AND ATTORNEY POSITION GETS PAID FROM THE COUNTY PLUS THE MONEY FROM THE STATE.

YOU DON'T GET MORE MONEY FROM THE STATE BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY.

MY, MY BASE SALARY IS, SO MY BASE SALARY THAT'S PAID BY THE COUNTY, IF WE BEGAN NEXT YEAR, SOMEBODY, THEY MIGHT NOT RECEIVE THE SAME BASE SALARY.

I MEAN, THAT'S WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE COURT.

SO EVERY YEAR THAT IF YOU GOT A 5% INCREASE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT LONGEVITY, YOUR SALARY MATCHES UP WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S SALARY.

IT DOESN'T, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

EVERY YEAR WHEN I WOULD GET A RAISE ON THAT BASE AREA, THE LONGER I'VE BEEN HERE, SO THAT'S QUASI LONG LONGEVITY.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T SIT IN A BRACKET AS FAR AS NONE OF IT'S BRACKET IS LONGEVITY.

IT'S NOT BRACKET.

SO WHEREAS THE JUDGE IS STRICTLY BRACKETED L BRACKET IT'S BRACKET.

YOURS IS NOT, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT'S A, UH, IT'S AN EQUITY THING.

IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO HAVE US MAKE THE SAME.

SO THAT IS ALL I'VE GOT.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

YES SIR.

THE SSB 22 MONEY.

CAN IT BE USED TOWARD ANYTHING OTHER THAN CAN IT BE USED TOWARD YOUR SALARY? WE CAN USE IT TOWARDS SALARY, UH, INCREASES FOR ASSISTANT DAS INVESTIGATORS OR VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATORS, BUT NOT MINE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD, HEY, THERE'S A POTENTIAL YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MOVE IT AROUND.

BUT POTENTIALLY THERE'S POTENTIALLY, YES.

, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT FUNCTIONS IN REALITY.

DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

I KNOW THERE, THERE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REDUCE THE OFFICE'S BUDGET.

UM, IT'S NOT TO SUPPLANT.

BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE SHERIFF'S ALLOWED TO USE THEIRS FOR EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

WE CAN'T DO THAT MM-HMM.

SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO PAY FOR THE COMPUTER.

OR OTHER SORTS OF THINGS.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOE? THANK YOU, JEFF.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK Y'ALL.

WOULD UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR MOTION? MY MOTION IS FOR THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.

ARE WE READY TO VOTE ON THE, WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE? IT SHOULD BE ON SIX D PROCESS.

WE ARE, BUT I MEAN, A WHILE AGO YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO GET IT DONE, SO I I DO.

I DO.

AND UH, BUT NOW WE'VE HEARD ADDITIONAL, UM, FROM A STANDPOINT FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

UH, WOULD THAT NOT BE SOMETHING WE ADDRESS FIRST BEFORE WE GO TO THAT ITEM D? WOULD WE GO BACK TO C AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE PROPOSAL ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES? BOOST, WHAT YOU JUST HEARD WAS ARGUMENTS ON ADJUSTING THE SALARY OF OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO, IN PARITY TO WHAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IS LESS THAN 5,000.

DO WE NOT VOTE ON THAT FIRST BEFORE WE GO TO THE GRIEVANCE? THAT'S FINE.

'CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS BASICALLY I REMOVED MY MOTION.

ARE WE GONNA GO BACK AND UNDO THAT FOR JUST ONE? OKAY.

UM, I WOULD MAKE A, I WOULDN'T MAKE A MOTION.

WE JUST, WE JUST MADE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY, NOT THE MOST PREVIOUS ONE, BUT THE ONE THAT WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE VOTE ON.

MY UNDERSTANDING, WAS YOUR MOTION APPLIED TO ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

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MY MISTAKE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY ON THOSE FOUR.

NO, IT WAS ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE FOR THESE TWO, I, I GUESS I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJUST THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SALARY TO MATCH THAT LESS THE 5,000, UH, TO MATCH WHAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IS.

CAN I DO THAT? WELL, I THINK THAT JUST 'CAUSE WHAT WE, WHEN YOU SAY LESS 5,000, SO I GAVE YOU EACH A SHEET OF PAPER.

SO THE SUPPLEMENT WOULD BE $49,561 WOULD BE THE SALARY PORTION THAT WOULD BE PAID BY THE COUNTY FOR A TOTAL COST OF $60,071.

THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL OVER LAST YEAR.

49,000 OVER LAST YEAR.

BECAUSE IT WOULD, YOU'RE TAKING THE SHEET OF PAPER I GAVE Y'ALL COMPARED THE TWO BASE SALARIES FACTORED IN LONGEVITY FACTORED IN THE, THE, I PUT IN WHAT JOHN TOOK FOR FISCAL 23, SUPPLEMENT FOR FISCAL 24.

WE LOWERED IT BY 5,000.

SO AS YOU SEE, EVERYTHING ELSE EQUALS BELOW THAT.

SO IT'D BE A SALARY OF AN, A COUNTY SUPPLEMENT OF $49,561 FOR A TOTAL COST OF $60,071.

'CAUSE IT WOULD PAY BACK A RETIREMENT TO YES.

I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING.

IT WOULD REDUCE MINE BY 5,000 OF THAT STATE SUPPLEMENT.

RIGHT? THAT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE JOHN'S SALARY STAYING EXACTLY THE SAME.

HIM LOWERING HIS STATE SUPPLEMENT 5,000 AND HE CAN'T CHANGE THAT STATE SU ONCE 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO POST ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.

SO HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE SALARY FOR FISCAL 24.

SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND IS EITHER GONNA COME, HAVE TO COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE OR SOMETHING ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

DO YOU MIND REPEATING AGAIN? I KNOW YOU SAID IT ONCE, BUT I WAS TYPING AND I TYPED SLOW.

HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE IS THIS TO THE COUNTY? 60,000.

$71 TOTAL INCREASE.

ONE, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO DO THIS BEFORE WE FINISH THE BUDGET.

THAT, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THE PROCESS IS WRONG.

UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT FAIR FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE TO DO, MAKE THESE DECISIONS RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE'VE ADDRESSED THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HANGING OUT THERE THAT HAVE TO BE PAID.

I'M JUST AGAIN, STATING THE FACT.

UNDERSTOOD.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IS THERE A SECOND? OH WAIT, WAIT, WHAT'S THE MOTION? WAS IT YOUR, WAS IT YOUR MOTION? IT WAS MY MOTION.

WAIT ONE SECOND.

THE MOTION WAS, IS TO ADJUST THE SALARY OF OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO MEET THAT WITH A 5,000 REDUCTION IN PAY OF WHAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY SALARY.

AND THE NET COST OF THAT WOULD BE $55,071, 60, 60,000.

JOHN'S TAKING FIVE OFF THE, OH, WHAT I GAVE Y'ALL HAS THE REDUCTION OF 5,000 INCLUDED.

THE TOTAL COST IS 71.

THE SUPPLEMENT AMOUNT FOR THE SALARY ITSELF IS 49,561.

AND CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THE TOTAL FOR THE FOUR ELECTED POSITIONS WAS? NET TO THE COUNTY? 48,000.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

DID WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE YOU WANTED TO SPEAK, SIR? NO, I GOT CLARIFICATION.

THERE AND WATCH THE DAM LEAK AND THEN RUPTURE AS IT IS TO BE PROACTIVE AND SAVE YOU THE COST OF THE DAM.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS HOPING.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT? I'M, UH, LARRY, DID YOU WANT SPEAK? DID YOU WANT TO I KNOW, I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT.

DID YOU WANT DEFER THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA FINISH ALL, EVERYTHING, UM, TODAY.

DID YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING? MAKE A COMMENT ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

COME ON UP.

COME ON UP, SIR.

IT IS NOT AN EASY SOLUTION.

THERE'S NOT AS, 'CAUSE IT'S A DIFFICULT PROBLEM.

UH, ONE THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF WAS WHEN A PERSON SAVES US MONEY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A PART OF THAT MONEY THAT THEY SAVED A SAVE.

WHETHER IT'S JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OR SOMETHING FOR AN ATTABOY.

'CAUSE IT'S JUST AS EASY FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO SIT

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AND YOU'VE GOT GOOD EMPLOYEES THAT WHEN THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY DO FROM EIGHT TO FIVE AND NOT JUST SIT ON A LOG AND WATCH THE CLOCK RUN IT, IT'S, IT'S, I'D SAY IT, IT, IT, IT'S ENCOURAGING, IT'S SELF-FULFILLING.

IT GIVES 'EM A, A, A, A, A SENSE OF VALUE TO SOME WAY.

BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THAT WE APPRECIATE IT AND HERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THEY'D SAY, HERE'S AN ATTABOY ATTA GIRL, BUT WE APPRE WE APPRECIATE YOU SAVED US X DOLLARS.

AND, AND WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME ONE TIME BONUS OR SOME TIME RECOGNITION AWARD EVEN ON THE LOWER END.

IF THEY FIND YOU SOMETHING THAT'D SAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, A, A A THOUSAND DOLLARS, BE ABLE TO GIVE 'EM A $50 DINNER TICKET OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SO THAT EVERYBODY PARTICIPATES AND, AND HAS THE INTEREST IN WORKING FOR THE TAXPAYERS.

THANK I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

THAT THAT IT, IT'S, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE LARRY'S TALKING ABOUT HERE.

THERE'S A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THERE'S A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT BEING MET.

AND WE'RE SITTING HERE HAVING TO, TO ONCE AGAIN MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T.

AND THAT'S A TOUGH POSITION.

I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT, UH, I, I WISH WE COULD, UH, SIT HERE AND SAY, EVERYBODY COMES IN HERE.

GRANT YOUR REQUEST.

AND WE'RE NOT IN THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW UNLESS WE MAKE A SIGNIFICANT HIKE IN YOUR PROPERTY TAX.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE WE MAKE A MOTION , JUST BECAUSE WE MAKE A MOTION TODAY, UH, DOESN'T MEAN AT THE END OF THE DAY OR AT A CONTINUED MEETING THAT WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGES TO THAT.

BUT I KNOW WE'RE, UH, AND I MEAN IF, UH, I MEAN IF THIS, IF THIS MEETING DOESN'T GET FINISHED TODAY OR WHATEVER TIME IT DOES GET FINISHED, WE CAN CHANGE IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

BUT, UH, THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTA MAKE.

SORRY, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? YES.

IF YOU WOULD LIMIT TO TO JUST A COUPLE MINUTES.

WE WE CAN, NO, I WON'T TAKE A MINUTE.

UH, ROBERT ANDERSON BEEN SELF-EMPLOYED ALL MY LIFE.

SO, UH, YOU DON'T WORK, YOU DON'T MAKE ANYTHING PEOPLE HIRE ON FOR A SALARY AND FOR A JOB.

YOU KNOW, YOU EXPECT INCREMENTAL RAISES, YOU EXPECT COST OF LIVING RAISES AND SUCH AS THAT.

BUT TO JUST SAY ONE OFFICE IS EQUAL TO ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE YOU FOUND OUT A PRICE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, YOU HIRED ON IT A PARTICULAR THING, YOU GET PAID A PARTICULAR THING, YOU'RE EXPECTED TO DO A PARTICULAR JOB.

SO, AND IN MY OPINION, EVERYBODY OUGHT TO DO IT AND GET THE ATTABOY, THAT'S THE WAY THEY OUGHT TO DO THEIR WORK.

IN MY JOB, IF YOU DON'T DO THE EXTRA, GO THE EXTRA MILE, YOU DON'T GET PAID.

SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN EVERYBODY GETTING COST OF LIVING RAISES THAN SOME PEOPLE GETTING $10,000 OR SOMEBODY GETTING $60,000 OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

I THINK THE LONGER YOU DO A JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY DO GET PAID MORE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S ALWAYS FAIR, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE AMERICAN SYSTEM AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

THANK YOU SIR.

I'M GONNA COMMENT BACK ON THAT.

WE, UM, UM, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED A 3% COST OF LIVING RAISE FOR NON-ELECTED COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SET IN PLACE HERE AND, AND NOT FOR ELECTED POINT.

ITEM LATER IN THE MEETING.

THEY DON'T GET COST COLLISION RACES OR IS THAT JUST NOT GETTING, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

BUT, BUT, BUT AS, AS THIS POINT, THE ANSWER IS NO.

UM, UH, IF WE HAD MORE MONEY, WE CERTAINLY WOULD.

BUT WE'RE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE TELLING US THAT WE CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT ADDITIONAL POSITIONS.

AND SO DO YOU, DO YOU GIVE, DO YOU GIVE A COST OF LIVING RAISE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS OR DO YOU FUND THESE POSITIONS OVER HERE? IT'S, YOU KNOW, DO YOU EQUALIZE SALARIES OVER HERE OR DO YOU FUND POSITIONS? SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE HARD PART OF, UH, SETTING UP HERE.

SO, BUT, BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT BECAUSE WE MADE A MOTION AND PASSED IT WHILE AGO DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T REVISIT THAT AGENDA

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WE'RE ITEM D, WE'LL DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION.

SALARY GRIEVANCE PROCESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODED, UH, SECTION 1 5 2 0 1 4.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AND THAT PROCESS.

AND SO THE OPTIONS ARE IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS TAKE A POOL FROM THE JURORS, UM, COMM COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? YES SIR.

I DON'T WANT TO DO IT LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PICK NINE MEMBERS.

AND THESE NINE MEMBERS WOULD BE THE COUNTY JUDGE, WHICH IS BE YOU, PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, PARKER COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY CLERK, DISTRICT CLERK AND COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

AND THEN THE NUMBER OF WHATEVER WE NEED BE DRAWN OUT OF THE POOL TO MAKE THE NINE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.

SO THOSE PEOPLE, ARE THOSE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE EVEN IF THEY'RE INVOLVED? YES.

THEY CAN BE ON THE COMMITTEE.

ACCORDING TO THIS PAPER, THEY HAVE AN OPTION.

WHAT? THEY HAVE AN OPTION LALA TO SERVE.

I, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SERVE, EVEN THOUGH IT AFFECTS US, WE CAN SERVE AND I BELIEVE WE CAN VOTE.

YOU CAN, YEAH.

THEY CAN SERVE, THEY CAN VOTE.

WELL, WE, I EVERYBODY, WE VOTED LAST YEAR FOR, FOR RAISES OURSELF.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

NO, NO, NO.

WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M SAYING LALA, IS THAT LAST YEAR, IF YOU COMPARE THIS CONFLICT, WE VOTED OURSELVES OR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT VOTED FOR BRACES.

SO IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENCE OF THAT.

SO IT'S NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

WELL, IT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NINE FROM THE GRAND JURY.

WERE UN UNDERSTOOD AND I TOTALLY CAN ELECTED OFFICIALS, RIGHT.

TO BRING SOMEBODY IN HERE FROM THE JURORS, WHICH DID A, A, A, A ADMIRABLE JOB, I'M SURE.

BUT TO COME IN HERE AND THEN TRY TO ALL OF A SUDDEN TRY TO COME UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT THESE JOBS ARE AND TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE TIME AND YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE, WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED.

AND THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO TRY TO DO THAT.

AND THEY, THEY CAME TO THE BEST CONCLUSION THAT THEY COULD.

UH, I WILL, I WILL.

MY MOTION IS FOR THESE PEOPLE, I'LL SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, OUR MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND SECOND BY MYSELF IS, IS THAT WE TAKE THAT OPTION TWO, NOT THE POOL IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR FROM THE JURY POOL.

WE STILL GOT A POOL.

BUT IT'S LESS BECAUSE IT'S INVOLVING INTERNALLY.

I UNDERSTAND.

COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WILL, UH, WILL THAT GRIEVANCE INCLUDE THE FOUR POSITIONS AND MR. SWAIN? YES.

SO THERE'S A FORMAL PROCEDURE FOR IF THEY FILE FOR GRIEVANCE FILING FOR IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK I PROBABLY AM NOT, BECAUSE I'M NOT A COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I PROBABLY DON'T FALL UNDER THAT GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

OR IT SAYS COUNTY ATTORNEY.

NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S ABOUT ASKING.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT ASKING FOR THE INCREASE IN SALARY AS FAR AS THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE OR ASK TO GO THROUGH THAT.

I THINK MY SALARY REQUEST INCREASED FROM YOU GUYS.

IS, IS SURELY DISCRETIONARY, I THINK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, I CAN PULL IT UP, BUT I REMEMBER THERE'S A, WITHIN THE SALARY GRIEVANCE STATUTE, THERE'S EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE DA IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.

LIKE YOU SAID, HE'S A STATE EMPLOYEE, NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

SO HE DOESN'T HAVE, UM, THAT GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND AS FAR AS MEMBERSHIP GOES, IS IT, ARE THE MEMBERS REQUIRED TO BE COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS OR CAN THEY JUST BE PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY? IT'S DEFINED BY STATUTE ON, ON WHO MAKES UP.

THERE'S THE TWO, EITHER THE NINE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE PULLED FROM THE GRAND JURY POOL OR BY STATUTE, THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS PLUS THE NUMBER TO MAKE UP THE NINE VOTING MEMBERS.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S TWO.

AND SO, UM, JUST TO KIND OF REVIEW THAT AS WELL, UM, IT SAYS A SIX OR MORE OF THE MEMBERS VOTE TO RECOMMEND AN INCREASE.

UM, THEN THE COMMITTEE SHALL SUBMIT ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UH, IF SIX TO EIGHT MEMBERS VOTE TO RECOMMEND THE INCREASE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE MEETING.

AND SO IT'S ONLY IF IT'S AN, UM, ALL NINE MEMBERS VOTE TO RECOMMEND THE E INCREASE, DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY THEN GO INTO THE BUDGET? OKAY.

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WE CAN VOTE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, BRIANNA.

ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE VOTE.

WHEN, WHEN WILL WE KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA FILE A GRIEVANCE? SO WHAT, WHAT BRIANNA WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS USUALLY COUNTIES AND WE DID A RESEARCH.

COUNTIES WILL CHOOSE A SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY FISCAL YEAR.

THAT'S JUST TO PREPARE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT A SALARY GRIEVANCE PROCESS WILL HAPPEN.

THIS IS JUST TO BE PREPARED AND USED IF NEEDED.

AND SO THIS ACTUALLY GIVES, UM, THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE AND OUR DISTRICT CLERK TIME TO PULL THE GRAND JURORS IF THE NEED OF 'EM IS THERE, WHICH AT THE VOTE TODAY, WE WILL NEED A COUPLE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO NOT ONLY PICK THE ONES THAT WILL COMPOSE OF THE TOTAL NINE AFTER ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME EXTRAS JUST IN CASE THOSE MEMBERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO SERVE DURING THE COMMITTEE.

AND SO I WILL LIKE TO ASK THAT TODAY.

WE, UM, CHOOSE THOSE MEMBERS, UM, AND I HAVE THE ENVELOPE, I HAVE THE GRAND JUROR'S LIST, AND THEN I HAVE THE ENVELOPE TO GIVE TO OUR COUNTY CLERK TO PULL THOSE NAMES AND TO HAVE 'EM READY IF IN CASE WE DO GO ON A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE, UH, PROCESS.

AS I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT'S THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE THAT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

THESE, THESE PEOPLE WERE ON THE GRAND JURY AT ONE TIME, CORRECT? OR THEY'RE ON THE GRAND JURY NOW? THEY WERE SELECTED.

WE'RE ON THE GRAND JURY.

ON A GRAND JURY AND HAVE SERVED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THAT'S HOW THEY'RE PULLED.

FROM THE SYSTEM THAT ENA USES.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE NAMES THAT WERE, WERE CALLED OUT, WE HAVE THREE OF THOSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WE WILL PULL, IS THAT RIGHT? THREE OR FOUR.

WE'LL CHOOSE EXTRAS.

I NEED ABOUT 15 TO MY EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE GONNA BE RANKED FROM LAST YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA NEED THEM.

WE CHOSE DOUBLE BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE CALLED THAT, THAT WERE SELECTED, THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO COUNT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE THIS YEAR.

PROBABLY AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN NOTED, UH, HE WAS NOT SARCASTIC WITH THAT.

WELL, THEY NEED TWO MORE, BUT, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME TO GET 'EM.

SO I WAS GONNA LET YOU KNOW UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 52 IS WHERE IT DEFINES THE SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE PROCESS, ALL OF THAT.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO IT, WHICH IS 1 52 0.017.

IT SAYS THIS SUBCHAPTER DOES NOT APPLY TO A JUDGE OF A COURT OF RECORD.

A PRESIDING JUDGE OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN A COUNTY WITH A POPULATION OF 3.3 MILLION OR MORE A DISTRICT ATTORNEY PAID WHOLLY BY STATE FUNDS OR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ASSISTANCE, INVESTIGATORS OR EMPLOYEES, A COUNTY AUDITOR, COUNTY PURCHASING AGENT, OR THE AUDITOR, OR PURCHASING AGENT'S ASSISTANCE OR OTHER EMPLOYEES, OR A PERSON EMPLOYED UNDER SECTION 76.004 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S PROCEED WITH THIS.

YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE NAMES OUT? UH, WE NOT, SHOULD NOT GET UP.

THAT'S OKAY.

UH, THE FIRST NAME IS BRITTANY PURDY.

P U R D Y IS RICH IN HERE.

HE STEPPED OUT AND GET SOME WATER.

H I N D M A N.

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S H U M W A Y.

R H O D E S? YES.

RACHEL, HOW DO YOU SPELL THE LAST NAME? B U T C H E R.

1 2 3, 4, 5.

LET'S 10 KOBE GLICK.

LAST SPELLED G L I C K.

COLBY OR COLBY? KBY.

K O B Y.

ELIZABETH WHITE.

LANCE WEAVER, HOW MANY ARE YOU GONNA DRAW? 10.

COUNSELOR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, CAN I, I NEED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, LALA, WHAT WAS THE LAST NAME OF THE WAR INDUSTRY? WARREN BEATTY.

I'LL BE BACK.

B E A T T Y.

BUT THEY'RE DRAWING NAMES AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THEM DRAWING NAMES.

AND LEGALLY THAT'S THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR.

CAN THEY BE ON IT AGAIN THIS YEAR? JUST CURIOUS.

IT'S RANDOM.

IT'S A RANDOM DRAWING.

THEY WOULD BE, IF, IF IN FACT THEY WERE, BUT IT'S HIGHLY DOUBTFUL.

THEY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY, BUT THE, I'M JUST ASKING.

HIGHLY DOUBTFUL.

THAT'S DOUBTFUL.

I, LET'S NOT, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM G ON DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FFY 2324, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO UNDER ITEM A GENERAL FUND BUDGET UPDATES.

UH, BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? DO YOU WANT TO MOVE, YOU WANT TO MOVE ON DOWN FROM THAT ONE RIGHT NOW? I, I DO WANNA START OFF THAT I DID NOT RECEIVE LETTERS, UM, WITH THE PRIORITY LIST FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT REQUEST, THAT SUBMITTED A REQUEST PREVIOUSLY, BUT I DID ADD THE ONES THAT I DID RECEIVE THE PRIORITY LIST FOR.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ZOOM IN A PRINTOUT OR JUST THIS, I DO NOT HAVE A PRINTOUT FOR YOU, BUT I CAN PRINT IT OUT AFTER COURT.

SO YOU'RE, UH, ASKING US TO VOTE FOR THIS STUFF.

SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS UNDER PRIORITY ONE, THAT DEPARTMENT STAYED WITH, THAT'S HOW THEY DID THEIR PRIORITIES.

AND SO I CAN, CAN I INTERRUPT AGAIN? WHAT WAS THAT? JUDGE, IF WE'RE GONNA START VOTING ON THIS STUFF AS WHAT I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEN COME BACK TO IT.

PROCEED PLEASE.

I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING.

WE DO THAT.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND SCROLL DOWN.

I DO NOT, BUT I CAN PRINT FOR YOU.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE COPIES OF THIS IN OUR MATERIALS TODAY.

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I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE A BREAK AND, AND MAKE COPIES OF THOSE SO THAT WE COULD SEE 'EM.

G ONE, GENERAL FUND BUDGET UPDATES.

CAN I JUST ASK THE COURT SOMETHING? MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE I'M NEW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS WITHOUT ONE VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PUZZLE, AND THAT IS OUR REVENUE OR OUR TAX LEVY.

SO AT WHAT POINT, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THESE DEPARTMENTS MULTIPLE TIMES.

WELL, YOU GOTTA BE, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT, UH, WE SHOULDN'T ASK FOLKS TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCIL, BUT AT SOME POINT, I, I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE GOOD, HONEST, HARDWORKING FOLKS THAT WE'RE TELLING TO GO BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

IT SEEMS LIKE AT SOME POINT IF THEY'RE THERE TO DO THEIR JOBS, WE SHOULD TRUST THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.

AND I APPRECIATE THEM PRIORITIZING THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASK.

BUT WE CAN ONLY GO OVER THIS SO MANY TIMES BEFORE WE JUST FACE THE TRUTH OF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE, A LOT OF THIS WILL FALL IN.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS THAT BEFORE DIGGING INTO MORE VOTING ON INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, WE TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA HAVE.

ARE YOU PRINTING THAT? SO WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? I'M GONNA, IF WE WANT TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS, GREAT.

LET'S DO IT.

AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

LET'S TAKE A FIVE, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

STARTED HERE.

ANYTHING, JUST CALL THEM.

WE WERE ON G ONE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ON.

OKAY, GOOD.

UNDER ITEM

[7.G. Discuss/Approve General Fund budget for FY2023-2024 including but limited to: (Judge Deen)1. General Fund Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)2. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests Updates including but not limited to: (Kim Rivas / JudgeDeen)a. IT projects & budget requests.b. Capital projects.3. Discuss/Vote on salaries and benefits for non-elected employees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)4. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]

WHAT TIME IS IT? JUDGE THE RECORD SHOW WHAT I'M GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE PRECISE.

2 44 IS THE, UH, RETURN FROM RECESS.

GET A COMMISSIONER TO YOUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.

IS THERE A ACTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OR LOOK AT OR CONSIDERATION TO DO DURING THIS PROCESS? AS WE LOOK AT THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION.

I, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE LOOKING AT THIS MOST RECENT SHEET WHERE WE ASKED THE VARIOUS HEADS OF EACH DEPARTMENT TO GO BACK AND PRIORITIZE INTO, UH, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIERS.

YOU KNOW, TIER ONE BEING, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THIS TO RUN OUR DEPARTMENT EFFECTIVELY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF I'M READING THOSE NUMBERS CORRECTLY, ONLY ABOUT $300,000 FELL INTO PRIORITY TWO ITEMS. WHEREAS 15.8 MILLION FELL INTO PRIORITY ONE, WHICH MEANS ROUGHLY 2%, ABOUT 1.9% OF THE REQUESTS THAT ORIGINALLY CAME ACROSS OF THAT 16 MILLION WERE CONSIDERED PRIORITY TOO.

SO THAT TELLS ME THAT THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS TRIED TO KEEP THEIR PENCIL SHARP WHEN THEY PUT THESE TOGETHER.

I DON'T THINK I'VE MET A DEPARTMENT HEAD YET THAT CAME ACROSS AS CAVALIER OR FRIVOLOUS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY.

UM, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED IN MY SHORT TIME HERE WITH HOW SERIOUSLY THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS TREAT THE FACT THAT WE OPERATE OFF OF MONEY THAT COMES FROM TAXPAYERS.

UH, WE HAVE SERVICES TO PROVIDE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES ON OUR HANDS.

WE ARE THE SIXTH FASTEST GROWING COUNTY OUT OF OVER 3,100 COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WE'RE

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ALREADY IN THE BOTTOM 10% OF COUNTIES IN TEXAS FROM A TAX RATE PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT ONLY ABOUT 16% OF PROPERTY TAXES THAT EACH TAXPAYER PAYS GOES TO THE COUNTY.

A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT GOES TO THE SCHOOLS SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO THIRDS.

SO IT'S ON US TO BE AS EFFICIENT AND FRUGAL AS POSSIBLE WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

BUT I'M OVER A PRECINCT, SO I'LL PUT IT IN PRECINCT TERMS. I COULD SAVE THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY BY JUST NOT CHANGING THE OIL IN ANY OF OUR TRUCKS THIS YEAR.

I COULD SAVE THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY BY NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE TIRES IN OUR TRUCKS THIS YEAR.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HAVE VERY GOOD LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND I THINK THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE NEEDS TO BE KNOWN.

IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE IT HELPS KEEP US ACCOUNTABLE.

HOWEVER, THERE IS NO ACCOMMODATION IN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR INFLATION.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF WE OPERATE ONLY BY THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE EVERY YEAR, WE ARE COMMUNICATING TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE NOT WILLING TO FUND THEM ON A COST OF LIVING BASIS.

THAT'S BOTTOM LINE.

WHAT IT MEANS IF YOU RUN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE TELLING YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT YOU CANNOT PAY THEM A COST OF LIVING INCREASE.

YEAH, WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW.

SOUNDS LIKE IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS TAX RATE THING FIGURED OUT FIRST.

THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND DISCUSS THESE OTHER ITEMS. I HAD MENTIONED THIS I THINK SEVERAL TIMES IN OUR DISCUSSION AT THE TAX RATE.

AND IF WE LOOK AT HISTORICAL, OUR, THE HISTORICAL RATE OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AS THAT REMINDER, WE'VE HAD DEBT, WE'VE HAD DRAWN DOWN A BOND FUNDS, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE TAX RATE WAS NOT ADJUSTED TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS.

BASICALLY, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, I THINK TO ALLOW TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AND OPERATE, YOU KNOW, WITH A NO NEW REVENUE RATE BECAUSE PART OF, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE FROM THOSE DRAWDOWNS IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, FUNDS THAT WOULD GO TO YOUR M AND O.

UM, AND THEN ALSO OF COURSE THEN USING, YOU KNOW, OUR FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME REVENUE STREAMS COMING IN HIGHER THAN PROJECTED AS WELL AS US NOT SPENDING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE TALK ABOUT IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS NOW AT THIS POINT ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT OUR OPERATING BUDGET AND HOW IT'S GROWN OVER THE YEARS AND EVERY, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE HAS SOME SORT OF AN INCREASE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR, FOR HEADCOUNT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN IS, IS, IS IMPORTANT TO ALLOW THESE OFFICES TO FUNCTION EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.

UM, SO AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT OF OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN OUR TAX RATE AND, AND WE HAVE HAD DEBT THAT WE'VE DRAWN DOWN THE, THE VOTER APPROVED DEBT AND NOT ADJUSTING OUR RATE TO THEN PAY FOR THOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING THOSE NEW CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS AND, YOU KNOW, MOVING THAT TO DEBT SERVICE AND NOT GETTING AS MUCH ON THE M AND O SIDE AS WE OTHERWISE WOULD TO FUNCTION.

AND SO, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU JUST AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS A DISCUSSION POINT AND TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS, AS WE GO THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THE RATE NEEDS TO BE.

AND SO THERE'S TWO BIG THINGS AS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADDRESS YOUR RATE, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS NEW ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY TO FUNCTION, AS WELL AS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO A TAXPAYER? UM, SO WHEN THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED HOW THE, UH, TAX RATE WAS, WAS CALCULATED AND HOW, HOW MUCH COUNTIES COULD, UM, INCREASE OVER A GIVEN YEAR, IT USED TO BE THEN 8% BEFORE THEY CALLED IT, UH, THE ROLLBACK RATE.

AND SO THAT WOULD TRIGGER AN ELECTION.

AND SO NOW THAT'S CALLED THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND SO IT CHANGED THE CAP FOR COUNTIES FROM 8% TO 3.5%.

UH, ONE THING IT ALSO DID IS BUILT IN WHAT'S CALLED THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU HAVE FROM YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND SO THAT IN BETWEEN, UM, CAN BE BANKED FOR A FUTURE YEAR.

SO IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN IF YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

AND SO BECAUSE THE COUNTY, ONCE THEY STARTED, UM, WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE, WE HAVE BASIC BASICALLY ALL THAT WE COULD, MEANING YOU HAD FROM THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE BANKED.

UM, AND SO THIS YEAR WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR.

IF, IF A PORTION OF THAT IS NOT USED, THEN TECHNICALLY IT'S, IT'S LOST BECAUSE

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IT'S A ROLLING.

CAN I INTERRUPT THREE YEARS? YES.

CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? I NEED TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF.

IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT.

THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO, UM, THE MEETING AT 2 54.

SORRY, YOU OR DAVID GEORGE.

SORRY.

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

JUST ACT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.

HEY BRIAN, JUST, JUST A POINT HERE, THE, THE AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE TODAY IS TO SET A TAX RATE, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SETTING TAX RATE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT.

THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

IT'S NOT CORRECT.

AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, THE DATE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT WHILE STILL BEING ABLE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

BUT ARE WE BACK? OKAY.

BUT WHENEVER WE HAVE TO SET A TAX RATE AT SOME POINT THAT SAYS IT WILL BE NO HIGHER THAN THIS AMOUNT, CORRECT? IT THAT SETS THE CEILING.

BUT WE, THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY EITHER.

THAT IS NOT TODAY.

AND I DID NOT EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE TODAY.

IT'S JUST TO, UM, DISCUSS IT AND THEN LOOK AT A DATE THAT WE WOULD, THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE VOTING ON IT.

AND THEN HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO THEN THAT WAY WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE PUBLICATIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER, UM, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, AS WELL AS ANY SORT OF AGENDAS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO WHAT WE'LL BE VOTING ON WHEN THAT DAY IS, WHICH IS NOT TODAY.

WE'LL BE VOTING ON A PROPOSED TAX RATE THAT WILL SAY NO MORE, NO GREATER THAN THIS AMOUNT, AND THEN WHEN WE ACTUALLY ADOPT THE TAX RATE, WHICH WILL BE TOWARD THE END OF NEXT MONTH PROBABLY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS YEP.

WHAT, WHEN THAT DATE IS GONNA BE.

JUST, JUST A POINT OF YES, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ADOPTING A TAX RATE TODAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, SO WITH THE SPREADSHEET THAT YOU ALL HAVE, I'LL JUST DO THIS AS WELL.

DO YOU WANNA HIT THE WHATEVER THE BUTTON IS.

AT THAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR A TAXPAYER.

UM, LET'S ZOOM IN ALONG.

SO IF WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ONE TODAY, THEN BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLT SAID EARLIER, HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA HAVE? I THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED.

IN THEORY, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS, IS APPROPRIATING, I MEAN, APPROVING WHAT'S NECESSARY.

AND THEN WHEN WE FIGURED THAT OUT, THEN WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO FUND IT.

SO WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

AND, AND SO ASKING PEOPLE TO, TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIRS DIDN'T RESULT IN VERY MUCH.

SO THAT AGAIN, PUTS US IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

SO I GOT IT.

I WAS JUST GONNA REVIEW, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE YOU ALL THESE AS A REMINDER OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IT MEANS.

SO WE HAVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

I PUT, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, UM, IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

IF WE WERE ONE PENNY ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND AGAIN, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE USING THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE.

UM, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT YOU'VE BANKED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND HAVE NOT GONE UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

WHAT THEY BASICALLY ALLOWS COUNTIES TO DO IS BANK THAT FOR FUTURE YEARS.

AGAIN, IT'S THREE YEARS, SO NEXT YEAR, THAT FIRST YEAR WILL GO AWAY.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS YOU TO THEN INCREASE THAT RATE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE EVENT THAT YOU NEED IT, UH, FOR THAT YEAR.

SO THE TWO THINGS, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IN MIND OF WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT DOES THE TAX RATE NEED TO BE SET AT? SO IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT DOES IT MEAN FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT, FROM PROJECTED REVENUE, AS WELL AS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOUR TAXPAYERS? AND SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL THE NUMBERS THAT I PRESENTED THE OTHER DAY.

BUT AS YOU GO UP, UM, FROM THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE UNUSED, UM, INCREMENTAL RATE, YOU KNOW, AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IT'S AN INCREASE OF 2.6 MILLION.

IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE UNUSED OR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE, IT'S ABOUT 17.7 MILLION.

AND SO THIS COLUMN HERE SHOWS AS YOU GO UP THE DIFFERENT TIERS, THEN YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THEN AGAIN, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T LOOK

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AND SO, UM, JUST FOR EASY MATH PURPOSES, UM, DOING IT PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF, AS YOU GO UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $10 $5 AND THEN GOING, YOU KNOW, TO THE MAX YOU WOULD GO, IT'S $68 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, ADDITIONAL.

AND SO IF WE LOOK AT, UM, AS I HAD MENTIONED, I GOT THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS AT 333,120.

UM, YOU KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS THAT ANNUALLY, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S $176.

AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR DEBT RATE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND SO AGAIN, I GUESS AS A, UH, REFRESHER, M AND O, SO FUNCTIONING OF THE GENERAL FUND, YOUR I N S, WHICH IS YOUR DEBT SERVICE TO PAY YOUR VOTER APPROVED DEBT, AS WELL AS THEN ROAD IN BRIDGE.

AND SO AT THE BOTTOM, I'VE JUST PUT TOTALS, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE ARE, UH, VOTED ON IN TAX LE SEPARATE LEGAL TAX RATES THAT BOTH ALL OF 'EM HAVE TO BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY.

BUT THEN IF WE LOOK AT THE TAX RATE AS A WHOLE FOR THE COUNTY, UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SO THAT'S HERE AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL AS AGAIN, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR, FOR THE TAXPAYER AND HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL, UM, TAX DOLLARS DOES IT REQUIRE PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

AND THEN, UM, FOR THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD, I GUESS I'LL MAKE THIS COMMENT AGAIN, UH, NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

WE'VE GOT 2.609, BUT WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 4 MILLION THAT'S RECURRING THAT'LL COME BACK THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS YEAR THAT WAS PAID OUT OF FUND BALANCE LAST YEAR.

SO YOU, AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF, FOR OTHERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TO ALL OF OUR BUDGET COURTS, I WAS ASKED ON THE FIRST DAY IS WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WE HAVE OVER LAST YEAR? AND I SAID THAT NUMBER IS ZERO.

IT'S BECAUSE WE, IT'S ACTUALLY A NEGATIVE NUMBER, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE BALANCED OUR BUDGET, UM, WITH FUND BALANCE.

AND SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP ALL THAT WHAT WE BUDGETED FROM FUND BALANCE AND ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THEN HAVE ADDITIONAL UH, DOLLARS.

WELL, MY POINT THOUGH WAS IT WAS POSITIONS THAT WERE ARE RECURRING COSTS YES.

THAT COME BACK.

SO, SO, UM, WE'RE 1.4 MILLION UNDER THAT.

'CAUSE I'M LOOKING HERE AT JUST M AND O.

WE HAVE 2.609 WHERE IT SHOULD BE AROUND FOUR.

SO WE'VE GOT 1.4 TO PAY FOR BEFORE WE START.

WE'VE GOT $3 MILLION FROM THE, UH, SANTA FE BUILDING, CITY OF WEATHERFORD.

AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE WE'VE APPROVED SINCE THEN, HAVE WE, UH, WE WE'RE NOT, UH, NAILED DOWN ON THAT YET, ARE WE? WE SIGNED A CONTRACT IF APPROPRIATED AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT.

WE'RE, IF FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATED IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE NEED.

COMMISSIONER.

OH, I, I KNOW THE NEED, BUT WE LOST THE NEED WHEN THE JUVENILE DEAL COME UP.

I MEAN, WE STILL GOTTA HAVE, WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION HASN'T BEEN MADE YET.

OH, I KNOW.

BUT, AND AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT OPERATING COSTS AND I THINK THE LAST TIME WE MET, YOU KNOW, I, I MADE THE POINT THAT YES, WE HAVE OUR CAP, NON CAP AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OPERATING COSTS.

BUT BECAUSE OUR CAP, NON CAP EXPENSES, WE HAVE THOSE REQUESTS EVERY YEAR AND THEY CONTINUE TO GROW.

THEY'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING A BUILDING RIGHT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A ONE-TIME PURCHASE.

BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE CAP ON CAP CAP ITEMS, IT MAY NOT BE EVERY DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THOSE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR OPERATING COSTS, THOSE ARE KIND OF PART OF OUR OPERATING COSTS BECAUSE THEY KEEP OCCURRING.

AND NEEDING, YOU KNOW, AND IT, OR REQUESTED AND NEEDED BY THE DEPARTMENTS TO, TO FUNCTION.

SO I KNOW WE'VE STATED THIS A THOUSAND TIMES, THIS WILL BE 1,001.

THE, THE COST OF THE PERSONNEL REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE LAYING OUT THERE TODAY IS HOW MUCH BECKY? OVER 3 MILLION.

OVER 3 MILLION.

AND THE CAP AND NON CAP THAT WE HAVE SITTING OUT THERE TODAY, THAT 4.1.

HOW MUCH? 4.92 EMPLOYEES.

FOUR POINT.

SO THERE'S EIGHT PLUS THREE 11 PLUS 1.4 SITTING OUT THERE.

WE 12 SOMETHING THAT THAT THREE'S NOT THE TOTAL PRICE.

'CAUSE THEN YOU GOTTA REMODEL THE BUILDING.

UH, WELL, EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON TODAY.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST POINTING OUT HOW MUCH IS OUT THERE TO, TO BE PAID FOR SOMEWHERE IF, IF ALL THE REQUESTS WERE PAID FOR AND, AND MORE THAN THAT, IF WE BACK UP AND, AND GIVE, UH,

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AND SO WHAT I WOULD ASK, AND PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN PUT IT ON FRIDAY'S AGENDA OR HAVE THE DISCUSSION NOW OF WHEN DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT, UM, MY THOUGHT WAS HAVING THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, UH, VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, IF WE ARE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU DON'T ADOPT THE TAX RATE AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YOU HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO ADOPT.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, IT PROMPTLY ON YOUR WEBSITE, THE DATE OF THAT MEETING AND WHAT THE PROPOSED, UM, RATES ARE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT FOR SEVEN DAYS.

UM, AND THEN THE PUBLICATION HAS TO GO INTO THE NEWSPAPER AT LEAST FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO THE VOTE ON THE TAX RATE.

AND SO, UM, THE TAX RATE COULD BE VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, WHICH IS THE DAY THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THE BUDGET.

UM, YOU COULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON TO THEN ADOPT A TAX RATE AND THEN ADOPTING YOUR BUDGET.

OR IT CAN BE NO MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE 25TH SINCE THAT'S THE DATE THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THE BUDGET.

SO THE SOONER WE KNOW THAT, JUST THE BETTER.

SO WE KNOW, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, CYNTHIA CAN, UH, RESERVE, UM, PUBLICATIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER SO WE KNOW THAT WHEN IT'S GONNA GO ON THE WEBSITE AND ALL THOSE THINGS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE ON ALL THE, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLICATIONS, POSTING AND DATES REQUIRED.

SO IF YOU, I GUESS WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT THEN ON FRIDAY, WE COULD PUT IT ON IT JUST SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN IDEA OF FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION, BUT IS THERE ANY BENEFIT OF, UH, OF, UH, RECESSING THIS MEETING COMING BACK TOMORROW? HAS ANYBODY SEE ANY BENEFIT TO THAT? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WORK DONE ON WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLTON HAS TALKED ABOUT, LOOKING AT WHAT THE SCENARIOS ARE GONNA BE FOR EACH RESPECTIVE TAX RATE, WHAT THAT'S GONNA IMPACT, HOW THAT'S GONNA IMPACT, UM, WHETHER THE, HOW MUCH IS GONNA BE DRAWN, IF ANY, FROM GENERAL FUND, WHAT THAT TAX RATE NEEDS TO BE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE NEEDS WE HAVE KIND OF BACK DOOR INTO THIS TO START LOOKING AT FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

COMMISSIONER HOLT? I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE STEP TO LOOK AT.

UM, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME HERE.

HERE'S THE DEAL.

WE, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A PILE OF PAPER, WE'VE GOT A PILE OF INFORMATION HERE THAT, THAT, UH, I DON'T WANNA LET GO SOME OF THESE IMPORTANT DATES THAT WE COULD HAVE, UH, AS FAR AS MAKING DECISIONS THAT WE'RE NOT, IF WE, IF WE DON'T, IF WE WERE TO, UM, SUSPEND THIS MEETING AND RECONVENE TOMORROW.

RECESS.

YEAH, RECESS, YEAH.

UH, THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO, TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS STUFF AND THINGS MIGHT BE CLEARER FOR SOME OF US AND, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO, UH, PICK UP IF, IF, IF THAT, IF THERE'S ANYBODY BESIDES ME THAT HAS THAT OPINION, I'M JUST ASKING FOR MY, I MEAN, JUST SUGGESTING IT.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT AT ALL.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU KIND OF BREAK DOWN THE NUMBERS.

WE HAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND 180 DAYS WORTH OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET IN UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE.

SORRY, 160 DAYS.

I BELIEVE IT'S 159 TO BE EXACT.

TAXES THAT WE COLLECT FROM EACH PERSON, THE BUYING POWER THAT WE COLLECT FROM EACH PERSON HAS EFFECTIVELY DROPPED BY 19%.

IT'S 159 DAYS IN OUR CURRENT UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET REQUIREMENT.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS DATA WITH ANYONE THAT ASKS FOR IT, INCLUDING ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, IF YOU START FROM FISCAL YEAR 18 AND YOU CALCULATE WHAT PERCENT OF THE BUDGET THAT WE COVER USING THE FUND BALANCE, WE'VE GONE FROM 5.3% OF THE BUDGET UP TO LAST YEAR.

WE USED 10% OF THE BUDGET FROM FUND BALANCE.

SO LAST YEAR OF OUR BUDGET, 10% OF THAT WAS COVERED VIA FUND BALANCE, STARTING WITH THE SAME YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 18.

IF YOU USE THAT AS YOUR STARTING POINT ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS OF THE

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AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS, IS WE HAVE A DIVERGENCE BETWEEN, WE KEEP FUNDING MORE AND MORE OF OUR BUDGET FROM FUND BALANCE.

AND YET IF WE HOLD ONTO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THE EFFECTIVE AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECT IN TERMS OF BUYING POWER FROM EACH CITIZEN KEEPS GOING DOWN.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT WE'RE OKAY RIGHT NOW, BUT UNLESS WE MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS HERE VERY QUICKLY, VERY QUICKLY, THAT INCREASE IN FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF DAYS OF EXPENSES THAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS IS GOING TO GO SOUTH IN A HURRY.

SO WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND THINK AHEAD.

WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT.

WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.

BUT LIKE I USED, OR LIKE I SAID IN MY PRECINCT BARN EXAMPLE, I COULD SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY BY NOT CHANGING THE OIL IN MY TRUCKS.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE RECESS, RECONVENE TOMORROW AT 9:00 AM OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

WAIT A SECOND.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE HAS POINT.

I DID WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON SEVEN C IF IT CAME ACROSS THAT I WAS ANTI JEFF GETTING EQUALIZATION PAY.

I APOLOGIZE.

THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT BY COMMENTS I MADE.

IT'S NOT, WE'RE PAST THAT SIR, SIR, ABOUT THAT.

BRIANNA, WOULD YOU COME UP PLEASE? WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO RECESS UNTIL TOMORROW.

MY QUESTIONS TO YOU, HEARING WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, WOULD YOU BE IN A POSITION TO, UH, COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOME SCENARIOS AND BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TIME TO LOOK? YES, I HAVE, UM, MY BUDGET MEETING AT EIGHT 30.

SO IF WE, IF IT'S AT NINE, I MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE, BUT OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE BACK IT AT 10 O'CLOCK.

10 O'CLOCK WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, ONE THING THAT I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE AGAIN, AS WE'RE BUILDING CALENDARS AND DAYS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DAYS OF THE SALARY GRIEVANCE AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF STUFF, IT'LL PROBABLY REQUIRE, IF IT GOES TO GRIEVANCE, UM, TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING PROBABLY THE WEEK OF THE 18TH OR POSSIBLY THE WEEK OF THE 11TH.

'CAUSE THE WAY WE STRUCTURED IT, IT WAS HOPEFULLY IF THERE WAS ONE TO HAVE IT DONE THAT WEEK BEFORE.

AND THEN THE, UM, COURT SEPTEMBER 11TH COURT WOULD BE IF THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A GRIEVANCE FILED, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COURT TO TAKE ACTION ON THE 11TH.

UM, BUT THE WAY IT SETS IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAY AND EVERYTHING, THAT IT'LL PROBABLY PUSH IT WHERE THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL COURT THE WEEK OF THE 11TH OR THE 18TH.

SO I THINK THE SPEED THAT WE'RE MOVING AT RIGHT NOW, THERE MAY BE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL .

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AGAIN? WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE PLATTING.

WE WOULD NEED TO CALL THOSE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.

YES MA'AM.

WE TO CALL US.

YOU ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY? YES.

A LITTLE BIT GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM, IF WE RESCIND THE MOTION, WE'LL FINISH UP THE PLANNING ON THOSE THREE AND THEN WE WILL GO THERE.

I'LL WITHDRAW, I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION UNTIL, UH, LATER IN THE MEETING.

AND I'M, I'M MAKING THE MOTION TO CALL THOSE SUBJECT TO THE GENTLEMAN IN QUESTION, CONTACTING US WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF HE, YOU CONTINUE THOSE TWO TOMORROW TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE RECESSING YOU RECESS.

DO IT TOMORROW.

YEAH, WE'LL RECESS AND DO IT TOMORROW.

WE, WE RECESS? YOU DO THESE TOMORROW? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE COUNSELOR'S ADVICE.

WE RECESS? OKAY.

DONE.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

RECORDS SHOW THAT WE WILL RECESS AT THREE 13 AND AND RECONVENE TOMORROW AT 10:00 AM THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

I WANNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING, UH, AND RECONVENE FROM THE RECESS FROM YESTERDAY.

LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 10:00 AM AS WE AGREED TO, TO RECONVENE TODAY AT 10:00 AM.

UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND, UH, HAVE CYNTHIA ORTIZ COME UP AND JUST KIND OF, THE TIMELINES HAVE CHANGED JUST

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UM, IF YOU WOULD, CYNTHIA, COME UP AND GO OVER WHAT YOU HAVE HANDED OUT, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE TIMELINES NOW THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO MEET, SINCE THAT HAS CHANGED A BIT, THEN, UH, BRIANNA THEN, WE'LL, I'M GONNA GET WITH YOU AND KIND OF GO THROUGH, BUT IF YOU WOULD, BUT JUST A AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE OPENED THE MEETING.

WE DO HAVE THE QUORUM WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENT, AND,

UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, SO I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL THE DEADLINE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MUST MEET.

AND I GUESS BEFORE YOU PROCEED, JUST TO, JUST TO KIND OF, UM, WE, WE NEED AN AGENDA ITEM TO GO ON THIS.

AND SO BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND ON THE UNDER ITEM SIX, I'LL DISCUSS ON THE VOTE.

UM, BEAR WITH ME HERE, JUST ONE SECOND.

UH, LET'S, I'M SORRY.

LET'S GO TO ITEM THREE.

ITEM SIX.

ON ITEM G I'LL DISCUSS IMPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR F Y 2324, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

UH, SO YEAH, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CRITERIA TO COVER THE TIMELINE FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE UNDER ITEM G, PROCEED.

HEARING AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ADOPT BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

I HAVE GIVEN, UM, EACH ONE OF YOU THE DEADLINE REQUIREMENTS.

WE MUST MEET UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODES 1 52 0.013 THROUGH 1 52 0.016.

SO IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINES FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES AND THE SALARY GRIEVANCE PROCESS, WE MUST, UH, VOTE ON THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES TODAY.

THIS WILL ALLOW, UM, OUR OFFICE TO, UH, PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SALARY, UM, OF SALARY AND PERSONAL EXPENSES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

CONTACT THE PUBLIC MEMBERS THAT WERE SELECTED YESTERDAY AND THAT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR THE DAY OFF, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE, THE HEAR THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW, UH, TIME FOR US TO PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO, UM, THEM AS WELL ON THE PROCEDURES, THE DATE, THE TIME, THE LOCATION.

UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A, A VOTE ON WHAT DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD WORK BEST FOR YOU ALL.

AND IT WOULD BE BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 6TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 8TH, MOST LIKELY.

UM, FROM OUR PAST EXPERIENCE, UM, THE PUBLIC MEMBERS ARE USUALLY AVAILABLE OR THEIR AVAILABILITY, AVAILABILITY IS OPEN IN THE AFTERNOONS AFTER WORK.

SO MOST LIKELY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AN EVENING, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO POST THE AGENDA.

AND SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, THAT IS ON THE PUBLIC, UM, ON THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY.

AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

IF THE PROPOSED TAX RATE EXCEEDS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THE FOLLOWING SHOULD BE FOLLOWED.

WE SHOULD VOTE ON NINE 11, WHICH IS A PROPOSED TAX RATE.

UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO POST THE COUNTY, UM, ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE WITH THE LANGUAGE REQUIRED UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 26, UM, OH FIVE.

AND THEN WE WOULD PUBLISH THE NOTICE ON THE NEWSPAPER THAT TUESDAY OUR NEWSPAPER, LOCAL NEWSPAPER ONLY, UM, ALLOWS US TO PUBLISH ON, THEY ONLY PRINT TUESDAYS AND SATURDAYS.

AND SO THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PRINT ON THE TUESDAY NEWSPAPER AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON NINE 18 AND THEN BE ABLE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE ON THE 9 25.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, BRIANNA, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING ON THE TAX RATE? JUST WHERE SOME OF THESE DATES ARE COMING FROM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE JUST TO UM, REVIEW.

UH, SO AFTER THE NOTE, OFFICIAL NOTICE IS DELIVERED TO, UH, THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UM, THEN WITHIN FIVE DAYS AFTER THE DATE THE OFFICER RECEIVES NOTICE OF THE SALARY PERSONNEL EXPENSES.

UM, THAT'S THE TIME THAT THEY CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE.

SO WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF RECEIVING THAT, AND THEN, UM, THE COMMITTEE SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING NOT LATER THAN THE 10TH DAY AFTER THE REQUEST OF THE DATE IS RECEIVED OR THE DATE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SELECTS THE PUBLIC MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE DATES ARE COMING FOR WITH THAT.

AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS THE TAX RATE, WHICH WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, IF WE ARE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, UM, USUALLY YOU CAN HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN IF YOU'RE JUST AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, HAVE THAT PUBLIC

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UM, BUT IF YOU'RE ABOVE, YOU CAN ADOPT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU DON'T ADOPT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YOU HAVE TO ADOPT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THAT.

SO IN THE EVENT THE PUBLIC HEARING'S ON THE 18TH, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ADOPT THAT DAY BECAUSE THE, WE HAVE TO, UM, ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE ON THE SAME DAY, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE 25TH.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE TWO OPTIONS.

SO THE, THERE IS THE OPTION TO HAVE IT ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE DAY OF BUDGET ADOPTION IS HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND THEN SET THE TAX RATE AFTER THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE DAYS ARE COMING FROM AND WHY WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN 'EM.

AND THEN, UM, AS I HAD MENTIONED YESTERDAY, UM, ONCE THERE'S A VOTE ON IT, IT HAS TO BE ON THE WEBSITE FOR SEVEN DAYS, UM, BEFORE THE MEETING.

UM, AND THEN FIVE DAYS, UH, FOR PUBLICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER.

THANK YOU CYNTHIA.

OKAY, SO WE'RE AT THE, AT THE CONCLUSION OF YESTERDAY'S MEETING AS WE, UM, RECESSED TO TODAY, UH, IT WAS DISCUSSED TO LOOK AND, AND CONSIDER AND PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON, ON THE GENERATION OF REVENUE AND LOOKING AT WHAT OPTIONS THAT'S GONNA BE IN DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE TAX RATE'S GONNA BE AND NEEDING THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE SOME CRITICAL DECISIONS.

UH, BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION THAT, OR, OR WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE? NO, JUST, I MEAN I THINK THAT SPREADSHEET THAT I'VE PROVIDED, THERE'S VERY WELL THE BOTTOM HERE, THE TOP? NO, THE YESTERDAY.

SO AGAIN, THIS PROVIDES THE REVENUE, THE TAX RATE AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR A TAX FROM, YOU KNOW, NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR THE DISCUSSION.

WELL, AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THIS CAPTAIN NON CAP, BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF IS CONTINGENT ON, UH, ON, UH, POSITIONS BEING APPROVED AND FUNDED.

SOME OF IT'S NOT.

UH, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO, UH, DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS FIRST OR WHEREVER Y'ALL WANT TO GO.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE ABOUT, UH, 'CAUSE I SEE SOME ITEMS ON THE CAP AND NON CAP THAT, UH, IN, IN TALKING TO MARK LONG ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THIS MORNING, HE, HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS GONNA TAKE THOSE TWO PICKUPS OFF OF THERE.

IS THAT WHY THESE ARE IN RED? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T EXACTLY FOLLOW, 'CAUSE THE COURTROOM, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM, BENCH SEAT CUSHIONS FOR $3,000.

SO YEAH.

SO Y'ALL APPROVED THOSE, BUT WE APPROVED THOSE.

WE YOU DID, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE 'EM OFF IF NECESSARY.

OH, I SEE, I SEE WHAT THE, THE DEAL IS THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, HOW'D YOU TALK BECKY INTO THAT REMOVED? HOW DID I TALK? WHO, HOW'D YOU TALK BECKY INTO THAT? UM, WE'RE TEAM PLAYERS.

SO, UM, YES, ELECTIONS HAS, UM, WITHDRAWN THE THREE CHAIRS FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS, AS YOU MENTIONED, BUILDING GROUNDS TO PICKUPS, UM, THAT WERE 50,040 6,000 A PIECE.

UM, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS WITHDRAWN A MOTORIZED SCREEN FOR $500.

UH, C I D THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY'VE WITHDRAWN ONE VEHICLE IN THE AMOUNT OF 48,000.

AND THEN IN PATROL THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN 24 CRADLE POINTS FOR A TOTAL OF 50, ALMOST 58,000 AND CAR MOUNTED RADARS, UM, THAT YOU ALL APPROVED FOR $8,400.

THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN THOSE AS WELL AND THINK THAT THEY CAN BUY THEM IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

SO THAT'S ALL NOT, UH, NON-IT RELATED EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.

AND THEN, UM, IN THE IT RELATED EXPENSES, UM, JAMES HAS WITHDRAWN $70,000 FOR THE 40 CAMERA SECURITY SYSTEM AND HE THINKS THAT THEY, WE CAN HOLD THAT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

SO THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND, NON CAP CAP, NON-IT RELATED, UM, AMOUNT IS $22,367,005.

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AND THEN IF YOU, PART OF THE CAP ON CAP IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT WITH THE JU JUSTICE CENTER MASTER STUDY, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE R F Q AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE IS MEETING TOMORROW AFTERNOON ON THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AMOUNT JUST YET ON WHAT THAT STUDY'S GONNA COST, BUT AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, THEN IF WE DO THE, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO ALSO HAVE AN ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER FOR THE 8 0 1 SANTA FE ADDRESS TO DO ANY RENOVATIONS ON THAT.

UM, I'M GUESSING BETWEEN 50 AND $75,000 FOR THAT AS WELL.

YOU'RE TALKING THE WEATHER, FORMER WEATHER PD? MM-HMM.

? YES, SIR.

YOU THINK IT'S THAT LOW 50 TO 75? I DON'T, UM, IT DEPENDS ON HOW THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S A HARD ONE.

IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET A PROPOSAL FROM A A AND E.

SO, YOU KNOW, AT MINIMUM IF ALL OF THESE EXPENSES ARE MET, I DON'T KNOW, Y'ALL HAD MENTIONED NOT DOING THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX EXPANSION THAT YOU THINK THAT THAT CAN HOLD OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR? THAT WOULD BE A MILLION DOLLARS PROBABLY.

WELL, IT'LL HAVE TO HOLD OFF.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE AROUND FIF 5.6 MILLION, 5.7 MILLION.

THAT WHAT? OKAY.

ON THAT.

OH, ALSO FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

BRIANNA'S GOT AN UPDATE ON WE CAN, BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD ON JUST, JUST ON THE ANNEX AND THE, OH, UM, JUST WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATE ON THE STUDY? UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IT'S, IT'S AN EXTENSIVE STUDY.

IT'LL TAKE 'EM ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO DO THE STUDY.

WELL, WELL, ON THE JUSTICE CENTER DOES IT DETERMINES THE HOW WHAT OFFICES GO THERE, WHERE TO LOCATE IT? THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, PD? NO, THIS IS NO, NO, THIS IS FOR ALL THE COURT SYSTEMS. WELL, AND AND TO, TO YOU, YOU MAKE, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, JUST SO WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT WE'VE EXCEEDED THE FUNCTIONALITY AND THE CAPACITY OF OUR COURT SYSTEMS TO WHERE WE HAVE TWO DISTRICT COURTS, UH, TWO COUNTY COURT OF LAWS, AND THEN FOUR JPS, UH, THE TWO DISTRICT COURTS.

UH, WE, WE ARE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, WE'LL GET ANOTHER, UH, AND THAT'S A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY THAT WE'LL GET A THIRD DISTRICT COURT.

WE HAVE NOWHERE TO GO WITH 'EM AND, UM, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GET SOLVED.

BUT ALSO, UH, THE FACT THAT WE'VE EXCEEDED NOT ONLY THE FUNCTIONALITY, BUT UH, WE, WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY ON, ON MAINTENANCE AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A SINKING FUND, BUT WE, WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE GROWTH OF THE CO OF THE COUNTY AS WE KNOW.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT A COUPLE THINGS HERE FROM A STANDPOINT OF MEETING THE JUDICIAL SIDE AND THEN THE, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL, OF THE COUNTY.

AND THEN ALSO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE OF A CONSOLIDATION OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF OUR, OUR FACILITIES AS WELL.

SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A PLAN.

UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A BOND TO GET APPROVED TO BUILD SUCH BUILDING.

UH, SO YOU WILL HAVE A SAY IN THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN ANYTIME QUICK.

BUT WE DO NEED A STUDY IN UNDERSTANDING WHERE, NUMBER ONE, IT'S GONNA GO TO WHAT IS GONNA BE THE NEED ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THIS COUNTY'S GONNA REQUIRE.

AND AGAIN, UH, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE, IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO PUT A, A DEMAND ON OUR, OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, UH, THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE ARE THE, WHAT IS THE COUNTY IS THE MAIN PRIORITY.

WHAT WE DO IS THE, THE JUDICIAL SIDE, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND TRYING CASES IN, IN ALSO HOUSING THOSE WITH THE SO'S OFFICE AS WELL IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COURT SYSTEM.

SO, UH, WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT AND IT, IT'S TIME NOW TO LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE A PLAN FOR IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

I I THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

IT JUST ROLLED RIGHT INTO THE POLICE STATION AND I THOUGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND ON A STUDY TO DO A 15 TO 75,000.

NO, THE, THE 50 TO 75,000 FOR, IT'S FOR SPECIFIC TO THAT BUILDING.

SO IN, UM, NO, LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I WAS SOMETHING I WAS GONNA COVER.

UM, SPRINGTOWN ANNEX PERHAPS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PLAN THAT AT SOME POINT.

UM, THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX, UH, IS A, IS A, A SERIOUS NEED.

UH, IF WE DEFER THAT DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE JUST,

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UM, IF WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET NOW, THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GONNA BE A MILLION DOLLARS.

BUT AGAIN, OUR BACK'S AGAINST THE WALL WITH, WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH, UM, THE OPTIONS OF, AND WE, WE ALL KNOW IT'S EITHER GONNA COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE THE RATE, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEED THAT WE HAVE IN A, IN A AREA THAT'S GROWING DRAMATICALLY AND THAT, SO THAT COURT SYSTEM IS GONNA REQUIRE AND WHICH NOW THEY, THEY SIT OUTSIDE AND, AND, UH, SO WE'VE EXCEEDED THE CAPACITY OF THAT AREA PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING, IF WE DO NOT DO THAT, WE DO TAKE THAT OUT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S PUT BACK IN AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AT A, AT A LATER DATE.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT AND NOT JUST FORGET ABOUT IT.

I DID WANNA BRING IT TO YOUR, YOU ALL'S ATTENTION THAT, UM, THE 48 BED STANDALONE JAIL STRUCTURE, UM, HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FOR THE CURRENT TIME PERIOD AND THE SHERIFF HAS ALLOCATED, UM, $175,000 FROM SEIZURE.

IT'S PART OF THE GRANT.

NO, FOR THE GEL EXPANSION.

THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE FOR THE, UH, THE EXPANSION WAS $575,000.

UH, WE TALKED TO THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECT WHO DESIGNED IT, UM, ABLE TO BRING THAT COST DOWN.

THINK ABOUT 350, 300 50,000.

THE SHERIFF IS, UM, WILLING TO FUND $50,000 OF THAT EXPANSION OUT OF CON UH, COMMISSARY COUNT TO, TO FURTHER REDUCE THE COST OF THE COUNTY.

SO INSTEAD OF THE 400,000, IT WOULD BE THREE 50 FOR THAT THREE 50 OR 300 MARK.

LET GIMME JUST A MINUTE.

NO, NO, NO WORRIES.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 14 BED EXPANSION, KIM, I'M SORRY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 14 BED EXPANSION, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

OKAY, SO INSTEAD OF 5 75, WE'RE EITHER THREE 50 OR 300.

THE, UH, THE, THE NEW ESTIMATE IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME, SOME UPDATED ARCHITECTURAL WORK DONE ON IT, BUT THE NEW ESTIMATE'S AROUND $400,000, THE COST OF THE EXPANSION, THAT'S IF THE COUNTY DOES A LOT OF THE WORK.

UM, BUT IT ALSO COULD DROP DOWN, BUT THE SHERIFF HAS AGREED TO SPEND $50,000 OUTTA COMMISSARY.

YEAH, OKAY.

TO DROP FURTHER DROP IT.

SO WE MARKED THAT TO THREE 50.

INSTEAD OF 400 ON OUR SHEETS IS THE REASON I WAS ASKING.

AND THEN I'LL LET, UH, BRIANNA TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

UM, AND SO DURING THAT PROCESS, WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO, TO TWO VENDORS.

AS I'VE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, UM, MY OFFICE AS WELL AS THE PURCHASING TREASURER, HR, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, EVALUATING DIFFERENT ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS. UM, AS WE HAD MENTIONED LAST YEAR, OUR CURRENT VENDOR HAD COME TO US AND LET US KNOW THAT OUR, UM, SOFTWARE WOULD NO LONGER BE MAINTAINED AND HAD GIVEN US A SUNSET DATE.

UM, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT POINT, THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THEY'VE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, THAT ENDING DATE OFF THE TABLE.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO, IF YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE PRODUCT OR REALLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THERE.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO EXPAND IT.

UM, WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT VENDOR OF, UM, THEY, THEY HAD BEEN ACQUIRED AND SO WE LOOKED AT THEIR NEW, UM, CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM AND DID NOT FEEL THAT THAT WOULD MEET THE NEEDS OF PARKER COUNTY.

ONE, UM, ESSENTIAL THING IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY, UM, FOR PAYROLL ACCOUNTING, WHICH THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, UM, ANY OF US WOULD RECOMMEND OR THOUGHT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE.

AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING ELSEWHERE.

UM, WHEN WE BROUGHT IT TO THE COURT LAST YEAR AND YOU GUYS HAD APPROVED THE 400,000, WE REALLY FELT LIKE THAT WAS THE VENDOR WE WERE GONNA GO GO TO, BUT WE ALSO FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REALLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

THIS IS A HUGE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AS WELL AS A, A TIME COMMITMENT.

IT'S AN 18 MONTH TO TWO YEAR PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT AND GROW WITH AND LAST FOR, YOU KNOW, YEARS TO COME.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TURN AROUND AND BE DOING AGAIN.

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UM, WE HAD DEMONSTRATIONS, UM, WE HAD LOTS OF CALLS AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ALSO HAD, UM, CUSTOMER REFERENCES.

AND DURING THAT CUSTOMER REFERENCE PHASE OF BOTH OF THESE, UM, ONE OF WHICH, AND WE THANK THEM, THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD ACTUALLY USES, UM, THE TYLER MUNI PRODUCT, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO COURT.

BUT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, WERE KIND ENOUGH TO LET US GO ON SITE AND LOOK AT THE SYSTEM, ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING.

UM, AND AGAIN, THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE, AS WE HAD MENTIONED, WE HOPED TO HAVE A DECISION FOR YOU TO RECOMMEND TO THE COURT AT THE END OF AUGUST.

AND WE MET LAST WEEK AND WE MADE, UM, THE DECISION TO RECOMMEND THE TYLER MUNIS, UH, ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE TO THE COURT.

UM, IT'S A SOFTWARE THAT IS USED BY A LOT OF OTHER TEXAS COUNTIES.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

UM, AND THAT WAS REALLY A DOWNFALL TOO, OF THE OTHER, OF THE OTHER PRODUCT JUST BECAUSE, UM, THERE WERE ABOUT THREE COUNTIES THAT PREVIOUSLY USED THEM, TWO OF WHICH WERE IMPLEMENTING TO A NEW SYSTEM.

AND WHEN WE HAD THE REFERENCE CALL WITH THE OTHER ONE, WE, I THINK IT LEFT US WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO FEEL CONFIDENT GOING INTO AND WE FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE.

SO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE OF WHO THE VENDOR IS THERE, THERE IS A PRICE DIFFERENTIAL.

UM, WE DID GO BACK TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO GIVE US THE BEST AND FINAL.

UM, AND SO THEY TOOK, I BELIEVE IT WAS 20% OFF THE ANNUAL RECURRING MAINTENANCE FEE, UM, BRINGING THAT FEE TO 101,738.

UM, AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? 101,738.

UM, AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS, WHAT THEY ARE, UM, QUOTING TO IS, IS 563,793.

UM, I ASKED THEM, I HAD ANOTHER CALL, WE HAD GONE OVER THE QUOTE PREVIOUSLY, BUT I HAD ANOTHER CALL WITH THEM TO GO OVER IT AND, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SAY, HERE'S HOW MUCH SOMETHING'S GONNA COST AND HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

AND SO I ASKED, YOU KNOW, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE WAY THEY BUILD THE IMPLEMENTATION IS BASED ON HOURS, UM, ON THE DIFFERENT MODULES AND DIFFERENT PIECES THAT YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING? UM, AND SO I ASKED, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER? YOU KNOW, UM, AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO GIVE YOU A QUOTE TO WIN THE BUSINESS AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK FOR MORE.

UM, AND THEY FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR COUNTIES OUR SIZE AND IMPLEMENTATION, THAT IT WAS A CONSERVATIVE, UM, QUOTE.

AND SO IT IS BUILDS BY THE HOUR, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT.

AND SO, UM, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT IN LESS HOURS, BUT AGAIN, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY EVEN BUILD IN SOME EXTRA HOURS BECAUSE EVEN POST-IMPLEMENTATION, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE MAY NEED.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE BILLED AS, YOU KNOW, AS SERVICES ARE PERFORMED AND AS THE IMPLEMENTATION IS GOING.

SO, UM, WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COST, UH, THE TOTAL, UM, OVER WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE IS 265,531.

AND I HAD ASKED THEM FOR AN UPDATED QUOTE, SO MY, I'D HAVE TO ADD THIS NUMBER UP, BUT, UM, SO REALLY, I GUESS THAT'S 4 65, 5 31, I'M SORRY, 6 65, 5 31 LESS.

THE 400 ALREADY LESS THE 400.

THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

UM, AND IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE APPROVING THINGS, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT, WHAT ALL IS COMING ALONG WITH IT.

UM, I HAD MY BUDGET MEETING THIS MORNING AND I HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD BE PRESENTING THIS TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND IF, IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, THAT I WOULD BE ASKING, UM, FOR A PART-TIME PERSON, THEY DID APPROVE THAT.

IN THE EVENT THAT THIS IS, UM, APPROVED, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK.

UM, NOT JUST IN MY DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL THE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED.

AND SO, UM, WHAT THIS PART-TIME PERSON WOULD BE FULFILLING IS FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO BACKFILL, UM, BASICALLY WORK IN MY OFFICE SO THAT WAY I CAN, UM, DEPLOY SOMEONE IN MY OFFICE TO HELP WITH THIS PROJECT.

DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE COST OF THE PART-TIME POSITION? UH, YES.

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, HOLD ON.

IS THERE USABLE, SIR? UH, LAST TIME.

WELL, WILL YOU, I I CAN PULL IT OUT.

I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.

SO IT, THE PART-TIME SALARY IS 34,000 PLUS THE BENEFITS, UM, WHAT I HAVE HERE IS 1,133.

IF WE LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH I KNOW IS A WHOLE LOT LESS THAN THAT.

UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD SOME INSURANCE CHANGES IN MY DEPARTMENT.

UM, BUT I'M LOOKING, OH, HERE IT'S, BUT IF WE GROSS UP WHAT THAT IS, IT IS, UH, 41,203.

UM, AND THEN I WOULD BE ASKING FOR A DESK FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL AS WELL AS A COMPUTER AND TWO MONITORS, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 4,372.

SO SOMEWHERE AROUND 46,000.

UM, AND WHILE I'M UP HERE, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE JUST ON, UM, FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET, THERE WERE A COUPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD, UM, THAT HAD WORKED WITH ON SOME OF THEIR OPERATING COSTS, UM, IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

UM, THERE WERE NEEDING TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TELE TELEPHONE AND UTILITY LINES JUST BASED ON ACTUALS THIS YEAR.

UM, SO THAT WAS AN INCREASE OF 7,800.

UM, BUT THEN WE ALSO REDUCED, UM, THE CONTRACT SERVICES BY 5,000 FOR JOHNSON CONTROLS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALL BUDGETED IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP.

SO THAT NET INCREASE WAS 2,800.

UM, WE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, AS WE HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, UM, LOOKING AT HOW THE, UH, LASALLE CONTRACT WAS BUDGETED AND THE OCCUPANCY LEVELS THERE.

AND SO, UM, THE SHERIFF AS WELL AS, UM, MARK GARETT WORK TO SEE, OKAY, WHAT WOULD BE, UM, I GUESS A, A BETTER ESTIMATE FOR THAT.

AND SO, UM, BASED ON THAT UPDATE, IT DROPS THE CONTRACT SERVICES FOR THE LASALLE CONTRACT BY 565,680.

UM, AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT, WE FELT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH FUNDS TO COVER THAT CONTRACT AND THE RELATED COSTS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IF WE GO TO THIS SOFTWARE, WE REDUCE OUR LASALLE COSTS BY NO, THIS WAS, SORRY.

I, I WAS JUST, I KINDA MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

I KIND OF WENT FROM ACCOUNTING SYSTEM TO SOME OTHER UPDATES ON OPERATING COSTS.

AND SO WHAT THE REASON FOR THE DECREASE IS BASED ON THE METHODOLOGY OF WHAT OCCUPANCY, OCCUPANCY LEVEL THAT CONTRACT IS, UM, BUDGETED AT.

GOTCHA.

SO BACK ON THE SOFTWARE FOR THE AUDITOR.

UM, WHAT'S THE ONGOING COST YEAR TO YEAR OF THIS SOFTWARE VERSUS THE CURRENT SOFTWARE? IS THERE A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL? IT IS, YES.

UM, AND SO WE KNEW NO MATTER WHAT WE WENT TO, IT WAS GONNA BE A LARGE, UM, SURE.

INCREASE.

AND SO, UM, JUST WE PAY ABOUT 30,000 FOR THE MODULES WE HAVE, AND THEN WE ARE BILLED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE CERTAIN, UM, LEVELS OF CUSTOMER SUPPORT.

BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 40,000 A YEAR FOR OUR CURRENT.

FOR THE CURRENT FOR CURRENT.

AND THEN WHAT IS THE YEARLY FOR THE 101,000? THAT'S THE 101.

THAT'S THE HUNDRED ONE.

SO THAT'S THE ANNUAL.

SO THE REST OF THAT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE TRAINING, CORRECT.

KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF AUDITING, COUNTY AUDITING SOFTWARE, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROGRAM FOR YOUR STAFF AND FOR THE TAXPAYER AND FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE VERSUS THE CURRENT? WELL, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S USED BY EVERY COUNTY DEPARTMENT.

THAT ONE TIME, YEAH, THAT ONE TIME COST.

UM, AND SO I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND SIGN A CONTRACT WITH THEM, THEN THEY, THAT COST, THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE WOULD REMAIN FLAT FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT.

AND IT IS, IT'S, I MEAN, WE FELT THAT WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A BIG INCREASE NO MATTER WHAT WE GO TO.

'CAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MOST THAT ARE NOW GOING TO THE CLOUD, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE BASED OFF OF USERS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT, UM, LEGACY SYSTEM AS THEY CALL IT, IS SERVER BASED.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO FROM THIS STANDPOINT, WHEN IT'S IN THE CLOUD, IT'S, IT'S THE VENDOR THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THAT VERSUS, VERSUS AN ONSITE, UM, SERVER THAT IT WOULD BE WORKING ON.

AND, UM, AND IF YOU GUYS WANT, YOU KNOW, A MORE IN DEPTH OF WHAT, UM, THE SYSTEM HAS TO OFFER AND THE CAPABILITIES, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, I GUESS, FROM LIKE A 20,000 FOOT LEVEL, SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T

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UM, SO THIS WOULD REPLACE S T W, SO IT IS PAYROLL.

I MEAN, OF COURSE IT'S OUR FINANCIALS, IT'S OUR BUDGET, UM, EVEN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SOME OF THE CAPABILITIES OF PROJECTS AND TRACKING, YOU KNOW, BONDS USAGE AND CALCULATING RETAINAGE AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE HUGE THING IS WHEN WE LOOK ON THE PAYROLL HR SIDE, UM, IT CURRENTLY, AND BECKY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, IT, IT'S A MANUAL PROCESS, RIGHT? YOU'RE TURNING IN A FORM.

AND SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, BE ONLINE WHERE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ELECT THEIR, UM, SELECTIONS FOR INSURANCE.

AND THEN ONE GREAT THING IS ONCE THAT IS APPROVED THROUGH THAT SYSTEM, IT ACTUALLY FEEDS STRAIGHT INTO THE HR FILES THAT GOES INTO PAYROLL.

SO YOU'RE NOT THEN MANUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, INPUTTING THESE THINGS.

SO IT, IT AUTOMATES A LOT OF THINGS, WHICH AGAIN, EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, OF COURSE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR REVIEW PROCESS, BUT ANY TIME THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE A MANUAL ELEMENT OUT OF IT, I MEAN, ONE, IT INCREASES ACCURACY AND TWO, YOUR EFFICIENCY.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW FROM EVEN JUST KIND OF TRANSPARENCY OR QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW I GET, UM, IN MY OFFICE AND PURCHASING IN HR, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE FOR THE USERS OF THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE THINGS AND IS EASY OF, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP A PROFILE AND YOU LOG IN AND YOU SEE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT.

UM, I KNOW BECKY GETS QUESTIONS A LOT OF, IF I CHANGE MY, YOU KNOW, IF I'M CHANGING MY INSURANCE OR IF I'M CHANGING MY WITHHOLDINGS, WHAT IS MY PAYCHECK GONNA LOOK LIKE? IT ACTUALLY HAS A PAYCHECK SIMULATOR, WHICH IS REALLY NEAT THAT SOMEONE CAN GO IN AND, YOU KNOW, DO IT ALL THEMSELVES OR, UM, I THINK IT MADE IT WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY LOG IN AND KIND OF STEP BY STEP DO THAT.

UM, ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY NEAT ON THE, THE PO SIDE, IT KIND OF HAD A PO 1 0 1 AND IT'S LIKE PROMPTS ON THE SCREEN TO WALK YOU THROUGH, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, SO IF, IF DO THAT, IF I CAN KIND OF BUNDLE ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF EFFICIENCIES THAT CAN BE GAINED IN THE SYSTEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY GUESS, EVEN JUST A BALLPARK GUESS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS COUNTY WORK HOURS SAVED THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER ISSUES? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA SAVE? I MEAN, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'LL SEE IT LATER.

I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT OF INVESTMENT INTO IT, OF COURSE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST FROM, NOT GONNA SAY THAT'S GONNA BE A SMALL TASK ON THE IMPLEMENTATION AND EVERYTHING, BUT IN THE END, I THINK YES, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOURS SAVED AND JUST, I, I THINK A BIG PIECE OF IT.

I KNOW I, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF 'CAUSE EVERY USER OF IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? UM, BUT FOR MYSELF, SOMETIMES PUTTING A REPORT TOGETHER, PUTTING HISTORY TOGETHER TAKES A LONG TIME.

AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW THAT I CAN JUST SET THESE UP AND JUST RUN A REPORT, YOU KNOW, AND GET IT BACK, RIGHT? YEAH.

FOR, BECAUSE FRANKLY, UM, A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, 6 65 ABSOLUTELY.

LOT OF MONEY.

UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES AND THAT THIS HAS INTEROPERABILITY BETWEEN ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND SYSTEMS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INCREMENTALLY SAVES MINUTES AND HOURS, THEN THAT 6 65, I THINK PUT IN THAT CONTEXT, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THOSE HOURS SAVED SO THAT WE COULD SEE, HEY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA SAVE US, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND COUNTY HOURS OVERALL A YEAR? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE ANY NUMBER WE GIVE YOU WOULD JUST BE A KIND OF THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE.

I AM NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, THEY KNOW THEY HAD ANY STUDIES EASILY QUANTIFY.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING IN THIS IS VERY, I WOULD SAY, PROCESS DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, FROM AN APPROVAL STANDPOINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH YOUR KIND OF BUSINESS WORKFLOW, EVERYTHING IS A WORKFLOW.

SO BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S APPROVING OR, YOU KNOW, REQUESTING A REQUISITION AND SAY IT'S IT RELATED.

YOU CAN HAVE IT WHERE IT HAS TO BE ROUTED TO IT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN GO TO PURCHASING TO BE APPROVED OR THEY GET A NOTIFICATION.

UM, SAME THING FOR, FOR GRANT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR OFFICE, IF IT'S A GRANT RELATED GL ACCOUNTS THAT WE GET NOTIFICATION SO WE CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, OH, NOPE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T ALLOWABLE, OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST FROM THAT COMMUNICATION, IT'S JUST BUILT INTO THE WORKFLOW ON THINGS.

UM, AND THEN EVEN FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR, SOME OF OUR BIG PAIN POINTS RIGHT NOW ARE WITH, UM, FIXED ASSETS, UM, IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

AND SO JUST SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE LOOK

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TO BE VERY, VERY GOOD.

JUST EVEN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE GET TO AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

JUST, I KEEP MANUAL SPREADSHEETS OF CALCULATING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE BOND OR ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS WE HAVE TO TRACK C I P YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE RETAINAGE.

YOU HAVE ALL THESE MANUAL JOURNAL ENTRIES, AND AGAIN, IT WOULD TAKE A LOT TO GET THAT PORTION, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED.

BUT ONCE IT'S IMPLEMENTED, IT, IT TRACKS ALL THOSE COSTS.

IT CALCULATES YOUR RETAINAGE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO MANUALLY.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S GONNA, IT WOULD BE SOME TIME BEFORE WE SEE THOSE, UM, EFFICIENCIES.

I MEAN, BRIANNA, AGAIN, JUST I HAVE TO ASK THIS AND, AND AGAIN, JUST, UH, AS WE DO ALL DEPARTMENTS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF GI IF GIVEN THE CHANCE, AND IF WE LOOKED AT PUSHING THIS AND, AND MAYBE PUTTING THIS INTO ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR, AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT, RIGHT, UM, WOULD THAT ENABLE US TO ABLE TO WORK WITH THE VENDOR OR TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THIS TO, 'CAUSE THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT? I MEAN, AND, AND, AND WE, UH, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, WHAT WE HAVE NOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT BROKEN, BUT IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, AND WE ASK EVERYONE THIS? I, BUT I HAVE TO ASK, RIGHT? I MEAN, IS THIS, CAN WE FUNCTION? ABSOLUTELY.

I'M JUST RIGHT GOING IT OUT.

IS, IS THE EFFICIENCIES OF THIS, CAN IT BE PUSHED INTO ANOTHER YEAR THAT WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH A VENDOR, MAYBE FIND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE CHEAPER ROUTE, OR, OR EVEN WORK THEM DOWN IN PRICE AND MAYBE, UM, I'M, I'M JUST ASKING, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, ANYTHING CAN BE POSTPONED, BUT IS IT A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT? DO I THINK THAT SURE.

IF I BRING THIS BACK, ARE THOSE FIGURES GONNA INCREASE? YEAH, I, I THINK THAT THEY, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT THESE FIGURES WOULD GO UP.

AND AGAIN, THE OTHER VENDOR THAT WE LOOKED AT, THEY WERE A LOT CHEAPER, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS BETTER.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT, AGAIN, AN ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME ACCOUNTING SYSTEM AND THEY'VE GROWN WITH IT FOR 30 YEARS.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I HOPE IN MY TIME THAT I'M HERE, AND I HOPE I'M HERE A LONG TIME THAT I, I'M NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL AGAIN.

WELL, AND ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, AND THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHEAP, BUT WE'RE REALLY IN THE DARK AGES AND A LOT OF THINGS, AND IT EXPOSED THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT ON, UM, THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE THERE TODAY AND IN DOING THE WORK THAT WE DID, AND WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

UH, THANK YOU, JAMES.

AND, UH, BUT THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, WE'VE BEEN IN THE DARK AGES AND SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WE'VE HAD AND SOME OF THE SWITCHES AND, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WAS AGED.

THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

AND OUR FINANCIAL, UH, SYSTEM, UM, OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WHEN'S THE LAST TIME IT WAS UPGRADED? WELL, IT, IT WAS UPGRADED IN 2013.

SO IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO.

AGAIN, THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HOPED TO BE DOING IN 10 YEARS.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, EVERYONE I THINK WAS VERY HAPPY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SOFTWARE THEY WERE ACQUIRED, THERE WERE SOME GROWING PAINS, SOME, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT OVER AND OVER OF THE COUNTY GROWING, RIGHT? SO WE, WE'VE GROWN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE VOLUME OF THINGS, EMPLOYEES, EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO I THINK COMES WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA OUTGROW THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES THE, THE EFFICIENCIES.

AND AGAIN, I MEAN, EVEN JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, SO LIKE OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM, UM, OUR QUARTERLY PAYMENT TO THEM IS $78,000.

I MEAN, THAT GIVES YOU PERSPECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM BEING THE BACKBONE OF YOUR, OF YOUR FINANCES, IT'S HOW RIGHT.

OUR PEOPLE GET PAID AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S AN INTEGRAL PART OF IT.

IT'S, IT'S THE BUDGET, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IT, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, SO AGAIN, CAN IT BE PUT OFF? YEAH.

ANY, I MEAN, IT CAN, ANYTHING COULD BE PUT OFF WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT, OR IF WE WANNA PAY MORE.

I MEAN, I THINK THESE FIGURES WOULD GO UP.

HAVE THOSE VULNERABILITIES.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JAMES.

JAMES, AND YOU'RE BACK THERE.

I WAS GONNA HAVE TO COME UP TOO.

I KIND OF WANTED TO ADD, UH, TO PUTTING IT OFF IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY DO THEIR TYPE SHEETS AND S T W NOTICE WE HAVE TO USE INTERNET EXPLORER, AND I HAVE TO KEEP MAKING THAT WORK EVERY TIME.

UH, MICROSOFT DOESN'T UPDATE, MAKES IT HARDER BECAUSE I E'S BEEN END OF LIFE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW, UH, WHICH IS A HUGE VULNERABILITY, UH, TO THIS COUNTY.

IS THIS SYSTEM A MORE SECURE SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW? YES, SIR.

BY FAR, I MEAN, THE LAST UPGRADE.

AND SO WHENEVER MICROSOFT PUTS OUT AN UPDATE TO CANCEL IT, WE HAVE TO GO IN AND MAKE A BANDAID TO KEEP MOST OF THE FEATURES WORKING, UH, WHICH IS USING A END OF LIFE PRODUCT FOR US TO DO OUR TIME SHEETS AND STUFF.

SO JUST, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOFTWARE THAT WELL, YEAH.

BUT GOING FORWARD, THE NEW SOFTWARE, IT DOESN'T

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JUST THE S T W.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THERE'S SOME EXPOSURE HERE WITH THE SOFTWARE USING YES, YES.

AND EXCESSIVE WORK AND TRYING TO PUT BANDAIDS ON 'EM.

KEEP THING GOING EVERY TIME WE, UH, PATCH, UH, THE, THE COUNTY GOING FORWARD.

DESKTOPS, UH, MOST OF THE FEATURES REQUIRE INTERNET EXPLORER.

WE'VE GOT A FEW FEATURES, WORK BASIC TIME SHEETS WITH MICROSOFT EDGE.

UH, BUT MAJORITY OF IT HAS TO USE INTERNET EXPLORER FOR IT TO FUNCTION.

BECKY, DO YOU WANNA, AND SO ONE ADDITIONAL, OH, SORRY.

YEAH, SO IT'S OKAY.

I JUST KIND OF WANNA STATE, LIKE, AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH PAYROLL, UM, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT THERE'S SOME DAYS, YOU KNOW, PAYROLL'S PROCESSED AND WE'RE RIGHT THERE TO THE END, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT JUST SHUTS DOWN.

IT JUST FREEZES.

SO NOW WE'RE IN A STANDPOINT OF WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY EVERYONE BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

AND THAT'S WHERE JAMES JUMPS IN.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, S T W OBVIOUSLY TO JUMP IN, IN AN EMERGENCY TO GET IT FIXED.

AND SO FAR THAT'S BEEN FINE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.

IT JUST DELAYS, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THE BUTTON ON THE FINAL, BUT IT JUST SEES, IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE, AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA COME BACK UP.

UM, THE PAYROLL SYSTEM FOR THE OTHER, THE CHEAPER VENDOR THAT BRIANNA TALKS ABOUT, IT WAS FINE.

IT WAS BASICALLY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ANY GREAT IMPROVEMENT UP.

NOT REALLY ANY UPGRADES TO IT.

JUST THE PAYROLL SYSTEM ALONE IS GONNA GIVE OFFICES ABILITIES TO, YOU KNOW, SWIPE A BADGE WHEN YOU WALK IN YOUR OFFICE AND THAT CLOCKS YOU IN, OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN CLOCK IN ON A COMPUTER.

SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION JUST FEEDS DIRECTLY INTO THE PAYROLL SYSTEM.

SO A LOT OF THE PAPER, A LOT OF THE PAPER THAT ESPECIALLY THE PRECINCTS ARE DOING, YOU WOULD SEE THOSE KIND OF THINGS GO AWAY.

AND THEN IT'S GONNA ROUTE AN APPROVAL PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH PAYROLL, EVERY TIME THERE'S A NEW HIRE OR RAISES AND PERSONAL CHANGE FORMS. THESE ARE EXTREMELY MANUAL PROCESSES FOR OUR OFFICE.

IT'S GONNA AUTOMATE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND FEED DIRECTLY INTO PAYROLL AND ONLINE OPEN ENROLLMENT.

I MEAN, I COULD ALMOST CRY TO THINK ABOUT THAT COMING SOMEDAY, BUT JUST FOR THE EMPLOYEES ALONE, THE EASY ACCESS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO AN ONLINE ENROLLMENT THAT'LL FEED IN FOR US THEN TO REVIEW THAT WAY.

UM, AND WHEN WE DO GET THOSE CALLS FROM EMPLOYEES OF, HEY, WHY DID YOU SIGN ME UP FOR THIS DENTAL WHEN I CHOSE THAT DENTAL? THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO SEE THEIR SELECTIONS, YOU KNOW, THEMSELVES, WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL OR CHECK A PAPER.

WHAT DOES IT, WHAT DOES IT COST AGAIN OF THIS, UH, 6 65? LET'S SEE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO REFER THAT AS ROLLED FROM LAST YEAR, HUNDRED THOUSAND WAS APPROPRIATED BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THE 400? YES.

THAT WAS A ROLLOVER FROM LAST YEAR, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED DURING LAST YEAR.

SO, UM, SO THE TOTAL 6 65, 5 31, UM, ONE ADDITIONAL, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL FEATURES, UM, I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS LOOKING AT A SOFTWARE FOR SCHEDULING.

UM, AND THIS ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE SCHEDULING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CENTERED AROUND SHERIFF'S OFFICES.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A DEMONSTRATION FOR THEM NEXT WEEK.

SO I KNOW THAT THEY HAD THAT IN THIS, UM, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET REQUEST AND THEIR CONTRACT SERVICES THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR 7,500.

SO IF IT'S A ROLLOVER FROM LAST YEAR, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON? NO, WE'RE ADDING, IT'S AN INCREASE, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL, SO 400,000 WAS APPROPRIATE.

AND THAT WAS BASED OFF OF THE QUOTE OF THE OTHER VENDOR THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GO TO.

BUT AGAIN, I'M GLAD WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE, REALLY PUT IN THE TIME AND ENERGY INTO EVERYTHING TO BRING, SO JUST, JUST TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO DATE, HOW LONG IS IT YOU'VE BEEN RESEARCHING AND TAKING IT'S INFORMATION FROM VENDORS AND RESEARCHING WHO ELSE IS USING IT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? YEAR AND A HALF.

BECAUSE WE HAD SOMETHING TODAY, DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GO BACK AND TAKE IT AWAY LATER.

YEAR AND A HALF FROM, YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAME UP WITH TODAY.

NO, NO.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT CLEARLY MEETS THE NEED OF, THAT ALSO WILL HELP OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

BUT, UH, GIVEN THE WORKLOAD AND WHAT IT'S PUTTING A STRAIN ON OUR IT DIRECTOR AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MANY VULNERABILITIES FROM A PAYROLL STANDPOINT THAT YOU MAKE APPOINTMENT WITH, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING WHETHER WE DO IT NOW OR NOT, AND WE GOT A LOT OF DECISIONS TO MAKE HERE.

UH, BUT I, I'M, I'M, I'M, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO KICK DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE DONE DUE DILIGENCE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO UP AND IMPACT US FROM THE INFLATIONARY STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

UH, SO WHETHER WE DO IT NOW OR NOT, UM, I'M, I'M READY TO GET THIS DONE.

I MEAN, IT'S, STOP MESSING AROUND WITH THIS.

LET'S MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE.

SO ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I POINTED OUT YESTERDAY IS JUST BECAUSE WE VOTED SOMETHING DOWN YESTERDAY DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T COME BACK SURE.

AND ADD IT LATER.

JUST

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I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, NEW ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE AND, UH, THE, UH, IN A SEPARATE WELL, THAT, THAT WE APPROVED THE, UH, NEW, NEW SOFTWARE AT A, UH, NET COST.

THIS BUDGET YEAR 2 65, 531, TOTAL COST OF 6 65, 5 31.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.

HOLD ON.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

UM, COMMISSIONER.

HELL, YOU'VE MADE THE SECOND, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION TODAY.

SECOND COMMISSIONER, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT? HOLD JACOB.

HOLD ON.

AND GEORGE, ARE YOU OTHER FOUR? DID YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING? WELL, THE COMPUTER WASN'T WORKING PROPERLY, BUT NOW SHE'S OKAY.

SORRY, JACOB.

JACOB, WE GOT IT GOING NOW.

YOU SECOND.

ANY PLEASE? MAY MR. HALE SECOND.

WAS STILL IN YESTERDAY.

SO WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD SAVE WITH THE, SO IF THE SO USES THIS 7,500 OKAY.

RECURRING CORRECT.

EVERY YEAR OR JUST ONE COMPANY, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S BUILT INTO THE, UH, MAINTENANCE FEE.

, THE 1 0 1, AND I'M 99% SURE.

YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS LIKE SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I JUST WANNA BE REAL SURE THAT 2 65 IS INCLUSIVE OF THE ANNUAL 1 0 1 FEE, CORRECT? YES.

THAT INCLUDES THAT, CORRECT.

JUST MAKING SURE.

THAT'S THE RECURRING PART OF IT, NOT RUSHING YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT'S A BIG DEAL.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND, AND CLEARLY, UH, THROUGH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THE VALUE OF THIS IS.

AND THE CONCERN TO ME IS, UH, WITH THE STRAIN THAT'S PUTTING ON OUR IT DIRECTOR DOWN THERE TRYING TO PUT BAND-AIDS ON THIS THING TO KEEP IT GOING.

AND, UH, THAT'S BEHIND THE SCENES AND WE DON'T EVER SEE THAT.

UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.

I, I SEE SOME THINGS THERE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE.

ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE, UH, UH, THE, UH, PERSONNEL REQUEST AT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND, UH, BECKY, MAKE SURE THAT I'M, MAKE SURE THAT I'M, UH, GETTING THE NUMBER CORRECT HERE.

SO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED CAN, CAN WE CLARIFY? OKAY.

OH, SURE.

IT'S THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IS THAT WHICH ITEM? OH, I HAVE NO IDEA.

WELL, LET ME THERE AN ADDITIONAL, YEAH, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE.

ADAM, I THINK HE JUST WANTS TO CALL THE CORRECT AGENDA ITEM.

SO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

SO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS REQUESTING AND ADDING A ONE C P S PARALEGAL POSITION AT A SALARY OF $60,000 AND ADDING ONE C P S ATTORNEY POSITION AT A SALARY OF 105,000.

IT DOES COME ALONG WITH, UH, TWO NEW MONITORS, $704 TO COMPUTERS.

3000 144 2 MONITOR STANDS, $200 AND TWO CHAIRS OF 300, UM, WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA UPDATE THE WHOLE OFFICE? IT'S ABOUT A 9% INCREASE FOR A TOTAL OF 2 65 7 28.

AND THEN I BELIEVE HE IS APPLYING FOR, RIGHT.

I, I WANTED JOHN TO ADDRESS THAT.

THE, THE, UH, SO WE'RE AT 2 65 WITH THE, THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST.

AND HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN WE PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE? RIGHT? WE WON'T, WE WON'T COVER THE, UH, DESK.

I DON'T THINK IT COVERS ANY OF THE INCIDENTS, RIGHT? IT CAN JUST BE THE NEW EMPLOYEES.

JUST THE EMPLOYEES.

STEPPED OUT YESTERDAY, WE HAD A SITUATION WITH C P SS AND TWO CHILDREN.

SO IT'D BE THE 2 61 3 80 FOR JUST THE NEW EMPLOYEES.

AND SO WE'D APPLY THAT GRANT, GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN IT SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

SO SENATE BILL 22 IS GOING TO GIVE A GRANT, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

SO 2024, IT WILL BE ABLE TO BE APPLIED TO SALARIES RETROACTIVELY.

SO ANY EXPENSES THAT WE INCUR THROUGH THE REST OF THIS FISCAL OR ACTUALLY CALENDAR YEAR, UH, IT CAN BE REPAID BACK INTO THOSE SALARY LINES SO Y'ALL CAN RECOVER THE MONEY.

SO IT SHOULD BE A ZERO NET COST TO THE COUNTY.

WHEN WE APPLY THAT, THAT MONEY TOWARDS THAT RIGHT'S ONE, THE GRANT WILL COVER BENEFITS AS WELL.

THAT'S ONE YEAR.

AND THEN WE STILL HAVE, AFTER THAT, WE STILL HAVE THE EMPLOYEE THAT WE, THEN WE PICK UP THE TAB FOR THAT.

THE HOPE IS THAT THAT GRANT WILL CONTINUE.

UH, OBVIOUSLY IF IT DOESN'T, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THESE EMPLOYEES.

IT'S A C P S ATTORNEY.

UH, WE'RE GROWING IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

I'VE HAD JUDGES REACH OUT TO ME ASKING FOR US TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL ATTORNEY.

WE HAVE TWO CURRENTLY.

AND THAT CASELOAD IS, IS JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

WHEN I

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SO IT'S, IT'S A DAILY OCCURRENCE NOW.

SO DID YOU SAY THAT DOES COVER THE ? IT DOES NOT.

IT DOES NOT.

IT WOULD COVER THE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES TO, MM-HMM.

SO DESK COMPUTERS, PRINTERS, ANY OF THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COST.

I HEAR THAT 2 31 IS THE NUMBER THAT IT WOULD COVER.

AND SO 2 61 380 IS WHAT IT WOULD COVER BECAUSE IT DOES COVER THE BOUN, THE, THEIR BENEFITS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE TALKING 5,000 IT WOULD NOT COVER.

AND THAT'S THE DESK, THE MONITORING STUFF.

WELL, THE GRANTS TO, HE CAN APPLY FOR UP TO 2 75, CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IT COVER ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE COSTS EXCEPT FOR THE NON CAP.

AND WHAT I HEARD WAS A TOTAL OF 2 66, APPROXIMATELY 2 65.

728.

SO WE'RE TALKING ROUGHLY $5,000 FOR DESK MONITORS, ET CETERA, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PICK UP.

JUST MAKE SURE I HAD EXACTLY.

AND IF WE CAN FIND DESK AND SURPLUS, WE'LL TAKE A SURPLUS DESK.

I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME THAT WERE ALRIGHT.

OKAY, JUDGE.

UH, AND JUST 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH SENATE BILL 22, I, I DO WORRY ABOUT WHETHER YOU CAN HIRE THE LEGAL ASSISTANT OUT OF THERE.

SO YOU MAY WANNA LOOK INTO WHETHER YOU CAN KIND OF CROSS QUALIFY THEM AS A VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND, AND IF YOU GIVE THEM SOME LEVEL OF DUTIES, WHICH FRANKLY YOU HAVE VICTIMS ON YOUR CS CASES RIGHT.

WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU FOR SURE COULD DO.

SO JUST A THOUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T FALL INTO THE OF WE THINK WE'RE GETTING AN UNDER SENATE BILL 22, THEN WE'RE NOT.

APPRECIATE I'M MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, THE PERSONNEL REQUEST AT THE NUMBER OF 2 65.

WHAT BECKY? UH, WELL, 2 65 7 28.

THAT INCLUDES THE CAP TWO.

I'M GONNA, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THOSE, UH, PERSONNEL COSTS AND THE CAPITAL, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE REQUESTED AND REQUIRED.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALL AND SGA BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

HELL IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

UH, JEFF, TO THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE, WOULD WE NOT WANT TO PUT CONTINGENT UPON A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID? I I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK YOU PROBABLY CAN QUALIFY THE PERSON HOWEVER YOU WANT.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE VICTIM ROLES AS RIGHT.

AS THE LEGAL SECRETARY.

SO IF YOU PUT THAT AS A LEGAL SECRETARY SLASH VICTIM ASSISTANCE, I THINK YOU'D BE COVERED AND FOR SURE BE ABLE TO GET UNDER AL 22.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

I THINK WE INTO A WHOLE AREA.

AND I THINK, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO APPLY THAT MONEY AND, AND RECOVER SOME OF IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH RIGHT.

THE 3% RAISES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE COULD PULL THAT MONEY OUT AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT SUBSTITUTING MONEY, THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.

OH NOW FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, THE REQUEST THERE FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, HE'S ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY RIGHT.

FOR A SALARY OF 105,000.

AND I'M, I'M LOOKING AT MY SHEET SAYS 1 34 9 75.

RIGHT? IS THAT, WHAT DOES ALL THAT COVER? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL CO THAT WOULD BE THE INCREASE.

SO HE IS ALSO ASKING TO RECLASS AS RECORDS CLERK TO A LEGAL SECRETARY.

SO WE WOULD REDUCE THE MONEY FROM RECORDS CLERK, ADD THAT TO LEGAL SECRETARY.

DID YOU SAY VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR OR NO RECORDS CLERK.

THEY HAVE A CURRENT RECORDS CLERK.

THEY WANNA MAKE THEM A LEGAL SECRETARY.

UM, AND THEN A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE SO THAT THE EMPLOYMENT PART WOULD BE 1 34 975.

AND THEN HE DOES HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, NON CAP FOR 6,490 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 1 41 465.

AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE THE SAME THING, YOU'RE APPLYING FOR THE SAME GRANT.

THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE LEGAL POSITION.

YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? YES, SIR.

I'D BE HAPPY TO.

I I KNOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, UH, ASSISTANT DA UNDER SENATE BILL 22.

UH, AND WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO WITH THE FRINGE BENEFITS AS WELL COMING UNDER SENATE BILL 22.

SO IT SHOULD COVER THE ENTIRE COST SHY OF THE, YOU KNOW, DESK, DESK AND COMPUTER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

JEFF, CAN YOU, WHAT, CAN YOU STAY UP THERE FOR A MOMENT? SURE.

UM, WHAT IS THE GAP BETWEEN THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY YOURSELF? IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, I, THE LOWEST SALARY I THINK WE HAVE FOR ANY, UH, IS 110,000.

UH, MY FIRST ASSISTANT ACTUALLY MAKES A FEW DOLLARS MORE THAN I DO, UM, BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY.

I'M, SAY THAT, SAY THAT AGAIN.

MY FIRST ASSISTANT ACTUALLY MAKES A FEW DOLLARS MORE THAN I DO.

SO THERE'S THAT.

UM, BUT OTHERWISE THE GAP IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 30,000 AT MOST.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE

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EMPLOYEE.

I HAVE, LIKE I SAID, MY FIRST ASSISTANT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN ME.

MY, UH, MOST TENURED OTHER ASSISTANT IS, UH, ABOUT THREE OR 4,000 LESS THAN ME.

UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WITH THE, WITH THE 3% RAISE WOULD PROBABLY ALSO MAKE MORE THAN I DO.

SO THERE, THERE REALLY ISN'T A GAP FOR A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF MY STAFF.

UM, JUDGE, CAN WE, CAN WE TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME AND I'LL, I'LL, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION HERE FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSON.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY WE ARE, WE ARE TAKING 'EM ONE AT A TIME.

CONTINUE.

SO, UM, DON'T GO FAR, JEFF.

UH, MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE, UH, THE PERSONNEL REQUEST THERE AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND GIVE ME THE EXACT NUMBER.

BECKY WILL BE A SALARY OF 105,000 FOR A NEW ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, RECLASSING A RECORDS CLERK TO A LEGAL SECRETARY AT A SALARY OF 54,529.

THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY WOULD COME WITH A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE OF $600, AND THEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN BENEFITS, MAKES THAT TOTAL 1 34 9 75.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE OF 1 34 9 75, UH, FOR PERSONNEL REQUESTS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES.

IS ACTUALLY 68 40.

KIM HAS SOME CHANGES THAT I DIDN'T.

SO THE CAP, NON CAP IS ACTUALLY $6,840.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

HALT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR YOU? VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

PASS FIVE VOTE.

SO IN DOING THAT, THE, THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT EXPENSE IS BEING PAID FOR FROM THE STATE.

AND SO, UH, ALL BUT JUST A, A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NOW, JEFF, IF YOU WOULDN'T, UH, WOULD YOU STILL COME UP TO THE PODIUM? I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, I WANNA BRING, I WANNA COME BACK TO AGAIN, THE, IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME THAT MAKE MORE THAN YOU AND YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE PROSECUTING DA WHO IS A FELONY PROSECUTING DA.

UH, YOU HAD SOME, SOME THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TO OFFER AND, AND TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE WASN'T TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.

AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME A, A CHANCE TO BE HEARD ON THAT AGAIN.

AND I DON'T WANNA BE A DEAD HORSE.

'CAUSE I CERTAINLY RESPECT WHEN A COURT MAKES A DECISION, THEY MAKE A DECISION.

SO I DO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO BRING TO THE TABLE, UM, THAT I, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TOLD Y'ALL ABOUT YESTERDAY, BUT WAS KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE SALARY EQUIVALENCE ISSUE.

SO I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, FIRST JOHN, I'M SORRY, I CAN ON, LET'S JUST TAKE A NUMBER TO THE COURT.

SO, UM, THE COURT CURRENTLY SUPPLEMENTS THE DISTRICT JUDGE'S $18,000 A YEAR, UH, UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 46 0 0 3 B.

SO 0.003 B, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS REQUIRED TO SUPPLEMENT THE DA THE SAME AMOUNT THAT IT DOES THE DISTRICT JUDGES, UM, WHICH WOULD BE $18,000.

SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK THERE, I, I GAVE Y'ALL, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M KIND OF ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WHEN I READ A STATUTE, UH, I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE JUST THE PARTICULAR SUBSECTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I KIND OF LIKE TO HAVE THE WHOLE THING.

SO THAT'S WHY I PAPERCLIP THE, THAT ENTIRE, UH, CHAPTER BEHIND THE LETTER, THE LETTER KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

BUT BASICALLY, UM, IT'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY THING WITH THE COURT.

UM, THE ONLY DISCRETION WOULD COME WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO SUPPLEMENT EITHER THE DISTRICT JUDGES OR THE DA.

IF YOU DO ONE, YOU MUST DO THE OTHER.

UM, SO AT A, A MINIMUM, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FOLLOW THE LAW ON THAT AND SUPPLEMENT ME AT LEAST, UH, THE $18,000 THAT YOU ALREADY SUPPLEMENT THE DISTRICT JUDGES.

I ACTUALLY, UM, HAD I NOT STARTED LOOKING INTO THE SALARY EQUIVALENCE THING, PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE, UH, COME ACROSS THAT.

I ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG THE JUDGES HAD BEEN SUPPLEMENTED LIKE THAT.

SO HOWEVER LONG THAT'S BEEN, THE DA SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT, PAID THAT WHOLE TIME, I THINK WE CAN GET 'EM TO PAY IT BACK, GET 'EM TO, I THINK WE CAN ASK THEM TO PAY THEIRS BACK .

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.

IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN MENTIONED WAS WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO USE SENATE BILL 22 MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT.

I MEAN, YOU CERTAINLY COULD REVISIT THAT WHOLE ISSUE.

UM, I DO THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU THOUGH.

UM, I, SO THAT'S THE, I ANYWHERE THAT'S THE FIRST PART.

UM, THE, UH, THE SECOND PART BACK TO THE, UM, THE SALARY EQUIVALENCE PART THAT WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY,

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UM, WHICH BASICALLY, AGAIN, IS THE STATE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN TO PAY FOR, UM, SALARY INCREASES FOR, UH, ASSISTANT DAS INVESTIGATORS, VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATORS.

UM, AND WE CANNOT DO THAT DIRECTLY.

I DO THINK WE PROBABLY COULD DO THAT INDIRECTLY.

YOU WE'RE NOT SAFE AND OUR FAMILIES ARE NOT SAFE.

, UM, BY ESSENTIALLY IN LIEU OF HAVING THE COUNTY, I I, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED A 3% RAISE FOR EMPLOYEES MM-HMM.

UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE COUNTY DO THAT, WE COULD DO THAT OUT OF SENATE BILL 22 MONEY.

UM, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT IF Y'ALL WERE WILLING TO CONSIDER PUTTING THAT BACK INTO BASICALLY THE SALARY EQUIVALENCE ISSUE.

AND, AND BY MY MATH, WHICH I USED THE CALCULATOR, SO HOPEFULLY IT'S GOOD.

UM, THAT'S $35,887 ACROSS THOSE THREE LINE ITEMS. THE LINE ITEMS FOR INVESTIGATORS, THE, THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR AND ASSISTANT DAS.

SO THAT COMES UP, UP WITH A, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE MONEY.

UH, I THINK BECKY'S NUMBERS WERE $60,071, UH, WOULD BE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULDN'T ALL COME TO ME.

SOME OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER VARIOUS COSTS OF, UH, EMPLOYMENT.

THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT OF THAT WOULD HELP TO BASICALLY MAKE THIS, UH, REVENUE NEUTRAL AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING GOVERNMENTAL MONEY, BECAUSE IT ISN'T MY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

JUST LIKE IT ISN'T YOUR MONEY, IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

UM, BUT THE OTHER WAY I THOUGHT OF THAT, I COULD HELP MAKE THAT REVENUE NEUTRAL FOR YOU.

THE, UH, THE NICE JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE CASE FILING, UH, AND DISCOVERY PORTAL THAT WE'RE ASKING ALL TO FUND FOR $75,000, THAT HELPS OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WILL HELP JUVENILE PROBATION AS WELL IN RECEIVING CASES IN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SENDING THOSE OUT TO, UH, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS.

THAT'S $75,000.

UM, WHAT I COULD DO FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO TRY TO HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THAT COST IS I CAN, I CAN PUT HALF OF THAT UNDER OUR ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT.

AND SO BASICALLY THAT WOULD BE $37,500.

UM, SO IF, IF THAT HELPS Y'ALL COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO FUND THE, THE EQUIVALENCE, UH, SALARY ISSUE WITH THE, MY POSITION AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S POSITION, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE A NET OF ABOUT 13,000 MORE COMING BACK, UH, TO THE COURT TO SPEND ON OTHER THINGS, UM, THAN WHAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD BEFORE.

SO FUNCTIONALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HELP Y'ALL PAY FOR IT.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE CRUNCHED TRYING TO, UH, TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK.

SO BY MY MATH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COUNT IN THE, THE, UH, POSITION THAT WE HAD FOR THE, UH, THE ASSISTANT DA, UM, WHICH I GUESS IS 134,000 PLUS, THAT'S 73,000, THAT'S SOMEWHERE OVER $207,000.

UM, THAT BETWEEN YESTERDAY'S DISCUSSIONS AND TODAY'S, I'VE KIND OF TAKEN OFF OF WHAT I'D BE ASKING Y'ALL FOR.

SO I WOULD ASK, I, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ABOUT, ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE ISSUES.

UM, BUT I'D ASK THAT YOU HELP US BY, UH, GRANTING THE SALARY EQUIVALENCE ISSUE WITH, UH, MY POSITION AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S POSITION.

AGAIN, THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S A 50,000 VARIANCE BETWEEN THE FELONY PROSECUTOR AND THE MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR SLASH WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES HAVE OTHER ROLES, BUT SO DO YOU AS WELL.

YOU PROSECUTE MURDERERS, YOU PROSECUTE, UH, SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

AND I'M MAGISTRATE AT THE JAIL AND IT'S BEEN A DRASTIC, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS, THERE'S BEEN A DRASTIC, WHEN I WALK IN THAT DOOR, THERE'S GONNA BE A SEXUAL OFFENSE, UH, TO A CHILD.

THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, THERE'S BEEN TIMES, AND I, I'VE, I'VE MAGISTRATE SEVERAL MURDERERS UNFORTUNATELY.

AND, UH, WE ARE GROWING AND WE ARE NUMBER SIX IN THE NATION.

AND I WANT THE COUNT THE COURT TO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA GET NUNS AND SAINTS WALKING IN THE DOOR HERE IN PARKER COUNTY.

YOU'RE GONNA GET, UH, ANOTHER CORRESPONDINGLY ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT AND YOU'RE GONNA WANT, UM, A COMPETENT DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT SEASONED AND KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

UH, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN THAT POSITION FOREVER, BUT YOU'VE BEEN WITH, WITH THE COUNTY FOR HOW LONG? I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 1995 AND THE DA'S OFFICE SINCE 97.

I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE COURT TAKE A CONSIDERATION THAT, UH, WE HAVE A VERY CAPABLE ELECTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT IT'S JUST, IT, I I I'M, IT NEEDS, WE NEED TO BE FAIR ABOUT THIS.

AND, AND THERE'S TOO, THAT'S TOO BIG OF A GAP BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE JOBS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS, WHETHER FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR.

NOW WE'RE STILL, YOU'RE STILL FIGHTING CRIME IN THIS COUNTY WITHOUT

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AND SO AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THE COMMITMENT THAT COMMISSIONER COLLEY HAD WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME THING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND BE FAIR ABOUT THIS, BUT A 50,000 VARIANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS INCREDIBLY UNACCEPTABLE.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD URGE THIS COURT TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT.

I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LAWS ENFORCED WITHIN THE COURTS, WITHIN THE DA'S OFFICE, UH, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ON THE STREET.

UM, YOU END UP WITH LAWLESSNESS.

AND WE'VE SEEN HOW THAT'S BORNE OUT IN, UH, IN SOME OTHER COUNTIES AND SOME OTHER STATES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT FOLLOW THROUGH IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM OR YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU BASICALLY END UP WHERE CALIFORNIA IS IN A LOT OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE DISREGARD THE LAW.

THEY DON'T CARE IF THEY GO TO JAIL, THEY'RE GONNA GET OUT IN FIVE MINUTES.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY THOSE THINGS TO US.

WE'RE JUST, OUR JOB IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU DO.

WE, WE ARE VERY, VERY AWARE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY AND THAT YOUR OFFICE DOES.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

COMMISSIONER, WE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

I'VE SECONDED THE MOTION.

UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I WANT, I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE MY HEAD IN THE RIGHT PLACE ON THIS.

SO PER THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 46 0 0 3 B, WE HAVE TO PAY YOU A SUPPLEMENT AT LEAST AS HIGH AS WHAT WE PAID AT THE DISTRICT JUDGE, WHICH IS 18,000.

SO THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR FLOOR.

LEGALLY REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION MOTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, SORRY TO START WITH, IS THE 18,000 THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.

THAT'S THE MOTION I'M MAKING.

WHAT? THE SUPPLEMENT THAT HE'S ASKING FOR 18,000.

THAT'S ACCURATE.

SO YOUR, YOUR MOTION'S ONLY FOR THE 18? YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S TO START WITH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET US STARTED.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, I THINK THE EIGHT GO AHEAD.

JUST TO PUT A BOW ON THAT THOUGH.

SO WE HAVE TO PAY YOU AT LEAST 18 YES, SIR.

SUPPLEMENT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THAT'S THE FLOOR.

UM, IT'S ABOUT 60 TOTAL RIGHT.

TO GET US UP TO WHERE YOU'RE EQUIVALENT.

OF THAT 60 TOTAL, ABOUT 36 CAN BE PULLED INDIRECTLY FROM SENATE BILL 22, AND THEN ABOUT 37 AND A HALF CAN COME VIA MOVING HALF OF THE NICE CASE SYSTEM OVER TO YOUR ASSET FORFEITURE YIELDING A NET TO US OF 13 ISH.

EXACTLY.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COURT CAN DO, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, I WILL DO IT IF Y'ALL APPROVE THAT.

UM, AND, AND SAME FOR THE OTHER, UH, WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE TWO CHECKS GOING TO THEM OR THE COUNTY WOULD WOULD PAY THAT, AND THEN I WOULD PAY THE COUNTY AT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE REALLY.

IT'S KIND OF A SHELL GAME ON, ON HOW THE MONEY GOES OUT.

UM, BUT THE SAME MONEY WOULD GO OUT EITHER WAY AND WE WOULD PAY 37,500 OF THAT.

SO LET'S FINISH UP ON MY MOTION.

SO WE HAVE THE A TEAM, UM, YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL SHIFTS IN FUNDS, UH, TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.

UM, MY MATH, UH, HAS EXCEEDED THE NUMBER THAT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I WOULD ASK FOR THAT, THAT MOTION TO BE, UM, TO MEET IT.

AND, UM, I BELIEVE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS REDUCED HIS AMOUNT BY 5,000 IS TO MATCH WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS, IS WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR THAT MOTION TO BE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I'M ASKING FOR THAT, THAT, THAT SALARY TO BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY MAKES.

PROBABLY THE BEST THING TO DO IS ACTUALLY CALCULATE WHAT THE AMOUNT IS.

UH, THE AMOUNT OF THE SALARY, THE AMOUNT OF THE SUPPLEMENT PAID TO JEFF WOULD BE $49,561.

THAT WOULD BE THE SALARY.

SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE TOTAL DEAL INSTEAD OF THE, THE 18,000, WHAT'S THE NET WITH THE TOTAL WITH THESE CHANGES? SIX, UH, WE GET 13.

THAT'S WITH HIS TOTAL ASK TO BE WELL WITH THE COUNTY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WITH THE OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE PULLING SOME FROM SENATE BILL 22 AND THEN HIM TAKING HALF OF THE NICE, THE $75,000 COURT FEE OR, OR SOFTWARE SYSTEM PUTTING IT OVER IN ASSET FORFEITURE.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

I WOULD ASK THE COURT TO TAKE THAT ON AFTER THAT.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER TO GET STARTED.

SO WE'RE MIXING A COUPLE THINGS.

WE'VE GOT THAT $75,000, UH, SOFTWARE ASK THAT, THAT JEFF IS REFERENCING OVER HERE THAT HE CAN PAY HALF OF WITH ASSET FOR FORESTER FOR ONE YEAR.

SO THERE'S STILL THE OTHER 3, 7, 5

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THERE HANGING OUT.

WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE SOFTWARE YET.

SO IT'S A NET.

WE WE'RE STILL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE OTHER MONEY TO PAY FOR THE SOFTWARE.

EXACTLY.

WELL, THAT'S WHY ALSO WHEN I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING FOR IT, I'M NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF THIS.

THIS IS ALL GOVERNMENT MONEY.

THIS IS ALL TAXPAYER MONEY EXCEPT THE ASSET FORFEITURE MONEY.

COMES FROM BACK ASSETS.

SO AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE FAIR ABOUT THIS.

WITH THE JOB THAT YOU DO AND THE DEMAND THAT'S GONNA BE ON YOU, AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE, UH, I SEE THE NUMBERS GROWING.

I SEE THE, THE SEVERITY OF THE CASES.

UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EASY I ME TO MAGISTRATE THOSE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT IS WHEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM WITH YOU AND YOUR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, UM, WITH YOUR ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.

AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT JOB.

I MEAN, TO KEEP, KEEP FAMILIES SAFE, IT TIES RIGHT INTO PUBLIC SAFETY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN HAVE A VARIANCE OF 50,000 OR EVEN 18,000 OR WHATEVER, THAT 30,000 THAT WOULD BE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN JUSTIFY DOING THAT WHEN WE HAVE A COMPETENT DISTRICT ATTORNEY DOING A GOOD JOB.

WELL, THE 18,000 IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

SO LET'S GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY AND GO FROM THERE.

I AGREE.

VOTE ON THAT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, JUDGE.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ON THE 18,000? ALL IN FAVOR, MR. SWANG? CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU STATE ANY TYPE OF COMMITMENT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO REGARDING FUTURE YEAR ASSET FUND FORFEITURES? SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO OR NOT.

I I, I DO THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, TAKING THAT MUCH MONEY OUT OF THE ASSET FORFEITURE FUND WOULD BE UNSUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM.

UM, THAT'S A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY YEAR AND YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ADJUST YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE OF IT EITHER.

I'M SORRY, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THAT AT HUDSON OAKS, WE, YOU CAN'T ADJUST YOUR BUDGET ON, ON WHAT THOSE FORFEITURES ARE AS WELL.

WELL, AND, AND I'LL ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT OF IN, IN DECIDING TO DO THAT I, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF THE JUVENILE PROBATION ASPECT OF, OF THE USE OF THIS PROGRAM.

THEY'RE A SMALL PORTION.

IT'LL MOSTLY BE JOHN'S OFFICE IN MY OFFICE.

AND SO BASICALLY WHEN I WAS DOING HALF OF THAT, MY THOUGHT WAS I'M GONNA PAY FOR THE WHOLE HALF THAT OUR COUNTY, OUR, OUR, OUR DA'S OFFICE WOULD BE USING.

UM, AND, AND TRY TO DO IT LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS THE LOGIC.

WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR FLAWED, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS I UNDERSTAND, COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S APPROACH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S TO DIVIDE THE THING INTO TWO AND CONSIDER IT IN TWO DIFFERENT VOTES.

SO YOU'D HAVE THE 18,000 AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE BALANCE WILL BE 42 0 7 1.

AND I CERTAINLY CAN RESPECT THAT APPROACH.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WE INCREASED IT TO TWO, UH, EQUALLY ON, UM, THE SAME AS WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS.

WAS THE, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? 42,000.

THE, THE TOTAL IS 60,071.

BUT WHAT WAS THE REMAINDER IN THE 42 71? THE REMAINDER WOULD BE 42 0 71.

AND THE MOTION IS MADE FOR 42 0 71 TO BE ADDED AS WELL TO MAKE THE MATCH THE, THE FUNDS IS WHAT THE, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY MAKES.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND, AND A SECOND.

I COMMISSIONER HOL MY MATH.

GIVE, GIVE BACK JUST A SECOND TO CALCULATE THAT.

YEAH, IT WOULD BE, WELL, OKAY, SO THIS WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF THE SUPPLEMENT MINUS 18,000? NO.

SO LET'S TAKE 18,000 OFF THIS.

MINUS 18.

SO, SO ORIGINALLY THE SUPPLEMENT WAS ASKED FOR 49,561.

SO YOU TAKE 18,000 OFF THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL 31,561 TO BRING THE TOTAL SUPPLEMENT TO 49,561.

AGAIN, THE $60,071, THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S YOUR RETIREMENT.

THAT'S TAXES, THAT'S INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S YOUR TOTAL COST.

BUT HIS SUPPLEMENT WOULD BE 49,561 18,000 IS WHAT'S REQUIRED.

THE ADDITIONAL IS 31,561.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

IT'S 31,561 THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S MY MOTION THAT WE, WE ADD THAT TO THE SALARY TO MATCH, UH, WITH WHAT THE 5,000 HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

UM, THAT IS MY MOTION.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE, JUDGE.

IT TOOK, IT TOOK AWAY MY SCREEN.

UH, GIVE US YOUR HOLD.

DID YOU SECOND IT? I DID.

OKAY, GOOD.

IT, IT TOOK IT AWAY FROM ME.

ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.

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WHAT ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, JUDGE? SECOND.

WE DON'T NEED A SECOND.

THIRD .

I, I GET THE POINT.

UM, WE'LL JUST MAKE IT 1130.

WE'LL RETURN AT 11 30 11.

CAN I, CAN I, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? WHERE DO I GO? WELL, YOU AND I GOTTA, WE, YOU AND I GOTTA GO TO, WE HAVE A PURCHASING BOARD MEETING AT WHAT TIME? 12.

CAN YOU JUST GO, SORRY.

SORRY TO NUDGE YOU.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA RESUME THE, UH, THE MEETING AT 1125.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO, UM, COUNSELOR.

WHAT AGENDA ITEM WOULD THAT BE UNDER THAT YOU'RE WANT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ONE UNDER THE APPROVAL FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES.

VERY WELL PROCEED.

AND SO WE, WE WENT BACK AND WHEN I ORIGINALLY REVIEWED THAT BILL, IT, IT DID STATE THAT YOU COULD HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF.

UH, WE JUST CHECKED ON THAT AND IT DOES COVER BOTH EMPLOYEES SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT A DIFFERENT TITLE.

IT, IT DOES COVER THAT JUST AS I ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED IT.

THANKS.

I'VE ALSO BEEN REQUEST, UM, BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, UH, TO COVER THE SHERIFF, AND THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME AGENDA ITEM.

SO YEAH, I WANTED TO, TO LOOK AT THOSE PERSONNEL REQUESTS AND SEE WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY OUT OF THE, THE FUND THERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS YEAH.

BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEXT ON MY LIST TOO.

COMMISSIONER GEORGE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

WELL, PARDON ME.

MARK, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

YEAH, I, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN THE SHERIFF DOES.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND REAL QUICK, UH, FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING DP OR, UH, F B I KEEPS STATS OF POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIOS ACROSS THE NATION.

OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, THE RATIOS ARE A LITTLE HIGHER ON THE EAST COAST AND, UH, ON THE WEST COAST, AND THEN THEY, THEY TAPER OFF A LITTLE BIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NATION.

BUT IN GENERAL, AND ON AVERAGE, UH, THE POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIO FOR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS 2.4 OFFICERS PER 1000 CITIZENS.

CURRENTLY, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SITS BELOW 0.9 OFFICERS PER 1000 CITIZENS.

I, I, I DON'T HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT IS THIS A U C R REPORT? URBAN CRIME REPORT? YES, SIR.

I'VE, I'VE SEEN THAT.

SO THE, UH, SO WE'RE AT 1.9, NO, WE ARE AT LESS THAN NINE.

WE'RE AT 0.88 RIGHT NOW.

LESS THAN 0.9.

RELATIVE TO WHAT OUR POPULATION IS.

AND IS THAT, IS THAT POPULATION OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY OR JUST THE UNINCORPORATED? NO, THAT'S JUST UNINCORPORATED.

PROPORTIONATELY TO HOW THE COUNTY OS THE DIS TWO DISPATCH POSITIONS WE'RE ASKING FOR.

THAT'S JUST THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE POPULATION.

SO I SENT YOU GUYS A A A P C S L FACT SHEET, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

IT LISTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT STATS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE WE FALL INTO LINE WITH, UH, OTHER AGENCIES OF OUR SIZE, WHETHER THEY BE, UH, THE NUMBER OF AGENCY POPULATION POLICED OR TOTAL COUNTY POPULATION POLICED.

UM, WE, WE RANK WITH COUNTIES LIKE EL PASO, SMITH COUNTY, CAMERON COUNTY, COLE MALL, AND COLLIN COUNTY.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AGENCY POPULATION ACTUALLY POLICED.

AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL COUNTY POPULATION, WE HIT SOME OF THE SAME COUNTIES, BUT WE ALSO FALL IN LINE WITH ECTER COUNTY, MIDLAND, KAUFMAN, UH, COWELL COUNTY AND PLACES LIKE THAT.

THE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT'S, MOST RECENT, UM, SURVEY ABOUT AND FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE NATION.

UH, AND THE TOP 10 IS BOTH COMO, I'M SORRY, KAUFMAN AND PARKER COUNTY.

UM, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'RE GROWING EXTREMELY FAST.

IF THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW AT THE RATE IT'S GROWING AND HAS HISTORICALLY GROWN OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, THAT POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIO WILL CONTINUE TO DROP.

UH, WE'VE REQUESTED, UH, IN THIS BUDGET, WE REQUESTED TWO DISPATCHERS AND SIX POLICE OFFICERS TO BE ADDED TO OUR, UM, OUR STAFF IF APPROVED.

THE SIX POLICE OFFICERS WILL BRING THIS BACK UP TO RIGHT AROUND A LITTLE OVER NINE, UH, 0.9 OFFICERS PER 1000.

UM, IN ORDER TO GET TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD 40, 50, 60, YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICERS TO OUR STAFF, WHICH, UM, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED.

AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS TO CONTINUE TO ADD STAFF

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THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS CONTRACT, OR THE COUNTY HAS CONTRACTS TO PROVIDE POLICING SERVICES TO SEVERAL LOCAL POLICE AGENCIES.

UH, RENO POLICE DEPARTMENT, HUDSON OAKS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WILLOW PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND ALONG WITH AZEL, I S D POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE COUNTY DOES RECUPERATE SOME OF THOSE DISPATCHING COSTS IN THOSE CONTRACTS.

UM, AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO STAFF SEVERAL DIFFERENT RADIOS, UH, TO COVER THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OF EACH ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DISPATCHES FOR, YOU HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU HAVE THE COUNTY DISTRICT, ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, YOU HAVE ALL THE CONSTABLES, D P S, UM, WE HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL ON THERE, COURTHOUSE SECURITY, AND THEN ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE TRY TO CONTINUE, WE HAVE TWO RADIO CONSOLES THAT ARE STAFFED 24 7 365 TO JUST COVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

UM, AND SO WE STAY PRETTY BUSY IN THERE.

THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD IS DISPATCH HASN'T GROWN OVER THE YEARS, AND THE CALL VOLUME CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

NINE ONE ONE CALLS CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

AND SO WE ARE AT MOST OF THE TIMES WE'RE AT OR BELOW OUR MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS IN DISPATCH.

UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD MORE OFFICERS AND POTENTIALLY EVEN SPRINGTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD SOME MORE STAFF IN THERE.

SO THAT WAS THE REQUEST FOR THE TWO DISPATCHERS.

I MOVE THAT WE, UH, REQUEST THE TWO DISPATCHERS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

BECKY, YOU GOT A FIGURE ON THAT, OR WELL, DO WE, CAN WE GET, I'M, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A SECOND BEFORE WE PROCEED.

ARE THE OTHER OFFICERS NOT PART OF THE SAME? I'M GONNA SECOND IT JUST SO WE CAN BE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

UM, YEAH, WE JUST DO PART OF IT ANY TIME.

SO THE NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST WAS FOR TWO NEW DISPATCHER POSITIONS BUDGETED $54,674 EACH ONE.

NEW LIEUTENANT POSITION BUDGETED 94,849 FOR NEW PATROL DEPUTIES AT 63,439 EACH.

THAT'S BASED ON THE NEW PAY SCALE, CORRECT? NO, THAT'S, OH, IT IS.

SO 63,000 439 1 NEW TRANSPORT DEPUTY BUDGETED AT 66,478, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A RAISE TO THEIR RECEPTIONIST POSITION TO 52,000 4 0 1.

THAT POSITION'S CURRENTLY BUDGETED AROUND 47,000, WHICH IS LOW, I WOULD SAY.

WELL, MY MOTION WAS FOR THE DISPATCHERS.

JUST FOR THE DISPATCHERS FIRST.

SO, AND THAT TOTAL WAS WHAT? IT WOULD BE 54,674 EACH FOR THE POSI FOR THE, THEIR SALARY.

THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BENEFITS YOU TAG ON ABOUT ANOTHER 30,000.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COLLEEN FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF TWO DISPATCHERS.

IS THERE I SECONDED.

SO I, I HAD SOME DISCUSSION, UH, JUDGE, IF, UH, IF I MIGHT, UM, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO WORK ON WAS THE, THE POSITIONS THAT MIGHT BE FUNDED OH.

THROUGH, UNDER THE BILL, UNDER THE, UNDER THE BILL.

AND, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE ALL, BUT THE REASON I HAVE THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN SET THOSE ASIDE, UH, THAT, THAT WE CAN PAY FOR EXTERNALLY, UH, THEN, THEN WE CAN WORK BACK THROUGH WHATEVER ELSE WE'VE GOT AND TRY TO WORK OUR WAY UP.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, TO DO WITH WORKING THROUGH COUNTY ATTORNEY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND NOW, AND THEN, AND MOVING ON DOWN.

UH, SO I, I'M RESPECTFUL OF YOUR MOTION THAT DON'T MISUNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO WORK FOR.

ARE THESE POSITIONS ABLE TO BE PAID FOR WITH THAT FUND? SO WE HAVE A LOT MORE LEEWAY THAN THE, UH, PROSECUTOR'S OFFICES ON THE THINGS THAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR? MM-HMM.

, THE, THE, THE THING THAT I WANNA POINT OUT IS THIS, THIS GRANT IS GOOD FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, RIGHT.

BUT THE STATE HAS NOT PROVIDED A REVENUE STREAM CONTINUE TO FUND THAT GRANT PAST THESE TWO YEARS.

UH, TAC HAS TOLD ME AFTER NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THIS GRANT'S GONNA WORK, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE ON TO TRY TO CONTINUE THIS FUNDING.

UM, BUT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.

SO IT'S GONNA BE UP TO YOU.

UM, SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR, WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS.

UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO THE COURT HOW YOU WANNA SPEND THIS MONEY.

IT IS A USER OR LOSE IT, AND IT DOES RUN, UH, FROM THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY FUNDS THAT WE DON'T USE DURING THE FISCAL YEAR HAS TO BE RETURNED TO THE STATE.

UM, SO THE QUESTION WAS, DO DOES THE COURT WANT TO USE THE MONEY FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING OR FOR, UM, POTENTIAL RAISES OR, OR NEW EMPLOYEES OR SOMETHING? IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU.

IT'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

UM,

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JUST KNOW THAT IT, WHATEVER YOU VOTE TO APPROVE, IF THE GRANT DOESN'T CONTINUE, AND EVEN HAVING SAID THAT, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA AT THE, IF THE PACE, UH, KEEPS UP WITH THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN, AND AS I PRESENTED OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, WE'RE GOING CONTINUE TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES GOING FORWARD.

UM, SO YES, THESE, THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR STAFF AFTER THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS THAT, UM, THE SHERIFF HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO $75,000, AND ALL THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD TO BE BROUGHT UP TO $45,000.

WE FAR SUPPRESS SURPASSED THAT.

SO THE, UH, COMPTROLLER HAS STATED THAT AFTER YOU MEET THAT HURDLE, THEN YOU CAN UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, ADDITIONAL RAISES OR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT.

UM, ALL THE STAFF UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD BE COVERED.

UM, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHAT STAFF WE HAVE TO, WE CAN USE IT FOR AND WHAT WE CAN'T, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE COVERED, MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO MY POINT IS YOU NEED BOTH AND WE CAN USE IT, ONE OR THE OTHER.

IT'S JUST A A MATTER OF OF WHICH, WHICH COLUMN WE PUT IT IN.

HOWEVER, UH, FOR THIS, FOR THIS NEXT UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN ANTICIPATE $500,000 THAT WE CAN SPEND HERE FOR SOMETHING.

NOW YOU SAY, OKAY, IT'S JUST FOR THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS A ONE-TIME COST, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE'D HAVE THE SAME EQUIPMENT, I'M GUESSING.

MOST LIKELY.

THAT WOULD'VE BROUGHT $12 MILLION A LOAN JUST ON THE SALES TAX SIDE OF IT.

UH, THAT COMES, SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER IS MY POINT IN THE WHOLE DEAL.

AND, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE $500,000 AND, AND YES, THAT COULD BE COVERED.

THESE TWO POSITIONS COULD BE COVERED WITH THAT MONEY.

AND JUST FOR OUR, OUR SIDE OVER HERE IS, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT 500,000 MORE DOLLARS COMING IN FOR YOUR REQUEST.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

YOUR MISS YOUR MOTION STILL STANDS.

RIGHT? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HOLD ON.

PAPER PASS FIVE VOTE.

HEY, I GOT A QUESTION REAL QUICK.

DO, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON HOW MANY FOLKS ARE MOVING HERE, LIKE ON AN ANNUAL OR MONTHLY? DAILY? WELL, I, I, I, I DO.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, BUT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY MORE ACCURATE THAN NOT, IS, IS THREE YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, ON THE R T C WE WERE AT 147,000 POPULATION.

AND NOW THE IRONY OF IT IS, IS NOW WHAT COG IS COMING BACK WITH IS CLOSE TO 170.

AND SO, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

SO LOOK AT THE MATH AND THE TENURE AND, AND THE HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING.

UH, AND 60% OF THAT GROWTH IS IN OUR E T J, WHICH IS, I MEAN, LOGICAL BECAUSE THERE'S LESS COST OUT IN, IN BUILDING WHEN THERE'S NO BUILDING CODES OR, UM, SO THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE EVEN AT A FASTER PACE, UH, THAT WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE PROBABLY EXPECTED TO HIT THE 200,000 MARK WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

SO, UM, AND THESE, THESE ARE COGS NUMBERS TELLING US, AND WHEN WE, WE SPOKE TO THEM, AND, UH, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD AND BAD NEWS.

IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.

I MEAN, THE GROWTH IS HERE AND IT'S COMING, BUT THAT'S WHY THAT 130 MILLION MATCHING FUND, UH, THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT AS LIKE, YOU, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE CONSERVATIVELY, AND IT'S GONNA BE MORE BECAUSE YOUR GROWTH IS HERE.

AND IT, THAT NUMBER WAS MENTIONED.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, HITTING THE 200,000 MARK FAIRLY QUICKLY.

AND THE, AND THE, THE REALITY OF IT IS JUST, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NO STOPPING IT.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE.

WHEN YOU WENT FROM NUMBER NINE TO NUMBER SIX IN SIX MONTHS, THAT'S UNPRECEDENTED.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM, THOUGH.

THE, THE REVENUE HASN'T KEPT UP WITH THE GROWTH.

IT'S LAGGED EAST, LAGS BEHIND.

AND THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION THAT WE'RE IN THIS YEAR, IS THAT THE REVENUE, UH, THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES HAS NOT, HAS NOT CORRELATED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING HERE, BECAUSE THAT HASN'T CAUGHT UP YET.

AND THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT'S PUT US IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRUTH TO THAT.

AND I WANT TO, I'M GETTING ON A SOAPBOX HERE, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE, WE, WE PARTNERED WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL IS 'CAUSE ALSO 60% OF OUR WORKFORCE GOES EAST EVERY DAY.

THEY, THEY, WE EXPORT THOSE JOBS EVERY DAY TO THE EAST, AND THAT PUTS A STRAIN ON OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHICH HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP NUMEROUS TIMES BY MIKE MORRIS.

SO THE, WE'RE NUMBER ONE, WE'RE LOSING JOBS TO THE EAST TWO, WE'RE PUTTING THIS STRAIN ON OUR, OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS CAUSING MAJOR PROBLEMS. AND SO ONE OF THE FOCUS IN TRYING TO BRING HIGHWAY WAGE JOB GROWTH IS, IS CRITICAL BECAUSE IT SOLVES THOSE TWO PROBLEMS, ALSO BRINGS A SOURCE OF REVENUE.

AND AT SOME POINT, UH, LIKE WE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT RIVIAN AND, AND FORT WORTH, UM, AND THE PARKER COUNTY LINE,

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IT'S A MATTER OF TIME, BUT WE, OUR FOCUS IS, IS IN THE RIGHT PLACES.

UH, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND, BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER.

UM, BUT THE FOCUS OF, OF 60% OF OUR WORKFORCE GOING EAST EVERY DAY IS KILLING US IN THAT, THAT, AND WE'RE REVERSING THAT SLOWLY.

UH, BUT THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN EMPHASIS OF THAT AND TRYING TO REVERSE THAT ON THE STRAIN ON OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

COMMISSIONER HALE, WE, WE ADD ABOUT 6,700 PEOPLE A YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 22 A DAY IS WHAT I WAS JUST TOLD.

22 TO 30.

8,000 A YEAR.

SO WHENEVER I, WHENEVER I DID THESE FIGURES, UH, D P S KEEPS UP WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PER OF CITIZENS POLICED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

AND I USED THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 NUMBERS, WHICH FOR THE COUNTY D P S SHOWED 165,834.

BUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY POLICED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS 109,285.

AND SO WHENEVER I MAKE MY CALCULATIONS, I, I USED AN AVERAGE OF 5.6, UM, TO MODIFY THAT, TO COME UP WITH THE POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIO OF WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 0.88.

AND KEEP IN MIND TOO, THE 60% OF ALL THAT GROWTH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, IN THAT 8,000 YOU MENTIONED MM-HMM.

, 60% OF THAT IS IN THE E T J, WHICH IS PUTTING A BURDEN OBVIOUSLY ON, IS THE DENSITY GROWS.

YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CALL TIMES AND YOUR RESPONDER RESPONSE TIMES.

THAT BECOMES A FACTOR TOO, BECAUSE NOW THE DENSITY IS GREATER BECAUSE THOSE ARE, THESE CITIES CAN'T ANNEXES WITH THE NEW BILL.

BUT YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY THOUGH, DON'T YOU, SHERIFF? NO, HE DOES.

IN LIGHT OF, UH, 1145 BEING OUR HARD STOP, AND THAT BEING FOUR MINUTES AWAY, CAN WE KNOCK OUT ANOTHER THING REAL QUICK? WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S THE THING.

KIM AND I HAVE TO GO TO A PURCHASING BOARD MEETING IN THREE MINUTES.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT, AND THAT WE CAN DO IT NOW, IS TO GO AHEAD AND COME BACK AND TAKE A LUNCH, BE BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK, WE'LL BE DONE WITH OUR MEETING.

AND, UM, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL, LET'S DO THAT.

SO LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, HOLD, HOLD YOUR THOUGHTS WHERE YOU'RE AT, AT 1142.

WE WILL, UH, WE WILL GO TO LUNCH AND WE WILL RETURN AT ONE O'CLOCK, UH, PROMPTLY.

AND, UH, FINISH OUR BUSINESS.

WE'RE GONNA RETURN FROM, UM, RECESS HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK.

WE DO.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, GO BACK, UH, TO, UH, THE, SO UNDER GENERAL FUND BUDGET UPDATES, UH, YOU PROCEED, MARK.

UM, GETTING BACK TO THE, UH, TOPICS.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, SIX, A NEW PEACE OFFICER POSITION, SWORN POSITIONS.

ONE IS A LIEUTENANT, UM, AND THEN FOUR FOR PATROL.

UH, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PATROL SHIFTS, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS GO ON EACH PATROL SHIFT.

IF I COULD INTERRUPT.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO WORK ON IS THE, THE PORTION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY OUTTA THAT 500,000, THOSE FOUR PATROL DEPUTIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BE ON PATROL, CAN WE HAVE A NUMBER FOR THOSE? EITHER FROM YOU OR BECKY? EITHER ONE.

BECAUSE WITH THOSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE EQUIPMENT THOUGH AS WELL, RIGHT? NOT JUST THE, NOT JUST THE S THE SALARIES.

THE SALARIES FOR THOSE WOULD BE 63,439.

SO ADD 30,000 FOR BENEFITS.

SO THAT'D BE 93,439 FOR THOSE FOUR.

SO I THINK THOSE FOUR POSITIONS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED COMMUNICATION POSITIONS ARE GONNA EAT UP THE 500,000 MORE THAN THE 500,000.

SO I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT KNOCKED OUT BEFORE WE GO INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB THERE.

BUT, UH, THAT, UH, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A, AN ACTUAL NUMBER ON, UH, THE SALARIES OF THOSE FOUR.

IT'S 93, 439 TIMES FOUR 63,439 WOULD BE THEIR BUDGETED SALARY.

PLUS THE OTHER 30 OH, PLUS THE OTHER.

SO, AND GIMME THE, GIMME THE FOUR 93,439 TIMES FOUR.

YEAH, IT IS, UH, 3 7 3.

7 5, 6.

YOU SAID 3 7 3 7 5 6 5.

SO NOW YOU'VE GOT 54 6, CORRECT.

7, 5, 6.

84, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVED THE, UH, ADDITION OF FOUR PATROL POSITIONS.

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SO THE SHERIFF'S WOULD BE, UH, 5 63 THERE AT A COST OF 3 73.

7 56.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE REQUEST WITH COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

MAKING A SECOND.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT I, WE'RE STILL HANGING OUT THERE.

SINCE WE'VE APPROVED THOSE POSITIONS, NOW WE'VE GOTTA PAY FOR THE CORRESPONDING EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED.

SO WHILE WE'RE HERE AND BEFORE WE GET, IT GETS LOST ANYWHERE, 3 0 9 7 8 1 3 0 9 7 8 1.

AND WHAT'S THAT FOR? THAT'S FOR THREE TAHOES PLUS OUTFITTING JACKETS.

UNIFORM BODY.

WELL, THAT'S FOR FIVE.

SO PART OF THE, UH, WHAT YOU SENT US BACK TO DO AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND EVERYTHING, PART OF WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH HANDHELD RADIOS TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL SIX POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE $45,000 FROM OUR, I SAW THAT REQUEST.

UH, THE PERSONNEL COSTS FOR, FOR POLICE OFFICERS.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR SIX, UM, FIVE IN PATROL.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE IF ALL FIVE WERE APPROVED, THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, THE THREE PATROL CARS, FULLY OUTFITTED, FULLY OUTFITTED PATROL CAR WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO IT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S BRAND NEW.

IS ABOUT $95,000.

IT'S A LITTLE OVER $95,000.

UH, SO IT'D BE $300,805 TOTAL FOR THOSE.

JUST THOSE THREE POSITIONS.

THAT'S, AND TELL ME WHAT THAT'S FOR.

THAT'S FOR THREE TAHOE PLUS OUTFITTING JACKET, UNIFORMS AND BODY ARMOR, BODY CAMERA, TASER AND TRAUMA KITS, AND NEW HEART TESTING.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THAT.

WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE FOUR DEPUTY POSITIONS.

THREE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL DEPUTY POSITION.

IS IT FOUR OR THREE? OH, SAY GOODBYE COMMISSIONER.

HELL, HANG ON JUST A MINUTE.

DID YOU GET THAT? YOU ONLY HAVE THREE NUMBERS CHANGING.

TWO FOR THE, YEAH.

SO YOU ONLY NEED TO ADD TWO BECAUSE THE THIRD ONE'S FOR THE LIEUTENANT'S POSITION.

DID YOUR MOTION CHANGE? YEAH, IT'S CHANGING.

JUST, JUST GIMME JUST A SECOND HERE.

WHAT MY INTENT IS TO FUND THE POSITIONS AS WE HIRED THEM.

THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE A SURPRISE SOMEWHERE LATER AND SAY, WELL, YOU HIRED THESE, I MEAN, YOU HIRED THIS POSITION, SO YOU DON'T, NOW YOU'VE GOTTA PAY FOR IT.

WE'VE GOTTA, AS WE MOVE ALONG, WE CAN DO THAT.

IT'S SURE A LOT BETTER.

I THINK.

SO THE FOUR POSITIONS WILL BE SHARING TWO PATROL CARS.

AND THEN THE, THE NEW, THE, THE THIRD CAR WILL ACTUALLY BE FOR THE LIEUTENANT.

'CAUSE OUR LIEUTENANT'S CAPTAIN.

SINCE IT'LL ACTUALLY BE A TAKE ON CAR.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE JUST DOING TWO FOR NOW.

AND THEN WE COME BACK TO THE LIEUTENANT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO THAT.

ANYWAY, THE, THE OTHER THING, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH HIRING A NEW POLICE OFFICER IS THE JACKET.

UM, THE JACKETS ARE $270 A PIECE.

THEY'RE A TWO PIECE JACKET BROUGHT FROM LAUER.

UM, IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN WEAR OUT.

IT'S GOT PATCHES.

UM, THEY'RE VERY HEAVY DUTY AND, UH, VERY STRONG.

UM, THE UNIFORM, THE COURT HAS APPROVED, UH, A PURCHASE OF $300 TO MM-HMM.

, UH, FOR NEW HIRE UNIFORMS. THEY'RE ALSO COME ALONG WITH A BODY CAM AND A TASER, UM, BODY ARMOR, A TRAUMA KIT, WHICH THEY WEAR ON THEIR, BE ON THEIR BELTS.

AND THEN THE NEW HIRE TESTING.

SO THE, THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICAL, THE PHYSICAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT IF, UH, FOR SOME OF THAT STUFF, LIKE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL, IF THEY HAVE LESS THAN A 180 DAY BREAK IN SERVICE OR IF THEY JUST COME OUTTA THE ACADEMY.

SO THAT DOES SAVE US SOME COST.

COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR MOTION? I'M WAITING ON A NUMBER BACK FROM, UH, PURCHASING OVER THERE.

AS SOON AS SHE GETS IT.

WE'RE GONNA, BUT BASICALLY THE, THE, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS OUTFITTING THE FOUR DEPUTIES FOR PATROL THAT WE JUST HIRED.

AND, AND NOW THE NUMBER FOR THAT IS, IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE TWO TAHOES.

IT INCLUDES TWO TO TAHOES, UM, FOR 305,293.

AND THAT'S FOR FOUR

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JACKETS, UNIFORMS, BODY ARMOR, TASERS, BODY CAMERA, TRAUMA KIT, AND NEW HIRE.

TESTING FOR FOUR.

STATE THE NUMBER AGAIN, PLEASE.

MR. S HAS A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OH PASS.

SO IN RELATION TO THE LIEUTENANT'S POSITION RIGHT NOW, UH, 65, 70% OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE SWORN PERSONNEL REPORT TO ONE CAPTAIN, AND, UH, MAJORITY OF THOSE GO THROUGH ONE LIEUTENANT.

WE TALKED, I TALKED EARLIER, UH, AT ANOTHER SESSION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO REORGANIZE A LITTLE BIT AND ADD THIS LIEUTENANT'S POSITION.

THIS LIEUTENANT'S POSITION WILL TAKE OVER, UM, ANIMAL PATROL, THE SS R O PROGRAM, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF PATROL, UH, AND DISPATCH.

SO IT WOULD BASICALLY TAKE AWAY THE DIRECT SUPERVISION FROM THE CAPTAIN AND PLACE IT UNDER THE LIEUTENANTS.

SO THE CAPTAIN CAN ACTUALLY DO CAPTAIN DUTIES.

IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE SPAN OF CONTROL, 'CAUSE THIS REALLY DEALS A LOT WITH SPAN OF CONTROL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

UM, IN COMPARISON FOR, SO FOR A SPAN OF CONTROL FOR WEATHERFORD PD, THEY HAVE 3.2 OFFICERS PER SUPERVISOR.

WE CLASSIFY A SUPERVISOR AS A SERGEANT AND ABOVE, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE 6.4 OFFICERS PER SUPERVISOR.

AND SO WE'RE PRETTY LOUD ON THE SUPERVISION.

UH, WE DO A GREAT JOB WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE.

BUT, UM, IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCY AND OUR EFFECTIVENESS AND MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, WE, WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A FEW MORE SUPERVISORS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THIS IS THE, THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IS FOR THIS LIEUTENANT'S POSITION.

GO DOWN TO, UH, CAN I REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU MOVE ON? SURE.

I NEED TO CORRECT THAT NUMBER.

UM, MY, I PUT IT IN THE WRONG SLOT.

2 0 9, 2 46.

IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

CAN WE, UH, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND JUST CHANGE THE NUMBER FROM THE MOTION THAT I HAD THERE? THE MOTION WAS TO THE, THE AMOUNT OF NUMBER, UH, NUMBER REQUIRED TO OUT OUTFIT THE POSITIONS.

COMMISSIONER HILL, YOU CONCUR? YES.

NO, I, HUNDRED PERCENT LEAVES US A LITTLE LESS THAN NINE.

2 6 2 0 9 2 4 6.

ANIMAL CONTROL.

I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHERRY PICK HERE, BUT WHAT, WHAT, UH, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE, I'M TRYING TO DRAG UP THE NEXT NOTE.

WE, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT LEFT IN THAT 500,000 THERE IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET TO.

UM, I GUESS I'D ASK WHAT'S YOUR PRIORITY IS BETWEEN C I D, SPECIAL CRIMES ANIMAL CONTROL? WHICH ONE DO YOU WANNA GO TO NEXT TO FUND FROM THAT POSITION? FROM THAT, UH, SB 22 MONEY.

THE ONLY OTHER, UH, DIFFERENCE, WELL, THE ONLY OTHER POSITION WE HAVE REQUESTED IS A TRANSPORT POSITION OF 5 68.

WE, WE DREW OUR TRANSPORT PART-TIME FROM FIVE SIX.

TRANSPORT.

AND THEN THE, UH, AND THE LIEUTENANT.

LIEUTENANT, YES, SIR.

YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE.

I, I WOULD THINK THAT 500 THOUSANDS ALREADY SPENT.

YEAH, IT'S ALREADY SPENT BETWEEN THE TWO DISPATCH POSITIONS.

AND SO DISPATCH WAS ABOUT 110 TOTAL, CORRECT? NO, IT WAS THOUGHT IT WAS 55 EACH 50.

THAT'S 54 6 FOR EIGHT.

THAT'S JUST A, SORRY.

SO IT'S 84 6 4 EACH.

THAT'S 9 3 48 7.

I TOLD COMMISSIONER WALDEN WRONG THEN.

SO YEAH, WE'RE AT 28,000 ISH LEFTOVER.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SHOWED BECKY? AND THEN FOUR DEPUTIES IS ANOTHER 3 7 3 7 56.

NEVERMIND, I GOT YOU THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE, WE'RE WELL OVER NOW.

WE'RE WELL OVER.

WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF THE, WE'RE OUT OF THE MONEY FOR THIS.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT THE LIEUTENANT, UH, THE LIEUTENANT POSITION, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY HERE.

AND IT'S NOT LABELED, UH, LIEUTENANT POSITION AND A TRANSPORT POSITION AND TRANSPORT POSITION.

AND THE TOTAL FOR THE LIEUTENANT POSITION FOR EACH OF THOSE TWO POSITIONS, PLEASE.

MY NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN HERS.

SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S 94.

THE LIEUTENANT WOULD BE 1, 4, 9.

AND THEN THE BE

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WE'RE OUT THIS FOR THIS MONEY.

UH, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO.

COMMISSIONER, WE'D, UH, WE'D ORIGINALLY, UH, WAS GONNA ASK FOR THE TRANSPORT POSITION NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

BUT DOING, UH, AFTER THE LAST BUDGET HEARING, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH TRANSPORTS AND PULLED SOME NUMBERS AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED 45%, UH, OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE JUVENILE TRANSPORTS, UH, POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY COMING UP, UM, WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING OUR PEOPLE PRETTY RAGGED.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GO AHEAD AND MOVING UP THAT REQUEST TO THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF NEXT YEAR.

METALS HAVE GONE UP 300%.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE LIEUTENANT POSITION AND THE TRANSPORT POSITION AT THOSE FIGURES THAT BECKY READ OUT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, THE LIEUTENANT POSITION WOULD BE A SALARY OF 94,849 FOR A TOTAL COST OF 1 24 849.

TRANSPORT DEPUTY WOULD BE 66,478 SALARY WITH A TOTAL COST OF 96,478.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? WISH WALTERS MADE.

THE SECOND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE, MEAN DISCUSSION.

WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT WITH THE LIEUTENANTS? THE SAME AS THE PATROL DEPUTY.

UH, THERE IS NO EQUIPMENT THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE TRANSPORT DEPUTY.

WE WE'RE STILL WAITING ON TWO VEHICLES TO COME IN AND ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES COULD, WOULD GO TO THAT NEW POSITION.

SO DO YOU HAVE THE P THE AUDIBLE FOR ONE MORE VEHICLE FOR THE LIEUTENANT'S POSITION? SO IT'D BE A VEHICLE PLUS OTHER EQUIPMENT.

IT'S AT ONE, YOU'RE SAYING NO VEHICLE, HE SAID ONE VEHICLE.

I BELIEVE.

SO MR. ETT WOULD BE, UH, ONE TAHOE AND THEN THE ARMOR CAMERA TASER, ET CETERA? YES, SIR.

FIVE WHAT? 100,000.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IS, AGAIN, SORRY TO BE REDUNDANT.

THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT'LL BE ADDED, BE ADDED TO THE, THAT WAS JUST A, OKAY.

THAT'S ADDED TO THE, UH, LIEUTENANT AND WELL, HE DID MOTION FOR BOTH.

THREE ITEMS THAT MOTION CLARIFY, CLARIFY YOUR MOTION.

IT'S FOR THE TWO POSITIONS, PLUS THE EQUIPMENT.

PLUS THE EQUIPMENT FOR YES.

TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND 3 55.

SO YOUR TOTAL WOULD BE 3 21, RIGHT? 8 62.

DOES THAT MATCH Y'ALL'S NUMBERS? 3, 2, 1, 8 6 2 TOTAL SALARY FOR THE OTHER? NO.

WE, WE COULD COMBINE MOTION, YEAH.

? YES.

AS LONG AS WE'RE ACCURATE WITH THE NUMBER OF 3, 2 1 8 62.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THE TRANSPORT AT NINE SIX.

THAT, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT, THAT'S HOW WE, OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMOUNT OF 3 21.

8 62 FOR THE, THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED.

UH, WHICH IS TRANSPORT THE LIEUTENANT AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? THAT'S IT.

IS THE EQUIPMENT OKAY.

UNIFORM.

THEY DON'T UNIFORM, UNIFORM.

TO CLARIFY, THIS MOTION IS FOR THE EQUIPMENT TRANSPORT AND THE LIEUTENANT.

AND AN AMOUNT OF 3 21 A 62? CORRECT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS.

OH, PROCEED.

A LESS LOW, A LOT LOWER RATE THAN THE REST OF OUR CLERKS, CLERICAL STAFF THERE.

THAT'S, UH, THAT IT, THAT'S ALL OF OUR, UH, NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS.

THE ONLY OTHER, UH, THING TO DO WITH EMPLOYEES IS WE DO HAVE A, UH, A RECEPTIONIST THAT'S PAID AT, UH,

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UM, THAT WAS FINE.

BACK IN THE DAY, WHENEVER WE HAD THE CLERK OR THE RECEPTIONIST JUST ANSWERING THE PHONE AND DOING WALK UPS, TALKING TO PEOPLE.

NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SO BUSY THAT WE REQUIRE THAT POSITION TO DO A LOT OF FINANCE, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, INMATE MEDICAL, UH, PROCESSING OF POS AND STUFF TO ASSIST THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING A SMALL INCREASE OF THAT SALARY TO BRING THAT POSITION UP TO THE LEVEL OF THE REST OF OUR CLERICAL STAFF.

IS THIS ROBIN UP THERE? YES, SIR.

YOU GOT A GOOD, YOU GOT A GOOD ONE THERE.

SO WHAT ARE YOU, UH, WHAT ARE YOU PAYING HER NOW DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO? IT'S A 14% INCREASE PAY FOR SALARY 52 5 0 1.

AND THAT DOES THE OTHER SERVICE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

EVER PASS FIVE.

OH, YOU GOT A SHARP EMPLOYEE THERE WITH THE, UH, THAT THE COURT'S PERMISSION.

I, I SUGGEST WE MIGHT GO DOWN TO, UH, CONSTABLE NUMBER ONE WHO'S SITTING BACK HERE IN THE BACK.

AND OUR, OUR QUESTION, UH, CONSTABLE UH, WRIGHT IS IF, IS, IF YOUR INTENT IS TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THIS STATE FUNDING FOR THIS POSITION, I DON'T KNOW.

I NEED, UH, NOT AVAILABLE FOR IF THERE'S CRITERIA.

AND I, I, IN A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER CONSTABLE, HE SAID, WELL, I'LL BE APPLYING FOR THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A, UH, I HAVE A QUALIFYING EMPLOYEE IN MY OFFICE.

OH.

SO THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE.

AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONSTABLE, THE RURAL CONSTABLE'S OFFICE SALARY ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM PROVIDES SALARY ASSISTANCE FOR ELECTED CONSTABLES.

UM, $45,000 MINIMUM SALARY ONLY.

NO FUNDS FOR EQUIPMENT OR OTHER SUPPORTING SERVICES ARE ADDRESSED IN THE SECTION OF THE BILL.

SO I READ THAT AS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CONSTABLE THAT DID NOT MAKE THE MINIMUM OF THE 45,000, THEN YOU COULD APPLY FOR IT TO RAISE UP TO THAT MINIMUM.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER POSITION'S? THE REASON I YES, SIR.

WANT YOU UP HERE AND, AND, UH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST OF THAT POSITION FOR THE FOLKS HERE? THAT, AND THAT THAT POSITION'S, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL POSITION.

IS THAT CORRECT OR? YES.

SO THE POSITION WILL BE BUDGETED AT 69,000.

SO AGAIN, AT ABOUT 30,000 FOR BENEFITS.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 99,000 FOR THE POSITION ITSELF.

AND THEN THE, UH, CAPITAL NON CAP REQUEST IS A TAHOE, THE OUTFITTING AND A BULLETPROOF VEST, WHICH IS ANOTHER 63,709 FOR A TOTAL OF 1 77.

2 84.

HANG ON THAT YOU TOLD US.

99 AND THEN, RIGHT.

WELL, IF YOU PULL HIS SHEET, IT HAS THE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING.

SO DO YOU MIND READING THAT TOTAL? SO LIKE FOR HIS DEPARTMENT, FOR INCREASES, IT WOULD BE 1 13 575.

'CAUSE YOU WOULD BE ADDING IN A CELL PHONE AND CERTIFICATION.

SO I DID LEAVE THAT OUT.

SO THE INCREASE TO FICA AND EVERYTHING, SO THE TOTAL BE 1 13 5 75 WITH ADDITIONAL 63,709 IN THE OUTFITTING FOR A TOTAL OF 1 77.

284.

MOVE TO APPROVE THAT ITEM MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY FOR APPROVAL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION, I I HAVE A QUESTION.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS A, A LATERAL TRANSFER FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

SO I'M GOING, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION.

N THAT WAS NEVER, WHEN I REQUESTED POSITION, UH, FIRE MARSHAL, I HAD SPOKEN, AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS FOR MY MATE, THE FIRST PITCH, UH, HE WAS GETTING OVER BOMBED WITH FIRE MARSHAL BUSINESS WHERE HE NEEDED HIS PERSON FULL TIME.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WENT FORWARD WITH THE POSITION OF ENVIRONMENTAL.

UH, ONE REASON IS I'VE GOT THE BEST TRAINED FIREMAN TO TEACH WITH UNDER MY COMMAND RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.

SO THIS, THIS POSITION, IS THERE SOME SAVINGS ON THE FIRE MARSHAL LINE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL? HE WOULD KEEP THAT POSITION.

THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW POSITION.

SO THE POSITION WOULD BE SHARED WOULD BE YOUR POSITION? IT WOULD BE MY POSITION.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL, SO YOU'RE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL FOR PRECINCT ONE, ONE AND FOUR AND

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FOUR.

WITH THIS NEW OFFICER, I THOUGHT FOUR HAVE ONE.

THEY DID.

THEY'RE THEY'RE FUNDED OUTTA THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

SO MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I, I ASKED THAT SAME THING WHEN I FIRST SAW THE REQUEST.

I, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HALE.

THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.

IT WOULD BE THAT EMPLOYEE TRANSFERRING TO, TO C CONSTABLE WRIGHT.

BUT I TALKED TO SEAN HUGHES AND HE SAID NO, THAT HE, HE WANTED TO KEEP THAT EMPLOYEE AND THIS WOULD BE A, A NEW EMPLOYEE.

SO WHAT'S THE EMPLOYEE'S NEW ROLE GONNA BE IF HE'S, IF HE'S ENVIRONMENTAL INCREASING FOR WELL, IT WOULD JUST SCOPE 'CAUSE WHEN HE WASN'T DOING ENVIRONMENTAL, HE WOULD ASSIST SEAN IN.

SO THIS IS INVESTIGATION.

AND SO THIS EMPLOYEE WOULD JUST, JUST DO THAT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE REALLY JUST TAKING ON TWO, I MEAN, WE WE'RE ALREADY FUNDING ONE, BUT HIS ROLE WILL CHANGE INTO RIGHT.

HE WOULD NO LONGER DO ENVIRONMENTAL.

I WISH SEAN WAS HERE TO HELP UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT, UM, HE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK.

HE, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY HE IS OUT OF TOWN.

I DO KNOW THAT HE IS OUT OF TOWN.

SO HE HE WILL BE.

HE IS.

AND HE GAVE NOTICE OF THAT.

YEAH, WE KNOW THAT.

AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING.

UH, I JUST WISH I HAD SOME ANSWERS ON THAT ONE.

BUT WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THOSE.

I'M SURE.

I THINK HE'S AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR CLARIFICATION ON THINGS.

HE, HE, WE'LL GET THAT.

WE'LL GET THAT.

UM, SO WE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YEAH.

IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW, DOESN'T MEAN WE, WE CAN'T REACT OR ACT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS WHEN WE GET MORE INFORMATION.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR PASS.

AYE.

SO WHAT WE, UM, MANY TIMES HAVE TO DO, JUDGE, IS GO THROUGH HERE AND, AND APPROVE THINGS THAT WE, WE KNOW NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEN LET THE DUST SETTLE AND THE CALCULATORS GO TO WORK AND COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE'VE, WE'VE APPROVED THESE.

WHAT ARE THE TOTALS? WHERE ARE WE, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR IT? I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE STOP NOW, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN THE, THE UNDERSTOOD COURSE OF ACTION IN THE PAST IS THAT WE WE'RE APPROVING THINGS THAT WE DEEM YEAH.

THE MOST CRITICAL.

AND, UH, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO COME BACK LATER AND, UH RIGHT.

WE HAVE IT ADOPTED.

LET WHEN THE DUST GETS SETTLED RIGHT.

AND SEE WHERE WE ARE, UH, GET UPDATED, UPDATED STUFF.

IN THE PAST, WHAT I'VE DONE IS PROVIDE A SUMMARY WHERE TO SALARY REQUESTS, OPERATING CAP, NON CAP, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND SO FOR FRIDAY, UM, I WILL GET WITH KIM AND BECKY AND CYNTHIA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, WE HAVE BASICALLY THAT SUMMARY FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, WHAT THOSE CHANGES LOOK LIKE.

SO THE, THE MEETING ON FRIDAY THEN BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF SUBSTANCE TO IT.

UH, I'M IN, I LEAVE TOMORROW MORNING TO GO TO SAN ANTONIO FOR, FOR PROBATE AND GUARDIANSHIP TRAINING.

UM, I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO, I MEAN, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO THE EDUCATION, BUT I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO GET BACK TO THAT AND TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING, FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ON THAT END TO GET HERE.

SO, BUT YEAH, IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SINCE THEN.

I PROMISE ANYTHING, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST HERE.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW, WE MAY WANNA LET THE DUST SETTLE ON THIS AND FI FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE.

THE THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE THAT, UH, YOU WOULD LET US KNOW THE FUNDING SOURCE.

SO IF THAT'S COMING FROM GRANT FUNDING, THEN THAT'S NOT GONNA COUNT AGAINST WHERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S EXPENDITURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, UH, IT WILL BE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT WITH THE POTENTIAL GRANT MONEY, UM, FOR THE DA AND COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EASY.

IT'D BE ALL OF THAT.

DO YOU ALL HAVE A PREFERENCE AS FAR AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR YEAH.

WORK WITH THEM.

SO IT'S REAL EASY GET, IT'S REALLY HUNDRED, 500,000.

IT GIVES MUCH WE SPEND AND, AND SUBTRACT THE 500 FROM THAT.

WE'LL, WE'LL BE GOOD, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM.

'CAUSE THAT'S OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM.

AND WE'LL WORK TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO PUT IT IN A SEPARATE FUND WHEN WE BUDGET IT, RATHER THAN SITTING HERE AND SAYING, WELL, WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US A LITTLE RESET THERE AND, AND, AND LETS US KNOW WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, SINCE THE, UH, DISTRICT CLERK'S HERE, THIS MOVE TO HER MM-HMM.

PART OF THE SECTION.

BEFORE WE WRAP THAT ENTIRELY UP, AND THIS'LL TAKE JUST ONE SECOND, BRIANNA ON THAT, UH, RECEPTIONIST PAY.

WILL YOU INCLUDE THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE, PLEASE? SINCE THAT'S NOT A NEW POSITION, IT'S JUST AN INCREMENT.

THANK

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YOU.

SORRY, SENA.

THAT'S, SO WHICH ARE, WHICH TOPIC ARE WE TAKING ON? SORRY.

SO WE WERE ON THE THEME OF, UH, ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, BUT THE ITEM ON THE SCREEN SAYS A SALARY.

IT'S OKAY.

BUT ADDITIONAL YOU ADDRESS.

I JUST WANTED TO GO WHICHEVER DIRECTION THE COURT WANTED TO.

I'M A LITTLE SLOW.

WHICH, I'M SORRY, WHICH AGENDA ITEM IS THIS? YOUR ADDITIONAL, UM, SALARY, EMPLOYEE SALARY FOR THE, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS.

LET'S, LET'S DO, NOW WE'RE ON SALARY REQUESTS, SHANE.

WE'RE, WE'RE ON ADDITIONAL POSITION AND SALARY RE REQUESTS, NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS RIGHT NOW.

I JUST, SINCE WE WENT ON.

JUST WANNA STAY ON TOPIC HERE.

UM, I'VE REQUESTED TWO ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, UM, FOR OUR COURT SIDE OF OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, WHEN WE SPOKE KIND OF EARLIER IN THE SUMMER, UM, PASSPORTS WAS A QUESTION.

I RAN NUMBERS TODAY AT LUNCH AND GROSS FOR PASSPORT INCOME.

WERE AT $162,000.

UM, AND THIS LAST YEAR WE'VE HAD TO MOVE TWO EMPLOYEES IN THERE PRETTY MUCH FULL-TIME.

SO, UM, WITH THE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, I THINK THAT PASSPORTS IS GOING TO BE BRINGING IN ENOUGH FOR THE YEAR TO OFFSET, UM, WHAT THESE, WHAT THESE TWO ADDITIONAL COURT EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE DOING.

OR ESSENTIALLY PASSPORTS WOULD BE PAYING FOR ITSELF.

UM, WHAT WE NEED THESE EMPLOYEES FOR, WE'VE NEEDED THEM FOR A WHILE.

AND LIKE I TOLD YOU EARLIER IN THE SUMMER, I DIDN'T WANNA COME TO YOU IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS FOR A REQUEST FOR AN EMPLOYEE WHILE WE KIND OF LET THE DUST SETTLE ON HOW OFFERING THESE PASSPORT SERVICES WAS GONNA PLAY OUT.

UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE GOTTEN BUSIER ON THE COURT SIDE.

UH, WE'VE HAD ABOUT A FOUR-ISH PERCENT INCREASE OVER THE YEARS EACH YEAR, UM, FOR THE, THIS IS COMING FROM THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, THE, THE STATE, UM, AGENCY FOR THE PERIOD OF APRIL 22 THROUGH MARCH OF 23, WE FILED IN, UM, OVER 3,700 NEW CASES.

SO I THINK THAT THAT NUMBER IS GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW.

UM, IN MY FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO YOU ALL ABOUT THESE POSITIONS, I MENTIONED THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

UM, LEGISLATIVELY SOME, UM, A NEW BILL WAS PASSED THAT REQUIRES CLERKS TO SEND MORE DOCUMENTATION TO THE PARTIES AS THE CASE GOES ON.

AND THAT SOUNDS KIND OF WON, WON.

LIKE, WITHOUT GETTING OFF INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT THAT INVOLVES, IT IS GONNA TAKE A LOT MORE EMPLOYEE TIME TO DO THAT.

UH, BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S NOT AN EASY TECHNOLOGICAL, UM, SOLUTION TO DO THAT.

I WOULD LOVE FOR THERE TO BE.

UM, THEN AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT STATUTE, THE SUPREME COURT, UM, HAS MADE PROPOSED CHANGES TO CERTAIN RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE.

AND THAT'S IN, IN THEIR AUTHORITY THAT IS GONNA REQUIRE EVEN MORE.

IT'S GOING BEYOND WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES.

UM, THE CLERKS ARE IN ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SUPREME COURT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN EASY TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTION TO AFFECT THESE CHANGES.

UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S, AS THINGS HAPPEN, IT'S PUSHING DOCUMENTATION AND INFORMATION BACK TO THE PARTIES.

AS THAT HAPPENS, UM, I THINK IN OUR MINDS, ALL OF US THINK THERE SHOULD JUST BE A BUTTON AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND SADLY, BETWEEN ALL THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TALKING TOGETHER THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO IT, IT'S, UM, A MUCH MORE MANUAL PROCESS EVEN THOUGH THE PARTIES WILL BE RECEIVING IT ELECTRONICALLY.

SO THAT'S GONNA ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, TO WHAT WE KIND OF ALREADY ANTICIPATED OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.

UM, OUR, OUR JURY PROCESSES ARE INCREASING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COURTS TO, UM, CHECK IN THEIR JURIES AND HELP WITH THAT.

SO KIND OF IN ALL DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN OUR OFFICE, WE'VE JUST GOTTEN MORE VOLUME COMING AND THEN WITH THESE ADDITIONAL DUTIES.

SO THAT'S THE, THE BASIS FOR THAT REQUEST.

SO I JUST A QUESTION THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO.

THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY WAS HERE EARLIER AND UM, AND HAS A NEW SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT HE TELLS US IS GOING TO STREAMLINE THINGS.

UM, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUT OF TURN.

I THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR, UM, DISCOVERY OF THE INFORMATION THEY GET ALL DISCOVERY FROM IT'S ALL, ALL

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DISCOVERY.

UM, OF WHAT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY GET FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT MM-HMM.

, UH, WHAT THEY USE TO BUILD THEIR CASE AND THEN WHAT THEY HAVE TO SHARE WITH DEFENSE ATTORNEYS.

UM, AND IT'S KIND OF KEEPING THAT ALL CONTAINED IN SURE.

CONFIDENTIAL.

WE DON'T PLAY ANY PART OF THAT.

I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

I WAS JUST ASKING.

SO, UM, I THINK THE TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGES ARE COMING, BUT WITH THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS, UM, THERE'S JUST NOT A SYSTEM OUT THERE MM-HMM.

, UM, THAT MAKES IT STREAMLINED THE WAY I THINK THE SUPREME COURT IS ENVISIONING IT TO BE.

AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT MORE STEPS TO MAKE EACH ONE OF THOSE PIECES HAPPEN.

AND SO THE COST OF THOSE TWO, TWO POSITIONS, SO THE TWO EMPLOYEES WOULD BE BUDGETED AT 54,000, $40 EACH.

THE TOTAL INCREASE TO HER BUDGET WOULD BE 1 69 533, WHICH IS ABOUT A 12% INCREASE ON THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS SIDE.

UM, AND THEN HER CAP, NON CAP TO GO ALONG WITH IF BOTH POSITIONS WERE APPROVED, WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $6,086 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 1 75 6 19.

I AM GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS AT THIS TIME SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SET AND THEN AS WE'RE ABLE TO COME BACK THROUGH, SEE WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE, UH, IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL ONE.

IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH? THAT'S FAIR.

A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.

THE MOTION IS THAT HIRING ONE, UH, NOT TWO, AND THEN COME BACK AND EVALUATE ANY DISCUSSION AND WE GET ALL THE NUMBERS IN AND RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

WELL, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT OTHER THINGS ON HERE AND, AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS ARE, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY REGARDING THE, UH, BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTERS.

I THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL, UH, ADDITIONAL EXPENSES THERE.

I DROPPED THE, UH, EMPLOYEE THAT WE WANTED.

AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO GET THE LITTLE MACHINE THAT POPS THE RIMS OUT OF THE TIRES.

I BELIEVE I GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO KIM.

IT'S 25,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT YOU WROTE DOWN.

SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS THAT ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN ASKED FOR NORTH CONVENIENCE, I GUESS 51 AND SOUTH 61.

IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY EXACTLY HOW TO APPROACH THIS.

IF YOU'VE REDUCED YOURS AND I DON'T KNOW IT YET, IT'S NOT REFLECTED ON HERE OR IS IT, IS IT REFLECTED ON HERE? RIGHT.

NO, HE JUST HAD SAID THAT HE WANTED TO WITHDRAW THE REQUEST FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEE FOR FIVE 11 MM-HMM.

, AND HE WAS GONNA SWITCH IT OUT WITH A, UH, CAPITAL REQUEST OF THE TIRE MACHINE TIRE.

SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S ABOUT $30,000 CHEAPER.

WHAT THE TIRE UNDER FIVE 11? YEAH, 5 5 11.

FIVE 11.

SO YEAH, THE EMPLOYEE REQUEST FOR FIVE 11 WAS WITHDRAWN, BUT THEN FOR FIVE 13, WHICH IS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MR. LONG, THAT REQUEST STILL REMAINS.

WELL I'M THINKING HE, DIDN'T YOU TELL ME HE WAS GONNA DROP THAT OR NOT? CONVENIENCE CENTER, THE EXTRA EMPLOYEE.

SO HE'S GONNA DROP THAT AND THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN AS WELL.

SO IF YOU'LL GIVE US THE TOTAL, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE TWO REQUESTS AT THIS POINT.

THEY WITHDREW 'EM.

WITHDREW WHAT? THE ONE ABOUT THE MACHINE.

WE GOTTA MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.

OH, WITHDREW THE TWO AND REPLACED IT WITH THE MACHINE? YES, CORRECT.

I GOT TWO, UH, PART-TIME POSITION PERCENT, CORRECT? YES.

LET'S JUST MAKE THAT ONE.

WE'LL DROP ONE OF THOSE TWO.

SO YOU'RE GONNA CUT YOUR BUDGET.

WE'LL HAVE ONE FULL-TIME, CONVENIENCE AND TWO PART-TIME.

THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.

HONOR, THAT'S ALL THAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR WAS ONE FULL TIME.

YEAH, I DON'T WANNA DROP THE FULL TIME JUST WHAT I HAVE IN THERE.

SO HE IS WITHDRAWING THE REQUEST FOR FIVE 13.

YOU NEED SOME TIME TO COME THAT.

DO WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF THAT? DO WE, SO I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO RUSH.

I WAS JUST ASKING.

YEAH,

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WELL, THE, THE EXACT EXACT AMOUNT WE WON'T HAVE BECAUSE WE ADDED ENOUGH TO, TO POUR A SLAB AND THEN DO AN AWNING ON OFF THE BUILDING.

SO WE FIGURED ABOUT 25,000, MAYBE 20.

SO CAN WE MAKE A MOTION FOR AN APPROXIMATE NUMBER AT THIS TIME? YEAH.

NOT TO DO A, DO A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER, NOT TO EXCEED 25,000.

THAT'LL COVER IT.

GO AHEAD.

FOR WHAT AGAIN? FOR DEPARTMENT FIVE 11 SAID A NOT TO EXCEED TO PURCHASE TIRE MACHINE.

UHHUH TIRE POPPER, THEY CALL IT.

AND CONCRETE WORK NOT TO EXCEED 25,000.

MR. WALDEN, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MOTION IT MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY FOR DEPARTMENT FIVE 11.

AWESOME.

25,000.

NO TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED OF 25,000 FOR THE MACHINE AND CONCRETE.

BRING YOU TIRES OVER .

ALL IN FAVOR? PASS MY VOTE.

WHAT IF WE GO TO PURCHASING? I MEAN, I'M NOT PURCHASING.

WHAT IF WE GO TO IT AND SEE? WELL, ON THE EMPLOYEE REQUEST, IT ORIGINALLY REQUESTED TWO NEW EMPLOYEES.

HE, HE WITHDREW ONE AND ONE WAS ALREADY APPROVED.

SO ANY OF HIS OTHER REQUESTS WOULD BE CAPITAL.

I'LL SEE WHERE WE WERE.

UH, AS FAR AS THE, UH, ACTUAL COMPUTERS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PURCHASE AND SEE WHERE, WHERE WE ARE NUMBER WISE ON THAT.

AND DOLLAR WISE, THERE'S A WHOLE PAGE OF WE HAVEN'T, UH, WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ANY OF THAT.

NO, IT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE DID.

THERE'S A WHOLE PAGE OF THAT STUFF, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO, UM, THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR OLIVE FUND 10 WAS REDUCED BY $70,000 AND THAT'S THE 40 40 CAMERA SYSTEM, 40 SECURITY CAMERAS.

AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT HE'S REQUESTING IS $671,430.

SO MOVED ONCE, DON'T YOU MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNELL.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER? 6 7 1 4 3 0.

AND THAT INCLUDES LAPTOPS, DESKTOPS, UM, RUGGED LAPTOPS.

RUGGED LAPTOPS, THE G P S, SOME DOCKING STATIONS, ADOBE PRO LICENSES, UM, THE SERVER SWITCHES AND FORTINET EQUIPMENT FIREWALLS.

THAT'S FOR THE, THE NETWORK PD BUILDING.

PROJECTOR, AB EQUIPMENT, EXECUTIVE SESSION SOFTWARE MONITORS.

, UM, SCANNERS, MISCELLANEOUS CAMERAS, CENTRAL SQUARE STUFF.

AND THEN A DA CONTINGENCY BETWEEN THIS STUFF AND WHAT WE VOTED FOR A WHILE AGO, WE SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT SECURE.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T BE TOTALLY SECURE THAT WITH THIS, WITH THIS LIST WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S GONNA PUT PRETTY BOOKS EVERYONE OUT OF THE OLD 10 YEAR, 12 YEAR COMPUTERS TO THE NEW WINDOWS 11 AND, UH, HELP EVERYONE MOVE FORWARD.

SO YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED $180,000 OF THAT 6 71 4 30 FOR THE SERVERS.

SERVERS THE OTHER DAY.

RIGHT? THANK YOU.

THE DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.

DO WE NEED TO DO ANYMORE ON THIS? THAT'S WHAT SHE'S GONNA ADDRESS.

ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT ABOUT, WHERE ARE WE ON APPROVING THE, THE, WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACT FOR JAIL SERVICES WITH SAL.

IS THAT, THAT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET NUMBER ALREADY COVERED? IT'S ALREADY COVERED, RIGHT? WE'VE REDUCED IT AND SO I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ON THE SUMMARY.

THAT'S GOOD.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO HERE.

GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON HERE THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

UH, BUT WE MAY BE AT THE, WE MAY BE AT A POINT OF LETTING THE DUST SETTLE.

YEAH, WE HAVE THIS.

CAN WE, THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

SO TWO THINGS BEFORE WE DO BREAK, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER AGAIN, THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED, NOT JUST COUNTING FOR SETTING TAX RATES, ET CETERA, BUT JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE NUMBER OF DAYS AT THE RATE THAT WE'RE MOVING TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

CYNTHIA, YOU WANT FROM A CALENDAR PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN WE ALSO DO NEED TO HIT ON THOSE PRECINCT TWO ITEMS. JUDGE,

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WELL, AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR DIDN'T WE WRITE ON THAT YESTERDAY OR ON WHICH ONE? ALL THE SALARIES.

UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINES.

MY, MY QUESTION WAS AT THE RATE WE'RE MOVING, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH DAYS ON OUR BUDGET CALENDAR TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING WE NEED TO GET THROUGH? I'LL ANSWER THAT.

WE, WE HAVE DAYS WE JUST NEED SCHEDULED.

WE HAVE SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN THERE, CYNTHIA, IF YOU WOULD GO FOR THAT.

SO WE DO HAVE ENOUGH TIME SCHEDULED.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THE MEETING.

THE, THE ONLY THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP WERE THE DEADLINES THAT WE NEEDED TO MEET TO BE ABLE TO BE UNDER THE LOCAL CODE TO FOLLOW THE LOCAL CODE GOVERNMENT.

UM, AND THEN GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER HILL, UM, IF I'M NOT, UM, MISTAKEN, WE DO NEED, UH, A VOTE ON ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES TODAY.

TODAY THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.

WE, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT.

WE CAN REVISIT IT POSSIBLY TODAY, BUT NOT PASS TODAY.

CAN WE REVISIT IT? SURE.

IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM.

YEAH, IT'S ON THERE.

SO, OKAY.

AFTER, UM, WE CONVENE TODAY, THEN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE WILL BE PUTTING THE LETTERS TOGETHER.

UM, AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE GIVING THOSE TO THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT THEN STARTS THE GRIEVANCE TIMELINE.

AND SO AT THIS POINT IT WAS RIGHT, NO RAVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS EXCEPT FOR THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN TODAY FOR, UH, THE DA, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO NO ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY RACES ONLY FOR WHAT WAS VOTED ON TODAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AS OF 1 45.

WELL, AND THE PENDING GRIEVANCE.

AND THE NEXT THING THAT I WOULD NEED AN ANSWER FOR WOULD BE THE DATE, THE PUBLIC HEARING DATES BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 6TH AND SEPTEMBER 8TH.

I THINK IT HAS TO BE SEPTEMBER 6TH, ACCORDING TO MY CALENDAR.

WHAT DAY IS THAT EITHER WEDNESDAY? UM, THE SIXTH IS A WEDNESDAY AND THE SEVENTH THURSDAY, FRIDAY ON THE EIGHTH.

UH, HOLD ON.

YEAH, EITHER DATES FINE WITH MAY, WHATEVER Y'ALL ARE.

I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE ON THE DAYS OF HAVING TO BE NEXT WEEK AND SETTING THE DATES IS I BELIEVE, UM, SINCE THE GRIEVANCE, SINCE THE MAKEUP OF THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE WAS VOTED ON YESTERDAY TO BE MADE UP OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS LISTED AND THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I BELIEVE TWO OF THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL BE AT TRAINING THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

AND SO TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THE TIMELINE, I BELIEVE OF THE 10 DAYS AFTER NOTICE IS GIVEN IN THE EVENT NOTICE IS GIVEN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE SIXTH THROUGH THE EIGHTH ARE COMING FROM ON THOSE DATES, RIGHT? YES.

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA GO PAST THE 10TH DAY AFTER THE LETTER HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH.

COMMISSIONER HA STATED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH.

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER A WE HAVE A SECOND.

UH, A SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

I DO HAVE A 9:00 AM MEETING AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

I, I, SECOND TIME I'VE, I'VE CANCELED BEFORE.

I WORK AROUND THAT.

HAVE A THREE O'CLOCK SUBDIVISION.

NOW THAT'S JACOB.

I HAVE A THREE O'CLOCK TRANSPORTATION MEETING.

WE CAN WORK AROUND THAT.

THAT WILL WORK FOR ME.

JUDGE DEAN, YOU, UM, FROM PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES, UH, THE PUBLIC THAT WAS SELECTED FOR THE GRAND JURORS COULD ONLY BE HERE IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH WAS AFTER HOURS.

SO THAT'LL WORK FINE.

FINE.

SO IT COULD POSSIBLY BE, UH, EVENING COURT.

THAT'D BE FINE.

THAT'LL BE FINE FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M GOOD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

VOTE WHAT YOU GOT KIM? CAN I JUST GET YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR THE UPDATE FROM THAT IN THE, THE OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING TOO.

E THAT OR THE COLA THAT IS GIVEN WHICHEVER IS HIGHER.

UM, SO THE, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE PURCHASE OF TWO LAPTOPS FOR A TOTAL OF 29 32.

AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE IT RELATED EXPENSES THAT YOU ALREADY COM APPROVED.

AND THEN THE SALARY, UM, WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE THE COLA RAISES FOR MY STAFF AND THE, AND ALSO MY PART-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH A PERCENTAGE OF WHATEVER Y'ALL GET ON THAT.

AND, UM, FOR MYSELF, CURRENTLY I'M IN LINE WITH THE FOUR COUNTYWIDE, UM, OFFICES AND UM, SO THE BOARD APPROVED

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WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

IT'S JUST NOW PENDING ON THE THOSE FOUR, RIGHT? YEP.

STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THERE'S A TWO AND A HALF MINUTE, MINUTE MEETING.

SO VERY, VERY QUICK.

I WILL BRING, UM, A TOTAL ON FRIDAY FOR EVERYTHING.

'CAUSE I'M HAVING, UM, BECKY RUN NUMBERS FOR OKAY.

WHAT WAS APPROVED THIS MORNING, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PART-TIME WE DID TALK ABOUT AND GO THROUGH THE CAP, NON CAP AND THEN I HAD TWO, UM, ADDITIONAL LAPTOPS AND STUFF THE HOUR AFTER WHERE AFTER IS THE BOTTOM LINE TO KNOW WHERE WE WHERE WE'RE YES, I I'LL HAVE THAT.

ON FRIDAY.

UM, ONE ITEM THAT JUST KIND OF UNDER OUR GENERAL FUND UPDATE THAT I HAD ON A PENDING LIST FROM DURING THE, UM, BUDGET WORKSHOPS WAS IN, UM, DEPARTMENT 5 43, UH, RELATED TO THE ES E S D ONE EMERGENCY SERVICES PROTECTION.

UM, IT'S UNDER FIRE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT DUES.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN PAYING THEM 23,750.

AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE TALKED TO THEM THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WHETHER WE WOULD BE FUNDING THAT.

WELL, THE PRESIDENT GO AHEAD.

THE E S D ONE PRESIDENT OR ORIGINALLY TOLD ME THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY VOTED OVER THERE AND THEY TOOK THAT SECTION IN AND THEY'RE NOW COLLECTING MONEY OR I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY STARTED COLLECTING MONEY, BUT, UH, UH, SO I, I VISITED WITH, WITH THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL AND HE, HE TOLD ME THE SAME THING.

HE SAID THAT ORIGINALLY THAT HAD BEEN IN THERE, BUT HE REMOVED IT RIGHT FROM HIS SALARY FROM HIS, THEY'RE, NOW THEY'RE WANTING IT BACK, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT WE NEED TO, I MEAN, IT WAS VOTED ON BY THE CITIZENS TO PAY THAT 10 CENTS, BUT YET THEY STILL WANT $23,000 THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING EVERY YEAR.

AND SO, I MEAN Y'ALL, WHATEVER Y'ALL'S OPINION, BUT, UH, NEXT ITEM.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET.

I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT'S IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S BUDGET, CORRECT? CORRECT.

I, I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM PRIOR TO HIM GOING ON VACATION OR WHATEVER AND HE, HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE REMOVING THAT REQUEST FROM HIS BUDGET.

I WOULD NEED, IF I'M TAKING ANYTHING OUT, I WOULD LIKE THE APPROVAL OF COURT.

DIDN'T TAKE, TAKE IT OUT, DIDN'T TELL HE WANT IT REMOVED, BUT HE SAID THEY'RE WANTING IT.

AND I SAID, WELL, I WASN'T IN AN AGREEMENT TO GIVING IT TO HIM.

I, I SPOKE WITH HIM AS WELL BEFORE HE LEFT AND SAID THAT I, YOU KNOW, HERE WAS A PENDING ITEM I HAD, AND I KNOW HE SAID THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COURT THAT HAD SPOKEN WITH HIM.

AND SO I LET HIM KNOW THAT I WOULD BE BRINGING IT UP.

SO HE SAID HE WOULD BE REMOVING IT? MM-HMM.

CAN WE REMOVE IT NOW? I WOULD IN WRITING THAT REQUEST FROM, WELL, I MEAN HE CAN DO THAT, BUT I THINK HE IS WANTING THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT THAT YOU ALL ARE APPROVING THE REMOVAL OF THAT FROM HIS BUDGET.

HOW MANY WE, UH, THAT'S APPROVE THE REMOVAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

UM, COMMISSIONER, DID YOU MAKE THAT MOTION BEFORE SIR? YOU MADE THAT MOTION ALREADY? YES.

COMM COMMISSIONER HALES MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY, REMOVAL OF WHAT AGAIN, PLEASE? IT WAS $23,750 UNDER A CONTRACT WITH E S D ONE.

REMOVAL FROM PAST FIVE.

PAST FIVE.

OH, WHAT SIR? I, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE, UH, ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES WHERE THEY ARE, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE ANY CHANGES, CHANGES, AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE TODAY BEFORE WE LEAVE, AND WE MIGHT ALSO HAVE TIME TO DO THE, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE TODAY BEFORE WE LEAVE.

LET'S GO.

WE'RE GOOD.

WHICH ONE ARE YOU HEADED TO? WHICH ROAD AND BRIDGE? MY FAVORITE? WE WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO ROAD AND BRIDGE LATER, CORRECT? WE CAN SO, BUT ELECTED OFFICIALS HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.

IT HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.

AND YOU STILL HAVE AN ITEM HANGING OUT THERE.

WHAT YOU GOTTA DO TODAY? ON, ON, UH, ON THE PRECINCT? PRECINCT STUFF.

DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

I ABOUT THAT.

WELL, WE GOT JOHN IN THERE THOUGH.

YOU WANT ME TO POKE MY HEAD IN THERE? NO, IT'S A, IT'S A PROPERTY.

SO WHAT Y'ALL HAVE, UH, YOU'RE JUST CALLING THE BOND ON THE PRECINCT STUFF ON A FEW ROADS, BUT WE NEED JOHN IN HERE TO DO THAT WITH US.

HE WON'T BE, HE WON'T BE MUCH LONGER.

HE WHAT? HE WON'T BE MUCH LONGER.

SO ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? WE HEAR THAT TODAY.

GOT A VERY SUBSTANTIAL RAISE LAST YEAR, AND IN LIGHT OF HOW CONSTRAINED OUR BUDGET IS, I FEEL LIKE OURS SHOULD STAY THE SAME.

UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THE COMMISSIONER'S

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THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I THOUGHT WE ALREADY VOTED TO LEAVE 'EM THOUGH.

WE DID.

I'M JUST SAYING IF ANYBODY'S GONNA CHANGE IT, NOW'S THE TIME.

I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS.

NEXT.

I THINK THAT SPEAKS FOR EVERYONE.

I THINK, I THINK COMMISSIONER HOLT WOULD LIKE TO DO ROAD AND BRIDGE AT A LATER TIME.

SO THAT LEADS US DOWN TO, I CAN DO ROAD AND BRIDGE TODAY.

I JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE BEFORE WE DO THE PRECINCT TWO STEP, BUT WE'LL WITH JOHN ON THAT.

UH, HE'LL, I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

ABOUT ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.

LET'S GO TO, SORRY, CAN I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT? SURE.

SO YESTERDAY WHEN THE VOTE WENT TO ZERO FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES, I WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY? I'M GONNA TAKE WHAT ALL OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES DO, BUT THIS MORNING I SAT HERE AND I WATCHED Y'ALL GIVE A SUBSTANTIAL RAISE TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO I RESPECT VERY MUCH.

I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT A LOT OF THAT DECISION WAS MADE BY SAVINGS HE MADE, YOU KNOW, TO OFFSET THE COST.

SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT AGAIN, HOWEVER, TWO YEARS I HAVE CUT $135,000 FROM THE BUDGET DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY TAXPAYER, DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT SAVINGS ISN'T CONSIDERED PAYING FOR THE RAISES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE RAISE BECKY MCCALL'S SALARY BY $10,000.

I'D LIKE TO DO THESE ONE BY ONE.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

FOUR ONE.

SOMETIMES, BECKY, WE, WE DON'T LOOK AT SPECIFICS OF EACH DEPARTMENT, PROBABLY LIKE WE SHOULD AND LOOK AT THE SAVINGS AND, UH, WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

AND YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY TAKEN ON TWO ROLES.

AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP TO THIS COURT.

WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, IT'S YOUR DECISION.

I RESPECT YOUR DECISIONS, I RESPECT COURTS, BUT THAT SAVINGS WOULD COVER THOSE OTHER THREE POSITIONS AS WELL.

THOSE LADIES HAVE OFFICES MUCH BIGGER THAN MINE.

THEY BRING IN REVENUE TO THIS COUNTY THAT FUNDS THEIR OFFICES AND THEIR SALARIES AS WELL AS FUNDS, GENERAL FUND, ROAD AND BRIDGE.

OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

MY OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF THAT THEY DO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE INTEREST THAT WE MAKE, THAT FOR DECISIONS THAT I MAKE, THAT ALSO ARE REVENUE SOURCES TO GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS ROAD.

ROAD AND BRIDGE CAN BE CONSIDERED AS A REVENUE STREAM FOR MY OFFICE AS WELL.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT I DO ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER FOR THEM AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE.

I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S POSITION.

NOTED.

PROBABLY SHOULDN'T MAKE THIS SPEECH, BUT I'M GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB IN MY PRECINCT TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.

AND I'VE GOTTEN GRANTS WELL OVER $5 MILLION SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE, AND IT'S HEADED UPWARD FROM THERE.

BUT THAT'S MY JOB TO DO.

ALRIGHT? IT'S MY JOB TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY AND, AND TURN THAT BACK.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR POSITION.

THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT EVERYBODY, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB BY SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE HERE.

AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR MORE MONEY BECAUSE I'M ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'M PROUD TO DO FOR MY PRECINCT, BUT IT'S MY JOB TO DO THAT.

SO LET ME, LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER WALDEN ON THAT.

AND THAT, UH, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, IT WAS PROBABLY A BIT ABOUT, WHICH IS STATE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SUBSIDY IS 40% OF THE, THE COUNTY JUDGE TO HAVE A JUDICIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND PROBABLY EXCEEDING CLOSE TO 60% BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S PROBABLY 300% GROWTH IN MENTALS.

UH, WHERE THE GROWTH IN PROBATE HAS BEEN ASTRONOMICAL ALONG WITH THE, UM, GUARDIANSHIPS IS, IS IS JUST OFF THE CHARTS.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN, I DON'T WANNA SAY MANDATED, BUT BY JUDGE HERMAN WHO IS OVER PROBATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, HAS REQUIRED THAT US MOVE TO TWO AUDITORS.

WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE SHIFT IN REALIGNMENT WITH, WITH SOME SAVINGS AND GOING, SOME OF THE PLANNING GOING TO RICH AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, WE'RE GONNA ABSORB THAT WE'RE NOT BEHIND, WE'RE DOING FINE.

UM, BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA GONNA HAVE TO MEET THAT NEED DOWN THE ROAD AND THE COURT NEEDS TO BE PREPARED THAT AS THIS COUNTY GROWS, SO GOES THE JUDICIAL PROCESS.

AND SO WE'RE KEEPING UP AND WE'RE DOING JUST FINE, BUT, UM, UH, WE JUST GOT AUDITED AND IT WAS EXEMPLARY WITH

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UM, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS A TIME COMING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT NEED.

SO THE COURT NEEDS TO BE, BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

IT COULD BE A YEAR, IT COULD BE THREE YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO, BUT I DO COMMEND MY STAFF FOR COMING TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER, CROSS TRAINING, DOING SOME THINGS TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.

AND IT'S WORKED WELL.

AND ALSO I'VE COORDINATED WITH JOHN PORRES ON USING ONE OF HIS, ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES THAT WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE A CASEWORKER OR INVESTIGATOR.

AND SO WE'RE SHARING, WE'RE GONNA SHARE AN EMPLOYEE TO DO THAT.

AND SO IT'S NOT A FULL-TIME JOB, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE SHARING THAT WITH THE, UH, BECKY, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF YOU ON MS. GENTRY AND HER, UH, INCREASE THAT HER OFFICE IS SEEING? UM, I BELIEVE SHE PRESENTED THAT THE STATE SAID SHE SHOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL SIX EMPLOYEES.

AND SO SHE, BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT 'EM, SO HER REQUEST WAS TO MOVE A PART-TIME TO A FULL-TIME, WHICH WAS ABOUT $22,000.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT ITEM MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT FOR THE DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT WAS FOR WHAT AGAIN? 22 2 47.

22,247 FOR DEPARTMENT 4 99.

AND WAS THAT TWO A PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION? AND SHE IS ALSO ONE OF THE YES.

FOLKS LAST YEAR WHO WAS A PART OF THE GRIEVANCE, CORRECT? SHE ACTUALLY DID NOT GO TO GRIEVANCE.

SHE DID NOT GO TO GRIEVANCE BECAUSE COURT APPROVED HER TWO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND A DRIVE THROUGH.

SO SHE PULLED BACK HER REQUEST FOR GRIEVANCE OUT OF RESPECT TO WHAT HER OFFICE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED.

SO DO YOU MIND, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US HERE, REPEATING WHO THE FOLKS WHO WERE INVOLVED LAST YEAR WERE THE DISTRICT CLERK, THE COUNTY CLERK, AND THE TREASURER? LAST YEAR'S TREASURER.

ANYTHING ELSE? NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS THE PRECINCT TWO.

YEAH, I, I'M SORRY, I'M TYPING AND LOOKING AT ONE THING YOU SAID THE DISTRICT CLERK.

THE COUNTY CLERK, AND WHO ELSE? THE CURRENT TREASURER.

WELL, THE PREVIOUS TREASURER.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE INCREASE THE PAY TO BY 10,000 PER THE REQUEST FOR SERENA GILLAND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ITEM? I'LL SECOND IT TO GO TO THE DISCUSSION.

UH, A SECOND'S BEEN MADE BY MYSELF.

JACOB, YOU WANNA ADD? YEAH, I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S VERY EASY FOR ME LOOKING AT THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSIONER TO SEE WHAT THE GROWTH HAS DONE AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENTS TO THE ROADS AND, YOU KNOW, THE, HOW BEAT UP THEY ARE AND HOW MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THERE IS AND ALL OF THAT.

HOW I'VE GOTTA ASSUME THAT THE FOOT TRAFFIC BASED OFF OF THE NUMBERS THAT I'M SEEING IS INCREASING AT A SIMILAR AMOUNT IN THESE PEOPLE'S OFFICES AND THE NUMBER OF ISSUES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

WE SAW THAT WITH PASSPORTS.

WE SAW THAT WITH HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY MORE AUTO REGISTRATION ISSUES THAT, UH, MS. GENTRY INDICATED SHE HAD.

SO I THINK THAT WITH THIS LEVEL OF ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY, UM, AND, AND COMMISSIONER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING LAST YEAR TO THE EFFECT, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M QUOTING SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM YOU A YEAR AGO, SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE, I'M GONNA MISQUOTE YOU, SO PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A PAY SCALE THAT INCENTIVIZES US HAVING THE VERY BEST EMPLOYEES THAT WE CAN HAVE AND TO KEEP THE VERY BEST EMPLOYEES THAT WE CAN HAVE.

AND AGAIN, IF I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT APPLIES TO THIS, HOWEVER, BUT I I DID SAY THAT PROBABLY YES.

UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS OR LARGE SCALE OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS.

UM, SO IN, IN THIS CASE, I FEEL LIKE FOR MS. GILLAND AND MS. GENTRY, GIVEN,

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TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE TAKING ON RADICALLY MORE WORK IN A VERY COMBINED SPACE WITH LOWER THE NUM LOWER THAN A, UH, RECOMMENDED LEVEL OF EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW, NOT TO STAND ON A SOAPBOX FOR TOO LONG, BUT CAN I ANSWER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? SO I'M ASKING FOR A $10,000 RAISE FOR BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS.

LET ME, LET ME ADD TO THAT IF I MAY.

UM, SENA GILIAN, THE DISTRICT CLERK CAME TO MY OFFICE AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT THE IDEA, TOTALLY HER IDEA ABOUT STARTING THE PASSPORT BUSINESS AND UM, THAT WAS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THE POST OFFICE AND I THINK THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, BUT BROUGHT IT TO THE COURT, REALLY WASN'T RECEIVED ALL THAT GRADE BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA USE SPACE.

AND SPACE IS A VERY VALUABLE COMMODITY, BUT SHE SHOWED SOME LEADERSHIP IN THERE THAT IT JUST TOOK TO CHAMPION THAT PROJECT AND LOOK AT IT TODAY.

LOOK WHAT IT'S, LOOK WHAT IT'S GENERATED AND THEN IT'S OBVIOUSLY PUT A STRAIN ON HER STAFF.

SHE DIDN'T ASK FOR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR.

SAME THING AS BECKY.

IT, IT NO DIFFERENT AT ALL.

SO I THINK IF YOU HOLD THE STANDARD TO WHAT YOU, YOU'VE DONE HERE WITH THE TREASURER, I THINK I CERTAINLY, UM, THINK THAT THAT SHOULD APPLY AS WELL TO THE DISTRICT CLERK.

SO I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

COULD I SAY SOMETHING HERE? IT, I GOTTA SPEAK ALSO FOR LILA.

UM, I SEE WHAT SHE DOES EVERY DAY.

BOTH COURTS AND COURT LAW COURT TOO.

PROBATE AND RECORDS AND NEEDS.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT.

WE WILL, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT.

LIKE, TO ADD HER TO THAT.

NOT OBVIOUSLY I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT JENNY ON, I JUST, SHE HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB IN THAT, IN HER POSITION OF WE'VE SEEN SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN RECORDS AND DEEDS AND REFURBISHING BOOKS AND ALL OF HER EMPLOYEES AND BOTH COURTS AND PROBATE.

AND SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB.

AND I THINK NO ONE ON THIS EARTH DESERVES IT MORE THAN SHE DOES.

AND HONESTLY, I I DON'T MEAN THAT LIKE TRYING TO SUCK THEM UP OR ANYTHING, BUT, WELL, THEY'RE ALL DOING THEIR JOB.

THE MOTION.

THE MOTION, THE MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED IF I READ THAT CORRECTLY, UH, TO UM, INCLUDE DISTRICT CLERK, SERENA GILIAN, COUNTY CLERK, WHO IS LALA DLE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND JENNY GENTRY AND JENNY GENTRY, WHO IS THE TAX ASSESSOR AS WELL AS, I'M SORRY, THE THREE SERENA GILLAND.

JENNY GENTRY LI EAGLE.

CORRECT? YES.

SO YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR MOTION.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN CHANGED AND THE SECOND APPROVES WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? I I WANNA ADD ONE THING.

I PUT A COUNTER OF AIDS, THE AVERAGE PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR PER DAY AND WHEN WE HAD FOUR IT WAS THAT ALL GIVE SOME ABOUT, SO YOU'RE SAYING ROUGHLY THERE'S A 50% INCREASE IN FOOT TRAFFIC.

SIX 50 TO A THOUSAND.

WELL, WHEN THEY, MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE GO TO .

I DUNNO WHAT THE ACCOUNT, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB THAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO.

WE'RE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO IF OR IF THERE'S ANY COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS, WOULD THAT BE ADDED ON TOP OF THIS? IT WOULD.

PARDON? IT WOULD, IT WOULD, WELL THAT WAS FOR NON ELECTED.

WE HAVEN'T DONE A COLA FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND THESE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, CORRECTION COLA.

IN IN, IN INVOLVES ONLY NON-ELECTED.

NON-ELECTED.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR I.

MOTION PASSES THREE, TWO.

DO WE WANT TO, I'M JUST WANT IT OUT.

DO WE WANT TO GO TO I MILE ON THE ROAD BRIDGE AND TRY TO DAB INTO THAT? I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD GET IT STARTED.

AT LEAST WE WERE IN ITEM I ON THE ROADIN BRIDGE ALLOCATION.

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WHY DON'T WE GO BACK

[7.C. Discuss/Vote on proposed elected officials salaries. (Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]

TO ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I, SINCE WE JUST VOTED DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID THE OTHER DAY AND NOW WE GAVE FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS A RAISE.

FIVE, SIX ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YOU COUNT THE OTHER TWO.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, GIVE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS A 3% RAISE.

OKAY, WE'RE ON, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE SAYING ITEM C DISCUSSED VOTE ON PROPOSED ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.

IS THAT RIGHT, COMMISSIONER? YEAH.

AND YOUR MOTION IS, SAY AGAIN TO GIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS A 3% RAISE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I WANNA ASK YEAH, FOR CLARIFICATION, IF THEY'VE RECEIVED A RAISES, WILL THEY NOT GET THE 3%? AND THEN FROM JOHN'S STANDPOINT AND THE DA, JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, 'CAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS AFTER I THIS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY PREVIOUSLY AND HE SAID IF THERE WAS A COLOR RAISE, HE WOULD, HE DID NOT WANT THAT.

THAT'S, YEAH.

NOR SHOULD THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY RECEIVE THAT EITHER.

NOTED.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SO WHAT'S THE MOTION? ARE WE LEAVING THOSE OFF? LEAVE THOSE TWO OFF.

THAT'S WHAT THEIR WISHES ARE.

AND THEN THE, THE EVERYBODY ELSE, THE FOUR THAT WE'RE JUST GIVEN INCREASES, THOSE WOULD BE TO THE SIDE.

SO IT'D BE FOR SET ASIDE ALL OTHERS, THEY WOULD BE SET ASIDE AS WELL THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAY IT'S, IT'S CLEAR RIGHT? FOR THE MINUTES.

MOTION.

THE SECOND IS, UM, BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

UH, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MY REASONING FOR THAT, IF, UH, IS IF THERE'S THREE HERE THAT THINK THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY TO GIVE THOSE $10,000, WELL THEN THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL TO GET A COST OF LIVING RAISE.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION.

C C L JUDGES WE'RE LOOKING AT 61,000 9 0 8 TAX.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? Y'ALL MIND IF I RUN SOME, RUN SOME MATH ON IT REAL QUICK? CALL THE VOTE JUDGE.

UH, WAIT ON, I'M WAITING ON COMMISSIONER HALL.

THIS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $39,000.

200? YEAH, IF I'VE DONE THE MATH RIGHT, SOMEWHERE AROUND $40,000.

YOU'RE SAYING $40,000.

APOLOGIES.

NO, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

OH, AND I NEED TO LOOK AT, LET'S SEE, UM, ABOUT 60 2001 QUESTION WOULD BE, OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE C C L JUDGES, WHICH IS SET MAXIMUMS AND MINIMUMS BY STATUTE.

AND SO OUR, UH, CCL TWO IS ALREADY AT THAT MAX.

UM, HOWEVER THE CCL ONE IS NOT.

SO I, WE ALWAYS ASK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT TO SPECIFICALLY MENTION THOSE.

UM, KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THAT IN CLARIFICATION IS IF CCL ONE JUDGE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AT THE MAX SALARY, WOULD THEY THEN ALSO RECEIVE THE 3% AND THAT 3% WOULD NOT MAX THEM OUT? I ALWAYS, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO, TO MENTION THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE, IF, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF THAT INCLUDES CCL ONE, THE FOUR CONSTABLES, THE FOUR JPS, UH, THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS, COUNTY JUDGE, AND THE SHERIFF, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID WE EVER GET THE NUMBER OF WHAT THAT WE WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW.

SOMEWHERE AROUND 60,000 AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS.

SO 60,000 IS A 3% BUMP TO READ IT OFF BY MY MATH ON THIS ACCORDING TO CURRENT F Y 23 TOTAL SALARY.

SO THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF LIKE AUTO INCREASE OR AUTO SUPPLEMENT, ET CETERA.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE JUDGE.

THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS, THE TAX ASSESSOR, THE FOUR JPS, THE FOUR CONSTABLE, AND BOTH

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BUT YOU SAID TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT OUT TAX, TAX ASSESSOR COMES OUT, UH, TAX ASSESSOR.

DID I SAY TAX ASSESSOR? I APOLOGIZE.

TAX MOTION.

SO WHAT I'VE GOT IN HERE IS COUNTY JUDGE, THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS AND THE SHERIFF.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE FOUR JPS, THE FOUR CONSTABLES, AND BOTH CCLS, IT WOULD JUST BE CCL ONE BECAUSE THE CCL TWO JUDGE IS MAXED OUT BY STATUTE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE SAME.

SO THE C C L JUDGES ARE BASED OFF OF LONGEVITY.

UM, AND SO THE CCL ONE JUDGE WOULD, THIS IS HIS FIRST TERM.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BE BUDGET AT THE MAXIMUM, BUT IT'S NOT PAID AT THE MAXIMUM.

GOTCHA.

WE'RE TALKING 56,000 ISH, 5 6, 106, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

AND IS THAT CORRECT THAT YOU WOULD APPLY IT ACROSS THE BOARD? EVEN A LONGEVITY? DO YOU USE THE TOTAL OR DO YOU USE THE BASE SALARY? WE USE THE BASE SALARY BASED OFF OF IT.

ALRIGHT, GIMME JUST A SECOND.

SO NOT THE AUTO SUPPLEMENT.

49,002 13.

TRADITIONALLY IT'S JUST BASED OFF OF THE BASE SALARY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? NO, I'M, I'M SORRY.

CAN I REVERSE MOTION PASSES? THREE, TWO.

UH, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, I JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM SEAN S UH, NEVER INTENDED TO GIVE UP RANDY'S POSITION.

WE'VE GOTTEN MUCH BUSIER ON THE FIRE MARSHAL SIDE.

I NEED THAT FULL-TIME POSITION.

I LEFT IT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE I NEED IT.

AND RAY SAID HE'D GIVE UP THE REQUEST IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE RANDY, PLEASE CALL IF NEEDED.

WHEN'S HE GONNA BE HERE? HE'S OUT OF TOWN.

HE'S ON VACATION.

I KNOW WHEN NEXT WEEK SOMETIME.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT IN COURT.

UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL.

TO GO TO ITEM I ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION.

UH, I WANT

[7.I. Discuss/Approve Road and Bridge fund 50 and Precincts funds 1-4 for 2023-2024 fiscal year. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE USE THE FORMULA OF 50% ROAD MILES, 50% TAX BASE WITH THE INCLUSION OF, UH, $500,000 TO PRECINCT ONE, $500,000 TO PRECINCT FOUR, UH, TO COME FROM GENERAL FUND.

AND I, I WISH WE COULD DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT I DON'T SEE A WAY TO DO THAT.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE? SO JUST, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND, LAST YEAR IT WAS A MILLION SPLIT EVENLY THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING 500.

LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO PUT, UH, A MILLION DOLLARS INTO EACH OF OUR BUDGETS.

CORRECT? 1 MILLION EACH OF OUR BUDGETS ALLOTMENT FROM THE FROM FUND BALANCE, WHICH TOTAL OF 4 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND.

OF REVENUE, RIGHT? TAX RATE OR GOING OUT FOR DEBT TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS, THAT'S TWO WAYS.

AND THIS YEAR YOUR MOTION IS SAME FORMULA, IGNORING THE 1 MILLION EACH.

DOING 500 FOR BOTH OF THEM, RIGHT? THAT SOUNDS, YEAH.

SO NO REMOVAL.

AND SO THE FORMULA, UM, HAS BEEN STATED.

UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM BEFORE REV REMOVAL? WELL, I'M, I'M SAYING WE'RE NOT TAKING TIME.

WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING WE'RE ADDING TO.

AND I, AND I WISH THAT WE HAD, AND MAYBE BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WE WILL HAVE, BUT FOR TODAY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WE COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO, OBVIOUSLY I SECONDED THAT, UH, PRECINCT FOUR WAS IMPACTED PRETTY HEAVILY THIS YEAR BY, UH, THE REDISTRICTING, SORRY, YOU HAD TO GET OUR MONEY BACK AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE HAVING MAJOR BUDGET CUTS THAT ARE A LOT LESS THAN WHAT YOU HAD TO WORK WITH PRIOR YEAR, UH, THIS WILL AT LEAST THE, IF, IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS, IT WOULD AT LEAST GET ME BACK TO THE SAME BUDGET I HAD THIS YEAR.

AND THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ANY ACCOUNT ON THE INFLATION THAT WE'VE SEEN ON ALL THESE ROAD AND BRIDGE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO BUY.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS MONEY GO.

SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THAT'S WHY I SECOND THIS.

WE'RE READY TO VOTE.

COMMISSIONER COMMENT, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, LET'S DO IT IF I'M ABLE, IF, UH, BEFORE SHE CHANGES OUR MIND OR I JUST, I HAVE TO SAY, I MEAN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAX RATE AND GENERAL FUND AND WHAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ROAD AND BRIDGES HAS HAD, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS THAT GENERAL FUND GETS MONEY TAX RATE.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE SAYING SOURCES

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SO THE MOTION IS TO TAKE 500,000 FROM GENERAL FUND.

SO AGAIN, JUST WANNA BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT'S ACTUALLY 1,000,500 THOUSAND FOR THOSE 2 MILLION OH, SORRY.

EACH TWO.

OKAY, WELL THEN LET, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS PART ROAD AND BRIDGE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S THE, IF THE BOND GOES THROUGH, THERE'S THOSE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS MM-HMM.

, THERE'S STILL 4 MILLION OF DISCRETIONARY FUNDS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED AND THERE'S ALSO A ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX RATE.

SO BY ADJUSTING THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX RATE, YOU CAN GENERATE THAT ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS WITHOUT IMPACTING GENERAL FUND.

GENERAL FUND CANNOT SUSTAIN YEAR AFTER YEAR HAVING TRANSFERS AND BEING ABLE TO OPERATE.

I BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE ABOUT RAISING THE ROAD AND BRIDGE BACK TO 7 CENTS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, I, YES, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTING THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX RATE, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS, AND WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION, BUT THE, JUST AS WITH THE M AND O, THE TAX RATE IS CALCULATED EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

SO EVERY SINGLE YEAR THAT TAX RATE IS GOING TO CHANGE BASED OFF OF ALL THE FACTORS WE TALKED ABOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, YOUR TAXABLE VALUE.

SO AS YOUR TAXABLE VALUES INCREASE, YOUR RATES COMPRESSED.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS RIGHT, HAVING A A DECREASE ON THE RATE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S A DECREASE TO REVENUE.

WE SEE THE INFLUX OF REVENUE.

SO AGAIN, IF WE GO BACK TO THIS BY EVEN SAY FOR $551,000 MORE DIRECTLY INTO ROAD AND BRIDGE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IT'S $2 FOR A TAXPAYER.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WHEN WE SEE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THE PROJECTS, WE NEED A FUND.

EVEN IF THOSE GET PUSHED OFF TO ANOTHER YEAR, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA GO AWAY.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE PROJECTS AND THE COST OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE GONNA INCREASE.

SO JUST AS ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE COMING UP HERE AND THEY HAVE NEEDS, I REALIZE THAT, SO DO YOU ALL, BUT THERE'S A WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT WITHOUT TAKING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

I THINK, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I DON'T HAVE ROAD AND BRIDGE RESPONSIBILITY.

I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO, UH, UH, IF, IF Y'ALL ARE, ARE ARE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND THEN I WILL SUPPORT THAT.

UM, BUT JUST FROM A FACT BASED WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TRAFFIC, THESE, THESE COMMISSIONERS ARE TASKED WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

AND, AND SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND I, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ROAD AND BRIDGE, BUT IF, IF I WAS A COMMISSIONER AND I CERTAINLY HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY, I WOULD TAKE IT AS PASSIONATELY AS THEY WOULD AND HAVE THOSE NEEDS.

I'M NOW JUST, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE TO, UH, WE ARE SOMEWHAT IN A POSITION WITH, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'VE BEEN RE REMOVED, ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR, TO MAINTAIN THESE ROADS.

I WISH THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE HERE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, UH, AND CONSIDER, AND I'M, I'M JUST FACTUALLY SPEAKING, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE A POSITION, UH, ON ANY PARTICULAR PRECINCT, BUT I JUST, I'M A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THE REMOVAL OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT AGAIN, UH, AS WELL.

SO, SO SO ARE WE, AND, AND WE CAN, WE CAN AFTER THE FACT DETERMINE WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCE IS FOR, BUT FOR TODAY, BUT FOR TODAY, UH, THE MOTION IS TO TAKE IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT FUND BALANCE.

I MEAN I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WAS NOT, YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND THAT'S WHY IT IS THREE LEGAL TAX RATES THAT HAVE THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR THEM.

AND EVEN NOW, WHEN I'VE EXPLAINED THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE, I KEEP A SPREADSHEET AND WORK WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL FOR GENERAL FUND CANNOT BE USED FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THE UNUSED FOR INCREMENTAL FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE CANNOT BE USED FOR GENERAL FUNDS.

SO WE CALCULATE THAT SEPARATELY.

SO AGAIN, AT THE HIGHEST TAX RATE, IF YOU WERE GONNA DO IT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE USING THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE, UM, IT WOULD CHANGE IT BY A PENNY GENERATING A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION.

AND THE IMPACT PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS $10.

SO AS AN AVERAGE HOMESTEAD BEING 333, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $33 INCREASE A YEAR ON THAT ONE.

THAT'S THE CAP.

IF YOU WANTED TO GENERATE A MILLION DOLLARS MORE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TAKE IT FROM GENERAL FUND, THEN YOU ADJUST YOUR RATE TOO.

WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT IT, BUT LET'S GO ON WITH THIS FOR NOW.

WELL, WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF, OF A VOTE, SO, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SO I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WALDEN

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THAT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

UM, AND SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS RIGHT NOW.

AS THE COURT IS AWARE, IF YOU CAN READ THE NUMBERS.

OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UH, PRECINCT TWO HAS HISTORICALLY HAD SOME OF THE LEAST FUNDING AND WE'RE PLAYING SOME CATCH UP WITH THAT.

WE'VE HAD THE MOST ROAD MILES FOR A WHILE.

AND SO WHILE I'M FINE WITH, UH, FINE WITH TAKING THIS APPROACH TODAY, THIS IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO REVISIT AGAIN AFTER MORE DUST SETTLES TO USE OUR LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE USED SO FAR TODAY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT WE NEED MORE MONEY.

OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I THINK IT NEEDS FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT DISAGREEING OR AGREEING.

I JUST, I JUST, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE ON US.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TOGETHER AND UM, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO JUST LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER AND, AND IF THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE, UH, WHEN WE COME BACK AND I THINK THAT'S A PRUDENT MOVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

UH, THEN I WILL SUPPORT THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS FURTHER DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER HOLT, AS YOU SAID, WE'RE, DO THAT BUT ABSTAIN IT AS A NO VOTE.

SO, UH, THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, TODAY, YES.

UNTIL WE DISCUSS IT FURTHER AND, AND CLARIFY OUR OVERALL, JUST LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL GLOBAL FINANCIAL POSITION, IT'S A BIT SENSITIVE SINCE WE'VE TAKEN OUT 8 MILLION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THERE'S OTHER NEEDS.

I JUST THINK WE JUST, IF THAT DISCUSSION COMES DOWN TO IT AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT Y'ALL GO FOR A FINAL VOTE, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT AND SUPPORT THAT.

BUT I THINK IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION.

B, PRECINCT TWO, ITEM SIX ON THE EXTEND THE LADDER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR AMBER MEADOWS, PHASE TWO FOR SIX MONTHS IN PRECINCT TWO.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE.

WE ADJOURN.

WE NEED, YEAH, WE GOT ISSUES.

GO DO THOSE BONDS.

WE'RE FIXING LEAVE WITH THAT.

DID YOU HEAR, DID ADJOURN VOTE OR THE GOOD THING YOU CAME CAME IN JOHN? BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO REMIND THE JUDGE THAT THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRANSPORTATION IN PARK COUNTY, , MAYBE WATER, WATER, WATER, ACTUALLY.

ALL RIGHT, JOHN, WE'RE WAITING ON YOU.

SO CALL THE, OKAY, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS DOWN TO ITEM

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I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE CALL THE THREE BONDS IN QUESTION FOR AMBER MEADOWS.

SO YOU'RE DOING ALL THREE? CORRECT.

SO WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M MOVED ITEMS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ITEMS SEVEN ALSO AND EXTEND THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR AMBER MEADOWS PHASE THREE FOR SIX MONTHS IN PRECINCT TWO.

WE'LL ADD A ITEM EIGHT TO THIS, EXTEND THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR AMBER ROME MEADOWS.

PHASE SIX.

WE ARE NOT EXTENDING THE LETTER OF CREDIT, WE'RE CALLING THEM FOR SIX MONTHS IN PRECINCT THREE.

SO YOUR MOTION WILL COVER ALL THREE.

I'M, I'M COVERING THOSE THREE MOTIONS, BUT WE ARE NOT EXTENDING THE LETTER OF CREDIT, WE'RE CALLING THE LETTER OF CREDIT.

WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT.

THOSE FUNDS, THEY'RE CALLED BONDS, JOHN.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHATEVER THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE AGENDA IS.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE AGENDA.

SO TECHNICALLY IF WE DON'T EXTEND IT AND WE CALL IT AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT.

YOU GOTTA CALL, YOU'VE GOTTA NOTIFY THEM WHEN YOU'RE CALLING.

SO WHAT YOU'RE JUST SAYING TODAY IS YOU'RE TAKING NO ACTION ON IT, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EXTEND IT.

AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA CALL IT NO ACTION.

ACTION.

I THINK THAT DID THE CORRECT WAY TO DO EITHER NO ACTION.

I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT IN A COURT.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION.

SO, UM, SUGGESTING WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THOSE THREE ITEMS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO CALL THOSE.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, JOHN? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, UM, BACK TO YOUR MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER, I MOVE, WE ADJOURN.