* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] COMMISSIONER'S [Call to Order] COURT ON THIS 20TH DAY OF JULY, 2025, THE RECORD SHOW. IT IS 9:00 AM WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENT. WE WILL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION LED BY MARK JULIAN FROM NORTHSIDE BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, LED BY PARKER COUNTY, JUDGE PROAM. COMMISSIONER COLLEY. LET'S PRAY. EMILY, FATHER GOD, WE ADDRESS YOU THIS MORNING AS, UH, GOD OF ALL. YES SIR. YOU'RE SO SOVEREIGN AND YOU'RE SO AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. AND GOD, WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HAND UPON US, FOR THIS COUNTY, FOR THESE ARE COMMISSIONERS, OUR JUDGE, I PRAY THAT GOD, AS WE, UH, GO ABOUT BUSINESS TODAY, THAT IT'D BE YOUR BUSINESS AND THAT, LORD, YOU BE PLEASED. I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE HAND THAT YOU PLACE ON US BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A BLESSING, ITS LIFE FOREVER. THANK YOU FOR JESUS, MOST OF ALL IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE REALLY TO LIFE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. OUR PLEASURE LEADING CITY, TEXAS WILL STATE UNDER GOD. SIR, BEFORE I GO TO ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WANNA GO TO ITEM FIVE A [5.A. PRK24208 Zion Hill Level Up Change Order. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)] ON THE PRK 24 2 0 8 ZION HILL, LEVEL OF CHANGE ORDER. KIM, GOOD MORNING, COURT. UM, SO THIS ONE'S GONNA BE FOR, UH, UH, THE FINAL LEVEL OF CHANGE ORDER FOR THE X HILL LOOP WORK. AND BASICALLY AT THE BEGINNING WE ESTIMATE QUANTITIES, AND AT THE END YOU HAVE THE EXACT QUANTITIES. AND SO, SORRY YOU CAN'T READ THIS, BUT, UM, IN THE END, WE'RE, UH, REDUCING THE CONTRACT BY $1,510 AND THAT WE HAVE, AND ALL THE WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BOARD VOTE ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. YES. MINE'S NOT WORKING. FIVE YOU? I DID. SO MOTION CARRIES FIVE. OH, MOVE TO ITEM B ON THE [5.B. PRK24208 Ellis Creek Subdivision Level Up Change Order. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)] PRK 24 2 0 8 ELLIS CREEK SUBDIVISION LEVEL UP CHANGE ORDER. SO THIS IS A SIMILAR CASE. THIS IS FOR THE ELLIS CREEK, UH, SUBDIVISION WORK WHERE WE HAVE A LEVEL UP CHANGE ORDER. A COUPLE MINOR ITEMS, WE HAD ADJUSTED QUANTITIES. THERE'S A MORE SIGNIFICANT ITEM WHICH WAS, UM, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THE AMOUNT OF $93,000. AND THAT WAS JUST DUE TO THE CONTRACT CONTRACTOR FINISHING THE WORK. UH, AND IT TOOK AN ADDITIONAL $93,000 IN, UH, CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. I WANNA COMPLIMENT FREEZING NICHOLS IN THEIR WORK ON THESE PROJECTS. AND I SPECIFICALLY WANNA COM, UH, COMPLIMENT MR. DUSTIN BLAYLOCK. DUSTIN HAS BEEN, AND CHRIS IS FANTASTIC TOO, BUT HE'S NOT HERE, SO I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT HIM AS MUCH. DUSTIN'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. HE'S AN ENGINEER THAT THINKS OUT OF THE BOX SOMETIMES, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS COMMON FOR ENGINEERS. AND HE, HE FOCUSES ON GETTING THE JOB DONE. HE'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DUSTIN. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, MOTION. MOTION PASSES. FIVE. OH, YOU CAN GIMME THAT 50 BUCKS AFTERWARDS. , MOVE TO ITEM C ON PRK [5.C. PRK24206 Ellis Creek Subdivision Constrnction Services Amendment. (Kim Rivas/ Commissioner Holt)] 24, 2 0 6 ELLIS CREEK SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION SERVICE AMENDMENT. OH, SORRY. THIS IS, UM, SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT CONTRACT FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES, UH, FOR THE ELLIS CREEK PROJECT. AND IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO, UM, I THINK I HAD THE WRONG THING PULLED UP. UH, FOR THIS IS AN AMENDMENT FOR $93,000. THIS ISN'T THAT AMENDMENT THOUGH. I PULLED THE WRONG THING UP. THIS IS THEIR FINAL PAY REQUEST. I DON'T HAVE THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THIS IS TO MAKE A, I'M SORRY. THIS IS THE, UH, WORK FOR THE ELLIS CREEK SUBDIVISION, UM, THAT WE'RE REDUCING THE CONTRACT BY SO THAT IT, IT COULD, UH, THAT WAY THE COUNTY'S NOT PAYING THE DAMAGES TO THE CONTRACTOR. AND TO RIGHT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES. FIVE. OH, THANK YOU. THANK [00:05:01] YOU. MOVE BACK TO ITEM FOUR [4. CONSENT] ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UNDER ITEM EIGHT, AUDITOR ITEMS ONE OR ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE. WELL, 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR. ITEM B ITEMS ONE AND THREE ITEMS C ON THE COUNTY JUDGE ITEMS TWO AND THREE, HE WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION. JUDGE, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED COURT, I JUST WANTED TO BRING ONE ITEM TO YOUR ATTENTION UNDER BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. CAN I GET A SECOND BEFORE I DO THAT? SORRY, JUST GOT A CALL. NO, YOU'RE GOOD? YES. [4.A.2. Line item budget adjustments.] OKAY, PROCEED. OKAY. UNDER FIRE MARSHAL, UH, BUDGET ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. IT'S TO REPLACE, UH, TWO CAMERA PACKAGES. APPARENTLY THE CURRENT CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE ARE 15 YEARS OLD AND NO LONGER FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. AND SO I KNOW WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT, UM, BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS BEING SUBMITTED TO BY CERTAIN ITEMS, UM, UNDER THE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT ONE TO YOUR ATTENTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE. OH. WANNA MOVE DOWN TO [6.B. Discussion/Presentation on Department 554 Constable Precinct #4 budget requests. (Scott Jones/ Judge Deen)] ITEM SIX B ON DISCUSSION. PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT 5, 5, 4. CONSTABLE PRECINCT. FOUR. BUDGET REQUEST. UH, SCOTT, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WELL, UM, I'VE PUT THIS OFF FOR MANY YEARS AND I'VE FINALLY GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A CLERK TO HELP ME. AND, UH, I KNOW THE OTHER CONSTABLES HAVE HAD 'EM FOR YEARS AND I'M REAL PROUD OF THE EFFICIENCY OF MY OFFICE. AND, UH, BUT I'M, I'M SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME IN THE OFFICE AND SAME WITH, UH, MY CHIEF DEPUTY. AND IF I HAD A CLERK, IT'S GONNA FREE US UP TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING, WHICH IS THE PAPER SERVICE, OF COURSE. AND RESPONDED TO, UH, COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THE COMMISSIONER SPEEDERS IN THE AREA, PEOPLE RUNNING OVER HIS MOWING CREW AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT, UH, UM, AND THE CLERK SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE MOST EFFICIENT THING TO DO. UH, THE ONE DEPUTY I HAVE THAT DOES THE BULK OF THE PAPER IS MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE THIS CLERK USE, UH, THAT DESK AND THE, THE COMPUTER AND ALL THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT GO WITH IT. SO OTHER THAN THE SALARY, I DON'T ANTICIPATE, UH, NEEDING REALLY ANYTHING ELSE. UM, I HAD TRIED A PART-TIME CLERK IN THE PAST AND IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO WORK OUT AS WELL AS I'D HOPED. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY'D GET IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SOMETHING AND HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY GO OVER THEIR HOURS AND THEY'D HAVE TO LEAVE AND THEN EITHER I OR MY CHIEF DEPUTY WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP WHERE THEY LEFT OFF. AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. HOW MANY, HOW MANY DEPUTIES DO YOU HAVE? UH, TWO. JUST TWO YOU AND TWO MORE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA PRESENT? NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF. SO WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT A BUDGET COMMITTEE THAT IS KIND OF REVIEWING REQUESTS FOR PERSONNEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SCOTT. SO YES, SIR. WE'LL, UH, FORWARD THE REQUESTS OVER TO THE COMMITTEE AND YOU MIGHT GET A, AN EMAIL FROM COMMISSIONER HOLT THAT JUST ASKING YOU FOR JUSTIFICATION SURE. SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN US, SO. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT ITEM. MOVE BACK TO ITEM D ONE ON INTERDEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS OR EQUIPMENT AND INVENTORY REPORTS. KIM, ANY? OKAY. MOVE TO ITEM [D.2. Authorization to Advertise: RFP PC25-24 Juvenile Probation Specialized Therapeutic & Skills Building Services. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen)ยท] TWO. AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 24. JUVENILE PROBATION, SPECIALIZED THERAPEUTIC AND SKILLS BUILDING SERVICES. SO REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 24 FOR JUVENILE PROBATION, SPECIALIZED IN THE THERAPEUTIC AND SKILLS BUILDING SERVICES. ANTICIPATED ADVERTISING DATES OF AUGUST 6TH AND 13TH. ANTICIPATED OPENING OF AUGUST 26TH. AND AN ANTICIPATED AWARD DATE, UH, I'M SORRY, ANTICIPATED OPENING OF AUGUST 28TH WITH AN AWARD DATE OF SEPTEMBER 8TH. IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE ADVERTISED FOR BEFORE THIS, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE JUVENILE HAS DONE BEFORE. I UNDERSTAND. IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE BEFORE? THIS? THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF, IT'S A NEW CONTRACT, SO IT'D BE BEFORE, AND WE'VE JUST DONE IT ANNUALLY. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO, UM, DO A RENEWAL ON THIS, BUT THIS WOULD BE A BRAND NEW OKAY. CONTRACT. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN? A SECOND. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? YOU NEED MAY 2ND THAT IF NOT I WILL WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL ALL THIS IS? WELL, I'M NOT THERAPEUTIC, I'M NOT AN EXPERT [00:10:01] IN IT. IT THAT ASHLEY REQUESTED THAT THIS BE A SERVICE. I MEAN, IT HELPS THEM BUILD AND THE JUVENILES, UM, WITH SKILLS THAT WOULD HELP THEM, UM, LIFE SKILLS AND SO FORTH. BUT I'M, I'M NOT EX SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT . I I THINK THE, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS THAT WE WOULD, AT THE TIME OF THE BID OPENING, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE REPRESENTING SURE. CRIMINAL PROBATION THAT ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THIS IS AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING NEW OR IF THIS'S SOMETHING THAT NO, WE HAD SOME, SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES ARE SOMETHING NEW. I THINK THE WORDING IS PROBABLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SO IN THE PAST YEAR, I THINK YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE, THE LONG TERM DETENTION SERVICES? NO. OR SHORT TERM. I'M NOT, WE, WE HAD THIS BID OR THIS PROPOSAL, WE DID IT LAST YEAR, BUT WE JUST DID IT FOR ONE SINGLE YEAR. MM-HMM . AND SO THAT BID IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE OR THAT CONTRACT. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE PROBABLY NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT'S FINE. AT THE TIME OF BID OPENING AND, AND YEP. BEFORE APPROVAL. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION. I'M SORRY IF I CAN NO, COMMENT. SOMETHING JUST REAL QUICK. UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AGREE COMPLETELY WITH COMMISSIONER WALDEN. UH, A LOT OF THE STUFF AROUND THE JUVENILE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE IS, IS AGAINST THE JUVENILE COMMITTEE OR THE JUVENILE BOARD OR, OR ANY OF THAT. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE FUNDING FROM TAXPAYERS THAT WE HAVE TO BE THE BEST POSSIBLE STEWARDS OF. AND KIM, YOU KNOW THIS, I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO YOU, I'M JUST SAYING THIS TO ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANNA SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM, IT'S THAT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT MOUTHS TO FEED, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE'VE GOT TO ASSESS WHERE DO WE SOLVE THE MOST PROBLEMS WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND, AND THIS IS A STATE MANDATE THAT IS NOT FUNDED BY THE STATE, WHICH GETS REAL TOUGH FOR US. I KNOW, I KNOW COMMISSIONER HALE LOVES THOSE SO MUCH. UM, YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOTTING OUR I'S AND CROSSING OUR T'S JUST FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE GONNA COME PRESENT ON THAT JUDGE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND I, I, I SUGGEST WE VOTE ON THAT. 'CAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING IS ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR? UH, A A AYE AYE. AYE. RAISE FIVE. I THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. MOVE TO ITEM FOUR. [D.3. Authorization to Advertise: RFP PC25-37 Hauling of Ash. (Kim Rivas/ Commissioner Conley)] I'M SORRY. MOVE TO ITEM THREE. AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE ROP PC 25 DASH 37 HAULING OF ASH. SO REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR RFP PC 25 DASH 37 HAULING OF ASH ADVERTISING DATES OF AUGUST 2ND AND AUGUST 9TH. ANTICIPATED OPENING OF AUGUST 26TH. AN AWARD DATE OF SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025. THIS IS FOR PRECINCT ONE. OKAY. MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER CONY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE VOTE. MOVE TO ITEM FOUR ON [D.4. Authorization to Advertise RFP PC25-38 Brush Grinding. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)] AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 38 BRUSH GRINDING. SO I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE R-F-P-P-C 25 DASH 38 FOR BRUSH GRINDING. UM, FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER, THIS IS ANTICIPATED TO ADVERTISE ON AUGUST 2ND AND AUGUST 9TH WITH AN ANTICIPATED OPENING OF AUGUST 26TH AND AWARD DATE OF SEPTEMBER 8TH. OKAY. MOTION MAY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SECOND BY COMM. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM [D.5. Accept I Reject / Renew PC25-26 Road Signs & Related Materials. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)] FIVE. ACCEPT, REJECT, RENEW PC 25 DASH 26 ROAD SIGNS AND RELATED MATERIALS. WE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES FOR PC 25 DASH 26 ROAD SIGNS AND RELATED MATERIALS. THEY WERE FROM CUSTOM PRODUCTS CORPORATION, THE INCUMBENT VENDOR SIGN SOLUTIONS, U-S-A-L-L-C, CENTER LINE SUPPLY INC. NEWMAN SIGNS INC. OSBORN AND ASSOCIATES AND LIDLE ENTERPRISES OF OHIO. IT IS RECOMMENDED THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AWARD THE BID TO CENTER LINE SUPPLY INC. AS THE BEST VALUE AND LOWEST BID BASED ON SHIPPING COSTS CENTER LINE SUPPLIES LOCATED IN GRAND PRAIRIE AND IS THE LOWEST BID ON THE MOST LINE ITEMS WHILE ALL THE OTHER VENDORS ARE LOCATED OUTTA STATE AND THE SHIPPING COSTS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT. A SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL CHARGE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLLEY. ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM [D.6. Approve the salvage/destruction of a Bulletproof Vest. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)] SIX ON APPROVE THE SALVAGE DESTRUCTION OF A BULLETPROOF VEST. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO DESTROY A BULLETPROOF VEST THAT HAS EXCEEDED THE MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY OF FIVE YEARS. IT'S ASSET NUMBER 2 0 1 6 1. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. I'M SORRY, HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH, MOVE TO DOWN TO ITEM SIX. A SEVEN. NUMBER SEVEN. SEVEN. I'M SORRY. I SCRATCHED THROUGH SEVEN. AND WHY DID THAT, UM, MOVE [D.7. Accept donation of firearms to the Parker County Sheriffs Office. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen)] TO ITEM SEVEN AND ACCEPT DONATION OF FIREARMS TO THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ACCEPT THE DONATION [00:15:01] OF A NINE MILLIMETER AND A THREE 80, UM, FIREARMS FROM JOHN WHITE TO THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE DOWN TO ITEM [6.A. Presentation by Holmes Murphy on insurance updates for Parker County including return on investment analysis with partnership with PEBC. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)] SIX A ON PRESENTATION BY HOLMES MURPHY ON INSURANCE UPDATES WHERE PARKER COUNTY, INCLUDING RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND ANALYSIS WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH PEBC. BECKY. GOOD MORNING. UM, I KNOW I, YOU KNOW, GET UP HERE AND TALK A LOT ABOUT INSURANCE AND THIS YEAR I'M GONNA COME UP HERE AND I'M GONNA HAVE SOME BACKUP WITH OUR CONSULTANTS. SO JUST MAKE SURE Y'ALL DON'T THINK I DON'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP. UM, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS. NOW BEFORE WE START THE BUDGET TALKS, UH, KINDA LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH PBC INTRODUCING, UM, DAVID GIBSON FROM HOLMES MURPHY. HE IS A ONE OF A TEAM OF NEW CONSULTANTS THAT WE STARTED WORKING WITH WITH PBC ON JANUARY 1ST. UM, PBC IS A CO-OP WITH PARKER COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY, TARRANT COUNTY, AND THE TOLLWAY. UM, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE BY HIS PRESENTATION HOW WE REALLY BENEFIT FROM THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. PBC CONSISTS OF A BOARD, AND AS YOU ALLALL KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A BOARD SEAT, BUT THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT IS RIGHT UNDER THE BOARD AND I DO SERVE ON THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. SO FOR PRETTY MUCH THIS ENTIRE YEAR, I'VE SPEND ONE DAY A WEEK, EITHER AT COG OR ON TEAMS MEETINGS WITH HOLMES MURPHY, UM, LOOKING AT OUR PLAN, REALLY TAKING A FRESH EYES APPROACH AT THE PLAN. HOW CAN, WHAT CAN WE IMPROVE UPON? WHAT'S GREAT. UM, ANYWAY, SO WITHOUT FURTHER, DAVE DAVID GIBSON. ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. HAPPY MONDAY. UH, GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THIS MORNING. I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE HEALTHCARE COSTS AND JUST, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, THAT BECKY SPOKE TO THE VALUE OF BEING PART OF THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT COOPERATIVE LOCALLY. SO MY JOB IS TO ASSIST BECKY AND THE OTHER PEPC MEMBERS IN JUST COMING UP WITH STRATEGIES ON HOW TO MITIGATE COSTS FOR HEALTHCARE. YOU KNOW, HEALTHCARE IS, UM, IS TREND COSTS FOR MEDICAL AND PHARMACY IN PARTICULAR, UM, ARE GOING UP CONSIDERABLY THESE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING PART OF THIS COOPERATIVE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST NOTE FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING, UH, THE PLAN IS SELF-FUNDED. UM, SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE, UH, THE COSTS ARE PAID FOR BOTH THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE EMPLOYEE'S CONTRIBUTIONS VERSUS A TRADITIONAL PLAN WHERE YOU GO OUT AND BUY INSURANCE. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN MANAGING THE COST. SO WE'RE GONNA START A LITTLE BIT WITH THE TREND INFORMATION. WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THE MEDICAL PLAN. THERE'S MEDICAL CLAIMS AND THERE'S PHARMACY CLAIMS, AND THEN ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE, UH, THE MEDICAL TREND LOOKBACK SINCE THE LAST FOUR YEARS. AND, UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SQUIGGLY LINE ARE THE ACTUAL COST PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH FOR THE MEDICAL COMPONENT. AND, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE HISTORICAL TREND FOR THAT COMPONENT IS LESS THAN 1%. IT'S 0.5%, WHICH IS GOOD. UM, THE ACTUAL COST THAT YOU'RE SPENDING FOR MEDICAL ONLY PORTION OF THE PLAN IS $981 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH. AND THAT'S HOW WE DO, WE BREAK IT DOWN ON A PER EMPLOYEE LEVEL FIRST, AND THEN WE, WE GROSS THAT UP BASED ON EXPECTED HEAD COUNT. NOW YOU'LL NOTICE THE ROLLING 12, THE R THE R 12, WHICH IS THE RED LINE, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. AND THAT IS A FUNCTION OF SOME LARGE CLAIMS. I WON'T GET INTO A LOT OF THAT, THAT KIND OF DETAIL, BUT IF YOU CAN KIND OF SUM UP WHAT DRIVES HEALTHCARE COSTS, IT'S USUALLY TWO COMPONENTS OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. IT'S LARGE CLAIMS AND IT'S SPECIALTY PHARMACY COST. AND THOSE ARE ALL THESE DRUGS THAT WE SEE WHEN WE TURN INTO NETWORK TV. AND YOU SEE EVERY OTHER AD IS A PRESCRIPTION AD. IT'S, IT TAKES A WHILE TO REALIZE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PRESCRIPTION AD, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY THE TYPE OF CLAIMS THAT ARE COSTLY. AND WE'RE TALKING SOME CASES DRUGS THAT ARE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. UM, AND MEMBERS ARE KIND OF SHIELDED FROM THAT SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY PAY A COPAY OF PERCENTAGE OF THE COST. BUT THAT IS DRIVING A LOT OF THE COST. WE'LL GO OVER THE PHARMACY PART IN A MINUTE, BUT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT LARGE CLAIMS, YOU'RE TALKING, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT TWO DOZEN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSIDERED LARGE CLAIMS AND THAT DRIVES THE COST FOR THE WHOLE POPULATION. THAT'S KIND OF THIS POOLING CONCEPT, IF YOU WILL. ANY QUESTIONS ON MEDICAL ONLY TREND? NOPE. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE IS SOMETHING WE CALL THE PAST COVERAGE LEVEL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TRACK THIS INFORMATION AND THEN SEE WHERE IT IS FROM A PERCENTILE PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU AGGREGATE ALL THE DATA AND SHOW WHERE THINGS ARE RUNNING THAT YOU'LL SEE THE ACTUAL, WHICH IS THAT PURPLE LINE 9 81 THAT WE WENT OVER A MOMENT AGO. AND THEN [00:20:01] WE, WE SHOWED PERCENTILES AS THE, THE 50TH PERCENTILE. ALL THAT MEANS IS 50% OF THE TIME THE COST WILL BE ABOVE THAT LINE. 50% OF THE TIME WILL BE BELOW THAT LINE. THE, THE RED LINE IS THE, UM, 75TH PERCENTILE AND THE AQUALINE IS THE 25TH PERCENTILE. SO WHAT WE TRY AND DO IS SEE HOW THINGS ARE RUNNING AND TRY AND NORMALIZE THEM TO GET TO THE BEST COST. 'CAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TAKE THE LAST 12 MONTHS WHERE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LARGE CLAIMS AND THEN JUST PROJECT THAT FORWARD. SO THAT'S OUR PROCESS TO GOING THROUGH THIS. UM, YOU CAN SEE RECENTLY THAT PURPLE LINE IS AGAIN, ACTUAL RUNNING A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE 75TH PERCENTILE, BUT THEN OVER THESE LAST, UH, NUMBER OF YEARS YOU'VE RUN BELOW THE 50TH PERCENTILE AND THE 25TH PERCENTILE. ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. JUST KEEP GOING. UH, PHARMACY'S THE NEXT COMPONENT, AS I MENTIONED, ISOLATING JUST THE PHARMACY ONLY COSTS JUST THOSE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT I SPOKE TO. AND JUST LIKE ON THE MEDICAL, THE, THE PRESCRIPTIONS ARE REALLY DRIVEN BY ABOUT TWO TO 5% OF THE TOTAL SCRIPTS THAT ARE DISPENSED. SO VERY SMALL NUMBER AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE MEDICATIONS THAT PEOPLE NEED. UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS, THESE ARE ACTUAL PAID, WE'LL GET INTO THE NET HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT THE SAME PROCESS COSTS OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS AT R 12 ROLLING 12, THAT'S THE LAST 12 MONTHS OF CLAIMS ARE RUNNING AT 21% OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN ABOUT 14 POINT, UH, 3% PHARMACY RUNS AT ABOUT A 10% CLIP JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSIVE MEDICATIONS AND UTILIZATION. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 35% OF THE TOTAL COST. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WE'RE BACK ON THAT IN A MINUTE. YOU'LL SEE THE VALUE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE 35% OF OUR TOTAL COST OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE BUCKETS ABOUT 12 TO 15% ARE ADMINISTRATION AND THEN WE TAKE THAT RE REMAINING PORTION. 35% IS PHARMACY, 65% IS THE MEDICAL COMPONENT. THE MEDICAL WOULD BE WHEN YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL OR YOU'VE GOT A BROKEN ARM THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. THAT'S A ME CONSIDERED A MEDICAL CLAIM. AND THEN PHARMACY IS JUST THAT. IT'S THE PRESCRIPTIONS THAT YOU GET EITHER THROUGH YOUR DOCTOR OR MILLER. YES, SIR. SO GOODRX, SOME OF THESE DISCOUNT PROGRAMS, DO THEY ASSIST IN LOWERING THAT COST OR IS IT COST TO PASS ON TO US? UM, THEY CAN, THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE PLAN, SIR, OF GOODRX. UM, YOU HAVE WHAT'S CALLED DISCOUNTS OFF AVERAGE WHOLESALE PRICE THAT ARE BUILT INTO YOUR PHARMACY CONTRACT FOR THIS COLLECTIVE GROUP. YOU'VE GOT FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR SEVENTY EMPLOYEES, BUT YOU'RE PART OF PEBC, WHICH HAS 13,000 EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVELY BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND TARRANT COUNTY, ALL THE GROUPS THAT BECKY MENTIONED. SO YOU'RE BUYING COVERAGE FOR A 13,000 LIFE GROUP. SO YOU GET SOME VOLUME ADVANTAGES, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN, IN A, IN A MOMENT. OKAY. UM, AND SO THE PHARMACY PAST COVERAGE LEVEL, THE SAME PROCESS LOOKING AT PERCENTILES AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU'RE A LITTLE, YOU'RE RIGHT AT THE 75TH PERCENTILE, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PAST HISTORY YOU'VE RUN AS LOW AS THE 25TH PERCENTILE FOR SOME PERIODS OF TIME. CERTAINLY BELOW THE 50TH PERCENTILE, WHICH IS WHERE WE'D EXPECT THINGS TO BE SO LITTLE HOT THESE LAST 12 MONTHS. BUT THERE'S SOME VALUE AGAIN TO THIS PARTICIPATION IN PEBC. THE NEXT SLIDE IS, YOU'LL SEE THIS NOTE NET OF REBATES, PHARMACY REBATES THAT ARE PART OF YOUR CONTRACT FOR EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THOSE BRAND DRUGS AND SPECIALTY MEDICATIONS. IF THE COUNTY GETS BACK PHARMACY REBATES, THE AVERAGE DOLLAR PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH IS JUST OVER $200, WHICH IS GREAT. THAT'S PART OF BEING PART OF THIS 13,000 LIFE CAREER. SO THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU FACTOR THAT IN THE HISTORICAL TREND IS NEGATIVE 17%. SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU, YOU GAIN A LOT OF VALUE BY BEING PART OF THIS, THIS LARGER GROUP THAN PURCHASING BY YOURSELF. NEXT SLIDE. AND WE'LL BRING THAT IN HERE JUST A SECOND. UM, AND THEN IF YOU COMBINE AGAIN, THE MEDICAL PLAN IS THE MEDICAL CLAIMS AND THE PHARMACY CLAIMS, IF YOU BRING THOSE TOGETHER, YOU CAN SEE THE COLLECTIVE WEIGHTED AVERAGE FOR, UM, FOR THIS GROUP, YOUR HISTORICAL TREND IS, WHICH IS THAT AQUA OR THAT I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A GOLD LINE, IS 3.1% OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROLLING 12, THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE, UH, WITH THE PHARMACY REBATES INCLUDED IS 24% AND THEN YOUR ACTUAL IS 12 9 12 85 IS, IS WHAT THE ACTUALS ARE. THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THAT MEDICAL COMPONENT AND THE PHARMACY COMPONENT 9 81, WHICH I MENTIONED BEFORE. AND 3 0 4 IS 1285. SO THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NOPE. OKAY. SO LET'S GO OVER THE, UH, THE ROI RETURN ON INVESTMENT [00:25:01] FOR THE PEBC CONTRACT. AND REALLY PAGE 12 IS THE SUMMARY. THIS IS EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE COST THAT, UM, WHAT THE COST WOULD'VE BEEN HAD YOU PURCHASED YOUR COVERAGES ALONE AS PART OF YOUR 470 EMPLOYEES VERSUS GOING AND PURCHASING THROUGH A GROUP WITH 13,000 UM, EMPLOYEES. SO THE, THE FIRST COLUMN REFLECTS THE A SO FEES. OUR INDUSTRY, WE LIKE TO USE A LOT OF ACRONYMS. IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES ONLY. THAT'S BASICALLY THE COST TO ADMINISTER THE PLAN THROUGH BLUE CROSS. AND, UM, THAT COST ACTUAL WAS $187,000 IS WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FOR THIS YEAR BASED ON THE HEAD COUNT. AND YOUR BENCHMARK WOULD'VE BEEN, WHAT YOU WOULD'VE EXPECTED TO PAY A LOAN WOULD'VE BEEN $250,000. SO THAT SAVES YOU 63,000. THE STOP-LOSS PREMIUMS, WHICH IS INSURANCE ON THE LARGE CLAIMS. SO ANY LARGE CLAIM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WILL BE ULTIMATELY REIMBURSED BACK TO THE COUNTY. AND, UM, THE ACTUAL COST IS 709, $709,000. WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN IS ABOUT 747 PHARMACY REBATES, WHICH I MENTIONED BEFORE BASED ON YOUR HEADCOUNT, YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, YOU DID RECEIVE A, YOU WILL RECEIVE 1,000,001 IN PHARMACY REBATES AND YOU WOULD EXPECT TO GET AROUND $445,000. AND THEN LASTLY ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PREMIUMS, SOME SLIGHT SAVINGS THERE WHEN WE ADD IT ALL UP, THE SAVINGS THAT THE COUNTY IS GETTING IS $795,000 BY BEING PART OF THIS LARGER GROUP. AND YOU'RE PAYING $47,000 AND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GROUP. AND THE ROI IS, UH, 15, ALMOST 16 TO ONE. AND THE, THE NEXT FEW PAGES ARE JUST THE BACKUP ON HOW WE GOT THERE, WHICH IS ALL REASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. AGAIN, WE'RE JUST COMPARING WHAT YOUR COST WOULD WOULD BE STANDING ALONE VERSUS WHAT WE KNOW THEY ACTUALLY ARE, UM, AS BEING PART OF THE PEC ARRANGEMENT. ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW Y'ALL GOT A LOT ON YOUR AGENDA AND I SHOW UP WITH, UH, THIS INFORMATION. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. AND CERTAINLY BECKY, SHE'S THE EXPERT AS WELL. WE CAN HELP ANS ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT THAT WE ARE, UH, IN A VERY GOOD POSITION TO BE MEMBERS OF, OF, UH, PEBC AND, UH, WHOEVER IN THE HISTORY. I I DON'T KNOW, GEORGE, YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN, YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN HERE THEN, BUT WHOEVER IN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHEN THEY JOINED THIS, IT WAS THE BEST, IT WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO PARKER COUNTY ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE SIDE. SO, UH, I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, CONTINUING ON, UH, WITH, WITH THE ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PARKER COUNTY BY BEING A MEMBER IS THE, UH, YEAH, THERE'S POWER IN, IN NUMBERS OBVIOUSLY IN THE INSURANCE WORLD AND WE, UH, WE ARE BENEFITING FROM THAT AND HAVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN IN PEBC? ANYBODY KNOW? OH GOSH. I THINK 2010. YEAH, I THINK 2010. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY INTERESTING DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH PEOPLE AT DALLAS COUNTY AND TARRANT COUNTY AND DENTON AND, AND THERE'S TIMES WHEN I JUST THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA COME TO AN AGREEMENT. BUT IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS SHOCKING TO ME SOMETIMES HOW, OR, AND ALSO THE TOLLWAY AUTHORITY AND THINGS GET POINTED OUT, HEY, THIS WAS A BIG WIN FOR YOUR COUNTY, SO WE NEED TO GO THIS WAY SO OUR COUNTY CAN WIN TOO. AND I THINK SO MANY TIMES I SIT THERE AND SAY, WELL, PARKER COUNTY'S GONNA WIN NO MATTER WHICH WAY WE GO. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF HERE ON FOR SUPPORT. BUT, UH, I THINK HOLMES MURPHY, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE BROUGHT FRESH EYES AND BROUGHT AN AMAZING TEAM. AND WHEN THEY OFFERED TO COME OUT AND TALK TO TO COURT, I WAS LIKE, YES, PLEASE. AND SO, AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY DID THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. 'CAUSE WE DO GET QUESTIONS SOMETIME OF WHY DO YOU CO-OP WITH THOSE OTHER COUNTIES? WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO IT ON YOUR OWN? AND SO WHEN I SAW THIS, I THOUGHT THAT THAT VERY CLEARLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK, UH, WHAT IT DOES FOR US IS CUSHION. YES. PROVIDE CUSHION. ABSOLUTELY. AND I REMEMBER, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE, HEARING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, UH, FROM THE COUNTY AND, AND WHAT YOU'D HEAR ALMOST EVERY YEAR WAS THERE'S GONNA BE A GIANT INCREASE IN, IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS AND IN COST OF THE COUNTY AT BUDGET TIME OVER, OVER THE, YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL PERIODS THERE. SO THIS PROVIDES THE CUSHION THAT WE, UH, THAT WE BENEFIT FROM GREATLY. SO THANK Y'ALL. YEAH, I'LL ALWAYS TELL THE STORY THAT WHEN I FIRST CAME TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY, IT WAS MY JOB TO PAY THE INSURANCE CLAIMS. AND I CAN REMEMBER, AND IT'S BEEN ALMOST 17 YEARS, GETTING AN INSURANCE BILL AND THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH MONEY IN INSURANCE ESCROW TO PAY THE BILL. AND SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE'VE GROWN. I'M LIKE, THERE'S NO ONE, PROBABLY MORE [00:30:01] PROTECTIVE OF OUR FUND BALANCE, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON THOSE KIND OF FUND BALANCES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S VERY DELICATE TO DO YOU ASK FOR AN INCREASE OR DO WE POSSIBLY JUST WANNA GO INTO RESERVE? AND SO FAR FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE SAID WE'RE GONNA GO INTO RESERVE AND WE'VE YET TO GO INTO RESERVE. SO, AND AGAIN, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN, IN COMING SESSIONS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE DONE DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US OVER ALL THE YEARS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BECKY. I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, UH, PBC MEETINGS AND IT WAS AWFUL. . IT'S DEFINITELY SOME DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES IN THE ROOM. , YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES NOW. THOSE DALLAS PEOPLE OR . WELL, I JUST WANT TO TELL BECKY THANK YOU FOR WHAT I'M, I'M SEEING HERE IS FAIRLY GOOD NEWS BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THIS IS PROBABLY IN PREPARATION FOR THE GIANT RATE INCREASE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, BUT APPARENTLY NOT. IT'S, IT'S GOOD NEWS. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANKS YOU BECKY. WELL DONE. BECKY, THANK AND THANK YOU GEORGE FOR HELPING MY RELATIONSHIP ON THE RTC WITH MY DALLAS MATES. YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. WOW. WE MOVED TO ITEM SEVEN [7.A. Discuss/ Approve utilizing current part-time funds in Department 560 to hire up to 2 part-time dispatchers. (Mark Arnett/ Judge Deen)] A GLAD I COULD HELP ON THE DISCUSSION APPROVED UTILIZING CURRENT PART-TIME FUNDS IN DEPARTMENTS FIVE 60 TO HIRE UP TO TWO PART-TIME DISPATCHERS. MORNING MARK BARNETT SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE THE, UH, OUR PART-TIME FUNDS. WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, A BOND CLERK ANYMORE. OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE TAKEN OVER THOSE DUTIES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE JAIL. WE'RE DOWN. UH, WE JUST HIRED, WELL, WE'RE ABOUT TO HIRE TWO DISPATCHERS FOR RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THREE OPENINGS AND WE EXPECT ANOTHER TWO OR THREE OR FOUR DISPATCHERS TO LEAVE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS, UH, TO GO TO OTHER DISPATCHING JOBS. SO THIS WOULD, WE WOULD UTILIZE THESE FUNDS PAYING IN A RATE OF $28 AND 15 CENTS AN HOUR, UH, TO HIRE UP TO TWO PART-TIME DISPATCHERS TO COVER THE, SOME OF THESE SHORTAGES. I'M JUST REQUESTING PERMISSION. OKAY. POST AND MARK. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HILL AND COMMISSIONER O CONNELL. I DON'T, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. THAT'S ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED FIVE VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARK. JUST THOUGHT FOR THE LONG TERM, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER OR A QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCENTIVIZE BETTER RETENTION IN THAT DISPATCHER? I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT JOB. WELL, THE HEAR HORRIBLE THINGS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM DURING BUDGET, WE COULD ACTUALLY, WE COULD DISCUSS, GIVE A HARD LOOK TO THAT INCREASED PAY SCALE, THANK YOU. TO GET THE PAY UP. UM, ONE THING THAT THESE DISPATCHERS ARE LEAVING FOR ARE 12 HOUR SHIFTS. WE, WE WORK OUR SHIFTS THREE, UH, EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS AND, UM, THREE OR FOUR OF 'EM ARE LEAVING TO GO TO WORK AT AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE A 12 HOUR SHIFT. UH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE IF THE COUNTY EVER DECIDES TO GO THAT WAY. UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE PAID OVERTIME TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES. A SMALL AMOUNT OF PAID OVERTIME, EVERY PAY PERIOD. BUT WE COULD DO THE 12 HOUR SHIFTS IF WE GET THE, UH, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL WE'RE REQUESTING IN THE BUDGET. AND, UH, WE REMAIN FULLY STAFFED. YEAH. WE'LL BE LISTENING VERY CLOSELY TO THAT DISCUSSION. AND ALSO, WHAT ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE STRESS INVOLVED, WHAT ABOUT A SUPPORT PROGRAM OR ONGOING, I DON'T WANNA SAY COUNSELING, BUT SOME TYPE OF SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT THAT'S OFFERED OUT THERE IS IF, IF ANY WE, THERE, THERE IS. I MEAN THE COUNTY HAS THE, THE, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? ? YEAH. THE, UH, THEY HAVE THAT. AND THEN, UM, ANYTIME THERE'S A STRESS STRESSFUL INCIDENT OR A A CRITICAL INCIDENT, UH, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT PROVIDES TO OUR EMPLOYEES FOR OF CHARGE CRITICAL STRESS DEBRIEFING FOR ANYBODY INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THAT'S ALWAYS OFFERED TO THOSE PEOPLE. I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IN ON, IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE THEY'VE DESCRIBED THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF HAVING TO REPLACE AN EMPLOYEE OF, OF LOST PRODUCTIVITY, ET CETERA. IF YOU HAVE A WAY TO ATTACH ANY DOLLAR FIGURES TO THAT TYPE OF TURNOVER, IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARK, I GOT A QUICK QUESTION. DO WE KNOW WITH THE NEW, THAT NEW BILL THAT PASSED OR IS IT NO TAX ON OVERTIME? DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THE NET PAY FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS IF THEY'RE TALKING OVERTIME? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE IRS HAS PUT OUT THE GUIDANCE YET ON IT MM-HMM . BUT JUST WITHIN MY ASSOCIATION, THE UNDERSTANDING IS, IS WE WILL STILL TAX THE OVERTIME AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE THAT AS A DE ON WHEN THEY'RE FILING THEIR TAXES. MM-HMM . IS WHEN THEY'LL GET THAT BACK. AND THAT MAY CHANGE ONCE WE GET MORE GUIDANCE. YEAH. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD AS OF RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE THAT, WE'RE STILL GONNA TAX IT. OKAY. UNTIL WE GET FURTHER GUIDANCE. WELL THAT MAY BE GOOD IF WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE [00:35:01] NUMBERS 'CAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD NEED MORE, MORE MONEY IN THE POCKET OF THE INDIVIDUALS POTENTIALLY. YEAH, WE'VE, AS FAR, IF YOU RUN THE NUMBERS AND NET IT OUT, I MEAN WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN OVER 600 HOURS OF PAID OVERTIME OUTTA DISPATCH SO FAR SINCE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED OUR USE. YEAH. THE PROBLEM I GOT NOW IS PEOPLE GET TIRED. YEAH. AND THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO WORK ANY OVERTIME. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. THEY JUST WANT THEIR TIME OFF. GET BURNED OUT. MM-HMM . YES SIR. THAT'S FOR SURE. BIG ISSUE. THANK YOU, MARK. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO [7.B. Approval and presentation of Investment Report. (Becky McCullough/ Judge Deen)] ITEM B ON THE APPROVAL AND PRESENTATION OF INVESTMENT REPORT, BECKY. ALL RIGHT. SO PER PFIA, I HAVE TO TURN IN AN INVESTMENT REPORT QUARTERLY TO BE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I ACTUALLY SEND, I SUBMIT MY REPORT MONTHLY. UM, SO I'M VERY COMPLIANT IN MY INVESTMENT REPORTS, BUT I DO LIKE TO PRESENT THEM AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR. UH, SO ANYWAY, SO HERE WE GO. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I ALWAYS SUBMIT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE MONTH OF THE REPORT WHEN IT'S GONNA BE REPORTED. AND THEN I'LL ALSO SEND A BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING THAT'S PER INVESTMENT. I HAVE PERCENTAGES ON 'EM TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M WITHIN OUR POLICY OF HOW MUCH MONEY THAT I CAN PLACE WITH A VENDOR. MY STRATEGY, SINCE I TOOK OFFICE, HAS REMAINED THE SAME OF HOW DO YOU BALANCE YOUR LIQUID CASH BUT ALSO PUT LAYERS OF PROTECTION IN FOR THE COUNTY FOR YEARS TO COME. RIGHT? SO IF YOU EVER HAVE ANOTHER COVID WHEN RATES DROP DOWN TO ZERO, WHAT HAVE I PUT IN PLACE TO WHERE THE COUNTY CAN STILL GET INTEREST FOR YEARS TO COME? SO HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. YOU KNOW, RATES BEING ZERO IS NOT A GOOD THING. BUT ANYWAY, UH, SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT I'VE DONE. UH, THE NEXT, I ALWAYS SUBMIT AN INTEREST STATEMENT THAT JUST SHOWS THESE ARE THE INTEREST DEPOSITS THAT GO STRAIGHT INTO PULLED CASH, WHICH IS THE GENERAL OPERATING ACCOUNT. SO FOR THIS YEAR, WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT IN, UH, ALMOST $6.4 MILLION IN INTEREST. UM, SINCE I TOOK OFFICE, UH, WE HAVE BROUGHT IN $19,389,000. SO THAT IS A COMBINATION OF MONEY BEING LIQUID IN THE POOLS. THAT IS A GREAT THING. OKAY. THE, THE POOLS FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS AMAZING. WE GET 4.4 IT COMPOUNDS DAILY AND THAT'S INVESTED IN ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO I DO DIVERSIFY INTO TWO DIFFERENT POOLS. SO I DO BUSINESS WITH TEXAS CLASS AND I DO BUSINESS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES WITH THEIR LOGIC PROGRAM. BOTH OF THOSE ARE EITHER 4.4 OR 4.1. THE NEGATIVE SIDE TO THE POOLS IS IF RATES GO DOWN, YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY GONNA SEE THE POOL RATE GOES DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE BASED ON THAT FEDERAL FUNDS RATE. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, IT STAYS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE POOLS, BUT IF WE GET LIKE A A, YOU KNOW, HALF POINT PERCENTAGE DECREASE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE POOLS GO DOWN AS WELL AS WHEREAS AS WELL AS THE BANK, AS I, YOU KNOW, OUR DEPOSIT DEPOSITORIES WITH PLAINS CAPITAL BANK, OBVIOUSLY WE KEEP ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK TO COVER EXPENSES AND THEN A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TO OFFSET SERVICE CHARGES. SO I DO WHAT I CALL A $0 TARGET BALANCE IN THE BANK. SO THAT MEANS EVERY NIGHT IF WE NEED MONEY, IT PULLS FROM A SWEEP ACCOUNT. IF WE HAVE EXCESS MONEY IT SENDS TO THAT SWEEP ACCOUNT AND THAT'S 4.15 THAT WE GET AS WELL ON THAT. SO, SO FAR SINCE WE MOVED TO THAT $0 TARGET, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SERVICE CHARGE. SO I THINK THAT'S VERY NICE TO SAY THAT WE'RE EARNING INTEREST ON AS MUCH MONEY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. JUST, JUST A QUESTION. SO WE HAD 8 MILLION IN UH, FISCAL YEAR 24 AND YOU'VE GOT 6.3 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR. IS THAT ANTICIPATED OR IS THAT THROUGH THROUGH RIGHT NOW? THAT'S THROUGH RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YEAH, THROUGH RIGHT NOW. UM, THE OTHER PART OF PFIA OBVIOUSLY IS MAKING SURE THAT THE MONEY IN THE BANK IS COLLATERALIZED. OURS IS COLLATERALIZED AT 110%. I ALWAYS PUT A COPY OF THAT REPORT IN MY INVESTMENT REPORT AS WELL. I ALSO DO STATEMENTS FROM INSURANCE ESCROW BECAUSE WHAT WE ALSO DO IS WE SWEEP INSURANCE ESCROW INTO, UM, THEIR OVERNIGHT CDS IS WHAT THE SWEEP ACCOUNTS ARE TO GET THAT 4.15 AS WELL AS THE MAJORITY OF FUND BALANCE OF INSURANCE ESCROW SITS IN INVESTMENTS. SO INVESTING MONEY ON INSURANCE ESCROW IS VERY IMPORTANT. 'CAUSE WHEN WE ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF COST INCREASES ARE WE LOOKING AT, WE LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF INTEREST HAVE WE ALSO MADE ON THAT MONEY AND THAT CAN HELP OFFSET INSURANCE PREMIUMS IN BUILDING THAT FUND. SO THEN MY FINAL STRATEGY IS THE LADDER STRATEGY. WHERE I BUY, UM, TREASURIES AGENCIES, I GO OUT TO THREE YEARS. I TYPICALLY ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST TWO TO 3 MILLION MATURE EVERY MONTH. ON MONTHS THAT WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS LIKE AUGUST AND FEBRUARY. I TYPICALLY WILL [00:40:01] PUT MORE MATURITIES IN THOSE MONTHS. SO IF WE NEED IT, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE OF REVENUE OR MONEY THAT I CAN BRING IN TO PAY THOSE BILLS. AND SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S A PROTECTION FOR THREE YEARS THAT EVEN IF RATES WERE TO TANK, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PRESSURE FROM WASHINGTON IS TO REDUCE RATES, THOSE ARE SET IN STONE. OKAY. MOST OF MY, UM, FIXED INCOME INVESTMENTS ARE NOT CALLABLE. I HAVE A FEW CALLABLE AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT IF RATES DROP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M GETTING A HIGHER RATE AND IT'S IN A CALLABLE INVESTMENT, THEN THEY COULD CALL IT. BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO GIVE ME MY INTEREST PAYMENT. THEY STILL HAVE TO GIVE US ANY CAPITAL. IT'S NOT A BAD THING. IT JUST MATURED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN WHAT IT IS. AND SO, AND SOME PEOPLE WILL ASK ME, WELL WHY DON'T YOU JUST PUT ALL THE MONEY IN THE POOL? YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GETTING 4.4 IN THERE, WHY WOULD YOU LADDER IT OUT? WELL, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN JULY, SO I HAVE $19 MILLION IN JULY THAT WE ARE GETTING INTEREST PAYMENTS ON. OKAY. AND SO WHEN I TAKE THE INTEREST PAYMENTS FROM THAT 19 MILLION AND I ADD IN THE, UH, DISCOUNT THAT WE GET BACK AT MATURITY 'CAUSE SAY I BOUGHT A MILLION DOLLAR TREASURY, BUT MAYBE I ONLY PAID $950,000 ON IT. SO WHEN IT MATURES, WE ALSO GET THAT $50,000 BACK. IF I ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER ON THAT 19 MILLION, MY INTEREST PAYMENT ON THAT 19 MILLION IS MORE THAN IT WILL BE THE INTEREST PAYMENT FROM THE POOL ON A $90 MILLION INVESTMENT. SO IS THAT EVERY MONTH? NO, BUT JULY'S A REALLY GOOD MONTH, SO , I DO TRY TO PUT EXTRA MATURITIES INTO JULY TO GET READY FOR THOSE AUGUST DEBT PAYMENTS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. $20 MILLION WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD OTHERWISE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER HALE HAS MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE. OH, THANK YOU. BECKY. MOVE TO ITEM [7.C. Approve updates to Broker Dealer List for Investment Opportunities. (Becky McCullough/ Judge Deen)] C ON APPROVE UPDATES TO BROKER DEALER LIST FOR INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES. BECKY. UM, AND I DO WANNA DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF THE LIST THAT I SUBMITTED IS CORRECT. I HAD TWO LISTS IN FRONT OF ME AND I'M THINKING I SUBMITTED ACTUALLY THE WRONG ONE. SO FROM TIME TO TIME I DO LIKE TO UPDATE MY BROKER DEALER LIST. UM, I'LL REMOVE PEOPLE THAT WE NO LONGER DO INVESTMENTS WITH. UM, SO RECENTLY WE HAD SOME FINAL MATURITIES AND SO I'M NOT GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH THAT COMPANY ANYMORE, SO I'M REMOVING THEM FROM THE LIST. AND ALSO THIS GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME COMPANIES TO THE LIST THAT ALLOWS ME TO GO HAVE SOME, SOME MORE FORMAL CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR AUTHORITY TO POSSIBLY DO BUSINESS WITH THEM IN FUTURE. AS WE SEE NEW BONDS GOING OUT FOR ELECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE READY FOR THAT STUFF NOW SO I'M NOT SCRAMBLING AT THE END. SO, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR AND I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I SUBMIT THE CORRECT LIST. UM, THE BROKER LIST IS TEXAS CLASS RW BAIRD, UM, FNC, TEXT POOL PLAINS CAPITAL BANK, HILLTOP SECURITIES, FIDELITY, NATIONAL FINANCIAL SERVICES, LOGIC, AND TECHSTAR. AND SO AGAIN, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE COURT HAS THAT CORRECT RECORD. OKAY. MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FIVE OH, THANK YOU. MOVE TO ITEM D, [7.D. Deny payment to Frontier Communications in the amount of $536.91 for Claim Number TXDP2487715. (Commissioner Conley)] DENY PAYMENT TO FRONTIER COMMUNICATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF 5 36 91 FOR CLAIM NUMBER TX DP 2 48 7 7 15. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER A. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM [7.E. Discuss and take action on the county applying for the 2026-27 Round XIV grant cycle of the Texas Historic Courthouse Preservation Program (THCPP) and take any related actions. (Commissioner Holt)] E, DISCUSS TAKE ACTION ON THE COUNTY APPLYING PER THE 20 26 27 ROUND X ONE V GRANT CYCLE OF THE TEXAS COURTHOUSE PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND TAKE ANY ACTION RELATE RELATED ACTIONS. JUDGE, UH, MARK LONG SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THIS AND WE SPOKE WITH KIM REVIS AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE APPLIED TO IN THE PAST AND I I DIDN'T HAVE A TON OF CLARITY ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO APPLY FOR THIS AGAIN. KIM, CAN YOU PROVIDE ANY INPUT BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WITH MARK? SO, UM, IN 2002 WE APPLIED FOR THIS, I BELIEVE, UM, IT WAS PRE PRE MY TIME AT THE COUNTY AND IT WAS AWARDED AND THEY DID A COMPLETE RESTORATION OF THE COURTHOUSE AT THAT TIME. UM, AND THEN WHEN WE DID THE ROOF REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENT IN THE COPPOLA'S AND AND SO FORTH, WE ALSO HAD TO HAVE HISTORIC FILE PERMIT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE GRANT FUNDS FROM THAT FOR THAT PERIOD. UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I MEAN I, IT DOESN'T HURT TO APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL KINDS OF, UH, THINGS SINCE WE'VE HAD A RECENT, UM, INTERIOR, [00:45:01] UM, RENOVATION AS WELL. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL WE COULD SUBMIT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE DONE. UM, MARK WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WE REPLACED THE CHILLER, UM, RECENTLY, SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE IN THIS BUILDING. SO THE WINDOWS, THE WINDOWS COULD BE ALL REPLACED? YES. YEAH. SO WHAT COULD DO IS HAVE MARK COORDINATE WITH OUR GRANT RIDER WHO IS IN THE, THE AUDIENCE HERE. YES. AND TO EXPLORE THIS OPTION THEN. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA YEAH, JUDGE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK THE COURT FOR APPROVAL TO DO IS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THIS GRANT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. THAT COULD APPLY. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WINDOWS ARE THAT, IS THAT A MOTION? YES, I, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL. YOU THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. CURIOUS. , MOVE TO ITEM F, DISCUSS, [7.F. Discuss and take action on creating a drone committee for Parker County. (Commissioner Holt)] TAKE ACTION ON CREATING A DRONE COMMITTEE FOR PARKER COUNTY. SO Y'ALL KNOW HOW I LOVE COMMITTEES. UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T, BECKY. SO, UH, JAMES GAYWOOD PULLED ME ASIDE AFTER ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET COMMITTEES WHEN WE HAD NOTICED THAT DRONES ARE GETTING VERY EXPENSIVE AND THERE'S ALSO MORE AND MORE REGULATIONS AROUND DRONES. JAMES PRESENTED SOME CONCERNS AROUND WHERE THOSE DRONES ARE PURCHASED FROM THAT, UM, IF DRONES ARE PURCHASED FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES, THERE COULD BE LEGISLATION DOWN THE ROAD THAT PROHIBITS THE USE OF THOSE DRONES. UH, SPECIFICALLY DRONES PURCHASED FROM CHINA. AND SO HIS STRONG RECOMMENDATION AND, AND HE SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON IT OR JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE MIGHT HAVE, HIS STRONG RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD OVERSEE THE PURCHASE OF THE DRONES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BUYING ONE HERE AND ONE THERE AND BUYING ONES THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COURT IS THAT WE CREATE SUCH A COMMITTEE WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH CONSTABLE'S OFFICE SINCE IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY HAVE THE DESIRE TO USE THOSE DRONES AS WELL AS ONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND UH, IF, UH, IF I'M NEEDED ON THE COMMITTEE, I'LL, I'LL VOLUNTEER SINCE IT'S MY IDEA. BUT IF, IF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FEELS LIKE THEY CAN COVER IT, I DON'T SEE MR. ARNETT ANYMORE. UM, WITHOUT ME THEN I'M HAPPY NOT TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL. YEAH. BETWEEN KAYWOOD AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND ALL THEM, THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. BUT YEAH, IF THEY NEED YOU, SURE THEY CAN GET YOU. SO THAT'S MY MOTION OR MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT ON THAT. THERE'S ALSO, THOSE OPERATE UNDER FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION REGULATION. IF LAW ENFORCEMENT USES THEM, THEN THEY HAVE TO ALSO PUT AN ANNUAL REPORT OR SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT INTO THAT AGENCY AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL REGULATIONS ON THOSE AS WELL FOR EVEN FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES BECAUSE OF THE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. AND, AND JOHN BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT. THERE'S ISSUES AROUND, HEY, IF YOU FLY OVER SOMEONE'S BACKYARD, ARE YOU MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FLY OVER THEIR BACKYARD CAMERA'S NOT ON ALL SORTS OF COMPLIANCE STUFF THAT THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO PUT SOME PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO TACKLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT EXPOSING THE COUNTY TO A LOT OF LIABILITY. YEAH, I THINK THE, THE MAIN OUTCOME IS GONNA BE COMING UP WITH PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU ARE OPERATING. SO THAT'S THE MOTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE RECORD SHOW THAT THAT ALSO WITH COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S COMMENT ON ESTABLISHING THOSE PROCEDURES. I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON PAPER CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM G ON APPROVE THE [7.G. Approve the Interlocal Agreement with the City of Aledo for road repairs in Precinct Four. (John Forrest/ Commissioner Hale)] INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF LIDO FOR ROAD REPAIRS AND PRECINCT FOUR. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, STATE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CARIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM H. [7.H. Discuss/ Approve Addendums to Municipal - County Contract for Road Repair with the City of Aledo and Precinct Four and take any action the court deems necessaiy. (John Fo!Test / Judge Deen)] DISCUSS APPROVED ADDENDUMS TO MUNICIPAL COUNTY CONTRACT FOR ROAD REPAIR WITH THE SEAT OF BOLETO AND PRECINCT FOUR. AND TAKE ANY ACTION OF COURT DEEMS NECESSARY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CARRIED FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM [7.I. Discuss and Approve the Interlocal Agreement between Parker County and the City of Reno for dispatch services through the Parker County Sheriffs Office and take any action the court deems necessary. (John F01Test / Judge Deen)] I DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PARKER COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BOLETO FOR THE DISPATCH SERVICES. THE PARKER COUNTY'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND TAKE ANY ACTION ACCORDING TO THESE NECESSARY. JOHN AND I VISIT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DISPATCH WITH RENO. THEY'VE NEGOTIATED THE PRICE AND WE JUST NEED APPROVAL. OKAY. MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SAVED BY COMMISSIONER HALE. THE OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. CARRIE MOVE TO ITEM J ON ADOPT [7.J. Adopt 2026 Sheriff and Constable Fees. (Lila Deakle / Judge Deen)] 2026 SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE PS LALA. UM, I DID NOT BRING THAT WITH ME. THERE'S VERY MINOR CHANGES. UM, SO, UM, THE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF HAVE REVIEWED IT. UH, JUST DIDN'T BRING WITH ME. I CAN SEND THAT TO Y'ALL. UH, BUT MY JOB IS TO SIMPLY REPORT IT TO [00:50:01] THE STATE. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL ON PAPER CARRIES FIVE OH. INTERVIEW WOULD JUST BE AVOID AND SEND THAT. OH, I'LL EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE TODAY. OKAY. UH, ITEM EIGHT ON ACCEPTING [8. ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES] OF THE MINUTES UNDER ITEM A, PARKER COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER DEPARTMENT COURTROOM REPORT, ITEM B EXECUTED TYLER EUNICE MOBILE ASSET AMENDMENT ITEM C EXECUTED ORDER OR DASH 21 APPLICATION FOR TOP LINE CUSTOM CONTRACTING PERMISSION TO CANCEL 0.04 ACRES FROM LOT TWO BLOCK TWO FROM A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS SHALE VILLA IN PRECINCT TWO. THE RECORDS SHOW THAT THOSE ARE ACCEPTED INTO THE MINUTES. TAKES US TO ITEM [9. EXECUTIVE SESSION] NINE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1 AND OH SEVEN TWO OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE RESERVING THE RIGHT FOR COMMISSIONERS TO MEET CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS UNDER ITEM A, THE EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSION MEETING WITH PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1 2 AND 1 2 9 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CONSULT WITH AND SEEK ADVICE FROM ITS ATTORNEYS REGARDING ITEM A, THE ACTIVE LAND COMMISSION DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF HARTFORD COUNTY ITEM B, LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO TEXAS COUNTIES. AND ITEM C, ANY OTHER MATTER DESCRIBING THE MEETING AGENDA UNDER ITEM BEADS. UPDATE, DISCUSS PARKER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND JAIL AND TAKE ANY ACTION COURT DES NECESSARY IN ITEM C TO TEST TAKE ACTION REGARDING PROPERTY LOCATED SEC OF NORTH OAK RIDGE AND RED EAGLE TRAIL IN HUDSON OAKS. RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE RECORD SHOW AT 9 52. WE'RE GONNA RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10 15 AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM NINE ON [9.C. Discuss/Take action regarding property located at SEC ofN. Oakridge and Red Eagle Trl, Hudson Oaks. (Commissioner Holt)] THIS ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ITEM A WILL TAKE NO ACTION UNDER ITEM B WILL TAKE NO ACTION. UNDER ITEM C, DISCUSS TAKE ACTION REGARDING PROPERTY. LOCATED AT SEC OF NORTH OAK RIDGE AND RED EAGLE TRAIL, HUDSON OAKS. JUDGE, I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PARCEL ONE APPRAISAL FOR THE FINAL OFFER IN PREPARATION FOR EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH OAK RIDGE DRIVE AND HUDSON AND RED EAGLE TRAIL IN HUDSON OAKS, TEXAS FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE OAK RIDGE ROAD PROJECT FROM US 180 NORTH TO MARY MARTIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OKAY, MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE, TEXAS. ITEM 10 [10.A. PRECINCT l] ON PLANTS UNDER ITEM A PRECINCT ONE. LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL READY THERE. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ IT. UNDER ITEM A ONE, PRECINCT ONE, APPROVE THE VARIANCE FOR DRIVEWAY DISTANCES AND NEW HOPE ROAD FOR A SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS HILLTOP ACRES AND PRECINCT ONE. UH, THIS IS JUST TO GET PER UH, APPROVAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY DISTANCE, UH, AND IT'LL SPEED LIMIT IS 35 MILES AN HOUR. THANK MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CARRIE FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS ARENA PLACE WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTS OF 2.20 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF GILIAN ROAD DEVELOPED BY ANTHONY S ER WITH WALNUT CREEK SUD IN PRECINCT ONE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THIS SUBDIVISION IS GONNA BE LIKE TWO LOTS. ONE LOT IS GONNA BE 1.10 ACRES THE LOT TWO, ONE OR TWO IS 1.10 ACRES AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, SHARED THE DRIVEWAYS. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 17. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10 PLATS? ITEM A PRECINCT ONE. ITEM TWO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AT 10 17. HERE. NONE. C NONE. WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 17 AND GO TO THE ITEM COUNSELOR. EVERYTHING GOOD FOR FINAL? UH, YES. PROPER NOTES. LET'S PLACE A NEWSPAPER LIST THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION OF PURPOSE. TODAY'S HEARING TAX CERTIFICATE WAS GIVEN AND IT INDICATES A ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING APPROVED PUBLIC WATER THROUGH WALNUT CREEK AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL OF THEY'VE MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. COMMISSIONER MAY, BUT COMMISSIONER CONLEY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM THREE AND ACCEPT A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR MAINTENANCE FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS VINTAGE OAKS. PHASE THREE IN PRECINCT ONE. THIS IS, UH, TO APPROVE THE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR, UM, VINTAGE OAKS PHASE THREE FOR $89,740 [00:55:02] FOR TWO YEARS TO EXPIRE ON SIX 20 OF 27. MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIED BY VOTE. MOVE TO ITEM B [10.B. PRECINCT 2] PRECINCT TWO. ITEM ONE. APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR GROUNDWATER STUDY AND THE SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS OXEN ACRES WITH TWO AC TWO LOTS CONSISTING OF 13.010 ACRES DEVELOPED BY SEVEN GILLIAN AND PRECINCT TWO. UH, THIS DR. UH, WELL WAS DRILLED ON 3 14 0 6. UH, THE UH, GMP WAS 20 AFTER 24 HOURS AND UH, LOOKS LIKE IT WAS LIKE 300 FEET DEEP. GIVEN THAT THIS IS FOR TWO LOTS, IT MEETS OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A WAIVER. BUSH MAY HOL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY DISCUSSION? PALM OF FAVOR. CURIOUS. FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR GROUNDWATER STUDY. THE SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS PATTON PARK IN THE TJ CITY OF WEATHERFORD WITH ONE ROD CONSISTING OF 4.178 ACRES DEVELOPED BY MARTHA WOOD JORDAN, JIM NORTON, BRIAN AND FELICIA PATTON IN PRECINCT TWO. UH, THIS WELL WAS DRILLED ON SEVEN THREE OF 2003, UH, WITH 20 PLUS GPMS, 15 FEET DRAWN, UH, DRAW DOWN IN ONE HOUR. SAME THING. GIVEN THAT IT'S ONE LOT, IT MEETS OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CARRIE PAVO. MOVE TO ITEM THREE. APPROVE THE VARIANCE FOR DRIVEWAY DISTANCES IN GREEN BRANCH ROAD FOR A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS PATTON PARK IN THE ETJ, CITY OF WEATHERFORD IN PRECINCT TWO. THIS ONE'S, UH, JUST TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THE DRIVEWAYS FOR, UH, THE SPEED LIMIT ON THAT ROAD IS 35 MILES AN HOUR. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY OF SUBDIVISION. BE KNOWN AS SEALED ACRES WITH ONE LOT CONSISTING OF 6.738 ACRES. DEVELOPED BY DONALD AND RITA MALDEN COMPANY TRUSTEE OF THE MALDEN FAMILY. A IRREVOCABLE TRUST IN PRECINCT TWO. UH, THIS ONE WAS DRILLED ON FIVE 11 2010, UH, WITH 12 GPMS AND 15 FOOT, UH, DRAW DOWN AFTER 0.5 HOURS. SAME THING. GIVEN THAT THIS IS ONE LOT, IT MEETS OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA. COMM UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE. ITEM FIVE. APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR GROUNDWATER STUDY IN A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS NICHOLS HILLS IN THE ETJ TOWN OF STER WITH ONE LIKE CONSIST OF 5.54, EXCUSE ME, FIVE ACRES, SEVEN ACRES DEVELOPED BY NICHOLS PROPERTY INVESTMENTS IN LLC IN PRECINCT TWO. THIS ONE IS A TYPICAL FOUR INCH CASE. PVC WELLS IN THE XI ZONE OF THE TRINITY. GROUP OF AQUA FIRES IN THIS RANGE IS A DEPTH OF 200 TO 260 IN TOTAL DEPTH WITH 10 TO 20 GALLONS PER MINUTE. MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF VAPOR MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM [10.C. PRECINCT 3] C PRECINCT THREE. ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE PARKER COUNTY SUBDIVISION RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PARKER COUNTY OSSF RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR QUINTANA ACRES FOR LOT ONE CONSISTING OF 0.969 ACRES IN PRECINCT THREE. SAID THAT IS GOOD. WE GOT ADEQUATE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. AND IN DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM D [10.D. PRECINCT 4] PRECINCT FOUR. ITEM ONE. APPROVE THE VARIANCE FOR DRIVEWAY DISTANCES FOR LOT ONE R AND LOT 45 R OFF OF JENSEN DRIVE IN SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS LAKE RIDGE RANCHES IN PRECINCT FOUR. AND THIS IS UH, APPROVAL FOR UM, WHITE SETTLEMENT ROAD. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS RIDGE HILL STATES WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTING OF 8.791 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF RIDGE HILL DRIVE BILL BY KENNETH AND SANDRA WALLACE AND JOAN ELLI WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT FOUR. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE LOT EIGHT R IS GONNA BE 4.793 ACRES AND LOT NINE R IS GONNA BE 3.998 ACRES. UH, THEY ARE HAVING A WELL AND IT WAS UH, GROUNDWATER WAS A WAIVED ON 6 23 OF 25. UM, AND WE SENT THE LETTERS OUT 23 LETTERS OUT AND PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER AS WELL. OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 23. IS THERE ANYONE [01:00:01] HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM D PRECINCT? FOUR. ITEM THREE HEARING ON SCENE ITEM WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 23 AND GO TO THE ITEM AND PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE COMMUNITY NEWS LIST. THE DATE AND TIME LOCATION PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL OF THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CURIOUS FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM THREE ON APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS LAMA AREA PHASE SEVEN WITH ONE LOT CONSISTING OF 5.349 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF SAN CENTRAL DRIVE DEVELOPED BY DUSTIN AND SUMMER WILKES WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT FOUR. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS ONE THEY ARE COMBINING LOSS 15 AND 16 UH, FOR THE HOA DUES SO WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY UH, TWICE ON THAT. UH, WE HAVE WELL AND IT WAS WAIVED ON 6 23 OF 25. WE DID PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND UH, WE DID NOT HAVE TO SEND OUT LETTERS 'CAUSE THEY WERE COMBINING ONCE. OKAY, WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 24 ON ITEM 3D PRECINCT FOUR. UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM PLEASE? HERE. DONE. SAY NONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 24 AND GO TO THE ITEM AND IMPROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN THE COMMUNITY NEWS LIST THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION, PUR AND PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL OF THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. ISSUE MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE. THANK BY COMMISSIONER COLLEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS ITEM ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH. MOVE TO ITEM FOUR. APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR GROUND MOTOR STUDY AND SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS LAGUNA VISTA ESTATES AND ETJ CITY OF WEATHERFORD WITH ONE LOT CONSISTING OF 1.794 ACRES DEVELOPED BY STEVEN GLICK IN PRECINCT FOUR. AND THIS IS FOR, UH, THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER. AND THIS WELL WAS GERALD ON 6 17 0 8 AND THE 20 GPMS WITH FIVE FOOT DOWN DRAW AFTER 0.25 HOURS. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FIVE VOTE. MOVE TO ITEM 11. ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 10 25. KAREN, WE HAVE ANY PLAT TO SIGN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.