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WE'RE[I.A. Discuss/Take action on Juvenile Facility in the discovery of asbestos in the building. (Judge Deen)]
GONNA START THE MEETING AT THE PARKER COUNTY, UH, COMMISSION'S COURT SPECIAL MEETING.THE SPECIAL AGENDA ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2023.
IT IS 2:00 PM UH, DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS ON ITEM ONE, A APPROVAL TO DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON JUVENILE FACILITY AND THE DISCOVERY OF ASBESTOS IN THE BUILDING.
UM, WE'VE TRIED TO GET Y'ALL UP TO SPEED AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I'LL HAVE MARK COME UP HERE AND EXPLAIN THE REPORT THAT HAS COME OUT.
UM, WHAT SEEMED LIKE A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, SITUATION, UH, HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE, UM, OF WHAT THAT REPORT IS AND WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
AND ALSO WE DO HAVE THE JUVENILE BOARD, UM, DIRECTORY, OR ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR COMING.
UM, THEY BOTH WILL SPEAK ON THIS AND IF WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND START, IF YOU WOULD COME ON THAT MARK.
THE, UH, IT ALL STARTED WITH WATER IN THE, UH, RECEPTION AREA UNDER THE CARPET AT THE JUVENILE BUILDING.
AND THEN WE COULDN'T REALLY FIND IT.
WE THOUGHT IT ORIGINALLY WAS A SLAB LEAK, BUT AS IT TURNED OUT IT WAS THE P TRAP AND THE KITCHEN SINK.
AND FOR HOW LONG? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT MONTHS BECAUSE IT HAD MIGRATED UNDER AND IT WOULD MIGRATE ALL THE WAY OVER TO WHERE THE LADY SITS AT THE RECEPTION.
SO, AND WE DECIDED THAT, UH, THE BOTTOM OF THE CABINETS WERE DETERIORATED, SO WE PULLED THEM OUT, YOU KNOW, AND STARTED FIXING IT.
AND WHENEVER WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, LAY NEW FLOORING IN THE LOBBY AREA, WE PULLED UP THAT CARPET.
AND WHEN WE PULLED THAT CARPET UP, IT PULLED UP THE 12 BY 12 PIECE OF OLD TILE.
AND UNDER THAT TILE THERE WAS BLACK ASTIC GLUE THAT HELD THE TILE DOWN.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF HER ASHLEY'S EMPLOYEES SAID WE HAD THE SAME THING IN OUR HOUSE, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE ASBESTOS.
I CALLED JOHN AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED.
AND SO THE NEXT DAY WE COME UP AND ASHLEY'S THERE AND WE'RE PUTTING PLASTIC ON THE FLOOR.
BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU HAVE ASBESTOS, IF YOU ENCAPSULATE IT IN SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AIRBORNE AND IT'S, IT WILL BE SAFE.
BUT IF YOU DISTURB IT AND MAKE IT AIRBORNE, THEN YOU HAVE ISSUES.
SO ASHLEY SAID SHE WOULD SHUT THE BUILDING DOWN FOR TWO DAYS.
AND WE WERE IN THERE ROLLING THE GLUE ON THE FLOOR.
NOW, CORRECT ME 'CAUSE I WASN'T THERE WHEN THIS WENT ON.
AND THE SAME EMPLOYEE THAT BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS CAME IN THERE, SLIPPED ON THE GLUE AND HIT HER KNEES.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, I'D COLLECTED A SAMPLE AND WE SENT IT OFF FOR TESTING AND COME BACK 3% IN THE FLOOR TILE AND 5% IN THE MASTIC GLUE.
AND ANYTHING OVER 1% YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN A DIFFERENT FASHION.
AND THOSE GUIDELINES ARE OUT SET BY OSHA AND I THINK STATE, I HAVEN'T DUG INTO IT MUCH.
SO WITH THAT GOING ON AND I SENT THOSE RESULTS, IT, UH, THEY, THEY JUDGE DEAN, WE WERE FINISHING UP THAT PROJECT FRIDAY AND JUDGE DEAN TEXTED ME, SAID, GET OUR PEOPLE OUTTA THERE.
AND CAN I EXPLAIN THAT? I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A BOARD MEETING, UH, THAT'S FINE.
AND THEN, SO THAT'S WHAT THE, THE BOARD MEETING REQUESTED THAT TO BE DONE.
AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST PLAY IT SAFE AND BE SURE THAT WE WERE COVERING ALL BASES ON THIS.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? EVERYTHING SO FAR? OKAY.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, I HAD SYLVIA, SINCE THE TEST FLOOR COME BACK, WE DECIDED TO DO AN AIRBORNE TEST JUST LIKE WE DID IN THE OLD COUNTY ATTORNEY BUILDING ON COLUMBIA.
SO WE GOT THE THINGS SET UP FOR TODAY AT NINE O'CLOCK, ALTHOUGH HE WAS A LITTLE BIT LATE FOR TRAFFIC.
AND HE'S DONE AN AIRBORNE TEST.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, I, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW I'VE DONE IT, BUT ASHLEY HAD BROUGHT THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORKED THERE UP SO THEY COULD TALK TO THE TESTING COMPANY PERSON AND ASK THEIR OWN QUESTIONS AND STUFF.
AND SO WHAT COME OF THAT WAS NOT ONLY DID WE DECIDE TO DO AN AIRBORNE TEST, BUT A SURFACE TEST, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SPECIAL PIECE OF LIKE TAPE AND THEY GO IN AND THEY JUST DAB IT AND THE EMPLOYEES WANTED THAT IN EVERY ROOM.
SO WE DID, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE DON'T HAVE THE RESULTS YET.
'CAUSE WE HAD ADDITIONAL TESTING.
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THE, UH, BASED ON WHAT I TOLD THE GUY, HE TOLD ME THAT IN THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS, SINCE YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT CURTAIN OFF OR WHATEVER, THAT THE ASBESTOS USUALLY STAYED IN THERE ONE, TWO TO THREE HOURS, ONE HOUR.'CAUSE WE HAD THE FRONT DOOR OPEN WHEN I GOT UP THERE, WE HAD THE FRONT DOOR OPEN IN THE BACK WINDOW AND THERE WAS A PRETTY GOOD BREEZE GOING THROUGH.
BUT NOBODY REALLY KNOWS UNTIL YOU DO THE TESTING.
SO MY SUGGESTION, WHEN WILL WE KNOW THE RESULTS? I'M HOPING FIVE, SIX O'CLOCK TONIGHT.
SO YOU'LL GET AHOLD OF EACH ONE OF US? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I JUST DON'T REALLY THINK ANY MAJOR DECISIONS, I WOULDN'T MAKE 'EM UNTIL I HAD THE FACTS.
BUT THE THING ABOUT AS LONG AS THAT ASBESTOS THAT'S ENCAPSULATED IS NOT DISTURBED, IT'S A SAFE PLACE TO BE.
ASHLEY, IF YOU WOULD, UM, WOULD YOU COME ON UP? WELL, MR. LONG, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH COVERED ALL THE DETAILS JUST AS FAR AS GIVING YOU GUYS A TIMEFRAME.
UM, IT WAS FRIDAY, DECEMBER THE EIGHTH WHEN THE FLOORING ACTUALLY STARTED TO GET PULLED UP IN, IN OUR BUILDING, AT WHICH TIME ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES ALERTED THAT THE BLACK MASTIC FLOORING LOOKED SIMILAR TO A SITUATION THAT SHE HAD HAD IN A HOME SHE LIVED IN THAT RESULTED IN ASBESTOS ABATEMENT.
I DID ASK THE MAINTENANCE TECH THAT WAS IN THE BUILDING AT THAT TIME.
WAS THERE CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING ASBESTOS OR WAS THAT ASBESTOS? AND AT THAT TIME I WAS TOLD NO, IT WAS JUST THE GLUING THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY KEPT THE TILE ON THE FLOOR.
UM, ON THE 11TH, I HAD ALL OF MY STAFF WORK IN THE FIELD, UM, AND NOT COME INTO THE OFFICE.
UM, BECAUSE ON THE EIGHTH, I, I HAD EVERYBODY LEAVE EARLY BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, UM, OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND BECAUSE OF THE INTENSE SMELL IN THE OFFICE.
UM, AS MR. LONG ALLUDED TO ON THE 11TH, I HAD EVERYBODY STAY OUT IN THE FIELD.
UH, ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES CAME IN TO GET AN ASSESSMENT THAT SHE NEEDED TO, UM, COMPLETE WITH A JUVENILE THAT SHE WAS DOING INTAKE ON.
AT THAT POINT IS WHEN SHE SLIPPED AND FELL ON THE GLUE ADHESIVE AND HIT HER KNEE, WORKERS' COMPENSATION WAS, UH, PAPERWORK WAS COMPLETED.
SHE, UH, DECIDED NOT TO SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION, BUT THAT OPTION WAS OFFERED TO HER ON THE 12TH.
MYSELF AND ALL OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT WERE IN DALLAS.
'CAUSE WE HAD ELECTRONIC MONITOR, UH, TRAINING ON THAT DATE.
AND WE RETURNED TO THE OFFICE, UM, AT APPROXIMATELY ONE 30 IN THE AFTERNOON ON THE 13TH.
I HAD STAFF THAT WERE IN AND OUT OF THE OFFICE.
UM, MOST OF THE WORK WAS DONE IN THE FIELD.
I WAS IN ELLIS COUNTY MEETING WITH THE CHIEF THERE AND, UM, TOURING THEIR JJAP ON DECEMBER THE 14TH.
THAT WAS A PHYSICAL WORK DAY, UM, FOR, FOR EVERYONE.
ON THE 15TH, UH, ON FRIDAY THE 15TH AT ABOUT 7 45 IS WHEN I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM MR. LONG LETTING US KNOW THAT HE HAD RECEIVED THE RESULTS OF THE TESTING AND IT WAS POSITIVE.
SO I CONTACTED, UH, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF AND WE MADE SURE THAT ALL STAFF, UM, EXITED THE BUILDING AND CONTINUED TO WORK IN THE FIELD AND FROM HOME.
WE DID HAVE JUVENILE BOARD MEETING AT NOON ON THE 15TH, AND THE JUVENILE BOARD WAS MADE AWARE OF THE CONCERNS, UM, AND PROVIDED A COPY OF THE REPORT.
UH, AFTER THE JUVENILE BOARD MEETING, ALL OF MY STAFF WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE TILE FLOORING THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED HAD TESTED POSITIVE FOR ASBESTOS AND THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE PLANS, UM, MOVING FORWARD TO EITHER WORK FROM HOME OR IN THE FIELD OR AT AN ALTERNATE LOCATION UNTIL WE RECEIVED THE RESULTS OF THE TEST.
UM, STAFF WERE, UM, INVITED TO BE PRESENT IN THE PARKING LOT THIS MORNING AND SPEAK WITH THE TESTER IN CASE THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EXPOSURE OR ANY PARTICULAR AREAS IN THEIR OFFICE, UM, THAT THEY WANTED, UH, TESTED.
ALL THE PROBATION OFFICERS, UM, STATED THAT THEY WANTED A SAMPLE TEST DONE IN EACH OF THEIR OFFICES, GIVEN THE DUST AND EVERYTHING THAT HAD SETTLED ON ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT.
SO JUST LIKE MR. LONG STATED AS WELL, WE'RE JUST AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THOSE TEST RESULTS ARE.
UH, SO THERE'S, JUST TO KIND OF BRING THIS INTO FOCUS HERE, OR THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ISSUES.
ONE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESULTS BACK FROM THE TEST YET.
AND IN THE BOARD MEETING, UM, BEING GUIDED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE, THE JUVENILE BOARD AS A WHOLE, UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST AND YOU GOT A COPY OF THIS LETTER.
AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, HAS BEEN ASKED.
'CAUSE AT THE TIME THIS WAS A SERIOUS 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT ASBESTOS HAS BEEN IN THE BUILDING, IT'S BEEN NOW AIRBORNE.
AND SO OUR SAFETY NOW BECOMES THAT OF THE EMPLOYEES.
AND SO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.
UH, JUDGE QUISENBERRY HAS WRITTEN A LETTER, UH, TO REQUEST THE, UM, THE USE
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OF THE WEATHERFORD PD ON A TEMPORARY BASIS UNTIL THERE COULD BE REMEDIATION DONE.UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A, A SITUATION WHERE WE KNOW AND CONFIRM THAT IT IS A SERIOUS SITUATION WHERE IT'S HARMFUL TO, OR AT LEAST DETRIMENTAL TO EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT THERE'S TWO ISSUES HERE GOING, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION YET, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND SCHEDULED THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING REQUEST UPON THE JUVENILE BOARD.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, UH, MARK HAS DONE EVERYTHING HE CAN TO TRY TO GET THESE TESTS DONE QUICKLY.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT COMPLETE INFORMATION YET.
UH, SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE IN A HOLDING PATTERN UNTIL WE DETERMINE WHAT TO DO.
AND SO IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO WORK REMOTELY OR WHATEVER THE DISCRETION THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, WITH YOURSELF IN THE JUVENILE BOARD AS A WHOLE ING UH, JUDGE QUISENBERRY.
BUT, UM, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, UH, TO DO THAT.
BUT IT JUST WANNA STRESS THAT IT'S NOT A A ANY ATTEMPT TO, TO MAKE A DECISION TO USE THE WEATHERFORD A PD BUILDING, UH, ON AN INDEFINITE BASIS, BUT ONLY AS A TEMPORARY, UH, NEED UNTIL WE GET REMEDIATION AND WHATEVER ELSE TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE.
UH, WHICH WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION.
ONE THING I, I SPOKE WITH MARK ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT WE COULD RECESS TODAY'S MEETING UNTIL TOMORROW AT A CERTAIN TIME, NINE O'CLOCK POSSIBLY, UH, HAVE THAT PARTICULAR EXPERT COME IN, PRESENT HIS REPORT, HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AS TO SAFETY OF GOING BACK IN OR WHAT IS REQUIRED TO REMEDIATE AND WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.
THEY COULD HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED TOMORROW AT NINE O'CLOCK IF WE'D RECONVENE AT THAT TIME.
AND MARK, I BELIEVE HE SAID HE WAS AVAILABLE.
WE'D HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT MENTAL HEARING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COURT? AND, AND HE COULD SHARE THE INFORMATION TONIGHT, BUT ALSO STILL HAVE THE MEETING TOMORROW TO DISCUSS CORRECT.
SO, AND WHAT ACTION DID IT TAKE? CORRECT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A COMMENT.
UM, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE REMEDIATION TIMELINE? UH, JUST A BALLPARK GUESS IS FINE.
ARE WE REMEDIATION? ME IS LIKE
AND IF WE DO FIND SOMEONE ON SERVICE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GOING THERE.
BUT TO, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER OLD HAS ASKED, I MEAN, WOULD YOU SEE THAT PROCESS BEING TWO WEEKS, ONE WEEK, TWO DAYS? TWO DAYS PROBABLY.
I'VE NOT DOWN BEFORE, SO I DUNNO.
THEN THE QUESTION WOULD THEN BE, ASHLEY, IN THAT CASE, IF YOU'RE OFFICE IN REMOTE, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE JUVENILES AND YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS, UM, WITH INTERVIEWS AND SO FORTH, UH, CAN YOU FUNCTIONALLY OPERATE EFFECTIVELY IN A REMOTE SITUATION RATHER THAN, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A BUILDING FOR TWO DAYS, I THINK THE TIMING OF GETTING THINGS IN THERE THAT YOU NEED IS PROBABLY GONNA BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE ON THAT YOU WOULD COME UP AND SPEAK TO THEM.
I WOULD SEE NO REASON WHY WE COULD NOT MAKE OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS.
UM, WE HAD THREE NEW HIRES START TODAY.
UM, SO IT WAS A GREAT ENTRANCE.
UM, SO WE ARE WORKING REMOTELY FROM JUDGE TOWSON'S, UM, INFORMAL COURTROOM SO I CAN CONDUCT, UH, TRAININGS WITH THEM.
UM, IF IT IS JUST FOR A MINIMAL PERIOD OF TIME, UM, I WOULD SEE NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THE ISSUE JUST IS THE ABILITY TO PRINT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO PRINT ANY DOCUMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, NO ACCESS TO TO UA SHOULD, WE NEED TO, UM, DO A UA FOR A CHILD.
UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR A WEEK, UM, IF SO NEEDED.
HOW MANY STUDENTS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PROGRAM? HOW, HOW MANY JUVENILES DO WE HAVE ON PROBATION? YES.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1 74 THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON SITE.
THAT'S JUST HOW MANY JUVENILES WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON PROBATION.
BUT ON SITE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYBODY, UH, COME IN.
WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT ALL VISITS AT SCHOOL.
WE HAVE EVENING CLASSES, GED CLASSES, SEX OFFENDER CLASSES, UM, PARENTING CLASSES.
WE HAVE WORKED, UH, CLOSELY WITH THE AG EXTENSION OFFICE, WHICH IS ACROSS THE PARKING LOT.
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AND THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THEIR SPACE THIS WEEK TO ACCOMMODATE GROUPS.MAYBE THIS IS ME MISUNDERSTANDING THE SITUATION.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS PART OF THE APPEAL OF THE SANTA FE BUILDING WAS IT OFFERED MORE SPACE IN A RELATIVELY SECURE LOCATION FOR WHEN YOU DID EVENTUALLY HAVE KIDS WHO ARE TROUBLED INDIVIDUALS COME INTO THE PROGRAM.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO FOR, ARE YOU ASKING WHEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL JUVENILES BE PLACED ON PROBATION? I, I THINK PROBABLY ARE YOU, ARE YOU TRYING TO I'M I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BETWEEN KIDS THAT ARE ON PROBATION, JUVENILES ON PROBATION AND KIDS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO JJA.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS AT THIS FACILITY.
IT'S ONLY ADULTS WHO ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THEN, UM, THE JUVENILES AND FAMILIES OF PARKER COUNTY THAT COME IN FOR REGULAR OFFICE VISITS AND AND PROGRAMMING, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE THAT? OR THE NEXT WEEK? WELL, WE CAN MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO USING THE AG EXTENSION OFFICE.
BUT WE HAVE KIDS COME IN EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND WE HAVE GROUPS EVERY DAY, BUT FRIDAY.
AND I'VE ALSO CANCELED COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE AS WELL.
SO FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, FROM YOU SAY PRINTING AND SO FORTH AND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THAT YOU'RE GONNA NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT YOU CURRENTLY USE? MM-HMM.
IS THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE TO GET SOMETHING OVER.
ARE YOU IN THAT COMMON AREA? YES.
WE, WE COULD ADD
SO AS THEY CONTINUE TO SEND REFERRALS TO US FOR NEW OFFENSES, WE'VE JUST TOLD THEM TO NOTIFY US WHEN THEY HAVE PAPERWORK, WHICH THEY TYPICALLY BRING OVER.
AND WE WILL COME AND, AND PICK THAT UP.
I DON'T HAVE EMAIL, BUT HE JUST TEXT ME ALPHA ENVIRONMENTAL ASBESTOS THAT UH, ALL THE AIR SAMPLES ARE GOOD THAT THEY TOOK.
SO THAT, IS THAT THE REPORT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO THINKING WE'RE GONNA GET LATER ON? WHICH IS YOU SAYING THE AIR IS FINE, BUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SURFACE.
SO ONE, ONE MORE JUST REQUEST, UH, MR. LONG, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE RUNNING AROUND VERY, VERY BUSY.
Y'ALL HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS TO TAKE CARE OF AND THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS IN THE BEST OF CONDITION 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT NEW BUILDINGS.
IS THERE ANY TYPE OF TRAINING THAT CAN BE OFFERED TO YOUR EMPLOYEES AS FAR AS RECOGNIZING POTENTIAL ASBESTOS SITES? YOU KNOW, UH, TRAINING TRAINING'S GOOD, BUT THIS CASE LOOK AT SOMETHING, SAY IT DOES, DOESN'T BE TO GO AHEAD AND DO TESTING ON ALL BUILDINGS AND HAVE ON FILE BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING CONTRACTOR SUPPOSED TO START A JOB ONLY, SO, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? BASICALLY TEST.
YEAH, TEST SHEET DROP, YOU KNOW, CEILING TILE, WHATEVER.
IT'S, SO WE, SO LOOKING BACK, HINDSIGHT, IF WE PULLED THE CARPET UP IN THAT, UH, RECOGNIZING ASBE, NOBODY ASBE FAIR ENOUGH.
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD ASK A VENDOR TO PROVIDE A QUOTE ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO THAT TYPE OF TESTING ON ALL OF OUR FACILITIES TODAY BE AROUND TWO GRAND, FIVE? YEAH.
SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE, AND MY OFFICE MANAGERS, I'M SICK, SO I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WHAT IT COSTS, BUT I WANNA SAY OKAY, FOUR SAMPLES.
AND I DO JUST WANNA LET THE COURT KNOW, UM, AS WELL THAT BECKY MCCULLOUGH, UM, CONTACTED ME, UH, ON FRIDAY AS WELL AND SAID THAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO A WORKERS' COMPENSATION REPORT ON EVERY ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAD BEEN IN A BUIL IN THE BUILDING.
UM, JUST SO IT IS ON FILE, AGAIN, NOT A WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM, BUT A REPORT THAT WE DID HAVE EMPLOYEES PRESENT IN A BUILDING THAT THEN TESTED POSITIVE FOR ASBESTOS.
AND JUST TO SPEAK TO, ADDITIONALLY TO OUR MEETING THIS MORNING WITH THE TESTER, UM, MARK, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, I DO BELIEVE HE WAS GONNA TEST SOME OF THE SHEET ROCK AS WELL BECAUSE THE SHEET ROCK HAD BEEN CUT INTO YES.
AND AND THAT'S WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FRY
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ABILITY AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THAT.TALK ABOUT THAT PART OF THE FRIABILITY.
OKAY, SO FROM MENTAL NOTE OF THE FRIABILITY, UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY MATERIAL THAT CAN CRUMBLE.
UM, THIS WAS FROM READING THE TEST, UH, REPORT AS WELL THAT WOULDN'T TOUCH, SO LIKE SHEET ROCK, THERE WAS SOME SHEET ROCK WORK DONE AS WELL.
UM, AND BASICALLY THEY CONSIDER AN AREA NOT CONTAMINATED.
IF UPON THAT AIR SAMPLE THERE IS LESS THAN ONE, UM, FIBER PER, UH, ONE CUBIC CENTIMETER.
ANOTHER THING, PROBABILITY SHEET DUST, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DID A SMALL PATCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT, THAT THE KITCHEN AREA, LITTLE BIGGER, BUT WHAT WE TESTED WAS THE FOUR UP AND MA GLUE AND THE FLOOR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT CHEAP ROCK, JUST MATERIAL.
SO IT WASN'T, IT'S NOT LIKE THE SAME, THEY KNOW TWO TYPES.
SO MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, IT'S NOT THE SHEET ROCK, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE, THE TYPE AND THE MATERIAL USED FOR TEXTURE.
WELL IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SHEET ROCK.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK I, BUT WE'LL KNOW LATER THAT HE DID TAKE A STEP
SO WE TO YOUR, IT'S GOT 1% OR MORE.
SO TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITH THE TAPING TEST, ADDITIONAL TESTING THAT WAS DONE.
WE STILL WERE WAITING ON THAT SURFACE SURFACE TESTING, SURFACE TESTING, STILL WAITING ON THE SURFACE TESTING.
SO AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT EMPLOYEE WANTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURFACE ALL AREAS.
BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT UP THAT PREVIOUS.
SO COUNSELOR, NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD WHAT WE'VE HEARD, IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION STILL THE SAME AS TO RECESS UNTIL TOMORROW AT NINE O'CLOCK? DO WE GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY.
REGARDLESS OF THE FINDING, WE PROBABLY NEED A DEEP CLEANSE ANYWAY JUST TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S SAFETY AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SECURE GOING BACK INTO THAT BUILDING.
JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, THE MEETING UNTIL 9:00 AM TOMORROW.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IN THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.
OH I AND THAT'S FOR MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE GONNA THIS CORRECT.
I CALLED MYSELF AS I SAID THAT.
UM, WE'LL RECESS AT RECORD SHOW AT 2 23 UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK TOMORROW MORNING, WHICH WILL BE DECEMBER 19TH.