Aug 26, 2024 Commissioners Court Budget Agenda

UM, I'M GONNA DO THAT ONE FIRST.

YEP.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE GO TO, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ITEM IT IS, BUT THERE'S A, YEAH, IT'S, UH, ITEM J.

TO DISCUSS VOTE ON SPECIAL REVENUE FINES AND PROJECTS.

I'M GONNA OPEN ITEM J

[I.J. Discuss/Vote on Special Revenue Funds and Projects. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

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UM, AND WE DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.

UH, YOU WANT TO COME ON UP? GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

YES, I'M STILL ON THIS MORNING.

SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

YOU'VE HAD A BUSY DAY.

I'M BRENDA MCCLARIN AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PARKER COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

UM, I CAN GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OR IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING? GIVE IT A SHORT VERSION? SHORT, THE SHORT, SHORT VERSION.

THE SHORT VERSION BECAUSE WE, WE KNOW PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ONE, ONE UPDATE THAT'S, UM, THAT WOULD BE NEW INFORMATION IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PREMIER ONE COMMERCIAL GROUP TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN, UH, THE OFFICE SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITIZENS, UM, NATIONAL BANK BUILDING.

SO WE, WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT NUMBER, UH, SHORTLY.

SO, UM, WE MET WITH, UM, ALAN ODOM AND LEE EVANS ON, UM, IN JULY, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW FROM THE PLANS THAT, UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLANS THAT MARCEL QUIMBEE DID FOR US.

UH, WE'RE DOING AN, AN AWFUL LOT OF RESEARCH, UH, OUTREACH.

UM, EVEN THOUGH OUR, UH, SPACES ISN'T CONFIGURED THE WAY WE WOULD IDEALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT, WE'RE OPEN ON, UH, MARKET DAYS AND SPECIAL EVENTS WE'RE DOING.

DO YOU KNOW, UM, BOARDS, UM, THAT HIGHLIGHT, UM, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF PARKER COUNTY HISTORY? WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF VISITORS, UM, NOT SOME LOCAL RESIDENTS, EXISTING RESIDENTS, SOME FOLKS NEW TO PARKER COUNTY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY.

AND IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED.

UM, OUR TRAVEL, UM, BUDGET, UM, LOOKS MAY LOOK HIGH.

WE SENT SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION REAL PLACES CONFERENCE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

AND ACTUALLY, BILL WARREN PRESENTED AT THAT CONFERENCE ON ALL THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE, UM, ABANDONED CEMETERY ASSOCIATION.

AND IT WAS, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE WELL MANAGED.

UM, SO, UM, SO THERE'S ONE, UH, LINE ITEM THAT PAYS FOR OUR ATTENDANCE, BUT THEN THERE'S THE LARGER ITEM, I THINK IT'S $11,000, IS FOR TRAVEL, TO PAY FOR MILEAGE AND HOTEL FOR, UM, THAT CONFERENCE SPECIFICALLY.

UM, WE DO, UM, HAVE A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.

WE, UM, LAST YEAR GAVE $5,000 TO THE MILLSAP POST OFFICE, UH, RESTORATION, THE LOG, UM, POST OFFICE RESTORATION FUND.

SO, UM, WAS THAT A MATCHING OR IS THAT JUST A DONATION DONATION FROM Y'ALL? PARDON? WAS THAT A MATCHING OR WAS THAT A DONATION FROM Y'ALL? JUST PURELY 5,000.

IT 5,000 FROM, FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO THEIR PROJECT.

SO YOU TOOK THAT OUTTA YOUR FUND BALANCE AND YES, WE DID.

, NO.

IT CAN MEAN ALL THE COUNTY FUNDS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? UH, NO.

OUTTA OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION YES.

OUTTA YOUR YES.

YOU MADE THAT DONATION.

FROM, FROM OUR COUNTY FUNDS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THIS SAME THING.

THE THING I ADMIRE, EXCUSE ME.

THE THING I ADMIRE SO MUCH ABOUT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION IS, AND I ECHO THE COURT, I'M, I'M SURE THAT WITH ALL THIS GROWTH THAT WE HAVE, THE ONE THING THAT KIND OF TIES US INTO OUR ROOTS, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, OR THE, THE, THE FOUNDATION OF WHO PARKER COUNTY IS.

WE TRY NOT TO LOSE THAT RULE INTEGRITY TOO QUICKLY HERE.

AND THE ONE THING THAT DOES GROUND US TO OUR VALUES AND OUR, OUR CULTURE, IF YOU WILL, YOU BET.

AND OUR HISTORY IS THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.

WE HAVE AN AMAZING HERITAGE.

AND WE LOVE TO PROMOTE IT.

WE ALSO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE AND WE TAKE QUESTIONS FROM YEAH.

UM, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT ASK ABOUT THINGS.

DO WE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH FOR FOLKS AS WELL.

AND WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH ADOS, UM, MUSEUM, UH, IT'S BEEN COLLABORATIVE THAT, UM, THEY DO A LOT OF OUR DISPLAY PANELS FOR US.

WE WORK ON THE CONTENT.

THEY, UM, THEY PRINT IT AND WE PAY THEM, UH, A MINIMAL FEE FOR THAT.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT ALL THE EFFORTS YOU DO YES.

THAT YOU, UM, REALLY WORK HARD NETWORKING OUT AND, AND NOT WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME TO YOU AND YES.

BUT Y'ALL PUSH OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED AT LEAST THE LAST THREE YEARS, IF NOT LONGER, FOR, UM, FOR OUT OUTSTANDING SERVICE BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

ONE OF THE BEST IN THE STATE.

, ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, AND THEY ARE ASKING 35,750 FOR THAT TRANSFER IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

, THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALL BEEN PROVIDED IT, BUT, UM, SO IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, UH, THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM THE COUNT OR FROM THE GENERAL FUND OF $24,000, UM, FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S BUDGET.

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SO THE TOTAL OF THE EMAIL THAT YOU ALL WOULD'VE RECEIVED SAYS 36,250.

UM, BUT THEN THE BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE ATTACHED SHOWS, UM, PROJECTING $50 FROM DONATIONS AS WELL AS $450 OF INTEREST FROM THOSE FUNDS.

UM, SO CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, I DIDN'T ZERO OUT THAT TRANSFER, I JUST LEFT IT.

SO IT WOULD EITHER BE A, A DECREASE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, OR IF YOU FUND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, THEN IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 11,750.

SO THERE WILL NEED TO BE A VOTE AT SOME POINT OF, UM, FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE OTHER SPACE.

SPECIAL REVENUE, WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THIS YET, HAVE WE? UM, IT WAS, I KNOW SENTIA, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING GAVE YOU GUYS A STAPLES PACKET, AND SO IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT HAD THIS EMAIL AS WELL AS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE BUDGET.

BUT I CAN JUST GO THROUGH, IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN GO THROUGH THE LINE ITEMS. I IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS WHILE WE'VE VOTED ON THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE, SOME OF THOSE OTHERS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN FOR APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? I'D LIKE TO ASK AGAIN WHAT THAT $5,000 DONATION WENT TO.

WHAT IN MILLSAP? THE POST OFFICE PROJECT? THE POST OFFICE PROJECT, UH, I THINK THE MILLSAP HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS, IS, HAS A PROJECT TO RESTORE THEIR OLD LOG CABIN POST OFFICE BUILDING.

AND SO, SO IT WASN'T ACTUALLY THE POST OFFICE? NO, IT'S NOT THE NO, IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

NO, IT'S THE HISTORIC LOG CABIN BUILDING.

THAT WAS THE POST OFFICE LONG, LONG AGO.

YOU SAID POST OFFICE.

I WONDERING WHY WE WOULD DONATE.

WE WOULDN'T DO THAT.

IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD DONATION.

WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES.

FIVE.

OH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY OTHER REVENUE REQUESTS OR PROJECTS IN THAT UNDER ITEM J? UM, UM, JUST SO IT'S ON THE RECORD OF THE COURT, I BELIEVE CYNTHIA PROVIDED YOU ALL THIS FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UM, AS PART OF THE CO OF PER CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, UM, 59, WHICH IS SEIZURE FUNDS, FORFEITURE FUNDS, UM, THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT A LIST OF CATEGORIES OF THE EXPENSES, UM, FOR THOSE FORFEITED FUNDS.

AND SO, UM, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS PROVIDED THAT, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALSO HAS FORFEITURE FUNDS AND AS PART OF YOUR BINDER, THEY'VE PROVIDED, UM, THEIR DETAIL OF WHAT THEY, THE PLANNED EXPENDITURES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

SO THAT IS A REQUIREMENT, UM, IS THAT THAT BUDGET BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND BE IN A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEND, THE ITEMS ARE ON, AND THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, UM, WITHIN THAT STATUTE.

SO THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, BROWN.

I'M GONNA MOVE DOWN TO ITEM F.

I AM GOING TO BEAR WITH ME HERE.

[I.F. Discuss/Vote on Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

UH, JUST IN CONSTRAINTS OF THE, UM, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEIR SCHEDULES HERE ON DISCUSSING VOTE ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUESTS UNDER ANY POSITIONS.

UM, JOHN, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON.

AND I'VE BEEN TO COURT, UH, PREVIOUSLY AND MADE A REQUEST TO FULLY FUND ONE OF MY CPS UH, POSITIONS.

IT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED WITH SENATE BILL 22 MONEY.

UM, HOWEVER, I WANTED TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY FOR THE OTHER ATTORNEYS HAVING DONE A SURVEY WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES OF SIMILAR SIZE.

UH, WE'RE WAY BEHIND AS FAR AS SALARIES AND ALSO WITH OTHER, OTHER OFFICES HERE LOCALLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD GET THAT POSITION FULLY FUNDED AND THERE THEREFORE UTILIZE MY SENATE BILL 22 MONEY.

UH, LIKE OTHER COUNTIES ARE SIMILAR TO USING THAT.

HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING, WHAT WAS IT AGAIN? IF Y'ALL HAVE YOUR BOOKS, IF Y'ALL GO TO DEPARTMENT 4 75, SO THAT FIRST BOX, IT WOULD, IT'S A TOTAL COST OF 141,300, $311.

AND THAT'S JUST THE SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE CURRENT, UM, ATTORNEY POSITION THAT'S BEING PAID FROM SB 22 THAT HE'S REQUESTING IT TO BE PAID FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

AND YOU'RE GONNA TAKE,

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IF WE DO THIS AND YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT MONEY AND GIVE YOUR OTHER EMPLOYEES SUPPLEMENT, MY ATTORNEYS SUPPLEMENT, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, WHENEVER I, I NEEDED A CPS ATTORNEY, SO I WENT AHEAD AND UTILIZED THAT SENATE BILL 22 MONEY TO FUND THAT POSITION.

UH, THEN WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT SALARIES THIS YEAR, AND EVEN COMPARATIVELY WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MY ATTORNEYS ARE PRETTY FAR BEHIND THE OTHER COUNTIES AS FAR AS SALARIES.

AND SO, UH, TRYING TO BRING THEM UP TO WHERE THEY'RE EQUAL AND THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES UTILIZE THAT SENATE BILL 22 MONEY FOR.

UM, I WAS ABLE TO, LIKE I SAID, I WAS GONNA GET THAT FUNDED LAST YEAR JUST THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I WENT AHEAD AND FUNDED IT THROUGH THAT SENATE BILL 22.

BUT NOW GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT IT SINCE THOSE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE UTILIZED THAT MONEY THAT WAY, I'M WANTING TO TRY TO CATCH MY ATTORNEYS UP AND GET THEM ON EQUAL FOOTING AND, AND I CAN SHOW THOSE RECORDS.

I DIDN'T BRING THOSE WITH ME TODAY, BUT I, I UTILIZE COUNTIES OF EQUAL SIZE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO USE TARRANT COUNTY AS AN EXAMPLE.

THAT'S UNREALISTIC TO THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME SALARIES.

BUT I UTILIZE JOHNSON COUNTY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND 200,000.

UM, I'VE GOT ABOUT THREE OTHERS.

I, I LOOKED UP IN THE STATE THAT ARE IN CLOSE TO THE METROPLEX.

JOHNSON COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE, THE BETTER ONES TO USE AS A REFERENCE.

BUT I DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO CONFIRM WHERE MY PROSECUTORS ARE.

AND THIS NEW EMPLOYEE WOULD BE FOR WHAT? IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NEW EMPLOYEE.

I CURRENTLY HAVE THAT POSITION.

OH.

IT'S JUST UTILIZING, UH, THAT SENATE BILL 22 MONEY, UH, FOR THE SUPPLEMENTS, LIKE IT'S UTILIZED IN OTHER COUNTIES.

SO WE BACK BACKFILL THE PAY FOR THE EMPLOYEE THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE.

I HAVE THREE CPS ATTORNEYS WE'RE YEAH.

WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY.

CORRECT.

I GOT IT.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I JUST WANNA BE COMPLETELY UPFRONT ON THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I DO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS AND I CAN SHARE THOSE WITH YOU THAT SHOW THE SALARY RANGES FOR ATTORNEYS SIMILAR SIZE AND LOCATED TO THE METROPLEX.

I'M NOT, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO USE AUSTIN OR ANY OF THE BIGGER CITIES.

I'M TRYING TO USE THINGS, CITIES OR COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN SIZE AND LOCATION TO THE METROPLEX.

WE DISCUSSIONS OR ANY COMMENTS TO JOHN? MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

I'LL SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER HA TO IT.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? BECKY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OH, NO.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE.

IT'S OKAY.

I'LL WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND THEN THE, THE ONE OTHER REQUEST I HAD WAS ON THE INVESTIGATORS, UH, THAT SIMILARLY, UH, THEY WERE, UM, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK THAN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THE DA'S OFFICE NOT TRYING TO EQUALIZE THOSE, THOSE SALARIES STILL BE, EVEN WITH THE INCREASE, PROBABLY 5,000 LESS.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YEAH.

SO HE HAS A CHIEF INVESTIGATOR POSITION.

THAT POSITION, WE ACTUALLY ARE ASKING TO MAKE IT EQUAL TO THE DA'S INVESTIGATOR POSITIONS.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE THAT SALARY TO $93,035.

AND THEN THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATORS THAT THE REQUEST IS TO MOVE THOSE SALARIES TO 84,000.

HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE OF THAT? UM, THE 93,000 IS 5.88 AND THE OTHER THREE ARE 9.77.

HOW MUCH ARE THEY BEHIND THE OTHERS? THE OTHERS FOR THE DA'S OFFICE MAKE 90.

THEY ALL MAKE 93 0 35.

THAT'S THEIR COUNTY BASE SALARY.

AND THEN THEY GET SB 22 SUPPLEMENTS AS WELL.

HOW MUCH OFB DO THEY GET? OH, PROBABLY AROUND 20, BETWEEN TWO AND 2,500 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

AND FOR CLARIFICATION, I WOULDN'T BE UTILIZING MY SB 22 MONEY TO EQUALIZE OR BRING THOSE UP.

SO WHATEVER THEY GET HERE IS WHAT THEY WOULD GET.

YOU'RE USING THAT 22 MONEY FOR WHO? THE ATTORNEYS.

ATTORNEYS, RIGHT.

SO THE, THE ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE INCREASE FOR THE, IN THE TWO INVESTIGATOR POSITIONS, IS IT TWO? IT'S FOUR TOTAL.

OH, THERE'S FOUR, OKAY.

THERE'S A CHIEF AND THEN THREE INVESTIGATORS.

AND THAT WOULD BRING 'EM IN LINE WITH THE DA'S OR NO, IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE THE CHIEF IN LINE WITH THE DA'S.

IT WOULD STILL PUT THE OTHER INVESTIGATORS BELOW MORE THAN AROUND $10,000.

A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $10,000 BELOW.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THERE ALL THIS YEAR, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO, I'M SORRY, I I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO CATCH IT ALL UP AT ONCE.

JUST TRYING TO, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

I DID NOT SEE THESE MOTIONS.

UM, I WAS TOO BUSY LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOLD HAS MADE A MOTION

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FOR APPROVAL.

CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR, YOUR MOTION SIR? I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED THERE.

I BELIEVE APPROXIMATELY 93,000 FOR THE LEAD AND THEN 88,000 FOR THE OTHER THREE.

IS THAT ROUGHLY CORRECT? 90 3035 FOR THE CHIEF, 84,000 FOR THE OTHER INVESTIGATORS.

WHAT SHE SAID.

AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS SECONDED THAT MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE.

OH, ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN? THAT'S IT.

THANK.

NO, KEVIN, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK UP UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

NOW HE'S GOT TWO MORE.

I DID HAVE TWO MORE.

YOU SAID THAT WAS ALL.

I DID SAY THAT, BUT OH, YOU'RE OUT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

THE, UH, PLATTING OFFICE, WE WERE ASKING, UH, FOR AN INCREASE FOR BOTH THOSE POSITIONS.

DOES THAT BE JAMIE AND KAREN? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE REQUEST? THE REQUEST IS TO TAKE THE PLATTING POSITION TO 88,000, WHICH IS 5.85%, AND THE PLATTING ASSISTANT POSITION TO 61,800, WHICH IS 4.71.

MOTION MADE MOTION IS MADE BY, EXCUSE ME, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

COMMISSIONER HOLD HAS MADE THE SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? AND YOU SAID HOW MUCH WAS THE INCREASE ON THE SECOND, ON THE SECOND ONE? 4.7148.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

CARRIES FIVE.

OH, ANYTHING ELSE? THAT, THAT'S IT.

AND THANK YOU, BECKY.

IT'S IN THIS, THAT FALLS IN THIS CATEGORY HERE.

I HAVE A MESSAGE HERE FROM, UH, JUSTICE OF PIECE THREE.

AND HE'S REQUESTING THAT WE FUND HIS POSITION THAT HE'S ASKED FOR OR WANTS TO KNOW IF HE CAN PAY FOR IT OUT OF THE FUND 57 ACCOUNT.

SO I, I NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

WHO IS IT? RANDALL GRISSOM.

OH, JP THREE.

OH, OKAY.

HE'S ASKING, UH, HE NEEDS THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR POSITION FUNDED, IF NOT THROUGH FUND 10, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO FUND IT THROUGH FUND 57.

AND, UH, HE SPOKE TO THAT WHEN HE WAS HERE THE OTHER DAY.

AND I WANT KNOW WHETHER THAT FUND 57 THAT THEY HAVE IS ELIGIBLE TO FUND THAT OR NOT.

QUOTING HIM AGAIN, IT SAYS BY LAW I CAN FUND STAFF POSITIONS WITH THIS MONEY.

HE HAS TO HAVE OUR APPROVAL.

COORDINATOR POSITION, JP.

AND THAT'S FOR THE ONE NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE HE WANTS? NO, THIS IS FOR JP ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.

GOT IT.

SORRY, I WAS UNDER CONSTABLE.

YEAH, THIS WOULD BE DEPARTMENT 4 63.

UM, THE ASK US TO TAKE A POSITION TO 69,474.

IT'S UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME, WHICH OF HIS STAFF MEMBERS WOULD GO TO THAT POSITION? SO I JUST TOOK, MOST OF THE STAFF MAKES 55,661.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, IT'S 24.82%.

SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF IT CAN BE FUNDED WITH THE, THE FUND 57 ACCOUNT OR NOT.

SO IT'S THE 57 JUSTICE COURT, UM, TECHNOLOGY FUND.

AND TO FINANCE THE COST OF PROVIDING CO OR PERSONNEL INCLUDING SALARY, THE BENEFIT FOR THE WORKERS.

I TAKE THAT AS A YES.

SO WOULD EVERY, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE OTHERS IN HERE THAT CAN YOU HAVE A SIMILAR REQUEST? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WAS THE ONLY REQUE REQUEST FROM JP COURT FOR A SALARY, UM, INCREASE.

THEY DID HAVE THE BILINGUAL PAY AND THE CERTIFICATION PAY THAT THEY ASKED FOR ALL FOR EVERYONE.

BUT THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS JUST FOR A SPECIFIC POSITION INCREASE.

HOW WAS, HOW WAS FUND 57 FUNDED THROUGH COURT FEES? THAT ONE OF THEM IS PART OF A, LIKE A LOCAL CONSOLIDATED COURT CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CASE DIVIDED BY THE STATUTE.

AND THIS AMOUNT IS SUSTAINABLE GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT A ONE TIME POP? UM, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST BALANCE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'VE RUN INTO IN THE PAST IS WE HAVE REQUESTS FOR

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ADDITIONAL PAY FOR PEOPLE THAT COMES THROUGH AND THEN, UH, UH, THEY WANNA MAKE THAT IN ADDITION TO, UH, SOME KIND OF A COLA PAY INCREASE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.

AND, AND UH, SO WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CAUTIOUS IN THE PAST THAT IF THERE WAS AN ASK AND IT WAS APPROVED, THEN THOSE PEOPLE THEN WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A COLA.

SO IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND.

SO WHAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE DID YOU SAY THIS IS THIS SALARY? 24, ALMOST 25.

25% SALARY.

24.82.

AND IT'S MAKING AN ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR? YES.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, SOMEBODY'S WATCHING TO SAY, WELL YOU DID THIS, NOW YOU'VE GOTTA DO THAT.

THAT'S, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS REQUESTED YES.

IN THIS.

SO NEXT YEAR, WOULD THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY COME OUT OF THAT SAME FUND OR WOULD THAT BE YES, IT WOULD.

THEN IT WOULD BE NOT ALL OF 'EM HAVE THE SAME, SO I'M SURE.

SO HOW WE DO THOSE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS FOR THE JPS IS BASICALLY WHATEVER REVENUE THAT JP BRINGS IN AND THEN HOW THEY USE THE FUND.

WE TRACK THAT FUND BALANCE SEPARATELY.

AND SO NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE, WOULD, DEPENDING ON THEIR BALANCE, WOULD BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

LIKE I SAID, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I BELIEVE JP THREE HAS THE, UM, HIGHEST BALANCE IN IT.

BUT AGAIN, NOT ALL PROBABLY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN.

I'LL JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IT IS THE HIGHEST BALANCE WOULD REPRESENT THEN THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY THE BUSIEST.

THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST IT, AND AGAIN, THINGS CAN CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IT DECREASES, SO.

I MEAN, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

LOOK ABOUT, I MEAN TODAY I CAN, I CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT AGAIN, YES, IF SOMEONE CAME NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT HAVE THOSE FUNDS TO UTILIZE, UM, FOR IT OR NOT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME BASED ON WHAT THEIR REVENUE THEY BRING IN, IN THERE.

WHAT AMOUNT DID FUND 57 INCREASE OVER THIS PAST YEAR FOR JP THREE? UM, GOOD QUESTION.

I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.

A LOT OF, HONESTLY, A LOT OF THE FEES OF OFFICE ARE ACTUALLY DOWN, UM, VERSUS INCREASING.

BUT AGAIN, WE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE EBBS AND FLOWS.

WE'LL, WE WILL INCREASE IT BASED ON COLLECTIONS AND HISTORICAL AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR IT'LL DECREASE AND THEN IT'LL START TO INCREASE.

SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SPECIFICALLY THAT ONE INCREASED OR NOT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT I HAD TO DECREASE.

SO, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HANDLING THIS OUT OF FUND 57, BUT IF WE HANDLE IT OUT OF FUND 57 THIS YEAR, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO EACH YEAR? BECAUSE IF THIS, WHAT I WAS ASKING WHILE AGO, OR AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT, LOOK, I, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRETTY LARGE BALANCE.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS? PROBABLY, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.

IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, DOES THAT RIGHT? OR IF ANOTHER JP ASKED, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT AMOUNT TO PICK IT UP OR WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP.

SAME WAY WITH SB 22.

THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND SB 22, IN MY OPINION, EXCEPT THE LEGISLATURE IS IN CONTROL OF THE SB 22 FUNDING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING AROUND AGAIN OR NOT.

WHICH PART OF THAT, WHETHER YOU'RE USING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND OR FUND 10 OR ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER'S COURT SETS THE SALARIES FOR THESE POSITIONS.

SO IT'S WHETHER YOU'RE USING THAT FUND OR USING FUND 10, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA SET THAT SALARY TO THAT OR NOT.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER HOLT OR ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER HOLT'S QUESTION OF HOW MUCH WAS PUT IN THERE THIS YEAR.

BUT I, I CAN, SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO TODAY.

BY, BY, BY ANY MEANS.

I'M, I JUST GOT THE MESSAGE HERE.

BEEN ON VACATION, HE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW.

AND SO, UH, WE MAY WANT TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.

COVERED UNDER ITEM, MY OWN CAP AND NON CAP BUDGET REQUEST.

OF THE VERY, WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE.

I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP 'CAUSE IT FITS IN THIS CATEGORY.

WELL, I MEAN, AND, AND TO THAT, TO THE REQUEST, I MEAN JP THREE IS, IS A BUSY COURT.

I MEAN BE OBVIOUSLY, AND WITH THE GROWTH WE HAVE, I MEAN LIKELY IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA GO DOWN, BUT IT COULD THEN, IF IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, THEN THAT WOULD THEN REVERT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND THEN PAY FOR THAT OR THE OTHER FUND FUND 50.

IS THAT CORRECT? 2, 2 7.

HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? 24% RAISE? THIS IS A CHANGE OF POSITION FROM, FROM I GUESS PROBABLY WHATEVER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, JUST A CLERK.

AND I THINK IF YOU, FROM A CLERK TOO, THINK BACK TO HIS PRESENTATION.

HE KIND OF IS TRYING TO GET A SALARY STRUCTURE LIKE THE DISTRICT COURT AND THE COUNTY COURT, UM, AT LAW.

I MEAN, I THINK HE HAD THAT REQUEST.

THE OTHER JP COURT SIT AND HE HAS A LARGER STAFF WERE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT, THAT HE MADE FOR THE REQUEST.

UNLESS THERE'S ACTION TO

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BE TAKEN.

I WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THIS.

UM, WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT.

UH, THERE'S ONE OTHER THING HERE.

BEAR WITH ME AGAIN, JUST ACCOMMODATING SOME, UM, SCHEDULES HERE.

I WANT TO GO TO ITEM, I MEAN TO BOUNCE AROUND.

WE'RE GONNA GET IT ALL

[I.I. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

KIM, UH, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP.

SO JUST A FEW UPDATES FROM THE OTHER DAY.

UM, SOME, SOME THINGS MOVED AROUND FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN ITS IT RELATED BUDGET ITEMS. UM, JAMES HAS DECIDED THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BELONG INTO THE ACTUAL DEPARTMENTS' BUDGETS.

SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AB OVERHAUL OF 25,795 COUNTY COURT AT LAW.

TWO, AN ALL-IN-ONE COMPUTER ON BENCH AND IN JUDGE'S OFFICE.

TWO OF THOSE FOR 3040 $4.

UM, JP THREE, AGAIN OUT OF THEIR FUND, 10 FUNDS DOCUSIGN SOFTWARE FOR 1500 AND A-H-D-M-I TRANSMITTER FOR $110.

AND THEN WE ALSO, AS BRIANNA MENTIONED, COULD JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW HAS NOT BEEN PAID SO FAR.

WE DON'T HAVE UPDATED AMOUNTS ON, ON THINGS THAT WILL BE BILLED BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

FOR THE, UM, UPSTAIRS COURTROOM, UH, I DO KNOW $1,850 OF THAT WILL BE ROLLED OVER, BUT THAT'S FOR THE ARCHITECT'S, UH, FINAL REPORT.

AND THEN I'M NOT SURE ON THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WORK UPSTAIRS, BUT THERE'S, UH, AN UNPAID BALANCE AT THIS POINT OF $160,000.

BASICALLY, WE ALSO WILL HAVE $60,050 FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER ARCHITECT THAT WILL ROW FORWARD.

AND, UM, THEN FOR THE ARCHITECT ENGINEER AND THE CONSTRUCTION, THE $500,000 BUDGET FOR THE 8 0 1 SANTA FE ADDRESS, THAT FULL AMOUNT HAS NOT, NOTHING'S BEEN PAID AGAINST THAT AT THIS POINT.

I'VE, I'VE, JACOB MARTIN IS HOPEFULLY GONNA GET ME SOMETHING THIS WEEK, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE FULL 500,000 WOULD NEED TO ROLL OVER.

AND THEN THEY HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR THE PARKING LOT CONSTRUCTION FOR $179,600.

SO THERE'S A TOTAL OF ROLLOVER FOR THOSE ITEMS OF $1,344,022.

AND THEN COUNTY COURT AT LAW HAS A, UM, TWO UPSTAIRS HAS THEIR AV SYSTEM ADDITIONS AND UPDATES ROLLOVER FUNDS OF $18,000.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU COULD THINK OF? SO LET'S JUST UPDATE, UNLESS Y'ALL WANNA START GOING THROUGH, UM, CAPTAIN ON CAP BY THE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S JUST UPDATES ON WHAT YOU HAVE.

THAT'S JUST UPDATES ON WE'VE GONE OVER THE SOME CHANGES.

THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT OUR FOCUS WOULD BE, IS TO HEAR THAT.

ITEM D DISCUSSED VOTING SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON ELECTED EMPLOYEES.

UNLESS THE COURT WANTS TO DIG DEEPER.

THANK YOU, KIM.

I WANNA GO BACK TO ITEM B UNDER GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES.

BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? OKAY, ITEM C ON DISCUSS VOTE ON PROPOSED TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GONNA GO JUMP DOWN BELOW THAT.

BUT UNDER

[I.D. Discuss/Vote on Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

IS THAT A I'M GONNA DEFER TO, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ONE.

YOU WANNA MOVE THAT DOWN THE LIST? WE CAN GO THROUGH SOME OTHER THINGS.

WE WANNA TACKLE THAT.

I, I, UH, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON THE BIGGEST ASSET WE HAVE AS A COUNTY IS THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND MAKE US WHO WE ARE AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

WELL, TO DO IT NOW.

I AGREE.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT.

WELL, I, I NEEDED UNDERSTAND, I NEEDED TO HEAR THIS.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S, TO ME, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THIS, THIS NUMBER DOES INCLUDE ALL FUND 10 ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL FUND 10 EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR BOOKS WITH YOU UNDER THE TAB FUND 10, THE VERY FIRST PAGE THAT HAS THE SUMMARY OF ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS IS THE ESTIMATE BELOW THAT.

SO I PRESENTED A 1%, A THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON WHAT WEBSITE YOU LOOK AT, WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT CURRENT INFLATION RATE'S AT.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM PROBABLY 2.8.

IT'S UNDER THE FUND 10 TAB, THE PINK TAB.

SO, AND WHEN I, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUND 10 AND THESE NUMBERS,

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NOW THIS WOULD BE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IF THEY WERE TO STAY AT THEIR CURRENT, UM, STEP AND GRADE, IT DOESN'T REFLECT THEIR NEW STEP AND GRADE THAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED THOSE NUMBERS.

I HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE GO TO A 4% COLA AS PER BECKY'S NUMBERS PRESENTED HERE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

DISCUSSION, I THINK TO YOUR, TO YOUR MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT, YOU LOOK AT THE INFLATION INDEX, IT'S TRENDING AROUND THERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER RESPECTIVE, AND WE DON'T BASE OUR DECISIONS ON OTHER COUNTIES, UH, AND TO SOME EXTENT I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT TO MAINTAIN PARITY AND KEEP THE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE WITHOUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.

AND, UM, SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE.

OH, THANK YOU SIR.

UM, NEXT, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR SECOND GRADE? YEAH, THE SHERIFF'S HERE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SECOND GRADE.

YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO GO.

YEAH, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

GO AHEAD.

UH, JUST, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE.

THEY'RE IN MY BOOK AND THEY'RE IN Y'ALL'S BOOKS THAT WE PRESENTED.

UH, AND, AND AGAIN, WE COMPARE WITH WEATHERFORD, WHICH SINCE THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US AND THEY KIND OF DO THE SURVEY FROM THE METROPLEX.

SO WE'RE IN THAT MARKET.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO EVEN GET CLOSE TO WEATHERFORD.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY BACK TO GET CLOSE TO WEATHERFORD JUST AS A RETENTION TOOLS, RECRUITING TOOL TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE RIGHT.

ONES THAT WE TRAIN INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, JUST TRAINING THEM FOR OTHER AGENCIES.

SO, OH, I'M GONNA TRY TO ARTICULATE THIS WITHOUT BEING TAKEN OUTTA TEXT.

UM, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, THE NUMBERS AND JUST WHERE THE PAIN HAS BEEN, UM, HAS BEEN WHEN WE GET SOMEBODY ON, WE, WE, WE HAVE, WE CAN GET 'EM IN THE DOOR.

THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN WE TRAIN THEM AND THEN WE HIT THAT, THAT, THAT POINT WHERE NOW WE'RE NOT AS COMPETITIVE WHEN THEY CAN JUMP AND GO TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

I MEAN, RIGHT FROM THE GET GO WHEN WE, WHEN WE START 'EM, ACTUALLY, WE'RE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WEATHERFORD RIGHT.

BUT THEY CATCH US WITHIN LIKE TWO YEARS.

AND OF COURSE THEY'RE STEPPING GRADE.

THEY'RE 5% EVERY YEAR NOW.

AND OURS ARE 2%.

AND PLEASE TAKE THIS AS, I MEAN, AND I'M, WHATEVER IT TAKES, PUBLIC SAFETY IS BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

'CAUSE IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE TO AND BE SAFE AND, AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES AND AND SO FORTH, AND WE'RE NOT DOING VERY GOOD.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN, WE OBVIOUSLY DONE THAT.

MY CONCERN ABOUT THE SHERIFF IS THAT IN LOOKING AT THOSE, I WANNA BE SURE WHERE THE PAIN IS, IS WHERE WE'RE LOSING THOSE OFFICERS FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHEN WE HIT THAT THRESHOLD OF THAT, OR I GUESS THAT AREA OF WEAKNESS WHERE WE ARE NOT AS COMPETITIVE AND THEN THEY HAVE THAT OPTION OF MAYBE MOVING ON AND THEN WE GOTTA RETRAIN AND GO BACK THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

AND THAT WE ALL WANNA STOP THAT REVOLVING WHEEL OF THAT ROTATING DOOR OF THEM GOING IN AND OUT.

BUT I WANT TO JUST IN LOOKING AT THAT, SOME OF THE RAISES WHERE I WANT REALLY LIKE TO ZERO IN ON WHERE THE PAIN IS, IS TO GIVE THEM AND TRY TO CLOSE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT.

WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH OBVIOUSLY FORT WORTH OR, UH, IN SOME CASES EVEN WEATHERFORD, BUT WE CAN COME DARN CLOSE.

AND, AND SO SOME OF THE SALARIES, ARE THEY WHERE THEY NEED TO BE FROM THE UPPER ECHELON WHERE WE'RE NOT LOSING PEOPLE TO MORE OF MAYBE OF A NARROWED FOCUS ON THE, ON THE, ON THOSE ON THE STREETS AND THOSE THAT ARE, WE'RE LOSING, I GUESS IS THAT, IF I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, IF I CAN WELL, I, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING IT CORRECTLY.

UH, I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE TO A SMALL EXTENT.

WE'RE NOT.

I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

DON'T, I I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO CLOSE OR SAY THE UPPER, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AS YOU WILL, DON'T NEED RAISES OR SO FORTH.

I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE'RE FOCUSING ON WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THE PAIN IS AND WHERE WE'RE LOSING OUR PEOPLE.

AND, AND THAT'S JUST IT.

BUT THE WHOLE THING IS THE WHOLE SALARY STRUCTURE BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THE POSITION, NOT THE PERSON.

SO THE PERSON THAT'S HERE AT YEAR ONE OR TWO, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR FUTURE AT YEAR 10 OR 12 OR 14.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO, SO THAT'S WHY OKAY.

WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY COMPRESSED COMPARED TO OTHER AGENCIES AND WE ACTUALLY NEED TO EXPAND THAT.

THEN BRING 'EM ON AND TRAIN 'EM AGAIN.

NO, I JUST, I I THREW IT OUT THERE AND I HOPE IT'S TAKEN FOR THE TEXT.

AMEN.

IN AND THAT CORRECT.

I'M JUST, MY CONCERN IS, IS GET AN OFFICER, SPEND THE MONEY, TRAIN THEM, AND THEN HERE WE ARE, WE GOT 'EM TRAINED AND, AND HERE THEY GO LOSING 'EM AND THEN THAT REVOLVING DOOR, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT ALL AGAIN AND

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AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE PAINT IS AND HOW WE CAN BETTER UTILIZE OR EFFECTIVELY UTILIZE FUNDS TO KEEP THOSE OFFICERS AND WANT 'EM TO KEEP, STAY HERE.

WELL, I BELIEVE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GIVE THEM A FUTURE.

AND THE WAY TO GIVE THEM A FUTURE IS SHOW THEM WHERE THEY WILL BE IN FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS OR WHATEVER.

IF THEY STAY HERE, UM, YES, WE CAN GET 'EM IN THE DOOR.

WE CAN GET THE NEW GUYS AND YES, WE PAY VERY WELL TO START.

GOOD ANSWER.

AND THEN ONCE WE TRAIN THEM, THEN YES, THEY'RE A VERY MARKETABLE COMMODITY AT THAT POINT.

RIGHT? NO, THANK YOU.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM.

GOOD ANSWER.

I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE THE REVOLVING DOOR.

WE, SORRY, QUESTION I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I, UM, UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THE JUDGE SAID SOMETHING AND YOU COMMENTED THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE PAY SCALE IS RELATIVELY COMPRESSED, I BELIEVE IS THE WORD THAT YOU USE AND WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT.

UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN ON THAT.

WELL, JUST LIKE IF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE LIKE WEATHERFORDS FOR EXAMPLE.

, UM, RIGHT NOW OUR, OUR STEP IN GRADES, IT'S 2% PER YEAR AND WE'RE KIND OF MAXED OUT AT 12 YEARS, 24%.

UH, WEATHERFORDS USED TO BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT.

WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS YEAR WITH THAT IS A 3%, YOU KNOW, OVER THE 12 YEARS, WEATHERFORD HAS A 5%, THEY'RE GUARANTEED A 5% COLA INCREASE FOR EVERY STEP IN GRADE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY EXPAND IT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE LENGTH OF TIME, NOT NECESSARILY ACROSS POSITIONS.

KIND OF BOTH.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE TIME THERE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO GET TO NINE YEARS LIKE WEATHERFORD, THEY CAN MAX OUT A PATROLMAN IN NINE YEARS.

AND, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE TO KIND OF GIVE THOSE THOSE STEPS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE OPTED FOR A 3% THIS YEAR.

AND LOOKING BACK LAST YEAR, THAT 3% WOULD'VE BEEN VERY COMPETITIVE.

BUT WEATHERFORD, THEY JUMPED TO 5% AND THEY KIND OF BLEW US OUT OF THE WATER RIGHT THERE.

BUT, UH, WE KNOW WE CAN'T CATCH UP TO THEM.

WE CAN'T EVEN REALLY TRY TO GET THAT CLOSE, BUT WE CAN TRY TO TRY TO STAY IN THE RACE.

AND WE ARE DOING THAT.

AND, AND, AND THIS COURT'S AWESOME.

AND WE, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US.

SO THE COLA THAT WE JUST, WE JUST VOTED ON, IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS PAY SCALE? IF, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME YES, I WOULD WANT IT TO BE IN ADDITION TO, SO IF WE LOOK AT THE COLA WE DID LAST YEAR, LOOK AT THE LAST, HISTORICALLY IT'S HARD TO GUESS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOUND FINANCIAL PLANNING HERE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY AND THEN LOOK AT THIS NEW PAY PLAN THAT'S ADOPTED, AND IF INFLATION KEEPS RUNNING THE WAY IT IS AND USE SOME COMMON SENSE OR THINK HOW THINGS NORMALLY WOULD GO, IF BUDGETS CORRECT, THERE MAY BE SOME COALS ANTICIPATED FOR EMPLOYEES.

YOU MAY BE CLOSER TO THAT 5%.

WE WERE TALKING ACTUALLY SOME, SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE A LOT, A LOT MORE THAN THAT FOR THIS TIME.

YEAH, I WAS, THAT'S WHY I WAS RUNNING THOSE NUMBERS OUT JUST NOW.

SO I'M TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING SO I CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION HERE.

LIKE I SAID, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THOSE YEAH.

JUST TO, FOR THE DECOMPRESSION ASPECT OF IT.

SOME, SOME OF 'EM WILL HAVE MORE THAN THAT.

THANK YOU HONOR VERY MUCH.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAD SOME, UM, RAISES THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I KNOW RUSTY FROM PERMITTING IS HERE.

HE MAY LIKE TO SPEAK ON HIS DEPARTMENT'S REQUEST.

RUSTY, COME ON UP.

WELL, I, I GAVE MY PRESENTATION OFFICER LAST WEEK AND WE'RE GONNA RAISE PERMITTING FEES.

SO LIKE I WAS TELLING YOU LAST WEEK, I STILL THINK THAT'S GOING TO COVER WHAT WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? GO AHEAD AND TELL US AGAIN.

UM, YOU GOT IT'S DEPARTMENT 6 30, 6 30 UNDER FUND 10.

YEAH, BASICALLY HE'S ASKING FOR ALL OF HIS IN INVEST, UM, INSPECTORS TO GO TO, UM, $70,000 WITH ONE AT 68 AND WILL, THAT INCLUDES AN OFFICE MANAGER SALARY GOING TO 70,000 AS WELL, WHICH I THINK THAT POSITION IS ALSO WORKING TO BE AN INSPECTOR AS WELL.

SHE'S GETTING CERTIFIED.

CERTIFIED, BUT SHE'S GOING TO BE THE OFFICE MANAGER.

SO, AND THAT POSITION WOULD BE KIND OF IN LINE WITH THE OTHER OFFICE MANAGERS IN THE COUNTY.

I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE MR. BRONNER'S SUGGESTIONS,

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I'LL SECOND IT TO GET TO THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? THE REASON THAT, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE REASON I FEEL THIS IS, UM, OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO ME IS WE GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM CITIZENS ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I GET THE MOST CALLS ABOUT IS ABOUT DRAINAGE.

IT'S ABOUT SEPTIC ISSUES, IT'S ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF I JUDGE THE VOLUME OF CALLS IN MY OFFICE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT VERY CLOSELY IMPACTS A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS.

I'M CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO PUT IT ON THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I WOULDN'T PUT WHAT I DO ON THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FUND APPROPRIATELY GIVEN HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING.

GIVEN THAT WE HAVE TWO THIRDS OF OUR RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.

THIS IS, THIS IS A DARN IMPORTANT PART DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I'LL ADD TO THAT JUST A, JUST A BRIEF COMMENT.

YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GET BUSIER.

YOUR, YOUR STAFF IS GONNA GET MORE WITH 60% OF THE GROWTH OCCURRING IN THE ET JS, UH, AND THE DEMAND.

AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE MORE STRINGENT ON TRYING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE AND, AND, AND REALLY AGAIN, HOW TO SAY THIS DELICATELY TO, TO BETTER PROFESSIONALIZE.

AND THAT'S WHAT, WHY YOU'RE HERE.

ACTUALLY IT IS TO BETTER PROFESSIONALIZE THE, THE TALENT AND THE SKILLSET WE HAVE IN IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN PARKER COUNTY.

IF WE DON'T GET THIS RIGHT WITH THE DRAINAGE AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MISERABLE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND SO, UH, I TOTALLY SUPPORT COMMISSIONER HOLT WITH WHAT, UH, THAT THAT IS.

AND IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS SIDE? AND JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, WITH, WITH OUR CURRENT PERMIT LOAD, OTHER COMPARABLE COUNTIES, WE DO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES.

SO Y'ALL ARE GETTING A BANG FOR THE BUCK.

I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE PROCESSING OVER 1600 PERMITS A YEAR WITH JUST SIX EMPLOYEES.

AND WITH THAT NEW PERMITTING FEE, IT'S STILL FAIR AND LOWER THAN A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, CORRECT? IT IS, IT IS.

IT IS.

AND THAT OFFSETS THE MAJORITY OF THIS.

IT'S, AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY, YOU SAID SIX EMPLOYEES.

I LOOKED AT THAT CHART AND THERE'S COUNTIES THAT HAVE WELL ABOVE THAT.

THAT ARE, THAT ARE LESS POPULATION OF US.

THAT'S IRONIC.

IT'S AMAZING TO ME.

UM, BUT YOU'RE IN THAT, THAT MAINSTREAM OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER TO HAVE.

YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNDERSTAFFED IN THE FUTURE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THOUGH.

WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE DO HAVE SOME GOOD, WE WE HAVE GREAT EMPLOYEE.

I MEAN WE, WE GOT, WE CAN HANDLE THE WORKLOAD.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRAG ON MY TEAM 'CAUSE WE GOT SOME, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, SIR.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CLOTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BELT, THE HOLSTERS, THE BOOTS, UH, ANY OF THE GEAR THAT GOES UNDER HOLSTERS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES.

FIVE.

OH, ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WANT TO WANT TO COME UP? WE'LL JUST DO THAT.

CONS.

I KNOW OF THE THREE CONSTABLES I DO.

YOU GOTTA BE THE ONE, WELL, THE THREE CONSTABLES THAT ARE HERE, THEY'RE, I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE SOME NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS THAT, THAT ISN'T THAT THIS ITEM, BUT THEY DO HAVE REQUESTS ON THEIR UNIFORM ALLOWANCES.

OKAY, WELL NO, YOU'RE ON THE LIST.

OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

YEAH, SO THE REQUEST IS, SO CURRENTLY FOR A NON-UNIFORM OR A PLAIN CLOTHED OFFICER, THEY RECEIVE A $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE FOR A UNIFORM ANNUAL $600 ANNUAL CLOTHING ALLOWANCE FOR A UNIFORMED OFFICER, IT'S A $1,200 ALLOWANCE.

SO FOR MOST OF THE CONSTABLES, THEIR EMPLOYEES RECEIVE THE $600 ALLOWANCE AND MOST OF THEM ARE REQUESTING TO GO TO THE $1,200 ALLOWANCE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY MOST, WHO ARE THE MOST, UM, I KNOW PRECINCT HAVE COUNCIL FLOOR, THEY HAVE UNIFORMS AND I, I THINK WHAT THE BIGGER QUESTION IS HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF UNIFORM.

AND THAT MAY JUST BE MY OPINION.

UH, UNIFORM MAY BE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS PANTS AND EVERYTHING.

MY UNIFORM IS SHIRTS WITH BADGE AND JEANS.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY UNIFORM.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENCE.

PAIR OF BLUE JEANS DON'T COST A WHOLE LOT LESS THAN PAIR UNIFORM PANTS.

THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT.

AND THEY, BUT THEY DON'T TEAR UP AS BAD.

SO PRECINCT TWO'S GOING TO A, A REAL UNIFORM.

YES, SIR.

WE'RE ALREADY, YOU ALREADY WHAT? WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY WEARING.

UH, YOU ALREADY WEARING THEM TO THE, THE ADDITION TO THAT UNIFORM.

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YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY DOESN'T PROVIDE, UH, FIREARMS. THEY DON'T DO IT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T PROVIDE THEIR HOLSTERS AS WELL.

SO, UH, ANY PART OF YOUR DUTY RIG, UM, A GOOD LEATHER DUTY RIG WILL COST YOU ABOUT 500 BUCKS ANYWAY TO, TO OUTFIT HOLSTERS ARE PROBABLY 2, 2 50, UH, FOR A GOOD RETENTION HOLSTER.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CLOTHING, IT'S, IT'S ALL OF THE ACCESSORIES THAT GO WITH IT, YOU KNOW.

SO, JOE, IN THE PAST, THERE'S THE, THE, THIS HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE.

I BELIEVE THE, THE HEARTBURN I THINK THAT, THAT WE HAVE IS BUYING PEOPLE'S CLOTHES TO COME TO WORK.

JUST, JUST THE ACTUAL CLOTHES, NOT THE BELT, NOT THE, NOT THE ACCESSORIES THAT ARE REQUIRED, BUT, UH, SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, ARE WE GONNA BUY UNIFORMS FOR EVERYBODY TO COME TO WORK? THAT'S WHAT THE HEARTBURN HAS BEEN.

YES, SIR.

HELP ME THROUGH THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S A SPECIALIZED UNIFORM.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S IDENTIFYING YOU AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM, THAN JUST ANYONE ELSE THAT COMES IN.

I MEAN, I JUST HAVE PATCHES, BADGES, RIGHT.

YOUR DUTY GEAR, ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF.

UH, I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR BODY ARMOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT, BUT MY BODY ARMOR'S EXPIRED FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR OFFICE.

SO, UM, THAT WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE UNIFORM AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE A COST ON THAT PART? I DON'T WANNA GET OFF ON WHAT YOU'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH UNIFORMS. WHAT IS THAT PART FOR SIX? WELL, THOUSAND.

I, I HAD FIVE.

I NEED SIX ACTUALLY.

MINE IS EXPIRED AS WELL.

SO IT'S 9,600 TOTAL.

9,600 TOTAL.

YES, SIR.

UM, AND WHAT I WAS GONNA DO, I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR A STORAGE CONTAINER IN THERE.

UH, I THINK MARK TOLD ME IT WAS ABOUT 5,000.

UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BACK OFF OF THAT.

IF, IF THAT'LL HELP, YOU KNOW, FUND THE BODY ARMOR I MOVED TO.

GOOD.

JOE, PAY FOR THE BODY ARMOR FOR SIX.

YES SIR.

AND IT WAS HOW MUCH? UH, IT'S 1600 EACH.

SO IT'S RIGHT AT 96.

9,600.

YES SIR.

MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SIX.

SO INCLUDING OUR CONSTABLE, CORRECT? I THINK.

YES SIR.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED ANOTHER CONSTABLE IN PRECINCT.

TWO SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND THIS, JUST TO CLARIFY, JUST 9,600? YES SIR.

WITH BODY ARMOR THAT'S EXPIRED FOR YOU IN YOUR, IN YOUR OFFICE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL ABOVE OR JUST QUESTION OR IS THERE BODY ARMOR REQUESTED FROM ANY OF THE OTHER CONSTABLE OFFICES FROM EXPIRED? OKAY.

OH, WELL WE, THAT'S FOR NEW POSITIONS.

THAT'S IF THEIR NEW POSITIONS ARE APPROVED.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ON THE FLOOR ON THIS, TO VOTE ON THIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WHAT ABOUT FOR, I'M, I'M CHECKING.

I DON'T KNOW HE NEEDED IT, DID HE? NO.

I DIDN'T THINK HE DID.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FILE ON PAPER? CURIOUS.

SO JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THAT UNIFORM REQUEST DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T AT A LATER DATE AGAIN.

JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THAT TODAY DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T COME BACK AT A LATER DATE AT ANOTHER COURT.

WE'RE NOT REJECTING ANYBODY.

WE'RE JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO SELECT OUT AGAIN THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE HAVE TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A NO BRAINER.

YOU GOTTA HAVE, YOU GOTTA HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT PROTECTS YOUR PEOPLE.

JUDGE, CAN I STEP BACK JUST A MOMENT HERE? UH, BACK TO THE, WHAT I DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

UM, WHEN WE'RE APPROVING THE COLA REQUEST, ARE WE DOING THAT IN ADDITION TO RIGHT.

THOSE, IS THAT A QUESTION YOU HAD TOO? YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WHEN WE'RE, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING A 4% COLA FOR EVERYBODY, AM I TO LOOK AT IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY RECEIVED A 10% INCREASE, DO THEY GET THE COLA ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL? IT'S BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY IN YEARS PAST A LOT OF YEARS.

SOMETIMES IT'S THAT SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET A SALARY BROUGHT UP TO SOMEONE ELSE'S.

SO IF THE COLA ISN'T GIVEN ON TOP OF IT, THEN THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, THAT PERCENTAGE BEHIND.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT AT SOME POINT, NOT TODAY, BUT YOU COULD GIVE US YEAH.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY.

I CAN PROVIDE A LIST AND WHAT THEIR PERCENTAGE IS AND THEN WE CAN MAKE, MAKE THE DECISION IF THAT'S GONNA BE A COAL ON TOP OF THAT OR NOT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS MS ITEM WE WANT TO DO? UH, THE CONSTABLE THREE'S UH, GEAR IS A PROTECTION.

HE, HE SAID HE ONLY NEEDED IT IF WE APPROVE THE POSITION THAT HE'S REQUESTED.

OH, RIGHT.

I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING, LOOKING AT ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE FOR YEAH, I DIDN'T, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE.

UM,

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WE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE ON THAT TODAY.

BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF, SINCE WE GAVE THAT COLA, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE EITHER APPOINTED OR JUST POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT, THAT MAKE MORE THAN ELECTED OFFICIALS DO.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY OUR NEXT ITEM IS PROBABLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WE'VE PROGRESSED THROUGH HERE.

AM I RIGHT? YEP.

JUDGE.

UH, YEAH.

UM, THERE IS A TAB IN YOUR BOOK FOR APPOINTED OFFICIALS.

SO THIS DOES HAVE THE APPOINTED A LIST OF ALL THE APPOINTED POSITIONS, WHAT THEY'RE PAID.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE MAY BE SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS, OBVIOUSLY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY DO WITH SB 22 MONEY THAT THEIR SALARIES CAN GET UP THERE.

UM, I MEAN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THEM.

THERE IS A BREAKDOWN IN HERE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SALARIES PER POSITION UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TAB AS WELL.

AS I LOOK AT THIS LIST, I WOULD SAY THE AUDITOR AND THE IT DIRECTOR BOTH MAKE MORE THAN SEVERAL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS PURCHASING AGENT WITH WHAT COLA AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHERS.

I TELL YOU THERE ARE OTHERS IN THERE THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS.

THAT, AND, AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT SALARY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AUTO ALLOWANCE, INCLUDING, UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL SALARIES.

YEAH, I MEAN, DEPENDING ON WHICH ELECTED OFFICIAL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTABLES THAT ARE AT 95, 5 33.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ELECTED POSITION OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE MORE THAN OUR CONSTABLES DO.

WELL, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK TO EARLIER IS THE, THE, WHEN YOU REPORT A SALARY FOR A COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE IN THERE AS SALARY.

THE ACTUAL SALARY IS OVER HERE AT 1 26.

YEAH, NO, I HAVE IT BROKE DOWN AS THIS IS YOUR SALARY.

AND THEN I HAVE A COLUMN FOR AUTO ALLOWANCE COMPARED WITH SOME OTHER OFFICES.

WE, WE BURN UP OUR AUTO ALLOWANCE IS USED FOR YEAH.

IN OUR DAILY OPERATIONS.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO, TRYING TO JUSTIFY HOW THINGS FIT IN COMPARISON WITH OTHER OFFICES HERE.

SO, UH, WHAT PERCENT ARE YOU GONNA RECOMMEND FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS? WE ALREADY APPROVED 4% COLA FOR THE THE COLA.

FOR, UH, WE ALREADY APPROVED A COLA INCREASE OF 4% FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL.

OH, I DIDN'T REMEMBER HER HEARING.

IT WAS, WELL, I, IN THE NUMBERS THAT I PROVIDED INCLUDED ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE NUMBER FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AT 4% IS A HUNDRED.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO SPLIT THOSE UP.

AND WE WILL, BUT WE'LL, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE TOTAL COST WAS THAT SHE LAID IT OUT HERE FOR US.

TOTAL FOR JUST THE, THE, IT WAS A TOTAL COST.

MY MOTION WAS FOR 4% ACROSS THE BOARD UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY REVISIT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS, AND COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS POINTED THIS OUT BEFORE.

I THINK IT, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MERIT TO IT.

I THINK FOUR PERCENT'S A GREAT STARTING POINT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME TIERS OR SOME LEVELS THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY DO AS WELL THAT MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE TO LOOK AT.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING SPECIFICALLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN YOUR, IN YOUR COMMENT? YEAH.

FRANKLY, I WOULD.

UH, I I I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME ON THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I WISH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO LAST.

UM, WELL WE GOTTA GET IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DATE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

NO, IT DOES NOT.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT 4%.

I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.

THAT WE WERE, WELL, IT WAS JUST INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER.

OF COURSE THAT'S INCLUDING THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.

OF THE NUMBER I DIDN'T CATCH.

TOTAL COST OF ELECTED OFFICIALS IS 1 22 3

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SO EVEN THOUGH THAT'S SEPARATED OUT YEAH, I GOT IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT LOOK ON YOUR FACE.

JUST ANTICIPATION.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEXT? I DON'T KNOW.

AGAIN, I MEAN, IF WE

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WANNA TAKE A RECESS AND GO BACK HERE AND LOOK AT SOME THINGS, I MEAN, I HAVE A SPREADSHEET SPECIFIC FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE CAN, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? LET'S TAKE A, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE, UH, RECESS.

UH, AND PROMPTLY BE BACK AT, I'LL CALL THE ORDER AT 2 10, 2 23.

UM, ON THE ELECTED

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OFFICIAL SALARIES, I WANT A COUPLE THINGS HERE.

THIS IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, THIS SHEET THAT, EXCUSE ME, THIS CHART THAT WAS GIVEN OUT.

UH, THERE'S CERTAIN POSITIONS AND JUST LOOKING AT THIS IS JUST TO KINDA KEEP THIS IN, IN A PERSPECTIVE, BUT YET TO THE POINTS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, A COUNTY ATTORNEY OR AUDITOR OR SHERIFF OR THESE ARE VERY SPECIALIZED POSITIONS.

AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE, IT'S HARD TO HAVE PARODY OR LOOKING AT THESE FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHO, YOU KNOW, YOU BRING IN PEOPLE THAT, TO HAVE A PROFESSIONALIZED STAFF, THE SOS ARE GONNA BE COMMENSURATE WITH THAT PROFESSION.

OR WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE AN ATTORNEY, WHETHER IT BE A-C-P-A-B, A SEASONED LAW ENFORCEMENT SHERIFF IS WHAT WE HAVE AND BLESSED TO HAVE HERE WITH THIS.

UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A, A HARD COMPARISON TO A AND AGAIN, JUST KEEPING IN MIND TOO, AS A ELECTED OFFICIAL, UM, WHICH SOME OF THOSE ARE EXCEPT FOR THE AUDITOR, BUT WE PUT OURSELVES IN THIS POSITION.

UH, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE.

AND BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT, I MEAN, HOW YOU WEIGH THAT IN COMPARISON, BUT YET I, I'M REALLY LIKE, IF YOU COMPARE IT TO A COUNTY ATTORNEY OR AUDITOR THAT WENT TO COLLEGE FOR A LONG TIME OR FOR A VERY SPECIALIZED FIELD, THOSE ARE HARD.

AND, AND LOOKING AT THESE, THERE'S A WIDE GAP.

AND I'D SAY 90% OF THESE, OR 80% OF THESE FROM WHAT A, A, UH, COUNTY JUDGE OR COMMISSIONER MAKES, THOSE ARE GONNA BE HARD COMPARISONS.

BUT SOME OF THE OTHERS, AND LOOKING AND KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, UH, THE POINT'S WELL TAKEN, YOU KNOW, OF WHO MAKES, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO COMPARE THESE, UH, I'M TO ASK JUST TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT YET WITH EXEMPTION OF SOME OF THESE WERE VERY PROFESSIONALIZED AND, AND, AND PROFESSIONS THAT HAVE, HAVE TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GO TO SCHOOL FOR HAVING A CAREER.

LIKE WHAT WE'RE FORTUNATE WITH THE SHERIFF, JUST, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU FINALIZE THIS OR MAKE THIS DECISION.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A 4% COMMISSIONER HOLT IS WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO ON HIM.

I MADE THE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD WITHOUT CLARIFICATION ON WHO IT WOULD APPLY TO ACROSS THE BOARD.

CORRECT.

THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW TO COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S POINT, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR, AND I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO GO BACK AND AMEND MY MOTION, BUT I, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE HANDLED NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES FIRST, AND THEN WE HANDLED ELECTED EMPLOYEES.

WE DID FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS SEPARATELY.

WE DID SO WELL.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.

BUT YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR FOR THE POSTING AND ANYBODY WATCHING AND IT'S CLEAR OUT.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CLARIFY AT ALL.

SO JUDGE, IF WE CALL A SPADE A SPADE, IF, AS I LOOK AT THIS PARKER COUNTY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERHAPS THE AUDITOR POSITION, IT APPEARS THAT ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL IS EITHER THE HIGHEST OR PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO THE HIGHEST OF THIS SELECTION OF COUNTIES.

SO I DON'T DEF I DON'T WANNA WALK BACK WHAT I SAID WHERE MY HEAD WAS AT WAS ON, WELL, THE TYPICAL EMPLOYEE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S THE CORRECT ITEM.

NOW, I DIDN'T CLARIFY THAT.

SO E YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA VOTE ON E RIGHT NOW.

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NOW GRANTED, I THINK PARKER COUNTY HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHALLENGES THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES DON'T HAVE GIVEN OUR GROWTH RATE.

AND GIVEN HOW MUCH OF THAT GROWTH IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, I THINK THAT IMPOSES A SPECIAL BURDEN ON US.

BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DEFINITELY ON THE HIGH END.

WELL, HOW'D WE COME UP WITH THESE PARTICULAR COUNTIES? I JUST SORTED THE SURVEY.

, I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE THING.

YEAH, IT'S A WHOLE SALARY SURVEY, BUT YOU CAN SORT IT BY LIKE POPULATION, BUDGET SIZE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SOME OF 'EM ARE, ARE CLOSE TO OUR, SOME OF 'EM HAVE HIGHER, SOME ARE LOWER.

IT, IT, IT PROVIDES YOU A RANGE COMMISSIONER.

MY MY POINT IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RANGE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE AUDITOR AND PERHAPS WITH MAYBE THE SHERIFF, IT LOOKS LIKE EACH OF THESE POSITIONS, PARKER COUNTY'S DEFINITELY ON THE HIGHER END, WELL, ON, ON THESE PARTICULAR COUNTIES.

BUT YOU GET 20 MORE COUNTIES AND WITH THE SAME SHEEP, IT'LL PROBABLY DIFFERENT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INTENT TO PICK OUT THE ONES THAT, THAT, UH, MAKE OR THAT ARE MAKING US THE HIGHEST.

THEY'RE MAKING US ONE OF THE HIGHEST.

BUT I, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN A LOT OF THESE OFFICES AND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND, UH, WHAT THEIR, UH, WHAT THEIR JOB ENTAILS.

AND, UH, SO BRIAN, I I I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN FEEL LIKE I GET PAID ABOUT HALF ENOUGH FOR WHAT THE THINGS ARE THAT WE, WE SIT HERE IN THESE SESSIONS JUST, JUST AS A JOKE, HOWEVER, UH, THE, UH, NUMBERS ARE HERE, BUT THESE ARE POSSIBLY, I'M, I'M READING THAT DEAL.

THIS IS THE 2022 COUNTY BUDGETS THAT THESE ARE DERIVED FROM.

BUT IT'S THE LATEST DATA THAT YOU HAVE.

THEY ONLY DO IT EVERY 22 YEARS.

AND EXCEPT FOR OURS, OURS IS NOT.

OURS ARE UP TO DATE.

OURS IS NOT 2022.

NO, OURS ARE UP TO DATE.

SO, SO IT'S 2022 BUDGETS.

SO THAT'S, WE'RE COMING UP ON THREE YEARS AGO AS WE MOVE INTO A 2025 BUDGET.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE P VERSION THAT THEY HAVE, AND WE ALREADY KNEW .

WE ALREADY KNEW ALL THE COUNTIES SHOULD HAVE ANSWERED IT FOR THEIR, HMM.

SO THIS SHOULD BE 24.

IT SAYS THAT SILVERS BY OFFICE 2024 WITH 2022 COUNTY BUDGETS AND 2023 POPULATION ESTIMATES.

SO THAT'S GOING ON THREE YEARS AGO FOR SOME OF THESE.

I'M JUST SAYING.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT PLAY INTO THIS.

A LOT OF THOSE BIGGER COUNTIES, THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF CITIES.

THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR, THE COUNTY ROAD MILES THAT WE HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE.

THEY DON'T HAVE DEPARTMENTS PLAYING DUAL ROLES.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY.

EXACTLY.

AND I, THERE'S SPEC SPECIAL THINGS IN ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE AS WELL.

WITH THAT SAID, I I, WE PASSED A MOTION FOR 4% EARLIER.

I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT FOR BOTH.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

NON-ELECTED AND ELECTED.

SO YEAH, I WOULD ASSUME IT'S BOTH.

WELL, OKAY.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY ARE THAT THE RAISES THAT WERE HANDED OUT ALREADY, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING OUT ON TOP OF THEM? I'LL PROVIDE A LIST FOR THE NEXT COURT OF ALL OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED SO FAR FOR JUST AN ADDITIONAL RAISE.

AND THEN Y'ALL CAN MAKE THAT DECISION LATER ON IF YOU WANNA DO A COLA ON TOP OF THAT OR HOLD THEM.

I'LL PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

I'LL PUT THE PERCENTAGE.

RAISE ALL OF IT ON THERE SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

DO WE NEED, SO, SO WE AMEND, SIR.

SO WOULD WE NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT? WELL, HIS MOTION MOTION, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE.

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AND I MADE THE MOTION BEFORE, I THINK WE DID A LOT OF THESE.

THAT WAS, THAT MOTION WOULD'VE BEEN APPLICABLE TO THE SALARIES AS THEY THEN STOOD.

THAT MOTION WAS ON NON-ELECTIVE.

'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN, SAY IT AGAIN.

THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE TOO.

IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE PUT A COLA ON YOUR CURRENT SALARY AND THEN TOOK YOU, WELL, HANG ON TO THIS.

THE, WILL YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? THE, THE COLA 4%, WE WERE ON THE ITEM OF NON-ELECTED.

SO THAT WAS ALL WENT THROUGH.

SO WE COULD ON ELECTIVE NOW JUST SAY 4% FOR THAT.

ALSO IN THAT CASE, WOULDN'T THAT BE THE SAME THING? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T CLARIFY IT, WE WERE ON NON-ELECTED.

SO THAT, THAT'S THROUGH ME.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I KNEW WE WERE ON NINE.

BUT I DID SAY THE NUMBERS INCLUDED ELECTED.

THE NUMBERS THAT I, I WAS, THAT WENT OVER MY HEAD.

THERE WERE THE NUMBERS I WERE LOOKING AT INCLUDED ELECTED AND NON-ELECTED.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

BUT I THINK JUST FOR CLARITY, A MOTION FOR 4% FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO MOVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND CLARIFYING THE MOTION IS 4% FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, CORRECT? YES.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM TWO ONE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND 50 AND PRECINCTS FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FROM THAT MOTION, THIS WILL, UM, AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE'S OFFICE TO SEND OUT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL LETTERS THAT WILL GO TO EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL, LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR STATED SALARY FOR FISCAL 25 WILL BE, AS WELL AS YOUR INCREASE IN LONGEVITY AND INCREASE TO AN AUTO ALLOWANCE.

UM, WHICH CAN START THE CALENDAR FOR A GRIEVANCE PROCESS IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS, WANTS TO DO THAT, CYNTHIA.

BACK TO THE ITEM NUMBER TWO, JUDGE.

AND JUST ON ANOTHER NOTE OF ELECTED, SO LAST YEAR COURT DID APPROVE A SUPPLEMENT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.

UM, HE'S A STATE EMPLOYEE, BUT THE COUNTY DOES PAY HIM A SUPPLEMENT.

AND THE REQUEST WAS FOR IT TO MATCH HIS TOTAL SALARY TO, UH, OR MAKE HIS SUPPLEMENT ALONG WITH HIS STATE SALARY MATCH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SALARY.

JUST BEING CLEAR THAT THAT WILL INCREASE AS WELL.

THAT SURE.

YEP.

OH, CCL.

UM, NO, TWO BUT NO CCL TWO'S A MAX.

SO THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE TO CCL TWO.

THEY'RE NOT ABOVE RIGHT.

SINCE THE CCL JUDGES ARE SET BY STATUTE, BUT IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE STATUTE, HISTORICALLY THE COLA HAS ALWAYS BEEN GIVEN TO THE CCL JUDGES AS WELL.

WE HAVE ONE THAT'S A MAX AND ONE THAT IS NOT.

SO UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED, WE'LL PUT THE COLA ON THE CCL ONE JUDGE AS WELL.

[II.1. Discuss/Approve Road & Bridge Fund 50 and Precinct Funds 1-4 for Budget FY2024-2025. (Judge Deen)]

UM, THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TODAY, ROAD AND BRIDGE? NO, WE DON'T.

AND, AND, WELL, THE REASON I WANNA SAY IS I WANT TO, WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TODAY, AGAIN, REGROUP AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.

BECAUSE, UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE BEEN, UH, TAKING MONIES FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND TRANSFERRING THEM OVER TO ROAD AND BRIDGE AND WE WANTED, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I THINK I DO.

AND UH, SO I WANT TO SEE WHAT ROOM THERE MIGHT BE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT, WITHOUT CREATING HARM BACK TO GENERAL.

IS THAT FAIR, COMMISSIONER? WELL, I NEED SOME, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION SO I CAN GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THE AUDITOR, UH, THAT SHE CAN BRING BACK TO US AND WE CAN VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

ANYWAY, MY MOTION IS THAT WE SPLIT THE FORMULA FOUR WAYS EQUALLY.

CAN YOU GET THAT INFORMATION? I CAN.

UM, THE ONE THING I'LL SAY, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE CODE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK IT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.

ONE OF THE THINGS ON IT WAS, UM, LEMME, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

YOU HAD A MOTION, YOU WITHDREW IT.

DID YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? NO.

NO.

BEFORE REALLY GOING FORWARD.

ANY FURTHER WE NEED IT.

NO, HE SAID THAT AND I DID THE MATH, SO I SECOND THAT.

OH, I DIDN'T, I DON'T SEE YOUR SECOND.

DID YOU SAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY.

YOU'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

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WE HAVE A MOTION.

WELL, IT CAN'T BE ARBITRARY.

THERE WAS A COURT CASE AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE SAYS BASICALLY, UM, THOUGH THE EXPENSES GENERATED FROM THE REVENUE OF A ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX SHOULD CLOSE OR BE SIMILAR TO THE EXPENSES OF IT SHOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE REVENUE GENERATION, WHICH AGAIN WOULD MEAN BY THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR A PRECINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL HAVE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT.

I CAN GIVE YOU WHATEVER NUMBERS.

CAN I, THAT YOU WOULD, WHAT YOUR MOTION IS REQUEST THAT WE SPLIT THE FORMULA, THE FORMULA FOR THE FOUR PRECINCTS BE SPLIT FOUR WAYS EQUALLY.

I VOTE THIS EVERY YOUR, YOUR MO THERE WAS A MOTION A SECOND.

DID Y'ALL WITHDRAW OR ARE YOU STILL ON THERE? NO, BECAUSE MY SCREEN'S CLEARED.

UM, OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE MOTION TO SECOND.

SO REALLY RATHER THAN A MOTION, YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR INFORMATION FROM THE AUDITOR, RIGHT? B US THE, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.

WELL, I'D LIKE FOR IT TO, TO BE THAT WAY.

I MEAN, I, I CAN MAKE, OH, SO YOU'RE MOTIONING FOUR THAT WE SPLIT IT FOUR WAYS AND THEN YOU BRING US THE INFORMATION AND WE CAN CHANGE IT IF, RIGHT.

ISN'T THAT WHAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME? WE CAN CHANGE IT.

I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU'RE REQUESTING.

YES, I'LL PROVIDE THAT.

WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

YOU'VE SPLIT IT UP AND YES, OUTTA THIS I CAN BRING THAT INFORMATION.

I JUST, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A WISH LIST, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WHERE IT'S SPLIT UP FOUR WAYS.

? GOD, THIS IS GETTING WORSE.

NOT THAT IT'S GONNA STAY THAT WAY, BUT WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL IS A VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

BUT AGAIN, IF WE DON'T DO THAT TODAY, WE CAN DO IT.

I BELIEVE THERE'S TRYING TO SCHEDULE A COURT FOR THE FIFTH, IS THAT CORRECT? THE FIFTH.

AND SO THEN IF WE DON'T DO IT TODAY, THERE WOULD BE A VOTE ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, WELL, THAT'S NOT SETTING THE ACTUAL TAX RATE THAN SETTING A PROPOSED TAX RATE.

CORRECT.

THAT IT CAN BE NO MORE THAN, NO GREATER THAN, BUT CAN BE LESS THAN IT CAN GO DOWN.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SO AGAIN, JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT ALSO THE ROADING BRIDGE TAX, YOU KNOW, YOU OF, I'VE GIVEN YOU, UM, THE INFORMATION WHERE IF YOU ARE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE ON ROAD AND BRIDGE, WHAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE IT GENERATES AND THEN HOW IT IMPACTS BOTH THE TAX RATE AND A AVERAGE HOME BUYER, IT'LL VARY.

THAT OBVIOUSLY INCREASES YOUR ALLOCATION IF YOU ADJUST THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN I CAN ALSO BRING YOU, UM, I BELIEVE EACH PRECINCT IN ADDITION TO DISCRETIONARY, UM, BOND FUNDS ALSO HAVE, UM, FUNDS FROM THE PASS THROUGH FROM THE RICK WILLIAMSON MEMORIAL PASS THROUGH FUNDS OF 1,750,000 AS WELL.

SO, SO BEFORE WE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROPRIATED TO PROJECTS, SO JUST, OKAY, WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THIS.

WE HAD A REQUEST INITIALLY FROM A COMMISSIONER THAT WE KIND OF TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION AND, AND, AND GO BY THAT.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION NOW TO EQUALLY SPLIT THESE.

UM, AND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASES.

I, I LOVE THE, THE POSITION OF THE COUNTY JUDGE ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBATE HERE AND I'M Y'ALL VOTING ON IN MY PROBATE COURT, YOU KNOW, OR GUARDIANSHIP COURT AND I DON'T HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR, FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND WE'VE WORKED ALWAYS SEEM TO TRY TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S DISPARITIES IN THE, AND AS WE REDISTRICTED, THAT MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT.

AND UM, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT I THINK YOU, UH, BUT I THINK WITH, UH, AND WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT ATTACHED TO IT.

THIS, THIS TIME AROUND.

I'M MAYBE WRONG WITH THAT, WITH WHAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT, BUT, UH, TO, TO HELP WITH THESE COMMISSIONERS AND, AND THE NEEDS BECAUSE THESE ROADS ARE NO LONGER THE SAME ROADS WE DROVE ON EVEN A YEAR AGO.

AND SO THE SAFETY OF THESE ROADS ARE PARAMOUNT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS CRITICAL.

MY ROLE HERE AS I SEE, IS TO HAVE Y'ALL WORK TOGETHER TO COME TO A GOOD WORKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU THAT, UH, IS EQUITABLE, THAT, THAT MEETS YOUR NEEDS IN YOUR RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS WITH THE GROWTH THAT YOU HAVE AND THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.

UM, AND WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT HAS ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION AND WE HAVE A, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS.

UM, BEFORE I THINK WE GO TO A VOTE ON THIS, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT AND I, AND I'M GONNA PROBABLY TICK OFF HALF OF YOU AND TICK OFF.

YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

I'VE, I'VE, I'VE TICKED OFF ONE SIDE AND I'VE TICKED OFF THE OTHER.

SO, SO LET'S, LET'S VOTE, LET'S, LET'S LET, LET ME SUBMIT THIS TO YOU.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, YOU JUST HEAR ME, HEAR ME OUT ON THIS, THAT, IS THIS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE,

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OKAY, SO I, I THINK, THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS ASKED IS JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? SURE.

WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON THIS, AND I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM YOUR MOTION.

I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO BE PREPARED FOR THIS AND, AND BE WHERE YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT FOR 16 YEARS I'VE BEEN PREPARED TO, TO SPLIT IT FOUR WAYS AND I DON'T DISAGREE.

YOUR ROADS ARE AWFUL.

AND, AND, AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU .

I TOTALLY AGREE, JUDGE.

I THINK YOU'RE DIGGING YOURSELF DEEPER THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TO THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR EXTENSION WILL PROBABLY TAKE YOU, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THIS HAS TO BE, THIS HAS TO BE SAID THOUGH.

CAN WE GO IN AND VOTE? IT HAS NO, IT HAS TO, HOLD ON.

I'M STILL IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THIS.

THIS HAS TO BE SAID BECAUSE I THINK THE ROLE OF THE JUDGE IS, IS TO, TO, TO GET YOU GUYS TO, IN THIS RESPECTIVE ISSUE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME TO A, A SITUATION.

BECAUSE WHAT I SEE HERE POTENTIALLY IS A TWO, TWO OR A THREE ONE VOTE.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS WHERE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER BEFORE WE MAKE THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO A VOTE, WE'RE GONNA GO TO A VOTE.

I'M JUST SUBMITTING THAT TO YOU, THAT IT DOESN'T KILL US TO WAIT, UH, TO, TO DO THIS AND GET MORE INFORMATION IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN GET, UH, TO MAKE THAT INFORMED VOTE.

I'VE BEEN HERE 16 YEARS, OKAY? I DON'T NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION.

OKAY? ALRIGHT.

I, I SAID MY PIECE AND I'M SORRY I HAVE TO SO LONG, PLEASE LET US VOTE.

I'VE GOT SOME REAL QUICK NUMBERS FOR US.

SO IF WE TAKE IT FOUR WAYS AND SPLIT IT UP FOUR WAYS, THAT MEANS THAT PRECINCT ONE WILL GET ABOUT $14,750 PER MILE.