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[Call to Order]

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THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING ON THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON THE FY 25 BUDGET WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR TUESDAY, JULY 16TH, 2024.

UH, LET THE RECORDS SHOW IT IS 9 0 2.

UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IS PRESENT.

UH, THE, UH, THIS WORKSHOP IS BEING STREAMED AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE CONSIDER AND DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING.

I WOULD DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A WORKSHOP.

UH, THIS IS NOT A DECISION MAKING PROCESS AT THIS POINT OF GATHERING INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PREPARE US FOR THESE DECISIONS, UH, THAT WILL BE COMING UP.

UM,

[I.A. Discussion/Presentation on Department 497 Treasurer/Human Resources budget requests. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

WE, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM ONE ON APPROVAL ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 97 TREASURER HUMAN RESOURCES BUDGET REQUEST.

BECKY, GOOD MORNING.

UM, MY DEPARTMENT BUDGET IS PRETTY EASY.

UM, I AM ASKING FOR INCREASES IN MY POSTAGE GASOLINE CONTRACT SERVICE LINES, AS WELL AS FOUR NEW MONITORS THAT I HAVE VISITED WITH IT AND IS UNDER, UH, THE IT DIRECTOR'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE SOME MONITORS REPLACED.

BUT WHAT I DID WAS I LOOKED AT MY OTHER LINES AND LOOKED AT MY SPEND FOR FISCAL 24.

SO ANYTHING THAT I INCREASED, I LOWERED SOME OTHER LINES TO WASH THAT OUT.

, I, YEAH, SO I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST LOOKED AT MY CONTRACT SERVICES.

TYPICALLY THAT'S ABOUT A 10% INCREASE.

SO I, UM, ALLOTTED FOR THAT.

UM, SAME THING WITH MY, UH, GAS AND, UH, POSTAGE.

KIND OF LOOKED AT A MONTHLY AVERAGE AND ADDED ONTO THAT, BUT AGAIN, LOOKED AT OTHER LINES TO SEE WHAT'S UPCOMING FOR NEXT YEAR TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

SO ANYWAY, UM, I KNOW I HAVE A TON MORE TIME.

YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT INSURANCE, RETIREMENT, OR ANYTHING FUN LIKE THAT? NEXT, GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

NO.

OKAY.

, GO AHEAD.

WELL, I MEAN, TYPICALLY I DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS IN WORKSHOP, BUT, UM, I HAVE RECEIVED OUR INSURANCE RATES FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THERE WILL NOT BE ANY INCREASES TO THE MEDICAL RATES OR ANYTHING.

IT'LL BE A RATE HOLD.

WE DID HAVE A HIGH CLAIM YEAR LAST YEAR, SO, BUT WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL OPEN ENROLLMENT.

UM, MY OFFICE DID A FANTASTIC JOB DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT AND ALSO DURING THE NEW HIRE PROCESSING, REALLY EDUCATING EMPLOYEES ON PLAN TYPES.

AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO BENEFIT FROM SEEING A LOT OF EMPLOYEES, TRANS, YOU KNOW, LOOK, MOVE OVER TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANS.

CONTROLLING THEIR CLAIMS, UM, HAS BEEN A GREAT THING.

OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULD, WE ANTICIPATE SOME SAVINGS FROM THE SWITCH TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.

SO, UM, ALL IN ALL, THEY DID WANT ABOUT A $600,000 TOTAL INCREASE IN FUNDING FROM US.

BUT EVER WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER THINGS AND BASED ON OUR FUND BALANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT A NEED TO DO THAT.

I CAN DO THAT NUMBER DOWN TO ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PRETTY EASY.

AND BASED ON OUR FUND BALANCE, THERE'S NO NEED TO INCREASE RATES.

YOU'RE TO BE COMMENDED ON THAT, BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT ACROSS SOME GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, THEIR INSURANCE RATES ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THE BNSL FUNDED PLAN AND BEING WITH PBC, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS SOMETIMES WITHIN PBC, BUT ALL IN ALL, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A GOOD PARTNERSHIP.

UM, THE OTHER RATE THAT I HAVE RECEIVED NOW IS THE T-C-D-R-S RATE.

UM, OUR REQUIRED RATE HAS CAME IN LOWER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY.

UH, AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION WILL BE JUST TO KEEP IT WHAT WE DO CURRENTLY PAY.

UM, AND THAT WOULD HELP OVERFUND THE PLAN.

UM, IF WE WERE TO REDUCE IT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $250,000 IN ANNUAL SAVINGS TO FUND 10 BASED ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS AS THEY STAND RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT IF WE LEAVE IT, YOU KNOW, THE SAME, UM, OR ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY ARE THE TERM LIFE INSURANCE NUMBER, THAT ACTUALLY THAT PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY DID DROP A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHAT I WILL BE, UM, RECOMMENDING TO COURT, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ON ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN, I'M JUST TALKING.

UM, BUT, UM, IF WE FLIP THE NUM THE SAVINGS FROM THE GROUP TERM LIFE RATE AND EVEN ADD THAT TO OUR FUNDED RATE, UM, IT WOULD MAKE US FUND A LITTLE BIT MORE AND IT WOULD COST, I THINK, ABOUT $50,000 MORE A YEAR BASED ON WHAT SALARIES ARE NOW.

BUT AGAIN, THAT HELPS US IN OUR OVERALL FUNDING AS WELL.

AS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE MADE THAT PAYMENT BACK TO T-C-D-R-S BASED ON MONEY THAT WAS LEFT IN THE RETIREMENT LINES FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

UM, I ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, ASKING THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND HOPEFULLY TO GET OUR FUNDING RATE UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OR OVER, IT ALWAYS COMES UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INCREASING, UH, RETIREMENT BENEFITS FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY RETIRED.

HAVE THAT ON YOUR SIDE.

YES, I ALREADY ACTUALLY HAVE, YES, I

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ACTUALLY DO ALREADY HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THAT.

UM, I HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROACHED FOR THIS AS WELL.

SO IF WE WERE TO DO A 1% PRE-FUNDED COLA TO RETIREES, THAT'S ABOUT $700,000 AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1% FOR SOMEBODY THAT RETIRED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES THAT PROBABLY HAVE A $200 RETIREMENT CHECK WHERE YOU CAN DO THE MATH TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF AN INCREASE THAT PERSON IS GONNA HAVE.

UM, WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY PAID OFF ALL OF OUR OLD COLAS THAT HAVE BEEN FINANCED IT.

AND JUST REMINDS YOU, ANYTIME YOU DO A RETIREE COLA, YOU CAN EITHER PRE-FUND IT, WHICH MEANS WE JUST PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING UP FRONT, OR YOU CAN BASICALLY FINANCE IT WHERE THEY INCREASE YOUR REQUIRED RATE THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY IN AND IT TAKES 15 YEARS TO PAY THAT OFF.

SO WE JUST NOW GOT THE LAST ONE PAID OFF FROM 2009.

SO, UM, THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF COLAS YOU CAN DO FOR RETIREES.

THERE'S CPIS, SO IT'S MORE BASED ON INFLATION.

UM, A 10% CPI YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OVER 1.3 MILLION IF YOU WERE TO DO A HUNDRED PERCENT CPI.

UM, I JUST DID.

I HAVE OTHER ONES IN THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GO FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER $16 MILLION.

NEXT, I WILL JUST FOR, JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, LOOKING TO RETIRE.

I WILL BE PRESENTING AN ENHANCEMENT TO OUR RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE TO TRY TO INCLUDE, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE RETIRED, WHO ARE 20, HAVE 25 YEARS WITH THE COUNTY.

I HAVE SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BECKY.

THANK YOU.

ON ITEM

[I.B. Discussion/Presentation on Departments 551 and 552 Constable Precincts #1 and #2 budget requests. (Ray Wright / Joe Harris / Judge Deen)]

B, DISCUSS PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 5, 5, 1.

MR. CONSTABLE, UH, PRECINCTS ONE MORNING GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING, MORNING.

UH, I'M READY TO WRITE TALK HERE ABOUT PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

UH, A LOT OF MY BUDGET, UH, JUST INCREASED A LITTLE BIT BY 5%.

SOMETHING ON THAT, ON GENERAL LINES GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET, WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.

HOWEVER, I, THE BIGGER ITEMS I WILL BE REQUESTING THIS YEAR, I'LL BE REQUESTING A NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE, UH, WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $116,254.

THAT IS, THINK I CAN READ THAT .

UH, AND UH, THAT, UH, THAT'D BE THE SALARY OF 6 5 3 42, WHICH IS THE STARTING SALARY OF A DEPUTY ON THE CHART WE USE EVERY YEAR.

LITTLE JUSTIFICATIONS, UH, FOR THE NEW OFFICER FOR THINGS WILL BE OF INTEREST FOR YOU.

UH, THIS OFFICER WILL BE CROSS-TRAINED.

HE'LL BE CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL AS ENVIRONMENTAL IS A BIG PART OF OUR OPERATION.

UH, LIKE, UH, THIS PAST SIX MONTHS, JANUARY ONE THROUGH JUNE 30TH, UH, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HAS FILED 190 ENVIRONMENTAL CASES.

UH, PRECINCT ONE WAS 129.

OF THOSE PRECINCT FOUR WAS 61.

WE HAD DAVE ISSUED 48 CITATIONS, AND THEY HAVE CLEARED 81 CASES IN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD FROM COMPLIANCE.

WE CONTACT 'EM, NOTIFIED 'EM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, THEY CLEANED IT UP.

SO 81 OF THOSE HAVE CLEARED THAT IN CONSEQUENCES.

THEY'VE CLEANED UP THE PROBLEM AND AT THIS POINT WE STILL HAVE 61 ACTIVE CASES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

IS THAT ALL PRECINCT ONE OR IS THAT ONE AND FOUR? THAT'S ONE AND FOUR.

THE DIFFERENCE.

ONE HAD 129 CASES, FOUR HAD 61 IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.

FOUR HAD 61.

YES, SIR.

I THOUGHT THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OVER THERE.

YES, SIR.

ABOUT HALF.

SO, UM, YEAH.

ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE IN COURT A LOT, WHICH WE USED TO NOT BE.

WE ARE IN COURT QUITE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, THESE CASES GETTING SOLVED, GETTING 'EM, RESTORATION.

AND THESE DO NOT COUNT THE WALK-INS THE EMAILS AND, YOU KNOW, PHONE CALLS THAT THEY TAKE.

UH, PROBABLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER THAT TAKES MUCH OF THEIR TIME.

UH, UNLIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE THEY HAVE DEPUTIES THAT GOES OUT AND TAKES THEIR CALLS AND THEN TURNS IT OVER TO INVESTIGATORS TO MAKE THE CASES.

ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, THEY, THEY START THE CASE.

AND AS LANNY WOULD REVERT, WE GAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.

UH, THEY START IT, THEY DO ALL THE INVESTIGATIONS, THEY FILE ALL THE PAPERWORK, AND THEY DO ALL THE COURT STUFF.

SO IT, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING DEAL FOR THEM.

UM, ALONG WITH THAT, UM, WE'VE SERVED OVER 500 PAPERS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS THIS YEAR.

AND THERE AGAIN, PROBLEM WITH THOSE IS, UH, YOU CAN CHANNEL AT LEAST TWO, THREE TIMES GOING TO THE HOUSE.

LIKE I SAY, WE GOT 560 PAPERS SERVED.

IT TOOK US 1,044 TRIPS TO THE HOUSES TO

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GET THAT DONE.

THAT'S TIME CONSUMING.

UH, WE'VE DONE 28 RITZ POSSESSION.

THAT'S WHERE WE GO IN AND SIT AND WAIT FOR 'EM TO CLEAN OUT A HOUSE OF AN EVICTION.

UH, THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY LAST ANYWHERE FROM AN HOUR OR TWO TO, WE'VE HAD 'EM LAST UP TO 23 HOURS ONE TIME.

AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES IT'S SIX, SEVEN HOURS AND THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHAT TAKES UP ALL OUR TIME.

THAT'S SHORT TIME.

BEEN IN COURT, 72 DAYS.

THIS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, SO WE'RE STAYING PRETTY BUSY.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY JUSTIFICATION ON THE NEW DEPUTY.

UH, I NEED TWO NEW TRUCKS.

ONE FOR THE NEW OFFICER, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, THAT'LL BE COMING IN TOTAL ON THAT BE $80,000.

THAT INCLUDES THE RIGGING OUT OF THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, RADIOS, AND, UH, THE VEHICLE.

SO, UM, THE OUT OUTFITTING IS 88,125 NEW VEHICLES, UH, 60 2003 21.

AND THE RADIO IS, UH, 99 $9,642.

RADIOS ARE OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH, BUT WE GOTTA HAVE THOSE AS WELL.

ALSO, I'VE GOT A 17 CHEVROLET TRUCK THAT I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE I CAME INTO OFFICE.

IT'S GOT OVER A THOUSAND MILES, A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES ON IT AND STARTED HAVING SOME PROBLEMS. I'D LIKE TO REPLACE IT.

UM, PRICE WOULD BE THE SAME ON THE TRUCK, BUT IT'D BE A $70,000 COMPLETE DEAL.

'CAUSE I DO NOT NEED A RADIO ALREADY, ALREADY HAVE A RADIO TO PUT IN THE TRUCK.

SO THAT'S SAME $10,000 THERE.

UH, I NEED A BALLISTIC CARRIER, BALLISTIC VEST AND CARRIER $1,300.

SO THAT IS THE BASIS WHAT I NEED AS FAR AS A NEW DEPUTY THAT KIND OF COVERS EVERYTHING HE NEEDS.

WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEAL.

YES, SIR.

WHEN THEY PUT ALL THEM CASES TOGETHER AND TAKE IT TO WHO, DO THEY TAKE IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR, UH, THEY TAKE IT TO THE COURT, WHETHER IT BE JP ONE OR JP FOUR, DO THEY GET PROSECUTED OR DO THEY JUST, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO COURT? SOME, SOME OF THEY GET DISMISSED.

NO, SOME OF 'EM, WELL, IT JUST DEPENDS.

LIKE ANY CRIMINAL TRIAL, SOME GET DISMISSED, SOME GET TRIED AND HEARD, SOME GET PUT UP.

WELL, THEY NEED TO GET PROSECUTED.

YES, SIR.

MAY MAKE 'EM CLEAN UP STUFF.

ONCE, ONCE WE GET THERE, IT'S KIND OF PAST OUR HANDS AND WE PRESENT THE CASE.

WELL, I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

DOES, DO THESE JUDGES MAKE 'EM DO SOMETHING? YES, SIR.

MOST OF 'EM DO.

AND AND AS YOU CAN TELL, MOST OF OURS ARE DONE BY COMPLIANCE BEFORE THEY EVER GET TO COURT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME EVEN ON THAT.

BUT THE NUMBER OF, OF, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANCES, YOU KNOW, 81 OUT A HUNDRED, THAT'S HALF HALF OF WHAT WE DO IS DONE STRICTLY BY COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S, THAT'S RECEIVING A LETTER, CERTIFIED LETTER IN THE MAIL, CLEAN UP YOUR, UH, TRASH OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN FROM THAT IT'S BEING DONE.

THE WAY WE OPERATE THAT IS ONCE THAT LETTER'S RECEIVED AND THESE PEOPLE CONTACT, AS LONG AS THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON CLEANING UP THEIR RESIDENCE OR BUSINESS, WHATEVER WE MIGHT DEAL WITH, ONCE THEY START THAT PROGRESS, THEY CITATIONS ARE NOT ISSUED.

ONCE THEY STOP AND THEY QUIT AND DON'T GO FURTHER, THAT'S WHEN THE CITATIONS ISSUED.

SO WE'RE HAVING REAL GOOD LUCK ON COMPLIANCE TOO.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

UM, ANOTHER INTEREST THING, I GOT ANOTHER INTERESTING DEAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE MY ADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE SALARY BY, UH, $1,305.

THE REASON BEING FOR THAT IS, UH, THE GIRL I HAVE IS MY ADMINIS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

I HIRED FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, BACK LAST SPRING.

UH, SHE STARTED AT THE LISTED SALARY THEN SHE IS A 20 YEAR EMPLOYEE OF PARKER COUNTY.

UH, SHE'D BEEN WORKING FOR COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS PRIOR TO ME HIRING HER.

AND WE STARTED HER BACK AT A NEW HIRE SALARY TYPE DEALS.

SO I'D LIKE TO BRING HER UP TO HER SALARY, UP TO, UM, WHERE SHE WAS, NOTHING, YOU KNOW, NOT COUNTING ANY CALLS SHE MIGHT GET TO SHERIFF.

I BRING HER BACK TO HER, HER HER SALARY SHE MADE TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH WAS 56 9 64 RATHER THAN 55 6 61 THAT I PLAY.

UM, WE HAD, UH, IT VISIT US LIKE EVERYBODY I GUESS THIS YEAR AND MADE A SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT WE NEEDED.

UH, WE HAD SOME ANTIQUE INTO DESKTOP COMPUTERS, I GUESS THE WAY THEY TALK.

SO WE'RE GONNA NEED, UH, TWO DESKTOP COMPUTERS, THREE NEW MONITORS, THREE NEW LAPTOPS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED.

THEY'RE OUTDATED.

UH, TWO DOCKING STATIONS.

THAT'S FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEE.

AND, UH, DEPUTY PAGEANTS IS BROKE.

UH, AND TWO RUGGED WRAP TOPS

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TO REPLACE LANNIE AND THE NEW HIRE AND TWO SCANNERS TO REPLACE THEM, WHICH IS MINE.

AND MY CHIEF DEPUTY SCANNERS NEED TO BE REPLACED.

UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IN THOSE, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE DOLLAR FIGURE ON THAT FOR SURE.

UM, THE SCANNERS, IF MY MEMORY RIGHT COST ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE, I WOULD LIKE, AND RATHER THAN HAVING TWO SCANNERS, I'D LIKE TO GET ANOTHER COPY PRINTER TO PUT 'EM IN OUR OFFICE LIKE WE HAVE NOW THAT HAS SCANNING CAPABILITIES.

THAT WAY WE CAN BOTH SCAN AND DO EVERYTHING OFF OF ONE MACHINE SITTING HAND BY TWO.

WELL, THERE WON'T BE ANY MONEY LEFT FOR THEM OTHER CONSTABLES IF WE GIVE YOU ALL THIS STUFF.

THAT'S MY INTENTION, SIR.

, LIKE I SAY, THAT WAS MY BIG ITEMS. UH, IT'S ALL BROKE DOWN.

SO, UM, HAS ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? SO, SO HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? TWO DEPUTIES NOW? I HAVE THREE.

THREE.

THAT'S INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL? YES, SIR.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE TWO DEPUTY CONSTABLES AND ONE ENVIRONMENTAL GUY.

WELL, THEY'RE ALL DEPUTY CONSTABLES.

TWO OF 'EM WORK, ENVIRONMENTAL, THEY'RE ALL KIND COMBINED.

YEAH, THEY ALL KNOW EACH OTHER'S JOB.

YEAH, EVERYBODY DOES EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THAT.

BUT THEIR, THEIR BASIC DUTIES, THOSE TWO ARE ENVIRONMENTAL AND BOTH OF 'EM WORK BOTH PRECINCTS.

I'D BE WRONG TO TELL YOU.

ONE DOES ONE, ONE DOES OTHER, THEY BOTH DO BOTH PRECINCTS.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT Y'ALL HAD SERVED 560 PAPERS.

IS THAT YEAR TO DATE OR STARTING FROM LAST? YES, THAT'S THE FIRST.

THAT SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S SIX, UH, OH SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S SIX MONTHS.

JANUARY TO, TO THE END OF JUNE.

OKAY.

IF YOU TR IF YOU, IF WE COMPARED THIS TO, AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, IF YOU COMPARED THIS TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WHERE ARE YOU? WE'RE DI I DIDN'T GET MY LAST YEAR NUMBERS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

BUT THEY WERE SOMEWHERE IN THE, UH, I'M GONNA SAY SOMEWHERE IN THE 4,500 BRACKET.

SO WE'VE COME UP QUITE A BIT.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE, RAY? ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE? THANK YOU, RAY.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THIS WILL BE THEN PRECINCT TWO.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

LET'S SEE.

OKAY, CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO.

UM, I'M REQUESTING THIS YEAR, UH, BODY CAMERAS FOR OUR OFFICE.

UM, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTS THAT WE'RE DOING.

THERE'S A LOT OF THESE TIMES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO SEND TWO DEPUTIES AND TAKE ONE FEMALE PATIENT.

UH, THERE IS NO CAMERA IN THE CAR.

AND SO I'M REQUESTING THAT WE, UH, BE ABLE TO PUT A CAMERA IN THE CAR ON THE BODY THAT THE BODY CAM, YOU CAN USE IT ON THE BODY AND THEN YOU CAN ATTACH IT INSIDE THE CAR AS WELL.

SO THE QUOTE THAT Y DON'T HAVE DON'T HAVE BODY CAMERAS ALREADY? NO, SIR.

WE DO NOT.

NONE OF THE CONSTABLES HAVE BODY CAMERAS.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY ELSE HAS.

I, OUR OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE THEM.

I FIGURED, UH, EVERYBODY HAD 'EM, BUT NO SIR.

UM, THE COST ON THOSE.

UM, SO I DID GET A QUOTE FROM, UH, IT'S, UH, AXON WHO DOES THE TASERS, UM, FOR FIVE BODY CAMERAS.

THE TOTAL IS 29,000 335 10.

THEY DO BREAK THAT DOWN OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, UH, FOR ONE PAYMENT OF 58, 67 0 2 PER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS.

THAT WOULD BE A CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD'VE TO SIGN.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AMOUNT PLEASE? UH, THE TOTAL OR JUST THE ONE, THE AMOUNT PER YEAR.

UH, 5 8 6 7 0 2.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

58, 5.

THAT WOULD BE FOR FIVE? YES.

PER CAMERON.

YEAH, THAT'D BE FIVE TOTAL PER YEAR.

BUT THAT'S PER BEDROOM IS FOR ALL FIVE.

IT'S 29, 20 9,000 335, 10 FOR ALL FIVE, BUT THEY BREAK IT DOWN 5,800, UH, EACH YEAR.

UM, LET'S SEE, JOE, HOW MANY, UM, DEPUTIES YOU HAVE? UH, THERE'S FIVE.

YOU HAVE FIVE? YES, SIR.

UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO RUN THROUGH THAT, WHAT THEY DO? I CAN TELL YOU REAL QUICK, UH, THE CHIEF DEPUTY AND THEN WE HAVE A COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTY IN OUR BUILDING.

WE'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

UH, WE HAVE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPUTY, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO DEPUTIES THAT SERVE CIVIL PAPERS.

UM,

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LIKE RAY, UM, I THINK OUR SIX MONTH THIS YEAR SO FAR, WE'RE AT 1100 PAPERS.

OUT OF THOSE 1100 PAPERS.

WE'RE ON TRACK RIGHT NOW TO FINISH OUT THE YEAR AT ABOUT 3,100 ATTEMPTS ON PAPERS.

SO THAT'S ABOUT A 30% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH US.

THE PRECINCT LINES CHANGED AND THEN WE ENCROACHED OVER INTO PRECINCT FOUR SOME.

AND SO THE GROWTH THERE, UM, LET'S SEE.

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE IS STAYING THE SAME AS FAR AS MY DAY TO DAY.

UM, I DID INCREASE THE TRAVEL LINE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WRIT OF ATTACHMENTS.

UM, IF I SEND SOMEBODY OUT OF TOWN, LIKE WE HAD ONE THAT WAS GOING TO EL PASO, TWO DEPUTIES, THEN I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE HOTEL FOOD AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT AS WELL FOR THE INMATE OR THE PATIENT.

AND, UM, NOT THE HOTEL, OBVIOUSLY THEY STAY AT A LOCAL JAIL, BUT THEIR FOOD, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

IS THAT LIKE A BOLOGNA SANDWICH OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY PROVIDE IN THE JAIL.

I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE.

UM, SO I TALKED TO, UM, MR. LONG BACK HERE AND, UM, WE'VE DONE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR BUILDING BECAUSE OF OUR GROWTH.

UM, LUCKILY OUR JP HAS GIVEN US AN EXTRA CLOSET THAT WE'VE REMODELED AND TURNED THAT INTO A, A DESK AND AN OFFICE FOR A DEPUTY.

UM, HE'S GONNA HELP US OUT EVEN MORE AND, AND BUILD SOME BUILD INS FOR THE OFFICE.

UM, THE TOTAL COST ON THAT I BELIEVE WAS 5,000.

IS THAT RIGHT, MARK? THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD ME.

UM, I'VE SEEN THE CLOSETS OVER THERE IN THAT BUILDING.

YES, SIR.

THEY'RE NOT VERY BIG, BUT WELL, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING DO, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY BY DOING THAT, WE'VE FREED UP ENOUGH ROOM TO, TO MAKE A GOOD WORKSPACE FOR EVERYBODY'S.

UM, BUT I AM REQUESTING THE 5,000 BE PUT IN THERE FOR, UH, THEM TO BUILD OUR DESKS.

THEY'VE DONE A FABULOUS JOB ON THE TWO THAT THEY BUILT FOR US SO FAR.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT.

UM, ALSO, UH, WE WERE REQUESTING A SHIPPING CONTAINER TO WHERE WE COULD PUT IT DOWN AT HIS LOT ON BETHEL, UM, SO THAT WE COULD MOVE SOME OF THE STUFF WHERE WE'VE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS.

UM, WE CAN MOVE THEM TO THAT SHIPPING CONTAINER IN STORAGE.

WE'RE GONNA SHARE THAT WITH OUR JP, KIND OF LIKE Y'ALL DID UP AT, UP AT ONE.

WE'VE TRIED TO PUT IT AT OUR BUILDING.

UH, HOWEVER, INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THEY ARE NOT TOO KEEN ON US PUTTING A SHIPPING CONTAINER BEHIND OUR BUILDING.

SO I KNOW MR. LONG'S BEEN DEALING WITH THAT FOR A WHILE.

UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

MOVING ON.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE DEPUTY'S UNIFORM LINE.

UM, EVERY, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO FULL UNIFORMS THIS YEAR.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO RE INCREASE THAT FROM THE 600 TO THE 1200.

WHEN YOU SAY EVERYBODY, YOU MEAN PRECINCT TWO OR CORRECT.

ALL CORRECT.

YES.

EVERYBODY IN MY OFFICE, YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 600 PER DEPUTY.

LET'S SEE, CAN I INTERRUPT REAL QUICK? YES, SIR.

ON THE IN HERE? YES.

SO ON MY, ON OUR SHEET HERE FOR HIS BUDGET, LIKE THOSE LINE ITEMS ARE ARE BLANK, SO I CAN'T SEE WHAT, LIKE, WHAT THAT LINE ITEM FOR THE UNIFORMS LAST YEAR.

AND I'M WRITING IN WHAT HE'S SAYING THIS YEAR.

SO, UM, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO INCLUDING UNIFORMS, UM, IT'S NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BECKY WILL PULL AND BRING A FULL REPORT TO.

OKAY.

ALL.

AND IF IT'S CAPITAL AND NON CAPITAL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE, SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE ON THE FORM BECAUSE WHENEVER THE DEPARTMENT SUBMIT THE REQUEST, THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN INTEGRATED YET.

SO THESE, THESE TOTAL NUMBERS DOWN HERE, THEY THEY DO, SHE NOTATED IT.

THE YELLOW PART OF THE WAS NOT IN EXACTLY, WHICH IS CAPITAL, NON CAPITAL AND PERSONNEL.

SO WHERE IT SAYS THREE DEPUTIES, 600 EACH, THAT'S REFERRING TO THE UNIFORMS. OKAY.

83.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS REGARDING THE UNIFORM.

SO I, I WASN'T SURE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I KIND FILLED IN THE BLANKS HERE AND MY NUMBERS WERE CORRECT.

AND SO WHENEVER, UM, THE, TO AT THE VERY, UH, THE GREEN, UM, COLUMN MM-HMM.

, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCES.

AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THIS TOTAL AMOUNT REQUESTED MM-HMM.

, UM, I DIDN'T ADD THE ONE 12, UM, OR I DID ADD THE ONE 12.

SO THE TOTAL

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THAT SHOWS NEGATIVE 1 59 10.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM LAST YEAR, INCLUDING THE ONE 12.

THREE 12.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING AND GETTING THE NUMBERS RIGHT.

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, LET'S SEE.

SO, UM, I AM REQUESTING A NEW VEHICLE THIS YEAR.

UM, WE'VE HAD TO, UH, PRETTY MUCH REDO ONE OF OUR TRUCKS.

WE'VE HAD IT UP AT MR. CONLEY'S OFFICE THERE.

UM, JUST PUT IN A NEW TRANSMISSION.

UH, IT'S HAD A NEW RADIATOR, SEVERAL OTHER THINGS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY CHEVROLET THAT THAT YEAR MODEL, THE ONE WE HAVE COMING UP, IT'S MOST LIKELY AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THE TRANSMISSION WILL GO BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

WE'D LIKE TO GET A HEAD START ON IT.

UM, JUST BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU GET THE VEHICLE AND THEN GET IT OUTFITTED, YOU'RE ALREADY A YEAR INTO IT.

SO, UM, I DID GET A QUOTE ON THAT.

THE TOTAL QUOTE ON THE VEHICLE WAS 79 70 9,001 15.

AND THAT'S WITH THE OUTFITTING VEHICLE AND OUTFITTING.

AND THEN THE LAST, LET'S SEE YOU HAVE THAT.

I THOUGHT I HAD IT THIS MORNING.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT I HAD A FORM THAT SHOWED THE BREAKDOWN.

OKAY.

UM, SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I DID, UH, BRING OVER A DEPUTY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, AND YOU GUYS VOTED TO KEEP HIM AT HIS SAME SALARY AT THAT TIME.

'CAUSE I HAD ENOUGH MONEY IN MY BUDGET TO ABSORB IT AND KEEP HIM ON THE SAME SALARY.

AND WE DISCUSSED IT THAT WE WOULD BRING IT UP IN BUDGET AND THAT IT NEEDED TO BE, UH, HIS SAL THE MONEY PUT BACK IN OUR LINE 'CAUSE OF THE SALARY.

UH, HE'S ON THE STEPPING GRADE AT A 12 YEAR, UH, DEPUTY ON THE PAY SCALE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST YEAR.

AND SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF 15,902 IN THAT LINE.

AND THEN THE LAST TWO THINGS I HAVE, I BELIEVE, UM, SOFT BODY ARMOR, UH, REQUESTING REPLACEMENT ON, ON EACH, UH, DEPUTY IN THE OFFICE.

THOSE ARE, UH, 1600 A PIECE FOR FIVE FOR A TOTAL OF 8,000.

AND THEN WE WERE ASKING FOR A BALLISTIC SHIELD AT THE COST OF 16 THOU, OR 1,610 AND 90 CENTS.

THE BALLISTIC SHIELD IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE ON THE WR OF POSSESSIONS WHEN WE GO TO DO A MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE AND MAYBE SOMEBODY'S LOCKED THE DOORS OR THEY'RE HELD UP INSIDE.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO USE UTILIZE PRECINCT THREE SHIELD, UM, ON ONE OF THEM.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME EXTRA COVER WHEN WE WALK UP TO A DOOR AND, AND HAVING TO BREACH A DOOR TO, TO GET IN.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SHIELDS? WE DO.

NOT CURRENTLY, NO, SIR.

CORRECT.

CURRENTLY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? TELL MIKE.

HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIS HELP.

YES, SIR.

AND YOU'RE DOING ALL RIGHT TOO.

I GUESS I'M TRYING, SIR.

GOOD MOTIVATION SPEECH THERE.

UH, MR. COMMISSIONER, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, JOE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

LET'S

[I.C. Discussion/Presentation on Departments 553 and 554 Constable Precincts #3 and #4 budget requests. (Glen Praytor / Scott Jones / Judge Deen)]

MOVE TO ITEM C ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION DEPARTMENT'S 5, 5 3, UH, CONSTABLE'S PRECINCT THREE.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING, MORNING, MORNING.

I JUST WANT WHAT'S LEFT.

UH, MY BASIC NEEDS ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE PRIOR TO ME.

UH, I'M ASKING FOR A NEW DEPUTY THAT WOULD ASSIST IN CIVIL PAPERS AND ALSO IN ENVIRONMENTAL.

OUR ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'VE HAD OVER 10 CASES OF FELONY

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ENVIRONMENTAL DUMPING THIS PAST PHYSICAL YEAR.

WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF ABOUT 68 REPORTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL THAT'S ACTUALLY GONE BASICALLY THROUGH SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OR THROUGH TECQ OR OFF ANYBODY THAT'S, UH, COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ACTIVELY WORKING ABOUT IN THE VICINITY OF ABOUT 17.

THESE ARE SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT RAY ARE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WHEN WE GO OUT, WE BASICALLY ASSESS THE SITUATION.

WE GIVE 'EM, UH, 30 DAYS TO START DOING SOMETHING WITH THE CLEANUP.

AND, UH, WE MONITOR IT USUALLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

GO BACK EVERY WEEK AND SEE IF ANYBODY'S TRYING TO DO ANYTHING, UH, WHICH IS VERY TIME CONSUMING.

UH, WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES, UH, LET ALONE GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT, UH, I'M REQUESTING A, A DEPUTY THAT WOULD ASSIST MY ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS ASSIST WITH CIVIL PAPERS AND, UM, RID OF ATTACHMENTS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE.

ALONG WITH THAT WOULD COME ANOTHER VEHICLE.

UH, RIGHT NOW IN OUR FLEET, WE HAVE THREE TAHOES THAT WERE HANDED DOWN FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

UH, WE DID GET A NEW TAHOE LAST YEAR THAT WAS ACTUALLY RECEIVED THIS YEAR.

IT WAS ORDERED THE YEAR BEFORE.

UH, ALL OF THE THREE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND ONE OF 'EM IS OVER 200,000 MILES.

UM, THE OTHER TWO ARE LIKE 150 TO 165,000 MILES ON IT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A NEW VEHICLE.

THAT'D BE, I THINK IT'S ALL IN MY REQUEST.

UH, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I COULD USE WOULD BE, UM, ALONG WITH THE MANDATES THAT THE ACTIVE SHOOTER THAT THE GOVERNOR'S PUTTING ON US AND MORE QUALIFICATIONS, UH, MOVED MY AMMUNITION LINE FROM 18 TO 2200.

THAT WOULD BE BASED ON A NEW EMPLOYEE, UH, UNIFORM ALLOWANCE FROM 18 TO 2,400.

THAT WOULD ALSO BE BASED ON A NEW EMPLOYEE.

UH, MYSELF AND MY CHIEF DEPUTY, WE, I DON'T GET A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE, BUT HE WANTS TO STAY IN BLUE JEANS, SO HIS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME, BUT THE OTHERS WOULD BE 1200 FOR THE OTHER TWO OFFICERS THAT I HAVE NOW.

AND THE ONE ADDITIONAL THAT COULD BE, SO YOU HAVE TWO OFF.

SO YOU HAVE TWO DEPUTIES WORKING FOR YOU NOW? UH, TWO.

AND A CHIEF DEPUTY? YES, SIR.

ATTORNEY CHIEF.

AND, UH, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, UH, OF COURSE THE GASOLINE OIL, UH, INCREASED.

UH, I MOVED IT UP FROM 5,000 TO 10,000.

AND ALONG WITH THAT, OF COURSE, TIRES, I MOVED IT FROM 2222 50 TO 5,000.

UH, AND JUST KIND OF A LAST MINUTE TRAIN OF THOUGHT WAS, UH, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T RUN INTO WHAT WE HAVE RUN INTO IN THE PAST WITH DEMONSTRATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

RIGHT NOW I ONLY HAVE ONE, UH, DEPUTY RESERVE, DEPUTY CONSTABLE NON-PAID.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY PUT ON A COUPLE OF MORE POSITIONS FOR TWO MORE RESERVE DEPUTIES, WHICH THAT WOULD INCREASE MY BOND AMOUNT FROM 300 TO 400, UH, IN THE LONG RANGE KICK OF THINGS.

UH, IF WE DO GET A NEW PERSONNEL, UH, I'M NEXT TO A STORAGE ROOM AT THE ANNEX.

AND, UH, WE HAVE TALKED TO MARK AND KIND OF GOT SOME ROUGH FIGURES, WHAT IT MIGHT CAUSE TO GO IN THERE AND REMODEL IT.

BASICALLY JUST PAINTING IT AND PUT SOME SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR.

I'VE INCLUDED THAT IN MY CAPITAL CATEGORY, UH, WOULD NEED, UH, TO ALSO ADD FOR SAFETY AND PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE NEW OFFICER.

2000,

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UH, THE NEW UNIT.

AND WE WERE TOLD TO ADD SOME TO IT BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE PRICE, OF THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLE.

UH, WE CAME UP WITH 60 3003 21, UH, RADIO 8,500.

AND BASICALLY IT OUTFIT THE NEW UNIT LIGHTS, CYRENE AND ALL THE OTHER, UH, WE JUST ROUNDED OFF AT 25,000.

ONE OTHER THING I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR WOULD BE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL BUSINESS, EXCUSE ME, I'M HAVING A JOE BIDEN MOMENT, UH, WOULD BE, I'M SORRY, A DRONE.

I, AND, UH, WE HAVE RAN INTO SEVERAL SITUATIONS TO WHERE WE HAVE, DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE DUMPING, BUT IF WE HAD A DRONE, WE COULD FLY IT OVER THE AREA TO GET A, A VISUAL OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS OR DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO GO ON THAT DUMP SITE.

UH, ONE IN PARTICULAR COMES TO MIND IS, UH, RIGHT HERE AT, UH, THEY CALL IT HART CREEK, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT OFF 10 TOP AT THE, THE CREEK THAT RUNS BY BILLY KANE'S HOUSE AND THEN GOES ON IT DOWN AND CROSSES BACK OVER.

BUT WE HAD A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING IN IT.

UH, AND IT'S A HEAVILY WOODED AREA, BUT THERE'S PARTS OF THAT'S OPEN.

UH, A DRONE WOULD BE A, A HANDY TOOL.

UH, WE, MY CHIEF DEPUTY HAD ONE, BUT UH, THE BATTERIES GONE, HAD WENT BAD AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME NEW BATTERIES.

AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANT TO BUY NEW BATTERIES FOR HIS DRONES BECAUSE HE WASN'T COUNTY DRONES.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A DRONE FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, $8,000, WHICH WOULD BE A REALLY NICE DRONE WITH EXTRA BATTERIES.

I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL CALL? I'M SORRY? WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL CALL AMOUNT, YEAR TO DATE, IF, IF YOU HAVE IT? CALLS, NUMBER, NUMBER OF CALLS.

WE'RE TALKING A WHOLE BALL OF WAX.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET MY CHEATERS OUT.

YOU MENTIONED 68 ENVIRONMENTAL, WHICH IS A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER THERE.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES THERE.

BUT THIS IS OVERALL, WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL CALL? SO WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THERE, I'LL, I WANNA CALL ME AT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL.

UH, SO MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME NOW.

FROM WHAT WE HAVE, FROM WHAT WE HAD WHEN I STARTED TO, WHAT WE HAVE NOW COVERING ENVIRONMENTAL IS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS OUT HERE WHO ARE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE CALLS BECAUSE MOST OF Y'ALL RECOGNIZE THOSE CALLS COME TO YOU, THAT THEY CALL US AND SAY, HEY, THE, THE, THERE'S TRASH OVERFLOWING OVER HERE.

IT'S BLOWING OVER ONTO MY PROPERTY.

I CAN SMELL IT WHEN I DRIVE BY THERE.

NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THE TRASH FROM THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS BLOWING OVER ON MY PROPERTY FROM PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT THE SUBDIVISION THERE TO BEGIN WITH.

I GET IT.

BUT MOST OF THOSE CALLS, MOST OF THOSE CALLS COME TO US.

AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED, PRETTY MUCH WAS UP TO US TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT WHAT TO DO AND REFER IT OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THEN.

AND, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE NOW TO BE ABLE TO CALL CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND, AND THEM DO A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF INVESTIGATING COMING UP WITH THE NAME IN THAT TRASH AND BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO THAT PERSON WHO'S DUMPED THERE AND HAVING THEM REMOVE IT.

SO I'M, I WANTED TO LET GLEN KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, COMPONENT THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER, UH, AND ARE DOING EXCELLENT JOB AT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

WE, WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT REALLY TAKES, UH, HIS JOB TO HEART.

AND HE IS SO THOROUGH.

IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE, UH, DOCUMENTATION, UH, RECORDS.

UH,

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I KNOW WE HAVE SENT SEVERAL TO COUNTY COURT AND SEVERAL TO, UH, DISTRICT COURT.

AND, UH, FOR THE MOST PART THE BASIC ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, THEY JUST PAID A TICKET AND GO ON.

BUT ON THE FELONY CHARGES, UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL THAT, UH, WENT ON TO A HIGHER COURT.

I'M SHOWING THE, I I'M ASSUMING, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY FIGURES, UH, JUST BALLPARK, UM, 126,000 FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN SEVENTY EIGHT EDITION.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY, UH, CALLS BRETT, HOW MANY CALLS Y'ALL ARE MAKING, UH, ATTEMPTS TO SERVE PAPERS? UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RIDING FINE WITH, UH, FOR THE OTHERS.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'RE 2,500, YOU KNOW, THE EXPANSION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH SURE.

IN PARKER COUNTY IS GROWING PAINS AND, UH, ALL THE NEW APARTMENTS, NEW SUBDIVISIONS, NEW ROADS.

YEAH.

I THINK HE'S TRYING TO HIT AT THE NUMBER OF PAPERS SERVED, YOU KNOW, IN A SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 1100.

YEAH.

WOW.

OKAY.

AND ALONG WITH, UH, SO PROBABLY IN LINE WITH MOST OF THE OTHERS, YEAH.

WE ALL HAVE ABOUT THE SAME, I THINK NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.

YEARS AGO, WE, UH, PRECINCT THREE PROBABLY HAD THE MOST MM-HMM.

AT ONE TIME.

AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, THEIR PRECINCT ONE JUMPED UP AND STARTED HAVING MORE PAPERS THAN WE DID.

AND WE WERE, WE KIND OF FELL DOWN TO SECOND.

AND, UH, THEN NOW PRECINCT TWO HAS JUMPED UP THERE SERVING A LOT OF PAPERS.

YEP.

I WOULD SAY, UH, CONSISTENTLY WE'RE PROBABLY AT LEAST THREE, UH, CONSISTENTLY.

AND IT, IT FLUCTUATES FROM MY, MY, YEAH.

OKAY.

NO, IT JUST GIVES A GOOD GAUGE.

JUST, JUST, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY BACK WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEAL THAT YOU HAD A FORMER ENVIRONMENTAL GUY THAT DID A GREAT JOB TOO.

I KNOW HE'S MOVED ON TO A HIGHER OFFICE NOW, BUT, BUT, UH, HE REALLY, REALLY, UH, NOT THAT, NOT THAT, UH, ROY'S NOT DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT BRAD DID A, A FANTASTIC JOB.

I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THAT, THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CALLS.

SO TO CLARIFY, HERE ON, ON YOUR VEHICLES, YOU HAVE THREE, ONE IS AT 200, AND THEN THE OTHER OVER 150.

WE HAVE TWO OLD TILES THAT WE GOT FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

ONE HAS ABOUT 150 AND THE OTHER'S RIGHT.

AT 200.

THEN WE HAVE TWO PICKUP TRUCKS AND THEN A, A NEW PILE.

GOTCHA.

AND WHAT WE DID IS WE GOT A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, TAHOE, THAT HAD A BAD ENGINE, BUT IT HAD A GOOD TRANSMISSION, SWAP THE TRANSMISSION OUT OF IT TO ONE THAT HAD A BAD TRANSMISSION, SWAPPED TIRES, STOLE STUFF.

I MEAN, JUST EVERYTHING WE COULD RIG OUT A VEHICLE.

WE, WE WERE IN IT PROBABLY 500 BUCKS.

YEP.

BUT IT'S 150,000 MILE VEHICLE.

YEP.

OKAY.

IT'S, IT IS, OUR JOB IS TO TRY TO BE FAIR AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTE THE RESOURCES THAT WE GET IN, IN A FAIR MANNER.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO ASK NUMBERS THERE.

BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY, UH, THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO SOMETIMES.

AND SO EVERYTHING'S NOT EQUAL AND, AND ONE CALL MAY NOT EQUAL A CALL IN ANOTHER LOCATION IN PRECINCT THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, THEY CAN BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO SERVE AND YOU'RE WONDERING WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA SHOOT AT YOU OR NOT.

.

WELL, AND TO, UH, WE'RE BLESSED TO, I THINK WE ALL GET ALONG WELL AS FAR AS CONSTABLES.

I KNOW, UH, BETWEEN JOE AND I AND RAY, UH, WE ASSIST EACH OTHER.

UH, JUST THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD A RICH, A WRIT OF ATTACHMENT FOR A CHILD.

AND, UH, THE WOMAN ACTUALLY HAD SHOT HER.

I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS, BUT, UH, HUSBAND OR EX-HUSBAND, AND IT WAS A BAD SITUATION.

SURE.

AND WHEN WE GO OUT ON THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ALWAYS PREPARE FOR THE WORST AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE IT.

AND, UH, JOE WAS THERE TO, TO INTERCEDE IN CASE IT WENT BAD.

AND, AND, AND WE DO THAT FOR ONE ANOTHER.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO.

BUT, UH, YEAH, I'M, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE NOW COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD Y'ALL'S SUPPORT AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, BACK TO SHARING THE ANTIFA RIGHTS AND STUFF.

WE WERE HERE FOR THAT.

UH, AND, AND

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THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB.

OUR JOB IS NOT FROM EIGHT TO FIVE.

BRAD'S JOB IN MIND IS ANYTIME WE GET A CALL, WE GO.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR GLEN? THANK YOU, GLEN.

YES, SIR.

I HOPE I DIDN'T CONFUSE Y'ALL TOO MUCH.

NO, NO, WE GOT IT.

VERY, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

WELCOME.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MY PLAN OF COMING IN AND TELL YOU WE'RE SO HAPPY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS SEEM TO BE PLEASED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING HAS BEEN AVERTED BECAUSE, UH, KAYLEE SAYS WE NEED A COUPLE OF COMPUTERS.

AND I'LL LET HER SPEAK TO THAT IF SHE WANTS TO.

BUT, UH, SO I GUESS WE'RE ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF COMPUTERS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THAT'S IT.

WE'RE GOOD MAN.

WE'RE GOOD.

.

THANKS.

THAT, THAT'S IT.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU SCOTT.

MORE LIKE SCOTT, WE MIGHT GET OUTTA HERE BY FIVE OR SIX O'CLOCK THIS EVENING.

PRECINCT FOUR.

GOOD ITEM DEED.

DISCUSSION.

PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 7 6, DISTRICT ATTORNEY BUDGET REQUEST.

UH, WE HAVE

[I.D. Discussion/Presentation on Department 476 District Attorney budget requests. (Jeff Swain / Judge Deen)]

OUR ILLUSTRIOUS DISTRICT ATTORNEY, JEFF SWAIN.

WELCOME.

IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW THAT LAST ONE.

I, I'M GONNA GET CLOSE.

I'M, I'M, I'M, I THINK I'M GONNA GET CLOSE, SO, WELL HOPEFULLY YOU ONLY NEED ONE COMPUTER, HUH? HOPEFULLY YOU ONLY NEED ONE COMPUTER, .

EXACTLY.

I DON'T, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY COMPUTERS IN OURS, SO .

SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, NEW THAT'S OF CONSEQUENCE.

YOU, YOU WILL NOTICE AN INCREASE IN OUR CONTRACT SERVICES LINE ITEM.

UH, THAT'S THE OTHER 36,000 FROM THE, UH, $72,000 EXPENDITURE THAT Y'ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR, UH, OUR ONLINE DISCOVERY PORTAL FOR OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN JUVENILE PROBATION, AS Y'ALL RECALL.

WE, UH, WE AGREED TO PAY FOR HALF OF THAT THE FIRST YEAR OUT OF OUR ASSET FORFEITURE FUND.

AND, AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE IN THERE FUNDING THE REMAINDER OF THAT.

AND JUST KIND OF A SHORT UPDATE ON THAT, LIKE SUPER SHORT.

WE'RE IN BASICALLY WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL BETA TESTING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S TAKEN US A LOT OF UPFRONT TIME, I THINK MORE THAN I ANTICIPATED TO GET THAT GOING.

UM, WE ARE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT TO GET COOPERATION FROM TYLER TECHNOLOGIES WHO WE NEED TO BASICALLY HAVE SHARE WITH, UH, WITH THE, THE ONLINE DISCOVERY PORTAL, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON THOSE CASES, UM, FROM A, UH, CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PERSPECTIVE.

UH, BUT BY AND LARGE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING SOME TRACTION ON THAT AND HOPEFUL WE'LL GET THAT UP AND RUNNING.

BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE LIKE A $600 INCREASE IN OUR TELEPHONE LINE ITEM.

I KNOW GENERALLY WE DO PHONE ALLOWANCES.

UM, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE A, AN ACTUAL PHONE FOR OUR VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR, UM, WHICH, WHICH WE CALL THE VAC PHONE, WHICH I KIND OF LOVE.

UM, ANYWAY.

SO, UM, THAT WAY IF WE HAVE, UH, OUR VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR OUT AND SHE IS PREGNANT AND WE ANTICIPATE HER BEING OUT, UM, WE CAN JUST PASS THAT PHONE.

AND THE ABILITY TO TEXT OUR VICTIMS, MOST OF WHOM FUNCTION IN A WORLD OF TEXTING AND NOT PHONE CALLS ANYWAY, UH, TO HER, UH, TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT.

UM, WE DO HAVE BULLETPROOF VESTS IN THERE.

THAT'S AN EVERY SO OFTEN WHEN THEY EXPIRE KIND OF BASIS.

SO WE PUT THAT BACK IN THERE THIS YEAR.

AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING WE HAVE IS JUST CONTINGENCY LINES FOR OFFICE FURNITURE AND ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE IN THERE, JUST IN CASE STUFF BREAKS.

I WILL TELL YOU, UM, KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UM, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF 9% IN INDICTMENTS YEAR OVER YEAR.

UM, WHICH I THINK IS A LITTLE CONCERNING.

I'M, I'M KIND OF KEEPING AN EYE ON IT, NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING NEW ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, HOPEFULLY IT'S AN ANOMALY.

IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY.

IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CASES.

UM, BUT WE WILL KEEP THE COURT APPRISED TO THAT GOING FORWARD IN THE EVENT WE NEED SOMETHING IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS OR WHATEVER.

SO COULD YOU, AT ATTRIBUTE, COULD YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO GROWTH? JUST SIMPLE POPULATION INCREASE? I THINK A GOOD CHUNK OF IT PROBABLY IS GROWTH.

UM, YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE A BATCH OF CASES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SOLVES AND THEY END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

AND, AND SO SOMETIMES THERE'S THAT, UM, THEY TAKE DOWN A SIGNIFICANT ORGANIZATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I TELL EVERYBODY, EVERY TIME ANY AGENCY IN OUR COUNTY ADDS AN OFFICER THAT ADDS SOME FRACTION OF CASES OR CASELOAD TO OUR DOCKET BECAUSE OUR OFFICERS HERE ARE ACTIVE, THEY AREN'T REACTIVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE RUNNING CALL TO CALL, BUT THEY ACTUALLY ARE OUT THERE POLICING AS WELL, AND, AND THEY FIND CRIMINAL OFFENSES OCCURRING.

SO, UM, I, I DO THINK WE'VE HAD A RISE IN CONSTRUCTION RELATED THEFT TOO.

THAT'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT THING.

AND UM,

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I THINK IN GENERAL, THEFT IS UP.

WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COMING OVER FROM THE CORE METROPLEX COUNTIES THAT THEY'RE JUST HITTING ALL OVER.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TARGETING US.

I THINK THEY'RE TARGETING EVERYWHERE.

AND SO WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT THAN I THINK WE EVER USED TO.

AND THAT IMPACTS US EITHER WHEN THEY HIT A DOLLAR FIGURE OR MORE OFTEN WE END UP WITH ONES THAT HAVE PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND SO THEY COME OUR WAY BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO I'M KIND OF KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT THOUGH.

I'M A FEW MINUTES, FEW MINUTES LONGER, BUT NOT TOO MUCH LONGER.

Y'ALL, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? APPRECIATE THE WORK.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JEFF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JEFF.

[I.E. Discussion/Presentation on Departments 510 and 513 Building & Grounds and Southside Convenience Center budget requests. (Mark Long / Judge Deen)]

GO TO ITEM E ON DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENTS.

UH, FIVE 10.

UH, WE'LL START.

UM, COME ON UP, MARK.

MORNING BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.

MARK ALONG JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR IS I'M ASKING FOR TWO NEW TRUCKS, BOTH OF 'EM, THREEQUARTER TON, ONE OF 'EM WITH A UTILITY BED, ONE WITHOUT, UM, ONE FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN AND IN ANTICIPATION FOR THE OLD POLICE STATION COMING ONLINE.

UH, THEN I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER FULL-TIME MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN EQUIPMENT.

I NEED A BACKHOE DOWN AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND I ALSO NEED A LITTLE 30 HORSE TRACTOR DOWN THERE AS WELL FOR MOWING, KEEPING THE PLACE LOOKING DECENT.

UH, THE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS YEAR, OF COURSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, BUT WE RE RE WE NEED TO REDO THE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT COURTHOUSE.

AND THIS COURTHOUSE ALONE IS STARTING TO TURN A LITTLE BLACK AGAIN.

WE WE'RE GONNA GET IT CLEANED AND UP AGAIN.

THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER ARE ABOUT 330,000.

SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? JUST COMMENT.

UH, WE'LL HAVE MULTIPLE BUDGET OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK AGAIN RATHER THAN, UH, THAN US DOING THE GRINDING OF THE BRUSH.

I WAS GONNA ASK FOR YOU TO LOOK OUT TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT.

THE BRUSH GRINDING YES.

DOWN THERE.

HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND, AND, AND GRIND THAT FOR US RATHER THAN THE US THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT, MAINTAIN MAINTAINING THE EQUIPMENT.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

SO IF YOU COULD RESEARCH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND, AND NEXT TIME WE TALK, HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR US ABOUT WHAT SOMEONE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR.

YES.

WHEN I SUGGESTED TO MY GUYS AT OUR BARN THAT WE GET A BRUSH GRINDER, I THINK THEY ABOUT TARRED AND FEATHERED ME , AND THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH IT BREAKS DOWN.

EXPENSE MAINTENANCE, JUST, IT'S A NONSTOP HEADACHE.

THEY'RE EXTREMELY HIGH MAINTEN.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN SAID, YEAH.

WHAT'S RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT ISSUE AS WE GROW AND CONTINUE TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THEN IN TOP OF YOUR STAFF DOING THOSE THINGS, UH, THAT BECOMES THE ISSUE, I THINK WHERE WE'RE GOING.

MM-HMM.

, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S EASY TO JUST CONTRACT THOSE THINGS OUT THAT WE CAN YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THE, UH, CONVENIENCE CENTER, IT'S UH, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T GET ANY CLOSE, EVEN CLOSER BREAKING EVEN, BUT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BRUSH COMING IN AS COMMISSIONER CONLEY CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING AT HIS PLACE.

AND CURRENTLY WE DO THAT.

OUR OURSELF, WE BREAK THAT DOWN OURSELVES.

WE DO, I THINK COMMISSIONER CONLEY PROBABLY IS ABLE TO, TO BURN SOME OF HIS, ALL, ALL OF HIS, WE'VE BURNED ALL OF OURS.

YEAH.

WE'RE NOT ABLE, WE'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO DO THAT OUT.

THE, IT WON'T BE LONG, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT A, A DATED, UH, TUB GRINDER AND IT, IT, IT'S HIGH MAINTENANCE, VERY HIGH, VERY HIGH MAINTENANCE INTAKES THAT'S ON PARTS THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE LABOR.

YEAH.

THAT DOESN'T COUNT TIME AND LABOR THAT IT TAKES TO GO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS AND GET IT, GET IT OPERATIONAL.

THAT SHOULD BE A QUICK DISCUSSION ON THE FOLLOW UP SOUNDS.

YEAH, I, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

I KNOW THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD IS DOING THAT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING SOMEBODY CONTRACT.

YEAH.

MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE JUST OUT THERE ON, UH, WHITE SETTLEMENT ROAD JUST INSIDE TARRANT COUNTY.

THERE'S A BIG AREA OUT THERE THAT THEY TAKE ALL THEIR BRUSH TO.

DON'T KNOW IT'S SILVER, SILVER CREEK MATERIALS.

MAYBE IT COULD BE.

IT'S ON 1 9 9 THERE WHERE THEY TAKE IT.

THAT SILVER CREEK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

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OKAY.

UM, AS FAR ON MY, UH, REQUEST FOR A NEW MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN, THAT'S AN ANTICIPATION ON THAT OTHER BUILDING COMING UP.

UH, I MAY NOT EVEN FUND IT TILL IT COMES UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT IT TO BE THERE IN CASE THE SAME THING WITH THE CUSTODIAN.

UM, Y'ALL GOT ALL THE EXTRA, ALL THE NUMBERS ON EVERYTHING, WHAT'S GONNA COST.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MARK.

OKAY, HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

THE ONLY OTHER THING IS AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER DURING FISCAL 24, EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU TOOK THE PARTS, WE TOOK THE PART-TIME, MONEY AND TOOK IT, MADE IT A FULL-TIME POSITION.

SO THERE WAS ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL 24 TO DO THAT.

BUT WE WILL ASK THAT FOR THAT TO CONTINUE FOR FISCAL 25.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

[I.F. Discussion/Presentation on Departments 630 and 601 Permitting and 911 Addressing budget requests. (Rusty Brawner / Judge Deen)]

I MOVE TO ITEM F ON THE DISCUSSION PRESENTATION OF DEPARTMENT SIX 30.

UM, RUSTY BRONNER FIVE, UH, HOW MUCH? OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO ON ON OUR DEPARTMENT, WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT A 10 TO 11% INCREASE MINUS THE CAPITAL.

UH, WE HAVE A 2018 TRUCK WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE AND WE NEED A SCANNER FOR THE OFFICE.

AND WHAT EL OH, WE NEED, UH, SOME PAINT.

JUST KIND OF UPDATE THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT.

$10,000 WORTH OF UPDATING.

UH, KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO 2023 FISCAL YEAR WE SOLD 1,613 PERMITS.

WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE JUST A SCO LOWER.

UH, WITH THAT, WE'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN ABOUT 600,000.

I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER.

THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT IN ON PERMIT FEES.

THAT'S WHAT WE DEPOSIT INTO THE TREASURY.

OUR CASH BURN IS LESS THAN THAT.

SO WE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS MAKING DEPOSITS VERSUS WHAT WE USE.

SO, UH, AND I WOULD LIKE A, NOT AN EMPLOYEE INCREASE, BUT A PAY INCREASE FOR THE INSPECTORS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH LIKE JOHNSON AND WISE COUNTY WOULD BE ABOUT 7% ROUGHLY.

AND YOU'RE WANTING THAT OVER A REGULAR INCREASE? I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW.

THE REGULAR INCREASE IS WE DO AN INCREASE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REGULAR INCREASE WOULD BE.

SO IT WOULD NO, THAT WOULD BE, NO.

SO IF Y'ALL WERE, IF THEY WERE GONNA DO A THREE OR FOUR THEN THAT, THEN THAT WOULD REDUCE.

YEAH.

SO, AND AS FAR AS TIRES, WE UPPED IT A LITTLE BIT JUST FOR INFLATION.

GAS IS THE SAME THING.

WE UPPED IT A LITTLE BIT FOR INFLATION, UH, AND TRAINING AND SEMINARS.

WE UPPED THAT BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN OUR OFFICE WILL BE A TRAINED INSPECTOR AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

SO THAT WAY WHEN PEOPLE CALL IN, THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY NECESSARILY WON'T BE IN THE FIELD, THEY WILL BE TRAINED.

AND AS FAR AS THE OFFICE PERSONNEL, JUST LET, KINDA LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO BEFORE I GOT HERE, Y'ALL GAVE THE OLD DIRECTOR, I BELIEVE IT WAS 50,000 TO TAKE ALL OF OUR FILES IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE FILING CABINET, PUT IT ON THE CLOUD AND DIGITIZE THAT MONEY WAS NEVER USED.

BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'RE HOW, WHERE ARE WE AT? ABOUT HALFWAY, 16,000.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST, WE BEGGED AND PLEADED AND GOT A SCANNER AND WE'RE JUST DOING IT OURSELVES.

I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MONEY THAT WE SAVED.

WE, WE NEVER USED IT AND WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE STAFF IS DOING IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RUSTY? YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

UM, I KNOW RUSTY CALLS ME A LOT AND GOES, WELL I'VE GOT THIS PERSON MAD AT ME.

AND NOT ONCE HAVE I, UH, COME ACROSS A SITUATION WHERE I DIDN'T THINK YOU DID ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THERE IS SOMETHING I KIND OF GOES WITH BUDGET, OUR PERMIT, HE ALSO ALWAYS ADDS ONTO IT LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

WE HAVE, OUR PERMIT FEE RIGHT NOW IS $400.

MM-HMM.

.

WE ARE THE

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CHEAPEST COUNTY AROUND THE, THE NEXT LOWEST COUNTY IS 460.

DIDN'T WE RAISE THAT LAST YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE? YEAR BEFORE, YES.

YEAR BEFORE.

IF WE GO TO THE MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, WISE COUNTY'S FIVE 60, IF WE GO JUST THAT FOUR 60, THAT WOULD MORE THAN COVER WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

WE WOULD ACTUALLY STILL BE A CONTRIBUTOR.

BRING IT TO US.

IS THAT INCLUDING YOUR CAP? YES.

SO YOUR TOTAL REQUESTED BUDGET INCREASE WOULD BE COVERED BY US GOING TO THE NEXT LOWEST PERMIT FEE AMOUNT? THAT IS CORRECT.

MAY WITH A CAVEAT THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT 16 TO 1700 PERMIT SALES PER YEAR.

I THINK WE CAN.

OKAY.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, OUR CASH BURN RIGHT NOW IS $42,000 A MONTH.

WE GENERALLY DEPOSIT 45.

THAT'S REAL WORLD NUMBERS OF WHAT WE DO IN OUR OFFICE.

I'M SURE WE COLLECTED 3 96 AND THEN A PORTION OF THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT THAT, THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN OUR, OUR, UH, THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET.

I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROJECTED REVENUE.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY HAD TO LOWER THAT LINE IN THE LAST YEAH.

FROM, BECAUSE WE WERE AT 2200 GONE DOWN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO MY REQUEST TO YOU WOULD BE, COULD YOU COME BACK TO US WHEN WE CIRCLE UP AGAIN WITH A LIST OF WHAT, 'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED WISE MM-HMM.

WISE IS A FOUR LETTER WORD SOMETIMES.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, COULD YOU COME BACK TO US WITH LIKE WHAT JOHNSON PAL.

PENTA JACK KAUFMAN.

SO THOSE, THOSE COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO US, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT RIGHT BY US GEOGRAPHICALLY WITH WHAT THEIR FEES ARE.

YEAH.

AND THIS SHOWS, UH, A TC IS AUTHORIZATION, THE SIR PERMIT.

THOSE ARE THE PERMITS THAT WE SOLD AND THAT GOT APPROVED.

SO OUR NEXT CLOSEST COUNTY AS FAR AS PERMITS SOLD WILL BE MONTGOMERY.

AND JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT DOES, MONTGOMERY COUNTY'S RUNNING 22 EMPLOYEES PLUS A, A COMPLETE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, AND, AND AS COMMISSIONER HOL MENTIONED, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ON THE PERMIT FEE.

DO WE NEED TO, IT'S GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT.

DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR, I ASSUME WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON THIS TODAY OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO CHANGE THAT, BUT I ASSUME WE ALSO DON'T NEED TO WAIT FOR A NEW BUDGET YEAR TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. BRONER COULD COME BACK TO US IN A REGULAR COURT SESSION.

I THINK SO TOO.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS TO LOOK AT PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

GET WITH RICH, UH, WHEREVER HE IS, HE'S NOT IN HERE, UH, TO HAVE THAT PUT ON THE AGENDA, ON THE PERMIT FEE, UH, ASSESSMENT AND JUST GET SOME, GET THAT INFORMATION AND GET, GATHER WHAT YOU CAN ON THAT AND MM-HMM, , WE CAN LOOK AT THAT QUICKLY.

YEAH.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT START.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GET TOGETHER AFTER THIS AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU RUSTY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'S 9 1 1, ISN'T IT? OKAY, SO 9 1 1 IS GONNA STAY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE $2,000 IN TRAINING.

SO THAT IS SOMEWHAT MANDATORY.

OUR PROGRAM WILL EXPIRE AND ALL SUPPORT WILL EXPIRE IN 26.

SO COG WILL GIVE US THE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE TO SEND OUR EMPLOYEES FOR TRAINING AT $2,000 A PERSON.

YEP.

SO WE'RE GONNA SEND ONE THIS YEAR AND ONE NEXT YEAR, BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT ON 9 1 1.

THEY'RE PRETTY HARD HEADED.

YOU SURE THEY'RE GONNA, I.

OKAY.

THANK YOU RESTY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, UH, SERENA AFTER LUNCH, BUT I'VE HAD EVERYBODY PUSH FORWARD.

SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK WHILE SHE WALKED OVER.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT IS AFTER THAT CAN PRESENT EVERYBODY? I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE JUST KIND OF DO, DOES ANYBODY NEED TO GO TAKE A BREAK? TAKE A BREAK? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK OURSELVES.

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UM, RECORD SHOW AT 10 0 7.

WE'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK SO WE'RE NOT ALONE AT 10 24.

[I.G. Discussion/Presentation on Department 450 District Clerk budget requests. (Sharena Gilliland / Judge Deen)]

AND MOVE TO ITEM G ON DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT FOUR 50.

DISTRICT CLERK BUDGET REQUEST.

SENA, COME ON UP.

OKAY.

UM, MAYBE WE'LL SEE THAT ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING.

THANKS FOR GETTING ME IN EARLY.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, THIS YEAR FOR OUR BUDGET REQUESTS, UH, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF IN THE, ALONG THE SAME LINES AS PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, EXCEPT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.

LAST YEAR WE ASKED FOR TWO.

UM, AND THE COURT GRANTED THIS ONE AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, UH, THAT AND, UM, ARE UTILIZING, UH, THAT PERSONNEL, BUT WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THAT WE NEED AND EXPRESS OUR NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME PERSONNEL.

UM, ESSENTIALLY OUR CASE COUNTS ARE JUST GETTING HIGHER.

UM, I HAD REQUESTED A REPORT FROM THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, UM, AND THEY DO WHAT'S CALLED A WEIGHTED CASE STUDY.

I JUST GOT THIS LAST WEEK, SO I'M STILL KIND OF GOING THROUGH IT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, OUR CASE ARE INCREASING AND THE WORKLOAD IS INCREASING ON OUR JUDGES THAT WE'RE KIND OF AT THE POINT THAT PARKER COUNTY'S READY FOR A THIRD DISTRICT COURT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR A THIRD DISTRICT COURT, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS JUST THAT WE'RE BUSY AND THAT VOLUME CONTINUES TO GROW.

UM, WE'RE AT ABOUT A FIVE TO 6% INCREASE OVER PREVIOUS YEAR, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF NEW SUITS COMING IN.

SO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TAKE INTO EFFECT ALL OF THE EXTRA WORK THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

UM, WHERE WE'RE SEEING OUR BIGGEST NEED IS IN OUR CRIMINAL DEPARTMENT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

UM, THE CRIMINAL DOCKETS ARE GETTING BUSIER.

THE CLERK'S PART ON THOSE KIND OF DOCKETS, UM, INVOLVES PROCESSING THE JUDGEMENTS, UM, PROCESSING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE JAIL OR THE TDC DOING ALL OF OUR STATE REQUIRED COURTING REGARDING CRIMINAL HISTORY, UM, CASE STATISTICS.

AND ON THOSE DAYS, UM, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST OVERFLOWING WITH WORK AND HAVING TO PULL OTHER PEOPLE IN TO HELP WITH THAT.

SO THAT IS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS OF WHERE WE ARE NEEDING SOME EXTRA HELP.

UM, SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENS HAPPENED, UM, WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, UM, IS A FEDERAL LAWSUIT.

AND RIGHT NOW PARKER COUNTY AND MYSELF ARE NOT NAMED IN THIS LAWSUIT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF.

AND IT IS A SUIT BY COURTHOUSE NEWS.

UM, THEY HAVE SUED HARRIS COUNTY AND DALLAS COUNTY AND SETTLED WITH THEM.

UH, THERE ARE NOW 20 SOME ODD DISTRICT CLERKS NAMED IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN THIS SUIT.

UM, AND IT'S REGARDING E-FILING.

SO WITHOUT GETTING TOO OFF INTO NERDY CLERK WORLD AND THE DETAILS, I'LL TRY TO KIND OF KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL.

UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR NEW FILINGS COME IN THROUGH A PORTAL CALLED E-FILE TEXAS.

WE ACCEPT THAT IN THAT COMES INTO OUR CASE MANAGEMENT.

WE DO OUR THING, A COPY IS THEN HOUSED ON THE STATE'S WEBSITE CALLED RESEARCH TEXAS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GO AND GET COPIES, ET CETERA.

COURTHOUSE NEWS, UM, WANTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO NEW SUITS THAT ARE FILED, UM, ESSENTIALLY WITHIN A 24 HOUR ONE BUSINESS DAY TURNAROUND.

AND I THINK THIS IS WHY WE ARE NOT NAMED IN THE SUIT, IS THAT WE HAVE REALLY EMPHASIZED WORKING THOSE FILINGS COMING IN AND MAKING SURE THEY GET DONE.

UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T, UM, PREVENT BEING SUED IF, IF THEY EXPAND THEIR LAWSUIT.

UM, BUT KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO THIS, WHAT WE'RE NOW DOING IS WE ARE HAVING A CLERK ON THE WEEKENDS, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, CHECK FOR NEW SUITS THAT ARE FILED AND GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THOSE IN BY ACCEPTING THOSE IN, UM, THAT COPY IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE NEWS THAT ARE SAYING, HEY, UH, WE OPERATE ON TIMELY INFORMATION, WE NEED IT AS SOON AS IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, THAT WE ARE SATISFYING THAT NEED.

AND WHAT THIS LAWSUIT IS ABOUT.

UM, A LOT OF THE COUNTIES THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS LAWSUIT, UM, I KNOW THEM, I'M FRIENDS WITH THEM.

UM, I KNOW THAT THEY RUN A GOOD, A REALLY GOOD OFFICE.

I THINK THE REASON THEY'RE IN THIS IS SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT GET TO THOSE FILINGS WITHIN A

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BUSINESS DAY.

AND WHAT COURTHOUSE NEWS IS ASKING FOR IS A PRESS QUEUE THAT ESSENTIALLY BEFORE IT EVEN BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD, BEFORE THE CLERK EVEN ACCEPTS IT, THEY CAN LOOK AT IT.

THAT MAY BE OUR REALITY SOMEDAY, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO DEPLOY SOME PERSONNEL IN A LIMITED FUNCTION ON THE WEEKENDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING NEW, FILE THEM WITHIN 24 HOURS.

SO, UM, WE'VE ONLY BEEN DOING THAT A VERY SHORT TIME, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING, UM, BALANCE, UH, IN HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF WEEKEND WORK AND TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OFF DURING THE WEEK.

UM, SO THAT IS A VERY FAST THROW IN A LOT OF INFORMATION AT YOU.

UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, REALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON IN OUR OFFICE IS THAT WE JUST NEED MORE HANDS.

HOW ABOUT THE, THE PASSPORT BILL? YES, SIR.

ARE YOU STILL, ARE WE GETTING MORE EVERY YEAR OR IS IT THIS YEAR? THIS WOULD'VE BEEN DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, HONESTLY.

UM, LAST YEAR I THINK WAS A HUGE YEAR KIND OF ACROSS THE NATION.

UM, THE STATE DEPARTMENT WON'T GIVE US A LOT OF STATISTICS, BUT IT SEEMS AS IF THEY HAVE HIRED MORE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE PROCESSING THINGS FASTER.

UM, LAST YEAR COMING OUT OF COVID, UM, IT WAS, I KNOW THAT PARKER COUNTY WAS WELL DONE WITH COVID WELL BEFORE 20 22, 20 23.

UM, BUT THERE WERE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT KIND OF, OH WAIT, WE NEED OUR PASSPORT.

HADN'T USED THAT IN A WHILE.

WE ARE STILL BUSY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING.

UM, SO IT'S STILL GOING REALLY STRONG.

OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THE PASSPORT SERVICE IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DIRECTLY LINKED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMY, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NATION AS FAR AS SECURITY POLITICAL CONCERNED.

YEAH.

AND SO I THINK WHEN TIMES ARE GOOD, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY BUSY.

AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCERNED, THAT'S GONNA BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT.

BUT YOU'RE STILL BUSY? OH, YES SIR.

YES, SIR.

UM, LAST YEAR, GROSS, WE GROSSED JUST SHY OF $200,000.

UM, I THINK THIS YEAR WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE IN ABOUT THE 180,000 RANGE.

SO STILL, STILL RESPECTABLE, STILL VERY BUSY.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GETTING COMPLIMENTS.

I STILL GET SOME PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS THAT SAY, HEY, WE HAD VERY LITTLE WAITING.

UM, YOUR FOLKS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY GOT US IN OUT OF THERE.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND, AND DO WELL WITH THAT.

WHAT WAS THE, WE GAVE YOU A NEW EMPLOYEE LAST YEAR.

YES.

WHAT WAS THAT EMPLOYEE USED FOR? WE, UM, PUT THAT PERSON IN JURY.

OKAY.

SO NOW I HAVE TWO FULL-TIME JURY CLERKS.

UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE DO ALL OF THE SUMMONS FOR ALL OF THE COURTS, INCLUDING JPS IN THE COUNTY.

UM, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A CENTRAL JURY, WE GO TO THOSE COURTS WHEN THEY HAVE A TRIAL AND WE CHECK IN ALL OF THEIR JURORS.

UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THEIR JURORS QUESTIONS AND EXEMPTIONS, DISQUALIFICATIONS.

UM, IT'S NOT TO CROWD OUT OTHER OFFICES, BUT WHEN THEY DON'T GET IN THE SYSTEM AND DO JURY EVERY DAY, IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND EASIER ON THEIR STAFF FOR US TO JUST GO DO THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO THE OFFICE.

BOTH OF OUR JURY FOLKS, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF JURY IS A EBB AND FLOW WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING ACTUAL JURY INTAKE.

UH, THEY'RE HELPING WITH PASSPORTS AND THEY'RE ALSO DOING SOME BACKUP IN OUR CIVIL AND CRIMINAL DEPARTMENTS.

THANK YOU.

SO, SO ON HOW MANY CHIEF DEPUTIES DO YOU HAVE? I HAVE ONE CHIEF DEPUTY.

OKAY.

AND THEN I HAVE THREE SUPERVISORS, UM, ONE FOR CIVIL, ONE FOR PASSPORTS, AND ONE FOR JURY.

AND THEN WE HAVE AN OFFICE MANAGER, UM, WHO DOES ALL OF OUR, UM, REPORTING TO THE TREASURER AND THE AUDITOR OF FEES OF OFFICE, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR PURCHASE ORDERS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WOULD THE SUPERVISORS BE THE DEPUTIES ON THIS SHEET? YEAH, I MEAN, THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS DEPUTIES ON THAT SHEET.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A SEPARATE LINE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THERE WE GO.

UM, SO IF CHIEF DEPUTIES AND FIRST ASSISTANTS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE ALL IN THAT LINE? THE SUPERVISORS ARE IN THE CHIEF, YEAH.

THE ONES I JUST MENTIONED.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE DEPUTIES? UM, YES, THAT'S OUR REMAINING STAFF.

YEAH, I GET THAT WOULD BE, SO HOW MANY TOTAL THAT WE HAVE A, I HAVE A TOTAL OF 16 EMPLOYEES.

OKAY.

AND SO I'VE GOT FIVE IN THAT LINE WITH CHIEF DEPUTIES, FIRST ASSISTANT, ET CETERA, AND THEN 11 UNDER DEPUTIES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SORRY, I WAS GETTING ALL THAT A LITTLE CONFUSED.

I APOLOGIZE.

NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE A TOTAL.

YES,

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PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO I'M A FAST TALKER, I APOLOGIZE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

NO, YOU COVERED IT.

WELL ANSWER ANYTHING.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SARENA? THANK YOU, SARINA.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MEDICAL EXAMINE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP? YES, SIR.

DOWN THERE ON THE NEW EMPLOYEE AT THE BOTTOM, UH, DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BECKY.

OVER EXTENSION.

WE GOT A NEW AUDIENCE SINCE THE LAST TIME I MADE THIS SPEECH, BUT THE REASON WE'RE NOT ASKING QUESTIONS 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE, WE ABSOLUTELY WON'T FIND OUT UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS FROM NOW WHEN THEY GET THE, UH, CERTIFIED TAX APPRAISED ROLES IN PLACE.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE WINNING AND LOSING OR SAME AS WE WERE LAST YEAR.

AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

SO WE'RE HEARING YOUR REQUEST NOW AND THEN WE'LL LET SEE WHERE WE STAND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY ASK FOR YOU TO BE BACK IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR SEND QUESTIONS OUT TO YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

WE'LL,

[I.J. Discussion/Presentation on Department 474 Medical Examiner budget requests. (Traci Bennett / Judge Deen)]

GOOD.

ADAM, JAY ON DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 4 74 MEDICAL EXAMINER BUDGET REQUEST.

UH, TRACY, IF YOU WOULD COME UP MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M HERE TO ASK, UM, OUR REQUEST BASICALLY TWO INVESTIGATORS, UH, AND A CLERK'S POSITION AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED OBVIOUSLY THE, THE TWO TRUCKS IF WE GOT THAT.

UM, WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH, WE'RE SEEING A, A RISE IN CASES AND EVERYTHING.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, JUST WE CALCULATED THE MONTH OF THIS YEAR SO FAR, WE ARE ALREADY AT LIKE ALMOST 70 CASES AHEAD OF LAST YEAR AND WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 75 CASES ADDITIONAL EACH YEAR.

UH, WE WILL PROBABLY HIT CLOSE TO A THOUSAND IF NOT MORE THIS YEAR.

AND DECEASED PEOPLE, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OVER AND FIVE YEARS AGO IT WAS LIKE 680.

AND WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF IT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING.

WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF MULTIPLE DEATHS.

WE NOTICE THAT SINCE THE END OF LAST YEAR, IT'S NOT, WHEN WE GO TO MVCS, IT'S USUALLY JUST ONE PERSON.

NOW WE'RE SEEING THIS MULTIPLE, LIKE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE IN A MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISION.

UH, CAN'T SAY WHAT THAT'S DUE TO.

I DUNNO IF IT'S HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC OR WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT WE ARE SEEING A RISE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE PLANE CRASHES ALL THE TIME, BUT WE DID WORK ON THE, THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

UM, AND WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S EVERY, I NEED EVERYBODY.

IT'S LIKE WE'RE THERE FOR LIKE, SOMETIMES WE WORK 26 HOURS ON THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE ON SCENE, WE'RE ALL THERE DOING EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO AND PICK UP PARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE'RE ALL COMING BACK AND WORKING ON THE OFFICE STUFF AND THE REPORTS BECAUSE THEY'RE CALLED COMPANION CASES, WHICH YOU HAVE ONE MORE THAN ONE PERSON.

AND WHEN I HAD THAT, THAT HAPPENS, THAT DOESN'T STOP FROM OTHER PEOPLE PASSING AWAY, OTHER AGENCIES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR WHETHER FOR PD OR ALE NEEDING US.

SO THAT MEANS I HAVE TO PULL SOMEBODY FROM A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT THAT THIS HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT IN OUR LINE OF WORK IT'S FEAST OR FAMINE.

I MEAN LIKE, LIKE LAST NIGHT I GOT TO BED AT FIVE 30 THIS MORNING, BUT YOU KNOW, I STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO TODAY AND I'M HERE AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE GIRL'S ON CALL NOW AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THEY'RE WORKING 24, INITIALLY THEY'RE WORKING 24 ON AND 48 OFF, BUT TO COVER A VACATION OR TAKING TIME OFF, MOST OF US, WE JUST LOSE OUR HOLIDAY PAY 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF US TO GO AROUND AND TAKE THAT OFF, WHICH IS, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

BUT, UM, WE JUST KIND OF FILL IN HERE AND THERE.

LIKE I'LL FILL IN FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE OFF VACATION OR SOME OF THE GIRLS, THEY'LL TAKE, UM, SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHIFT.

SO SOMETIMES WE MAKE WORK 72 HOURS, YOU KNOW, BE ON CALL 72 HOURS STRAIGHT.

BUT WE'RE DOING IT SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR TIME OFF AND EVERYTHING.

AND WITH AN ADDITIONAL, UH, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATORS, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO IT WHERE ONE PERSON WAS ON CALL FOR 24 HOURS AND THEN LET'S SAY YOU TAKE THE FOURTH OR FIFTH PERSON, THE INVESTIGATOR, THAT THAT LAST PERSON WOULD BE A BACKUP FOR THE OTHER PERSON WHEN WE GET REALLY BUSY.

BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD CALLS LIKE LAST NIGHT, WE HAD THREE MEDICAL EXAMINATION, UH, CALLS AND THEN A COUPLE HOSPICE HOSPITAL ARE NOT

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AS BIG DEAL.

BUT WE, WHEN WE HAVE, UM, LIKE CASES WHERE IT'S A MVC, A MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISION OR UH, A MORE SERIOUS CASE.

I MEAN, WE MAY BE ON SCENE JUST ON THAT ONE CALL SIX HOURS AND THEN WE GOTTA COME DO OUR REPORTS.

AND BY STATE LAW WE HAVE EIGHT HOURS TO DO OUR REPORT.

BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER CALL COMING IN AND ANOTHER CALL COMING IN, YOU SOMEBODY'S GOTTA HELP DO THESE, GET THESE REPORTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THESE REPORTS IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO, AND SOMETIMES I'LL FILL IN AND DO WHAT I CAN, I WON'T WRITE THE REPORT FORM, BUT I'LL FILL IN THE TABS, ALL THE PERTINENT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE IT TO ME.

BUT WE KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.

BUT WHEN WE HAVE THIS FEW INVESTIGATORS WITH THE GROWTH COMING, I MEAN WE REALLY COULD USE MORE INVESTIGATORS.

TRACY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

YES, SIR.

BUT I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU.

UM, WALK ME THROUGH WHAT YOUR REQUIREMENT IS ON THAT TIME LIMIT.

YOU SAID EIGHT HOURS TO TURN IN A REPORT.

YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHAT'S THAT FROM IS THAT STATE LAW.

THAT STATE LAW.

WE HAVE EIGHT HOURS TO GET OUR REPORTS DONE.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T FOUND THAT OUT YET.

I'M NOT JUST, I DON'T WANNA FIND THAT OUT.

SO, BUT I MEAN THAT'S WHY I MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.

LIKE IS THAT, AND SORRY FOR JUST A VERY REMEDIAL QUESTION.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S BAD IF YOU DON'T NEED THAT.

IT, IT COULD BE BAD.

YES.

I, I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.

SO WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT AFFECT LIKE MR. SWAINS JOB? THE, THE DIS THE DA LIKE IF THERE'S A FATALITY AND THEY HAVE TO PROSECUTE IT, IT IT COULD, I MEAN, BUT YOU DON'T GET YOUR REPORT DONE BECAUSE I DON'T GET EVERYTHING DONE IN, IN A MANNER.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I JUST KNOW THAT T CM OR TARRANT COUNTY HAS TOLD US THAT WE HAVE EIGHT HOURS TO GET OUR REPORT DONE.

SO WHAT THEY HAVE REQUIRED US TO DO, THIS IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS HELPING LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THE ONE GIRL THAT WAS ON CALL, SHE HAD BACK TO BACK CALLS.

AND SO WE HAD, UH, THE ME CALLS, WHICH THEY MEANS THAT THE BODY GOES TO TARRANT COUNTY.

OKAY.

A HOSPICE DOESN'T MESS IT, JUST A DOCTOR SIGNS ON THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON SCENE, YOU LOOK AT THE SCENE TIME, IT'S AN AVERAGE OF SIX HOURS ON A A, A MEDICAL EXAMINATION, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE GO, THEY GO TO CCME.

SO WE WE'RE ON SCENE BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

YEAH.

UH, PRIME EXAMPLE, WE CAN'T DE YOU KNOW, DETERMINE HOW LONG SOMETHING'S GONNA TAKE BECAUSE WE HAD ONE THE OTHER DAY WHERE THE PERSON WEIGHED IN EXCESS OF A OVER 450 POUNDS AND HE HAD TO BE CUT OUT OF A, YOU KNOW, AN RV.

SO, BUT I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAD THIS STRAIGHT IN MY HEAD AND I'M SORRY.

I'M THAT'S FINE.

UM, YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE A SHOOTING FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A SHOOTING.

DOES YOUR OFFICE HANDLE THAT IN PART? YES SIR.

WE GO TO ANY DEATH IN PARKER COUNTY.

SO SHERIFF, IF I DON'T MIND, OR IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING THIS QUESTION, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT Y'ALL'S INVESTIGATION GETS HURT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF AVAILABLE TO GO TO THAT INCIDENT? UH, THAT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFF, UH, IF WE HAVE LIKE A HOMICIDE OUT IN THE, WE WILL NOT CALL THEM UNTIL WE'RE ABOUT DONE.

GOTCHA.

UH, BUT AGAIN, SOMETIMES YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE DELAYED AND IF THEY DO GET ANOTHER CALL THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY CAN BE THERE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.

WE TRY, WE KNOW THAT, UH, THEY USED TO BE UNDER US, SO WE, WE TRY NOT TO PUT ANY MORE BURDEN ON THEM THAN, THAN NECESSARY.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, BUT YES, WE DO WORK HAND IN HAND BECAUSE I'M, I'M TRYING TO RUN THROUGH A WORST CASE SCENARIO HERE.

YOU HAVE SOME ISSUE WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STRANGE COINCIDENCE OF THREE REALLY BAD FATALITIES AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF PARKER COUNTY, UH, OR THREE REALLY BAD MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS THAT ALL HAVE FATALITIES.

YOUR STAFF IS STRETCHED PRETTY THIN AT THAT POINT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN THERE'S A SHOOTING SEVEN HOURS LATER.

AND, AND AGAIN, THIS FEAST OR FAMINE, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT DOES IT HAPPEN? YES.

I MEAN WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE, UH, WELL YOU COULD SAY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY HAD A CALL, IT'S A SUICIDE.

WELL, WHEN THEY GET ON SCENE, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB AND THEN THEY REALIZE, OH, THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE THOUGHT.

WE MAY NEED A WARRANT.

SO AT THAT MOMENT OUR, WE WERE TOLD BY TARRANT COUNTY, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO YOUR JOB AND THEY'RE STILL DOING STUFF, WE ARE TO LEAVE THE SCENE AND WAIT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY NEED US.

BECAUSE IF WE GET TIED UP ON A SCENE, WHETHER IT BE WITH WEATHERFORD PD OR ALE AND WE'RE JUST WAITING TO DO OUR JOB, BUT IF, IF ANOTHER AGENCY CALLS US A NEED US, THEY'RE HAVING TO WAIT ON US.

BUT WHAT I'M DOING IS, UH, ON, ESPECIALLY ON MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISIONS OR HOMICIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL COME OUT AND ANOTHER PERSON COME, WE'LL, WE'LL GET IN THERE AND DO IT.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S ROADWAY BLOCKAGE.

'CAUSE WE'LL JUST GO AND I, I'LL SEND A GIRL THAT'S OFF AND SHE'LL COME IN.

THEY'RE ALL GOOD ABOUT IT, UH, WHEN THE INVESTIGATORS WILL COME IN AND, AND COVER THAT.

SO WE ARE, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO GET IT COVERED.

SO, BUT NO, WE WORK DILIGENTLY WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE OTHER AGENCIES AND WE TRY NOT TO MAKE THEM WAIT AS LONG, BUT SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE LIKE, HIS DEPUTIES ARE ON

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SCENE FOR HOWEVER LONG OR THE OFFICERS ARE ON SCENE UNTIL WE CAN GET THERE.

AND VICE VERSA.

WE TRY TO YES.

TO MAKE THEIR JOB AS EASY AS POSSIBLE AND THEY DO AND THEY TRY TO MAKE OURS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DOES THAT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO PREDICTION IN MY LINE OF WORK.

SO IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS MORNING I, I GOT TO BED AT 10 30 LAST NIGHT AND THEN WE HAD ALL THESE CALLS AND I'M GETTING CALLED AND I'M LIKE, SO I HAVE TO STAY UP.

AND PLUS WE'RE WORKING ON A NEW SYSTEM THAT WE JUST WENT LIVE ON JULY 10TH.

SO WE GOT DENTON TART AND JOHNSON COUNTY AND OUR COUNTY ALL WORKING ON THIS NEW SYSTEM AND LEARNING IT.

AND NOW I HAVE TO READ ALL THE, CONTINUE TO READ ALL THESE REPORTS, WHICH IS A CONTINUAL THING.

IT'S JUST PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GET ALL THAT DONE AND UH, TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND THEN WITH THE CLERK, IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT, IF WE HIRED SOMEBODY THAT COULD COME IN AND HELP ALLEVIATE WHERE I'M NOT DOING PURCHASE ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR ORDERING SUPPLIES AND JUST SIMPLE THINGS THAT COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TASK FROM ME SO I CAN GO IF I NEED HELP OUT WITH THE OTHER INVESTIGATORS AS WELL.

BUT ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE BEEN DOING HERE LATELY, UH, IN THE LAST PROBABLY SIX MONTHS, IS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, UM, HOSPICE PLACES, NURSING HOMES, UH, LIKE I'M SCHEDULED TO GO DO AN IN-SERVICE CLASS WITH HOSPICE PLUS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCTORS AND NURSES THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REPORTABLE, WHAT'S NOT REPORTABLE.

UH, I DID A, I GUESS SPEAKING AT THE HOSPITAL AND SPOKE WITH 30 DOCTORS AND HELPED THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHEN THEY'RE SIGNING THE DEATH CERTIFICATES.

BY DOING ALL THIS, IT ELIMINATES A LOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS FOR US THAT CAN, IT CAN TAKE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES WHERE IF A NURSING HOME HAS SOMEBODY THAT, THAT PASSES AWAY AND IT'S OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD AND THERE'S NO TRAUMA, NO FOUL PLAY, WELL WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN IT.

SO THEY GOTTA FIGURE OUT, WELL WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THE BODY? AND SO IT'S JUST THINGS LIKE QUESTIONS I GET AND I HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

UH, OR LIKE THE INDIGENTS, WE, WE, I'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO RECTIFY THOSE PROBLEMS. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING A LOT OF INDIGENT CASES IN PARKER COUNTY.

UH, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, USING THE PROGRAM TLO IF I HAVE TO, TO FIND FAMILY MEMBERS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE CAN FIND NEXT THE KIDS.

SO THEY'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY HAVING TO DO IT.

YEAH.

YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB ON THAT INGEN STUFF BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE A LOT.

WELL, I'M TO THE COURT.

WELL, I'M, I'M TRYING AND I'VE WORKED WITH SABRE TOO.

HER AND I WORKED AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE VERY FEW.

BUT YEAH, I'M WORKING REALLY HARD TO LIMIT THAT.

SO.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CLERK AT ALL? NO, SIR.

IT'S, IT'S JUST MYSELF AND, AND THE OTHER THREE INVESTIGATORS.

YEAH.

YOU NEED A CLERK JUST TO, I MEAN, JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.

YES.

UM, COULD A PART-TIME CLERK TO START, WOULD THAT HELP? I MEAN, JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THIS FROM A BARE BONE STANDPOINT, ANYTHING WOULD HELP GREATLY.

I MEAN, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER INVESTIGATORS, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO BE ON SCHEDULE AND, AND DO THAT.

UH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU GOT DENTON, UH, TERRAN AND JOHNSON AND THEY, THOSE CHIEFS DON'T, UH, JOHNSON DOES ON OCCASION, BUT THEY JUST GOT THEIR FOURTH INVEST, FOURTH INVESTIGATOR AND THEY HAVE A CLERK.

SO IT KIND OF WORKS OUT.

UM, AND WE'RE KIND OF NECK AND NECK WITH CALL VOLUME IS, IS WHAT THEY ARE.

UM, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE A CLERK WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT AND THEY COULD ALSO BE DOING THE HOSPICE CALLS.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO GO OUT ON.

THEY COULD BE TAKING THAT OVER THE PHONE IN THE MIDDLE IF SOMEBODY IS ON A CALL ALREADY AND THEN WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TIE UP A NURSING HOME OR WHOEVER THAT WANTS TO REPORT A DEATH.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS FROM A PRIORITY STANDPOINT THAT YES, SIR.

AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS, I MEAN, YOU, YOU MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR THE, AND AGAIN, AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN SAID, I MEAN IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE, I MEAN, WE'RE LISTENING TO THESE NEEDS AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE STAND FINANCIALLY, BUT YOU MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT ON THE, ON THE INVESTIGATOR, UH, JUST, JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A STANDPOINT OF, OF WHAT'S A POSSIBILITY FROM A CLERK NEED.

AND WE COULD GROW INTO THAT.

I MEAN, JUST SOMETHING TO UNDERSTAND.

YES.

HELP US UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER.

AND LIKE I SAID, OUR JOB IS JUST BE FOR FAMILY AND YOU CAN'T SIT THERE AND PREDICT AND STUFF.

UM, BUT I KNOW WITH THE GROWTH, WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF, A LOT MORE NUMBERS.

LIKE I SAID, WE, WE WILL PROBABLY HIT OVER A THOUSAND THIS YEAR.

SO YOUR AVERAGE, AND THAT'S 250 CASES PER PERSON THAT WE'RE WORKING.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE A CLERK RIGHT NOW? NO, SIR, WE DON'T.

SO BECKY, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS DO WE HAVE WHERE THERE'S NOT A CLERK? BOY, THAT'S A HARD QUESTION.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE A CLERK? WELL, THE NEEDS ARE VARIED OR DIFFERENT VETERANS.

WELL, THE NEEDS ARE VARIED, BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME THINKING OF ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CLERK.

THE CLERK SEEMS TO BE LIKE A PRETTY GENERAL NEED TO ME.

AGAIN, WE

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CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY.

NO, SIR.

SIR, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I MEAN, THAT THOUGHT JUST CAME TO MIND.

WE, WE DO, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.

LIKE I SAID, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT I HOURS AND THE SCHEDULES WE WORK, WE, THE TEAM THAT IT'S, THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS PHENOMENAL.

THEY WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD AND THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO COME IN ON THEIR DAYS OFF.

AND, AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET TWO CONSECUTIVE DAYS OFF, THEY DON'T GET ANY DAYS OFF.

YOU KNOW, WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THE GIRLS, UH, OR SORRY, THE INVESTIGATORS WILL COVER, UM, EACH OTHER WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE VACATION OR, OR YOU KNOW, COMP TIME.

UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

LIKE I'VE GOT ONE GIRL, UH, INVESTIGATOR THAT'S GOT 64 HOURS OF HOLIDAY TIME AND I'M, I'M SAYING, HEY, YOU GOTTA GET THIS BURNED DOWN.

SO WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO WORK IT.

AND SOME OF US MAY HAVE TO WORK THREE DAYS STRAIGHT AND TAKE CALL WHEN THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, TO THE POINT.

BUT WE ALSO GET BURN OUT TOO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M NOT COMPLAINING WHATSOEVER 'CAUSE I'LL HAVE MY JOB, BUT I GOT TO BED AT FIVE 30 THIS MORNING AND I WOKE UP FAST ENOUGH TO GET HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT ISN'T VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THE INVESTIGATORS DON'T GET BURNED OUT.

'CAUSE IF THEY GET BURNED OUT AND THEY LEAVE, THEN I'M IN A REAL BIG, YOU KNOW, JAM.

UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST GO TO A CALL AND WE'RE DONE.

WE DEAL WITH THESE FAMILIES FOR UP TO THREE MONTHS SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING ALL THESE, UH, REPORTS AND CR THREE REPORTS FROM DPS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE GOTTA GET IN AND FOLLOW UPS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN GETTING THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY FROM THEIR LOVED ONE AND EVERYTHING AND MEETING WITH THEM.

UH, AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE 'EM, THEY STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING.

BUT, UH, THE ON SCENE TIME IS WHAT USUALLY TAKES THE LONGEST.

BUT WE TRY TO USE TIME MANAGEMENT AND MAKE SURE IT COULD GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T HELP IT.

LIKE I SAID, THE CALL WE HAD THE OTHER DAY WHERE JUST SIX HOURS, ONE INVESTIGATOR WAS ON THERE BECAUSE THE TRANSPORT GOT THERE AND COULDN'T GET THE, THE PERSON OUT.

AND THEN YOU GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO DO IT AND FIGURING OUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA LET THE PERSON OUT AND THEN THEY GOTTA CUT A HOLE OUT, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE PERSON OUT.

AND THEN THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE OFFICE AND FINISH THE REPORT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO IT, SOME OF THESE CASES CAN BE TIME CONSUMING.

SO JUST, AND THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING ANY OTHER CALLS THAT COME IN.

SO, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF ANY OF Y'ALL WOULD EVER LIKE TO KNOW ANYTHING TO DEPTH WHAT WE DO, I'D BE GLAD.

I KNOW, UH, I'VE, UH, EXPLAINED THINGS BEFORE, LIKE ON THE PLANE CRASH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT WHAT WE DO, AND I'VE HAD EVEN A COMMUNITY MEMBER CAME UP TO ME ONE DAY.

HE GOES, WELL, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD ONE? I'M LIKE, FOR 40 YEARS WITH A CONTRACT WITH TARRANT COUNTY.

I'M LIKE, OH, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

SO IT, AND WE LIKE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY TOO, AND ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE, I MEAN, WE GET PEOPLE THAT SAY, HEY, WELL WHAT IF I HAVE 11 ONE PASSES AWAY IN PARKER COUNTY, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO GO TO TARRANT COUNTY.

WELL, I HAVE TO EXPLAIN.

WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND THERE'S NO TRAUMA OR NO FOUL PLAY, I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER.

THEY HAVE TO GO.

THAT'S PROTOCOL.

SO IT'S A LOT OF TIMES EXPLAINING THINGS TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP THEM OUT TOO.

AND THEY'RE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT TOO.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR INFORMATION AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS AND, OKAY, Y HAD THE QUESTIONS, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING AND LEARNING MORE MYSELF.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SIR? ANY QUESTIONS FOR TRACY? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, TRACY, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S A DELICATE JOB.

VERY, IT'S, IT'S, AND PLUS I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE WELLBEING OF THE GIRLS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CASES THAT EMOTIONALLY GET TO YOU AND YES, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMOTIONAL NEEDS FIRST, FIRST AND FOREMOST.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[I.I. Discussion/Presentation on Department 665 Extension Office budget requests. (Kathy Smith / Judge Deen)]

WE'LL MOVE UP TO ITEM I ON DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 6, 6, 5 EXTENSION OFFICE BUDGET REQUEST.

UH, KATHY, WELL THIS, THAT WILL TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE KATHY LIKES TO TALK.

SO AND, UM, KATHY COULDN'T BE HERE.

SHE IS DOING A CHRONIC DISEASE PROGRAM AT THE MOMENT.

SO CHARLIE AND I ARE IN, UH, HER PLACE.

BUT TODAY WE JUST CAME TO, UH, PROVIDE FURTHER EXPLANATION ON OUR ASK THAT WE HAVE.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDE THE EXTENSION OFFICE.

AND, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, OUR, UH, LARGEST ASK I WOULD SAY WOULD BE OUR VEHICLE.

UM, WE HAVE PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A FORD EXPLORER FROM THE LIST THAT WAS OFFERED.

UM, AND REASON BEING IS WE DO HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEES THAT, UM, DO NEED TO, UM, DRIVE OR, UM, UH, OR NEED A VEHICLE IN PROVIDING PROGRAMMING EFFORTS.

UH, BUT THE MAIN CONCERN IS OUR SUBURBAN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A 2014,

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UM, IS REACHING A HUNDRED.

WELL, IT HAS 117,000 MILES ON IT.

AND WE DO TRANSPORT YOUTH AND INDIVIDUALS FOR OUR EFFORTS.

AND SO THOUGH IT'S STILL SOMEWHAT GOING STRONG, WE HAD TO HAVE A, UH, AIR CONDITIONER REPAIR ON IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANY GAS VEHICLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES.

WE TRY TO KEEP IT MORE FOR LOCAL TRAVEL VERSUS, UM, ANY FURTHER DISTANCE.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR MAIN ASK WOULD BE THE VEHICLE.

AND PRIMARILY TO PROVIDE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION, UM, FOR EXTENSION EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THEIR CLIENTELE THAT THEY'RE TRANSPORTING.

THE NEXT, UM, WE DID PUT IN A REQUEST FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF PURCHASING A SHIPPING CONTAINER, UM, FOR STORAGE.

WE DO HAVE JUST A SMALL STORAGE BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICE THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN THERE.

I KNOW FOR 17 YEARS KATHY SAID SHE BELIEVES IT'S BEEN THERE THE ENTIRE TIME THE OFFICE HAS BEEN THERE.

BUT THE, THE FLOOR IS, UM, VERY DILAPIDATED ALMOST.

YOU PRETTY MUCH, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OR YOU COULD FALL THROUGH.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET IN A, UM, MORE RELIABLE FORM OF, UH, STORAGE AND ALSO TO, UM, MY HOME HAS BECOME A STORAGE FACILITY FOR OUR LIVESTOCK SETUP AS FAR AS THE SCALES AND, UM, THE PANELS FOR CATTLE SHOWS.

AND I COULD REALLY USE THE SPACE AGAIN FOR MY HAY.

UM, SO HAVING A SHIPPING CONTAINER WOULD BE A PLACE THAT WE COULD PUT EVERYTHING FROM THE OFFICE AS WELL AS THE FOUR H PROGRAM AND ONE CENTRAL LOCATION.

UM, FOR OFFICE OPERATIONS, JUST IT, IT WOULD PROVIDE A LOT MORE STORAGE THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

AND THE PROGRAM TO GROW, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, TO GET MORE EQUIPMENT, WHICH YOU SHOULD, IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD PROGRAM, YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT.

UM, THAT WOULD JUST, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE STORAGE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, THAT CONTAINER WOULD BE A LOT MORE SECURE THAN THE STORAGE FACILITY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

UH, IT'S ONE OF THE LITTLE WOODEN, UM, PORTABLE BUILDINGS THAT PART OF THE WORK DOOR.

AND, UM, YOU GUYS KNOW HOW THAT ENDS UP YEARS DOWN THE ROAD SERVED PURPOSE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY PASSED ITS PRIME FOR SURE.

UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE ASK ON THAT.

UM, AND WE HAVE AREA OVER THERE WHERE WE COULD PUT IT.

AND THEN IF IT EVER DID NEED TO BE MOVED, OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE MOVED FAIRLY EASILY.

UH, THEY MOVE THOSE THINGS PRETTY HANDILY AND EFFICIENTLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TEARING STUFF UP.

SO WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A REQUEST FOR, THERE ARE SIX INDIVIDUALS IN OUR OFFICE WHO, UH, UTILIZE COMPUTERS.

UM, WE PARTICIPATE IN A COST SHARE PROGRAM WITH TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE.

THEREFORE, UM, THE COUNTY ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE ENTIRE, UH, BILL FOR THE COMPUTERS, BUT WE TRY TO KEEP A REGULAR ROTATION ON COMPUTERS JUST SO, UM, THEY'RE NOT OPERATING OFF OF, UM, EXTREMELY OLD COMPUTERS.

SO WE HAVE A REQUEST IN FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO, UH, LAPTOP COMPUTERS FOR EXTENSION AGENTS, UH, FOLLOWED BY JUST ROUTINE AUTOMOTIVE MAINTENANCE AS FAR AS IT'S TIME FOR OUR TRUCK TO HAVE NEW TIRES.

AND THEN FINALLY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, UM, UH, THE BUILDING ACCORDING TO KATHY AGAIN, HAS, IS ONE IT'S UTILIZED FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST BY THE EXTENSION OFFICE, BUT BY OTHER OFFICES AS WELL.

AND IN OUR MEETING ROOM AS WELL AS JUST IN OUR OFFICE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC, UM, PAINTS BEGINNING TO CHIP.

AND SO IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, UM, AT THE VERY END, IF A REPAINTING OF THE MAIN MEETING ROOM AS WELL AS, UM, THE AREA IN WHICH THE PUBLIC, UH, SEES WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS WELL.

WERE YOU PROPOSING TO PUT THE SHIPPING CONTAINER? UM, SO WHERE OUR CURRENT STORAGE IS AT THE MOMENT, SO IT WOULD BE ON, UM, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.

UM, I THINK, I FEEL LIKE THE JUVENILE PROBATION HAS ONE THERE TOO CURRENTLY.

SO FROM EARLIER TODAY, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY WAS GIVING THEM PROBLEMS WITH PLACING ONE SOMEWHERE.

THOSE FOLKS HAD TO MOVE ALONG, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO CHECK ON.

OKAY.

YEAH, CONSTABLE TOO SAID THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO PUT ONE OVER IN THEIR AREA.

OKAY.

SO YOU MIGHT CHECK ON THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, I MEAN, WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE SPACE OUT AT BETHEL ROAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT, I'M, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO GET IT.

OKAY.

I, WE HAD, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE SITTING THERE.

SURE.

NOT ARGUING AT ALL.

YEAH,

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NO, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S, UH, UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST RELAYING THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT EARLIER TODAY.

BUT THE ONE YOU HAVE IS A LITTLE WOODEN SHED.

YES, SIR.

IS THE, NO, THERE'S THE JUVENILE PROBATION HAS A SHIPPING CONTAINER THERE ON THAT AT THAT LOCATION.

PROBABLY BEEN THERE A WHILE THOUGH.

IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.

THERE'S, WE'D BE HAPPY TO FILL THAT ONE UP.

YEAH, THAT'S AN OPTION.

NO, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.

WELL, WE DON'T WANNA IMPOSE ON THEIR OFFICER.

WE WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT, THAT THEY GOT OPPOSITION FROM THE CITY ABOUT PLACING ONE OVER BY, UH, CONSTABLE SUE'S LOCATION.

WE ARE, WE LEARNED EARLIER TODAY, SO, OKAY.

CHECK ON THAT IF YOU WOULD.

ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL LIKE TO ADD ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR FILLING IT WITH KATHY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE ARE GONNA GO TO K BRACE YOURSELF.

YES.

THE CCL TWO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TRIAL, SO SHE'S NOT ABLE NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

[I.K. Discussion/Presentation on Department 500 Sheriffs Office budget requests. (Sheriff Authier / Judge Deen)]

I WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BRACE YOURSELF.

'CAUSE WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEXT, IF Y'ALL WOULD COME ON UP.

SURE.

Y'ALL DON'T WANT ANOTHER BREAK? YEAH, , THAT'S WHY I SAID BRACE YOURSELF.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU GOT MORE PAPERWORK.

THE CHIEF MADE THIS, ALL THAT CALL CHEAT SHEET.

THAT MIGHT HELP WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES.

CHIEF'S GONNA GO THROUGH MAJOR MEAT, POTATOES, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU SIR.

GO AHEAD.

MORNING.

UH, QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION TO GO TO.

I KNOW THAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE PROBABLY TO REVIEW THE BOOKS THAT WE MADE FOR YOU, SO I'LL JUST KIND OF HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

UH, THE BIGGEST INCREASE, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE FIVE 12, THE JAIL.

UH, WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY OUR VENDOR AND, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS APPROVED AN RFP TO RENEW THE CONTRACT.

I ESTIMATE, UM, APPROXIMATELY A $4 MILLION INCREASE IN THAT CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THE, UH, THE RATE THAT WE PAY IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN, UH, ANY OTHER, UH, AGENCY.

ANY OTHER JAIL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.

THOSE ARE RUNNING ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 93 AND $105 A DAY PER DIEM.

SO I EXPECT THE RATE TO GO OUT, UH, GO UP AND ONLY THAT, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE CURRENTLY AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, IF NOT FEW MONTHS, I'VE BEEN HOUSING INMATES OUT IN OTHER FACILITIES, OTHER JAILS BECAUSE WE'RE OVER, UH, OVER CAPACITY AT OUR FACILITY.

WE DO HAVE, UM, A SMALL EXPANSION THAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, BUT WHENEVER I BUDGETED THIS, THIS FIGURE, I BUDGETED OUT TO ABOUT 500, UM, FOR, UH, FOR ALL FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE US COMING UNDER, UM, OUR CAPACITY AND BRINGING THOSE INMATES BACK ANYTIME SOON.

BUT IF WE DO, THERE'LL BE SOME EXTRA THERE.

NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WE, WE EXPECT, UM, UH, IF WE'RE, THEY'RE DOING THE, THE, THE CONTRACTOR'S DOING THE TRANSPORTS TO THE OTHER FACILITIES, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY GUARD HIGHER.

WE HAVE TO PAY TRANSPORT COST FOR THEM TO TRANSPORT THOSE INMATES WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING AND, AND BRING 'EM BACK WHEN WE NEED 'EM.

SO THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT.

ROUGH, ROUGH ESTIMATE.

CHIEF, HOW DO Y'ALL DETERMINE WHO, WHO GOES AND WHO STAYS? I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT A, THE JAIL CONTRACTOR? DOES THAT OFFENSE OR IT IS, UH, THE JAIL CONTRARY MAKES THAT, MAKES THAT DECISION? IT'S USUALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE LONG TERM, GONNA BE THERE FOR LONG TERM, UH, DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL PROBLEMS. THEY'RE NOT, UH, A DISCIPLINARY PROBLEM.

MM-HMM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST, THEY TRY TO FIND BEDS WHEREVER THEY CAN.

THERE'S, WE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A, WITH ANOTHER JAIL DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE FACILITY HAVE BEDS OPEN.

SO SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE TO GO MOVE THEM FROM ONE JAIL TO ANOTHER JAIL BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT SOMEBODY IN WISE COUNTY SAY, HEY, WE NEED OUR BEDS.

SO IT'S, IT'S A CONSTANT HASSLE.

QUESTIONS ABOUT 5 12, 5 45.

UM, DISPATCH COMMUNICATIONS IN THIS, UH, ONE MAIN, ONE BIG COST IS WE WE'RE GONNA REPLACE

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THE 9 1 1 RECORDER.

WE DO A HARDWARE REFRESH EVERY FIVE YEARS.

UH, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS 9 1 1 DOES HAVE UP TO A $25,000 REIMBURSEMENT.

SO WE HAVE TO, THE COUNTY HAS TO FUND THE PURCHASE AFTER WE REPLACE THE, UH, RECORDER WITH A NEW RECORDER, CUT THE CHECK, AND WE SEND THEM A COPY OF THE PAPERWORK AND THEN THEY REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THAT COST UP TO 25,000.

UH, THE HARDWARE REFRESH COMES IN RIGHT OVER, RIGHT OVER $23,000 THIS YEAR.

SO THAT'LL BE COMPLETELY FUNDED.

UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE DISPATCHERS TO ADD TO OUR DISPATCH, UM, POOL.

THE COUNTY PAID, UM, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR A, UM, A STUDY DONE.

THE COUNTY, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD, UH, PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR A, FOR A SURVEY OR STUDY TO BE DONE.

AND PART OF THAT STUDY, WHAT CAME BACK WAS THAT OUR DISPATCH CENTER WAS UNDERSTAFFED BY THREE.

UM, THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WE WANT, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A SECOND, WE'RE WE WANT TO, UM, DO SOME, UM, EXPANSION IN THE DISPATCH CENTER TO KIND OF GET READY FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 10 YEARS, WHATEVER.

WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WITH THIS EXPANSION WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

UH, SO THAT'S THREE DISPATCHERS, UH, PLUS SALARY, UH, BENEFITS.

THE DISPATCH EXPANSION.

I TALKED TO MARK LONG ABOUT, UM, HE ESTIMATED JUST FOR THE EXPANSION ALONE BECAUSE THE BUILDING, OUR BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BOUGHT FOR PATROL AND SOME CID GUYS, UH, IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE DELIVERED NEXT WEEK AND SET UP, UM, IN PLACE.

AND THEN, UM, ALL THE, UH, MARK LONG'S SUPPOSED TO GET WITH THE CONTRACTORS TO START RUNNING, YOU KNOW, SEWER, WATER POWER DATA TO THAT.

AND WE CAN ACTUALLY START MOVING THOSE PEOPLE IN THERE.

SO ONCE WE GET OUR PATROL GUYS OUTTA THAT ROOM, IT'LL OPEN UP THAT ENTIRE PATROL SPACE FOR US TO EXPAND DISPATCH INTO.

UM, THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH, UH, WE TALKED BEFORE, UH, THE, THE FORMER FIRE MARSHAL, UM, AND THE RADIO THING.

WE, UH, WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR, WE HAVE FIVE DISPATCH CONSOLES NOW, FIVE RADIO CONSOLES.

WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT OUT TO SEVEN.

SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE EXPANSION PLAN.

WE HAVE SIX STATIONS, BUT WE ONLY HAVE FIVE CONSOLES RIGHT NOW.

UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE PLAN ON GOING TO TWO SERGEANT DISTRICTS.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

UH, SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADD SEVERAL MORE RADIO CHANNELS AND WE'LL NEED ADDITIONAL DISPATCHING PERSONNEL TO, TO MANAGE THOSE, UH, THOSE CALL LOADS AND STUFF.

BUT THIS DISPATCH EXPANSION, HE EX HE EX EXPECTED MAYBE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE EXPANSION.

I'VE KIND OF PADDED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD FURNITURE.

UM, WE'LL HAVE TO EXPAND THE, THE WORKSPACES FOR THOSE, THOSE PERSONNEL.

AND IT'S JUST AS, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE CHANGE ORDERS AND THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PROBLEMS THAT POP UP.

SO IT WAS AN ESTIMATE.

WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET SOMEBODY IN THERE TO DO THAT.

UH, LISTENING TO THAT, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I THINK AT THE LAST MAYBE CORE I HAD MENTIONED WITH ARPA, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT FUNDS WE HAVE LEFT, OBVIOUSLY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, BUT JUST HEARING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNICATION, UM, SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE, THE CONSOLES AND EVEN THE REMODEL.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD EVEN HAVE TIME AT THIS POINT FOR, YOU KNOW, AN RFP AND AWARDING AND NEGOTIATING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE, I'VE SAID WE NEED TO HAVE A ARPA MEETING TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT FUNDS WE HAVE, SO WE'RE NOT SENDING IT BACK.

BUT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING, UM, IF IT'S MOVED QUICKLY, THAT COULD BE COVERED BY THOSE FUNDS.

JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT.

SO THAT'S THE MAIN, THAT'S THE MAIN EXPENSE.

UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER FUNDS ARE NORMAL EVERYDAY FUNDS, YOU KNOW, CHAIRS, UM, HEADPHONES OR, UH, THE, THE THINGS THAT THEY PLUG INTO THE RADIO TO TALK ON THE RADIO HEADSETS.

THANK YOU.

UM, IT'S JUST NORMAL DAILY OPERATING EXPENSES.

SO FOR, FOR DISPATCH QUESTIONS ABOUT DISPATCH ADMIN.

UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT, A LARGE INCREASE IN ADMIN.

UM, WE'RE NOT ADDING OR DELETING ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST BASICALLY SOME CHANGES IN, YOU KNOW, THE DAY, THE DAILY OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, GOING OVER TO SPECIAL CRIMES 5 61, UH, WE HAVE A SLIGHT DECREASE IN 5 61.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN, UH, CONTRACT SERVICES

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FOR, UM, FOR MEDICAL EXPENSE OR MEDICAL EXAMINER DOING LAB TESTS ON DRUGS AND ALSO OUR PRIVATE, UH, LAB DOING LAB TESTS.

THAT'S, THOSE THINGS CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

THE COST CONTINUES TO INCREASE PER, UH, PER TEST, BUT THERE IS A $36,000 DECREASE IN THAT IN THAT REQUEST.

UM, MOST OF THAT'S FROM A VEHICLE.

WE ADDED A VEHICLE TO REPLACED THE VEHICLE LAST YEAR TO THE FLEET, WHICH WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE TODAY.

UH, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS 5 62.

UM, SO THE, THE MAIN INCREASES HERE ARE PERSONNEL REQUEST.

WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, INVESTIGATORS IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

ONE WOULD BE FOR PROPERTY CRIMES AND THE OTHER WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR FINANCIAL CRIMES.

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF, UM, CRYPTOCURRENCY FRAUD AND UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF VICTIMS THAT ARE LOSING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, UH, IN THESE, THESE THINGS.

WE ALSO HAVE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF CONTRACTOR SERVICES, PUTTING A LOT OF CONTRACTORS IN JAIL FOR FRAUD FOR NOT, UH, DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE DOING, TAKING THE MONEY AND RUN.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF CASES COMING IN.

THERE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

THERE ALWAYS WILL BE.

UH, THE, THE MORE THE COUNTY GROWS, THE, THE MORE WORKLOAD IS INVOLVED, THE MORE WORKLOAD IS INVOLVED, THE, THE SLOWER THAT THOSE GUYS ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PROCESS CASES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GETTING OVERWHELMED.

AND THEN THE CAP NON CAP'S GONNA BE FOR VEHICLES, UM, FOR THOSE TWO INVESTIGATORS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH ACTUALLY PUTTING COPS IN PLACE.

QUESTIONS ABOUT CID? OKAY.

MOVING OVER TO PATROL 5 63.

UM, HERE WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES.

THIS WILL BRING OUR SHIFTS.

WE DID SOME INTERNAL TRANSFERS OF SOME PERSONNEL MOVES, SOME PEOPLE AROUND LAST YEAR WE WERE FLUSH ON OUR FOUR SHIFTS, BUT WE ACTUALLY ADDED ONE, UM, TO A PATROL SHIFT.

SO NOW WE HAVE AN UNEVEN AMOUNT.

WE WANT TO FLUSH THAT OUT AND ADD THREE TO THE TOTAL PATROL TO MAKE EACH PATROL SHIFT THE SAME NUMBER OF PERSONNEL.

ALONG WITH THAT YOU OWES THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CAP EXPENSES.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A LOT LESS VEHICLES THIS YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY GOT 25, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND 25 DODGE DURANGOS THIS YEAR AND WE USED COUNTY FUNDS AND WE ALSO USED A LOT OF, UM, SEIZE ASSET FUNDS TO PURCHASE THOSE, OUTFIT 'EM AND GET 'EM ON THE STREET.

SO WE DON'T NEED NEARLY AS MANY VEHICLES AS WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY, ARE YOU STILL SHY THREE DEPUTIES FROM LAST BUDGET OR DID YOU GET I THINK WE'RE ONLY, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE OPENING.

YOU HAVE ONE OPENING NOW OR BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE A FEW MONTHS AGO YOU WERE STILL THREE SHY.

WE WE MIGHT BE, YEAH.

SO YEAH, THERE'S THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM'S ALWAYS NOT BEEN, NEVER BEEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING COPS.

IT'S ALWAYS JUST BEEN KEEPING 'EM.

SO, UM, WE EXPECT, YOU KNOW, IF IF THIS PHYSICIAN'S REWARDED, THEY'LL WE'LL BE ABLE TO FILL 'EM PRETTY QUICKLY.

IT'S, IT'S, IT IS ACTUALLY GETTING EASIER THAN IT THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS TO FIND QUALIFIED PERSONNEL.

UM, THE TOWARDS THE ACADEMIES ARE STILL CRANKING 'EM OUT AND WE'RE STILL FINDING THEM FROM OUTTA STATE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE OR LOCAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WANTING TO, GUYS ARE WANTING TO COME HERE, GUYS AND GALS WANTING TO COME HERE AND MAKE, UH, MAKE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEMSELVES.

SO, UH, THE BIGGEST INCREASE, LIKE I SAID, IS, UM, RADIO EQUIPMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ADD, UH, RADIOS TO OUR FLEET AND THE BIGGEST DECREASE IS GONNA BE IN, IN AUTOMOBILES WITH HALF A MILLION DOLLARS LESS THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE ASKING THAN WE, THAN WE ASKED FOR LAST, UH, LAST YEAR.

SO WE JUST DON'T NEED AS MANY 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

AS LONG AS WE CAN CAN FIND VEHICLES IN OCTOBER TO BUY, THEN WE'LL WE'LL BE OKAY.

AND THEB 22? YEAH.

S YEAH, SB 22.

THERE'S ALSO THAT, THAT COMES UP AGAIN THIS YEAR.

THAT'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AWARDED TO THE COUNTY TO HELP FUND, UM, PERSONNEL RAISES EQUIPMENT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON PATROL, UH, TRAINING, WE CONTINUE TO ADD CORE TRAINING TO

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OUR SLATE.

WE CONTINUE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF EQUIPMENT EACH YEAR, REFRESH OUR EQUIPMENT.

SO THE INCREASE IS, IS MINOR, IT'S ONLY $10,000.

I SAY MINOR $10,000 IS NOT REALLY MINOR, BUT IN THE OVERALL TOTALITY OF OUR BUDGET REQUEST, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.

UM, THAT'S MAINLY GONNA BE FOR TRAINING EQUIPMENT.

THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE IN AMMUNITION AND UH, INCREASE IN CONTRACT SERVICES.

WE CONTINUE, GO AHEAD ON TRAINING.

HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE CITY ABOUT THE, UM, I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON THE ROAD.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE ROAD THAT BETHEL, THE MAIN TRAINING CENTER IS ON? BETHEL.

BETHEL.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I FORGOT THAT.

UM, FROM THE STATE, WERE THEY GONNA TAKE THAT THAT WHOLE RIGHT AWAY, CORRECT? UH, NOT LATELY, NO.

UM, THE LAST TIME I LOOKED IT WAS STILL IN THE, UH, I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WAS IN THE PLANNING STAGES.

YEAH, I THINK THEY WERE STILL IN THE OUTREACH STAGES.

I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN.

BUT I HEARD SOMETHING THAT MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS A LOT MORE URGENT THAN WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM YOU.

I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD IT.

YEAH.

BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT WAS A MORE RECENT KIND OF PIVOT.

SO WE MIGHT CHECK INTO THAT.

THEY WERE GONNA TAKE THE WHOLE BUILDING IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

UM, THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE BUILDING, SO WE'LL LOSE THAT, THAT ENTIRE BUILDING AND WE'LL LOSE A LOT OF, UH, ROAD FRONTAGE THERE.

UM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIND OR BUILD ANOTHER PLACE TO DO OUR TRAINING AT SOME POINT.

BUT I THINK WE GOT A FEW YEARS TO THAT.

YEAH.

I I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO IN THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS.

I DON'T THINK SO.

YOU KNOW, THE STATE NEVER DOES ANYTHING THAT FAST OR THE COUNTY OR THE COUNTY .

SO THEY DON'T, YOU DON'T TAKE ALL THAT LAND BEHIND THERE AS WELL? NO, JUST UP TO, BASICALLY IT IS ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF OUR BUILDING JUST OKAY.

SO WHOLE BUILDING.

YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE MUCH MORE, IT, IT WON'T BE PAST THE, THAT THE, THE MAX SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO BUILDINGS OF GROUNDS WILL STILL HAVE ALL THAT SPACE BACK THERE AND WE'LL STILL HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HEEL AND STUFF, BUT YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG ROAD.

UH, ANIMAL CONTROL.

MOVING OVER TO ANIMAL PATROL 5 66.

UH, THE BIGGEST AD OR THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN THIS DEPARTMENT IS THE SAME THING WE HAVE EVERY YEAR WITH THE CITY SHELTER CONTRACT.

IT GOES UP 10%.

UM, SO THE ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER CONTRACT WENT UP SEVEN.

IT'S GONNA GO UP $74,628.

THAT'S WHAT, RIGHT AROUND $800,000 A YEAR.

LET'S SEE HERE.

THAT'S A BIG HIT THERE.

YEAH.

800, $2,302 OR $320.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY'S PAYING FOR ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES.

YEAH, THAT'S JUST SERVICES.

IT'S NOT OUR FACILITY.

NO SIR.

NO, THAT'S JUST FOR US TO GO UP AND, YOU KNOW, TURN OUR ANIMALS OVER THERE FOR THEM TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM.

AND THE OTHER INCREASE IS, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO VEHICLES INSTEAD OF ONE.

UM, WE KIND OF GOT BEHIND OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS OF, 'CAUSE WE ASKED FOR A ONE FLEET REPLACEMENT IN THAT DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR.

SO WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND ON THAT.

AND, UH, OF COURSE THOSE, THOSE TRUCKS GO JUST FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

YOU KNOW, A TRUCK IS ASSIGNED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM, ANIMAL PATROL OFFICER.

AND SO THEY GOT, THEY DRIVE A LOT OF MILES.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID ASK FOR IS, UM, DOG, NEW DOG BOXES.

SIX NEW DOG BOXES FOR SUMMER.

THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE KIND OF WINTER BOXES AND, UM, IT'S PRETTY MISERABLE FOR THE ANIMALS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE WANT TO ADD, UH, SIX MORE DOG BOXES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE THOSE ANIMALS SOME RELIEF IN THE SUMMER.

'CAUSE THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR SUMMER, UH, 5 67 FUND 10.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR FUND 73, BUT FUND 10.

SO HERE I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NOT A SHERIFF'S OFFICE REQUEST.

THESE PERSONNEL, THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE, UM, COURTHOUSE SECURITY COMMITTEE'S REQUEST THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INSTALL A SECURITY STATION AT THE WEATHERFORD ANNEX FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW DOWN THERE.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COURT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT IF IT IS, AND, AND THE COURT DOES APPROVE TO ADD A SECURITY STATION, WHICH WILL BE BASICALLY A WALKTHROUGH METAL DETECTOR AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CORDING OFF AN AREA FOR PEOPLE TO CUE INTO THE, INTO THAT COURTROOM, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE US AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ADDING TWO PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.

THAT'S AT THE FRONT DOOR, RIGHT? NO SIR.

IT'LL ACTUALLY BE DOWN.

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IT'LL, WELL, THAT HALLWAY, IT'LL BE IN THE HALLWAY.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD BLOCK OFF THE BACKSIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE, OF THE ANNEX, WHICH IS JUST THE, UH, UH, COUNTY, SOMETHING LIKE THE COUNTY CLERKS.

IT'S THE COUNTY CLERK, UM, COURT DIVISION, PROBATE DIVISION.

AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, JUDGE'S OFFICE AND THE COURT.

AND SO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO GO INTO THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SECURITY.

SO, AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY FURNITURE RELATED COSTS.

THAT'S JUST FOR PERSONNEL THAT DOESN'T, THAT, THAT, THAT FIGURE DOES INCLUDE A NEW WALKTHROUGH METAL DETECTOR AND A HANDHELD WANDS.

I SAID THAT DOES, IF THE, IF THE COURT APPROVES THAT, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DO THAT.

GOING OVER TO, UH, EXTRADITION AND TRANSPORT.

UM, WE ADDED THE TWO PERSONNEL THAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED JUST SO THAT WE COULD, UM, CONTINUE TO FUND THOSE TWO POSITIONS.

UH, THAT WAS FOR SOME OF THE JUVENILE TRANSPORTS OR DOING ALL THE JUVENILE TRANSPORTS, WHICH HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A LOT.

UH, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA MONITOR THE SITUATION, BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL PROBABLY BE ASKING FOR MORE PEOPLE.

UM, THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THIS IS I'VE GOT FIVE GUYS DOING ALL THE TRANSPORTS AND EXTRADITIONS.

UM, AND NOW THAT INCLUDES JUVENILES AND THERE'S A LOT OF JUVENILE TRANSPORTS.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN GRABBING JUVENILE, UH, PROBATION OFFICERS TO GO WITH, WITH US AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO KIND OF, UH, HELP OFFSET THE WORKLOAD IN THAT.

BUT A LOT OF THESE COURT HEARINGS ARE EIGHT O'CLOCK, NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

UM, SO OUR GUYS GOTTA GET UP AT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE CHILD IS, 5, 6, 3 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, GO OUT THERE, PICK 'EM UP TO HAVE 'EM READY FOR COURT OR IN PARKER COUNTY BY THAT CERTAIN TIME.

UH, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTING BETWEEN FACILITIES.

THERE'S A LOT OF THAT MOVING ONE, A CHILD FROM ONE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY TO ANOTHER ONE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF TRAVEL, A LOT OF, A LOT GOING ON THERE.

SO, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE, SO THOSE JUVENILES, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, GOING AND GETTING 'EM IN THE MORNINGS, BECAUSE A LOT OF 'EM ARE EARLY, IS THAT FROM THEIR HOUSES OR WHERE ARE YOU PICKING THE, WHERE ARE MOST OF THESE? NO, THEY'RE, THAT'S ONLY IN CUSTODY.

SO THAT MAY BE GOING WICHITA FALLS, THAT MAY BE GOING EAST TEXAS.

JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE THE CHILD IS BEING DETAINED.

WHATEVER JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY THEY'RE HOUSED IN.

SO WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MEDICAL.

SO IF THEY GOTTA GO TO THE DOCTOR, WE GOTTA GO PICK 'EM UP, TAKE 'EM TO THE DOCTOR AND BRING 'EM BACK.

UM, IT'S JUST, BUT WE'RE ONLY DOING THE IN CUSTODY STUFF, SO THANK YOU.

AND IN THE BACK OF THE BOOK, YOU GOT THE NEW PERSON, EVERYBODY'S GOT THE BOOK.

UM, YOU'VE GOT OUR JUSTIFICATION LETTERS IN THERE.

WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF KEEPING PACE WITH OUR GROWTH.

UH, I THINK EVERYBODY GOT A, HAD A CHANCE TO PROBABLY REVIEW OUR FAX, OUR UPDATED FACT SHEET, UM, WHICH I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A COPY OF.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING PACE WITH WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR AS FAR AS THE INCREASE IN POPULATION AS FAR AS POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIO.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO BE JUDICIOUS IN OUR REQUEST AS FAR AS PERSONNEL EQUIPMENT, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT REQUESTED THIS YEAR.

UM, A LOT OF THAT'S A FIVE 60.

I HAD TO TAKE, UM, THE SWAT REQUEST AND ACTUALLY MOVE THEM OVER TO FIVE 60 INSTEAD OF PATROL.

SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT SWAT'S ASKING FOR AND WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR PATROL GUYS.

A LOT OF SHIELDS, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY VESTS THAT, THAT EXPIRE EVERY YEAR, JUST A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED.

DO THOSE SHIELDS EXPIRE AS WELL? YES, SIR.

WITH TIME? UH, YEAH, THEY GOT FIVE YEARS TOO, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WE'RE PAYING $8,800 A SHIELD RIGHT NOW, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT, IF YOU TAKE THE INCREASE, UH, UH, OF THE JAIL, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF OUR TOTAL REQUEST, WE'RE, WE'RE AT 5.9% REQUESTED INCREASE OVER OUR LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT EVEN WITH ALL THE NEW PERSONNEL WE'RE ASKING FOR THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A HUGE ASK WE'RE GOING FOR.

SO THAT NINE DOES INCLUDE DOESN'T, SORRY, I, I MAY HAVE CUT YOU OFF THERE.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A SALARY OR, OR ANY BENEFITS.

THAT'S JUST FOR PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND OPERATING EXPENSES.

SO, AND I THINK THE SHERIFF WANTS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SALARY STUFF.

[02:05:02]

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING UP TILL NOW? UH, THE LAST PART WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE THAT Y'ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR, UH, WAS PHENOMENAL.

UH, AS FAR AS THE FORMAT, BASICALLY ON THE 12 YEAR STEP PROGRAM THAT IS VERY, UH, COMPETITIVE WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

UH, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING GOING UP, THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP AND WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER BE, WE AN EQUAL OR A PAR WITH A METROPLEX ARE EVEN WEATHERFORD PD, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE FOLKS.

UM, THE, THE INCREASE THAT WE PUT FORTH, AND I THINK BECKY RAN THE NUMBERS, I THINK, UH, JUST BRINGING PRETTY MUCH THAT WHOLE SCALE UP IS GONNA BE CLOSE TO $1 MILLION.

ABOUT 1.2 WITH BENEFITS? NO, JUST ABOUT 1.2 AND THAT, AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S JUST COMPETITIVE.

IF WE WENT WITH WEATHERFORD, YOU WOULD ADD PROBABLY ANOTHER FIVE OR 600,000 TO GET ON A PAR WITH THEM.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PARITY WITH WEATHERFORD.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE.

AND AGAIN, I I, I KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, BUT UH, THAT'S JUST THE THING.

WE LOOK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 67 DEPUTIES IN PATROL.

THAT INCLUDES SUPERVISORS WHO'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE, DID YOU SAY? BUT 67.

67.

BUT ONE THIRD OF THOSE HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR ON WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

WE KNOW IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO KEEP FOLKS IN ANY INDUSTRY, BUT UH, WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ANSWERING EMERGENCY PHONE OR CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT REALLY COMPARES TO EXPERIENCE.

SO WE, WE WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AT RETAINING THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE TRAINING.

SO I APPRECIATE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING? DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOUR AVERAGE RETENTION RATE IS IN YEARS? I GUESS IT VARIES.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT IF WE DID EVERYBODY, I DON'T KNOW.

HAVE YOU RUN THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU? NO, I HAVEN'T.

I, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER AND THEY'RE GONNA STAY THERE FOREVER.

YES, SIR.

THERE'S ONE RIGHT THERE.

SO .

YEAH.

UM, AND, AND THOSE, WE LOVE TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS.

SURE.

BUT, UH, THE, THE NEW FOLKS DON'T SEEM TO DO THAT QUITE AS MUCH.

THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD AN IDEA.

YEAH, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU CAN KIND OF DO THE SAME JOB JUST BY GOING 20 MILES, YOU KNOW, IN ANY DIRECTION.

IT'S, THEY'RE NOT REALLY MARRIED TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE MARRIED TO THE PROFESSION, THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA STAY IN IT.

RETENTION.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATE FOR US.

WELL, THE RETENTION INFORMATION WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE BY JOB DESCRIPTION.

SO LIKE WE HAVE THOSE DIFFERENT RUNGS ON THAT SPREADSHEET.

SO LIKE THOSE TOP FEW RUNGS ARE THE, UM, ARE THE MOST JUNIOR PEOPLE TYPICALLY ON THAT SPREADSHEET? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT LIST THE STEPS? OH YES.

ON, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

I, SO MR. A'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SPREADSHEET, AND OBVIOUSLY OUR TENURED MORE, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR STUFF ARE GONNA BE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT YOUR STARTING OUT DEPUTY IS I BELIEVE THE FIRST LINE LISTED.

THOSE FIRST FEW LINES.

IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE OUR RETENTION RATE ON THOSE LINES.

IF YOU COULD GET THAT.

LIKE I SAID, AND LIKE I SAID ABOUT THE PATROL GUYS, ABOUT A THIRD OF 'EM ARE RIGHT THERE IN THAT FIRST LINE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, AND THEN I'D ALSO BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY POSITIONS ON AVERAGE ARE OPEN IN THOSE LINES THAT MEAN ARE OPEN? YES SIR.

UH, WE HAVE ONE OPENING RIGHT NOW, ONE OPEN.

GOTCHA.

SO WE ARE GETTING SOME FOLKS, A LOT OF 'EM ARE OUTTA THE ACADEMY AND PRETTY, PRETTY NEW TYPE PEOPLE.

AND, AND WE'RE GONNA TRAIN 'EM AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE 'EM GOOD DEPUTIES OR OFFICERS IF THEY HAPPEN TO MOVE OFF SOMEWHERE.

PERFECT.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL GONNA DO THE BEST WE CAN.

AND I'M, I'M A APOLOGIZING FOR THE PROBABLY VERY SILLY QUESTION, BUT IS THERE A SEASONAL ASPECT TO THE ACADEMY WHERE THEY COME OUT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR? LIKE HOW OFTEN ARE THEY GRADUATING? OH, THERE'S DIFFERENT ONES.

WEATHERFORD, USUALLY THEY'LL HAVE A DAY CLASS AND A NIGHT CLASS SOMETIMES TOO.

I THINK THE YEAR THAT THE NIGHT CLASS OBVIOUSLY TAKES LONGER.

MM-HMM, BECAUSE FEWER HOURS PER WEEK.

GOTCHA.

SO THERE'S ACADEMIES SOMETIMES.

AND ARE THEY STAGGERED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR IS THAT TYPE OF THING WHERE YOU DO A YES, THEY ARE LOT OF HIRING AND YOU KNOW, TWO DIFFERENT MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

THAT'S 'CAUSE IT'S SEASONAL, IT'S IN COUNTY.

I THINK THEY JUST, THEY DO IT WHEN THEY GET ENOUGH FOLKS AND THEY HAVE ENOUGH INSTRUCTOR.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU SHERIFF.

THANK YOU ALL.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

CHECKS ON THE MAIL, SHERIFF.

[02:10:01]

OKAY, SO THAT LEAVES US WITH ITEM H AND I UNDERSTAND CYNTHIA, THAT JUDGE JOHNSON IS IN COURT AND SO SHE SAYS PROBABLY ONE O'CLOCK IS WHEN SHE'S COULD BE AVAILABLE.

SO THAT WOULD LEAVE US WITH THE OPTION THEN, OR OR THE, I GUESS WHAT WE WOULD DO AND THEN AS ADJOURN UNTIL OR RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK.

I WAS GONNA OFFER UP OPTION TWO.

WHEN DO WE HAVE THE NEXT WORKSHOP? LIKE THIS WEEK FROM NOW? NEXT TUESDAY.

OF NEXT TUESDAY.

WHAT ABOUT RESCHEDULING THAT ONE DEPARTMENT FOR THEN RATHER THAN WAITING TILL ONE O'CLOCK? JUDGE RECORDS.

I LIKE IT.

MINE TOO.

TELL HER SHE'S OUT, RESCHEDULE HER.

YOU KNOW WHY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE THAT ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

ARE YOU SURE SHE'S NOT FINISHED UP THERE AT THIS TIME? AT 1130 COMPLETED? I'M GOING DOWNSTAIRS WATCHING CHECKS.

SHE MIGHT BE ON VACATION NEXT.

IS VACATION TIME HERE? THANK YOU CHIEF.

WANNA PAUSE? UH, NOT YET.

SHE SHOULD BE BACK PRETTY QUICK.

UH, WE'LL JUST, WE'RE GONNA JUST GIVE IT A SECOND.

I UNDERSTOOD.

PAUSE.

I DON'T EXPECT THAT ANSWER TO TAKE VERY LONG.

I THINK LYNN IS PRETTY, SHE'S GONNA BE A ONE O'CLOCK.

I THINK IT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

WE WILL TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTE RECESS.

WE'VE GOT A RETURN FROM RECESS.

UH, WE DO HAVE ITEM H PENDING STILL WITH, UM, JUDGE JOHNSON IN COURT AND IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.

UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN OPTIONS ON HOW TO HANDLE THAT.

I I'D SUGGEST THAT WE PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR NEXT, NEXT TIME.

AND WHEN IS, WHEN WOULD THAT BE? WHEN IS THAT DATE? NEXT TUESDAY.

NEXT TUESDAY.

NEXT TUESDAY.

THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM.

WE COORDINATE WITH, UH, JUDGE JOHNSON, IF YOU WOULD ON THAT SO WE CAN COORDINATE THAT AND GET AND ACCOMMODATE HER SCHEDULE.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE GOT ALL THESE IN TODAY, UH, IN THE TIMELY FASHION THAT WE DID, UH, AND JUST MOVING ONE OR, OR RESCHEDULING ONE IS, IS, IS GOOD.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'LL MOVE ITEM TWO AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE.

WE ADJOURN.

WE HAVE MOTION.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR RECORD SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 1137.

THANK.

THANK YOU ALL.