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[Call to Order]

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WE ARE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, UH, THE RECORDS SHOW IT'S 1 0 1, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO, UH, FOR THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPECIAL AGENDA FOR TUESDAY, MARCH TO 11TH 2025 AT, UH, FOR MOVE

[Items I.A. & I.B.]

TO ITEM ONE.

I WANNA DISCUSSED, CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING.

UH, DISCUSS, APPROVE, ADOPT THE COG NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT'S CLEAN FLEET POLICY.

UH, CYNTHIA EXPLAINED, AND I GUESS GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AS TO THE OBJECTIVE AND WHY WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THIS.

I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE LAST ONE.

WHY WE ASK THESE COMMISSIONERS HERE.

SO THERE, IT'S, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THE REASON FOR THIS SPECIAL SESSION IS, UM, DUE TO, UH, UPCOMING CALLER PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, THE DEADLINES ARE SO CLOSE BY, WE BUMPED INTO A LITTLE, UH, ROCK ON THE ROAD AND WE NOTICED THAT THE COUNTY HAD NOT ADOPTED THE POLICIES THAT ARE PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO PROCEED IN SOME OF THESE CALLER PROJECTS.

AND SO WHEN WE WENT DOWN TO READ THE POLICIES, UM, IT SAID THAT IT HAD TO BE ADOPTED BY THE COURT AS A WHOLE.

IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT JUDGE DEAN COULD SIGN, UM, AS COUNTY JUDGE.

SO I DID SEND OUT THE POLICIES PRIOR TO THIS AND AN EXPLANATION OF THE COFFER PROJECTS THAT WERE COMING UP.

AND SO, UM, I ASKED SAVANNAH NANCE, UH, FROM COG TO COME TO PRESENT, DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON WHAT THESE POLICIES CONTAIN AND HOW THESE WILL, UM, HELP THE COUNTY IN UPCOMING, UH, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS WE ARE HELPING AIR QUALITY, UM, IN PARKER COUNTY AS WELL.

SO I WILL ALLOW SAVANNAH FROM, UM, COG PRESENT.

IT'LL BE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND THEN I'LL, UM, HAVE YOU, UH, ASK AWAY, UM, ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SHE IS THE, UH, BRAIN TO THIS PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING.

AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD.

UH, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YEAH, JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS SAVANNAH NANCE.

I'M A AIR QUALITY PLANNER AT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

UM, ARE YOU GUYS ABLE TO SEE THE SLIDES THAT I'M SHARING? WE DO NOW.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION.

FIRST, JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR AGREEING TO COME OUT HERE TO CONSIDER THIS.

UM, BUT I WANNA START OFF BY JUST GIVING A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THIS POLICY IS AND WHY IT CAME ABOUT.

SO I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

WE'RE THE REGIONAL PLANNING AGENCY FOR THE 16 COUNTIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, MEANING WE DO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FOR THE CORE COUNTIES, THE 12 ONES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN BLACK.

AND THEN WHAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IS THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED AS A CLEAN CITIES COALITION.

SO THAT'S A DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY PARTNERSHIP THAT'S FOCUSED ON REDUCING PETROLEUM USAGE TO INCREASE OUR DOMESTIC SECURITY.

SO REALLY ALL THINGS ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, PROPANE, NATURAL GAS, UM, ALSO TRYING TO DO IDLE REDUCTION EFFORTS OR VEHICLE MILES, TRAVEL REDUCTION EFFORTS.

A LOT OF THAT FALLS WITHIN US.

SO WE WORK A LOT WITH OUR LOCAL FLEETS AND WE HAVE AN ENTIRE TEAM THAT'S DEDICATED TO THAT.

SO I OVERSEE THE FOCUS AREAS THAT ARE VEHICLES AND, AND ENERGY AND RESILIENCY IS PART OF THAT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER AREA OF OUR TEAM THAT'S FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND BUILD OUT.

SO WHERE YOU WOULD REFUEL THE VEHICLES.

UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS OVER AT WEATHERFORD COLLEGE, UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THEM THAT WORKED ON THAT.

SO ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ON THIS CLEAN CITIES COALITION PARTNERSHIP IS BECAUSE OF OUR NON-ATTAINMENT ISSUES.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THERE ARE 10 COUNTIES WITHIN OUR REGION THAT ARE IN NON-ATTAINMENT, MEANING THEY DO NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR GROUND LEVEL OZONE.

SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY SETS WHAT'S CALLED A NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR QUALITY STANDARD, OR N, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY HOW MUCH OF A CERTAIN POLLUTANT CAN BE PRESENT BEFORE IT CAUSES HARM TO HUMAN HEALTH.

AND SO THE 10 COUNTIES THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE BROWNISH WITH THE DOTS ARE IN NON-ATTAINMENT FOR GROUND LEVEL OZONE.

AND WE HAVE BEEN SINCE THE

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NINETIES.

UM, SO THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE.

AND THEN TARRANT AND DALLAS COUNTY ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE DESIGNATED NON-ATTAINMENT FOR PM 2.5, WHICH IS PARTICULATE MATTER 2.5.

SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THE AIR QUALITY ISSUES.

UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU GUYS HOW OUR GROUND LEVEL OZONE HAS BEEN, UM, LOOKING RECENTLY.

SO THIS CHART SHOWS THE PARTS PER BILLION OF GROUND LEVEL OZONE SINCE THE 1999.

SO ALL THE WAY ON THE FAR LEFT IS 1999 AND THEN 2022 TO 2024 IS THE FURTHEST RIGHT NUMBER.

AND WHAT I REALLY WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE RED LINE AND SHOWING HOW THAT HAS PRETTY CONSISTENTLY BEEN GOING DOWN.

SO THAT IS OUR DESIGN VALUE, WHICH MEANS THAT IS ON AVERAGE ACROSS THE REGION, UM, WHAT OUR LEVEL IS AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO ARE THE DOTTED LINES THAT ARE ON THERE.

SO THE GREEN LINE IS A 1997 STANDARD, SO THAT WAS 85 PARTS PER BILLION.

AND WE HAVE HISTORICALLY MET THAT SINCE, UH, 2010 ISH.

BUT THE EPA PERIODICALLY LOOKS AT THE LATEST SCIENCE AND THEN THEY WILL REVISE THE STANDARDS AND THEY HAVE LOWERED IT TWICE SINCE THEN.

SO THEY LOWERED IT IN 2008 AND THEY LOWERED IT IN 2015.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT MEETING THE 2008 STANDARD OR THE 2015 STANDARD.

AND THE REASON THAT THIS APPLIES TO TRANSPORTATION AND VEHICLES IS BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT FORMS GROUND LEVEL OZONE IN OUR REGION IS SOMETHING CALLED VOCS OR VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS.

AND IT'S SOMETHING CALLED NOX OR OXIDES OF NITROGEN.

SO WHEN THOSE TWO COMBINE IN THE PRESENCE OF SUNLIGHT AND HEAT, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF SUNLIGHT AND HEAT IN TEXAS, UM, THAT'S HOW GROUND LEVEL OZONE IS FORMED.

IT'S NOT DIRECTLY PRODUCED.

AND VEHICLES PRODUCE ALMOST TWO THIRDS ON AND OFF-ROAD VEHICLES OF THE KNOCKS IN OUR REGION.

SO THAT'S CALLED A PRECURSOR.

SO THE MAIN THING THAT WE TRY TO FOCUS ON IS TRYING TO REDUCE THE KNOCKS THAT IS COMING OUT OF VEHICLES.

SO THAT CAN BE FROM ADOPTING ANTI-IDLING INITIATIVES.

THAT CAN BE FROM REPLACING LIKE YOU HAVE A 1997 DIESEL VEHICLE, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY EMISSIONS CONTROL.

AND SO GETTING A 2020 OR KIND OF TURNING THAT OVER MORE FREQUENTLY, THAT HELPS AIR QUALITY.

THAT CAN ALSO BE ALTERNATIVE FUELS.

SO PROPANE NATURAL GAS, THOSE HAVE LOWER NO EMISSIONS OR EVEN ZERO EMISSION.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA GIVE THAT BACKGROUND OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN SEE THE RED LINE HAS BEEN TRENDING UP OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK MORE WITH THE STATE TO UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE UM, THERE'S THE OBVIOUS POPULATION GROWTH AND ECONOMIC GROWTH, WHICH OF COURSE IS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, DURING COVID, WHENEVER EVERYONE WAS AT HOME AND THERE WAS A LOT LESS TRAFFIC, WE DID NOT SEE THE DROP IN GROUND LEVEL OZONE LEVELS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING.

WE WERE EXPECTING TO SEE MORE.

AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INSTALLATION OF MONITORS GOING ON TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SCIENCE TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHY WE AREN'T MEETING THESE STANDARDS.

'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR A LONG TIME AND STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MEET THEM.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, AS WE TRY TO HELP THE REGION REACH THESE STANDARDS, BACK IN 2005, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL ADOPTED THE FIRST VERSION OF THE CLEAN VE CLEAN FLEET VEHICLE POLICY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU ALL TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO IN 2014 THERE WAS A REVISED VERSION OF THAT POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S WITH YOU TODAY.

AND IT WAS REVISED JUST BASED ON SOME LATER, UM, ADVISEMENT FROM FLEETS.

WE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A WORKING GROUP AND MET WITH THEM ON AND OFF FOR ABOUT A YEAR TO KIND OF GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHAT PARTS OF THE POLICY NEED TO BE CHANGED.

SO WHENEVER YOU REVIEW THE POLICY, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF AS PRACTICABLE.

UM, SO THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THAT WORKING GROUP AND THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE FLEETS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OPERATIONS ARE CRITICAL AND THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY BE SUBJECT TO AN IDLING POLICY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOL BUSES, THOSE, UM, THEY NEED TO BE WARMED UP AND OR COOLED DOWN FOR THE COMFORT OF STUDENTS.

AND SO IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO EXPECT THEM TO NOT IDLE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.

SO WE DID OUR BEST TO WRITE THIS IN A WAY THAT IT COULD BE APPLICABLE TO EVERY SINGLE OPERATION THAT IT COULD, BUT ALSO GIVE FLEETS THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CRITICAL OPERATIONS CONTINUE AS NORMAL.

UM, SO TO DATE WE HAVE 90 ENTITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE CLEAN FLEET POLICY WITHIN THE NON-ATTAINMENT AREA.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CLEAN

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FLEET POLICY IS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS.

UM, AND THEN GIVE YOU ALL SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR THINGS TO TRY TO PURSUE THROUGH THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN ALSO HELP OUR REGION TRY TO ACHIEVE THE NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR QUALITY STANDARDS OR NEXT.

SO JUST A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE POLICY.

SO FOR THE POLICY, I WILL SAY ANYTIME YOU REDUCE EMISSIONS, IF FUEL CONSUMPTION, YOU'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS NICE.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT VEHICLE.

YOU ALSO, LIKE I MENTIONED, WOULD HELP WITH ACHIEVING THE NEXTS.

WHEN YOU ADOPT A CLEAN PLEA POLICY, IT MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE FOR RECOGNITION FOR THE DALLAS FORT WORTH CLEAN CITIES FLEET RECOGNITION AWARDS THAT WE DO ANNUALLY.

IT ALSO IS PART OF THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLANS POLICY BUNDLE INITIATIVE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, AS PART OF THE POLICY BUNDLE, THE MORE OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES THAT YOU ADOPT, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION CREDITS TO OFFSET LOCAL MATCH FOR PROJECTS.

SO IT IS INCLUDED IN THAT.

AND THEN THE MAIN THING THAT CYNTHIA WANTED TO HAVE YOU ALL COME TOGETHER TODAY FOR IS IT DOES MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR CLEAN VEHICLE FUNDING THAT'S BEING ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE RTC.

SO IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW TO ADOPT, UM, YOU HAVE THE TEMPLATE IN FRONT OF YOU.

UH, SO FIRST YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO SIGN THE TEMPLATE.

THERE IS A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL THAT KIND OF GIVES SOME IDEAS FOR HOW TO MEET SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN THERE'S ONE, UH, FOUR SECTIONS TO THE POLICY.

AND ONE OF THE SECTIONS OF THESE POLICIES IS TO ADOPT ALSO AN IDLE REDUCTION POLICY.

AND THAT IDLE REDUCTION POLICY, IT CAN EITHER BE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ONE, YOU CAN JUST SUBMIT WHAT YOU HAVE AND WE'LL CONSIDER IT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T, WE HAVE ALSO A SAMPLE POLICY.

BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST A SAMPLE POLICY I TRIED.

SO IF YOU NEED TO EDIT THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT MORE APPLICABLE TO YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR THE IDLE REDUCTION POLICY, THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE.

WE REALLY JUST MADE THE IDLE REDUCTION POLICY AS A TEMPLATE FOR FLEETS THAT MAYBE DON'T ALREADY HAVE ONE.

WHAT IS CONSIDERED A CLEAN VEHICLE? UH, SURE.

SO IT'S CALLED THE CLEAN FLEET POLICY, AND IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE COMPREHENSIVE.

SO IT'S NOT A MANDATE TO PURCHASE ANY CERTAIN TYPE OF VEHICLE.

WHAT IT IS, IS A COMMITMENT THAT YOU WILL MAKE YOUR BEST EFFORT TO PICK THE LOWEST EMITTING VEHICLE FOR THE OPERATION THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO.

SO IF THERE'S FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT YOU CAN'T PURCHASE A CERTAIN VEHICLE IF THERE ISN'T INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE, SO YOU CAN'T REFUEL A VEHICLE, THEN WHATEVER THE REASON IS, UM, WE JUST WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER GETTING THE LOWEST EMITTING VEHICLE.

SO A CLEAN VEHICLE IS ANYTHING THAT EMITS LESS THAN WHAT YOU'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU'RE REPLACING A 1997 DIESEL WITH A 2023 DIESEL, THAT'S STILL GONNA BE LOWER EMITTING.

IF YOU'RE REPLACING A GASOLINE VEHICLE THAT'S OLDER WITH A MORE FUEL EFFICIENT VERSION, MAYBE A HYBRID, THAT'S STILL GONNA BE LOWER EMITTING.

AND THEN IT CAN ALSO COUNT FOR PROPANE NATURAL GAS OR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES.

SO IT'S JUST WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOUR OPERATIONS THAT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKS FOR YOUR GUYS.

SO, BUT WE'RE NOT, UH, IF WE AGREE TO THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ALL OF OUR VEHICLES.

OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.

UM, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE VERY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO DO IS TO OPERATE, UM, THE VEHICLE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND THEN RETIRE IT EVENTUALLY.

SO JUST AS YOU'RE REPLACING THINGS AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT PURCHASING REPLACEMENTS, WE ASK THAT YOU REALLY CONSIDER AND LOOK AT, BASED ON THE OPERATIONS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW YOU COULD GET THAT WOULD MAYBE BE CLEANER? SO ANY NEW VEHICLE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CLEAN VEHICLE.

UH, IT WOULD BE CLEANER, BUT IF YOUR OPERATION CLEANER THAN THE OLD ONE.

YES.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR YOU ALL TO ADOPT THIS POLICY TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDING IS BECAUSE THE FUNDING, THE LIMITATIONS VARY, BUT WE CAN DO CONVENTIONAL FUEL, SO DIESEL OR GASOLINE REPLACEMENTS AS WELL.

SO WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THE TURNOVER OF THOSE OLDER, OLDER VEHICLES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND YOU, IS THERE AN APPLICATION COST TO THE COUNTY TO APPLY FOR THIS? THE, AN APPLICATION COST? DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY COST TO THE COUNTY TO DO THIS? NOPE.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SECOND, I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE.

UH, WHAT WERE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IF WE DO DO THIS? WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL FOR AVAILABLE FUNDS, UM, AND, AND ANY HOOPS TO GET THROUGH OR HOW DO WE GET TO THAT POINT

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OR THAT THRESHOLD? CAN I, CAN I ADD TO THAT RESTRICTIONS? YES.

LIKE ARE THERE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE OR ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS AS I THINK JUDGE IS ASKING, AND AT THE SAME TIME, ARE THERE PENALTIES IF WE DON'T MEET A CERTAIN HURDLE OR THRESHOLD? NO.

SO THERE ARE NO PEN, SO NO TO THE PENALTIES FOR FUNDING.

I'M GOING TO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THIS SLIDE.

WE SAY ADDITIONAL, I'M NOT SURE WE WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, ARE WE? NO, SIR.

SO, OKAY.

SO, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THIS MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING, UM, BUT THERE IS NO MANDATE TO REPLACE ANYTHING AT A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.

UM, OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE COST TO THE COUNTY FOR ADOPTING THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY US ANYTHING.

AND BECAUSE YOU, TO YOUR POINT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY REPLACE YOUR FLEET.

IT JUST PUTS US IN THE POOL TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS.

UM, YES.

OKAY.

IT JUST MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE.

AND WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE, THE POTENTIAL FOR FUNDS OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SURE.

SO RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE EPA, WE HAVE SOME FUNDING THROUGH OUR NORTH TEXAS DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION CULVER PROJECT.

SO THIS IS THE MAIN ONE THAT CYNTHIA WANTED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR.

AND THAT DEADLINE IS THE END OF THIS WEEK.

HOWEVER, IF WE DO NOT, UM, AWARD ALL FUNDING, WE DO REOPEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND THERE'S 1 MILLION AVAILABLE TO REPLACE EXISTING MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY DIESEL POWERED EQUIPMENT WITH LOWER EMITTING VERSIONS.

SO THAT CAN BE A NEWER OR IT CAN BE AN ALTERNATIVE FUEL.

AND I HAVE, UM, WORKED WITH CYNTHIA AND LOOKED AT SOME OF YOUR FLEETS AND THERE ARE SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE MOST LIKELY.

SO SHE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS OPPORTUNITY DIDN'T PASS YOU BY, BUT TO APPLY FOR THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO UM, ADOPT THIS POLICY AND BY FRIDAY, YES.

BUT THIS MILLION, IS THAT JUST FOR OUR COUNTY? IS THIS FOR THE WHOLE AREA? IT IS FOR THE WHOLE AREA, BUT I WILL SAY WE REGULARLY PROVIDE FUNDING.

THIS IS AN ONGOING THING.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CHART TO THE LEFT IS SINCE 2022, WE'VE AWARDED ALMOST 60 MILLION IN VARIOUS FUNDING ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR ALL SORTS OF PROJECTS.

AND THAT IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE EQUIPMENT, THAT IS FOR HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES, LIGHT DUTIES AND LOCOMOTIVES.

SO WE DO ALL SORTS OF ADMINISTRATION FOR CLEANER VEHICLES AND WE HAVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

THIS IS OD CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? SURE.

ON THERE IT SAYS 2006 TO 2022.

MM-HMM .

SO IS THAT 60 MILLION, IS THAT THAT TIMEFRAME? OR IS THAT SINCE 2022? IT IS THAT TIMEFRAME.

OH, SORRY.

I MIGHT HAVE SAID IT THE WRONG WAY.

I, I THOUGHT I HEARD SINCE SIX.

SO IN BETWEEN 2006 AND 2022, WE ADMINISTERED 58 MILLION.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE HAD A 2023 AND 2024 CALL FOR PROJECTS THAT WE AWARDED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

MM-HMM .

THEY'RE THOSE, THIS TAKES A LONG TIME TO BE HONEST, TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET.

SO WE'VE PROBABLY BROKEN 60 MILLION AT THIS POINT.

AND THEN ACTUALLY WE WILL BE MAKING ANOTHER 60 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR LATER THIS SPRING JUST FOR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES.

AND THIS WAS SOME ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE GOT.

SO IT'S LIMITED TO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES.

BUT THE MAIN POINT I WANNA GET ACROSS IS THIS IS A REGULAR THING THAT WE DO.

SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET THIS 1 MILLION, THERE'LL BE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO ADOPTING THIS POLICY WOULD MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE FOR THEM.

OKAY.

THIS IS A LOADED QUESTION, BUT WAS THIS PRESENTED TO THE RTC? UM, SO I KNOW THAT WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS IS WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT WE MAY BE MISSING? OR HOW DO WE TAP INTO THESE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES? 'CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A GRANT WRITER RIGHT THERE, AND WE JUST BROUGHT ON BOARD MM-HMM .

SO HOW DO WE, 'CAUSE I, I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR GRANTS OR FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE RTC.

I'M ON THE RTC.

SO I MEAN, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVERLOOKING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH WE ALMOST DID HERE? UM, SO I WILL SAY, I KNOW THE NORTH TEXAS DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS CALL FOR PROJECT DID COME THROUGH THE RTC FOR APPROVAL, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE, UM, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY COMMUNICATED THAT IT PARKER COUNTY WAS ELIGIBLE.

SO PERHAPS THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT TO OPEN THE CALL PROJECTS, I SAW IT'S ALL GOOD.

THEY DID BRING IT.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I WILL SAY MY TEAM IS WORKING WITH CYNTHIA BECAUSE SHE LET US KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONCERN NOT ONLY MISSING COUNCIL GOVERNMENT'S FUNDING, BUT THERE'S ALSO STATE FUNDING AND THERE'S FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO A REQUEST FROM CYNTHIA FOR A LOT OF VEHICLES AND INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR VEHICLES, THAT WAS FROM MY TEAM.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO HELP HER IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU GUYS COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST.

UM, OKAY, GOOD.

SOMETIMES IT'S JUST GETTING THE RIGHT PERSON

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TO TALK TO.

AND MAYBE THAT'S YOUR NEW GRANT WRITER.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS FOR THIS? WHAT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, REFUELING INFRASTRUCTURE? SO SPECIFICALLY, UH, CMG? SO I KNOW THAT THAT IS A CONCERN AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU FOR INFORMATION ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FUEL INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THERE IS A, WHAT'S CALLED A STATION LOCATOR ONLINE WHERE IT'S AN INVENTORY OF STATIONS.

AND TO BE HONEST, THERE'S NOT A TON IN PARKER COUNTY.

THERE'S ONE .

OKAY.

SO NOT A TON, DEFINITELY.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO SOME OF THESE GRANT FUNDS DO ALSO PROVIDE MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MM-HMM .

SOME, SOME DO NOT.

IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF PARKER COUNTY IS OPEN TO ANY KIND OF ALTERNATIVE FUELING OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS SHARING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ANOTHER FLEET.

UM, SO I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A U-HAUL OUT HERE FOR A LONG TIME, U-HAUL WAS ACTUALLY OFFERING FLEETS TO COME AND REFILL AT THEIR PROPANE STATIONS.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND A UNIQUE SITUATION.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME FLEETS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HAVING FUEL BROUGHT IN TO THEM.

AND THEN JUST REFUELING THE TRUCKS.

SO NOT CNG, NO, HAS TO BE 3,600 POUNDS OF PRESSURE.

UM, SO THAT DOESN'T WORK.

WE, WE HAVE ONE AND WE'VE GOT A DEAL, BUT IF WE HAD SOME MORE CENTRALIZED, IF WE HAD ANOTHER CENTRALIZED LOCATION, IT WOULD MAKE IT UP SO THAT COUNTY VEHICLES BUILDING AND GROUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD, COULD COME.

GOT IT.

FUEL HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE, OUR CNG FUELING STATION IS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT EIGHT MILES WEST, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM.

SO WE'RE, I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW, 'CAUSE IT MENTIONED THAT IN YOUR MATERIALS HERE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS MONEY AVAILABLE THERE OR NOT.

SO FOR THE NORTH TEXAS DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION CALL FOR PROJECTS, YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK IT'S CAPPED.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, BUT I CAN CHECK AND GET, SO IT'S A 45% CAP OR LESS DEPENDING ON THE FUEL TYPE.

SO IT'S JUST A FLAT AMOUNT MM-HMM .

AND SO I DON'T THINK ADDITIONAL FUNDS WOULD BE AWARDED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IF THAT YEAH.

NOT FOR THIS GRANT, BUT I MEAN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

YES.

SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE STATE PROGRAM ALTERNATIVE FUELING FACILITIES MM-HMM .

I AM.

UM, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO THAT AND CONSIDER WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ONE THAT WAS FUNDED, THAT'S A QUARTER MILE FROM MY, FROM MY LOCATION.

OH, INTERESTING.

IT, IT WAS, IT WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO MM-HMM .

12 YEARS AGO OR SO WITH CHART FUNDS.

GOT IT.

UM, SO WE, WHENEVER WE'RE REVIEWING THE PROGRAMS WITH CYNTHIA, WE CAN ALSO INDICATE WHICH ONES WOULD INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DRAWBACKS.

THERE'S NO PENALTIES OR NEGATIVE TESTING NO.

ADOPTING THE POLICIES.

NO.

THOSE ARE POLICIES WE NEED TO BE ADOPTING ANYHOW.

THE, THE IDLE REDUCTION POLICY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MAKES SENSE NOW BECAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU, I'VE GOT SOME OF THE DRIVERS THAT WE HAVE OR HAVE GRAY HAIR AND THEY DO WHAT OTHERS DID BEFORE THEM AND THEY LEFT THE TRUCKS RUNNING WHEN THEY GOT OUT OF IT, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE AIR CONDITIONER TO KEEP RUNNING OR WHATEVER.

BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S THERE NOW, THOSE VEHICLES NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY OVER AT MAC 'CAUSE THESE REGENS AND THEY'RE THE ONLY COMPANY.

YEP.

YOU KNOW, IT DOES, IT, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU GOTTA SEND ONE OVER THERE, PLUS IT'S DOWN FOR A LONG TIME.

YEAH.

SO IT'D BE NICE IF THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT HELPED OUT WITH THAT EXPENSE BECAUSE ESPECIALLY ON OUR EQUIPMENT, IF THAT THING GOES INTO THE REGION MODE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF REBUILDING THE ROAD.

WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS. YEAH.

AND THAT'S ALL IN THE NAME OF YEAH, WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH SOME, WITH SOME VEHICLES IN THE 2010 RANGE WITH THE, THE THE EMISSIONS CONTROL STUFF ON THE VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY MAX.

YEAH.

UH, WHICH MODEL WAS THAT? IF YOU REMEMBER? THAT'D BE ANY OF 'EM.

CH SIX 13.

OKAY.

UH, IN ABOUT A, ABOUT A 2009, 2010 YEAR MODEL.

THEY HAVE ISSUES.

THEY HAVE TO AND IT IS, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND THAT'S TO, TO GET YEAH.

IT KIND OF, IT, IT UNDERMINES THE PROGRAM.

SURE.

BECAUSE THEN WE'RE HAVING TO GO INTO OUR, INTO OUR BUDGET AND FUND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

AND IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT'S DOWNTIME.

YOU, YOU'RE HAVING TO TAKE IT ACROSS TOWN AND IT'S OVER THERE AND YOU'RE AT THEIR MERCY BECAUSE THEIR SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN DO IT.

SO IS

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THE ISSUE MAYBE THAT IT'S A FIRST GENERATION AND MAYBE GETTING SOMETHING LIKE A NEWER HYBRID WOULD HELP WHERE BEING ELIGIBLE FOR THIS FUNDING WOULD HELP FOR THAT.

UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S JUST OLD TECHNOLOGY.

THESE ARE NEWER, OUR NEWER VEHICLES, THESE ARE THE NEWER ONES.

WHEREAS THESE KIND OF ISSUES WITH 'EM.

YEAH.

BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS SAY NEWER, SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 15 YEARS OLD.

BUT WE, WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE REGENERATION THINGS THEY HAVE.

WELL I, YEAH, I, IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE THAT'S NOW OLD TECHNOLOGY.

WELL THE NEW TECHNOLOGY, BUT THEY WON'T QUALIFY FOR A LOT OF THE GRANTS 'CAUSE THEY'RE TOO NEW.

YEAH.

UM, SPECIAL.

NO, NOT THOSE AREN'T, UM, FOCUSED ON FUNDING.

BUT DO YOU KNOW THE GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING OF THOSE VEHICLES? I, I PERSONALLY DO NOT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

NO, IT'S OKAY.

IT'S OKAY.

THEY'RE GONNA BE HEAVY.

UM, WE HAVE YOUR FLEET INVENTORY SO WE CAN LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

UM, OKAY.

YOU ARE, THE MOST FUNDING THAT IS OUT THERE IS FOR PRE 2008 HEAVY DUTY DIESEL VEHICLES.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF EMISSIONS CONTROLS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT RIGHT AT 2008 FOR NEW VEHICLES.

MM-HMM .

AND I IMAGINE THAT'S WHY 2009, 2010, YOU'RE PROBABLY HAVING ISSUES WITH THOSE IS 'CAUSE THEY WERE THE FIRST GENERATION RIGHT AFTER THOSE EMISSION CONTROL STANDARDS WENT IN.

AND SO THAT IS WHY THOSE PRE 2008 VEHICLES DON'T HAVE ANY EMISSIONS REGULATIONS TYPICALLY.

WELL, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT NEARLY AS MUCH.

AND SO A LOT OF FEDERAL AGENCIES, STATE AGENCIES, FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY WANNA TARGET THOSE.

BUT THERE IS FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE NEWER.

THERE'S JUST LESS.

SO POST 2008.

UM, AND THEN TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE IDLING, WE DEFINITELY ACKNOWLEDGE, AND THE REASON WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL REVIEW AND MAYBE EDIT THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT PROBABLY A CONSTRUCTION IS PROBABLY AN EXEMPTION, UM, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE WORKERS AND YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLES KEEPING THEM COMFORTABLE.

UM, TEMPERATURE IS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME FOLKS THAT COULD MAYBE TURN OFF THEIR ENGINE THAT MAYBE A NON-CRITICAL OPERATION.

THIS, THIS POLICY IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT WILL LET US EMPHASIZE IT TO THE GUYS THAT ARE DRIVING THOSE TRUCKS.

'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, ME YELLING AT 'EM IS NOT GETTING SHOT DONE ME YELLING AT EVERYBODY OR WHOEVER IS NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE.

SO ONCE WE'VE GOT THE POLICY, WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY, WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY TO LET THOSE GUYS KNOW THAT IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO LEAVE YOUR ENGINE RIGHT.

IDLING WHILE YOU EAT LUNCH.

YEAH.

UM, WE CAN ALSO, THERE ARE SOME RESOURCES THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, SOME EXAMPLES, SIGNAGE THAT WE COULD PROVIDE AS A FOLLOW UP.

YOU ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.

RIGHT.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY.

SO JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FROM MY END.

UM, IT GETS HOT IN TEXAS AS YOU KNOW, IN THE SUMMER.

SO IF WE HAVE A GUY WHO, WE HAVE TWO GUYS WHO AGREE TO MEET AT A CERTAIN LOCATION, ONE OF 'EM GETS THERE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MINUTES BEFORE THE OTHER ONE AND IT'S 108 DEGREES OUTSIDE, IS HIM SITTING THERE WITH HIS WINDOWS UP KEEPING THE AC ON BECAUSE IT'S 108 OUTSIDE? IS THAT CONSIDERED ILINK? SO YES, IT'S TECH, WELL IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT WHAT THE SETTING IS.

IS THE ENGINE RUNNING OR IS HE WHATEVER'S NECESSARY TO KEEP THE AC RUNNING? SO TECHNICALLY YES, THAT WOULD BE IDLING.

HOWEVER, WE DO FLAG THAT.

UM, PASSENGER VEHICLES REQUIRING HEAT OR AC NECESSARY FOR PASSENGER COMFORT, THEY'RE EXEMPTED.

SO THERE'S AN ENTIRE SECTION RIGHT HERE THAT ARE EXEMPTIONS AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND MAYBE ADD FOR YOUR OPERATIONS WHAT ARE EXEMPTIONS THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO FLAG BECAUSE WE WOULD NEVER WANNA PUT THE SAFETY OF ANYONE AT RISK FOR THIS.

YEAH.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA SIT IN MY CAR IF IT'S 110 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND SIT THERE FOR 10 MINUTES AND NOT I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW QUICK YOU SEE ALL THE STUFF ON HOW QUICK, YOU KNOW, BABY LEFT IT IN THE CAR.

DEFINITELY.

OF COURSE.

HOW, HOW QUICK IT GETS HOT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SAFETY IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH AN EXTENSIVE EXEMPTION SECTION AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REVIEW AND EDIT IT AS NEEDED.

DOES, DOES HE REVERT, REFER BACK TO THE, THE, THE LINE ITEM HERE THAT SAYS USE COMMON SENSE IN ? THAT PROBABLY IS THE ONE THAT WE NEED TO HANG ON.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDS THOUGH.

YEAH, I'LL PUT UH, SO TWO, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, IT SAYS IN HERE, I THINK IT'S ON THE CLEAN FEE, CLEAN FLEET POLICY.

ON THE SECOND PAGE UNDER 3.1 IT SAYS SUBMIT TIMELY CLEAN FEE, CLEAN FLEET POLICY REPORTING.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN ON THE THIRD PAGE IT SAYS, THE EXTENT OF CLEAN FLEET POLICY IMPLEMENTATION AS DOCUMENTED THROUGH REPORTING

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WILL BE A FACTOR IN FLEET RECOGNITION.

WHAT DOES THAT REPORTING LOOK LIKE? SO THAT REPORTING IS ACTUALLY OPEN RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, I CAN PROVIDE A LINK TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE HAVE A SOFTWARE CALLED LASERFICHE.

AND ONCE A YEAR, TYPICALLY IN THE MARCH-ISH TIMEFRAME, WE WILL SEND OUT THE LINK TO THE SURVEY TO ALL OF OUR ADOPTEES AND ASK YOU ALL TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY.

IT IS, I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU, IT'S A LITTLE LONG, BUT IT TAKES LONGER THE MORE ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES YOU HAVE.

SO WHAT IT'S ASKING YOU IS WHAT ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES DO YOU HAVE? SO IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU CAN SKIP THAT SECTION.

WHAT IDLE REDUCTION EFFORTS ARE YOU MAKING? SO DO YOU HAVE SIGNAGE? WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF MINUTES THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO IDLE AND WHAT VEHICLES DOES IT APPLY TO? SO TYPICALLY POLICE AND FIRE ARE EXEMPTED, MAYBE OTHER, UM, FOLKS ARE EXEMPTED.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE DOING ANY KIND OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OR FUEL EFFICIENCY EFFORTS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ALLOW ANY TELECOMMUTING, BUT YOU COULD REPORT TELECOMMUTING.

UM, IF YOU ENCOURAGE YOUR GUYS TO CARPOOL, IF YOU DO ANY KIND OF LOW RESISTANCE TIRES ADOPTING THOSE, IF YOU DO ANY DOWNSIZING OR ROUTE RIGHT SIZING.

SO MAYBE YOUR GUY DOESN'T NEED A QUARTER TON TRUCK.

MAYBE THEY COULD GET A LAY OF SOMETHING A LITTLE SMALLER.

UM, THOSE KIND OF THINGS YOU CAN REPORT.

SO THESE ARE, SO THE REPORTING IS MORE OF POLICY AND PROCEDURE STUFF VERSUS JOEY DROVE 86 MILES TODAY AND OH NO, IT IS NOTHING THAT DETAILED.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, IF WE HAVE TO GET INTO THAT TYPE OF DETAIL, THAT MIGHT BE, UH, WELL I DON BUT THERE IS, THERE IS SOME REPORTING THAT IS REQUIRED AND ONGOING.

YES.

AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO DESIGNATE THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

I WILL SAY, CYNTHIA, YOU, IF YOU MISS WHEN YOU'RE REPORTING, BECAUSE THERE'S MAYBE STAFF TURNOVER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU UNAD ADOPT A POLICY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE UNDERSTAND.

WELL, WE JUST WANNA BE IN COMPLIANCE.

DEFINITELY, OF COURSE.

WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES AND UH, CYNTHIA, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION ON A RESOURCE THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT DOING.

UM, WE JUST NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE REPORTING RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND, AND APPROVAL OR THAT, UH, WE DESIGNATE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE TO MANAGE THIS.

IS THAT A PROBLEM? AND I'M PUTTING THE CARD IN FRONT OF THE HORSE 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T APPROVED IT ANYTHING.

BUT WOULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I HANDLE THAT FOR YOU, JUDGE.

I I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, OUR REDUCTION POLICY.

THANK YOU.

UM, WHAT MR. SOON IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PROGRAM, UM, FOR, UH, ITEMS A AND B I'LL SECOND IT, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION, SO I'LL, I'LL QUESTION, I'LL ALTER THAT TO MAKE IT THE, OUR REDUCTION AND THE CLEAN PLEA POLICY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, YES.

OKAY.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS ON THIS PAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT 60 MILLION FROM 2006 TO 2022.

I MEAN, LET'S CALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW, 15 YEARS OR SO.

YES.

ROUND, ROUND NUMBER.

UM, LOCOMOTIVE IS A HEALTHY CHUNK OF THAT.

MM-HMM .

WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOCOMOTIVE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 MILLION BUCKS OVER 15 YEARS FOR 16 COUNTIES.

IS THAT, OR IS IT JUST THE 10 COUNTIES? UM, SO IT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAM.

SOMETIMES IT HAS BEEN JUST NON-ATTAINMENT AREAS.

SO THAT WOULD JUST BE THE 10 COUNTIES.

SOMETIMES IT'S 16 COUNTIES.

SO EACH PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT.

AND PART OF THIS IS EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION, WE TRY TO GO AND GET AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN FOR OUR REGION.

AND SOMETIMES THOSE PRIORITIES JUST VARY.

AND SO, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE LOCOMOTIVES, I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS, WE'VE NOT PROVIDED ANY FUNDING FOR LOCOMOTIVES.

SO THAT IS PRE ME.

UH, BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE CURRENT FOCUS OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WAS MORE ON, ON ROAD VEHICLES.

SO THE HEAVY DUTY AND THE LIGHT DUTY.

SO WHERE I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS $50 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY OVER 15 YEARS.

IT'S NOT AS MUCH.

SURE.

UM, AND THEN SPLIT AMONG 10 TO 16 COUNTIES MM-HMM .

IS EVEN LESS.

I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT CAN WE REASONABLY EXPECT VERY BALLPARK NUMBERS FOR PARKER COUNTY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

IF WE WERE TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND, AND APPROVE THIS AND ADOPT IT AND REPORT IT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

ARE WE LOOKING AT LIKE MAYBE A MILLION BUCKS A YEAR? MM-HMM .

ARE WE LOOKING AT LESS THAN THAT? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT LESS THAN THAT? SO I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT YOUR FLEET TO SEE HOW MANY ARE ELIGIBLE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELIGIBLE PROJECTS CHANGE, THAT'S, I'M SORRY, THAT'S A VERY HARD NUMBER.

SURE.

BUT WHAT I CAN COMMIT IS THAT THERE'S ALSO STATE FUNDING

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AVAILABLE AND NOT ONLY ARE WE HELPING CYNTHIA LOOK AT SOME FUNDING THAT'S ELIGIBLE THROUGH US, BUT ALSO STATE FUNDING THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT BE ABLE TO APPLY TO.

AND HONESTLY, THE STATE FUNDING PROBABLY HAS MORE FUNDING THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT THAN ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DEPENDENT ON THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.

WHEN SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT STATE FUNDING, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE TURP PROGRAM.

YES.

I WAS GONNA ASK WHICH, UH, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE IS YOU DON'T HAVE OLD ENOUGH TRUCKS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO, WHILE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THE TUR PROGRAM THE WAY WE HAVE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD, WOULD HELP US IS IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, LIKE I SAID, A, A CENTRAL FUEL OR ACCESS TO, TO MORE ESPECIALLY C AND G BECAUSE IN C AND G THIS ROUND THERE WAS 25 MILLION AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WERE, THERE WERE ONLY 10 APPLICATIONS PROBABLY TOTALING SOMEWHERE AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR 6 MILLION AND THAT MONEY'S THERE JUST SITTING THERE.

AND WE'VE BEEN ACCESSING IT.

JUST SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GETTING 1.25 MILLION RIGHT NOW IN C AND G AND TAKING THIS UP TO, THIS WILL TAKE, IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN EVERY, UH, TURP DIESEL PART TWO, WE'LL HAVE 31 VEHICLES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

BUT THE, THE HOLD UP, UH, IS NOT HAVING OLD ENOUGH VEHICLES BECAUSE THE, UH, THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE IS HIGHER.

THE OLDER VEHICLE THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THERE'S A CHART THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT AND IT CHANGES EVERY, EVERY YEAR.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME EVERY YEAR, BUT UH, UH, WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT ON THE DIESEL SIDE IS BECAUSE WE HAD, UH, OLD TRUCKS.

AND THAT REIMBURSEMENT IS 80% FOR THE HIGHEST ONES FROM THE TURP PROGRAM.

AND I, I THINK THE MOST THAT I'M SEEING HERE IS ABOUT 50% POSSIBLY IF YOU QUALIFIED FOR THE NORTH TEXAS DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION CALL FOR PROJECTS, IT IS IN BETWEEN 25% AND 45%.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S MUCH LOWER WHERE THE C AND G PROGRAM, UH, HAD BEEN AT 90%.

UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THE TEXAS NATURAL GAS VEHICLE GRANT PROGRAM.

YEAH, IT, IT WAS LOWER THIS YEAR.

THEY CHANGED IT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, THEY DID, THEY CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

RIGHT.

SO THEY MIGHT HAVE, IT'S GONE UP AND DOWN BETWEEN 80 AND 90%.

MOST OF THE PROGRAMS ARE 80% OR LESS ON A, WHAT I CALL A SIDING SCALE DEPENDING ON HOW OLD THE VEHICLE IS.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YEAH.

WHICH TAKES US BACK TO IF WE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW FOR MORE CNG VEHICLES.

YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY.

'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE, WE'RE APPROACHING 20 CNG VEHICLES IN MY PRECINCT AND AND THOSE THAT YOU LOOKED AT ON MY LIST, EVERY ONE OF THOSE WE'VE ALREADY, UH, WE'VE GOT, WE ORDERED NEW TRUCKS FOR THEM 'CAUSE THEY'VE ALL BEEN APPROVED THIS TIME.

SO PROBABLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEST FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR, WELL FIRST LEMME SAY THAT THE TURP PROGRAM, IT OPERATE, OPERATES ON A TWO YEAR CYCLE.

SO THERE'S 10 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITHIN THE STATE'S.

UM, TURP PROGRAM, THE TEXAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN AND EACH OF THOSE 10 PROGRAMS WILL FUND DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

SO THERE'S ONE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE ONLY FOR HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES.

THERE ARE SOME THAT'S ONLY FOR OFF-ROAD VEHICLES.

THERE ARE SOME A COUPLE FOR LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES.

SO KIND OF YOUR LIGHT DUTY OR MEDIUM DUTY.

BUT THE MEDIUM DUTY IS, IS A THREE QUARTER TON.

AND SO IT WILL WORK FOR THREE, FOUR TON PICKUPS AND YES, THANK YOU.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WHENEVER THE TEXAS LEGISLATOR MEETS, THEY REVISIT THE GUIDELINES FOR THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEY CAN UPDATE THEM.

SO RIGHT NOW THEY ARE REVIEWING THEM AND THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME UPDATES AND THE CYCLE IS GONNA RESTART IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO OVER FROM SEPTEMBER, 2025 TO MAY, 2027, THOSE 10 PROGRAMS ARE GONNA BE OPENING AND CLOSING.

AND SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM AS THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT AND THEN APPLY.

UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'RE TRYING TO PROACTIVELY WORK WITH CYNTHIA TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES MIGHT OF YOUR VEHICLES MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IS BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN DO THIS PLANNING AHEAD OF TIME AND BE PREPARED WHENEVER THOSE OPEN.

SO DOES YOUR OFFICE HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT TO THE CHANGES THAT, THAT THEY MAKE AT THE STATE LEVEL? UH, SOMETIMES UH, WE, IT IS ON THE RTC LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, UM, PRESERVING THE TURP FUND AND SOMETIMES WE DO PROVIDE COMMENTS IF REQUESTED.

OKAY.

I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION BUT I WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU.

IF WE ADOPT THIS POLICY, IS THERE ANY RE UH, ANY REQUIREMENTS? ARE Y'ALL GONNA HAVE SOME MONITORS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN OUR VEHICLES? NO SIR.

UM, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU INSTALL GPS OR SOME KIND OF TELEMATICS SYSTEM, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT HELPS WITH THE SAFETY.

IT HELPS MAKE SURE THE DRIVERS ARE FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA MONITOR.

NO SIR.

I WILL NOT BE COMING OUT HERE AND CHECKING AND MAKING SURE YOU GUYS AREN'T IDLING PAST FIVE MINUTES OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE

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.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER PROGRAMS BESIDES THAT TURP AT THE STATE LEVEL? NOT FOR, WELL THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING LEFT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE VOLKSWAGEN LAWSUIT MM-HMM .

WHERE THEY WERE FOUND GUILTY OF SOME DEFEAT DEVICES.

YEAH.

UM, FOR EMISSIONS TESTING, THERE IS SOME FUNDING THAT'S BEING OFFERED AT THE STATE LEVEL THROUGH THE TEXAS ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PROGRAM.

BUT THAT IS ONLY FOR ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.

AND I UM, IF YOU GUYS AREN'T READY FOR THAT THEN YOU KNOW, YOU DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE TO GO FOR THAT.

YEAH.

AND THAT FUNDING, THEY HAD 88 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE GRANT ROUND AND I BELIEVE 97 MILLION HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

NOT ALL OF THAT FUNDING IS ACCEPTABLE 'CAUSE PEOPLE SEND IN APPLICATIONS FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T ELIGIBLE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER FUNDING.

AND THEN ON AND OFF THERE IS SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION OFFICE FOR MORE ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES.

THEY HAVE DONE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BEFORE, BUT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE OPENING UP ANYTIME SOON.

BUT WE DO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN I WILL SAY WE HAVE A E-BLAST THAT'S, UH, GOES OUT WEEKLY AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR GRANT WRITER TO SIGN UP FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT FUNDING AND ANYTHING THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT'S FUNDING RELATED, WE PUT IN THAT E-BLAST.

SO I CAN TELL YOU WHERE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION SINCE THIS IS YOUR WHEELHOUSE BECAUSE I'VE, AND I'VE HAD IT FOR A WHILE.

OKAY.

SO I'VE HAD DIESEL TRUCKS FOR DECADES AND I WENT AND BOUGHT ANOTHER DIESEL TRUCK, YOU KNOW, 12 SAY 12 YEARS AGO.

AND IT HAD ALL THE NEW DEATH AND ALL THE DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTERS AND EVERY THAT, ALL THAT.

AND YOUR MEASUREMENT AND EVERYTHING UP HERE WAS BY PARTS PER BILLION.

MM-HMM .

AND I WENT FROM GETTING ABOUT 20 MILES A GALLON WITH THE SAME VEHICLE TO ABOUT NINE WITH ALL OF THE YES STUFF ON IT MM-HMM .

AND A LOT MORE ISSUES IN GOING INTO THE SERVICE BAY AND EXPENSES AFTER WENT OUT.

WARRANTY.

WHAT DOES Y'ALL'S DATA SHOW AS THE, WHENEVER YOU, BECAUSE YOU START LOOKING HERE AND READING IN THESE GUIDELINES, IT'S ABOUT FUEL CONSUMPTION REDUCTION.

SURE.

AND FOR LESS PARTS PER BILLION MM-HMM .

WE'RE HAVING TO BURN MORE FUEL TO GO THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILES.

AND SO HOW THAT CORRELATES CONFUSED ME 'CAUSE I'M HAVING TO BURN ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH FUEL MM-HMM .

TO GO THE SAME AMOUNT OF DISTANCE ON THE SAME ONE TIME DIESEL PICKUP.

SURE.

AND YOU SEE WHERE THE CONFUSION IS HERE IN THE, IN THE GUIDELINES OVER HERE.

IT'S LOWER IN FUEL CONSUMPTION, BUT THE METRICS ARE TO LOWER THE PARTS PER BILLION.

YEP.

SO THE, THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE WERE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAD TO MEET MM-HMM .

AND THEY, THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY, THEY HAD TO MEET THAT AT THAT TIME IS, WAS FLAWED DOWN, FLAWED AND, AND REDUCED THE MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

HOPEFULLY NOWADAYS WERE BETTER, AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE.

BUT THOSE, THOSE DEAF SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM EVER SINCE THEY CAME OUT.

AND UH, PROBABLY IT WAS PUSHED DOWN THEIR THROAT BEFORE THEY HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO, TO MANAGE THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY VOLKSWAGEN CHEATED.

AND I THINK RAM CHEATED TOO, BY THE WAY.

I HAVE A, A GM YUKON DENALI RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES 'CAUSE IT CUTS OFF HALF THE CYLINDERS.

MM-HMM .

EVERY GM DEALERSHIP AROUND HERE KNOWS ABOUT IT.

AND IT'S A PROBLEM 'CAUSE THE, THE WARRANTIES DON'T GO VERY FAR ON A LOT OF THESE MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM.

SURE.

AND THE FIX IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ON THESE THINGS.

IT'S ALL, OKAY, LET'S SAY WE GET 50%, IF WE GOT A A, A REASONABLE LOCATION FOR C AND G FUELING, THAT MIGHT HELP.

BUT IF WE GET OVER HERE WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING MM-HMM .

AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING AND THE PRODUCTIVITY VERSUS PULLBACK ON PRODUCTIVITY WAITING ON A MACHINE TO GET FIXED.

I I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE PUTTING DOLLARS AND CENTS DOWN RIGHT HERE AND LOOKING AT THIS AS RUNNING A BUSINESS, I WOULD WANT TO DO A DEEP, A DEEP DIVE IF IT WAS MY PERSONAL BUSINESS TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THIS ACTUALLY COST ME.

SURE.

AND I'M JUST GOING FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND GETTING SOME KIND OF GOOD TELEMATICS SYSTEM OR FLEET MONITORING SYSTEM.

WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE LOG ALL OUR DATA NOW.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S GREAT.

SO I'LL SAY A

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COUPLE THINGS.

ONE IS THAT IS WHY WE BUILD IN FLEXIBILITY AND WE SAY THINGS LIKE AS PRACTICAL OR AS ABLE IS BECAUSE WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER THERE'S AN INITIAL SHIFT IN THE TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE.

SO TO YOUR POINT, IF YOU GET AN ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE, BUT YOU'RE ONLY DRIVING IT, YOU KNOW, 30 MILES, GRANTED MOST ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES HAVE MUCH HIGHER RANGE THAN THAT, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN'T DRIVE IT VERY FAR 'CAUSE THERE'S NO STATIONS, YOU'RE REALLY NOT GETTING THAT MUCH OF A BENEFIT.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR OPERATIONS AND PICK THE CLEANEST FLEET THAT THE CLEANEST VEHICLE THAT'S POSSIBLE OR THE CLEANEST TECHNOLOGY THAT STILL FITS THE OPERATIONS AND MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO, IF YOU'RE LEGITIMATELY DOUBLING THE FUEL CONSUMPTION, UM, FOR THE VEHICLES, WHICH I IMAGINE I'VE HEARD MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE FIRST GENERATION RIGHT AFTER THOSE EMISSION STANDARDS.

SO THIS IS NOT NEW TO ME.

THOSE INITIAL DIFF SYSTEMS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE USING BIODIESEL IN THEM, UM, I'VE HEARD THAT THOSE ARE PARTICULARLY BAD.

SO DEFINITELY ACKNOWLEDGE, THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.

I DON'T HEAR THOSE COMPLAINTS NEARLY AS MUCH NOW.

AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE DO HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN GIVE ESTIMATES OF EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS, EVEN WHEN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE DIFFERENCE IN MILES PER GALLON.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS AS YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A FLEET REPLACEMENT WHERE YOU WANNA SAY, OKAY, I PAY, SO MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

PROPANE AND COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS AND GASOLINE, ALL OF THOSE ARE LESS ENERGY DENSE THAN DIESEL.

AND SO SIMILAR, UH, IN THE SAME KIND OF VEIN, WHENEVER YOU SWITCH TO ONE OF THOSE, THEY MIGHT BE LOWER EMITTING, BUT DEPENDING ON THE OPERATIONS, IF THEY'RE LESS ENERGY DENSE AND YOU'RE GETTING LESS MILES PER GALLON, IT MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS.

AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT WITH YOU BASED ON WHAT ACTUAL VEHICLES YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING.

AND THERE'S A TOOL THAT'S PUT OUT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.

IT'S A HUGE SPREADSHEET THAT TAKES THESE, UM, EMISSION RATES.

AND WE CAN HELP YOU ALL WITH THAT.

WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

PROPANE QUALIFIES FOR THE TURK GRANT TOO.

MM-HMM .

PROPANE, IT'S A POSSIBILITY, AND I'VE TOLD YOU ALL THIS BEFORE, BUT OUR, UH, OUR DUMP TRUCKS THAT WE'VE GOT AND HAUL TRUCKS, UH, THAT ARE USING, UH, COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS, WE FIND NO DIFFERENCE IN THE POWER BETWEEN THOSE AND THE DIESEL TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE DRIVERS AT ALL.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THEN? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND READY TO VOTE? UH, ANY DISCUSSION FURTHER? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

FIVE.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I WANTED TO BRING UP A FEW, UM, COMMENTS, UM, ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAD.

UM, YOU ASKED JUDGE ABOUT, UH, THE RTCU PRESENTING THESE AVAILABLE, UH, GRANTS.

UM, I ATTEND THE, UM, SURFACE TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES COME THROUGH AND GET PRESENTED.

AND THEN THEY GO TO RTC FOR APPROVAL.

SO A LOT OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES GET APPROVED UNDER THESE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEN THEY GO UP FOR RTC FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S WHERE I FIND ALL THAT INFORMATION AND I AM ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO PARKER COUNTY.

AND, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO SERVE ON THE CLEAN CITIES, UH, COALITION, WHICH IS WHAT SHE MENTIONED EARLIER.

AND THIS IS HOW I GET TO WORK WITH HER TEAM AND, UM, BE ABLE TO BRING EITHER, YOU KNOW, MORE DATA FOR YOU GUYS TO, UM, TO LOOK INTO AND IF INTERESTED TO APPROVE.

SO THAT'S WHERE MY TIME IS AT COG, UH, SERVING THESE COMMITTEES AND GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION BACK TO PARKER COUNTY.

NOT ALL APPLIES TO PARKER COUNTY AS COMMISSIONER HILL HAS BEEN TO SOME OF THE RTC MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS 10% PIECE REALLY RELATES TO OUR COUNTY OR WILL BENEFIT OUR COUNTY.

UM, IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, I GET TO GO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AND WHATEVER DOES RELATE OR WILL BENEFIT PARKER COUNTY IS WHAT I'M BRINGING BACK.

AND NOW WITH SHIRLEY HERE, IT'S GONNA BE SO MUCH EASIER SETTING ALL THESE GROUND, UM, OR THESE REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE FOR HER TO ACTUALLY TAKE ON OVER WHEN A CALL FOR PROJECTS COMES IN.

UM, SAVANNAH AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN AMAZING REVIEWING ALL ALL OF OUR FLEET, UM, INVENTORY, WHICH WAS HUGE.

AND SO WHAT I DID SEND TO YOU EARLIER ON AN EMAIL WAS THE NARROW DOWN, UM, INVENTORY, UH, FLEET INVENTORY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THE, UH, TEXAS DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION COFFER PROJECTS THAT IT'S DUE.

AND I'M CROSSING MY FINGERS THAT IT GETS, UM, EXTENDED.

THE DEADLINE GETS EXTENDED.

BUT IN YOUR EMAILS,

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YOU, UH, WILL FIND THAT, UM, SPREADSHEET AND I'VE ONLY, UH, ASKED FOR, UM, YOUR STAFF TO HELP ME OUT WITH THREE ITEMS. AND IT IS IN, IN DETAIL IN THAT, IN THAT EMAIL.

IF WE CAN GET THAT TO SAVANNAH, WE WILL, I'LL GET SHIRLEY INVOLVED AND WE CAN POSSIBLY, UH, WITH THE HELP OF SAVANNAH'S TEAM AND JASON, UM, GET THAT GOING, UM, FOR HOPEFULLY, UH, QUALIFICATIONS ON THIS, ON THIS GRANT.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING COFFER PROJECTS, OPENINGS INFORMATION, DATA BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR, UM, APPROVAL PRIOR TO ANYTHING BEING CONTINUED.

SO, UM, SHE IS ALSO HER TEAM, UM, IS HELPING WITH A FEW OTHER, UH, PROJECTS LIKE E VEHICLES.

THERE'S A LOANER PROGRAM TO TRY E VEHICLES AND OTHER SMALLER THINGS THAT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE, UH, ALL THE, UM, HEAVY DUTY EQUIPMENT THAT THE PRECINCTS USE, BUT MAYBE BUILDING AND GROUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I WILL BRING THAT INFORMATION LATER TO YOU ALL, UH, TO PRESENT IN COURT, BUT RIGHT NOW THIS WAS THE PRIORITY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, APPROVING THIS, UM, ADOPTING THIS POLICY.

AGAIN, JUST A QUICK COMMENT BEFORE WE ADJOURN IS THAT, UH, AGAIN, CYNTHIA IS, UH, A FULL-TIME, WHICH HAS REALLY BEEN A REALLOCATION, REDEPLOYMENT OF HER RESPONSIBILITIES IS NOW THE TRANSPORTATION LIAISON WITH COG AND RTC.

AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WORK WITH SHIRLEY ON THESE SITUATIONS, UH, TO MAXIMIZE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US FOR THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, COMMISSIONERS WORK WITH CYNTHIA ON THESE THINGS.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, JUST GO DIRECTLY WITH HER AND, UH, SHE'S OBVIOUSLY GOT A PLAY FULL BECAUSE SHE STILL HAS HER PREVIOUS, SOME PREVIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT HER FOCAL POINT IS TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, WORKING WITH SHIRLEY ON THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE RTC AND COGGLE GRANT RIDING.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THANK BOTH OF Y'ALL FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

YEAH.

SO ANYWAY, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON ADJOURNMENT.

I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE TO ADJOURN.

MOTION TO SECOND THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 1 54.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING.