Aug 15, 2024 Commissioners Court Budget Agenda

UM, NO, THAT, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE SHORT BECAUSE IT, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, IF I CAN JUST CUT TO THE QUICK OF IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT A BIG OLD PROBLEM IN OUR HANDS THAT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE AND IT'S JUST GONNA GET WORSE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

BECAUSE THIS COUNTY IS GROWING REALLY FAST.

IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO HOUSE THEM ELSEWHERE, BUT IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD NEW BEDS.

WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR.

IS THAT JUST BOILING IT DOWN? IT IT IS EXPENSIVE.

UM, YOU, THE, THE COST TO CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL BED SPACE, I MEAN, WE JUST SAW IT WITH THIS, THE LITTLE 14 BED THING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, I THINK WHAT $50,000 A BED.

UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF HOW LONG YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO USE, UTILIZE THOSE BED SPACES, IT BRINGS THAT COST YEAR OVER YEAR WAY DOWN.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA PAY, I THINK OVER WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS OVER THE LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL, IT'LL BE COST EFFECTIVE BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE PAYING THOSE ADDITIONAL INCREASED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING OR ADDING ON BED SPACE AS OPPOSED TO SHIPPING OUT INMATES BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO RISE.

$1,500 NOW IS NOT GONNA BE WHAT IT'S LIKE IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

I MEAN, TWO, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A HUNDRED OPEN BEDS, WE HAD FEDS IN, AND NOW WE'RE SHIPPING PRISONERS EVERY DAY.

SO THIS IS, THIS TREND'S GONNA CONTINUE.

IT'LL SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, IT FLUCTUATES WITH THE SEASONS AND STUFF, SUMMER AND WINTER, BUT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO INCREASE, UH, OUR NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BEDS AND ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.

SO CHIEF, LOOKING AT THE SHEETS YOU GAVE US TODAY THERE, UH, MOVING TO THE 525 PRISONER ESTIMATE.

WE ARE SHORT ALREADY FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING THIS YEAR.

WE'RE 16,000,757 THEN ARE WE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL COST OF HOUSING OUT OF COUNTY? THE 442,000 TO THAT? I, NO, SIR.

UM, SO, SO IT'S INCLUDED IN THE 16? YEAH, SO I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH OUR CONTRACTOR.

UM, WE, HE THINKS, AND I THINK IT, THAT WE, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO STAY UNDER THAT 5 25 AND I THINK WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GOOD WITH THE FIGURE THAT WE HAVE UPDATED IN THAT BRIANNA JUST UPDATED.

AND, AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, UH, WHAT'S OUR BUDGET NUMBER FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR? WAS IT ABOUT 12 MILLION? UH, IF YOU'LL GO BACK AND LOOK, UM, RIGHT ABOVE THAT.

SO YEAH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 24 MM-HMM.

, UH, WE BUDGETED $11,960,028.

SO THAT WAS OUR, OUR BUDGET ESTIMATE FOR THE YEAR.

I KNOW WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE YEAR YET, BUT WE'RE THINKING SOMEWHERE IN THE $12 MILLION RANGE BECAUSE

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AND THEN THE, THE ESTIMATE FOR NEXT YEAR IS 16,000,757.

THAT POTENTIALLY COULD, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE HERE, BECAUSE I WAS USING THE 4 MILLION, I GUESS I WAS UNDER AT THE 4 MILLION, WE'RE AT THE, UH, $4.7 MILLION INCREASE JUST FOR THE JAIL.

FROM LAST, THIS CURRENT YEAR TO NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THAT FIGURE TO GO HIGHER.

DEPENDING ON HOW MANY INMATES WE ACTUALLY GET, ALL WE CAN GET IS THE BEST ESTIMATE THAT YOU HAVE FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IT'S GONNA BE $4.75 MILLION THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE BUDGETED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE JAIL.

FOR THE JAIL.

YES, YOUR HONOR.

AND THE REASON I'M MAKING THIS POINT IS BECAUSE THAT ILLUSTRATION, WE, WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE AND WE KNOW IT'S YOUR BEST ESTIMATE THAT YOU HAVE, BUT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S OUT THERE ASKING FOR ANYTHING, THEY HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

EXACTLY.

AND, AND SO AS I TALK ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THINGS, THIS IS NOT AN OPTION.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SAY, GOSH, MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT IN ANOTHER YEAR.

NO, WE'RE GONNA SPEND $4.7 MILLION RIGHT HERE OUT OF THE MONEY THAT THE EXCESS MONEY THAT WE HAVE, THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE DOESN'T INCLUDE INMATE MEDICAL, WHICH IS NOT AS LARGE AS THAT, BUT RIGHT.

INMATE MEDICAL IS A DIFFERENT LINE.

AND WE HAVEN'T INCREASED THAT IN A COUPLE YEARS.

WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING REALLY GOOD ABOUT, UM, FIGHTING, FIGHTING WITH HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL PLANS AND STUFF TO GET THAT DOWN.

UM, SO IF, WHEN WITH THIS DOCUMENT THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU, IF WE ACTUALLY HAD 525 PEOPLE HOUSED OUT, OR 525 TOTAL, WE HAD TO HOUSE THESE, THESE INMATES OUT, THE COST OF HOUSING THEM OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY, THE 50, THE EXTRA 56 INMATES WOULD COST THE COUNTY ALMOST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN IF WE HAD 'EM IN-HOUSE UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE PAY MORE FOR THESE OTHER JAILS.

WE PAY THE TRANSPORTATION COST, UM, WE ACTUALLY GET A REALLY GOOD RATE FROM OUR CONTRACTOR.

UM, AND THEY WORK REALLY WELL FOR US.

THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS THAT GO, GO ALONG WITH OUR CONTRACT.

I MEAN, THEY PAY ALL THE UTILITIES AT THE, AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND JAIL FACILITY.

UM, THEY AT THEIR OWN COST TRANSPORT INMATES TO AND FROM, UH, COURT APPEARANCES, WHICH GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S BETWEEN 20 AND 50 INMATES AT A TIME, WHICH THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR GUARDS, UM, ANYWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND 10 GUARDS AT A TIME TO GO UP THERE AND DO THOSE TRANSPORTS.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY BEAR THAT BURDEN.

IT DOES, IT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT.

SO THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVIDE DEPUTIES TO TRANSPORT THESE INMATES BACK AND FORTH.

AND, AND CHIEF, JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING IN WHO MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UM, CAN YOU INFORM THE PUBLIC ON HOW OFTEN THAT CONTRACT IS UP FOR RENEWAL? WHERE WE WOULD GET A BID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE USED THE TERM THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR.

CONTRACTOR QUITE A FEW TIMES.

SO IF ON THIS DOCUMENT, I'VE, I WENT BACK ALL THE WAY TO FISCAL YEAR 21, 22, OUR PER DIEM RATE BACK THEN WAS $52 AND 30 CENTS A DAY IN 21, 22.

UM, AND THEN AT 2223 IT WENT UP TO 61 50.

AND THEN FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, IT'S 73 80.

AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IT GOES UP TO 87 45.

I I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT HOW OFTEN DO WE LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT THAT'S IN PLACE WITH THE ACTUAL CONTRACTOR IN TERMS OF GETTING BIDS FROM ANOTHER CONTRACTOR? SO THE CONTRACT RUNS THIS CONTRACT THAT THE, THE, THE COURT APPROVED IS FIVE YEARS AND THERE'S A BUILT IN INCREASE IN THE DAILY RATE.

UM, HOWEVER, THE CONTRACTOR AT ANY POINT CAN MAKE A DECISION THAT IS NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR THEM, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES FOR PARKER COUNTY AND STILL BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES.

AND THAT'S BASED ON ITEMS SUCH AS INFLATION OF FOOD COST, ET CETERA.

ABSORB THAT WE, WE DON'T.

UM, SO THEY HAVE THE OPTION, THEY HAVE A 30 DAY OUT, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CONTRACT WE HAVE.

SO IF THEY DECIDE AT ANY POINT THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY, THEY CAN SAY, YOU GUYS GOT 30 DAYS TO GET YOUR AFFAIRS AND ORDER AND WE'RE OUT.

AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HIRE A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES AND TAKE THIS JAIL BACK OVER.

AND AGAIN, FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING, UM, WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE, THE FULL HISTORY, UM, PARKER COUNTY USED TO RUN THE JAIL WITH OUR OWN EMPLOYEES, SIR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND DID WE FIND IT TO BE EXTREMELY ECONOMICAL TO OUTSOURCE THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK I'VE HEARD THE, THE SHERIFF, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S EVER GIVEN ME AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A LAUGH WHEN I'VE ASKED THEM, HEY, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST FOR US TO DO THIS OURSELVES? AND I THINK THE ANSWER HAS ALWAYS BEEN MILLIONS, RADICALLY HIGHER.

WELL, THERE'S ALSO A LIABILITY ISSUE THAT WE, THEY

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AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER WITH THAT CORRECT.

AS WELL.

AND THEN WE RECENTLY HAD A SURPRISE INSPECTION AT THE JAIL, IS THAT CORRECT? WE DID THE, UH, THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE 400 SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIVING 24 7 IN A FACILITY, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FOOD.

AND UH, PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LARGE INDUSTRIAL STYLE KITCHEN AND IT'S SUBJECT TO IN, UH, UH, INSPECTION BY THE CITY, CITY HEALTH INSPECTORS.

AND UH, YEAH, THEY, THEY DO INSPECT US AND THEY INSPECTED US.

WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO? LAST WEEK? LAST WEEK? WHO DID THE CITY, CITY WEATHER? I THINK JACOB, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE JAIL COMMISSION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NO, THE HEALTH, THE, THE HEALTH INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY OF WEATHER HEALTH INSPECTOR.

THE HEALTH INSPECTOR.

THEY CAME INSPECT, I'M INSPECTED THE, THE, THE KITCHEN AREA AND WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT THE JAIL, YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRACTOR GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT INSPECTION.

EXCELLENT.

SO, WHICH IS, DOESN'T GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT.

IT DOESN'T, YEAH.

GOOD JOB.

BUT DOESN'T THE WARDEN HIMSELF EAT? I MEAN, THEY, THEY EAT, THEY, HE DOESN'T GO OUT.

I MEAN, HE, THEY EAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE, THE INMATES IS GOOD FOR THEIR STAFF.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JAIL FOOD, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CHEWY'S OR SOMETHING.

BUT THEY, THEY, THEY GET A LOT OF FOOD, UM, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT, THERE'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE.

IT'S PALATABLE.

NOT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE THERE.

I'VE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY 31 YEARS AND I'VE EATEN BACK THERE A COUPLE TIMES, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONCE AND A COUPLE TIMES.

MORE ONCE ASK, I ASK, ESPECIALLY IN DISPATCH.

WISH YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MENTIONED CHEWY'S THOUGH.

CAN I ASK KIND OF A, A HIGHER, I'M HUNGRY A HIGHER LEVEL QUESTION.

'CAUSE IT, WE'VE HAD SUCH TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF CORRELATE FOR THE RONIN PRO FORMAS, BUT LIKE A CURRENT, UM, POPULATION ESTIMATE, IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THAT KIND OF CAN TRACK WITH, SO THE TEXAS JOE, A GENERAL POPULATION AND IN OUR COUNTY JAIL? YES.

WELL, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE JAIL COMMISSION, BUT THE JAIL COMMISSION DOES PROVIDE COUNTY JAILS WITH, UM, ESTIMATE A 20 YEAR ESTIMATE BASED, BASED ON YOUR CURRENT POPULATION AND WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND WHERE THEY THINK YOU'RE GONNA GO, HOW MANY BEDS YOU SHOULD HAVE AT CERTAIN POINTS RELATIVE TO YOUR POPULATION.

UM, WHENEVER WE, WHENEVER THE COUNTY DID THE LAST JAIL EXPANSION, YOU KNOW, THAT JAIL EXPANSION, I DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS BASED ON THE JAIL STANDARDS NUMBERS THAT THEY EXPECTED IN 20 YEARS THAT WE WOULD BE AT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

WELL, WE HIT THAT IN 17 YEARS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALWAYS JAILS.

AND SO GOING FORWARD AND TALKING TO OUR CONTRACTOR WHO'S HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE JAIL COMMISSION, THE JAIL COMMISSION SAYS THAT WE HAVE, WE AT THIS RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR A THOUSAND BED FACILITY, UM, GOING FORWARD.

AND IF WE HAD A THOUSAND BEDS THAT THAT MAY LAST US, WE MAY BE OKAY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AT THE CURRENT RATE THAT WE'RE GROWING, THOUGH, I, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY OPTIMISTIC.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, IN 15 YEARS THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH BED SPACE CHIEF.

THAT BEING SAID, IF, IF WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE, UM, JUST SNAP OUR FINGERS AND OPEN A THOUSAND BED FACILITY TOMORROW, IS THERE THE ABILITY TO HOUSE EXTERNAL INMATES AS WELL? SO IN OTHER WORDS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR JAIL USED TO BE KEPT SOMEWHAT FULL BECAUSE WE WERE TAKING ON FEDERAL AND WE WERE TAKING ON OTHER FOLKS, INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO SEND OUR PEOPLE OR OUR, UM, INMATES ELSEWHERE.

WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT TO FILL THE BEDS THAT WE'RE NOT USING WITH, UH, HOMEGROWN INMATES? ES ESPECIALLY? UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IF WE OPEN UP BED SPACE, IT WOULD BE FILLED TODAY.

HARRIS COUNTY'S A PRIME EXAMPLE THAT FARMS THEIR INMATES OUT TO LOUISIANA.

UM, HAWAII SENDS THEIR STATE PRISONERS TO ARIZONA.

THERE'S ALWAYS BED SPACE NEEDED.

UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR COSTS WOULD BE COVERED.

I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY'S NOT A PROFIT CENTER, BUT THE COSTS OF THAT WOULD BE COVERED.

IT WOULD NOT BE A STATUTE.

MY UNDER STATE LAW IS THAT WE CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT OFF ANOTHER OF GOVERNOR AGENCY.

BUT WE CAN'T RECUPERATE THE COSTS.

SO IF, AND THIS IS JUST ME TALKING, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAD TO TALK TO JOHN AND, AND OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IF THE COUNTY DECIDED TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD NEW BED SPACE, I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT COST INTO THE DAILY RATE AS, AS FAR AS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR SOMETHING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, UM, CURRENTLY FIVE, FIVE MORE THAN WE WERE HOUSING OUT COUNTY.

AND PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT NOT BEING A PROFIT, BUT REALLY TO RECOVER SOME OF, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDING OR THE, LIKE THE HVAC PROJECT OF REPLACEMENT.

SO OF COURSE THERE'S OTHER COSTS OUTSIDE OF JUST THAT DAILY PER DIEM, BUT BASICALLY MAINTAINING

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THE FACILITIES.

SURE.

SO IF I MAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE AT HAND TO COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S POINT, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE BUDGET THROUGH THE LENS OF $4.7 MILLION.

THAT'S MANDATORY.

WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE.

THAT'S, THAT'S THIS YEAR.

BUT LONG TERM, THIS PROBLEM IS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.

4.7 THIS YEAR IS GONNA TURN INTO WHATEVER NEXT YEAR AND MORE THE NEXT YEAR.

AND MORE THAN THAT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FUNDAMENTALLY OUR PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE SPACE.

SO WHAT I WOULD ASK OF THIS COURT IS, COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS BEEN LEADING THE EFFORTS ON LOOKING AT THE FORT WALTERS LOCATION.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

I THINK WE SHOULD CHASE THAT DOWN.

HATE TO PUT ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.

I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN TALKS AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF EXPANDING THE JAIL WITH ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL FLOORS.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SOME LAST YEAR.

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WHAT I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST IS PUTTING THIS IN VOTERS' HANDS TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S TRULY LONG TERM OF LOOKING AT WHAT IT MIGHT BE TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT EXCITING.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT HUGE OR I KNOW THAT THAT IS HUGE AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT SHOULD GO TO VOTERS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR THE COURT.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WELL, NO, IT'S, WE'RE KIND OF VENTURING OFF HERE, BUT IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE BUDGET AND, AND, UH, FUTURE PLANNING.

AND UH, COMMISSIONER, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF PUTTING TOGETHER TOWN HALLS AND UM, WE HAVE A, I'VE DONE TWO STATE OF THE COUNTIES LATE, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE PHASING IN MORE INTO WHAT, AND WE TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE, WITH A PLAN TO, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE JAIL, UH, THE FORT WALTERS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHEN WE CAN CHASE THAT DOWN AND WORK WITH THAT AND IF THAT'S AN OPTION OR NOT.

WE'LL, WE'LL DETERMINE THAT.

BUT THE JUDGE, WHAT WE CALL, AND WE'VE BEEN DEFINING AND WE HAVE A, A COMMITTEE WHICH, UH, COMMISSIONER HA'S ON, ON THE JUSTICE CENTER.

THAT'S TO INCLUDE A, A STATE-OF-THE-ART NEW JAIL THAT, UH, WE NEED TO MOVE AND, AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT.

AND THE INTENT WOULD BE, UH, TO LOOK AT A FUTURE BOND ON THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE IN THE PAST HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTATION BONDS, IT'S BEEN HARD TO COME BACK AND TIE IN A JUSTICE CENTER BOND EVEN THOUGH WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA GET TO THIS POINT.

UH, WE ARE AT THIS POINT AND TO, TO YOUR ISSUE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, UH, WE WILL BE GOING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THIS COUNTY AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING TO, TO OBVIOUSLY ADDRESS THE, THE ISSUE AT HAND.

ONE, WE'RE SPENDING A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY ON MAINTENANCE FOR BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE EXCEEDED CAPACITY, UH, THE USE OF THESE BUILDINGS, THE AGE OF THESE BUILDINGS, BUT THE NEED FOR A JAIL THAT IS GONNA GET US THROUGH AND GET THESE COSTS DOWN OR WE'RE, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA CRIPPLE OUR BUDGET.

IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, IT'S GONNA GET US IN TROUBLE IF I'M, I'M SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR OUT THERE WITH OUR, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BUT, UH, WE DO NEED A PLAN IN PLACE.

AND THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO TAKE THIS OUT TO THE VOTERS.

UM, AND WE WILL BE TALKING MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS AND, AND WORKSHOPS AND SO FORTH GOING FORWARD.

SO YES, UH, I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I GUESS JUST TO MAKE THIS AS SIMPLE FOR ME AS POSSIBLE, AND I'M GONNA USE VERY ROUNDED NUMBERS HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 12 MILLION BUCKS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THE ONE WE'RE STILL IN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO ABOUT 17 MILLION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THAT'S ABOUT FIVE MORE, PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS, BUT ABOUT FIVE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BY FISCAL 29 GOING TO 25 MILLION.

IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW, WE WILL GET BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW LONG CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES ARE, ET CETERA.

AND WE WILL BE IMPACTED TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT WE EITHER HAVE TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE OTHER COUNTY SERVICES OR DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE TAX RATE.

WELL, HOW MANY EIGHT BALL NOW? THAT'S MY POINT IS JUST HOW MUCH FURTHER WE CONTINUE TO GO UNTIL WE GET A PLAN IN PLACE AND START PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT, BUT YEAH, WE NEED TO KIND OF STAY ON POINT HERE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT YES, WE, WE NEED A PLAN IN PLACE, OBVIOUSLY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU GOT? NO, YOU, YOU GOT ANY GOOD NEWS FOR US OR THAT IT WAS A SURPRISE ? UH, THIS IS NOT A FIGURE THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE COURT THIS YEAR.

NO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

SO, UM, THANK YOU.

SO IT WAS, I BEAT RON UP A LOT ABOUT IT.

NO, THANK YOU.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS SITUATION.

[I.B. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) ]

FUTURE COURT, THE VOTING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT, THAT WAS THE ONLY, UM, CHANGE OF REQUEST.

UH, I'VE PROVIDED YOU ALL SOME SCENARIOS, UM, JUST, JUST TO LOOK AT, OF COURSE.

UM, THERE WILL BE IN A

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AND SO WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO IS TO GIVE YOU GUYS, UM, JUST INFORMATION IF, IF A NO NEW REVENUE RATE WAS NOT ADOPTED, IF YOU WENT ANYTHING ABOVE, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FROM THAT? WHAT IS THE TAX RATE IMPACT? AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR A TAXPAYER? AND SO YOU COULD SEE AT THE TOP IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO OUR THREE TAX RATES.

SO OUR M AND O, OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, WHAT RATE WE NEED TO COVER OUR DEBT SERVICE NEEDS, AND THEN ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, THE TOTAL TAX RATE.

SO YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE RATE I SHOW A NO NEW REVENUE RATE IF WE'RE A PENNY ABOVE 2 CENTS ABOVE VOTER APPROVAL.

AND THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL USING THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL, UM, FOR EACH M AND O ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND THEN IN TOTAL YOU COULD SEE WHAT THOSE TAX RATES ARE, AGAIN, THAT SAME COLLECTION RATE ASSUMPTION OF 98.75% AND THEN THE PROJECTED REVENUE.

UM, THEN YOU CAN SEE I HAVE THE PRIOR YEAR BUDGETED REVENUE.

SO THEN YOU CAN SEE EITHER, UM, INCREASE OR DECREASE OVER PRIOR YEAR PROJECTIONS.

AND THEN THIS NEXT COLUMN SHOWS AT EACH CHANGE, UM, IN THE RATE HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUE IS GENERATED.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE TAX RATE IMPACT.

UM, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF TAXABLE VALUE, WHAT CHANGES THAT? UM, AND THEN THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD IS 338,444.

AND SO ON AVERAGE, HOW WOULD THAT, OR HOW DOES IT IMPACT YOUR AVERAGE TAXPAYER? UM, SO IF YOU WENT TO THE HIGHEST RATE, YOU CAN ADOPT, UM, M AND OINS ROAD AND BRIDGE.

SO THAT OVERALL TOTAL IT WOULD BE $155.

UM, FOR AN AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD, YOU COULD JUST SEE THE INCREASE FROM 37, UM, ON DOWN.

SO THE SECOND SPREADSHEET, LET ME ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE.

SO, UM, TOP LEFT, THERE, NO NEAR REVENUE.

WHEN YOU SAY, UH, IN THE FOURTH LINE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, IS THAT THE ACTUAL RATE THAT WOULD REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL? NO.

OR IS THAT'S GOING UP TO THAT? CORRECT.

AND SO THERE'S TWO, AS I'VE EXPLAINED, THERE'S THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THEN THERE'S THE VOTER APPROVAL USING THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE.

AND SO AGAIN, IF SOMEONE WAS WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT'S WHAT THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL RATE IS, IT'S YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, SO THE HIGHEST RATE YOU CAN APPROVE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, TRIGGERING AN ELECTION AND THEN YOUR ACTUAL ADOPTED RATE.

IF YOU TAKE THAT DIFFERENCE, YOU DO A THREE YEAR LOOK BACK.

THE REASON I WAS ASKING THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE TO GET THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND SEE HOW MUCH EXTRA MONEY WOULD BE GENERATED ON THE M AND O SIDE THERE, FROM GOING UP THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT WOULD BE 10 MILLION MORE DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO FOR M AND O YES, IT'S ABOUT 9.5.

AND THEN ROAD AND BRIDGE ABOUT ONE POINT, ALMOST 1.2.

THE REASON I I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE OUT THERE THAT SAY, WELL JUST RAISE THE TAX RATE TO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO FUND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE FROM THE, FROM THE ASKS THAT WE HAVE TO WHAT THE, THE REALITY IS HERE, IF YOU MIGHT RAISE IT TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT YOU COULD WITHOUT AN ELECTION THERE, INCLUDING THE INCREMENTAL FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, IT WOULD GENERATE 10 MILLION MORE DOLLARS ON THE M AND O SIDE FOUR POINT AND, AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ABOUT 5 MILLION OF IT, WHERE THAT WOULD GO.

SO YES, FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE SITTING THERE SAYING, WELL, GOSH, JUST SET THE TAX RATE AT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FUND EVERYTHING.

UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SORRY.

SO ON THAT SAME LINE ITEM COMMISSIONER WALDEN WAS TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE ON THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD OF 338, 4 44, AT THAT MAXIMUM M AND O RATE, THAT THAT WOULD BE $695, THE AVERAGE INCREASE ON THE 3 38.

SO THE ACTUAL INCREASE YES, MA'AM, MA'AM WOULD BE FOUR M AND O AT THAT VOTER APPROVAL IS, UM, YES.

THE 1 36, NOT THE 6 95, THAT'S THE ACTUAL TAX.

SO, UM, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, I INCLUDED THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO GET TO WAS THE AVERAGE HOME.

ON THAT, THE INFORMATION I'M GIVING YOU IS ACCURATE.

IF THAT MAXIMUM M AND O RATE WAS ADOPTED, IT WOULD BE $136 MORE.

OUR, OUR TAX BILL WILL GO UP 136 FOR THE YEAR.

YES, YES.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET OUT THERE.

YES, THANK YOU.

UM, AND AGAIN, WHEN I'M GIVING SCENARIOS OR CALCULATIONS, I, I WANT SOME COMFORT, RIGHT, THAT IF I'M GIVING YOU INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE MAKING VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS

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UM, SO ONE THING, UM, LAST YEAR WHEN I PUT THIS SCENARIO TOGETHER, UM, ON PCA'S WEBSITE, SO ANY TAXPAYER CAN GO OUT THERE AND THEY CAN PULL UP THEIR OWN HOME OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IT'S THE TRUTH AND TAXATION WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT EACH TAXING ENTITY'S, UM, NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS, WHAT THEIR VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS, AND THEN WHAT RATES THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEN ADOPTING.

AND SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE AS A HOMEOWNER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ADOPT THESE DIFFERENT RATES, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT MY TAX BILL? SO I JUST PULLED AN EXAMPLE, UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU.

AND SO FOR THIS ONE, THE TAXABLE VALUE ON THE HOME IS 547,349.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE ON THAT TOTAL TAX RATE, IF YOU GO RIGHT THE, THAT EXAMPLE COLUMN, THERE'S, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, UM, WHICH IS 1,528.

SO AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UM, FOR THIS IS TOTAL, SO THIS INCLUDES ROAD AND BRIDGE AND YOUR M AND O AND DEBT SERVICE, THIS TAXPAYER WOULD PAY $1,528.

AND SO THE LITTLE SNIP THAT YOU SEE IS FROM THE WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SEE THE TAX LEVY SHOWS $1,528 AND 41 CENTS.

SO MINE'S ROUNDED.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE IT'S CALCULATING THAT SAME AMOUNT.

AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE VOTER APPROVAL WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENTAL, UM, IT WOULD BE $1,780.

AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE MINE'S PROJECTING THAT.

SO FOR THIS HOMEOWNER, AGAIN, IT'S HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE, IT'D BE $252 A YEAR.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST TO DEMONSTRATE, UM, YOU CAN PUT ANY NUMBER IN THERE, BUT THAT MY CALCULATION IS CALCULATING WHAT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, TIME BACK TO, TO PA, THE TRUTH AND TAXATION WEBSITE.

SO AGAIN, THERE WILL BE NO, YOU KNOW, VOTING ON THE TAX RATE TODAY.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE THAT, WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT IT ON THE 20TH, BUT WE CAN EITHER DO THAT AT THE 26TH COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR WE CAN HOLD A SPECIAL COURT THE NEXT WEEK DEPENDING ON WHERE WE'RE AT TO VOTE ON A PROPOSED RATE.

AND AGAIN, ONCE YOU SET THAT CEILING, YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE THAT, BUT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, ADOPT ANYWHERE BELOW THAT.

AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE RATE AND THEN THE, THE RATE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SET AND APPROVED WHEN WE, UM, WHEN YOU ALL VOTE ON THE BUDGET AT THE LAST COURT IN SEPTEMBER.

SO AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU DON'T ADOPT AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO ADOPT THAT RATE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS WITHIN THAT SEVEN DAYS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SET YOUR BUDGET AND THEN YOUR TAX RATE.

ALRIGHT.

D ON IT PROJECTS AND BUDGET REQUESTS.

ANYTHING ELSE? SO THAT TAKES US, THAT TAKES US TO BUILDING AND GROUNDS PROJECTS AND BUDGET REQUEST UPDATES.

UM, IS IS MARK HERE? OKAY, WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT ON ITEM

[I.D. IT Projects & Budget Requests Update. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) ]

UH, JAMES HAS REQUESTED THAT WE PUSH THIS OUT TO EIGHT 20 ON

[Items I.E & I.F ]

ITEM E CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUESTS, KIM.

GOOD MORNING.

SO WE'LL JUST GET DOWN TO IT AND START WITH A CAP, NON CAP.

THIS IS NOT INCLUDING ANY IT RELATED REQUESTS, AS YOU SAID JAMES IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE NEXT HERE.

AND, UM, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST THAT IF YOU, UM, AUTHORIZE OR APPROVE THE NEW, NEW POSITIONS THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH THEM.

SO THIS IS JUST CURRENT NEEDS FOR CURRENT DEPARTMENTS GENERAL FUND.

SO WE'LL START WITH, UM, DEPARTMENT 4 0 3 COUNTY CLERK RECORDS AND DEEDS.

THEY'RE REQUESTING HIGH BACK OFFICE CHAIRS, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF $500 COUNTY CLERK COURT DIVISION.

WHAT'S THE TOTAL, THE 500 FOR TWO CHAIRS.

TWO CHAIRS.

WHERE DOES IT SAY TWO CHAIRS? OH, IT DON'T, IT DOESN'T, SORRY.

IT'S JUST A, IT'S TWO CHAIRS.

TWO CHAIRS.

JUST PUT A TWO IN THERE.

THAT FIVE HUNDREDS FOR BOTH CHAIRS.

OF PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED NEW COSTS SUCH AS THE 4.7 MILLION FOR THE JAIL.

BEFORE WE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT YOU, I APOLOGIZE, YOU'RE, BUT JUST FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING, BRIANNA, DO YOU MIND GIVING US A VERY QUICK UPDATE FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF, BASICALLY WE ALREADY HAVE X AMOUNT COMMITTED.

I KNOW WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY APPROVED MUCH, BUT IF WE KEEP THE SAME EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, WE HAVE ABOUT X COMMITTED, WE HAVE ABOUT Y

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SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING THESE THINGS, JUST FOR THE FOLKS ONLINE ABOUT HOW, WHAT IS THE DELTA? IF WE KEEP OUR CURRENT TAX RATE, WE USE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, NOT CURRENT, SO NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

WHAT IS THE DELTA BETWEEN IF WE KEEP EVERYTHING AS IS AND WE ADD ON THE 4.7, UM, A PORTION OF THAT FOUR, A PORTION OF THAT 4.7 WAS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO THE 7 57 I NOTED TODAY IS THE INCREASE.

UM, I BALANCED THE PROPOSED BUDGET BY 1.1 MILLION COMING FROM FUND BALANCE.

AND SO I THINK I HAD, WHICH I KNOW I THINK SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK I HAD ABOUT FROM MY SUMMARY YESTERDAY, I COULD LOOK BUT LIKE 7.6 MILLION IN REQUESTS.

AND AGAIN, ONE THING THAT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT WAS A COLA, UM, IF ANYTHING ON THE, SO STEP GRADE IS INCREASED AND THEN, UM, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS BEING ROLLED OVER.

SO REAPPROPRIATED, SO WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE ALREADY BASICALLY 1.1 IN THE HOLE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BORROW FROM SAVINGS CORRECT.

BEFORE WE APPROVE ANYTHING NEW AT ALL.

BUT REALLY WE'RE MORE LIKE 1.8 IN THE HOLE BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL 700.

SO WE'RE ABOUT 2 MILLION BUCKS IN THE HOLE FROM A STARTING POSITION BEFORE WE APPROVE A SINGLE NEW TRUCK COLA STEPPING GRADE FOR THE SO ET CETERA.

AND SO THAT WAS RIGHT.

AND SO, UM, AS I SHOWED YOU ON THE CHANGE OF, YES, OVERALL IT'S AN, IT'S AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, BUT FOR GENERAL FUND IT'S A $2.1 MILLION DECREASE AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

NOW FOR, I I DO WANNA CLARIFY ONE OF MY COMMENTS JUST NOW.

'CAUSE THIS ISN'T, THIS IS SOMETHING I WAS UNAWARE OF UNTIL I KIND OF GOT INTO THE WEEDS OF IT LAST YEAR.

WHEN I SAY IN THE HOLE, WE DO ROLL OVER A DECENT AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT'S UNUSED DUE TO BUDGETED POSITIONS THAT ARE UNFILLED, ET CETERA.

SO WE'RE NOT BORROWING THAT MONEY PER SE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE USING, IT'S REALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THE ACCUMULATED UNUSED PORTIONS FROM PRIOR YEARS.

YES, THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE.

LINES, UM, MORE THAN THIS AMOUNT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING ONLINE, BRIANNA, THE, THE NUMBER YOU JUST GAVE THAT, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 2.151 THAT, UM, WOULD NEED TO KEEP US AT OR, OR TO SET THAT AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOING INTO THIS.

WE, WE ALREADY WERE 2.51 2,000,151.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT IN ADDITION JUST ON OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE? RIGHT.

SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STREAMS OF REVENUE, ONE THAT INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY WAS SALES TAX, THE PROJECTION THERE, BUT OF COURSE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR OTHER, UM, FEES OF OFFICE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW OTHERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, LIKE I SAID, THE JAIL REVENUE, UM, TELEPHONE REVENUE FROM THE JAIL, WHICH I THINK WAS BUDGET LIKE 350,000 IS NOW ZEROED OUT DUE TO THE CHANGE, UM, FROM FCC REGULATIONS.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STREAMS. SOME ARE UP, SOME ARE DOWN.

UM, I'LL PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER JUST LOOK, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE DO ADOPTION TO SEE IF WE'RE SEEING ANY CHANGES IN, IN TRENDS, BUT, OKAY.

THANK YOU KIM.

UM, DEPARTMENT 4 0 4 COUNTY CLERK COURT DIVISION.

AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME, UM, A COUNTER HOT TABLE FOR $330 AND A NATURAL WOOD LITERATURE STAND HOLDS SIX POCKETS, UM, FOR 6 75, A TOTAL OF $1,005.

AND IF I MAY, SINCE I'M HERE, UH, JUST TALK ABOUT THESE REQUESTS AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE FOR.

SO, UM, THE TWO CHAIRS FOR $500 IS JUST TWO WORN OUT CHAIRS.

WE HAVE AT OUR FRONT COUNTER, THOSE HIGH BACK CHAIRS.

AND SO IN 4 0 4 IN THE COURT DIVISION, THE, UH, COUNTER HEIGHT TABLE AND THE, UH, LITERATURE STAND THAT'S FOR THIS BUILDING.

AND IT'S BECAUSE WE CAN'T HANG THINGS ON THE WALL AND THERE'S CERTAIN FORMS THAT I'M REQUIRED BY LAW TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC AND WE DON'T ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS INSIDE THE OFFICE.

WE HANDLE ALL THE BUSINESS FROM THIS WINDOW AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO, YOU CAN'T SEE OUT THE WINDOW IF I POST EVERYTHING I HAVE TO.

SO THE LITERATURE STAND IS SIMILAR TO THE STAND OUT HERE WHERE WE PUT ALL OF OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDAS AND THE MEETINGS.

SO IT WILL BE OVER HERE FOR, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS OFFICE.

AND THEN THE, THE TABLE IS JUST A, THE TABLE, IT'S KIND OF GOT A NATURAL WOOD LOOK THAT WOULD BLEND IN WITH THE COURTHOUSE SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FILL OUT THEIR PAPERWORK.

IT'S JUST SO WHEN THEY GET DONE WITH COURT, THEY CAN COME DOWN HERE, FILL OUT THEIR PAPERWORK.

SO, UH, FOR D RECORDS AND THE COURT DIVISION, IT'S A TOTAL OF $1,505.

BUT, UM, MY BUDGET, I'VE ALSO REDUCED, UH, SEVERAL OTHER

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SO IT'S JUST COMING FROM SEPARATE FUNDS.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MOVING ON TO DEPARTMENT 4 0 6, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

UM, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT WAS TURNED IN BY THE FORMER, UM, EMERGENCY OFFICES COORDINATOR, UM, INCLUDED $20,603.

AND THAT'S FOR EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO A SMALL TRAILER THAT'S, UM, KEPT OVER AT THE WEATHERFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION FOUR.

IT'S A CONFINED SPACE TRAILER, AND ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS, UM, FOR THAT TRAILER AND IT'S USED FOR, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF REPELLING EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT IF NEEDED FOR THOSE KINDS OF SERVICES.

I TALKED TO KURT HARRIS ABOUT THIS, UM, TO SEE IF THIS WAS STILL NEEDED.

UM, AND HE SAID THAT IT HAD BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDER, UM, SELLING OR DONATING THAT TRAILER TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT USE IT MOSTLY, BUT IT'S STILL AVAILABLE TO ALL THE, THE ESDS AND, AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UM, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE NONE OF THESE EXPENSES, OR IF WE DON'T DONATE IT AND WE REQUEST, WE COULD REQUEST THAT THE CITY PAY FOR HALF OF THE EQUIPMENT.

UM, SO I THINK AT A MINIMUM, TAKE THAT DOWN TO 10,300, BUT I MEAN, DEPENDING ON THE COURTS, WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE TO DO WITH THE TRAILER.

SO WE DO, IF WE DID DONATE IT TO THEM, THEN THEY WOULD MAIN, THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE THE MAINTENANCE OF IT AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT.

WITH OWNERSHIP, YES, SIR.

SO, AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO UNDER, UH, 4 0 6 THE, SOME RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR $4,262.

THIS WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE RADIO PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED BY ARPA.

UM, THERE HAD BEEN A LARGE, UM, CONSOLE PROJECT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR BUDGET THAT, UM, MR. KAYWOOD HAS SAID WE DON'T NEED BECAUSE THERE'S TWO, UM, SPARE CONSOLES THAT WE CAN REPLACE THE, TO, UM, FILL IN THE NEED FOR THIS.

SO THAT WAS 1.9 MILLION THAT WAS REMOVED FOR A TOTAL OF $24,865, UM, DEPENDING ON THAT $20,000 EXPENSE.

MOVING DOWN TO COUNTY COURT AT LAW DEPARTMENT 4 39, UM, SHE'S REQUESTING, UM, SOME GEAR FOR HER BAILIFF, UH, AND THEN SOME, UM, FOR HER AUDIO VISUAL SYSTEM.

UM, THERE'S SOME FIRMWARE SOFTWARE UPDATES THAT NEED TO BE MADE AND AV ADDITIONS AND FOR A TOTAL OF $20,400 FOR HER DEPARTMENT.

Y'ALL STOP ME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

I, I THINK ONE OF, I THINK THE COMMUNICATION CONCEPT, THE CURRENT BUDGET, I CAN LOOK BUT BECAUSE OF TEMPORARILY RELOCATING FOR THE, SO THAT COULD BE A ROLLOVER, IT COULD BE OKAY.

ASKING FOR AGAIN, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY IT DONE.

A PIECE, AND THEN LIGHTS AND SIRENS FOR THOSE VEHICLES FOR 33 84, THAT'D BE A TOTAL OF $81,384.

SO, UM, FOR THE JUSTICE PRE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT THREE DEPARTMENT 4 63, THEY HAVE FUND 57 FUNDS AND THEY'RE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS, BUT YOU, THE COURT STILL HAS TO APPROVE THOSE.

UM, AND THESE ARE ALL CONTINGENCY ITEMS. THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, OFFICE EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY OF $2,000, ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, NON CAP OF 5,000 IN ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT CAP AT 10,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $17,000.

THE, DO THEY HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT NOW THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO UPGRADE OR IS IT ALL NEW STUFF? IT, IT WOULD BE CONTINGENCY IF THEY NEEDED SOMETHING TO REPLACE SOMETHING THAT GOES OUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, SO, UM, FOR THE MEDICAL INVESTIGATOR, SHE, UM, RECENTLY, UM, THERE WAS A TRANSFER OF AN ENCLOSED TRAILER FROM 4 0 6 TO 4 74 AND SHE U USES IT TO GO OUT AND ABOUT ON CALLS AND THEY, SHE'LL NEED A GENERATOR ON IT.

IT BECAUSE SHE CAN'T LEAVE THE SCENE UNTIL EVERYTHING IS, IS WRAPPED UP, ALL EVIDENCE IS FOUND OR WHAT, WHATEVER.

UM, SO SHE NEEDS A EIGHT K GENERATOR FOR THIS TRAILER THAT'S FOR $1,250.

AND THEN DECALS TO GO ON THE TRAILER TO, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFY THAT IT'S A COUNTY VEHICLE OR COUNTY TRAILER FOR 460 TOTAL IS 1710.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR TWO UM, SUVS FOR A TOTAL OF $39,000

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THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DEPARTMENT 4 76, UM, THEY'VE ASKED FOR A CONTINGENCY FOR OFFICE FURNITURE FOR $3,000.

THEY'RE NEEDING, UM, THREE NEW PROTECTIVE VESTS FOR THEIR INVESTIGATORS TOTAL OF $7,500.

AND THEN ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY, UM, OF $3,000 AS WELL, TOTAL OF 13,500 FOR ALL OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, THESE CONTINGENCY LINES ARE, IF THEY HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT BREAKS DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, BLUETOOTH, UM, EQUIPMENT FOR THE COURTROOMS AND, AND BLU-RAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT THEY NEED.

UM, MOVING DOWN TO ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOUR 90, THEY ARE REQUESTING THREE OFFICE CHAIRS FOR A TOTAL OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS A LAMINATOR THAT'S $200.

AND THEN THEY NEED V DRIVES FOR EACH OF THE, UH, ELECTIONS MACHINES.

AND THOSE ARE THREE, $3,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 13,000, I'M SORRY, $200 FOR $13,400 OR A TOTAL BUDGET REQUEST OF 14,600.

THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR OFFICE FURNITURE , JUST IN CASE BUILDING AND GROUNDS.

DEPARTMENT FIVE 10 IS REQUESTING TWO UM, CHEVROLET SILVERADO PICKUPS.

UH, I BELIEVE ONE'S A THREE QUARTER TON, ONE'S A HALF TON.

UM, THE THREE QUARTER TON, 63,000, THE HALF TON IS 50,000.

UH, THEY NEED $8,000 IN THEIR SMALL TOOLS LINE AND THAT THAT REPLACES, UM, WEED EATERS LAWN EQUIPMENT.

THEY ALSO HAVE A GROUNDS EQUIPMENT FOR 8,000, BUT ALL ALL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED FOR WEAR AND TEAR.

AND THEN THE HVAC EQUIPMENT TO, UH, REPLACE SOME OF THE UNITS IN THE COUNTY FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL OF 229,000.

THE NORTH CONVENIENCE CENTER DEPARTMENT FIVE 11 IS REQUESTING A ROLLER FOR 7,500.

THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER IS REQUESTING A BACKHOE FOR 136,727 AND A TRACTOR FOR 30,000, A TOTAL OF 1 66 7 27.

FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, UM, FOR THREE POSITIONS FOR A TOTAL OF $4,500.

MOVING DOWN TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOW, UM, DISPATCH THE CHAIRS THAT THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE 24 7 USED.

UM, AND SO THEY, THEY GET WORN OUT AND WE REPLACE THOSE YEARLY.

UM, THEY NEED FOUR LARGE CHAIRS FOR $2,000 AND THEN EIGHT REGULAR CHAIRS FOR $1,800.

AGAIN, THESE DISPATCHERS 24 7, THE USE OF THE HAND HEADSETS.

SO THEY NEED SEVEN NEW HEADSETS FOR A TOTAL OF $61,086.

AND THEN THEIR 9 1 1 RECORDER NEEDS A REFRESH UPGRADE FOR 23,514 FOR A TOTAL OF $33,500.

EXCUSE ME, CONSTABLE ONE IS REQUESTING A BED COVER FOR $1,400, A GRILL GUARD FOR $983, A NEW VEHICLE, $62,321.

THE OUTFITTING OF THIS VEHICLE FOR $8,125 AT RADIO 96,000 $9,643.

AND THEN AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY, JUST IN CASE SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN, UH, $5,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 87,472.

CONSTABLE TWO DEPARTMENT 5 52 IS REQUESTING A, A VEHICLE OF 60,000.

THE OUTFITTING OF THAT VEHICLE FOR 20,000, THEY'VE REQUESTED THREE VEHICLE MOUNTS.

UM, I PUT 1971 ON THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A UPDATED QUOTE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK ON THAT ITEM.

KIM, DO YOU MIND IF WE HIT PAUSE THERE FOR JUST A SECOND? SURE.

SO AS I'M LOOKING THROUGH THESE CONSTABLE OUTFITTINGS FOR 1, 2, 3, I DON'T SEE FOUR ON HERE.

FOUR'S NOT REQUESTING ANY NEW VEHICLES.

IT, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES IN PRICING.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STANDARDIZE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT OR ARE THERE JUST DIFFERENT NEEDS? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

THEY OUTFIT 'EM DIFFERENTLY.

WAS ONE YOU JUST SAID WAS FROM DEFENDER, WHICH IS ONE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NORMALLY USES AND WE'VE USED LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT'S A LITTLE UNDER THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR ACTUALLY.

I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN PRICING.

I IMAGINE SOME ARE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VERSUS TWO WHEEL DRIVE OR LIFTED UP A WHOLE LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE OUTFITTING.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU GET YOUR QUOTES.

I'M ASSUMING.

UH, THE ONE I GOT

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AND THE OTHERS, I'M NOT TOO SURE WHERE THEY GOT THEIRS BIDS FROM.

WELL, I DO KNOW THAT MY CONSTABLE WHO'S NOT HERE, OR THE CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT TWO YES, SIR.

WHO'S NOT HERE, HE DOES DO TRANSPORT QUITE A BIT.

AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT ONE'S HIGHER, BUT I WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE JUST STANDARDS ON OR I JUST, WHEN I SAW THE DIFFERENCES, I I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I MEAN, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN NEEDS AND WANTS TYPE DEAL, I THINK THE WAY SURE, SURE.

DID WE, UH, I'LL INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN.

AT ONE POINT A LONG TIME AGO, DID WE NOT HAVE A STANDARDIZED VEHICLE THAT WE PURCHASED FOR THE COUNTY? IN OTHER WORDS, UH, COLOR AN OUTFITTING EQUIPMENT ON THE VEHICLE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN A POLICY FOR THAT.

UM, WE USED TO, EVERYBODY HAD THE WHITE VEHICLES AND SO FAR I KNOW, UM, LIKE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, LIKE FOR THEIR INVESTIGATORS AND SUCH, THEY DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE TO USE WHITE.

BECAUSE IT'S VERY OBVIOUS.

UH, WELL SURE.

IF YOU LOOK OUT ON THE ROADS TODAY, HALF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE DRIVEN EVEN THAT AREN'T FLEET VEHICLES ARE WHITE.

UM, BUT THEY TEND TO NOT GIVE THEIR SELVES AWAY UNDERSTAND VEHICLE.

UNDERSTAND I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN POLICY AND I, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT, BUT I JUST, I DON'T THINKS THAT POLICY ON THE WE DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE FLEET POLICY.

GO BACK TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER ON THE GENERATOR.

MM-HMM, , UM, THE, THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER HAD A GENERATOR IN IT.

THE PREVIOUS, UH, DIRECTOR TOOK IT OUT AND IT'S JUST THERE.

COULD WE POSSIBLY DO TRANSFER FOR THAT ONE? WILL THAT MEET YOUR NEEDS? I, ANYTHING WAS IN THERE BUT I MARSHAL WERE GONNA USE IT OR WHAT? I DUNNO HOW IT'S THERE, BUT IT WAS IN THERE.

YEAH, IT'S IN, SO IT'S USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

NOW YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW OR NO PRECINCT.

YEAH, THE ONES OUT PRECINCT ONE ARE BRAND NEW.

THEY HAVE HARDLY BEEN USED AT ALL.

WELL, I, WE GOT THERE'S TWO IN RIGHT.

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S ONE Y'ALL USED WITHOUT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT BEING USED, ARE THEY BEING USED? NO, THEY'RE THERE FOR EMERGENCIES.

WE HAVE TRAILER JUST HAD BATTERY PUT IN IT AND IT'S READY TO GO.

COULD IT NOT BE USED FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER AND ALSO STILL BE AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY USES? I I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PROBABLY EXCESS UNUSED EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD SAY, I MEAN WE HAVE A RESOURCE HERE.

WE CAN, AND I THINK WE CAN BE JOINTLY USED EASILY.

THEY WERE PUT OUT THERE FOR EMERGENCIES, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE EMERGENCIES THROUGH THAT CERT GRANT DEAL.

NOW IF THEY'RE BOUGHT WAS CERT GRANT, DOES IT MATTER IF IT TRANSFERS OUT TO 4 74? IS THAT AN ISSUE? OKAY.

OR SOMETHING? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S IN CHARGE OF THAT ANYMORE.

RANDY IS, RANDY IS, YES, SIR.

IS THAT A GROUP THAT KIT WAS RUNNING? IS IT STILL IN EFFECT? THATER DEAL? 13.

13.

THOSE, THOSE TWO TRA THE TWO GENERATORS THAT ARE IN THAT SHED, THOSE WOULD BE FOR THE CER.

BUT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IN THE TRAILER OVER IT WAS PULLED OUT THAT TRAILER, GARAGE ROTTED TIRES REPLACED AND OF COURSE IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR A YEAR, SO I HAD TO GET THE BATTERY PART AND GOT THAT, GOT PUT IT ON AND WE MOVED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHILE SHE WAS GONNA BE TAKING APART INSIDE THE, THE TRAILER SHE HAS.

IT IT, IT'S NOT BEING USED.

IT NEEDS TO BE USED.

WELL, IT'S, THERE

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WE GO.

WELL, THERE YEAH, IF, UH, IT BE SHARED BY BOTH DEPARTMENTS.

YEAH, OR WHOEVER.

HEY, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU NEED TO BRING IT TO THE COUNTY BARN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT.

CAR NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OUT.

YEAH, IF YOU'LL BRING IT OVER THERE, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

I'M GONNA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, WE RECESS THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AT 9 57.

LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT A PROMPT 10 MINUTE RECESS IF WE CAN AND BE BACK HERE AT 10 10.

UM, IT, IT SHUT OFF.

SO MAYBE THEY'LL GIVE YOU, WE'RE GONNA RESUME THE, UH, WORKSHOP.

UM, KIM, AT WHAT TIME IS IT JUDGE? UM, RECORDS SHOW AT 10 11.

THREE DOCKING STATIONS FOR 27 30 10 GPS ANTENNAS FOR 69, 64, 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS FOR $5,800, 26 STOP STICKS FOR USE FOR PRO UH, PURSUITS.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

OKAY, TO CONTINUE DEPARTMENT 5 52, CONSTABLE TWO, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE SETS OF SOFT BODY ARMOR FOR A TOTAL OF $8,000.

A BALLISTIC SHIELD FOR $1,611.

UM, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT, CONTINGENCY FOR REPAIRS AND SO FORTH.

UM, $5,000 AND THEY'RE NEEDING A SHIPPING CONTAINER TO STORE SOME OF THE, THEIR, UM, STUFF BECAUSE OF THEIR LIMITED SPACE IN THEIR DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $5,000 FOR OVERALL BUDGET REQUESTS OF 101,000, WELL, ACTUALLY ABOUT 99,005 80 IF YOU REMOVE THAT.

1971.

UM, CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3 553.

UM, REQUESTING $2,000 WORTH OF PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT.

THEY NEED A RADIO.

THEY'RE $8,500, UM, A DESK FOR ABOUT $3,500.

THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, SIX FULL SETS OF UNIFORMS AND THOSE ARE $1,200 A P THREE SETS, THREE SETS OF UNIFORMS, THREE FULL SETS OF UNIFORMS FOR $3,600.

AND THEN THE CHIEF DEPUTIES WOULD BE $600 'CAUSE HE WILL, HE WON'T WEAR THE FULL UNIFORM.

UM, AND THEN THE DRONE, THEY'RE LIKE ASKING FOR A DRONE, UH, FOR $8,000, A VEHICLE FOR 63,321.

THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE IS 25,000.

AND THEN A CONTINGENCY FOR AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT OF $5,000 TOTAL OF 119,521.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, ADMIN DEPARTMENT OF FIVE 60.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES TO WHAT IS ON YOUR LIST.

UM, THEY'RE NEEDING THE SWAT ENTRY HELMETS, TWO OF THOSE, AND THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE HELMETS.

IT'S A TOTAL OF 8,000.

SWAT GAS MASKS 12 OF THOSE FOR A TOTAL OF 20,640.

THEY HAVE, UM, REMOVED THE 5.56 ENTRY RAFFLES, UM, THAT $12,000.

SO THAT'S TAKEN OFF.

WE'RE NEEDING , WE'RE NEED, THEY'RE NEEDING THE SWAT TOE HOOKS AND STRAPS.

$750.

THE FLASH BANG POLES, $2,600.

THE HEAVY TACTICAL VEST, TWO OF THOSE FOR $11,600.

FOUR SWAT RAFFLE SHIELDS FOR 23 $2,200.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO TAKING OFF THAT SWAT, UH, 3 38 SNIPER RAFFLE WITH OPTICS THAT $10,000 IS REMOVED.

SO THAT CHANGES THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO 66,790 FOR SHERIFF ADMIN.

FOR SWAT EQUIPMENT FOR SPECIAL CRUMBS DEPARTMENT 5 61, THEY'RE ASKING FOR TWO POLE CAMS FOR $7,200 AND TWO RAFFLE RATED SHIELDS FOR $5,800 BRINGS A TOTAL OF $13,000.

THE INVESTIGATORS DEPARTMENT 5 62, THEY'RE NEEDING, UH, $4,000 WORTH OF CRIME SCENE EQUIPMENT.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HALF DONE HALF TON TRUCK FOR 43,612 AND A FOUR BY FOUR HALF TON TRUCK.

TWO OF THOSE TOTAL UP TO 105,422.

AND THEN THE VEHICLE OUTFITTING FOR THESE VEHICLES OF 29,853 TOTAL OF 182,887.

MOVING ON TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PATROL DEPARTMENT 5 63.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR 10 PATROL JACKETS FOR $8,600.

THEY'VE TAKEN OFF THE FLASHLIGHTS, THE A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THEY'VE REMOVED THAT THEY'RE NEEDING 20 BREACHING TOOLS FOR $9,400.

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$13,000, 30 SETS OF BODY ARMOR FOR $30,000.

FOUR VEHICLE COMMAND BOARDS FOR $4,000.

THEY'VE TAKEN THE TRAFFIC CONES OFF 'CAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO BUY THAT, UM, FROM TAX GENEROUS DONATION.

UM, ALSO THEY NEED 20 IN-VEHICLE TRAUMA KITS.

THAT'S $2,600.

20 PERSONAL TRAUMA KITS FOR $1,800.

FOUR HANDHELD RADAR UNITS, $5,600, 20 GAS MASKS, $11,500 REPLACEMENT FILTERS.

20 OF THOSE $3,600.

THE AXON.

UM, IS THAT BODY CAMERAS? CAN I, CAN I ASK A JUST REAL YES.

REMEDIAL QUESTION.

THESE TRAUMA KITS, THE END VEHICLE AND PERSONAL, I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE NON REUSABLE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS A KIT THAT'S OPENED THAT'S USED TO TREAT PHYSICAL TRAUMA AT A SCENE AND THEN YOU CAN'T USE IT AGAIN.

OR ARE THESE REUSABLE? UH, YEAH.

IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S A PACKAGE DEAL.

UM, SO THE PERSONAL TRAUMA KITS COME WITH, THEY, THEY WEAR 'EM ON THEIR BELT, UH, FOR THEM TO USE.

IT COMES WITH TOURNIQUET, UH, STOP THE BLEED POWDER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ONES INSIDE THE VEHICLE ARE MORE FOR FIRST RESPONDER TYPE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE GONNA TREAT SOMEBODY.

UM, WE CAN REFILL THEM.

UM, IT'S NOT REALLY SO, SO COST EFFECTIVE SOMETIMES, UM, THEY GET A LOT OF DAMAGE, YOU KNOW, THEY WEAR 'EM EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE GONNA GET SNAGGED, THEY GET HOOKED.

SO, UM, AND THEN USUALLY WHENEVER THEY USE THOSE ITEMS, WE DON'T HAVE SPARES.

WE JUST GENERALLY JUST REPLACE IT.

OKAY, SO THE AXON, UM, BODY MOUNT, THERE'S 50 OF THOSE REQUESTED FOR $2,500.

THEY'VE TAKEN THE TRAFFIC VEST OFF THE $800.

AGAIN, TAC DONATIONS, OC SPRAY, WHICH IS PEPPER SPRAY, UM, 20 OF THOSE FOR $500.

20 BALLISTIC HELMETS FOR $5,400, FOUR PORTABLE BREATH TESTERS FOR $1,900, FOUR WINDOW TENT METERS FOR $480.

AND NOW TO THE BIG STUFF THEY'RE REQUESTING 12 DURANGO POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLES, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF $612,888.

THE OUTFITTING OF THOSE 12 VEHICLES WOULD BE $276,000.

THE STRIPING WOULD BE $5,400.

AND THERE WAS SOME EXTRA MOBILE RADIOS THAT WERE LOCATED.

AND SO THE 12 HAS BEEN CHANGED TO SIX, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 63,300 1614 RIFLE SHIELDS FOR $81,200 AND FOUR IN-CAR RADAR UNITS FOR $8,000.

SO WITH THOSE, REMOVING THOSE ITEMS, UM, THAT BRINGS THAT TOTAL FOR PATROL'S CAP ON CAP TO $1,163,174.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PATROL? MOVING ON TO TRAINING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPARTMENT 5 64 REQUESTING FOUR ADJUSTABLE.

TARGET STANDS FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS, TWO SHOT TIMERS FOR $260.

SIM TRAINING.

GUMBOS FOUR OF THOSE FOR $1,500.

TWO SIM TRAINING ROUNDS FOR $2,240.

PAPER TARGETS FOR $310.

FOUR STILL TARGETS A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND 180 TASER TRAINING ROUNDS FOR $7,245.

MAKES A TOTAL OF $12,655 FOR TRAINING.

MOVING TO ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENT FIVE 60, THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO THREE QUARTER TON TRUCKS.

TOTAL OF 108,400.

IS THERE, ISN'T THERE A SHARED COST ON THAT? I MEAN, BETWEEN US AND ANIMAL CONTROL? I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A SHARED COST ON THIS.

ARE WE, ARE WE BUYING THOSE VEHICLES OURSELVES FOR, FOR ANIMAL CONTROL? YEAH.

THE THREE-FOURTHS TON TRUCK TIMES TWO.

SIX TRANSFER CAGES, $600, AND THEN ROPES, HALTERS LEAVES, CATCH PULLS, BITE GLOVES, ET CETERA.

THERE'S NO SHARED COST WITH WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CITY? YEAH, NO, SIR.

OH, OKAY.

WISHFUL THINKING.

, THE OUTFITTING OF THOSE TWO TRUCKS, UM, 30,180, THE STRIPING IS 900, AND THE GPS ANTENNA IS $464.

THEY'RE NEEDING SIX SUMMER DOG BOXES FOR $10,800.

TWO DOG TRAPS FOR $1,200,

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UM, SUPPLIES FOR $1,500 BRINGS THEIR TOTAL REQUEST TO ONE FIFTY FOUR, A HUNDRED FIFTY $4,044 FU FUGITIVE TRANSPORT DEPARTMENT 5 68.

THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE APPLE AIR TAGS, UM, FOR $600 HANDCUFFS, LEG IRONS, BELLY BELTS, $500, TWO TAHOE PPVS FOR $120,000 IN THE OUTFITTING OF THOSE VEHICLES.

$8,928 TOTAL OF $130,028.

THE NORTH DPS OFFICE OUTTA SPRINGTOWN IS, UM, REQUESTING THEIR ALLOCATION OF $3,000 FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT.

IT, IT, DEPARTMENT 5 82 IS REQUESTING A SMALL SUV, UM, CHEVY TRAX IS WHAT WE GOT A QUOTE FOR, FOR $20,000.

EIGHT OFFICE CHAIRS FOR $1,600 A FILING CABINET, $1,300.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS AN EXPENSE O OFF OF DEPARTMENT FIVE 40 THREE'S REQUEST, UM, FOR RADIOS.

THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO IT NOW SINCE, UH, UM, JAMES HAS TAKEN OVER THE RADIO PROJECT.

UM, THE RADIO $2,224 FOR A TOTAL OF $25,124 DEPARTMENT, SIX 30 COUNTY PERMITTING, UM, IS REQUESTED $700 FOR A SPECTRAL LASER LEVEL AND A, UM, HALF TON VEHICLE.

THEY'VE REQUESTED $52,711 FOR A TOTAL OF 53,411 DEPARTMENT, 6 65 COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE IS REQUESTED A SMALL SUV FOR 39,000 AND A SHIPPING CONTAINER TO STORE, UM, ITEMS IN FOR $5,500 FOR A TOTAL OF 44,500 HUNDRED DOLLARS.

SO WITH THE CHANGES, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THIS MORNING, THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS FROM 10 CAP NON CAP WOULD BE $2,771,508.

ANYTHING TO MENTION, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR VEHICLES? UM, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO USE SB 22 FUNDS.

UM, WHICH WOULD BE 500,000.

AND SO I DO HAVE IT ON THE, UM, 20TH AGENDA TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS.

SO THAT WAY WHEN THEY GET THE, UM, LINKS, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN SENT OUT, UM, TO DO THE APPLICATIONS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SO A PORTION OF THESE COULD BE COVERED BY SB 22 FOR THE VEHICLES.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH? IS IT LIKE A PERCENTAGE OR? NO, IT'S, I MEAN IT'S 500,000.

HOWEVER, AND SO AS LONG AS HOWEVER THAT'S DIVIDED.

UM, IT'S 500,000 CAN GO FOR, UM, BASICALLY EQUIPMENT.

UM, IT KIND OF DEFINES SOME OF THAT VEHICLES OUTFITTING SAFETY EQUIPMENT, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, THANK YOU .

I'LL JUST MENTION THIS PART TOO.

THERE'S OTHER CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET PRIOR TO USING THAT, BUT BECAUSE WE MEET THE MINIMUMS OF WHAT SB 22 SAYS, THEN WE CAN GO INTO THE EQUIPMENT.

I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE ON THE, ON THE RECORD.

IT'S BECAUSE WE MEET OTHER CRITERIA FIRST TO USE THOSE ONE FOR THAT.

ON ITEM ITEM F ON THE HUMAN SERVICES BUDGET REQUEST, THAT'S BEING PUSHED OUT TO EIGHT 20.

YOU WANNA COVER WHAT WE DO HAVE.

OH, YEAH.

SO DO WE GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS THAT CAME IN?

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THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO, BRIANNA, ON WHAT YOU JUST HANDED OUT, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2025 JUDGES PROPOSED, AGAIN, IT JUST ROLLED OVER FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

IF THE COURT WANTS TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE FOR, UM, THE COMMITTEE ON AGING, WHICH IS 1,344.

AND SO IF YOU RECALL, A PORTION HAS BEEN, UM, REQUESTED BY THE COMMITTEE ON AGING JUST FOR THEIR COMMITMENT PIECE.

AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE COMPONENT THAT CAME IN A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, THROUGH COG.

AND SO BASICALLY WE FUND THOSE TO THE COMMITTEE ON AGING, AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO COG 'CAUSE THEY GET, UM, CREDIT FOR MATCHING.

AND SO, UM, YOU RECALL THAT LETTER? IT'S FOR MEALS ON WHEELS? YES.

AND SO WE DID RECEIVE THE LETTER OF WHAT THAT REQUESTED FUNDING FROM COG WOULD BE.

AND SO I'VE INCREASED IT.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT $1,344 IS.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SINCE HE HAD RECEIVED ANYTHING OF ANY INCREASES FROM THEM, UM, I DID EY I THINK IT'S SMITH FROM THE DIRECTOR FOR COMMITTEE ON AGING HAD REACHED OUT TO ME TO ASK, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD PRESENTED AT COURT LAST YEAR.

AND SO I SAID I, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT WAS GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 20TH, BUT THAT YOUR OFFICE WOULD CONFIRM.

UM, AND I DID ASK HER IF SHE, UM, ANTICIPATED ANY CHANGING IN THE REQUESTED FUNDING.

AND SHE SAID THAT THERE MAY BE, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE, UM, THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A BOARD MEETING.

SO THAT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE PRIOR TO THE 20TH IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES.

SO DID WE, IS ARE THESE, AND THESE ARE UPDATES WITH WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED FROM THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES? I DON'T, WELL, THERE'S NO INCREASES IN HERE.

I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING AND I HAD ASKED VENTEE IF SHE HAD RECEIVED ANYTHING OR, SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING SO FAR.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS, IS WHAT WAS LAST YEAR, CORRECT? CORRECT.

WE HAVE, SO THERE'S NO RECEIPT OF ANYTHING REQUESTED MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR? CORRECT.

ALL WE DID, I HAD REQUESTED THE UPDATED COG AMOUNT JUST 'CAUSE I DIDN'T RECEIVED IT.

AND SO I, I WAS ABLE TO GET THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER MAY BE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT COURT.

UNDERSTOOD.

REPORT WHAT? GO AHEAD.

NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

WELL, THE SECOND LINE THERE IS EAST PARKER COUNTY LIBRARY.

I'D IMAGINE THAT'S ALWAYS THE SAME.

THE LIBRARY EAST PARKER COUNTY LIBRARY.

YES, YES.

THOSE ARE ALL, SO WE DON'T EXPECT ANY CHANGE THERE BECAUSE OF THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT.

IT'S JUST WHAT IS, UM, I, I GUESS MY, SO THE SAME THING AS SPRINGTOWN.

, UM, AND I AS, AS WELL AS AZEL, THE ONE I'M, I'M, I'M QUESTIONING IS WEATHERFORD, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN, UH, I GUESS A PAST DISCUSSION ON, UH, A RATE INCREASE AND WANTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

I JUST, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING WE'VE OKAY.

IS THAT NOT ONE THAT WE HAVE FUNDED WHAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY FUNDED, BUT THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THAT.

SO WE HAVE NOT SENT ANYTHING.

AND I THINK LAST YEAR COURT WANTED YOU ALL WANTED JUST TO LEAVE IT IN THERE.

IF THERE WAS ANY REQUEST WE DID FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY TO FUND OUT OF COUNTY, WE ALLOCATED THAT MONEY TO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR, UH, IN CASE THAT SOMEBODY NEEDED RIGHT.

TO APPLY FOR THE $50 FEE THAT THEY'RE CHARGING FOR NON-CITY RESIDENCE.

SO EFFECTIVELY A SCHOLARSHIP.

AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

THE FRIENDS HAVE NOT, HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THAT MONEY THERE IF COULD, I'M PREPARED TO, THIS IS ONE I'D BE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON, UH, IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD.

UH, I, I CONCUR.

THE, UH, HUMAN SERVICES SIX 40, UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AMOUNTS HERE ON THIS PAGE, INCLUDING THE $1,344 ADDITIONAL, UH, FUNDS FOR THE, UH, COMMITTEE ON AGING FOR, UH, MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDO, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOL, I THOUGHT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR YOUR BUTTON.

I WAS.

UM, OKAY.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE DISCUSSION FOR THE COURT.

I ASSUME THAT MEANS THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE THE 51,865 WELL, THAT WE HAD HISTORICALLY ALLOCATED, BUT WE CHANNEL THAT THROUGH ANOTHER AVENUE.

IS YOU? YES, SIR.

I, I'M HERE.

WE, WE TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO, YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO GET THERE.

BUT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY SO THAT IF SOMEONE REACHES OUT WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE ADDITIONAL FEE, WE CAN ASSESS THAT AS A SCHOLARSHIP TODAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MINE'S NOT WORKING.

I SAY A

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MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE.

[I.G. Salaries and Benefits for Elected Officials. (Becky McCuUough / Judge Deen) ]

WE'LL MOVE TO SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

BECKY, I DID PROVIDE Y'ALL AN UPDATE, UM, OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL LIST OF THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE THAT HAS NOW BEEN REQUESTED FROM THE SHERIFF.

UH, I ADDED THAT TO THE, UH, ELECTED OFFICIAL LIST AND THE TOTAL COST, THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE WOULD BE 20,800.

THE TOTAL COST OF THAT WOULD BE 22,694.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT VEHICLE ALLOWANCE FOR THE SHERIFF MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND A FURTHER DISCUSSION PHASE.

I'M, UH, SECOND BY COUNTY JUDGE.

ANY DISCUSSION ITEM? THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD DO THAT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR NOT.

I DON'T STILL I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, DO Y'ALL? NO.

BECKY.

WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION COMES IN IS, IS IF YOU CAN'T ADD COUNTY PAID PROPERTY TO A PERSONAL VEHICLE.

SO IS THERE GONNA BE LIGHTS ON IT? A COMPUTER? THE THINGS THAT TYPICALLY ARE OUTFITTED INTO A VEHICLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE OUTFITTED.

I'M NOT OPPOSED.

I JUST, I WANT A CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE, I THINK HE SAID HE WASN'T GONNA DO THAT.

I WANT A CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

HE SAID THAT LAST YEAR.

I SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK.

SO WE DON'T PUT ANY OUTFITTING IN ANY OF OUR CID VEHICLES OR ADMIN VEHICLES.

UM, WE ONLY CARRY HANDHELD RADIOS IN THOSE.

SO THERE'S NO EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO THOSE.

OTHER THAN THE TRAUMA KIT.

IF, IF I MAY FOR THE COURT, UM, AND I CAN PROBABLY FIND IT IF I NEED TO, AND I DON'T MIND SENDING IT TO RICH WHO SENDS IT OUT TO THE COURT.

I'VE GOT CORRESPONDENCE FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S MR. ALLISON WITH ALLISON BASS MCGEE, WHO REPRESENTS TAC THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN ADD TO A PERSONAL VEHICLE, WE CAN USE COUNTY FUNDS TO ADD TO A PERSONAL VEHICLE IF THAT PERSONAL VEHICLE IS BEING USED IN PUBLIC SERVICE.

IT JUST HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO JUST NOT TRYING TO THROW A MONKEY WRENCH IN ANYTHING, BUT JUST FELT LIKE THAT NEEDED TO BE THROWN OUT THERE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE SIX.

OH, I HAD SIX OF 'EM ON THERE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, WHAT DID BECKY DID BECKY VOTE OR GEORGE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT.

YOU VOTED TWICE.

, YOU HIT YOUR BUTTON TWICE.

NO.

I DUNNO HOW THAT, WOW.

NOW WE KNOW BACK.

THAT'S NOT HOW MOTION CARRIES.

UM, THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER UPDATE WAS FROM 5 43 WHENEVER, UH, KURT HARRIS SPOKE THE OTHER DAY.

I DIDN'T HAVE PAPERWORK FOR THAT, SO I PROVIDED THAT FOR YOU.

SO THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS TO TAKE THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION.

IT'S CURRENTLY PAID AT 52,345, ASKING TO INCREASE IT TO 58,399, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, ABOUT 11 5% INCREASE AND ADDING $10,000 TO THE INVESTIGATOR SALARY WHO IS CURRENTLY PAID AT 64,857.

SO THE REQUEST IS TO GO TO 74,000 8 57, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 15% INCREASE.

CAN WE GO BACK TO CHIEF? I MEANT TO GET YOU TO DO THIS WHILE AGO.

IF WE PASS THE SHERIFF'S DEAL, WHAT WERE Y'ALL GONNA DO WITH HIS VEHICLE? AND SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT INTO CID I'VE ALREADY TOLD KIM TO REMOVE ONE OF OUR, UH, FOUR BY FOUR REQUEST.

FOUR BY FOUR TRUCKS OUT.

SO INSTEAD OF REQUESTING THREE VEHICLES FOR CID, IT'LL JUST BE DOWN TO TWO.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU WAS GONNA DO.

YEAH, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO KIM ABOUT THAT.

MM-HMM, .

THE OTHER DAY WHEN I SAID WE WERE GONNA DECREASE THE CONVENIENCE CENTER BUDGET, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE IT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

THE OTHER WAS THE DISCUSSION ON THE CUSTODIAN POSITION.

UH, BUILDING GROUNDS WAS REQUESTING ANOTHER FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP THE TIMEFRAME WHEN THAT BUILDING WOULD BE READY.

SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, MR. LONG AND HE WAS LIKE, NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT HE IS REQUESTING, HE DOES HAVE A PART-TIME LINE.

HE WOULD LIKE TO, FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER MAKING THAT PART-TIME, A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR HIM.

AND CURRENTLY WE BUDGET 46,500 IN THAT PART-TIME LINE.

SO A PORTION OF IT WOULD GO TO HELP COVER A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.

AND THE REST OF IT, HE'S ASKING TO BE PUT INTO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER PART-TIME LINE.

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UM, JUST KIND OF MOVING SOME MONEY AROUND.

BUT THERE'S A, I GAVE Y'ALL AN UPDATED SHEET TO EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE LIST AGAIN.

THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATES I HAVE.

NO, UM, THE, UH, QUESTION I ASKED YOU EARLIER IS THE, THE DATE THAT IS THE LAST DATE THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SALARIES FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS IS THE 26TH.

AND I'M, I'M, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, I DON'T WANNA MAKE EVERYTHING THE 26TH BE A VERY BUSY DAY, BUT A LOT OF STUFF TO DIGEST HERE THAT WE GOT TODAY IN THIS CAPITAL CAP INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE ONE I WOULD ASK TO BE ON THE 26TH.

SO WE, WE, UH, UM, I'M, Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY HEARD THE SPEECH, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PRIORITIZING TO DO HERE TO FIGURE OUT, ESPECIALLY THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO.

AND, AND, UH, WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GLEANED FROM THE PRESENTATIONS THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS HERE, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, THE OPTION ONE, TWO AND THREE DEAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MONDAY.

HONOR OH TO T-C-D-R-S.

I WANT TO MOVE THAT WE DO OPTION ONE.

IS THERE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE CAN, OR CAN WE, CAN WE NOT DO THAT? TRUE IT'S BENEFITS? SURE.

IT DOES FALL UNDER THE BENEFITS.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, GEORGE? THE T-C-D-R-S RATE.

CTRS RATE.

I MOVE THAT WE PICK OPTION ONE.

CAN YOU, OKAY.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

SO I NEED THE MOTION TO BE CLEAR THOUGH, THAT WELL HOLD ON.

WE, WE, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SO WE NEED A SECOND TO GO INTO THE DISCUSSION.

UH, LET ME JUST, I'LL SECOND MOTION COMMISSIONER WALTERS MADE SECOND NOW GO AHEAD, CONTINUE, BECKY.

HOW DO YOU WANT IT WORDED? OKAY.

THAT THE ELECTED RATE WOULD BE 13.39 AND THE LIFE RATE WOULD BE 0.23? YES, MA'AM.

SAY THAT THE, THE ELECTED RATE WOULD BE 13.39.

AND THE LIFE RATE WOULD BE 0.23.

ONE MORE TIME PLEASE.

FOR THOSE IN THE BACK.

13.3.

13.39.

AND THEN 0.23 FOR THE LIFE RATE, THAT'S THE OPTION THAT YOU HAD RAN? YES.

THAT WE DISCUSSED YES.

TO WHERE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, KEEPING IT WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY WITH ABOUT AN $11,000 INCREASE.

AND OF COURSE THAT'S PRIOR TO ANY ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES OR COLAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND KNOCK THAT OUT.

ITEM I ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST AND OR NEW POSITIONS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I'LL TRY NOT TO VOTE TWICE.

MOTION CARRIES.

I'M GLAD YOU NOT, NOT SIX OF THAT'S IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES.

MOVE TO ITEM H ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES.

NONE.

I OBJECT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.

MOVE TO

[I.I. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCuUough / Judge Deen) ]

NO UPDATES.

UH, GRANT WRITING, NOT ONLY IN THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD OF TIME AS WE DO THE BUDGET, BUT THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR.

HERE'S THE, THE CHANGES ON, OH YES.

THE, THE REQUEST ON, YEAH.

IN FRONT OF YOU.

THERE'S BEEN A, WE, WE MADE THAT CHANGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR ON WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING, UM, THAT WE AGREED TO HOLD AND MAKE THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARER HERE.

UM, THAT JUST, AND JUST TO BE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THIS ON THE GRANT COORDINATOR IS A COUNTYWIDE, IT REALLY REPORTS TO THE CO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO WORK WITH EACH OF YOU AS WELL AS THE WHOLE COUNTY ON A POSITION THAT WE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.

BUT THIS IS A, THIS IS A POSITION NOT WHAT WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT WITH EOC, JUST MORE OF A GLOBAL FOR ANY, ANY AVAILABLE COUNTY GRANT IS WHAT WOULD BE EXPLORED BY THIS POSITION PERSON THAT FILLS THIS POSITION AND WOULD REPORT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT PERIOD.

UM, ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THIS, ON THE FINANCIAL ASPECT, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE BROKE IT DOWN, IT'D PROBABLY BE PROBABLY A 60 40 OR 70 30.

I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GRANT SIDE TO THE, THE FINANCIAL AND JUST SEASONAL ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE IN, IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE OF WHAT I ORIGINALLY REQUESTED.

THAT I HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PULL FROM WHAT BECKY HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS, UM, FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS.

AND, AND SO TO FREE THAT UP TO ALLOW HER, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK LATE AT NIGHT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN DOING, BUT PUT THAT ROLE UNDER WHAT STATUTORILY IS REQUIRED UNDER THE COUNTY JUDGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCE.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE THAT ROLE THROUGH THIS TIME PERIOD THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT THEN REVERT THROUGH THE,

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BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REPORT TO THE, IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.

SO THAT, TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR WITH THAT.

I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR ON THAT, JUDGE.

BUT I, I HAD THE QUESTION.

UM, IS THIS GOING TO, ARE WE GOING TO BE MOVING WHAT HAS BEEN AT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICES THAT POSITION? COULD, COULD WE SAY THAT THAT POSITION THAT'S BEEN OVER THERE, THAT HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR GRANTS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THIS POSITION? 100? THAT'S WHAT I, 100% THAT'S I UNDERSTOOD.

100%.

AND SO, AND SO THE, THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS INSTEAD OF CREATING A NEW POSITION, IN EFFECT, WE ARE TRANSFERRING A POSITION IN MY, IN MY MIND AND I'M JUST ASKING, UH, IF WE'RE TRANSFERRING THAT POSITION FROM WHERE IT HAS BEEN OVER TO THIS POSITION.

AND, AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT $15 MILLION HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

AND, UH, I WANNA BE CLEAR TO ANYBODY THAT SAYS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU NEED THIS MONEY IN, IN THIS SLOT OVER HERE AND YOU'RE CREATING A NEW POSITION HERE.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND, AND SO I WANT THAT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT WE ARE IN EFFECT NOT DOING THAT, BUT WE ARE TRANSFERRING A POSITION.

I THINK BEING CLEAR TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I YOU'RE CORRECT WOULD BE A TRANSFER, BUT IT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF, OF THE, THE GLOBAL.

NO, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

THE, THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT, BUT IT WOULD BE A TRANSFER SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES.

HOWEVER, BRINGING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND, UH, GRANT WRITING THAT HAD BEEN OVER THERE, HERE TO THIS POSITION.

NOW, IS THAT A, IS THAT A FAIR YES.

IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO HERE? YES.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WE'RE EFFECTIVELY TAKING A POSITION THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE, BRINGING IT DIRECTLY UNDER THE COURT'S PURVIEW SO WE CAN KEEP A VERY CLOSE EYE ON IT WHILE ALSO USING THAT POSITION TO MEET AN ADDITIONAL NEED THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING MET ONLY BY BRIANNA WORKING GOD HOW MANY HOURS.

AND TO ADD TO THAT, TO EXPAND THE ROLE, TO EXPAND THE ROLE AND GLOBALIZE THAT INSTEAD OF JUST SEGMENTING THAT INTO THE OC.

HEY BECKY, DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATE WHAT THE LINE ITEM IS FOR THAT POSITION? THAT POSITION OVER IN THE OC THAT POSITION'S BUDGETED? UM, AROUND 81,000.

SO I SEE THIS ONE'S UP TO 85, SO IS UP TO 85.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

YEAH, SO IT'S THAT EVERYTHING'S COMPARABLE, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND UPDATE BENEFITS AND STUFF FOR A NEW POSITION.

SO IT'S CURRENTLY CLASSED AS AN ASSISTANT.

EMC IS WHAT THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR ASKED FOR.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE RECLASSING, THE ASSISTANT EMC POSITION TO THE, UM, GRANT WRITER, BUDGET ANALYST AND DECIDING WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE UNDER DEPARTMENT 4 0 1 OR 4 0 2.

GOOD.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD MENTION ABOUT THAT POSITION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE WAS A NEW, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, UM, THEY CAN DO CERT HOURS THAT ARE, UM, APPROVED FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE PART OF THAT POSITION, EVEN THOUGH WE BUDGET ALL, UM, AT FUND 10, WE MOVE SOME OF THAT EXPENSE OVER TO, UM, OUR CERT GRANT.

SO, UM, AND WHEN WE APPLY FOR IT, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE USING SO MANY HOURS, UM, OF THE SALARY FOR THAT POSITION.

BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC TO THAT POSITION, BUT WE'LL JUST NEED CORRECT THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON'S DUTIES THAT ARE THEY GONNA MEET THAT CRITERIA OR WE MAY NEED TO MODIFY, MODIFY THAT GRANT.

WE CAN, WE CAN HANDLE IT THROUGH ANOTHER POSITION.

ANOTHER POSITION IN THAT OTHER DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

IT'S 4 0 2.

4 0 2 IS THE COUNTY JUDGE.

4 0 1.

IT'S COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THIS POSITION AS OUTLINED BUDGET ANALYST, GRANT COORDINATOR, UH, TO REPORT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT 4 0 1.

AND, UH, AT THE SALARY RANGE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE AND WITH THE JOB DESCRIPTION AS OUTLINED THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THERE IS ADDITIONAL CAP THAT CAME ALONG WITH THAT POSITION.

THE DESK CHAIR, COMPUTER MONITOR, LAPTOP, I DON'T KNOW.

WE MIGHT CAN WORK WITH IT OR FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS PERSON IS GOING TO OFFICE AT TO REVISIT THE CAP FOR THAT COMPUTER.

THIS PERSON, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT LATER.

COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BUT UNDER THE, THE, THE PURVIEW OF DOING THE BUDGET ANALYST IN, IN THE DIRECTION OF THE, OF THE, THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, EXCUSE ME, THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, WOULD THAT NOT BE UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY JUDGE? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? THAT MOTION IS THEY'LL THEY'LL BE DOING THAT WORK.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALL, I THINK BY COMMISSIONER COLLEY.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

UM, SO UNDER THE, WHEN YOU SAY 4 0 1, IS THAT BECAUSE THE GRANT WRITING WOULD REPORT TO THE COUNTY

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FOR YOU? FOR THE, FOR ALL OF US.

ALL.

I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE HAVE IT'S ALL.

NO, I THINK IT'S CLEAR.

STATUTORILY THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU.

IT WOULD STATUTORILY HAVE TO REPORT TO ME.

BUT THIS IS A DUAL PURPOSE POSITION AND SO FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT, WE'RE PUTTING IT IN 4 0 1.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? GOOD.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

IS THAT A I HEAR OKAY.

MOTION.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE.

OH, I CAN VOTE.

I CAN VOTE FOR YOU.

I CAN .

WELL YOU PROBABLY HAVE, I THINK I GOT CONLEY'S SCREEN OVER HERE.

IT ONE NORMALLY DOESN'T WORK.

UM, ON ITEM J ON SPECIAL REVENUE, VINS AND PROJECTS.

BRIANNA? NO.

[II.1. Presenl/Discuss/Approve Precincts Funds IA for Budget FY2024-2025. (Judge Deen) ]

ITEM TWO ON PRESENT.

DISCUSS APPROVED PRECINCTS FROM FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR BUDGETS, UH, ON ITEM ONE PRESENT.

DISCUSS APPROVED PRECINCT FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET, 24 25.

DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT TODAY? SO THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT I DON'T HAVE AMOUNTS ON THAT WERE INCLUDED ON THE, THE BUDGET WORKBOOKS.

SO FOR PRECINCT ONE, A PICTOMETRY, I DON'T HAVE AMOUNT FOR THAT.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH THAT IS? NO.

NO.

UM, PRECINCT ONE IS REQUESTING TWO THREE QUARTER TON CREW CAB VEHICLES FOR A TOTAL OF ONE 13,000 548 50 AND A HALF TON CREW CAB FOR 52 7, 10 50 AND TWO ARMOR DUMP TRUCKS.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE PRICE FOR THAT.

SO THE TOTAL OVERALL IS, IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

PRECINCT TWO, A BOMAG ROLLER FOR ONE FIFTY, A HUNDRED FIFTY $7,000, AN 8,000 GALLON ASPHALT TANK FOR $120,000 MECHANICAL TRAILER PATCHING FOR $11,000.

THEY NEED A WELL DRILLED FOR 20,700 AND A HEAVY DUTY 2,500, UH, WORK TRUCK FOR $60,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 360 8, 6 86.

HEY KIM, REAL QUICK ON THAT.

UM, THE WATER, WELL, DIDN'T WE PAY THAT OUT OF ARPA? YEAH, SO WE CAN, WE CAN SCRATCH THAT 20,000 THAT WAS PAID WITH ARPA FUNDS.

SO, SO CAN, OH, GO AHEAD.

THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT TO 3 48, 6 86 OR 3 3 47 ON THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE THERE.

I HAVE PRICING ON ALL THAT STUFF.

YOU DO HAVE PRICING ON ALL THIS? MM-HMM, .

OKAY, I'LL GET WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO PRECINCT THREE IS REQUESTING, UH, A HAUL TRUCK THAT'S 284,000 9 0 7 AND A SECOND HAUL TRUCK.

I I IS IT A SMALLER TRUCK? MM-HMM, .

KNOW, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE COUNTY FUNDS, THAT YOU CAN'T, YOUR MATCH CANNOT COME FROM OTHER FEDERAL OR STATE SOURCES.

FOR TWO 19,475 DUMP TRUCKS FOR 1,627,005 10.

AND THESE, ALL THREE OF THESE LINES ARE TURP TRUCKS, GRANTS, TURP GRANTS.

UM, SO HE'S GOT PRICING FOR THE RE HE'S REQUESTING A RECLAIMER AND A RUBBER TIRE LOADER.

AND UM, THEN SIX PICKUPS FOR 3 38, 1 60.

ALSO 138,000 OF THAT WOULD BE TURP.

UH, THE DISTRIBUTOR AND WATER TRUCK WILL GET THE PRICING FOR THOSE A MOWER FOR 29,451.

AND THEN WE'LL NEED PRICING FOR ANOTHER HAUL TRUCK, A DUMP, A SINGLE AXLE DUMP TRUCK, AND A PAVER PRECINCT.

FOUR, THEY WANNA CREATE A, A LINE FOR PROTECTIVE CLOTHING EQUIPMENT FOR ABOUT $750.

RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR A THOUSAND OFFICE EQUIPMENT, 500 CONCRETE SAW, 3,200 BUCKET TRUCK FOR 183,000, A DUMP TRUCK FOR 65,000 AND A PICKUP FOR 56, 7 74.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER, UM, IT RELATED STUFF THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH IT ON.

UM, AND ALSO FOR THE PRINTER LEASES AND STUFF TO GET AN ACTUAL, UM, INCREASE WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR OUR PRINTER LEASE.

ONE THING I WOULD MENTION IS IF YOU HAVE ARPA FUNDS AVAILABLE, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT THING UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER PURPOSES THAT YOU WANNA USE THEM AND YOU CAN GET THEM OBLIGATED BY DECEMBER 31ST.

IF IT IS A MATCHING PORTION ON TURP, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT.

JUST, UM, FOR THE TURP PIECES, JUST 'CAUSE UM, SOME GRANTS ARE VERY CLEAR THAT YOU CAN, YOU

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SO FOR THAT PURPOSE, IF IT'S TURP RELATED, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT.

HOWEVER, FOR ANY OF THESE OTHER ITEMS, UM, IF YOU HAVE ARPA FUNDING AVAILABLE, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO GET THOSE FUNDS OBLIGATED AND SPENT.

SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UM, EACH OF THE PRECINCTS WERE ALLOCATED, UH, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF ARPA FUNDING AND IT HAS TO BE, UH, ALLOCATED BY DECEMBER 31ST, RIGHT? NOT ALLOCATED, OBLIGATED.

OBLIGATED BY JUST MAKING SURE WE ALREADY FIRST YES.

SO YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA SAY WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IT AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE AFTER THAT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST SAYING HOW YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IT.

IT MEANS IF YOU, YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PAY.

SO IT'S A CONTRACT, UM, YOU KNOW, PO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S AN RFP, IT'S BEEN AWARDED, CONTRACT SIGNED, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND THEN SPENT BY DECEMBER OF 2026.

YEP.

SO ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTE REAL QUICK IS WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE SOME TURP MONEY TOWARDS THE DUMP TRUCK THAT WE HAVE ONE YEAR.

IT WASN'T NOTATED, BUT, AND, AND WHAT WE DO WHEN WE'RE, WE CAN GET A PORTION, BUT WE DON'T KNOW, WE'VE SUBMITTED, SO BUDGETING THOSE TURP ITEMS, IF A GRANT HAS NOT BEEN AWARDED, WE DO NOT BUDGET ANY REVENUE FOR THAT.

SO WHAT WE BUDGET IS BASICALLY YOUR ESTIMATE OF WHAT YOUR MATCH WOULD BE.

AND THEN IF A TURP AWARD A GRANT IS AWARDED, THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE CERTIFY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT THAT REIMBURSEMENT PIECE WOULD BE AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST TO COVER FOR THE EQUIPMENT.

SO, AND I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND SOME OF 'EM, IT'S A SLIDING SCALE OF HOW MUCH THEY'LL COVER.

SO, UM, JUST RECOMMEND ON ANY OF THOSE JUST TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY SO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO, TO COVER THAT.

IF, IF A GRANT IS AWARDED BRIANNA, THIS IS SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TO TALK ABOUT MORE OFFLINE, BUT IF WE HAVE TAKEN ARPA FUNDS AND ALLOCATED THEM TO A PROJECT, WHICH I BELIEVE I DID ON SHALE, UNLESS THAT WAS FROM TRANSPORTATION ON THAT WAS UM, YES.

IT WAS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FROM FROM TRANSPORTATION.

OKAY THEN THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION VERY MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE, UH, FUNDING FOR PRECINCT FUNDS ON ONE THROUGH FOUR?

[II.2. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) ]

SHE COVERED IT.

OH, OKAY.

GIVE MY AR PLUG IT.

ANOTHER THING ON THE CAP, NON CAP, IT'S ALL KIND OF COMING TOGETHER HERE.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE, I THINK HAVE SOME MEETINGS IN THE WORKS TO SEE WHETHER THERE MAY BE EXCESS FUNDS AVAILABLE.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME RADIOS BEING REQUESTED FROM SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S UM, EXCESS ARPA FUNDS THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO ONE, OBLIGATE THOSE FUNDS, BE ABLE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THOSE RADIOS AND THEN USE ARPA FUNDS AND NOT GENERAL FUND TO PURCHASE THOSE.

OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER RADIO, UM, REQUESTS THAT FALL INTO THAT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE TO ITEM THREE? I MOVE TO ADJOURN.

SECOND.