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AT THAT NO NEW REVENUE[*This meeting was joined in progress* ]
[8.C. Consider and take action on an order calling a bond election in the County on November 4, 2025. (Judge Deen) ]
RATE, UM, IT REALLY DOESN'T CONSIDER IF YOU'VE HAD ANY INCREASES IN DEBT SERVICE.IF IT DOES, THEN IT, AS WE SAW LAST YEAR, IT BASICALLY REDUCES YOUR M AND O.
SO IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A BIG, UH, INS INCREASE PER, UH, CENTS OF THAT WOULD BE JAIL AND 5.40 CENTS OF IT WOULD BE JUSTICE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MESS UP.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ON THE PAGE WHERE IT BASICALLY SHOWS PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND EVALUATION WHAT THAT INCREASES.
UH, AGAIN, TO PASS THIS IS, WE HAVE TO BE DEFINITIVE ON THE AMOUNT, UH, TO LIST THAT.
AND I WANNA, UH, JUST OPEN THIS DISCUSSION UP.
IF, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, INDULGE ME TO DO THIS, UH, TO OPEN THIS THING FOR DISCUSSION AND ALLOW ME TO GET THROUGH THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT ON SOME CLARIFICATIONS AND, AND JUST SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THIS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT'S BEEN ON THAT COMMITTEE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM HERE, UM, LED BY, AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONER HALE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ON THAT AND, AND, UH, OUR DISTRICT CLERK, SHEENA, GILLIAN AND, AND OTHERS IN THIS ROOM.
UH, I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR THE HARD WORK AND, AND THE, HOW MANY, WHAT IT BEEN LIKE SEVERAL WEEKS, WAS IT, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS? IT'S BEEN A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
I IT TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN ISN'T, UH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DENYING THIS.
WHEN THE, THE, THE, WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE, UM, MY PREDECESSOR WAS CHALLENGED WITH THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION, TRYING TO KEEP AHEAD OF THE CURVE WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING, BUT YET HAVING A, A NEED FOR THIS AND HAVE HAD A NEED FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SO HE FACED THAT CHALLENGE OF HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THESE SEPARATE, BUT YET GET THESE THROUGH THE VOTER BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE NEEDS.
AND, AND THAT GROWTH NOW HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY SINCE THAT TIME.
AND SO THERE'S NO DENYING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE NEED FOR THIS.
I THINK THE FACT THAT IT GOES HAND IN HAND AS WE, OUR, OUR, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS, IS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE DO A GREAT JOB IN PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND GETTING THESE, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE OFF THE STREET, IF YOU WILL.
UH, AND, AND PUTTING THEM IN A, UM, PUTTING WELL, GETTING 'EM OFF THE STREET AND THEN HAVING A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE AT CAPACITY WITH THAT.
THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH ON THE JAIL SIDE.
FROM THE JUSTICE CENTER SIDE, THE VERY FIRST PRESENTATION I GAVE WHEN I BECAME COUNTY JUDGE, THAT WAS IN THAT PRESENTATION OF THE NEED AND DEMAND OF THAT, THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO.
AND EVEN GOING BACK, WHAT, NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO, THE DEMAND AND NEED WAS EVEN STILL THERE AT THAT TIME.
NOW WE'RE FACING A, ANOTHER DISTRICT COURT, UH, AN EXPANDED JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT WE'VE EXCEEDED CAPACITY ON OUR, OUR CURRENT, UH, SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, THEIR COURT SYSTEM.
AND SO IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY.
AND SO TO DO THIS AND TAKE THIS TO THE VOTER, IT, IT, IT NEEDS TO PASS IT, IT HAS TO BE IN THE BEST SITUATION TO PASS.
I DON'T THINK IN LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT WEATHERFORD, AN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, IS ALSO HAVING A BOND ELECTION, SAME TIME, UH, AND WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.
IT NEEDS TO, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A DESPERATE NEED THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE HAD FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, TO TAP THE BREAK JUST A MOMENT HERE, UH, IN THIS MEETING TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPTION.
DO WE CAN, DO WE, DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OFTEN REFERRED TO.
WE DON'T WANNA BE A FRESCO, IF YOU WILL, AND I'M GONNA BE VERY BLUNT, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME, UH, THAT BUILDING, THAT, THAT RENDITION OF THAT FIRST, THAT FIRST PICTURE OF THAT, UH, WHICH IS A, WE, WE CALL THIS THE GEM OF THE COUNTY WITH THIS, THIS COURTHOUSE.
YOU, YOU'RE PUTTING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BUILDING ANOTHER GYM, IF YOU WILL, THAT EVEN GOES BEYOND WHAT THIS IS.
AND, AND, AND THE RENDERING OF, OF, OF KIND OF MATCHING WHAT THIS DESIGN IS.
DO WE NEED THAT? DO WE NEED THAT TYPE THAT'S GONNA RUN THAT BOND AMOUNT UP? 'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THE TAXPAYER'S GONNA PAY FOR THIS.
AND YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT, OR WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT IT NEEDS TO PASS IF IT GETS ON THERE IN THAT BALLOT.
AND SO BOTH OF THESE NEED TO, TO GO TO THE VOTER AND PASS, BECAUSE IT, IT, IT CERTAINLY MERITS THAT THROUGH THE JAIL SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE SHIPPING OUT INMATES TO OTHERS, AND IT'S COSTING THIS COUNTY AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT DEBT SERVICE ALONE WOULD PAY FOR THE, FOR THAT OTHER, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
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CAN WE LOOK AT THIS AND SCALE THAT BACK TO A POINT TO WHERE I WOULD EVEN GO DOWN TO, IF YOU FACTOR IN AND, UM, MR. FOREST ON THE, SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE INFLATION AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE DID AND BUILT THE EAST ANNEX FOR $5 MILLION, CAN WE DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE RANGE OF A HUNDRED MILLION THAT WOULD GIVE US THE JU THE JAIL SYSTEM THAT NOT, I'M SORRY, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT WE NEED WITH THE, THE COURTS THAT NEED TO BE IN THAT BUILDING.CAN WE SCALE THAT BACK AND GET THAT NUMBER DOWN CLOSE TO A HUNDRED MILLION? I THINK WE CAN.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT HEAVILY.
AND I THINK RATHER THAN, 'CAUSE WHEN WE STARTED THIS, WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER THAT NO LONGER IS THE CASE, WHERE NOW IT LOOKS LIKE ONE MAY BE SOMEWHERE.
AND THEN, AND IF WE'RE GONNA GONNA DO THAT, WHY BUILD A JAIL WHEN WE HAVE A JAIL? AND WHY CAN'T WE NOT GO AHEAD AND RENOVATE THAT JAIL AND INCREASE CAPACITY AND, AND, AND BE A DRAMATIC DISCOUNT OR, OR LESS AMOUNT TO THE, TO THE TAXPAYER? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S GONNA BE PAYING FOR THIS.
AND SO I, I WANT THIS TO BE, AND I'M, I'M VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THIS, THAT WE NEED TO SCALE THIS BACK BECAUSE WE TAKE THIS TO THE VOTER WITH THESE NUMBERS AND THIS AMOUNT OF TAX INCREASE TO, TO WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE AND WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN JUST REFERENCED THESE NUMBERS AT.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE TO PASS, QUITE FRANKLY.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A, YOU GOT A SCHOOL BOND ON THAT SAME BALLOT.
UM, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, IS THAT, DOES THAT NUMBER REALISTICALLY, DOES THAT HAVE A CHANCE OF PASSING? I DON'T THINK IT DOES.
I DON'T THINK, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND THINK WE'RE PUTTING THAT KIND OF BUILDING, I THINK IF YOU GO TO A TOWN HALL MEETING, GIVE A PRESENTATION AND SHOW THAT FIRST PICTURE, AND THEY SEE WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT BUILDING? IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT CAN IT BE SOMETHING MORE CONSERVATIVE AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO THE TAXPAYER? WHO'S GONNA BE THE ONE PAYING FOR THIS THING? CAN WE SCALE THIS BACK AND BE MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH THIS? I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT HOOD COUNTIES, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT TAJ AL, BUT IT'S A FUNCTIONAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT WORKS.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT WAS, THAT THEY PAID FOR THAT BUILDING, BUT IT WORKED AND IT WENT AND PASSED AND GOT DONE.
AND, AND IT'S A VERY FUNCTIONAL COURT SYSTEM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON SCALING THAT BACK MORE THAN HALF AND DOING THIS AND LOOKING AT, AND, AND EXPANDING WHAT OUR EXISTING JAIL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY AND ACQUIRE WHATEVER ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES WE NEED TO MAKE THIS, IT INCREASES CAPACITY AND GET THIS AMOUNT DOWN DRASTICALLY BECAUSE, AND TO BE, AGAIN, BLUNT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CHANCE IN HEAVEN THIS IS GONNA GO TO THE VOTER AND PASS IN, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THEY'LL OPEN THIS SEPARATE DISCUSSION.
AND I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONCE, ONCE THAT DISCUSSION IS COMPLETE.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF COMMITTEE DID A LOT OF WORK WITHOUT A DOUBT.
WE, UH, KIND OF RUSH ON THE JAIL PORTION OF IT BECAUSE AS WE, AS THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING, UH, WE, WE BEGIN SENDING, UH, PRISONERS OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE JAIL IS OVER CAPACITY AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT BY STATE LAW.
UH, SO THE NEED COMES IN FOR THAT.
UH, IN ADDITION TO A JUSTICE CENTER.
THE JUSTICE CENTER WORK HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR PLUS THE JAIL PORTION HAS NOT, IT, IT IS COME IN LATELY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, MIKE, UH, IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS.
YEAH, I'D SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SAY APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS MAYBE.
FACTS DIDN'T THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY TRUE.
WHAT, WHAT IS TRUE THEN, GO AHEAD.
WELL, 'CAUSE I WENT TO THE MEETINGS A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
WE HAD, AND I TALKED ABOUT THE JAIL THEN.
I I'M JUST FORMALLY IT WAS JUST PUT OFF.
I THINK FORMALLY WE BROUGHT THAT INTO DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSIONER'S COURT HERE, BUT IT WAS TALKED ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE HAD A YEAR AGO.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, THEN I GUESS WE WERE SOMEWHAT WORKING FEVEROUSLY WITH THE, THE FOLKS THAT WE HAD EMPLOYED THERE TO DO THAT, TO COME UP WITH COSTS AND, AND, UH, THEY CAME UP WITH COSTS IN THE LAST 90, I MEAN, 60 DAYS OR 30 DAYS, PROBABLY THE LAST TWO MONTHS, PROBABLY THE LAST TWO MONTHS WHEN WE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE.
BUT HONESTLY, UNTIL LAST WEEK, UM,
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WE DIDN'T SEE, OR I DIDN'T SEE, Y'ALL MAY HAVE DISCUSSED IT PREVIOUSLY, BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL TAX IMPLICATION IS, AND THE TAX IMPLICATION IS THAT WE'RE AT 28.5, UH, 0.28507 FOR A TOTAL TAX RATE PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.AND THAT WOULD BE ADDING 0.0997, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A 25% INCREASE JUST FOR THESE TWO PROJECTS.
AND I, I'M NOT SURE THAT IN, IN KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY SAID THERE, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT GIVEN ALL THE NEED THAT WE HAVE, WITHOUT A DOUBT IN EACH OF THESE, EACH OF THESE, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TAX RATE INCREASE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THIS.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT EXTRA 10 CENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROUGHLY GEORGE, UH, FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOUSE IS GONNA BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR, YOU KNOW, A HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE GONNA BE 500.
AND NOT THAT WE DON'T NEED THESE AT ALL, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE THE, THE WISE THING FOR THIS COURT TO DO TO MAYBE JUST PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND WHAT THEY MIGHT BE, WE MIGHT COME BACK TO THIS SAME CONCLUSION.
BUT, UM, I, I, MY FEELING IS THAT, UH, TO ASK THE VOTER FOR A, A 10% INCREASE TO THEIR COUNTY TAXES IS, IS A HARD, HARD SELL AND A HARD ASK AND, AND PROBABLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN VOTING FOR.
NOW, I'M JUST, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I'M NOT VOTING, I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THAT'S MY OPINION.
WE'VE GOTTEN HERE TO THIS POINT.
HERE'S WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE TODAY.
AND, UM, I, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT WE NEED NEW FACILITIES IN MANY AREAS IN THE COUNTY, BUT HOW WE GET THEM WHAT THEY ARE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, YOU'VE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT THE FACILITY HERE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S A PRUDENT THING TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT, SEE IF WE CAN RESHUFFLE THE CARDS WORK AGAIN AND COME BACK WITH A, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE MORE, UH, IN LINE WITH THE PAST, UH, EXPENDITURES OF PARKER COUNTY.
GEORGE, I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
A HALF BILLION DOLLAR BOND IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.
WELL, TO, TO, TO PUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, GEORGE, IF I'M, IF I'M READING, UH, MY NUMBERS CORRECTLY HERE, THE TOTAL PAYOUT OF A 25, UH, YEAR PERIOD OF REPAYING THESE BONDS WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE $922 MILLION RANGE BY THE TIME YOU, UH, PUT THE INTEREST ON THERE AS YOU HAVE PROJECTED.
AND I REALIZE THAT THESE ARE HIGHEST, BUT, BUT WE'RE AT $922 MILLION YEAH, OVER 25 YEARS.
AND I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE INFLATION.
I RECOGNIZE THINGS COST A LOT MORE.
UM, BUT IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND RETHINK THIS.
SO IF WE, IF WE PUSH THIS BACK, 'CAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINST THE TIMELINE ON THE CALENDAR, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS ON THAT ONE AS FAR AS THE WAY THE STATUTES ARE WRITTEN? JOHN, WOULD THAT MEAN, WOULD WE EVEN HAVE THE OPTION FOR THAT EITHER OF THESE TO BE ON THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR? UH, NOT NEXT YEAR.
GEORGE'S GOT, IT'D BE RIGHT, IT'D BE TWO YEARS OUT THE, UH, BUT YOU HAVE TILL THE 18TH TO CALL IF YOU REORGANIZED.
SO YOU STILL HAVE YOU GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSS IT AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO BUILD, OR I STILL HAVE 18TH TO GET THIS CALL OF THIS MONTH FOR THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, MR. WILFORD, COULD YOU GIVE US, UH, MR. WILFORD, COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT? BE SURE THAT WE'RE AS, AS FAR AS THIS NOVEMBER 4TH, LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE TILL AUGUST 18TH.
SO THE COURT, AS LONG AS YOU COULD POST, UH, AND GET THE AGENDA, YOU COULD HAVE A SPECIAL, UH, MEETING BEFORE OR ON AUGUST 18TH EVEN, UH, TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
APART FROM THAT, THEN YOU'D BE LOOKING AT, UH, THERE'S STILL THE MAY, UH, DATE, BUT NOVEMBER OF 26, UH, AS, UH, THEN THE NEXT OPTIONS IF YOU DIDN'T, UH, HAVE AN ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER.
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BE, WOULD BE FEASIBLE.UH, NO, I'D HAVE TO NO, IT'S AN EVEN YEAR.
EVERY OTHER YEAR YOU CAN'T DO IT.
THAT'S SOME OF THE CLARIFICATION I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET TRIPPED UP ON.
AND THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT TRICK TO COUNTY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO MM-HMM
BECAUSE IT'S A VERY, VERY VAGUE DEAL.
BUT YEAH, EVERY OTHER YEAR YOU CAN'T USE THE MAY OPTION.
SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER OF, UH, 26 SAYS THE OPTION VERSUS THIS, THIS NOVEMBER.
AND IS THERE A STATUTE, CAN WE MAKE A DECISION IN A SPECIAL SESSION OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN A REGULARLY, REGULARLY SCHEDULED CALL AN ELECTION? YOU COULD DO THAT AT A SPECIAL MEETING.
YOU JUST CAN'T AUTHORIZE DEBT ISSUANCE AT, UH, ANYTHING OTHER THAN A REGULAR MEETING.
AND JOHN CAN CLARIFY THAT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
THANK, I APPRECIATE CHRIS DIDN'T HERE.
I WANT TO AGAIN, UM, REITERATE, IT'S NOT MY INTENT TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD FURTHER INTO ANOTHER, BUT TO DILIGENT WORK THROUGH THIS AND, AND TRY TO COME TO, UM, SOME COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENT ON SCALING BACK.
THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE MORE FEASIBLE TO THE, THE, THE VOTER, THE, THE CONSTITUENTS THAT'S GONNA BE PAYING FOR THIS THING AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND STILL CONTINUE AND HAVE THE, UH, THE GOAL OF TRYING TO GET THAT THIS YEAR AND HAVE THAT BECAUSE THE NEED, UH, WILL BE GREATLY MORE OR, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD, AS WELL AS THE COST OF THIS THING.
SO IT'S MY INTENT THAT WE SCALE BACK, NOT KILL IT, NOT PUSH IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT YET SCALE BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT IS, COULD BE FEASIBLE TO THE VOTER THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GO TO THEM, MEET THE NEED, BUT YET NOT DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING A, UM, A, A FACILITY OUT THERE THAT'S MAYBE MORERA THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, AND MORE ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYER, WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE A BURDEN AS IT IS NOW.
SO, AND AS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, I THINK SAID IT BEST IS, I MEAN WE, WE, WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS HERE.
YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, WE'RE LOOKING AT A A, A UPCOMING BOND, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT, BUT STAYING ON POINT HERE WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, WE HAVE NEEDS, UH, GREATER, NOT GREATER IN ADDITION TO THIS, UH, THAT INVOLVE THOSE STRATEGIC AREAS OF TRANSPORTATION, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ON THERE AS WE GROW, THEY GROW AND, UH, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE AND SEEING WHAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY FEASIBLE TO THE, TO THE VOTER AND WHAT, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GOTTA PASS.
IT'S, WE CAN'T GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA CROSS 'EM OUT OF THEIR HOME OR PUT 'EM IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAN WE SCALE BACK AND CAN WE MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IN OUR JAIL AND DO THESE THINGS, BUT YET NOT DO IT IN A WAY, UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE OVERLY EXTRAVAGANT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, BUT YET STAY ON POINT AND TRY TO STAY AND HAVE A BOND ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER.
I'D SAY WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.
I'D, I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IF Y'ALL WILL PERMIT ME.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT DISCUSSION.
I THINK IT'S OUR JOB AS COMMISSIONERS TO RAISE POINTS LIKE THIS AND POINT OUT THE IMPACT ON THE TAXES.
POINT OUT THAT A 10 CENT INCREASE IS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, TWO POINTS THAT COME TO MIND.
ONE, MR. WILLIFORD PUT IN THE NOTES HERE THAT FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE THEIR TAXES FROZEN, IT WILL NOT IMPACT THEM.
SO SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS, SENIORS, ET CETERA, WILL NOT BE IMPACTED IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR TAXES FROZEN.
THE SECOND THING IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BOND.
BONDS DON'T AUTOMATICALLY PASS BECAUSE WE GIVE THE VOTERS THE CHOICE.
AS A COMMISSIONER, I THINK OUR JOB SOMETIMES IS TO RAISE TO THE ATTENTION OF THE VOTER OUR NEEDS, INCLUDING WHEN THOSE NEEDS ARE BIG, INCLUDING WHEN THOSE NEEDS ARE TOUGH.
PARKER COUNTY HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE NATION OUT OF 3,126 COUNTIES.
WE'VE BEEN IN THE TOP 10, I THINK THREE TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
WE'VE OUTGROWN OUR HOUSE, WE'VE OUTGROWN OUR CAR, WE'VE OUTGROWN A LOT OF THINGS AND THAT'S GONNA HURT WHEN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
LET'S THINK ABOUT SOME AREAS WHERE ONE COULD ARGUE
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RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, MAYBE WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS AGGRESSIVE EITHER ON THE STATE LEVEL OR THE COUNTY LEVEL IN DEALING WITH FUTURE PROBLEMS. I KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS IN PRECINCT TWO SAY, HEY, WHY DIDN'T YOU, UH, MAKE RICK WILLIAMS IN THAT NEW LOOP? WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT TWO LANES EACH WAY? NOT A, NOT A BIG FAN OF IT BEING ONE LANE EACH WAY.AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME GOOD REASONS AT THE TIME WE DID SECURE THE LAND FOR IT.
BUT I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS RIGHT NOW WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE HAD BITTEN THE BULLET BACK THEN AND MADE IT TWO LANES EACH WAY.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY WHO WANTS TXDOT TO EXPAND THE INTERSTATE BY ONLY ONE LANE.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF ANYONE IN THE COUNTY COULD SAY, HEY, I'LL PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TAXES, BUT TDOT'S GONNA BE EXPANDED, OR THAT THE INTERSTATE'S GONNA BE EXPANDED BY A LOT MORE, I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY ALL SAY YES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAD THE CHOICE ON A BOND.
WATER IS AN AREA WHERE WE ARE FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER WALDEN ON THE HYDROLOGY COMMITTEE.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE UPPER TRINITY, ET CETERA, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE SEE HOW LIMITED OUR RESOURCES CAN BE.
WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER IS, YES, WE NEED TO LOOK HEAVILY AT THE SHORT TERM COST TO THE TAXPAYER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM COST.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING OR IF WE DON'T DO ENOUGH, WE'VE GOTTA WEIGH THOSE CAREFULLY.
AS I LOOK AT THE JAIL NUMBERS, WE RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION LAST YEAR.
WE PAID ABOUT 8 MILLION BUCKS FOR OUR CONTRACT RATE IN FISCAL 21 TO 22, 8 0.5 FOR THE JAIL LAST YEAR, 16.8.
THAT'S PROJECTED TO GO UP TO CLOSE TO 30 BY 2030.
OUR BUDGET CAN'T SUSTAIN THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE OUR JAIL IS OUT OF ROOM.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BEDS FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.
AND AS OUR POPULATION INCREASES, THAT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.
SO I FULLY AGREE WITH Y'ALL THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
I WANT TO CAUTION US TO TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK AT GIVING TAXPAYERS ALL OF THE CHOICES AND INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION THEY CAN.
WHICH MAY MEAN BITING THE BULLET RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA SET UP FUTURE GENERATIONS FOR SUCCESS.
WE'VE GOTTA WEIGH THE LONG TERM VERSUS THE SHORT TERM.
I'M NOT DENYING A 10 CENT INCREASE WOULD BE HUGE.
I THINK YOU HAD SOME GOOD POINTS THERE AND I APPRECIATE THOSE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE AS TWO INDEPENDENT PROJECTS.
THE JAIL, WHICH YOU REFERENCED AS OF THIS MORNING, WE'RE PAYING TO HOUSE APPROXIMATELY 50 OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THAT'S COSTING THE COUNTY DOLLARS EVERY DAY.
AND WHEN YOU SEE THE COST THAT THE JAIL STANDARDS AND THE LEVEL THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD THESE JAILS AND THE COST TO HOUSE THESE PRISONERS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING AND IS NOT GETTING ANY CHEAPER.
THAT IS NOT A TAJ MAHAL, THAT BUILDING, I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT WAS REFERENCED ON THIS COURT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT THAT JAIL IS NOT, AND THIS IS THE JAIL IS ONE PROJECT, THE JUSTICE CENTER, THE COURTS THAT WE NEED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH.
AND THAT'S BY STATUTE AND RECOMMENDED WITH THE DISTRICT COURTS.
AND I'M TOLD THAT IF WE ADD THAT ADDITIONAL COURT AND WITH OUR GROWTH, THAT WILL HELP EXPEDITE THESE CASES.
AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN TOLD, Y'ALL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 25 TO 30% EFFICIENCY POTENTIALLY TO HELP FREE UP AND GET TO OUR JAIL SPACE UNDER, UNDER CONTROL FOR THE SHERIFF AND FOR THE COUNTY.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.
THIS GOES TO THE VOTER AND THE VOTER NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE REALITY IS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
AND THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S TAKEN LIGHTLY BY NO MEANS, NOT BY ONE PERSON ON THIS COURT OR THAT'S WORKED ON THESE COMMITTEES.
'CAUSE WE ALL PAY TAXES AS WELL.
BUT I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP THIS IN MIND.
THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS,
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TWO SEPARATE VOTES THAT'LL BE IF IT COMES TO THE BALLOT THAT'LL BE VOTED ON.THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT ON COMMISSIONER.
I DID FORGET ONE QUICK ITEM THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING IN TARRANT COUNTY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE DISTRICT COURTS AVERAGE ABOUT 400 CASES ON THEIR, I GUESS YOU CALL IT THEIR DOCKET SHAINA.
WAS I RIGHT ON THAT? YES, YES.
IN PARKER COUNTY, WE'RE AT A THOUSAND.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT TAKES LONGER TO GET THOSE COURT, THOSE CASES PROCESSED THROUGH COURT, WHICH MEANS THAT THOSE FOLKS SIT IN PROCESSING AND SIT IN THE JAIL LONGER.
IT'S A TWO-SIDED PROBLEM THAT FEEDS EACH OTHER.
THIS FUNDAMENTALLY IS A LAW AND ORDER BOND ON BOTH SIDES.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A BIG ENOUGH JAIL TO GET THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS WHO NEED TO BE OFF THE STREETS.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A JUSTICE CENTER THAT'S BIG ENOUGH THAT CAN PROCESS ENOUGH CASES TO DELIVER JUSTICE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.
WHAT'S THE COST GONNA BE TO TAKE IT TO AN ELECTION FOR THE COUNTY? WHAT'S THAT COST? DO WE KNOW? JUST ROUGHLY A GUESSTIMATE.
UM, SOME OF IT IS OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE CERTAIN REQUIRED POSTINGS IN THE NEWSPAPER, SO ALL THE ADVERTISING, UM, IF THERE'S ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALLS, THE PRINTING LITERATURE, THAT SORT OF THING.
I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY BOND COUNCIL.
WE, THERE'S FEES ONLY IF THE BOND PASSES, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN WE DO THE DRAW DOWN AND FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND COUNCIL FEES ARE CONTINGENT UPON ISSUE.
SO FROM THOSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE COSTS THOUGH ANY JUST ANCILLARY OF, YOU KNOW, NEWSPAPERS, ADVERTISING.
AND SO THIS WOULD NOT BE TOWN HALL.
WOULD THIS ELECTION BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER ELECTIONS? IT WOULD BE CORRECT, YES.
I ITS NOT GUESS FROM THE BIG COST OF HAVING AN ELECTION, IT'S BIG COST OF AN ELECTION BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING AN ELECTION.
AND SO USUALLY, UM, THERE'S CERTAIN WHICH, UM, CRICKET WILL BE BRINGING BACK, BUT HOW WE DO THE ALLOCATION OF COSTS.
SO IF THERE'S OTHER, UM, ENTITIES HOLDING ELECTIONS, THERE'S AN ALLOCATION OF COST.
SO IF THE COUNTIES INCLUDED IN THAT, I GUESS THERE IS SOME ALLOCATION THERE.
YEAH, THERE ARE, BUT THERE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
AMENDMENTS, SO WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT ANYHOW, THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO BE VOTED ON NOVEMBER, I GUESS.
SO THE POINT OF IT IS WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION, THIS WILL JUST BE ON THE BALLOT, BUT THE COST IS WOULD, WOULD BE NORMALLY, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR CRICKET TO ADDRESS AND WILL ADDRESS.
BUT THIS IS NOT AN INCREMENTAL ADDITIONAL COST TO BE PUTTING THESE ON THE BALLOT.
I MEAN, AGAIN, OTHER THAN JUST SOME ADVERTISING.
UM, ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOWN HALL, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE AN ALLOCATION 'CAUSE OF THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN AS GEORGE BROUGHT UP, JUST THE CONTINGENT, YOU KNOW, FOR FINANCIAL ADVISING AND LEGAL COUNSEL.
IS THERE OTHER COMMENTS? SO WE CAN TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS AND THEN SCHEDULE A MEETING AND THEN DIG INTO THIS DRILL, INTO THIS FURTHER CORRECT, GEORGE, THAT WE CAN DO THIS.
WE, WE COULD HAVE, WE CAN HAVE A MEETING, SPECIAL MEETING MEETING AS OF AS LATE AS AUGUST THE 18TH, I THINK ON THE ELECTION.
I THINK GIVEN THE, THE, UM, IMPORTANCE OF THIS AND, AND RHYTHM JUST WETTING YOUR FINGER AND STICKING IT IN THE AIR AND PICKING A NUMBER OUT, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.
AND WE WILL HAVE THAT, UM, TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT CAN BE, UH, MORE OF A POTENTIAL FOR IT TO PASS AND LOOK AT IN MEETING THE NEEDS.
IT'S BEEN CLEARLY ARTICULATED WELL BY MEMBERS OF THIS COURT, UH, AGAIN, AS ATTENTION TO THIS COURT TO MEET THOSE NEEDS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH BOTH ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS AS TWO PROJECTS, AGAIN, HAS CLEARLY BEEN POINTED OUT FROM THE JAIL STANDPOINT AND THE GROWTH EXPANSION AND THE, AND THE CAPACITY INCREASES THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT FROM ALSO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
NOW WE DO WANNA MEET THOSE NEEDS.
IT'S THE INTENT OF THIS COURT TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AND DO IT IN THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CLOSELY RATHER THAN JUST, AGAIN, POINTING OUR FINGER IN THE, IN THE AIR AND JUST PICKING A NUMBER OUT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM UNLESS THERE'S ANY OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS, THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THAT.
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ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM THEN.BEAR WITH ME IN JUST ONE MOMENT HERE, PLEASE.
JOHN, CAN YOU HELP ME ON THIS? AND ON THE, UH, WHERE'S THAT AGENDA ITEM AT FOR THE, UH, HISTORIC COMMISSION? UH, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER HERE AND I'M GONNA GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
EIGHT A EIGHT A, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS.
[8.A. Discuss/ Authorize the County Judge to accept the Komatsu Architecture proposal for the site assessment at the Jim Wright House located at 202 West Oak Street, Weatherford, TX 76086. (Brenda McClurkin / Judge Deen) ]
ME ON THAT.I WANNA MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT A ON THE DISCUSS AUTHORIZED COUNTY JUDGE TO ACCEPT THE KOMATSU ARCHITECTURE PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE OF ASSESSMENT AT THE JIM RIDE HOUSE, LOCATED AT 22 2 0 2 WEST OH STREET, WEATHERFORD, TEXAS, THAT WE HAVE BRENDA MCCLARIN HERE, UH, FROM THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR, YOU JUST GOT THAT THERE ON ME SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UH, JUDGE, DEAN AND COMMISSIONERS OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION IS, UM, VERY PLEASED TO HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED THE SPACE AT THE JIM WRIGHT HOUSE.
AND WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH MARK LONG, THE BUILDINGS AND, AND GROUND SUPERVISOR OF ON, UH, WORK ON THAT HOUSE.
WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN SEVERAL REPORTS ON A COMPLIMENTARY BASIS, WHICH, UH, WAS, UH, SYNTECH ENGINEERING'S, UH, REPORT ON THE FOUNDATION.
AND THEN WE HAD A HOME INSPECTOR GO THROUGH THE HOUSE.
UM, INCLUDING, UM, BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ON UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE, BUT WE ALL, WE HAVE, UH, TALKED WITH TWO DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS.
UH, THEY'VE SPENT, UM, TWO HOURS A PIECE AT, AT THE HOUSE.
AND, UH, WE SOLICITED, UH, SITE ASSESSMENT PROPOSALS FROM BOTH.
WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, WE'VE PUT FORWARD THE KOMATSU ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURE PROPOSAL FOR A SITE ASSESSMENT.
IT WILL, UH, INCLUDE A SITE VISIT BY PRESERVATION ARCHITECT AND A HISTOR, UH, HISTORIC PRES, UH, PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.
THEY WILL GO THROUGH AND DO A SURVEY OF EVERYTHING THEY CAN SEE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET ON TOP OF THE ROOF.
UH, BUT THEY WILL GENERATE A, A REPORT WITH PHOTOGRAPHS AND EACH ITEM THAT THEY LOOK AT WILL BE EVALUATED BETWEEN, IT'S GOOD TO GO OR IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR SOMEPLACE IN BETWEEN.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO, UM, INFORM, UM, TO SUMMARIZE AND PRIORITIZE THE RECOMMENDED REPAIR AND RESTORATION TO THE HOUSE.
UH, AND THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS A GUIDE FOR THE COUNTY, UM, TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO PHASE THE RESTORATION WORK.
SO, UM, MR. KOMATSU, UM, IN HIS COVER LETTERS INDICATED WHAT AN HONOR IT WOULD BE TO WORK ON THIS HOUSE.
HIS FATHER HAD A 50 YEAR, UM, UM, FRIENDSHIP, UH, ENDURING FRIENDSHIP WITH THE SPEAKER.
UM, MARK, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT.
MARK, UM, UH, LONG HAS BEEN ADVISED OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG, AND HE'S VERY COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH KOMATSU, WORKING WITH KOMATSU AND ACTUALLY THROUGH THE, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM KOMATSU ARCHITECT WE FOUND, WE LEARNED THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.
THERE IS, UM, UM, A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY RIGHT HERE IN WEATHERFORD THAT SPECIALIZES IN RESTORING WINDOWS.
AND WE DID, WE HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY TO CURO, TEXAS TO FIND THAT OUT.
BUT, UM, THEY'RE VERY ANXIOUS.
THEY'RE VERY ANXIOUS TO WORK ON THE JOB.
SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING A, A GREAT TEAM TOGETHER TO DO THIS WORK.
UM, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR $13,847 FOR THE, UM, REPORT.
AND I WOULD, UM, REQUEST THAT WE ALSO GET THE, UH, PROVIDE FOR THE OPTIONAL ONE HOUR PRESENTATION OF THE REPORT FINDINGS TO THE COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT, OR TO WHOMEVER NEEDS TO SEE IT.
I DON'T HAVE, UM, A, A FEE FOR THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
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SAID FOR 13,000, THEY'LL TELL US WHAT ALL'S WRONG WITH THAT HOUSE.NO, WHAT THEY CAN VISIBLY SEE.
SO, BUT THEY HAVE THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY UNDERTAKEN AS, AS A BASIS FOR IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK, UM, AT THE EXTERIOR, THE WINDOWS, THE DOORS, THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR THAT THEY CAN VISIBLY SEE AND EVALUATE, UM, THE, THE NEED.
SO, SO WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S WITH THE WINDOWS? WHAT, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED? DO THEY NOT NOT FIT IN THERE, RIGHT? OR ARE THEY THEY ARE, THEY ARE IN VERY, VERY POOR CONDITION.
A LOT OF MISSING WOOD, DETERIORATED WOOD.
UM, THERE'S BEEN REALLY NO MAINTENANCE ON THEM, UH, FOR, FOR YEARS.
UM, MARK HAS HAD TO TAPE THEM, UH, TO KEEP THEM, TO KEEP THEM FROM, UM, UH, WELL, I KNOW IN ONE ROOM THERE'S A, A GAP, A WHOLE, UH, BOTTOM PLATE OF THE TOP PART OF IT, PLACE THE WOOD, THE, UM, THE, AND WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD, TOM, WOODY HAS TOLD US THAT, UM, OFTENTIMES THAT GLASS IS GOING TO BREAK IF THEY WERE TAKEN OUT TO, UM, TO BE, UM, REPAIRED.
SO, I MEAN, HE'S RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE REPLACED.
I THINK ALSO TOO, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN WE DID THIS, TOOK AND WELL TOOK POSSESSION OF THE, THE, THE HOME, AND WE MADE AN EXCHANGE WITH WEATHERFORD ON THIS, UH, WE AVOIDED A COST IMPACT OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE LOT THAT WE, WE TRADED FOR THIS WITH WEATHERFORD.
AND SO GOING INTO THIS, WE KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE COST ISSUES ON GETTING SOME UPDATES MM-HMM
AND SO THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT WE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT.
THAT WE WERE GONNA BE PREPARED FOR.
AND THIS IS NOW SIMPLY WHAT YOU'RE RIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WHAT WE WANT IS A PROFESSIONAL, UM, EYE ON THE PROJECT AND TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE IN WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW TO PHASE IT.
UH, WE FEEL I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY ANXIOUS TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE FUNDS IN OUR BUDGET, UH, TO PAY FOR THIS.
SO, UM, THE, THE MONEY IS THERE TO DO IT.
IT WOULD NOT BE, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR US TO PAY FOR IT.
WELL, NO, WE WANT, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE JUDGE TO BE ABLE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
MR. MCCLAR AND JUST, JUST FOR MY INFORMATION.
AND SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT BE LISTENING TO WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY, UH, IS THE HISTORIC STATUS OF THAT HOUSE IN, IN OTHER WORDS, I, I KNOW THE HISTORIC STATUS OF THE COURTHOUSE.
IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A MOMENT.
A, A REGISTERED TEXAS HISTORICAL LANDMARK, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND, UH, THE, THE SECOND, UM, SUBJECT MARKER, UH, SECOND MARKER.
A SUBJECT MARKER HAS BEEN APPROVED, UH, REGARDING SPEAKER WRIGHT.
AND THAT'S JUST BEEN APPROVED BY THE, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND WHERE THERE'LL BE ALLOCATING FUNDS TO, UM, UH, TO, UM, CREATE THAT MARKER.
AND WE WERE EXPECTING THIS, THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE HANDED TO US WITH NOTHING AT ALL TO DO TO IT.
AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE SOME COSTS, WELL, YES.
AND SO, UM, THE CITY WAS NOT A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND THE, THE EXTERIOR IS IN, THERE'S A LOT OF WOOD ROT, DETERIORATED WOOD.
IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, HANDLED, UM, PROPERLY.
AND, UM, BUT ANYWAY, THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A, THE BEGINNING, UH, STEP WHERE WE CAN REALLY GET SOME PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE.
OTHERWISE, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF SPINNING OUR WHEELS.
WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
DO, HAS ANYBODY BEEN UNDERNEATH THERE TO SEE THE, THE FOUNDATION OR THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE? YES.
AND YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WINDOWS.
IS THIS FROM SHIFTING AND, YOU KNOW, YES.
WE HAVE, WE, THE SYNTECH ENGINEERING GROUP.
AND I HAVE IT HERE WITH YOU, ME IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALSO, UM, THE HOME INSPECTION REPORT WAS DONE BY BRIAN LAWSON.
BOTH OF THEM HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS.
UM, TOM WOODY, WHO IS WITH JRJ CONSTRUCTION, HAS, UM, SUGGESTED, WELL, THERE'S BEEN SUGGESTING THAT WE LEVEL THE HOUSE.
HE FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD NOT BECAUSE, UM, FROM WHAT HE SEES ON THE SECOND FLOOR, HE SAID THERE'S NO CRACKS IN THE CEILING OR THE WALL.
UM, AND HE THOUGHT THAT BY DOING SO, IT WOULD, UM, CREATE FURTHER PROBLEMS. WHEN WHEN YOU SAY LEVEL, YOU DON'T MEAN BULLDOZE? NO.
JUST FOR ANYBODY ELSE IN NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT LEVELING.
YEAH, MR. HO FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT Y'ALL DO HAVE HAD THAT INSPECTED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION'S YES.
AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE JUST THE COSMETICS DONE AND STILL HAVE
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AN UNDERLYING WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S BIG ISSUE.AND THIS WAS A CIVIL ENGINEER, NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT DID IT.
BUT I'M GUESSING THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY KOMATSU WILL BE ABLE TO GUIDE US IN THAT DIRECTION TOO.
I KNOW THAT I THINK THE CIVIL ENGINEER SAID THAT WAS OUT OF LEVEL, A LITTLE OVER AN INCH ON EACH SIDE AND WAS RECOMMENDING A, A BEAM, UM, ADDITIONAL BEAM UNDERNEATH AND ALONG THE CENTER OF THE HOUSE.
BUT EVERYONE THAT WE'VE HAD LOOK AT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S REALLY STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
I MEAN IT, AND I KNOW, UM, UH, MARK LONG AND WE AGREE THAT THE, UH, PARTICULARLY JUDGING FROM THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE COURTHOUSE, WE NEED TO SECURE THE OUT EXTERIOR BEFORE WE START WORKING ON THE SURE.
BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE IT WAS ASKED WHO WAS PAYING FOR IT.
AND SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL, BUT THE COURT, UM, WHAT'S FUNDING THEIR BUDGET RIGHT NOW, UM, IS PRIMARILY THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND OF 35,750.
SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE COURT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR.
[8.D. Discuss/Approve making the current part-time clerk position in Department 474 into a part-time forensic death investigator position. (Traci Bennett/ Judge Deen) ]
I'M GONNA MOVE TO ITEM A D ON DISCUSS APPROVED MAKING THE CURRENT PART-TIME CLERK POSITION IN DEPARTMENT 4 7 4 INTO A PART-TIME FORENSIC DEATH INVESTIGATOR POSITION.TRACY, IF YOU WOULD COME OUT GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.
I'M HERE TO REQUEST TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO TAKE MY CURRENT PART-TIME CLERK POSITION AND CHANGE IT INTO A PART-TIME FORENSIC DEATH INVESTIGATOR POSITION.
UH, SO, AND I WOULD TAKE ON THE ROLE AS THE CLERK POSITION.
AND THEN WITH HAVING ANOTHER FDI, IT WOULD HELP US TO LIMIT THE COMP TIME AND ALLOW THE INVESTIGATORS TO HAVE TIME OFF, UH, FOR LIKE VACATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IT'S JUST KIND OF HARD COVERING THE SHIFTS AND STUFF.
AND WITH A PART-TIME PERSON, IT WOULD HELP US ALLEVIATE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WHEN, WHEN DID WE GIVE YOU THAT PART-TIME CLERK? 'CAUSE YOU JUST, LAST YEAR YOU TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE, THAT YOU REALLY NEEDED THAT CLERK.
UH, I HAVE TO PICK WHICH ONE'S MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN I HAVE TO GO WITH THE INVESTIGATOR SPOT AND I'LL TAKE ON, I MEAN, I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, SO FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
SO I'LL JUST TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL.
BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE DEATHS.
SO WE'RE SITTING HERE AT THE 11TH DAY OF AUGUST.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT MONTH AND A HALF LEFT, ROUGHLY IN OUR BUDGET YEAR.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO DO TODAY OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD WAIT UNTIL WE, UH, WE FINISH ADOPTING THE BUDGET? WELL, THE SOONER I CAN GET ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR, THE SOONER.
'CAUSE I'M ALSO PULLING SHIFTS TOO.
I'M, I'M DOING SHIFT WORK AND I'M PULLING 24 HOUR SHIFTS AND HELPING THEM OUT TO ELIMINATE THE COMP TIME AND THEN ALLOW, 'CAUSE I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THEM THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MAXED ON VACATION AND THEY CAN'T ACCRUE ANYMORE BECAUSE UNTIL SOMEBODY COVERS IT.
SO IF WE HAVE ANOTHER PART-TIME PERSON CAN GET 'EM IN SOONER THE BETTER AND GET THEM TRAINED, THEN UM, IT'LL ALLEVIATE NOT EVERYBODY HAVING TO WORK SO MUCH.
BECAUSE IF I HAVE ONE PERSON COVERING FOR ANOTHER PERSON, THEY'RE STILL GONNA GET COMP TIME.
AND I, I MEAN, AGAIN, I I, I'VE BEEN COVERING SHIFTS AND SO, UM, BUT I'M ALSO ONE PERSON TOO.
I MEAN, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IT ALL OUT WHERE WE'RE ALL DOING IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE BIGGEST THING IS I'M TRYING TO COVER ALL THE SHIFTS THAT WHEN THEY NEED SOMETHING OFF, BECAUSE THAT WAY IT ELIMINATES THEM EVEN ACCRUING ANY MORE COMP TIME.
THE, THE REASON I'M THROWING THAT OUT AT YOU IS, IS NOT TO BE, UH, COMBATIVE OR TO BE NO, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IS THAT, UM, I THINK THERE'S A, AN EFFORT PERHAPS TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN DOING SOME, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
COMMISSIONER YOU WANT TO TAKE A YEAH, SO, UM, FOR THOSE OF, OF, UH, OF Y'ALL LISTENING OR WATCHING THAT, THAT AREN'T AWARE, WE, UH, WE FORMED A BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT HAS HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS, DOZENS OF HOURS OF POURING OVER THE DETAILS.
AND IT'S TAKING A CLOSE LOOK AT ALL PERSONNEL AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES THAT ARE NEW FOR THE BUDGET YEAR.
AND THEN AS A FOLLOW UP, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH THE COURT THE IDEA OF, UM, TAKING A DEEPER DIVE ON A REGULAR BASIS ON SOME TYPE OF ROTATING BASIS INTO EACH DEPARTMENT.
AND THE GOAL ISN'T TO TRY TO MICROMANAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE GOAL IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT EVERYTHING
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WE DO ON THE COUNTY LEVEL IS FUNDED BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS.AND IF WE ARE NOT MEETING THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF EFFICIENCY WITH THAT, THEN WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT ROOM TO IMPROVE.
AND SO I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN IS GETTING AT, IF I'M READING HIS MIND CORRECTLY, WHICH IS A SCARY PLACE TO BE, HONESTLY, UM, I, I I THINK MAYBE THERE'S A DESIRE TO HOLD OFF ON THIS FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT YEAH.
AND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEADED TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA ASK THE COURT FOR THAT, UH, ASK IF YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL.
AND NOT JUST IN, IN, I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE STANDING HERE, BUT, UH, TO, TO DO A REVIEW PERIODICALLY OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY AND, UH, SORT OF, UH, AN AUDIT PER SE, UH, THAT WOULD PERHAPS HAVE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF COURT WORKING ON DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LONGER LOOK AT IT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU IF YOU HAD TO HAVE IT TODAY OR IF THIS COULD, COULD HOLD OFF JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UH, UH, RECOGNIZE THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, PERHAPS MIGHT BE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, HELP THE SITUATION IF THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT PAUSE.
I GUESS I GOT A QUESTION FOR BECKY THAT IF WE CHANGE THOSE TWO AROUND, IS THERE ANY COST TO THE COUNTY? SO THERE'S NO COST TO DO WHAT SHE'S WANTING TO DO? WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET A PART-TIME INVESTIGATOR FOR THE CLERK'S POSITION.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THAT.
I MEAN, I COULD TRY AND THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
YOU MEAN UNLESS YOU HAD LIKE ANOTHER 7,000? SO IS IT OR NOT, OR WELL, I MEAN, SHE'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS AT THIS TIME.
NO, I'M, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SAYING SHE MAY NOT THE FUTURE, BUT JUST TO GET IT POSTED, TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT BUDGET.
SO, SO WHAT WOULD THAT PART-TIME POSITION, HOW MANY HOURS PER WEEK OR PART 27 HOURS.
AND THEY CURRENTLY, THE PART-TIME CLERK POSITION IS 25,000 A YEAR.
I MEAN, LIKE SHE JUST SAID, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT I PROBABLY WOULDN'T ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE AT SOME POINT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IF WE LEVELED IT OUT, I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE AN EXTRA $7,000 ON TOP OF THE 25,000 TO GET A PART-TIME INVESTIGATOR.
'CAUSE INVESTIGATORS, IT'S JUST, I DON'T, AND WHEN I DO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN, I DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY QUALIFIED IN THIS, AND I USUALLY TRAIN THEM.
UH, SO THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT BECAUSE THE THE AREA'S GONNA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN, SO IF WE CHANGE THIS AROUND YES, SIR.
AND THEN IN A FEW MONTHS YOU COME BACK AND SAY, NOW YOU WANT ANOTHER CLERK.
WELL, I'M JUST, NO, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE IT ON.
WE'RE GONNA SAY NO, NO, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON MYSELF.
I I I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR SIX YEARS ANYWAY, SO, SO JUST SO FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, YOU DON'T HAVE A, CURRENTLY HAVE A PART-TIME CLERK? NO, SIR.
SHE HAD TO LEAVE FOR MEDICAL REASONS.
BUT, BUT I DO NOT, AS OF THE LAST PROBABLY MONTH.
AND SO I'VE TAKEN ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
SO IF IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES IT HURT TO DO IT? I'M JUST, I'M JUST GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION, SO, WELL, ME TOO.
I MOVE THAT WE ALLOW HER TO CHANGE IT IF THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY AND IF YOU COME BACK WANTING A CLERK, UH, YOU'RE NOT, NO, NO, NO.
I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THING I WOULD PROBABLY EVENTUALLY COME BACK ON IS THAT IF IT, I'M GONNA TRY MY HARDEST TO GET A PART-TIME INVESTIGATOR IF THAT'S ALLOWED FOR THAT $25,000 A MONTH.
THE, THE PROBLEM IS YOU GET WHAT YOU GET.
AND SO I WILL TRAIN THAT PERSON TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY ALONG WITH THE OTHER INVESTIGATORS.
SO IF WE GET THAT, IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY FOR THAT PAY IS ALL I'M SAYING.
SO I'M JUST SAYING AT SOME POINT, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT YEAR, IT MAY HAVE TO SEE IF I CAN RAISE THAT PAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM I'M GONNA HAVE, BUT I'LL DO WHAT I CAN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD PUT IN FOR, REQUESTED FOR 26, IF THAT WAS ADDITIONAL.
PERSONNEL OR ADDITIONAL NO SIR.
I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PERSON I SAW WHERE THERE WAS A PAY INCREASE.
I'M GONNA SECOND IT JUST TO STAY IN THE, UH, THE, UH, DISCUSSION MODE.
SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH TRACY REGARDING SCHEDULING OF THE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COMP TOM ACCRUALS AND JUST THE WAY THE PAY STRUCTURE IS FOR THIS OFFICE.
WHENEVER THIS POSITION CAME OPEN, THE CLERK, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT JUST CAME OPEN.
IT JUST IN THE, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISCUSSIONS.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A MEETING, UM, WITH TRACY, JOHN FORREST, COMMISSIONER HOLT AND MYSELF, THAT THIS COULD BE MAYBE SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WOULD CONSIDER DOING TO ASSIST TO KEEP COMP TIME NUMBERS
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DOWN.SO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, NO, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SORT OF A COST INCREASE IF SHE CAN EVEN GET SOMEBODY HIRED BEFORE THE NEW BUDGET STARTS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON SIDE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE.
OKAY, I'M GONNA MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT.
AND CHRIS, I WANT TO NO, NO, NO, DON'T GET UP.
I'M JUST, JUST APOLOGIZING THAT YOU'RE NEXT AFTER THIS ONE.
UM, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET YOUR HOPES UP.
[8.I. Discuss/Take action regarding posting Fire Marshal position. (Commissioner Walden) ]
MOVE TO ITEM I ON DISCUSS TAKE ACTION.REGARDING POSITION ON THE FIRE MARSHAL POSITION, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, I, I POSTED, UH, I ASKED FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
WE, UH, THE SHORT HISTORY IS OUR FIRE MARSHAL RESIGNED.
WE HAVE, UH, ASKED FOR AND, UH, VERY GRACIOUSLY BEEN GRANTED, UH, THE SERVICES OF ESD ONE TO FILL IN THAT POSITION.
BUT, UH, THAT CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE.
AND, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, HIRING FIRE MARSHAL, THAT PROCESS NEEDS TO BEGIN RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, UH, IN ORDER TO GET SOMEBODY IN PLACE BY THEN.
UH, JUST THE, THE SHORT END OF IT IS, UH, TODAY WE'RE SPENDING, UH, THAT CONTRACT I BELIEVE IS FOR $90,000 FOR WHAT WOULD BE ABOUT 90 DAYS.
AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY.
AND, UH, EXTENDING THAT ON OUT FOR THE YEAR.
THAT WOULD BE $360,000 PER YEAR, UH, TO PAY ESD ONE TO PROVIDE THOSE, PROVIDE THAT FIRE MARSHAL SERVICE.
AND, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, IT'S NOT PRUDENT USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE COULD, UH, UH, HIRE FIRE MARSHAL HERE, UH, WHO COULD ALSO, UH, UH, BE BENEFICIAL.
AND AS WE TRY TO FIT THINGS INTO THE BUDGET, UH, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS ASKED FOR, UH, HELP IN, IN, IN GETTING HIS WORK DONE AND, UH, GIVING US A, A LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND SO IF WE, IF WE HAD A FIRE MARSHAL, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST IN THAT.
SO, UH, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, POST THE POSITION OF FIRE MARSHAL FOR PARKER COUNTY.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WAL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'M GONNA SECOND IT SO WE CAN GET TO THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF THIS FURTHER DISCUSSION IN, UH, CAN THE ESD ONE SERVE THOSE SAME, SAME THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE PURPOSE THAT THE MR. WATSON, CAN Y'ALL HELP? THEY ARE CURRENTLY FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN READING WHAT Y'ALL BEEN DOING.
YOU'VE BEEN SENDING US REPORTS AND TO ME, I, I MEAN THAT'S A, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING ON.
UH, AND IF I MAY APPROACH THE DICE, I, I'VE GOT A ACTIVITY REPORT THAT WAS EMAILED TO YOU ALL THIS MORNING.
YEAH, I READ THAT THIS MORNING.
BUT, SO WHAT WOULD A FIRE MARSHAL COST US DO? BECKY DO WE KNOW PROBABLY ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING NOW, BUT, BUT THEN THERE'S MORE TO RUN HIS OFFICE, RIGHT.
THE, THE PREVIOUS, WHICH WAS A COMBINED, YOU KNOW, POSITION WAS PAID, I BELIEVE RIGHT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND SO FACTOR IN BENEFITS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 130, 135,000 FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS THAT WE WOULD BUDGET FOR.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER COSTS.
I THINK THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR FIRE MARSHAL IS THREE THREE, IT'S 385.
I KNOW THAT THAT DOES INCLUDE A OFFICE MANAGER THAT CURRENTLY IS BUDGETED UNDER FIRE MARSHAL THAT REALLY TECHNICALLY SHOULD BE UNDER THE EOCS BUDGET.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CORRECT SINCE IT WAS A COMBINED.
SO IT'S GONNA BE BEFORE WE'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION FOR FISCAL 26 6 TO THE SAME THING.
IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT,
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COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY? YEAH, GO AHEAD.SO I, UM, THERE'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE TO BE CONSIDERED HERE THAN JUST THE SALARY FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.
BUT, UH, YOU, YOU ALSO HAVE IN THAT BUDGET, UM, UH, LINE ITEM FOR PART-TIME, UH, INVESTIGATORS, WHICH WERE BEING UTILIZED, UM, THROUGHOUT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, VEHICLES, MAINTENANCE ON VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, OUTSIDE CONTRACTS FOR PLAN REVIEWS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING MOST OF THAT IN-HOUSE SINCE WE'VE TAKEN OVER THIS FOR YOU.
SO THAT'S A, THAT 360,000 IS A TURNKEY COST, UM, WHICH WE CAN EVEN ABSORB THE CLERICAL, UH, PORTION OF THAT THAT MEREDITH HAS BEEN DOING A, A FANTASTIC JOB OF CURRENTLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT FOR ABOUT SEVEN OR 8% LESS, I BELIEVE, THAN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
AND WE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY'S FIRE SERVICE HAS BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT, UM, UH, HANDLING THE FIRE MARSHAL BUSINESS, UH, AS IT NEEDS TO WITH THE COUNTY AS IT GROWS.
AND SO WE'RE EVEN WILLING TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND, UH, AUGMENT THAT STAFFING WITH ES D ONE TO REALLY RUN THE OFFICE, LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE RAN AS PART OF OUR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26 BUDGET PROCESS.
SO, UH, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T A BUDGET PRESENTATION, SO I DIDN'T COME PREPARED FOR THAT, BUT I THINK THERE IS A VALUE ADD THERE FOR YOU.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS IN, IN ALMOST EVERY AGENDA ITEM THAT I HAVE HEARD HERE TODAY, UM, GROWTH AND WORKLOAD AND THE CHALLENGES OF BEING A FAST GROWTH COUNTY CONTINUES TO COME ABOUT AND UH, AS WE HAVE BEEN SEEING IN OUR SHORT TIME, UM, CARRYING OUT THESE DUTIES ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, IS THAT YOU CAN'T STAFF THIS OFFICE AND PERFORMANCE DUTIES EFFECTIVELY WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL.
AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA HAVE THE TIME TO, UH, ASSIST EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OUTSIDE OF, UH, A MAJOR INCIDENT OCCURRING, BUT WITH DAILY DUTIES BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE DONE JUST ON THE FIRE MARSHAL SIDE OF THINGS, BOTH INVESTIGATING INCIDENTS, UM, BUT ALSO HANDLING PLAN REVIEWS, INSPECTIONS, AND THE LIKE, WHICH WE PROVIDED.
A SUMMARY TO THAT QUESTION I HAVE WHILE AGO IS YOU'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GUY, IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? WE, SO WE, WE COOPERATE WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ON A ROUTINE BASIS ON A HOST OF ISSUES, I THINK, AND, AND I, I WOULD RATHER LET MR. LANE SPEAK TO THE ISSUES THAT HE NEEDS HELP WITH ON THE DAILY.
UM, I, I THINK SOME OF THAT IS VERY MUCH A FUNCTION OF HIS OFFICE, UM, VERSUS HOW THERE'S INTERAGENCY COOPERATION ON CERTAIN THINGS.
SO I, I'D RATHER LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I, OUR EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH THE WORKLOAD OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS, THERE'S REALLY NO ROOM TO BE PERFORMING, UM, DAILY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS, UH, AS, AS IT PERTAINS TO THEIR, THEIR JOB.
YOU, THERE'S SOME OTHER ESD GUYS HERE.
DO THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, ARE THEY, ARE THEY FOR ESD ONE STAYING DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING? OR DO Y'ALL WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? TRAVIS RIMER, ESD NINE FIRE CHIEF AND, UH, WHO IS HE? AND NICK? NICK WILL, ESD NUMBER SIX, FIRE CHIEF.
SO SIX AND NINE ESD NINE PARK, THE ROCK DENNIS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS JUST RECENTLY ARE BASICALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH STAFFING, TOO MUCH WORKLOAD FOR ONE GUY, JUST, IT JUST WASN'T THERE.
SO SOME THINGS SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS THAT WE'RE NOW FINDING, UM, THEY'RE GETTING TAKEN CARE OF, CREATING SAFER ENVIRONMENTS, SAFER CITIES, SAFER AREAS FOR EVERYBODY TO LIVE IT.
IT'S OUR ONLY PURPOSE ESD ONE'S MANAGING THAT VERY WELL RIGHT NOW.
I THINK MOVING FORWARD THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH IT AND I'M BEHIND IT, SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND MOVING IT BACK TO ONE INDIVIDUAL.
THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.
WELL, I KNOW Y'ALL WERE HERE FOR A, I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW WHY YOU WERE HERE, BUT I FIGURED IT WAS SOME REASON.
NO, JUST TO REITERATE, UH, ESD SIX SUPPORTS THE CURRENT, UH, VIEW OF THE, THE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL POSITION AND WHAT ESD ONE IS ACCOMPLISHING.
WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN THE RESPONSE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE UNDER THEIR PURVIEW.
SO WE SUPPORT STAYING THE WAY IT IS.
STEVE, IF YOU COULD, I WANT A COUPLE THINGS OF, UM, I HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THIS, A LITTLE BIT OR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, AND WE JUST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH, UH, SOME MEETINGS WITH THE BROCK SITUATION.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN
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IN THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT OVERALL, I THINK, AND AND YOU SAID IT PROBABLY ACCURATELY THAT MAYBE IN THE PAST WE, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT, COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY OR BEEN DONE MORE TO THE BOOK, IF YOU WILL, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT.AND THEN SD ONE COMING IN AND YOU'RE FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES TO THE LETTER, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE OF THE WAY IT HAS BEEN.
MY CONCERN IS, AND AGAIN, I THINK THE WORLD OF SD ONE YOU JUST IS A, IS A NOT JUST FRIEND, BUT I, I THINK YOU JUST A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION.
UM, THE THING THAT CONCERNED ME A LITTLE BIT WITH THE BROCK SITUATION WAS IF WE WOULD'VE HAD A, A FIRE MARSHAL, COULD THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN A MORE, OR HAD THERE BEEN A MORE LIST, MAYBE MORE OF A, NOT SUCH A BLACK AND WHITE, BUT MORE IN A, IN A, MAYBE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA.
JUST LET'S DO THIS AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS RATHER THAN JUST, AND, AND THIS IS NOT CRITICISM AT ALL, I'M JUST SAYING NOT SO JUST BY THE BOOK OR ANOTHER WAY WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE THINGS OUT OR WORK WITH THEM WITHOUT BENDING.
I DON'T WANNA BREAK A LAW OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR BEND A RULE, BUT BEING ON A COMMON SENSE, LET'S JUST GET THE SCHOOL OPEN OR DO SOMETHING.
DO YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY OR, OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY GIVEN ON THAT? AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY MORE THAT WAS BETWEEN THE BROCK SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SUD IS REALLY WHERE THAT ISSUE WAS.
BUT WITH THE INSPECTION OF THIS PROCESS, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY FROM A COOPERATIVE OR, OR MAYBE BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU HIT ME RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES WITH THIS, YOU HIRED ME TO DO A JOB.
ARE YOU TELLING ME NOT TO DO MY JOB? NO, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
BUT IS THERE A, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS DIFFERENTLY TO BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE WITH THEM AND SAY, WE STILL HAD A FIRE MARSHAL THAT WAS BEING DONE, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING A VERY STRUCTURED ORGANIZATION COME IN TO FILL THAT ROLE.
COULD THERE BEEN ANYTHING DONE DIFFERENTLY TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE IN THAT SITUATION? AND I DON'T WANNA GET IN THE WEEDS OF WHAT ALL THAT HAPPENED.
THAT WAS A LOT OF ISSUES THERE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND MYSELF WENT TO.
AND YOU, I WENT TO THAT, UM, THAT MEETING THAT NIGHT.
BUT THEN THE, THE MEETING BEFORE THE, THE DAY BEFORE, UH, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IT'S THIS WAY, OR IT JUST SEEMED TO ME, I WISH IT WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.
ONE IS TO HAVE A PROPERLY STAFFED AND RAN FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE THAT'S PLUGGED INTO NEW CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS SO THINGS DON'T SNEAK UP AND BITE EVERYONE IN THE REAR END, LIKE THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION DID.
IT HAD US ALL BACKED INTO A CORNER.
AND I DON'T THINK HE, YOU COMMISSIONER WALDEN US OR BROCK ISD REALLY WANTED TO BE IN THAT POSITION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH MATTERS OF LIFE SAFETY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES CHILDREN, UM, IT IS A FAIRLY BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE AS DESCRIBED BY STATUTE.
UH, NOT ONLY ARE WE COMPELLED CONTRACTUALLY, UM, WITH VERY SPECIFIC STATUTES THAT ARE, UH, REFERENCED IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO, UH, CHAPTER 3 52 COMPELS THE COUNTY TO ENFORCE THE LIFE SAFETY CODE THAT'S ADOPTED BY THE STATE.
FURTHERMORE, UM, THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE, A COMMISSIONER'S ADMINISTRATIVE RULE FROM THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY THAT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR AND VERY BLACK AND WHITE.
UM, THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES ARE SUBJECT TO THE LIFE SAFETY CODE, WHICH IS NFPA ONE AND NFPA 1 0 1.
SO IN AN EFFORT TO BE AS LENIENT AS POSSIBLE, AND WE A HUNDRED PERCENT RESPECT THAT, UM, A BRAND NEW BEAUTIFUL FACILITY LIKE THAT SCHOOL, UH, NEEDS TO OPEN AND NEEDS TO OPEN IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WE WORK TO FIND A WAY, UM, THAT PROVIDED SOME RATIONALE, BUT STILL TOOK CARE OF WHAT THE LAW COMPELS US TO DO AND DOESN'T SACRIFICE THE SAFETY OF THE, THE KIDDOS AND STAFF THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THAT CAMPUS.
WE BACKSTOP THAT DECISION WITH THE STATE FIRE MARSHALS OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BEING RATIONAL AND WE WEREN'T GOING OFF COURSE.
WE WEREN'T EXPOSING THE COUNTY OR ESD ONE OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO UNDO LIABILITY.
THEY SUPPORTED, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS TO CUT THE FIRE FLOW REQUIREMENTS BY 75% TO, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS MANAGEABLE, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE OBTAINED IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IN ORDER TO GET THE SCHOOL OPEN.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S THE BEST WAY I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I WOULD, UM, GOING FORWARD, GOOD CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE BEING INVOLVED IN MAJOR PROJECTS LIKE THAT CAN AVOID, UM, ISSUES LIKE THAT.
IT WAS, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN, UM, TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED LONG BEFORE, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE SCHOOL OPENING, THAT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T GOING IN THE GROUND AT SOME FORM OF TEMPORARY, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS
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WERE GONNA HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT.SO IT WAS NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION.
UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY'S, UM, PARTICIPATION AND SUPPORT IN THAT.
I, I I PROMISE YOU THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO BE AS, AS RATIONAL, UM, AND FIND THE GRAY WHILE NOT SACRIFICING SAFETY OR EXPOSING ALL PARTIES INVOLVED OF SOME SERIOUS LIABILITY.
WE HAVE A MORAL, ETHICAL, AND STATUTORY DUTY, UM, AND CONTRACTUAL DUTY TO YOU, UH, TO FOLLOW THE LIFE SAFETY CODE IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.
JUST TO CLARIFY IN THIS, KIND OF GOES OUTSIDE OF YOU A LITTLE BIT JUST TO, IN, IN WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN SAID, A THOUSAND A DAY.
BECKY, IS THERE A, I GUESS WITH THE COST OF THE CLERICAL POSITION, CAN YOU COME UP AND, AND JUST, I GUESS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF HAVING ESD ONE AND HAVING A FIRE MARSHAL? UM, WHEN YOU REMOVE THE OFFICE MANAGER, IT TAKES THE BUDGET DOWN TO ABOUT $320,000 A YEAR ANNUALLY.
WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW? WHERE WAS IT LAST YEAR? WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR BUDGET FOR THE CAR MARSHAL? 3 3 85.
SO WHEN YOU REMOVE OUT WHAT REALLY SHOULD BE UNDER THE EOC, IT DROPS IT DOWN TO ABOUT THREE 20.
SO WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE COST NOW WITH THE ESD ONE BEING OUR SERVICE PROVIDER TODAY? JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT COMMISSIONER S DAY, IT'S 360, 60,000? CORRECT.
SO IT'S AN INCREASE PLUS, PLUS VEHICLE, PLUS FUEL PLUS EQUIPMENT WE'RE FURNISHING.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE INTER LOCAL, SO I DON'T KNOW THOSE DETAILS.
WE'RE FURNISHING VEHICLE, WE'RE FURNISHING FUEL AND WE'RE FURNISHING ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT MIGHT BE THERE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS, I BELIEVE.
THE, THE WAY THE INTERLOCAL READS AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS, UM, WAS EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ALREADY OWNED BY THE COUNTY, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES COULD BE UTILIZED BY ESD ONE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CARRYING OUT THE FIRE MARSHAL DUTIES.
OUR INTENT OF THAT PRICE TAG IS THAT'S A TURNKEY.
UM, WE SHOULD BE TAKING CARE OF FUEL AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
UM, BUT THAT'S A TURNKEY OPERATION GOING FORWARD, UH, AND THAT WE WOULD ABSORB CAPITAL COSTS.
UH, SO THERE IS NO FUEL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
IT, IT WAS JUST A WAY TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO WORK WITH TO GET SURE, OKAY.
SO YOU'D HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO OUR ASSETS, BUT THE THERE IS NO FUEL COST.
UH, THERE SHOULD, THERE SHOULD NOT BE.
WE, I KNOW WE ISSUED FUEL CARS FOR THOSE VEHICLES, SO, OKAY.
CHIEF, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, UNDER THE ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH ESD ONE GOING FORWARD, HOW MANY INVESTIGATORS, HOW, HOW MANY, UM, LICENSED ET CETERA BODIES DO WE HAVE DOING THIS JOB? CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR, UM, FROM, UH, AND FRANK WATSON IS IN THE BACK WHO, WHO WE DETAILED FULL-TIME TO THIS ASSIGNMENT AND HE'S DONE TREMENDOUS WORK AND WORKED A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS.
SO I'D LIKE TO COMMEND HIM FOR THAT.
HE HAS, PER THE INTERLOCAL, HE HAS BEEN SWORN IN AND APPOINTED AS THE HEAD OF DEPARTMENT, UH, WITH TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TEXAS COMMISSION ON FIRE PROTECTION.
SO THERE'S A REGULATORY PIECE THERE THAT WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, BUT, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, HELPING CARRY OUT THESE DUTIES GOING FORWARD.
AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA HIRE, CAN I CLARIFY JUST THE FOUR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING? SO THAT'S ONE FULL-TIME AND THREE PART-TIME.
IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? TWO OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH US.
UM, TWO, TWO OTHERS ARE PART-TIME.
UM, IN THE INTERIM, WE, WE'VE DETAILED, UM, FRANK FULL-TIME, THE THREE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WERE USING ON A PART-TIME BASIS, UM, APART FROM THEIR OTHER DUTIES, UH, THE WORKLOAD IS THERE.
AND OUR PLAN WOULD BE IF, IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF A PERPETUAL AGREEMENT ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE COURT AND ESD, ONE WOULD BE TO STAFF THAT WITH FOUR FULL-TIME PERSONNEL BEING ONE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL WHO WORKS A 40 HOUR WEEK AND THEN THREE SHIFT INVESTIGATORS, ONE PER SHIFT, A B, C SHIFT, JUST LIKE WE DO THE FIRE SCHEDULE.
AND IS THAT AT THAT SAME APPROXIMATE COST THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING? CORRECT.
WE'D HAVE TO PUT ESD ONE WOULD HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER 200 PLUS THOUSAND WITH THAT TO, TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT TOO MUCH, BUT I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR IN MY OWN MIND AND ALSO FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE IDEA IS THAT WE GO FROM A MODEL WHERE WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO IS FULL-TIME, BUT ON CALL 24 7 TO A MODEL WITH, WITH SOME PART-TIME HELP.
THAT WAS THE WAY WE HAD BEEN DOING IT UP UNTIL 60 DAYS AGO UNDER THIS NEW MODEL, IT'S NOT QUITE APPLES TO APPLES ON COST BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON AND THEN THREE SHIFT WORKERS WHO ARE INVESTIGATING IT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE COVERAGE UNDER YOUR MODEL FROM A MANPOWER PERSPECTIVE THAN UNDER OUR PRIOR MODEL.
AND, AND IN A LONG TERM ARRANGEMENT,
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THEY, THEY WOULD BE FULLY ASSIGNED TO THAT.SO THEY WOULDN'T JUST BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO INVESTIGATE FIRES.
THEY WOULD BE ALSO PERFORMING ALL THE OTHER FUNCTIONS OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S, OFFICE SITE PLAN REVIEWS, INSPECTIONS OF CRITICAL FACILITIES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
ALL THE DUTY, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE OUTLINED IN THE, UH, STATUS REPORT.
I WANNA POINT OUT SOMETHING ALSO THAT, I MEAN THIS ON, ON IT IS CLEARLY GIVEN US MORE RESOURCES AND I'M, I'M GONNA KIND OF VENTURE OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS NOT YOU OR YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S MORE AS, AS A COUNTY, AND I CAME FROM A CITY AS A MAYOR, AND WE LOOKED AT CONTRACTING THINGS OUT QUITE A BIT.
AND IF IT'S, I MEAN, WE, AND WE COULD CONTRACT OUT IT, WE COULD CONTRACT OUT, PROBABLY HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS IN, IN VARIOUS AREAS.
MY CONCERN HERE IS, IS THAT, UH, IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND, AND IT DID WHEN I FIRST GOT SWORN IN, AND THEN CHANNEL EIGHT WAS OUT HERE AND, AND, AND A VACANT AND AN EMPTY, UH, EOC AT THE TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY THERE.
IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO CONTRACT EVERYTHING OUT AND MAYBE HAVE A COST SAVINGS.
BUT I MEAN, FROM A A, A FIRE MARSHAL STANDPOINT, I, I WISH WE COULD AFFORD OR BE ABLE TO HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL AVAILABLE TO WORK AND COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE WITH THE SD ONE WITH AN INTERLOCAL, BUT HAVE A, A, A VOICE THAT THAT IS, IS OURS THAT WE HAVE IN A PRESENCE THAT IS OURS.
WITHOUT LOSING THAT, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT, NOT SPEAKING OF ANY NEGATIVITY TO YOU GUYS AT ALL OR THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE.
I JUST WISH WE COULD DO THAT AND HAVE THAT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THAT PRESENCE TO HAVE THAT WHERE YOU LO WE, WE LOSE THAT.
IT, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, WE COULD, WE COULD JUST CONTRACT OUT A WHOLE LOT OF OUR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN OF THIS WHOLE THING, IS NOT HAVING THAT PRESENCE OF THAT FIRE MARSHAL LIKE WE HAVE AS OUR EOC IN THE BACK HERE.
UM, WE COULD CONTRACT THAT OUT TOO, PROBABLY.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS, AND I'M JUST, I, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD DO THAT AND AFFORD THAT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND HAVE THAT, UM, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING.
IF THE, IF THE, IF THE COSTS ARE THE SAME AND THERE'S MORE RESOURCES, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY DARN IMPORTANT THING TO HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL.
WELL, WE'RE NOT RESOURCING, I MEAN, THEY'RE PART OF PARKER COUNTY.
I UNDER NO, I I I UNDERSTAND BRINGING A COMPANY IN FROM OUT OF PARKER COUNTY.
MR. LANE, CAN YOU COME UP AND DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THESE TWO QUESTIONS? UM, THE, UH, COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAD HAD REFERENCED TO MY REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL POSITION.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, I'D, I'D REACHED OUT TO, TO ALL OF THE, TO THE JUDGE AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I, I THINK I GAVE YOU WAY MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU WANTED ABOUT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT I NEED TO BE DOING, UM, AND NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, HAVING IT A, A FULL-TIME, UH, FIRE MARSHAL, UH, THAT PARKER COUNTY'S ON THE PAYROLL IS NOT CONTRACTED OUT, WOULD PROVIDE ME ONE PIECE OF THE NEED THERE, WHICH IS A BACKUP BECAUSE AS, AS I, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY MENTIONED IT, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER HOLE THAT I'M, UH, ONE GUY 24 7 ON CALL.
AND I WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.
UM, SO THE BACKUP IS CRITICAL BECAUSE AS WE SAW MOST RECENTLY DOWN IN HILL COUNTRY, THE EMERGENCY MANAGER WAS OUT SICK.
UM, AND THAT WAS NOT GOOD AT ALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I MIGHT OCCASIONALLY HAVE TO GO TO A, A VOLLEYBALL GAME IN ABILENE OR SOMEWHERE, SO AT LEAST IT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THE SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE THIS FALL.
UM, I I NEED A BACKUP PERSON AND THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD HELP WITH THAT.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT UNDER THE EXISTING ARRANGEMENT, UM, I TALKED TO, UM, UH, THE INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL FRANK WATSON, WE HAD A LITTLE FIRE IN COMMISSIONER HOLT'S PRECINCT, UH, YESTERDAY.
UM, AND WE BROUGHT IN THE, FOR FOREST SERVICE TO BRING IN SOME DOZERS TO HELP GET THAT UNDER CONTROL.
AND, UM, AND WE WORKED WELL TOGETHER.
UM, I JUST, LIKE, I WORKED WELL WITH, WITH THE OTHER ESDS.
UM, UH, SO I THINK WHAT, UH, THE COUNTY HAVING A FIRE MARSHAL ON THE PAYROLL HELPS ME WITH THAT BACKUP.
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BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE RESPONSE TO ARSON INVESTIGATIONS.IT'S, IT'S ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF WITH THE PLAN INVESTIGATIONS, THE PLAN EXAMINER INSPECTIONS.
THERE IS A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF INSPECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ONE PERSON CAN DO THAT JOB.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME HELP.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND AND TO WHAT LEVEL YOU FUND THAT, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE TOUGH DECISION THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO MAKE.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO TO, TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, UH, PERSONALLY, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TAXPAYERS WHEN, AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THAT, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT, UH, SO SURE.
AND, AND, AND, AND I, I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO, I'VE TRIED TO HELP WITH THE TRANSITION AS BEST I, AS BEST I CAN.
UM, I THINK COMMISSIONER, UH, CHIEF WATSON WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP OUT AS BEST I CAN ON THAT TRANSITION.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE TO DO.
UM, YOU CAN'T WORK JUST AS WELL WITH ESD ONE.
SO WHY DO WE NEED A FIRE MARSHAL? JUST SO WE CAN SAY WE HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE, OR HE IS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW IT BENEFITS US TO HAVE A DSD ONE OR THE FIRE MARSH.
I, I UNDER I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO STAY IN MY LANE HERE.
I WHAT I, WHAT I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR FIRE MARSHAL, IF WE HAD ONE ON THE PAYROLL, HE CAN BACK ME UP IF I'M OUT SICK OR OUT OF TOWN OR THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, I, BUT I'LL ALSO ARGUE THAT I THINK ESD ONE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT HE HAS BEEN IN A LIMITED FASHION IN THE SHORT TIME THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT ROLE.
CHIEF, UH, WATSON, IS THERE ANYTHING PER THE STATUTE THAT Y'ALL CANNOT DO TO SUPPORT MR. LANE, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE A CONTRACTED FIRE MARSHAL VERSUS, UH, ON THE PAYROLL FIRE MARSHAL? SPECIFIC TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? NO, HIS ROLE.
I, UM, NO, I, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR IS A DAY OFF ONCE IN A WHILE, WHICH HE A HUNDRED PERCENT DESERVES
AND THAT I, I, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH, UM, I'M ALSO, UH, IN, IN TRYING TO STAY IN OUR LANE RE WANT TO RESPECT THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF DUTIES SPECIFIC TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL SIDE OF THINGS.
THAT, WHICH IS PART OF WHY THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU ALL, UH, PUT TOGETHER ON HIRING HIM, YOU KNOW, WE SUGGESTED, HEY, YOU SHOULD REALLY SEPARATE THESE TWO FUNCTIONS OUT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY VERY DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND THAT WILL ALSO HELP YOUR CANDIDATE POOL.
UM, SO THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HELP, UH, HELP MAKE SURE, UH, UH, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS IN THE EVENT OF A MAJOR INCIDENT ARE CARRIED OUT.
I THINK THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF WORKLOAD ON HIS OFFICE THAT HE REALLY NEEDS ANOTHER PERSON TO ASSIST WITH THAT AS ALL THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE, THE PLANNING THAT YOU'RE, UM, REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AND A LOT OF OTHER FUNCTIONS.
SO I'LL, I'LL STAY OUT OF IT, BUT, UM, SHORT ANSWER IS THERE'S NEEDS IN BOTH AREAS.
UH, AND RATHER THAN US COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU, HEY, THERE'S TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS HANDED YOU THIS GROWTH IN AN UNINCORPORATED FASHION.
UM, PARKER COUNTY IS EXPERIENCING A DIFFERENT BUILD OUT AS ONE OF THE METROPLEX REGION COUNTIES, AND THIS IS HAPPENING ALL, ALL AROUND THE OUTER RING OF THE METROPLEX, WHERE A LOT OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS UNINCORPORATED.
IT, IT USED TO, I I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY WOULD BE THE CASE THAT A TWO STORY, $44 MILLION, A HUNDRED PLUS THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT EDUCATIONAL FACILITY WOULD NOT BE BUILT IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT WOULD BE IN SOMEONE CITY AND FALL UNDER A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF CODES AND ORDINANCES AND, AND THE, THE BUILDING OFFICIALS AND ALL THAT ON STAFF TO HANDLE THAT.
BUT PARKER COUNTY IS, IS BUILDING OUT DIFFERENT IN A VERY FAST WAY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO THERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER YOU A SOLUTION THAT ISN'T US JUST COMING AND SAYING, HEY, YOU NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY WITH THIS AND MAKE IT LIKE IT OUGHT TO BE.
WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND PUT SOME OF OUR OWN SKIN IN THE GAME TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
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I THINK SO, UM, JUST A QUESTION.I I, I'M SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES TODAY.
UH, WE'RE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT, AT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THE COST IS.
AND I I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK, GEORGE, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS, BUT CHIEF WATSON BROUGHT IT UP.
WE HAD A FIRE MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMBINATION, AND SO WE HAD A COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH THAT, AND WE CAME BACK WITH ONLY AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
I GUESS STEVEN WATSON, UH, JUST MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOUR COMMITTEE ACCEPTED, YOUR COMMITTEE ACCEPTED WAS TO SEPARATE THIS.
BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE HIRED JASON.
HE DOES A GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT HE WAS GONNA FILL BOTH ROLES AND THEN WE FIND OUT THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND SO, UH, WE DIDN'T HIDE THAT, DID WE? COMMISSIONER HOL, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND RECOGNIZED THAT WHAT WE HAD HISTORICALLY HAD WAS A COMBINED FIRE MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY MANAGER.
THOSE ARE TWO, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR, BUT STILL PRETTY DIFFERENT ROLES, AND THEY REQUIRE DISTINCT LICENSES AND TRAINING AND CE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT DOES BOTH, YOU TRY TO HIRE ONE THAT DOES BOTH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LIMITING YOUR TALENT POOL DOWN TO AROUND FIVE TO 10% OF ALL AVAILABLE CANDIDATES.
SO WHEN WE INTERVIEWED EVERYBODY THAT WE INTERVIEWED, MR. LANE STOOD HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT WE INTERVIEWED.
UM, ACTUALLY EVERYONE WE INTERVIEWED.
AND WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS THE BEST POSSIBLE OPTION TO GO WITH AN INDIVIDUAL EMERGENCY MANAGER NOW AND THEN ADD A FIRE MARSHAL LATER FOR THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF THE COUNTY.
SO MY POINT IS THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF NEEDS HERE, AND YES, WE HAVE BEEN GROWING AND, AND ARE CONTINUING TO GROW, BUT I LOOK AT THE, UH, AMOUNT OF DOLLARS SPENT IN ANY AREA.
UH, WE JUST, WE JUST MADE A DECISION ON SOME ON TWO PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO, TO CUT BACK SOMEHOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TOTAL IS.
I I'M SAYING THAT, UH, UH, ANYBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO IN THE PUBLIC THAT SAYS YOU'RE SPENDING A THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY FOR FIRE MARSHAL SERVICES IN PARKER COUNTY TODAY WOULD LOOK AT IT ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WOULD A 25% INCREASE IN THEIR TAX RATE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING A THING AND, AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE, THE WHY DO COMMISSIONERS MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS? IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH THE VOTERS.
WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND, UH, MY, THE FOLKS THAT I'M IN TOUCH WITH TELL ME THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY 25% MORE TO GET A JUSTICE CENTER AND A JAIL REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH WE'RE GROWING.
THEY, THEY WANT TO BE REASONABLE.
AND I'M TRYING TO BRING THAT SAME AMOUNT OF REASONABLENESS BACK INTO THIS FIRE MARSHAL POSITION AND, UH, NO REFLECTION ON THEM.
I, I EXPRESSED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS TO CHIEF WATSON HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THEM STEPPING UP AND, AND FILLING THIS NEED.
BUT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WHEN THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS, THEY DON'T CALL CHIEF WATSON AND THEY DON'T CALL THE CURRENT FIRE MARSHAL WHO JUST GO IN THAT ROAD, THEY CALL YOU.
I HAVE A SUGGESTION, MAYBE, OKAY, INSTEAD OF US HIRING A FIRE MARSHAL, WHY DON'T WE HIRE AN ASSISTANT FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GUY? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THESE GUYS DOING THE FIRE MARSHAL STUFF STUFF.
SO LET'S GET HIM AN ASSISTANT SO HE CAN HAVE A DAY OFF.
HE'S ASKED FOR IT IN HIS BUDGET.
SO INSTEAD OF HIRING A, I KNOW WE'RE BOTH
AND SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OPTION.
BUT I, I, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, UH, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE, UH, WILLINGNESS TO GROW ONE DEPARTMENT MUCH MORE THAN, BECAUSE IF YOU SIT HERE AND LOOK AT YOURS, YOUR DEPARTMENT, HOW MUCH HAS YOUR DEPARTMENT GROWN? WELL, WE HAVE TREMENDOUS GROWTH HERE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PRECINCT ONE, YOUR EMPLOYEES AND YOUR, WE HAVEN'T GROWED AT ALL, AND I'M ASKING FOR TWO MORE EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I SAID, BUT, BUT THAT GROWTH IS, IS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND WE, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT
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INCREASES IN, IN EVERYTHING, BUT IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER.SO I PERSONALLY, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE REQUEST FOR MR. LANE FOR HIS DEPARTMENT PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND SEE WHAT IS A, WHAT IS A REALISTIC OPTION THERE TO, TO DO A DEEPER DIVE ON WHAT THE COST HARD COST WOULD BE TO THE COUNTY, AND IF IT'S REALISTIC TO HAVE AND THE VIABILITY OF THE ESD ONE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT ON THE EOC AND HOW THAT EXACTLY WOULD WORK, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE IN BUDGET RIGHT NOW MM-HMM
UM, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, I'D FEEL MUCH COM MORE COMFORTABLE GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS FOR ME ON MAKING THIS DECISION TODAY.
BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS, IN MY MIND, I ALWAYS FIGURED THAT THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT INTERIM SOLUTION, THINKING THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE OUR OWN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL DEPARTMENT.
BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW AND WHAT WE'RE LISTENING TO TODAY, I, I, I HAVE QUESTIONS, REAL QUESTIONS TO HELP WITH THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE DISCUSSING AND BUDGET FOR THE EFC.
NOW I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN BRINGING THIS BACK AT A LATER DATE.
UH, BUT WE NEEDED TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE, WE ARE AGAIN, WORKING ON A TIMELINE JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO JUDGE, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND AGREE TO BRING THAT BACK LATER.
CAN I, CAN I ASK ONE THING, UM, OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES? AND BECKY, THIS WOULD BE FOR YOU, CHIEF WATSON, THIS WOULD BE FOR YOU.
I'D LIKE IT PUT IN WRITING SOMEHOW TO GET AN APPLES TO APPLES OF CHIEF.
YOUR, YOUR PROPOSAL AS, UH, I BELIEVE ONE FULL-TIME, THREE OR THREE SHIFT WORKERS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WHAT IT WOULD COST US AS A COUNTY TO DO THE SAME.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE A, A MANPOWER, APPLES TO APPLES WHERE THIS IS THE ESD ONE SOLUTION OR, OR PROGRAM.
HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THE COUNTY TO DO THE SAME.
THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM.
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FIVE A.YOU'LL DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON ONGOING REPORTING OF BOND MR. COMMISSIONERS AND FREEZING NICHOLS ITEM A.
YEAH, I NEED TO GET HERE EARLIER.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR AUGUST.
UM, A COUPLE OF PROGRAM UPDATES.
UH, WE, WE DID FINALIZE THE AFAS SO THAT, UH, SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING, UH, THEY'RE NOW IN TECH STOCKS COURT TO, UH, GET THOSE CONTRACTS PUT TOGETHER, AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO COURT, LIKELY BE IN SEPTEMBER BEFORE.
UM, AND THAT'S FOR F AND SEVEN 30 AND 1187.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DOING COORDINATION WITH COG ON FM SEVEN 30.
THE MAIN THING IS TO VERIFY THAT THE, UH, METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND WHAT WE INTEND TO DO ARE IN ALIGNMENT.
UH, SO THAT MANY WAS HELD LAST WEEK.
UH, HALF IS LEADING AND WE DID GET CONCURRENCE THAT WERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, COG PLAN.
UH, IN ADDITION, CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM UPDATES.
SO THAT'S MORE THE MONEY SIDE.
UH, AND SO, UH, WHAT I'VE BEEN COORDINATING IS AS I'VE GOTTEN NEW ESTIMATES ON SEVEN 30 AND 1187, PROVIDING THAT TO COG SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT IN, UH, ANY TIP REVISIONS THAT WE NEED.
UH, AND THEN SIMILAR TO SEVEN 30, UH, WORKING ON THE FM 1187 ALIGNMENT WITH THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
UH, SO ONE THING, UM, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, UH, FM ONE 13 IS OUT FOR BID NOW.
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ONE WE'VE BEEN, UH, WAITING FOR IS ACTUALLY ONE FROM THE LAST, UH, BOND PROGRAM, BUT IT, WE'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS FROM CONTRACTORS.SO HOW MANY YEARS NOW,
UM, AND THEN I'LL GIVE UPDATES ON THE OTHER ONES AS I KIND OF GO PRECINCT BY PRECINCT.
BUT THAT, THAT ONE WAS, UH, ONE WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.
UH, SO A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ON, UH, PRECINCT ONE.
UH, SO YOU OPEN BIDS ON MID, UH, MIDWAY ROAD.
AND SO LOOKING TO, UH, THAT, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, AND THEN, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE PAVING ON WN WOODY THIS WEEK.
SO THAT CONSTRUCTION'S, UH, DID THEY START TODAY OR IS IT JUST THIS WEEK SOMETIME? I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ACTUALLY STARTED TODAY, BUT IT WAS GONNA BE THIS WEEK.
WELL, CHRIS, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU A SECOND? YES, SIR.
THE, UH, THE ONE 13 RAILROAD CROSSING MILLS SOUTH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU RES AND NICHOLS.
YOU WERE, YOU WERE VERY TIMELY IN DOING EVERYTHING, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE AT THE POINT THAT IT IS NOW WITHOUT YOUR HELP, SO THANK YOU.
UH, AND SO ON, ON THOMAS ROAD.
UM, SO THE RIGHT OF WAY'S COMPLETE ON THAT, AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING THE LIMITS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT PROJECT.
UH, SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT, GET THAT REVISED.
ONE OF THE MAIN ONES THAT CAME UP LAST WEEK IS THE FM 51 V STATION INTERSECTION.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A BAD ACCIDENT THERE.
UH, WE'D BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, TECH STOCK ABOUT ACCELERATING THAT ONE.
AND SO, UH, TO KIND OF GET THAT ONE BUILT QUICKER, THEY'RE GONNA DO IT WITH THEIR FORCES AND, UH, WOULD BE TAR TARGETING OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AS PART OF THEIR, UH, MAINTENANCE SAFETY PROGRAM.
UH, SO THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THOSE KEY ELEMENTS TO TRY TO ACCELERATE THAT.
UH, TECH STOCKS, UH, VERY MUCH WHAT CASE THE COURT DOESN'T KNOW, TWO MORE PEOPLE DIED TWO WEEKS AGO THERE AT 51 AND BILL STATION ROAD.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE CARTER ROAD.
WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING THERE.
AND I THINK CHRIS CAN TALK TO THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN AT CARTER ROAD AND GETTING THAT UNDER THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE H CIP, YES, THE T DOTS RUNNING.
SO YEAH, THANK, YEAH, SO THAT, THAT ONE IS, UM, THIS ONE IS, UH, WE'RE ABLE ON BILL STATION NOT TO NEED RIGHT OF WAY, SO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN CARTER THERE, BUT, UH, GONNA GET IT RES STRIPPED, UH, ADD SOME PAVING SUCH THAT, UH, WE DON'T END UP IN THAT SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE PULL INTO THE ONCOMING, UH, TRAFFIC.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
UM, SO GOING ON TO HIGHLIGHTS IN PRECINCT TWO.
SO LOOKING TO ADVERTISE OAK RIDGE, UH, ACTUALLY THIS SATURDAY.
UH, SO THAT'S A KEY MILESTONE ON THAT PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH UTILITY RELOCATIONS ON JOHNSON BEND AND GREEN ACRES.
THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED THIS WEEK.
AND THEN, UH, THE CONTRACT WILL BE ABLE TO RESUME CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN THE 51 CARTER WAS MENTIONED.
UH, SO WE GOT COMMENTS ON THE 30% PLANS, AND SO WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE NOW.
UH, AND, AND, UH, WORKING TOWARDS THE 60%, UH, PLANS ON FM 51 AND CARTER.
UM, FEW HIGHLIGHTS ON, UH, PRECINCT THREE.
SO LOOKING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON RICK WILLIAMSON, ACTUALLY ON THE SECOND.
UH, SO WE'RE ORGANIZING A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH A CONTRACTOR ON THAT PROJECT.
UM, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS I THINK, YOU KNOW, ADDED SOME VALUE IS ON THE I 20 RAMP FRONTAGE ROAD PROJECT THAT, UH, GRAHAM IS DOING.
SO THEY'RE DOING KIND OF SUPPLEMENTAL SURVEY, BUT TECH STOCK DID HAVE A SURVEY OF THE, THE I 20 CORRIDOR THAT THEY HAD ALREADY DONE.
UH, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING US THAT INFORMATION, UH, TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT WHAT GRAHAM'S DOING.
UH, GRAHAM DID ALSO ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, UH, ACTUALLY I FLIPPED THAT AGAIN, I NEED TO, SO AT THE RAMPS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, UH, TO TECH STOCK AT THE END OF JULY.
AND SO THOSE ARE UNDER REVIEW.
SO WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO LET THAT, THERE'S, UH, ONE UTILITY CONFLICT WE'RE RESOLVING.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'S, UH, ACCESS CONTROL COORDINATION, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHERE THE RAMPS ARE NOT WANTING DRIVEWAYS TO BE PLACED IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE'RE, WE'LL BE KIND OF WORKING THAT OUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE.
UH, SO WE'RE TARGETING TO HAVE, UM, PLANS FINALIZED ON, UH, THE BANKHEAD BY MID-SEPTEMBER.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT FIRST PHASE, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY ON, ON THE BANKHEAD BRIDGE.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING COORDINATION
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WITH, UH, THE CITY OF WILLOW PARK.UH, WE'VE, WE HAVE ABOUT A 30% DESIGN.
UH, WE HAVE DONE THE GEOTECH AS WELL, AND KIND OF LOOKING TO PAUSE ON THAT ONE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY.
UH, ONCE WE COMPLETE THAT 30%, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY DOCUMENTS FOR THE FM FIVE INTERSECTION.
UH, THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, UH, KIND OF SAFETY INTERSECTION PROJECTS.
UH, THAT ONE IS ALREADY FUNDED WITH COG, UH, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED SOME RIGHT OF WAY THERE.
AND SO THAT'S, UH, KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHT ON THAT ONE.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD AT THE NEXT COURT AS WELL.
WE'RE JUST KIND OF EVALUATING OPTIONS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND TECH STOCK ON THAT ONE.
WE'RE, UH, LOOKING TO TRY TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A SIGNAL AT, UH, 3 77.
UH, AND THEN, UM, ONG PERKINS IS WORKING ON THE 11 A SEVEN WIDENING I MENTIONED HOW WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH COG WITH THEIR PLAN.
UH, ALSO HAD A COORDINATION WITH TECH STOCK, JUST, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, THEIR INITIAL DESIGN WORK.
UH, SO ON THE WEBSITE, UH, OF COURSE I ALWAYS SHOW THIS, WE ARE WORKING ON THE WEBSITE UPDATES.
WE'VE ADDED, UH, KIND OF THE STATUS OF EACH JOB, AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH GETTING THE IMAGES UPDATED.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT, UH, PLANNING LEVEL IMAGE.
UH, WE'LL BE SHOWING, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE PHOTOGRAPHS AND THEN KIND OF THE SCHEMATICS AS THE, THE PROJECTS ARE BEING DESIGNED SO IT'S MORE, MORE FREQUENT, UH, OR MORE ACCURATE TO THE CURRENT DAY.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
WE GOT ANOTHER ITEM RIGHT UNDERNEATH? WE DO, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT? NO, IT'S JUST A, WE'RE GOOD? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B ON DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON DESIGN SERVICES FOR RICK WILLIAMSON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY BRIDGE AT US 180, CHRIS.
UM, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE, THE MAIN PROJECTS IN, UH, PRECINCT THREE.
SO IT'S THE RICK WILLIAMSON BRIDGE OVER 180.
UH, IN A PRIOR APPROVAL, Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED THE SURVEY.
SO THAT SURVEY WORKS, UH, UNDERWAY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, DOING THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
ONE THING'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE LOOP IS, UH, SINCE WE'RE SEEKING FEDERAL FUNDS, THE, THE DESIGN IS ALL CENTERED AROUND GETTING FEDERAL FUNDS GOING THROUGH THE TECH STOCK PROCESS THERE.
UH, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL BE DOING THE FULL SCHEMATIC DESIGN ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, WE WON'T NEED RIGHT AWAY ON THIS ONE SINCE THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY ACQUIRED.
UH, AND THE MAIN GOAL IS TO SEEK, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS ON THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE, OF COURSE, SEVERAL PROJECTS WHERE, UH, WE'RE PARTNERED WITH COG, BUT THIS WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN OUR COORDINATION WITH COG THAT, UH, THE THINKING IS IT'D BE BEST FOR A FEDERAL APPLICATION, UH, WITH A BRIDGE FUNDING.
SO ULTIMATELY IN, IF, IF WE GET THAT MONEY, THAT WILL RUN THROUGH TECH STOCK, BUT WE'LL JUST BE PURSUING THAT, UH, DIRECTLY WITH THE FEDS VERSUS GOING THROUGH COG.
UH, SO THIS INCLUDES, UH, THE DESIGN SERVICES, UM, AND LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC COUNT WORK AS WELL.
UH, THE TOTAL, UH, COST IS 684,000, UH, 9 0 7.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE PREVIOUSLY DID HAVE THE SURVEY, UH, APPROVED.
UH, SO THIS IS QUITE A BIT UNDER BUDGET.
WE HAD ABOUT $980,000 ALLOCATED ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, BUT JUST AS WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH, UM, THIS IS THE, SO THIS IS A, AND I DON'T HAVE THE STATISTICS TO BACK IT UP, BUT I, I, I TALKED TO SOMEBODY THAT LIVES REAL CLOSE RIGHT THERE THAT CAN OBSERVE, AND THERE'S ABOUT ONE WRECK A WEEK THERE AT THIS INTERSECTION.
UH, IT'S CITY OF WEATHERFORD INVESTIGATES THOSE.
SO I, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
HOWEVER, UH, IF THERE'S A NEED WHEN, WHEN THAT, IF WIDENING PROCESS, THE 13 MONTHS IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THAT DONE, UH, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ASKING WHEN'S THE BRIDGE COMING? AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP ACTUALLY TO GET THAT BRIDGE BUILT, AND IT'S GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS.
I HOPE THAT IT CAN BE FASTER THAN THE RAILROAD CROSSING AT FM ONE 13
HOWEVER, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.
THERE'S ABOUT A REP A WEEK THERE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME ABOUT THAT BRIDGE, BUT HOW MUCH IS THAT BRIDGE GONNA COST? YEAH, IT, IT, IT, IT WILL BE IN THE 25
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TO 30 MILLION RANGE.I KNOW YOU'VE TOLD US BEFORE THAT IT KEEPS GOING UP.
I HEARD YEAH, ONE TIME HE SAID 17, BUT IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN, IN THE BOND PROJECTS.
YEAH, THE FUNDING WILL HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT WE ARE DOING THE BASIC WORK FOR, TO GET THAT PROCESS IN PLAY AND THAT WE, ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE, RIGHT? IF YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE? FIVE OH, MOVE TO ITEM C.
DISCUSS TAKE ACTION DESIGN SERVICES FOR FAIRVIEW ROAD AND PRINCE LANE.
CHRIS? UH, YEAH, SO THIS IS, UH, TWO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IN, UH, PRECINCT THREE.
UM, SO THEIR, UH, FAIRVIEW ROAD IS KIND OF, YOU'LL SEE THERE, IT'S RIGHT AT, UH, I 20.
UM, AND IT, IT'S KIND OF NEXT TO THE, UH, EXIT THERE AT FM 1189.
UH, THE IDEA IS TO IMPROVE THAT ROADWAY ABOUT 1200 FEET.
UM, IT WILL BE CONCRETE, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT SECTION.
UH, JOINING, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE AS WELL AS I 20, THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT A LOT SAFER.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PULL THE GRADE UP SO IT'S NOT AS STEEP OF A INCLINE INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
UH, SECONDARILY WE HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE, UM, THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S DOING WITH HIS FORCES AT 1189.
IT'S A RIGHT TURN LANE, UH, AT PRICHARD FOR THE SCHOOL.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING A PERMIT, UH, SO THAT, UH, THE COUNTY KIND OF PROCEED WITH THAT WORK.
UH, HERE'S THE SUMMARY OF THOSE COSTS.
UH, SO, UH, THIS INCLUDES THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
UH, SURVEYING THERE IS SOME RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED FOR THE FAIRVIEW LANE.
AND UH, AND THEN OF COURSE MATERIALS TESTING THERE AT 1189.
SO THIS WOULD BE, THESE ARE ADDITIVE PROJECTS.
THIS WOULD BE PRECINCT THREE DISCRETIONARY AND THE AMOUNT OF 129, UH, THOUSAND 570.
THAT INTERSECTION THERE, THE GRADE IS SUCH THAT IF YOU COME UP THERE IN A TRUCK, WHICH MY GUYS DO ALL THE TIME, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT GRADE.
AND, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO THE EXIT RAMP MAKES IT A DANGEROUS LOCATION.
SO WE'RE GONNA RAISE THE GRADE UP THERE AND HOPEFULLY I THINK WE CAN, UH, UH, GET THAT DONE THROUGH, UH, AS AN ADDITION TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S WORKING ON THE LOOP AS WELL ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THE OTHER ONE, UH, TEXDOT IS OKAY TO US TO DO THAT RIGHT TURN LANE THERE AT THE, UH, NEWEST SCHOOL IN BROCK.
UH, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH TO GET THE PERMIT TO HAVE ALL THE TESTING DONE SO THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE, THAT IT CAN BE LEFT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S PLANS FOR A LARGER TURN LANE LATER, RIGHT? BUT IF WE DON'T GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WELL, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT IT ENABLES THEM TO LEAVE THAT WORK DONE THERE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE IN DISCUSSION PHASE.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIE? I, CHRIS, THANK YOU.
[4.D.1. Discuss/Take action on ongoing reporting of bond projects to Commissioners Court by Freese & Nichols. (Chris Bosco/ Commissioner Holt/ Judge Deen) ]
WE'RE GOING BACK TO ITEM D ONE ON I DEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS.[4.D.2. Authorization to Advertise RFP PC25-39 Mental Health Diversionmy Services. (Kim Rivas I Judge Deen) ]
ITEM TWO, DOCTOR RELATES TO ADVERTISE RFP, PC 25 DASH 39 MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSIONARY SERVICES.SO REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 39 FOR JUVENILE PROBATION'S MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSIONARY SERVICES WITH AN ANTICIPATED ADVERTISING DATE OF AUGUST 13TH AND 20TH.
ANTICIPATED OPENING DATE OF SEPTEMBER 2ND, AND AN AWARD DATE OF SEPTEMBER 8TH.
UM, THESE NEXT, THIS ONE PLUS THE NEXT TWO, UH, REQUEST TO ADVERTISE ARE FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE CONTINGENT UPON A GRANT THAT SHE WILL KNOW IF SHE'S RECEIVED THESE GRANTS ON THE 22ND OF THIS MONTH.
IF SHE DOESN'T GET THE GRANTS, THESE WILL NOT BE AWARDED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL NO FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH ITEM THREE,
[4.D.3. Authorization to Advertise RFP PC25-40 Job Training and Job Placement Services. (Kim Rivas I Judge Deen) ]
AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 40.JOB TRAINING AND JOB PLACEMENT SERVICES REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP PC 25 DASH 40 FOR JUVENILE PROBATION.
JOB TRAINING AND PLACEMENT SERVICES.
ADVERTISE ON AUGUST 13TH AND 20TH.
ANTICIPATE OPENING ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, AN AWARD OF SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025.
THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT? YES, SIR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONNELLY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I ASK WHAT TYPE? THAT'S
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FOR JUVENILE DEPARTMENT TRAINING ACROSS THE BOARD.THIS'S FOR JU THE JUVENILES THEMSELVES.
ANY OF THAT DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE? FIVE VOTE.
[4.D.4. Authorization to Advertise RFP PC25-4 l Functional Family Therapy Services. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen) ]
MOVE TO ITEM FOUR.AUTHORIZATION ADVERTISED RFP PC 25 DASH 41 FUNCTIONAL FAMILY THERAPY SERVICES.
AGAIN, THIS IS R-F-P-P-C 25 DASH 41 FOR JUVENILE PROBATION, FUNCTIONAL FA FAMILY THERAPY SERVICES, ALSO ADVERTISING ON AUGUST 13TH AND 20TH.
ANTICIPATE OPENING OF SEPTEMBER 2ND AND ALSO AWARDING ON SEPTEMBER SIX, EIGHTH OF 2025.
MOTION SHOULD MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[4.D.5. Authorization to Advertise RFP PC26-0l Bundled Insurances. (Kim Rivas I Judge Deen) ]
FIVE.AUTHORIZATION OF ADVERTISE RFP PC 26 DASH OH ONE BUNDLED INSURANCES.
SO REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE R-F-P-P-C 26 DASH OH ONE BUNDLED INSURANCES.
THIS IS FOR OUR PROPERTY INSURANCE, OUR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCES AND OUR WORK WORKERS' COMPENSATION INSURANCES.
WE TYPICALLY HAVE, UH, A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT FOR THESE SERVICES AND IT IS TIME FOR TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID FOR THOSE.
AND THE ANTICIPATED ADVERTISING DATE IS OCTOBER ONE AND THESE, AND THE SEVENTH ANTICIPATED OPENING IS NOVEMBER 3RD AND ANTICIPATED AWARD DATE IS 1124 WITH A EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY ONE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH, MOVE TO
[4.D.6. Accept/Reject/Renew RFP PC24-45 Disaster Debris Removal, Reduction, Disposal and Other Emergency Services for Parker County. (Kim Rivas I Judge Deen) ]
ITEM SIX, EXCEPT PROJECT RENEW RFP PC 24 DASH 45, DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL, REDUCTION DISPOSAL, AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR PARKER COUNTY.SO REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO RENEW RFP PC 25 DASH 45, DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL, REDUCTION DISPOSAL, AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THESE WERE AWARDED AS A PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND TERTIARY CONTRACTS FOR SARAH'S ENVIRONMENTALIST PRIMARY TFR ENTERPRISES AS SECONDARY AND DRC EMERGENCY SERVICES, THE TERTIARY AWARDEES.
THEY HAVE OPTIONS TO RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIOD AND ALL THREE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THIS FOR CONTRACT PERIOD.
BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2026.
THESE ARE CONTRACTS IN PLACE IN CASE OF ANY EMERGENCY DISASTER, UM, OF, OF DAMAGES AND, AND REMOVAL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND CUBIC YARDS AND WE'VE NEVER USED THAT.
MOVE TO RENEW ON WOOD MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WAS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OOPS.
THAT LITTLE BOX KEEPS COMING UP.
FIVE, WHENEVER IT COMES UP, MOVE TO ITEM
[4.D.7. Authorization of Surplus Property List in an Online Auction. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen) ]
SEVEN, WILL TAKE NO ACTION.[4.D.8. Authorization to Declare Salvage & Dispose of lots not sold in Auction 7 /21/25 8/1/25. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen) ]
AUTHORIZATION TO DECLARE SALVAGE DISPOSED OF LOTS NOT SOLD IN AUCTION.SO WE HAD A FEW ITEMS THAT DID NOT SELL AT THIS MOST RECENT AUCTION THAT CLOSED ON AUGUST 1ST, 2025.
THEY INCLUDE, UM, THREE DESKS AND THEN SOME OFFICE, UH, SUPPLY TYPE THINGS, UM, AND FACE SHIELDS, WHITEBOARDS, AND THEN SOME DESKTOP ORGANIZERS AND ROUND TABLES.
KIM, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING FROM PRECINCT TOO, AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT, CORRECT? NO, SIR.
I'M JUST REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION THAT WE CAN DISPOSE OF THESE ITEMS. ASK FOR A MOTION.
UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
YOU DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ONE SECOND.
SORRY, I WENT TOO FAST ON THAT.
[6.A. Discussion/Update on Regional Transportation Council Meeting. (Judge Deen)]
ITEM SIX A ON DISCUSSIONS, UPDATE ON REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL MEETINGS.I'VE GIVEN YOU THE UPDATES AND THE, THE AGENDAS OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE ON THIS.
I WILL SAY THAT, UH, AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THIS, UH, WAS JUST, UM, PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, UH, OUTSIDE OF OR NOT IN IMPACTING PARKER COUNTY.
UH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
MOTION WILL BE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONY.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, I THINK WE END VOTE FIVE.
[7.A. Precinct Three will be on private property to repair a fence due to storm damage at 751 Olive Branch, owner Kim Pittman. (Commissioner Walden) ]
A ON NOTIFICATION.PRECINCT THREE WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY REPAIR OFFENSE.
TIRE DUE STORM DAMAGE IS 7 51.
OLIVE BRANCH OWNER CAM PITMAN IS A NOTIFICATION MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT.
[8.B. Approval of the Order of Special Election to be held on November 4, 2025, in Parker County, Texas for the purpose of voting in a Special Election to adopt or reject the proposed Constitutional Amendments as submitted by the 89th Legislature, Regular Session of the State of Texas. (Cricket! Miller/ Judge Deen) ]
MOVE TO B APPROVAL ON THE ORDER OF SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025 IN PARKER COUNTY, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING IN A SPECIAL ELECTION TO ADOPT OR REJECT THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AS SUBMITTED BY THE 89TH[01:50:01]
LEGISLATURE.REGULAR SESSION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
OH, MOVE TO ITEM C WILL TAKE NO ACTION.
[8.E. Accept donation of$1,745.00 to the Parker County Sheriff's Office from 3 Alarm Fireworks. (Mark Arnett I Judge Deen) ]
E ACCEPT DONATION OF $1,745 TO THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FROM THREE ALARM FIREWORKS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITHJUST ONE THING, WE USUALLY GET THOSE DONATED, UH, INTO OUR TRAINING LINE AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS DON'T ROLL BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND AT THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR THAT THEY, THEY DO CARRY OVER INTO THE NEXT YEAR.
THEY DO THIS FOR A LOT OF, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS.
IT IT GOES UP AND I DON'T SEE IT.
I HAVE MOTION TO MADE BY COMMISSIONER HILL AND THEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONNELLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
[8.F. Authorize the County Attorney, District Attorney and County Judge to apply for SB 22 Funds for FY 2026. (Judge Deen) ]
TO ITEM F.AUTHOR AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND COUNTY JUDGE TO APPLY FOR SB 22 FUNDS FOR FY 26.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
[8.G. Present/Discuss Proposed FY2026 Budget. (Judge Deen) ]
G.DISCUSS PROPOSED FY 2026 BUDGET.
JUDGE, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME COME ON UP.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE GONNA BE RELATIVELY QUICK TO MOVE THROUGH.
THIS ONE MAY NOT BE, OR BRIANNA, YOU TELL ME.
NO, IT, I THINK IT'LL BE RELATIVELY QUICK, BUT IF YOU WANNA, YOU THINK, THINK THIS WILL? YEAH.
UM, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO F ON THE APPLYING FOR SB 22.
IF WE CAN ALSO ADD TO ACCEPT AND SIGN THE, UM, UNDERLINE AGREEMENT.
SO I AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GET THOSE AND NOT HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THOSE.
LILA, DID YOU GET THAT? THANK YOU.
JUDGE, ALL I WAS GONNA SUGGEST WAS IF WE WANTED TO KNOCK OUT SOME OF THESE REAL QUICK ONES, TAKE A BREAK AND THEN COME BACK TO G.
UH, WE ON THE ITEM F DID WE, IS THAT ALREADY HANDLED? YES.
WHERE WE CALL G THE LAST THING.
SO JUDGE, IF WE CAN SKIP G KNOCK OUT THE REST OF THESE, TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK TO G.
SO WE STILL NEED TO COME BACK TO G? YES.
[8.H. Waive 10-day postings for two Operator positions in Precinct One. (Commissioner Conley) ]
MOVE TO ITEM H ON WAIVE 10 DAY POSTINGS FOR TWO OPERATOR POSITIONS IN PRECINCT ONE.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION GRACE FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM
[8.J. Approve External Indexing Services with Tyler Technologies for the County Clerks Records and Deeds Office. Contract will be paid with special funds collected for records archives. (Lila Deakle / Judge Deen) ]
J ON APPROVED EXTERNAL INDEXING SERVICES WITH TITLE TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE COUNTY CLERK'S.RECORDS AND DEEDS OFFICE CONTRACT WILL BE PAID WITH SPECIAL FUNDS COLLECTED BY RECORD ARCHIVES.
AND WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS, IT'S JUST GONNA PIECE TOGETHER TWO, UM, TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS I HAVE GOING.
IT'S GONNA CONNECT MY UH, US IMAGING, UH, AUTO INDEXING WITH TYLER IS JUST UH, GONNA CONNECT THE TWO PROJECTS.
MOTION COMMISSIONER HOLD SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM
[8.K. Renewal Agreement with Career and Technical Education Internship Agreement with Weatherford !SD and the County Attorney's Office. (John Forrest/ Judge Deen)]
K RENEWAL AGREEMENT WITH CAREER IN TECHNICAL EDUCATION INTERNSHIP AGREEMENT WITH WEATHERFORD ISD AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.AND THIS A CONTINUATION AGREEMENT WITH THE WISD TO UTILIZE INTERNS AT OUR OFFICE.
A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM L,
[8.L. Renewal Agreement with the Regional Public Defender for Capital Cases. (John Forrest/ Judge Deen) ]
RENEW AGREEMENT WITH THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR CASES.AND THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT BASICALLY PROVIDES INSURANCE TO THE COUNTY AND THE EVENT OF A CAPITAL CASE.
SO IT MINIMIZES THE COST TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM
[8.M. Approve the Interlocal Agreement for Road Repairs with the City of Willow Park and take any action the court deems necessary. (John Forrest I Judge Deen) ]
IN APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD REPAIRS WITH THE CITY OF OLA PARK AND TAKE ANY ACTION.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH MOVE
[8.N. Order 25-22 for the disposition by cremation of a pauper and authorize payment of $850 to Galbreaith Pickard Funeral Chapel & Cremation Services for disposition of an indigent person. (John Forrest I Judge Deen) ]
TO ITEM N ORDER 25 DASH 22 FOR THE DISPOSITION OF CREMATION ON A OF A POPPER AND AUTHORIZED PAYMENT OF EIGHT 50 TO GAR PICKER FUNERAL CHAPEL AND CREMATION SERVICE WAS DISPOSITION OF AN INDIGENT PERSON.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION IN CARRIED FIVE OH MOVE
[9. ACCEPT INTO THE MINUTES]
TO ITEM NINE EXCEPT INTO THE MINUTES.PARKER COUNTY, ISD NUMBER SIX, FINANCIAL REPORT.
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VETERAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT COURT REPORT ITEM C.EXECUTED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HOO COUNTY WITH PARKER COUNTY TO PLA 16.235 ACRES OF LAND IN A SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS TIMBER VIEW RESERVE PHASE ONE THAT IS INSIDE HOOD COUNTY.
TAKING ANY ACTION IN THE COURT NAMES NECESSARY.
ITEM D, EXECUTED AUTOMATIC BANK DRAFT AUTHORIZATION TRINITY RESOURCE PARTNERS.
D-B-A-T-R-P INCORPORATED FOR AUTO REGISTRATION TRANSACTIONS.
ITEM E EXECUTED AUTOMATED BANK DRAFT AUTHORIZATION TEXAS AUTO HUNTERS FOR AUTO REGISTRATION TRANSACTIONS.
ITEM B EXECUTED AUTOMATIC BANK DRAFT AUTHORIZATION.
TYLER FARRO AUTO SALES FOR AUTO REGISTRATION TRANSACTIONS.
ITEM G EXECUTED AUTOMATIC BANK DRAFT AUTHORIZATIONS.
CENTENNIAL AUTO SALES INCORPORATED FOR AUTO REGISTRATION TRANSACTIONS.
ITEM H EXECUTED AUTOMATIC BANK DRAFT AUTHORIZATION ALL PRO EQUIPMENT AND AUTO LLC FOR AUTO REGISTRATION TRANSACTIONS.
CDW AGREEMENT EXECUTED ITEM J MORING PCSO AND DISPATCH EXPANSION CO NUMBER TWO, EXECUTED ITEM K, EXECUTED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PARKER COUNTY AND THE RENO FOR DISPATCH SERVICES TO THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
ITEM L EXECUTED IN THEM TO MUNICIPAL COUNTY CONTRACT FOR ROAD REPAIR WITH THE TOWN OF PESTER FOR HARWELL LAKE ROAD.
ITEM M EXECUTED ADDENDUM TO MUNICIPAL COUNTY CONTRACT FOR ROAD REPAIR IN THE CITY OF ALITO FOR UNDERWOOD ROAD ITEM N EXECUTED IN LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR FIRE MARSHAL AND FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT SERVICES BETWEEN PARKER COUNTY AND PARKER COUNTY MARSH SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THOSE ARE ENTERED IN THE MINUTES.
[10. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
10 ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.ACCORDANCE WITH SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1 AND OH SEVEN TWO AND OH SEVEN FOUR AND OH SEVEN SIX RESERVING THE RIGHT TO MEET AND CLOSE SESSION TO DISCUSS ITEM A INEC EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSION MEETING HELD PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1 2 AND 1 2 9 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CONSULT WITH SEEK ADVISEMENT ATTORNEYS REGARDING ITEM A, THE ACTIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, PARKER COUNTY ITEM B, LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO TEXAS COUNTY'S ITEM C.
ANY OTHER MATTER DESCRIBED IN THE MEETING AGENDA ITEM B.
UPDATE, DISCUSS PARKER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND IN JAIL AND TAKE ANY ACTION ACCORDING TO THESE NECESSARY ITEM C.
DISCUSS TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT TEN THREE THREE THREE EAST ETTE HIGHWAY IN ALITO, TEXAS.
ITEM D, DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON THE STRATEGIC PROJECTS COORDINATOR POSITION OF THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
ITEM E, FINAL UPDATE FROM THE SPACE PLANNING COMMITTEE.
THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AT 1109 AND TRY TO GET IN THERE AS SOON AS WE CAN.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING, UH, IN, IN RETURN TO FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS. UM, KIND OF MOVE SLOWLY HERE AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO GET IN HERE.
WE MOVE TO ITEM 10 ON THE ITEMS DISCUSSING EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ITEM A.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION JUDGE? I'M MAKING A MOTION REGARDING THE, UH, ITEM WITH BAIRD HAMPTON BROWN WHERE WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE THE BAIRD HAMILTON BROWN WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE COUNTY ON DRAINAGE REVIEWS AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE TIME, AT A FUTURE DATE WE WOULD ALSO AUTHORIZE OR POTENTIALLY AUTHORIZE BAIRD HAMPTON BROWN TO WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEY AT BICKERSTAFF TO REVIEW ALL OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
SO I AM NOW ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE SHANNON NAY WITH BAIRD HAMPTON BROWN WORKING ON ALL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AS THEY'RE UNDER REVIEW WITH BICKERSTAFF.
KIM, DID THAT GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? BRIANON.
I JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, INITIALLY IT WAS UM, IN ORDER TO GO INTO THERE'S TWO STATEMENT OF WORKS AND SEPARATE BUDGETS.
SO TO GO INTO THAT SECOND TIER COURT HAD VOTED THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COURT, UM, TO AUTHORIZE BAIRD, HAMPTON AND BROWN TO WORK ON THOSE ITEMS. MM-HMM
THE CONTRACT SAID THAT ANY SINGLE MEMBER OF COURT, UM, COULD BASICALLY
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AUTHORIZE THEM TO DO THAT.SO I GUESS IT'S, IS THE WORDING OKAY.
IN THE CONTRACT FOR ANY MEMBER OF COURT TO AUTHORIZE OR I GUESS AT THIS POINT THE COURT IS AUTHORIZING I THINK THE FULL BUDGET.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC FOR HIM TO WORK WITH THE OUTSIDE ATTORNEY ON THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS NOT TO COME AND DO INDIVIDUAL WORK AS AN ENGINEER FOR THE COUNTY.
I, I THINK THERE WERE THE TWO STATEMENT OF WORK.
SO AS LONG AS WE'RE AUTHORIZED OR THE COURT IS AUTHORIZING THAT SECOND PART OF THE BUDGET TO WORK ON THOSE ITEMS, THEN I GUESS THE WAY THE WORDING IS IS OKAY, TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
RIGHT? ONE SHANNON IS LOOKING AT DRAINAGE ISSUES IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME UP.
SECOND ITEM WAS SHANNON IS GONNA WORK WITH THE ATTORNEYS AT BICKER STAFF WHO ARE REHAULING OR OR UPDATING OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS NON ON ANY, YEAH, ON ANY ITEM.
SO SHANNON IS WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY AT BICKERSTAFF ON ALL ENGINEERING RELATED ITEMS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
SO MR. KIMBRO IS TAKING LEAD WITH BIGGER STAFF TO UPDATE ALL OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGS.
WE ARE ASKING SHANNON TO WORK WITH MR. KIMBRO ON THAT BECAUSE MR. KIMBRO HAS COME BACK ON ALL THE ENGINEERING SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND SAID, HEY, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, GET SOMEBODY TO DO THIS.
WE'VE ASKED SHANNON TO DO THAT.
SO THAT CONTRACT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU ARE AUTHORIZING THAT FULL CONTRACT AT THIS POINT? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, DONE.
DISCUSS PARKER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER IN JAIL.
MOVE TO ITEM SEAL, DISCUSS TAKE ACTION.
REGARDING PROPERTY LOCATED AT TEN THREE TWO THREE EAST BANK HIGHWAY, ALITO, TEXAS.
HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PARCEL 11 APPRAISAL FOR THE OFFER PREPARATION FOR MT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT TEN THREE THIRTY THREE EAST BAN HIGHWAY, ALITO, TEXAS FOR THE ING EAST BANKHEAD HIGHWAY PROJECT FROM SOUTH RANCH HOUSE ROAD FROM 1187.
OKAY, MOTION MOVE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FIVE VOTE.
MOVE TO ITEM D ON DISCUSS THAT ACTION ON STRATEGIC PROJECTS COORDINATOR POSITION AND THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE WILL TAKE NO ACTION.
MOVE TO ITEM E ON FINAL UPDATE ON THE SPACE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT AS WELL.
OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM EIGHT G ON THE PRESENT.
DISCUSS PROPOSED FY 2026 BUDGET? I THINK SO.
YOU WANT READ? GO AHEAD, COME ON.
HE HASN'T GIVEN ME THE, DO YOU HAVE THE COVER WAS I DON'T THEY HAVE ALL THAT? YEAH.
RICH, DO YOU HAVE THE COVER? HUH? YEAH.
I'D ASKED FOR IT TO BE PRINTED, BUT SO THE JUDGE'S PROPOSED BUDGET WAS FILED, UH, AUGUST 8TH.
UM, I HAD FURNISHED A COPY TO THE COURT, UM, AND HAD THAT FILE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND IT IS ALSO POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTE, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
UH, IT WILL BE ADVERTISED AS, UM, THE STATUTE REQUIRES GIVING AT LEAST 10 DAYS NOTICE BEFORE THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, WHICH WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY IN OUR CALENDAR OF WHEN THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE, WILL BE HELD AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COURT, WHICH WILL BE, UM, AUGUST 25TH AT 9:00 AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COURT, HOWEVER, IT, UM, IT WILL BE ON THAT DAY.
SO, AND BRIDGE IS PRINTING THAT COVER TOMORROW.
UM, WE'LL START OUR BUDGET COURT MEETINGS AND SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT MEETING I WILL GO THROUGH, UM, THE PROPERTY TAX PROJECTIONS.
UM, I'VE PROVIDED THOSE TO YOU.
ALL THE, UM, JUDGE'S PROPOSED BUDGET DID USE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH EACH PIECE, EACH PIECE, UM, OF THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL REVENUE FOR THE COURT, UM,
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CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN PRIOR YEARS.UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS MORE YOUR BARE BONES BUDGET.
IT IS THE OPERATING, IT INCLUDES ANY SORT OF INCREASE IN THE OPERATING BUDGETS AS, UM, SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY CAP, NON CAP IT, UM, OR NEW SALARIES.
SO THE SALARY AND BENEFITS USED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET ARE THOSE OF THE PRIOR YEAR AND I WILL LET THE JUDGE GO OVER.
THE, UM, PARKER COUNTY JUDGES 20 25, 20 26 PROPOSED BUDGET.
IT WILL RAISE MORE PROPERTY TAXES AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $3,823,132 OR 4.8%, 2,934,229 FOR THE GENERAL FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
511,592 FOR THE LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.
500 $511,000 IS 592 500 $11,592 FOR THE LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.
AND 377,311 FOR DEBT SERVICE OF THAT AMOUNT, 3.3 MILLION 251,646 OR 85% IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM A NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR.
THE TAX RATE USED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE SAME AS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE ON THE GENERAL FUND, THE M AND O, THE CURRENT RATE OF 0.00 0.1 8 5 2 6 2.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS 0.1 7 8 5 6 2.
THE DEBT SERVICE, THE CURRENT RATE IS 0.0 6 0 6 7 6.
THE PROPOSED RATE IS 0.056460.
THE LATTER ROAD OF BRIDGE, THE CURRENT RATE IS 0.0 5 3 300.
THE PROPOSED RATE IS 0.0 5 0 0 4 8.
THE CURRENT TOTAL TAX RATE ZERO 0.2 9 9 2 3 8 PROPOSES 0.285070.
AND WE'LL BE SURE TO GET THESE COPIES OUT.
AND SO AGAIN, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT IN MORE DETAIL.
UH, TOMORROW, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY A NOTIFICATION THAT THE, UM, PROPOSED BUDGET WAS FILED AND STARTS THE TIMELINE FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT'LL, UH, CONTINUE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT.
I THOUGHT WE TOOK ACTION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
IT'S JUST SUBMITTED IN THE MINUTES.
KIM, DO WE TAKE ACTION ON THAT? NO, NO.
[11.A. PRECINCT 1]
MOVE TO PLATZ ON ITEM 11.ACCEPT THE PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION STONE CREEK AND PRECINCT ONE.
UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, TWO STREETS.
THAT'S, UH, GOING INTO A NEW SUBDIVISION AND PRECINCT.
ONE SUPREME COURT AND COLLINS STREET IS FOR $670,000 AND 26, UH, FOR THE PERFORMANCE BOND.
OKAY, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
SAY GOODBYE COMMISSIONER HALE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
CURIOUS FIVE OH, MOVE TO ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE PARKER COUNTY SUBDIVISION RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PARKER COUNTY, OSSF RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY OFF NEW HOPE ROAD IN THE SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS HILLTOP ACRES AND PRECINCT ONE.
UH, THIS IS A WAIVER FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY OFF THE NEW HODE ROAD.
UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE 60 FEET WIDE AND IT'S JUST SHY OF THAT.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE SHORT, JUST SHORT LITTLE DEAD IN THE STREET.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.
ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH.
MOVE TO ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS HILLTOP ACRES WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTING OF 6.0 ACRES.
LOCATED OFF OF NEW HOPE ROAD AND DEVELOPED BY STEVE WENDY BENEY WITH WALNUT CREEK, S-U-S-U-D IN PRECINCT ONE.
THIS IS A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION, LOT ONE IS FIVE ACRES, LOT TWO IS ONE ACRE.
UH, IT HAS WALNUT CREEK IS UH, BIG SUD.
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SEE, UH, IT'S 35 MILES AN HOUR ON, UM, NEW HOPE ROAD COUNSELOR.EVERYTHING GOOD FOR FINAL? UH, YES, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER THROUGH WALNUT CREEK, SUD AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
THANK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY AND SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS THE BAR B RANCH, PHASE TWO OF THE ETJ CITY OF FORT WORTH WITH FOUR LOTS CONSISTS OF 16.093 ACRES DEVELOPED BY BARB BOA BOARDMAN LOCATED OFF THE FLAT ROCK ROAD WITH WARM WATER AND PRECINCT FOR ONE
UH, IN THIS LITTLE SUBDIVISION, UH, THE AQUA FIRE RANGES FROM 200 TO 260 FEET DEEP FEET WITH 15 TO 20 GALLONS PER MINUTE.
OKAY, MOTION WILL BE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FIVE OH.
MOVE TO ITEM FIVE, APPROVE THE REVISION FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS GREEN MEADOWS.
TWO WITH TWO LOTS CONSIST OF 4.0 ACRES, FOLLOWED BY TERRY AND ROBIN EDWARDS LOCATED OFF OF MANLEY LANE WITH WALNUT CREEK SUD IN PRECINCT ONE.
THIS IS FOUR ACRES AND LOTS, THEY'RE JUST REDOING LOTS.
UH, 16 THROUGH UH, TWO R TO TWO LOTS AND UH, I MEAN TWO ACRES AND LOT 16 FOUR R IS TWO ACRES AND THEY'RE SHARED DRIVEWAY EASEMENT AND UH, THEY'RE ON WALNUT CREEK.
IS THERE SOME, UH, SUD? OKAY, WE'LL OPEN THEM.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE? PRECINCT ONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1230.
COUNSEL EVERYTHING GOOD FOR A FINAL? UH, YES, PROPER NOTICE WHAT'S TO PLACED IN THE NEWSPAPER LIST THAN DATE, TIME, LOCATION, PURPOSE.
TODAY'S HEARING, THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATES ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER THROUGH WALNUT CREEK, SUD AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THE DIVISION OF THESE THAT ONE SENIOR LOT INTO TWO HAS MET ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS WISH MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH.
ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND OR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
ADDITION TO THE ETJ CITY OF SPRINGTOWN IN PRECINCT ONE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
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B ONE, PRECINCT TWO.APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY AND SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS ON TRAILS PHASE THREE WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTING OF 4.40 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF ZEBRA STONEMAN WAY DEVELOPED BY DENNIS, CHERYL, ADAM AND MCKAYLA MIDDLE WAITER.
I NO, I BUTCHERED THAT IN PRECINCT TWO.
MOTION MAY BY TO COMMISSIONER HOLT.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MAY BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL CARRIES FIVE OH.
BEGIN THE REVISION FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS ON TRAILS PHASE THREE WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTING OF 4.40 ACRES DEVELOPED BY DENNIS, CHERYL, ADAM AND MCKAYLA MIDDLE WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS UH, LITTLE SUBDIVISION, UH, IS TO, UH, THE DRIVEWAY IS ON OVERLAPPING ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE TRYING TO, UM, GET ITS FIXED.
IT'S TO UH, OVERLAP THE PROPERTY LINE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
CURIOUS FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM THREE, APPROVE THE FINAL PLA FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS SEALED ACRES WITH ONE LOT CONSIST OF 6.738 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF OLD, UH, OLD ADDRESS ROAD DEVELOPED BY DONALD AND RITA MALDEN, CO-TRUSTEE OF THE MALDEN FAMILY.
2021 IRREVOCABLE TRUST WITH WELL WATER AND PRECINCT TWO.
THIS IS JUST A ONE LOT, UM, PLOT THAT IS 6.738 ACRES OFF OF UH, FM 51 AND OB AGNES ROAD.
UH, THE GROUNDWATER WAS WAIVED ON SEVEN 20, UH, 8 25 AND IT'S 40 MILES AN HOUR ON THAT ROAD.
JOHN, WILL WE GO TO APPROVE THE FINAL FLAT? WE ARE AS FAR AS THE SPECIFICS, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE LINE'S GOING THROUGH A BUILDING, WHICH A LOT ARE WE DIVIDING?
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OKAY.OKAY, ARE WE GOOD? JOHN AND THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE TO INDICATE ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WAL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, ACCEPT A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED OFF OF OLD AGNES ROAD IN SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS SEALED ACRES IN PRECINCT TWO.
THIS IS A ACCEPTING AS SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED FOR 0.04.
OKAY, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
SERIES FIVE OH MOVE TO ITEM FIVE, APPROVE THE FINAL PLA SUBDIVISION BE KNOWN AS OXEN ACRES WITH TWO LOTS CONSISTENT OF 13.010 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF OXEN LANE DEVELOPED BY SYLVIA GILLIAN WITH OIL, WATER, AND PRECINCT TWO.
SHE IS DIVIDING HER UH, LOTS INTO HER ACREAGE INTO TWO LOTS.
LOT ONE IS GONNA BE 8.010 ACRES LOT TWO IS GONNA BE FIVE ACRES AND IT'S WELL AND IT'S BEEN, UH, THE WAIVER WAS ON 7 28 25.
AND JOHN, ARE WE GOOD TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN? DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATING ZERO BALANCE.
PERMITING HAS APPROVED PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY HAVE MET ALL THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
COMMISSIONER, MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLD SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE ITEM MOVE TO ITEM
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C PRECINCT.NOTIFICATION OF THE ORDER 2025 DASH 35 FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD FOR 17.819 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF COSBY ROAD IN BB FIELDER NOTIFICATION ONLY.
MOVE TO ITEM TWO, APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE GROUNDWATER STUDY FOR SUBDIVISION AND ONUS.
10 TOP ACRES WITH TWO LOTS CONSIST OF 11.136 ACRES IN PRECINCT THREE.
THIS WELL WAS DRILLED ON, UH, 4 22.
UH, IT YIELDED UH, 15 GPMS AT 50 FEET.
UH, DRAW DOWN FOR AFTER ONE HOUR.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOP LINE IS 150 AND THE BOTTOM DEATH IS 300.
THANK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE OH.
THE FINAL PLA FOR SUBDIVISION WILL BE KNOWN AS QUINTANA ACRES WITH ONE LOT CONSIST OF 0.969 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF HEREFORD LANE, DEVELOPED BY GALILEO, ANA AND LAURA WINNINGHAM WITH PARKER COUNTY, SUD IN PRECINCT THREE.
THIS IS A ONE ACRE LOT THAT'S 0.96, UH, NINE ACRES AND IT WAS, UM, WAIVED ON, UH, 7 28 25.
THE VARIANCE WARRANT FOR THE OSF IS EVERYTHING IN PLACE, JOHN, AND YES, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE.
THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED TAX CERTIFICATE WITH A ZERO BALANCE PERMITTING HAS APPROVED PUBLIC WATER, PARKER COUNTY, SUD, AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL, WHICH MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.
MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, ACCEPT THE SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY OFF OF HERFORD LANE FOR SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS QUIN ACRES.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
WISH MOVE ITEM FIVE, APPROVE THE FINAL VISION FOR THE SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS RANGE WOOD IN THIS ETJ CITY OF WEATHERFORD WITH THREE LIGHTS CONSIST OF SIX ACRES LOCATED OFF OF DEBRA WAY DEVELOPED BY W JONES REALTY HOLDINGS, L-L-C-L-B-K, HOMES AND HEIGHT CONSTRUCTION LLC WITH WALL WATER PRECINCT THREE.
IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING THE REVISION FOR THIS.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR THE, UH, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT FOR LOSS, 24, 25 AND 26.
THEY JUST REROUTED THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND PROPER NOTICE WAS PLACED IN NEWSPAPER LIST THAN DATE AND TIME LOCATION PURPOSE TODAY HEARING THEY DO HAVE A ZERO BALANCE FOR THEIR TAX CERTIFICATE AND THEY HAVE PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL AS APPROVED BY PERMITTING.
WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1237.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE, PRECINCT THREE? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1237 AND MOVE TO THE ITEM AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALL AND SAVE BY COMMISSIONER HOL THAT DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
HERE'S FIVE OH ITEM SIX, NOTIFICATION OF THE RELEASE OF THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD DTJ FOR 145 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF COBY ROAD IN OLD AIRPORT ROAD IN PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT FOUR.
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LUKE TWO, ITEM D[11.D. PRECINCT 4 ]
IN PRECINCT FOUR.ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE FINAL REVISION FOR A ATION KNOWN AS LAKE RIDGE RANCHES IN THE ETJ CITY OF WEATHERFORD, I'M SORRY, CITY OF FORT WORTH WITH 43 LOTS CONSISTED OF 113.39 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF WHITE SUMMIT ROAD DEVELOPED BY JRM LAND AND CATTLE COMPANY WITH ABOVE WATER AND PRECINCT FOR IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS SUBDIVISION, WE WERE JUST, UM, REMOVED THE HISTORICAL EASEMENT, UM, OFF OF THE, THE PLAT.
IT WAS AN IT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM D ONE, PRECINCT FOUR.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1238 AND MOVE TO THE ITEM AND PROPER NOTICE WAS LISTED TO THE PAPER LISTED TO DATE, TIME, LOCATION OF PURPOSE TODAY HEARING THE TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATES A ZERO BALANCE PERMIT HAS APPROVED PUBLIC, OR I'M SORRY, PRIVATE WATER AND PRIVATE WASTE DISPOSAL.
AND WE DID GET A RELEASE OF EASEMENT FROM THE, UM, SE AND THE DOMINANT TENEMENT OF THAT EASEMENT.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT AGREEMENT FROM THOSE PARTIES AS WELL.
OKAY, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.
SAY GOODBYE COMMISSIONER CONNELLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FIVE OH.
ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE TO ADJOURN.
THE RECORD SHOW WILL ADJOURN AT 1239.
I NEED Y'ALL TO SIGN THE