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GOOD AFTERNOON.I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING, UH, FOR THIS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024.
LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS ONE O'CLOCK, UM, TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, ON ITEM
[I.A. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 3)]
ONE, UH, WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO IT ON DISCUSSING, APPROVE THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 24 25 FISCAL YEAR.BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON ITEM A? I'M SURE YOU DO.
SO I'VE PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH A SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES SINCE THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
UM, I EMAILED THIS OUT YESTERDAY AS WELL.
UM, AND SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE WHERE THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE FROM THE LAST MEETING, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT SO THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE MOST RECENT CHANGES.
SO WE HAVE, UH, TOTAL SALARY ADJUSTMENTS OF ALMOST 2.8 MILLION, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLAR, UM, CHANGE IN OPERATING EXPENSE ADJUSTMENTS, AND THEN FROM ALL THE CAP, NON CAP AND IT, INCLUDING A COUPLE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS BEING, UH, THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS OF THE HALF A MILLION, AND THEN THE HALF A MILLION FOR AUTO REGISTRATION REMODEL, AS WELL AS THE, UM, PARKING LOT FOR THE NEW ELECTIONS SLASH SO BUILDING.
AND SO THAT BRINGS TOTAL, UM, APPROVALS TO 5.6 MILLION I CANNOT SEE.
UM, AND THEN NEW EMPLOYEE CAP ON CAP OF HALF A MILLION.
AND THEN YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A COUPLE RE REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS.
UM, ONE OF 'EM SB 22 FOR THE HALF A MILLION, WHICH WILL COVER, UM, A PORTION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE VEHICLES.
UM, THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE 9 1 1 RECORDER.
AND THEN, UM, I RECEIVED AN UPDATE, I BELIEVE IT WAS YESTERDAY, UM, FOR A REDUCTION FOR THE ALITO PATROL CONTRACT.
AND SO EVERY, IS IT EVERY TWO YEARS THERE'S A VEHICLE REIMBURSEMENT? YES.
AND SO IT WAS, UM, NEEDED TO BE ADJUSTED DOWN FOR THAT ONE SINCE IT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT YEAR.
UM, AND THEN ROLLOVERS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET OF ABOUT 1.1 MILLION.
SO THAT BRINGS, AT THIS POINT, UM, TOTAL APPROVALS OF 10.9 MILLION WITH A USE OF FUND BALANCE OF 6.8.
UNDER THIS ITEM, UH, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT ON THIS
[I.B. Discuss/Vote on Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough /Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]
UNDER ITEM B ON DISCUSS AND VOTE ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES.IS THERE ANY UPDATES ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE OR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I KNOW THERE'S SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE THAT WILL SPEAK ON THEIR PARTICULAR ITEMS. THE ONLY THING NEW THAT KIND OF QUESTION CAME TO ME, UM, THAT REALLY HADN'T BEEN DISCUSSED WITH SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE PART-TIME MONEY AND WHETHER OR NOT A 4%, 4% INCREASE WOULD BE PUT ON THOSE PART-TIME LINES.
I DID PROVIDE Y'ALL A QUICK LITTLE SHEET OF WHAT DEPARTMENTS THAT, THAT WOULD AFFECT AND A 4% INCREASE TO THEIR LINE, AND THEN THEY COULD KIND OF, THAT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF AREA TO WHERE THEY COULD PROVIDE MAYBE A QUARTER OR 50 CENT RAISE OR SOMETHING TO SOME OF THEIR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES IF THEY CHOSE TO.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT TOTAL COST ON IT.
THE SALARIES WOULD BE 5,170 IS WOULD, WE WOULD DIVIDE IT BETWEEN THOSE FOUR.
AND, UM, TOTAL COST WOULDN'T BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
I'M MOVE TO APPROVE THAT ITEM MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY FOR APPROVAL A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.
I KNOW, UM, JUDGE GREEN IS HERE.
OBVIOUSLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR STEPPING GRADE AS FAR AS JUST UNDER THIS ITEM, UM, AS WELL AS THE CONSTABLES.
THEY MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, AND THEN I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE FOR NEW EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
I WANT TO AT THIS POINT NOW, UM, JUST IN RESPECT OF THE TIME AND THE, UH, YOU'VE
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BEEN HERE FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY MEETING, WE'VE KIND OF MOVED AROUND YOU.[ I.C. Discuss/Vote on Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) (Part 1 of 2)]
IF YOU WOULD COME UP, I KNOW WE'RE ON GENERAL FIND UPDATES.I'M GONNA, I GUESS FOR TRYING TO FIND MINE IS REALLY FIT IN REALLY NEW EMPLOYER REQUEST, CORRECT? YES.
YEAH, I'M TRYING TO, I GUESS TO FIT THAT, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM A, JUST UNDER GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES.
IT WOULD, THAT WOULD PROBABLY WHERE IT WOULD FIT IN.
UH, IF YOU WOULD, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF, YOU, YOU PRESENTED TO US ALREADY ONCE OR TWICE.
I, I DON'T WANNA, UM, BELABOR ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED, BUT JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING AN AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE.
UM, LAST BUDGET CYCLE, WE ASKED FOR TWO NEW EMPLOYEES.
UH, WE GOT ONE AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
SO I'M BACK AGAIN TO ASK FOR THAT SECOND ONE.
UM, JUST IN GENERAL, WE'RE SEEING AN UPTICK IN CASES FILED AND THE ACTIVITY ON THOSE CASES.
AND SO WE NEED SOME EXTRA HELP IN GETTING THOSE PROCESSED.
SO I, AGAIN, JUST, AND YOU AND I HAVE TALKED, WE JUST BASICALLY, 'CAUSE WE WENT, JUST WENT RIGHT AROUND YOU ON SOME OF THIS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND WITH THAT COMES CONFLICT AND MORE LAWSUITS AND CASES THAT GO WITH THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST RISING TO MEET THAT NEED OF INCREASED ACTIVITY.
WELL, AND JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR BEHALF WITH THIS REQUEST IS IS THAT WE HAVE LISTENED AND, UM, FOR SOME, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE GROWTH AND WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO FOR, UH, NEW EMPLOYEES, UH, TO FILL POSITION OR NEW POSITIONS THAT IS, AND, UH, YOURS IS NO DIFFERENT.
WE'RE, UM, REVENUE GENERATING AND, UM, REALLY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN BEING VERY EFFICIENT WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, YOU GEN YOUR REVENUE THAT YOU'VE GENERATED WITH KEEPING THE EXISTING EMPLOYEES HAS BEEN RIGHT.
WE ADDED ON PASSPORTS A FEW YEARS AGO AND Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND DID SO WITHOUT, UH, INCREASING OUR STAFF.
AND IT'S JUST AS TIME ROLLS ON, WE JUST, WE HAVE MORE VOLUME.
SO WHAT IS THE, UM, THE, THE SALARY REQUEST? THIS JUST TO THAT POINT, THIS IS UNDER ITEM C THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR ON, NOT A OWN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST ENTERING NEW POSITIONS.
THAT'S WHICH ONE WE'RE UNDER IS THE NEW POSITIONS.
UM, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, THE, THE SALARY REQUEST IS 55,661 FOR A TOTAL COST OF 93.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CAP, WHICH WOULD BRING IT TO 94,574.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT POSITION, UH, THAT'S BEING REQUESTED BY THE, UH, THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, AT LEAST GET US TO WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS? COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S MADE THIS SECOND.
WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THIS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
YOU, YOU'VE BEEN HERE JUST VIRTUALLY NEARLY EVERY MEETING.
I MISSED, I MISSED THE LAST ONE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND TRIED TO BE AS CAUTIOUS OR AS CONSERVATIVE AS WE CAN BE ON NEW EMPLOYEE, UM, IN BRINGING THE, THE WINE AND, AND LOOKING AT THE NEED OF THAT.
AND IT'S COUNTYWIDE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING.
AND, UH, YOUR DEPARTMENT'S SO DIFFERENT AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH ME.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND EVERYTHING, AND I, BUT I'D ASK THE COURT, WE'RE TAKING $6,800,000 OUT OF, UH, FUND BALANCE.
WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED TO APPROVE THIS ONE? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'LL BE CLOSING IN ON $7 MILLION TO TAKE OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
WHO, WHO YOU GONNA, WHO YOU GONNA TURN DOWN THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED TO APPROVE THIS ONE? I, I, I, THAT'S, IT IS A GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, IT GOES BACK TO ASSESSING THE NEEDS, UM, IN, I THINK AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, WITH A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.
I, AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE YANK OUT 7, 8, 9, I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT.
I'M JUST LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE NEED ASSESSMENT OF WHAT, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IS LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, I APPRECIATE AND VALUE THAT APPROACH THAT WE WE'RE TAKING AND YOU'RE TAKING YEAH.
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BUT WE, WE JUST, AND LIKE MANY DEPARTMENTS, IT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD, WHICH HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL BY WHAT JAMES HAS DONE, AND I CAN GO THROUGH AND LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF THAT WAS IN THIS ROOM OF WHAT THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE DONE.AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A JUSTIFIABLE NEED HERE THAT, UH, THAT THE REDDER VIEW GENERATION THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE HAS BEEN DONE WITH EXISTING EMPLOYEES THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU NO LONGER CAN MEET THAT NEED.
AND SO I, I, I JUST TO YOUR, YOU HAVE A VERY VALID POINT, AND I'M, I THINK THE NEED OF THIS, UH, OUTWEIGHS WHERE, UH, WE JUST HAVE, JUST HAVE TO FIND IT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA PUT THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE, BUT THERE'S A NEED RIGHT HERE STARING RIGHT, RIGHT AT YOU.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
THE ANSWER IS WE'RE WE'RE 6.8 MILLION OUT OF FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH OTHER PEOPLE LINED UP TO TALK.
ARE THERE ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO GIVE UP ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES? HE ASKED US WHO WE WAS GONNA TAKE IT FROM.
ARE THERE ANY VOLUNTEERS? WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY QUITE THE, WHAT, WHAT I SAID, BUT THAT'S WHAT I SAID, SAID, I SAID, WHO, WHO WE GONNA TAKE IT? WHERE WE GONNA TAKE IT FROM? WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING? YEAH.
I WAS ASKING, I'M GOING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, UH, CUTE OR FUNNY OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.
UM, SO I, I, I WANNA SUPPORT EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT UP HERE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO.
COME SAY, I NEED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE, OR I NEED TO PAY, YOU KNOW, THESE, EACH OF THESE ARE LEGITIMATE.
THERE ARE, I'M, AGAIN, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU WE'RE AT, WE'RE AT A BREAKING POINT HERE, THE WAY I SEE IT, UH, $6.8 MILLION WITH OTHER CAPITAL REQUESTS THAT WE ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE, I THINK.
I'M JUST, IF, IF I KNEW I WOULD GIVE YOU THE ANSWER, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT OTHER THAN IT, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM FUND BALANCE AND IT'S GOING TO ADD TO WHAT IS ALREADY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT.
IT'S NOT A ONETIME COST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHERS.
BUT, AND, AND HATE FOR YOU TO BE THERE, SERENA, BUT I, I, AGAIN, I I DREW THE LUCK OF STRONG OUT.
DIDN'T I UNDERSTAND YEAHAND, Y'ALL SOME POINT IN TIME HERE, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO SAY NO TO SOME OF THESE REQUESTS AT SOME POINT.
UNLESS Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR 'EM.
WE, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO PAY FOR 'EM THIS YEAR, BUT THEN YOU GOTTA PAY FOR 'EM NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT, AGAIN, I, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH YOUR NEEDS, WHAT THEY ARE.
UH, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE UNLESS YOU NEEDED IT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT TOO, BECAUSE IT IS A RECURRING COST.
IT'S GONNA BE HITTING US EVERY YEAR, UH, WHEN WE DO THESE DECISIONS ON NEW EMPLOYEES.
AND, UH, FORTUNATELY FOR SOME OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THAT AND NOT HAVE THAT RECURRING COST COME BACK TO US AND HIT US AGAIN.
UM, BUT THIS IS, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME CAPS THAT ARE COMING TO US TODAY THAT WE'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH THAT ARE PROBABLY, UH, HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HEARD 'EM, BUT I'M GUESSING THERE'S SOME, SO I'LL TELL YOU THIS, IF, IF, IF HOWEVER THIS VOTE GOES, IT COULD BE FLIPPED LATER ON IN THE MEETING TODAY.
AND I HAD THAT, BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH.
I'M, I'M, I WOULD RATHER NOT DO THIS, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, UM, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS AND THEN COME BACK TO THIS, WE WILL.
BUT, UH, I DON'T, I IN JEOPARDY OF IT FAILING.
I, I WOULD RATHER DO THAT AND, AND ASSESS THAT AND THEN COME BACK WITH A MORE, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.
IF THIS IS A POSITION THAT WE NEED, UH, RATHER THAN TAKE THIS BOAT NOW YOU'RE JUST PUSHING IT DOWN THE ROAD.
LET'S JUST, BUT IT IS NOT GONNA CHANGE.
IT'S WHAT IT'S MIGHT, IT COULD VERY WELL CHANGE.
I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO BE ON DECK IF YOU WANNA CIRCLE BACK AROUND HERE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE CAN TAKE IT AWAY IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, SENA, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SHARED.
WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN MORE NUMBERS THAN I KNEW THERE WERE NUMBERS.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA THAT YOU CAN SHARE THAT EXPLAINS THE NEED AS FAR AS PERCENT INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR? YES.
YOU HANDLED THIS MANY CASES WITH THIS MANY PEOPLE.
NOW WE'RE AT X MANY MORE CASES.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 6% YEAR OVER YEAR OF NEW CASES FILED.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTING OUR, THE CRIMINAL SIDE, UM, TO GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY THIS YEAR.
AND IT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF POPULATION WITH EACH OF THOSE CASES COME THE GUTS OF THE CASE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST GETTING A CASE SET UP.
IT, IT'S A CONTINUING PROCESS.
WHEN, UM, I ASKED THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME DATA, UM, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY OPERATING AT ABOUT WHAT'S THREE DISTRICT COURTS WORTH, UM, IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE NEED OF THE, THE
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COUNTY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT AT THAT POINT OF ABOUT THREE DISTRICT COURTS.UM, I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE AND CALLED SOME OTHER DISTRICT CLERKS OF SIMILAR SIZE AND POPULATION, AND THAT THEY WERE AT THAT TWO TO FOUR RANGE OF, UM, DISTRICT COURTS.
AND MOST OF THEM HAD SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EMPLOYEES THAN WE DO.
UM, 'CAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A, A FEEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ISN'T OUT OF THE NORM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE PROBABLY HAVE THREE TO FIVE FEWER EMPLOYEES THAN MOST OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED DISTRICT CLERKS.
AND, UM, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING PASSPORTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR, THEIR COURTS.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE PASSPORTS AND WE HAVE JURIES AND WE HAVE TWO DEDICATED JURY CLERKS TO MANAGE ALL OF THE JURY, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT BEING EFFICIENT AND GETTING OUR BUSINESS DONE, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF AT THAT POINT NOW THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE.
THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED WAS HAVING TO DO SOME WORK ON AFTER, AFTER HOURS, SIR, ON WEEKENDS AND THOSE YES, SIR.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY WORKING, UM, ON THE WEEKENDS TO DOUBLE CHECK FOR NEW FILINGS.
UM, IN LIGHT OF THAT FEDERAL LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED AGAINST SEVERAL DISTRICT CLERKS ACROSS THE STATE, UM, IT WAS BASED ON MAKING SURE NEW CASES GET TIMELY PROCESSED, THAT, THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE PUBLICLY.
WE WERE WELL WITHIN, AND WE HAVE BEEN WELL WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME OF THE, UM, JCIT, THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
BASICALLY THEY SET THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW FOR E-FILING AND, AND GETTING THINGS PROCESSED.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WELL WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN ON THIS MEASURE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN A SITUATION THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THINGS FAST ENOUGH AND THAT WE HAVE COMPLAINTS COMING FROM NEWS AGENCIES OR OTHER OUTSIDE SOURCES.
UM, I, I WOULD RATHER HAVE AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE THAN FIND OURSELVES IN A LAWSUIT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL WORK HAS COME IN ON THE WEEKENDS, IS TO TRY TO OFFSET THAT.
SO WELL TRY TO, WELL, GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY, JUST TO GET TO, TO GET TO THE NUMBERS PART OF IT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TWO FOLKS RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CALLED, AND I'M NOT COUNTING PASSPORTS.
YOU CALLED SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICT CLERKS OF SIMILARLY SIZED COUNTIES.
AND THEY HAD THREE TO FIVE MORE IS WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY.
SO THEY HAVE FIVE TO SEVEN AND YOU HAVE TWO, NO, I'M SORRY, MORE TOTAL EMPLOYEES WORKING ON THEIR, ON THEIR COURTS.
SO WE HAVE, THEY HAVE THREE TO FIVE TOTAL.
YOU HAVE TWO? NO, NO, I'M SORRY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, 10 TO 11 EMPLOYEES DOING THEIR DAY-TO-DAY JOB IS COURT WORK.
WE HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE SOME FILL IN FROM OUR JURY FOLKS FROM OUR PAST SUPPORT FOLKS, BUT THAT'S LIKE THEIR DAY-TO-DAY JOB, SIMILAR SIZE COUNTIES HAVE LIKE 12 TO 16 JUST FOR THE COURT OPERATIONS AND NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
JURY, UM, PASSPORTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND KEEP IN MIND TOO, WE, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET TO PUT MORE AND GET MORE SUPPORT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND, AND THAT LEADS TO MORE WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I MAGISTRATE EVERY WEEK AND I'VE BEEN TO THE JAIL TWO DAYS IN A ROW NOW, AND I, I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
I'M SURE JUDGE GREEN AND THE OTHER, UM, JPS AND WHO'S ON THAT ROTATION CAN ATTEST TO THAT, THAT, UH, THE GROWTH IN THAT IN IS, IS, IS MOUNTING UP AND, UH, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
BUT OUR INVESTMENT INTO THAT IS LEADING TO MORE WORK FOR YOUR OFFICE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL.
UM, REGARDING THAT, ON THE WEEKEND, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION, OR MAYBE, MAYBE YOU'D STATED BEFORE, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE TIMING AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO TURN IT OVER.
SO IF THE CASE COMES IN LATE ON A FRIDAY, THEN YOU'RE POTENTIALLY OUT OF THAT.
AND IF THE STANDARDS WOULD ALLOW US TO BE, UH, ACCEPTING THAT AND PROCESSING IT ON A MONDAY MM-HMM.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY OF WHAT, WHAT THESE LAWSUITS ARE ABOUT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HAVING SOMEBODY.
IF A NEW LAWSUIT COMES IN AT FIVE 30 ON FRIDAY RIGHT.
THEY'RE WORKING THAT, AND ONCE WE ACCEPT IT, THEN IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, UM, TO SEE.
SO, SO THEN IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY FOLKS YOU HAVE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING THOSE ON THE WEEKEND RIGHT? WHEN THEY COME IN AT, UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS ACCRUING OVERTIME, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT AND BE ABLE TO FLEX IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IF, IF YOU'VE GOT WEEKEND DUTY, MAYBE YOU'RE LEAVING EARLIER IN THE WEEK TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WEEKEND DUTY AND NOT ACCRUE OVERTIME.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, MY MOTION'S GONNA STAY.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER, YOU WANNA KEEP YOUR SECOND? ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MY DISCUSSION IS STILL THE SAME.
I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE THINGS FLYING AT US HERE.
SO IF SOMETHING GETS APPROVED NOW, IT COULD BE, I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE POSITION.
I'M OPPOSED TO FIGURING OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT, WHERE, WHERE THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM.
SO I WOULD AGREE AND JUST WANT TO CIRCLE BACK.
WE DID APPROVE ONE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE THE OTHER DAY.
WE THOUGHT IT WASN'T TWO LAST YEAR.
YEAH, LAST YEAR THE REQUEST WAS TWO AND ONE WAS APPROVED.
CAN'T READ MY OWN CHICKEN SCRATCH.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP.
YOU ASKED FOR TWO LAST YEAR? YES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR A MOTION PASSES THREE, THREE TO TWO.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO, UH, THE ON ITEM, JUST TO BE SURE WE'RE COVERING THIS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE VOTE ON SALARIES OR BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES BEFORE WE MOVE DOWN THE WE CLOSE THAT OUT.
I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM C ON DISCUSS, VOTE ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
I REQUEST A NEW POSITIONS TO STAY ON THIS ONE.
JUST A SECOND BECAUSE WE JUST LEFT THAT.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, AGAIN, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION AGAIN.
UH, SEE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER AND YOU LOOK ANTSY TO COME UP TO HERE.
IS THERE ANY NO, I, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR.
IS THAT A SALARY? IS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING WELL, OR NEW EMPLOYEES? OH, NO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP? COME ON UP, JUDGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THIS TODAY BY APOLOGIZING FOR NOT BEING HERE WITH JUDGE GRISSOM.
LAST THURSDAY, AS YOU MENTIONED, THURSDAYS MY JAIL DAY AND IT WAS QUITE FESTIVE.
WE HAD ONE QUITE WHAT? IT WAS QUITE FESTIVE.
WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS DEAF AND THAT TOOK SPECIAL ATTENTION.
YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING INDIVIDUALLY WITH HIM.
SO BY THE TIME I WAS DONE WITH THAT, IT WENT STRAIGHT INTO MY EVICTIONS DOCKET.
BY THE TIME IT WAS DONE, Y'ALL WERE DONE.
UM, THE REASON I'M HERE IS I WAS WANTING TO RECLASSIFY A POSITION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CONSIDERED SUBTRACTING ONE OR ADDING ONE, BUT I WANNA REMOVE ONE OF THE PLAIN CLERK POSITIONS.
I WANT TO CREATE A POSITION THAT'S THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.
UM, WE'RE STILL FUNCTIONING WITH THE NUMBER OF CLERKS AND PERSONNEL WE'VE HAD FOR EIGHT TO 10 YEARS NOW.
UH, WE HAVE STRIVED VERY HARD TO REALLOCATE DUTIES RATHER THAN ADD PEOPLE TO THE MIX.
UH, ONE THING THE OFFICE IS SO SMALL, IF WE HAD ANOTHER PERSON, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE BUNK DISCS OR SOMETHING TO PUT 'EM THERE.
BUT, UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE REALLOCATED RESPONSIBILITIES WHERE WE REALLOCATE THESE RESPONSIBILITIES AND ADD THINGS, UH, TO POSITIONS THAT REALLY AREN'T FUNDED FOR THE DUTIES THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND WE'RE, THIS YEAR WE DID HAVE A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE OFFICE WHERE OUR CHIEF CLERK RETIRED AFTER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS COUNTY.
AND, UM, IN RESTRUCTURING EVERYTHING, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE WE HAD WAS A LITTLE FLAWED BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE REPORTING TO LOWER POSITIONS OR REQUIRE REQUIRING THINGS OF FOLKS THAT REALLY AREN'T BEING COMPENSATED FOR OVERSEEING WHAT THEY'RE OVERSEEING.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO, AT THAT POSITION OF ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR, UH, CURRENTLY THE, THE PERSON THAT WE HAVE DOING THE FUNCTIONS, UH, THEY DO MOST OF THE INTAKE OF CIVIL CASES AT THE WINDOW, WHICH WE HAVE THE HIGHEST CIVIL LOAD OF THE FOUR JP COURTS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, SHE ASSISTS IN PULLING THE E-FILE FILINGS.
UH, SOMETHING IS A MOTION THAT HAS TO BE ADDED TO A FILE.
SHE EITHER DOES THAT OR PUTS IT TO MY ATTENTION SO THAT WE CAN HOLD A HEARING ON IT.
UH, IN ADDITION TO ALL THOSE CIVIL RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, SHE IS WELL-TRAINED IN THE CRIMINAL PART.
SO WHEN THERE IS A QUESTION AND THE CHIEF COURT COORDINATOR'S NOT THERE, SHE'S THE ONE THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS AND DOES SO QUITE EFFICIENTLY.
UH, IF I SAY, UH, ONE MORE TIME, I'M GONNA SLAP MYSELF.
IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, I'M SORRY, I THINK BECKY WILL VOLUNTEER TO SLAP YOU IF
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THAT'S OKAY.UM, SHE'S OFFERED MANY TIMES AND MOST OF IT JUSTIFIED, UM, THAT IT GOT ME, YOU MADE ME DO IT.
THEY ALSO MANAGE THE OFFICE WHEN THE CHIEF COORDINATOR'S NOT THERE.
UH, THE, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A CIVIL QUESTION, THEY NEED ANSWERS, THEY NEED HELP.
WE CAN'T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE, BUT WE HAVE A VERY GOOD POLICY IN EFFECT WHERE WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE THEY NEED, EITHER THROUGH THE STATE OR THROUGH OUR LOCAL, UH, LEGAL AID.
IF THE COURT COORDINATOR IS NOT THERE, THEY ASSIST IN DOCKING THE CASES AND KEEP THE COURT FUNCTIONING SMOOTHLY.
WE DO A LOT OF CROSS TRAINING.
EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO DO EVERYBODY ELSE'S JOB.
IF WE ARE OUT PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ILLNESS OR ACCIDENT OR UNEXPECTED FAMILY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SHOW MUST GO ON.
SO WE HAVE EVERYTHING SET UP TO WHERE NO ONE PERSON OR NO TWO PEOPLE ARE SO CRITICAL THAT WE CAN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT THOSE PEOPLE THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW.
SO WE DO A LOT OF CROSS TRAINING AND EXTRA TRAINING AND SCHOOLING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I HAD STARTED THIS TODAY UNDER THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT Y'ALL DID FOR JP THREE AND THAT BECAME MORE APPARENT TO ME JUST YESTERDAY THAT THIS IS ALL COMING OUT.
IT WAS INITIALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING OUT OF ONE OF OUR SPECIAL FUNDS, UH, THE COURT AND ITS WISDOM THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO COME OUT OF FUND 10 SO THAT WE DON'T OVER UTILIZE THOSE SPECIAL FUNDS.
SO REALLY ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS WHAT YOU, JUST A REPEAT OF WHAT YOU DID THURSDAY AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL FUNCTION THE SAME.
THE BENEFIT TO THIS IS WE ARE FUNCTIONING WITH ONE LESS EMPLOYEE.
UH, THEN WE PROBABLY COULD USE, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE HANDLING IT WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.
YOU WALK INTO MY OFFICE, YOU CAN GO BEHIND THE SCENES.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE ODYSSEY, ODYSSEY, ODYSSEY, ODYSSEY, ODYSSEY ON EVERY SCREEN.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE FACEBOOK, SPIDER SOLITAIRE, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL BUSINESS BEING DONE.
EVERYBODY'S BUSY ENOUGH THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO RELATED TO THEIR JOB AT ALL TIMES.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE SOME OF THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING? WHERE PEOPLE ARE ON FACEBOOK AND DOING ALL THIS OTHER MY PHONE.
I JUST SAID MY PHONE BEING QUIPPY.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO USE THAT SPECIAL FUND? THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH GRISSOM JUDGE GRIS.
WHY NOT? WE USED THE SPECIAL NOT FOR THE SPECIAL, FOR THE SALARY REQUEST.
AND YOU USED A SPECIAL FUND FOR HIS OR HIS CAT REQUEST BECAUSE IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT AS SOON AS THAT SPECIAL FUND RUNS OUT, THEN THEN HE SENT PUT BACK ON TIME 10.
THATS SOMETHING THAT I DID WANT TO BRING UP TODAY.
IF THAT'S HOW WE PHRASED IT THE OTHER DAY.
BUT LIKE COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS SAID SEVERAL TIMES, ANYTHING WE'VE DONE WE CAN UNDO.
I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HANDLED ALL OF THESE JP REQUESTS THIS YEAR OUT OF FUND 57.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT TO PICK ON JUDGE GREEN HERE.
UM, AS MUCH AS I LIKE TO PICK UP, SOME OF 'EM WOULDN'T HAVE.
SO THE WAY THOSE FUNDS WORK IS OR THE WAY, WELL THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY, DIDN'T ASK FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IF IT, BUT SO WHAT IS THE NET TOTAL OF MR. OR JUDGE GREEN'S REQUEST? 13 NET NET IMPACT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
IF YOU WANTED TO GO FROM THE CLERK TO THE 69 4 74 THAT Y'ALL APPROVED ALREADY, IT WOULD BE UP FROM THE 57 80 TO SEVEN THAT THE COURT CLERK POSITION MAKES RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE REMOVING.
SO IT'D BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
AND I'M SORRY MATH IN MY HEAD.
IS IT THAT 16 4 0 3 BECKY? IT'S LIKE 16,403 TO ME.
IS IT, THAT ISN'T WHAT HE SUBMITTED.
NOW THAT'S NOT WHAT I STARTED OFF AT.
I'M JUST A PIECE OF PAPER I GOT RIGHT HERE.
NOW IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT THAT I HAD, IF YOU WANNA DO THIS COMPLETELY OUT OF FUND 57, UH, THAT WOULD BE TO TAKE THE BASE PAY OF THE COLLECTIONS AFTER THE COST OF LIVING, INCREASE THE 63 7 52, ADD 1248 FROM 57 TO MAKE IT A TOTAL OF 65 AND THE COURT CLERK SALARY AT 57 80 TO SEVEN, ADD 2113 FROM FUND 57 TO MAKE THAT 60.
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BASE PAY BASE CLERKS GETTING THE 63, THE COLLECTIONS CLERK GETTING 65.AND THEN THE ASSISTANT BECKY IS IT SEE ME GOING TO 60 FOR COLLECTIONS AND 65 FOR THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT I WAS COMING IN AT THE TIME.
AGAIN, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT'S COMING FROM 57 ELSEWHERE ALSO.
SO AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT, THEN I WOULD JUST SAY MIRROR WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE AND WE JUST GO ON WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR JP THREE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN OUR NUMBERS IS THEY HAVE MORE CRIMINAL, THEY GET MORE TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT MOST OF THE INTERSTATE PRECINCT FOUR, PRECINCT THREE ARE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A BIGGER TICKET LOAD BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT INTERSTATE AND THAT'S WHERE THE TROOPERS LIVE IN PLAY.
UH, WE HAVE MORE CIVIL, WE HAVE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, WE DO A GOOD CHUNK OF THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES COME IN.
WE DO ALMOST ALL OF THE MENTAL HEALTH PROBABLE CAUSE HEARINGS, UH, JUVENILE DETENTION HEARINGS, THOSE ARE FILED BY THE STATE.
SO THEY WALK NEXT DOOR INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DRIVE TO THEIR COURT.
SO WE GET ALMOST ALL OF THOSE DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION.
APPEALS WERE ALL FILED IN JP TWO.
THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE AND JUDGE CHO BEFORE I STARTED AND WE NEVER CHANGED IT.
SO WE HAVE SIX TO EIGHT TO 20 DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION APPEALS EACH MONTH.
THAT HAD TO BE PROCESSED THROUGH OUR COURTS.
WE DO HANDGUN, LTC APPEALS IF YOUR LCCS SUSPENDED OR DENIED THOSE APPEALS GO THROUGH OUR COURT.
IF YOU'RE IN OUR PRECINCT, WE DO TRUANCY HEARINGS AND TRUANCY HEARINGS ARE CIVIL.
NOW THEY TOOK THAT OUTTA THE CRIMINAL REALM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS BACK AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL.
SO NOW THOSE ARE ACTUALLY IN OUR CIVIL COMPOSITE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE LESS BUSY, IT'S JUST OUR WORKLOAD IS IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
AS I'M SURE EACH ONE OF Y'ALL'S PRECINCTS IS RUN THE SAME WAY.
ONE OF YOU HAS MORE ISSUES ONE WAY, ONE OF YOU HAS MORE ISSUES ANOTHER.
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES WHEN YOU DIVIDE ONE PIE INTO FOUR PIECES.
AND, AND JUDGE, I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF.
THAT'S, WE DO HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO TACKLE HERE.
UM, IF IT, SO I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR EMAIL THAT YOU SENT US A FEW DAYS AGO.
IT SAYS HERE THAT YOU WANTED TO TAKE THE BASE PAY OF THIS BASICALLY MM-HMM.
WITH 12 48, 1240 $8 PLUS $2,113.
SO APPROXIMATELY, CALL IT $3,400, IS THAT CORRECT? OUT OF AND THAT WOULD BE OUT OF 57? YES SIR.
SO YOU, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RECLASSIFYING WHAT'S CURRENTLY COLLECTIONS TO THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR, WHICH SHOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE DUTIES ARE.
AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE BASE CLERK POSITION AND MAKING THAT INTO COLLECTIONS POSITION AND SUPPLEMENTING THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE SPENDING FUND 10 MONEY.
SO IF YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE WOULD NOT SPEND ANYTHING ADDITIONAL OUT FUND 10.
IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANNA SPEND $3,400 FROM FUND 57 YES SIR.
TO LEAVE THEN THE FUND 10 IMPACT ALONE, THAT WOULD BE ZE IT WOULD BE ZERO EXCEPT FOR THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
I WOULD BE CHANGING TO BENEFITS.
I HAVE ACTUALLY PUSH THE BUTTON HERE, SIR.
I'M TELL YOU WHAT MY MOTION IS.
MY MOTION IS TO MIRROR THE, UH, RECLASSIFICATION TO THAT OF PRECINCT THREE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THAT BOTH OF THEM, THE MONEY BE TAKEN FROM THE FUND.
57 IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.
IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY HAVE TO ADJUST IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? JUST TO CLARIFY IT? BY DOING THAT, WE WOULD FOLLOW THE RUBRIC THAT I'VE ALREADY FIGURED OUT WHERE WE'RE TAKING THE CURRENT SALARIES, LEAVING THEM ALONE AND ADDING TO IT.
WE'RE RECLASSIFYING EXACTLY AS WE DID FROM THE OTHER POSITION TO COURT COORDINATOR.
ONE POSITION, 69,000 AND YOU'RE GONNA CALL COORDINATOR.
EVERYTHING YOU MENTIONED A WHILE AGO DOESN'T COME TO MORE THAN WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR LINE THERE.
THE, THE FIGURES THAT I CAME UP WITH, THE 3000 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SUSTAINABLE
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RIGHT NOW.WE'RE, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE BOUGHT IN 4,500 AND WE'VE GOT $80,000 BALANCE BEHIND THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT TAKING OUT EACH YEAR MORE THAN WE'RE BRINGING IN.
YOU ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIES FIVE VOTE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT WHILE WE'RE ON ITEM C? WANT TO COME OUT? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THIS IS WHERE Y'ALL WANTED ME YET.
'CAUSE WE HAD DISCUSSED SOME POSITIONS BUT ALSO, UH, DISCUSSED THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD PRESENT.
WE'RE STILL ALL NEW EMPLOYEES.
AND SOME OF 'EM WERE NEW POSITIONS AS FAR AS OUR DISPATCHERS AND OUR PATROL DEPUTIES.
SO WE ALSO, WE, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE SALARY STRUCTURE AND MAYBE OFFSETTING THAT WITH SOME OF THESE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS.
SO JUST TELL ME WHERE Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR IT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO, DO YOU NEED THIS? UH, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA LET ME TALK.
I KNOW LAST WEEK WHEN WE TALKED, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSITIONS, THE DISPATCH POSITIONS AND THE PATROL POSITIONS AND THEN THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE AND SOME FIGURES WERE THROWN OUT, UH, BETWEEN A MILLION AND $500,000 FOR THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE.
UH, MY CHIEF, ALONG WITH BECKY DOING A LOT OF WORK, UH, WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING WE BELIEVE MEETS ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER VISUAL FOR WHERE OUR SALARY STRUCTURE IS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT BOTTOM TAN TRIANGLE.
THAT'S WHERE A PATROL DEPUTY STARTS, YOU KNOW, IN THAT BOTTOM LEFT CORNER.
AND THAT'S THE LEVEL THAT THE 2% INCREASES PER YEAR.
AND THEY MAX OUT AFTER 12 YEARS.
UH, THE BLUE LINE, THE THE TOP PART THAT'S WEATHERFORD PD, UH, WE STARTED ABOUT THE SAME ACTUALLY.
WE START A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THEY DO AND THEY GO UP 5% A YEAR AND THEY MAX OUT AT NINE YEARS.
AND IN FACT, IF YOU SEE WHERE THAT RED X IS, A WEATHERFORD OFFICER MAXES OUT ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF TO FIVE YEARS WHERE OUR DEPUTIES WILL MAX OUT IN 12 YEARS.
THE LINE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE LATEST.
WE'VE COME UP WITH BECKY'S HELP ON THIS, UH, IS TAKING OUR CURRENT SALARY STRUCTURE WITH 2% INCREMENTS AND MAKING THOSE 3% INCREMENTS AND KIND OF KEEPING THE, THE STARTING PAY ABOUT THE SAME SINCE WE ARE KIND OF HIGHLY PAID RIGHT NOW ON THAT LOWER END AND JUST BRINGING IT UP THERE KIND OF ABOUT HALFWAY TO WHERE WEATHERFORD IS RIGHT THERE.
I THINK IT'S UH, IT'S NOT WHERE WE WANNA BE EVENTUALLY, BUT WE KNOW, UH, IT'S GONNA BE AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE AND IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL YEARS FOR US TO GET THERE.
UM, THE TOTAL FOR THIS AND, AND THE LITTLE BIT WE HAVE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL AND DISPATCH CAME OUT TO $868,000 I BELIEVE.
SO UN UNDER THAT MILLION DOLLAR, UH, NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT LAST WEEK.
AND I THINK, AND IF TO GET THIS, IF WE HAVE TO FOREGO THE DISPATCH POSITIONS AND FOREGO OUR UH, DEPUTIES, UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO THAT.
I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE CONSTABLES OR ANYTHING, BUT, BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD FOREGO THOSE DEPUTY POSITIONS IN DISPATCH.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT SCENARIO.
MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF, OF THE, UH, NUMBERS THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE, UM, BY SHERIFF ER.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT ITEM? AND AND THE EXACT NUMBER IS 868 SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE FINALS YET, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, WELL BECKY WILL HAVE 'EM.
IT'S WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
I GAVE EACH OF YOU A PACKET THAT SHOWS THE BLUE IS BASICALLY WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THEN THE GREEN IS THE NEW, AND I BROKE IT DOWN FROM COMMISSION TO ANIMAL CONTROL TO DISPATCH
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TO SHOW THE INCREASE IN SALARY AND THE INCREASE IN TOTAL COST.I GAVE YOU MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT GIVES THEIR TOTAL COMPENSATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME.
THERE'S ALSO A COPY OF THE STEP GRADE ITSELF AND THEN I DID KIND OF A CLIFF NOTES VERSION OF IT BY DEPARTMENTS WHERE THEIR SALARY CURRENTLY IS, WHAT THIS WILL PUT THEIR SALARY AT AND THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE THAT THEY'LL RECEIVE.
AND ONE THING THE CHIEF, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS, WE DO AWAY WITH A 4% COLA WITH WITH THIS SALARY RESTRUCTURE.
SO THE FOUR PERCENT'S DONE AWAY WITH AND THEN THE NEW SALARY STRUCTURE TAKES OVER.
SO THANK CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS PLEASE? NOT NUMBERS, BUT JUST THE PERCENTAGES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
I MEAN THE PERCENTAGE IS VARY BY POSITION.
SO HIS HIS VOTE THOUGH, IS IT, IT'S NO COLA.
AND WHAT PERCENTAGE? IT WOULD JUST BE THE NEW SALARY SCALE PROVIDED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THE LAST TIME, I'M SO SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO NO, I UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED, IT WAS LIKE 8% BEFORE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GIVING 80% RAISE AND THEN IT'S ANYWHERE FROM A 0.69 INCREASE TO 15.74 DEPENDING ON POSITIONS AND YEARS OF SERVICE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE LIKE IN YEARS PAST WE JUST HAVE THE SALARY STRUCTURE AND NORMALLY THEY JUST ADOPT THAT STRUCTURE AND THIS IS ONE IS AT 3% THE INCREMENTS, THE 12 STEP INCREMENTS GO UP TO 3% INSTEAD OF 2% WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW.
CAN YOU GIVE A, IS THERE A NET DIFFERENCE OR IMPACT FINANCIAL IMPACT ONE WAY OR, OR WHAT THAT WOULD BE ON THE OVERALL, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED HERE AND WHAT THE MOTION.
AND THE SECOND IS WHAT IS THE NET GAIN OR LOSS AFTER, AFTER WE APPROVE THIS NOW THE MONEY'S $868,000.
SO NOW THE 4% THAT WAS VOTED AND TAKEN AWAY, I THINK I FORGOT WHAT THAT CAME UP TO.
YEAH, IT'S ON BLUE PACKET I GAVE Y'ALL WROTE BACK ON THE BACK.
COLOR CODED BLUE WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED ALREADY.
GREEN IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND IT AFFECTS THESE POSITION IN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES AS WELL.
I GAVE Y'ALL A SEPARATE SHEET OF HOW THIS IS GONNA AFFECT BAILIFFS AND CONSTABLES AND I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT FOR THIS, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'VE I'VE GOT SOME.
SO SHERIFF, THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 800,000.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT THAT, AND I DON'T NEED TO THE DOLLAR, BUT WHAT IS THE CURRENT SALARY TOTAL THAT THAT 800,000 IS AN INCREASE FROM? SO IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT, I THINK IT'S LIKE 8.2 MILLION, DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? I THINK IT'S IN THE EIGHT RANGE.
I COULDN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 10% BUMP APPROXIMATELY THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY PERSON IS GETTING 10%.
THEY WILL NOT, BUT, BUT ONE THING THAT I'D, I'D LIKE TO, I MEAN, IN AN, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS AND WE COULD PAY WHAT WE NEEDED TO PAY AND KEEP US MORE COMPETITIVE THAN WEATHERFORD.
UM, BUT AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS ALLUDED TO, WE'RE WE'RE STARTING OFF TODAY, SEVEN $8 MILLION BORROWING FROM FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT THE TAXPAYER.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT EACH YEAR WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH AS WE THINK WE WILL.
AND SO WE END UP GIVING SOME BACK TO FUND BALANCE WHEN WE INITIALLY PROJECT THAT WE WILL USE SOME FROM FUND BALANCE.
BUT AT SOME POINT THAT FUND BALANCE BECOMES CRITICAL WITH OUR LONG-TERM CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.
OUR BOND RATING IS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN FUND BALANCE.
UM, AND I'D LIKE BRIANNA TO COMMENT ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THIS STEP IN GRADE SYSTEM BUILDS IN A RAISE EACH YEAR FOR THESE OFFICERS.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THE STEP IS, CORRECT.
IF IF IT'S UNDER 12 YEARS, IF THEY'RE NOT MAXED OUT, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILT IN APPROVED RAISES EACH YEAR IN ADDITION TO COLA IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WHAT, WHAT VERSION OF THE STEP GRADE IS THIS NOW? UM, I, I'VE LOST COUNT.
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PRETTY CLOSE ATTENTION BEFORE I WAS ELECTED AND WE HAD A VERSION THEN.UM, AND THEN WE HAD A VERSION LAST YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE A VERSION THIS YEAR.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE.
I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP WITH BADGES AND GUNS AND THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE.
BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY I DO HAVE IS TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS REASONABLY APPROPRIATE.
$800,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY WHEN WE'RE ALREADY ANTICIPATING BUILT IN RAISES VIA THE STEP SYSTEM.
THAT WAS A NEW SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR.
UM, 10% TO OUR TOTAL LINE FOR THAT LINE IS, IS PRETTY HEAVY AS WELL.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION AND I'D HAVE TO, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT UH, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MARKETPLACE AND WE LOOK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT WEATHERFORD AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE SCALE THERE THAT UH, THEY, THEY HAVE US KIND OF JUST, DO WE, WELL DO WE DO EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH OFFICERS WHO DO GO ELSEWHERE? I ASSUME THAT'S PROBABLY BECKY'S GENERALLY THE CAPTAIN DOES.
HAVE, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE LOST TO WEATHERFORD IN THE LAST IT'S BEEN WHILE IT'S, IT'S THREE YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW ANY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
BUT WE KNOW IF, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS LAST SLIDE HERE, UH, THOSE NUMBERS IN RED, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF DEPUTIES THAT, THAT ARE IN THIS SCALE.
NOT, NOT SERGEANTS AND CORPORALS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S A NUMBER OF DEPUTIES AND WHO WILL BE AFFECTED AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE UNDER THE YEARS OF SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE, WE, WE GET 'EM IN THE DOOR AND WE CAN KEEP 'EM.
AND OF COURSE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL PROMOTE IN THERE, BUT, UH, A LOT OF THEM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS GROW THERE IN THAT MIDDLE RANGE RIGHT THERE.
SO, SO THE SAVINGS OR THIS 800 ISH ESTIMATE, THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDING THE DISPATCHER POSITIONS THAT WERE BACKED OUT? YEAH.
THAT HE WAS JUST NO, THE BACK OF IT WAS JUST THE GREEN, YES.
THE FRONT PAGE I DID INCLUDE NEW POSITIONS.
SO Y'ALL SEE THAT, BUT THE BACK, JUST TO SHOW THAT.
WELL, I WAS TRYING TO SEE THAT TOTAL NUMBER AND WITH THOSE THAT HE JUST REFERENCED, HE'D BE WILLING TO FOREGO THAT WERE ADDED.
THEY HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T ADDED THOSE.
THOSE ARE POSITIONS THAT DID NOT GET ADDED.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ADDED WAS THE 4% COLA ACROSS THE BOARD.
WHICH IS, WHICH IS BACKED OUT.
WHICH I, THEY WERE APPROVED TO INVESTIGATORS AND THEY WERE APPROVED FOR FUNDING FOR THE TWO TRANSPORTS THAT WERE HIRED IN 24.
AND I TOLD THE COURT LAST WEEK WHEN WE ASKED FOR A NEW POSITION, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE WORK HARDER THIS YEAR THAN WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE ARREST MORE PEOPLE OR WRITE MORE REPORTS OR ANSWER MORE CALLS AS FAR AS PATROL, WHEN WE ASK FOR MORE PEOPLE, IT'S TO LOWER THOSE RESPONSE TIMES.
WHEN WE ASK FOR MORE DISPATCHERS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE, WE'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER CONSOLE UP, WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER STATION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SAFER OUT THERE ON THE ROADS.
WHEN WE ASK FOR NEW INVESTIGATORS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY RIGHT THERE.
THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE CASELOAD THEY HAVE.
THAT'S TRULY WHERE YOU'RE ADDING SOMEBODY WHOSE WORKLOAD IS JUST OVERWHELMING.
UH, WE JUST HAD NOT THE PLACE TO PUT THEM UNTIL Y'ALL GOT US THIS BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
SO A A QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR SENA I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU SIR AS WELL.
UM, AND I RECALL LAST YEAR WE HAD THIS DATA, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SEEN IT THIS YEAR.
IF, IF Y'ALL HAVE SENT IT AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT OR I DON'T REMEMBER IT, I APOLOGIZE.
BUT ONE THING THAT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR ME IS WHAT, WHAT DO SIMILARLY SIZED ENTITIES DO? I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO BE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW IF WE'RE PRETTY FAR BEHIND OR AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
UM, HOW ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PER CAPITA AT THIS POINT? 'CAUSE I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE WERE BEHIND, WE WE'RE, SHERIFF'S OFFICES ARE GONNA BE BEHIND, WE'RE BEHIND.
WE'RE PROBABLY AROUND THAT ONE RANGE.
I I'M SURE THE CHIEF HAS THOSE NUMBERS.
UH, THIS SHERIFF'S OFFICES GENERALLY DO MORE WITH LESS.
THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST AND WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.
BUT, UH, WE'RE PROBABLY BEHIND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE A GREAT DEAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STATE AVERAGE.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS LAST YEAR WE LOOKED AT SHERIFF'S SHERIFF OFFICE VERSUS SHERIFF OFFICE.
AND WE WERE STILL BEHIND THE CURVE THERE AS WELL.
SO IF WE DON'T ADD ANY POSITIONS, ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS, YOU ADDED TWO.
SO THAT'S GONNA BRING IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IF YOU'RE ADDING SIX TO SEVEN TO 8,000 PEOPLE TO THIS COUNTY A YEAR, THAT THAT NUMBER'S GONNA FALL.
AND THAT 0.93 IS IN WHAT CONTEXT? THAT THAT'S LIKE ONE WOULD BE ONE PER THOUSAND PEOPLE, THOUSAND CITIZENS.
WHAT'S THE AVERAGE FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICES? WELL, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON, THERE'S A LOT OF, WHEN YOU GET THOSE STATISTICS, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 2.4, BUT I WANTED TO SAY FOR
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SHERIFF'S OFFICE IT WAS LIKE 1.25 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT LAST YEAR.I DON'T THINK IT WAS NEAR TWO.
WELL, IT DEPENDS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY CLASSIFY JAILERS AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICES.
A LOT OF TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHICH REGION OF THE COUNTRY YOU'RE IN.
UM, SO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE ACROSS THE BOARD, IF YOU TAKE ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SHERIFF'S OFFICES, IT'S 2.4 PER THOUSAND SHERIFF'S OFFICES.
IF YOU TAKE THEM AND COMPARE THEM TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS, GENERALLY IT'S A LOT LOWER.
WHAT DOES A LOT MEAN? USUALLY LIKE 1.4, YOU KNOW, 1.6 JUST DEPENDS ON THE REGION OF THE, THE COUNTRY.
FOR THE WEST YOU GO, THE LOWER THAT AVERAGE IS, THE FURTHER REACH YOU GO, THE HIGHER THE AVERAGE IS FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICES.
BUT IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTY, UM, BRAZORIA COUNTY, WE UH, THE AGENCY POPULATION, THE POPULATION THAT THEY SERVE, THEY ACTUALLY POLICE, UM, IS 132,000 AND THEIR UH, POLICE TO CITIZEN RATIO IS 1.1.
SO AS YOU, YOU GO THROUGH THIS AND I EMAILED YOU GUYS AND YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THIS SHEET IN YOUR FOLDER, IT GIVES YOU A LIST OF, UH, DIFFERENT STATISTICS.
SO WEATHERFORD POLICE, WEATHERFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AT 1.4.
UM, NATIONWIDE AVERAGE IS 2.4.
LOOKING AT THOSE COUNTIES THAT WE MATCH AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS WE ACTUALLY SERVE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR POLICING.
CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION? ARE WE GONNA START THE SECOND MEETING AT TWO? YES, WE ARE.
TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS AND BE READY TO GO AT TWO AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE AFTER THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE WILL RESUME AT TWO O'CLOCK.
CAN I OPEN THE MEETING? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE, UH, ONE O'CLOCK DISCUSS BUDGET DISCUSSION ON THAT AGENDA.
STILL THINK SHE, I THINK SHE'S GETTING OUR COMPUTERS LINED OUT A BUNCH OF, WE GOTTA SIGN IN ON THIS.
YEAH, I GOT, I GOT IT WORKING.
SO WHAT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IS, IS IT WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN ON THAT IS TO RE-REQUEST A MOTION AND SECOND ON THIS.
IF YOU JUST WANNA VERBALLY SAY OR I CAN JUST PUT TIME TO VOTE.
SO WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THIS WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.
AND COMMISSIONER WALDEN, YOU MENTIONED MOVING DOWN, WE DO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS BUSINESS FIRST.
SO, UM, WITH THE MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? YEAH, THE SHERIFF, I MEAN WE HAD SEVERAL MORE.
WE WERE STILL WELL INTO THAT DISCUSSION.
AND JUST ONE MORE THING JUST TO HELP CLARIFY SOME OF THE THINGS I KNOW, UH, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER HOL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE $868,000.
IF YOU BACK OUT THE 4% COLA WITH THOSE AFFECTED POSITION, THAT WAS ABOUT 585,000.
SO THE NET DIFFERENCE IS A $293,207.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT AS WELL.
LOOK, AND JUST FOR MY CLARITY, Y'ALL WERE GONNA DROP YOUR REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL, THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO GET THIS? YES SIR.
AND THAT'S FACTORED IN THE NUMBER YOU JUST GAVE? NO.
AND THAT NUMBER IS AGAIN SHERIFF? NO, THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT DIFFERENCE IS 293,000, TWO 90.
THAT WAS THE 4% COLA DIFFERENCE, CORRECT? YES.
IF YOU BACKED THAT OUT OR GAVE A CREDIT FOR THAT 4% COLA.
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ADDITION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT 4% COLA AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT REQUESTING THE ADDITIONAL DISPATCH OR PATROL CORRECT.AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT THOSE POSITIONS WOULD REQUIRE.
PATROL QUITE A BIT WITH THE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND THE VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WILL NOT BE NEEDED SINCE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THOSE.
WHAT'S THAT? SO THAT, AND THAT'S OUT IF YOU ADD THAT TO THE 4% COLA BACK BACKING THAT OUT AND THAT'S LESS THAN THE FOUR THAN THE ORIGINAL ASK.
NO, AND IT IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU PUT THE POSITIONS IN, IF YOU ACCEPTED THOSE POSITIONS.
AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT THAT WENT WITH THOSE POSITIONS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THERE WERE TWO DISPATCH, THREE DISPATCH AND THREE PATROL.
THREE DISPATCH AND THREE PATROL SIX POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT FUNDING WERE NOT APPROVED.
JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.
YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW, FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD THAT MUCH OF AN ASK THAT'S NOT BEING APPROVED.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, IT, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT AGAIN.
NOW WE'RE GOING FROM THE 6.8 TO WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? HOW MUCH WE AT TAD HIGHER? YEAH, WE GOT A TOTAL TAD HIGHER, RIGHT? LIKE ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
SEVEN AND A WHAT, WHAT'D YOU SAY? SEVEN AND A HALF? YEAH, I GOT A DIFFERENT NUMBER, BUT I'M NOT SURE I ADDED RIGHT ON.
I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST UTILIZING HIS, WHAT IS IT? WHERE ARE WE AT? I'M, I'M ROUGH.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE UNDER SEVEN AND A HALF I BELIEVE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY.
WELL, I JUST SAY THAT, THAT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HAD, BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO COME, THAT HAVE TO BE AND, AND, UH, SO THAT'S, I WOULD, I WOULD, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPPOSITION TO IT IS THE ONLY THING.
SO VOTE I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS AND SEEING WHAT, WHAT AVAILABLE TO CUT THERE.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE'RE PREPARED TO VOTE UNLESS WE WANNA WITHDRAW THAT MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND YOU CAN SAY VERBAL IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WE CAN BRING IT BACK IN A LITTLE WHILE.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING.
IT'LL STILL, WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK IN A LITTLE WHILE AFTER, AFTER WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS. WELL THAT'S FINE.
BUT, UH, JUDGE, I ASK THAT WE'D MOVE TO CAPTAIN NON CAP.
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AGENDA G IT'S ALL GONNA BE THERE AT THE SAME TIME.KIM, IF YOU WOULD COME UP ON YOUR WAY CAP.
I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY WON'T AFFECT FUND 10.
CAPTAIN ON CAPITAL ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS NEEDING SOME, UM, HANDHELD POLE PAD CURBSIDE PRINTERS.
UM, FOR THE OUTSIDE VOTING WHEN WE HAVE TO CURBSIDE VOTE, THOSE TOTAL UP TO $3,570.
SHE CURRENTLY HAS MONEY IN HER CURRENT BUDGET.
WHICH PAGE ARE YOU ON? I YOU DON'T HAVE IT.
SHE CURRENTLY HAS THIS IN HER, IN HER BUDGET IN ANOTHER LINE.
BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, Y'ALL AUTHORIZE A BUDGET OVERRIDE AND WE COULD PURCHASE THESE NOW, UM, INSTEAD OF FUNDING THEM IN THE NEW YEAR BUDGET.
SO MOVE WHAT BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
THE NEXT, NEXT THING I WANNA BRING, UM, UP REAL QUICK IS THE FUND 57 STUFF.
THE, THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE JPS, WE'VE MOVED ALL OF THEIR ITEMS UNDER,
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UM, FUND 57.THEY WERE REQUESTING THAT IS, IS TECHNOLOGY RELATED.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE MONEY UNDER JP TWO.
THEY HAVE 26,000 7, 26 OF CAP ON CAP ITEMS PLUS THE $3,400 THAT HE REQUESTED FOR THE, THE CHANGE IN SALARY.
SO WE STILL HAVE, HE'S GOT $89,000 IN HIS TECHNOLOGY LINE.
SO THAT WOULD BE COVERED INCLUDED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
RIGHT? SO NORMALLY ANY, YOU KNOW, IT REQUESTS, IT'S USUALLY THROUGH FUND 10.
THERE'S BEEN CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PAID FOR 57, UM, LIKE THEY GOT THESE KIOSKS AND STUFF WHERE PEOPLE CAN PAY IN THE COMPUTER FOR THAT AND THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS OR JUST KIND OF ADDITIONAL.
UM, AND I KNOW THE OTHER DAY FOR JP THREE THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WHEN COURT APPROVED THEIR IT ITEMS, BUT TO COME OUT OF FUND 57.
AND SO THERE WERE OTHER JPS THAT HAD IT REQUESTS.
AND SO KIM PUT TOGETHER WHAT THOSE WERE IN RELATION TO THIS.
AGAIN, SOME HAVE A LOT MORE THAN OTHERS.
UM, THIS WOULD IMPACT IF, YOU KNOW, SOME OBVIOUSLY LIKE JP THREE WOULD HAVE PLENTY FOR THAT, UH, SALARY SUPPLEMENT TO COME OUT OF THERE.
UM, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY LOWER JP TWOS AND THEN THE SALARY SUPPLEMENT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE THEY CURRENTLY STAND.
SO PART OF IT WAS THE DIRECTION IS, IS ALL OF THESE IT REQUESTS, IS IT THE INTENT AND REQUEST OF COURT FOR THAT TO GO TO FUND 57 OR ARE THOSE IT REQUESTS GONNA BE PAID FOR FOR FUND 10? I, THAT'S MONEY THAT'S SITTING HERE.
TO BE QUITE HONEST, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DIRECT TAX MONEY.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME FROM 57.
YOU NEED A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? YES, PLEASE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SORRY, WHAT MOTION I MOVE THAT WE TAKE THESE IT REQUESTS FROM THE FUND.
COMMISSIONER COLLINS, MAY THE SECOND.
AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASSES FIVE.
NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO FUND 10.
SO I, I HANDED OUT ALL KINDS OF SPREADSHEETS, BUT THE FIRST SPREADSHEET IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 SUMMARY.
IT'S JUST EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 LITTLE SHEET.
AND THE TOTAL THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE CAP, NON CAP AS OF TODAY IS 7,160,894.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE, UM, THE CAPTAIN ON CAP FOR THE DISTRICT CLERKS THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER.
SO IT LEAVES A BALANCE OF 995,000 402 42 THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
ALL OF THE IT CAP, NON CAP RELATED EXPENSES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT.
IT SAYS 20, IT SAYS FI 24, BUT IT'S REALLY 25.
STARTS OUT WITH A COMMISSIONER'S COURT AV OVERHAUL FOR 25,795.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INTEREST RIGHT NOW IN IMPROVE THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE, WE, WE NEED IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, WELL WHY DO WE DO ANY OF IT? LET'S, IF WE DON'T, IS THERE SOMETHING HERE THAT WE HAVE TO DO? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ELECTIONS, THEIR, THEIR CHAIRS AND GEN, THE GENERATOR SITUATION.
I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HILL JUST ORDERED TWO.
AND, UM, WE STILL COULD, COULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR THAT WE NEED TO BUY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG Y'ALL WANNA PUSH THAT OUT.
THOSE ARE BACKUP GENERATORS FOR DAY, ELECTION DAY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
LET'S, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY OKAY.
SO SHE'S ASKED FOR, FOR THE THREE OFFICE CHAIRS FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND A LAMINATOR, UM, FOR $200.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.
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BRIANNA IS THIS ONE WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.I WOULD DO THAT UNDER THE GENERAL FUND.
SO AFTER SHE'S DONE, CAN I ASK ABOUT THE V DRIVES ON ELECTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? Y APPROVED THAT FOR 30.
UM, THE NEXT THING THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED IS THE TRACTOR FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER FOR 30,000.
SO WE, UH, WE APPROVED $50,000 FOR, UM, A USED, USED EQUIPMENT LINE.
SO, UH, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THEY CAN BUY THE TWO, TWO PIECES FOR THAT.
I I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION THAT WE, UH, WE HAVE A TUB GRINDER THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO BE BUYING A NEW ONE OF.
IT CAUGHT ON FIRE SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN COURT.
YEAH, THE TUB GRINDER AT THE SOUTH AT THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER.
WELL, IT'S THE ONLY TUB GRINDER BECAUSE YOU ALL SHARE IT.
AND MY GUY'S BEEN WORKING ON IT.
WE, WE DO A LOT OF REPAIR POS FOR THAT TUB GRINDER.
SO, AND IT, IT APPEARS TO BE, UH, BURN BURNED.
UH, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, $4,500 WORTH OF PROTECTIVE CLOTHING.
THAT WOULD BE THREE SETS OF PROTECTIVE CLOTHING.
AND KURT, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT? PROTECTIVE CLOTHING FOR FIVE.
UM, THE LAST THING THAT HAD NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IS THE VERY LAST PAGE OF THE CAP, NON CAP FOR THE COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE.
UM, THEY REQUESTING 39,000 FOR A FORD EXPLORER AND 5,500 FOR A SHIPPING CONTAINER TO STORE STUFF IN.
WE, WE'VE PURCHASED VEHICLES FOR THEM LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND AS FAR AS THE SHIPPING CONTAINER IS CONCERNED, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN PLACE THAT AT THEIR LOCATION, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE AFTER.
I THINK THERE'S ONE THERE THAT THEY SAID THAT JUVENILE PROBATION HAS THAT IS NOT USED AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT.
AND I DIDN'T HEAR A REPORT BACK FROM THAT.
WHILE WE'RE ON CAPTAIN ONCAP, UM, SHERIFF CHIEF, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF STUFF ON HERE ON CAP, NON CAP THAT WE'VE APPROVED.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH WE'RE WRESTLING WITH THE STEPPING GRADE IF THERE'S ITEMS ON HERE THAT COULD BE DELAYED A YEAR.
SO THEY, SO WHAT YOU SEE LEFT IS ALL EMPLOYEE NEW, EMPLOYEE RELATED, WHICH THEY JUST SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA FOREGO WELL, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS THAT'S ALL APPROVED.
I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THERE THAT WE'VE APPROVED, 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE JUST ON THE, UH, PATROL LINE, IT'S 1.25 MILLION.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE TRAINING OR ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANY OF THAT.
IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANYTHING HERE THAT COULD BE DELAYED OR DEFERRED THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US AS WE LOOK AT THE STEP IN GRADE ISSUE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE LINES HERE, THE, UH, ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY EQUIPMENT THAT EITHER HAS TO BE REPLACED OR NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO EXPAND OUR CAPABILITIES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, WE'VE BOUGHT AS MUCH, WE'VE SPENT $300,000 MAYBE OUT OF OUR FEDERAL AND STATE SEIZES ASSET FUNDS OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUYING CARS AND EQUIPMENT OUTFITTING FOR VEHICLES.
UM, WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO MINIMIZE THE COST AND IMPACT ON TAXPAYERS AND LOOK FOR EXTERNAL SOURCES.
UM, AND THAT, SO WE, WE BOUGHT A LOT OF OUR OWN EQUIPMENT USING THOSE, THOSE, UH, SEIZE ASSET FUNDS AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
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CONTINUE TO DO THAT.UM, LOOKING DOWN THE, THROUGH THIS, THIS IS STUFF THAT WE NEED.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TAKING ANYTHING OFF THAT'S GONNA BE UNSAFE FOR.
THE GUYS, UNFORTUNATELY, THE, A LOT OF THE, THE EXPENSIVE ITEMS ON HERE, LIKE THE SHIELDS AND THE BODY ARMOR AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE A, A LIFE EXPECTANCY AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT CERTAIN POINTS AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.
UM, I, I CAN'T, I LOOK, I'VE LOOKED THROUGH THIS MYRIAD OF TIMES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD CUT, WHAT WE COULD WHITTLE DOWN.
AND THIS IS NOT ALL THAT WAS REQUESTED BY MY COMMANDERS, BY MY CAPTAINS AND LIEUTENANTS.
UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE ON THERE THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ONTO THIS LIST THAT I, I, I DEEMED AND THE SHERIFF DEEMED WERE MORE WANTS THAN NEEDS AT THIS POINT.
SO WHAT I PROVIDED, WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDED TO THE COURT IS, IS BASICALLY OUR, OUR BASIC NEEDS AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'VE GOT.
BUT THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT FOR AS FAR AS, UH, THE BUILDING RENOVATION.
THE, THE, SO IT'S ON THE BACK PAGE OF THAT, THE NEW BUILDING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE MONEY.
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THAT, THAT MODULAR BUILDING TO FINISH THAT JOB.
SO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR, SO FOR THE PARKING LOT, UM, AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS AND Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THESE THREE ITEMS. UM, THIS 179,600 FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING PARKING LOT.
THEN THERE'S $500,000 FOR THE AUTO REGISTRATION REMODEL AND $500,000 FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR BUILDING GROUNDS.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ROLLOVER ITEMS. UM, WE HAVE COMMUNICATION CONCEPT SOFTWARE FOR CCL TWO AND ARMORED, UM, VEST FOR THEIR BAILIFF THAT WOULD BE ROLLED OVER, UH, VEHICLE OUTFITTING FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER OR INVESTIGATOR AND CONSTABLE TWO, THOSE ITEMS NEED TO BE ROLLED OVER AND, UM, BUILDING GROUNDS GEL HVAC PROJECT, UM, THERE'S ABOUT $5,100 OR $5,200 OF THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ROLLED OVER.
AND THEN ON THE MODULAR BUILDING, THERE'S STILL $156,000, $156,700 THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT ROLLED OVER.
THAT'S, I DON'T, AND THAT IS TO DO THE PARKING LOTS AND THE SITE WORK.
'CAUSE I MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BRIANNA, THAT HAS TO BE PAID BACK OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE.
IT'S GOTTA BE PAID BACK OUT OF THE GENERAL.
ANY WORK THAT'S EVER COMPLETED BY A PRECINCT FOR GENERAL FUND HAS TO BE REIMBURSED.
UM, SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, IT WAS 440,250.
THAT WAS FOR THE MODULAR BUILDING DELIVERY AND METAL RAMPS AND HOOKUP.
AND SO FROM THE POS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN SEE THAT ARE ENCUMBERED 425,760 ARE ENCUMBERED.
SO THAT WOULD LEAVE 14,490 AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT.
NOT INCLUDING THE PARKING LOT CLEARING.
AND IF ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE NOT GOT A PO FOR, DO THEY HAVE A PO FOR CONCRETE? 'CAUSE THERE HAS TO BE SIDEWALKS AND THERE HAS TO BE, THEY HAVE TO BE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE A RATHER LARGE FIGURE MORE THAN, CERTAINLY MORE THAN 14,000.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT I LOOKED AT WAS OVERALL EVERYTHING THAT WAS BUDGETED IN THE, IN THIS GL ACCOUNT WAS FOR THE ROLLOVER, FOR THE GEL FOR THE HVAC PROJECT.
UM, THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS WE UNDERSTAND.
THEN WE HAVE THE MODULAR BUILDING.
THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT WAS APPROVED WAS 350,000 TO GO TOWARDS THE 14 BED GEL EXPANSION.
UM, AND SO THAT IS ON HOLD, RIGHT.
SO WE DO HAVE ENCUMBRANCES OF 74,000, SIX 40.
KIM'S CONFIRMING HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO PAY OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA PAY ALL OF THAT BECAUSE THE PORTION I THINK WAS RELATED TO IF THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION IN THE OVERSIGHT.
SO FROM THAT PROJECT THAT WAS APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR, THERE'S 275,000 AND SINCE THAT EXPANSION'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, WE COULD USE A PART OF THAT FUNDING TO ROLL OVER FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY IS OUR,
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OUR TAX NOTE.SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT EXPENDITURES WE HAVE REMAINING.
UM, WE HAVE THE FINAL PREMIER, UM, PAYOFF FOR THAT.
UM, BUT WHAT IS AVAILABLE AFTER THAT IS, UM, NINE 99,415.
AND SO ORIGINALLY FOR ALL THOSE PROJECTS, THERE WAS CONTINGENCY THAT WE TOOK FROM, AND SO THAT IS REMAINING.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, THAT BE USED BECAUSE, SO YOU'VE GOT SOME MONEY TO OFFSET IT, BUT WE JUST, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE MARKER IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND SO IF WE THINK 99,415 IS SUFFICIENT, WE CAN USE THAT PLUS GIVE ANOTHER CONTINGENCY FUND 10 ROLLOVER FOR WHAT'S LEFT ON THE EXPANSION.
THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE COMING UP WITH FROM HERE.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE NEXT THING I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE, UH, UH, ELECT NEW ELECTIONS.
DO WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT THERE TO COVER OR WE ANTICIPATE THE EXPENSES OF THAT REMODEL PROJECT IS, UH, WE'LL HAVE A HOPEFULLY AN ESTIMATE ON THE DEMO PART PORTION THIS WEEK AND, UM, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF CONSTRUCTION, WELL WE TOLD 'EM THAT WE'RE NOT GOING OVER 500,000.
THAT'S WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR.
AND THEY, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT BUDGET THAT, UM, JACOB MARTIN ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THAT BUDGET FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT GUY IN THE LAST MEETING, I, THAT SAID IT, HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT, AND WE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA OTHER THAN THE 99,000 FROM THE INTEREST ON THE TAX NOTE.
BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ARBITRAGE AND BECAUSE THAT'S A MOVING UNTIL WE SPEND THOSE FUNDS, THAT'S WHEN IT STOPS THE CLOCK.
SO UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT OUR LIABILITY IS THERE, I WOULDN'T REC, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER TO GIVE YOU ALL, BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE HAVE 99,415.
OTHER THAN THOSE TWO, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT'S GONNA BE A, HAS TO BE.
SO WE DO, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF THE AUTO REGISTRATION INSURANCE CLAIM.
SO YOU ALL HAD APPROVED $110,000 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR POS RIGHT NOW ARE FOR MOWING.
PART OF THE HALLWAY THAT'S IN, IN THAT DEPARTMENT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REPAINTED BECAUSE PARTS OF IT WERE CUT OUT, BUT PARTS WEREN'T FROM THE MOLD.
SO THE WHOLE THING IS GONNA BE NEEDED TO BE REPAINTED.
BUT TEXTURING DOES IT PROBABLY GONNA BE INCLUDED IN INSURANCE COVERAGE IF WE GET INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THIS? I STILL KNOW WHERE, SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GONNA, WE JUST GOT THE ENGINEER REPORT BACK TODAY.
AND SO TAC IS REVIEWING THAT AND WILL LET US KNOW HOPEFULLY VERY SOON WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT ARE.
UM, BUT FOR ADDITIONAL STUFF ON THAT, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL IS GONNA COST.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE COVERED BY THE INSURANCE.
IF WE COULD BUDGET AN ADDITIONAL $40,000 OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY, THAT'S ALREADY IN FUND 10.
CURRENTLY THAT 1.8, THAT'S WHERE WE TOOK THE ONE 10 OUT OF.
IF WE CAN ADD $40,000 OF TO THAT AND ROLL THAT TO 25 OKAY.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UM, TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THE SAME COMPANY CAN DO THE REMODEL THAT'S DOING THE RECONSTRUCTION, THAT MORING.
'CAUSE THEY CAN DO IT UNDER A CO-OP CONTRACT, UM, AND GET A QUOTE FROM THEM FOR THAT.
AND IT MIGHT SAVE US SOME MONEY THAT WOULD BE FINISHED OF, OF THE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION FROM THE MOLD.
THOSE EXPENSES KIND OF BE KIND OF WRAPPED INTO ALL IN ONE AND NOT HAVE TO RE REDO FLOORING OR ANY OF THAT STUFF.
SO IT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS CONTINGENCY.
WHERE, WHERE ARE WE HEADED THERE? I, WE'RE GONNA NEED, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT, HOW MUCH DID WE, HOW MUCH DID WE SET IN CONTINGENCY FOR THE BUDGET THIS PAST, THIS PREVIOUS YEAR? 2 MILLION.
HOW MUCH IS LEFT OUT OF THAT? UM, WE DID A COUPLE THIS WEEK.
THAT'S KIND OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
AND THE, THE, I MEAN THE TWO, WELL THE AUTO REGISTRATION, THAT WAS A BIG ONE.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS WE BUDGET, UM, INSURANCE PREMIUM BASED ON PROJECTIONS.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE, WHICH UM, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY UPDATE ON THAT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH PCAD RELATED TO OUR, UM, APPRAISAL COLLECTION.
I THINK LAST YEAR WHAT HAPPENED IS WITH THE, WHETHER THE
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SCHOOL, WITH THE SCHOOL FUNDING PIECE, BASICALLY OUR TAXABLE VALUE WENT WAY UP.I THINK IT WAS FOR THE HOMESTEAD CAP OR SOMETHING, I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY THE COUNTY'S PORTION WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO THAT, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING BIG SITTING OUT THERE, BUT I'LL CONFIRM WHETHER ANYTHING HAS CHANGED FROM WHAT THEY, THE ESTIMATES THEY'VE GIVEN ME.
SO THOSE WERE THE TWO BIG ONES.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THINGS CAN COME UP.
I MEAN, IT, IT, THAT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, PER, YOU KNOW, THE PD BUILDING WHEN THAT CAME UP FOR SALE.
I MEAN, PART OF IT, IT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN CONTINGENCY.
YOU CAN ONLY PULL FROM FUND BALANCE IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, NOT AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO IT'S JUST, I GUESS WHATEVER THE COURT FEELS COMFORTABLE SETTING AS A CONTINGENCY IN THE EVENT THAT THINGS ARISE.
WHETHER THE, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE SET THAT CONTINGENCY IN THERE IS THAT IT GOES INTO OUR BUDGET.
IT SAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND WHATEVER YOU TELLING US, WE'VE GONE OVER PREVIOUS YEARS BUDGET, YOU CAN ADD 2 MILLION IF WE HAD 2 MILLION TO THAT BUDGET.
AND I ALWAYS PUT AN ASTERISK NEXT TO IT OF SAYING, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT IT IS.
AND EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS HAVE TO EXPLAIN OF ON THE CREDIT CALLS, WHAT PART, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU BALANCE WITH FUND BALANCE.
AND I LOOK AT WHAT OUR CAPITAL IS, I SAY WHAT IS CONTINGENCY? SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.
BUT I DO LIKE EVEN JUST ON THE SUMMARY OR YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT YEAR, WHAT IS OUR CONTINGENCY IN THERE? NOT NECESSARILY A WHETHER RECURRING EXPENSE OR CAPITAL EXPENSE.
WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH $2 MILLION IN THAT, IN THAT SLOT NEXT YEAR? YEAH.
WHAT ELSE IS HANGING OUT THERE? SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, WE, WE NEED TO ROLL OVER 60,000, $50 FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER MASTER STUDY WITH THE ARCHITECT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD TODAY, IF WE NEED TO CONSIDER UPPING THAT.
ANY, UM, BASED ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
SO THAT THE STUDY'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
SOME OF Y'ALL MIGHT KNOW, BUT WHAT WAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? 60,000.
$50 IS LEFT OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH, UM, HDR ARCHITECTS.
HOW MUCH WAS THE CONTRACT FOR 150,000? UH, WE HAD ALLOCATED 150,000 LAST YEAR.
SO THERE'S STILL GONNA BE SOME OTHER WORK AND THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A FINAL BILLING.
I MEAN THIS BILLING WILL GO ON INTO THE SPRING WHEN WE START.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE THERE.
SO THE SCOPE OF WORK HASN'T BEEN CHANGED FOR THEM.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY CHANGE ORDERS OR ADDERS.
NOT SURE WHAT, AND I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE.
UM, THE TYLER FINANCIAL SOFTWARE, UM, THERE'S 443 3,193 LEFT.
UM, THAT WAS BUDGETED THIS YEAR THAT WE NEED TO ROLL THAT OVER TO CONTINUE ON THE, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOFTWARE.
AND THEN, UM, THE CURRENT FOR THE RENOVATION AS WE DISCUSSED, ALL LIKE, UH, EARLIER FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING 481,618, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN ROLLED AND YOU ARE ALREADY APPROVED ALL THAT.
WE JUST NEED THE, THE SOFTWARE FOR THE CCL TWO, THE MES OUTFITTING CONSTABLE TWO OUTFITTING, AND UM, THE 50 OR 40,000 FOR AUTO REGISTRATION'S INSURANCE CLAIM.
AND THEN THE HVAC PROJECT, $5,100.
ALL THOSE TO BE APPROVED TO ROLL.
THOSE JUST NEED TO BE ROLLED OVER AND THEY NEED AN APPROVAL TO BE ROLLED OVER.
THAT'S MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED.
AND THEN THIS YEAR THEY'LL JUST BE PUT IN NEXT YEAR BUDGET.
SO ARE YOU GONNA, SO THE ADDITIONAL 40,000 WOULD BE TAKING IT FOR CONTINGENCY.
AND SO WE WILL, I'LL GET THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THE 20 THIRDS COURT.
THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WALL AND THE SECOND ITEM CAN COMMISSIONER HAM ADD ITEM? PROBABLY, WE'LL SEE WHAT IT IS.
WHAT IS IT? THE CHRISTMAS TREE? OH YEAH.
THERE WAS $2,791 FROM PREVIOUS YEAR DONATIONS.
THERE WAS A DONATION THAT WAS JUST ACCEPTED OF 4,500 AND THEN THE REST OF IT WAS COMING FROM THE SPECIAL EVENTS LINE AND BUILDING AND GROUNDS.
AND SO THE REQUEST IS TO ROLL IT BUT PUT IT ALL IN 4 0 2 TO AVOID THE SPLIT PO.
I'LL MAKE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE CAN'T DISAPPOINT SANTA CLAUS.
CAN WE? IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD NOT A GOOD THING.
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THE ONLY OTHER PIECE WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE CAN APPROPRIATE THE 99,415 FROM THE TAX NOTE FOR, UM, THE MODULAR BUILDING.I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ROLL OVER ANY ADDITIONAL AND FUND 10 THAT'S SITTING THERE.
WHERE'S MY PAPER? WELL, FROM, FROM TALKING TO UH, MARK LONG, UH, I MEAN THO THERE WAS NEVER ANY ACCOMMODATION MADE FOR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO DO.
WE BOUGHT THE BUILDING AND WE BOUGHT THE BUILDING SET UP.
BUT AS FAR AS ANY SITE PREPARATION OR CONCRETE WORK OR PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE GOTTA COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I WILL MENTION TOO THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OUTTA THEIR FORFEITURE FUNDS, UM, IS PAYING FOR DEATHS AND ALL THE RELATED THAT'S EXACTLY, YEAH.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO ROLL OVER AN ADDITIONAL, I MEAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR 150.
I MEAN THAT SEEMS HIGH FROM THE 99.
I WOULD THINK THAT A HUNDRED I WOULD THINK THAT I HAVE NO IDEA.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, PROBABLY THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FIGURE IS PROBABLY ENOUGH.
BUT SOME OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXECUTED BECAUSE THE, THE WATER'S BEEN HOOKED UP OR THE WATER'S READY TO BE HOOKED UP.
AND THAT WAS FROM DRIP MASTERS.
THAT'S PO'S BEEN DONE AND I'M SURE THE ELECTRICAL'S BEEN DONE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT TOO WAS ELECTRICAL.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH SEWER PROBABLY.
AND THEN COMPLETING THE PARKING LOT IS WE'RE, WE'RE REMOVING THE SOIL TODAY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE BASE IN THERE AND GET READY TO BUILD THE PARKING LOT.
SO HOPEFULLY THE 99,000 AND THEN MAYBE ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL CAN COME FROM THAT 500,000 FOR THE SPECIAL PROJECTS.
AND THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF THAT CREDIT THAT WAS ON THAT TRAIN.
AND IT, SO ON THE HVAC PROJECT, UM, BUILDING GROUNDS IS ASKED TO ROLL 52, 51 97, 41 TO TRAIN THAT TO BE ROLLED OVER FOR WHERE'S THAT PROJECT? AT THE JAIL.
THE JAIL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE'LL USE THE 99,000 IN THE TAX NOTE TO COVER THESE PROJECTS.
ANY EXCESS, IF IT EXCEEDS THAT, WE'LL THEN BE COME COMING FROM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS BUDGET OF 500,000.
SO THAT LEAVES THE LAST PART TO, WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM ON THE MOTION THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE PAPER? CARRIE? MY VOTE? YEAH.
SO WE JUST STILL NEED A VOTE ON THE, THE TAX NOTE.
DO WE HAVE, THEY HAVE TO THAT THE TAX NOTE ROLLING THOSE AMOUNTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION UPSTAIRS.
UM, 159,000 323 29 TO PREMIER COMMERCIAL GROUP IN 1872.
UM, KOMATSU FOR THE ARCHITECT ENGINEER MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALTON.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIE'S.
UM, REAL QUICK, THERE'S SOME CONTRACT SERVICES, STUFF THAT'S RELATED TO IT.
ITEMS, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.
SO THISTLE SHEET, SMALL SHEET DEPARTMENT OF 4 39, WHICH IS COUNTY COURT AT LAW TO, UM, THEY'VE REQUESTED THE TASER, WHICH IS A LEASE ITEM.
THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT LISTED UNDER OUR CAP NON CAP'S LEASE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S AN ITEM THAT FOR $909 AND 96 CENTS AND IT'S LIKE FIVE FOUR YEAR.
MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
WE HAVE A SECOND WARRANTY'S FOUR.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S ALL, I THINK THEY'RE FOUR.
I SECOND WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? DO THESE GO BAD? IS THERE A LIFE SPAN ON THESE FAVORS? WELL, IT'S FOR THE, THE BAILIFF UPSTAIRS.
BUT THESE TASERS, IS THAT A FIVE YEAR LEASE? ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WELL.
SO THE WAY THE AXON CONTRACT WORKS IS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A LEASE.
WE ACTUALLY OWN THE EQUIPMENT.
WE JUST PAY IT OUT OVER FIVE YEARS AND THEY DO GO BAD.
BUT THERE'S FREE REPLACEMENT IF IT GOES BAD UNDER THE CONTRACT.
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NO, YOU'RE NOT TAGGING.MOTION CARRIES POVO CONVERSATION.
ELECTIONS, UM, IS REQUESTING THE NOT REPORTING SOFTWARE FOR $6,700.
AND THAT IS ALREADY IN, BECAUSE IT WAS INCLUDED IN A CONTRACT SERVICE LINE.
THIS ONE WAS IN THE BUDGET PREVIOUSLY.
SO IT'S NOT ADDING TO IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, THEN I'LL MOTION BE ABU.
COMMISSIONER CONLEY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES ABOUT, ABOUT FOR SPECIAL CRIMES.
UM, $153 FOR PHOTOSHOP SOFTWARE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SORRY.
CURIOUS FIVE OH, ONLINE ACCESS CRADLE POINTS FOR PATROL $6,072.
SAY WHAT THAT IS AGAIN? YEAH, CRADLE POINTS.
WHAT IS THAT? WHICH, WHICH AGENCY IS THIS? THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UH, SO THE CRADLE POINTS, UH, BASICALLY THE CRADLE POINT IS LIKE A, A COMMAND NODE FOR EACH PATROL CAR.
THAT'S WHAT, UM, TRANSMITS ALL THE DATA TO AND FROM THE COUNTY NETWORK.
UH, THE MOBILE, ALL THE VIDEO THAT GOES FROM THE AXON AND CAR CAMERAS AND BODY CAMERAS, EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THE CRADLE POINT.
SO IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S THE ACCESS POINT REACH PATROL CAR.
IS, IS THERE REASONABLE? VERY EXPENSIVE.
THE COST IS NOT ACTUALLY THE DEVICE.
THE COST IS A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL I FAVOR HEARING
SO, UM, THE PATROL, THE NEW PATROL BUILDING IS, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, A WATER AND ICE MACHINE FOR THAT BUILDING.
UM, AND THEY'LL SHARE IT WITH THE PATROL OR NCID THAT IN THE MAIN BUILDING, UM, FOR $2,376.
IT'S A YEAR YEARLY RENTAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL.
I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY YOU THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH.
AND THEN, UM, ADOBE PRO LICENSES THROUGH IT FOR 8,030.
IS THAT ENOUGH? KAYLA? IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE IT HERE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FOR FUND 10.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN UPDATE OFF.
SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF SEVEN THOU $7,194,801 AND 47 CENTS OF APPROVED CAP, NON CAP PLUS ROLLOVER.
READ IT AGAIN? $7,194,801 AND 47 CENTS.
I DID NOT GET THIS RIGHT HERE.
DO Y'ALL WANNA GO ON TO, UM, PRECINCT CAP, MORE CAP OR, LET'S DO IT.
[I.B. Discuss/Vote on Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough /Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]
I GOT ANOTHER, UH, DEAL ABOUT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE.[01:35:01]
THAT? YEP.BECKY, READY TO, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE HIRED A EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GUY AND WE HAVE A, AN INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL THAT IS READY TO LEAVE.
SO WE NEED TO GET, PUT SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR HIRING A NEW FIRE MARSHAL AND BECKY.
YEAH, SO COMMISSIONER CONLEY ASKED ME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
SO WE CALLED AROUND SOME, TO SOME NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND COUNTIES OUR SIZE TO KIND OF FIND OUT A SALARY RANGE FOR JUST A FIRE MARSHAL POSITION.
UM, THE SALARY THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO BUDGET IT AT WOULD BE 86,500 WITH ALL THE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE CERT PAYS UNIFORM, UH, BENEFITS WOULD BE A TOTAL COST OF 1 36, 1 71.
NOW IF, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE'S PART-TIME MONEY IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
SO IF MR. HARRIS WAS TO LEAVE, WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, HELP OFFSET WITH SOME OF THE PART-TIME MONEY.
BUT, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BUDGET FOR THIS AND THEN WORK AROUND THE YEAH, WE CAN, I MEAN, AS HE MAKES A DECISION TO LEAVE, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS, AND THEN WE NEED TO, OR WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY ALREADY HAVE A VEHICLE IN PLACE.
WE DON'T NEED TO, WE SHOULD BUDGET A VEHICLE OR ANYTHING.
YEAH, I WOULD THINK SO BECAUSE BASICALLY, I MEAN THERE WAS THE ASSISTANT EMC POSITION THAT YEAH, THE ANSWER IS YES, WE HAVE A VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE ABOUT TO ADD A POSITION THERE.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO BOTH JOBS LIKE WE HAD BEFORE.
NO, WE DID NOT HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO BOTH JOBS.
WELL, HOLD ON, LET'S, LET'S BACK UP A SECOND HERE.
UM, WE, WE DID, WE, WE CERTAINLY DID.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE OPTION TO, UM, SPLIT THAT POSITION IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE DID NOT APPROVE OR WE DID NOT HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
TO YOUR POINT, UH, TO HIRE TWO PEOPLE HERE.
IT WAS THE ONE TO ASSUME BOTH POSITIONS THE SAME AS WHAT THE FORMER ONE THAT LEFT, UH, DID.
AND TO, UH, THEN LOOK IN THE, LOOK AT A FUTURE TIME TO SPLIT THESE AND, AND, AND, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION WAS.
AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HE DIDN'T HIRE ON TO DO BOTH JOBS.
SO WE BETTER TELL HIM THAT HE WELL, 'CAUSE HE DID, HE SAYS HE'S NOT GONNA DO BOTH JOBS.
THEN THERE, THERE'S A DISCONNECT BECAUSE WHAT THE DIRECTION WAS IS TO EMPHASIZE THE, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OF THIS WITH THE ASSUMPTION, WITH THE ASSUMING OF THE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL POSITION ON AN INTERIM BASIS UNTIL AT SOME POINT WE CAN MOVE TO TWO POSITIONS.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE CASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? YEAH, I, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I THINK I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH COMMISSIONER CONLEY, IS THAT WE WERE GONNA BRING SOMEONE IN WHO WAS GONNA DO BOTH WHEN YOU SAY INTERIM FOR A VERY INTERIM PERIOD AS IN A COUPLE WEEKS OR MONTHS OR SOMETHING, BUT NOT FOR AN ENTIRE BUDGET.
YEAH, WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT AN INTER A A TIME PERIOD OF THIS.
IT WAS JUST WE TALKED ABOUT OUR, OUR OUR FUTURE PLAN WAS, IS TO HAVE TWO POSITIONS THERE.
BUT IT WAS NOT, UH, THIS IS, I REMEMBER VIVIDLY HOW THE DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND IT WAS NEVER, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT WE WERE GONNA HIRE ONE PERSON TO TAKE THOSE TWO JOBS WITH THE EMPHASIS ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND US TAKING THAT ROLE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL UNTIL WE SPLIT THOSE POSITIONS.
JUDGE, IF THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION, I WASN'T IN THE ROOM FOR THAT CONVERSATION.
SO WE NEED TO TELL THE MAN WE HIRED 'CAUSE HE SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS NOT GOING TO DO BOTH.
WHEN DID HE SAY THAT? WELL, I ASKED HIM IN THERE WHEN WE INTERVIEWED HIM.
WELL, IT, BUT Y'ALL, Y'ALL, Y'ALL VETTED HIM.
SO I I WOULDN'T BE PRIVY TO THAT.
SO AS I RECALL, HE SAID THAT HE HAD FOLKS WHO REPORTED TO HIM FOR A BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME WHO, OR I BELIEVE THE, THE FIRE MARSHAL OR THE FIRE CHIEF THAT A PRIOR POSITION REPORTED TO HIM FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE DID NOT FEEL LIKE HE WAS BECKER.
WHAT DID THE, WHAT DID THE APPLICATION SAY ON THERE? TELL US WHAT IT SAID.
IT SAID EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
DIRECTOR DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FIRE MARSHAL.
THE APPLICATION SAYS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WENT OVER HEAVILY AT THE BEGINNING WAS, AND IF WE HAD SOMEONE WHO COULD DO BOTH, JUDGE, WE WERE LIMITING OUR POOL BY A 10TH.
BUT THE PERSON WAS GONNA HAVE BOTH ROLES WITH THE FOCUS ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO, WE, WE KNEW THE ARGUMENT OF THAT.
AND SO WE FOCUSED ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE DID, BUT WE NEVER, WE NEVER AS A, AS A BODY AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY SPLIT THOSE POSITIONS.
NOW, UM, 'CAUSE IN FACT, I GOT A CALL, I THINK IT WAS FROM YOU COMMISSIONER CONLEY, THAT I THINK THERE WAS SOME
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CONCERN FROM COMMISSIONER WALDEN THAT THERE WAS, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING IS, AND NO, THE EMPHASIS WAS TO PUT IT ON EMS BUT TO ASSUME THE ROLE OF FIRE MARSHAL ON AN INTERIM BASIS.AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, WE NEVER REALLY PUT A TIMETABLE ON WHEN WE WERE GONNA DO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DISCONNECT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
WE NEVER PUT A TIMETABLE ON WHEN WE WERE GOING TO SPLIT THAT POSITION AT SOME POINT.
WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT'S THE ISSUE.
FOR A FIRE MARSHAL SOMEDAY, UH, KURT HARRIS, UH, MR. HARRIS TO HOW MUCH LONGER ARE YOU WILLING TO SERVE? BE HONEST WITH US.
DON'T TELL US A BUNCH OF BULL
I WON'T TELL YOU A BUNCH OF BULL I FOR, FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT I, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIRING AND GOING BACK TO JACK COUNTY AND I I I AGREED TO HELP YOU OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS MORE FROM TODAY.
I WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE EXTENT OF, OF WHAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AND, AND I ENJOY.
I MEAN, THIS IS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY HOME AND, AND I, AND I LOVE GIVING BACK TO PARKER COUNTY AND WEATHERFORD, BUT MY TIME IS, IS GETTING SHORTER.
THIS IS A THIS AND MR. HARRIS, THIS QUESTION'S FOR YOU.
THIS MAY BE A DUMB QUESTION, BUT WHAT CERTIFICATIONS DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BE A FIRE MARSHAL? WELL, THEY, THEY NEED A FIRE MARSHALS CERTIFICATION.
AND, AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A TRUE FIRE MARSHAL, THEY'LL ALSO NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO MY SUGGESTION TO THE COURT IS THAT PERHAPS WE COULD CALL THE ESDS AND THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET CONTRACTED HELP ON TO TIDE US OVER.
IT WOULD BE FAR LESS THAN A FULL-TIME POSITION.
AND WITH COORDINATION FROM MR. LANE, MAYBE THAT'S A STOP GAP FOR A YEAR.
WHAT DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY BUDGETED FOR THE PART-TIME? 60,000.
AND WHICH STAFF IN SALARY? THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS TIED TO THAT AS WELL.
LOWER THAT NUMBER DOWN TO HELP OFFSET.
BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S POINT, IT'S $136,000.
THAT'S, THAT'S A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY WHEN WE'RE ALREADY AS FAR IN THE HOLE AS WE ARE AT THE SAME TIME.
THIS COUNTY'S GOTTA HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL.
I GUESS I WAS MISLED BECAUSE I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WERE HIRING SOMEBODY TO BE FIRE MARSHAL AND, AND UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
I GUESS COMMISSIONER HOPE WAS MISLED BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WE UNDERSTOOD IT.
AND THE APPLICATION EVEN SAID I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE.
Y'ALL WERE, WELL I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
YOU NOT BEING ON THE COMMITTEE OR ON THE COMMITTEE? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M TALKING ABOUT 136,171 TO ADD ONTO A BUDGET SETTING HERE.
YEAH, WELL WE HAVE 60, THAT'S THE BUDGETED CURRENTLY.
WELL MY OPINION IS THAT THE COUNTY THAT'S GROWING AS FAST AS WE'RE GROWING AND AS BIG AS WE ARE IN NEEDS OF FIRE MARSHAL, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD NUMEROUS TIMES.
SO IF WE TAKE OUT YOUR SALARY, WE'RE LOOKING AT 70,000 ACTUALLY IN THAT 76.
ABOUT 74 IS WHAT I WOULD BUDGET FOR 25.
YEAH, WELL, WHATEVER WE CAN WORK OUT.
SO IT'S A NET ZERO IMPACT IF WE CONTRACT IT OUT AND KEEP THAT NUMBER UNDER 60 ON THE YEAR UHHUH.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA NEED PART, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND SEE ANOTHER THAT AND WE DID IN THE COUNTIES THAT WE TALKED TO, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.
THE LADY WAS TO GREEN COUNTY, THEIR SERVED FARM.
WELL, IF THE COURT WOULD LIKE, I DON'T MIND RUNNING THOSE TRAPS.
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WELL AGAIN, MY OPINION IS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE NEED A FIRE MARSHAL, BUT WE NEED TO CONSIDER A FIRE CODE AND GIVE THEM, I MEAN SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE AGREE NEEDS TO BE APPLICABLE FOR US.BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDER THE STATE CODE, THE NFPA ONE AND NFPA 1 0 1 AND THAT, THAT HOWEVER GOOD A CODE THAT IS THE IFC IS A MUCH BETTER CODE.
MUCH EASIER TO READ, MUCH EASIER TO, TO UTILIZE.
AND, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT TOO BECAUSE THAT GIVES US SOME TEETH AND IT'LL, IT'LL GET SOME MONEY COMING BACK INTO THE COFFERS BECAUSE YOU CAN START CHARGING FOR PERMITS AND FOR INSPECTIONS.
RIGHT NOW WE JUST TELL 'EM YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT FIRE CODES FROM THE PREVIOUS GUY FOR A COUPLE YEARS,
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT THIS.
SO WE EITHER TELL THE GUY WE HIRED TO BE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT HE HAS TO DO BOTH, WHICH HE'S NOT QUALIFIED TO DO BOTH.
I THINK I RECALL A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT SAID THAT IF YOU WANTED THIS GUY TO BE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THEN YOU WOULD SELECT SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY IN THE DEPARTMENT TO BE THE FIRE MARSHAL.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE LEFT.
THERE IS AN INVESTIGATOR AT THAT DEPARTMENT.
SO CAN RANDY BE THE FIRE MARSHAL? HE COULD BE, COULD DO AN INTERIM ON AN INTERIM BASIS FOR AN INTERIM TITLE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE MAKE A DETERMINATION OR BE ABLE TO AFFORD, UM, SPLITTING THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST AT SOME POINT TO THERE'S NO TIMETABLE THAT WAS EVER DEFINED.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS, IS THAT WE JUST NEVER REALLY PUT THAT, BUT THERE WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION ON MAKING THOSE TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS.
UH, BECAUSE THAT CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS WHEN DISAGREE WITH THAT, IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN WAS, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE'RE GONNA HIRE TWO PEOPLE.
I THOUGHT I WAS CLEAR WITH THAT, WITH THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE HIRING ONE PERSON THAT WAS GONNA BE UNTIL WE CAN AFFORD THIS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE PLAN LONG TERM OR DOWN THE ROAD PLAN WAS, IS TO SPLIT THOSE OFF.
AND THAT WAS NOT THE DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THOSE WERE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAD.
SO, 'CAUSE WHAT BROUGHT THAT OUT IS THAT I WAS, I WAS, I WAS COMMUNICATED THAT COMMISSIONER
SO, BUT THAT AIN'T HOW I HEARD IT.
SO I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION ON THAT THEN.
AND JUDGE, IF, IF YOU HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I, I WAS NOT IN THE ROOM AT THE TIME.
I HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
UM, I TALKED TO YOU ON THE PHONE TWO OR THREE TIMES.
WELL, BUT IT WAS NOT AND YOU SAID YEAH.
I NEVER SAID WE WERE GONNA SPLIT THAT UP IN, IN THIS BUDGET AT ALL.
IT WAS GONNA BE, THEY WERE GONNA ASSUME THAT ROLE, BUT THE EMPHASIS WAS, I MEAN, WE DON'T, AGAIN, I THINK THE EMPHASIS IS ON THE EMS. LET'S JUST FIX THE PROBLEM.
LET'S, LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
IF'S ALL CAN WE POINT, RANDY IS A FIRE MARSH AND I MOVE TO THE POINT.
RANDY, WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME? FRANKS.
FRANKS IS A FIRE MARSHAL INTERIM INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
KURT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPOINTED OR WE'RE GONNA TAKE KURT AWAY.
'CAUSE KURT'S GONNA BE HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE MONTHS.
WELL, CAN YOU REFINE THE MOTION THAT HE BE SAID MISTAKE? TWO MORE, BUT HE PROBABLY READY, WE COULD WORK.
HE'S NOT OLD ENOUGH TO RETIRE.
YEAH, RANDY, HE'S A, HE'S A GOOD INVESTIGATOR.
HE, AND HE KNOWS THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I I MEAN THE EOC REALLY? WELL, I THINK HE WOULD MAKE A, A REALLY GOOD INTERIM FOR YOU AND HE'S GOT ALL THE CERTIFICATIONS, SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT TODAY THEN.
ALL RIGHT, RICARD, THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON FOR A COUPLE MONTHS.
ANY OTHER, OH, COME ON BACK UP.
I FORGOT ABOUT, GEEZ, DO WE NEED TO DO
[I.A. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 3)]
THE TEXAS RUNS ON WATER DEAL? YOU CAN DO THAT UNDER GENERAL UPDATE.[01:50:04]
OKAY.CAN WE MOVE TO THAT REAL QUICK? SO, UH, THIS IS THE, SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE WATER SITUATION IS.
WE LEAD THE, WE LEAD THE STATE IN NUMBER OF WATER WELLS DRILLED BY LAST YEAR OR 2022 BY MORE THAN DOUBLE PARDON OUT.
UH, YOU CAN HAND IT OUT TO 'EM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO READ IT LINE BY LINE.
BASICALLY $30,000 IS THE AMOUNT TO CREATE A, AND, AND WE HAD THIS PRESENTATION IN COURT SEVERAL SESSIONS AGO TO CREATE A, UH, DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS VERSION OF CONSERVING WATER.
THIS WILL CREATE ADVERTISING, GRAPHICS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF TO INCREASE THE SOCIAL AWARENESS OF DON'T WATER YOUR LAWN IN AUGUST WHEN IT'S 113 DEGREES.
MY MESSAGE TO THE COURT IS IF BRIANNA CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR ME TO SPIN THIS OUT OF DISCRETIONARY, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE SOME ASSISTANCE FROM OTHER PRECINCTS, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL PAY FOR IT OURSELVES IF WE NEED TO.
I'D BE WILLING TO PAY FOR MY PORTION OF IT.
THE OTHERS, IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD, IF OUR FUNDS WILL QUALIFY.
BUT, SO, SO I'M CLEAR, IS IT FUNDING, LIKE WE'RE SENDING THE FUNDS SOMEWHERE FOR THEM TO OPERATE IT OR
IT'S, THINK OF IT AS LIKE A MARKETING AGENCY.
EFFECTIVELY THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE US A FEE TO DEVELOP A LOT OF GRAPHICS, A LOT OF INFORMATION AROUND WATER USAGE AND CONSERVATION THAT WE CAN VERY EASILY SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC TO HELP INFORM THE PUBLIC OF, OF THE NEED AND THE SITUATION.
UM, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS, AND MAYBE YOU DID, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST GETTING A AGREEMENT TOGETHER OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE ANYTIME WE, LIKE IN THE LIBRARIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW THE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT.
SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING, AS LONG AS THE LOSS REVENUE CAN BE SPENT FOR ANYTHING THAT BASICALLY THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND OTHERWISE.
AND WE CAN EVEN LOOK, I DON'T, IT'S NOT A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.
I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST THING.
I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK IF IT'S UNDER THE OTHER ARPA SINCE IT'S WATER CONSERVATION, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING UNDER THAT.
I CAN LOOK, I THINK THIS WOULD EASILY FALL INTO THE, UH, THE, THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT SET ASIDE FOR THE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I COUNTY PROJECTS.
I'LL LOOK AND SEE BECAUSE IT GOES WITH WATER CONSERVATION.
IF NOT THEN ARE YOU ALL GOOD WITH THE LOSS REVENUE PIECE? YES, I AM.
AND FOR THE COURT'S DISCLOSURE, THEY CHARGE $30,000 TO I BELIEVE BURNETT COUNTY, WHICH SHOULD BE IN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED.
RICH SENT AN EMAIL OUT, I DON'T KNOW, A MONTH AGO, SIX WEEKS AGO THAT HAD ALL OF THIS IN IT.
THERE'S A TEMPLATE MOU IN THERE AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A BREAKDOWN OF HOW THEY GOT TO THAT $30,000 CHARGE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST, I WANTED TO BRING IT UP AGAIN AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THIS DONE.
AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE LEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THESE ISSUES? YES SIR.
ONE OTHER ITEM WHILE WE'RE ON THE GENERAL BUDGET, UM, UPDATE.
[I.D. IT Projects & Budget Requests Update. (Kim Rivas / James Caywood / Judge Deen)]
I HAD FOLLOWED UP WITH IT JUST TO ENSURE I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN EVERYTHING, UM, JUST IN SERVICE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING.AND SO FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET, I ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD GO BACK AND PLEASE VERIFY ALL THEIR CONTRACT SERVICE LINES JUST FOR REGULAR IT AS WELL AS THE RADIO PROJECT TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THINGS WERE IN FLUX, UM, WHERE THINGS WERE AT.
AND SO WHEN THEY PROVIDED UPDATED NUMBERS, IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF 102,742.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS FOR, UM, WHETHER IT BE TOWER LEASES, UM, ALL THEIR OTHER SERVICE CONTRACTS.
SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE CONTRACT SERVICES.
SO I MEAN THAT'S, SO IS PART OF THIS SOME THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAD ALREADY MOVED ALL THEIR TOWER LEASES.
BUT I HAD ASKED LIKE, 'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THE TOWER LEASES, THEY HAVE INCREASES AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME AND I DON'T KNOW IF PART OF THE INCREASE MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT IF OF LOOKING AT THOSE OR POTENTIAL
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INCREASES, UM, DUE TO CHANGES.I KNOW IF THEY HANG ADDITIONAL, UM, EQUIPMENT ON IT LIKE WITH THE RADIO PROJECT, THEN I THINK SOME OF 'EM MAY INCREASE.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE JAMES COULD PROBABLY SPEAK ON MORE.
WELL, WELL PROBABLY JUST FROM THE ONE TOWER THAT'S BEEN ADDED.
I'M SURE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT, THAT AT MY PLACE.
PROBABLY SOME ADDITIONAL CONTRACT SERVICES FOR THAT.
AND UH, THAT THERE'S ONE LINE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET CONFIRMATION ON IF WE CAN REMOVE OUT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MOVED FROM THE EC TO.
IT IS AROUND 93,000 THAT WE'VE LEFT RIGHT NOW.
I'M TRYING TO GET CONFIRMATION IF WE, WE DO NEED THAT, THAT THAT WILL REDUCE THE, THAT THAT MUCH.
UH, THE REST OF THEM WERE LEASES.
'CAUSE THE LEASES ARE CHANGING WITH THE LOAD FOR THE NEW MICROWAVE TOWERS, UM, WITH THAT.
BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REDUCE ABOUT 93 FROM THIS TOTAL CARE SYSTEM.
SO, AND THEN ONE IS ALSO RAPID SEVEN 'CAUSE THE WHOLE THING IS BUDGETED.
THEY HAD APPLIED FOR, UM, UH, IS IT CYBERSECURITY GRANT THAT SHOULD HAVE, WELL, IT STARTED
WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S BEEN APPROVED OR NOT.
WHICH I BELIEVE THE TOTAL IS 82 3 80 $2,000.
I MEAN I GUESS WE CAN BUDGET IT.
HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED ALL OF THE FUNDS.
UM, SO WHAT DOESN'T GET DONE TODAY? I MEAN WE, WE, WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY, BUT WE, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE TODAY.
I MEAN WE NEED TO, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TODAY.
JUST BECAUSE WE NEED TO START ENTERING AND RECONCILING AND BALANCING AND THE HOPE WOULD BE, UM, THURSDAY IS THE PUBLIC MEETING OR YEAH.
UM, WOULD BE BASICALLY HAVING THE PUBLIC MEETING ON THE TAX RATE.
IF AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE NEED COURT DIRECTION, IT WOULD BE THAT TIME.
BUT REALLY I HOPE IT'S LIKE HERE'S WHAT YOUR FINAL BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.
'CAUSE WHEN WE ADOPT MONDAY, I MEAN THAT DOESN'T LEAVE TIME TO, SO WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH IS THAT WE NEED TO ADD THIS, THIS 109,000 FOR IT.
AND AGAIN, IF, AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY BETWEEN BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT THURSDAY WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
LIKE IF WE FIND OUT THAT THE GRANT IS APPROVED.
WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT WE HAVE ANY CHOICE THAT OTHER THAN TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL CONTRACT SERVICES FOR IT.
DEPARTMENT OF 109,001 OH 2 7 4 2 1 0 2 7 4 2.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
SECOND IS BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL NO FAVOR, CARRIE? I THOUGHT NO, IT WAS WEDNESDAY.
SORRY, CYNTHIA, DID YOU SEND THAT OUT WEDNESDAYS IN AN EMAIL? UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M CHECKING, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF YOU DON'T MIND SENDING AN EMAIL.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SO MANY EMAILS FLYING AROUND.
WILL YOU SEND AN EMAIL THAT CONFIRMS THE TIME FOR THE REMAINING SESSIONS? SO WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING MONDAY AND THAT'S IT.
SO WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 20.
THE HOPE WOULD BE WE WOULD BE, WELL HOLD ON.
I THOUGHT I HEARD THURSDAY IN THERE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I SPOKE UP.
SO WE HAVE WEDNESDAY THE 18TH.
AT WHAT TIME IS IT? IN THE MORNING? IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN ON THE 23RD, COMMISSIONER COURT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO FINALIZE WE'RE WE'RE DONE.
SO THE THE OPEN ITEMS WE STILL HAVE WOULD BE IF WE'RE GONNA REVISIT SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WHAT OTHER ITEMS? I MEAN WE'VE, WE'VE GOT SOME MORE LIFTING TO DO.
YEAH, I MEAN I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT IF WE ARE WANTING, I MEAN WHETHER WE KEEP GOING NOW OR IF WE RECESS AND COME BACK AT SOME POINT TOMORROW.
UM, OR WE SET AN AGENDA FOR LIKE MONDAY, TOMORROW.
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IF WE GET AFTER IT EARLY, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.YEAH, I GOT, WELL I GOT RTC SO HE'S GOT STUFF IN THE MORNING.
SO WE COULD SET SOMETHING FOR EARLY.
DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT EARLIER IN THE WEEK, NEXT WEEK.
BUT WE, WHAT ELSE ELSE WE WELL NO, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
WHAT, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE GOT? NO, BECKY'S GONE.
SO YEAH, WE NEED WE EMPLOYEES DONE.
WHAT ELSE? WE YOU'RE NOT YEAH, BECKY AND YOU'RE GOING IN THE MORNING TO CALL.
WHAT ELSE DO, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? ANYTHING ELSE? PRECINCT? WELL THOSE, THOSE ARE ITEMS, THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST, WE FILL IN THE BLANK ITEMS I THINK, AREN'T THEY? YEAH.
SO I THINK KIM WAS GONNA GO OVER THE CAP, NON CAP.
WHAT I WILL DO, UM, IS I NEED TO SEND YOU ALL AN UPDATE WITH YOUR, THE UPDATED ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION FOR YOUR FUNDS.
AND THEN I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING CAPPED ON CAP THAT KIM HAS ON HER LIST IS CORRECT.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME THAT SAY NEED PRICE, SO I CAN SEND YOU ALL THOSE.
I MEAN I NEED TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER, BUT, AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT OUTSIDE OF COURT.
BUT HER LIST WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
AS FAR AS MY CONCERNED, THE, THE PRICE WE CAN FILL IN EASILY.
YOU KNOW, NOW, NOW, WELL WE CAN WORK OUTSIDE OF COURT FOR THAT.
DID THEY, THERE'S OTHERS THAT ARE IT RELATED, UH, DOWN HERE UNDER CONTRACT SERVICES? WHAT? EVERYTHING WE FINISH THOSE.
THEY'RE IN YELLOW IS THE REASON I SAID THAT.
THEY WERE HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS SHEET TODAY.
THE ONE THAT SAYS PRECINCT CAP, NON CAP.
THOSE, THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, UH, PRINTER LEASES AND LOOKS LIKE ADOBE PRO.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DID YOU GET AMOUNTS FOR THE PRINTER LEASES FOR THEM? I DON'T HAVE THAT.
I FEEL LIKE I THINK INCREASE, RIGHT? MAYBE.
I I'VE UPPED YOUR GUYS' PRINTER LEASES FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS CHANGED AND SO ALL OF THAT, I MEAN, I'M GONNA SEND YOU GUYS LINE FOR LINE YOUR ENTIRE BUDGET.
NO, THIS IS, THEY'RE ALL SMALL AMOUNTS IS WHAT I'M GETTING AROUND TO, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO PRECINCT ONES, UM, UBO LEASE IS $110 A MONTH.
IS THIS INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OR IS THIS INFORMATION YOU'RE GONNA SUPPLY TO US? WHAT THE SMALL AMOUNTS FOR THE PRINTERS? YEAH.
I MEAN IS THIS INFORMATION WE NEED TO TAKE BACK AND INCLUDE IN SOMETHING OR IS THIS JUST, JUST INFORMATION? IT, IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR, YOUR PRINT, BUT I HAD SENT THAT TO YOU AND THE PRECINCT.
SO I HAVE INCREASED YOUR GUYS' LINE FOR THOSE.
I JUST NEED TO ALL YOUR CAT ON CAT, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU ALL AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY.
WELL, I MEAN WE CAN DO THAT JUST, THERE'S JUST ONE DEAL FOR GEORGE THERE AND THEN SEVERAL WON'T BE TILL SOMETIME FRIDAY.
SO DO Y'ALL WANNA GO THROUGH THESE AND APPROVE? WE NEED TO APPROVE THEM? YES.
I DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED TO APPROVE.
I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ALL OF THESE.
I'LL SECOND MOTION AS STATED ON HERE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALL, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
A THAT'S ALL IT REQUEST OR WHAT IS THAT'S THE, YES.
AND WHATEVER ELSE WE JUST, WE, UH, HAVE NOT APPROVED.
[I.A. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen) (Part 3 of 3)]
A.WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE, UH, JUVENILE BUDGET.
SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND I, MY RECOLLECTION JUDGE, WAS THAT WE'VE GIVEN A NUMBER THERE AND THAT THE, THE INCREASES WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE 4% IN SALARY THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED.
AND, UH, IN, IN THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT THERE.
AND, AND, UH, EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT JUST GOT HIRED OR EVEN THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GET A 4% INCREASE OVER EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE HIRED A MONTH AGO OR TWO MONTHS AGO.
AND THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT THEY
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BECAUSE UNDER THE JUVENILE BOARD, BRIANNA, YOU GOT RIGHT ONE NUMBER THEN UNDER 1 91 WE'VE GOT, RIGHT.
SO THERE'S, IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE 6% JUST IN CASE THE COUNTY CAME BACK AND GAVE SOMETHING ABOVE THAT.
AND SO AS BECKY HAS MENTIONED, THE PERSONNEL CHANGE FORMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.
THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN TURNED IN.
BUT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND NOW REDUCE IT BECAUSE JUVENILE'S BUDGET STARTED SEPTEMBER 1ST AND WE HAVE TO REPORT WHAT THE COUNTY FUNDED PORTION OF JUVENILE PROBATION IS.
AND ALL OF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM.
SO THE BOARD BASICALLY JUST DID IT OF IT'S WHATEVER THE COUNTY'S GETTING THAT WAS JUST A CUSHION.
SO AGAIN, AS I'VE EXPLAINED HOW THOSE BUDGETS WORK AS WE DO A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT TRANSFER WON'T BE AS MUCH AS WHAT IS BUDGETED.
SO IN TRANSLATION, THE 1 6 9 8 4 11 IS THE SET NUMBER FOR THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT AND THEN 1 91 UNDER THE, UH, JJEP, THAT NUMBER IS SET AT 5 66.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
THOSE NUMBERS WE ALREADY APPROVE 500,000 OR NO.
SO WHAT I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR GUYS' NUMBERS.
UM, UNDER THAT OPERATING SECTION, I NOTED THAT, OR 800, THE J-J-A-E-P WENT DOWN, JUVENILE WENT UP SLIGHTLY.
WE MOVED THE THRIFT MART LEASE.
SO I THINK THE NET INCREASE IS, I WANNA SAY 102,000, WHICH I MEAN THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY FUNDED PORTION OF JUVENILE PROBATION BECAUSE OF, I MEAN, JUST INCREASES JUST AS WE HAVE INCREASES WITH THE JAIL, THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTERS WHERE YOU HAVE AGREEMENTS, THOSE ALL HAVE INCREASED.
SO THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE FOR THAT OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES THAT THE, UM, JUVENILES RECEIVED WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED A WEEK OR SO AGO FROM THE, FROM Y'ALL, FROM THE JUDGE BEING AT THE MEETING? YES.
THOSE, THOSE ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO UNDER THAT, OPERATING THAT TRANSFER, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
SO IT'S JUST THE NET CHANGE IN THE TRANSFER FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PRIOR YEAR? WELL, TWO, TWO THINGS.
ONE, SO IT'S IN THE BUDGET ALREADY.
I'VE ALREADY ENTERED, ENTERED IN.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA ADD TO OUR RIGHT.
IT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN ALREADY IN THE SECOND.
THE SECOND THING IS, I WANNA GO BACK TO THAT COMMENT ON THE, UH, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT 4% IN THE BOARD MEETING FOR JUVENILE AND THERE WAS NO DISSENSION THERE BEEN UNDERSTOOD TO TAKE WHAT WE GET SO THEY CORRECT.
AND THAT, AND THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
OH, SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT STUCK AT SIX.
I MEAN IT'S, IT IS JUST I'M BUDGET, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY TURNED IN THE PERSONNEL CHANGE FORMS AND THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING THE 4%, BUT WE JUST NEED TO APPROVE THESE.
THE FACT THAT IT'S ALREADY YES, BECAUSE THE BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
THIS IS JUST PROVIDING THE, THE REVENUE TO FUND THOSE BUDGETS.
I WOULD ASK FOR PROMOTION THEN, OR ASK FOR A SECOND.
WE, WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE.
IT'S ALREADY, WELL, IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.
COMMISSIONER FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER HILL HAS MADE THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE EITHER TO APPROVE IT OR TO NOT APPROVE IT AND SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE HERE AT THE, AT THE LAST MINUTE WITH THIS, WITH THIS BUDGET ITEM, BUT, UH, AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT AND BEEN BEATEN IT TO DEATH, BUT THE J-J-A-E-P IS AN ISSUE FOR, FOR QUITE A FEW OF US, UH, BECAUSE OF THE COST PER STUDENT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THERE'S NO EITHER.
UH, JUST TO ECHO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I, I THINK THAT'S THE CONSENSUS HERE.
UM, AND WE ARE, AND BEING ON THAT BOARD, I JUST WANT TO, I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT TO THIS, THAT, UM, WE DID GO THROUGH THOSE LINE ITEMS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT ALSO, UM, THIS IS A CHALLENGE IN THE SITUATION BEING FORCED ON US THAT, UH, WE'RE HAVING TO DO THIS AND TAKING KIDS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THEM NOW WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS ON US TO PROVIDE THAT EDUCATION AND THAT, THAT THAT SYSTEM TO HOPEFULLY MAKE, MAKE 'EM BETTER, NOT WORSE.
AND IT'S A BALANCE OF THIS AND GOING THROUGH THAT BUDGET, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT CUTTING THAT DOWN SOME IN THE MEETING.
AND, UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE THERE'S SOME RELIEF AND IF NOT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, AND TO GO WITH, WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, WALDEN WAS, IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T VOTE IN SUPPORT OF IT
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AND IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? IT'S A HARD PILL.
BECKY, WHAT ELSE WE, WE CAN, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT VIOLATION IS? ARE WE GONNA GET A NAUGHTY LETTER FROM THE AG OR, OR WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I THINK WE RECEIVED BY THE I THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.
YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT THE ID TO THE COUNTY.
OH, AND THAT WAS AND WHEN, AND THEN IN THAT WE OUGHT TO SUE THE ISDS FOR FORCING THIS HONOR.
OKAY, JUST GOING THROUGH THE, UM, UNDER ITEM A ON DISCUSSING APPROVED ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND 50 AND PRECINCT ONE.
PRECINCT FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET.
ITEM G ON, DISCUSS AND VOTE ON SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND PROJECTS.
ANY UPDATES? BRIANNA, ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO? I THINK WE COVERED THAT ONE.
I THINK BUILDING AND GROUNDS, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THIS, JUST MAKING SURE.
ITEM E ON BUILDING AND GROUNDS PROJECTS, BUDGET REQUESTS.
[I.C. Discuss/Vote on Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) (Part 2 of 2)]
BACK TO SHERIFF'S.SHERIFF, CAN YOU COME UP, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WHERE WE ARE ON THE GENERAL FUND? SO IF WE, UH, AFTER THAT, THOSE ACTIONS, OKAY.
SO IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T VOTE ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT, THEN THEY JUST GET TO KEEP THE 4% COLA, IS THAT RIGHT? 10 RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND I WOULD, IF, IF WE CAN'T DO THE, THE SALARY, I, I WOULD REINSTATE MY REQUEST FOR THE PATROL SLOTS AND THE DISPATCHER SLOTS FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE.
WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT AGAIN? UH, SHERIFF PAPIER ON THAT NUMBER IS 200 AND WELL, THE, THE 4% CALL, IT WAS ABOUT 585,000.
UM, THE PAY SCALE, THE, THE SECOND ONE THAT WE PRESENTED WAS ABOUT $293,207 MORE THAN WHAT THE COLA WAS.
SO THE NET INCREASE OF THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT ALMOST 300,000.
AND I THINK WHERE COMMISSIONER HALE WAS EARLIER THAT YEAH.
THE NUMBERS WERE A LOT MORE THAN THAT WITH THE THREE DISPATCHERS AND THE THREE PATROL FOLKS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WENT WITH THEM.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIND MY SHEET.
SO HE, THE SHERIFF WANTS WHAT NOW? IF WE DON'T DO WELL, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, IT'D BE FOR ABOUT FIVE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, OR I'VE GOT SIX, SIX MORE EMPLOYEE, SIX ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES PLUS ALL CAP.
THAT ONE, THAT'S TWO SIDED WITH GREEN DEAL ON.
IT'S THESE THREE HERE WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE BENEFITS.
THAT'S THE TOTAL PER ON THE CONTROL DISPATCHER.
KIDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE, AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT HAVE A MOTION OR A SECOND.
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I BELIEVE WE APPROVE THE DISPATCH, THE THREE DISPATCHERS AND, AND HOW MANY DEPUTIES OR THREE MORE? THREE MORE DEPUTIES AND THE, AND ALL, AND ALL THE CANDY THAT GOES WITH IT.SO 1, 2, 3, 3 30 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SIX 30 YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE RAISES.
SO, SO WE'LL, UH, THAT'S MY MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.
JUST WE, WHAT, I'M GONNA SECOND THIS JUST TO GET US TO FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, WHAT IS, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT AGAIN ON THIS MOTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? WE DON'T HAVE AN AMOUNT.
IT'S, IT'S SIX POSITIONS PLUS THE, UH, I THINK MR. HALE'S ABOUT TO GET IT VEHICLES FOR THE FIGURED OUT THREE BEFORE THE VEHICLES AND THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN IF YOU ADD UP THE TOTAL COST FOR THE THREE PATROL AND THE THREE DISPATCH, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $620,000 ON TOP OF THE 5 85, WHICH PUTS US AT 1.2 BEFORE THE EQUIPMENT AND OTHER NECESSARY ITEMS THAT THE, THOSE POSITIONS NEED.
UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING OR OVERSTATING SOMETHING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING DON'T WANNA BE DONE 1.2 MILLION INCLUDES COLA, IT INCLUDES THAT 5 85 YEP.
BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CAP AND NON CAP.
OKAY, BECAUSE THAT COULD THAT, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN APPROVING ADDITIONAL CARS AND KITS.
YOU GOT ANOTHER TWO 50 THAT IS PROBABLY PRETTY EASY.
IF, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO USE THE STEP IN GRADE PROGRAM THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR PLUS 4% COLA.
SO, SO OUR DEPUTIES, OUR PATROL WHO'S HERE, THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE LAST YEAR.
THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR STEPPING GRADE RAISE FROM LAST YEAR PLUS 4% IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2% ON THE CURRENT SCALE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 6%.
IF SOMEONE WAS A DEPUTY LAST YEAR YES SIR.
THEY GET THERE TWO AND THEREFORE, SO THEY GET ABOUT 6% RAISE.
COMMISSIONER, I WOULD SUPPORT YOUR MOTION IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND ABOUT $1.2 MILLION IN CUTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WELL, THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE TO GET IT.
THERE'S NOT, THERE'S TWO PLACES YOU CAN MAKE CUTS ON SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT OF A FUND BALANCE.
WELL, WHO ARE WE GOING TO CUT? I'M, I'M JUST ASKING.
I'M, I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S ONE OPTION.
I'M NOT AGREEING TO CUT ANYTHING.
WELL, I'M NOT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT I, IF IF IF IT, IF IF YOU WERE TO TO HAVE THOSE, THEN I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING.
WELL, IT'D COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
AND THE OTHER OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER HAD A NET OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT OR THE AS WAS APPROXIMATELY 800, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO, SO WE HAVE REALLY THREE OPTIONS AT PLAY, DO NOTHING AND OUR CURRENT PEOPLE GET 6%, HIRE THE NEW PEOPLE AND SPEND AN ADDITIONAL 1.2 PLUS EQUIPMENT OR PAY OUR EXISTING PEOPLE MORE THAN THE 4% AND THE 2%, WHICH IS WHAT THE SHERIFF AND HIS CREW SAID WAS THEIR PREFERENCE.
WELL, NOT ALL WOULD GET THAT, THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT.
SOME WOULD GET MORE, SOME WOULD GET LESS.
IT JUST FOR THE, AND JUSTING IT INTO THE NEW SCALE.
SO IN THE NEW SCALE, SOME PEOPLE WOULD GET LESS THAN IF WE DID NOTHING.
YEAH, THERE'S, UH, PERCENTAGES ON THE RIGHT ON THIS.
ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, LET'S VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT WE ALREADY GOT AND SO WE CAN MOVE ON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL MY PAPER.
ALL RIGHT SHERIFF, IF YOU GOT WHAT YOU GOT.
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IT.DO WE, TO YOUR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE A NUMBER WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY? WE DON'T.
CAN WE, UH, NOT TO, NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO HERE.
WITH REGARD TO THE, SO SALARIES, UM, IF WE REVISIT THIS OR, OR ON WEDNESDAY? CAN'T DO IT.
I'M HERE AND I THE BALANCE AUDIT AS THEY WERE AT THE LAST, BUT BY US DOING NOTHING, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GETTING NOTHING.
NO, THEY'RE GETTING 4% PLUS THE STEPPING GRADE SIX.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY TO ADJOURN.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
RECORD SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 5 23.