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UH, GOOD MORNING.[Call to Order]
GONNA GET STARTED ON THIS, UH, UH, PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET AGENDA.UM, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2023.
RECORDS SHOW IT'S 9:00 AM UH, TO SKIDDERS AND JUST CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM ONE, DISCUSS
[I.A. Discuss/Approve General Fund Budget for FY2023-2024. (Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]
APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 23, 20 24, BUDGET FISCAL YEAR, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ITEM A DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 2023.SO I PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME PAPERS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IS THE SUMMARY.
SO WHEN WE STARTED, UM, WHEN WE FILED THE PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT FIRST COURT, WE WENT THROUGH A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS.
UM, SO NOW I'M GONNA GO OVER WHERE WE'RE AT AS A FINAL PRELIM BUDGET.
SO THE TOP SECTION JUST GOES THROUGH OUR TAX RATE, UH, THE GENERAL FUND, M AND O, UH, OUR INTEREST IN SINKING FOR DEBT SERVICE, AS WELL AS OUR LATERAL ROAD, UM, IN BRIDGE FUND.
AND SO IT SHOWS THE CURRENT, UH, TAX RATE, WHICH IS 0.3 1 2, 3, 3 6 IN TOTAL, AS WELL AS WHAT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS OF 0.2 8 7 0 9 8, AND THEN, UH, BEING A DECREASE ABOUT 2.50 CENTS.
AND AGAIN, IF WE, IF WE RECALL, WHAT THAT PROPOSED TAX RATE IS, UM, ON THE M AND O SIDE, IT'S ABOUT, UH, 3 CENTS ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND, UH, WE ARE USING 1.75 MILLION OF INTEREST IN SINKING FUND BALANCE TO DECREASE THAT RATE OF ABOUT THE 0.046.
AND THEN THE LATERAL ROADIN BRIDGE IS AT A HALF CENT ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
UH, SO IF WE LOOK AT THAT FROM OUR CURRENT, UM, PROPERTY TAX PROJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED WITH THESE RATE, IT'S ABOUT, UM, A LITTLE ABOUT 11.9, UM, INCREASE.
SO 9.3 FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
UH, 705,000 FOR INTEREST IN SINKING, AND THEN ABOUT 1.9, UH, FOR LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE MIDDLE ONE? WHAT WAS THE WHAT? UH, 705,000 FOR DEBT SERVICE.
THIS, THIS NEXT SECTION JUST GOES THROUGH OUR DEBT SERVICE.
IN 2023, IT WAS ABOUT 12 MILLION.
AND THEN IN 2024, IT'S ABOUT 11 POINT, UM, NINE.
WE WILL START TO SEE THAT, UM, INCREASE JUST BASED ON HOW THE, UH, DEBT IS STRUCTURED FOR THE LAST DRAWDOWNS AND REFUNDINGS WE DID.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE 2023 ADOPTED BUDGET, UH, TOTAL EXPENSES WERE 71 POINT ALMOST 7 MILLION, UM, WITH 9.3 MILLION.
UM, BALANCING THAT BUDGET, UH, WITH, WITH FUND BALANCE, IF WE LOOK AT NOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS DO NOT INCLUDE ANY CONTINGENCIES.
I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT WE, UM, INCLUDE A SIZABLE CONTINGENCY.
UH, SO TOTAL EXPENSES AT THIS POINT ARE 77 MILLION WITH AT THE CURRENT PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY TAX RATES.
UM, THE USE OF FUND BALANCE IS ABOUT 3.4 MILLION.
IF WE LOOK AT THAT IN COMPARISON TO THE, UH, 2023 ADOPTED BUDGET, IT'S ABOUT 5.3 MILLION DIFFERENCE.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO CONTINGENCIES IN IN THE PROPOSED AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE STARTED OFF WITH 1.1, UM, IN CONTINGENCY.
AND THEN IF WE GO DOWN THE SUMMARY OF CHANGES, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 11.8 UH, MILLION OF APPROVALS.
UM, AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT THAT, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN GENERAL FUND IS SB 22, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY ARE IN A SEPARATE FUND.
BUT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHEN, UM, EQUIPMENT'S GONNA COME IN AND, AND HOW EXACTLY WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT GRANT, WE'RE GONNA BUDGET IT, UM, AND THEN MOVE THOSE EXPENDITURES LATER.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN REVENUE IS, IS FROM THE CHANGE IN THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.
UM, AND I SEE THAT DID NOT PRINT.
OKAY, SO THIS NEXT SHEET IS THE ACTUAL DETAIL OF THE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT I PRESENT AT EACH COURT, UM, WITH A BREAKDOWN, UM, OF SALARY ADJUSTMENTS OF TWO POINT, ALMOST 2.7 MILLION.
UM, IF WE LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER FROM THE PRIOR COURT THAT I PRESENTED AT, IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, A LOT HIGHER THAN THAT.
UM, WHEN ALL OF THE SALARY AND BENEFITS NUMBERS GET ADDED IN, UM, ONE THING THAT'S ALSO UPDATED IS INSURANCE CHANGES.
SO WHEN WE ARE ADOPTING THIS BUDGET, OPEN ENROLLMENT, UM, FOR PLAN CHANGES BEGIN IN JANUARY.
SO IT'S ON A CALENDAR YEAR VERSUS OUR FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO, UM, BECKY GOES THROUGH AND UPDATES THOSE CHANGES FROM
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LAST YEAR.SO IN SOME YEARS, WE MAY HAVE AN INCREASE, UM, IN OTHER YEARS IN THIS YEAR PARTICULARLY, IT'S A DE DECREASE.
SO IT HELPS, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE APPROVALS, AGAIN, WHEN WE BUDGET FOR NEW POSITIONS, WE HAVE TO BUDGET AT THE HIGHEST 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT INDIVIDUAL'S GONNA BE.
SO IF A NEW EMPLOYEE'S HIRED AND THEY ARE AN OPT-OUT OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OTHER THAN A FAMILY P P O PLAN, THEN, THEN THAT'S SAVINGS.
SO THE NUMBER I HAD PRESENTED TO YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY WAS AROUND, UM, IT WAS OVER 3 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, NOW IT'S, IT'S 2.7, THEN WE GO THROUGH, UM, AND THEN THE OPERATING EXPENSE CHANGES.
AND SO I'VE GONE THROUGH, I THINK EACH OF THESE.
BUT AS WE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT PLACES WHERE WE COULD PAY WITH SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS OR A DEPARTMENT HAS COME TO ME THAT THEY WERE SHORT IN, IN ONE OF THEIR OPERATING LINES AND LOOKING AT AS WE'RE GETTING, UM, CLOSER TO THE END OF THE YEAR, THESE ARE THOSE CHANGES THERE.
AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION IS CAP, NON CAP AND IT APPROVALS, UM, AS WELL AS THEN CAPITAL, UM, AND NON CAP FOR NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE ROLLOVERS FOR F Y 23.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN AN EVER-CHANGING NUMBER.
AND EVEN JUST AS OF YESTERDAY, WE'RE STILL HAVING CHANGES.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS BOTTOM BOX ON THIS SPREADSHEET.
UM, SO WITH THE PROPERTY TAX PROJECTIONS AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WHEN WE STARTED, ALL OF THESE APPROVALS AND CHANGES WOULD REQUIRE 10 POINT, ALMOST TWO, UH, MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED TAX RATE, IT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE, UM, 3.5 MILLION.
AGAIN, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE CONTINGENCIES, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED TO ADJUST FOR THAT.
SO WE STARTED OFF THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH ABOUT 65.2 MILLION IN EXPENSES.
THERE'S BEEN APPROVALS OF 11.8, UM, TO BRING THE BUDGET TO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 77 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, IF WE COMPARE THAT TO THE PRIOR YEAR ADOPTED BUDGET, IT'S ABOUT THREE 5.3, UM, MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THAT.
AND SO THIS NEXT SPREADSHEET BREAKS IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER WITH BY DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, UM, FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE GENERAL FUND AND THEN ALL OF OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, IT SHOWS WHERE WE STARTED WITH ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THEN BREAKS IT OUT BY DEPARTMENT, UM, CAP, NON CAP, UH, APPROVALS, ROLLOVERS, THE NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS, SALARY ADJUSTMENTS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST OTHER OPERATING ADJUSTMENTS TO GET TO THE TOTAL, UM, PRELIM BUDGET.
AND SO THE TOP PORTION YOU CAN SEE IS, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE.
THE NEXT PORTION, UM, IS GENERAL FUNDS.
SO IT'S BROKEN OUT BY REVENUE AS WELL AS THEN THE EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT AND THOSE TOTAL, UH, PROJECTED BUDGETS.
AND THEN THE NEXT TWO PAGES YOU WILL SEE ARE ALL SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, UM, SPECIFICALLY I HAVE, UM, MOST, I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS TO ENTER.
SO, UM, I DON'T EXPECT ANY, UM, MATERIAL CHANGES TO THESE NUMBERS.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME, YOU KNOW, SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, UM, HERE AND THERE IF I SEE SOMETHING WHILE I'M, WHILE I'M ENTERING.
BUT, UM, I'M ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT FINISHED WITH THAT.
BRIANNA, DID MR. BOSCO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE 2016 TRANSPORTATION BOND YESTERDAY AT ALL? NO.
SO ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT THERE ARE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH SOUND MM-HMM.
I HAD AN INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH MR. BOSCO, BUT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IT ON MONDAY A BIT MORE, UM, REGARDING WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH REMAINING FUNDS IN THE 16 BOND.
UH, JUST GIVING YOU A HEADS UP, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DISCUSS THAT MONDAY, BUT WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE.
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TO, UH, ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR CONTINGENCY.
YES, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS WE HAVE.
UM, I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE HAD 1.5, UM, IN CONTINGENCY.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, I WAS GONNA LOOK AT THAT, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD ALMOST SAY MAYBE ALLOCATING 2 MILLION.
JUST, AND AGAIN, ANYTIME WE'RE TAKING ANYTHING FROM CONTINGENCY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING THROUGH COURT, THERE'S APPROVAL, SO IT'S NOT JUST BEING, BEING MOVED, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S UM, YOU KNOW, SOME LARGER PROJECTS, UM, GOING INTO THIS
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NEXT YEAR, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO BUDGET OUR CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATELY.I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT REALLY GETTING EVERYTHING OUT IN THE LAST MEETING, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY DRASTIC CHANGES TODAY TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.
AND I DON'T WANNA BE IMPLYING THE OINTMENT HERE.
THERE IS A, A TOPIC I WANT TO, I WANT TO BRING BACK UP UNDER THIS DISCUSSION, UM, IS REALLY WHAT IS I, I CONSIDER A OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COURT TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND AGAIN, SIX MONTHS AGO WE WERE NUMBER NINE IN THE NATION IN GROWTH.
AND NUMBER SIX, TODAY, SIX MONTHS LATER, WE'VE DROPPED THAT NUMBER DOWN TO SIX.
AND THAT BRINGS RESPONSIBILITY, THAT BRINGS A, A OBLIGATION, I THINK, FOR THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES.
UH, ONE IS THE COURT SYSTEM, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING GROWTH AND TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS THAT TRANSLATES INTO, UM, INCREASE WITH THE TAX ACCESSORY.
IT JUST, IT HAS A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT TO, TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY, UH, TO THE PRECINCTS, TO MY OFFICE, TO EVERY SINGLE FUNCTION IN THIS COUNTY.
UM, THERE'S ONE THING THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING HERE IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THE, ON THE, ON THE STUDY.
AND, AND, AND THIS REALLY IS, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BUILDING A JUSTICE CENTER HERE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT INITIAL DISCUSSION WAS KIM, THAT WE, WHEN WE MET WITH THAT ONE COMPANY THAT THEY FACTORED IN EVERYTHING, THE WHOLE ENCHILADA ON MARKETING THE BOND AND ALL THAT, WE'RE NOT EVEN NEAR THAT.
UM, BUT FOR A STUDY FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN JUST PUSH THAT TO THE NEXT YEAR.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR.
WE PUSHED IT TO THIS YEAR, AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
WE'RE PUSHING IT TO THE YEAR AGAIN.
AND I MEAN, I TALKED TO, UH, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, HE IS IMMENSELY SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, AND I WISH HE WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP DOING THIS AND PUSHING THIS DOWN 'CAUSE THAT PUSHES IT OUT A YEAR WHEN THE NEED IS HERE NOW AND IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.
BUT THE, THE JUSTICE CENTER, ALL THAT, THE STUDY, AT LEAST NOTHING ELSE THAT STUDY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND LOOKING AT THIS, I MEAN A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO 150,000, IS IT GONNA BREAK US WHEN WE HAVE, AND WE CAN ADD TO THAT CONTINGENCY.
WE'VE BEEN VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE, GOING ABOVE THE, THE KNOWN NEW TAX RATE.
BUT, AND WE HAVE NOT, THERE'S PARTS OF THIS BUDGET WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONSERVATIVE ON.
WE HAVE GIVEN AND, AND RIGHTLY SO, TO, TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMITTED TO THAT.
UM, AND, AND FUNDED THAT AS WE SHOULD BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH HERE, WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE.
WE'VE, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THAT NUMBER THAT WE PULLED, UH, CLEARLY SHOWS OUR COMMITMENT TO THAT, TO GIVE THESE COMMISSIONERS THE NEED, UM, THAT THEY HAVE AND THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO, TO MAKE SURE THE ROADS ARE BEING FIXED.
BUT TO PUSH THIS OUT, I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE LUXURY TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, ACCEPT THE FACT AND, AND THE OBLIGATION THAT WHAT DOES THE COUNTY DO? IT PROVIDES TO THE COURT SYSTEM, UH, AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN STEPPING UP AND DOING THAT.
WE KEEP PUSHING THIS DOWN THE ROAD.
ALL WE'RE ASKING HERE TO DO IS THE STUDY.
I MEAN, THAT STARTS THERE TO GET US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE AND THEN LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR ON HOW DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT? BUT WE, WE WE'RE GOING BLIND.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA PUSH THIS DOWN THE ROAD TO THE POINT WHERE THIS DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
AND I THINK FOR A HUNDRED, 150,000 FOR THE WHOLE BUDGET OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER $70 MILLION IS JUST, IT'S A DISREGARD FOR THE OVERALL.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE WHAT MORE THAN JUST ROADS.
AND WE'RE DOING THE BOND ELECTION AND, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA GO REALLY WELL.
IT'S GONE WELL, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WE'RE STEPPING UP.
WE'RE MAKING OUR, OUR OFFICERS COMPETITIVE TO, TO, TO THE CITIES.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT TO, I THINK WE NEED TO BROADLY LOOK AT THIS FROM 10,000 FOOT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT COMES WITH THE OBLIGATION OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING IS AT LEAST DO THE STUDY.
AND, AND SO I WOULD ASK THIS COURT TO RECONSIDER THIS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT YOUR NUMBERS AND, AND EVERYTHING'S PLUGGED IN AND THAT'S GREAT.
AND I DON'T WANNA BE THE BLIND, THE OINTMENT, I'M SURE YOU'RE WANTING TO KILL ME HERE.
HAVING TO LINE IS OKAY, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO TO, TO AT LEAST HAVE A STUDY ON THIS.
AND OUR OWN COUNTY ATTORNEY IS, IS, IS AGREED THAT THAT AT LEASE SHOULD BE DONE.
AND NOW I HAVE A, A ATTORNEY, OR SORRY, A DISTRICT JUDGE SHOW UP AND I'M NOT DOING THIS 'CAUSE YOU'RE SITTING BACK THERE, JUDGE.
BUT, UH, THIS WAS GONNA BE BROUGHT UP REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU WALKED IN THAT DOOR OR NOT.
BUT I THINK IF YOU TALK TO THESE JUDGES AND, AND LOOK AT THE OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE FROM THE CASELOAD, AND EVEN IN MY COURT, THE GROWTH IS, IS, IS WHERE IT'S FORCING US TO
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MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO IT TO OFFSET THAT GROWTH.UH, NOT ONLY IN IN PROBATE, BUT ALSO IN IN GUARDIANSHIPS AND MENTAL HEARINGS, WHICH I HAD TWO YESTERDAY.
UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW THAT NUMBER.
BUT TO, TO JUST PUSH THAT INTO THE NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST PUT THIS BACK OUT HERE TO RECONSIDER THAT.
JUST AT LEAST GET THAT STARTED ON THIS.
WE DON'T, WE SHOULDN'T JUST LOOK AT ONE OR TWO COMPONENTS OF, OF THE BUDGET AND LOOK AT THAT AND FUND THAT AND COMMIT TO THAT AND IGNORE SOME OTHER OBLIGATIONS THAT I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS.
JUDGE QUISENBERRY, DO EITHER OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY INPUT FOR US?
UH, YOU WANNA SPEAK TO SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THE JEFFERSON, SO, WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY DOING YOUR REAL JOBS AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WATCHING EVERY MINUTE OF OUR BUDGET SESSIONS ANXIOUSLY.
BUT WE HAD A, UH, WE HAD A 1 MILLION LINE ITEM, 100, A MILLION DOLLAR LINE ITEM FOR A STUDY.
REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, THE REAL NUMBER IS GONNA BE MORE LIKE 150,000.
AND WHAT THIS WOULD BE IS A STUDY TO ASSESS THAT'S AT THE MOST, THAT'S AT THE MOST, THAT'S A STUDY TO ASSESS OUR NEEDS TO DETERMINE HOW BIG OF A FACILITY WE HA OR WE NEED AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK YET.
WELL, I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU, WE HAVEN'T BEEN SENDING THESE RESOLUTIONS UP HERE FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS JUST BECAUSE WE WANNA TAKE OUR TIME DOING IT.
WE SEND YOU THE RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
AND I THINK JUDGE JOHNSON, ME JUDGE TOWSON, OUR PREDECESSORS ARE IN A POSITION TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED AS FAR AS THE JUSTICE CENTER HERE.
AND WE TOLD Y'ALL THAT TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
AND SO ONE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP DECADES AGO IS BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE THAT LA THAT LAND WAS GONNA BECOME MORE SCARCE AND THE OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECT WAS GONNA BE INCREASING.
AND GUESS WHAT? THAT'S JUST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
AND SO WE CAN ALL GET OUT HERE ON THE INTERSTATE AT NOON AND SIT IN THE TRAFFIC JAM.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S OUTSIDE OUR WINDOW AND IF WE DON'T GET THIS THING DONE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTY.
IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF OR IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN.
AND SO, UH, I REALLY DON'T KNOW MORE THAN I CAN SAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN THE RESOLUTIONS TO THIS COURT AND YOU HAVE TO GET A STUDY DONE.
IT'S NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT, JUST ASK THEM IN HOOD COUNTY, JUST ASK THEM IN JOHNSON COUNTY, JUST ASK THEM IN TARRANT COUNTY AND THEY'LL TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE IT.
THEY'RE ALREADY EQUIPPED FOR THE FUTURE.
THEY'VE DONE IT AND WE HAVEN'T.
COMMISSIONER QUITE FRANKLY, APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND, AND I'LL, I'LL ADD SOMETHING TO IT.
UM, THE DISTRICT COURTS ACTUALLY HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SUPPORT A THIRD DISTRICT COURT THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE STATE, BUT THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT IT.
SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SO MANY, THEIR CASELOAD IS SO HIGH THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR A THIRD DISTRICT COURT.
WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT 'EM.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER MOTIVATING FACTORS IS THAT THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF ALL THE BUSINESS THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOO MUCH BUSINESS.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR A NOVICE QUESTION.
WHEN YOU SAY FUNDED BY THE STATE, WOULD THAT OFFSET OUR ONGOING COSTS FOR SUCH A LOCATION IF AND WHEN? NO, NO.
WHAT I MEAN TO SAY IS THE STATE COVERS THEIR SALARIES AND SOME OTHER EXPENSES OF A DISTRICT COURT THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO FUND.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SUPPORT PERSONS IN AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AS YOU KNOW.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LINE ITEMS FOR THE BUDGET.
BUT THE STATE COVERS SOME OF IT.
SO, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT ABOUT EFFICIENCIES TOO.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT'S OVER THERE.
WE GOT A DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT HAS, DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.
WE HAVE PROBATION DOWN THE ROAD AND IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INEFFICIENT AND IT COSTS MORE MONEY TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT FACILITIES FOR COURTS AND TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COUNTY ATTORNEYS OR AND DA'S OFFICE.
AND IT'S JUST, IT MEANS A WHOLE LOT OF RUNNING AROUND AND, AND A WHOLE LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES FOR JUDGES, FOR PROBATIONERS, FOR PROBATION STAFF, FOR ATTORNEYS, FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE TO RUN TO ALL THESE THINGS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST INEFFICIENT.
IT COSTS MONEY, TAXPAYER MONEY.
SO, UM, DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
SO IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO DO A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES THAT YOU WOULD GAIN BY
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HAVING ONE BUILDING AND THEN EVERYBODY UNDER THE BUILDING.UM, AND I ALSO THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED A COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, BUT THAT'S NOT MY DEAL.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO FIGURE OUT.
'CAUSE THAT SANTA FE IS 20 YEARS OVERDUE AND BEING FIXED.
BUT AS TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED IT.
SO A STUDY WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE IN ORDER.
SO AT LEAST YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PARAMETERS AND FIND OUT WHAT EFFICIENCIES THERE MIGHT BE IF YOU DID IT GIVEN, GIVEN WHAT Y'ALL HAVE SAID.
UM, I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, I'LL TELL YOU ONE MORE THING.
I WAS SET FOR JURY TRIAL THIS WEEK.
UM, A UH, FELONY PROSECUTION WITH A POTENTIAL FIVE TO 99 PRISON TERM.
AND SOME MOTIONS CAME UP REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW REGARDING DISCOVERY.
AND SO INITIALLY I HAVE 69 POTENTIAL JURORS STANDING OUT IN THE LOBBY OF OUR BUILDING, NOT SITTING, WELL, A FEW OF 'EM ARE SITTING, MOST OF 'EM ARE STANDING NOW.
I KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE AND I HAVE MOTIONS IN FRONT OF ME ARE VERY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO THE DEFENDANT WHO'S LOOKING AT FIVE TO 99, BUT THE STATE ALSO.
SO I FINAGLE AROUND, GET THE CASE IN THERE, TRY TO GET THIS SET UP SO WE CAN SEAT A JURY TO HEAR THE EVIDENCE IN THE CASE.
BUT WE STILL HAD THE PENDING MOTION.
SO I LET ULTIMATELY LET THE JURY GO, JURY PANEL GO AT NOON, THOUGHT I GAVE HER US PLENTY OF TIME, BUT NOT BEING CLAIRVOYANT.
GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL MOTION FROM THE DEFENSE, WHICH BEARS LOOKING AT.
I HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THAT JURY PANEL.
THEY STILL GET TO STAND OUT IN THE LOBBY.
AND FRANKLY
IT'S RUDE AND THERE'S BUSINESS TO HANDLE.
IF WE HAD A CENTRAL JURY ROOM LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTY OF OUR SIZE, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.
THAT PANEL WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE BEEN THERE AT THE COURTROOM YET BECAUSE WE'VE WOULD'VE HANDLED THIS ALL BEFORE THEY GOT THERE.
AND SO I RECESSED THE MOTION, I LET THAT JURY PANEL GO TO TRY THIS CASE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER JURY PANEL.
AND THE REASON WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER JURY PANEL IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CENTRAL JURY ROOM.
DO I SOUND FRUSTRATED? YOU BETCHA.
BECAUSE WE HAVE BUSINESS TO DO AND HONESTLY, I'LL NEVER SIT IN THIS FACILITY.
THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THIS COUNTY IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND WE NEED TO GET A STUDY DONE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ANY OF US IN THIS ROOM KNOW WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE PHYSICALLY NONE OF US.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON TO HAVE A STUDY RIGHT THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK GIVEN, GIVEN Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK, GIVEN THE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE SENT THAT I'VE READ, UH, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE MADE A VERY CONVINCING ARGUMENT.
CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA PRETEND THAT I KNOW YOUR JOB BETTER THAN YOU DO.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A STUDY UP TO $150,000 FOR A JUSTICE CENTER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? YEAH, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD WAS WE, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A NUMBER.
WE, WE WERE GIVEN A MILLION DOLLARS AND NOW WE'RE GUESSING AT 150.
IS THERE ANY DEFINITIVE AMOUNT THAT WE KNOW OF THAT THIS IS GOING TO COST? KIM, CAN YOU COME UP? ARE WE JUST GONNA SET THIS MONEY HERE AND OUT? KIM, CAN YOU COME UP AND GO OVER WHAT WE ALREADY DID GO OVER? WELL, I DID UPDATE THE COURT THE PAST TWO BUDGET SESSIONS THAT IT, I HAD SPOKEN WITH TWO OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT CONFIRMED IT WOULD BE PROBABLY AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT NO MORE THAN 150,000.
AND THESE ARE FIRMS THAT ARE NOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE R F Q AND THEY DID NOT SUBMIT RESPONSES.
THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS TYPE OF STUDY AND HAVE BEEN PARTICIPANTS IN OTHER STUDIES WITH TARRANT COUNTY, JOHNSON COUNTY, HOOD COUNTY AND, UH, 150 MAX.
WELL, AND TWO, AND THE, AND THE ONE THAT GAVE THE MILLION WAS I, I THINK TOOK IT AND, AND LOOKED AT IT FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT.
IF WE WENT TO A BOND, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NEAR THAT, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE MARKETING OF THAT BOND.
WE, WE, WE NEED TO PULL ALL THAT OUT OF THAT.
AND THAT WAS, IT WAS GONNA BE PROBABLY AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND AS WELL.
SO THAT'S NUMBER, THAT'S THREE.
SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER AND WE'RE NOT JUST GUESSING AT THIS.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY ON THAT.
THIS DOES INCLUDE THE 150 SHOULD INCLUDE THE
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MARKETING OF THE BOND.GET US TO THE POINT OF GOING TO THE MOTIVE FOR THE BOND.
THEY THINK THEY COULD CARVE THAT DOWN ACTUALLY, SO IT WOULD BE CHEAPER.
BUT ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ONLY THE STUDY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MR. RES? I'M SAYING THAT IT INCLUDES THE MARKETING FOR THE BOND.
WELL THAT ONE COMPANY, UH, THE, THE TWO OUTSIDE ENGINEERS THAT I SPOKE TO SAID THAT THIS SHOULD GET US TO THE POINT OF THE VOTERS.
SO THEY'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT ONE 50 FROM THOSE IT DOES THE STUDY PLUS PREPARES US FOR THE BOND.
IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF WE HAD SOMETHING LAYING HERE IN FRONT OF US THAT SAID THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE AT THIS POINT.
UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CONCEPT.
HOWEVER WE'RE BUYING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE BUYING FOR THE, THE AMOUNT RIGHT NOW.
I DID SEND YOU ALL THE COPY OF THE R F Q FOR THAT MASTER STUDY.
YOU SENT THAT OUT, THAT HAS ALL THOSE SPECIFICATIONS OF WHAT THIS WOULD INCLUDE.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
ARE WE GOING, ARE WE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THE JJ A E P FACILITY TODAY AS WELL? YEAH.
SO THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL BIG CHANGES COMING OUR WAY ON THAT TODAY.
WELL, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WEIGHS HEAVILY ON HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND IN THE COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE MANDATES AND THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ARE.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL, WE KNOW WHAT THE JUSTICE CENTER IS, WE KNOW THE NEED ON THAT.
WE KNOW WHAT'S BEING, WHAT SOUNDS LIKE IS BEING FORCED ON THE COUNTY FOR THE J J A E P.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITIVE IS ON THAT, BUT I WAY I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LOT LARGER NUMBER THAN WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.
SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW ON HOW MUCH MONEY AND HOW MUCH BUDGET WE HAVE TO WORK WITH HERE.
I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT REALLY HARD.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT DISCUSSION NOW.
I THINK I NEED TO POINT THAT OUT.
I PROVIDED YOU ALL THE BUDGET FOR JJ LIKE THIS.
MAY I PLEASE COME UP? UM, WELL Y'ALL HAVE YOUR JOB TO DO AND I HAVE MINE.
ONE OF MY JOBS IS TO, UH, BE ON THE JUVENILE BOARD OF PARKER COUNTY.
AND SO THAT IS STATUTORY AND THE JUVENILE BOARD ADOPTED A BUDGET AND THAT BUDGET IS SUBMITTED TO THIS COURT FOR CONSIDERATION.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT BUDGET OR REJECT THAT BUDGET, BUT IT CAN BE CONSIDERED ONLY AS A TOTAL PACKAGE.
UM, THAT BUDGET ADOPTED BY THE JUVENILE BOARD INCLUDES THE J J A E P.
AND, AND VERY CANDIDLY THE ESTIMATES ON THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AS, AS COMMISSIONER HALE MENTIONED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE J J A E P ESTIMATE ALONG WITH THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER STUDY, THAT'S A COOL MILLION DOLLARS
AND, AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE PROJECTED ON THOSE THINGS.
UM, I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I MADE IT PRETTY PLAIN THAT REALLY NONE OF US ARE, OR EVEN LIKING THIS IDEA, UH, NONE OF US ARE WANTING THE COUNTY TO BE IN THE, IN THE EDUCATION BUSINESS.
AND SO THIS IS STRICTLY OUR COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE PERCEIVE AS OUR STATUTORY OBLIGATION.
AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE THING IN OUR BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN GET GOING ON IT.
AND IF WE DO ALL THAT CHEAPER, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA JUMP ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.
FRANKLY, YOU KNOW,
I THINK WE NEED TO MEET EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS TO A MINIMUM.
SAVE US AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN ON THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO.
AND I'D LOVE TO COME IN 300,000 UNDER THAT.
BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE ESTIMATE AND WE COME
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UP SHORT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM.AND OF COURSE THAT'S GONNA BE ONE PROBLEM.
IT'S GONNA BE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T TELL 'EM ONE THING AND THEN DO ANOTHER.
SO IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE
AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO SIT THAT GETS ADOPTED OR NOT.
I HAVE A DOCKET THIS MORNING, SO NOT HERE TO PUT THE ARM ON YOU.
I JUST WANNA FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED SO I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS, I MEAN IT IS, WE HAVE NEEDS HERE AND WE'RE TALKING, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ONE OF ONE OF THESE THAT I HAVE A QUESTION WHO, WHO COMPILED THESE NUMBERS? THE CHIEF OFFICER.
FROM DOING RESEARCH IN THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
WHAT SIZE FACILITY OR HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING HERE? JUST GIVEN THE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT WE SAW LAST SCHOOL YEAR? WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UH, HAVING TO, UH, SERVE APPROXIMATELY 30 YOUTH FOR THE, UH, SCHOOL YEAR.
LIKE HOW BIG OF A BUILDING OR SPACE ARE WE NEEDING FOR, FOR THIS? UM, AS FAR AS SIZE OF FACILITY? UM, YEAH.
'CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW MUCH SPACING YOU NEED BETWEEN THESE STUDENTS OR THESE PROBLEM KIDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT COSTS THIS MUCH MONEY.
WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND YOU LOOK AT SPACES IN A QUICK SEARCH IN OUR COUNTY, YOU CAN GO RENT A COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE THAT, IN MY OPINION KNOW, 5,000 SQUARE FOOT.
SO, SO THERE'S ONLY 74,000 ALLOCATED FOR RENT RENOVATIONS.
ALL THE OTHER COSTS THAT ARE ON THAT BUDGET ARE RELATING TO SALARIES.
UH, THEY'RE RELATED TO EDUCATION SUPPLIES, THE OPERATING BUDGET.
SO IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY, IT'S $74,000.
THERE'S NOT A MONTHLY LEASE PAYMENT LISTED.
SO THE, THERE'S A LOT LISTED FOR SECURITY.
SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA BE ONE-TIME EXPENSES BECAUSE IT'S THE, IT'S HOW YOU GET THE FACILITY UP AND RUNNING.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAMERA'S, VIDEO, METAL DETECTOR, HANDHELD RADIOS, WANDS, A E D, UM, THAT'S 117,000 ALONE.
JAMES, IS THAT REALISTIC TO YOU? I I DON'T HAVE YOU BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS AT ALL? NO, NO.
SHE, SHE GOT THESE NUMBERS OUTTA JOHNSON AND NOT HOOD COUNTY.
SO WHETHER OR NOT, SO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE NUMBERS CAN BE REDUCED, I WOULD HOPE SO.
AND, AND, AND I, AND OBVIOUSLY I AM, I'M GONNA FIND A WAY TO, TO CHEAP IT AND SO THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE.
UM, AND, AND AS JUDGE Q SAYS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CHOSE TO DO.
AND SO ALITO, I S D WEATHERFORD, I S D REFUSED TO SIGN MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING.
HAD THEY SIGNED THEM, WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS AS USUAL.
THEIR FOLKS IN ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PROGRAM.
SO JUDGE, I ASKED FOR A LISTING OF THEM.
THERE ARE 10 STUDENTS CURRENTLY, SIX AT WEATHERFORD, THREE AT SPRINGTOWN, AND ONE AT ALITO.
THE LIST THAT THAT I GOT FROM THE JUVENILE WAS, WAS IT 27? THAT'S, THAT'S THE LIST WE CALLED THAT I GOT, WE HAD SOMEBODY CALL EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ASK HOW MANY MANDATORY PLACEMENTS THEY HAVE.
AND THE, AND THE NUMBER AS OF LAST WEEK, LAST THURSDAY WAS 10.
I I, I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING OUR NUMBERS FROM THE, THE, THE STATE ORGANIZATION AND, AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING WE DO.
IF YOU PUT TOGETHER THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE AND HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
SO WE DON'T JUST GET TO THROW SOMETHING ON PAPER, YOU KNOW, PUT IT AT THE PRECINCT BARN WITH A COUPLE COMPUTERS AND EDUCATE A COUPLE KIDS AND HAVE, HAVE JUST SOMEBODY FROM THE OFFICE GO AHEAD AND WATCH 'EM AS A TEACHER.
THIS ALL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE AND HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND, AND WE CAN COBBLE SOMETHING TOGETHER.
BUT, BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE ME A 2000 FORD, UH, TAHOE WITH ONE WHEEL THAT'S BEEN SITTING IN YOUR YARD,
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UH, AS A PLANTER AND EXPECT ME TO OPERATE A SCHOOL.AND SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S 10 OR 30 OR 50, THIS IS IT.
IT'S GROWN FROM THE TIME WE STARTED GETTING THE FIGURES.
IT'S GROWING A HUNDRED PERCENT IN THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THAT ARE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A PICTURE RIGHT HERE IF YOUR NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE.
AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW WITH MANDATORY PLACEMENTS.
AND SO I, I MEAN I I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DEBATING THAT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WE CALL THE SUPERINTENDENT OF EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THERE ARE 10 I BELIEVE YOU TODAY.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD SOME CONCERNS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
$840,000 FOR 10 STUDENTS SURE.
WE'RE NOT IS AN EXCESSIVE NUMBER.
BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW MUCH, HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA FUND THIS AND WHAT EFFECT THIS GONNA HAVE ON YOU? WHERE'S THE MONEY GONNA COME FROM? IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE TAX RATE.
WELL, ALL, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS, WE ADOPTED THAT BUDGET.
WE DID OUR BEST, WE DID THE BEST JOB WE COULD ON ESTIMATING.
AND WE PUT IN A LOT HOURS DOING THAT.
AND AS I SAID, WE DON'T LIKE IT ANY BETTER THAN YOU DO.
AND AND I THINK WE'RE JUST AS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IT FOR LESS MONEY, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
I HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW UP, JUDGE JOHNSON.
YOU SAID, I SEE THAT THAT LINE ITEM FOR MONTHLY LEASE PAYMENT IS BLANK.
SO THAT'S NOT EVEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS EIGHT 40.
IT, IT'S, AND, AND SO AS THE WAY I, THE WAY I LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT HAVING, HAVING THE FACILITY AT THE WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT YOU ALL BOUGHT THAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT.
IT MADE SENSE FROM A STANDPOINT OF COMBINING JUVENILE PROBATION.
UH, AND WITH THE ACTUAL J J A E P, SINCE YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF DAILY SUPERVISION BY THOSE OFFICERS OF THE 10 OR 30 OR HOWEVER MANY THAT ARE THERE, PLUS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ALL THESE KIDS.
AND RATHER THAN HAVE OFFICERS RUNNING ACROSS TOWN TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THESE KIDS, IT MADE SENSE FOR THE OFFICERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY SUPERVISING THEM, WHO PROVIDE COUNSELING TO THESE KIDS.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE KIDS THAT ARE DOING BIP, YOU KNOW, BATTERERS INTERVENTION, VICTIMS IMPACT PANEL, UH, THEY DO ANGER MANAGEMENT COUNSELING, THEY DO LIFE SKILLS.
THEY'RE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS A RESULT OF THEIR PROBATION ACTUALLY THERE AT THE J J A E P RATHER THAN TRANSPORTING THE 10 OR 30 TO SOME OTHER FACILITY TO GET THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED.
SO ALL THE SERVICES ARE THERE.
SO IT MADE SENSE TO HAVE ALL THE, THE, THE ACTUAL PROBATION DEPARTMENT THERE TO, TO, TO REDUCE COSTS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE PAYING FOR ANOTHER FACILITY.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND SO IN, IN MY MIND, TO CUT COSTS, YOU COMBINE THE PLACES YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU CAN HAVE BUILDING AND GROUNDS DO SOME OF THE RENOVATIONS, WHICH WILL CUT THE COSTS ON THE BUDGET.
SOME OF THE SECURITY SYSTEMS WILL REDUCE THE COST ON THE 30.
IF WE ONLY HAVE 10, THEN WE ONLY NEED ONE TEACHER INSTEAD OF THE TWO THAT ARE THERE.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET THAT TAKES CARE OF THE EXPENSES.
WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE, YOU ALLOCATE WHAT IT'S GONNA COST AND YOU HOPE THAT YOU'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO REDUCE THE COST.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TO SPEND 5,000 FOR A FRIDGE IF YOU CAN GET IT WITH, WITH A DENT FOR 750.
MY MY UNDERSTANDING FROM Y'ALL, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE MADE THIS CLEAR, IS THAT THIS IS A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT BUDGET.
THIS ISN'T LIKE NORMAL BUDGETS THAT WE SEE FROM OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE CAN LINE ITEMS, CERTAIN PIECES AND SAY YES TO THIS AND NO TO THAT, ET CETERA.
AND AM I CORRECT IN HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT? 'CAUSE THERE'S JUVENILE BOARD THAT'S CREATED BY STATUTE, RIGHT? YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A STATUTORY LIMITATION THAT IT'S A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
THEN I I I MEAN I UNDERSTAND NONE OF US, I WOULD CALL A LIMITATION.
IT'S JUST, IT'S THE WAY THAT IT IS.
I MEAN I UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT Y'ALL GET.
WE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I AM I CORRECT IN THAT? AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
I, I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF PRO, UH, JUVENILE OFFICER MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS JUST THIS WEEK AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR AN UPDATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE KIDS, HOWEVER MANY THAT ARE LOOKING FOR A, A PLACEMENT THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY IN THEIR ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION FACILITY.
IN THOSE MEETINGS, WAS IT DISCUSSED THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROGRAM AT ALL? WHAT'S THE QUESTION? THAT MEETING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS IN DISCUSSIONS THIS WEEK, IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE ON THIS PROGRAM? SO THAT MEETING WAS THE PARKER COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING THAT INCLUDED THE SUPERINTENDENTS AND
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LAW ENFORCEMENT.SO REALLY THE INTENTION OF WHAT THEY WANTED FROM J J P WAS JUST AN UPDATE, UM, AS TO, UH, WHERE WE WERE STANDING ON MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
SO WE, UH, WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT THEIR COLLABORATION WOULD BE, UH, VERY LUCRATIVE TO US.
AND CERTAINLY WEATHERFORD AND ALITO HAVE PRESENTED THAT THEY INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, ASSIST.
UH, BUT THAT WAS NOT, THAT, THE POINT OF THAT MEETING WAS NOT SPECIFIC LINE ITEM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, WHAT WAYS THEY WOULD HELP.
I WAS JUST HOPING MAYBE WE HAD SOME UPDATE THAT SOME THAT THERE WOULD BE PARTICIPATION.
'CAUSE I'VE HEARD AT THIS POINT THERE WASN'T ANY, THEY WERE JUST WAITING NEAR WHAT WE WERE DOING.
AND COMMISSIONERS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A, A SERIOUS ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A BIG IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET, BUT IF WE CAN FOCUS ON THE MOTION AT HAND WELL, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON THE, JUST HANG ON JUST A SECOND.
Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD.
I THINK IF WE CAN FOCUS THE JUSTICE CENTER ISSUE, THE, THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ON THAT IS LAST YEAR IN LISTENING TO, UM, ATTENDING SOME OF THE BUDGET SESSIONS AND LISTENING TO THE BUDGET SESSIONS, IT SURE SEEMED A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THIS YEAR.
IT SURE SEEMED LIKE LAST YEAR WAS, WAS QUITE A BIT EASIER.
I KNOW THAT THE TAX SITUATION THIS YEAR IS VERY DIFFERENT.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY LAST YEAR TO DO A JUSTICE CENTER STUDY, WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE MONEY? LIKE, THIS IS NOT A POPULAR DECISION.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY LAST YEAR AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THIS YEAR, WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO A STUDY FOR A JUSTICE CENTER? THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION TO THE COURT.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST, AGAIN, AS, AS WHAT WAS ARTICULATED BY THE AUDITOR IS JUST WHAT, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU WANT TO GET IT FROM? AND, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THE TAXPAYERS PUT US IN THESE CHAIRS TO, UH, MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE NOT ALWAYS EASY.
UM, WE, WE WANNA BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS WE CAN, BUT IN THIS BUDGET WE HAVE GIVEN OUT, I MEAN, SUBSTANTIAL RAISES WE'VE GIVEN, UH, AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF MONEY AT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND AGAIN, I SUPPORT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
BUT THIS ISN'T, THIS IS JUST SHORT.
I MEAN, REALLY IT'S AN OBLIGATION I THINK IT TO, TO KEEP UP WITH.
AND YOU HEARD FROM THE DISTRICT JUDGE, IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S WORSE THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR AND IT'S GONNA GET WORSE AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
AND BY THE TIME WE DO THIS, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOWN THE ROAD AND IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY.
UM, JUST LIKE WHAT WE PRESENT IN THESE, THESE TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS, THE INFLATION INDEX THAT WE TALK ABOUT NOW, WHAT COST WAS BEFORE IS DRAMATICALLY MORE NOW.
AND THAT WILL BE, AGAIN, BE THAT.
BUT ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A STUDY TO GET THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR NEED ASSESSMENT'S GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO BUILD THE THING, UH, THIS YEAR OR IN FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WE, WE NEED A STARTING POINT.
I MEAN, IT JUST, YOU DON'T GO FROM NUMBER NINE TO NUMBER SIX WITHOUT SOME FORM OF OBLIGATION.
AND THE THING IS, WE HAVE A THRIVING ECONOMY, UH, THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO GET THAT.
WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLY GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND COUNCIL THAT IS GONNA WORK WITH US ON THIS AND BRING REVENUE IN AND INCREASE OUR SALES TAX.
AND JU AND, AND, AND COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I, WHAT I WAS POINTING TO WAS, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER HALE'S COMMENT ABOUT WHEN TIME THAT THEY TIE IN TOGETHER IS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, LOOKING AT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE TO FUND THIS IS WHY THAT, THAT WE, WE KIND OF WENT OFF WHAT THAT AGENDA MOTION WAS IS WHAT I WAS GONNA EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT AS COMMISSIONER HOLT HAS STATED, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE JUSTICE CENTER.
UH, IS THERE THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE ASK EVERY TIME WE'RE GONNA FUND SOMETHING.
SO I WANNA KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM FOR THIS, THIS ITEM FUND BALANCE.
SO THIS BOX AT THE BOTTOM SHOWS WHERE WE'RE AT OF USE OF FUND BALANCE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S AT THE, AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IT'S 10.2 FROM FUND BALANCE.
I WOULD FROM THAT REVENUE TO DO THAT.
SO WHERE, WHERE IT WAS SET FOR THE PROPOSED, IF YOU ADOPT THAT RATE, THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE 3.4 FROM FUND BALANCE.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE ADOPTING FROM FUND BALANCE HAS TO BE CONSIDERED IN RELATION TO WHERE YOU'RE STARTING OFF.
UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE KNOWING IN OUR EXPENSES THAT WE DON'T USE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME OF THAT, BUT YES, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AMOUNT.
I MEAN, THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THAT THIS YEAR IS WHERE YOU SET THE TAX RATE.
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WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM IS HOW WE ALLOCATE THAT AND WHERE WE GO.BUT IF WE TOOK 4 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE LAST YEAR ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, ACTUALLY OVER THE COURSE OF THAT PERIOD, UM, WAS 18 MILLION.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A HUNDRED THOUSAND HERE TO 150,000 FOR SOMETHING THAT IS CRITICAL TO THE GROWTH OF THIS COUNTY.
UH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE MOST ESSENTIAL SERVICES THE COUNTY PROVIDES AT THE, THE COUNTY THE CITY'S HEAVILY RELY ON IS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES TO, UH, ALL THE CITIES IN THIS COUNTY.
AND WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT LATELY VERY CLOSELY.
AND THEY EXPECT A SERVICE FROM US TO DO THIS.
AND, AND WE NEED TO STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING AND, AND, AND MEET THE NEED OF GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY.
I THINK ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT WOULD BE A DISREGARD OF THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE SET THESE CHAIRS.
I'LL TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER THAT, UH, TALK TO FRIES NICHOLS.
WE, WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SIX YEARS AGO.
THAT'S A SIX YEAR OLD PLAN WITH A GROWTH RATE THAT, THAT WITH COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT ARE GROWING THE WAY WE ARE.
YOU UPDATE THOSE PLANS EVERY THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT EITHER.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE ON OUR PLATE NEXT YEAR TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UPDATE THAT ON A ROADMAP OF GROWTH OF WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
AND I WAS HOPING TO TRY TO GET IT IN THIS YEAR AND IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
BUT, UH, BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S COST OF GROWTH, THERE'S A COST OF, OF DOING BUSINESS HERE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF GROWTH, YOU CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND JUST BE ODD AND FOCUS ON ONE OR TWO THINGS IN THE BUDGET.
BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS THING FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THE COUNTY.
AND WE NEED TO STEP UP AND DO THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE ITEM? JUST TO CLARIFY THIS AGAIN, ON WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW, WHERE WE ALLOCATE THAT FROM AND WHERE WE PULL, TAKE THAT OUT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA KILL THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THE GENERAL FUND IS IN THE CONDITION.
IT IS, UH, FOR THIS VERY THING TO PROVIDE THOSE NEEDS AND SERVICES.
AND, AND IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT OUR BOND RATIOS OR OUR, OUR BOND RATING, UH, FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT'S NOT GONNA, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO THAT'S, I I BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH HERE, SO I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.
IT'S TAXPAYER'S MONEY IN PARKER COUNTY, THE PARK COUNTY TAXPAYERS.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU'RE APPRAISED VALUE WENT UP A HUNDRED PERCENT LIKE SOME PEOPLE'S DID, IT'S IT'S GONNA BITE 'EM.
BRIANNA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON A WE NEED TO, SORRY, WAS THAT JUST FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER? DO WE STILL NEED TO DO J J A P SECOND ON THAT? THAT WAS JUSTICE CENTER ONLY FOR THE TECH STUDY AND DEPARTMENT WHILE WE'RE ON ITEM A, UM, ON THE, UM, J A E P, UH, WE BUDGETED 150,000 FOR THAT WITH A BUDGET THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US FROM THE JUDICIAL BOARD.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, JUDICIAL BOARD, THE JUVENILE BOARD.
UM, IS THERE ANY ACTION THAT, THAT NEEDS THERE OR DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED ON THAT? AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, BRIANNA, WE DID PUT IN CONTINGENCIES FOR THAT TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, IT NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATE.
'CAUSE IF IT'S IN A CONTINGENCY, THERE'S NOT A DECISION ON IT.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO LOCK IN.
WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO IF YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, I WOULD, I MEAN THERE NEEDS TO BE THE
SO YOU NEED TO EITHER APPROVE OR, OR DISAPPROVE OR IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT NUMBER, COME UP WITH THAT.
BUT, BUT YOU NEED TO AT LEAST TO MAKE SOME DECISION SO THAT WE CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TELL 'EM THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING FUNDING.
SO WE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST NEED MAKE PENALTIES ARE IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, UM, THEY CAN, THEY'LL SUE US.
THE STATE, THE NO, THEY'LL SUE US.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO, THE SCHOOL WILL SUE US OR THE STATE, THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL IS
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THIS IS, WELL, DOES I KNOW THAT THAT, BUT DOES IT SAY WHAT THE PENALTY IS? IT SAYS THAT IN THERE.I DON'T, I I'M, I'M, I'M RISK FOR YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT JUDGE.
I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ON THIS AGAIN, IS THAT THIS CAME A LONG LATE.
I I CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHOSE JOB IT IS TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO US AHEAD OF TIME? THAT GUY THERE.
OH, AND, AND SO THIS ACTUALLY WENT TO, UH, CHIEF KIDD IN 2021.
UH, WE ACTUALLY FIGURED OUT IT WAS A PROBLEM.
IF YOU SWITCHED THE PAGE TO PAGE THREE, WE KNEW, WE FIGURED OUT IT WAS A PROBLEM IN THE FALL OF 2022 WHEN ALITO AND WEATHERFORD WOULDN'T SIGN THE, UH, MOUS, WHICH IS THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING POPULATION AND GROWTH OF PARKER COUNTY, EXCEEDED $125,000 BY THE TWENTY TWENTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY 5,000 PERSONS AT THE 2020 CENSUS.
WE WERE AT 146,000 THAT PUT US UNDER THIS STATUTE.
AND WHEN ALITO WEATHERFORD AND THE REFUSED TO SIGN THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WHICH HAD GOT YOU OUT OF HAVING TO DO A J J A P, THAT'S WHEN WE FIGURED OUT IN THE FALL OF 2022 THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM.
AND, UM, AND AS JUDGE Q MENTIONED, WE, WE WERE IN, UM, WE WERE GETTING CONFLICTING INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD TO DO IT.
UM, AND IT TOOK US A PERIOD OF TIME TO COME TO TERMS. THAT WAS ALSO THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THAT CHIEF OF THE PROBATION OFFICER WAS TRANSITIONING TO A DIFFERENT PERSON.
SO IT'S, I KNOW IT'S HIT YOU LIKE A TON OF BRICKS.
IT'S HIT US LIKE A TON OF BRICKS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA BE OPERATING A SCHOOL.
WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT, WHEN YOU SAY ME, I'M ON THE JUVENILE BOARD WITH YOU.
AND, AND SO YOU, YOU HAD AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE DID.
AND YOU, AND YOU'RE THE PERSON WHO, WHO CAN TALK TO THESE ABOUT FUTURE NEEDS.
AND SO, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S, YOU HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE DID 'CAUSE YOU ATTEND THE MEETINGS, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE, WE CERTAINLY WOULD'VE CAME COMMISSIONER TO YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS CAME TO YOU WITH THIS INFORMATION.
WELL, WE, WE KNEW IN THE FALL OF 2022 THAT ALITO AND WEATHERFORD WEREN'T GONNA SIGN THE MOUS.
AND SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT WAS STATUTORY REQUIRED BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO GET AROUND IT, STILL GATHERING INFORMATION ON THIS.
AND, AND WE WERE GETTING SOME CONFLICTING INFORMATION.
BY THE TIME THAT ASHLEY CAME ON BOARD, ABOUT A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, WE FIGURED OUT THAT WE HAD TO DO IT.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPARENTLY PASSED.
I THINK, I BELIEVE IN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THAT A LOT OF THESE COSTS COULD BE MINIMIZED IF YOU BIND WHAT'S IN THE JUVENILE BUDGET, PROBATION BUDGET RIGHT NOW WITH THE J J A E P.
BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN MY MIND, UM, DOUBLES.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU, THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING THAT YOU PUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, EDUCATION PROGRAM AND JUVENILE PROBATION IN THE SAME FACILITY, SO THAT WAY YOU COULD HAVE THE KINDS OF EFFICIENCIES AND COST SAVINGS BY HAVING EVERYBODY IN THE SAME PLACE.
BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY'RE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THESE MANDATORY, UH, STUDENTS THAT REQUIRE PLACEMENT.
YOU'RE ASKING US TO GET IN, PUT 'EM IN THAT BUILDING.
THAT'S ANOTHER 3 MILLION THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE TO THEM.
NO, I, I AM NOT SUGGESTING YOU GIVE IT ALL TO THEM.
I'M SUGGESTING THAT THEY AT LEAST GET PART OF THE USE OF THAT BUILDING 'CAUSE AND THEN YOU TAKE THE FACILITY WHERE JUVENILE PROBATION IS PRESENTLY AND TAKE THAT PROPERTY.
I MEAN, TO ME, THAT, THAT, THAT, I MEAN, IT, I'M ALL ABOUT EFFICIENCIES.
AND TO ME, THAT SAVES MONEY AND MAKES THINGS MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT ALSO REDUCES THE SECURITY RISK BECAUSE I'M NOT HAVING TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE.
'CAUSE EVERY TIME I HAVE TO TRANSPORT SOMEBODY, THAT'S A SECURITY ISSUE.
AND I'M SAVING MONEY BY HAVING EVERYBODY IN ONE PLACE.
I'M NOT PAYING ALL THE EXTRA MILES ON A CAR.
I, I DON'T, I CAN, CAN, WELL THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ABOUT US TAKING THAT BUILDING AND GIVING THEM THAT BUILDING.
OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS DISCUSSED A LONG TIME AGO.
NO, I THOUGHT THAT WAS DISCUSSED BACK IN AUGUST.
I WASN'T AT THE AUGUST MEETING, BUT I THAT'S, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AS A JUVENILE BOARD THIS SUMMER WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU WERE PURCHASING.
THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD IT, JUDGE GEORGE, WE NEED TO HAVE A LUNCH MORE OFTEN OR THIS NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE IT JUST, IT WAS LOGICAL.
I MEAN IT'S JUST LOGICAL TO, TO US, TO ME IT'S LOGICAL BECAUSE IT'S A SECURE FACILITY.
AND, AND THE RENOVATIONS, I TALKED WITH MARK, WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT'S ALREADY SET UP TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF RENO.
YOU COULD TAKE THE FACILITY THAT'S THERE, THAT'S GROSSLY INEFFICIENT, COMBINED IT AND AND INCREASE YOUR COST SAVINGS.
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I'M IT'S A LOT.WE ALL HAVE LOTS OF NEEDS AND I DON'T WANT, IT'S A LOT.
YOU'RE NOT, BUT I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS LOOKING DOWN THE BUDGET THERE, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ITEMS, WE HAVE A, A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR AT $75,000, A UH, CASE MANAGER, COUNSELOR AT $80,000, OFFICE ASSISTANT AT $40,000, TWO TEACHERS AT $130,000.
AND THEN PARAPROFESSIONALS ON DOWN $528,000 IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
IF FOR, FOR WHAT I CONSIDER A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF 10, UH, UP TO 30, I AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T PUT TOGETHER THE BUDGET.
YOU, I'M NOT HAVING, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DEFEND.
I'M JUST POINTING OUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AS A YES OR NO.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME, AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN THE EDUCATION BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS AND RAN A MULTI-DISTRICT, D A E P RATHER EXCESSIVE, IT, IT, IT CAME OUT DOUBLE WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.
I'LL, I'LL, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND HAVE SOME REALISTIC NUMBERS.
I, IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LOT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU ONLY HAD 10, YOU'D ONLY NEED MAYBE ONE TEACHER INSTEAD OF TWO.
I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COUNSELOR THERE, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE FOR JUVENILE PROBATION.
SO, AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE DISCOUNTING THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE THE NUMBERS.
I JUST WANT REALISTIC NUMBERS.
THAT'S ALL I'VE ASKED FOR ALL THE TIME.
I, I, I, I ASK FOR REALISTIC STUDENT NUMBERS, WHICH I HAD, WE HAD TO GET OURSELVES, THAT WAS 10.
AND NOW I WANT REALISTIC NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
THE, THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND CAME OUTTA JOHNSON AND HOOD COUNTY AND, UM, AND UNDERSTAND IT'S A BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST PROJECTIONS WOULD BE.
THESE ARE ANNUAL, UH, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I THINK THE COUNTY'S FISCAL IS SIMILAR TO WHAT A SCHOOL'S FISCAL WOULD BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A REALISTIC NUMBER.
I'M EVEN LOOKING AT HARD COSTS FOR DESKS AND CHAIRS AND CABINETS.
I'M LOOKING AT, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE STARTUPS, RIGHT? SO YOU LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL, UH, TOTAL OPERATIONAL AND SUPPLIES.
A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE COSTS THAT I'M LOOKING AT ARE, ARE COSTS THAT YOU INCUR JUST IN GETTING SOMETHING SET UP.
YOU GOTTA TELL A NUMBER TODAY.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A MEETING WITH THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED, WHICH WOULD BE THE SUPERINTENDENTS, AND SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO ADD TO THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
BECAUSE I'M SUSPECTING THAT THEY PROBABLY MAY VERY WELL HAVE A FACILITY.
THEY MAY HAVE A PORTABLE BUILDING THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE MAIN CAMPUS THAT ONE OF THESE DISTRICTS, THEY MAY VERY WELL HAVE, UH, TEACHERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT COULD STAFF PART-TIME BASIS.
MAYBE THEY MOST LIKELY ARE GONNA HAVE DESKS.
THAT THEY WOULD HAVE EXTRA DESKS.
ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THOSE ITEMS. THEY MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED, EXTRA COMPUTERS.
IF, IF EACH ONE OF THEM GAVE ONE, UH, MAYBE NOT THE BRAND NEW ONES, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL, EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED THERE TO, I, I DON'T, IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO MY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I, AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP.
I, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STARTING PLACE.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT I WAS GIVEN THIS MORNING.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, I'M NOT THROWING ROCKS AT YOU BY ANY MEANS KNOW.
BUT I'M TRYING TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE.
AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS ISN'T REALISTIC.
SO I, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT FOR ALL OF US, YOU'RE SITTING AT THE 11TH HOUR AND, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE WANTING TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A J J A E P, AND YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME ALLOCATION OF FUNDS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN SERVICE HOWEVER MANY KIDS ARE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS IN THE PROGRAM.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO THAT PLACE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET.
AND I KNOW THAT I FEEL AS I, AS I MORALLY AND ETHICALLY AND STATUTORILY RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST SEEING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A PROGRAM TO TAKE CARE OF THESE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PROCEED AT THIS 11TH HOUR, GIVEN WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE'VE, WE'VE COMMITTED FOR SOME MONEY NOW.
THEY NEED TO COMMIT FOR, I THINK WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A MEETING ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO ASK THEM WHAT'S YOUR WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE AND WHAT WE COULD DO.
BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENED EITHER.
SO THE ONLY WAY I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO
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IT IS ALLOCATE SOME MONEY THAT WE CAN ADD TO.BUT, BUT I'M BEING TOLD WE EITHER HAVE TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE $840,000 BUDGET.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T SET ASIDE MONEY IN CONTINGENCY THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THE WAY WE DO, UH, JUVENILE COUNTY FUNDED IS WE BUDGET A TRANSFER, AND SO WE ONLY TRANSFER WHAT ARE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.
SO IF THEY SET A BUDGET OF THIS AMOUNT, WE HAVE THE TRANSFER.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE DO A JOURNAL ENTRY BASICALLY TO PROVIDE THAT REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY FUNDED OF JUVENILE PROBATION.
AND SO WE COULD SET IT UP THE SAME WAY AGAIN, AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HER.
AND MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT IF THERE'S NOT DESKS AVAILABLE OR ALL THESE OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE, WE WERE HAVING TO PURCHASE THINGS HERE.
HERE'S THE BUDGET, RIGHT? SO IT'S SETTING THE CEILING.
AND I THINK FROM WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS THEY'RE HOPING THAT IT ISN'T LIKE THIS, BUT FROM THE RESEARCH, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO OPERATE.
AND MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT AGAIN, YOU COULD SET THE TRANSFER AT THIS AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO THEN WORK, AND HOPEFULLY THOSE AREN'T ACTUALLY THE, THE ACTUALS, BUT THAT YOU APPROPRIATE IT.
I WANT TO CLAR, I WANT TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT MEETING WITH THE ISDS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.
UH, I TRIED TO SET UP, DO MY OFFICE A MEETING WITH THE ISDS AND WAS CLEARLY TOLD BY, UM, JUDGE QUISENBERRY, WHO WAS ON THAT BOARD WITH ME, THAT THAT IS THEIR JOB TO MEET WITH THEM, TO, UH, AND HE WANTED TO TAKE THE LEAD WITH THAT TO, TO GET WITH THEM.
AND THAT'S THEIR ROLE RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME, TO DETERMINE NOW WHETHER HE MET WITH THEM OR NOT.
UH, DETERMINE AND, AND TRY TO FACILITATE WHAT THAT, AND COMPLETE WHAT THAT BUDGET IS.
BUT I WAS TOLD CLEARLY THAT THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE, THE, UH, JUVENILE BOARD, UH, NOT THE COURT.
UH, WHILE I, I, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF IT, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS CLEARLY AT THAT POINT IN TIME WAS TOLD THAT THROUGH THEM.
NOW, I MEAN, WHY I'M THE MESSENGER ON THIS.
WHY WOULDN'T, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TELLING YOU.
SO, SO CAN I I, I'M, I'M, I'M ALL ABOUT TRYING TO FACILITATE A RE RESOLUTION.
YOU'VE GOT OTHER THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY, THIS MORNING.
CAN, UM, I, I DO THINK YOU NEED TO APPROVE OF THE, OF A J J A E P.
I THINK YOU NEED TO SET ASIDE A CONTINGENCY AMOUNT.
AND I WOULD INVITE YOU, COMMISSIONER WALDEN TO HELP THE JUVENILE BOARD WITH THE SETUP, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE LOT, I KNOW YOU HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE HAVING DEALT IN EDUCATION FOR YEARS AND BEFORE YOU BECAME A WEALTHY BUSINESSMAN
SO, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
AND I THINK YOU'VE HAD CONTACTS AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS, AND I DO THINK WE WOULD GET HELP FROM THEM TO REDUCE THE OVERALL COST.
OUR OBJECTIVE, MY OBJECTIVE IS NEVER TO SPEND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S IN A BUDGET OR THAT WHAT A PROJECTED COST IS.
BUT TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HANDLE.
AND MY CONCERN, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE IF THERE WAS SOMEONE TO HELP, UH, NAVIGATE THAT, I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, UH, THE JUVENILE BOARD MEETS, MEETS MONTHLY.
UM, BUT WE DON'T, BUT WE APPROVE RESOLUTIONS AND CONTRACTS AND DON'T GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THE OPERATION.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT ANYTHING OTHER THAN REALISTIC HERE.
AND, AND IF, IF WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE OF $840,000 HERE WITH BASICALLY NO CONTROL OVER IT, HERE'S THE MONEY.
AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO WORK.
IT NEEDS, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN OF WHAT ITS ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE.
WE, WE HAVE TO FUND THE PROGRAM.
UH, DO WE FUND THE CADILLAC PROGRAM OR DO WE FUND THE CHEVROLET? I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THE 150 YOU ALLOCATED THE PROGRAMS AS A CHEVROLET.
I THINK IT'S THE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS 850.
WELL, I, I, I DON'T TAKE, I, IT IS, I DON'T, I DON'T, I I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE SAID.
AND, AND I DON'T WANT A CADILLAC OR A CHEVY.
I DRIVE, I I DRIVE A USED CAR THAT, THAT MY, MY HUSBAND GOT AFTER IT FLOODED IN HOUSTON.
SO, UM, WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO IS MOVE FORWARD ON A J J A E P TO SHOW THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN OUR COUNTY THAT WANT MANDATORY PLACEMENT.
BUT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IS WE EITHER APPROVED THIS OR WE REJECT IT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID WHEN THEY CAME UP HERE.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD TOO.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND I, I'VE, I, UH, AND I KNOW YOU ALLOCATE, I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF YOU.
BUT, BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL IN THE REAL WORLD RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, I THINK THE REAL WORLD WOULD HAVE THIS NUMBER
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BE A WHOLE LOT LESS THAN THAT.'CAUSE AS I POINTED OUT BEFORE, WE CAN SEND 'EM TO T C U CHEAPER THAN THIS.
UH, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S AWFULLY GENEROUS.
IT'S, IT'S THE FACT
I DON'T KNOW WHAT T C U RUNS ABOUT.
IS IT, IS THAT WITH ROOM AND BOARD? THIS IS 840,000 PER STUDENT RIGHT HERE.
AND THAT'S WITH THE 10, I MEAN 884,000 PER STUDENT RIGHT HERE.
WELL, THE CURRENT, CURRENT NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE HAVE.
SO TO THAT END, UH, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
SO THEY'RE MEETING THE JUVENILE BOARD'S MEETING AT NOON TODAY.
SO AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EITHER TELL THEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A J J A E P PROGRAM OR NOT.
SO THEY CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
BECAUSE WE'RE PAST THE, HUH? WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT.
WELL, IT'S WHAT I WAS, HE JUST DISMISSED ME, SO I FIGURED SOMETHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
YEAH, WE'LL EVEN TALK ALL DAY IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TIME, GO AHEAD.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE HIM ON.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP ANY ANYMORE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
AND ALL I CAN DO IS GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND SEE IF WE'VE TODAY, TODAY, WELL, ANY OF THE MONEY THAT YOU DON'T SPEND COMES BACK TO US.
SO I LIKE, AND IF ONE OF YOU WANTS TO BE THE INVOLVED TO HELP REDUCE THOSE COSTS, I THINK THE JUVENILE WORK WOULD, WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY APPOINTED SOMEONE.
I, I WAS GONNA DEFER TO JUDGE.
I MEAN, UH, MR. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, WE GOT A CHIEF, WE'VE GOT A CHIEF PERSON.
BUT IF WE WANT SOMEBODY THERE TO INTERFACE AND HELP US REDUCE THE COSTS, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELCOME.
WELL, SO I, AND I, I MEAN THAT SINCERELY, BECAUSE WE DON'T, AS JUDGES HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO WE JUST HANDLE RESOLUTIONS AND CONTRACTS AND DEAL WITH POLICY ISSUES.
SO WE DON'T DEAL WITH ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATIONS.
SO, WELL, I KNOW YOU, YOU, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION OTHER THAN JUST GOING TO SCHOOL.
BUT, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE JUVENILE BOARD, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE, I WOULD OFFER UP TO BE THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE JUVENILE BOARD AND, AND WORKING WITH THEM ON, UM, TRYING TO GET THOSE COSTS DOWN AND WORKING THROUGH THEM ON RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED.
THAT, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY OFFER THAT UP TO, UH, TAKE THAT ROLE FROM THE JUVENILE BOARD IN FACILITATING AND WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THAT NUMBER DOWN.
SO AS I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROPRIATE THE, UH, 839,737 AND 83 CENTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, I JUST, JUST A SECOND.
I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THAT MOTION, BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW IT UP WITH ANOTHER MOTION OKAY.
IN A MINUTE AFTER, AFTER THIS ONE'S IS CARE OF.
ANY OTHERS? WHAT, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? WELL, I, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR HERE.
WE WERE TOLD STATUTORILY WE MUST ACCEPT THIS BUDGET AND TO, TO USE THE PHRASE THAT'S REALLY HOT IN THE MEDIA THESE DAYS, THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE BY THE STATE ON THE COUNTY.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN TURN IT DOWN.
WE'RE NOT STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO DO IT.
NO, WE ARE, YOU'RE LY REQUIRED TO HAVE A JJ EIGHT.
BUT THIS, THIS BODY CAN SAY NO TO THAT BUDGET.
IS THAT, AND THEN, AND THEN THE COUNTIES WAS FACING LAWSUITS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEN YOU WOULD BE SUED YEAH.
SO BACK TO MY POINT, AN UNFUNDED MANDATE BY THE STATE ON US, ON THE, ON US AS THE TAXPAYERS.
NOT JUST MY SEAT AS A COMMISSIONER ON THIS COURT, BUT ME AS A TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTY.
AND THAT DOESN'T TASTE WELL ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
SO IF WE ARE STATUTORILY REQUIRED, THIS ISN'T, DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
LIKE WE'VE DONE THIS WHOLE BUDGET WHERE WE SAY, GUYS, WE ARE VERY, VERY RESTRAINED ON OUR TAX REVENUE.
WE DO NOT WANT TO RAISE TAXES.
I MEAN, WHEN WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, TO AVOID THAT, BUT WHEN WE'RE TOLD WE HAVE TO DO IT, THAT PUTS US IN A REALLY BAD SITUATION AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SEND THEM BACK AND SAY, HEY, GO WORK ON THESE NUMBERS LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD IN THE COUNTY DID THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S SITTING REALLY UNEASY WITH THE SITUATION THAT'S SITTING HERE BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.
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THAT'S THE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE.I THINK THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT WHOEVER, UH, IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT, UM, TO THAT BOARD OR TO THAT COMMITTEE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME LEFTOVER CHAIRS, SOME LEFTOVER COMPUTERS, MAYBE A PORTABLE BUILDING THAT THEIR LEASE IS RUNNING OUT, THAT WE CAN TAKE IT OVER.
I'D LIKE TO DO THIS TO THE LEGALLY REQUIRED STANDARDS, BUT MAN, IF WE CAN FIND, UH, WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA SURPLUS AND BE AS EFFICIENT WITH OUR DOLLARS AS POSSIBLE, UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT BOARD TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE I'S, ARE DOTTED AND T'S ARE CROSSED.
I KNOW MR. KAYWOOD BACK THERE IS PRETTY HANDY AT PUTTING UP CAMERAS.
I IMAGINE HE CAN DO IT A LOT CHEAPER THAN $30,000.
NOT TO, NOT TO VOLUNTARILY YOU, UH, JAMES, BUT, UM, I, I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US REALLY PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE COUNTY TO GET THIS DONE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? IF THIS PASSES, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT EXPENDITURES IS OVER 150,000 WOULD COME BACK BEFORE COURT.
WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE THE MONEY FOR IT.
AND THEN IF THERE'S MONEY OVER WHAT WE SAID WAS 150,000, THAT THEY'D NEED TO COME BACK AND, AND HAVE, TALK TO US AT COURT ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS.
COMMISSIONER, IF I CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION, DO YOU MEAN A SINGLE LINE ITEM OR DO YOU MEAN ONCE EXPENDITURES HIT 150 AND GO ABOVE? I WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO COURT WHEN IT EXCEEDS $150,000, THAT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INFORMED OF IT SPECIFICALLY, AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAW MORE MONEY OUT TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT.
SO I MADE A MOTION THE OTHER DAY TO SPEND 150,000, WHICH I THINK IS A REALISTIC NUMBER FOR, FOR BEGINNING THIS PROGRAM.
THERE ARE THINGS LISTED ON HERE THAT WILL COME FROM DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PLACES, UM, THAT ARE NOT ON THIS LIST.
BUT I THINK WHEN EXPENDITURES EXCEED $150,000, THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND, AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AND BE A, A PART OF IT.
SO I'M GONNA MOVE THAT EXPENDITURE IS OVER $150,000, UH, FOR THIS BUDGET TO BE REPORTED TO COURT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YOUR HONOR, BRIANNA, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S ASKING.
DO YOU, I'M ASKING FOR COMMUNICATION BACK ABOUT HOW THIS MONEY'S BEING SPENT AND WE'VE NOT GOTTEN THAT PREVIOUSLY.
SO ARE YOU WANTING IT A COURT AHEAD OF TIME? 'CAUSE I PRESENT PAYABLES EVERY COURT THAT INCLUDES EVERY, EVERYTHING.
WHEN HUNDRED $50,000 OR, OR THAT'S AS IT COMES ALONG.
I I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO REPORT TO COURT.
RIGHT? I, AND I CAN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HERE OR WHAT? WHO IT'S GOING TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A MOTION AND IT COULD BE APPROVED.
UM, WELL, I THINK YOU NEED
THAT'S, THAT'S DIFF THAT'S FOR A DIFFERENT TIME.
YOU'VE GOT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'LL MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM LATER ON.
DO YOU WANT IT REPORTED OR? I WANT IT REPORTED TO COURT.
I WANT, I WANT A SEPARATE, SEPARATE SHEET, SOME SEPARATE EMAIL PAGE THAT SAYS THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING.
A AND WHAT I WAS GONNA DO, AND I'M, I'LL, UH, SPEAK TO THE JUVENILE DIRECTOR AFTER THIS.
AND SO I WAS JUST GONNA PUT IT INTO THE J J A E P FUND THAT I'VE CREATED.
UM, AND THEN ON THE FIRST COURT, ALLOCATE IT.
'CAUSE I NEED TO CREATE GL ACCOUNTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THIS.
AND I WANNA WORK WITH HER AND WE'RE RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AND SO IF SHE DOESN'T NEED TO DO A PO DAY ONE, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR THAT.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS REPORT.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT'S, KNOW WHEN THIS MONEY'S BEING SPENT AND WHAT IT'S BEING SPENT FOR.
SO IT'S NOT WASTED ON STUPID STUFF.
WELL, IT'S GONNA BE, I MEAN AT THAT POINT IT'S EXPENDITURES ARE, WE CAN COMMUNICATE IT THAT WHEN IT'S IN THAT COURT.
'CAUSE I PRESENT ALL PAYABLES TO YOU TO APPROVE EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THESE EXPENSES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT A SUMMARY OF THOSE EXPENDITURES.
BUT I WORK WITH THE JUVENILE DIRECTOR WHEN IT EXCEEDS $150,000, I WANNA REPORT BACK TO COURT ABOUT WHERE THAT MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
IN YOUR SPARE TIME, BRIANNA? NO, I DIDN'T ASK.
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TO DO IT.DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON B BEFORE? I'M SORRY.
[I.B. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests Updates. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
CAP BUDGET REQUESTS.ROB'S, WHY YOU LOOKED AT ME FUNNY.
SO, UH, JUST REAL QUICK, WHAT I GAVE TO YOU ALL, UM, WAS PRINTED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE THIS MORNING.
WHICH ONE ARE WE GONNA START WITH? WHICH PAGE? WELL, ON THE, ON THIS, THE SMALL SUMMARY PAGE HAS NUMBERS THAT WERE EFFECTIVE YESTERDAY.
AND SO AFTER WE DO THE APPROVALS AND STUFF WE'LL, WE'LL, OR WHAT I TELL YOU AND ASK YOU TO APPROVE IF YOU APPROVE, WE'LL GO BACK AND UPDATE THAT.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU ALL NEED TO VOTE ON TODAY IS TRANSPORT HAD ITEMS TWO VEHICLES IN THE ROAD, THE ROLLOVER FUNDS THAT WE ARE USING FOR PATROL LIEUTENANT.
AND UM, IT'S TWO PICKUPS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM RELIABLE CHEVROLET.
THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK ALREADY AND SO WE'VE PURCHASED THEM.
WE HAVE THEM TO OUTFIT THOSE IS DIFFERENT FOR PATROL THAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN FOR TRANSPORT.
TRANSPORT HAD $19,700 IN THE BUDGET TO OUTFIT.
BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED AN ADDITIONAL $10,100 TO, TO OUTFIT THOSE TWO TRUCKS.
SO THAT WOULD BE FUNDS, ADDITIONAL FUNDS ADDED TO THE ROLLOVER AMOUNT OF 19 SEVEN.
SO AN ADDITIONAL $10,100 FOR PATROL'S BUDGET.
I'M JUST GONNA ASK, UM, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT KIM IS TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING OR IN MY FIGURES IN THE TOTAL.
SO IT'S NOT IN ADDITION TO WHAT I'VE PROVIDED YOU.
WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALL WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLLY.
OH THERE IS ALSO ON UNDER THE IT RELATED EXPENSES.
COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, DESKTOPS AND LAPTOPS THAT THEY HAD, UM, SUBMITTED THE LAPTOP.
AND ONE OTHER ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE ROLLOVER FOR, UM, THE DRIVE THROUGH AT THE ANNEX FOR AUTO REGISTRATION.
UH, WE WERE HOPING TO GET THAT COMPLETED NEXT WEEK.
IT APPEARS THAT IT'S NOT GONNA FINISH.
AND SO WE NEED TO ROLL OVER $30,000 OF THAT.
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR OVER TO 2024.
ALL IN FAVOR? ARE THEY RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS GETTING THAT READY OR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE VENDOR.
JUST UH, IS IT THE VENDOR IDEA? IT'S THE VENDOR.
I THINK THEY RESCHEDULE FROM ORIGINALLY.
SO THEN THEY COULDN'T LEAVE THAT TIMEFRAME.
I JUST FOUND OUT, OUT THIS MORNING IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT THE FUNDS ARE, ARE IN HER LINE ALREADY CURRENTLY, SO IT'S NOT ADDITIONAL FUNDS, IT'S JUST ROLLING THEM OVER.
WHEN IS THAT? LINDA PROJECTED TO BE OPERATIONAL.
WE GOT BUILDINGS, GROUND, HAS EVERYTHING DONE AS FAR AS ELECTRICAL NATURE, HOW THEY WANTED THINGS DONE, PHOTOGRAPHS BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN SCHEDULED SOMETHING'S.
MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I'M COMPLETELY OUTTA
WELL SHE, UM, JENNY GENTRY WAS NOTIFIED YESTERDAY BY THE VENDOR AND SO THE VENDOR HAD SAID THAT THEY'LL HAVE A NEW DATE SHORTLY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER.
WHAT PAGE YOU ON NOW? SO THAT, THAT IF YOU VOTE ON THAT TO APPROVE THAT ROLLOVER AND THEN YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED
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ON THE 10,100 FOR, UM, THE PATROL VEHICLE OUTFITTING YOU, YOU VOTED ON THE ONE 50.OKAY, SO YOU VOTED ON THE ROLLOVER? YES.
[I.C. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions Updates. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]
ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST AND OR NEW POSITIONS.BECKY, THE ONLY THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO NOTIFY THE COURT ON, SO WITH SENATE BILL 22, WITH THE AMOUNTS OF THOSE GRANTS, THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE GRANT THAN WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
SO BRIANNA HAS SET UP SPECIAL FUNDS FOR THAT MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE NEW POSITIONS HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT THEY COULD SPEND OUT OF THAT.
SO SUBSTANTIALLY MORE IN THE DA'S BUDGET THAN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET.
BUT, UM, I JUST KIND OF WANNA NOTIFY THE COURT THAT POSSIBLY IN OCTOBER THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MAY COME FORWARD TO FOR SOME OTHER USES OF THAT SENATE BILL 22 MONEY.
AND THAT'S JUST SO HE CAN UTILIZE THE FULL GRANT.
I KNOW WE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SALARY ATTORNEY AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY CAN ONLY USE THAT MONEY FOR SALARY.
YEAH, HE'S NOT COMING ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
NO, JUST WHERE ELSE HE COULD USE THAT MONEY.
AND SO WE HAVE TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WILL HIM COMING TO PRESENT THAT TO COURT FOR THE REST OF THE CONTINGENCY MONEY.
CAN WE SAVE MONEY? CAN WE SAVE MONEY ON ALLOCATED? NO, NO, THANK YOU.
SO YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES IS WHAT THAT REQUEST IS GONNA BE? YES.
THE, THE TOTAL GRANT FUNDS ARE 2 75 FOR EACH OF THEM.
AND SO AS BECKY STATED, IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THAT USE.
AND SO BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T EQUAL THE 2 75, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IS.
AND SO FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, THE WAY IT'LL BE, WE'LL GET THE TOTAL AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S NOT EXPENDED, WE'LL GET SENT BACK TO THE STATE HONOR.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM? GOOD ITEM D AND DISCUSS AND APPROVED SPECIAL REVENUE PLANS.
DO YOU MR. HOLT, DO YOU HAVE, UM, FOR YOUR PRECINCT UNDER THE SALARY REQUEST? YEAH, WE HAD SOME REVISIONS TO OUR SALARY REQUEST.
IT WON'T AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND AT ALL.
IT'S SIMPLY A KIND OF RECLASSIFICATION, NOT EVEN THAT FOR SOME OF MY EMPLOYEES.
UM, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT GENERAL FUND, IT AFFECTS MY FUNDS ONLY.
DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? YES.
AND THEN, UM, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE, I, I THINK YOU HAD WORKED WITH BECKY FOR A SHEET BECAUSE THEN WHAT WE'LL NEED IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE AUDITING THE RAISES, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW THAT THESE POSITIONS WERE APPROPRIATE AT CERTAIN, UM, SALARY AMOUNTS.
YEAH, LET ME GIVE YOU THAT AMOUNT REAL QUICK.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE A REVISED AMOUNT FOR THE OPERATOR.
ONE LINE ITEM FOR PRECINCT TWO.
THE REVISED LINE ITEM IS GOING TO BE, HANG ON, BECKY, THE AMOUNT ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE TOTAL FOR LINE 1 0 8? SO WITH THE 3% THAT WAS GONNA MAKE HIS LINE LIGHT ON HIM FOR 1 0 8, UM, 1,024,127 WITH THE, WITH THE 3% PLUS THE ADDITIONAL INCREASES THAT HE WANTS TO UTILIZE HIS FUNDS FOR, IT WOULD TAKE IT TO ONE 1,212,000, WHICH IS A TOTAL 22% INCREASE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE 3% AS WELL.
AND THIS IS INCLUSIVE OF THE NEW POSITIONS THAT I'M LOOKING TO HIRE.
YEAH, IT INCLUDES THAT AS WELL COMPARED TO THE OTHER PRECINCTS.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS AND A LOT OF MILES TO COVER.
SO I'M MAKING THE MOTION THAT WE REVISE THE OPERATOR ONE LINE ITEM TO BE 1,212,000 EVEN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM D? GOOD ITEM E DISCUSSED.
HANG ON, I'M, HANG ON ONE SECOND,
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BRIANNA.THE, THERE WAS THAT CONFUSION ON THE ROLLOVER TRUCKS, THE TWO TRUCKS.
ARE WE GOOD ON THAT? YES, THANK YOU.
AND I WAS THE LAST ONE, SORRY, WAS INPUTTING WERE THE PRECINCTS.
AND SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT TO DO THIS MORNING ON THAT AND THEN I'LL SEND EACH OF YOU, I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR BUDGETS AND WE HAVE FINALIZED THOSE THROUGH EMAIL.
BUT I'LL SEND A CLEAN REPORT ONCE I GET THE REST OF THAT ENTERED.
AND SO ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE TOTALS ON THESE SHEETS, I MEAN, DOESN'T PRECINCT, BUT THOSE TOTAL
[I.D. Discuss/Approve Special Revenue Funds. (Judge Deen)]
ITEM D ON THE DISCUSSION.APPROVED SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
AGAIN, IT WAS JUST SO WE CAN DISCUSS SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER ITEMS. BUT UM, I MEAN IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, SOME OF IT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE APPROVING IT OR TO BRING IT UP IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF, UM, TRANSPORTATION BOND OR ARPA OR ANY OF THOSE, ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'VE LEFT OFF IN SPECIAL REVENUE? NO, THIS, I MEAN, THESE PAGES INCLUDE, INCLUDE EVERYTHING, ALL OF OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
SO WHEN, I MEAN WHEN YOU ADOPT THE BUDGET, YOU'RE OVERALL, YOU'RE ADOPTING ALL OF ALL OF THESE.
AND SO I HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHICH LILA HAD CAME TO YOU LIKE WITH HER PLAN ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
I MEAN, DISTRICT CLERK HAD MENTIONED, UM, I THINK AT THE LAST TIME WE MET, LIKE THE COURT FACILITY FUND THAT WE MOVED, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, SOME OF THE REMODELING IN THE FOUR 15TH COURT, WE MOVED IT TO THOSE, UM, SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
UM, YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT MY SUMMARY OF CHANGES, UM, I THINK IT WAS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT LIKE INTERPRETER, THERE'S A, UH, LANGUAGE ACCESS FUND THAT CAN PAY FOR COURT INTERPRETERS.
AND SO I'VE SET UP, UM, BUDGETS FOR EACH OF THE COURTS.
SO IT'S A, THE MONEY THAT COMES FROM THAT IS FROM CIVIL, UM, CIVIL COURT FEES.
AND SO EACH OF THE JPS C C L AND DISTRICT COURTS ALL COLLECT THAT FEE.
AND SO I'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND HAVE LET 'EM KNOW THAT I'VE, UM, BUDGETED FUNDS IN THERE.
AND SO, UM, THE HOPE IS THAT THAT FUND WILL COVER ALL OUR COURT INTERPRETER FEES BEFORE THEY WOULD THEN GO INTO THEIR FUND 10 BUDGET.
AND SO SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE SPECIAL FUNDS THAT FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSE RATHER THAN HAVING TO USE GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, WE HAVE LIKE A COURT REPORTER SERVICE FUND WHERE, UM, IF THAT PARTICULAR COURT, WHICH IT'S THE CCLS, UM, AND THE DISTRICT COURTS COLLECT A FEE, UM, THAT CAN BE USED FOR A COURT, UH, REPORTER SERVICES.
SO THE, THE TRANSCRIPTS, VISITING COURT REPORTERS, UM, AND ANY OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, NECESSITIES THAT THEY NEED, UM, SOFTWARE UPDATES ON THEIR, UM, MACHINES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
I'D LIKE TO BRING UP AN ISSUE, UM, SEE WHAT THE COURT'S TEMPERATURE IS ON IT.
WE ADJUSTED THE PAY SCALE FOR THE, SO WHICH I WAS VERY CONVINCED BY MR. ARNETT'S PRESENTATION SHERIFF AL'S PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE NEED FOR THAT TO KEEP OUR COUNTY SAFE, KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE.
UM, WE HAVE DONE A 3% COLA ADJUSTMENT FOR NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS A 5% ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF WHERE INFLATION ACTUALLY IS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE ACTUALLY THINKS INFLATION IS ACTUALLY AT 3% IN TERMS OF FOOD, GAS PRICES, ET CETERA.
SO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THE PAY SCALE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE, SO, 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HANDLED THAT AND THE 3% FOR THE, SO, UM, I GUESS BECKY I THINK IS ABOUT TO STEP BACK IN.
YOU'RE WANT 5% FOR THE SOS FOR NO SIR.
SO SINCE WE HANDLED THAT SEPARATELY AND WE DID A PAY SCALE FOR THEM SEPARATELY, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
UH, SORRY, WE WERE WAITING ON YOU.
UH, BECKY, DO YOU HAVE EVEN A GUESS OF WHAT THE NUMBER WOULD BE? NOT COUNTING.
SO IF WE WERE TO GO TO 5% FOR COLA FOR NON-ELECTED NON SO EMPLOYEES, AND I APOLOGIZE,
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I I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A HEADS UP.I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AND I DID NOT, THAT'S ON ME.
UM, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU PERFECTLY THERE A WHILE AGO, BUT YOU SAID NON.
YEAH, SO I'M SAYING FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT ELECTED YEAH, I GOT IT.
AND WHO ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THE, SO YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE AT 3% FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.
BUT I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ACTUALLY THINKS INFLATION'S ONLY 3%.
YEAH, I GOT, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.
I MEAN WITH IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE 600,000.
SO TO BACK OUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I'M GONNA SAY PROBABLY BETWEEN THREE TO FOUR.
BUT I DIDN'T EVEN, YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GONNA ASK ME THAT.
AND THAT'S JUST GENERAL FUND FOR PRECINCTS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WELL EVERYBODY WANTS MORE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT.
BUT I MEAN, JUST MY OPINION, BUT I WAS WANTING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT BEFORE I MADE A MOTION.
CURIOUS WHAT THAT FEEDBACK MIGHT BE.
YOU'RE ACCURATE ON THE, UH, INFLATION INDEX, THERE'S SEVERAL, IT'S KIND OF A MOVING, TRYING TO GET AN A FIRM NUMBER ON WHAT THAT IS HAS KIND OF BEEN DIFFICULT, MORE DIFFICULT THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
BUT, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY MORE THAN THREE.
UH, IT WOULD APPEAR IT'S CLOSER TO THE FOUR TO FIVE, I'VE EVEN SEEN IT HIGHER.
BUT, UM, FOR FUND 10 EMPLOYEES, I'M SHOWING THAT THAT ADDITIONAL INCREASE WOULD BE $287,000.
IN OTHER WORDS, TO GO FOR FIVE 10.
SO NOT COUNTING PRECINCT EMPLOYEES AND NOT COUNTING.
SO THAT INCREASE WOULD BE $286,666 AND 67 CENTS TO GO FROM
3% TO 5% FOR NON-ELECTED, NON-ELECTED NONS SHERIFF NONS SHERIFF NON PRECINCT.
SO OUR PRECINCT BOYS WILL NOT GET 5% THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WON'T.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THE NUMBER I JUST GAVE YOU DOESN'T INCLUDE THEM, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN FIGURE THAT NUMBER OUT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO, IS THAT WHAT THE, UH, MOTION WE PASSED PREVIOUSLY FOR YOUR PRECINCT DID FOR YOURS? WE CAN SEPARATE MY PRECINCT OUT FROM THAT.
MY PRECINCT WAS, I LOOKED AT, I DID A SALARY COMPARISON OF THE PRECINCTS AND I LOOKED AT WHAT MY GUYS WERE AT AND I FELT LIKE SOME CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE COMPARED TO OTHER PRECINCTS.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO NON-ELECTIVE.
THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL OR THE BUDGET AMOUNTS, THE BUDGET.
IT NEEDS TO BE ALL NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I'M, I'M NOT MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT WE SHOULD EXCLUDE PRECINCT.
I JUST HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SHEETS HERE.
SO THE NUMBER THAT I GAVE YOU DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PRECINCT NUMBERS.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THOSE OUT RIGHT NOW.
POINT OUT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE CONTINGENCY YET EITHER.
WE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T ALLOCATED AN AMOUNT TO CONTINGENCY.
YEAH, I MEAN IT
YOU'VE LISTENED TO OUR NEEDS, UM, YOU'VE LISTENED TO OUR, UM, THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET ACCOMPLISHED AND, AND YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY STEPPED UP FOR US AND HELPED US OUT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY GOING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, INCREASES FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
SO I KNOW WE'RE A LARGE PART OF THE, UH, THE, UH, INCREASE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, COMMISSIONER TO YOUR, YOUR COMMENT.
SO THE PAY SCALE THAT YOU APPROVED WITH IN ADDITION TO 3% WAS FOR SWORN PERSONNEL ONLY.
THAT COVERS 107 PEOPLE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
YOU'RE STILL ABOUT 40 CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES DOWN THERE THAT YOU APPROVED A 3% FOR THAT ARE NOT COVERED UNDER THE CURRENT PAY SCALE.
SO I, OKAY, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT.
MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO EXCLUDE THOSE PEOPLE.
SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED, I I POINT THAT OUT.
I JUST WANTED TO TREAT THE PAY SCALE SEPARATELY FROM MY DISCUSSION HERE.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO EXCLUDE THOSE PEOPLE.
UM, FOR PRECINCT ONE IT WOULD BE ABOUT 40,000 PRECINCT TWO'S KIND OF SEPARATE.
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IT WOULD BE ABOUT 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND PRECINCT FOUR, IT'D BE A LITTLE LESS THAN 20,000.SO WHERE ARE WE AT? WHAT'S NEXT? COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU WORKING ON ANYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE? I'M HONESTLY WAITING FOR FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT TOTAL, OH, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT EXTRA 2%.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT INCREASE WOULD BE OVER THE THREE, WHAT THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IS? I KNOW YOU JUST SAID THOSE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE WORKING ON THOSE.
I THINK HE SAID IT WAS LIKE TWO 80, BUT 2 80, 2 86.
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT SALARY ONLY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD A, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS COST ON TOP OF THAT.
WHICH AGAIN, I'M GONNA SAY IS GONNA PUT YOU AROUND THE THREE 50 RANGE.
WELL, NOBODY EVER WANTS TO SAY IT.
I MEAN, BUT I, I KEEP SAYING WE CAN'T DO THAT.
WELL I THINK THAT THAT TRAIN LEFT THE STATION LONGER AGO.
I, I THINK THAT TO TO COMMISSIONER HOLZ, UM, I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, TRYING TO GET TO THAT FIVE, UH, JUST TO MAINTAIN THAT INFLATION RATE WITH THE INDEX BECAUSE WE DON'T, I MEAN JUST WE'RE GOING TO VISIT NEXT YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THE ECONOMY WILL HAVE, WILL TURN, UH, BUT THE, I'M JUST PREPARING YOU FOR MONDAY.
SO WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA, YEAH, WE GOTTA PAY FOR IT.
UM, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF 350.
IS THAT A THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO HERE, HERE'S WHAT I SHOW WOULD BE THE ESTIMATED INCREASE, AND PLEASE DON'T CRUCIFY ME IF I'M A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT FOR GENERAL FUND, THE ESTIMATED INCREASE WOULD BE 2 86, 1 31, AND THIS IS SALARY ONLY.
FOR THE PRECINCTS, IT'D BE ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIX TWO OH NINE.
AND FOR THE, SO NON-PAY SCALE FOLKS, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 43,781.
SO THE TOTAL OF THOSE THREE IS FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX ONE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE THIRTY THREE ROUGHLY.
BECKY, DOES THAT SEEM RELATIVELY ACCURATE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT 440,000 BUCKS, RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A WHOLE THOUGH.
FIRST HALF MILLION DOLLAR, YEAH.
HALF MILLION DOLLARS SALARY ONLY LESS.
SO A LITTLE LESS THAN A HALF MILLION BUCKS SALARY ONLY.
SO THE NUMBERS THAT I JUST GAVE OUT FOR THE PRECINCTS, THAT DOES INCLUDE TOTAL COST.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK TO JUST FUND 10 WITH THE 280, THEN WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEN ADD IN ANOTHER 40 SOMETHING FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA LAND ABOUT THREE 50 TO FOUR FOR FUND 10 FACTOR, RIGHT? I'M ADDITIONAL 2% ON YEAH.
COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE PREPARED FOR THE BACKLASH THAT WE'RE GONNA GET, THEN UH, GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I SEE SOME VACANT LINE ITEMS HERE ON THIS SHEET THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
THE LINE IS VACANT COLAS ARE STILL PUT ON TOP OF IT, SO THAT WAY IF AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN, THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID OR THAT DEPARTMENT CAN PAY THEM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT POSITION THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS.
YEAH, OR THE SAME THING, UM, ON NEW POSITIONS.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS APPROVE THE NEW POSITION AND IF A COLA'S GIVEN THE COLA'S PUT ON TOP OF THAT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE DISCRETION FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
WHETHER THEY WANT TO DAY ONE EMPLOYEE OR FIVE YEAR EMPLOYEE PAY 'EM THE SAME, THEY HAVE THAT BUDGET TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT OR THEY BRING THEM IN, YOU KNOW, LOWER AND HAVE THAT ABILITY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE A POSITION STARTING BEHIND OTHER POSITIONS AND THAT'S WHY THE COLA IS ALWAYS PUT ON TOP OF THE NEW POSITIONS.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS ON THIS SPREADSHEET THAT I'M LOOKING AT, THERE ARE ALREADY LINES BUILT IN WITH THAT 3% COLA FOR THE VACANT POSITION.
SO I THINK THE NUMBERS THAT, OH, OKAY.
YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, I, WELL, BUT I THINK THE SPREADSHEET YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT WAS
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CURRENT THAT WAS NO, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE FOR EMPLOYEE IT WOULD'VE VACANCIES.BUT ANYTHING ON TOP OF THAT, BUT NOT THE I GOTCHA.
OUR EMPLOYEES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US.
I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY RUNNING ON YOU.
I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME POSITIONS THAT RECEIVED A RAISE AND THEN DID GET THE COLA ON TOP OF IT.
SO YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST GO BACK TO THOSE POSITIONS THAT DIDN'T GET THE COLA ON TOP OF IT AND LEAVE 'EM WHERE THEY WERE MAXED OUT AT.
CORRECT? LIKE FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, RECLASS IN THERE FOR SUBSTANTIAL AND THERE WAS NO VOTE TO GIVE THEM A COLA ON TOP.
SO THAT WOULD STAY AS IS CORRECT? I'M ASSUMING.
YEAH, THAT'S HOW THE VOTE WENT.
SO I JUST CLARIFYING THAT'S WHAT THE DECISION WAS.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE INCREASE COLA FOR NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EXCLUDING THE PAY SCALED OFFICERS THAT WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF FROM 3% TO 5%.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO GET INTO DISCUSSION PHASE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I WANT I I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.
YOU ASKED FOR INCREASE FOR YOUR OFFICE.
AND THEN THEY VOTED ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET THE ON OFF THE, THAT DID NOT GO.
I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IN THERE THAT WE NOT HIRE IN THAT, BUT THE GUYS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE WITH MY BOYS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, WILL THEY GET THAT CODE? NO, THE ONES OUTSIDE OF ON THE SHEET, YES THEY DO.
BUT WHAT YOU REQUESTED FOR SPECIFIC POSITIONS, THEY WILL GET WHAT YOU REQUESTED, BUT THE REST OF YOUR DEPARTMENT IS NOT BEING LEFT OUT.
THE REST OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WEREN'T ASKING FOR SPECIFIC SALARIES WILL GET A 3% HOLD UP.
SO IS THAT SO MY, MY MY TERRITORIAL STAFF? YES, YES, YES.
BUT THE TECHS WON'T BECAUSE THEY GOT THE ONES THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKED.
I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS WE'VE GOT LOOKING AT BUDGETING $2 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY.
WE HAVE APPROVED A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE J J A P AND THE STUDY.
SO NOW WE'RE 3 MILLION MORE THAN WE WERE BEFORE WE CAME HERE TODAY.
AND THAT AT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, THAT'S IT.
THAT, THAT AT THE NO NOTE, I THINK MY SHEET SAYS THREE POINT SOMETHING.
SO 2 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY WOULD BE FIVE POINT SOMETHING.
AND THEN ANOTHER IS THAT'S ANOTHER MILLION ON TOP OF IS SIX.
AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE AT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.
THAT'S 6.4 FROM FUND BALANCE, CORRECT.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER AND ANYTHING YOU BACK OFF OF THAT IS AN INCREASE TO FUND BALANCE.
SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO SIX NINE THEN WITH ANOTHER HALF MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
BUT HOW DO YOU VOTE NO FOR UH, OUR EMPLOYEES? I APPRECIATE THE EMPLOYEES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL SAY WORKING FOR THE COUNTY HAS BEEN A PRETTY GOOD THING FOR ME.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TRY GETTING EMPLOYEE MORE MONEY BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE JOB AS GOOD AS YOU HAVE COUNTY PRIVATE YOU, THE OTHER OTHER PART OF THAT IS WE APPROVED IT 10% COLA LAST YEAR.
IS THAT CORRECT? 5% THE PRIOR YEAR AND 5% THE PRIOR YEAR.
I'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE LEAVE, BUT I THOUGHT WE PAID PRETTY GOOD.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED MORE MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANGED, THEY CHANGED THEIR CAREER.
SO AT SOME POINT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU OFFER, YOU'RE STILL GONNA LOSE SOME.
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OKAY.YOU THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION FAILS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEM E ON
[I.E. Discuss/Approve Precincts Fund 50 and Funds 1 -4 for Budget 2023-2024 fiscal year updates. (Judge Deen)]
DISCUSS APPROVED PRECINCTS FUND 50 AND FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET 20 23 20 24 FISCAL YEAR.I'VE PROVIDED YOU ALL, UM, SOMETIME THIS WEEK, UH, UPDATED ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION.
UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT.
UM, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED, THE, THE AMOUNT ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS IN A CONTINGENCY IN FUND 50.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT LATER, THEN, THEN WE COULD DO THAT.
SO, UM, ON HERE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED WHERE I HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50,000 WE'VE BEEN BUDGETING THAT, UM, IN THERE.
AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THAT TAX, UM, INCREASE IS SITTING IN THE PROGRAM CONTINGENCIES AND FUND 50 THAT CAN THEN BE, UM, APPROPRIATED AT A LATER DATE.
IF SO, CHOOSE CAN, CAN I ASK WHAT THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THAT IN A CONTINGENCY IS? WELL, IF YOU DO NOT, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY TODAY THERE'S NO SETTING OF TAX RATE, BUT I NEED SOME SORT OF, HOW DO I BUDGET IT FOR MONDAY? USUALLY IT'S, I KNOW WHAT OUR TAX RATE IS GONNA BE.
I HAVE BUDGETED THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, BUT IF THAT IS NOT WHAT IS ADOPTED AND SPECIFICALLY WITH FUND 50, THAT IMPACTS ALL OF YOUR GUYS' BUDGETS.
AND I'VE HAD NUMEROUS, I FEEL LIKE DISCUSSIONS AND BACK AND FORTH EMAILS ABOUT FUND BALANCE FOR YOUR GUYS' INDIVIDUAL PRECINCTS AND HOW THINGS ARE BUDGETED.
AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU DO NOT SET THE TAX RATE AT WHERE IT'S PROPOSED, THEN IT CHANGES FUND 50 AS WELL AS YOUR GUYS' AT LITERALLY THE LAST MINUTE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF WE COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AFTER OCTOBER 1ST AND YOU KNOW CORRECT, WE'VE PASSED EVERYTHING AND WHATEVER AMOUNT WE'RE AT, IF A CHANGE HAS OCCURRED, IF A TAX RATE HAS BEEN PASSED ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, CAN WE THEN COME BACK AND ALLOCATE THE CONTINGENCY ACCORDING TO THE STANDARD FORM? ABSO WELL, HOWEVER YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO ALLOCATE IT AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT, IT IN THERE.
UM, AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT SET AT THE PROPOSED RATE, I WILL, I WILL LOWER THE CONTINGENCY AND FUND 50, BUT IF WE ALLOCATE IT ALL OUT, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE FUND 50, THE TRANSFERS, THE REVENUE, AND ALL THE BUDGETS FOR THE PRECINCTS AND FUND 50.
SO ADMINISTRATIVELY IT, OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY REGARDING THIS.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I WILL SEND YOU ALL, UM, I I'VE SENT YOU FINAL BUDGETS, BUT I'LL JUST SEND ONE MORE PASS AT YOUR GUYS' BUDGETS.
OKAY JUDGE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK TO ITEM A AND SET A CONTINGENCY.
[I.A. Discuss/Approve General Fund Budget for FY2023-2024. (Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]
UM, THE CURRENT BUDGET HAS A, WELL, WE SET A CONTINGENCY OF 2,000,400 OF THAT WAS APPROPRIATED FOR A NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S A CONTINGENCY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT, BUT IT'S AVAILABLE, UM, TO USE IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO.
UM, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN ACTUALLY, UM, PULL SOMETHING FROM FUND BALANCE IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATED AS IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY AND YOU, IT, THERE'S A WHOLE STATUTE ON THAT OF WHAT DEFINITION THAT IS.
SO YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN, RIGHT? IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COMES UP OR AGAIN, YOU KNOW, 500,000 WAS APPROPRIATED FOR THE PD BUILDING FOR RENOVATIONS, BUT IT MAY BE MORE THAN THAT.
AND IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING IN CONTINGENCY, YOU KNOW, OR CONTRACT WHATEVER MAY COME UP THAT IT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY, BUT HEY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, THEN THOSE FUNDS ARE SET ASIDE.
SO HOWEVER IT DOES BECOME A PART OF THE FINAL BUDGET NUMBER.
AND I, AND I ALWAYS DO, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH IT OR LIKE MY SUMMARY SHEET, I ALWAYS, UH, TRY TO INDICATE OF SAYING THIS BUDGET IS THIS MUCH MORE THAN THIS BUDGET OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATED FOR AN ONGOING OPERATING EXPENDITURE.
OR AGAIN, IF IT WAS SOMETHING OF, IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH CREDIT CALLS OR SOMETHING OF, OF OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY NOTING THAT THIS AMOUNT IS JUST SET ASIDE FOR A CONTINGENCY, OBVIOUSLY UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT MAY COME UP.
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THE 2 MILLION FIGURE AS A, AS A EDUCATED GUESS, I MEAN IT'S, I'M GONNA, WE ADD 2 MILLION, UH, CONTINGENCY MOTION PAID BY COMMISSIONER.I'LL SECOND THAT, THEN I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY ASK THE, THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
SO HOW MUCH ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO PULL OUT A FUND BALANCE NOW BY PUTTING THAT 2 MILLION THERE SOMEWHERE? I THINK WE SAID WHILE AGO SIX.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE 5.5 AND THEN WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENDITURES.
MAKING A TOTAL BUDGET NUMBER OF 82 MILLION MM-HMM.
AND AGAIN, IF I DON'T EXPECT ANY MATERIAL CHANGES, BUT I'M, I'M GOING BACK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE TIME WITH MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WAS INPUT CORRECTLY AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT I TIE THIS TO KIND OF MY MASTER SPREADSHEET AND THEN TIE OUT TO THE OTHERS.
BUT JUST AS ANOTHER PASS THROUGH, 'CAUSE I'M FINISHING ENTERING THE REST OF ITEMS. THANK, THANK.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE GO? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.
OH, MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON ADJOURNMENT.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE ADJOURN? UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO KIM, BECKY, BRIANNA, CYNTHIA, UH, JAMES, UH, MARK, MR. LONG KIM AND EVEN RICH.
OH, YOU DID? OH, I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR NAME.
WELL I DIDN'T MEAN FOR IT TO BE FIRST
UM, I, I I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S HARD WORK.
WE HAVE SENT Y'ALL BACK AND FORTH.
WE HAVE ASKED THINGS OF YOU THAT HAVE CREATED, I HAVE WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME AT THIS POINT, HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF WORK.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY I'VE BEEN, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH Y'ALL.
I THINK Y'ALL ARE EXCELLENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT GOOD PEOPLE WORKING HARD FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY CAN DO.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY IMPRESSED AND I'M VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF Y'ALL'S HARD WORK.
I KNOW THAT THIS YEAR HAS NOT BEEN EASY, SO THANK YOU.
I ECHO THAT AND I'LL GO IN MORE IN DEPTH WITH THAT ON MONDAY AFTER WE ADOPT THIS THING.
NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN.
RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT TEN FIVE THREE.