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MORNING.LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS NOT, IT'S
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10:00 AM AT THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF BUDGET AGENDA.LET THE RECORD SHOW WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE PRESENT.
[I. CONSENT]
MOVE TO ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023, WHO CONSIDERED DISCUSS, ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS UNDER ITEM ONE, CONSENT MEMBER, THE COURT MAY ASK FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM LIST.IS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT? NONE.
THERE, THERE ARE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS UNLESS WE ALL HAVE OKAY.
ITEM A ONE, UH, BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.
BRIANNA, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON ITEM A ONE? OKAY.
HOW DO YOU THINK WE DID? IF THERE WASN'T, WE NORMALLY HAVE IT.
MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE FOR APPROVAL.
UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY HAS MADE A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR MAKING SURE THAT WAS FOR APPROVAL.
UH, THE LINE ITEM ADJUSTMENTS ON A ONE ITEM B ITEM, I'M SORRY.
[II.A. Authorization to cancel AT&T contract. ]
A AUTHORIZATION OF CANCEL AT T CONTRACT.KIM, I'M JUST REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COURT TO SEND A, A LETTER OF CANCEL A 30 DAY NOTICE CANCELLATION LETTER TO AT AND T FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE, UM, LINES THAT WE HAVE PORTED OVER TO THE NEW SYSTEM.
VERY WELL, COMMISSIONER, I ALSO MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S MADE THE SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
[II.B. Approve and authorize the execution of Mid-Continental Restoration Co., Inc. for work to be performed on the exterior and interior of the Parker County District Courts Building.]
AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF MID CONTINENTAL RESTORATION COMPANY, INCORPORATED FOR WORK TO BE FORMED ON THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR OF THE PARKER COUNTY DISTRICT COURTS BUILDING.YEAH, I'M SORRY, THIS IS FOR THE FOUR 15TH.
THE INSIDE, UM, CARPET, PAINT, NEW LIGHTS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'LL BE PAID OUT OF MY MAINTENANCE LINE, BY THE WAY.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY COMMISSIONER COLLINS MADE THE MOTION WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT IN DISCUSSION PHASE THAT NOT JUST BE PART OF YOUR, YOUR BUDGET ON MAINTENANCE, GENERAL MAINTENANCE OR YES.
IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THAT'S LIKE INTENSIVE OR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE TO IT FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? GENERAL MAINTENANCE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CORRECT.
IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZED JOB TO GET DONE WITH THE TIME ALLOTTED.
THE, UH, COURT HAS, HAS DEDICATED TWO WEEKS FOR THAT, SOMETIME BACK FOUR 15TH AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CREW TO GET ON AND GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT LARGE PROJECT DONE.
CONTINENTAL'S ON THE CHOICE PARTNERS AND STUFF, SO.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE VOTE.
ITEM THREE, I'M DISCUSS THE APPROVED GENERAL FUND.
WHAT IS THIS? OH, THAT NEEDS BE SIGNED.
WHERE AT? WHICH ONE? RIGHT HERE.
YOU JUST GO GET, GO GET IT FROM RICH, RICH TO THE OFFICE.
ITEM THREE ON ITEM, UH, DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 23, 24, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ITEM A DISCUSSED PROPOSED.
LET'S HOLD OFF ON ITEM A UNDER ITEM
[III.B. Discuss/Approve General Fund budget for FY2023-2024. 1. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests Updates including but not limited to: a. IT projects & budget requests. b. Capital projects. 2. Human Services Budget Requests Updates. 3. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. 4. Special Revenue Funds and Projects. ]
B, I'LL DISCUSS THE APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 23, 20 24.IS THERE ANY POINTS TO BE DISCUSSED ON THAT OR WE WILL DEFER THAT OFF? BRIANNA, I HAVE JUST PROVIDED YOU ALL AN UPDATE OF ALL THE APPROVALS THUS FAR, SO, OKAY.
AND IT BREAKS IT OUT AGAIN BY SALARY, OPERATING EXPENSES, CAP, NON CAP, IT, NEW EMPLOYEE CAP, NON CAP, UM, AGAIN, THE REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO, UH, SENATE BILL 22 AND THEN ROLLOVERS, UM, FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
SO UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, THANK YOU.
AND MAY COME BACK TO THAT ONE ON ITEM THREE.
ONE CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUESTS UPDATES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO IT PROJECTS AND BUDGET REQUESTS.
ANYTHING KIM? SO TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT, UM, BRIANNA HAD, UM, JUST
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PROVIDED FOR YOU ON THAT SHEET, I'LL KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE CAPTAIN ON CAP STUFF.SO AS OF TODAY, UM, OUT OF THE $12,769,698 AND 25 CENTS OF TOTAL REQUEST FOR GENERAL FUND $4,822,033 IS STILL UNAPPROVED LEAVING AMOUNT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
THAT INCLUDES ROLLOVER EXPENSES FROM F Y 23 APPROVED, NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST, UM, CAPITAL AND NON CAP EXPENSES, IT RELATED EXPENSES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
WE CAN START WITH, UM, JUST THE, THE LARGE WORKSHEET, THE CAP ON CAP ITEMS. UM, THOSE ITEMS STILL NOT APPROVED, UM, FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE, A 2024 CHEVROLET TRAX, SS U V FOR THE 23,740.
THIS IS THE COUNTY JUDGE? YES, SIR.
BRIANNA, I'M SORRY, NOT BRIANNA.
CYNTHIA, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP.
IS EVERYTHING THAT'S IN WHITE NOT BEEN APPROVED? YES, SIR.
IF IT'S IN GREEN, IT'S BEEN APPROVED.
IF IT'S DOESN'T HAVE A COLOR, IT'S NOT BEEN APPROVED.
AND SO BASICALLY IT'S THE FIRE MARSHAL AND UM, E L C STUFF SINCE SEAN WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK.
AND CONSTABLE, IT'S CONTINGENT? YES.
I NEED TO PULL ONE MORE THING UP.
I DON'T EVER CHARGE THE COUNTY OR I HAVE NOT CHARGED THE COUNTY.
UM, BUT I DON'T COUNT THOSE TO BE LOCAL MILES.
UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EXTREMELY FAR FROM WEATHERFORD.
SO I USUALLY JUST KEEP THOSE TO MYSELF.
SO THAT'S WHAT A NORMAL LOCAL MEETING DAY FOR ME WOULD BE, UM, ON THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONES JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU THE DATES OF THE WEEK THAT I DID THOSE, UM, ROUTES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I DID THE FROM A TO B TO C TO D AND THEN BACK TO THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, AND ABOUT AN AVERAGE MILE OF WHAT MY MEETINGS LOOK LIKE.
SO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HERE WHAT MY MONTHLY
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MEETINGS OVERALL LOOK LIKE.I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU MORE IN DETAIL WHAT MY DAY TO DAY WERE FROM POINT A, B TO C TO D AND THEN BACK TO THE COURTHOUSE.
SO BEAR WITH ME ON THIS SPREADSHEET BECAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD TO READ.
SO THIS IS MY JANUARY, UM, THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GO OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY TO HAVE A MEETING, BUT THERE'S TIMES THAT IN ONE DAY I HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT ARE NOT CLOSE BY.
AND SO I TRY TO MANAGE MY TIME, UM, DIFFERENTLY.
SO THOSE ARE MY JANUARY MILES WITH A TOTAL OF 2 68, 60 MILES.
AND THEN I WILL JUMP OVER TO MY FEBRUARY MILES AND IT KIND OF GIVES YOU THE PURPOSE.
AND THIS IS WHAT, UH, PURCHASING AN AUDITOR, THE FORMS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR US TO USE MILEAGE, UM, TO TURN IN OUR MILEAGE.
UM, FEBRUARY IT SHOWS 5 95 80 AND IT KIND OF GIVES YOU MY MEETINGS.
LET ME ZOOM IN FOR YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A TOTAL OF 5 95 80 ON THAT MONTH.
UM, USUALLY FEBRUARY AND JANUARY ARE SLOWER BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER DRIVING WISE, WE CAN'T BE OUT THERE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS MY MARCH, MARCH STARTS PICKING UP APRIL, MAY, JUNE AND JULY ARE CRAZY BUSY.
AND SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT MY MARCH LOOKS LIKE WITH THE 5 0 4 40 MILES.
AND THEN THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT, UH, WAS NOT.
UM, WHAT ARE THE PURPOSE OF THESE MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO? IT COULD BE, SO LET'S GO BACK TO MY MARCH ONES.
UM, I ATTEND, I DEAL WITH THE CITIES AND I DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND I DEAL WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND WITH THE COLLEGE AND NON-PROFITS AS WELL.
AND SO I SUPPORT THEM WITH PROGRAMS, WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE.
UM, THEY'LL TELL ME AND THEN WE'LL WORK TOGETHER ON A SOLUTION FOR THEM, BRING IN THE RESOURCE.
I TRY TO DO MY RESEARCH AND BRING, SEE WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING, WHAT'S WORKING FOR THEM, AND THEN TRY TO, UH, PRESENT IT TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, COLLABORATE TO GET THEM THOSE, UM, RESOURCES.
ALSO THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S RIBBON CUTTINGS OR BUSINESSES WHERE WE PROMOTE AS ACCOUNTING, BUT ALSO I S D COLLABORATION, WORKING WITH THEM HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE ISSUE.
OUR CHALLENGES THAT, THAT WE'VE HAD.
ALSO TRAINING THAT YOU HAD WHEN YOU'VE GONE TO COLLIN COUNTY, TARRANT COUNTY AND SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WITH THEM LEARNING THE PROGRAMS AND TRYING TO GET NETWORK WORKED IN WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. UH, THAT'S A GREAT DEAL OF, OF, OF EFFORT THERE.
BUT, UH, CHAMBER MEETINGS FURTHER, UM, AND MEETING THOSE WHEN I CANNOT MAKE THOSE.
UH, BUT THAT'S A SMALL PART OF IT.
IT'S MORE OF THE COLLABORATION AND THE NETWORKING THAT'S GONNA DEVELOP THESE COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROGRAMS. A LOT OF THOSE DRIVEN AROUND HEALTH, WHICH WE'VE DONE AT THE COLLEGE AND OTHERS THAT YOU'VE SET THOSE UP AND THOSE, THOSE BUSINESSES.
I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT'S COVERED HERE.
IT'S, THERE'S MORE IN DEPTH HERE.
I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE, BUT CORRECT.
EVEN WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, THEY'LL COME UP AND SAY, WE NEED SUPPORT WITH LIKE THE MED POP PROGRAM, RIGHT.
THAT THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM WITH THE MED POD MACHINES DURING COVID.
AND SO WE HAVE SOME, IF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING SOME, SOME ISSUES, THEY'LL COME TO ME AND SAY, WE NEED SUPPORT ON THIS, COULD YOU COUNTYWIDE? YOU KNOW, WE NEED A COUNTY REP TO COME AND SPEAK.
UM, ALSO DO A LOT OF THE TECH DOT, UM, THE COG MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT A NEW PROGRAM OR THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A GRANT THAT'S COMING UP.
AND SO KIND OF GET MYSELF INFORMED OF WHAT WE CAN BRING TO PARKER COUNTY AND BRING IT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT IS IT, UH, WHAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S WORKING FOR OTHER COUNTIES THAT CAN BE WORK THAT CAN BE UTILIZED HERE IN PARKER COUNTY AS WELL FOR A COMMUNITY? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO.
WELL, AND WE'RE CREATING PROGRAMS THAT HAVE NOT EXISTED THAT WE'RE NOW DOING, THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.
WE'VE BEEN MORE ACTIVE IN CREATING SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT
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WE ACTUALLY HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE.SO IF YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY PROGRAMS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE OUR COUNSELOR SUMMIT.
I I ASK THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETINGS.
WHAT WERE THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETINGS THAT YOU, YOU SAID YOU HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS THAT YOU ATTEND.
WELL, OUR REGULAR MEETINGS ARE LIKE OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT COLLABORATIVE WITH ALITO I, SS D AND LOCAL LEADERS.
UM, IT VARIES FROM EACH MEETING AND CHAMBERS.
IT JUST, YEAH, IT REALLY DOES.
IT'S, IT VARIES FROM MEETING TO MEETING.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? BUT ON JANUARY OF 2023, YOU WERE REIMBURSED, UH, FOR 263 MILES, $175.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE SUBMITTED SO FAR IN 2023.
I WANNA ALSO ADD THAT THIS COULD BE A COUNTY, COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE VEHICLE WHERE WE GO ON TRAINING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US GO ON TRAINING WHERE MY PROBATE AUDITOR GOES TO SAN ANTONIO AND WRITE A CHECK FOR 300 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS FOR HER DRIVING A PERSONAL CAR THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE TRAINING PART OF THIS, WHICH COULD BE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS OVER THE YEAR, UH, IF AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, YOU COULD BE USING IT, I'M NOT SURE, BUT BE ABLE TO USE THAT CAR IN A VARIETY OF WAYS TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY AND ALSO HAVE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE COUNTY, UH, WITH THE NECESSARY DECALS AS WE ALL HAVE OR MANY OF US HAVE.
BUT, UH, IT COULD BE USED FOR ALSO OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL WHEN IT IS NOT BEING USED TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.
DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL ON WHAT THESE MONTHLIES ADD UP TO? I WHAT THE COUNTY, IF THEY WERE ALL SUBMITTED, IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES, I CAN DO IT.
JUST, I DON'T WANNA HOLD UP THE COURT.
I HAVE 33 71 SO FAR UP TO MAY.
I HAVEN'T DONE JUNE, JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST.
33 71 AND THAT AND 33 71 IS WHAT? IT'S MY TOTAL, WHAT I HAVE SO FAR HERE IN, IN MY, UM, OKAY.
LIKE MY MONTHLY MEETING MILES.
SO FOR THE RECORD, DURING THIS YEAR, YOU, YOU'VE JUST, UH, ONLY BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THE ONE MONTH JANUARY.
BUT SOME OF THESE ARE 3.4 MILES.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THEM AROUND TOWN.
BUT I HAPPEN TO SEE SOME OF THOSE.
UM, SO IS THAT REFLECT YOUR TRAVEL, BECAUSE THOSE WERE AFTER HOURS.
ARE YOU TELLING ME LIKE WE, WE, WHEN YOU GO TO THESE TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS OR AFTER HOURS, YOU'RE NOT REPORTING THAT? I WAS NOT, NOW I'M HAVING TO DO IT NOW.
WELL, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE IT IS STILL COUNTY BUSINESS AND A LOT OF WHICH WE HAVE LEARNED, WHICH WE'VE PROBABLY DONE NEARLY 10, UM, OF THESE TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS.
AND YOU GO TO PROBABLY 70% OF THEM, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, EVEN IF IT IS AFTER HOURS.
UM, STILL IT'S THE COUNTY BUSINESS AND WE CAN, WE CAN CLEAR THAT UP.
SO BRIANNA, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ON THIS REIMBURSEMENT, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT 65, 5 PER MILE IS THAT TOWARDS A FUEL? DO YOU KNOW? IRS REIMBURSEMENT? YEAH.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MIGHT KNOW.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MIGHT KNOW THE BREAKDOWN.
'CAUSE WE'LL HAVE SOME OVERLAP HERE.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THE REQUEST WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR IS $23,740 FOR A NEW VEHICLE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.
AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, UH, I UNDERSTAND FOR TIRES FUEL.
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UM, COULD SOMEBODY BOUNCE THAT OFF OF ME? HOW MUCH THE ANNUAL FOR A VEHICLE IS THERE? 500 FOR TIRES.DID YOU SAY ABOUT 1200 AND THEN FUEL ON TOP OF THAT, KIM, DID YOU SAY ABOUT TWO 1200? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ON MY NOTES.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER HOWELL, ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IT WOULD BE OF THE MILES THAT I'VE DONE MY DATA FOR, UM, IT'S $2,208 WITH THE GOVERNMENT RATE.
AND CYNTHIA, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, IN, IN THE PAST IN THE AMOUNT, TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE, YOU'VE BEEN THREE YEARS OR SO, YOU'VE BEEN REIMBURSED ABOUT $4,000 IN TRAVEL, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BALANCE A BUDGET AND PAY FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THINGS ARE ON HERE.
I CAN'T SEE HOW WE CAN JUSTIFY BUYING THIS VEHICLE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT FOR THE AMOUNT OF USAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MOVE TO DENY THIS REQUEST, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE A SECOND? FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VEHICLE AT $23,740.
CAN, CAN I OFFER A ALTERNATIVE THAT MAY HELP US MEET IN THE MIDDLE FIRST? OKAY, SO WE CONSOLIDATED SOME POSITIONS AT PRECINCT TWO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND AS A RESULT, WE HAVE A PICKUP TRUCK THAT DOESN'T GET MUCH USE.
IT'S A 2010 CHEVY SILVERADO, SORRY, CHEVY COLORADO.
IT'S A 2010, BUT IT, IT, IT'S BEEN WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
MY BEST GUESS IS IT'S WORTH SOMEWHERE AROUND $10,000.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT TO SATISFY BY THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH, FUNDING, SINCE IT'S GOING FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER, WE WOULD NEED TO TRANSFER THAT AMOUNT FROM THE JUDGE TO PRECINCT TWO.
IS THAT CORRECT, BRIANNA? RIGHT.
IF IT, IF WE'RE TRANSFERRING BETWEEN LIKE FUND 10, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
BUT IF IT'S COMING, IF IT WAS PAID FOR BY ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, THEN YES, THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO REIMBURSE SOME, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BOOK VALUE.
THE PAID BY ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS IS AN ASSUMPTION FAIR.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT IS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
THIS IS ASSET NUMBER 0 1 6 3 7 8.
UM, WE DO USE IT, BUT WE DON'T USE IT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN'T CONSOLIDATE AND FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER THINGS.
UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA COORDINATION ON OUR PART TO DO WITHOUT IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
IT HAS A LOGO OF PRECINCT TWO, IT HAS A LOGO OF PRECINCT TWO, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD GET PULLED OFF AND REPLACED BY COUNTY JUDGE OR WHATEVER IS PART, UH, COUNTY RELATIONS OFFICER, WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO.
BUT IT'S A WHITE PICKUP TRUCK THAT LOOKS SHARP, LOOKS GOOD.
I JUST WONDER IT COULD BE ABOUT HALF THE COST.
I THINK THE KEY OF THIS IS 'CAUSE THAT THAT CAR HAS BEEN IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S BUDGET FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UH, FOR THE COUNTY RELATIONS OFFICER, WHICH HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY, UH, WHICH WE'VE BEEN VERY CAPABLE IN.
SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE THINGS WE HAVEN'T EVER DONE BEFORE.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST PUTTING THAT BACK IN THERE.
THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM AN INDIVIDUAL RATHER THAN PROBABLY SHOULD JUST HAD IT REMOVED AND KEPT IT IN THE BUDGET.
SO THIS IS SIMPLY PUTTING SOMETHING BACK IN THE BUDGET THAT, UM, HAS BEEN THERE ALL ALONG.
I I LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT IT SAVES THE COUNTY MONEY AND IT GETS US, GETS US A VEHICLE WHERE CAN HELP US START SAVING SOME COUNTY MONEY.
UM, SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT COMMENT.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE BUDGET.
AS WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE VEHICLE WAS IN THERE FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE CAME AS A GRANT.
IT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET, IT WAS A GRANT ITEM.
IT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE BUDGET AND THE, THE COUNTY RELATIONS OFFICE HAD NEVER BEEN BEFORE EITHER.
WE HAVE NOT HAD A COUNTY RELATIONS PERSON TO GO AROUND DOING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PAST, PRIOR TO YOUR ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS WHAT JOE OCK DID AS ONE OF THE POSITIONS HE HELD.
AND AS FAR AS THE GRANT HOWARD'S PAID FOR, IT'S BEEN IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S UNDER AN ITEM OF GRANT OR WHETHER BECAUSE IT'S STILL,
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UH, A CAR THAT THE COUNTY MAINTAINED.UM, YOU TALK ABOUT TIRES OR GAS, IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEEN IN THE COUNTY'S BUDGET.
AND SO, UM, IT THAT, THAT'S A CRITICAL NEED OF, OF MY OFFICE.
AND, UM, JACOB, I I SUPPORT YOUR, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPTION TO HAVE.
UM, E EITHER YOU OR I, I I WILL, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION TO PROCEED WITH THAT PURCHASE OF THAT VEHICLE AND LOOK AT HOW THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
SO I'M, I I THINK THE BENEFIT TO THIS IS, IT, IT IS LESS THAN HALF OF THE COST OF, OF A NEW PURCHASE.
UM, IF WE'RE ASKING ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCIL, THEN PRECINCT TWO CAN HELP OUT BY, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING BECAUSE THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL COORDINATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN CERTAIN STAFF MEMBERS ARE GOING DIFFERENT PLACES.
'CAUSE WE HAVE ONE LESS VEHICLE, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT DUE JUST FINE.
CAN I JUST YEAH, JUST FOR A FAIR MARKET VALUE.
I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE TRANSFERRED VEHICLES FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE TO FUND 10, IT'S TYPICALLY BEEN $500 TRANSACTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE COULD NEVER SELL THAT PICKUP ON AUCTION FOR $10,000 BEING A 2010.
SO, UM, TYPICALLY I, I THINK THE LAW JUST SAY IT'S EVEN A DOLLAR, BUT I DON'T, I MEAN, YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND, AND I GOT 10 STRICTLY FROM INPUTTING THE INFORMATION INTO EDMONDS.COM.
BUT I, WHERE WE END UP ON THAT NUMBER IS NOT AS, THAT'S, THAT'S A NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S NOT A STICKING POINT FOR ME.
I WANT TO END UP AT A REASONABLE FAIR NUMBER.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MADE BY, UH, WELL, IT SHOWS COMMISSIONER HOLD IS MAKING THE MOTION WHEN I MADE THE MOTION.
IS, IS THAT THE SECOND YOU'RE MAKING, RIGHT? OH, I THOUGHT I WAS MAKING THE MOTION, BUT I THINK HE MADE THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASS BY VOTE.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE WORDING EXACTLY? THAT'S ASSET 0 1 6 3 7 8.
AND KIM, IF YOU DON'T MIND DOUBLE CHECKING THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T TYPE THAT DOWN WRONG.
ONE, AND IT'S A 2010 CHEVY COLORADO WITH 18,388 MILES ON IT.
YEAH, SO IT'S JUST LIKE TRANSFER TO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
AND WELL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL FIGURE OUT AN AMOUNT.
SO YOU NEED TO BUDGET THE PRICE TO BE AGREED LATER.
WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT BUDGET FUNDS TO BUDGET FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE ASSET.
KIM, WE'RE STILL ON THE, THE ON ITEM B? YES.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS DEPARTMENT 4 0 6.
THEY HAVE SMALL EQUIPMENT, UM, TWO 20,000 OF IT'S FOR TRAINING EQUIPMENT, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF 20,000 6 0 3, AND THEN 12 PORTABLE RADIO BATTERIES AT $180 EACH FOR 2160, A TOTAL OF 22,763 FOR 4 0 6.
AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, I DID PUT A SHEET AT, AT EACH ONE OF YOUR POSITIONS THAT LISTED THAT, UH, EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY.
I KNOW SOME OF THE DESCRIPTION DESCRIPTIONS ARE, UH, A LITTLE CONFUSING.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS JUST 20,000 IS TO REPLACE CURRENT EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE OFFICE THAT HAS REACHED ITS END OF LIFE.
SO WE ARE REPLACING CURRENT EQUIPMENT.
WE WILL DISCARD THE OLD EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER SAFE.
UH, GENERALLY SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT HAS A FIVE TO 10 YEAR LIFE USEFUL LIFE, AND WE ARE REPLACING SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST.
ROPES, CARABINERS, UH, ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT.
UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME AIR BOTTLES AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LIST.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME AIR BOTTLES, UH, IN THE OFFICE FOR AIR PACKS.
AND, UH, THOSE HAVE A HYDROSTAT DATE LIFE, UH, DATE, DATE CANNOT BE HYDROSTAT PAST.
AND WE'RE ASKING TO REPLACE THOSE BOTTLES AS WELL.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? AND I ASK IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, NOT I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, 4 0 6 REQUEST.
MR. COLLINS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
MR. HOWELLS MADE THE SECOND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE IN DISCUSSION.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE, UH, MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT OF DATE? THEY'LL BE DESTROYED.
WELL, WE'LL COME TO THE COURT WITH A LIST AND WEST THAT BE DESTROYED BECAUSE
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IT, IT IS SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND WE HAVE TO DESTROY IT.WE CAN'T REISSUE IT OR, UH, AND ANO.
AND ANOTHER OPTION IS WE CAN CHECK WITH WHETHER FOR COLLEGE TO SEE IF THEY CAN USE IT FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE VOTE.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS FOR THE PROBATE AUDITOR.
THE, THE COURTROOM BENCHES, BENCH SEATING FOR 3,450 DISCUSSED LAST WEEK.
SO TO CLARIFY ON THAT, AGAIN, IT'S THE, WE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND IT'S STANDING ROOM ONLY OR IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOWHERE TO SIT.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY GOING TO FEEL, UM, WHAT WE SEE AS THE MAX THAT IS GONNA BE IN THAT ROOM AT ANY ONE POINT, UM, WOULD BE TWO PEWS OF THAT, WHAT WE THINK WOULD FIT.
UM, WE HAD, UM, THE ENGINEER, I CAN'T WHAT'S THE COMPANY'S NAME ON THAT? IT'S, UM, SODER.
THEY REALLY VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO WITH THE DESIGN OF THAT.
UH, SO THAT WAS, THAT REALLY HELPED US WITH THE DESIGN OF WHAT WE, THE NEEDS ARE.
AND, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT, 'CAUSE THE KEY OF THAT WAS I WAS APPROACHED BY A COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGE THAT, UH, THOSE HAVE TO BE PUBLIC AND, AND SO YOU CAN'T, YOU SHUT THE DOOR AND IT LOOKS LIKE A PRIVATE MEETING IF THE DOORS HAVE TO BE OPEN, THE DOCKET, WHICH IS POSTED.
BUT, UH, THERE HAS TO BE A PLACE WHERE SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN IF THEY WANT TO COME.
AND, BUT THOSE MEETINGS HAVE TO BE PUBLIC AND HAVE TO HAVE AN ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SEE.
THEN THAT DOES MEET THAT NEED FOR US TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING COURTROOM, UM, WITH THE GROWTH OF THOSE CASES IN THAT ROOM.
AND IN THAT SENSE, I WOULD, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THAT, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THAT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
I GUESS GOING FORWARD ON THAT, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THE SEATING OF THE, HOW WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT.
WHAT SEATING DO YOU HAVE IN THERE NOW? UH, NONE CHAIRS, I MEAN, JUST, THERE'S SOME LIKE SIX OR SEVEN CHAIRS SITTING IN THERE THAT, UH, 'CAUSE WHAT WE DID IS WE WOULD HAVE A CASE GO IN SET AT THE TABLE, DO IT, GET THEM TO GO TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO GET THEIR LETTERS, AND THEN HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND ONE BY ONE AND IT WAS TAKEN ALL DAY.
UH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, IS PUT PUT 'EM IN THE ROOM AND GET 'EM IN THE ROOM SO WE CAN START HEARING THE CASES MORE EFFICIENTLY, MORE QUICKLY, UH, AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY GUARDIANSHIPS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, THAT ARE PARTICIPANTS FOR THE ATTORNEYS TO GO IN THERE AND HAVE SPACE IN THERE TO TALK TO THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CLIENTS.
UH, WE JUST NEED THE SPACING IN THERE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME OUTSIDE, NOT HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT YET CONSULT WITH THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CLIENT AND NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
IT'S BEEN VERY INCONVENIENT FOR US.
BUT THERE IS, THERE IS A, A SERIOUS NEED, UM, TO A COMPLAINT THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN GIVEN TO A COUNTY COURT OF LAW THAT THAT IS AN OPEN MEETING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE AND ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN.
IT JUST LEAVES US WITH A SITUATION THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY, UH, EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING COURTROOM AND FOR PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN IN THERE.
UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE A COURTROOM, IT NEEDS TO BE A COURTROOM.
WE HAVE MINIMAL THAT'S INVESTED IN THERE.
WE JUST HAVE ESSENTIALLY A TABLE.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED SEATING FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN.
SO I'D BE OPEN TO HOWEVER THAT'S GONNA GET SOLVED IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T DO THIS.
SO, SO IT'S A LACK OF SEATING.
IT'S A LACK OF NUMBER OF AVAILABLE SEAT.
IT'S A LACK OF NUMBER OF AVAILABLE SEATING THAT WE HAVE.
I THOUGHT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WERE CHAIRS THERE NOW, BUT WE WANT BENCHES.
WELL, WE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SIX OF THOSE CHAIRS.
UM, SO THAT'S NOT EVEN MAYBE SEVEN OR EIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT ROOM.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR, THEY'RE PROBABLY OVER 20 YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE NOT WHAT, I MEAN, WE HAVE 'EM UP AGAINST THE WALL FOR PEOPLE TO SET IN, BUT THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL FOR THE ATTORNEYS MEETING WITH THEIR CLIENTS.
UH, PEOPLE WAITING TO HAVE THEIR CASE HEARD, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO BE, BE EFFICIENT WITH THAT.
UH, ESPECIALLY WITH GUARDIANSHIPS THAT HAVE AD LITEMS ATTORNEYS FOR BOTH SIDES THAT, UH, NEED TO CONSULT WITH.
THEIR ATTORNEYS DO NOT HAVE THE SPACE TO SIT THERE OR HAVING AND BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CASES.
IT'S IS JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONSULT WITH THEIR ATTORNEY HOW IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING.
JUDGE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY SEATS DO YOU NEED TOTAL? AND SO, UH, THOSE SIX OR SEVEN THAT ARE THERE NOW CHAIRS, HOW MANY CHAIRS TOTAL DO YOU NEED? SAY AT WE, WE NEED AT LEAST 20 IN THERE THAT WOULD MEET THAT NEED.
KIM, WHAT DID WE TALK ABOUT? SO THE, THE SIX BENCHES THAT ARE
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IN THE REQUEST, UM, SEAT THREE PEOPLE EACH, SO IT'D BE A TOTAL OF 18 SEATS, CLOSE CL 18 TO 20 AT 5 75 A PIECE EACH BENCH.DOES THE CAPACITY FLUCTUATE WITH YOUR DIFFERENT MEETINGS? I MEAN, AS FAR AS IT, IT DOES, UH, AND, AND SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WITH ANY COURTROOM THERE'S GONNA HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE, UM, PROBABLY EXCEPT FOR LYNN AND SHE'S GOT ALL THE SPACE SHE NEEDS UP THERE.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE DO IS SCHEDULE ACCORDING TO THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE.
BUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS, IS WE GUARDIANSHIPS AND SOME, SOMETIMES THESE CASES GET COMPLEX AND RUN OVER AND THERE'S PEOPLE SITTING THERE AND SITTING THERE OR NEED TO COME IN AND BE A PART OF THAT, THAT HAVE TO STAND.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONING TO THE, TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING TO THE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE INVOLVED THAT HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THEIR CLIENTS, BUT YET BE IN THE SAME ROOM AND HEAR THE TESTIMONY THAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH.
GUARDIANSHIPS ARE DEALT WITH ALSO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN PROBATE THAT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INTIMATE SITUATION.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHEN THIS COURTROOM IS ABSOLUTELY JUST NOT GONNA WORK WITH SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND SOME OF THE, THE INTERACTION WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND THEY'RE ON BOTH SIDES, UH, IS JUST A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT.
IT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE MY PROBATE AUDITOR TO BE VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.
SO, UH, WHICH HAS THE COMPUTER IN THE OFFICE AND, AND WE WORKED THAT OUT.
BUT WE DO NEED, WE NEED, WE NEED SEATING.
WE JUST THROUGH THE SIMPLE GROWTH OF HAVING THE CASE LOAD WE HAVE AND, AND, UM, BUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, AND I'M, I'M OPEN TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS.
AGAIN, I HAVE TO BRING UP OUR PREVIOUS COURT SESSION, UM, WHICH I SUGGESTED EITHER YOU GO BACK TO, UH, SUB COURTHOUSE WHERE THOSE COURTROOMS ARE THERE OR AS YOU CHOSE TO MOVE HERE, USE THIS COURTROOM.
UH, WE, AND I'VE, I'VE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH IT, JUDGE.
I JUST, WE HAVE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I I'LL GO THROUGH, I'LL GO THROUGH AGAIN WHY THAT DOESN'T WORK IS THAT IT, UH, THE FORMER COURTROOM THAT WE HAD, UH, MOVED US TO ANOTHER DAY THAT DID NOT WORK FOR US BECAUSE OF THE MENTALS AND THE THINGS THAT COME IN THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH PROBATE.
AND SO THAT ELIMINATED THAT COURTROOM.
I'VE ALSO TALKED TO SERENA, GILLIAN ON THE COURTROOM THAT THEY HAVE THE SMALLER COURTROOM THAT'S OFFSET FROM THE FOUR 15TH.
THAT THAT COURTROOM IS BEING USED ALSO AND IS ALSO IN CONFLICT WITH US AND IS NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS AVAILABLE FOR US.
AND SO THAT ELIMINATED THAT, UH, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY A SPACE IS AN ISSUE AS IT IS WITH MANY DEPARTMENTS.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT WITH OUR COURTROOM.
DOES THE COURTHOUSE HERE HAVE ANY LIKE FOLDING CHAIRS OR EXTRAS FOR EVENTS OR FOR FLEX SPACE USAGE, BEING ABLE TO USE OTHER MULTIPLE USES? NOT HERE.
UM, THERE'S SOME AT THE ANNEX, OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD ARE THOSE CHAIRS? I, THEY'VE BEEN HERE PRIOR TO 2007.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE, BUT THEY'RE OLDER.
AGAIN, I, I I I NEED SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK.
UM, SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE IN THERE AN HOUR.
UH, SOME PEOPLE WILL BE IN THERE FIVE MINUTES AND BE OUT.
UM, BUT I, I JUST NEED, I NEED CAPACITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN THERE, INTERACT WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS AND PROBATE'S A VERY COMPLEX ANIMAL.
I MEAN IT'S, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND LISTEN OR, OR SET THROUGH THAT WITH GUARDIANSHIPS MENTAL COMPETENCY HEARINGS, PROBATE, UH, WHICH ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROBATES.
AND THE COMPLEXITY TO THOSE HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE LAWS AND, AND CHANGE IN LEGISLATION.
UH, BUT WE HAVE TO COVER SOME BASES AND WE HAVE TO DO IT THOROUGHLY WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS.
UM, BUT THERE DOES NEED TO BE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SIT, INTERACT WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS, PERIOD.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
SO 34 50 FOR 18 SEATS? YES SIR.
SO IT HAS, THAT'S RELATIVELY LOW COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING SINGULAR OFFICE CHAIRS AT, CORRECT.
'CAUSE I, IF WE WERE TO ORDER JUST THE SINGLE CHAIR INDIVIDUAL CHAIRS, IT WOULD PROBABLY COST, UM, AS MUCH, IF NOT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT NOT MUCH.
AND YOUR COMPLAINT WAS FROM A DISTRICT JUDGE? DID I KNOW THAT CORRECTLY? IT WAS A COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE, COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE.
WELL THAT AND ATTORNEYS, SO YOU'VE HAD COMPLAINTS.
COMPLAINTS FROM A, FROM A COUNTY COURT AT LAW.
JUDGE LENBURY JOHNSON CAME TO ME AND APPROACHED ME WITH THE,
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THE FACT THAT THESE DOORS, UH, NEED TO BE OPEN WITH, WITH ADEQUATE SPACE IN THEREFORE PEOPLE TO SET AND DISCUSS WITH THEIR AD LITEMS WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS.AND SHE WAS APPROACHED ALSO BY ATTORNEYS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT JUST SIMPLY CAN'T BE ABLE TO, TO FUNCTION, UH, IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH THEIR, THEIR CLIENT AND BE ABLE TO LISTEN AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO EXIT THE ROOM TO DO THAT DOES NOT WORK.
WE DO, WE HAVE ANY OTHER COURTROOMS WHERE WE HAVE FOLDING CHAIRS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE ONE WHERE, WELL, THEY'RE USING THAT AT THE, UM, DISTRICT COURT WHERE THE SMALLER COURTROOM IS.
WE'D HAVE TO MOVE THOSE CHAIRS BUT MOVE THEM BACK.
THERE WOULD, THERE WOULD BE SOME THAT THAT WOULD WORK.
BUT JUST TO COMMISSIONER HALE'S POINT, I'M WONDERING DO WE, DO WE USE FOLDING CHAIRS ANYWHERE ELSE FOR COURTROOM? THAT JUST SEEMS KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW.
DOESN'T SEEM FITTING TO THE PURPOSE.
YOU, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CASES.
I MEAN, I'M NOT A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY, BUT FOR PROBATE GUARDIANSHIPS IT'S A LITTLE SENSITIVE.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE THAT, UH, HAVE LOST LOVED ONES THAT ARE COMMITTING PEOPLE OR GETTING GUARDIANSHIPS OVER PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, BOTH ON A TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT BASIS.
MENTAL COMPETENCY HEARINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING TO, UH, I DON'T WANT TO PUT 'EM IN A, IN A FOLDOUT CHAIR AND HAVE 'EM SIT THERE.
IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT THE REFLECTION OF WHAT I WOULD SEE PARKER COUNTY BEING.
AND GIVEN THE COST OF THIS, WHICH IS CERTAINLY AFFORDABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS, THIS IS A ONE TIME PURCHASE.
IT'S NOT A RECURRING PURCHASE AT ALL.
GIVEN THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HAD THE REQUEST FROM A JUDGE AND FROM ATTORNEYS, I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS 34 50 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSED.
MOVING DOWN TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE DEPARTMENT 5 43, THEY'VE REQUESTED A CONTINGENCY OF $5,000 FOR SMALL TOOLS, AN AUTOMOBILE, UM, FOR 52,000 IN THE OUTFITTING OF AN EQUIPMENT FOR THAT AUTOMOBILE WAS 43 647.
THEY'VE PULLED THE MOTORIZED PROJECTOR SCREEN, WHICH WAS $500.
SO THEY'VE REMOVED THAT FROM THEIR REQUEST.
AND A SMALL EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY LINE OF 5,000, A BURN PAN TRAINING UNIT FOR 5,000.
AND THEN RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR 19,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 1 29, 6 47.
UM, ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR ACCOUNT, UH, WE'VE MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THE BURN PAN FROM CURRENT BUDGET SO WE COULD STRIKE THAT AMOUNT AS WELL.
UM, WE DID STRIKE THE, UH, SCREENS.
UM, AGAIN, SMALL EQUIPMENT IS DIFFERENT FROM TOOLS.
UM, SO WE PUT CONTINGENCY MONEY IN THERE BECAUSE THINGS POP UP AND UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
WE DID THAT LAST YEAR AS WELL.
THAT VEHICLE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE? YES, SIR.
AND THAT VEHICLE, UH, REPLACES, UH, A, A VERY OLD, I THINK IT'S AN EXPEDITION.
IT'S EITHER AN EXPLORER OR AN EXPEDITION.
DO YOU HAVE THE MILEAGE ON THAT AT ALL? 160, ALMOST 170,000 MILES.
AND WE, WE'VE, UH, HAVE HAD TO, WE'VE HAD INCREASING REPAIR BILLS WITH THAT VEHICLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO ON THE VEHICLE THAT'S BEING REPLACED, IS THERE NONE OF THAT OUTFITTING OR ANY OF THAT EQUIPMENT THAT COULD BE REUSED IN THE NEW VEHICLE MINOR? UM, IT WASN'T WELL EQUIPPED AS IT WAS.
UM, THE LIGHTS ARE, ARE, UH, SOME OF THE LIGHTS ARE OUT IN THE EMERGENCY LIGHTING, UM, AND THE SIREN DOES NOT WORK.
SO, AND WE'VE HAD SOME SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CONSTABLE, OTHER CONSTABLES GETTING VEHICLES AND HAVING 'EM OUTFITTED WITH THESE, WITH THIS EQUIPMENT.
AND JUST FOR MY, I GUESS FOR OUR BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OUTFITTINGS 25, 20 8,000, THIS IS QUITE A BIT MORE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE AS WELL.
UH, IT WOULD BE OUTFITTED VERY SIMILAR TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE BID FROM.
SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED BY THIS OFFICE.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD PULL IT, WE WOULD PULL IT, UH, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE DIDN'T NEED, SUCH AS A CAGE.
WE JUST WOULDN'T BUY THE CAGE.
IF IT WASN'T, IF IT WASN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR OPERATIONS, WE, WE WOULDN'T BUY IT.
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FACT ALREADY REFLECTED IN THE 43 NUMBER OR SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULDN'T BUY CERTAIN PIECES OF THE OUTFITTING, IS THAT ALREADY CONTEMPLATED IN THE NUMBER THAT'S PROVIDED OR IS THAT THE, WELL, SO THE, THE 52 AND THE 43,000, THAT IS WHAT WOULD THE TOTAL WOULD BE FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT FULLY OUTFITTED VEHICLE.SO DO WE HAVE ANY GUESS ON WHAT THAT, IF WE DON'T PURCHASE ALL OF IT, WHAT THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE? EVEN, EVEN BALLPARK IS FINE.
YEAH, IT, IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS.
I, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JEFF? THE TWO VE THAT'S, SORRY, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? KIM WAS THE SECOND ITEM THAT SEAN SAID WAS TAKEN OFF, WAS THAT TAKEN OFF THE 1 29 6 4 7 OR IS THAT PART OF THAT NUMBER? NO, IT WAS THAT $500 PROJECTOR.
AND THE TOTAL NOW IS THE 1 29 6.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL AGAIN, SEAN? 1 29 6 4 7 1 2 9 6 4 7 TOTAL FOR ALL OF HIS REQUESTS.
JUST 1, 2, 4, 5,000 LESS BURN MINUS FIVE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION DOES UM, LACK OF A MOTION, DO WE WANNA GO THROUGH INDIVIDUALLY OR I THINK IN GOING BACK AND SOME OF THESE ARE CRITICAL NEEDS, ARE THEY NOT? YES SIR, THEY ARE.
OKAY, THEN LET'S INDIVIDUALLY GO THROUGH THOSE.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS AS PRESENTED.
MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
I'LL SECOND IT IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? MR. HUGHES? CAN YOU, UH, JUST FOR MY BENEFIT, I, I HAVE AN ID ALREADY, BUT I'D, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM YOU.
TELL US WHAT YOU USED THAT VEHICLE FOR AND HOW THAT VEHICLES SERVES THE COUNTY.
THAT VEHICLE IS, IS ANOTHER FOR, FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
UM, AND, AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BOTH OF THOSE OFFICES USE THAT VEHICLE COMBINED IN TOGETHER, UH, NOT ONLY IN RESPONSE BUT UM, COUNTY BUSINESS.
SO THIS IS A VEHICLE THAT IF THERE'S A FIRE, YOU'RE TRAVELING IN THIS VEHICLE OUT THROUGH THE FIRE? YES, SIR.
SO YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE A VEHICLE THAT HAS A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF BREAKING DOWN 'CAUSE IT HAS 165,000 MILES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? KIM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T.
OKAY, THE NEXT PAGE WE HAVE, UM, SORRY, ON THE NEXT PAGE, I'M SORRY, IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF, OF THE FIRST PAGE, 5 51.
UM, IS REQUESTING $5,000 WORTH OF AUTO WORTH OF AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY.
AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD USE IF, UM, SOMETHING IN THEIR VEHICLE BREAKS DOWN OR WHETHER THEY NEED TO REPLACE IT.
I INTENDED THAT TO BE A PART OF OUR MOTION.
SO WE DON'T NEED THE MOTION OR SECOND ON THAT ONE.
I INTENDED TO, BUT IF IT DIDN'T GET MARKED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER COLS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALL.
THEY ARE REQUESTING $1,500 WORTH OF CONTINGENCY FOR PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT NON CAP.
AND IN THE $5,000, ALSO AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT NON CAP FOR A TOTAL OF $6,500.
THIS IS ALL CONTINGENCY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I OTHER WAY AROUND, JUDGE, WHAT'D I SAY? YOU TURNED IT AROUND.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS OR ANY OF DISCUSSION.
UH, THAT'S, IT GETS CONFUSING ANYWAY.
MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HELL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
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IN FAVOR.AND THAT CONCLUDES CAPITAL AND NON CAP ITEMS FOR GENERAL FUND.
UNLESS THE ONLY OTHER ITEMS THAT I HAVE, UH, THAT ARE CAPITAL NON CAP WOULD BE FOR, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE AND THEN, UM, NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS AND THEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
IF WE WANNA MOVE ON TO THAT ON THE THIRD PAGE OF THE BIG 11 BY 17 SHEET.
WHAT PAGE DO YOU HAVE THERE? THE THIRD PAGE.
THIRD STREET AT THE BOTTOM IN BLUE? YES.
UM, THE JUSTICE CENTER, MASTER STUDY ARCHITECT, IT'S A GUESSTIMATE OF A A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, FOR THOSE SERVICES? NO, THAT WOULD BE TO AWARD THIS STUDY.
UM, THAT WOULD START APPROXIMATELY IN JANUARY AND HOPEFULLY CONCLUDE IN THE SUMMER.
AND WHEN IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE MARKETING FOR, UH, BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE NEEDS WOULD BE IN, IN THE, THE SPACE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN THE LOCATION RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, IT COULD BE LESS, I MEAN DEPENDING ON THE ARCHITECT AND HOW YOU
UM, SO THAT NUMBER WOULD BE MUCH LESS THAN THE MILLION.
BUT THE THING IS, WE DO NEED AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE GONNA BE AT SOME POINT.
UM, BUT GIVEN FOR A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE OUT THE MARKETING, WHICH IS GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF THAT, I MEAN, WELL I BACK AND TAKE OFF, WE DON'T KNOW.
I WAS TOLD, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOLD THAT 1% OF THE TOTAL POTENTIAL PROJECT, WHICH THERE COULD BE AROUND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, WE, WE NEED A LOT OF STUFF, BUT WE JUST, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD A LOT OF STUFF.
SO I KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON A LOCATION AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE COUNTY FARM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE PUTTING, THIS MIGHT BE ONE AS BAD AS WE NEED TO DO THIS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.
UM, AT SOME POINT I THINK THIS MIGHT COULD BE ROLLED INTO AS WE PROGRESS TOWARDS WHERE THE THING WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
BUT ALL WHAT, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE STUDY IS WE DETERMINED WELL THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE STUDY.
OH, IT IS THE LOCATION, THE OKAY.
YOU MEAN SO SIDE LOCATIONS ALSO BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS BASICALLY 10, 10 YEARS OLD OR MORE.
SO THE STUDY WILL FIND A PLACE TO PUT IT, WELL, IT, IT'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OF, OF LOCATIONS.
I'LL LOOK AT THE REAL ESTATE MARKET AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE OR YOU KNOW, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OTHER YEAH, BUT IF YOU DON'T PROXIMITY, IF YOU DON'T BUY IT RIGHT THEN, THEN THE PRICE CHANGES DO, DO WE HAVE A, WELL IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY, IT JUST INCLUDES THE RECOMMENDATION OF, YOU KNOW, SITE LOCATIONS AND THEN THE STUDY OF HOW LARGE OF A BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED AND RIGHT.
I KNOW GROWTH STUDIES, I'M HERE, WE HAVE A LIST OF WHAT THIS STUDY ACTUALLY STUDIES SOMEWHERE.
AND IF WE HAVE, IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED TO US, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M MISSING IT.
WHAT IT ACTUALLY STUDIES LIKE THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS STUDY IS A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT INCLUDES A SITE RECOMMENDATION.
DO DO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THIS STUDY WILL PROVIDE THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS.
I CAN READ YOU THE DESCRIPTION FROM THE R F Q THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO THE, AND I, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THIS, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS, IT'S BEEN WHEN YOU, WHEN THE COURT APPROVED THE ADVERTISING FOR THE R F Q, IT WAS TALK DISCUSSED, THEN WE NEED TO MOVE ON FROM THIS ITEM.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN AFFORD THIS.
WE'RE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT OTHER MORE CRITICAL ITEMS TODAY.
SO BA BASICALLY, BUT TO CLARIFY HERE, THIS WAS GOING TO INCLUDE A SIDE LOCATION ALSO.
IS THAT WHAT THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT? THE, THE STUDY
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WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SITE LOCATION.UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, UNDER CAP AND NON CAP IS THE RENOVATION OF THE, UM, OLD WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, AT 8 0 1 SANTA FE DRIVE.
UM, AN ESTIMATE OF $2 MILLION FOR THAT RENOVATION.
UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COURT DETERMINES, IT HAD BEEN MENTIONED, UM, TO MARK LONG, UM, BY AN ESTIMATOR THAT IT COULD COST $350 PER SQUARE FOOT, THE BUILDING'S AROUND 14,000 SQUARE FOOT.
UM, GIVE OR TAKE WHAT TYPE OF RENOVATION NEEDS? I MEAN SOME OF THE OFFICES MIGHT JUST NEED CARPET AND PAINT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TOTAL REBUILD OF SOME PARTS OF THE, LIKE THE LARGE DISPATCH CENTER.
AND JUST, JUST GONNA DEPEND ON WHO YOU ALL DETERMINE IS GONNA GO IN THE BUILDING.
WHEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT BUILDING? WELL FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GONNA NEED RENOVATIONS REGARDLESS OF WHO WE PUT IN THAT BUILDING.
THAT'S, I KNOW, BUT DOCUMENTED, UM, THE DECISION OF WHO GOES IN THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MADE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
UH, BUT WE APPROVAL OF WHAT'S RENOVATIONS GONNA BE AND WE CAN APPROVE UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UH, BUT WHETHER WE PUT A SCHOOL IN THERE, WE PUT ELECTIONS, UM, IT, UH, WAS ANOTHER ONE.
DID WE EVER COME UP WITH, OH, IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WITH THE SEVEN DETECTIVES, UH, IT'S GONNA NEED RENOVATION PERIOD.
I MEAN WE WE'RE BUYING THE BUILDING SO IT'S GONNA NEED RENOVATION.
WHAT'S THE PENALTY IF WE DON'T BUILD THE, LET THIS WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA BECOME SCHOOL TEACHERS OR BABYSITTERS OR BECAUSE OF STATE'S MANDATE AND THAT THAT HAPPENS, BUT ARE THE SCHOOLS GONNA PARTICIPATE IN GIVING US SOME OF THIS MONEY? AND I SUPPOSE WE'RE WAITING ON THE JUVENILE BOARD TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
I, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE JUVENILE BOARD ASK OUR BUDGET PRIOR TO THIS IS THAT, UH, THERE HAS BEEN SOME, UH, COMMITMENTS MADE BY CERTAIN I SDS.
SO YES, TO YOUR POINT, THERE ARE GONNA BE SHARING SOME, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE YET.
BUT THE QUESTION HERE IS, IS ON THE RENOVATION, THAT'S THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY HARD TO DETERMINE RIGHT NOW.
SO IF THE, IF THE ENTIRE BUILDING WAS RENOVATED AT $350 A SQUARE FOOT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $5 MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MARK AND THEM CAN DO IN HOUSE POTENTIAL.
WELL FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S NOT REASONABLE IN, IN THE BUDGET RIGHT.
CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO RENOVATION WORK TO THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
MARK, WE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO WE'RE, UH, PERFORM, I MEAN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD THAT IN THIS BUDGET.
MARCO, DO YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AND THE COMPETENCY TO BE ABLE TO TIE THAT IN ON THE RENOVATION OF THAT WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO? WOULD YOU COME ON A I THINK IT DEPENDS.
IS THE ANSWER, AM I RIGHT? IT DEPENDS ON THE PRIORITIES, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.
EVERYTHING THAT, UH, MOST EVERYTHING THAT MY DEPARTMENT DOES IS BASED ON PRIORITY.
WHO'S, WHO'S GOT A, WHO'S IN THE MOST NEED.
AND OF COURSE SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT AGREED UPON TO ALL PARTIES, YOU KNOW, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE PART OF OUR MAINTENANCE LINE OUT AND WORK ON SOME OF THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PARTS OF THAT BUILDING THAT COULD BE MOVED IN.
JUST LIKE KIM REBA SAID LITTLE PAYING CARPET.
AND WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN DO MORE, UH, MORE WITH LESS.
AND UH, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CASES WITH MY CREWS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR MORE WITH LESS.
I'M, I'M GETTING STUCK ON THAT.
$350 A SQUARE FOOT NUMBER THAT SEEMS MORE LIKE NEW BUILD PRICE.
WELL IT, IT, IT'S HIGH COMMISSIONER IT IT IS HIGH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I CAN UH, CONTACT SOME, UH, CONTRACTORS AND GET SOME MORE PRICES ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, MID CONTINENTAL'S DOING WHAT Y'ALL PASSED WHILE AGO.
HE CAN GIVE ME SOME ESTIMATES ON THAT STUFF TOO.
UH, WE KNEW THAT WAS HIGH, BUT WE'D RATHER, WE WOULD RATHER GO A LITTLE BIT OVER THAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE UNDERESTIMATED THIS AND NOW WE NEED MORE MONEY.
SO THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THERE.
WHAT I SEE IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE USE OF THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH WHAT A COST WOULD BE TO PUT THAT BUILDING IN SERVICE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE.
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SO YOU, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GUESS ALL WE WANT TO, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.HOW'S THAT GONNA FIT INTO THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE DO HERE? 'CAUSE WE'RE BUYING A BUILDING.
THERE IS GONNA BE A USE IN THAT BUILDING.
UH, OR DO WE JUST AS WE PROCEED, JUST PULL, PULL FROM THE GENERAL SIDE TO WELL THE, THE ONLY THING I CAN ANSWER TO THAT IS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NORTH SIDE OF IT.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE OFFICES ARE? WE GO IN THERE AND PUT NEW CARPET AND PAINT AND THEN LET THE COURT DECIDE WHO WANTS TO DO WHAT.
AT LEAST WE COULD GET AT LEAST WE WOULD BE OCCUPYING THE BUILDING AT THAT POINT.
SO THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT FOR THE COURT.
AND THEN GET PRICING LATER AT LATER DATE.
WE DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING IN THERE AND WHAT YOU CAN DO AND CAN'T DO AND NEED TO AT THAT POINT, NARROW THAT DOWN.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING AND DISCUSS THAT BUILDING.
IT BEEN UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I SAID, BUT I'M NOT THE, IT WOULD UNDER, OH YOU'RE, YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE NEGOTI, IT'S PURCHASED AND NOW THAT, THAT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REAL ESTATE, IT IS NOT A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION.
IT IS NOW DISCUSSING THE USAGE OF IT.
THAT IS NOT EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.
THAT WOULD BE DONE IN OPEN COURT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
SO WE'LL, WE WILL PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND JUST BE AN OPEN COURT ITEM.
SO, UM, THE NEXT ITEM, UM, THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX RENOVATIONS.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAD KIND OF PUSHED THAT ASIDE TOO.
I JUST WANT CONFIRMATION ON THAT.
YEAH, WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS NEEDING TO ADD A MODULAR BUILDING FOR THE PATROL.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? WE DO.
WE CAN USE A PATROL AND, AND PART OF OUR C I D IT'S PROBABLY OUR PROPERTY CRIMES INVESTIGATORS.
AND THIS WOULD BE LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE THE COUNTY OWNS ABOUT A, ABOUT NINE TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
SO WHAT, WHAT I'M SEEING, UM, SHERIFF IS, UH, 59,171.
IT'S FOR A, FOR THE RENTAL TO THAT BUILDING FOR A YEAR.
26,600 FOR THE SETUP, DELIVERY AND RAMP AND ALL THOSE NECESSARY.
AND THE HOOKUP COST WOULD BE 80,000, ANOTHER 88,000 FOR HOOKUP COSTS.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THE COUNTY AND PROBABLY TRY TO MINIMIZE THE HOOKUP COST AS FAR AS TRENCHING FOR ELECTRIC OR SEWER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
DO YOU KNOW THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF THIS UNIT? UH, THE MODULAR, UH, CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF THAT ONE? UH, IT'S LARGE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE, UH, 10 OFFICES TOTAL, FIVE ON EACH SIDE AND A LARGE OPEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND WHILE SHE'S LOOKING FOR THAT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE, UH, DISPATCH, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF, UH, EXPAND THAT WITH, WITH A SEIZE
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON YOUR DISPATCH? AND THIS FALLS UNDER THE BUDGET OF THIS 'CAUSE IT, IT, SO IT'S NOT GOING OFF AGENDA, BUT ON THE DISPATCH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REMODELING THE ROOM SO YOU CAN OR YOU TO WHERE YOU'RE HAVING ADDITIONAL, HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF TO DO THAT.
UH, SO WE GET ANOTHER CONSULT STATION OR TWO.
JUST PLANNING FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL ABSORB THE COST OF THAT.
CAN I ASK JUST A QUESTION ON THAT? DOES IMPACT THE BUDGET, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, LANCE ARNOLD ON, UH, THE CHIEF OF WEATHERFORD ON WHERE THEY ARE AND KIND OF WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD ON A REGIONALIZED KIND OF COMING TOGETHER? HAS THERE BEEN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO HONOR.
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WHO'D YOU SAY WAS GONNA BE IN THERE? C I D AND PATROL.AND WHERE ARE THEY AT NOW? THEY'RE IN OUR BUILDING.
WE'VE CUT THAT BUILDING UP SO MANY WAYS.
THERE'S JUST NOTHING ELSE LEFT INSIDE THAT BUILDING.
WE, WE NEED TO GET OUTSIDE THE WALLS AND, UM, SO WE'LL MOVE SOME OF OUR PATROL FOLKS OVER THERE.
SOME OF OUR C I D FOLKS OVER THERE.
AND THEN WE, WE HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION 'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE GENEROUS, GENEROUS ENOUGH TO GIVE US FOLKS.
AND, UH, WE JUST NEED THE SPACE.
WHAT WERE THE ONES THAT WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WERE GOING INTO THE, UH, WEATHER PD BUILDING ON THE SEVENTH.
UH, THAT'S OUR OTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER SET OF, THAT'S ANOTHER SEPARATE SEVEN.
THOSE ARE OUR, UH, UNDERCOVER FOLKS.
UH, IF WE DO, JUST CURIOUS IF WE DO GO ANOTHER DIRECTION ON THE USAGE OF THAT BUILDING, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THOSE SEVEN DETECTIVES? THEY'LL HAVE TO STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT.
WELL, IF, IF THEY STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT, UNLESS THAT BUILDING HAS TO BE TORN DOWN AND THEN, UH, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AT A LATER DATE.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THAT ITEM.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
OH, IT WOULD BE 59,000 1 71 FOR THE ANNUAL RENTAL.
THE HOOKUP WOULD, OR DELIVERY OF THE METAL RAMP.
AND THE BUILDING WOULD BE 26,696 AND THE HOOKUPS WOULD BE 88,553.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST, SORRY, JUST ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
IF WE CHOOSE TO NOT PROCEED IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT RENTAL, IS THERE A A RETURN FEE? YEAH.
IS THERE A PENALTY TO US IF WE, THERE'S JUST A RETURN, GET OUT OF IT AFTER ONE YEAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT'S THAT? COST OF THE COUNTY.
UH, IT'S SAME COST AS A SETUP FOR THEM TO COME PICK EVERYTHING BACK UP.
SO IT'S AT 27, 7,000? YEAH, ROUGHLY.
UH, THERE'S NO, UM, THESE, THESE ARE BRAND NEW TRAILERS.
UH, BASICALLY THEY, THEY SET 'EM UP.
THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT DISTINCT ONES THEY COME IN.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SITE PREP.
SO IT'S $88,000, I THINK IS AN OVERESTIMATE AS FAR AS ACTUALLY WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
IS THERE AN OPTION TO BUY THOSE? YES, THERE IS.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT.
US PICKING UP A 60,000 ANNUAL TAB FOR A BUILDING.
SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING $17 AND 61 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT ANNUALIZED.
LEMME CHECK AND I'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO YOU FOR THE PURCHASE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO, UM, THERE'S ALSO A 14 BED EXPANSION TO THE JAIL PLUS THE ARCHITECT ENGINEER SERVICES.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR 350,000 AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS PAYING FOR, UH, 50,000 OUT THAT OUT OF THEIR, UM, COMMISSARY FUNDS.
SO THAT LEAVES THE NET OF THREE 50.
WILL WE MAKE MONEY BACK ON THAT? AND WE PROBABLY WON'T.
THAT'S JUST GONNA BE A BANDAID FOR US TO ADD THOSE 12 OR 14 BEDS.
UM, FOR, FOR FUTURE GROWTH, UM, WE, WE MET WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS LAST WEEK, AND THAT'S PROBABLY A HIGH ESTIMATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS AND THE PLUMBING CONTRACTORS WOULD COST.
'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF A SMALL JOB AND IT'S HARD TO GET SOME CONTRACTORS TO COME IN TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF LABOR OVER THERE AND WE CAN KIND OF HELP THEM ON THAT AND TRY TO SAVE SOME OF THOSE COSTS TOO.
HOW MANY DOES OUR JAIL HOLD NOW? RIGHT NOW IT'S FOUR.
AND WE NEED, WE, WE NEED ALL WE CAN A THOUSAND.
WELL,
UM, IF WE CAN GET THIS AND THEN MAYBE THE ONE THAT WE PUT ON HOLD, THE 48 BED, YOU KNOW, STANDALONE LOW RISK FACILITY.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER THAT WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER COUPLE YEAR BANDAID.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
COMMISSIONER HILL, WHAT IS YOUR MOTION AGAIN? I I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE 14 BED EXPANSION REQUEST AT $350,000.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER
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CONLEY.IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL ON PAPER PASS FIVE VOTE, PROCEED.
WELL, WE GOT A LOT OF GROWING PAINS COMING.
ALL THESE PEOPLE MOVING OUT HERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, BILL AND GROUNDS DIRECTOR MARK WONG TO COME BACK AND TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT ALL OF THE BUILDING, UM, REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO HE CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF WHAT HIS M AND O BUDGET IS FOR BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS GET THEIR, THEIR REQUEST MENTIONED.
DO WE HAVE A SHEET THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT OR? UH, I DON'T THINK SO.
I DIDN'T PROVIDE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I WASN'T, I MEAN THERE ANOTHER ONE SHE HAD ASKED.
KIM HAD ASKED ME TO DO THAT AND I GOT, I'VE GOT MOST OF THAT IN HERE.
SOME OF 'EM THAT ARE ON THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, BUT THEY'RE SERVICE CONTRACTS THERE.
I'M GONNA GO OVER WITH ONES I'VE GOT.
OKAY, THE FIRST ONE IS THE DISTRICT COURT FOUR 15TH AND Y'ALL JUST AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR MID CONTINENTAL FOR THAT ONE.
THE SECOND ONE ON MY LIST IS THE DRIVE THROUGH FOR AUTO AT THE SANTA FE ANNEX.
AND IT, UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT'LL BE FINISHED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND IT'LL COME OUT, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT'S COME OUT OF JEANIE'S BUDGET.
PART OF IT'S COMING OUT OF OURS.
YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AWNING.
I'M PAYING FOR OUT THE MAINTENANCE LINE AND THE ELECTRICAL WORK WE'RE DOING HERSELF PAY NOW THE MAINTENANCE LINE.
BUT THAT'S ALL COMES OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE'RE ON NOW.
UH, NOW THE FOUR 15TH IS GONNA COME OUT OF THE, UH, 2324 BUDGET.
THE NEXT ONE ON MY LIST IS THE, UH, COUNTY COURT AT NUMBER TWO.
THERE'S SOME LINES DRAWN THROUGH THESE.
THAT'S, UH, THAT WAS THE COUNTY COURT UPSTAIRS TO CLEAN THE CARPETS AND THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE RESTORATION.
THE E O C IS THE NEXT ONE ON THE LIST.
AND THAT'S TO REPAIR OR REPLACE THE WATER LINES THAT ARE IN THE ATTIC OF THE BUILDING.
WE HAD ONE OF 'EM BUS LAST WINTER AND THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ON NEXT YEAR.
THAT'LL BE, WHEN YOU SAY REPLACE, YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE WHAT, WHAT KIND THEY ARE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN REPLACE THE ONES IN THE ATTIC? IF IT'S A METAL LINE, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT WITH PECKS.
AND THE BANDS? NO SHARK FITTINGS.
I DON'T, I DON'T PREFER SHARK FITTINGS.
TWO OF OUR LEAKS LAST YEAR COME BECAUSE OF SHARK FITTINGS THAT SEPARATED.
THE, UH, THAT IN THE OC AND THEN ALSO IN THE AG BUILDING.
UH, THE SPRINGTOWN, THE NEXT ONE IS SPRINGTOWN ANNEX.
IT'S TO, UH, IT'S THE, UH, A D A COMPLIANT FRONT DOORS THAT'S GONNA BE DONE BEFORE THE, THAT'LL BE PAID OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THE, UH, SPRINGTOWN ANNEX, THE ACOUSTICAL PANELS THAT WERE, UH, REQUESTED BY JENNY GENTRY, UH, WE HAD INITIALLY PUT THEM ON HOLD BECAUSE THINKING THE BUILDING WAS GONNA GET REMODELED.
SO WE MIGHT READDRESS THAT 'CAUSE IT IS NOISY INSIDE THAT BUILDING WHEN YOU GET A LOBBY FULL OF PEOPLE IN THERE.
HAVE WE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR OF THOSE OUT OF THE, THE PREVIOUS BUDGET? UH, NO, BUT THOSE WILL COME OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE LINE.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT TO BE A BIG, UH, IT WILL, IT WILL PROBABLY BE OVER, UH, $2,500, WHICH WILL REQUIRE THREE BIDS.
BUT, UH, AND LIKE THESE ACOUSTIC BILLS THERE PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.
UH, JP ONE THAT'S IN THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX, AND AGAIN, WE PUT THAT OFF BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA REMODEL THE BUILDING.
WE MAY REVISIT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE QUITE A PROJECT.
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SANTA FE ANNEX ELECTIONS IS REQUESTING REMODELING, JUST BASICALLY FINISH PAINTING AND CARPET IN THAT AREA.WE HAD DONE PART OF IT ALREADY AND REMODELED AND PUT UP WALLS AND DOORS AND STUFF IN THERE.
THAT'S IN THE OFFICE AREA? YES.
AND THEN JP FOUR IS WANTING TO INSTALL THE DOOR FROM THE, UH, CLERKS AREA INTO THE COURTROOM.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND HE NEEDS THAT AND WANTS THAT, IT, IT MAY HAVE TO BE PUT BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE PRIORITY LIST.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE JUST NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHY HE WANTS IT.
HOW MUCH IS THAT LISTED? IF YOU DO A DOOR, IF YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO ADD A DOOR IN THERE, IT'S GONNA COST ABOUT 10 GRAND.
WE'D DONE IT AT WILLOW PARK FOR JUDGE JOHNSON.
AND I THINK WE DID IT FOR LIKE $3,500 IS WHAT IT WOUND UP COSTING US SOME MATERIALS.
DO WE HAVE, WAS THERE A DOOR, A SURPLUS DOOR FROM THAT ORIGINAL PROJECT OR THERE IS A LEFTOVER DOOR? YES.
AND I'M, I THINK WE PICKED IT UP.
WE'VE GOT IT STORED, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
I FORGOT ABOUT, IT'S A WINDOW FROM THE, UH, BRANDY QUALLS OFFICE TO THE CLERK SO SHE CAN SEE OUT IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S RELATIVELY EASY AND INEXPENSIVE.
THE DOOR, DOES THAT INCLUDE A FRAME? YES.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD SAVINGS ON THAT.
WHAT WE DID AT WILLOW PARK IS WE WENT TO PHILLIPS WELDING SUPPLY AND GOT A METAL FRAME AND DOOR.
UM, WHAT THAT THAT, UM, I DON'T SEE IT ON THE LIST HERE, BUT Y'ALL IN THE, UH, SANTA FE ANNEX, THE HALLWAY THAT HOUSES THE, IT, THE TREASURER AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE PUBLIC REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE IN THAT AREA.
UH, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA DO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID FOR RAY WRIGHT'S OFFICE.
PUT A GLASS DOOR THERE WITH A KEY FOB ON IT THAT WOULD KEEP THE PUBLIC OUT.
WE ARE COMBINING THAT WITH A NEW GLASS ENTRY DOOR FOR JP TWO DOWN HERE ON, AT, ON FOURTH HIGHWAY.
WE CAN GET A BETTER DEAL IF WE COMBINE THOSE TWO.
WE DO HAVE TWO BIDS PRESENTLY FOR THOSE WAITING ON A THIRD, BUT IT WILL BE PAID OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE LINE ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SAY THAT AGAIN? REQUEST RECORDS.
I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AS FAR AS THE WATER EVENTS, SEAN HUGHES HAS ALREADY GOT THIS IN HIS OFFICE, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA INSTALL SOME WATER SENSORS AND UH, CREEK, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT WE'VE HAD TROUBLE BEFORE WITH AND PLACES WE THINK MIGHT HAVE TROUBLE.
SO IF IT DETECTS WATER, IT'LL SEND AN EMAIL AND IT WON'T RUN UNTIL SOMEBODY CALLS.
SO AM I LEAVING ANYTHING ELSE OUT? UM, DID YOU YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, WELL EVERY, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER KIM, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST NOW TALKED ABOUT'S GONNA BE PAID OUTTA MY MAINTENANCE LINE.
I THINK WE INCREASED THAT 46,000 IF I RECALL.
SO ALL THESE PROJECTS WILL COME OUT OF THAT LINE.
YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO AS MUCH OF 'EM AS WE CAN IN HOUSE
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'CAUSE WE CAN SAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY THAT WAY.UM, BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE BY CONTRACTORS TO GET 'EM DONE.
WE'RE GOING AS FAST AS WE CAN.
MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE GOING OUT TO PRECINCT TWO, UH, I THINK ON WEDNESDAY.
SPEAKING WITH A VENDOR, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE QUOTE, IT'S 325,000 TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING OUTRIGHT AND STILL INCLUDE, UH, DELIVERY SET UP AND CONNECTION FEES.
3 25 PLUS THOSE, PLUS THE 26,000 FOR THE DELIVERY.
KIM, ANYTHING ELSE ON CAP? OKAY, GOOD.
UNLESS YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT NOT YET.
LET'S GOT ITEM TWO ON HUMAN SERVICES BUDGET REQUEST UPDATES.
DID WE EVER GET ANY UPDATES FROM WEATHERFORD ON ANIMAL CONTROL COMMISSIONER WALDEN ON THE MEETING THAT YOU MET WITH THEM? I THINK YOU AND I MET WITH THEM THERE.
I WAS JOHN FOREST AND I MET WITH 'EM.
YOU, UH, HAD TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, THEY ASKED, UH, THEY, THEY WERE ASKING IF WE WOULD WANT TO, UH, TAKE IT OVER AND THAT WAS A NO.
AND, UH, SO, UH, LOOKING AT THE TOTAL COST OF IT AND WHAT OUR, OUR BUDGET IS FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO STAY WHERE WE ARE FOR THE FUTURE TO THE NEAR FUTURE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMPONENTS OF HUMAN SERVICE BUDGET REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT? OKAY.
GO TO ITEM FOUR ON SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND PROJECTS.
[IV.A. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests Updates. ]
LET'S GO TO ITEM FOUR.I WANNA DISCUSS APPROVED PRECINCT FUNDS 50 AND FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET.
2024 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CAP AND NON CAP ON THE BUDGET REQUEST UPDATES.
I THINK THE, THE CAP AND NON CAP ITEMS IN THERE ARE, ARE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING FOR OUT OF OUR OWN BUDGETS.
AND, UH, THERE REQUESTS THAT COME OUT OF ROAD AND BRIDGE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.
[IV.B. Road & Bridge Allocation Updates. ]
B ON RODENT BRIDGE ON ALLOCATION UPDATES.SO THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DISCUSS THE ROAD BRIDGE TODAY.
WE GO TO ITEM FIVE ON ADJOURNMENT.
I, WE'RE LOOKING WELL, LET ME BEFORE THERE'S STILL THE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST.
BUT, UM, OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THREE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST, ANNUAL RENEW POSITIONS.
UM, FIRST I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE UNIFORM REQUEST.
UH, LAST YEAR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVED AN UPDATE TO THEIR BUDGET FOR UNIFORM OFFICERS.
NON-UNIFORM WENT TO $600, UNIFORM OFFICERS WENT TO $1,200.
UM, THE OTHER OFFICES THAT HAVE, UM, OFFICERS WHO FALL UNDER THOSE POLICIES WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR COURT BAILIFFS, YOU KNOW, THAT WEAR UNIFORMS, THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES, UH, FIRE MARSHAL, UH, E O C MEDICAL INVESTIGATORS.
UM, IT WOULD BE $7,115 IS THE ESTIMATE TO MAKE THAT JUST UNIFORM POLICY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OUR UNIFORMED OFFICERS.
SO WHAT ARE THEY WEARING NOW? WELL, THE BAILIFFS WEAR UNIFORM THE SAME, EXACTLY THE SAME UNIFORM AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES PAYING FOR.
THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME UNIFORM PAY THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GETTING.
YEAH, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY UNIFORM.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES GET 1200.
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OKAY.YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? OTHERWISE I'D ASK FOR A MOTION THAT'S A, A WANT ITEM.
YOU MIGHT WANNA COME BACK TO THAT.
UM, THE NEXT IS THE CERTIFICATION PAY REQUESTED BY THE JP OFFICES.
UM, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR POSITION, WE'RE GONNA, I, I'M, I CAN SPEAK TO THIS, THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION WE'RE GONNA NEED THIS, BUT THERE'S, UNDER THE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE COUNTY CLERK HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED A NEW FULL-TIME POSITION.
SHE HAS WITHDRAWN THE REQUEST.
UM, THE DISTRICT CLERK HAD REQUESTED TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
UM, SHE WOULD STILL LIKE THE SECOND, BUT WE'LL RESPECT YOUR DECISION.
UM, NEXT WOULD BE, UH, BUILDING AND GROUNDS HAD REQUESTED RAISES FOR STAFF.
HE WANTS TO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YES WE HAVE REQUESTED RAZOR, BUT IN SOME OF THE LINES, I WANT THAT JOB KEPT HIGH ENOUGH WHERE I CAN KEEP THE PEOPLE I'VE GOT NOW.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RAISED, I DON'T INTEND ON GIVING ANY OF THOSE RAISES OUT UNTIL IF I GIVE 'EM OUT AT ALL UNTIL AFTER THE, UH, CURRENT BUDGET IS DONE.
UM, LEMME GET WHAT I'VE GOT HERE.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD I, THAT I'D ASK FOR AND THAT, THAT MS. MCCULLOUGH'S WORKING ON IS A BREAKDOWN OF EACH DEPARTMENT AND EACH SALARY.
SO IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE AND I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT, NOT AT THIS MEETING, BUT A FUTURE MEETING.
I THINK WHAT MARK'S TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT PRECINCTS DO.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE LEAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU START, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT MAKES A HIGHER SALARY, YOU BRING SOMEONE IN A LOWER SALARY.
SO BUILDING A GROUNDS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ABOUT KIND OF REALLOCATING MONEY AROUND.
HE'S JUST GOTTEN TO THAT POINT THAT RIGHT.
SO, AND, AND, AND WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
YOU, YOU KNOW THAT BETTER THAN WE DO.
AND SO I, MY SUGGESTION IS YOU WORK WITH MS. MCCULLOUGH AND GET THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE AND GET THEM TO US SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE KIND OF GOT THEM, DON'T WE? YEAH.
I MEAN IF YOU, I MEAN THE TOTAL REQUEST, UM, IS $68,412.
UM, IF YOU HAVE YOUR BOOK WITH YOU, THERE IS A TAB FIVE 10 THAT HAS THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT AND THE JUSTIFICATION BEHIND IT THAT HE'S REQUESTING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, BECKY HAS KIND OF SAID IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN KEEP WHAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT.
IT'S CHEAPER TO DO MORE WITH LESS IN A WAY, YOU KNOW, THAN TO GET ANOTHER NEW EMPLOYEE.
BUT I'VE GOT A NEW ONE STARTING TOMORROW, ANOTHER HVAC TECH, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP HIM BECAUSE THAT'S OUR BIGGEST NEED.
IS THAT ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WHAT TAB IS THAT UNDER IN THE WHITE BOOK? IT'S FIVE 10.
UNDER THE FIVE 10 IN THE WHITE BOOK? YES.
WE WE'VE GOT SOME MORE WORK TO DO THERE AND, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT USE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, KEEP YOUR GOOD EMPLOYEES.
68 WHAT? WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN FOUR 12.
DOES THAT INCLUDE YOU IN THERE? YES.
THE OTHER REQUEST IS DEPARTMENT 5 43.
UM, THIS IS FOR A FIRE MARSHAL.
THERE WAS A QUE A REQUEST TO RAISE THE SECRETARY POSITION, UM, 5% TO $50,820.
AND ALSO TO LOWER HIS PART-TIME.
HE HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED TO INCREASE HIS PART-TIME LINE BY 15,000.
HE'S ASKING TO JUST REQUEST IT BY, TO INCREASE IT BY 7,000.
SO IN THE, IN THE STUDY THAT I ASK YOU FOR, IS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THERE WITH THE UP OR DOWN WHERE IT'S GOING? YES, YES.
I I, SEAN, WE HAD A QUESTION WHILE YOU WERE OUT.
AND THAT IS THE POSITION THAT IS, UH, UH, THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL POSITION.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER THAT IS CURRENTLY AT YOUR
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PLACE NOW, CORRECT.THAT IS BEING, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE FUNDING HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO PRECINCT ONE, BUT THEN WE'RE TOLD THAT YOU NEED THAT POSITION AS WELL.
WHAT FOR, UM, THE MAJORITY OF, OF THAT INDIVIDUAL'S WORK IS, IS FIRE MARSHAL WORK.
UM, HE DOES DO SOME ENVIRONMENTAL, I WAS APPROACHED BY THE CONSTABLE AND ASKED IF THAT, UM, THAT WORK COULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CONSTABLE.
UM, AND I SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE, PROVIDED I DIDN'T LOSE ANY INDIVIDUALS OR EQUIPMENT.
UM, WE NEED, WE'RE DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL NOW AND WE CAN STILL DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
UM, AND I I AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME WITHOUT A DOUBT TO DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, IT, IT TAKE NO, NO QUESTION.
IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME, BUT, BUT WE'RE ALSO USING THAT INDIVIDUAL TO AUGMENT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AS WELL.
'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE MUCH BUSIER THAN WE, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST WITH BURN BANDS AND VIOLATIONS AND, AND, UH, INVESTIGATING FIRES.
SO FOR OUR BENEFIT AND, AND THE, UH, IN YOUR OFFICE, THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DEDICATED TO FIRE MARSHAL OR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES? YES, SIR.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE WORKING? THERE'S THREE.
THERE'S FULL, FULL FOUR TIME, FOUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS IN MY OFFICE.
I HAVE A SECRETARY OF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UM, I HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICER MYSELF.
AND THEN, UH, RANDY, WHICH IS, UH, CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.
I, I GET, I DIDN'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE HAD GROWN IN THE TIME THAT YOU'D BEEN HERE FROM TWO PART-TIME GUYS TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING DONE.
I'M JUST, THIS NEEDS TO BE, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND.
AND IN FACT, WE'RE ASKING FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSITION THAN, AND THE POSITION THAT YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH YOU THAT WAS ENVIRONMENTAL SLASH FIRE MARSHAL WILL CONTINUE JUST AS FIRE MARSHAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WAS, WAS MY INITIAL PLAN WAS WHEN I WAS APPROACHED TO GIVE UP THE ENVIRONMENTAL YES.
'CAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WORK FOR, FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO DO.
BUT I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO, TO MOVING ENVIRONMENTAL IF I LOST THE POSITION.
I'M, I'M NOT QUESTIONING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE FACTS OUT FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE NEW PAY SCALE FOR DEPUTIES.
DID DO I NEED TO SPEAK ON, UH, SECRETARY POSITION ON THAT? I, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE HANGING OUT THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
UM, THIS POSITION HAS, LAST YEAR WAS BEHIND AS WELL.
UM, HER POSITION WITHIN THE OTHER POSITIONS OF THAT SAME SCALE, UH, SHE'S THAT POSITIONED IS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IN MY OFFICE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT.
UNDERSTAND, THIS IS ABOUT THE STEP IN GRADE AND STUFF.
THE, THE FIRST SHEET, UM, IT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR PAY SCALE INCORPORATED WITH, UH, WHAT WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST DID.
UM, THE PROPOSED PAY RESTRUCTURE THAT WE SUBMITTED THIS YEAR WOULD'VE GOTTEN US PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
UH, WEATHERFORD THREW US A CURVE BALL.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT ON, ON THEIR SHEET.
UH, THEY WENT UP TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, THEY, WE KNOW WE'RE COMPETING IN THE METROPLEX MARKETPLACE, BUT WE KNOW WE ARE NOT THE METROPLEX.
OUR, OUR GOAL WAS TO COMPETE WITH WEATHERFORD.
AND, UH, WE DO ACTUALLY VIE FOR THE SAME FOLKS.
WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE ANOTHER, WE'RE NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH A, OUR PROPOSED PAY SCALE.
WE HAD 'EM ON ENTRY LEVEL, WE HAD 'EM FOR YEARS.
WE COULD GET THE FOLKS IN THE DOOR, THEN THEY WOULD CATCH US AND THEN SURPASS US WITH YEARS OF SERVICE.
UH, THEY'VE COMPRESSED THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE WHERE THEY MAX OUT AND THEY'VE DONE IT BY LIKE
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20,000 PLUS IN THOSE POSITIONS.SO I'M NOT ONLY GONNA JUST ASK FOR OUR PROPOSAL ON OUR PAY SCALE, BUT ANY COST OF LIVING THAT YOU COULD PUT ON TOP OF THAT.
AND I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH YEAR TO ASK, BUT WE PROBABLY WOULD NEED ANOTHER 10% ON TOP OF THAT JUST TO GET US CLOSE.
AND I WOULD BE BACK NEXT YEAR ASKING FOR MORE.
UM, WE, WE ARE IN A DIRECT COMPETITION WITH THESE PEOPLE.
NOT ONLY DID THEY DO THAT, THEY APPROVED, UH, I THINK THREE FIREFIGHTERS, I THINK SIX PATROL OFFICERS THIS YEAR AND TWO DISPATCHERS.
UH, THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR TAX RATE, UH, TWO AND THREE QUARTER CENTS FOR THIS TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND, UH, WE KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
I THINK THE LAST, ONE OF THE LAST BUDGET SESSIONS, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR FOLKS OUT THERE ANSWERING CALLS.
THEY AVERAGE JUST OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF SERVICE OUR GUYS ON THE STREET AND GALS ANSWERING CALLS.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT CITIES ARE ALWAYS GONNA TRY TO PAY AND TYPICALLY DOES PAY MORE.
AND, AND IT HAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF, UM, COST TO THE, TO THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S GONNA ALWAYS BE A CHALLENGE TO DO THAT.
I'M I'M NOT SAYING NO TO THIS AT ALL.
UH, IT'S GONNA UNDERSTAND A CHALLENGE.
WE THERE, WE, WE KNOW WE JUST HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THEM.
BUT, BUT ALSO BACK ON THAT, A THIRD OF OUR DEPUTIES ON THE STREET HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR WITH US ALSO.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
WELL, WELL, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT.
I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TIMES AND I KNOW PUBLIC SAFETY'S AN EXPENSIVE, UH, ORDEAL AND IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND, UH, BUT I JUST APPRECIATE ANY CONSIDERATION THAT YOU'D GIVE US.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR BUDGET IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT EVERYBODY, AND, AND, AND Y'ALL HAVE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AND Y'ALL HAVE SUPPORTED PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, LIKE NO OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COURT EVER IN OTHER COUNTIES.
IT, IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO WHAT Y'ALL DO.
AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THE COUNTY APPRECIATES THAT AND THE CITIZENS APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL, FROM A STANDPOINT, FROM COUNTIES OUR SIZE, AND I THINK WE LOOKED AT THIS BRIANNA, THAT, UM, OUR PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET TO THE SHERIFF'S REALLY KIND OF IN LINE OR WHO IS THIS SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION WITH? UM, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY IN LINE WITH OTHER COUNTIES OUR SIZE.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE WAY OVER OR WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S FRIVOLOUS OR NOT BEING SMART ABOUT, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND, AND DO THE BEST WE CAN.
BUT PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, THE LAST HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND LOOKED AT THIS WE'RE IN, IN LINE WITH MAY BE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN SOME COUNTIES OUR SIZE.
SO, UH, WHAT'S WE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
LIKE, LIKE MARK LONG SAID, AND THEN, AND OUR GUYS AND GALS, THEY, THEY, THEY LOVE WORKING HERE, BUT IT ALSO COMES DOWN EVENTUALLY YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY.
AND IF YOU GO NOW ACROSS THE STREET AND GET $20,000 MORE IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO SAY NO.
SO, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR IMPACT OF THIS PAY SCALE AND THEN THE 10% COLA? CAN WE TALK THOSE NUMBERS? BECKY HAS THOSE NUMBERS.
WELL, I HEARD 10% THE SAME TIME Y'ALL DID.
SO
UM, THE CHIEF JUST, I'M USING HIS PHONE IS GONNA BE A LITTLE OVER 1.2.
I WOULD GUESS IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AROUND 1.5.
I'M GONNA MOVE WITH APPROVE THE PAY SCALE AT THIS TIME.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION FOR WHEN NOW WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
WHICH PAY SCALE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED PAY SCALE, ORIGINAL PAY.
I, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE, UM, DELAY SO THAT WE CAN GET, UH, I'M, I'VE ASKED, UH, MS. MCCULLOUGH TO BRING US A LIST OF EVERYBODY'S SALARIES, SEE WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE, NEED TO BE SOME TWEAKING IN, IN WITHIN THAT.
UH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY, UH, UH, SO THAT, SO THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.
HOW'S THAT? AND I DON'T HAVE ANY, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE WAY BEHIND WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITHOUT A DOUBT.
UH, NO MISTAKES THERE, BUT UM, LIKE WITH SOME OF THESE OTHERS, WHEN WE DO A PERCENTAGE, IT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY A, UH, I MEAN ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN ADDITION TO THE 3% THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR YOU I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE RIGHT.
SEE IN ADDITION, BUT NOT THE 10%.
BECKY, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAVING THAT
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DETAILED INFORMATION FOR US? WELL, I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ALREADY STARTED IT AND SO NOW I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND ADD ANOTHER LAYER TO IT.I JUST LIKE, AND I COULD TIE TOTAL COST TO ALL OF IT.
AND I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED AT ALL.
I'M JUST SAY I WANT TO SEE IT.
OKAY, SO YOU GOT ANOTHER LAYER YOU NEED TO ADD.
AND, AND THE CHIEF HAS DONE A LOT OF THE WORK.
I MEAN, AND I HAVE COPIES OF EVERYTHING UP TO, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE I SAID, 10%, THAT WAS A NEW NUMBER FOR ME TO HEAR, BUT UH, I MEAN I CAN GIVE YOU COPIES OF THESE THAT SCALE PLUS FIVE, BUT YOU COULD GIVE US THE INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED WITH THAT ADDITIONAL TACT ON THERE.
I CAN JUST ADD THE 10 ON THAT AS WELL AS ANOTHER COLUMN.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
NOW, UH, DOES THAT, IS THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY INCLUDE THE 10%? NO, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, COULD WE NOT HAVE VOTE ON THIS NOW, ON WHAT WE HAVE WITH WHAT YOUR MOTION IS AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER WE CAN DO THE 10% OR NOT.
CAN WE NOT DO THAT? WELL, BECKY SAYS SHE HAS SOME MORE FIGURES SHE WANTS TO GIVE US, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER WE WERE ABLE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE NOW, UH, CHIEF IS THIS, UM, IS THAT 10% INSIDE THIS NUMBER ALREADY? NO, ORIGINALLY WE HAD SET THE PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, THE PAYSCALE RESTRUCTURE, UH, BECKY HAD THOSE NUMBERS, THEN WE ADDED ON POSSIBLY 3% IN ADDITION TO THAT AND A 5%.
AND THEN WHEN WEATHERFORD THREW THIS CURVE BALL AT US, UH, OKAY, I I KIND OF THREW OUT THAT MAYBE IN ANOTHER 10% JUST TO GET US OKAY.
I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE 10 PER NOT 10%.
UH, BUT FOR THIS NEW PAY SCALE, COULD WE NOT VOTE ON THAT AND THEN LOOK AT THE 10, WHETHER WE CAN DO THE 10 OR NOT.
I MOVE TO TABLE THIS MOTION UNTIL THE NEXT COURT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE DO, I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HELD TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION.
WELL, I, I WAS, WE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO TABLE IT.
SO I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE LOOK AT.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED, I JUST WANNA HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION INFORMED DECISION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THIS IS FOR THE TABLE.
WHEN IS THE NEXT COURT? JUST 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA TAKE ME A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE SCHEDULED THIS WEEK, CORRECT? UH, NO.
JUST SO I KNOW, 'CAUSE THIS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO BREAK IT ALL OUT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS FOR YOU? WELL, I HAD A QUESTION THAT WAS REGARDING THE, UH, THE BUDGET, BUT WE HAD ASKED, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER WALDEN WALDEN HAD ASKED FOR A LIST IF WE COULD GET A, A COMPILED LIST OF UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ABIDE BY AND GET A TOTAL OF THAT, WHAT THOSE WERE PROVIDED IT'S HERE.
YEAH, THIS, AND I WOULDN'T SAY
THERE'S, THERE'S A TON OF THOSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STATE.
BUT THAT WHAT, WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WHAT YOU ASKED FOR CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS AND I PROVIDED WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.
THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER, I THINK, THINK THEY'RE SUB SUBMITTED TO US TODAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OF THAT ITEMS I HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL, UM, I WAS ASKED JUST TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK DOWN, I'D PROVIDED YOU ALL THE, UM, PROPOSED TAX RATES AND HOW THE DIFFERENT RATES, UM, EQUATE TO REVENUE AS WELL AS WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE TAXPAYER, UM, TAX IMPACT.
AND SO I'VE PROVIDED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON THAT FOR YOU ALL.
UM, I WAS GONNA ASK, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE A, A SUMMARY OF THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN THUS FAR, UH, BY EMAIL RATHER THAN THAT OUR NEXT COURT, IF YOU COULD GET IT, PROVIDE US WITH THOSE AS SOON AS THOSE ARE PUT TOGETHER ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF HOW MUCH WE'VE APPROVED THUS FAR, I CAN DO THAT.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE HAD BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST COURT WAS THAT THE VOTE
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ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE WILL BE FOR MONDAY.UM, AND SO THE QUESTION IS WHEN WHEN ARE YOU ALL THINKING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? BECAUSE ON THE 11TH WHEN YOU ALL VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE THE DISCUSSION OF TIME AND PLACE ON WHEN THE TAX RATE WILL ACTUALLY BE ADOPTED.
AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, IT WOULD EITHER BE, I BELIEVE THE 18TH OR THE 25TH.
I FEEL THE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS EVERY TIME WE'LL BE VOTING ON A, A TAX RATE THAT IS PROPOSED, MEANING THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY HIGHER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT'S APPROVED AT THAT SETTING.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WILL BE SET ON SEPTEMBER 25TH.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE THE, THERE WOULD BE EITHER THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 18TH OR THE 25TH, UM, AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ADOPTED, BUT THEN IT WOULD BE ADOPTED ON THE 25TH.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW IF WE'RE ADOPTING THE BUDGET ON THE 25TH IN ORDER TO HAVE THE BUDGET FINALIZED, I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE IS GOING TO BE.
SO IT MAY NOT BE SETTING IT, I MEAN IT MAY JUST BE I'M PUTTING IN WHAT THE PROPOSED IS.
UM, UNLESS WE, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING ON THE 18TH TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS THERE.
THAT MAY TAKE A LONG TIME AND, AND WE COULD DO THAT IS HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 18TH, BUT THEN IT WOULD NOT BE ADOPTED TILL THE 25TH AND THE 25TH IS OUR REGULAR COURT DATE.
WITH MANY OTHER ITEMS. RIGHT, RIGHT.
WHICH INCLUDES THE, YOU KNOW, ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET ON THAT DAY.
AND SO, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, IN ORDER TO, IF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE 18TH AND ON THE 11TH, UH, THE PROPOSED, UM, NOTICE HAS TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN IT HAS TO GO DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, TO THE DEMOCRATS SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE PUBLISHED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE.
UM, AND THEN LET THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOTE AND WHAT THE PROPOSED, UH, TAX RATE WOULD BE, NEEDS TO GET TO THEM SO THAT WAY THEY CAN GENERATE THE NOTICE FOR PUBLISHING.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN ON THE 18TH AND THEN ADOPTION THE 25TH.
BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE ADJOURNMENT, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE, I MEAN THESE ARE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THESE BEFORE I ADJOURN? COME ON UP.
I, I HAD MENTIONED THIS BEFORE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
I'VE GOT TWO DEPUTIES THAT WEAR UNIFORMS EVERY DAY.
I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS APPRECIATE THE MARKED VEHICLES AND THE UNIFORM PRESENCE AND, UM, I, IF ANYTHING IS APPROVED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN REGARDS TO, UH, UNIFORM ALLOWANCES AND CELL PHONES AND THAT, UH, TYPE OF THING, I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT MY TWO DEPUTIES GET THAT SAME THING.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT JUST, JUST 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T, UH, MANAGE SOMETHING TODAY.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WON'T COME BACK UP.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE AGENDA ITEMS AND UH, THERE'LL BE TIME ALSO AT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM FIVE ON THE ADJOURNMENT.
IS THAT MOTION FOR ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN A SECOND.
RECORDS SHOW THAT WE ADJOURN 1148.