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[Call to Order]
GOOD MORNING.I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
UM, WAS TAKING A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT IS ON HIS WAY.
I WAS HOPING TO TRY TO WAIT ENOUGH TO GET HIM HERE, BUT HE SHOULD BE WALKING ANY SECOND.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
UH, ON OPEN THE MEETING FOR THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET AGENDA, UH, FOR THIS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2024 AT 9:00 AM LET THE RECORD SHOW WE DO HAVE A, A QUORUM, UH, WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE PRESENT.
UH, WE WILL MOVE TO THE AGENDA ITEMS.
[I.A. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]
UH, ITEM ONE UNDER DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR THE 24 25 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, UH, GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES.UH, BRIANNA, SO I HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL A SUMMARY, UM, OF APPROVED CHANGES OR CHANGES FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS I'VE BEEN DOING.
AND SO I EMAILED THIS TO YOU ALL LAST WEEK.
SO THIS IS, THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES, UM, FROM THAT, BUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD'VE CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED THIS.
AND SO AGAIN, IT'S BROKEN OUT ON ANY SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.
SO SO FAR THERE'S BEEN, UM, 2.4 MILLION, UM, APPROVALS AND THEN OPERATING EXPENSES.
ANY CHANGES IN THOSE ITEMS? I'VE ADDED DESCRIPTIONS AS TO WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE AMOUNT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 1.5 MILLION IN CAP, NON CAP IT, UM, 334,000 IN NEW CAP, NON CAP FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND THEN ROLLOVERS THAT WE HAVE FROM, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'LL NEED TO REAPPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO THAT MAKES A TOTAL ADJUSTMENTS OF 5.7 MILLION FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND SO AT THE, AT A NO NEW REVENUE RATE, TAX RATE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE 6.8 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FROM WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED THUS FAR.
I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE, WHICH HAS THE TAX RATES AND STUFF ON IT.
AND, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THERE FOR M AND O, IT PROJECTS US TO BE $2.15 MILLION LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
CAN OF EXPLAIN THAT TO ANYBODY, MIGHT BE LISTED THERE.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
SO AT, AGAIN, AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THAT IS THE RATE THAT, UM, GENERATES THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS THE YEAR BEFORE.
BUT ON OUR M AND O THAT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE.
SO YOUR TOTAL RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS YOUR M AND O AND THEN YOUR DEBT SERVICE.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO IS HOW, WHAT IS OUR DEBT SERVICE DOING? AND SO, UM, WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN THE DEBT SERVICE.
SO BACK RIGHT IN THE FALL THERE WAS, UH, AN ELECTION FOR A BOND.
THAT BOND PASSED, AND THEN WE'VE DRAWN DOWN PART OF THOSE FUNDS.
SO IN NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST INTEREST PAYMENT ON THOSE BONDS.
SO THE REASON WHY THERE'S A DECREASE IN THE M AND O IF YOU STAYED AT THAT SAME RATE, IS BASICALLY YOUR GENERAL FUND IS NOW PAYING FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT INCREASE IN THE DEBT SERVICE.
UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REALLY TO GENERATE FOR YOUR M AND O THE SAME AMOUNT YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THAT TAX RATE.
BUT WHAT YOU WOULD REALLY BE INCREASING IS THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THAT TAX RATE.
SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T THE DEBT SERVICE STAND BY ITSELF OVER HERE? THAT IS NOT HOW THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WHEN WE DO THAT CALCULATION, IT INCLUDES BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. BUT YES, WHEN YOU GET TO YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL YOUR ADJUSTMENTS TO GET TO YOUR VOTER APPROVAL, YOUR DEBT IS ADDED ON THE BACKEND.
IT'S BASICALLY YOU ADJUST FOR THAT INCREASE IN DEBT SO YOU'RE ABLE TO PAY THAT VOTER APPROVED DEBT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S GENERATING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE, BUT WHAT IT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ON THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS WHAT YOUR DEBT SERVICE IS.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, IF YOU ADDED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NET THE PROJECTIONS FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE AND YOUR M AND O, IT'S ACTUALLY GENERATES, RIGHT? UM, MORE A LITTLE BIT FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE GENERAL FUND DOESN'T GET ANY BENEFIT BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY PAYING FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE.
SO YOU WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THE TAX RATE TO THEN PAY FOR THAT DEBT WITHOUT GENERAL FUND HAVING TO TAKE A HIT.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THE DEBT RATE DEBT OF THE INS DEBT SERVICE RATE TECHNICALLY SHOULD BE INCREASING BECAUSE IT WAS OVER APPROVAL.
AND IF IT WAS INCREASED, UM, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT IF WE INCREASED THAT THE AMOUNT TO RAISE THAT OTHER, UH, 2.15 MILLION
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AND THEN THAT WOULD FREE BACK UP THE M AND O LIKE IT SHOULD BE.AND SO THEN RATHER THAN TAKING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF OUT OF FUND BALANCE, THEN WE ARE DOING WHAT WAS VOTER APPROVED.
AND THAT IS INCREASING THE INS RATE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ADDITIONAL PAYMENT OF 2.15 THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THIS YEAR.
RIGHT? SO IN ALL THE YEARS WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY DID ADOPT A NO NEW REVENUE RATES MM-HMM.
BASICALLY IT WAS TAKING YOUR M AND O TO HELP PAY FOR THAT.
SO NOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LARGE INCREASE.
SO YES, IF YOU SHOULD ADJUST YOUR DEBT RATE, YOU HAVE TO ADJUST YOUR DEBT RATE ACCORDINGLY TO PAY THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.
BUT IF YOU DON'T ADJUST YOUR RATE TO YOUR OVERALL RATE TO REFLECT THAT, TO COVER IT, THEN BASICALLY YOUR M AND O IS EATING THAT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE INCREASING RIGHT.
GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR YOUR M AND O, YOU'RE JUST ADJUSTING IT TO, YOU'RE REALLY ADJUSTING YOUR DEBT RATE.
BUT IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN YES, IT'S BASICALLY YOUR GENERAL FUND IS EATING THAT ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE TO COVER THOSE REQUIRED PAYMENTS.
SO TO COVER THAT ADDITIONAL 2.15 IN, IN, UH, INS RATE, WE WOULD HAVE TO, WHAT WOULD THAT TAKE? A PENNY? ONE PENNY OR TWO PENNIES.
THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS 'CAUSE THIS WAS, THIS WAS VOTER APPROVED.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT INCREASING.
THIS WAS A VOTER APPROVED, UH, BOND THAT WE PASSED THAT SAYS WE WANT TO, WE WANNA SPEND THIS ADDITIONAL $80 MILLION.
AND, YOU KNOW, DURING ALL OF THE, UM, ADVERTISING OF THE BOND AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE ONE BIG THING, YOU KNOW, WE HAD GEORGE WILLIFORD AND, UM, CHRIS BOSCO HAD THAT IS REALLY HOW, HOW IS IT GOING TO IMPACT YOUR TAX RATE, RIGHT? AND SO THEN THAT WAY TAXPAYERS KNOW HOW, WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT AS AN INCREASE FOR THEIR TAXES FOR THAT BOND.
SO YES, AT THIS POINT NOW THAT WE'VE DRAWN DOWN IT'S TIME TO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THAT DEBT SERVICE.
AND SO WITH THAT COMES AN ADJUSTMENT, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE TO THEN PAY FOR THAT VOTER APPROVED PAYMENTS.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS A A, A HIGH FIRST PAYMENT.
THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE COMING TO SEE US FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AND I WANNA SAY THIS YEAR, AND I CAN LOOK IN MY BOOK, UM, I WANNA SAY THIS YEAR IS MAYBE JUST INTEREST ONLY.
AND THEN A PORTION OF IT THAT THAT'S NOT EVEN REFLECTED IN THE DEBT RATE IS, UM, ON OUR CLOSING, WE HAD SOME CAPITALIZED INTEREST THAT IS SITTING IN OUR DEBT SERVICE.
AND ONE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND, I THINK WE ARE USING 750,000 OF DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S ALSO DECREASING THAT RATE A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WHEN YOU JUST CALCULATE IT ON ITS OWN.
THE REASON I'M POINTING THAT OUT IS BECAUSE WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'LL HAVE THAT FROM NOW ON AND THAT IS VOTER APPROVED.
THAT IS NOT, THAT IS NOT US RAISING SOMEBODY'S TAXES OR TAX RATE HERE THAT IS, WAS APPROVED BY THE BOND ELECTION THAT WE HAD TO, UH, TO GENERATE THAT MONEY.
AND WE, WE LOOKING AT 6.823 AT A FUND BALANCE TODAY TO FUND WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DIGGING A HOLE, RIGHT? SO WE, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE TODAY.
AND ONE THING THAT I HAVE ON HERE, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY HELPFUL IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TAX RATE IMPACT, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO A TAXPAYER? SO I HAVE THE PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, COLUMN THERE.
AND SO YOU COULD SEE PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, IT'S ABOUT, UM, LIKE OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
AGAIN, TO COVER THAT DEBT, IT'S $10 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR FOR YOUR AVERAGE TAXABLE HOMESTEAD, WHICH IS 338,000 IS $34 ANNUALLY.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE IS THE INCREMENTAL AT EACH RATE, HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD BE FOR YOUR AVERAGE, UM, HOMESTEAD OR AGAIN PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND? WELL, I'LL STATE IT AGAIN SO THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WAS VOTER APPROVED IN THAT LAST TRANSPORTATION BOND ELECTION THAT WE HAD.
KEN, JUST ONE THING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 6.8 IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE 2.1? THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 2.1? IT DOES, IT, IT DOES INCLUDE THE 2.10, THE DECREASE? YES.
WE'RE TOTAL, YES, THAT'S TOTAL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I SHOW AT THE BOTTOM IS BASICALLY ALL OF THIS IS THE USE OF FUND BALANCE IS AT A NO NEW REVENUE RATE RIGHT NOW.
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AS YOU INCREMENTALLY INCREASE THAT, IT'LL DECREASE THE OVERALL NEED FROM FUND BALANCE AND GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THAT.AND BRIANNA, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE? I MEAN THAT'S ATTACHED OR THE ON, ON THE FUND BALANCE WHAT'S AVAILABLE OR WHAT'S ATTACHED TO IT OR WHAT, WHAT THE BALANCE OF THAT IS? SO WE ENDED FY 23 WITH THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF 37 MILLION.
UM, AGAIN, I DO A PROJECTION, KIND OF GIVE THE SAME SPIEL OF IT IS IT IS PROJECTION, IT VARIES EVEN WHEN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT ON THE PROJECTION THAT I DID BACK IN JULY, WHICH WAS BASICALLY BASED ON JUNE'S NUMBER, SO A QUARTER LEFT WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 2.7 MILLION.
IN ADDITION TO THE 37, CORRECT? YES.
SO IT'D MAKE IT ABOUT 30, 39 MILLION.
I WAS ACTUALLY PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO PASS OUT TO THE COURT.
YOU PASSED THIS OUT? YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE IT.
OH, THIS IS THE CRAYON VERSION.
I I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONER WALMAN GOT A COPY AND IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE YOU GOT A COPY.
COMMISSIONERS, I'M NOT TRYING TO INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE AT ALL, BUT IF YOU'RE ANYTHING LIKE ME, AT SOME POINT, ALL OF THIS BECOMES PRETTY OVERWHELMING.
AND SO WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF I PUT TOGETHER A VERY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE SOME MATH MISTAKES ON HERE.
SO BRIANNA, KIM AND BECKY, PLEASE HELP ME OUT.
BUT TO ME, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS WE HAVE A GENERAL, OR WE HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET OF 74 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 6.3 MILLION.
IF WE APPROVED EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 10.6 MILLION.
AND I'VE GOT THAT BREAKDOWN DOWN BELOW.
WE HAVE AN EXPECTED REVENUE OF SOMEWHERE AROUND 74 MILLION.
WE HAVE A CURRENT FUND BALANCE, AS BRIANNA SAID, OF 37 MILLION.
WE'RE GONNA ROLL OVER ABOUT 2.7 MILLION FROM THE CURRENT YEAR, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE APPROVE EVERYTHING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BORROW $17 MILLION FROM OUR FUND BALANCE TO FUND THE BUDGET.
THAT WOULD LEAVE OUR FUND BALANCE SOMEWHERE AROUND 23 MILLION.
AND THAT WOULD REDUCE OUR FUND BALANCE FROM WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW BY 40%.
AND A LOT OF THESE EXPENDITURES ARE RECURRING EXPENDITURES, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
THEY'RE NOT ONE TIME EXPENDITURES, RIGHT? YEP.
BEFORE CONSIDERING THE NEXT YEAR THE INCREASES.
SO ONE OF THEM BEING THE GEL, LOOKING AT THESE, THE, THE TOTAL UNAPPROVED EXPENDITURES RIGHT NOW IS 10.6 MILLION.
THAT 10.6, ABOUT 3 MILLION OF IT IS IN SALARY.
THE JAIL INCREASE IS 800,000 ABOVE THE 4 MILLION THAT WAS ALREADY BUILT IN.
IT RELATED EXPENSES OF 1.7 MILLION AND THEN NEW FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE CAP, NON CAP OF 577,000.
IT'S A GOOD WAY OF EXPLAINING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD THE ALL THE REQUESTS.
OH, I, TO ME, I I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
THERE'S, THERE'S THREE TOOLS IN OUR TOOL BELT.
WE SAY NO, WE RAISE TAXES, WE BORROW FROM FUND BALANCE.
THOSE ARE OUR ONLY THREE OPTIONS.
IF WE SAY YES TO EVERYTHING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EITHER RAISE TAXES A LOT OR BORROW 17 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE THAT'S ABOVE THE 1.1 THAT WE'RE ALREADY PROJECTING TO USE FROM FUND BALANCE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT FUND BALANCE IS FAR.
WELL, BUT I WANT TO ADD TO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
AND THE FUND BALANCE WE HAVE IS, UH, WELL ABOVE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ADOPTED A, A, A SET REQUIREMENT FOR OUR FUND BALANCE YET, WHICH WE NEED TO DO THAT, UM, EXPEND.
SO AGAIN, AS OUR BUDGET RISES, SO DOES OUR MINIMUM SO WELL, AND AGAIN, AT, AT THE RATE AT WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW.
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RATHER THAN SETTING IN THE BANK AND DRAWING INTEREST ON IT, I THINK IT, I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD USE OF THAT, THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT WAS NOT SPENT ENROLLED INTO FUND BALANCE.AND I THINK IT, IT'S A SUSTAINABLE FOR YEAR OVER YEAR, PROBABLY NOT.
BUT WE DID RAISE TAXES LAST YEAR.
UH, WEATHERFORD HAS ADOPTED A NO NEW REVENUE, I THINK.
AND WE TRY TO, WE ALWAYS TRY TO SET A PRECEDENT AND, AND, AND BEING A CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND TRYING TO MANAGE AND BE CONSERVATIVE WITH THE FUNDS AS BEST WE CAN.
WE KNOW WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF GROWTH AND THE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE AHEAD OF US AND THAT OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE UNAPPROVED ITEMS. BUT THAT FUND BALANCE IS THERE FOR A REASON.
AND I THINK IT'S, AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S POCKETS AND, AND GET MORE MONEY WITH THE INSTALLATION OF PROPERTY VALUES, I THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, SAYING NO, I MEAN IT, THAT THERE'S TIMES YOU, YOU SAY NO, AND THERE'S TIMES YOU SAY YES.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE, WHAT THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE ARE.
AND I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DONE AN ADEQUATE JOB OR A REALLY A GOOD JOB IN GIVING AND, AND LISTENING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE NEEDS OF THIS COUNTY IS.
BUT THAT FUND BALANCE IS THERE FOR A REASON.
I THINK IT, I THINK IT SHOULD REALLY BE A TOOL USED HERE, UH, TO HELP AND UNDERSTAND.
UM, NOT EVERYBODY HAS IT EASY.
I MEAN, IT'S WITH THE PROPERTY VALUES, THE WAY THEY'RE ESCALATING AND, AND, AND THAT'S NOT US.
WE'RE NOT RAISING OUR TAXES LIKE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHERS POSSIBLY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE CAN DO TO US TO HELP US AND IS TO KEEP, KEEP OUT OF THE POCKETS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
JUDGE, THE ONLY REASONABLE WAY I CAN SEE THAT WE CAN DO THAT IS, IS GO BACK AND UNDO ABOUT SIX POINT, UH, $8 MILLION OF, UH, THINGS WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
WELL, WITH THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
ANY OF THOSE THINGS ARE COMING BACK NEXT YEAR TOO.
AND WE'D, WE'D BE DIPPING IF WE TOOK THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF FUND BALANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR, THEN, THEN PRETTY SOON WE DON'T HAVE ANY, NO, NO WAY WE CAN DO THE NO NEW REVENUE JUDGE.
WELL, I'D, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE, PER THIS SHEET, AND AGAIN, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME MISTAKES ON HERE THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP.
AND THEN OF COURSE THIS SHEET'S GONNA EVOLVE AS WE SAY, YES AND NO, THOSE NUMBERS ARE GONNA CHANGE EVEN MORE.
BUT IF WE DO DROP DOWN TO THIS 22.9 MILLION, LIKE THAT FAR RIGHT NUMBER SAYS THAT WILL BE EXACTLY 25.2% OF THE TOTAL EXPENSES THERE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THAT 22 9 IS 25% DARN NEAR ON THE DOT OF OUR TOTAL EXPENSES OF 90,811,000, WHICH PUTS US AT THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD PER WHAT BRIANNA SAID OF OUR FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENTS.
AND I MEAN, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO IS JUST BOND RATING AGENCIES.
IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S A MAGIC NUMBER, 30% OF IT, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU HAVING BIG DROPS IN YOUR FUND BALANCE? WHAT IS IT FOR? HOW HAS YOUR BUDGET GROWN? I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT ALL OF IT ALONG THE TACTICAL VALUE, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBILITY ON ABLE TO COVER YOUR OPERATING.
THEY LOOK AT ALL THEIR, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY THOROUGH WHEN WE GO THROUGH IT.
SO I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S JUST THAT HERE'S YOUR SET NUMBER, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE HISTORY OF IT AND WHERE YOUR BUDGET'S AT AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTING.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO ITEM B SO WE CAN VOTE ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND WELL, I THINK BEFORE WE DO THAT, COMMISSIONER, AND I'LL DEFER THIS TO BRIANNA, THERE'S SOME THINGS AND DECISIONS WE NEED TO MAKE HERE AND GO THROUGH THIS.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE, WE, WE GO OVER ITEM B BEFORE WE DO THAT AND COVER SOME OF THESE OTHERS.
WOULD Y'ALL AGREE WITH THAT? OR WHAT'S Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, THE OTHER REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE LAYING OUT THERE, I I, I SUGGEST WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THEM PROBABLY, UH, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR, WELL, YEAH, WE GOT A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT, I, THE NUMBERS THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR 'EM, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROVE A SINGLE THING THAT IS BEING REQUESTED ABOVE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
RIGHT? LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TAKING $6.823 MILLION OUT OF FUND BALANCE AS OF THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE ALONG OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
WE NEED ITEM BI MEAN, YOU'RE PUSHING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING HERE.
AND, AND, UH, AS I SUGGEST, UH, LOOKING AT THE INS RATE THERE, THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED.
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HOWEVER YOU WANNA HANDLE, IT'S FINE WITH ME.I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT NEED WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
SO WE NEED TO VOTE THE TAX RATE AND GO ON.
WELL, I, I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE REQUESTS AND SEE, UH, WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE WE, THAT MAY CHANGE, THAT NUMBER MAY CHANGE.
WE'VE PRETTY WELL HEARD EVERYTHING.
UH, WE JUST, NOT, NOT THAT WE, NOT THAT WE, UH, ARE TELLING ANYBODY YOU DON'T NEED IT.
IT'S TELLING THEM WE CAN'T AFFORD IT TODAY.
LET'S MOVE DOWN THE, AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THESE AND YOU'RE CORRECT.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE.
UH, BUT, UH, TODAY IS THE DAY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
[I.C. Discuss/Vote on Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]
GO TO ITEM C BEFORE WE DO B, UH, COMMISSIONER, IF THAT, IF THAT IS OKAY WITH YOU.AND LET'S RUN THROUGH SOME OF THESE BEFORE WE COME BACK AND MAKE THAT DECISION.
UH, IS DISCUSSED BOTH ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES.
IS, UH, BECKY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD OR, WE PRETTY MUCH TALKED THAT THROUGH AND YEAH, I FEEL LIKE UNLESS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PEOPLE IN HERE THAT PROBABLY WANNA SPEAK.
UM, REALLY THE ONLY THING UNDER THIS, IF THE SHERIFF WANTS TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON HIS STEPPING GRADE, I DO, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE SALARY PART AND THIS, THIS IS KIND OF RELATES TO IT AND HOW WE, WE JUDGE OUR PEOPLE.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER LAST MONTH, I, I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND UH, I WANNA GO OVER THIS REAL QUICK AGAIN.
UH, 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND ACTUALLY I GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT SAID THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE IT.
UM, WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS, UH, FOR THE FIRST SEVEN MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.
SO OUR, OUR RESPONSE TIMES, UH, WENT DOWN ABOUT 20% FOR THE FIRST SEVEN MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, AND EVEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY SAID THAT THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE.
AND IF IT WAS DONE, IT PROBABLY JUST ONE OR TWO CALLS AND Y'ALL JUST HAPPENED TO LUCK OUT AND BE THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED.
IT WASN'T ONE OR TWO CALLS, IT WAS 69 DIFFERENT CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND THEN I RAN, WE HAVE ANOTHER MONTH NOW, SO I RAN AUGUST 1ST EIGHT MONTHS, AND OUR REDUCTION WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
SO ACTUALLY WE WENT FROM 20 AND A HALF PERCENT TO JUST UNDER 19%, UH, WITH 79 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND THEY, MEANING THE PATROL FOLKS, THE COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE, AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA GIVE CREDIT TO THIS GOVERNING BODY FOR GIVING US THE TOOLS AND THE PEOPLE AND THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED TO BASICALLY DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.
SO I, I WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DID NOT BELIEVE IT.
AND ONE OTHER THING WHEN, UH, COMMISSIONER HU YOU SPOKE ABOUT COMPRESSION.
I'M, CAN I ASK JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT? UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PRIORITY ONE DESIGNATION, THAT THERE WERE NO CHANGES IN THE DEFINITION OF PRIORITY ONE OR ANYTHING.
THERE'S LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOT, THEY, THEY'RE THE IN PROGRESS CALLS.
THESE ARE LIGHTS AND SIREN AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BUSTING TAIL TO GET THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASSUME.
BUT FOR THE PESSIMISTS WHO MAY BE WATCHING, THEY MIGHT BE SAYING, OH, WELL THEY PROBABLY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHICH BASICALLY THE RESPONSE TIME ON THAT IS ZERO.
UH, WE, WE COULD, I COULD RE I COULD LOWER THIS TO MAYBE ONE SECOND, BUT NO, NO, THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE IN PROGRESS CALLS.
SO NO, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
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AND THEN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PAY SCALE, WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT COMPRESSION, I THINK YOU CERTAINLY UNDERSTOOD, BUT I THINK YOU WANTED ME TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT.AND I'M, I'M HOPING THIS ILLUSTRATION HERE WILL EXPLAIN THAT.
AND I'M USING WEATHERFORD PD SINCE THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
I MEAN, WE'RE TRULY IN THEIR MARKET.
UM, THIS IS THE STARTING PAY FOR A POLICE OFFICER IN WEATHERFORD.
THE TOP ONE THERE, IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT IT'S, UH, 64,743.
AND THE TOP OUT PAY ON IN NINE YEARS IS JUST OVER 95,000.
SO IN NINE YEARS, A WEATHERFORD OFFICER IS GONNA BE MAKING ROUGHLY 48% MORE THAN THE FIRST DAY THAT HE STARTED THERE.
SO IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE THERE.
AND IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM PART, THAT'S THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND THAT TOP SET OF NUMBERS IS OUR CURRENT PAY SCALE.
SO DAY ONE, A DEPUTY ACTUALLY MAKES MORE THAN A WEATHERFORD OFFICER ON DAY ONE.
OUR, OUR, OUR, I GUESS IN THE DOOR PAY IS VERY GOOD.
AND THEN THIS MARKET IS FOR THE METROPLEX MARKET.
WE'RE, WE'RE VERY GOOD ON GETTING PEOPLE IN THE DOOR.
NOW, AS OURS TOPS OUT IN 12 YEARS, WELL WEATHERFORD'S NINE, OURS IS 12, A DEPUTY CAN EARN JUST ROUGHLY 24% MORE THAN THE PAY THAT HE COMES IN THE DOOR AT.
SO OUR PAY SCALE IS MUCH MORE COMPRESSED AND ACTUALLY SPREAD OUT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED, WHICH IS, THAT'S IN OUR ENTIRE PROPOSED, STILL SPREAD OUT OVER 12 YEARS, THAT PERCENTAGE IS ROUGHLY 38.5% OVER 12 YEARS, AS OPPOSED FROM DAY ONE TO, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, WE'LL NEVER CATCH WEATHERFORD.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO CATCH WEATHERFORD, BUT WE'RE GONNA JUST TRY TO TAKE AS MUCH OF A BUY OUT OF THAT APPLE AS WE CAN.
AND WHEN WE BACK, WILL WE BE BACK NEXT YEAR ASKING FOR MORE ON THIS? DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU YES, WE PROBABLY WILL.
WHEN DOES THIS END? THIS, WHEN THE MARKET ENDS? THE MARKET IS DRIVING THESE, THESE SALARIES RIGHT HERE.
AND WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THE MARKET.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MATCH THE MARKET, BUT WE, WE NEED THOSE QUALITY PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE AFTER WE TRAIN THEM AND HOPEFULLY THEY STAY HERE AND THEY CAN HELP US GETTING THOSE TIMES DOWN.
WE HAD A COUPLE EXTRA PEOPLE IN TRAINING UNIT LAST MONTH OR AUGUST, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY OUR RESPONSE TIMES WENT UP.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN TRAINING.
YOU HAVE TWO MAN UNITS THAT TAKES A CAR OFF THE ROAD.
AND I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
DO YOU THINK THAT HELPED UNDERSTAND.
BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, IF WE GET A SECOND, WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE.
BUT I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE DROPPED THE 4% COLA THAT WE GAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND GO TO THE STEPPING GRADE PROPOSAL WITH 9% RAISE, DO AWAY WITH THE COLA AND JUST GIVE 'EM A 9% RAISE.
WILL THAT WORK AT ALL FOR THE, DO WE NEED A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT, GET A SECOND? WE, WE DO.
I'M ASKING FOR A SECOND ON THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION ABOUT COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.
I NEED A SECOND FOR THE DISCUSSION.
I'LL MAKE THE SECOND JUST SO WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THAT.
WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT SHERIFF? 9% WOULD BY, I'M GONNA GUESS IT'D BE PROBABLY JUST UNDER 1 MILLION, PROBABLY 900.
SO THAT ADOPTING THE NEW STEPPING GRADE AND THEN PUTTING 9% ON TOP OF IT.
TAKING OUT THE 4% COLA AND JUST PUTTING 9% INTO THE, INTO THE PROPOSED STEPPING GRADE.
SO IT WON'T BE THE SAME STEPPING GRADE.
THE PROPOSED WILL BE A PORTION OF IT.
WELL, WHILE SHE'S LOOKING UP THOSE NUMBERS AND YES, ANYTHING YOU WE CAN DO TO GET CLOSER AND, AND KIND OF CLOSE THAT GAP WOULD BE WOULD BE GREAT.
AND WHATEVER PERCENT WE CAN GET, I'LL PLUG IT INTO THE PROPOSED RATE OR SCALE AND JUST COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS THERE.
WELL, I KNOW WE CAN'T GO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, BUT WE CAN GET PART OF THE WAY THERE.
WELL, WE UNDERSTAND AND IS THIS FOR EVERYBODY THAT WORKS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, 9% INCREASE IT'S COMMISSION PERSONNEL.
THESE ARE BADGES AND GUNS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
MY THINKING, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT, MAYBE NOT GET THERE COMPLETELY THIS YEAR, BUT YET WE HAVE, BECAUSE THIS REALLY IS A LONG TERM ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE HERE THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US ON LONGEVITY OF THE OFFICER AND WHAT THEY'RE MAKING VERSUS BEING COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER MARKETS AND OTHER
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AGENCIES.CAN WE GET THEIR, CAN WE GET THEIR PART OF THE WAY NOW AND THEN COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND THEN CONTINUE TO TRY TO STEP IN, CONTINUE STEP INTO THIS RATHER THAN JUST GET IT ALL IN ONE SHOT? WHICH IS, AS YOU HEARD, COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR PICTURE HERE THAT IN FRONT OF US THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, JUST AN OPTION I'M THINKING ABOUT IS, IS CAN WE GET THERE, CAN WE GET PART OF THE WAY NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROBLEM.
I WE, IF WE DO, IF WE DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, IT IT'S, IT, WHAT IMPACT IS THAT GONNA REALLY HAVE WITH THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE HITTING THAT NUMBER UP THERE THAT'S BEING IMPACTED.
CAN, CAN WE ALSO DEFER THIS TO NEXT YEAR TO HELP BRIDGE THAT AS WELL? TO GET CLOSER AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND WE KNOW THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IS GET CLOSER, RIGHT? WE, WE KNOW THAT, AND I BELIEVE BECKY, THE PROPOSED SCALE WAS ROUGHLY 11 TO 12%.
IS THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS BEFORE ANY NEW POSITIONS THAT WERE GRANTED.
I'M SHOWING ON SALARIES ALONE, IT'S ABOUT 970,000 FOR A TOTAL COST OF RIGHT UNDER 1.4.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A ROUGH TO GO CURRENT SCALE.
PLUS 9% PLUS NINE IS THE ONE FOUR.
AND THAT PERCENTAGE WOULD BE ROUGHLY THAT 1.4.
THESE DEPUTIES LEAVE THEIR HOMES EVERY MORNING NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY'RE COMING HOME OR NOT.
THEY DESERVE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT 4% COLA WE GAVE THEM TO BEGIN WITH.
WELL, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT WELL, I I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
HOW, HOW YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT? WELL, IF WE'D HAVE WENT TO THE B FIRST, WE, WE MIGHT KNOW WHERE WE COME UP WITH SOME MONEY.
WELL, THE REASON THAT I ASKED TO DO THIS FIRST IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT WE MIGHT GRANT IN BETWEEN.
WE, WE, WE CAN'T SET THE RATE FIRST AND THEN WE'VE STILL GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO APPROVE, SET THE RATE FIRST AND THEN GO BACK.
THAT SEEMS, SEEMS BACKWARD TO ME.
YOU'RE BACK DOING, YOU'RE BACK DOORING.
THAT'S MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
I'M JUST SAYING YEAH, I GOT IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AND THEN THEN HAVE A, A RATE THAT PAYS FOR IT.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, YOU'RE GONNA BACK HAVE TO BACKDOOR IN AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT FIT.
WELL, WE MIGHT HAVE TO RE REVISIT IT LATER ON.
WE WOULD, IN THE MEETING, WE WOULD DO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT 4% THAT WE HAD APPROVED ALREADY, THAT THAT 1.4 WASN'T A NET CHANGE IF WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED 4% FOR THESE COMMISSIONED OFFICERS.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET, WHAT THAT NET CHANGE WOULD BE, BECAUSE WE GET BACK THAT OUT ONE POINT, RIGHT? A LITTLE BIT CLOSE, A LITTLE CLOSER.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLY ABOUT TOTAL.
SO WE COULD TAKE BACK TO SIX 20 OUT OF THE ONE, FOUR AT SEVEN, BUT ON THESE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED, THE, THIS ADDITIONAL ASK WOULD BE A LITTLE UNDER 800,000.
I, I THINK OUR ROUGH NUMBERS THAT WE CAME UP WITH A PROPOSED FROM OUR S IS ROUGHLY 12% MORE.
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT PROB I MEAN IT ROUGHLY, I MEAN, WITHOUT HOLDING ANYBODY TO THAT, I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY THAT.
SO I'M GONNA GUESS IF, IF THE 8% WERE TO PASS, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE COAL OUT AND JUST STARTING EIGHT TOTAL OR FOUR AND ANOTHER FORT, THEN THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE ASK ON THE PROPOSED, IF THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS ROUGH.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, THERE'S ON MA'AM.
UNLESS THAT WELL, AND I'M NOT HERE, YOU KNOW, STUMPING FOR THEM.
SO I'M, I'M HERE FOR THE SHERIFFS OFFICE.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S THE BEST THING THAT
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IF THAT UNLESS THAT'S CHANGED, THIS IS GONNA AFFECT THE BECKY.ARE YOU SHOWING A SALARY TOTAL FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF ABOVE ABOUT 8.1 MILLION? WELL, FOR MINE, THEIR CURRENT
AND SO IF I LOOK AT THE MASTER TOTAL BUDGET, IT'S SHERIFF ANIMAL CONTROL CONSTABLE, WHO ELSE IS UNDER THIS? UM, ANIMAL CONTROL MENTIONED THEY DO HAVE THEIR OWN SEVENTH GRADER IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO BAILIFF, SHERIFF, ANYBODY ELSE UNDER THIS STEPPING GRADE.
AND THE STEPPING GRADE IS A 9% INCREASE, CORRECT.
THAT EIGHT OR NINE OR WHAT IF IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE, THEN Y'ALL COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT IDEA AND JUST, I MEAN, THESE POSSIBLE, THEY CHIEF DEPUTIES ARE VERY WELL.
SO THERE, IF WE ADDED THEM IN THE STEP GRADE, WELL THAT'S GOOD FOR THEIR DEPUTIES, HUH? ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, WE EITHER GO OR, OR DON'T, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROCESS WHAT, 'CAUSE THIS IS A, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INVOLVING OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THE IMPACT OF THIS, I MEAN STILL DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL COST, BUT YOUR MOTION IS ONLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? IT IS.
IS THERE ANY THAT INCLUDES THE BAILIFFS AND CONSTABLES, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? BUT WE CAN HANDLE THOSE.
BUT THAT, THAT IS NOT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
SO IF WE, SO IF, IF ACCORDING TO THE WORKING BUDGET, WE HAVE A TOTAL SALARY IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF 8.13 MILLION, SO ABOUT 8 MILLION.
SO IF WE GO 8% OF THAT, THAT'S 650,000 SALARY ONLY.
THAT IS NOT COUNTING ANY TYPE OF BENEFITS INCREASE OR ANYTHING LIKE, UM, ALL THE EXTRAS, THAT 50% EXTRA THAT WE KIND OF ROUGHLY CALCULATE FOR BENEFIT INSURANCE, WHATEVER.
SO IF YOU LOAD THAT UP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS FOR 8% ON SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ONLY.
ANYONE WHO FALLS UNDER THAT ON THE WORKING BUDGET, ON THE PERSONNEL SALARY LINE.
YEAH, THE ONE THING I WAS GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE THE CURRENT GRADE ALREADY HAS, UM, INCREASES FACTOR INTO THAT, THAT'S NOT ANNUAL INCREASES THAT THEY RECEIVED.
SO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET IS GONNA SHOW THE INCREASE THAT THEY WOULD ALREADY RECEIVED, WHICH IS 2%.
I THINK I'M GOING OFF OF THE 2025 WORKING BUDGET.
SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, THAT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE INCREASES ALREADY BUILT IN.
AND SO WE DON'T INPUT ANY OF THAT FINALIZED.
SO THAT NUMBER WOULD BE THOUSAND.
SO WE'RE TALKING LIKE 1.1 MILLION TOTAL, THAT 4% CALL UP WITH BENEFITS INSURANCE, THOSE TYPES OF RETIREMENT.
WHAT WERE THOSE, WHAT WAS THAT? DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER? 36, 21 WAS ALL IN IT.
SO AT 8% YOU'RE TALKING 1, 2, 4.
WELL, I MADE THE MOTION FOR NINE, BUT I WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO EIGHT INSTEAD OF NINE
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SINCE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT.YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR MOTION TO 8% INSTEAD OF NINE.
AGAIN, MY SECOND STANCE WITHOUT JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THIS, UM, SO THE NET, THE NET DIFFERENCE OF THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 621,000, RIGHT? SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT I HAD WITH THE GUYS AT THE BARN, THE PRECINCT TWO BARN.
WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, HEY, WHAT DO WE NEED THIS YEAR? AND OF COURSE WE NEED NEW SHINY EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED A LOT MORE PEOPLE AND WE NEED THIS AND WE NEED THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSERVATIVE FINANCIALLY.
AND SO I'M EXAGGERATING WHAT THEY SAID A LITTLE BIT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID TO THEM WAS, EVERYTHING YOU ASK FOR, YOU NEED TO BALANCE IT AGAINST EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN UNLIMITED POOL OF FUNDS.
SO SHERIFF, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, YOU'RE THE EXPERT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS PARKER COUNTY.
IF IT COMES DOWN TO WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE EITHER THE NEW POSITIONS OR WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF STEPPING GRADE, WHERE DOES THAT RANK IN YOUR MIND? DO WE NEED NEW BODIES MORE OR DO WE NEED TO PAY OUR CURRENT PEOPLE MORE IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION BETWEEN THE TWO? AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A FUN DECISION TO MAKE, BUT I CAN'T CHOOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER.
I'M NOT SAYING AT THAT LEVEL, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 17 MILLION OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE.
I UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE TO RETAIN THOSE PEOPLE.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE AN EXTREMELY TOUGH JOB IN DECIDING WE DO HAVE A TOUGH JOB TO SOME DEGREE.
UM, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, SO FAR NOBODY'S SHOT ME OR SHOT AT ME.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOUR GUYS PROBABLY HAVE A TOUGHER JOB THAN I DO, BUT I DO HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE TAXPAYERS.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS I'M TRYING TO AVOID MAKING AN UNEDUCATED DECISION, WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING YOU, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION, BUT I'M ASKING YOU IN YOUR OPINION, IF WE GET DOWN TO IT AND WE EITHER HAVE TO PAY OUR CURRENT PEOPLE MORE OR WE HAVE TO GET THESE NEW POSITIONS PLUS THE VEHICLES THAT WERE REQUIRED AND ALL OF THAT.
LIKE THOSE ARE TWO EXPENSIVE THINGS IN A VERY LIMITED BUDGET.
WHICH ONE, IN YOUR EDUCATED OPINION, BETTER SERVES PARKER COUNTY RESIDENTS? PEOPLE WILL WORK HARDER IF YOU PAY 'EM MORE.
AND, AND TO BE FAIR, THAT'S WHAT MY, UH, PRECINCT GUY SAID AS WELL.
WELL, SO I I CO COMPLETELY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IN NATURE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO DO MORE WITH LESS AND UH, THAT'S NOT NEW TO US.
UM, SO, BUT, BUT AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE'RE HERE.
IF I HAD TO GO ONE, IT'D BE ONE TWO WITH A SALARY OVER THE PEOPLE, BUT THEY WOULD BE A CLOSE.
ONE, TWO, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I RESPECT THAT.
AND TO THAT POINT TO THE QUESTION THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLD IS ASKING YOU, UH, TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN, UH, WITH THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE, WITH THE REDUCTION OF THOSE, THAT RESPONSE TIMES IS, I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN DOUBT THAT ALL THE TIME, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T EXAGGERATE THAT.
THOSE ARE NUMBERS WE TAKE AND WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE CORRECT.
UM, TO THAT POINT OF WHAT COMMISSIONER HALL WAS ASKING AND, AND PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT TO TRY TO MAKE A DECISION, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE BOTH EQUALLY IMPORTANT.
BUT THE FACT THAT YOU'VE LOWERED THOSE SO DRAMATICALLY, I, I THINK CAN HELP US HERE.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING THERE WITH THOSE RESPONSE TIME IS MUCH MORE FA FASTER THAN WHAT I EVEN IMAGINED THAT YOU DID.
UM, I'M I'M STILL SURPRISED THAT, THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AS LOW AS THEY ARE.
AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A TRIBUTE TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE, YOUR DEPARTMENT.
BUT AGAIN, WITH, WITH THOSE TWO ISSUES, UM, WHICH ARE IN YOUR, IN EQUALLY IMPORTANT ALMOST.
BUT THE, THE PAY OF THESE IS REALLY WHAT IS CRITICAL IN THE RETENTION IS, IS REALLY CASE.
THIS, IT, IT BOILS DOWN TO THAT.
AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE FACT THAT YOU LOWER THOSE RESPONSE TIMES, I SEE THAT THAT CAN BE A HELP TO US IN TRYING TO GET THESE MORE COMPENSATION, BUT YET TRY TO BALANCE THIS OUT AS TO WHAT THE, THE REQUESTS ARE FOR THE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
I MEAN IT'S JUST, AGAIN, THAT, THAT KIND OF GIVES US INFORMATION AND IT HELPS US WITH THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? DO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, I JUST HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
I MEAN, IN THE CURRENT SCALE, IT'S A 2% INCREASE FOR MOST OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE COMMISSIONED EMPLOYEES UNLESS THEY'RE MAXED OUT.
SO EVEN IF Y'ALL DID CURRENT PAY SCALE PLUS SIX, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 650,000 IN SALARIES, ABOUT 930,000 TOTAL COST.
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AND ON THEIR ANN, SO THEY WOULD GET 6% ON TEN ONE AND THEN THEY WOULD STILL GET AN ADDITIONAL 2% ON ANNIVERSARY.SO THAT WOULD BE AN 8% INCREASE TO NOT ALL.
SO ACTUALLY THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE HIGH 'CAUSE THIS HAS GOT EVERYBODY FACTORED IN.
SO FOR SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY IS AT A MAX OUT THAT DOESN'T GET AN ANNIVERSARY, SAL GET AN SALARY INCREASE AT ANNIVERSARY, THEY WOULD STILL GET 6%, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTY GOT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO IF ON THIS VOTING ON THIS MOTION, IT WOULD BE 8% PLUS THE TWO ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY.
SO THAT, SO THE 2% INCREMENTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 310,000 BUCKS.
AND THEY VARY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO IT DOESN'T CREATE IN THE BUDGET.
THEY'RE NOT GIVEN AND THE FIRST DAYS.
ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER? I GUESS I'M LOST WHERE THE MOTION IS RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT YOU YOU'S IN YOUR MOTION? 8%.
WHICH WOULD MAKE IT 10% WITH THIS ADDITIONAL TWO ACCORDING TO WHAT SHE'S SAYING, WE'LL VOTE.
AND IF THAT DON'T PASS, UH, Y'ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UH, BEFORE I VOTE ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A REMINDER OF HOW MANY NEW POSITIONS AND WHAT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WHAT BILL? WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AS FAR AS NEW POSITIONS IN RELATED CAP? WE'VE APPROVED THOSE.
WE'VE APPROVED, WE'VE APPROVED THOSE.
I, WHAT I'M ASKING IS HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT? OH, THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED RELATED TO NEW POSITIONS INCLUDING CAP FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I KNOW THE TWO TRANSPORT PEOPLE, WHICH WAS APPROVED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT WAS APPROVED TO CONTINUE.
ONE 13, UH, TWO INVESTIGATORS.
INVESTIGATOR TWO, FULLTIME INVESTIGATORS 3 48.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THERE'S STILL THREE WITH ALL THREE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I I VOTED NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BRING IT BACK UP LATER.
IT DOESN'T SHOW I GOT WHAT DO YOU HAVE OVER THERE? I DON'T, IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THE BILL WHO VOTED WHAT? YEAH, IT DOES.
IT'S ON, IT SHOULD BE ON YOUR SCREEN.
IT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER
CAN WE GET IT? CAN WE GET ADJUSTED WHERE IT SHOWS UP THERE? YEAH, HE JUST HAS, JUDGE, WILL YOU HIT IT? OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S COMMENTS THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT A, I I AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, IF YOU'D BRING THIS UP.
AGAIN, DON'T LET US FORGET THIS 'CAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WELL, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST AND TRY TO, UH, TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER TO WHAT THE REQUESTS ARE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND OUR, THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT THAT VOTE WAS NOT A REFLECTION OF WHAT
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OUR COMMITMENT IS TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND TO OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO THE BUDGET AND, AND WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE CAN.AND IT'S THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLT ECHOES WHAT THIS COURT FEELS.
THAT'S THAT'S THE SENTIMENT OF THIS COURT.
JUDGE, CAN WE MOVE BACK TO, UH, GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES? SO I CAN ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS OF OKAY.
THE AUDITOR, UH, SO, SO REQUESTED ON ITEM
[I.A. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]
A, SO I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT, UH, AT, AT WHAT'S BEEN HANDED OFF FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE JUVENILE JUSTICE A EP PROGRAM.WHERE'S DO WE HAVE THAT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET? 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT HERE OF, UH, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM I SEE $563,493 AND 68 CENTS FOR THAT PROGRAM.
SO IF WE GO TO THE OPERATING SECTION OF THIS SPREADSHEET, UHHUH
AND SO IT'S AN OVERALL INCREASE FOR JUVENILE PROBATION, UM, AS WELL AS CSCD OF 166,911.
BUT WE ALSO MOVED 63,000 OF THE THRIFT MART LEASE THAT WE ARE PAYING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO NET IT'S ABOUT $103,000 INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
SO JJAP YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT HAD A DECREASE OF 273,000.
UM, AND THEN WHERE PART OF THAT INCREASE IS 390,000 TO, UM, THE REGULAR JUVENILE PROBATION BUDGET.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE $860,000 THAT WE WERE MORE OR LESS FORCED TO APPROVE ON THE LAST DAY LAST YEAR WAS ALL THAT SPENT? NO, NO, NO, NO.
WE, IN FACT, I'M PREPARED TO, IT'LL ROLL BACK INTO FUND BALANCE.
WELL, IT, IT ACTUALLY WE WILL ONLY BECAUSE IT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND, WE BUDGET A TRANSFER AND SO WE ONLY TRANSFER THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ACTUALLY SPEND.
SO WE DO THAT FOR ANYTHING WHERE IT'S A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WE DON'T HAVE IN, IN ROUND ROUGH NUMBERS HOW MUCH WAS SPENT OR HOW MUCH IS BEING SENT BACK.
IT IT'S, IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MM-HMM.
I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT A 6% COLA FOR EVERYBODY THAT WORKS THERE.
SO I, I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS ONLY TO DO WHATEVER THE COUNTY APPROVED.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER IN THERE IN CASE SAY YOU ALL CAME BACK.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES THAT'S HAPPENED WHERE SAY YOU APPROVE, YOU KNOW, A 3% AND THEN LATER ON YOU GIVE 4% OR 5%.
AND SO THAT WAS JUST A BUFFER BUILT IN.
SO THAT WAY THOSE EMPLOYEES DIDN'T GET THE SAME RAISE AS ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES SHOULD.
IF YOU GUYS WENT BACK AND WENT ABOVE 4%.
BUT I BELIEVE THE INTENTION WAS ONLY TO THAT THEY WOULD ONLY GIVE RAISES OF WHAT ALL THE OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST BE, YEAH, GO AHEAD, JUDGE.
AND, AND TWO, WE, UM, HAD A, A MEETING, A SPECIAL SESSION ON THE BUDGET AND ADOPTED THAT, UH, WHICH Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE UPDATED WITH THIS AND, AND JUST TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS, UH, IT'S A 4% COLA, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED ON THIS.
AND THE ONE THING THAT THAT COULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THIS IS, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON THIS AND ADDING TWO VEHICLES, UH, WITH THE JUVENILE, UM, ADDING IN ONE TRANSPORTATION OFFICER, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOING THAT AND ADDING THOSE THEN THAT POSSIBLY COULD BE REMOVED OUT OF THIS AND NOT FILLED.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE NEED THAT POSITION ALSO BECAUSE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN IS THAT THEY WANT ONE OF THE OFFICERS OR THEY WANT SOMEONE FROM THE JUVENILE TO ATTEND OR ACCOMPANY.
UM, THAT'S WHETHER WE DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S SPEAKING AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE JUVENILE BOARD, UH, IF THAT'S NECESSARY OR NOT.
UH, WE, WE, WE'D RATHER THAT NOT BE THE CASE.
UH, BUT REALLY WHAT THE, WHAT THIS IS, IS WHAT THE BUDGET IS, IS AN INCREASE, UH, IN BEDS FOR THOSE, UM, IN DETENTION AND THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND TO PAY MORE.
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BASED ON THE SERVICES, BETTER TREATMENT, UM, JUST GOING THROUGH.BUT THAT WOULD IMPACT US ON THAT, ON THE TRANSPORTATION.
BUT TO ADD IT, ADD A TRANSPORTATION OFFICER, UH, IF THAT'S NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, THEN WE WOULD, WE COULD REMOVE THAT IF THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
AND SO, UH, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IS WE WENT THROUGH THESE LINE BY LINE AND IT REALLY CUT THIS BACK, UH, TO WHAT SOME OF THE NEEDS ARE, AND I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT BUDGET ON THE, UH, JUVENILE BOARD.
AGAIN, IT'S A COMMUNITY BASED SERVICE, UM, YEAH.
UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PUT INTO IN THAT SITUATION.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS THE BARE MINIMUM OF WHAT WE CAN AND, AND TO BEGIN THIS SCHOOL.
NOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY RAISED THAT, THAT BRACKET OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE SCHOOL BUSINESS AND THIS IS A, A BUDGET THAT, UH, WILL MEET THE NEEDS, UH, OF THAT.
AND THAT'S SPEAKING AS A COUNTY JUDGE AND, AND BEING ON THAT BOARD.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH THIS LINE BY ITEM AND TOOK OUR TIME AND, AND REALLY DUG THROUGH THIS AND DISCUSSED EACH ONE OF THESE.
UH, SO YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WITH IT, I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE.
WELL, I, I WAS SPECIFIC TO, WELL, GO AHEAD.
SINCE OUR BUDGET BEGAN SEPTEMBER ONE, I WAS INFORMED AND BECKY JUST SAID THAT AS WELL, THEIR FORMS WERE TURNED IN WITH A 4% OKAY.
OF WHAT THE COURT HAS ALREADY.
THAT'S WHY I WAS QUESTIONING, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHY THAT WAS IN THERE JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT WAY THEY DIDN'T MISS OUT ON, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY, IT'S 4% GONNA GET.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST SHOWING EXPENSES TO DATE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THEY INCLUDE ENCUMBRANCES.
I JUST DID AN INQUIRY AND IT'S 146,772 FOR THE YEAR.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE REST OF THE PAYROLL FOR THE, THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED ME THIS QUESTION, JUDGE.
I I, I DON'T, I MEAN, YOU'RE THE REPRESENTATIVE.
I DON'T MEAN TO BE, BUT HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THE J-J-A-E-P CURRENTLY? HOW MANY STUDENTS? HOW MANY STUDENTS DO WE HAVE? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN ARTICULATED TO THAT BOARD.
UH, I NOT MANY, BUT IT, IT WILL POPULATE AS IT AS IT GOES FORWARD.
WELL, SURE, THEY'RE GONNA WANT THEM OUT OF THE SCHOOLS AND PUT 'EM ON US.
WELL, NO, I THINK THE FEEDBACK HAS HAS BEEN THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY CAN TO KEEP THOSE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL, WHETHER EITHER THROUGH THEIR BRIDGE, BRIDGE PROGRAM, THESE ARE GONNA BE STUDENTS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY DILIGENT WITH IN TRYING TO KEEP THOSE FROM HAVING TO MOVE THOSE, UH, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE WITH THEM.
UM, I I I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, AND I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, UH, WITH THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD IN OUR PREVIOUS BOARD, THAT, UM, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE CONSERVATIVE.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS IS TO THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, SO YES, I, AND I ASKED SOME VERY POINTED QUESTIONS ON THIS, ON SOME OF THESE, THESE THINGS AND, AND THEY WERE JUSTIFIED IN WHAT THEY WERE, THE RESPONSE BACK WAS.
AND SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND I JUST NEEDED TO POINT SOME THINGS OUT IN THAT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE STUDENTS CURRENTLY.
COMMISSIONER I FIVE STUDENTS, YOU'RE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT RIGHT.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND IN TRYING TO BRING WELL, AND, AND, AND, AND YOU, AND YOU, YOU ECHO MY THOUGHTS AS WELL.
UH, I THINK THAT THE, THE RESPONSE TO, TO WHAT YOUR POINT'S VERY WELL TAKEN IS NOT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE HAVE RIGHT THIS MOMENT, BUT PREPARING AND HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE STAFF READY AS THAT NUMBER WILL GROW.
MY, MY CONTENTION AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, UH, AND I RECOGNIZE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO TRANSPORT THOSE KIDS THERE, SO IT'S A BURDEN ON THEM, BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING ONLY THE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS.
WE ARE ALSO IN THE MATERIALS THAT I WAS PROVIDED.
UH, WE'RE ALSO ACCEPTING THE STUDENTS WHO ARE COULD BE PLACED THERE, RIGHT? SO SCHOOL DISTRICT PROBABLY KNOW MORE FROM THE DISCRETIONARY DISTRICT.
UM, THERE'S A AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE TO PAY PARKER COUNTY FOR YEAH, I I, RIGHT.
I WAS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I WAS TOLD THAT I COULDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING, IF YOU RECALL.
AND SO I DON'T, I HAVE VERY LIMITED INFORMATION.
I, I GOT THE, THE INCH THICK, UH, AMOUNT OF, UH, PAPER THAT SHOWS ALL THE POLICIES AND EVERYTHING AND, AND WHICH ALLOWS THE DISCRETIONARY STUDENTS TO COME AS WELL.
SO, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH ME, COMMISSIONER ON THAT BECAUSE I DID ATTEND THAT MEETING ALSO, UM, WITH AN INVITE FROM ONE OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS.
UH, I ALSO WAS NOT INITIALLY INVITED TO THAT MEETING, BUT I'M VERY GLAD I WENT
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BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO MEET AND ASK VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO THE DIRECTOR THAT'S OVERALL THE J JEPS IN TEXAS AND, UH, GOT SOME VERY DIRECT QUESTIONS BACK RESPONSES BACK ON THIS.IS THAT, TO YOUR QUESTION ON PROBABLY FOUR, SIX, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS NOW THAT'S ATTENDING THAT, THAT'S GOING IN, THAT NUMBER WILL GROW AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND FROM THE QUESTION I ASKED FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR FOUR, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN, IN, IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE COULD BE UP IN, UH, THE HUNDREDS.
SO, UH, WE, THIS, THIS BUDGET COULD GROW FOR SURE.
DO, DO WE HAVE ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT ON WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT THAT RATE IS FOR THE DISCRETIONARY STUDENTS TO ATTEND? I DON'T, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THAT AGREEMENT.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S IN THE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL MIGHT KNOW UP THE BOTTOM LINE IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE PUT IN A SITUATION THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MEET A NEED, UM, NOT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, BUT HAVING THE, THE TEACHERS, HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SYSTEM SET UP TO WHERE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE GROWTH, EXPECTED GROWTH IN THE STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOVED INTO THERE SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DISCRETIONARY SIDE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT THE FEEDBACK WAS IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO EVERY, THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA DUMP EVERYBODY AND JUST START THROWING 'EM IN THERE.
I THINK WHAT THE INTENT IS IS TO TRY TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM UNDER THE BRIDGE PROGRAMS AND, UM, THE SCHOOL, BUT THOSE THAT, THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND REALLY MORE ON THE SLIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DISCRETIONARY IS THAT NUMBER WILL GROW, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA GROW AS SO EXPONENTIALLY LIKE WHAT WE THOUGHT IN OUR FEAR WAS, BUT OVER TIME IT COULD, MY ONLY ASK IS, AND, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT COURT OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST AN EMAIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE CURRENTLY THERE AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A BIMONTHLY UPDATE AS TO THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE BEING SENT.
IN FACT, WHAT WE CAN DO, YOU DON'T TO BRING IT TO COURT, I'D JUST, I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR, OKAY.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE A, NOT IN COURT, BUT PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT ON THAT AND GIVE THAT SPECIFICALLY TO THE JJEP.
AM AM I CRAZY OR DID WE NOT ALREADY GET THAT INFORMATION AT, AT ONE POINT AND WAS LESS THAN 10 WE DIDN'T GET IT.
WE HAD THE, THE, THE GENERAL PROBATION DIRECTOR STOOD HERE AND SAID SHE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
CAN, CAN I JUST ASK MAYBE A REALLY DUMB QUESTION.
IF WE'RE SERVING LESS THAN 50 KIDS, WHICH I THINK WE ALL KNOW, IT'S LESS THAN 50, HOW DO WE NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY KIDS WE'RE CURRENTLY SERVING? I THINK
AND I THINK ONE TIME WE DID ASK DURING THE SUMMER, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALSO ASKED THAT QUESTION DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I GUESS MY TO ECHO COMMISSIONER, IF I CAN NOT SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER WALDEN, BUT KIND OF ECHO ECHO HIS COMMENTS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TOTAL BUDGET SITUATION, AND KIM AND BECKY AND, UH, BRIANNA HAVE ALREADY TEXTED ME.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF NUMBERS THAT ARE OFF ON THIS, BUT THE, THE TOTAL STORY'S STILL PRETTY DARN ACCURATE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH OR SAY NO TO REQUEST TO SAY NO TO.
AND SO IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY ON PROBABLY LESS THAN 10 KIDS, THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW.
IT IS THAT, THAT'S WHY I SAID IT.
AND, AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THERE.
I WON'T GET INTO IT, BUT, UH, UH, DURING 15 IS ON THE DISCRETIONARY
SO THAT MEANS THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY NEGOTIATED IS WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE.
BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH A DOLLAR OF 110 BUCKS A DAY PER STUDENT WHEN OUR BUDGET'S OUTRAGEOUS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE START LOOKING AT PRORATA OR WHAT'S A LEGITIMATE SHARE OR COST ALLOCATED TO PER STUDENT, AND THEN THERE'S DISCRETIONARIES COMING OVER THERE, THAT'S A HUGE GAP THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT THAT.
WELL, JUST, JUST TO EXTEND THINGS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND I, I'M, I'M NOT HERE TO THROW ROCKS AT ANYBODY, BUT JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S REALLY CLEAR, UH, WE'RE PAYING A DIRECTOR SOMETHING OVER $80,000, 80,000 PLUS 4% COLA,
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UH, WE'RE PAYING A-A-Y-E-S OFFICER, WHATEVER THAT IS, LITTLE LESS THAN 70,000 AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, 52,000 A TEACHER, 80 SOMETHING OVER $80,000 AND A PARAPROFESSIONAL, UH, SOMETHING OVER $27,000 FOR WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.SO, UH, THAT'S SALARY WITHOUT BENEFITS.
JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
I APPRECIATE YOU SERVING ON THE BOARD.
UH, ONE THING AND, AND IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TOO.
THIS CAN RELATE TO GENERAL BUDGET IN THE, UH, AD THAT GETS PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER REGARDING THE SALARIES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, I THINK THAT IT'S VERY UNFAIR AND UNCLEAR WHEN THE COMMISSIONER'S SALARIES GET PLACED IN WITH OUR VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AS SALARY.
AND SO IT SHOWS A TOTAL THAT IS NOT, NOT WHAT I THINK IS, IS CORRECT.
OUR ACTUAL SALARY SHOULD BE PLACED IN THERE.
NOT, NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE GET FOR DRIVING OUR PICKUPS ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
UH, SO I, I WOULD LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THAT THAT PROBABLY FALLS WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT I, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT OUR ACTUAL SALARIES ARE.
WHAT'S THE ACTUAL SALARY THAT WE RECEIVE WITHOUT VEHICLE ALLOWANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE WITH, WITH THE 4%, WHICH ONLY APPLIES TO OUR SALARY, NOTHING ELSE.
BECAUSE THAT 4% DOES NOT EQUATE TO COMBINING YOUR CAR ALLOWANCE CENTER FOUR.
I I DON'T SEE HOW TO BE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
I DON'T SEE HOW WE GET ONLY THE 4% FOR JUST OUR SALARY, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 1 23 RANGE.
BECKY, YOUR SALARY WENT THE 4%.
AND SO WHY TELL US, TELL EVERYBODY THAT'S LISTENING OR WANTS TO KNOW WHY, THEN IT GETS REPORTED THAT IT'S ONE 50 SOMETHING.
WELL, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF YOUR TOTAL COMPENSATION.
I MEAN, YOUR TAX, NOT OUR SALARY THAT'S ON IT.
SO WE HAVE TO POST AN ENTIRE COMPENSATION FOR ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WE HAVE TO POST INCREASES TO LONGEVITY AS WELL.
LET'S STATUTE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN, IT'S AD'S.
IT IS, IT IS DECEIVING TO SOMEONE THAT READS THAT AD IN THE, WHETHER FOR DEMOCRAT THAT THINKS THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR SALARY IS BECAUSE UNLIKE SOME OTHERS, WE HAVE TO USE OUR VEHICLE TO, TO ACTUALLY DO OUR WORK.
NOT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST USE TO DRIVE BACK AND FORTH TO OUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.
AND SO, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE FROM YOU, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY TODAY, BUT A LIST OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHOSE SALARY IS GREATER THAN THAT OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
AND AGAIN, THE AD CAN BE DONE IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE.
IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO SHOW THAT THERE'S A, THAT THERE'S A SALARY OF THIS AMOUNT OF VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AND THEN A LONGEVITY PAY.
'CAUSE PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT AND THEY SAY, OH GOSH, HE MAKES THIS AMOUNT.
HE PROBABLY GETS A COUNTY VEHICLE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND THAT IS NOT CORRECT BECAUSE THAT 4% THAT WE VOTED ON ONLY APPLIES APPLIES TO YOUR SALARY.
JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO CLEAR UP.
THE ONE THING THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO HERE THROUGHOUT THROUGH THIS, UH, IS ADOPT AS PARKER COUNTY JUVENILE, UH, JJEP BUDGET.
UM, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK, WHETHER WE CAN DO IT UNDER GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES, WHICH I THINK WE CAN.
UH, I WOULD SAY THE JUVENILE BOARD APPROVES THE BUDGET IS APPROVING THE FUNDING FROM THE BUDGET, JUST SO THAT'S CLEAR, ALL WHICH IS INCLUDED IN HERE.
SO IS THIS, LIKE WE WERE TOLD IN THE PAST, THIS IS A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT SITUATION WHERE WE EITHER VOTE YES OR NO AS FAR AS FUNDING THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.
THAT HOW I READ THE AG OPINION.
BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE DISAPPROVING IT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BOARD OR THEY'RE PUTTING BEFORE THE COURT, YOU'RE NOT TO QUESTION LINE ITEM, YOU'RE EVERYTHING ELSE'S PROVIDE TO THE COURT.
SO THE COURT KNOWS THE LEVEL OF FUNDING TO PROVIDE, TO OPERATE THOSE BUDGETS.
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OKAY.SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ON ITEM A, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM A? WELL, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT TO VOTE ON IT IF WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT.
I THINK THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET ITEM.
JUDGE, IF YOU WANT, THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET FOR THE JUDGE.
CAN YOU FOR THE JUVENILE, I'M, I'M SORRY, FOR THE PARKER COUNTY JUVENILE BOARD RIGHT.
AND INCLUDING THE JJEP BUDGET.
AND WHAT'S THAT CURRENT NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE IT? ABOUT 46 0 0 4 3 2 540 $6,004 AND 32 CENTS.
THAT'S JUST FOR THE J-J-A-E-P.
IT'S MORE, YEAH, IT WAS AND CAUGHT ME HERE WITHOUT IT FOCUS SO MUCH ON THE JJP.
I ONLY HAVE THE JJAP PORTION WITH ME.
BRIANNA, CAN YOU CHECK THIS NUMBER? THE, THE, WE CAN, WE CAN, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE CAN DO, JUDGE.
WE CAN TAKE THIS A SHORT BREAK AND GET THAT AND STRETCH OUR LEGS.
HOW ABOUT THAT? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SHOW, WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AT 10 16.
AND MOVE BACK TO THE, UM, DISCUSSION AT HAND ON ITEM A ON THE GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES ON THE, UH, TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN CONFIRMED FOR THE BUDGET IS ONE $1,698,411, WHICH INCLUDES THE JUVENILE BOARD BUDGET ALONG WITH THE JUDGE, A EP.
AND, AND I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT.
I SHOULD, YEAH, I GOT THE, I RAISED THE VOLUME OF IS THIS BETTER? AND TO YOUR POINT, UM, COMMISSIONER HALE, UH, IT IS A, YES SIR.
IT'S EITHER ACCEPT IT OR DENY IT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
IF WE GO TO ITEM B TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, THAT MIGHT HELP US, SOME JUDGE, NOT NECESSARILY THE VOTE ON IT RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN COME BACK TO IT AND LET GO, BUT TO DISCUSS IT.
UH, WOULD THAT BE AGREEABLE? I ASK QUICK, DID WE NEED TO VOTE MAY OR MAY ON THAT THERE WAS NO SECOND.
IT FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND VOTE.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT NOW THOUGH.
AT THIS POINT IT FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
IF WE'D GO TO ITEM B, JUDGE, I THINK IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO BRING A LITTLE CLARITY TO THINGS.
ITEM D DISCUSSED VOTE ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST AND OR NEW POSITIONS.
UH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT B HE SAID, OH, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, MY NOTES IS A LITTLE BIT STUFFY TODAY.
UH, ITEM D DIDN'T ENUNCIATE THAT CORRECTLY.
[I.B. Discuss/Vote on Proposed Tax Rate for FY2025. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]
DISCUSSED VOTE ON PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR FY 25.WHAT I BROUGHT UP EARLIER IS THE, IS THE, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING $2.15 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND TO FUND A DEBT RATE THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED AND TO, UH, TO RAISE THAT DEBT RATE.
I'M WORKING ON THAT, THAT DEBT RATE THERE, IF THAT DEBT RATE WERE TO INCREASE BY THE 1 CENT THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED, OR I, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE AMOUNT WAS MORE THAN THAT ACTUALLY.
UH, IN THE, IN THE ACTUAL, YEAH, ACTUAL, UH, AMOUNT
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IS PROBABLY 2 CENTS.YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, BRIANNA, OR IT WAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES.
AND THAT INCLUDES, IT DIDN'T INCLUDE, IT DIDN'T INCREASE AS MUCH AS IT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE, BUT WERE USING PART OF FUND BALANCE FOR I TO DRAW DOWN THAT RATE.
SO THE RATE WE HAVE IN THERE TO GENERATE WHAT WE NEED WITH USING FUND BALANCE IS ONE AND HALF OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO IF WE WERE TO INCREASE INS RATE BY THE 2 CENTS, UH, IT, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, THAT WOULD BRING IN, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, OH $4.8 MILLION.
AND I'M LOOKING UP THERE AT THE M AND O RATE FROM, FROM THE PROJECTED REVENUE AT THE NONI REVENUE RATE OF 43,000,008 80 TO A NO, TO A RATE OF, UH, 48, UH, AN AMOUNT OF 48,000,006 19.
THOSE NUMBERS CORRECT? IT'S FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR PRINTOUT HERE TODAY.
THAT BEEN THE NEXT COLUMN INCREASED DECREASE YES.
SO OVER LAST YEAR IT'S ABOUT 2.6, BUT THE FOUR IS OVER WHERE IT'S AT THE REVENUE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE HOLE.
THE 4.7 INCREMENTALLY, YOU'RE INCREASING BY THAT MUCH OVER THE NO REVENUE, BUT YES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 2.6 OVER LAST YEAR.
WHICH I THINK OVERALL IS WE LOOK AT NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, A NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR GENERAL FUND IS ABOUT 2.3.
SO THE MAJORITY OF ALL OF THAT WOULD BE NEW CONSTRUCTION IF YOU WEREN'T PUTTING IT
SO LET ME ASK AGAIN, THE, THE 2 CENTS, THE 2 CENTS TO INS WOULD GENERATE HOW MUCH MORE MONEY? 4.7.
BUT OVER LAST IN, IN TOTAL, OVER LAST YEAR, YOU, AGAIN, MOST ALL OF THAT WOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION AND YOU'RE ABLE TO USE IT
THE REASON I, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, AND THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP THIS MORNING IS THAT THAT'S VOTER APPROVED.
THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS SAID, THAT WE WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES TO PASS THIS TRANSPORTATION BOND.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT UP AS, AS A SOLUTION HERE TO OUR ISSUE.
'CAUSE THIS, THIS HAS BEEN VOTER APPROVED ALREADY.
UH, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HOLD THE LINE ON WHERE WE ARE, BUT WE CAN'T HOLD THE LINE ON WHERE WE ARE AND PAY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL BOND PACKAGE THAT GOT BROUGHT IN.
JUDGE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M, THAT'S WHERE I'M WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE HERE.
EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOWS THAT I'M NOT FOR NEW TAXES OR MORE TAXES, I'M FOR LESS TAXES.
AND, UH, HOWEVER, IN THIS SITUATION, IF WE DON'T MAKE A CHANGE HERE AND, AND, AND GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THIS VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE, THEN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, I DON'T SEE AN END TO OUR ISSUE.
IN FACT, UH, IF WE DON'T GENERATE SOME MORE MONEY THIS YEAR, WELL, LET ME ADD AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S VOTER APPROVED.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT US FIVE SITTING HERE SAYING THAT IT'S, IT'S SAYING THAT THE VOTERS OF PARKER COUNTY AGREED THAT WE NEED THAT TRANSPORTATION.
WE NEED TO PAY FOR IT THROUGH, THROUGH TAX DOLLARS.
WELL, LET ME ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE, UM, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO OFF AGENDA BECAUSE IT, IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IS THAT WE HISTORICALLY BEEN ON A SEVEN YEAR CYCLE SINCE 2008 ON GOING OUT FOR A TRANSPORTATION BOND THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, UM, FOR A, UH, A SHORTER INTERIM PERIOD, UH, IN DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION IN PARKER COUNTY.
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UH, THERE WILL BE A FUTURE BOND MUCH QUICKER THAN SEVEN YEARS.UH, THE KEY OF THIS IS, I THINK WITH THE VOTERS THAT WE HAVE AND ESTABLISHED A GREAT DEAL BECAUSE OF THE PAST HISTORY AND PAST LEADERSHIP OF THIS, THIS COURT THAT, UH, WE'VE COME UNDER BUDGET, WE'VE DEALT DONE ALL THESE THINGS AND WE'VE NOT PASSED THAT ON IN THE HISTORICALLY TO.
SO TO YOUR POINT, UH, HERE'S KIND OF WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.
I MEAN, WE'RE FACED WITH A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN SOLVE THIS BY SOME FUND BALANCE, UH, BEING TAKEN THAT WE CAN, CAN BE PRUDENT.
IT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR BOND RATING.
UH, THE VOTER DID APPROVE THIS AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID WHEN THEY VOTED FOR IT, AND THEY KNOW.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIBILITY WHEN WE GO BACK TO THEM AGAIN AND DEAL WITH IT, WHICH IS GONNA BE COMING UP QUICKLY.
UH, SO TO YOUR POINT, I, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO ABSORB IT LIKE WE HAVE BEEN, UH, THIS IS A SITUATION NOW, IT'S JUST, UH, TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE GROWTH AND, AND, AND, AND SPECIFICALLY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WHAT IT IS.
UH, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY A PRUDENT THING AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL MORNING.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU, YOU, YOU REFERENCED 2 CENTS.
WHICH BRINGS US STILL STILL TAKING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FROM
WELL, IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE A CHUNK OUT OF IT.
WELL, BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WE COULD PROCEED WITH THAT ASSUMPTION, THEN IT, IT MAKES THE, THE END RESULT CLEARER FOR ME, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, WE CAN SPEND SOME MORE MONEY HERE BECAUSE OF, OF US DOING THAT.
AND THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT US VOTING FOR A TAX INCREASE.
THIS IS, THIS IS US HAVING TO PASS ALONG THE TAX INCREASE THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED.
BECAUSE I, I, AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE THAT WE RAISED TAXES LAST YEAR AND NOT, NOT A LOT, BUT WE DID RAISE TAXES.
UH, THE BUDGET THAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS IN A, IN A, IN A POSITIVE, OPTIMISTIC, UH, NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
UH, IF WE DID DO THAT, UH, AND UTILIZE SOME, SOME FUND BALANCE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THIS AND, AND BEING LESS IMPACT ON THE VOTER AS FAR AS THE OTHER PARTS AND THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THIS BUDGET IS, BUT IT DOES HELP SOLVE AND TAKES A CHUNK OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS VOTER APPROVED.
IS THERE ANY ACTION ON THIS THAT, THAT WE WELL, UM, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, I WE CAN, I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE ON THIS NOW IF YOU, IF THE GROUP ALREADY.
I I THINK IT'S, I I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, I'M, I'M VERY RELUCTANT BECAUSE, BUT AGAIN, YOU SAID IT BEST.
IT'S, IT WAS VOTER APPROVED AND, UH, IF WE UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS, UH, BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION IN THIS COUNTY IS, IS NOT SOLVED, UH, THAT WAS PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO'S COMING QUICKLY.
UM, THE VOTER KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
IF YOU GET ON I 20 AND, AND YOU KNOW THAT THE GROWTH AND WHAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH, I THINK THAT THEY CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE TRANSPARENCY OF IT IS, WAS VERY CLEAR WHERE THERE WERE 30 TOWN HALL MEETINGS, KNOWING WHAT WE HOPEFULLY WILL TRY TO ABSORB IT.
IF WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PROMISE THAT AND WE, AND WE CAN'T.
SO, UH, TO THAT, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE 2 CENTS.
THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY MOVE.
THERE MAY BE SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE YOU NEED IN THERE.
IS THERE, UM, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO DO A VOTE ALSO ON ROAD THAT, SO ALL THREE, SO DEBT SERVICE.
SO REALLY, REALLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT WE WANT TO CHANGE IS THE DEBT RATE, THE INS.
RIGHT? I'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED BECAUSE IT'S THE REQUIREMENT TO MEET THAT DEBT SERVICE.
SO IT, IT'S YOUR TOTAL, BASICALLY YOUR GENERAL ONE COVER.
I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S INS, THAT IT GOES TO INS.
BECAUSE OF THE VOTER APPROVAL OF THE INCREASE OF THE 2 CENTS THERE.
COMMISSIONER COLLIN, CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC WITH YOUR MOTION, WHAT YOUR MOTION IS?
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WE, UH, SEE, I MOVE THAT WE GO TO THE 0.2% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THE I, UH, FOR THE INA THAT SERVICE.BRIANNA, YOU WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON THERE? OR I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, FOR M AND O YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A TAX RATE OF 0.1 8 5 2 6 2 1 8 5.
AND THEN FOR YOUR INS DEBT RATE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A RATE OF 0.0 6 0 6, 7 6.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON ROAD AND BRIDGE, UNLESS YOU PLAN TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, IT ALL HAS TO BE DONE TODAY, BUT WELL, WE, IT WOULD BE IN A SEPARATE WHEN.
SO THOSE WERE TWO SEPARATE THOUGH.
AND THEN WE'LL SAY A TOTAL TAX RATE.
WE NEED SEPARATE, WE'LL, WE'LL DO EACH SEPARATE.
AND THEN JUST FOR THE NOTIFICATION, IT'S A TOTAL TAX RATE OF, THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS MOTION IS THE INS, THE, THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE M AND O.
IS THERE ANY, I NEED A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.
SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
UH, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE VOTE? UM, THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR HERE ON WHERE WE ARE SO FAR, PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE VERSUS THE, THIS 2 CENTS ON THE INS DOWN THE ESTIMATED REVENUE.
DO YOU KNOW A NET NUMBER ON THAT FUND WHERE THAT PUTS US? SO FROM MY SHEET OF WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, I THINK WE'VE APPROVED ANYTHING TODAY,
SO ON MY SHEET WE WERE GONNA USE 6.8 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE, BUT AGAIN, THIS GENERATES 4.7, SO THE NET DIFFERENCE WOULD BE ABOUT 2.1 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON TOP OF OUR NUMBERS AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND JUST TO PULL BACK TO A HIGH LEVEL, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY APPROVING THIS RATE FORMALLY.
AND FINALLY TODAY WE'RE SETTING THE CEILING.
THIS IS A CEILING THAT WE'RE SETTING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING ONLINE.
THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS NOT TO FORMALLY ADOPT A TAX RATE THAT WILL ACTUALLY APPLY.
THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS TO SET THE MAXIMUM CEILING OF WHAT THE TAX RATE CAN BE AFTER WE THEN WORK THROUGH THE REST OF OUR WORKSHOP.
WE'LL THEN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL THEN FORMALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET, AND THEN AT A LATER TIME, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I'M SURE CYNTHIA COULD GET IT.
WE WILL ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE ACTUAL TAX RATE AT A LATER MEETING.
SO WHAT IT'LL BE IS TODAY IS A VOTE ON THE PROPOSED, LIKE YOU SAID, IT SETS A CEILING SO THAT WAY WE CAN DO THE PUBLICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER, UM, NAMING WHAT THE PROPOSED RATE IS, THE TIME AND PLACE AND LOCATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT WHICH WE HAVE IT ON THE SCHEDULE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 18TH AT 9:00 AM YES.
UM, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ADOPTING THE BUDGET TILL SEPTEMBER 23RD AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE RATE WILL NOT BE SET AND VOTED ON.
UM, IF YOU DON'T SET A TAX RATE AT A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE TO SET THAT RATE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING, OR YOU HAVE TO START OVER.
SO, UM, THE TAX RATE THEN WOULD BE SET AT THE SEPTEMBER 23RD REGULAR COMMISSIONER COURTS MEETING WHEN THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HOLD ON IN FAVOR.
BILL, THE ONLY OTHER PIECE WE NEED TO DISCUSS IS THE ROAD AND BRIDGE RATE.
AND AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO COME BACK TO
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THAT, WE WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL THIS MEETING IS OVER, UM, GETTING WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO GENERATE THAT NOTICE FOR US FOR THE NEWSPAPER.SO IF YOU GUYS WANNA DO THAT NOW, UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT SOMETIME LATER TODAY, AGAIN, IT JUST HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.
DO WE WANNA HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? DO WE WANNA OPEN THAT ITEM? WELL, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SHEET THERE,
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN, UH, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND WHEREVER ELSE WE GO ABOVE THAT, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE, UH, ROAD BRIDGE TAX RATE OF 0.0 5 3 3 0 0.
MOTION, BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
SO THAT WOULD BE, RIGHT NOW, WHERE I'M SHOWING IS A TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.2 9 9 2 3 8.
AND WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR? IT WAS 0.2 8 7 0 9 8.
SO IT'S LESS THAN ONE AND A HALF CENTS.
SO EVEN LESS THAN WHAT THE INCREASE FOR, UM, DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE OVER LAST YEAR.
SO THE CURRENT WOULD BE 0.2 9 9 2 3 8.
AND LAST YEAR WAS 2 8 7 WHAT? OH 9 8 0 9 8.
LESS THAN ONE AND A HALF CENTS.
AND AGAIN, WE HAD SHOWED THAT, UM, THE INCREASE JUST ON THE DEBT SERVICE WAS, I WANNA SAY I SAID ONE AND A HALF CENTS.
WE'RE ON LOADING BRIDGE NOW, UH, LAST YEAR AND FOR SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE BEEN, UH, TAKING MONEY FROM FUND BALANCE GENERAL FUND AND APPLYING IT TO ROAD AND BRIDGE.
THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS MONEY TAKEN FROM ROAD AND BRIDGES FUND BALANCE.
WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE THAT ARE, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE THAT, THAT WE PERHAPS DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR? WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS, YEAH, SO THERE'S, UM, EACH, BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST ALLOCATION ON THOSE PASS THROUGH FUNDS FROM THE OLD BOND RICK WILLIAMSON, UM, THERE'S 1,750,000 FOR EACH PRECINCT.
UM, AGAIN, THERE'S, FOR WHOEVER HASN'T SPENT THEIR ARPA FUNDS, IT'S COMPLETING THOSE ARPA FUNDS.
UM, AGAIN, WITH THE NEW BOND, THERE'S NEW DISCRETIONARY FUNDING.
I GET ALL THAT, BUT ON TOP OF WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.
UM, SO THE, THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS WE, WE'VE HAD A, A CHANGE IN CHANGE IN THE PRECINCT BOUNDARIES.
AND SO THAT'S ADVERSELY AFFECTED, UH, SOME OF THE PRECINCTS.
AND, UH, I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, A METHODOLOGY OF, YOU KNOW, HOLDING THAT, HOLDING THAT, UH, HARMLESS TO THEM.
AND, UH, UM, WE, WE HAVE THE MONEY, THE DISCRETIONARY MONEY FROM THE BONDS.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THERE THAT WE HAD THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD IN THE PAST.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A TRANSFER OF 500,000 TO ONE AND THREE LAST, I'M SORRY, TO ONE AND FOUR LAST YEAR EACH.
NO, YOU GUYS TOOK A, I COULD LOOK.
I THINK YOU GUYS TOOK A MILLION FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE AND DIVIDED IT EQUALLY IN THE END.
UM, AND THEN WHAT I'VE GIVEN YOU, WHICH THIS, OKAY, SO THIS ONE I GAVE YOU THIS MORNING SHOWS LIKE THE CURRENT FORMULA, AND THEN AGAIN, IT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS OVER LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS, UM, TAKING AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GUYS JUST PROPOSED, THAT REVENUE, WHICH OVER LAST YEAR IT'S 350,000.
AND THEN TAKING, IF YOU GUYS TOOK A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND BALANCE AND DIVIDED THAT EQUALLY, AGAIN, I JUST DID IT FOR A SCENARIO OF WHAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR.
UM, EACH OF YOU WOULD STILL RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS OVER LAST YEAR'S ALLOCATION.
SO IT'D BE ABOUT 1.3, OR, SORRY, ONE POINT, 1.1 MILLION A LITTLE OVER THAT.
I GET IT FROM ROAD, ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND BALANCE.
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E EACH HAVE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS? YES.YOU ALL EACH HAVE INDIVIDUAL, UM, FUND BALANCES FOR, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
BUT IN ACTUAL ROAD AND BRIDGE, WHEN WE, THERE'S A FUND BALANCE SET, THE ALLOCATION, WE'RE STILL PROJECTING REVENUE.
UM, YOU COULD SEE THAT THERE ON OUR CURRENT PROPERTY TAXES.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN A COLLECTION RATE, WHICH IS 98.75%.
AND THEN DELINQUENT TAXES, UH, WE GET A STATE GRANT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
LAST YEAR IT, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 78,000.
LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE AGAIN WHERE THEY'RE JUST EXTRA FUNDS.
SO I HAVE 80,000 THAT'S, THAT'S THE GRANT GRANT MONEY FOR FROM THE LEGISLATURE.
UH, IT'S THE LATERAL, I DON'T LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.
WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING? WHETHER WE'RE GETTING PAID BACK? WE'RE WE'RE RECOVERING FROM THE STATE.
ARE WE, WE OUT OF THAT MONEY? OH, THE C TIFF MONEY.
THAT'S ONE THING WE SHOULD ALL PROBABLY HAVE EXPENDED THAT BY NOW, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PASS THROUGH MONEY COMING BACK.
WHERE'S THAT MONEY GOING THAT, THAT'S SITTING THERE IN A CONTINGENCY LINE FOR ALL OF YOU? OKAY.
THAT'S TO SPEND ON TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
WE'RE GETTING, WE'VE GOT THAT RIGHT NOW OR YES.
AND, AND WE ANNUALLY ARE GETTING MORE MONEY.
SO, UH, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AT THIS POINT.
IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THREE YEARS AGO.
SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID OUT OVER I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS.
AND SO THEN THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT TO PAY IT ALL AT ONCE.
AND SO THE INCREMENTAL AMOUNT IS BASICALLY INTEREST THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE EARNING.
AND SO I THINK LAST YEAR WE HAD IT AT, I THINK IT WAS 1.5 MILLION, BUT THEN IN LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE HAD IN INTEREST AND EVERYTHING, THEN I DIVIDED A PORTION OF THAT INTEREST TO HAVE IT WHERE I THINK IN THE BUDGET, I HAVE IT AS ONE 1,000,750 FOR EACH PRECINCT.
THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A, UM, CONTINGENCY THAT I THINK YOU GUYS VOTED ON EARLIER THIS YEAR.
THERE WAS A TRANSFER FROM 4 0 8.
SO THE OLD BOND TO THE NEW BOND, UHHUH
SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU ALL VOTED TO SPLIT THOSE FUNDS, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW ANY PRECINCT THAT COULDN'T USE THAT PASS THROUGH MONEY RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE TOLD YOU, TOLD YOU GUYS BEFORE, IS JUST LET ME KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE IT INTO THE, TO THE LINES.
WHY CAN'T WE JUST MOVE IT INTO THE LINES WHERE WE NEED IT? WELL, YOU CAN, BUT WE NEED TO SPEND IT OUT OF THAT FUND VERSUS MOVING IT TO A SEPARATE FUND.
SO I'LL ASK THE, I'LL ASK THE GROUP HERE.
WOULD YOU WANT TO SUBMIT PROJECTS TO UTILIZE THAT, UH, 1.7, WHICH IS SITTING THERE, UH, IN YOUR PRECINCT RIGHT NOW? OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IT SITTING THERE AND THEN YOU SUBMIT AS WE GO ALONG DURING THE YEAR? WHICH WOULD, WHICH DO YOU WANT? I HAVE PROJECTS.
I CAN, YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO ME, I CAN PUT IT INTO THE LINES.
THE REASON WHY WE PUT IT INTO LINES IS BECAUSE FOR, UM, CAPITALIZATION PURPOSES AND ALSO, I MEAN, TO TRACK THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WHEN WE DO THAT ARE MAN HOURS AND EQUIPMENT, HOURS, MAINTENANCE COSTS, ET CETERA.
ARE THOSE INCLUDED OR ARE WE TALKING MATERIALS ON? WE'RE TALKING MATERIALS, YES.
BASICALLY IT'S KIND OF HOW WE TREAT THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, RIGHT? Y'ALL WILL SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO MOVE THIS MUCH INTO WHATEVER ROAD PROJECT AND THEN I CREATE THAT GL ACCOUNT AND WE MOVE THE BUDGET MISSING.
SO WE'LL LEAVE IN CONTINGENCY, THEN WE CAN TAKE IT OUT AS WE NEED.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO MOVE IT INTO THE LINE.
BUT IF COURT AGREES THAT WE CAN DO THAT OUTSIDE OF COURT AND THEN SUBMIT THOSE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS AFTER THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS I'D ASK THE WHAT THE GROUP, WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS, IF WE CAN, IF YOU CAN SPEND THAT ON PROJECTS AGAIN FOR MATERIALS.
THEN, UH, YOU WANNA LEAVE IT IN CONTINGENCY OR YOU WANNA MOVE IT OVER TO YOUR BUDGET? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG FOR YOU.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT IN THE, IN THAT FUND.
IT'S JUST THAT GIVING ME THE PROJECTS SO I CAN CREATE GL ACCOUNTS WITHIN THAT FUND, WHICH YOU READY TO DO.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO THAT WOULD BE JUST THE PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNTS.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING THEN, IF, IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE EVERYBODY GOING BY THE, THE LAST YEAR'S ALLOCATION.
EVERYBODY'S AT LEAST 1.89 MILLION
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ABOVE LAST YEAR'S FIGURES.AND THEN YOU'LL ALL JUST HAVE TO, LIKE IN THIS, I GAVE YOU BOTH SCENARIOS.
I DIDN'T REPRINT THE FIRST ONE.
YOU'RE MUDDYING THE WATER, BUT IF YOU WANT TO USE ANY OF YEAH.
UM, FUND FIFTIES FUND BALANCE, THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE.
IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN IT WOULD BE WHERE IT SAYS THIS COLUMN, TOTAL RID TOTAL ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION.
BEFORE THIS PIECE, IT WOULD BE THE 17.2 MILLION.
AGAIN, IF YOU USE A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ROAD AND BRIDGES FUND BALANCE, IT'D BE THE 18.2.
AND SO I DIVIDED THAT 1 MILLION EQUALLY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DID LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE USED THAT SAME SCENARIO THERE WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS 1.7 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
UH, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SUBMIT THE PROJECTS, THEY'RE GONNA USE THAT ON.
AND JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE'RE USING A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND BALANCE.
DID YOU GET THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECONDMENT COMMISSIONER CONLEY? YOU, YOU HAVE THE MOTION.
ANY OF DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIE'S FIVE.
[I.E. IT Projects & Budget Requests Update. (Kim Rivas / James Caywood / Judge Deen)]
E, IT PROJECTS AND BUDGET REQUESTS UPDATES, UM, JAMES HAD A MEETING HE HAD TO GO TO.ABRAHAM'S GONNA, UM, SPEAK ON THAT.
SO, SO FAR, UH, THE ONLY THINGS Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED ARE THE, UH, IT CONT CONTINGENCY FOR $40,000 AS WELL AS THE, UH, JVP PANIC BUTTON SYSTEM FOR $14,264 AND 73 CENTS.
UH, APART FROM THAT, THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER CHANGES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? GREG ABRAHAM? TAKE A SECOND.
WHAT ABOUT THAT 4 0 5? THE WHAT? UM, LOOKING AT THAT SHEET.
SEEING THAT SHEET SHEET THAT YOU'RE HOLDING UP, KIM? SO KEN, I'M MEAN THE SMALL ONE? YEAH, THAT 405,000 IT RELATED EXPENSES.
WELL, SHE HAD THAT LARGER SHEET OUT AND THEN,
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SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE THESE HERE.BUT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON ALL OF IT, CORRECT? YEAH, BECAUSE I'M SHOWING UP THAT 4 0 5.
NONE OF THAT'S BEEN APPROVED EITHER.
SO IT WOULD, IT'D BE THE COMBO OF THE TWO, LIKE 1.69.
THESE ARE ALL, ITS, I THINK THESE ARE ALL ELECTRONIC.
I THINK THIS IS ALL IT FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
YEAH, I BELIEVE, I'LL TELL YOU RELATED, I BELIEVE, YEAH, I RELATED.
MINE WAS STUCK BEHIND THAT ONE, SO I COULDN'T FIND IT.
KIM, WHAT SHEET DO YOU HAVE THERE? THAT, IS IT THE ONE WITH THE YELLOW STRIPE? YES.
BUT ON THAT, THAT BLUE SPREAD SHEET RIGHT HERE? YES MA'AM.
SO SOME OF THAT, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING ON THAT BACK PAGE BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS A DETAIL OF WHAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS REQUESTED.
BUT ON THE VERY PAGE WE TOOK ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AND DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT HAS THE PLEX AND THE LAPTOPS AND STUFF, BUT THESE NUMBERS HERE ARE BULK ORDER FOR EACH DEPARTMENT SUMMARY FROM THE SHEET.
BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE CAMERA PROJECT FOR THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH I'VE ALREADY APPROVED, LIKE THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNTS THAT IT HAS REQUESTED FOR 5 82 ALONE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY
YEAH, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT NEED PRICING, I GUESS, OR PRICING UPDATES.
DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE LIKE ON THE CURVE MONITORS? I BELIEVE THAT WAS GONNA GO IN DISPATCH MAYBE? YES, SIR.
WHENEVER I WENT TO THAT FACILITY.
I THINK IT'S LISTED AS THE 32 INCH MONITORS.
IT SAYS 52 INCH ON THE THIRD SHEET.
THE, THE ONE THAT'S YELLOW ONE THAT'S BLANK.
YEAH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A NUMBER.
DID Y'ALL WANT TO GO TO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT OF DETAIL ON IT? YEP, YOU DO? 'CAUSE MY LIST DOESN'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.
OH, SO YOUR NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED, BUT YOU, WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THIS FROM THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WEREN'T CHANGED THAT.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE THOUGH, THAT WE, WE WENT THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT TO GET RIGHT.
THEN WE NEED TO GO OFF THIS LIST.
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OKAY.IT'S GOT THE TOTALS AND EVERYTHING.
YES, IT IS TINY, BUT I THINK I CAN GET IT.
UH, OKAY, SO WE CAN GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.
WE CAN START WITH THE, UH, COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
UH, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, ONE OPTIPLEX 70 20 DESKTOP, UH, A LATITUDE NON RUGGED OR TWO LATITUDE NON RUGGED LAPTOPS.
DELL UNIVERSAL DOCKING STATION, TWO SURFACE QUOTE OR TWO SURFACE PRO TABLETS, A LAPTOP SCREEN EXTENDER FOR A TOTAL OF $6,574.
JUDGE, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR, WELL, SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH JAMES ON, UM, YES.
AND THIS IS SOME OF THE NEEDS.
I, I I, TO BE CLEAR WITH THIS, THIS IS THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND SOME REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY.
IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE WE, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING OUT AND SHOPPING IN A CATALOG HERE AND, UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE AND, UM, GET, I GUESS COME UP TO THIS GENERATION OF TECHNOLOGY OF COMPUTERS.
AND SO YEAH, I MEAN THESE, THESE ARE NECESSITIES TO OUR OFFICE.
A LOT OF IT'S BASICALLY GETTING EVERYTHING UPGRADED TO, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT CAN RUN WINDOWS 11.
AND A LOT OF OUR OLDER YEAH, WE COMPUTERS AND LAPTOPS CAN'T, WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING OUT AND BUYING APPLE LAPTOPS.
SO YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION ABOUT COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SO WHENEVER YOU DO THIS, ARE THESE THE OLD ONES, DO THEY GO BACK INTO SERVICE OR IN THE ROTATION? NO, WE, WE SURPLUS THEM.
AND IF, IF, IF IT WON'T RUN THE SOFTWARE THAT WE NEEDED TO, THE OPERATING SYSTEMS THAT WE NEEDED TO, THERE'S COMMISSIONER THAT'S EQUIP NOT REALLY ANYWHERE ELSE WE COULD USE IT.
COMMISSIONER, IT'S, IS EQUIPMENT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME? YES, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S NOT THE VALUE OF ITS, SO YEAH, THIS IS, THESE ARE BASICALLY LIKE EVERYTHING OVER ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 6,000.
6,000, UH, 6,574 FOR A COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
AGAIN, THIS IS NECESSARY AND, AND DISCUSSION WITH JAMES ON WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR THE OFFICE.
AND WE, WE HAD MET WITH EACH DEPARTMENT TO GO OVER WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, UH, TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
AND THERE'LL BE AN OFFSET OF THAT WITH THE NUMBER OF SERVICE CALLS THAT WE CONTINUE TO DRIVE YOU ALL NUTS ON.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL GO DOWN.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THAT? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE? FIVE L.
NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, COUNTY CLERKS, UH, RECORDS AND DEEDS DEPARTMENT.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE, UH, OPTIPLEX, 70 20 DESKTOPS, THREE NON RUGGED LAPTOPS, AND THREE, UH, FUJITSU SCANNERS DOCUMENT SCANNERS, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF $13,958.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK COURTS DIVISION.
THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, 1 70 20 DESKTOP, THREE NON RUGGED LAPTOPS, 14 FUJITSU SCANNERS.
UH, 24, UH, 24 INCH DE MONITORS.
WHICH ONE? THE 24 MONITORS? YEAH.
HOW MANY SCANNERS DID YOU SAY? UH, 14.
IS THIS REPLACEMENT OF THE SCANNERS? YES, SIR.
UM, A LOT OF THE REASON IS TOO, LIKE THERE'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF HP SCANNERS IN THERE, WHICH, UH, TYLER DOES NOT SUPPORT.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES SCANNING INTO NAVIGATOR.
AND SO RICOH IS BASICALLY THE ONLY DECENT SCANNER THAT THEY RECOMMEND THAT WILL WORK WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
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SOFTWARE PROGRAM, SORRY, THE TRUST OR, UH, NAVIGATOR.SO THE, THE OSS OH, THE NAVIGATOR.
NAVIGATOR PROGRAM THOUGHT MAY IT WAS THE ONE, THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM WE DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY.
MAYBE WE USE THAT NEGOTIATION WITH, SO ALL THIS IT STUFF, Y'ALL CHECKED OUT EVERYTHING THAT YES, SIR.
WE WENT THERE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO ALL THIS STUFF.
YEAH, THIS IS ALL STUFF THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET UPGRADED.
WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THESE ARE NOT, DO WE NEED, DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE OR CAN WE JUST DO THE WHOLE DEAL? I MEAN, YEAH, WELL SEE, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THESE, THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN BY THE IT DEPARTMENT TO, TO IMPROVE THE FUNCTIONALITY AND, AND SO YES SIR.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE.
DO WE ALL THESE ON ALL THREE SHEETS.
UH, IS ALL RIGHT, KIM? YES, SIR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY, BUT THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE SAME THING ON EVERY ONE OF THEM.
WE WERE ABLE TO SCRUTINIZE YOURS, SO THAT'S ALL WE CARRIED.
I'LL REMEMBER THAT ON THE COFFEE.
ABRAHAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UH, BELIEVE SO.
WAS THAT ALL OF THE, I THINK THAT WAS JUST NON, SO DIFFERENT SPREADSHEET.
SO WE HAVE THE MAIN COURTHOUSE CAMERA PROJECT FOR, UH, MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER NUMBER HERE.
I HAVE KIM, I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
FOR HOW MUCH WAS THAT TOTAL? ALMOST THREE SHEETS.
THE BACK HERE, UH, CAMERA PROJECT THREE.
IS IT THE 900,000? NO, BECAUSE I HAVE THE NINE 20,000.
SO WE HAVE THE, UH, MAIN COURTHOUSE CAMERA PROJECT FOR $923,221 AND 42 CENTS.
AND BASICALLY THAT IS TO REPLACE, UH, ALL THE CAMERAS AND ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, A LOT OF PLACES ARE STILL USING THESE, JUST OLD CHINESE DVRS THAT DON'T HAVE VERY GOOD RECORDING ON THERE.
AND IT IS A PAIN IN THE BUTT TO PULL THE RECORDING OFF OF THERE, AS I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY THIS WOULD BE GETTING, AGAIN, EVERYTHING MODERNIZED AND BETTER SECURITY COVERAGE ALL AROUND.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AGAIN? UH, I HAVE $923,221 AND 42 CENTS.
THAT INCLUDES THE DOOR ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM AS WELL.
AND THIS WAS THE, THIS IS THE SYSTEM OR WHAT YOU ALL CAME UP WITH ON YOUR NEEDS? YES, SIR.
AFTER SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAD THIS YEAR? YES, SIR.
THIS IS AS BEST, WHICH I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, I KNOW THAT SECURITY AND THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE EVERY DAY MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.
SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO SUPPORT THIS.
COMMISSIONER HILL HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
JUST KEEP IN MIND TOO, ALSO THE SECURITY ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND SO YEAH, THAT KIND OF TIES INTO THAT WITH RELIANCE ON OTHER BUSINESSES WHEN THINGS IMPACT US.
SO THIS IS A NECESSITY THAT WE HAD TO DO FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.
AND SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH, EXTENSION.
THEN WE HAVE OUR, OUR, I USUALLY ASK THIS QUESTION ABOUT THIS POINT IN TIME.
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PROGRESSING ALONG VERY WELL HERE.UM, BUT JUST, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, THE THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE LEFT FOR MAKING CHANGES TO OUR BUDGET.
WELL, I MEAN, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY TODAY THE, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET THROUGH.
UM, WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE CALENDAR NEXT WEEK, BUT IF WE DON'T FINISH TODAY, I I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WE HAVE SOMETHING NEXT WEEK.
YEAH, I, I WAS JUST, AND FOR CLEANUP, I WAS, I WAS POINTING THAT OUT SO THAT WE, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME TIME.
HOWEVER, WE NEED TO BE, UH, MINDFUL THAT WE NEED TO GET AS MUCH DONE AS WE CAN TODAY.
THIS DAY MIGHT HAVE SAID, USUALLY IT'S ONCE THINGS ARE APPROVED, WE'RE PUTTING IT IN SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAYROLL AND BENEFITS DISPUTE.
SO IF WE GOT ALL OF THAT DONE TODAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE DON'T, ALL RIGHT.
I ALSO HAVE, UH, OUR CONTRACT SERVICES TOTAL, WHICH IS, UH, $2,224,547 AND 79 CENTS.
I THINK THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE IN THE BUDGET.
AS LONG AS THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES FROM WHAT THE JUDGES PROPOSED.
AND THE INCREASE, IF YOU RECALL, IS BECAUSE, UM, THE MOTOROLA SERVICE AGREEMENT AS WELL AS TOWERS WERE MOVING FROM, UM, C TO IT.
AND OF COURSE, SORT CONTRACT, THEY HAVE THE REGULAR INCREASES.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER ADDITION? I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL.
UM, AND THEN ALSO HAVE IN OUR, UH, CAP LINE THAT WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING A NEW VEHICLE AS WELL, A CHEVY TRAX FOR A TOTAL OF $20,000 OR QUESTIONS ON THAT CONTINUE? IS THAT, IS THAT ALREADY? NO.
UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UM, UH, WAS THAT RADIO TOWER CAP CONTINGENCY PART OF THIS AS WELL THEN, OR NO? NO.
UH, SO AS, UH, PART OF OUR, UH, CAP REQUEST, UH, WE HAVE A 250,000 RADIO TOWER, UH, CAP CONTINGENCY IN THERE, UH, JUST AS PART OF THE RADIO PROJECT AND MAINTENANCE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE, AND GO AHEAD WITH THAT.
IF THERE'S ARPA, IF WE CAN IDENTIFY, I MEAN, AGAIN, ENCY, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE MOTOROLA CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE AND ENSURE THAT CHANGES FROM THE ADDITIONAL, ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD BE OUR OBLIGATION OF WHAT IS IN THAT CONTRACT SO WE CAN PAY FOR IT WITH OUR FUNDS.
AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL THAT WE NEED.
UM, AGAIN, THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THERE ARE RADIOS IN THE, THAT, UM, WILL GO OVER AGAIN IF FUNDS UTILIZE.
WHEN WILL WE KNOW IF WE CAN USE THE ARPA FUNDS? WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
I MEAN, I, I, I'LL I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT.
WE, WE HAVE A, A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS AND, UH, THE, THE LETTER'S GONNA GO OUT THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IDENTIFIED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE GONNA BE ALLOCATED, THEN WE'RE GONNA REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT SAYS THIS IS WHERE
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THEY'RE GOING TO GO.SO WE, WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO SEND ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK.
WE STILL HAVE, UM, ON JUST THE PARKER COUNTY SIDE FOR THE WATER, NEED ALL THAT FOR COUNTY WATER'S 2.7 MILLION THERE.
AND, AND WE ARE, WE'VE HIRED A ENGINEERING FIRM AND, UH, UH, WE NEED TO BE BRINGING A, UH, A REPORT BACK TO EVERYBODY AFTER THAT.
SO NOT, NOT THIS MONDAY, BUT THE NEXT COURT WE'LL HAVE A REPORT BACK ON WHERE THAT IS.
BUT WE'VE SELECTED THE ENGINEERING FIRM, BUT WE'VE NOT SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM YET TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED.
WELL, HOW DO, HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS TODAY? WE REALLY, WE REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND ARPA FUNDS UNLESS WE DON'T KNOW.
HOPEFULLY, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME EXCESS THERE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE, I MEAN THAT WATER CONTRACT OUTSIDE OF OUR BENEFICIARY, I DUNNO THAT WE WOULD I CAN'T IMAGINE STUDY.
NO, BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S MORE THAN A STUDY THOUGH.
IT'LL BE A LONG TERM CONTRACT THAT WE'LL BE SIGNING WITH THEM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT.
BUT THAT WON'T BE UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
SO CAN WE TAKE, I GUESS, TABLE THAT PART OF IT UNTIL WE KNOW, HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THE THING WILL BE IF YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE IT, APPROVE IT, AND WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE IT TO ARPA, DO THAT.
UNLESS IT'S, YOU'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT UNLESS IT'S WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE APPROACH TO APPROVE IT.
AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS PULL IT ONCE WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET ARPA FUNDS.
SO RECAP THE AMOUNTS AND THE, AND WHAT IT'S FOR.
UH, THE AMOUNT IS, UH, $250,000, UH, FOR RADIO TOWER CAP CONTINGENCY.
THAT'S IN CASE THE, UH, THE, THE WORK AT THE TOWERS IS GONNA COST MORE THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THE ROAD RADIO PROJECT, WHICH IS ALREADY PAID FOR FROM ARPA MONEY.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT WAS SUGGESTED TO BY I MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER VIN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIED VO.
WHEN DID YOU KNOW YOU WERE GONNA PRESENT THIS THIS MORNING?
GOOD, GOOD JOB BUILDING AND GROUNDS ITEM F, PROJECT BUDGET REQUEST.
UH, I KNOW A MARK WITH THE BUILDING OVER AT THE PD.
I MIGHT, ALL THIS PAPER, THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT IN JUST SO THAT IS THAT PARKING LOT WHEN YOU GET BACK UP THERE.
IS THAT THIS RES STRIPING WILL BE THE, THE NEW PART AND THE OLD PART.
THEY DIDN'T MENTION THAT WHEN I TALK, WHEN WE TALKED TO HIM, HE JUST MENTIONED THE NEW AREA.
THE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE ELECTIONS BUILDING, DIGGING THAT DIRT OUT AND REDO, PUTTING THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE.
AND THAT'S ALL THIS IS KNOCKING THE TREES DOWN AND RIGHT.
SO YOU DON'T THINK IT INCLUDES STRAPPING THE OTHER, STRAPPING THE REST OF THE PARKING? NO, SIR.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S A MIS IS THIS A MISSPELLING STEPPING? IS THAT IT SOUNDS, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND DROPPING.
BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE NEW PART.
THAT'S NOT FOR THE OLD THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
WELL, WE NEED TO FUND IT SO WE CAN GET IT DONE, SO.
I'M GONNA, WE FUND THAT PROJECT WITH $179,600 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE GO? THAT, THAT 8,000? I THINK I'D BE SURPRISED IF THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE STRIPING IN THE BACK.
HE, HE DIDN'T MENTION IT AND NOW IT'S DRAWING.
IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, SO
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I REALLY DON'T THINK IT DOES.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YOU'RE GONNA KEEP WORKING WITH HIM ON THIS? YES, SIR.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN FOR HIM.
YOU KNOW, HE'D BE HERE IF HE COULD.
UM, WELL I WASN'T GONNA GO DOWN THAT PATH, BUT YOU OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BUDGET.
ALL IN FAVOR? I I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, IF, IF, UH, IF SOME OF THE PRECINCTS ARE WILLING TO DO PART OF THIS WORK, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ASKED RATHER THAN BACKING OFF AND PAYING SOMEBODY $180,000 TO DO THIS COMPLETE JOB.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO BUDGET TO PAY THE MORE THAT'D BE GOOD.
WE'D LIKE PRECINCT THREE WOULD LIKE TO BID ON THE WORK.
DOES THAT INCLUDE STRIPING ON THE OLD PARKING LOT? WE DO OUR OWN STRIPING.
WE DO, WE DO OUR OWN STRAPPING.
UH, PLEASE VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE LOTS OF MONEY.
LAY DOWN MACHINE IF YOU WANNA WORK ON THE STRIPING MACHINE.
STRIPING MACHINE, UM, BUILDING GROUNDS HAD A REQUEST FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO USE AT THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
UH, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED IS A USED BACKHOE DOWN THERE.
AND, UH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, RATHER THAN THE $139,000, THEY REQUESTED FOR A, A NEW BACKHOE THAT WE ALLOCATE MAYBE 50,000 TO THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER AND HELP THEM SHOP FOR A USED BACKHOE TO DO THE BRUSH.
DO YOU HAVE A, ANY, ANY ONE OF US HAVE A, A USED ONE WE CAN JUST GIVE THEM OR NO, WE MIGHT COULD FIND ONE ON AT AUCTION.
AND I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF, IF SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, UH, MOVE THAT WE ADD, UH, AN AMOUNT FOR, UH, A USED BACKHOE FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIES FIVE.
OH, ARE WE STILL ON THE WE'RE ON BUILDING GROUNDS? WE ARE, YES.
SPECIFIC TO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS HE IS INCLUDED IN HIS BUILDING MAINTENANCE LINE.
UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE, THE PROJECTS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR SPECIFIC, UM, AREAS.
SO IN THE CCL, TWO COURTROOM OFFICES UPSTAIRS, UM, CARPET CLEANING, SHE'S REQUESTED FOR $2,000.
WHICH SHEET ARE YOU ON THERE? UH, I DIDN'T THIS, I JUST HAD THIS FOR MY OWN.
I CAN, DO YOU HAVE IT TO SEND A BRIDGE TO PRINT OUT? YEAH.
UM, IN THE CIVIL DEPARTMENT FOR THE DISTRICT CLERKS, SHE'S REQUESTED PAINTING OF THE WALLS, UM, WITH AN ESTIMATE OF $5,000.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S ON YOUR LIST? ON THIS WHOLE PAGE? SO THIS ALL TOTALS UP TO 614 OR SIX 14 AND $500.
BUT, AND SO POSSIBLY A PORTION OF THAT IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN HIS LINE? COULD BE, YEAH.
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE DISTRICT COURT ON THERE.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, I THINK FOR THE DISTRICT COURT.
YEAH, I HAVE DISTRICT COURTHOUSE AND HE TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE OUTSIDE BUILDING THAT 3000.
AND THEN THE DISPATCH EXPANSION, THEY'RE, THAT'S 150,000 FOR THE DISPATCH EXPANSION, AUTO EXPANSION.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE AUTO'S EXPANSION AND IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, THE SPRINGTOWN REMODEL EITHER
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YOUR TABLE IN THAT TABLE THAT OKAY.DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE WORK AT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON, ON WINDOW TENT RIGHT NOW AT THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BUILDING IS GONNA GET THAT TENT DONE BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH OR NOT.
UM, SO HOW MUCH DID HE INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET? I MEAN, I, I, I DIDN'T KNOW HE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE TODAY.
SO FOR BUILDING GROUND, UH, NOT BUILDING GROUNDS FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR
THINGS THAT COME UP DURING THE YEAR.
SO IF WE WERE TO COME UP WITH A FIGURE OF A NOT TO EXCEED, UH, AN AMOUNT AS KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER AND THEN BUILDING GROUNDS DIRECTOR COULD COME UP WITH HIS OWN PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE FUNDS, WOULD THAT BE REASONABLE? I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE PAST HAVEN'T BEEN NOTIFIED WHETHER OR NOT THEIR REQUESTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
AND SO IF, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO SPECIFICALLY APPROVE SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS OR IF IT'S JUST UP TO HIM.
SO OUR PROBLEM IS WE'RE SITTING HERE AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A, A BASIS FOR PRIORITIZING THOSE, RIGHT.
WE'RE HAVING TO PRIORITIZE EVERYTHING AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE AMOUNT TO BE SPENT, AND, UH, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, BRIANNA, DOES THAT INCLUDE THIS 2 29 THAT I HAVE ON MY SHEET FOR CAP, NON CAP OR FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS? NO, THAT'S, SO THEY HAVE REQUEST THAT'S JUST BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND I KNOW THE, A LOT OF THAT THAT COME UP.
AND THEN A LOT OF THE PROJECTS FROM THAT, UM, USUALLY IT'S ONLY LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED OUTSIDE OF THAT, LIKE IN THE CURRENT YEAR WAS THE, UM, THE HVAC PROJECT, THE, UM, ENGINEERING FOR THE STUDY ON THE EXPANSION, THE MODULAR BUILDING YEAH.
SO I, THAT'S WHY I SAW THE HVAC EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING SOME CLARIFICATION.
WHAT THAT LINE IS ON HIS REQUEST IS IF AN AIR CONDITIONER YEAH.
WE ALSO HAVE, WHICH IS ALREADY INCLUDED, JUST LIKE HVAC SUPPLIES, KIND OF REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON THE HVAC.
BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE REPLACING AN AIR CONDITIONER.
SO THAT, SO THAT, SO THAT'S LIKE A CONTINGENCY.
SO, SO, AND ALSO LIKE AT THE JAIL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE JAIL THAT'S MORE THAN $5,000, THEN THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS.
UM, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF OVER THERE.
INMATES WILL STUFF STUFF DOWN THE TOILETS.
I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE ALLOCATE A, A $500,000 AMOUNT TO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTLINED THERE AND, UH, LET, LET, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A FAIR THING THAT, THAT I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY FOR.
AND, UH, UH, THEN HE HAS TO HOT OFF PRESS.
SO THIS WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 365 THAT'S CURRENTLY IN HIS MAINTENANCE.
HE IS REQUESTING, I I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE 365.
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IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE WAS JUST KIND OF THE NORMAL, WELL I KNOW NORMALLY THE SMALLER PROJECTS HE FUNDS FROM THAT.I THINK IT'S USUALLY KIND OF ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH JUST, AGAIN, QUICKLY LOOKING AT THIS LIST, WHICH I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM.
I WOULD SAY, UM, IF THE DISPATCH EXPANSION OR DISTRICT COURTHOUSE, I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE OVER BEYOND.
AND JUST AS AN UPDATE ON THE, ON THE DISPATCH, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE TREASURY.
I THINK WE, THE RESPONSE IS BASICALLY THEY'RE OVERWHELMED WITH INQUIRIES, SO WE REALLY DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER AND THEY JUST SENT US KIND OF THE GUIDE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF TYING IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC EMERGENCY RESPONDING TO THAT.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF THE EXPANSION TO DISPATCH IS ALL TIED INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, RIGHT.
WE'RE DOING AN UPGRADE TO THE RADIO, OBVIOUSLY DISPATCH IS, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATED INTO ALL OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO ADD, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SPACE AND WORK STATIONS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I KNOW THEY'LL SAY ON SOME OF 'EM THAT THEY DON'T PRE-APPROVE PROJECTS.
IT'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE GUIDANCE AND UM, TYING IT TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF 'EM IS THAT THEY DO, UM, LIKE EOCS, THEY'LL FUND, I MEAN THEY SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THAT IS AN ALLOWED EXPENSE.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD TIE IT ALL INTO THE COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND RESPONDING.
YOU, YOU DIDN'T
AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST HERE AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THAT.
SO HE'S GONNA HAVE TO PRIORITIZE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? IF YOU REDUCE THAT 150,000 OUT OF ARPA, IT WOULD, WOULD IT DOWN TO AROUND THE 500,000? YEAH.
IF, AND, AND AGAIN, ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA NEED TO COME TO COURT BEFORE THEY'RE, BEFORE THEY'RE FUNDED.
AND UH, AND IF POSSIBLE, ANY OF THAT THAT COULD BE FUNDED FROM, UH, THE ARPA FUNDING WOULD HELP REDUCE THIS NUMBER AS WELL.
BUT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME, A NUMBER TO PUT IN THE BUDGET.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL ON PAPER CARRIES FIVE.
OH, GOOD PORTION OF THAT 614,000 WAS FOR REPAIRS AT PRECINCT FOUR, WHICH WE'VE NOT COME OUT OF THIS GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
YEAH, WE ALREADY, WE, SO THAT WOULD NOT BE AS PART OF THIS.
THAT SIX 14 WOULD BE REDUCED BY THOSE.
SO WHY'D THEY GET LISTED HERE THEN? I THINK IT WAS JUST ACCUMULATING ALL BUILDING GROUND PROJECT.
SO WHAT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET BOOK SINCE TIA PUT TOGETHER, SO THAT WAY YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT REQUEST FOR.
ARE WE TAKING IN CONSIDERATION ALSO ABOUT WHAT WE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE APPROVED IT YET, BUT I KNOW WE, WE'VE HEARD IT.
WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT THE AUTO RENOVATION TO THE KITCHEN SPACE ALREADY ALLOCATED.
SO, UH, WE ALLOCATED THAT SPACE.
AND SO IS THAT FACTOR IN THIS THAT DOES INCLUDE THAT? BECAUSE SO FAR, UM, WE'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 350 TO $500,000 ON THE UNOFFICIAL ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FOR, FOR THAT SPACE.
UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ESTIMATES WAS ALL THE WAY UP AT TO $800,000.
SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT ONE, BUT JENNY CAN COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT SPACE.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T GET AN OFFICIAL ESTIMATE FROM ANYONE WITHOUT GOING OUT FOR THAT.
BUT ANYWHERE FROM 350 TO 500 MOST RANGING CLOSER TO THE 500,000.
I MEAN, THERE ARE TWO WALLS THAT HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND SOME OTHERS PUT UP TO MAKE THAT SPACE WORKABLE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WAYS TO USE THAT AND ALSO GIVE PART OF THAT SPACE TO, UM, THE JP OFFICE SO THAT, LIKE BECKY SPOKE TO BEFORE, WHEN ELECTIONS MOVES OUT,
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TREASURER COULD MOVE.IT COULD GIVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS MORE SPACE.
I'M HOPING YOU FUND IT BECAUSE THE SPACE AS IS IS NOT VERY USEFUL TO US.
SO IT'D BENEFIT OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
WE WOULD NEED A LOOK, YOU KNOW, HAVING MARK FILL IT IN OF WHAT HE THINKS ON THIS LIST CAN BE APPROVED FOR JUST SOME OF THESE REQUEST ITEMS HE HAS.
IF THE DISPATCH WAS PAID FOR ARPA FUND, THAT LEAVES THE DISTRICT COURT, UM, ESTIMATE OF THE 300,000.
SO THEN YOU'D HAVE 200,000 TO GO TOWARDS THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HE HAS.
BUT, BUT GENERALLY IT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, THESE OTHER REQUESTS HE DOES WITH JUST THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE, IT'S LIKE THE DISTRICT COURT WOULD CLEARLY BE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
BRIANNA, YOU SAID THAT'D LEAVE 200,000.
WHAT? THAT WOULD LEAVE 200,000 FOR THAT PROJECT.
IF FROM THE ESTIMATE ON THE 300,000 FROM THE 500,000 THAT WAS APPROVED, THEN 200,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS THAT.
IF THE ONE 50 DISPATCH WAS APPROVED, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT OR IS THAT JUST AT HIS DISCRETION? I'M JUST GIVING YEAH, WE WOULD WE, WOULD WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT TODAY OR IS THAT AT MARK'S DESCRIPTION? WELL, WE, I I REALLY WISH HE WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE I MEAN, HOW MUCH CAN WE DO OF THIS TO MAYBE REDUCE THAT OR HOW MUCH CAN WE, UH, TO GO OUT? I MEAN, THEN YOU GOT THE 200,000 THAT'S POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE HERE.
UH, THAT CAN THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS GONNA SAY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD REQUEST OF HIM AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT NEXT WEEK.
AND AT LEAST ON THAT PIECE, I WOULD, WOULD, WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE HAVE CLEAN UP ANYHOW THING.
OR AT LEAST, I MEAN THE BUILDING AND GROUNDS PIECE OF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT FROM THAT LIST, WHAT CAN HE GET DONE IN THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE, WHAT ADDITIONAL IS HE ASKING FOR? AND THEN AGAIN, IF DISPATCH WERE PAID FOR ARPA FUNDS, WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IF YOU GUYS THEN PUT IT TOWARDS WHATEVER OTHER PROJECTS.
DID Y'ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THE AUTO REG REGISTRATION REMODEL? I THINK WE NEED MORE HERE TO DO THAT, DON'T WE? I I, I REALLY WISH I'D PREFER HIM TO BE HERE.
HASN'T INVOLVED HE AND SHOWN ANY INTEREST IN, SO I DON'T THINK HE'S BEEN THAT INVOLVED WITH THAT PROJECT OR INTERESTED IN BEING INVOLVED.
IT WOULD, WE WOULD, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN RFP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT WAS FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS.
NOT INCLUDING THIS AUTO REGISTRATION, YOUR HONOR.
IT WAS A SEPARATE AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, HIM PRIORITIZING IT, BUT THEN YOU GUYS LOOKING AT IT TOO BECAUSE AS KIM MENTIONED, SOMETIMES PROJECTS ARE SUBMITTED AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO KNOW WHETHER WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, HE PUT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE COURT TO APPROVE THOSE THINGS.
OR EVEN HER PROJECT BUDGET THAT DOESN'T GIVE REASSURANCE WHETHER DISCRETION, BUILDING AND GROUNDS.
WELL, I THINK IT NEEDS, ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS NEED TO COME TO COURT FOR APPROVAL.
BEFORE THAT'S, THAT'S, SO THEY NEED TO BE PUT IN A CAPITAL IN THE MOTION THAT I MADE IMPROVEMENTS MOTION, THE MOTION THAT I MADE INCLUDED THAT THEY BE BROUGHT TO COURT FOR APPROVAL BEFORE ANY MONIES, ANY FUNDS ARE SPENT.
SO IF WE DON'T APPROVE SOMETHING FOR THIS EXPANSION, IT'S GONNA SIT THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GONNA SIT THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WELL, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION ISN'T FUNCTIONAL FOR THE NEEDS OF THAT DEPARTMENT.
SO AS FAR AS GOING FORWARD AND GETTING BIDS OR BASIC SCHEMATICS OF WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, HOW HAVE YOU GONE ABOUT DOING THAT? UH, SO WE HAD A LIST OF, UM, OF ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS THAT WE COULD REQUEST,
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UM, PRICING FROM.SHE PICK ONE AND GET A PRICE ESTIMATE.
AND THEN IF WE DON'T LIKE THAT, WE SCRAP THAT ONE AND WE GO TO THE, AND THAT NEXT ONE THAT THE AWARDED ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS THAT Y'ALL AWARDED LAST SUMMER.
AND SO WE CAN'T HAVE MULTIPLES AT THE SAME TIME AND, AND BE COMPETITIVE AMONGST THOSE THREE BECAUSE IT'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
SO YOU JUST CHOOSE ONE BASED ON THE, THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY SUBMITTED LAST SUMMER.
AND YOU ASK THEM FOR AN ESTIMATE AND THEN GO, GO THROUGH IT OR YOU, YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY JUST ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES ENGINEER AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THEY THINK THE CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE PLUS THEIR FEE.
AND THAT'S WHAT SO FAR WE'RE, WE'RE LIKE AROUND BETWEEN THREE 50 AND 5,000.
AND THAT'S ALL IN, THAT'S ARCHITECTURE AND BUILD OUT.
WHICH COMPANY WAS THAT? THE UH, AND WHAT WAS THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT SPACE? IT'S ABOUT 30 BY 30.
THE KITCHEN IS FROM ABOUT 900 SQUARE FOOT.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED ON THIS? WE NEED A BUDGET FOR THE REMODEL, WHICH WE HAVE NO CLUE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR OUR WELL, BUT YOU NEED TO SET A BUDGET AND THEN WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THAT BUDGET.
THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO HERE.
I'M SORRY, I SAY YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT US TO DO DEDICATE 500,000, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW NOT TO EXCEED 500,000.
MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY MOTIONS.
WERE 500,000 NOT TO EXCEED 500,000.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE 30 BY 30 WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FOR HALLWAYS, WE'RE UNDER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
AND AT THREE 50 TO 400, I MEAN, OR 350 TO $400 A SQUARE FOOT FOR A REMODEL THAT HAS EXISTING SLAB.
SO WHEN SHE CAME OUT TO KIND OF LOOK AROUND MM-HMM.
THEY ALSO ARE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THE BATHROOMS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE.
THE PUBLIC BATHROOMS. A DA COMPLIANT.
SO TO FIX THE BATHROOMS, REMOVE TWO WALLS AND THEN DO THE FLOORING.
ALL THE NEW ELECTRICAL AND STUFF.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER RESTROOMS IN THAT FACILITY THAT ARE CURRENTLY A DA COMPLIANT THAT ARE NOT A DA COMPLIANT THAT ARE CURRENTLY A DA COMPLIANT? THE ONES ACROSS THE HALL.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT PART OF THIS PROJECT COST IS MAKING THE BATHROOMS A DA COMPLIANT YES.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN BATHROOMS FOR THAT ENTIRE FACILITY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE ONES THEY'RE THE MOST POPULAR? YES.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S JUST TO MAKE THE YEAH, THOSE, YES.
THE ONES THAT ARE MOST USED ARE NOT, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF 90 PLUS PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE, I WOULD ASSUME USE THOSE RECORDS WOULD GO IN THAT BUILDING WHO AREN'T GOING DOWN THE COUNTY COURT LAWS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE RESTROOMS THAT ARE DOWN BY COUNTY COURT LAW.
THOSE ARE, ARE THOSE ADA A COMPLIANT? THEY'RE SO, BECAUSE THEY WERE DONE IN 2007.
UM, BUT THESE ARE NOT RIGHT NOW AADA A COMPLIANT WHERE THE YEAH.
THEY'RE NOT IN THE HANDICAP STALLS.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CORRECT BOTH RESTROOMS FOR THE HANDICAP STALLS.
THAT WAS AN IN-HOUSE RENOVATION WHEN IT WAS DONE AND THEY WEREN'T PUT YEAH.
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YEAH.DID THAT, I MEAN I'VE, I'VE SECONDED THIS NOT TO EXCEED 500,000.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ADAM? ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIES FIVE.
CAN WE GET SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BEFORE WE HAVE TO LEAVE TO GO TO LUNCH? OR THAT WOULD BE SALARY
JUDGE, WHAT DO YOU WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA FINISH IN 10 MINUTES.
WE JUST GO AHEAD AND WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR LUNCH AT 10 12 AND WE'LL COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK.
RETURN TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET AGENDA.
WHERE WERE WE? WE GOT THROUGH IT BUILDING GROUNDS.
I, WE ITEM GD WE KIND SKIPPED OVER.
[I.D. Discuss/Vote on Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]
D, UM, DISCUSS VOTE, ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUESTS AND NEW POSITIONS.I, UM, JP THREE, THE RECLASSIFICATION THERE.
IF JAMES WERE ONLY HERE, HE COULD ANSWER ALL THOSE.
HOW ABOUT THAT
JP THREE'S REQUEST IS TO TAKE ONE POSITION AND TO RECLASS THEM TO AN ASSISTANT CO COORDINATOR.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PERSON IT WOULD BE.
SO I JUST TOOK 55,000 6 61 AND THEY WANNA INCREASE IT TO 69.
MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I VISITED WITH HIM AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING HE THINKS HE NEEDS TO DO IN HIS, IN HIS OFFICE.
HE'S JUST MOVING ONE GUY, MOVING ONE.
IT'S MOVING A, UH, SOMEBODY FROM A, A CLERK POSITION TO AN ASSISTANT.
THEY NOT ADDING ANOTHER EMPLOYEE.
YOU KNOW THE DISCUSSION, ALL THE PAPER CARRIES FIVE.
OH, WASN'T HE WANTING SOME EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING? ALL HE REQUESTS IS THIS RIGHT NOW ALL WE NEED IS THIS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW THE CONSTABLES ARE HERE.
THEY HAVE, UM, TWO OF THEM HAVE REQUESTS FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
THEY ALL HAVE REQUESTS FOR AN INCREASE IN UNIFORM ALLOWANCE IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
AS I STATED EARLY ON, UH, FROM, UH, I'M REQUESTING A NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE AND, UH, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES WITH HIM AND A TRUCK FOR, UH, SPRAY ANOTHER TRUCK.
WHAT ELSE MIGHT NEED BE TALKING ABOUT HERE? GOT THOSE.
UM, FOR THE POSITION ITSELF, IT WOULD BE 109,755 FOR THE SALARY AND BENEFITS, THE ADDITIONAL CAP COST WILL BRING IT TO A TOTAL OF 1 97, 286.
THAT INCLUDES A VEHICLE, ALL THE OUTFITTING, RADIO, CAMERA, VEST, LAPTOP, ET CETERA.
AND YOU GOT A, YOU GOT A GUY THAT'S GONNA RETIRE SOON.
AND SO YOU'RE WANTING TO TRAIN THIS NEW GUY THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
HE TOLD ME HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO, LIKE WE TALKED, WHEN IS THE RETIREMENT OF YOUR OFFICER TWO, SIR? WHEN IS THE RETIREMENT OF YOUR OFFICER? PROBABLY THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
HE, AND HE TOLD ME FOR SURE, HE SAID THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE I'M GONNA MOVE.
WE APPROVE YOUR NEW EMPLOYEE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
JUST BEFORE WE GO, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY NOW, IS YOUR INTENT WHEN YOU, WHEN HE DOES RETIRE, ARE YOU GONNA FILL THAT POSITION ALSO? I WOULD HOPE TO.
IT'S NOT IS WHAT I'M TRYING, BUT YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
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GETTING SOMEBODY ON BOARD NOW TO HAVE SOMEONE TO TRAIN 'EM IS YEAH.THAT WAY WHEN WE TRY AND TRAIN SOMEBODY AND KEEP GOING THROUGH AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, WE HAVE OTHERS IN HERE THAT HAVE REQUESTED PRECINCT THREE HAS ALSO REQUESTED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE.
SO IN EFFECT, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRECINCT ONE HERE, BUT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TWICE THIS AMOUNT.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT PRECINCT TWO IS A ROCKSTAR.
THANK YOU JOE HARRIS FOR NOT REQUESTING
YES, WE'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER DEPUTY.
UH, YOU KNOW WHY AND, UH, REQUEST FROM DAY BEFORE AND ALSO A NEW DRONE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.
UH, THERE'S TOO MANY INSTANCES WHERE WE NEED SOMETHING IN THE AREA THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND IT'S JUST HINDERING US DOING OUR JOB.
ONE COMMENT ON THE DRONE REAL QUICK.
IF YOU KEEP IT UNDER A CERTAIN WEIGHT, YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO ALL THE FEDERAL OFFICER TRAIN IS A 1 0 7 PART B OPERATOR.
SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE FAA AND ALL THAT CRAP? I'M A CERTIFIED OPERATOR.
HOW MUCH DO THAT, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH THAT THE DRONE IS NOT TIED TO THE NEW EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD BE UNDER THEIR CAP.
HOW MUCH IS THAT DRONE THAT YOU'RE WANTING? IT'S BE $8,000 SIR.
ISN'T THAT KIND OF HIGH? YEAH, IT IS VERY HIGH.
IS IT A BUT THAT DOES THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE CASE.
THE MONITOR SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO FLY THE DRONE WITH THE EQUIPMENT IS A STATE OF THE ART DRONE.
IS IT A THERMAL DRONE? WE'RE GOING TO GET THERMAL BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD MAKE IT THAT HIGH.
BE ABLE TO, WHY DO YOU NEED THERMAL HOTSPOTS? A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, YOU'LL HAVE A HOTSPOT AND THAT WILL, IF YOU PUT IT ON THERMAL, YOU CAN SEE THE HOTSPOT WHERE WITH THE VISUAL CAMERA YOU WON'T SEE IT.
WE'VE BEEN WITH, UH, SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS THERE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SUGGEST AND WE AGREE WITH THEM THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
IS IT LEGAL TO FLY A DRONE OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY? IF YOU'RE, SIR, IF YOU'RE IN THAT SPACE, AIR SPACE, IT'S A REAL TRICKY DEAL.
I CAN GET UP 400 FEET ABOVE ANY BUILDING FROM THE GROUND.
I CAN LOOK AS FAR AS I WANT TO SEE THE DRONE WE'RE GOING TO GET, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO 400 FEET AND LOOK A HALF A MILE INTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.
IF YOU FLY OVER A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT AND SEARCH THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S ILLEGAL.
BUT IF YOU GO 400 FEET IN AN OPEN AIR SPACE AND LOOK A HALF MILE INTO IT, YOU'RE LEGAL.
BECAUSE I'D HEARD THAT YOU CAN FLY DRONES OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE AEROSPACE OPEN TO, BUT YOU CAN'T SEARCH.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN FLY OVER AND LOOK AT IT, BUT YOU CAN'T FLY OVER SEARCH IT.
OH, IT'S REAL, IT'S REAL TECHNICAL.
IT WHAT I WAS ASKING HIM ABOUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE USING IT FOR VERY, WE, WE BOUGHT ONE, IT WAS ABOUT 1600 BUCKS FOR THAT HAS 4K AND ALL THAT.
AND SO WHAT WE BOUGHT ONE WAS FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES AND SEEING WHERE WATER WAS GOING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND BECAUSE WE KEPT OURS UNDER A HUNDRED KILOGRAMS OR WHATEVER IT WAS, 55 POUND.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE KEPT IT UNDER THAT.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
THE ONLY THING I CAN'T DO IS I CAN'T LIKE ZOOM IN ON PEOPLE'S WINDOWS OR YOU KNOW, ZOOM IN ON PEOPLE'S FACES OR SWIMMING POOL OR WHATEVER.
I THOUGHT YOU CAN GET AN OVERVIEW, BUT YOU CAN'T ZOOM IN ON THAT HOUSE OR AN OBJECT LIKE A LICENSE PLATE, UH, CAN CREATE A PRIVACY THERE.
WELL, AND WE, WE TRUST THAT YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE RULES AND THE LAWS AND YOU'RE GONNA HANDLE IT APPROPRIATELY.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE, ON THE TABLE.
UM, DID WE WANNA AMEND THAT? IS THERE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS OR? I, I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE NUMBER WAS TO ADD THE EMPLOYEE AT JP THREE, INCLUDING ALL THE CAP AND NON CAP AND EVERYTHING FOR CONSTABLE THREE.
THE TOTAL EMPLOYEE COST IS 1 25 6 22.
THE, UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VEST, PROTECTIVE CLOTHING DESK, LAPTOP, DESKTOP MONITOR VEHICLE AND OUTFITTING IS AN ADDITIONAL 96,388 FOR 2 22, 2 10.
SO THAT'D BE A SEPARATE VOTE OR YOU GONNA WANT TO ADD IT ALL? WELL, I WAS JUST, I WAS, THE REASON I WAS BRINGING IT UP IS BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU APPROVE ONE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU MIGHT APPROVE THE OTHER.
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YEAH.AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL COST, THE TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE IS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASSUME ABOUT YOU.
IF YOU ASSUME IF YOU'RE GONNA VOTE FOR HIS, I'LL VOTE FOR MINE.
WELL, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO BE HANDLED TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, IS WHAT THE REASON I WAS ASKING.
SO IS THE MOTION GONNA REMAIN OR WE GONNA AMEND IT TO DO BOTH? OR I MOVE THAT WE JUST ALLOW TWO NEW OFFICERS FOR A NEW EMPLOYEE FOR CONSTABLE ONE AND A NEW EMPLOYEE FOR CONSTABLE THREE.
VEHICLE AND ALL THE CAP AND THE OUTFITTING.
IS IT INCLUDING THE DRONE OR THAT'S TOTALLY NO, THAT'S, NO, THAT'S OUTTA THEIR BUDGET SEPARATE.
EVERYBODY IN HERE IF WE APPROVE IT TODAY DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CAN'T BE VOTED OUT TOMORROW.
JOE, I'D, I'D HOP IN HERE IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
YOU NEED A DRONE? WELL, YEAH, THE DRONES ARE HANDY.
THEY'RE WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON NO, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL.
I KNOW THAT'S A, IT SOUNDS HIGH, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GONNA PREVENT A LOT WORSE PROBLEMS WITH THERMAL THAN NOT HAVING THERMAL, SO THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
UM, THE OTHER REQUEST FOR ALL THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES, AND THIS IS WHY CONSTABLE HARRIS IS HERE, IS ASKING TO TAKE THEIR UNIFORM PAY FROM $600 TO $1,200 PER PERSON CAN JUST, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT, JUST WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
CAN YOU SAY, SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE UNIFORM ALLOWANCES.
SOME OF THEM DO RECEIVE A $1,200 ALLOWANCE FOR SOME OF THEIR STAFF LIKE CONSTABLE FOR WEARS THE COMPLETE UNIFORM.
SO THOSE DEPUTIES ARE GIVEN A $1,200 UNIFORM ALLOWANCE.
THE OTHER CONSTABLES, THEIR OFFICES RECEIVE A $600 PER EMPLOYEE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF UM, PRECINCT TWO.
HE DOES ALREADY HAVE ONE OFFICER THAT WEARS A COMPLETE UNIFORM, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THEM ALL TO GO TO THAT, WHETHER YOU WEAR UNIFORM OR PLAIN CLOTHES, THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR, IF THEY'RE PLAIN CLOTHES.
SO I BELIEVE IN ONE CASE, ONE OF 'EM HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO WEAR LIKE BLUE JEANS.
THAT WOULD BE THE $600 ALLOWANCE.
BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA GO TO A TRUE UNIFORM, IT WOULD BE 1200.
WE HAVE MOTION MR. TRUE UNIFORM AND THEN I'LL SECOND THAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, FOR ALL OF THEM.
CROSS BOARD CONSTABLE FOUR ALREADY HAS THAT, SO IT'D BE FOR CONSTABLE ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? WHAT? WELL THAT'S THROUGH PAYROLL FOR UNIFORMS. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS UNDER FIVE OH FORM IS THIS YEAR, IT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES.
I FORESEE IT COMING UP IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THE WAY THAT OUR UNIFORM POLICY IS WRITTEN IS, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS DISCRETION AS TO WHICH POSITIONS HAVE A MANDATORY UNIFORM IN DIRECTING WHAT THAT IS.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN REQUESTS THIS YEAR WHERE THEY'RE WANTING MAYBE, UM, OFFICE STAFF OR WHOEVER TO PURCHASE POLOS WITH THE PARKER COUNTY LOGO ON IT.
UM, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING, YES, IT'S WRITTEN THAT IT'S THE DISCRETION, BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, YOU CAN SAY, WELL I WANT TO REQUIRE ALL OF MY STAFF TO WEAR THESE POLOS DAILY AND THEN THE COUNTY START PAYING FOR THEM.
OR YOU KNOW, IS IT, IT'S ONLY FRIDAY.
IT'S, IT'S WRITTEN VERY BROADLY AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POSITIONS WHERE THERE IS A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ALLOWANCE.
IT'S BEEN PAID FOR OR IF THEY'RE PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, IN SOME THINGS, I DON'T KNOW, IN THE UNIFORMS, LIKE BUILDING AND GROUNDS DOES THE, THE T-SHIRTS, WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE PAID FOR HATS AND T-SHIRTS FOR SOME OF THE, UM, CERTAIN VOLUNTEERS OR THAT SORT OF THING, UM, THROUGH EOC.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS DIFFERENT.
AND I HAD SAID, I FELT LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE POLICY KIND OF, THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN THE, THE OPERATING POLICY.
AND SO ANY DEPARTMENT CAN COME AND SAY, WELL NOW I'M MAKING THIS MANDATORY, WHETHER THAT BE COUNTY COURT, DISTRICT COURT, AUTO REGISTRATION, I COULD JUST SEE WHERE NOW WE'RE GONNA BUY ALL OF THESE POLOS FOR, BECAUSE I'M GONNA SAY IT'S MANDATORY FOR MY DEPARTMENT.
SO I FEEL LIKE COURT NEEDS TO ADDRESS THAT.
MY STAFF, THEY WANTED THOSE T-SHIRTS.
THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE DID AS, AS WELL.
I, MY DEPARTMENT, THEY WANT 'EM, THEY CAN PERSONALLY PURCHASES IT.
BUT AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST, UM, DEFINE IT OR KIND OF NARROW THE SCOPE IN OUR CURRENT UNIFORM POLICY OF WHAT IS BEING COVERED.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS AT THE DISCRETION OF A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
SO SOMEONE CAN CERTIFY TO US OF WELL I AM MAKING THIS THIS, SO THIS
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POSITION, THIS IS A MANDATORY UNIFORM AND WE WANNA PAY THEM THAT.WELL I GO BACK TO OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR PRECINCT EMPLOYEES.
I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE A MANDATORY UNIFORM.
WE HAVE CLOTHING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, BUT THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO BUY UNIFORMS, PURCHASE UNIFORMS, PAY FOR THEM THEMSELVES COMES OUTTA THEIR CHECK.
I MEAN, AND BRIANNA VI AND I'VE HAD SO MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME REQUESTS THIS YEAR TO BE IN THEIR NON CAP OR CAP, YOU KNOW, SOME CLOTHING MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT REASON.
YEAH, THERE'S LIKE A UNIFORM LINE.
THAT THEY COULD JUST DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND MOVE IT.
AND I SAID WHEN THERE WAS A REQUEST TO DO THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, I SAID, I I'M JUST GONNA LET YOU KNOW I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU, BUT I'M GONNA BRING THIS UP, UM, TO HAVE YOU ALL HAVE A MORE, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT.
AND SO, UM, THEY HAD DRAWN THAT REQUEST AND SAID LET'S JUST ADDRESS IT AT BUDGET TIME.
BUT AGAIN, THIS WASN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT I'D HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPART.
UM, MY, MY FEELING'S STILL THE SAME.
WHAT, WHAT, UH, JONES IS DOING IN FOUR.
WHAT AARON, YOU KNOW WHAT I CONSIDER COMPLETE UNIFORM, LIKE A LAW ENFORCEMENT UNIFORM, THEN I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
UM, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF OF HIM GOING INTO TO THAT.
BUT IF IT'S WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THEN I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S THE FULL 1200.
SO NO, AND I THINK LIKE ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE SAW WAS JP OFFICES, THEY WANTED LIKE A $600 AMOUNT PUT INTO A CLOTHING LINE TO WHERE IT COULD, THEY COULD PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, POLO SHIRTS FOR THE OFFICE.
AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
TELL I'M GONNA CALL COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
YEAH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AWAY.
'CAUSE I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I COULD DEEM MY OFFICE WEAR DENIM JEANS AND A BLACK SHIRT.
IS THAT A UNIFORM? SHOULD THAT THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR IT? NO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
SO TO CLARIFY, JUST AGAIN, SO IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE CLOTHING LINE, I MEAN IF YOU DON'T WEAR FULL UNIFORM, YOUR ALLOWANCE IS 600 FOR CLOTHES.
PLAIN CLOTHES, WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO WEAR.
BUT IF THEY'RE IN A UNIFORM THEN IT'S THE $1,200 ALLOWANCE.
THIS IS WHAT BRIANNA'S TALKING ABOUT ISN'T A PAYROLL ALLOWANCE, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS BASED OFF OF THE DISCUSSION HERE IS IF WE, IF THERE'S A REQUEST OUTSIDE WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY APPROVED, THEN IT SHOULD COME BEFORE THE COURT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.
OH UM, UH, WE HAVE TRACY I THINK.
YEAH, THAT'S WHO I'M ABOUT TO CALL HIM.
UM, WOULD YOU COME ON UP? MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.
UH, I ORIGINALLY HAD ASKED FOR A FULL-TIME CLERK.
UM, AND I'D BE WILLING IF WE COULD DO EVEN JUST A PART-TIME CLERK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DISCUSSED LIKE 25,000 A YEAR AND I GUESS YOU WOULDN'T BE NO BENEFITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD HELP ME OUT GREATLY.
AND THEN IN A YEAR OR TWO, MAYBE GO FULL TIME, WHATEVER WE COULD DO.
SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS YOU WOULD WITHDRAW THE REQUEST FOR A FULL-TIME AND GO AND REQUEST A PART-TIME? YES SIR.
AND THE COST ON THE CLERK? ON THE CLERK PART? YES SIR.
WE ALREADY VOTED TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER PERSON.
YOU'RE NOT DROPPING THAT PERSON.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING.
YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A CLERK, CORRECT? NO, SIR.
SO Y'ALL ARE ALL JUST I OUT THERE INVESTIGATING? YES SIR.
AND THEN I DO THE UH, AND I DO THE COURT STUFF.
SO THERE'S NOBODY IN THE OFFICE WHEN YOU'RE ALL ARE OUT ON A CASE? NO, UH, I, I TRY TO TRANSFER IT WITH THE FLORIDA, WHATEVER THE APP IS.
MINE'S NOT CURRENTLY WORKING BUT I TRY TO FORWARD IT TO MINE.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S BEEN MADE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? PAUL? IN A FAVOR.
WELL, WE HADN'T VOTED YET UNLESS I WAIT FOR THE VOTE TO WAIT FOR THE CARRIE'S FIVE.
SORRY,
UM, I'M GETTING REPORTS FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE ONLINE WHO ARE DESPERATELY WANTING TO HEAR Y'ALL, BUT THEY CAN'T HEAR 'CAUSE NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE.
SO I THINK FROM ALL RIGHT ON BECKY FROM ALL THREE PEOPLE.
DO YOU WANNA START ALL OVER OR DO YOU? NO.
THEY, SHE'S REALLY LOUD BUT THEY CAN'T HEAR, I MEAN, 'CAUSE SHE'S SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE, BUT THEY CAN'T HEAR THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NEXT TO THE MICROPHONE.
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YOU WANT TO COME UP? NO.WERE YOU, WERE YOU, YOU STOOD UP.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US? UM, SO I HAVE VISITED WITH MARK LONG AND I KNOW HE IS NOT HERE TODAY.
SO HE HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR A NEW CUSTODIAN.
UM, HE'S BACKED OFF THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GONNA BE READY FOR A WHILE.
HE DID ASK THOUGH, CURRENTLY HE HAS 46,500 IN A PART-TIME LINE.
HE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THAT PART-TIME TO BECOME FULL-TIME.
HE HAS A LOT OF TROUBLE HIRING PART-TIME PEOPLE.
BUT THEN WE WOULD TAKE A PORTION OF THE PART-TIME MONEY 23,250 AND ADD IT TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER BUDGET BECAUSE HE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE SOME PART-TIME HELP AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER.
AND THEN HE'S ASKING FOR A NEW MAINTENANCE TECH AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR, YOUR MOTION? MY MOTION WAS TO TAKE THE, THE PART-TIME AND TURN 'EM INTO A FULL-TIME.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SO IN BOTH THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND IT'D BE PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME AND DEPARTMENT FIVE 10.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIE? FIVE.
BILL, ANY MOVE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT PART-TIME MONEY TO OUT REALLOCATE IT TO FIVE 13.
SO THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL MONEY, RIGHT? IT WOULD, YEAH.
NO, IT WOULD, BECAUSE THAT LINE'S GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE REGARDLESS.
SO IF WE TOOK 23 2 50 PART-TIME, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 26, 20 7,000 TO MOVE THAT PERSON TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER IS CURRENTLY, THIS IS I THE MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
OH, ANYTHING ELSE? MAINTENANCE TECH.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER FULL-TIME REQUEST, THE DISTRICT CLERK HAD ASKED FOR A NEW CRIMINAL DEPUTY CLERK.
UH, THE TOTAL COST FOR THE EMPLOYEE WOULD BE 93,303.
UM, THERE WAS SOME CAP THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT FOR THE TOTAL ASK IS 94,574.
SHE WANTS A NEW, UH, DISTRICT CLERK, A CRIMINAL DEPUTY CLERK ON, SO IT'D BE A CLERK ON HER CRIMINAL SIDE.
SHE ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR ASKED FOR TWO EMPLOYEES AND Y'ALL GRANTED ONE.
SO SHE'S JUST COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR THE SECOND EMPLOYEE THAT SHE DIDN'T GET LAST YEAR.
I THINK I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES.
SHE HAD ABOUT A, DID SHE SAY 6% INCREASE IN SUITS? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MADE THE NOTE AS WELL.
THAT CASE LOADS WAS, UM, THE REASONING TO JUSTIFY NEW CRIMINAL DEPUTY.
AND I THINK PART OF IT'S TO MAKE SURE, I THINK A LOT OF COUNTIES HAVE BEEN OH, INCLUDED IN A LEGAL LAWSUIT LAWSUIT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T FILING THE CASES IN WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME.
AND SO I THINK SHE WAS HAVING SOME PEOPLE IF THEY NEED TO YES.
WORK ON THE WEEKENDS AND KIND OF FLEX IT OUT SO THAT WAY THEY CAN ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MAKING THOSE FILINGS ON TIME.
AND AGAIN, THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE CASELOAD.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS? MOVE ON.
DO WHAT? GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
OH, WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.
WELL, SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS HERE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
THEY DO HAVE THE THREE DISPATCH POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.
UM, AS WELL AS THREE NEW DEPUTIES POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.
AND THEN TWO NEW COURTHOUSE SECURITY, SECURITY POSITIONS THAT I BELIEVE THAT REQUEST CAME FROM A SECURITY COMMITTEE HAVING TO DO WITH SECURITY AT CCL ONE AT THE ANNEX.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, OH YEAH.
IS KIND OF, WELL TAKE CARE OF ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM HERE AND THEN LET'S GET, LET'S GET A REP RECAP AND AN UPDATE AS BEST THAT WE CAN GET IT AFTER WE TAKE A JUST A FEW MINUTE BREAK AND KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE IN COMPARISON WITH.
WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY HERE.
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LIKE TO GO BACK TO, UH, I GUESS PROBABLY CAPITAL NON CAP TO THE DRONE FOR PRECINCT THREE.UH, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A BRIEF RECESS? LET'S, LET'S HANDLE THIS DRONE ISSUE.
UH, I GUESS WE, WE WANT THAT UNDER CAPITAL.
YEAH, UNDER G YOU'D, IF YOU'D CALL ITEM G AND I WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE DRONE THERE FOR ITEM G WITH THE CAPITAL AND
[I.G. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]
NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST.UH, WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO INCLUDE THE, THE PRICE OF THE DRONE OR ENVIRONMENTAL.
UH, SO I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, DO THAT FOR WHAT SHE MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALGREEN.
I'M GONNA SECOND TO GET US INTO DISCUSSION AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SIR, HOW OFTEN DO YOU GUESSTIMATE THAT Y'ALL WILL BE USING THAT? WELL, AND, AND I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I'M, UH, THE QUESTION'S LEADING.
UH, COULD MY GOOD BUDDY JOE HARRIS THERE FLY AROUND A LITTLE BIT AS WELL DOING? I GOT AN ANSWER FOR IT.
UH, BACK WHEN I WAS FLYING MY DRONE, ANYTIME WEATHERFORD NEEDED IT, ANYTIME THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEEDED IT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDED IT.
COMMISSIONERS NEEDED IT, I GOT IT IN THE AIR.
UH, WHEN WE GOT FLOODED, WE USED IT FOR RESCUING PEOPLE DOWN ON THE RIVER.
WE USED IT ON MANHUNTS, WE USED IT ON ACCIDENTS, WHEREVER, WHENEVER, UH, WE COULD USE THAT THING TWO TO THREE TIMES A WEEK EASILY.
AND WHEN ON CALL WE COULD USE IT PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK.
SO THE NICE THING ABOUT THERMAL, YOU CAN FLY AT NIGHT, SWAT GOES OUT, THEY NEED IT.
IF WE GOT AN OPERATOR AVAILABLE, WHICH WE PROBABLY WILL, WE WILL SADDLE UP, MEET WITH THEM AND GO WITH THEM AND THEN Y'ALL HAVE A, A BAD ISSUE DOWN ON THE ROAD, CALL US.
WE'LL COME, I WOULD IMAGINE SOME SEPTIC PROBABLY COULD GET INVOLVED THERE FOR RUSTY FOR PERMITTING IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR NEEDING SOME OF THAT.
UM, I HELPED GET WEATHERFORD PD STARTED ON THIS BACK WHEN I FIRST CAME TO WORK FOR THE CONSTABLE DEPARTMENT.
I FLEW TWO DRONES AND THEY, I USED IT SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEM.
I MET WITH THEIR COMMANDERS, THEY GOT A DRONE OPERATION SET UP.
I PAID FOR MY PERSONAL SCHOOL WITH MY PERSONAL DRONES.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE USED IT, IT HELPS THE COUNTY.
ANY OTHER CITY HAS THEM AND THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TO HAVE.
I JUST SAY IF PRECINCT TWO EMPLOYEE NAMED MIKE NORRIS ASKS TO USE IT, DON'T LET HIM
NOW WE YOU HAVE TO BE AN OPERATOR.
HE'LL SAY HE IS, DON'T LISTEN TO HIM.
I DON'T GUESS THERE'S ANY, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER, YOU USE YOUR DRONE I GUESS.
AND UH, OURS IS A VERY DIFFERENT STYLE OF DRONE AND WE USE OURS AGAIN FOR DRAINAGE ISSUES AND SEEING WHERE THE NATURAL FLOW OF THE WATER IS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND I'M TEASING, MIKE IS LICENSED AND HE'S A VERY GOOD OPERATOR.
THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE.
I, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN COMBINE RESOURCES HERE, IF THAT'S A
OURS DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER HOLT SECONDED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE A.
IF WE COULD TAKE A BREAK AND KIND OF GET A, RECAP THAT BACK ON A SECOND.
WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND RECORD SHOW AT 1 33.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA RESUME
[I.H. Discuss/Vote on Special Revenue Funds and Projects. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]
AT 1 46.SO WE ARE SHOWING, WE MAY, WE'RE GONNA WORK OUT SOME IT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
THERE MAY BE SOME SLIGHT DIFFERENCES BUT HOPEFULLY NOTHING SIGNIFICANT.
UM, WE'RE SHOWING 3,386,730, SO ALMOST 3.4 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BRING OUR TOTAL APPROVALS UP TO ABOUT 9.6 MILLION.
UM, AN ADJUSTED TOTAL BUDGET AT THIS POINT OF 83.5 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE 3.7 MILLION MORE THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN.
AND THEN, UM, WITH THE CHANGE IN THE TAX RATE FROM THIS MORNING RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE, UM, A USE OF FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.
WHAT DO Y'ALL SHOW AS THE REMAINING UNAPPROVED THAT, I DUNNO,
YEAH, I GUESS WHAT WAS OUR TOTAL THIS MORNING? SEVEN POINT WHAT? 4.377 YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ABOUT 4.377.
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WAS OKAY.AND THIS IS, THIS IS MY ATTEMPT TO RECONCILE ALL Y'ALL'S SHEETS.
SO I'VE PROBABLY MISSED SOME THINGS HERE, BUT I'M SHOWING THAT SHOULD LEAVE US BETWEEN FIVE AND 6 MILLION LEFT AS UNAPPROVED.
I HAD STARTED THIS MORNING OF, I HAD TAKEN THE 10.6 THAT YOU HAD ON YOUR SHEET.
I'D TAKEN OUT 798,000 'CAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE APPROVAL.
AND THEN THIS 9 23 0 4 1 I THINK WAS THE OPERATING.
I TOOK THAT OUT AND THEN I WAS SHOWING A DIFFERENCE IN, I BELIEVE THE CAP AND NON CAP OF ABOUT 1.7.
SO I WAS SHOWING THE ADJUSTED THIS MORNING OF UNAPPROVED OF 7.2 MILLION.
AND THEN WE'VE APPROVED, HOLD ON, THAT'S OTHER.
YEAH, I SENT BACK TO KIM 3.4
UM, I SENT BACK TO KIM KIND OF WHERE I THINK OUR SPREADSHEETS WERE NEEDED TO LINE UP.
SO I THINK WE'RE, WELL PART OF THAT THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE THIS MORNING WAS ALSO, I GUESS WHICH IS IN HERE NOW, LIKE THE BUILDING AND GROUNDS.
'CAUSE THAT WASN'T IN ANY OF OUR FIGURES OF THE UNAPPROVED THIS MORNING.
REGARDLESS IF WE, EVEN IF WE SAY WE'RE NOT APPROVING ONE MORE THING.
I'M SHOWING, I'M SORRY, MORE THAN THAT.
UM, 6.1 FROM FUND BALANCE, DID YOU ADJUST FOR THE REVENUE? YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S ADJUSTED FOR THE 4.7 FROM THE INCREASED TAX.
AND THAT'S ALSO ADJUSTED 4.3 FOR, SO WITHOUT ANY FUND BALANCE AT ALL, LEMME JUST BACK INTO SOME REAL BROAD NUMBERS.
WE HAVE TOTAL APPROVED EXPENSES OF 83.5 MILLION, HOLD ON.
AND WE HAVE PROJECTED REVENUES OF 77.5 MILLION AND THAT INCLUDES THE 4.7 MILLION FROM THE INCREASED TAX CEILING.
SO THAT MEANS THAT IF WE GO BY THE INCREASED TAX CEILING THAT WE SET TODAY, WE'RE STILL BORROWING 6 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
RIGHT NOW I TRANSPOSE MY NUMBERS.
SO MY POINT IS, EVEN IF WE GO WITH THE CEILING YES SIR.
EVEN IF WE GO WITH THE CEILING, WE'RE BORROWING 6 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE AND WE'VE GOT A HECK OF A LOT OF APPROVALS LEFT.
BUT WE MIGHT NEED A
BEFORE TODAY WE PUSHED FORWARD IN FUND BALANCE OR WERE PROJECTED TO.
ALRIGHT, SO I ADJUSTED A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO THIS, SO THEN IT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PICKING THIS UP.
SEE I'M TRYING TO JUST ADD STUFF ON THE TOP, BUT YES, IT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, LET'S JUST ADD THIS JUDGE.
PROPOSED BUDGET OF ABOUT 74 MILLION WE'VE APPROVED.
THAT INCLUDES, THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED THE DAY WITH.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF 83 AND A HALF.
WE'RE PROJECTING NO NEW REVENUE OF 44.3 MILLION AND THEN PLUS 4.7 MILLION DUE TO THE INCREASE.
WE HAVE OTHER REVENUE PROJECTION FEES OF OFFICE AND SALES AND ALL THAT CRAP OF 28 AND A HALF MILLION.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MY SPREADSHEET? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT YOU, I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YES.
WHICH IS A TOTAL, BASICALLY WE WE'RE AT 83 AND A HALF ON OUR EXPENSES AND WE'RE AT 77 AND A HALF ON OUR REVENUE.
SO THAT MEANS BEFORE WE APPROVE ONE MORE THING, WE'VE ASSUMED THAT WE'RE BORROWING 6 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
AND WE'VE USED THE CEILING, WE'VE ACTUALLY USED THAT CEILING GRATE THAT WE PASSED TODAY AND WE'RE, WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD AN ESTIMATED 2.7 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR.
I MA'AM, I'M, I JUST WANT IN THE, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT AGAIN, IT'S A PROJECTION.
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BALLPARK.BUT THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ANYWHERE.
AND SO TWO, THAT, THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR EITHER.
TO THAT POINT, OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE THAT'S UNASSIGNED AND AVAILABLE YEAH.
THAT WE TALK ABOUT FOR FUND BALANCE IS 37.1 MILLION.
LET'S SAY WE ROLL OVER THAT 2.7 RIGHT.
BUMPS IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE HAVE TO SUBTRACT THE SIX THAT WE'RE BORROWING.
SO WE'RE DROPPING OUR FUND BALANCE BY 10%.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD GIVE US A REMAINING FUND BALANCE OF OUR REMAINING FUND BALANCE WOULD BE RIGHT AT 40% OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
GIVEN THAT OUR BUDGETS ARE GROWING EACH YEAR BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS GROWING, THAT 40% IS PROBABLY MORE LIKE 33%, 32% OF YEAR'S BUDGET.
WELL, AND IF WE KNOW, I MEAN, JUST OFF THE TOP, IT'S KIND OF PROJECTING, WE TALK ABOUT THE JAIL INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE WELL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD.
SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED, IT'S ABOUT 3.7 MILLION MORE THAN THE CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE IN.
WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD OF WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FUND BALANCE AT BALLPARK? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, WITHOUT IT AFFECTING BOND RATING.
I MEAN OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY IS 25 TO 50% OF THE NEXT YEAR'S EXPENDITURES.
AGAIN, THEY LOOK AT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA AS TO WHAT YOU'RE USING YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR WHAT PERCENT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HISTORICALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.
OR IF YOU EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE, IS IT A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE? IS IT A RECURRING EXPENSE? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGES RIGHT.
THAT THE COUNTY HAS GOING FORWARD OR COSTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN THE ABILITY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, WHEN THE, AND I'M SPEAKING FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF, UM, OUR CREDIT RATING, THERE'S A LOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY INTENSE.
THE CALLS THAT WE HAVE AND THE FIGURES AND EVERYTHING WE PUT TOGETHER.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
IT'S A BIG PICTURE OF ALL OF THE PIECES.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, YES YOU'RE ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE ONE YEAR PERIOD, RIGHT? BUT IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INCREMENTALLY THAT THE YEARS TO COME OR IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS ON THE HORIZON OR PROJECTS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
UM, ONE ITEM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IN HERE EITHER ON THE ROLLOVER, WHICH WE WILL, WE GET THOSE AMOUNTS IS FOR THE, UM, AUTO REGISTRATION FOR THE WATER DAMAGE.
WHETHER THAT CLAIM WILL BE COVERED.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ROLLOVER TO THIS.
YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I GUESS IT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE CAP.
SO I'M, I'M STILL JUST TRYING TO DIGEST THIS SO I'M SPEAKING OUT LOUD BEFORE WE APPROVE ONE MORE THING.
WE'RE AT 83 AND A HALF MILLION.
WE'RE SPENDING 77 AND A HALF MILLION.
AND AGAIN, THAT ASSUMES THAT WE GO WITH THE HIGHER TAX RATE, THE HIGHEST TAX RATE THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
SO DO WE NEED TO, UH, REVISIT ANYTHING? WELL, WE, ON THE SPENDING SIDE, ON THE TAX SIDE, ON ANY OF THE SAY WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE AND THE FUND BALANCE, WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 20 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, WELL, AS YOUR BUDGET RISES, THAT NUMBER, YOUR MINIMUM IS GONNA RISE THEN GOES SO RIGHT.
SO AND SO, BUT WE'RE WAY, WAY ABOVE THAT.
WE WE'RE, ONE WAY THAT I LOOK AT FUND BALANCE SPEND MORE, WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET.
WE NEED TO HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TWO HEALTHY OF A FUND BALANCE, YOU HAVE MONEY THAT'S SITTING THERE THAT IS ACCUMULATING, I WOULD ASSUME MONEY, MARKET INTEREST RATE, MONEY MARKET INTEREST ON THE FUND BALANCE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S GETTING ABOUT 5.5.
SO IT'S ISH KEEPING IN, IN PACE WITH INFLATION.
THAT'S UNASSIGNED, IT'S GAINING INTEREST.
SO AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, THAT'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE UNDERUTILIZED.
DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF MARKET DATA THAT SAYS WHAT COUNTIES OUR SIZE HAVE AS FAR AS A PERCENTAGE
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OF THEIR REVENUE AS A FUND BALANCE? I'M, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE IF WE'RE WAY ON THE HIGH SIDE THEN I'M, I'M PRETTY DARN HESITANT TO USE A HIGHER TAX RATE WHEN WE SHOULD BE DIPPING.I, I'M, I'M GONNA, WHEN WE SHOULD BE RESTRUCTURING OUR FUND BALANCE.
I DON'T, I'M HOPING WE LOOK AT THAT.
I HOPE WE, WE WE LOOK AT THAT AND TAKE WHAT IS A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND LEAVE IT A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND BE ABLE TO BORROW FROM IT OR, OR I HATE THE WORD BORROW TO TAKE OUT FROM IT TO BALANCE THIS WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.
UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND I EXPECT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE EVEN AFTER WHAT WE DO HERE.
OUR FUND BALANCE IS HIGHER THAN IT'S EVER, IT'S, IT'S EVER BEEN THAN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ANYWAY.
SO YEAH, WE STILL GOT A LOT OF STUFF.
WELL I THINK ANOTHER THING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOUGH IS WE ALSO NEED A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE FOR WHATS GONNA HAPPEN THAT WE DUNNO.
WELL, AND I THINK WE, I THINK WE HAVE THAT WELL AND TOO THAT'S COMING ON BOARD.
I MEAN, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE THAT.
UM, BUT YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS OUT THERE ON THE HORIZON WE, WE DON'T SEE.
AND, AND THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID SOME TRAGIC THING THAT WE COST ARE, UM, BUT WITH THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE, I THINK THAT IS FACTORED INTO THAT AND JUST, YOU CAN'T KEEP DIGGING DEEP DEEPER INTO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DONE YET.
BUT I, I APPRECIATE THE UP TO DATE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER HOLT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
'CAUSE IT, HOPEFULLY WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IS UTILIZE WHAT, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER IS TAXPAYER UNDERUTILIZED FUNDS THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL KEEP US IN A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY GOAL IN THIS.
AND, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DONE YET.
WE'VE BEEN ALL OVER THIS AGENDA, BOUNCING ALL AROUND IT AND, UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT UNDER ITEM G CAPITAL, NON-CAPITAL WE HIT.
HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING ON THAT THAT IT NEEDS MORE OF OR VERY LITTLE.
[I.G. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]
ON ITEM G CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST, KIM.SO, UM, THE COURTROOM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM NEEDS AN AV OVERHAUL OF $25,795.
YOU MEAN YOU'RE TALKING THIS? YES.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS PRIORITIZING THINGS.
DO WE NEED TO MAYBE COME BACK TO THIS? THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY AV SYSTEM.
WE'LL SEE THE, LET'S SEE THE LIST HERE.
UM, SO IF WE WANNA MOVE DOWN TO 4 0 6, THE SMALL EQUIPMENT TRAILER, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KEPT AT THE, ONE OF THE CITY'S FIRE STATIONS.
UM, THEY REQUEST A $20,603 WORTH OF, UM, CONFINE SPACED EQUIPMENT.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IF YOU ALL DONATE OR GIVE THAT TRAILER TO THE CITY, THEN THAT EXPENSE WOULD NOT BE NEEDED.
THIS IS FOR REPELLING OFF OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS.
EQUIPMENT DID NOT, DID WE NOT MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSFER THAT THE OTHER DAY? I THOUGHT WE HEARD IT.
WAS THAT MUSIC JUST IN TIMING TO THIS
IT'S NOT SOUND LIKE AGGIES AND ME
UM, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE TRANSFER THAT, UH, EQUIPMENT TRAILER TO THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
UM, SORRY JUDGE, I WAS WANTING TO HURRY AND DO THIS.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? I'M CURIOUS.
I WANNA MOVE QUICKLY ON THAT ONE.
SO OFF ALSO UNDER, UH, DEPARTMENT 4 0 6, UM, THEY'VE REQUESTED $4,262 WORTH OF RADIO EQUIPMENT NON CAP WHAT DEPARTMENT? 4 0 6.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW THE RADIO EQUIPMENT? I KNOW WE'VE HEARD A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT RADIO EQUIPMENT.
IS IT, IF IT'S ANTENNA, I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS JUST LISTED ON THEIR WORKBOOK AS 4 0 6 AND DOC.
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SO THOSE, THOSE RADIOS ARE THE ONES THAT EACH EMPLOYEE WITH CARRIE? MM-HMM.CARRY $8,000 RADIOS, SOME OTHER ITEMS AND INVENTORY.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK RECENTLY IF JAMES IS SAYING HE, HE NEEDS TO LOOK INTO IT MORE, I'D, I'D SAY LET'S PASS ON THIS ITEM UNTIL JAMES LOOKS INTO IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF NEW RADIOS.
I THINK IT'S MORE REPLACEMENT OF BATTERIES AND EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE A NEW RADIO IS 8,000 OR $9,000 A PIECE.
MOVING ON TO, UM, CCL TWO DEPARTMENT 4 39.
THEIR BAILIFF IS NEEDING QUITE A BIT OF EQUIPMENT.
UM, TACTICAL CARRIERS, UNIFORM STYLE, MULTI THREAT VEST, DREAM BLACK, CLASSIC LED, LIGHT, UM, FLASHLIGHT, METAL DETECTOR WAND, HANDHELD, A HOLSTER SIGNBOARD FOR OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO A TOTAL, UM, ALL IN ONE COMPUTER ON THE BENCH AND IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE.
TWO OF THOSE TOTAL OF $5,444 OF CAP, NON CAP.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? COMPUTERS WERE UPSTAIRS.
PUT IN THE FIVE TWO RIGHT HERE.
DO YOU HAVE ONE? UH, YES FOR, UH, THE BENCH COURT.
UH, THAT'S GOING IN THEIR BUDGET, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
UH, THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE WANTING KIND OF SPECIAL FOR THEIR BENCHES THAT WASN'T ALIGNED WITH THE STANDARD WE WERE BUYING.
SO I WAS LIKE, IF IT'LL GET APPROVED FOR THEIR BUDGET, THEN YES, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
IS IT NECESSARY, UH, FOR THEM TO OPERATE IT? IT IT HELPS IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE SETTING UP.
SO I WAS HOPING ON THOSE THEY COULD COME DOWN AND EXPLAIN WHY.
SO IF WE NEED TO PUT THAT OFF, WE COULD HAVE THEM COME TO COURT.
DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE BAILIFF EQUIPMENT OR IS IT REPLACING EQUIPMENT THEY ALREADY HAVE? I'M GUESSING.
COMMISSIONER CONLEY, THE COMPUTER.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL THE COURT OF LAW TOO STUFF INCLUDING THE 5,444.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL I'VE EVER, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE COMPUTER? YEAH.
AND THAT'S STILL 5454 44 CARRIES.
SO THE JP THREE OFFICE, UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINGENCY OF $2,000 FOR OFFICE EQUIPMENT, NON CAP ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, CONTINGENCY OF 5,000 FOR ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, NON CAP AND ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
CONTINGENCY OF $10,000 FOR ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT CAP.
THIS WILL BE OUT OF THEIR FUND.
57 TECHNOLOGY FUNDS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO APPROVE.
AND THEN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
SO NOW WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
THEY ALSO HAVE REQUESTED DOCUSIGN SOFTWARE FOR $1,500 AND A-H-D-M-I TRANSMITTER RECEIVER.
THAT'S ALL COME FROM THE FUND? NO, THE BOT, THE LAST TWO WOULD BE OUT OF FUND 10.
THAT $1,610 WOULD BE OUT OF FUND 10.
WHY WOULDN'T THEY ALL BE OUT OF THE OTHER FUND? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A LIMIT.
DO THEY? WHICH OFFICE IS THIS FOR? 4 63.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY HAD, IT WAS ON THEIR TWO DIFFERENT, SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT TECHNOLOGY ACCOUNT.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE MIGHT BE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE OUT OF THE FUND.
IT'S ONE OF THESE, THE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS MOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UM, I SECOND THINK IT IS, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, UH, AFFECTING THE BUDGET.
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SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OH, I'M SORRY.
I DID, WHEN IT MOVES UP, I DON'T, I DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
COMMISSIONER HOLT, I SECOND IT BEFORE YOU DID.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASSES THIS FIVE.
WHEN IT GOES UP, I, I'M LIKE, OKAY.
SO FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, UM, SHE'S REQUESTING DECALS FOR THE TRAILER, UH, $460 AND THEN AN AUTO REPAIR CONTINGENCY LINE OF $7,500.
SHE'S GOT A COUPLE OF VEHICLES THAT ARE STILL QUESTIONABLE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GONNA NEED A NEW TRANSMISSION OR SOMETHING DURING THE YEAR.
MOTION MADE BY, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER WALDEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT WAS FOR A DIFFERENT MOTION.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT A MOTION.
IT CARRIES FIVE, OH, BY THE WAY.
UM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING TWO VEHICLES.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME FORD EXPLORERS.
AND THEN THE OUTFITTING FOR THOSE IS 33,000.
I'M, I'M SORRY, $3,384 FOR A TOTAL OF $81,384 FOR TWO VEHICLES PLUS OUTFITTING.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY WHAT DEPARTMENT AGAIN? COUNTY ATTORNEY 4 75.
ARE THESE, ARE THESE THE INVESTIGATORS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY THEY NEED LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH.
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING $3,000 FOR CONTINGENCY FOR OFFICE FURNITURE NON CAP.
UM, THEY'RE NEEDING THREE PROTECTIVE VESTS FOR THEIR INVESTIGATORS AT $7,500 AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY NON CAP OF $3,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $13,500.
I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PROTECTIVE VESTS FOR 7,500.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WAL.
AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES.
OH, SO ELECTIONS IS REQUESTING THREE OFFICE CHAIRS FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS, A LAMINATOR FOR $200, 200 V DRIVES, WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE, UM, VOTING MACHINES, UM, FOR $13,400.
AND, UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT RENTING GENERATORS FOR THE ELECTION AND WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PURCHASING OF, OF A FEW GENERATORS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE GONNA BE BUYING THREE GENERATORS OR TWO AND YOU MAY HAVE A THIRD.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE POSSIBILITY THE BAD GAS CLEANED UP AND THE THIRD ONE.
UM, COMMISSIONER COLLEEN, YOU HAVE THREE AT YOUR LOCATION, CORRECT? DID YOU HAVE ANY? SHE SAID SHE HAD TALKED TO YOU, BUT YOU WEREN'T SURE AND YOU HAD ONE.
TWO THAT IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, WE CAN GET 'EM UP THERE.
I ALREADY TOLD HER WE'VE GOT TWO THAT ARE AUTOMATIC ON VEHICLES AND ANOTHER ONE THAT IS PROBABLY USABLE.
SO I THINK SHE'S STILL WANTING FOUR, FOUR GENERATORS FOR EACH PRECINCT.
SO THAT'S THREE SIX, YOU SAID 2, 8, 10, 11.
SO SHE'S SEEING ABOUT FIVE MORE AND WE CAN PURCHASE THEM FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE AND IT WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT PROBABLY TO RENT THEM FOR 30 DAYS.
I'D PERSONALLY LIKE TO DEAL WITH THIS ITEM LATER.
I THINK SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS, THAT'S A, IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS, YEAH, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME ITEMS ON HERE THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO, SO ON THE OTHER ITEMS, UM, THEY TOW UP TO $14,600 WITHOUT THE, THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE V DRIVES FOR 13 FOUR.
HOLD SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SEE? AYE.
THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR OFFICE FURNITURE.
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ON.BUILDING AND GROUNDS IS REQUESTING A CHEVY SILVERADO.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A FOUR BY FOUR.
UM, CREW CAB VEHICLE FOR $63,000.
A CHEVY SILVERADO HALF TON FOR 50,000.
UH, SMALL TOOLS AND THERE'S SMALL TOOLS ON CAP OF 8,000 GROUNDS EQUIPMENT GROUNDS, EQUIPMENT NON CAP 8,000 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THEIR HVAC EQUIPMENT LINE FOR A TOTAL OF $229,000.
HE HAS THAT SMALL TOOLS IN HERE EVERY YEAR.
I KNOW HE'S GONNA COME BACK UP HERE AGAIN.
JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH Y'ALL, IS THAT HOLD OFF.
WE DO THE HVAC EQUIPMENT, WE DO THE GROUNDS EQUIPMENT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE 50, THE $50,000 TRUCK GROUNDS EQUIPMENT, HVAC GROUNDS, AND HVAC TOTAL OF HUNDRED 58.
SO THE NORTH CONVENIENCE CENTER IS REQUESTING A ROLLER FOR $7,500.
I THOUGHT WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT.
I I THOUGHT WE VOTED ON 50,000 FOR A BACKHOE.
BACKHOE FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
THAT WAS SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
I'M PRETTY SURE PREVIOUS COURT.
I DON'T EVEN, I KNOW WE VOTED ON IT.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ROLLER.
COMMISSIONER HOLT PRECINCT TWO.
COMMISSIONER CONLEY, UH, HAS MADE THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
IT'S A BIG OLD ROUND THING AND YOU CAN ROLL THOSE CANISTERS AND STUFF DOWN INSTEAD OF HAMMERING IT DOWN WITH A BUCKET.
IT'S A PRETTY NEAT LITTLE DEAL.
SO THIS MORNING YOU ALL APPROVED $50,000, UM, TO GO TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A USED, UH, BACKHOE REPAIR ONE THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THEY'VE ALSO, UH, FOR SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER REQUESTED A TRACTOR FOR $30,000.
FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, UM, HAS REQUESTED THREE, I'M GUESSING VEST.
IT SAYS PROTECTIVE CLOTHING FOR $4,500.
THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE A FIRE SUIT OR SOMETHING.
I'M GUESSING THERE'S GRANTS FOR THAT.
I AGREE THAT THE GRANT THAT WE, WELL, THAT WAS A RIFLE.
I THINK THERE, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK TO THAT DISPATCH.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UM, CHAIRS THAT ARE 24 7, UH, FOR $2,000.
EIGHT REGULAR CHAIRS FOR $1,800 REPLACEMENT OF HEADSETS.
UM, SEVEN OF THOSE UNITS FOR 61 86.
MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
CONSTABLE ONE IS REQUESTING A VEHICLE FOR 62,321.
THE OUTFITTING OF THAT VEHICLE.
UM, 8,125 PLUS A BED COVER OF 1400 AND A GRILL GUARD OF 9 83.
AND THEN, UM, A RADIO FOR 96 43 AND AUTO EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY NON CAP FOR 5,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 87,472.
THIS IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED EARLIER.
MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WELL, I JUST ASK HOW MANY OF THOSE THERE'S GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING ON DOWN THE ROAD HERE.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THREE, MAYBE FOUR.
CONSTABLE, DO YOU WANNA TELL US WHY YOU NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE? WE, ALL MY VEHICLES I'VE GOT HERE IN 120,000 MILES TO BEEN HAVING SOME, A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH IT HERE LATELY.
IT'S 17 MODEL THAT WAS THERE WHEN I WENT INTO OFFICE.
THAT CHEVROLET, UH, STEVE, UH, SHANE'S DRIVING RIGHT NOW?
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UM, I DON'T KNOW.I DON'T REMEMBER MY FIRST ON THE NEW VEHICLE.
IF IT SAID RADIO, I THINK IT DID.
IF IT DID, I DO NOT NEED THE SECOND RADIO.
I HAVE A A RADIO TO GO IN THIS NEW TRUCK, THEN I'VE GOT, GOT ONE THAT NEEDED ONE.
YOU'RE ASKING IF IT GOT APPROVED FOR A NEW, NEW, SO YOU'RE TAKING THE RADIO OUT? I'M JUST, I'VE, YEAH, NO, I'VE GOT ANOTHER RADIO THAT I GOT LAST YEAR.
OKAY, SO WE, SO TAKE THIS ONE OUT.
YOU HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THAT? 17 SEEMS LIKE IT'S IN THE SHOP EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND DOING SOMETHING TO IT.
IF I STARTED HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT AND I FIRST GOT IT, REMEMBER THE POWER STEERING WENT OUT ON IT ABOUT 60,000 MILES FOR OUR STEERING, WHICH IS ABOUT $2,000 FOR THAT
SO IF WE REMOVE THAT RADIO FROM THAT, UM, REQUEST, IT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL TO 77,829 UNTIL 2017.
AND IT'LL ACTUALLY GO INTO PRIOR STATUS.
I'LL KEEP IT FOR SPARE, BUT YEAH.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS ON THAT ITEM? WELL, WE HADN'T HAD A SECOND YET THAT THE, THE SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO.
UM, IS REQUESTING A VEHICLE FOR 60,000, THE OUTFITTING OF 20,000, UM, VEHICLE MOUNTS FOR I I
A BALLISTIC SHIELD FOR $1,611.
AND VEHICLE EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY, UH, FOR 5,000, NON CAP 5,000.
HOW DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE, OH, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT.
WE APPROVED THE SOFT BODY ARMOR FOR 6, 9, 600.
MR. HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE VEHICLE, GIVEN THAT THAT'S THE CHUNKIEST PART OF THAT? UM, SO ON THE SHIELD, I DO HAVE 1200 IN THAT LINE CURRENTLY.
I TALKED TO BRIANNA ABOUT IT JUST A SECOND AGO.
THAT MONEY WILL BE ACTUALLY BE GOING BACK.
SO I, I JUST NEED ABOUT $400 ADDITIONALLY FOR THE SHIELD.
UM, AND THEN THE VEHICLE, UH, THE VEHICLE IS JUST, IT JUST REPLACING ONE OF OUR OLDER VEHICLES.
UM, WHAT YEAR MODEL, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF FOR YOU.
I STILL HAVE, I HAVE A 2016, UH, THE TRANSMISSION IS ON ITS LAST LEG.
UM, HOPEFULLY AS SOON AS THE BUDGET GOES THROUGH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REPLACE THE TORQUE CONVERTER IN IT.
UH, HE SAYS THAT THAT WILL SAVE THE TRANSMISSION BEFORE IT GOES OUT.
IF WE CAN MAKE IT, UH, HAVE A 2015.
UM, THIS ONE WOULD BE REPLACING LIKE A 2014 THAT WE HAVE.
I MADE THE MOTION, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
I KNOW YOU AND BRIANNA WERE WORKING TOGETHER, BUT MY MOTION WAS FOR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS FOR CONSTABLE TWO.
WITH THE REVISED SHIELD AMOUNT.
WELL, WELL WE'RE ALL, SO IT'LL STILL BE 1611 SHOWING OVER HERE BECAUSE $1,200 OF THAT IS RUN ROLLING FOR FUND BALANCE FROM THIS CURRENT YEAR TO THE NEXT.
SO IT'LL STILL SHOW UP AT 1611.
THEY DON'T GET TO KEEP THEIRS LIKE WE DO.
YEAH, IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FOAM POT.
SO FOR CONSTABLE THREE, HE'S REQUESTING PROTECTIVE CLOTHING EQUIPMENT, $2,000, $8,500 FOR A RADIO, $3,500 FOR A DESK.
THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING THE $3,600 FOR DEPUTY FULL UNIFORM.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, CAP ON CAP EARLIER, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALLOW, UH, PAYROLL DEDUCTED AND WHAT'S THREE, I THINK PROBABLY COVERED
YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING CAPPED ON CAP EARLIER.
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I MEAN THAT'S THREE, THE 1,201 AT THE 600.I DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO GET LEFT OFF.
SO, UM, A VEHICLE FOR 63,321 OUTFITTING FOR 25,000, AN AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT CONTINGENCY FOR 5,000, WHICH WOULD BRING THAT TO, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE VEHICLE OUTFITTING? YEAH.
PRECINCT ONE IS 8,000 AND THE PRECINCT THREE IS 25,000.
I'M, I COULDN'T TELL YOU, YOU CONSTABLE, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS OR I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEIRS.
I KNOW ON MINE, UH, MINE WILL COME WITH THE CAGES.
SO THE OUTFIT IS CAGES THAT'S IN, IN MINE? YES, SIR.
I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE'S 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING.
MR. HARRIS ALSO DOES SOME TRANSPORT, BUT YOURS IS A PICKUP.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE THREE, THREE IS GONNA BE ANOTHER TAHOE.
IT'S PROB THEY'RE PROBABLY ASKING FOR A TAHOE, I WOULD IMAGINE.
BUT MY QUESTION IS PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE, IT'S 8,000 FOR OUTFITTING, BUT IT'S 25,000 FOR THREE.
SO, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT I PUT IN LAST YEAR, UM, I BELIEVE I HAD ABOUT 12,000.
UH, I'VE HAD TO MOVE MONEY CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR AND I'M UP TO, I BELIEVE IT'S 20, RIGHT AT 20,000 PER CAR BECAUSE THE, THE COST OF EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHATEVER ANYBODY ELSE PUTS IN THEIR CARS.
I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT I'M PUTTING IN.
DOES THAT INCLUDE A RADIO? UH, WE USE THE HANDHELD RADIOS WITH THE CRADLES.
SO YOUR VEHICLE OUTFITTING WOULDN'T INCLUDE THE RADIO? NO, SIR.
THAT'S THE COMPUTER STAND, THE CAGES, LIGHTS, ALL THAT STUFF.
MAYBE PRECINCT ONE DOESN'T HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
SO, UM, SHERIFF ADMINISTRATION, UM, THIS IS MOSTLY SWAT STUFF.
WE HAVE TWO SWAT ENTRY HELMETS FOR $8,000 12 SWAT GAS MASKS FOR 20,640 SWAT TOE HOOKS AND STRAPS FOR SEVEN 50.
SWAT HEAVY TACTICAL VEST, TWO OF THOSE FOR 11,600.
FOUR OF THOSE FOR 23,200 FOR A TOTAL OF 66,790 FOR SWAT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH FOR SPECIAL CRIMES.
THEY'RE NEEDING TWO POLE CAMS FOR 7,205 RIFLE BULLETPROOF VESTS FOR 62 10.
AND THESE VESTS, UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WERE GONNA BE COVERED BY A GRANT, BUT WE GOT, UM, NOTIFICATION THIS WEEK THAT THAT GRANT DIDN'T COME THROUGH.
SO THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE THE ORIGINAL, UM, NOTIFICATIONS ON THESE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SINGER BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YOU HAVE RIFLE RELATED SHIELDS.
TWO OF THOSE FOR 5,800 TOTAL OF $19,210.
OKAY, SAY THAT I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
WE HAD A RIFLE VEST, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE, WE HAD THOUGHT WERE GONNA BE INCLUDED ON A GRANT AND THEY WEREN'T, WE DIDN'T GET THE GRANT.
SO MINE SAYS 5,800 ON RIFLE RATED HERE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, MY NUMBERS WERE OFF.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION, CARRIE ABOUT VOTE FOR INVEST THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION.
UM, CRIME SCENE EQUIPMENT, THEY NEED $4,000.
YOU HAD ALREADY APPROVED A HALF TON TRUCK.
UM, TWO WHEEL DRIVE, A HALF TON TRUCK, FOUR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.
AND THEN THEY HAVE, ARE NEEDING TWO RIFLE, UM, BULLETPROOF VESTS FOR 24 84.
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132,660, WHICH A HUNDRED TWENTY SIX, ONE SEVENTY SIX WAS ALREADY APPROVED.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
HOLD ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
SO FOR PATROL, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING 10 PATROL JACKETS AT $8,600.
THREE DOCKING STATIONS, $2,730.
69 60 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS.
26 STOP STICKS FOR 13,030 BODY ARMOR, UM, VESTS FOR $30,000.
19 OF THE RIFLE BULLETPROOF VEST FOR 23,598.
UH, YOU HAD ALREADY APPROVED VEHICLE COMMAND BOARDS FOR 4,000.
UM, VEHI IN VEHICLE TRAUMA KITS, 20 OF THOSE TO 2,600 PERSONAL TRAUMA KITS.
BEFORE YOU TURN THE PAGE, UH, UH, JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, WHAT IS A PATROL JACKET? SO THE JACKETS WE BUY ARE FROM LAUER.
THERE'S A LIGHT UNDER JACKET THAT THEY CAN WEAR IN LIGHT DUTY WEATHER.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT VERY HEAVY DUTY COAT.
WE'VE, LAST TIME WE BOUGHT 'EM WAS 10 YEARS AGO AND WE'RE STILL USING THE SAME ONES WE BOUGHT BACK THEN, BUT THEY'RE STARTING TO WEAR OUT, SO WE'RE HAVING TO REPLACE 'EM.
PARKER COUNTY ENVELOPES ON IT SAYS SHERIFF ON THE BACK.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S OUR STANDARD DUTY UNIFORM JACKET FOR PATROLLING.
THANK YOU CHIEF, WHILE WE'VE GOT YOU UP THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS LIST THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR ON THIS LIST THAT'S COMING UP HERE THAT YOU DON'T NEED OR THAT YOU CAN PAY FOR IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET HERE? UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I, THAT SHE WAS GOING OVER THIS I REMEMBERED WE BOUGHT WITH THE GRANT FROM TAC, WE ACTUALLY GOT THOSE IN CAR.
NOT THE TRAUMA KITS, BUT WE GOT SOME FIRST AID KITS.
GOT THE YEAH, BUT YOU SHOULD ALREADY REMOVE THAT.
YEAH, WELL I JUST SAW, YEAH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF ORIGINAL ON MY ORIGINAL LIST.
TRAFFIC VEST, UM, THAT WE REMOVED.
SO WE CAN REMOVE THOSE, UH, THOSE IN VEHICLE TRAUMA KITS.
WE REMOVED THE FLASHLIGHTS, WE REMOVED THE TRAFFIC CONES, THE TRAFFIC CONES.
THESE UM, FIVE POINT, WE REMOVED SEVERAL FIREARMS WITH THE, UH, WE REMOVED $30,000 WORTH OF FIREARM REQUEST.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED.
I MEAN THIS IS JUST, UH, A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS REPLACEMENTS LIKE THE VEST, THE SHIELDS, THE JACKETS.
UM, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS TO ADD CAPABILITIES TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS, LIKE THE TENT METERS, UH, THE BREATHALYZERS, MOBILE BREATH TEST, INCAR RADAR UNITS, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE GAS MASKS, THOSE ARE REPLACEMENTS.
THOSE, THAT'S NOT ADDING ANY CAPABILITY TO OUR CURRENT, UH, DEPUTIES.
I HAD A QUESTION ON THE HANDHELD RADARS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT BRAND OR MODELS THOSE ARE? UM, I HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE UH, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK IF YOU KNEW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT JUST TO GET THE DISCUSSION PHASE SO WE CAN, WE CAN PULL IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IN CASE I JUST BY THE OFF OF 5 63.
WHERE WERE THEY? UH OH, THIS 2,600.
OH, WHAT WAS THAT? TOTAL? YOU KNOW, SEVERAL LAWS.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING IF THEY NEEDED THE TOTAL APPROVED, UM, ALTOGETHER FROM THE OTHER DAY AND TODAY, $1,184,172 FOR 5 63.
SO GOING ON TO UM, 5 64, WHICH IS TRAINING FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, FOUR ADJUSTABLE TARGET STANDS.
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TIMERS FOR TWO 60 SIM TRAINING GUN BOLTS.FOUR OF THOSE FOR 1500 SIMS TRAINING ROUNDS, TWO OF THOSE FOR 2240 PAPER TARGETS.
UH, FOUR OF THOSE FOR A THOUSAND AND 180.
TASER TRAINING ROUNDS FOR $7,245.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
UM, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE VEHICLES AND UM, WHAT WE HAVE LEFT IS SUMMER DOG BOXES.
TWO DOG TRAPS FOR 1,206 TRANSFER CASES FOR 600 AT ROPES HALTERS LEADS, CATCH PULLS, BIKE GLOVES, 1500 FOR A TOTAL OF 1 54 AND $44 TOTAL WITH THE VEHICLE.
INCLUDED IN ADDITION OF TODAY WOULD BE $14,100.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR,
SO COURTHOUSE SECURITY, THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE OF THE RI RIFLE BULLETPROOF VEST FOR $6,210.
10 FOR CO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF FIVE 60.
WE HAVE A, I DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE A 5 67, BUT I DON'T, OKAY, I'LL MARK THAT.
UH, IF YOU DID TRANSPORT, UM, IS NEEDING THREE APPLE AIR TAGS FOR $600, HOW FAR WILL THEM TAG PICK UP? YOU GO TWO OR 300 MILES OR SO.
ANYBODY WHO HAS AN AN APPLE PRODUCT, IT'LL PICK IT UP.
LEMME TELL YOU WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS.
WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF OUR TRANSPORT COMPANIES PICK UP AN INMATE, ONE STATE.
AND WHEN THEY LANDED IN THE AIRPORT, THE UH, INMATE TOOK OFF RUNNING AND THEY FOUND HER DOWN A COUPLE MILES DOWN THE ROAD AT A, THEIR RESTAURANT.
AND UH, THE RE HOW THEY FOUND HER WAS THEY INSTALLED THE APPLE AIR TAGS IN THEIR BELLY BELTS.
AND SO WE'RE LIKE, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.
WE'RE GONNA INSTALL IN OUR BELLY BELTS AND YEAH, IF YOU PASS ANY APPLE PRODUCT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, BLUETOOTH RANGE, IT'S GONNA PICK UP THAT LOCATION ON APPLE AIR TAG AND REPORT IT BACK TO WHOEVER HAS THAT ASSIGNED TO 'EM.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.
WELL, WELL I HAD TO ANNOUNCE THE, BUT I MEAN FOR JUST THAT DEPARTMENT, I STILL HAVE MORE.
WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
SO WE ALSO NEED TO ADD, UH, $500 WORTH OF HANDCUFFS.
LEG IRONS, BELLY BELTS, AND, UH, THREE OF THE RAFFLE BELT.
THEIR TOTAL WITH THE TWO VEHICLES AND TWO OUTFITTINGS THAT WAS APPROVED LAST COURT, UM, IS 133,754.
IS THAT, THAT, THAT, OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
UH, THE SECOND IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL ON PAPER.
UM, THE NORTH OFFICE IS REQUESTING $3,000 FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.
SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS ONE SLOWLY.
IT'S IT'S BUDGET OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER IT RELATED BUDGET.
THEY AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY HAVE REQUESTED A CHEVY TRAX VEHICLE.
THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED EIGHT OFFICE CHAIRS FOR $1,600.
HOW MANY BUDGETS DOES HE HAVE?
JAMES, DO YOU HAVE, I HAVE IT SHOW A RADIO ON YOUR BUDGET.
THIS IS A LINE FOR NON CAP STUFF.
IT WAS MOVED FROM DEPARTMENT 5 43 FIRE MARSHAL INTO YOUR BUDGET.
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IT FROM 5 43 TO YOUR BUDGET.Y'ALL GONNA STAY ON THE FLOOR? NO.
UM, DO YOU WANT THE FILING CABINET? NO.
SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR $40,000 ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, NON CAP CONTINGENCY.
YOU HAD ALREADY APPROVED CAP CONTINGENCY FOR 40,000, BUT NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR NON CAP.
UM, THEY NEED A HUNDRED OF THOSE.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR $2,900 FOR STARLINK HIGH PERFORMANCE DISH EQUIPMENT RADIO TOWER 40 GATE RUGGED SWITCHES FOR THROUGH TOTAL VERDE OF 17,000 102 89.
RADIO TOWER NETWORK OF 25,000 AND THEN $200,000.
RADIO TOWER NON CAP CONTINGENCY.
YOU APPROVED THE TWO 50 AND CAPPED EARLIER TODAY.
THIS WOULD BE NON CAP WISH I MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 6 23 9 0 2 89.
ALL IN FAVOR? MINE'S NOT WORKING.
OH, UM, HOW MUCH MORE YOU GOT KIM? JUST UP A LITTLE BIT.
IS WHAT WELL, WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE.
PERMITTING IS ASKING FOR A SPECTRA LASER LEVEL FOR $700 AND A F-150 VEHICLE FOR 52,711.
MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT TO GET THE DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION.
FIVE OH, COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE IS ASKING FOR A FORD EXPLORER $39,000 AND A SHIPPING CONTAINER FOR $5,500 FOR A TOTAL OF 45,000.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
WHAT I WOULD OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S IT ON CAP AND NON CAP? YES.
WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE, WITH SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS OF SOME COMMISSIONERS HERE THAT, UM, CAN WE, WE'VE GOT THIS NARROWED DOWN PRETTY CLOSE.
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FEEDBACK FROM THE COURT ON JUST ONE ITEM? OKAY, GO AHEAD.BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, GO AHEAD.
UM, I NEED TO, WELL, SO, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS WE HAVE OUTSTANDING IS THE, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE PAY SCALE.
WE, UH, WE'VE VISITED, OR I'VE VISITED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.
IF WE GO TO THE STEP IN GRADE, THAT'S BEEN THE NEWLY REVISED STEP IN GRADE.
THAT'S A CHANGE VERSUS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
UM, AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE CHIEF DEPUTY ON A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHAT, WHAT THEY RELAYED TO ME IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE COURT TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT, THAT STEP IN GRADE NEEDS TO BE AT.
RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 1.5 MILLION.
SO WHAT'S A NUMBER THAT WE WOULD LIKE BECKY TO RUN IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO RUN AS TO WHAT THAT STEP IN GRADE, WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT STEP IN GRADE CAN BE AT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF WE TAKE THE CURRENT STEP IN GRADE MODEL AND, AND ADJUST IT SO THAT INSTEAD OF GOING UP BY 1.5 MILLION, IT ONLY GOES UP BY 500,000 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, WHAT DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT
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NUMBERS WISE NEXT WEEK TO MAKE A DECISION ON? AND SO I DON'T CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE THAT DECISION BY MYSELF.I WANTED TO PROPOSE IT TO Y'ALL AND SEE IF THERE WAS A NUMBER IN Y'ALL'S MIND THAT CAME UP.
WELL, I I'D SAY A MILLION LOWEST.
THAT'S JUST, JUST MY, IT'S 1.5.
I DON'T, I'M NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH HOW MUCH WE JUST RAISED OUR FUND BALANCE WITHDRAWAL RIGHT NOW.
HOW MUCH? 7.1 WE WANT 1.1 MILLION.
I I I'M TELLING YOU MAN, WE'RE, WE HAVE 11.2 MILLION THAT WE'VE OCCURRED, THEY NEED TO BE PAID FOR WHAT THEY DO.
YOU SAID THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE.
NO, I APPRECIATE IT AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEY NEED TO BE PAID.
UM, I GET YELLED AT SOMETIMES, BUT NOBODY SHOOTS ME OR SHOOTS AT ME.
SO THESE GUYS GO OUT WITH, WITH GUNS AND BADGES AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE EQUIPPED AND PAID TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HALF MILLION AND A MILLION.
I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING HERE AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM.
IT'S AS HARDEST IT'S EVER BEEN.
WELL WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA COME FROM ON BALANCE.
WELL, BUT THIS IS A RECURRING COST AND EVERY TIME YOU TAKE A RE RECURRING AMOUNT FROM FUND BALANCE, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM FUND BALANCE NEXT YEAR TOO OR FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT TO RAISE TAXES.
THAT'S THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THINGS WE HAVE.
AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT FROM FUND BALANCE VERY LONG.
AND TO COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S POINT ABOUT RECURRING, 70% OF THE REASON WE'RE IN THE MESS THAT WE'RE IN IS BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CAPACITY AROUND OUR JAIL.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SOLVE IN 12 MONTHS.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY WAY WE CAN SOLVE IT IN 12 MONTHS.
SO ANYTHING WE DO THIS YEAR, WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH NEXT YEAR AND LIKELY THE YEAR AFTER, BEFORE WE START TO SEE RELIEF ON THAT JAIL NUMBER, WHICH IS ONLY GONNA GO UP NEXT YEAR.
AND WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, WHICH WE ASK THAT QUESTION AND GOT THAT ANSWERED FOR US.
BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO BE FAIR WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE.
UH, WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY.
I THINK THAT 4%, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS A BARE MINIMUM.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THAT'S A SEPARATE CATEGORY AND UM, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T GET SHOT AT, MY GUYS DON'T GET SHOT AT.
AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE FOLKS WHO DO.
GEORGE'S HAS EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT AT, I THINK APPRECIATE THREATENED WITH A BELT BUCKLE
I THOUGHT YOU HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT GOT SHOT AT A FEW YEARS AGO.
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE 4% AND THE MILLION DOLLARS RANGE.
WE COULD, WE'D BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND HAVE WHAT
IS THAT, DID I I I DIDN'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR YOU.
IS ANYTHING Y'ALL WOULD CARE TO ADD? NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.
WELL, THEY'LL TAKE WHATEVER WE GIVE 'EM, BUT, BUT I AIN'T COMING OFF THAT.
ME AND MYSELF, I HAVE ONE OTHER, NOT ABOUT THIS, NOT ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I, I, I THINK, ARE WE GOOD? I THINK THE COURT WAS AT A CONSENSUS THEN.
THE 4% CO I THINK IN MY NOTES I HAD 6 21.
AND IF EACH HAS A NATURAL BASE OF TWO AS AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES, MY 2%, I'VE GOT 310,000 THERE, WHICH TAKES IT TO 931,000.
SO THE MILLION DOLLARS ISN'T MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE COAL IS KEEPING WITH THE 2% STEP AND PAY IF I'M READING IT RIGHT.
AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER WALDEN TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, MAX SALARIES AND HOLDING THINGS TO MAX SALARIES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIONS ON THAT PAY GRADE THAT BY THAT WAY IT WOULD, THEY WOULD GET 4% JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTY GOT.
BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, DO HAVE AN ANNIVERSARY RAISE, YES THEY'RE GONNA GET 4% ON OCTOBER ONE, THEN THEY WOULD GET ANOTHER 2% ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WAS STILL READING MY MEMORY RIGHT.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT'S, I MEAN I'LL, I CAN RERUN
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'EM BUT UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS I GAVE YOU EACH A SHEET OF PAPER FOR THE ADDITIONAL RAISES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED PRIOR TO TODAY.Y'ALL WANTED TO LOOK AT THOSE TO SEE IF Y'ALL WERE GONNA PUT THE COLA ON TOP OF 'EM AND JUST SO WE CAN TAKE SOME STUFF BACK AND START BALANCING SOME BUDGETS AND AUDITING SOME BUDGETS TO GET GOING ON THIS PROCESS.
ARE Y'ALL READY TO DECIDE ON THAT? I THINK, UH, YEAH IT WAS DONE AT THE BOTTOM OF MY PILE HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
EVERYBODY ALREADY GOT FOUR OR YOU KNOW, SOME WELL OVER FOUR.
SO I SUGGEST THE ANSWER TO THAT'S NO, THAT'S WHAT I SUGGEST.
WE'LL LEAVE IT AT A NO I THINK AND JUST LEAVE IT THE SALARY THAT WAS APPROVED.
IF THEY GOT A SALARY INCREASE MORE THAN 4% OR A RECLASSIFICATION FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE ONE WE DID PREVIOUSLY, LIKE FOR THE JP THREE POSITION, JUST HOLD IT AT THAT.
YOU GOT A SIGNIFICANT RAISE ALREADY.
THERE'S SOME DOUBLE DIPPING OTHERWISE, CORRECT.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NOW? WELL GIVEN THE, WITH THE TIME CONSTRAINTS OF COMMISSIONER, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO, CAN WE MOVE THIS TO OUR REMAINING BUSINESS TO UH, THE NEXT MEETING ON THIS? CAN I REAL QUICK, BACK TO CAP AND NON CAP, UM, FOR THE AUTO REGISTRATION EXPANSION, BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING TO REMOVE SOME OF THE BUILT IN, UM, TELLER AREAS.
SHE'S GONNA NEED DESKS TO REPLACE THOSE ITEMS AND HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL BE COVERED BY INSURANCE, BUT THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT IT'S NOT.
SO SHE'S REQUESTING 16 DESK AT 21,000 376 16.
SO WITH THE EXPANSION SHE'S GONNA HAVE 16 TELLER WINDOW.
SHE'S PRETTY NEEDY ISN'T SHE?
NO, THEY'LL BE, THESE ARE GONNA BE STANDALONE DESKS, STANDALONE DESKS SO THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS LIKE THIS, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE WHOLE BUT THEY COULD BE PAID FOR BY INSURANCE COULD A POTENTIAL PART OF IT.
A PORTION OF IT COULD BE PAID FOR BY INSURANCE.
WHEN WOULD WE KNOW THAT? HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THE ENGINEER'S REPORT BACK BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH.
THE BUDGET WILL BE DETERMINE WHAT'S COVERED IN THE CLAIM AND WHAT'S NOT.
SO YOUR DECISION AT HAND IS, IS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS WITH THE UH, POSITIVE OR I GUESS THE EXPECTATION HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN GET SOME INSURANCE MONEY.
SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? JUST SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF CONTINGENCY? IT WOULD HAVE TO MOVE IT.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE IN BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO WE HAVE A SECOND ABOUT HOLT.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? SO ARE THERE NOT, I MEAN SHE DOES, I KNOW THERE'S SOME FREESTANDING DESKS OVER THERE NOW.
YEAH, THOSE WOULD, WELL ONE OF 'EM I THINK GOT RUINED BECAUSE IT WAS UP AGAINST THE WALL THAT HAD THE MOLD.
SO THERE'S MOLD ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
UM, THE OTHER ONE WASN'T AGAINST THAT WALL.
SO THAT WOULD BE IT'S ONE'S TO MATCH THOSE SO THAT ONE WOULD BE CARRIED FORWARD AND USED.
BUT THIS, THIS IS, UH, 16 FOR 21,000.
SO WE'RE TALKING 1300 BUCKS A POP.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN OUR VERY NICE PRECINCT TWO BARN, BUT MY CONFERENCE TABLE IS A FOLDOUT TABLE.
UH, IS THERE THE ABILITY FOR US TO GO WITH A LESS EXPENSIVE DESK, A $200 DESK AND JUST RAMP UP OVER TIME? UH, YOU WOULD NEED TO TALK TO HER.
WELL THE THING ABOUT THIS IS WE'RE ABOUT TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE PUT IN OR MOVED AND PROBABLY FOR SIX MONTHS AT LEAST.
THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THAT AT THAT TIME, IF IT WERE REQUIRED, IT COULD BE TAKEN FROM CONTINGENCY.
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NO ACTION ON THAT.AND I JUST HAD ONE OTHER, UM, ISSUE.
UH, YOU ALL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE POSITION OF THE BUDGET GRANT POSITION, BUT Y'ALL DID NOT VOTE ON THE UH, CAP, ON CAP THAT GOES WITH THAT POSITION OR IT'S A TOTAL OF $3,771 FOR A CHAIR, A DESK, A DESKTOP, TWO MONITORS, AND A RUGGED, NON RUGGED LAPTOP.
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT WE CAN FIND A LAP OR A LAPTOP OR THERE'S GOTTA BE ONE SOMEWHERE.
WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION'S MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
UM, I'LL SECOND FOR JUST IN THE DISCUSSION STAGE, BUT I, I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE A DESK AROUND SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN FIT IN AND UH, GET THEM INTO.
I JUST, I I I WOULD ASK THAT WE TAKE NO, WELL OTHER, WELL LET ME BACK UP FOR THE COMPUTER.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA NEED THAT.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LAYING AROUND.
UM, BUT UM, AND IT'S GONNA NEED, I'VE GOT A TO BE A GOOD ONE.
HOLD I SAY JACOB, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE MOTION, UH, IN THE SECOND BE FOR THE COMPUTER ONLY AND WE'LL WE WILL GET IT, WE'LL GET IT FIGURED OUT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SO COMPUTER ONLY KIM.
AYE YEAH, IT DOES TO BE A TOTAL OF $1,802.
ITEM THREE ON THE, CAN WE GO BACK TO JENNY? SHE RESPONDED.
UM, THE DESK THAT SHE GOT WERE THE MOST, WERE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
NOT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY HAVE A 12, 12 YEAR WARRANTY WITH THEM.
THEY ALL LAST LIFETIME THAT PRICE.
I WOULD ASK, GO TO ITEM THREE AND MOVE TO ADJOURN, MOVE RECORDS SHOW THAT.
WE'LL PLEASE LET, WE JUST NEED, UM, SOMETHING NOT WE CAN, WE CAN GET RICH TO GET THAT SET UP AND WE'LL GET THE NOTIFICATION.
RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN ADJOURNED AT 10 53.