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[Call to Order]
UH, GOOD MORNING.I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS MEETING OF THE PARTNER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ORDER ON THE 11TH DAY OF MARCH.
I'LL LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 9:00 AM WE DO HAVE THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENCE PRESENT.
UH, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN POSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, WE WILL BEGIN THE INVOCATION LED BY MARK JULIAN FROM NORTH SIDE BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, LED BY PARKER COUNTY JUDGE COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR A NEW DAY, FOR A NEW WEEK THAT WE MIGHT, UH, LOOK TO YOU.
YOU'RE THE ALMIGHTY, THE KING OF KING, AND LORD OF LORDS.
WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION, YOUR GUIDANCE.
I THANK YOU FOR THESE COMMISSIONERS, AND GOD HELP THEM WITH THEIR AGENDA.
BUT LORD, WE LOOK TO YOU UPON HIGH.
THANK YOU FOR LOVING US, FOR SENDING YOUR SON JESUS TO SAVE US.
GIVE US THIS DAY, GOD, THAT WE MIGHT HONOR YOU.
I TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR OF THE TEXAS FLAG, I, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
[4. CONSENT]
MOVE TO ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNDER ITEM A, ITEM ONE, TWO, AND THREE.UNDER AUDITOR ITEM B, UNDER TREASURER ITEMS ONE AND THREE AND UNDER C, COUNTY JUDGE ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED.
MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN FOR APPROVAL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALES THERE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
[4.D.1. Interdepartmental transfers of equipment and inventory reports.]
TO ITEM D ONE OR INTER DEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS OR EQUIPMENT INVENTORY REPORTS.MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON AUTHORIZATION
[4.D.2. Authorization to Advertise: PC24-34 Motor Fuels. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
TO ADVERTISE PC 24 DASH 34 MOTOR FUELS REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COURT TO ADVERTISE PC 24 DASH 34 MOTOR FUELS.THIS IS JUST OUR ANNUAL BID, UM, FOR ALL OF THE PRECINCTS AND BUILDING AND GROUNDS IS ANTICIPATED ADVERTISING DATES OF MARCH 12TH AND MARCH 19TH WITH THE ANTICIPATED OPENING OF APRIL 3RD AND AWARD DATE OF APRIL 8TH.
MOTION WILL MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE FIVE OH OH AND THE
[5.A. Precinct #3 will be on private property at Fairview and Grindstone Creek Bridge to remove a tree, owner Keith Schrick. (Commissioner Walden)]
NOTIFICATIONS UNDER FIVE A.UH, PRECINCT THREE WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AT FAIRVIEW ON GR GRINDSTONE CREEK BRIDGE TO REMOVE A TREE.
UH, THE OWNER IS KEITH STRICK.
UH, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT COMMISSIONER? PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
[5.B. Precinct #3 will be on private property at Fox Rd and Barnes to remove a tree to improve drainage, owner Robert Doughtery. (Commissioner Walden)]
PRECINCT THREE WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AT FOX ROAD AND BARNES TO REMOVE THE TREE TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE.UH, THE OWNER IN THAT IS ROBERT DARTY SIGN.
[Items 6.B. and 6.C.]
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MOVE DOWN TO ITEM SIX C.I DON'T THINK CHRIS BUS WAS HERE YET ANYWAY.
UM, UNDER SIX C AND DISCUSS APPROVED CANDIDATE MISTY, I'M GONNA BUTCHER THIS.
WHAT'D YOU SAY, BRUCE? YOU'RE NOT MESS WITH ME.
ARE YOU
UM, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? I BET, GERALD, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T.
OH, BEFORE THESE LADIES COME UP TO SPEAK, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT AS PRESIDENT OF THIS BOARD, WE ARE SO HONORED TO HAVE THESE LADIES THAT WANT TO COME AND SERVE.
THEY ARE PRETTY WELL LIFELONG RESIDENTS OF PARKER COUNTY, AND THEY'VE RAISED THEIR FAMILIES NOW THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND SERVE WITH THIS BOARD.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THERE WERE 158 CHILDREN IN CUSTODY THAT WE MADE CHRISTMAS A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE WE, WE DID, UH, BUY CHRISTMAS FOR THOSE CHILDREN.
SO ANYWAY, WE ARE PROUD TO BRING THESE LADIES, LAURA HOOKS, MISTY RUEL, BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
AND IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
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WE CAN, OKAY.UM, AND, AND LAURA ALSO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING
SO THE MOTION, UH, THAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOR IS TO APPROVE LAURA HOOKS FOR THE, UH, PARKER COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BOARD, AS WELL AS MISTY, UH,
I, I'M TRYING, IT'S, UM, THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
WOULD Y ALLALL LIKE TO COME UP? THANK YOU.
WE'D LIKE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOUR PICTURE WITH US.
WHAT I TELL EVERYONE AND I DIDN'T TRUST JOHN, IS THIS OKAY? ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE TWO PICTURES.
GERALD, WE HAVE SOMETHING WE WANT TO GIVE YOU.
YOU GOTTA GET IT FROM THE CLERK.
WE'RE GOING PASS IT BACK AROUND.
A LILA'S GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
JUST, SHE GOING TO, SHE GOING TO STAMP IT AND GIVE IT TO YOU, GERALD? YEAH, WE'LL PASS IT.
WE'LL, WE WILL GET IT AROUND TO YOU.
PARDON? IF YOU'LL HAVE A SEAT, WE'LL GET IT AROUND TO YOU.
[6.A. Discuss/Take action on ongoing reporting of bond projects to Commissioners Court by Freese & Nichols. (Chris Bosco / Commissioner Holt)]
A ON DISCUSSION.TAKE ACTION ON ONGOING REPORTING TO BOND PROJECTS TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT BY PRESIDENT NICHOLS.
UH, THIS IS AN ON ONGOING STANDING AGENDA ITEM.
I TRY UNPLUGGING IT AND PLUG IT BACK IN.
ARE YOU GUYS SEEING IT ON Y'ALL'S INDIVIDUAL SCREENS OR NO? NO, NO.
BUT WE HAVE TO FLIP SWITCH TO SEE IT.
IS THERE A SWITCH DOWN? IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE OUR IT DIRECTOR AND
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, CHRIS? I KNOW.
WELL, MY IPAD'S ACTING LIKE IT'S PICKING IT UP.
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THAT SHOULD BE ON USUALLY WHEN IT GOES ON THIS SCREEN.WELL, I I CAN JUST TALK THROUGH AND THEN EMAIL Y'ALL THE SLIDES.
DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? UM, OKAY.
SO, UH, CHRIS BOSCO FREEZE NICHOLS.
UH, THIS IS, UH, OUR MONTHLY UPDATE.
UM, SO THE FIRST ACTIVITIES I WANTED TO KIND OF HIT ON IS, UM, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, THROUGH THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.
UH, SO WE HAD A, UM, THE JUDGE AND I, UH, ATTEND A MEETING TO MEET WITH, UH, THE FORT WORTH DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING.
UH, I'M ACTUALLY PREPARING KIND OF NOTES FROM THAT.
I'LL EMAIL ALL OF Y'ALL SO Y'ALL WILL BE ABLE TO SEE.
BUT, UH, THEY DID LIKE THE 33 25, UH, THAT EXTENSION, UH, ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, THE KIND OF ACTIONS OUT OF THAT WAS TO TALK TO COG TO GET IT ON THE, THE, THEIR PLAN.
AND THEN, UH, TECH STOCK SAID IF WE DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, THEN THEY'LL PICK UP THE FINAL DESIGN, UH, WITH THE BIGGER 33 25 JOB.
SO I THINK THAT WAS A PROMISING DEAL.
UM, WE DID TALK A LOT ABOUT THE I 20 PROJECTS.
UH, SO, UH, THEY WANT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THE SCHEMATIC FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS, BUT THEN THE COUNTY WOULD PICK UP THE FINAL DESIGN OF THOSE FRONTAGE ROADS.
BUT THEY FELT LIKE THAT WITH THEIR BIGGER I 20 JOB, IT WILL BE EASIER IF THEY HAVE ONE, THEIR CONSULTANT DO THE SCHEMATIC FOR THOSE FRONTAGE ROADS.
AND SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL WE'LL REFLECT THAT 'CAUSE WE HAD BUDGETED AS IF WE WERE DOING THE SCHEMATIC.
SO WE WILL, WE WILL UPDATE THAT, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PLAN.
BUT, UH, AND THEN WE DID TALK ABOUT SEVERAL SAFETY PROJECTS LIKE, UH, CARTER ROAD, COMMISSIONER HOLT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE WITH THEIR CONSULTANT DOING 51 TO SEE, 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE IN THEIR SCOPE WITH THEIR CONSULTANT TO DO SOME EARLY SAFETY INITIATIVES.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A KEY ELEMENT FOR THEM AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE KICKED OFF THE SURVEY ACTIVITIES FROM WHAT Y'ALL APPROVED, UH, A COUPLE COURTS AGO.
UM, SOME OF THAT IS, UH, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN DOING MORE OF THE OFFICE WORK OF RESEARCH AND PROPERTY.
UM, I, I HAD A SLIDE HERE I'LL JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE IT OF, SO ON, UH, CHURCH ROAD, UH, WORKING ON GETTING A ROD OF ENTRY, UH, TO DO THE FIELD WORK THERE, UH, THEY STARTED THE FIELD WORK ON OAK RIDGE, UH, WORKING ON GETTING RIDE OF ENTRY ON JOHNSON BEND AND GREEN ACRES, THE EAST WEST ARTERIAL, UH, TO GET RIDE OF ENTRY ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
UH, THEY'RE STARTING FIELD WORK ON, UH, RICK WILLIAMSON AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.
AND THEN THEY, UH, STARTED FIELD WORK ON BANKHEAD, UH, ON FRIDAY.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ALL THE SURVEYS THAT, THAT WE HAVE, UH, GOING.
UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE STARTED SOME COORDINATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON JOHNSON BEND AND GREEN ACRES.
UH, SO WE, I GOT THEM INTRODUCED TO, UH, PINNACLE AND SARAH REBE.
UH, SO TO ANSWER ANY OF THEIR QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UH, OLD WEATHERFORD ROAD, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST COURT I PRESENTED THAT WE HAD THAT OUT FOR BID.
UH, WE ACTUALLY CANCELED THOSE BIDS AND PLANNED TO RE ADVERTISE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT DECISION WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS GOING TO, UH, COME BACK WITH HIGHER BIDS.
'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, THE GEOTECH AND SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, SOME OF THE QUANTITIES ON THE JOB.
WE, UH, ON THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, FREEZE IS NOT THE ENGINEER ON THAT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER AND THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, GOT THAT, UH, WORKED OUT.
AND SO WE'RE PLANNING TO ADVERTISE AGAIN NEXT WEEK.
UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS I HAVE FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY IS TO GET APPROVAL TO DO GEOTECH.
UH, IT WOULD BE PART OF, UM, WHAT COG IS PAYING FOR.
THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, DEPOSITED THOSE FUNDS WITH Y'ALL.
UH, THE, THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER, THEY HAD GEOTECH FOR THE SUBDIVISION, BUT NOT THE ROAD.
AND SO THE CONTRACTORS THAT INDICATED TO US THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MUCH ROCK EXCAVATION WILL BE.
SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE, WE HAVE THAT, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY,
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UH, WE'RE WORKING ON, ON THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SIDE, UPDATING THE WEBSITE.UH, SHAREPOINT IS, UH, THE TOOL WE'RE GONNA USE TO KIND OF COLLABORATE IN TERMS OF FILE SHARING AND, UH, FOR Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE UPDATES.
UH, POWER BI IS, UH, THE TOOL WE PLAN TO USE TO COMMUNICATE KIND OF THE FINANCIALS, UH, WHERE BRIANNA AND KIM, AS WELL AS YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT LIVE.
UH, SO THAT'S ANOTHER KEY TOOL THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE RFQ OUT STILL FOR, UH, THE ON SYSTEM PROJECTS, UH, GETTING THE OTHER, UH, ENGINEERING FIRMS ON BOARD.
UH, THEIR SUBMISSION OF THEIR STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS IS DUE ON THE 19TH OF MARCH.
UH, SO ONE ELEMENT THERE IS, UM, GETTING A SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THE REVIEW OF THOSE.
UM, ONE, UH, ONE KIND OF SET UP.
WHAT THE WAY WE'VE ASKED IS THAT WE'LL GET THREE DIFFERENT PACKAGES.
SO THE ENGINEERING FIRM'S INTERESTED IN THOSE PROJECTS, THEY CAN SUBMIT ON ALL THREE.
SO BEING I 20 11, 87 OR SEVEN 30, UH, AND OR THEY CAN SUBMIT ON JUST ONE.
SO A FIRM COULD SAY, HEY, I'M, I'M JUST INTERESTED IN 1187 AND SUBMIT ON THAT.
UH, SO FROM A SELECTION COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WANTED TO RECOMMEND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE, UH, KIM BRIANNA, UM, JUDGE DEAN, AND, UH, AND CHAD MARBUT WITH THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.
AND THEN THE THINKING WOULD BE COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
YOU'D BE ON, ON THE I 20, UH, COMMITTEE.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT WOULD BE ON THE SEVEN 30.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER HALE WOULD BE ON THE 1187.
UH, MY ROLE WOULD BE I WOULD REVIEW THE SO QS AND JUST PROVIDE, UH, NOTES TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR, FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.
UH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO VOTE ON THAT NOW OR IF THAT, UH, IF THAT COMMITTEE SOUNDS, UH, SOUNDS GOOD TO YOU.
UH, 'CAUSE WE WOULD, WE BASICALLY GET THOSE IN ON THE 19TH, AND THEN I WOULD ORGANIZE FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AFTER REVIEW OF THAT.
UM, SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM OF, OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, IT'D BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PUT IN PLACE SO WE COULD GET MOVING WITH THE SCHEDULING OF IT AND ORGANIZE INTO THAT COMMITTEE.
SO IT'D BE GOOD TO GET THAT DONE NOW IF THAT, IF THAT, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT THAT, UH, WE TWEAK IT? OR IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? NO, IT'S ACCEPTABLE.
I THINK WE CAN DO IT UNDER THIS AGENDA ITEM.
I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, MR. BOSCO REGARDING THE COMMITTEE FOR, UH, BIDS.
GOOD MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN FOR APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? UM, OKAY.
SO NEXT ITEM IS, UH, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER ITEMS THAT WILL BE COMING UP REALLY OVER THE NEXT, UM, FEW WEEKS.
SO, UM, I WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH A TIMELINE AND, AND WE WILL GET, I'LL GET THIS GRAPHIC TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN SEE.
BUT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, WHAT I HAVE ON MY SCREEN HERE IS A POWERPOINT, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A FORMAL MONTHLY REPORT THAT WE CAN UPLOAD FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW.
UH, SO WE'RE TARGETING TO HAVE THAT REPORT AT THE NEXT UPDATE, WHICH WOULD BE APRIL 8TH.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, DRAFT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE'RE TARGETING TO HAVE THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON APRIL 22ND.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, GOING THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, SEEKS THE COURT'S APPROVAL ON THE SELECTION OF THE, UH, THREE CONSULTANTS, UH, THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE.
THAT WOULD BE A APRIL 22ND, UH, TARGET THERE.
AND THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE FORMAL APPROVAL OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PLAN ON MAY 13TH.
SO THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE WEEKS THERE AFTER WE PRE PRESENT THE DRAFT TO YOU.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'RE TARGETING AT THE END OF MAY TO HAVE THE SHAREPOINT AND POWER BI, SO THAT'D BE MAY 27TH TO HAVE THAT, UH, OPERATIONAL.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THAT IS Y'ALL SEE THAT DATA WILL BE UPDATED WEEKLY AND THEN EACH MONTH WE WILL, UH, BASICALLY SNAPSHOT THAT INTO THE MONTHLY REPORT, UH, THAT WE SHARE.
UH, AND THEN WE WOULD TARGET, UH, ONCE WE'VE HAD THE SELECTION OF THE OTHER CONSULTANTS, WE'D BE TARGETING THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE TO BRING, UH, CONTRACTS FORWARD ON THE DESIGNS OF THOSE PROJECTS.
SO ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ON THAT KIND OF TIMELINE, UH, THAT'S KIND OF TIED TO SOME OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT Y'ALL PROVED AT THE LAST COURT?
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UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE HERE IS ACTUALLY, UH, A CONSIDERATION FOR TWO ITEMS. SO ONE IS THE, UH, GEOTECH BORINGS FOR, UM, THE OLD WEATHERFORD ROAD.UH, THE FEE FOR THE GEOTECH BORINGS IS 11,820.
AND SO WE'D GET THE GEOTECH BORINGS AND, AND THAT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE IN THAT, SINCE WE'RE GONNA ADVERTISE NEXT WEEK OR THINKING, WE IMMEDIATELY GET THOSE BORINGS AND THEN, UH, ADD THAT AS A ADDENDUM INTO THAT, UH, BID.
UH, THE SECOND ITEM I HAD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS WE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, Y'ALL APPROVED THE BANKHEAD SURVEY, UH, FROM RANCH HOUSE TO 1187.
WHAT I DIDN'T HAVE AT THE TIME WAS THE SURVEY FOR THE BRIDGE PIECE.
UH, SO THE SURVEY FOR THE BRIDGE, IT'S SURVEY BOUNDARY AND SUE IS 29,820.
SO THAT KIND OF COMPLETES, UH, ALL THE SURVEY FOR BANKHEAD.
IT JUST, AT THE TIME, I HAD A MIX UP IN MY COMMUNICATION WITH A SURVEYOR AND I DIDN'T HAVE THAT PART OF THE, THE BIGGER SURVEY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND, AND, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL.
SO THE, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE BRIDGE IN SUE, IS THAT THE TOTAL FOR ALL OF BANKHEAD NOW OR IS THAT THE ADDITIONAL YES, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL FOR ALL OF BANKHEAD.
SO PREVIOUSLY I JUST HAD THAT PRIMARY SURVEY.
AND SO THEY BASICALLY GAVE ME A PROPOSAL FOR THE BRIDGE PORTION.
IT, IT WOULD JUST BE THE BRIDGE.
SO THE PART WHEEL OF PARKS DOING, THEY WOULD DO A SEPARATE SURVEY FOR YEAH.
AND, AND YOU SAID THAT THE OLD, THE, THE GEOTECH FOR OLD WEATHERFORD ROAD THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED FROM YEAH.
SO COG COG HAS FUNDED THAT BIGGER JOB AND I CONTACTED THEM TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL GET HIGH BIDS ON THE EARTH WORK.
AND SO I BASICALLY COMMUNICATED THEM THAT I WAS GONNA BRING THIS FORWARD FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE THINKING THERE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE FOR ACCEPT FOR APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE SECOND.
UH, WHAT'S THE MOTION? THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS MR. BOSCO PUT FORTH FOR AUTHORIZING A GEOTECH STUDY FOR OLD WEATHERFORD ROAD PROJECT.
AND YOU HAVE THE SECOND PART OKAY.
FOR THE SURVEYING CORRECT? ON BA EAST BANKHEAD IN THE BRIDGE.
SO THE COST THERE, THE, THE BANK I'LL, OKAY.
UH, THE BANKHEAD BRIDGE IS 29,820, AND THE OLD WEATHERFORD GEOTECH IS 11,820.
MOTION, UH, IN A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
CHRIS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT? UM, NO.
I, I WANT TO JUST, JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY JUST, UM, TALK ABOUT, AS WE'RE PROGRESSING VERY RAPIDLY WITH THIS, UH, WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY ACTUALLY, UM, TO MOVE QUICKLY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND, AND GETTING THESE PRIORITIZED.
AND, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HOLT HAS ALREADY SET IN MOTION AS WE WERE DISCUSSING PRIOR TO THAT, AS TO HAVING MEETINGS AND, AND TO TALK ABOUT IS WE'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE, THESE PROJECTS AND GETTING THEM DONE, IS TO ALSO START THE PROCESS OF WHAT'S NEXT AND, AND MOVING BEYOND THAT.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL IN A SIMULTANEOUS, AS WE COMPLETE THIS BOND, WE'RE ALREADY MOVING BEYOND.
AND, AND HAVING THAT, YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO COMMENT ON THAT 'CAUSE IT DOES FIT UNDER THIS AGENDA.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IN THE BOND Y'ALL HAD A THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE AND, UM, AND SO THE, THE THINKING THERE IS YEAH, LOOKING MORE LONG RANGE MORE, OF COURSE THERE IS SAFETY PROJECTS AND THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS WITH THE COORDINATION WITH COG AND, AND THE FORT WORTH DISTRICT IS WITH THEIR LONGER RANGE PLANNING TO KIND OF MATCH THOSE UP.
THAT'S BETTER, BETTER SAID THAN I DID.
UM, SO ANYTHING ELSE YOU GOT? UH, NOPE.
AND I'LL, I'LL EMAIL YOU GUYS THIS, SO Y'ALL OKAY.
I HATE TO BRING IT UP AGAIN, BUT THE, UH, THE RAILROAD CROSSING AT MILLSAP.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO NOW FROM THIS TO EXPEDITE THAT FROM THE 2016 BOND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE? YES.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MEAN YOU HAVE THE MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
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ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS.SO, UH, WE'RE DONE WITH ALL THE COORDINATION WITH TECH STOCK.
THE KEY IS GETTING THE RAILROAD PERMIT.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT IS, UH, I WAS DRAFT A LETTER THAT WOULD COME FROM THE COUNTY KIND OF EMPHASIZING THE, UM, THE URGENCY OF THAT PERMIT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE LAST ELEMENT.
UM, THERE IS GETTING THAT, UH, RAILROAD PERMIT.
AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF SETTING THAT UP TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR CHRIS? THANK YOU, CHRIS.
[6.D. Discuss/Take action on Mutual Aid for Johnson County Medical Examiner Office. (Traci Bennett / Judge Deen)]
TO ITEM D.UH, WE'LL, WE'LL TABLE THAT, UH, FOR THE NEXT, UH, SESSION.
[6.E. Discuss/Take action regarding Resolution #24-06 Cybersecurity Grant. (James Caywood / Judge Deen)]
IT TAKES US TO ITEM E SIX, DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION 24 DASH OH SIX CYBERSECURITY GRANT.UM, MR. KAYWOOD, THIS IS FOR THE, UH, CYBERSECURITY GRANT WE'RE APPLYING FOR.
WE NEED A RESOLUTION SET UP FOR THE JUDGE TO SIGN, UH, SO WE CAN APPLY FOR IT.
UH, BRIANNA ALSO WANTED ME MENTION WHATEVER FUNDS WE WERE AWARDED.
THERE IS A 10% MATCHING FROM THE COURT PART OF OUR BUDGET.
WHO'S THE MONEY COME FROM? UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
DON'T YOU MOVE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A YEAR OR TWO.
WE CAN GO AFTER IT EVERY YEAR.
UH, IT, PART OF THE BUDGET WHEN I COME BACK SAID WE WERE AWARDED THIS AND IT'D BE 10%, UH, OF WHATEVER THE AWARD IS.
PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? PASS FIVE.
I THINK IT WAS PASSING AROUND EARLIER.
JUST NEED YOU TO SIGN IT AND WE CAN EARLIER WAS THE CPS ONE, THE ONE, THE ONE WE HAD WAS THE CPS RESOLUTION.
IT WAS, IT WAS, WE'LL HAVE ONE COUNTY SOUNDS LIKE, BUT OKAY.
HE'S GONNA GO PRINT THAT AGAIN.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
[6.F. Discuss/Take action on amending the Subdivision Regulations for RV Parks to include mobile homes, tiny homes, and conex boxes. (Commissioner Holt)]
ITEM F DISCUSSION.TAKE ACTION ON AMENDING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR RV PARKS TO INCLUDE MOBILE HOMES, TINY HOMES AND CONEX BOXES.
SO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION COMMITTEE MET OH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND THIS WAS THE ONLY ITEM THAT CAME OUT OF IT THAT WE WANTED TO SEND TO COURT IMMEDIATELY, WAS IN OUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE'RE NOT REALLY TOUCHING ON TINY HOMES, CONEX BOX DEVELOPMENTS, ET CETERA.
THOSE ARE STARTING TO OCCUR MORE AND MORE.
I THINK MR. HUGHES AND MR. BRONNER BOTH PROBABLY HAVE SOME COMMENTARY AS TO WHY THIS CHANGE IS NECESSARY.
UM, I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY, UH, A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.
SOME OTHER FOLKS, UH, ABOUT, UH, CONEX BOX IS WHAT WE NOW REFER TO AS ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.
UM, BUT ALSO TINY HOMES AND MOBILE HOMES THAT THEY BE BROUGHT UNDER THE SAME SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS CURRENTLY THAT, THAT HANDLE RV PARKS AS WELL.
AND THIS WOULD, UH, THIS WOULD FOCUS ON TWO OR MORE, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW, THE WAY WE PUT IT TO THE, TO THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE.
TWO OR MORE, UH, TINY HOMES, ALTERNATIVE HOMES OR MOBILE HOMES THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON A PROPERTY THAT WERE NOT CONNECTED TO THE LANDOWNER BY BLOOD.
SO IF, IF AN INDIVIDUAL WANTED TO PUT A TINY HOME OR AN ALTERNATIVE HOME ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM, FOR RELATIVES, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO TWO OF THEM TO BE PUT ON THAT PROPERTY ANY MORE THAN THAT, THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THIS, THESE SUBDIVISION RULES THAT THE COURT PASSED COMMISSIONER TWO MONTHS AGO, I BELIEVE? YES, SIR.
AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO INCLUDE, UH, MOBILE HOMES, TINY HOMES AND ALTERNATIVE HOMES.
AND THE, THE ALTERNATIVE HOMES DOES INCLUDE, UM, THE CONVERSION OF CONEX BOXES TYPE HOUSING.
UM, AND WITH THE, THE CONEX, UH, WITH THE ALTERNATIVE HOMES, UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, WHENEVER THEY MEET NEXT
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TO ESTABLISH A MINIMUM, UM, SAFETY, UH, EXITS.BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ALTERNATIVE HOMES JUST HAVE A DOOR.
THEY DO NOT HAVE WINDOWS, OR THEY HAVE VERY SMALL WINDOWS.
WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A WINDOW PUT IN THERE SUFFICIENTLY TO ALLOW FOR EGRESS.
UH, IF THERE WERE FIRE OR OTHER EMERGENCY IN THOSE ALTERNATIVE HOMES, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THESE BOXES AND THESE TINY HOMES, THEY CAN BE HOOKED TO AN INDIVIDUAL SEPTIC SYSTEM OR THEY HAVE TO BE ON THEIR OWN SEPTIC SYSTEM? WELL, CURRENTLY YOU COULD HAVE A CLUSTER SYSTEM OR AN INDIVIDUAL.
SO FROM MY MY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE AN ISSUE UP ON 1 9 9, 1 PROPERTY OWNER HAS 15 MOBILE HOMES.
SO WE HAVE 15 HOUSES WITH A FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEM, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM TO MAKE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT IN THE FUTURE IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE THEY PILE 'EM IN, ONCE THIS FAILS, YOU KNOW, SO HERE, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE, WE GOTTA TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THIS.
BUT THE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY, BUT IF WE ADD THEM INTO THE ORDINANCE, NOW IT HAS TO GO TO TCEQ FOR AN ENGINEER SEPTIC SYSTEM, DRAWING AND PLANS, AND THEN COME BACK.
SO THAT'LL PREVENT A LOT OF THE FAILURE ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SIDE.
WHAT, WHAT IF THE PROPERTY'S NOT BEING PLOTTED? OKAY.
I MEAN, THESE ARE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS BASED ON SOMEBODY CREATING A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS THOSE OR PARK.
SO WHAT IF, WHAT IF IT'S NOT BEING FLOODED? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT ONE.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE, WE PUT IN, IF, IF, IF AN INDIVIDUAL OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WANTED TO PUT SOME HOUSING THERE FOR RELATIVES, THEY COULD DO THAT.
BUT IT WOULD, BUT I CURRENTLY, IF SOMEONE HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN, THEY'RE PUTTING A RENTAL PROPERTY ON IT, IT'S NOT PLAID COUNSELOR, YOU GOT A ANSWER FOR THAT.
OR, WELL, AND, AND SOMETIMES THESE RV PARKS ARE NOT PLAID EITHER.
SO IT, IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE PERMITTING FROM THE OSSF AS FAR AS PERMITTING.
SO, WELL, SHOULDN'T THIS BE IN ADDITION TO THE PERMITTING REGULATIONS RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THEN IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA FALL UNDER PERMITTING.
SO, BUT IF THEY DON'T PLANT IT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL 'EM THEY CAN'T DO IT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE FALL UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE PLATTING, I MEAN, OF THE, UH, PERMITTING DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN UNDER SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND IT, IT ALREADY DOES FALL UNDER THEM CURRENTLY.
I MEAN, AS IT SETS TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION AND IT FALLS UNDER, WELL, IF THEY DON'T COME TO US FOR A PLAT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT.
BECAUSE IT FALLS UNDER PERMITTING RATHER THAN PLATING.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE FOR US TO TELL 'EM YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR YOUR PLAT.
WE'RE GONNA BE SITTING HERE WITH PERMITTING TELLING 'EM THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT.
WHAT, WHAT I NEED TO LOOK AT IS, UH, RENTAL COMMUNITIES AND IT, IT MAY FALL UNDER THAT SUBDIVISION, THAT PORTION OF THE SUBDIVISION ADOPT THAT.
SO I'LL SPECIFICALLY LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT CURRENTLY, IF IT'S RENTALS, THEY DON'T COME BEFORE THE COURT FOR A PLAT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT DIVIDING IT.
THEY'RE NOT SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE, WE'RE AMENDING THE RV INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT WE'RE AMENDING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLATING.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOTHING.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT 10 ACRES, YOU CAN PUT AS MANY, MANY HOMES AS YOU WANT TO ON IT, AS LONG AS YOU MEET SETBACKS.
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS I'M ASKING HOW OR HOW OR HOW IS THE COURT GOING TO BE AWARE OF SOMEONE THAT'S DOING THAT OTHER THAN THROUGH PERMITTING? THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY.
THAT, THAT WHEN, WHEN THEY COME TO MY OFFICE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTY QUOTE CORRECT.
SO IN THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, UH, THEY INITIALLY CAME IN PROBABLY AND GOT A PERMIT FOR ONE MOBILE HOME AND NOW THEY HAVE 15.
WOULD THAT BE THE SITUATION? THE, THE, THE PARTICULAR SITUATION, THEY ACTUALLY COME IN AND GOT A PERMIT FOR A CLUSTER SYSTEM FOR THAT MANY HOMES.
'CAUSE AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS NOTHING TO SAY WE COULD NOT DENIED.
SO, AND EVEN TODAY, IF YOU'VE GOT 10 ACRES AND YOU COME IN WITH A PLAN FOR 15, AS LONG AS YOU MEET SETBACKS, THERE'S NOTHING FOR ME TO SAY.
RUSTY, WHAT TRIGGERS TCQ REVIEWING THE DESIGN.
SO WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY CLUSTER SYSTEM, THAT HAS TO BE ENGINEERED, CORRECT? YES.
AND SO, UH, NOW IT DIDN'T TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
AND THAT ONE, THAT ONE WAS NOT, NOT DESIGNED.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
AND WILL ALSO WOULD TRIGGER A TCQ DESIGN
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IF WE AMEND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE AMEND ON THIS.SO, SO AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS CURRENTLY THE WAY WE WE'RE SET AND THE WAY THE LAW READS, THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT DESIGN THROUGH TCQ DEPENDING ON IF IT'S CONSIDERED A CLUSTER OR A MULTIFAMILY SYSTEM.
SO IF THEY COME IN, THEY WANNA FIT 10 MOBILE HOMES, BUT THEY TOO 10 INDIVIDUAL SEPTICS, THEN IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A-T-C-E-Q DESIGN.
BUT IF THEY DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT PARKS PROPERLY AND THAT IT'S DESIGNED PROPERLY.
SO THERE'S SAFEGUARDS EITHER WAY.
IS THAT CORRECT OR, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE DOING A CLUSTER, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S ENGINEERED IN GO CTCQ? YES.
IF THEY'RE DOING 10 INDIVIDUALS, IT'S GOING TO USE DESIGN.
IF THEY DO 10 INDIVIDUALS, UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IF THERE'S A FAILURE, THERE'S JUST NO ROOM FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION.
SO, 'CAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHY WE HAVE THE ACRE AND THE TWO ACRE RULE.
IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL'S HOME HAS A FAILURE, WE CAN COME IN, WE CAN TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION TO GET IT GOING.
BUT ONCE THEY PILE 'EM IN AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ROOM.
THAT'S FROM A WATER WASTEWATER.
NOW PUBLIC SAFETY'S LOOKING AT OTHER ISSUES, BUT THAT'S FROM A WATER AND WASTEWATER ISSUE.
ARE, ARE YOU STILL REQUIRING THAT THEY HAVE ONE ACRE, EVEN IF THEY'RE PILED IN LIKE THAT? THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT.
IT SAYS ONE ACRE TO PLA THAT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY.
SO THEY CAN HAVE 10 ON ONE ACRE.
YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN SQUEEZE THEM IN.
HOW DO WE ALLEVIATE THAT? THAT THAT IS A PROBLEM IF WE HAVE 10 ON ONE ACRE, THAT DOES THE PROBLEM.
MY, I THINK IT'S IS WE'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO ALLEVIATE THAT PER, THAT'S A STATE LAW ISSUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR HANDS ARE TIED REALLY STATE LAW FROM A PROPERTY RIGHTS STANDPOINT, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE, THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, THE, THE ONE UP THERE, WE, WE'VE ALL AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER HAD THAT SITUATION IN OUR PRECINCT.
'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT SITUATION.
AND WE, WE NEED TO, AND IT IS BASICALLY GONNA BE THROUGH PERMITTING.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PREVENT HAVING 10 ON ONE ACRE.
I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A TRUE ISSUE.
SO WE NEED TO, WELL WORK ON IT.
I THINK WE ALREADY, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
WE'VE ALL HAD THAT PROBLEM AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER WHERE SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, I'M GONNA PUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE MOBILE HOMES ON AN ACRE.
AND THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, BUT THESE TINY HOMES ARE YEAH.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE RV.
'CAUSE IT NOW, IT BECOMES NOT JUST RV, IT BECOMES PRETTY MUCH A RENTAL.
SO ONCE YOU GET THAT THIRD RENTAL DOMICILE, THEN YOU'RE OBLIGATED, YOU KNOW, TO THE RV INFRASTRUCTURE.
JUST TO, JUST TO LEVEL SET, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE ADOPTED RV PARK REGULATIONS HERE RECENTLY.
THAT WAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE.
WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE REGULATIONS AND EXPAND THEM TO INCLUDE CONEX TINY HOME AND MOBILE HOMES.
NOW, TINY HOMES, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I BELIEVE, AREN'T THEY 399 SQUARE FEET AND SMALLER AND THEY'RE TAGGED AS AN RV, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TAGGED AS AN RV, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE WELL, THEY'RE NOT TAGGED.
THEY DON'T GET PROPERTY TAX BILLS FROM THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE THEY'RE REGISTERED AS AN RV.
BUT A MOBILE HOME, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
SO NOW WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF COMMINGLING AN RV AND A MOBILE HOME HERE, WHICH ARE TWO DIFFERENT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HANDLED AND TAXED DIFFERENTLY.
HAD ANOTHER, I HAD ANOTHER RELATED QUESTION TOO.
YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT CONEX AS HAVING ONE ENTRY AND EXIT.
WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT A SMALL RV THAT HAS ONLY ONE ENTRANCE? VERY SIMILAR.
AND, AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THAT THERE, THEY HAVE A MINIMUM WINDOW SIZE FOR WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE EGRESS.
SO, UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S 20 A 24 BY 24 WINDOW IN ADDITION TO A DOORWAY.
UM, SO THAT SOMEONE, IF THE DOORWAY WAS BLOCKED IN AN RV, THEY COULD STILL GET OUT THE WINDOW.
UH, AN AVERAGE HUMAN COULD STILL GET OUT THE WINDOW IN THE EVENT THEY NEEDED TO EVACUATE.
AND, AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE WRITTEN INTO THE ALTERNATIVE.
AND BY ALTERNATIVE WE CALL 'EM THOSE CONEXES.
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WE, WE DID IN FACT HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHO WERE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.AND THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS, UH, IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.
AND, AND WE NEEDED TO HAVE ANOTHER EGRESS OUT OF ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.
AND, AND, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE 24 BY 24, BUT WE'RE GONNA VERIFY THAT.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE, EXCUSE ME, THEY ARE COMING.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING WE'RE SEEING IS, IS A MIX OF, UM, TINY HOMES AND ALTERNATIVE HOMES IN THE SAME, IN THE SAME, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A KIND OF EITHER OR.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF, UM, TINY HOMES, RVS, AND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.
MY QUESTION IS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN REGULATE THAT THROUGH SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T COME TO US FOR A PLAT.
AND, AND I, I WAS THINKING THAT THE PERMITTING ON THE SEPTICS IS BASED ON DISCHARGE AS WELL.
I MEAN, THAT'S NORMALLY WHATEVER THE QUANTITY IS.
'CAUSE EVEN AT AN RV PARK, UH, THOSE RVS HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE THAT'S REGULATED INTO THAT SPECIFIC TANK, ISN'T IT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
AND SO THE SAME THING WOULD APPLY TO THESE BASED ON THE DISCHARGE, BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IS THAT HOW THEY DETERMINE THAT? YES.
SO HOW, HOW DO WE GET 10 THEN? HOW ARE WE GETTING 10 ON ONE ONE ACRE? WELL, THAT, I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY LITERALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TIM ON ONE ACRES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? UH, BUT I KNOW IN PRECINCT ONE THERE'S 15 AND IT'S ON ABOUT EIGHT ACRES.
SO THE PROBLEM IS, I MEAN, WITH, BUT ONCE THEY, ONCE THEY'RE THERE, ONCE YOU HAVE A FAILURE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST THERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO RECTIFY.
THERE, THERE IS SOME VERBIAGE IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT REGULATE, UM, WIDTH, UM, AND, AND SOME LOT SIZES, UH, FOR THE RV, FOR THE RV PARKS.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IN ALTERNATIVE MOBILE AND, AND TINY HOMES.
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME REGULATIONS THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY GOVERN THE NUMBER, UM, BECAUSE OF THE FRONTAGE OR THE, UH, THE WIDTH OF, OF THAT AND THE NUMBER OF, UM, THE OVERALL NUMBER.
I, I THINK THERE'S A JOHN, I, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NUMBER PER ACRE, BUT I THINK THERE'S, WITH THE, THE, THE LOT FOR THAT RV THERE IS, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING BACK TO THAT DISCHARGE.
SO THE, THE ONE THAT HAD, UH, 15 ON EIGHT ACRES STATE MINIMUM IS HALF ACRE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST HERE IN PARKER COUNTY HAVE A MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENT OF MM-HMM.
SO, UM, I'M SUPPOSING THAT DISCHARGE CALCULATION WAS DONE BY AN ENGINEER.
SO WERE THEY LEACH FIELDS? TRADITIONAL FIELDS? AEROBIC? THEY, IT'S A DRIP FIELD.
SO CAN THEY CONVERT 'EM TO AN AEROBIC TO CORRECT THAT? THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO SPRAY BECAUSE I MEAN, WELL, YOU'RE AT TWO 40 TIMES 15, SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SIZE OR SPRAY AREA ACCORDINGLY.
SO, UH, IN DRIP FIELDS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE LEGAL IN TEXAS, THEY GOT A LIFESPAN OF ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY CAN SUBMIT IT, GET IT APPROVED AND, AND WHAT, AND HONESTLY, WHAT HAPPENS, THEY, THEY SUBMIT IT, GET IT APPROVED, BUILD IT, AND THEN SELL IT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE CITIZENS ARE SITTING HERE HOLDING A BAG ON IT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE ONE THAT YOU SAID HAD EIGHT OR WHATEVER MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT TO SAY YOU CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, MAKE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF OUR THEY'RE IN VIOLATION.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY SEWAGE OUT ON THE GROUND.
SO WHAT'S YOUR AUTHORITY TO, TO REGULATE THAT THEN, ON THAT? WHAT'S THE SITUATION? I MEAN, YOU CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
DO YOU CALL TCEQ? UH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRECTING THAT SITUATION.
AND THERE'S NO WAY TO CORRECT THAT SITUATION, THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO STOP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO WE'LL GO OUT AND WE WILL, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC VIOLATION.
LIKE RIGHT HERE, YOU'RE SURFACING, WE'LL GIVE 'EM 30 DAYS.
SO, AND THEY, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL FIX THAT ONE SPOT AND THEN A MONTH LATER WE COME.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY WILL COMPLY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT JUST VERY MINIMALLY, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, TO REGULATE? CAN WE MAKE 'EM
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TAKE SOME OF THEM HOUSES OUT THEM TINY HOMES OUT, OR THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CAN OF WORMS. I MEAN, 'CAUSE NOW, WELL, AS LONG AS THE SYSTEM'S WORKING PROPERLY, SO WHAT RUSTY'S SAYING IS, WELL, THE ONE THAT'S NOT WORKING PROPERLY IS, WELL IF, IF IT'S NOT WORKING PROPERLY, IT'S A CRIME.THEY CAN BE ARRESTED FOR THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'LL THEY'LL FIX THIS SPOT.
IT IS THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, SO IT'S JUST LIKE ANYBODY WITH A TRADITIONAL LEAK SYSTEM AT HOME, IT, IT FAILS.
YOU STILL GET TO UTILIZE YOUR HOUSE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE SYSTEM IN SO IT OPERATES PROPERLY FOR YEAH.
FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY PURPOSES.
BUT UNLIKE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A HOME IN TWO ACRES, THEY GO ADD TO THE LEACH FIELD OR THEY CAN OPT FOR AN AEROBIC SYSTEM.
THEY CAN DO A, DO AN ACTUAL REPAIR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? A LOT OF THESE, THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S PHYSICALLY NO ROOM TO DO IT.
THE ARGUMENT I THINK, FOR ADDING THIS TO SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IS, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE COMPLETELY CORRECT THAT IF THEY DON'T COME TO US FOR PLATTING BYPASSES THIS, THIS, BUT WE HAVE HAD SOME SITUATIONS, AT LEAST IN PRECINCT TWO, WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION, LAND IS SOLD AND SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PUT SOME OF THESE ON THERE.
SO I DO THINK THERE'S A PLACE FOR THIS IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AS WELL, INCLUDING WHEN, OR FOR THAT TIME WHEN IT'S PLATTED OR IT'S APPLICABLE TO AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION.
I THINK THE ONES THAT I'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH WERE THE ONES THAT WEREN'T EVER PLATTED.
THERE WAS NO REASON TO PLA IT.
AND, AND, AND, UH, I WANT TO CATCH IT AHEAD OF TIME IF WE COULD.
THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA CATCH THAT, THAT I SEE IS THROUGH PERMITTING.
BUT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A A, A RIGHT.
THE MECHANICS OF HOW IT WOULD WORK.
'CAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT COMING TO US FOR A PLAT, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT THEY HAVE TO COME AND GET A A, A PERMIT FOR A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
THEN YEAH, THEN WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THE SITUATION THAT I'VE HAD BEFORE IS THAT THEY WOULD MOVE ALL THE MOBILE HOMES IN, UH, YOU KNOW, ON AN ACRE OR TWO OR WHATEVER, AND THEN COME BACK AND SAY, WE NEED A SEPTIC PERMIT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT ZAPPED, RIGHT? THERE.
NOW, IF THEY ALREADY HAD AN EXISTING SYSTEM THERE AND THEY JUST ADDED THOSE TO IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THERE'S A PROBLEM.
SO THERE'S NOT A WAY OF CATCHING IT, IS WHAT I'M SAYING IN THE, IN THE SETUP THAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, THESE SITUATIONS COME ABOUT WITHOUT US KNOWING ABOUT IT UNTIL THERE'S A PROBLEM.
AND THEN THE NEIGHBOR CALLS AND SAYS, THERE'S, THERE'S SEWAGE RUNNING OUT ON THE GROUND HERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW ABOUT THOSE.
SO SOMETIMES, I MEAN, AND I, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE, WE HAVE DENIED OVER 10 RV PARKS.
'CAUSE THEY JUST DID, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE REGULATIONS.
AND WE'VE, I'VE ACTUALLY SENT OUT LETTERS AND WE'VE ACTUALLY DENIED PERMITTING.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE CATCHING 'EM.
SO, UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF THEY GOT AN EXISTING SYSTEM, THEY START MOVING IN HOMES, THAT'S A VIOLATION.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET OUT.
THE, THE, HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT ONCE THEY'RE THERE, ONCE THEY'RE OCCUPIED AND ONCE THERE'S A PROBLEM.
UH, IF, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SEPTIC SYSTEM, THEN, THEN WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S A VIOLATION.
UH, BUT I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MECHANISM WHERE WE COULD CATCH THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA BE IF WE ADD THIS LANGUAGE TO OUR SUBDIVISION RULES, AND THEN MR. BRONER REVISES THE PERMITTING RULES TO SAY THAT IF YOU'RE DOING ANY OF THESE ALTERNATIVE HOMES OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, YOU MUST, YOU CAN REFERENCE BACK TO THOSE AND SAY, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH THIS.
SO THAT WAY IT'S IN WRITING AHEAD OF TIME.
AND WHAT IF THEY DON'T? WELL, AT THAT POINT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR VIOLATION PROCESS.
UH, GENERALLY MY DEPARTMENT, WE GIVE 30 DAYS TO BASE THE SITUATION.
IF YOU DON'T, WE TURN IT OVER TO ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICE OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTABLE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT PRECINCT IT IS.
AND WE WORK WITH THEM TO DO ENFORCEMENT.
I GUESS I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY THAT TRIED TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
WELL, I'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH, OR, OR THE FOLKS THAT, LIKE I SAID, ALREADY HAD AN EXISTING SYSTEM THERE AND THEN MOVED IN THREE OR FOUR ADDITIONAL, UH, HOMES THERE WITHOUT ASKING ANYBODY FOR A PERMIT OR FOR, FOR A, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR A PLA MM-HMM.
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF PROBLEMS THAT I'VE HAD.
IT'S NOT WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S TRYING TO DO THINGS.
AND THAT, AND THAT, THAT'S HARD TO CATCH.
BUT WHEN WE DO CATCH 'EM, WE CAN'T, WE CAN GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED FOR 300 GALLONS PER DAY.
CURRENTLY YOU HAVE 540 GALLONS PER DAY WORTH OF STRUCTURES HERE.
YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, A GET A PERMIT, REDO THE SYSTEM OR START MOVING 'EM OFF.
I'M NOT ASKING A WHILE AGO, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE 'EM ALL? WELL, IF, IF IT'S NOT
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OPERATING PROPERLY, THEN IT'S SURFACING, IT'S A CRIMINAL VIOLATION AND THEY CAN BE ARRESTED FOR THAT.SO EVERY DAY IS A NEW VIOLATION.
IT'S NOT JUST A, A SINGLE VIOLATION EVERY DAY THAT IT'S SURFACING, IT'S A NEW VIOLATION.
SO THEY CAN BE CHARGED ADDITIONALLY EVERY DAY THAT IT'S OPERATING.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CEASE OPERATING IT AT THAT POINT.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN THEY STILL BE IN THERE AND NOT UTILIZE, OR YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSEHOLD FULL OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE OFF.
THAT'S WHY THEY, WE, WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS.
I, MY DEPARTMENT, WE CAN'T TELL THEM TO MOVE IT OFF.
BUT WHY? WE'LL, WE CAN TELL THE LANDLORD YOU'RE NOT GONNA OCCUPY THE DOMICILE.
WE CAN TELL HIM THAT HE'S GONNA BE FINED SO MUCH PER DAY.
IF HE, BECAUSE IT'S IN VIOLATION.
BUT AS FAR AS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOVING ANYTHING.
I I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
NOW WE CAN TELL HIM THAT THE DOMICILE CANNOT BE OCCUPIED.
AND SO WE'RE IT'S $500 A DAY OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, OR DIS DISCONNECTED.
IS THERE NOT ANOTHER CORRELATION HERE WITH THE, WITH WHERE THE WATER'S COMING FROM, THIS THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO THE DOMICILE AND THE, WITH THE SEPTIC? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD MINIMUMS. IF YOU HAVE A WELL AND SEPTIC FOR THE SAME, FOR THE SAME UNIT.
OR ONCE IT GOES ABOVE THAT, ONCE YOU GO ABOVE THAT.
IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.
YOU GOT A REPORT AND ALL THAT.
UH, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS JUDGE SHANNON NAVE.
UM, JUDGE DEANOL SAYS HE DOESN'T, WHEN HE SEES ME, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HAT I'M WEARING.
UH, TODAY I'M WEARING THE HAT OF BARRETT, HAMPTON AND BROWN, BUT I'M ALSO WITH THE UPPER TRINITY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT BOARD.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA BRING UP IN THIS CONVERSATION WAS ONCE THEY HIT OVER 14 CONNECTIONS, THEY BECOME A PUB.
THEY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM.
UH, SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE, IT'S NOT ONLY 14 ABOVE 14 CONNECTIONS, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOVE 23 PEOPLE.
SO IF THESE THINGS ARE SERVING THAT MANY PEOPLE, IT'S BECOME A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM WITH THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT UPPER TRINITY CAN HELP STEP IN ON THE WATER SIDE BEFORE IT GETS TO THE WAYSIDE AND HELP THE COUNTY AND WORK WITH THEM.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IF THEY'RE PUMPING OVER OR HAVE A PUMP RATE OVER 17.36 GALLONS PER MINUTE, IT THEN IT BECOMES A COMMERCIAL.
WELL, AND UPPER TRINITY COME IN AND HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED WELL, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF PAPERWORK.
AND WE HAVE TEETH ON THE UPPER TRINITY SIDE TO HELP ENFORCE THOSE RULES.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF, UH, THEY'RE SELLING THE WATER, IT BECOMES COMMERCIAL.
SO EVEN IF IT'S UNDER 17.36, THEY'RE SELLING WATER TO MULTIPLE HOMES.
AND AT THOSE POINTS, UPPER TRINITY AND PARKER COUNTY CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE, OF THE COUNTY, MAKING SURE THAT THESE REGULATIONS ARE, ARE FOLLOWED.
BUT THERE IS RULES ON WELL SPACING AND THERE'S JUST A WHOLE BUNCH ON THE WATER SIDE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE HOUSES AND BEFORE YOU GET TO WASTEWATER, THE STATE AND UPPER TRINITY CAN HELP WITH GOOD INFORMATION.
SHANNON AND RUS, WHERE'S THAT WATER COMING FROM ON THE ONES THAT ARE, THEY HAVE 15 ON THE EIGHT ACRES.
THAT'S ONLY A WALNUT CREEK SIGNS OFF ON IT THEN, YOU KNOW.
SO TO KIND OF BRING ALL THIS INTO FOCUS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES AND MOVING THINGS HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDENS MADE A COMMENT THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME IS, IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, IF IT DOESN'T GET FLAGGED THROUGH THE PLATING OR PERMITTING, HOW DO WE KNOW ABOUT IT? IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY THEN WE CAN, I DON'T WANNA NOT TAKE ACTION SO MUCH AS I WANT TO PLAN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THE LOOPHOLES HERE.
ONE, IDENTIFYING WHERE THESE ISSUES ARE AND HOW THAT CAN BE DONE, IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD, THAT WHAT, UH, SHANNON NAVE HAS, UH, WITH THE UPPER TRINITY AND COORDINATE THIS WITH, UH, OUR, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND THEN COME BACK AND BRING SOMETHING BACK HERE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO HERE? BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES OF THIS THING TO MAKE SURE WE, WE CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
WELL, AND I THINK THIS DOES HELP THIS, LIKE I SAID, IT BRINGS THE TINY HOMES AND MUL HOMES INTO THE RV INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COME IN AND, AND YOU GOT A LETTER FROM WALNUT CREEK, THEY SIGNED OFF ON YOU.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING IN MY OFFICE THAT CAN DENY IT.
COUNSELOR, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO HERE ON THIS ONE? AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE SEVERAL FIXES.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A BAD SUGGESTION, BUT IS IT THE END OF THE SUGGESTIONS? NO, I THINK THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT AS,
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AS FAR AS TAX OFFICE ALSO PICKS UP ON SOME OF THESE AS WELL.I JUST THINK THERE'S JUST MORE WORK HERE.
WE, WE CAN, SO THERE ARE THE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION.
SO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DO APPLY.
SOMEONE BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THAT SUBDIVISION BY AMENDING THIS LANGUAGE.
SUPPOSING THERE'S NOT DEEDS AND RESTRICTIONS ALREADY IN THE SUBDIVISION BY AMENDING OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE PREVENT THEM FROM STACKING HOWEVER MANY.
THAT'S WHY I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ADDED HERE AT A MINIMUM.
IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T NEED TO STOP THERE.
BUT IF WE ADD THEM HERE, THEN MR. BRONER AND HIS PERMITTING RATES CAN CITE BACK TO AS WELL.
AND PLATING ONLY APPLIES TO 10 ACRES OR LESS.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE THE ACTION THAT WE CAN DO TODAY AND THEN, THEN CONTINUE TO, UH, EXPLORE THIS FURTHER WITH, UH, OUR, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THE UPPER TRINITY OBVIOUSLY CAN BE IN ASSISTANCE HERE.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER, I'LL PUT THIS ON YOU.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE AMEND OUR RV PARK REGULATIONS TO INCLUDE MOBILE HOMES, TINY HOMES, AND CONEX BOXES.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YEP.
UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE'VE GOT A DENSITY ISSUE HERE.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YES.
I WAS AT THE VG YOUNG COMMISSIONER AND, UH, JUDGE'S TRAINING WEEK BEFORE LAST.
I WAS SPEAKING TO, I BELIEVE IT WAS A JUDGE OF, UH, HAYES COUNTY.
AND THEY, THEY CAME UP, HE TOLD ME, THEY CAME UP WITH A VERY CREATIVE, WHERE THEY HAD A MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THE POWER HOOKUP FOR EACH UNIT.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE SPACING.
AND IF I THINK IF YOU HAD THE SPACING, THEN A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES OR WILL THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS BY IMPLEMENTING THAT.
I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME OTHER ACTIONS HERE THAT CAN BE TAKEN THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PRETTY, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS JUST ADAPT ADOPTING THIS RIGHT NOW.
OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT MORE WELLS BEING POKED AND I DON'T WANT OVERWORKED SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT FROM THEM? YEAH, I, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO 'EM.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, SEAN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT, MAYBE, UH, ADDING ALTERNATIVE HOUSING INSTEAD OF THE USE OF CONEX BOXES BECAUSE, UM, SOMEONE MAY SAY, WELL, THIS ISN'T A CONEX, THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE CONEX IS A, UH, IS A BRAND NAME.
UM, AND I SAID, AND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE, ONE OF THESE THAT'S, THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT? IS THIS WE HAVE A COMPANY OR A A, A GROUP OF PEOPLE MAKING THESE BOXES.
YES, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING THEM ON ANY PROPERTY YET, BUT WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED THEY'RE GOING TO MM-HMM.
BUT, 'CAUSE THERE'S THE SAME PEOPLE THAT'S TRYING TO DO THIS OTHER DEAL OUT HERE ON 51, SAME DEVELOPER.
SO IS IT, IS IT ACTUALLY A, A SUBDIVISION THEN A PLA SUBDIVISION? YES, THEY'RE BUILDING 'EM, BUT THEY, THEY SAY THEY'RE FOR SALE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE THE PROPERTY TO GO TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, FOR HUNTING.
OR YOU CAN COME BY IT AND TAKE IT TO YOUR PROPERTY.
OTHERWISE, I WILL TELL YOU IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS, ONCE, ONCE WE GIVE AN A TC AN AUTHORIZATION TO CONSTRUCT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, BUT MR. BRONER DOESN'T NEED TO APPROVE IT, BUT, BUT IT, IT'S A DONE DEAL.
ONCE, ONCE WE, HE'S GONNA BE WATCHING THE SITUATION THERE.
SO, BUT THEY WOULD BE ON A, A TWO ACRE LOT THEN, OR, BUT THEY'RE IN A SUBDIVISION.
SO YOU'RE TELLING SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN'T PUT THAT ON THEIR TWO ACRE SUBDIVISION, IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING THEM? YEAH.
I'M, IF I WANT TO BUY THAT HOUSE AND PUT IT ON MY TWO ACRE LOT IN THE COUNTY, I CAN BUY A, WELL, I CAN PUT A WELL AND A LEGAL SEPTIC TO IT.
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YOU CAN BUY A CONEX HOUSE AND PUT IT ON YOUR PROPERTY.THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT AT ALL.
THIS IS TALKING ABOUT DENSITY OF STACKING A BUNCH TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT ACTION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDING HERE.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR MORE NON-FAMILY RENTALS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS THE, THIS REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, THAT, THAT CORRELATES WITH DENSITY TO ME,
I MEAN, IF I GOT A HUNDRED ACRES, THAT'S A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN IF I GOT A TWO ACRE OR FIVE ACRE DEAL.
AND THIS ISN'T SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT, IT'S JUST SAYING THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AS FAR AS HOW FAR APART THEY'RE SPACED, THE QUALITY OF THE ROAD, GETTING TO IT, ACCESS FOR FIRE, SEPTIC, ET CETERA.
COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU GET A COPY OF THAT FROM HAYES COUNTY AND LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND WE CAN ALWAYS BRING THIS BACK AND THEN LOOK AT SOME, LOOK AT A BIGGER PICTURE ON THIS THING OF WHAT WE CAN DO.
WELL, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING MORE OF THAT HOMEWORK THAN ADOPTING THESE AND PUTTING 'EM IN FORCE RIGHT THIS SECOND.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
SEEMS LIKE TAKING A BIG, A BIG, UH, BIG ACTION RIGHT HERE WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE DENSITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT A SITUATION.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TELL SOMEBODY WHAT THEY CAN DO ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TELL, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONTROL, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REGULATE THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT A PROBLEM.
UH, AND I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ZEROED IN ON THAT PROBLEM.
LET'S GET SOME, SOMEBODY WHAT THEY CAN DO ON THEIR PROPERTY OR NOT.
LET'S GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF REGULATING THE, THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO REGULATE.
HOWEVER, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROPERTY RIGHTS SIDE OF ME THAT SAYS THIS IS NOT WHAT EXACTLY STEP WE WANNA BE TAKING AS A COUNTY TODAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
BUT HOW, HOW CAN WE JUST LET THIS KEEP ON GOING? ADDING MORE AND MORE HOUSES TO THESE ONE ACRES AND TWO ACRES.
AND ANYWAY, WE GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
I'M, I'M, I'M ALL FOR, UH, CREATING, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HANDLE THE PROBLEM.
MAYBE MR. HEISER HAVE COME UP WITH A GENIUS ANSWER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN PAPER MOTION FAILS.
UH, ASK THIS, UH, COME BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM, RICH.
AND IF YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH ALSO COMMISSIONER HALE ON GETTING A COPY OF THAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT BROADER WITH DISCUSSION NEXT TIME.
[6.K. Discuss and take necessary action regarding the City of Weatherford Right of Way dedication and Permits for the Parker County Sheriff Modular Building. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
GONNA MOVE DOWN TO ITEM K, UH, SIX K.REGARDING THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION, PERMITS FOR THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF MODULAR BUILDING.
IT WAS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
UH, BUT I'M GLAD YOU WERE HERE WITH IT, SIR.
UH, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS SHANNON AVE WITH BAIRD, HAMPTON AND BROWN.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR A NEW MODULAR BUILDING AT HOGGLE AND JAMES STREET.
UH, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, BOTH JAMES AND JOHNSON STREET JAMESON TO THE NORTH JOHNSON TO THE SOUTH, UH, THE BACK OF CURB IS BASICALLY AT THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THE, THE LOT THAT THE COUNTY OWNS ARE LOTS.
THERE'S THREE PARCELS THE COUNTY OWNS.
NOT ASKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE READ FREE PLATTED.
UH, THEY'RE ASKED, THEY OFFERED UP A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS OF DEDICATING 10 FEET, A RIGHT OF AWAY ON THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, THE JAMESON AND THE SOUTH ON JOHNSON, SO THAT, UH, SIDEWALKS CAN BE PUT IN AND THERE WOULD BE A MORE PROPER RIGHT OF WAY ON, ON BOTH STREETS.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A HANDFUL OF PERMITS THAT NEED TO BE SIGNED AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID ALL OF THAT, EITHER RELI LIES STRICTLY WITH JUDGE DEAN OR WITH THIS COURT TO ALLOW JUDGE, DEAN OR OTHERS SUCH AS THE SHERIFF OR, UH, MARK LONG, THE, UH, MAINTENANCE GROUNDS TO SIGN IT.
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UH, MOST OF THESE I THINK, JUDGE DEAN'S PURVIEW WOULD BE, WOULD BE FINE.THERE'S SOME DURING THE CONSTRUCTION BUILDING PERMIT THAT PERHAPS, UH, MR. LONG WOULD BE A, A, A GOOD SUBSTITUTE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE COURT TO TAKE ACTION TO ALLOW APPROPRIATE STAFF TO SIGN THESE FORMS SO WE CAN MOVE, UH, THE PROJECT FORWARD.
I'M MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE A COUNTY JUDGE OR AS DESIGNEE TO, UH, SIGN THE, UH, PERMITS AND GET THOSE GOING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
WE HAVE SECOND BY MAY BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AND I'LL, I'LL GET THOSE PERMITS BACK TO YOU.
[6.G. Discuss/Approve/Take action on Letter of Concern regarding the development of a potential event venue on FM 51. (John Forrest / Commissioner Holt)]
TO ITEM SIX G, DISCUSS APPROVED.TAKE ACTION ON LETTER OF CONCERN REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF POTENTIAL EVENT VENUE ON FM 51.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOLTON OR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
AND I, I HAVE A PRELIMINARY DRAFT.
I I DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETE DRAFT.
UH, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH DOUG SHAW UP AT THE OPPORTUNITY GROUNDWATER DISTRICT, AND BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE INFORMATION THAT WILL GO TO TCQ IS JUST ON THE DESIGN AND THE QUALITY OF THE WATER, NOT THE PERMISSION TO DRILL THE WELL FOR THAT SPECIFIC VENUE.
AND HE SAID THEY, THEY DO HAVE HEARINGS, SO IF WE WANT TO OBJECT TO THAT, WELL GOING IN FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, VENUE, THEN WE COULD OBJECT, ATTEND THOSE HEARINGS AND VOICE OUR CONCERNS.
HE SAID THAT THEY DO CONTROL THE QUANTITY OF WATER THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THAT VENUE.
DO THAT WELL, SO THEY DO CONTROL THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS AT THAT HEARING AS FAR AS WHAT QUANTITY IS AVAILABLE.
SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS.
I I THINK JACOB HAS BEEN VISITING WITH, UH, TABC AS FAR AS THE THAT'S CORRECT.
I, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY HEARINGS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED.
JACOB, MAY THEY HAVE NOT SCHEDULED IT YET.
I'VE ALREADY ISSUED A FORMAL PROTEST ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS COMMISSIONER.
AND, UH, JOHN, IF YOU NEED ANY ASSISTANCE AT ALL IN GETTING THAT LETTER FROM A PRELIMINARY STAGE TO A STAGE THAT WE CAN SEE HERE ON THE COURT, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT, UH, CINDY AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, NUMBER ONE, WHO, WHAT ENTITIES WOULD BE INVOLVED? UH, I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT, TCQ WOULD BE A CRITICAL INDIVIDUAL TO NOTIFY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND I THINK RUSTY LEFT.
UM, WELL, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DRAFT A LETTER OF CONCERN THAT JUST INDICATED OUR CONCERN AS A COURT AND SEND IT TO ALL OF THE RELEVANT AGENCIES, TTEC, Q, TABC, ET CETERA.
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY FORMAL AUTHORITY TO SAY YAY OR NAY, WE WANTED ALL OF THE EVEN SEMI PERTINENT ENTITIES TO UNDERSTAND OUR CONCERNS ON THIS.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU NEED ANY HELP DRAFTING THAT LETTER, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP.
AND I WAS GONNA ASK RUSTY, 'CAUSE THE OTHER, THE OTHER INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED, UH, TCQ WOULD THEN GO BACK TO OUR PERMITTING DEPARTMENT FOR PERMITTING ON THAT PARTICULAR VENUE.
SO, UH, AND THAT'S ONCE AGAIN, BASED ON DISCHARGE, WHAT'S GONNA BE DISCHARGED OUTTA THAT PARTICULAR VENUE.
I THINK, UH, RUSTY, HE MAY STILL BE OUT IN THE HALLWAY THERE.
AND SO RUSTY, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VENUE ON 51.
AND THE FACT THAT TCQ WOULD RELY ON YOU FOR PERMITTING THAT PARTICULAR VENUE BASED ON THE DISCHARGE, THEY WON'T HAVE A COMMERCIAL SEWAGE FACILITY OR TREATMENT FACILITY.
SO, UH, THE INFORMATION WAS YES, THEY WOULDN'T, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT COULD BE SEPTIC.
UH, THE WATER USAGE WILL BE WAY OVER 5,000 GALLONS.
THERE WOULD BE NO, THERE WOULD BE NO PERMITTING THROUGH MY OFFICE THAT'D HAVE A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.
WELL, AND A-T-C-D-Q, UH, PACKAGE PLANT.
SO IT'S ALL, IT WOULD ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE.
'CAUSE ONCE YOU CREST 5,000 GALLONS, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY.
IT'S ALL TCQ AT THAT POINT, THE DESIGN.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT, SPEAKING WITH DOUG SHAW, SPEAKING WITH DOUG SHAW, THE UPPER OPPORTUNITY GROUNDWATER DISTRICT, HE'S SAYING BASED ON THE DESIGN, THEY WOULD JUST APPROVE THE DESIGN, THAT THE PERMIT WOULD COME BACK TO HIM AT THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND ALSO POTENTIALLY NOT, NOT ON THE SEWER PLANT? NO, ON THE SEWER.
UH, I, I GET NOTIFIED THAT THERE, THAT THE SEWER PLANT WAS APPROVED.
WE'LL, JUST, THAT'S ALL WE'LL HAVE, WELL, SPECIFIC QUESTION, WILL YOU GET NOTIFIED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE SEWER PLANT? YES.
IT'LL GENERALLY, IT'LL GENERALLY TAKE ABOUT A YEAR FROM START TO FINISH TO GET APPROVAL.
SO HOW DO YOU GET NOTIFIED? TCQ WILL SEND ME A LETTER WHEN THEY, UH, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION? YES.
AND THAT TIME YOU'D FIND OUT WHEN THERE WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SPEAK TO THEM REGARDING THAT AND
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THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE A HEARING REGARDING THE DISCHARGE? PROBABLY THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.BUT I, I WOULD HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE IT.
AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE COULD BRING UP TO TCEQ AT A HEARING IF WE REQUEST TO BE PRESENT? JUST THE WATER DRAW.
BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU GET THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ONE SPOT, EVEN AT FOUR GALLONS PER PERSON THAT'S GOING TO THE RESTROOM TWICE, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE, I MEAN, UH, WE DID THE MATH, UH, I FORGOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ASKING THAT WATER TABLE, I I BELIEVE IT WAS 20,000 PLUS GALLONS, YOU KNOW, GIMME 20,000 GALLONS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU JUST, THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD DRAW ON THAT WATER TABLE.
WELL, I'M, I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DISCHARGE 'CAUSE DOUG SHAW STATED THAT THEY WOULD CONTROL THE QUANTITY THAT COULD BE DRAWN OUTTA THE GROUND AND PERMIT.
SO, WELL THE DI THE DISCHARGE IS THE SAME.
SO THEY GOTTA HAVE A SEWER PLANT.
'CAUSE EVERY, EVERY GALLON IN ISS A GALLON OUT.
WELL, YOU CAN'T TAKE 20,000 GALLONS IN AND PROCESS IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, IT HAS TO HAVE TIME TO BREAK DOWN.
SO IT, IT'S GONNA BE TRICKY TO DESIGN.
SO WHAT WOULD THE DISCHARGE BE ON A PLANT THAT SIZE? WOULD IT BE I'D HAVE TO WATER INTO A, A BACK INTO A CREEK OR WOULD IT BE SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR WHAT WOULD IT BE? THEY COULD DO EITHER OR.
BUT ONCE YOU GO THAT BIG, IT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY GONNA GET A DISCHARGE PERMIT INTO THE CREEK.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE SURGE LOAD, MOST SEWER SYSTEMS TAKE IN WATER.
THAT, THAT REQUIRE LARGER, LARGER SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT.
IT JUST, YOU'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE COULD EXPRESS TO TCEQ WHEN THERE'S A HEARING REGARDING THAT? YES.
JUST TO CLARIFY HERE, THAT THE AGENDA ITEM $50 FINE
DID WE NOT APPROVE THAT ALREADY? YES, WE APPROVED THAT WE WOULD DRAFT A LETTER AND WE APPROVED THAT WE WERE CONCERNED, BUT THAT LETTER HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN YET.
WHERE DOES THAT LETTER COME FROM, JAKE? AND I'LL HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT WILL BE CIRCULATED FOR SIGNATURES ON WEDNESDAY.
SO IT'LL COME TO ATTORNEY COUNTY ATTORNEYS ALL.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST IT BE ON YOUR LETTERHEAD, JUDGE.
UM, JUST, YEAH, AS LONG AS WE EXECUTE WHAT HAS BEEN, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND AS I UNDERSTAND, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A SOMETHING WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO EXECUTE THAT.
SO WE, WHATEVER YOU NEED, LET US KNOW.
ANYTHING, SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION ON IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE I MOVE ON? THANK YOU.
[6.H. Discuss/Take action on allowing professional development materials to be purchased under Training budget line items. (Commissioner Holt)]
GO TO ITEM H, DISCUSSION.TAKE ACTION ON LINE OF PROFESSIONAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL MATERIALS TO BE PURCHASED UNDER TRAINING BUDGET LINE ITEMS. COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SO THIS QUESTION CAME UP RECENTLY WHERE I WAS TRYING TO PURCHASE, UM, SOME TRAINING MATERIALS OUT OF A BUDGET LINE THAT I HAD PLENTY OF, PLENTY OF FUNDS IN THAT BUDGET LINE.
AND THROUGH A SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS, INCLUDING A MEETING WITH THE PURCHASING BOARD, BRIANNA OR COUNTY AUDITOR WHO'S NOT HERE EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS AROUND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS CLEAR UNDER CURRENT COMMISSIONER COURT GUIDELINES THAT THIS TYPE OF THING WOULD BE COVERED.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO READ A LETTER FROM BRIANNA THAT SHE SENT TO ME, RICH CONTRERAS AND JOHN FORREST REGARDING THIS.
I SPOKE WITH JOHN ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY AND BELOW ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONSIDER COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHOULD CONSIDER DEFINING THE SCOPE OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT MATERIALS.
THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, HOWEVER, IT COULD BE BROADLY INTERPRETED IF NOT DISCUSSED.
FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD THIS INCLUDE STUDY GUIDES FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATIONS OR TESTS? IS THERE A CAP OR WILL PURCHASES BE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THERE IS AN AVAILABLE BUDGET? ALTHOUGH THE AGENDA ITEM CLEARLY STATES MATERIALS CLARIFICATION THAT THIS DOES NOT EXTEND TO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAININGS OR CONFERENCES, UNLESS THAT IS THE INTENT OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO WITH THOSE, AND I, I THINK THOSE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS WITH THOSE THINGS IN MIND.
WHAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE THE COURT IS MY LEADERSHIP STAFF ARE GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN AT THE PRECINCT BARN FOR QUITE A WHILE.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAME UP DRIVING A BULLDOZER AND USING A ROAD GRADER AND ALL OF THAT.
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GROWS AS RAPIDLY AS WE ARE, I WANT TO EQUIP THOSE GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN MORE ON THE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR SIDE WITH SOME OF THE SOFTER SKILLS, SO TO SPEAK, LIKE COMMUNICATION SKILLS, TIME MANAGEMENT, DECISION MAKING, ET CETERA.SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT WE EXPAND OUR GUIDELINES, AND I BELIEVE THIS DOES HAVE TO COME FROM COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO INCLUDE US BEING ABLE TO PURCHASE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT MATERIALS, SUCH AS A BOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OFF OF, UH, WHEREVER WE NEED TO BUY IT FROM SUBJECT TO A YEARLY CAP.
THE $500 THE MATERIALS ARE TO REMAIN THE POSSESSION OF THE COUNTY SO WE CAN STAMP IT OR WRITE ON IT, YOU KNOW, POSSESSION OF PRECINCT TWO AND SHARE IT.
AND WE CAN SHARE IT IN BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED.
UM, AND THAT THIS WOULD INCLUDE BOOKS THAT ARE OF A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT NATURE, SUCH AS ON COMMUNICATION, TIME MANAGEMENT, PRIORITIZATION, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
LIKE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ONLINE THAT'S ACCESS SURE.
IF THERE'S A STUDY GUIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION SUBJECT TO THOSE LIMITATIONS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOL IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
UH, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
COULD YOU JUST INCLUDE IN THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE, UM, THE REVISION OF THE PURCHASING POLICY FOR THAT? I HAVE TO SAY IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE PURCHASING POLICY.
YEAH, PLEASE, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I'LL SECOND THE AMENDED.
OH, I, I, I THOUGHT I MENTIONED THAT IF I DIDN'T, COMMISSIONER WAL SECONDED THE MOTION.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.
[6.I. Accept the donation of the cornerstone for the East Annex Sub-Courthouse Annex from Phoenix Masonic Lodge. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
AYE.I ACCEPTED DONATION OF THE CORNERSTONE FOR THE EAST ANNEX SUB COURTHOUSE ANNEX FROM PHOENIX, MASONIC LODGE, KIM.
SO, UM, WE HAD, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JAKE AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HIS LAST NAME.
HE'S WITH, UM, JRJ AND THEY HAD, UM, DONE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EAST ANNEX BUILDING AND, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UM, JRJ MENTIONED TO HAVING A TIME CAPSULE PUT IN, UM, A CORNERSTONE AT THE BUILDING.
AND, UM, COMMISSIONER DUGAN WAS KIND OF HEADING THAT UP AND NOTHING EVER CAME OF IT.
AND SO THEY HAD LEFT A CORNERSTONE OUT OF THE BUILDING, UM, WAITING FOR THAT TIME CAPSULE.
AND SO PHOENIX LODGE HAS NOW, UM, SUGGESTED, UM, THAT THEY WOULD DONATE TO THE CORNERSTONE AND HAVE IT INSTALLED FOR THE COUNTY.
AND SO JUST THE COURT WILL NEED TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION.
COMMISSIONER COLLINS MADE THE MOTION FOR ACCEPTANCE.
COMMISSIONER HALE HAS MADE THE SECOND IN DISCUSSION PHASE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE OF 40 BELT? WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMES CAPSULE DEAL, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NEAT TO DO, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO FINISH THAT UP AND COMPLETE THAT FOR COMMISSIONER DUGGAN, IF THAT'S STILL AN OPTION.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY GONNA SUPPLY THE TIME CAPSULE, THE LODGE? UH, WE, WE CAN REACH BACK OUT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAVEN'T DONE THE WORK ALREADY.
WELL, I'VE BEEN TO A BUNCH OF THOSE DONATIONS OR INSTALLING THE CORNERSTONE DEAL.
SHOULD THEY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S YOU.
BUT I THINK IT BE YOU ALL, I MEAN, I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE EACH, EACH COMMISSIONER WAS KIND OF THOUGHT THAT EACH COMMISSIONER COULD COME UP WITH AN ITEM TO PUT IN THE CAPSULE.
AT SOME POINT I THOUGHT IT ALREADY BEEN DONE, BUT NOBODY EVER SUBMITTED ANYTHING.
I I GAVE THEM A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO PUT IN FOR ME
WHERE'S THAT AT? YEAH, WITH INTEREST, YOU GOTTA WAIT A HUNDRED YEARS TO GET IT
SO YOU WANNA, UM, APPROVE THE DONATION, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM GET BACK WITH YOU ALL YOU WANT.
DO YOU WANT A CONTINGENT UPON THEM PROVIDING THE STONE? THEY'RE PROVIDING THE STONE, THEY'RE PROVIDING THE STONE AND INSTALLATION.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A TIME CAPSULE.
SO I THINK WE PUT, UH, COMMISSIONER HA IN CHARGE OF, OF, OF FINISHING THIS JOB UP.
HOW ABOUT THAT? I, I WILL GIVE YOU JAKE CONTACT INFORMATION.
WELL, THE LANGUAGE WITH COMMISSIONER HILL IS THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT PROJECT MANAGER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES BY BOTH.
[6.J. Texas Butane Agreement for Parker County East Sub-Courthouse Annex. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
ITEM J ON A TEXAS BUTANE AGREEMENT FOR PARKER COUNTY EAST SUB COURTHOUSE.SO TEXAS BUTANE IS SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR AN AGREEMENT TO BE FILLED OUT FOR PROPANE FOR THE, I'M SORRY, BUTANE FOR THE EAST AND IT'S JUST, UM, AN AGREEMENT HERE.
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REVIEW.YOU HAD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
IT'S PROPANE, NOT IS IT PROPANE? OKAY, I'M SORRY.
LET'S, LET'S, TEXAS BUTANE IS THE COMPANY PROPANE PROPANE ACCESSORIES.
YEARS AGO THEY CALLED IT BUTANE.
AND DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TANK SITTING THERE? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
I I THINK IT RAN OUT AT 1.1 TIME.
I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
[6.L. Approve and authorize the County Judge to execute the Engineering Services Agreement with Jacob Martin Engineering for professional services related to 801 Santa Fe Drive. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH JACOB MARTIN, ENGINEERING FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO 8 0 1 SANTA FE DRIVE.SO, UM, COUNSELOR FORREST AND MYSELF, WE HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH JACOB MARTIN'S REPRESENTATIVE REGARDING THEIR A I A AGREEMENT AND REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND UM, THEY WERE JUST READY FOR THE JUDGE TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.
THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AT THAT TIME TO DESIGN A PLAN BASED ON ELECTIONS REQUEST AND, UM, THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL FOR THE DESIGN IF YOU SO FORTH.
WE'D LIKE TO, WELL, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE RUN INTO IN THIS SITUATION IS THAT WE ASK, WE, UM, ALLOW THE END USER TO MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS.
SOMETIMES THEY GET OUT OF CONTROL.
HOW ARE WE GONNA CONTROL THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT WISHES TO.
I I KNOW THAT JAMES AND MARK AND WHO ALL WAS ON THE COMMITTEE CON, WEREN'T YOU ON? DIDN'T Y'ALL KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND, AND TO YEAH, SPEAK WITH JACOB MARTIN'S? WELL, WHAT I DON'T WANT REPRESENTATIVE BEFORE SEE IS A BUNCH OF WORK BY THE ENGINEERS AND THEN WE COME BACK AND SAY, WELL THAT'S GONNA COST MORE MONEY THAN WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND ON THAT.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT DIFFERENTLY SO THAT WE DON'T WIND UP IN THAT SITUATION? COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION? I DO JUST PUT IN A COST NOT TO EXCEED AND AT THAT POINT THAT THAT CAPS IT AND IF THEY WANT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL BEFORE THE COURT.
SO CURRENTLY THE COURT BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT, UM, BUDGET $500,000 FOR RENOVATIONS AND, AND SERVICES FOR THIS BUILDING.
UM, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES ARE GONNA BE AROUND 75 TO $90,000 SO FAR.
THAT WOULDN'T INCLUDE IF YOU ALL APPROVED CONSTRUCTION, THEIR, THEIR FEE FOR THAT WOULD BE 9% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
UM, HOWEVER, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GONNA BE AT THIS POINT.
I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, AUTHOR AUTHORIZE THE, UH, COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THAT BUDGET IN THIS YEAR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CON CONLEY.
IS THERE ANY OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
[6.M. Approval of Bond for Oliver Roy Green, Deputy Constable, Precinct #3. (Lila Deakle / Judge Deen)]
ITEM E ON APPROVAL OF BOND FOR OLIVER ROY GREEN, DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE LILA.WE HAVE THAT AND I'VE REVIEWED THOSE AND IT MEETS ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION WILL BE ABOVE COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PUT YOUR SPECIAL, OH YEAH, WE'RE DONE.
[6.N. Approval of Bond for Traci Ingram, Deputy Constable, Precinct #3. (Lila Deakle / Judge Deen)]
IN ON APPROVAL OF BOND FOR TRACY INGRAM, DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE.UH, ADDITIONALLY I'VE REVIEWED THAT AND IT DOES MEET ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, SORRY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALL AND WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.
[7. ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES]
TO ITEM SEVEN ON ACCEPT IN THE MINUTES.ITEM EIGHT THROUGH C FREEZER NICHOLS INCORPORATED 2023 TRANSPORTATION BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT ITEM B, DEBT BOOK AGREEMENT ITEM C, EXECUTED RENEWAL CONTRACT FOR THE THRIFT MARK PARTNERSHIP RECORDS SHOW THOSE ARE IN MINUTES.
UH, MOVES TO ITEM EIGHT ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE NO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. IT TAKES US ITEM NINE ON PLATS.
WE'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK AT ABOUT 10 35.
RECORD SHOW WHAT? WE'LL RECESS AT 10 25.
UM, EVERYBODY WOULD TAKE THEIR SEATS.
THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'RE GONNA AM I GOOD? YES.
THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL RECONVENE AT 10 42 FROM
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RECESS AND GO TO ITEM NINE ON[9.A. PRECINCT 1]
PLATTING UNDER NINE.ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR LIVE OAK HILLS CONSISTENT OF 9.971 ACRES DIVIDED BY AMBI AMBITION GROUP LLC LOCATED OFF OF YUCCA VIEW EAST WITH AQUA TEXAS WATER IN PRECINCT ONE.
IT'S GONNA BE BROKEN INTO THREE LOTS.
THEY RANGE IN SIZE FROM 2.7 ACRES, 3.14 AND 4.07 ACRES.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OFF OF YUCCA VIEW EAST FOR 0.055 EIGHTH OF AN ACRE.
AND WE DID SEND OUT 141 CERTIFIED LETTERS AND RAN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE.
OKAY, JOHN, YOU WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YOU READY? IT'S OPEN SO WE NEED TO, WELL, NO, I NEED TO OPEN IT.
ARE Y'ALL GOOD? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 43.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NINE? A ONE HERE? NINE C NINE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 44 AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSELOR.
EVERYTHING GOOD FOR THE FINAL PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER LISTING THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE.
IT INDICATES A ZERO BALANCE ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AQUA TEXAS WILL PROVIDE WATER.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
I MOVE TO APPROVED 9 81 AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MAY BE COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
FIVE OH WILL GO ITEM TWO EXCEPT IN SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED FOR LIVE OAK HILLS FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY AND PRECINCT ONE.
AND THIS IS FOR, UH, 0.055 EIGHTH OF AN ACRE.
THE SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED IS AN ORDER.
IT DOES HAVE AN EXCEPTION CLAUSE TO VALID EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND NO OTHER EXCEPTIONS.
MOTION TO MAKE UP MY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
OH, WE'LL GO TO ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR JAMIE AKERS CONSISTING OF 11.48 ACRES DEVELOPED BY SERIES 1730.
GILLIAN, LLC SERIES ONE 10 GARY, LLC AND FRIENDLY FRANK MGF HOMES LOCATED OFF OF GILLIAN ROAD WITH WALNUT CREEK WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A REVISION OF LOTS.
THEY'RE GONNA BREAK THIS DOWN INTO EIGHT LOTS.
THEY RANGE IN SIZE FROM 1.01 ACRES TO 2.77.
THEY'RE ALSO ABANDONING, UM, AN EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY AND MOVING THAT OVER.
THEY WILL HAVE A NEW ONE TO BE KNOWN AS CORY LANE AND WALNUT CREEK WATER IS THEIR WATER SOURCE.
UH, WE NO, LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD SO I DIDN'T SEND OUT ANY CERTIFIED LETTERS, BUT I DID RUN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 46.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NINE THREE? HEARING NONE, SEE NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 46 AND GO TO THE ITEM.
COUNSEL, EVERYTHING GOOD FOR FINAL PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER LISTING THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE.
THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER THROUGH WALNUT CREEK AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
MOVED TO APPROVE NINE A THREE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR DIAMOND G ESTATES CONSISTENT OF 10.12 ACRES DEVELOPED BY LESLIE AND YOLANDA BRADLEY AND COLBY CAMPBELL LOCATED OFF OF LITTLE CAT TRACK ROAD WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVISION IS TO TAKE LOT 18 AND DIVIDE IT INTO TWO BLOCKS.
THE LOT 18 A IS GONNA HAVE 8.12 ACRES AND 18 B IS GOING TO HAVE TWO ACRES.
THIS IS A FAMILY, UH, THAT'S SPLITTING THE PROPERTY SO THAT A GRANDSON CAN LIVE OUT THERE.
UH, THE ROAD FRONTAGE IS OFF OF LITTLE CAT TRACK ROAD AND WELL WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE COUNSELOR.
EVERYTHING GOOD? UH, START THE REVISION.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
MOVE TO APPROVE 9 84 AS PRESENTED.
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MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
WE'LL GOT ITEM FIVE, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR DIAMOND G ESTATES AND PRECINCT ONE.
AND I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, THE, THE WAIVER.
THERE'S A LOT OF THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR.
I HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THESE ON HERE, BUT IN THAT AREA THERE'S A LOT OF WATER.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY FOR APPROVAL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ARE WE, SORRY, IS THIS UH, IS THIS IN ADDITION TO THE UPPER TRINITY GROUNDWATER RULES OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, 'CAUSE I'VE GOT A FEW, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, LIKE ONE WHERE ONE LADY, UH, BOUGHT TWO LOTS IN A SUBDIVISION.
TWO THREE ACRE, TWO ACRE LOT SOMETHING AND COMBINED THEM 13 MONTHS AGO AND NOW SHE'S JUST WANTING TO SPLIT 'EM BACK UP.
SO WE'VE GOTTA GET A WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER FOR THAT.
ARE THESE SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE IT'S ISH? YEAH, THIS IS, UM, I MEAN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY'RE SPLITTING OFF ONE TWO ACRE TRACK OF LAND, BUT IT DOES FLAG TO BE, HAVE A GROUNDWATER STUDY DONE BECAUSE OF THE NEW RULES.
THESE AREN'T A HUNDRED NEW LOTS ON A SUBDIVISION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, THIS IS ONE NEW LOT.
YEAH, NO, ALL OF 'EM ARE SAYING.
ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES.
ITEM SIX, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR 101 50 HEATHER RIDGE COURT FOR MARK AND JENNIFER PARKINSON IN PRECINCT ONE.
AND THIS IS THE SAME, IT'S JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE OTHER ONE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF FAVOR.
ITEM SEVEN, UH, WHICH WILL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT, THAT'S REMOVED.
UH, ITEM EIGHT IS A DUPLICATE THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
UH, NO SIR, WE NEED TO IF WE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION ON SEVEN, CAN WE DO EIGHT PLEASE? SORRY.
NOPE, I I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU MEANT.
WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL STAY ON ITEM SEVEN AND APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR WAIT, WAIT JUDGE, THESE ARE ONE, THEY'RE THE SAME THING.
NUMBER EIGHT, SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE DUPLICATES.
I ACTUALLY JUST WIPED 'EM BOTH OUT SINCE YOU DUPLICATED 'EM.
UM, ITEM SEVEN IS APPROVED THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY MOVE TO APPROVE NINE A SEVEN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HELM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR COULD.
LET ME FINISH IT FIRST THOUGH.
WHICH
UH, PROVE THE FINAL PLA FOR A SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS REOR.
ADDITION LOCATED IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY OF SPRINGTOWN CONSISTED OF 9.99 ACRES DEVELOPED BY DONALD AND JUDITH HOR LOCATED OFF OF SADDLE LANE WITH WOOD WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION.
LOT ONE HAS 2.5 ACRES AND LOT TWO HAS 7.49 ACRES.
UM, THEY DO HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE FOR BOTH LOTS OFF OF SANDLIN LANE.
AND THIS WAS IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY OF SPRINGTOWN, BUT THEY DID RELEASE TO THE COUNTY FOR PLATTING.
ARE THEY RELEASING ALL THEIR ETJ STUFF? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE
COUNSEL, EVERYTHING GOOD FOR FINAL.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING A ZERO BALANCE.
THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THIS PLAT AND APPROVE PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL OF PAPER PASS FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM 10, APPROVE OF PRELIMINARY PLANT WHERE SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS CONAWAY ACRES CONSIST OF 6.0253 ACRES DEVELOPED BY PATRICK AND PAULA CONAWAY LOCATED OFF OF REESE LANE WITH WALL WATER AND PRECINCT ONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION THAT CAME OUT OF A LARGER TRACK OF LAND.
UH, THE TOTAL TRACK SIZE IS 6.02 ACRES.
THEY HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF OF REESE LANE AND WELL WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE.
COUNSEL, EVERYTHING GOOD FOR PRELIMINARY PURPOSES AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER FOR PRELIMINARY PURPOSE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WAS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR.
APPROVE APPROVED THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR CONWAY ACRES IN PRECINCT ONE.
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THIS IS GONNA BE A SINGLE LOT SUBDIVISION.UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE DRILLING ONE WATER WELL FOR A SINGLE RESIDENCE ON THIS PROPERTY AND THEY HAD REQUESTED A, UH, WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER MOVE TO APPROVE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[9.B. PRECINCT 2]
GO TO ITEM B ONE, PRECINCT TWO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR CARLTON ACRES CONSISTENT OF 9.7736 ACRES DIVIDED BY NTH UNLIMITED LLC AND DOUGLAS AND JUDITH CORMIER LOCATED OFF OF SCOTT LANE WITH WALL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.COUNSEL EVERYTHING IN AN ORDER AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE PLATING PROCESS.
UH, THIS REVISION'S JUST GONNA BE UM, TURNED INTO FIVE LOTS.
THEY RANGE FROM 1.7 ACRES TO 2.0045 ACRES.
OKAY, WE'D JUST LIKE TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
I'M SORRY, I'M SITTING HERE CHOKING ON COFFEE.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOL HAS MADE COMMISSIONER HOLT HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? EXCUSE ME.
ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR CARLTON ACRES.
LOT 27 IN PRECINCT 2 27 R TO BE SPECIFIC IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE STARTED CARLTON ACRES, WE HAD A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.
UM, YEAH WITH THE, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
WE, WE MET WITH THESE FOLKS BEFORE THE JANUARY ONE CHANGEOVER IN THE RULES.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT PREVIOUSLY FELL UNDER OUR EXEMPTIONS IN THE PARKER COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHERE THEY WOULD NOT, THEY WERE AUTOMATICALLY NOT REQUIRED TO DRILL A GROUNDWATER TESTING WELL BECAUSE THEY STARTED THE PROCESS AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THAT JANUARY ONE TURNOVER.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIR TO CHANGE THINGS UP ON 'EM MIDWAY.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.
SO THEY, WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ONE LOT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM THREE.
I'LL BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR THE OAKS OF PARKER COUNTY.
LOT 27 R CONSISTENT OF 5.587 ACRES DEVELOPED BY ALLISON AND AARON BAILEY LOCATED IN PRECINCT TWO.
THIS WAS A PREVIOUS REVISION WHERE THEY HAD COMBINED THE TWO LOTS AND NOW THEY'RE GOING BACK IN AND THEY'RE SEPARATING THOSE TWO LOTS BACK OUT AGAIN.
UH, LOT 27 R ONE'S GONNA HAVE 3.5 ACRES AND 27 R TWO IS GONNA HAVE 2.02 ACRES AND BOTH ROADS HAVE FRONTAGE OFF OF OPEN LANE.
WE'D JUST LIKE TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
COUNSELOR, ARE WE GOOD? UH, YES.
EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
MOTION BACK BY COMMISSIONER HOLT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
GOOD ITEM FOUR AND APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR THE OAKS OF PARKER COUNTY LOT 27 R AND PRECINCT TWO.
MS. CLAP WAS ORIGINALLY FLATTED BACK IN 2019 OR 2020 I THINK.
UM, THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A LABOR FOR THIS STUDY.
YEAH, THEY, THEY BOUGHT TWO, UH, THREE ACRE LOT AND A TWO ACRE LOT AND THEY COMBINED THEM AND WHEN THEY COMBINED THEM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RULE THE WAY IT WAS RIGHT NOW AND SO IT, THEY COMBINED 'EM A YEAR AGO AND SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SPLIT 'EM UP AGAIN.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHARGE 'EM TO DO THAT.
MOTION FAVOR BY COMMISSIONER HOLT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
ITEM FIVE, RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR PIONEER CROSSING AND EXCEPT PIONEER CROSSING, ALFRED WAVE, PINAL PRAIRIE PROSPECT VIEW AND ROBERTSON BEND.
AS COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAYS IN PRECINCT TWO, THE PRECINCT HAS APPROVE THE RELEASE OF THESE ROADS.
YOU'D LIKE TO GET THEM ADDED COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM COUNSEL, ARE WE GOOD FOR EVERYTHING? YES WE ARE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALMAN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
ACCEPT AN EXTENSION LETTER OF CREDIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF LAMBERT MEADOWS IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND THE DEVELOPER HAS BROUGHT IN A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR AN EXTENSION HOPING THE WEATHER WILL BE IN HIS FAVOR.
WE'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM THIS UNTIL JUNE 9TH, 2024.
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COUNSELOR, EVERYTHING LOOK GOOD ON YOUR END? UH, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.MOTION BACK BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
BEGIN THEIR VISION FOR SADDLE CREST ESTATE PHASE TWO CONSISTENT OF 8.396 ACRES DEVELOPED BY CRV INVESTMENTS.
LLC LOCATED OFF OF LATA LATIGO COURT WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.
AND THIS SUBDIVISION WAS PUT IN IN 2022.
UM, THERE PURPOSES PROVISION IS TO DIVIDE LOT 38 INTO THREE LOTS, UH, TWO LOTS AT TWO ACRES AND ONE LOT AT 4.396 ACRES.
THEY HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF OF LATIGO PORT AND WE JUST LIKE TO GET PERMISSION TO START THE REVISION PROCESS.
COUNSELOR, EVERYTHING GOOD ON YOUR END? EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER HOLE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR SADDLE CREST STATE PHASE TWO AND PRECINCT TWO.
IT'S JUST TWO LOTS GETTING CARVED OFF OF A SMALL TRACT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[9.C. PRECINCT 3]
C ONE PRECINCT THREE.APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR THE REVISION ON DRIFTWOOD RANCH ON THE BRAUS PHASE FOUR AND PRECINCT THREE.
UH, THIS SUBDIVISION, THE REVISION HERE LOT FOUR R TWO IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OPERABLE LOT, IT IS JUST GOING TO ATTACH TO THEIR PRIVATE RETENTION POND ON THE NEIGHBORING LOT.
SO THE ONLY REVISION HERE IS LOT FOUR R ONE FOR A TOTAL OF 3.0773 ACRES.
SO WE WERE REQUESTING A WAIVER ON THAT ONE LOT.
THESE ARE BEING FLAGGED BY UPPER TRINITY TO, FOR US TO APPROVE A WAIVER WHEN IN FACT ALL WE'RE DOING IS DRILLING A LESS, ONE LESS.
WELL IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THIS, THIS LOT IS NOT GONNA BE DEVELOPED.
UH, THE MONKEY IS BEING PUT BACK ON OUR SHOULDERS FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY WAIVERS.
AND IN MY OPINION IT SHOULDN'T BE COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL ME THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT BACK TOGETHER OR YOU'RE GONNA DIVIDE A LOT THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE UP HERE EACH TIME.
HOWEVER, UNDER THE, UNDER THE RULES THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN TODAY, APPARENTLY WE'RE BEING REQUESTED TO GIVE THIS WAIVER FOR EVERYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US.
SO IT WILL BE BACK ON US IF THERE'S AN ISSUE.
THAT'S THE SITUATION I MOVE TO APPROVE.
BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
UM, POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN COMMISSIONER.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, THIS SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED.
WHEN WAS IT APPROVED? A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO.
RANCH HAS BEEN IN 2001 PLACE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
ITEM TWO, I APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION PROCESS FOR DRIFTWOOD RANCH ON THE ZA PHASE FOUR CONSISTENT OF 4.54 ACRES DEVELOPED BY ROBERT ALICIA TIBBITS IN
IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND LIKE I STATED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS TO DIVIDE LOT FOUR INTO THOSE TWO LOTS.
IT IS NOTED, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, NO WATER OR SEPTIC WILL BE PUT ON THIS.
AND IT'S JUST GOING BACK TO MR. LIPSCOMB ADJOINING PROPERTY.
UH, WE DID SEND OUT THREE CERTIFIED LETTERS THAT WERE IN THIS PHASE AND RAN ADS IN THE PAPER AS PER THE STATUTE.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1102.
IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM UNDER ITEM C TWO PRECINCT THREE HERE? NINE C NINE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1102 AND GO TO THE ITEM.
EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR THE FINAL REVISION.
PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN NEWSPAPER LIST THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING.
THE TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATES A ZERO BALANCE ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
ITEM NINE C TWO IS PRESENTED TO COURT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR
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PASS.ITEM THREE BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS FOR BEAR CREEK RANCH CONSIST OF 4.07 ACRES DWELLED BY GH LUMAR, LLC LOCATED OFF OF WINDING CREEK TRAIL AND WELL WATER AND PRECINCT THREE.
AND THIS IS A REVISION OF LOT 10 R INTO TWO LOTS, LOT 10 R ONE'S GONNA HAVE 2.02 ACRES AND UH, 11 R ONE IS GONNA HAVE 2.05 ACRES.
THEY DO HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF WINDING CREEK TRAIL.
WELL WATER IS GONNA BE THEIR WATER SOURCE AND WE'D JUST LIKE TO BEGIN THE REVISION PROCESS.
EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO BEGIN THE PROCESS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE TO BEGIN THE REVISION.
MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS FIVE.
OH WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FOUR AND APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR THE REVISION ON BEAR CREEK RANCH IN PRECINCT THREE.
MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WALTER WITH THE SECOND OF BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[9.D. PRECINCT 4]
ONE AND THIS IS PRECINCT FOUR.APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR SUBDIVISION.
BE KNOWN AS PECO RIVER RANCH EDITION CONSISTING OF 2.009 ACRES RELEASED BY THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.
DEVELOPED BY DAVID ARRINGTON, L-L-C-D-B-A PECOS RIVER RANCH LOCATED OFF OF EAST FM HIGHWAY 1187 WITH ABOVE WATER AND PRECINCT FOUR.
THIS IS A 2.009 ACRE TRACK OUT OF A 14 ACRE TRACK.
UH, THEY HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF EAST FM 1187 AND WELL WATER IS THEIR WATER SOURCE AND THEIR WAIVER WAS GRANTED ON FEBRUARY 12TH FOR THEIR WATER STUDY.
THIS WAS IN THE ETJ, THE CITY OF FORT WORTH, BUT THEY DID RELEASE TO THE COUNTY.
COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THE FINAL PLAT? THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE.
THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THE DEVELOPER HAS MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION WILL BE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BOARD? VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
UM, AS FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 1105, MOVE TO ADJOURN IF A MOTION IS SECOND.
THE RECORDS SHOW WILL ADJOURN AT 1105.