* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] UH, GOOD MORNING. [Call to Order] I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPECIAL AGENDA, UH, FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2025. UH, THE RECORD SHOW. IT IS 9 0 1, AND [Items I.A and I.B] TO MOVE TO CONSIDER DISCUSSING ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING. AGENDA ITEMS UNDER ITEM ONE, PRESENT, DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 25, 26 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM A ON PRESENT. DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FY 25 26. BRIANNA, GOOD MORNING. SO I HAVE PUT A PACKET, UM, IN FRONT OF Y'ALL THAT I WILL BE GOING OVER. UM, AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, THE, UH, JUDGE'S PROPOSED BUDGET WAS FILED ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 8TH. UM, A COPY WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, AND IT HAS ALSO BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. UH, WE WILL BE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE, AND THAT'LL BE TAKING PLACE ON AUGUST 25TH, UM, DURING COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO, JUDGE, DEAN, WILL YOU PRESS THE BUTTON FOR THIS? I HAVE IT ALL. WHY IS IT NOT SHOWING MY FILE? OKAY, HOLD ON. THAT'S FINE. DO YOU KNOW WHY MY, THAT'S OKAY, MIKE. I'M LIKE, THAT'S MY SCREEN. LET'S SEE. I HAVEN'T HEARD, I DON'T KNOW. WHOSE SCREEN IS IT? IT'S MINE, I THINK. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAD A SECOND SCREEN PLUGGED IN. I WONDER IF IT'S LIKE TRYING TO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW THIS, BUT THE DISPLAY IS WEIRD. I THINK IT'S LIKE THINKING. I HAVE A EXTERNAL SCREEN. JUDGE. DO WHAT MIKE? HE'S NOT COMING TODAY. HE'S NOT COMING TODAY? NO. OKAY. YEAH, NO, I'VE ALREADY SENT HIM A MESSAGE, BUT HOLD ON. SORRY. HE DID NOT TELL ME THAT HE DID. YEAH. HUH? HE DID HAVE WHICH ONES JUDGE? I'D LIKE GO TO ITEM I. THAT'S WHAT IT VOTE ON PRECINCT ALLOCATIONS. RIGHT NOW IT THINK I HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW WHY. CAN I LIKE, MAKE THAT OTHER SCREEN GO AWAY? YEAH, YOU CAN DELETE. IT DOESN'T, OH, IT'S NOT THIS. OKAY, HOLD ON. THERE WE GO. NOW I, WELL, WE FIGURED IT OUT. HOLD ON. NOW IT'S LIKE THE WHOLE COMPUTER. OKAY. OKAY. KEEP CHANGES NOW. IT SHOULD WORK STRUGGLING. THERE WE GO. I THINK SCREEN WILL COME BACK TO, SORRY, NOW, NOW MY SCREEN IS, I WAS TRYING TO, SO EVERYONE ELSE CAN, CAN SEE WHAT I HAVE, BUT OKAY. OKAY. AND WHO'S GOT MY COMPUTER'S? LIKE, YEAH, NO, IF I'M DONE. OKAY. IT'S BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE MY SECOND SCREEN ON THIS PLUGGED IN AND IT WAS DISPLAYING, SO I FIXED THE DISPLAY, BUT I THINK I, YEAH, I THINK WE, UH, IT'S OKAY. OKAY. WAY TO START THE BUDGET. , COME ON. SORRY. I WAS READY. I HAD IT ALL OPEN AND TECHNOLOGY. OKAY. I MAY JUST GO WITH, YOU HAVE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. YES. YES. SO I WAS TRYING TO LET THE AUDIENCE SEE, BUT WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST GO WITH IT. OKAY. UM, SO THIS TOP SECTION GOES OVER TAX RATE. UM, SO [00:05:01] AGAIN, OUR TAX RATE IS BROKEN INTO THREE DIFFERENT PIECES. WE HAVE OUR GENERAL FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, OUR INTEREST IN SINKING, AND THEN THE LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IN THAT FIRST COLUMN IS OUR CURRENT RATE, WHICH IS 0.2 9 9 2 3 8. AND THE PROPOSED RATE THAT WAS USED IN THE JUDGE'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE SAME AS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE IN EACH OF THOSE PIECES, THERE'S A DECREASE, UM, FOR A TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.2 8 5 0 7 0, AND IT'S ALMOST A, UM, ONE AND A HALF CENT DECREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, UM, HOW THAT EQUATES INTO REVENUE PROJECTION, YOU COULD SEE CURRENT, UM, REVENUE IS ABOUT 48.6 FOR GENERAL FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, 15.9 FOR DEBT SERVICE. AND THEN 14.7 FOR, UH, LATERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE WITH A PROJECTED REVENUE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN OF 79.2 MILLION. IF WE LOOK NOW AT THE PROPOSED RATE, AGAIN AT THAT, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UM, FOR GENERAL FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AT A 98.75 COLLECTION RATE, THAT'S 51 POINT ALMOST 6 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 2.9 MILLION OVER THE CURRENT YEAR. FOR OUR INTEREST IN SINKING IT'S 16.3, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 377,000. AND THEN FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, IT'S 15 POINT ALMOST TWO, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION. UH, SO OVERALL IT'S 3.8 MILLION, UM, OVER THE PRIOR YEAR WITH MOST OF THAT, I BELIEVE IT'S 84%, UM, FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION ADDED TO THE ROLE THIS YEAR. IF WE MOVE INTO THIS NEXT SECTION THAT GOES OVER OUR DEBT SERVICE, UM, IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR WE HAD A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR DEBT SERVICE, UM, THAT REQUIRED ADJUSTING THE TAX RATE TO PAY FOR THAT DEBT SERVICE. UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT INCREASE IS BECAUSE WE DREW DOWN, UH, THE FIRST TRANCHE OF THE NEW TRANSPORTATION BOND, AND IN FISCAL YEAR 25, WE MADE THOSE FIRST INTEREST, UM, AND PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS ON THAT. UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ACTUALLY, OUR DEBT SERVICE FROM 2025 TO 2026 HAS DECREASED, UM, ABOUT 787,000. UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE PAID OFF A TWO SERIES. SO I'M GONNA HAVE YOU GO TO THE NEXT, UM, PAGE, WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS FIRST PAGE, BUT, UM, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBT SERVICE, THIS SECOND, UH, PAGE IN YOUR PACKET SHOWS OUR DEBT SERVICE. UM, AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE WILL BE PAYING, UM, IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 26. UM, AND AGAIN, AT THE BOTTOM HERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE, IN FISCAL YEAR 25, WE PAID OFF GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS TAXABLE SERIES 2014, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BOND SERIES 2015. AND BECAUSE OF THOSE PAYOFFS, THAT'S WHY WE HAD, UM, OUR DEBT SERVICE DECREASE, UM, OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, UH, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF, OR A FEW YEARS, UM, THAT DEBT SERVICE RATE OR OUR, OUR DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENT WILL DECREASE A LITTLE BIT AND THEN, UM, INCREASE IN SOME OF THOSE, UH, LATER YEARS BASED ON PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS. AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE ALSO BE AFFECTED IS WHEN, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF WHEN WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, WE'LL DRAW DOWN THOSE REMAINING FUNDS. SO THAT'LL CHANGE FUTURE YEARS DEBT SERVICE WHEN WE DO THAT. BRIANNA, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, SIR. IS THERE A WAY, UM, OR CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING, IT LOOKS LIKE IF I THINK OF A MORTGAGE FOR A HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I THINK OF A MORTGAGE FOR A HOUSE AND YOU SET THAT UP, YOU PAY DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EVERY MONTH, BUT THEY ALWAYS COMBINE TO THE SAME, RIGHT? RIGHT. OUR BONDS AREN'T DOING THAT. UM, IS THERE A WAY TO ENGAGE IN THAT WAY WITH OUR BONDS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A MORE PREDICTABLE FUTURE CASH FLOW? OR CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHY IT'S SET UP THAT WAY? I THINK ONCE YOU ACTUALLY ISSUE THEM, UM, WHENEVER THEY'RE, WHENEVER WE ACTUALLY, UM, PUT IT OUT TO MARKET, UH, THEY STRUCTURE THOSE SERIES, AND I, I'M NOT, I HONESTLY AM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT GOES INTO EVERYTHING AND HOW THEY DO THOSE RATES. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S PREDICTION OF, RIGHT, THE MARKET CHANGING AND FLUCTUATIONS. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE SELLING THOSE OUT AT MARKET, KIND OF ATTRACTING THOSE INVESTORS. SO IS IT POSSIBLE THEY'RE BREAKING 'EM INTO TRANCHES WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO SECURE [00:10:01] LOWER INTEREST RATES OR, OR BETTER RETURNS OVERALL? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT JUST HAS TO DO DIFFERENT WITH MARKET PROJECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE OF HOW THEY STRUCTURE STRUCTURE THEM. OKAY. I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD, DO YOU MIND ASKING GEORGE MM-HMM . AT SOME POINT? NO RUSH ON THAT, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF THAT IS AN OPTION WE COULD AT LEAST LOOK AT SO THAT WE CAN PROJECT FUTURE OBLIGATIONS A LITTLE BIT STEADIER. OKAY. SO I CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IT'S PER, I HAVE IT NORMALLY HAVE A SECOND SCREEN, AND IT'S, AND I THINK THIS ONE IS, YEAH. OKAY. SO IF WE GO BACK AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT, UM, THAT 16.7 IS MADE UP OF AND WHAT THE SERIES ARE. AND SO IF WE GO BACK TO THIS SUMMARY SHEET, LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT, LET ME, OH, THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE SAW THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR DEBT SERVICE. UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT DEBT SERVICE RATE, UH, WE ALSO USED, UM, 500,000 OF FUND OF DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE TO REDUCE THAT RATE. UM, AND SO AGAIN, WE DO A FUND BALANCE PROJECTION, LOOK AT THAT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO DECREASE THAT RATE. UH, THE OTHER REASON WHY THAT RATE HAS DECREASED, SO KIND OF THREE, THREE, WELL, FOUR. SO YOU HAVE, UM, AS TAXABLE VALUE INCREASES, YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE IS GOING TO GO DOWN. SO WE HAVE THAT, UM, USING THAT 500,000 A FUND BALANCE. OF COURSE, AS WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DECREASE, UM, IN DEBT SERVICE. NO, SORRY, IT'S A INCREASE, INCREASE, I'M SORRY, , DRINK SOME MORE COFFEE. AND THEN FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, THE LEGISLATURE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, MADE US LOOK AT WHAT EXCESS COLLECTIONS THAT ARE. SO, UM, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES A PROJECTION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, RECEIVE FOR DEBT SERVICE. AND WE SET THAT RATE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, ANYTHING THAT WE RECEIVE OVER THAT, WHICH IS USUALLY FROM, UM, DELINQUENT TAXES, AND THEN ANY SORT OF INTERESTS AND PENALTIES, UM, BASICALLY THE LEGISLATURE LOOKED AT THAT AND DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS IN FUND BALANCE, SO YOU SHOULD BE USING THAT EXCESS COLLECTIONS. AND SO WE HAVE TO ADJUST THAT TAX RATE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM, SO YES. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS NEXT PART GOES THROUGH, LET'S SEE WHERE OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS AT. SO IF WE LOOKED AT OUR CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN, IT'S THE 2025 ADOPTED BUDGET. UM, THE TOTAL OF THAT IS 86.5 MILLION. UM, 8.6 OF THAT, ALMOST 8.7 IS COMING FROM FUND BALANCE. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, IT'S COMING IN AT 83.7 MILLION, UM, INCLUDED IN THAT, WHICH IS GOOD. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT IS COMING FROM FUND BALANCE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 2.7, ALMOST 2.8, UM, CONTINGENCY AMOUNT THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED, UM, BASED ON, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE APPROVED BY YOU ALL. UM, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A DECREASE, UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS KIND OF THE BARE BONES BUDGET, RIGHT? IT'S THE PRIOR YEAR, ALL OF OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS, AND THEN ANY INCREASES, UM, FOR OPERATING EXPENSES. BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE STATEMENT, IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY CAPITAL OR NON-CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS OR PRIOR YEAR APPROVALS HAVE BEEN ZEROED OUT OF THE BUDGET. UM, ANY INVESTMENTS IN IT, UH, WE HAVE CAP AND NON CAP, UM, ROLLOVERS. UH, THESE CAN EITHER BE FOR ITEMS THAT WE DON'T EXPECT TO RECEIVE BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'LL NEED TO ROLL OVER AND REAPPROPRIATE INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. OR WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS. AND IF THOSE AREN'T GONNA BE COMPLETED BY YEAR END, AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO ROLL OVER THOSE FUNDS AND HAVE THEM REAPPROPRIATED. UM, IT ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE WHICH BECKY WILL BE GOING OVER TODAY. UM, ANY SORT OF INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR, UM, LONGEVITY POLICY, UM, CHANGES IN OUR T-C-R-T-C-R-S CONTRIBUTION RATE, AND THEN OF COURSE ANY SORT OF CORRESPONDING FICA, UM, TAXES. UM, RELATED TO THAT, AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN NO, UH, [00:15:01] PROVISION FOR A COLA ANY SORT OF GENERAL SALARY INCREASES OR ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS FOR, UM, SALARIES FOR, UM, EMPLOYEES OR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS ANY SORT OF NEW, UM, EMPLOYEE REQUEST. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED OFF WITH A, UM, LET'S SEE, SORRY. ALL RIGHT. A BEGINNING CONTINGENCY OF ALMOST 2.8 MILLION. UM, AGAIN, THESE BELOW NUMBERS ARE ONLY FUND 10 ON DEPARTMENT REQUESTS. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT IN STW, SO THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. UM, SO WE HAVE CAP, NON CAP, UM, IT, WHICH IS RELATED TO THE, UM, REQUEST FOR THE RADIO NEW TOWER OF ABOUT 3.9, UM, CAP, NON CAP REQUESTS, ABOUT 2.4 MILLION, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OF 669,000 SALARY AND BENEFITS, UM, NEW FULL-TIME PART-TIME POSITIONS, AND ANY RECLASSIFICATION REQUESTS OF A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION, UH, NEW EMPLOYEE CAP, NON CAP REQUESTS, ABOUT 612,000. MY NUMBER MAY BE, UH, SLIGHTLY HIGHER. AT END OF YESTERDAY, WE WERE KIND OF RECONCILING SOME, UM, SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS, UM, THAT WILL BE GOING OVER IN FURTHER DETAIL LATER. AND THEN THE, SO PAY SCALE, BOTH CIVIL AND COMMISSION OF ABOUT 778,000. SO, UM, TOTAL REQUESTS OF ALMOST 10.4 MILLION. AGAIN, THOSE NUMBERS DON'T INCLUDE ANY SORT OF, UM, CAPITAL ROLLOVER THAT'LL NEED TO BE REAPPROPRIATED. AND THEN OF COURSE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, ANY SORT OF COLA FOR ALL, UM, EMPLOYEES. UM, AND THEN I PUT IN THERE SB 22 LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANT. UM, IF THE, IF WE GET THAT GRANT AND THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS WILL BE TO PURCHASE, UM, VEHICLES, THOSE VEHICLES WOULD BE IN THE ABOVE NUMBERS. AND SO I ADJUSTED, UM, ADJUSTED FOR THAT, UH, GRANT REVENUE BECAUSE WE BUDGETED IN A SEPARATE FUND. UM, SO THEN THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL USE IF ALL THOSE WERE APPROVED, INCLUDING AGAIN, THAT BEGINNING CONTINGENCY OF A LITTLE OVER 7 MILLION, THIS IS A POINT WHERE I LIKE TO PROJECT, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING OUT THERE, THAT THE BEGINNING CONTINGENCY IS 2.775 AND THE REQUESTS, UH, IF ALL GRANTED WERE 7.125 MILLION SO'S BIT OF DIFFERENCE THERE. YES. AND THEN COURSE NOT INCLUDING COLA. YES. NOT, NOT INCLUDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS. RIGHT. UM, LET ME GO OVER THE, OKAY, SO THIS OTHER SHEET YOU HAVE IS THE PROPERTY TAX PROJECTION. SO WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO START OFF WITH, WHICH I'VE SHOWED YOU ALL THIS BEFORE, IS, UM, I'VE INCLUDED FOR YOU GUYS THE CERTIFIED VALUES FOR BOTH, UH, GENERAL FUND AND ROAD AND BRIDGE. AND SO TO MAKE SURE THAT MY SPREADSHEET IS CALCULATING, UM, AS EXPECTED AND ACCURATELY, UM, I DO A CHECK, UH, FROM THE CERTIFIED VALUES I RECEIVE. SO AGAIN, THE CERTIFIED VALUES HAVE THE NEW VALUES WITH THE OLD TAX RATE. AND SO I POP THAT INTO MY SCHEDULE AND ON ALMOST 71.4 MILLION MY SPREADSHEETS CALCULATING WITHIN 15,000. UM, AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT ROAD AND BRIDGE, UM, ON THE 16 POINT, ALMOST 4 MILLION, IT'S CALCULATING WITHIN A DOLLAR 44. SO I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT MY SPREADSHEET IS CALCULATING AS EXPECTED. AND SO I ALWAYS DO THAT EXERCISE EACH YEAR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE PUT IN PUT IN THERE FOR LOOKING AT THAT NEW TAXABLE VALUE, UM, AND THEN NEW, UH, TAX ADDED TO THE ROLE AS WELL AS THAT FROZEN LEVY THAT EVERYTHING IS CALCULATING AS WE WOULD EXPECT. SO THE SPREADSHEET YOU HAVE, AGAIN, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS BUSY, BUT REALLY WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TAKING IS THAT NEW TAXABLE VALUE BREAKING OUT, UM, THE TAXABLE FROZEN 'CAUSE AGAIN, ALL OF THAT, UM, ANYONE THAT IS IN THAT IS NOT GOING TO, UM, HAVE THOSE INCREASES. AND SO WE ACTUALLY PUT THE ACTUAL TAX THAT IS EXPECTED FROM THOSE, AND THEN WE ALLOCATE THAT BETWEEN DEBT SERVICE AND OUR M AND O. UM, AND SO AGAIN, I'VE, UH, CALCULATED THAT BASED ON 98.75 COLLECTION RATE, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY IN LINE WITH WHAT HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING. AGAIN, [00:20:01] WE USUALLY COLLECT OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT BASED ON, UM, DELINQUENT TAXES WITH THOSE PENALTIES AND INTEREST, BUT WE ACTUALLY, UM, PROJECT THAT IN A SEPARATE LINE THAN IN THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX LINE. SO AGAIN, JUST FROM THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY THAT THIS CALCULATES WHAT THE, UM, ADDITIONAL INCREASE IS OVER THE PRIOR YEAR, KINDA INTERESTING BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION IS THAT, THAT WE HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION EVERY YEAR, THEREFORE THE, OUR, OUR TAXABLE VALUE SHOULD GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY EVERY YEAR, BUT IT DOESN'T. AND, UH, NEW TAXABLE, I'M, I'M SEEING THE AMOUNT THERE, BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE MORE TAXES THAT BECOME FROZEN EVERY YEAR AS WELL. CORRECT. AND SO THAT, THAT KEEPS IT FROM ROLLING UP, THAT ROLLS DOWN AS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BRINGS, BRINGS US BACK UP. RIGHT. THERE'S ALSO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS AN APPENDIX TO OUR BUDGET. IT'S, UM, POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND I FURNISHED IT TO EACH OF YOU, BUT THAT TAX RATE CALCULATION IS NOW, I BELIEVE, 80, 84 LINES. AND SO AGAIN, WHEN WE KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK OF WHAT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS PROJECTING, IT'S UM, IT'S CALCULATING THE RATE TO GENERATE THE SAME TAXES AS THE AMOUNT BEFORE. BUT A LOT OF THOSE VALUES AT THE TIME, THEY CERTIFY THE ROLE UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR. SOME OF THOSE HAVE CHANGED. YOU HAVE, UM, MOST OF THE HEARINGS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY THIS POINT, BUT THERE'S OTHER PENDING LITIGATION. UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ROLLBACKS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. AND SO ALL OF THOSE THROUGH THOSE 84 LINES, UM, ARE ADJUSTED, UM, FROM THE YEAR BEFORE AS WELL AS ONCE YOU GET INTO, AFTER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THAT'S WHEN YOU GET INTO YOUR DEBT SERVICE CALCULATIONS AS WELL AS ACCOUNTING FOR, UM, THE COUNTY DOES COLLECT THE SALES TAX, BUT WE TAKE A REDUCTION IN OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR THAT SALES TAX. AND SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR HERE. AND SO, YOUR HONOR, YES. SORRY, JUST FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING, DOES THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN EVERY YEAR, DOES IT ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION AT ALL? I MEAN, TAX AS TAXABLE VALUE, RIGHT? INCREASES YOUR RATE'S GOING DOWN. AND SO WHAT YOU DO IS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THESE STEPS, YOU TAKE THE, I GUESS AGAIN, IT'S 84 LINES, IT'S COMPLICATING, BUT TO SIMPLIFY IT, YOU TAKE THE TAXABLE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU LEVIED THE YEAR BEFORE DIVIDED BY THAT TAXABLE VALUE TO GENERATE A RATE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS SAME, SAME AS LAST YEAR, IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, WHICH YES, WITH A NO NEW REVENUE RATE. YES. AND, AND, AND BRIANNA, I THINK YOU'RE A FANTASTIC ACCOUNTANT. I MEAN THAT WITH ALL THE SINCERITY IN MY HEART, UM, TO MY, TO MY PERCEPTION OF IT, NO, IT DOESN'T REALLY CAPTURE INFLATION. AND SO IF, IF, IF OUR COSTS TO RUN THE COUNTY, UH, LABOR EQUIPMENT, SUBCONTRACTED COSTS, WHATEVER, RISE BY 5% DUE TO INFLATIONARY PRESSURE, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS NOT GOING TO KEEP TRACK WITH THAT AT ALL. THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE EASIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT IS WHAT I SAID IS IF YOU KNOW EACH YEAR REALLY HAVING A LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE ADOPTING A NO NEW REVENUE RATE OTHER THAN OTHER, YOU KNOW, SOURCES OF REVENUE, ARE WE HAVING NO NEW EXPENSES? RIGHT? RIGHT. , BUT WE ARE, AND WE KNOW THAT WE ARE EVERY SINGLE SURE. UM, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT OR ANYTHING ELSE, UM, HAVE INCREASES IN DON'T WRONG. SO OTHER THAN THE SMALL AMOUNT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, YES, IT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S GENERATING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE. SO AS YOUR EXPENSES ARE INCREASING, IF YOU'RE ADOPTING THAT, YOU'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR IT FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE ONES OF, OF Y'ALL THAT ARE LISTENING AND WATCHING ONLINE. NOT, NOT DOZENS BUT ONES, UM, I, UH, IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE I AM, I JUST WANT TO ALWAYS POINT OUT THAT IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION AT ALL. AND SO IT CAN BE A BIT MISLEADING. IF A COUNTY THEORETICALLY WERE TO HOLD TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR FOREVER, EVERY YEAR, THEIR PURCHASING POWER IS GOING TO BE ERODED BY HOWEVER MUCH INFLATION INCREASED. RIGHT? AND ONE REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR, WHICH IS HUGE, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN DEBT SERVICE AND YOUR M AND O. AND SO WE SAW THAT LAST YEAR, RIGHT? IS WE HAD NEW CONSTRUCTION YET FOR THE GENERAL FUND AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. WE ACTUALLY HAD A DECREASE OF OVER $2 MILLION. AND SO THE REASON IT WASN'T RIGHT THAT WE DECREASED, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS BASICALLY YOU'RE PUSHING MORE OF THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO COVER YOUR DEBT SERVICE THAT YOUR GENERAL FUND IS PAYING FOR. AND SO THAT WAS PART OF ADJUSTING THAT RATE LAST YEAR, IS TO ADJUST IT SO THAT WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VOTED ON, UH, DEBT AND SO IT WAS ADJUSTING [00:25:01] THAT RATE TO ACCOUNT AND THEN PAY FOR THAT DEBT ONCE WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT CAME TIME TO PAY THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS. SO ITEM IT DOES NOT DO THAT. LAST ITEM, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL POP OFF THIS NO NEW REVENUE RATE DISCUSSION. THE LAST ITEM THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR, FOR US THAT APPLIES HEAVILY FOR PARKER COUNTY IS AS WE GET MORE PEOPLE AND OUR JAIL STAYS THE SAME SIZE, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR MORE TRANSPORT TO OUT OF COUNTY. SO IF WE HAD TO PAY 2 MILLION LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE TO PAY 2.5 OR 3 MILLION THIS YEAR, A NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS NOT GOING TO CAPTURE THAT OFFSET AT ALL. THAT'S CORRECT. WHICH IF WE USE A NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THEN MEANS THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO TAKE THAT FROM OTHER COUNTY OPERATIONS OR WE HAVE TO BORROW IT AGAINST FUND BALANCE. THAT IS CORRECT, YES. AND THAT WOULD BE OUR LARGEST RIGHT CONTRACT SERVICE. AND I WOULD THINK IN EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, PRETTY MUCH WE SEE YEAR OVER YEAR SOME SORT OF INCREASE IN THAT. UM, SO WE WENT OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, PROPOSED BUDGET. SO THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIRED LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE REVENUE, UM, IS BEING GENERATED AND HOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS COMING FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND SO WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM IS THIS CALCULATION HERE. SO, UM, PROJECTED NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, FOR ALL THREE, UM, ROAD AND BRIDGE GENERAL FUND INS IS ABOUT ALMOST 3.3 MILLION. UM, IF WE LOOK AT THAT INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR, IT'S ABOUT, UM, 4.8%. SO IF WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT PERCENT OF THAT IS, UM, INCREASE FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S 85% OF THAT, UM, OF, OF THAT NEW NO OF THE NEW REVENUE. THAT'S WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM. UM, SO I WANT TO TAKE ONE MINUTE TO DISCUSS. LET'S SEE. OKAY, THAT'S KIND OF, LET'S SEE, DO THAT, SEE THE PAGE. OKAY. SO THIS IS BY KIND OF WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE WITH OUR, UM, FINANCIAL STATEMENT CAPTIONS, HOW OUR REVENUE BREAKS DOWN. UM, SO AGAIN, WE JUST HAD A IN-DEPTH DESTRUCT, UM, DISCUSSION ON, UH, PROPERTY TAX RATE, UM, AND THOSE CHANGES THERE. AND SO IF WE LOOK AT INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, UM, THE PRIMARY INCREASE IS DUE HERE, UM, TO THE SRO, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SRO CONTRACT WITH THE ISDS. AND SO, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL BE BRINGING THOSE NEW CONTRACTS AND RATES, UM, TO THE COURT, UM, COMING UP. AND SO THOSE ARE WITH THOSE ENTITIES NOW. AND SO, UM, THERE'S SOME INCREASES THERE. UM, ONE, UH, DECREASE THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, WAS JUST FOR WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM COG. SO WE ACTUALLY, UM, THERE WAS A 38, 30 $8,900 DECREASE FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE IN. AND WHAT THAT WAS IS LAST YEAR OR IN THE CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE IN, UM, WE WERE REIMBURSED FOR A RECORDER FROM 9 1 1. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE RENEWAL CONTRACT, THAT FUNDING HAS DECREASED. AND SO WE'RE RECEIVING HALF OF WHAT WE NORMALLY RECEIVE, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, UM, THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY ZEROED OUT AND WE WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FROM THAT. UM, SALE OF ASSETS. AGAIN, WE NEVER KNOW. THIS IS WHEN UM, THINGS GO TO AUCTION, UM, AND WHAT FUNDS WE RECEIVE FROM THAT. AND SO WE USUALLY ARE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE RECEIVE MORE, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS OR IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT THEN, UM, SOMEONE SELLS AND IF THEY'RE NEEDING TO CERTIFY IT, WE DON'T WANNA SET IT TOO HIGH SO THAT WAY THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE SELLING AND NEEDING TO REPLACE IN THE CURRENT YEAR. SO, UM, A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE. UH, IF WE LOOK AT FEES OF OFFICE, UM, THE PRIMARY INCREASE IS FROM COUNTY CLERK, UH, DEEDS AND RECORDS. UM, AND THEN THE STATE SALARY SUPPLEMENT. SO, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I GAVE YOU ALL, UH, THE SHEET, I BELIEVE IT, IS IT SENATE BILL 2 93? DO YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF I HAVE THE WHAT IT'S RIGHT. BUT, UM, THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE STATE [00:30:01] OFFICES AND CCL JUDGES, UM, WILL RECEIVE AND PAY. UM, AND SO WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE STATE TO HELP OFFSET THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW, UM, SALARIES. AND SO WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE 84,000, UM, FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS. AND SO THAT WILL GO UP TO 105,000. AND WHAT'S THAT, WHAT THAT IS BASED OFF OF IS, UM, WE RECEIVE 60% OF THE BASE SALARY OF A DISTRICT JUDGE. AND SO I'VE ADJUSTED, UM, FOR INCREASE IN THOSE SUPPLEMENTS, UM, AS WELL AS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE STATE, UM, FOR THAT POSITION AS WELL. CURRENTLY WE RECEIVE 84,000 AGAIN THAT WILL GO UP, UM, TO 1 0 5. AND SO I'VE ADJUSTED, UM, FOR RECEIPT OF THOSE, UM, FUNDS. UM, WE HAD A SLIGHT, UH, DECREASE IN, IN SOME OF THE OTHER FEES OF OFFICES AS WELL AS JUST SOME INCREASES. SO KIND OF THE NET THERE YOU SEE IS AN INCREASE OF 124,000. UM, WE SEE A BIG INCREASE IN INTEREST, UM, A MILLION DOLLARS. I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BECKY, UM, TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT. SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT ON THE GENERAL FUND TO PROJECT THAT INTEREST BECAUSE WE HAVE, I WANNA SAY 50 PLUS SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. AND IF IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY STATUTE THAT THAT SPECIAL REVENUE FUND RETAINS THAT INTEREST, WE ACTUALLY DO A TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND SO MONTHLY WE DO AN INTEREST ALLOCATION. IT'S BASED ON FUND BALANCE. SO AGAIN, AS THOSE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS EITHER INCREASING DECREASING, THAT AFFECTS WHAT WE ULTIMATELY, UM, SEND TO THE GENERAL FUND AGAIN. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, CASH FLOW THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, ANY INCREASES OR DECREASES IN THAT FUND BALANCE BASE JUST ON CASH FLOW OF REVENUE AND EXPENSES. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WE'RE SEEING A REALLY STRONG, UM, REALLY AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, A REVENUE STREAM FOR INTEREST ALLOCATION. AND SO, UH, I'LL WORK WITH BECKY JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE, WHERE WE'RE BUDGETING THOSE, UM, OTHER REVENUE. SO WE HAVE A 1.6, UH, MILLION DOLLARS PROJECTED INCREASE. UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY DUE TO SALES TAX. UM, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A REALLY STRONG, UM, SALES TAX PROJECTION, UM, AS WELL AS INCREASES. AND SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT LINE BY 1.4 MILLION. UM, UH, ONE ADDITIONAL THING, IF YOU RECALL, UM, AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE ADOPTING THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN, UM, WE HAD COMPLETELY ZEROED OUT THE REVENUE LINE FOR THE GEL, UM, TELEPHONE REVENUE. UM, THERE HAD BEEN FCC GUIDANCE BASICALLY THAT CAME OUT, UM, GOING TO CHANGE ALL THOSE RATES. AND SO BASED ON, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD, UM, WE HAD ZEROED IT OUT BASED ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA RECEIVE. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE THAT THERE WAS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, UM, THAT BASICALLY, UM, CHANGED THE PREVIOUSLY RELEASED FCC RULE. UM, AND SO WE DID NOT ACTUALLY END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, A, A DECREASE OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT REVENUE STREAM, UM, COMPLETELY SEIZED SO THAT THAT'S GOOD. UM, THEY ARE ALSO IMPLEMENTING, UM, TABLETS IN THE GEL, UM, THAT HAS TEXT MESSAGING AND VIDEO CON CALL, UM, CAPABILITIES. AND SO BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WE FELT VERY CONFIDENT TO INCLUDE THAT REVENUE BACK INTO OUR STREAM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. UM, THE OTHER INCREASES, UH, DISPATCH CONTRACT AND THEN THE CONVENIENCE CENTER. SO AGAIN, SAME THING WITH THE SRO CONTRACTS. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL BE BRINGING THOSE DISPATCH, UH, CONTRACTS BEFORE THE COURT, UM, FOR EXECUTION. AND SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO ANY OF THOSE, UM, WE WILL UPDATE THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS ACCORDINGLY. BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE THOSE INCREASED RATES BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS PROVIDED ME. UM, ONE CHANGE, UM, IN REVENUE THAT UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING TO YOU ALL IS FOR OVERSIZE OVERWEIGHT REVENUE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE, I MEAN OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM GOES BACK TO 2008. UM, WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING IT SINCE THEN. UM, I HERE RECENTLY, UH, TDOT HAD REQUESTED, UM, A CERTAIN REPORT, UM, WHICH IT WAS ROAD AND BRIDGE EXPENDITURES AND REVENUE AND DIFFERENT THINGS. AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IT WAS REQUESTING IS IF WE RECEIVE ANY OVERSIZE OVERWEIGHT REVENUE. SO BECAUSE IT WAS A ROAD AND BRIDGE REPORT OR PRIMARILY DIRECTED AT THAT, UM, I ASKED PAM IN MY OFFICE IF SHE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT. 'CAUSE [00:35:01] IT MADE ME WONDER IF THAT IS BEING, UM, RECEDED CORRECTLY, UM, TO THE CORRECT FUND. AND SO WE ARE STILL, UH, WORKING ON THAT. UM, REACHING OUT TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO CONFIRM, UM, IF THE REVENUE WE ARE RECEIVING THERE IS IN FACT, UM, REVENUE UNDER, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, UM, CHAPTER 2 63 PERMITS FOR OVERSIZE OR OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES. UM, IF IT IS IN FACT THIS REVENUE, THEN THAT SHOULD BE REVENUE OF ROAD AND BRIDGE AND NOT GENERAL FUND. UM, AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, DURING THE 86 LEGISLATURE, WHICH WAS EFFECTIVE OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2019, UM, THE DISPOSITION AND USE OF THOSE PERMIT FEES IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DEPOSITED TO THE CREDIT OF ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND. AND SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, I HAVE ZEROED THAT OUT AT THE GENERAL FUND AND I HAVE BUDGETED THAT AT ROAD AND BRIDGE. UM, I WILL ALSO, ANY RECEIPTS FOR THE CURRENT YEAR MOVE THAT TO ROAD AND BRIDGE. UM, AGAIN, I WANT MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS IN FACT THAT REVENUE. AND SO WE ARE WAITING FOR THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO GET BACK TO US ON THAT. UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN ZEROED OUT AT THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT WILL BE A REVENUE OF ROADIN BRIDGE. WHAT'S THE AMOUNT, UM, RECEIVED LAST YEAR? SO WHAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR, WHERE'S MY SPREADSHEET HERE? WE RECEIVED FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY FOUR, A HUNDRED NINETY 9,000. WHAT WAS THE 500,000 EACH THAT WE RECEIVED? THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE. THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. YEAH. IS THAT A, SO THAT WAS A CLOSE OUT OF A PRIOR BOND, IF I REMEMBER THAT? OH, YES, YES, YES. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED THAT OVERWEIGHT, UH, PERMIT FUNDING IN ROAD BRIDGE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. RIGHT. IT MAKES SENSE THAT THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD GO. I JUST CORRECT. AND THE STATE KEPT ALL OF IT. RIGHT. AND SO WE, I MEAN IT'S LIKE I SAID, IF I GO BACK TO 2008, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO WHAT WE CAN'T FIND IS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WHOLE SECTION, IF WE WENT BACK TO THE HOUSE BILL THAT CHANGED THIS SECTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, IT'S ALL COMPLETELY UNDERLINED. SO IT WAS SOMETHING BRAND NEW. YES. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHEN IT WAS AFFECTED. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST CONFIRMING THAT THAT REVENUE WE'RE RECEIVING IS IN FACT THAT UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION CODE NOW I'M SURE THE INTENT IS TO, TO RE PARTIALLY REIMBURSE THE COUNTIES FOR DAMAGE DONE BY OVER YEAH. OIL AND GAS OR OTHER OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES. YES. SO AGAIN, AT THIS POINT I'VE ZEROED IT OUT. THE GENERAL FUND I PUT IN ROAD AND BRIDGE, AND THEN WE WILL TRANSFER THE REVENUE COLLECTED THIS YEAR TO THAT. UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT PRIOR YEARS IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, DISCUSS SURE. WE'D TALK ABOUT THAT. SO I, I DID LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TRANSFERS OUT OF GENERAL FUND THAT WE'VE MADE. SO FROM A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, WE'VE TRANSFERRED PROBABLY GOOD MORE THAN YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED THERE. BUT AGAIN, UM, I WILL UPDATE YOU ONCE WE GET THAT CONFIRMATION. SURE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THIS LAST SECTION IS JUST, UM, INTER INTER FUND TRANSFER, IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, FROM FUND 57, UM, FOR THOSE SALARY INCREASE WE DID A TRANSFER INTO THE GENERAL FUND JUST TO MAKE PAYROLL A LITTLE BIT EASIER THERE. SO, UM, ANY CHANGES OF OF, OF THAT, WHETHER IT INCREASES OR, YOU KNOW, IF THAT GOES TO GENERAL FUND, OF COURSE WE WILL MAKE THOSE, THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FROM FUND BALANCE, SO IF WE JUST LOOK AT, UM, JUST INCREASES OVERALL, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S ABOUT 5.8 MILLION INCREASE, UM, IN REVENUE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR, NOT CONSIDERING AGAIN, THAT FUND BALANCE ONCE. UM, AND I THINK THAT IS, THAT'S IT, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT I KNOW WE ALWAYS GO THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX, UM, WHICH THAT IS OUR PRIMARY STREAM OF REVENUE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TO KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE CHANGES OF, OF THE OTHER, UM, OTHER REVENUE AND, AND SOME OF THOSE CHANGES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR B ALSO ANYTHING ON UNDER GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES? YOU PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING YOU NEED. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL [I.C. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) ] MOVE TO ITEM C ON A CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST. KIM, JUDGE, I'M SORRY, HOLD ON. UH, IF YOU MIND, I'M GONNA JUST TAKE A, TAKE A MOMENT. UM, SOMEBODY HAS, HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK, UM, KELTON GUNTER, WHO'S THE PRECINCT CHAIR, UH, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP [00:40:01] AND UH, WE DO ALLOW SPEAKING ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS. SO YOU HAVE THE COURT SIR. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS KELTON GUNTER. I'VE LIVED IN, UH, PRECINCT TWO SINCE 2004. UM, AND I'M A PRECINCT, CURRENTLY THE PRE REPUBLICAN PARTY PRECINCT CHAIR FOR, UH, PRECINCT VOTING PRECINCT 2 0 5, WHICH IS RIGHT OVER THERE. UM, JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY PERCEPTION, I THINK MOST PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF PARKER COUNTY HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY IS THAT WE'RE A LAW AND ORDER COUNTY. UH, WE HAVE REALLY GOOD JUDGES, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD DA. UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA COMMIT CRIMES, YOU WANT TO DO IT IN TARRANT COUNTY OR BETTER, EVEN BETTER YET DALLAS COUNTY. 'CAUSE YOUR, UM, SENTENCES WILL BE LIGHTER, IF AT ALL. AND, UM, I THINK THAT FROM MY PERCEPTION, THE PUBLIC WOULD FULLY SUPPORT A BOND ISSUE THAT SUPPORTED, THAT GUARANTEED OR, UM, MOVE THIS COUNTY IN THAT SAME DIRECTION GOING FORWARD. AND IF WE'RE SPENDING A COUPLE OF MILLION BUCKS TO TRANSPORT PRISONERS OUT OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE CAN'T HOUSE 'EM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD PLACE TO SPEND OUR MONEY. AND I KNOW IT MAY INCREASE TAXES, IT MAY GIVE THE THREAT OF INCREASING TAXES, BUT I THINK IF WE WERE 60 40 PLUS FOR A ROAD AND BRIDGE BOND, WE SHOULD BEAT THAT FOR A LAW AND ORDER BOND. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE Y'ALL THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO THAT. AND THANK Y'ALL. EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM I THINK WORKS FOR THE COUNTY, BUT ME AND, UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR THE WORK Y'ALL DO. I, I THINK PE PEOPLE HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF RESPECT FOR Y'ALL, FOR YOUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, FOR YOUR ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITIES. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL HERE TODAY. I'M GONNA LET Y'ALL HAVE THE REST OF THE BECKY, WE'RE ON ITEM C. YEAH. CAN WE SKIP TO D? OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT. OKAY, WE'RE [I.D. Texas County and District Retirement System (TCDRS). (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] ON ITEM D. OKAY. SO I BROUGHT Y'ALL EACH A BINDER JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN A BUDGET COMMITTEE PREPARING FOR TODAY. BUT I STILL WANTED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF TO EACH MEMBER OF COURT OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. SO THE T-C-D-R-S, UM, I KNOW WE, Y'ALL GET CALLS, I'LL GET CALLS ABOUT RETIRE COLAS FOR RETIREES. SO ALWAYS. SO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE T-C-D-R-S PRESENTATION SHOWS YOU WHAT THAT WOULD COST TO GIVE A COLA RAISE TO RETIREES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 308 RETIREES SERVING BENE RECEIVING BENEFITS. WE HAVE 45 BENEFICIARIES OF RETIREES RECEIVING BENEFITS. OUR EMPLOYEE DEPOSIT RATE IS 7%. WE MATCH IT 200%. OUR ELIGIBILITY IS AGE 60 WITH EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE. UH, VESTED RULE OF 75, THAT'S YOUR AGE PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE, UM, EQUALS 75 THAT MAKES YOU RETIREMENT ELIGIBLE OR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE AT ANY AGE. SO THAT PLAN, OVERVIEW OVERVIEW, THAT'S BEEN THE CASE FOR MANY YEARS. NOT ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'D JUST LIKE TO PROVIDE Y'ALL THAT GENERAL INFORMATION. SO CLEARLY OUR, IF YOU START AT THE TOP, IF YOU DO NO CHANGE TO A RETIREE INCREASE, IT'S A ZERO ESTIMATED COST. OUR FUNDING RATE WOULD BE AT 86.4. SO THE COUNTY FOR YEARS AND YEARS USED TO GIVE RETIREE RAISES EVERY YEAR. SO WHEN YOU FINANCE A RETIREE COLA WITH T-C-D-R-S, BASICALLY THEN YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA PAY IT BACK IN OUR RATE. AND THAT TAKES 15 YEARS TO PAY OFF. THE LAST TIME A RETIREE COLA WAS GIVEN WAS 2009. SO WE JUST DUG OUT OF THOSE 15 YEAR FINANCES OF THOSE RATES. SO WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO BE ON THE DOWNHILL SLIDE OF IT. SO THE PRESENTATIONS THAT I ALWAYS GIVE YOU ARE NOT TO INCREASE THE RATE, BUT IT'S TO SEND A FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEN THAT WAY YOUR RATE IS GONNA STAY MORE CONSISTENT. SO YOU SEE WE ANYWHERE FROM A 1% FLAT RATE OF A LITTLE OVER 750,000 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CPI RATE, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 18 MILLION. SO GAVE Y'ALL SOME OPTIONS IN BETWEEN HISTORICALLY THE COURT, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN, WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF OUR ACTIVES BEFORE WE LOOK AT RETIREE OR AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PRESENTATION. BUT I DID WANNA PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW IT WILL AFFECT OUR FRONT FUNDING RATIO IF ANY OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE. THE NEXT IS THE T-C-D-R-S [00:45:02] CONTRIBUTION RATE. SO WE CURRENTLY PAY 13.39. THAT IS AN ELECTED RATE FROM LAST YEAR COMBINED WITH A 0.23% LIFE RATE FOR A TOTAL CONTRIBUTION OF 13.62. SO FOR 2026, OUR REQUIRE, OUR REQUIRED RATE HAS ACTUALLY DECREASED TO 12.31. I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OR A DIRECT RESULT OF OUR, WE HAVE BEEN OVERFUNDING, THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST FROM THE COURT TO REALLY WORK ON OUR FUNDING RATIO TO GET HIGHER, TO GET CLOSER TO THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OR OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT. 'CAUSE ONCE WE GET THERE, YOU ACTUALLY CAN START USING YOUR OWN MONEY, MONEY TO FUND RETIREE COALS AGAIN. SO INSTEAD OF FINANCING, YOU CAN USE THEM, YOUR, YOU CAN FUND THEM YOURSELF. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR FUNDING RATE WITH T-C-D-R-S IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT FOR BONDS, LOOKS AT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL COUNTY HEALTH, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE COURT, UH, DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO. I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THOUGH 'CAUSE IF WE DID WANT TO LOWER, IF Y'ALL DID CHOOSE TO LOWER THE RATE, THERE IS SOME SAVINGS AND I BROKE THOSE OUT BY GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS EACH OF THE PRECINCT FUNDS. SO A TOTAL, IT WOULD BE ABOUT ALMOST $500,000 IN SAVINGS TO LOWER THE RATE. I GAVE KIND OF SOME KEY KEYNOTES DOWN THERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OBVIOUSLY IF YOU NEED MONEY, THIS IS A WAY TO FIND HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OR IF WE JUST CONTINUED FUNDING AT THE RATE WE ALREADY FUND. IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT FINANCIAL STABILITY FOR YEARS TO COME. UH, ONCE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE'LL KIND OF SEE OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS. UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING CAN CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IF WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE LEAVE THAT MAYBE WASN'T VESTED AND THEY TAKE OUT THEIR MONEY, THE COUNTY MATCH STAYS INTO THAT FUND. SO THAT HELPS OUR LIQUIDITY AND OUR FUNDING RATIO AND THOSE FUNDS. SO I DID, THERE IS SOME OTHER BACKUP INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL. AGAIN, I ALWAYS SAY, SO Y'ALL DON'T THINK I JUST MAKE IT UP. THIS IS ACTUALLY REPORTS FROM T-C-D-R-S AND I JUST SUMMARIZE THEM. UM, STAYING AT OUR CURRENT RATE OF THE 13.3 9.23 LIFE RATE FOR A TOTAL OF 13.62. OUR PROJECTED A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING IS 2037. I THINK JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THAT WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS. SO WE ARE SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN WORK, IF YOU WERE TO LOWER THE RATE, THEN THAT'S GONNA PUSH US BACK A FEW YEARS. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDED COURSE OF ACTION? UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT ELECTED RATE AND LET'S KEEP GOING ON THE TRACK THAT WE'RE GOING ON. BUT AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE IN A NEED THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME MONEY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME SAVINGS. SO THIS, THIS, SO WE'RE IN THE LISTENING MODE HERE. I UNDERSTAND , WE NEED A MOTION. I WOULD LOVE A MOTION TODAY. IT'S NOT NECESSARY TODAY, BUT I WOULD LOVE A MOTION FOR TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT ELECTED RATE. THANK YOU. MOTION MAY BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? JUDGE, I THINK YOU NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON AGAIN FOR THE SCREENS. I'M SORRY. OH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING WITH TCR MOTION IS TO STAY OH, STAY THE SAME. THE CURRENT, YES. CURRENT RATE, CURRENT ELECTED RATE. YEP. YES MA'AM. YES. THE OTHER THING THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT ABOUT THE LAST FEW YEARS IS IN NOVEMBER WE TAKE A LOOK BACK AT PRIOR FISCAL AND SEE WHAT'S LEFT IN THOSE T-C-D-R-S LINES. AND WE'VE BEEN SUBMITTING THOSE AS LUMP SUM PAYMENTS TO T-C-T-C-D-R-S THAT AGAIN, WE ARE SEEING, YOU KNOW, THAT PAY OFF AND THAT IS SOMETHING AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK TO COURT IN NOVEMBER TO ASK. YEAH, AND I THINK OUR, GIVEN OUR FINANCIAL HEALTH RIGHT NOW IS YEAH, PRETTY, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES FOR ONWARD, ONWARD. [Items I.E and I.F] SO THE NEXT ITEM SHOULD BE INSURANCE. UM, I KNOW IN, UH, NOT THIS YESTERDAY'S COURT, BUT THE COURT BEFORE WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CONSULTANTS. SO I'M NOT GONNA DO JUST TOO DEEP, DEEP DIVE ON INSURANCE THIS YEAR 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE Y'ALL GOT ENOUGH OF THAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. BUT, UM, MEDICAL TREND GOES UP, RIGHT? IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE THINGS WE HEAR PEOPLE CARE, YOU KNOW, UM, COMPLAINT ABOUT, UH, THIS YEAR WE DID SEE THE TRANSITION TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AS I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY IT WAS ALL SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS. IT WAS PRETTY BUMPY FOR A FEW MONTHS. UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY SMOOTH OUT MOST OF THOSE WHEN EMPLOYEES WILL COME WITH VERY SPECIFIC, UM, QUESTIONS. PROBLEMS. WHEN I GET THE GENERIC, I HATE THE NEW INSURANCE EMAIL. [00:50:01] MY RESPONSE IS, I NEED YOU TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. AND MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE BUMPS AND BRUISES. UH, I DO SIT ON AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RIGHT UNDER THE PBC BOARD AND WE SPEND ONE DAY A WEEK EVERY THURSDAY, EITHER AT COG OR ON TEAMS MEETINGS, WORKING THROUGH THE ISSUES. YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE COMPLAINTS? IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT? UH, WHAT, WHAT'S SOME SOLUTIONS? SO I DID PUT OUT, GAVE Y'ALL A COPY OF 2026 PLAN, PLAN YOUR PBC RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, BEFORE WE START THIS, GO AHEAD BEFORE YOU GET IN. OKAY. FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO IGNORE WHAT BECKY JUST SAID. BECKY HELPED ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES AT PRECINCT TWO WHO WAS HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME WITH ONE OF THE DOCTORS THAT THEY WERE WORKING WITH, AND BECKY PERSONALLY GOT INVOLVED, RAN IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, GOT IT DONE, DID A FANTASTIC JOB. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE THEM A CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP ON THAT, BECKY. YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, SO HERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WITH OUR NEXT ANNUAL ENROLLMENT. SO WE HAVE, WE WANT TO TRANSITION AND VOLUNTARY VOLUNTEER PRODUCTS TO GROUP PUBLIC OFFERING UNDER PVC. THESE ARE PRODUCTS THAT TYPICALLY WE SEE UNDER AFLAC, COLONIAL ACCIDENTAL CANCER POLICIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE TOOK THE ENTIRE BUYING POWER OF THE PBC AND OUR CONSULTANTS WENT OUT AND DID SOME WORK FOR US. HONESTLY, IT WAS HARD FOR THEM TO PROJECT PARKER COUNTY NUMBERS BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ARE VERY SMALL IN THOSE AFLAC OR COLONIAL PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE ALSO EMPLOYEE OWNED POLICIES. WE JUST SIMPLY DO PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS FOR 'EM. BUT FOR 2026 ENROLLMENT EMPLOYEES WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT A SHORT TERM DISABILITY POLICY, A CANCER POLICY, A HOSPITAL POLICY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN, IT IS, IT IS EMPLOYEE COST. IT IS NO COST TO THE COUNTY TO DO THAT. BUT WE REALLY THINK IF PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THAT VERSUS THEIR CURRENT AFLAC PLAN OR COLONIAL PLAN, THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE A, A BETTER OFFERING. UM, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO DO THAT. UM, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A NEW ONLINE ENROLLMENT PLATFORM. IT IS CALLED SOLEX. THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN WITH OUR NEW CONSULTANTS AND THIS EXECUTIVE TEAM WITH PBC WENT OUT TO SOLVE SOME IT RELATED ISSUES WITH OUR ENROLLMENT FILES AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE SPEND IN ENROLLMENT FILES. SO WE ARE THEIR, THEIR FINGERS CROSSED IT'S GONNA BE READY TO ROLL OUT FOR OUR 2026 ENROLLMENT WHERE EMPLOYEES WILL BE ABLE TO ENROLL THROUGH A LINK AND THEN THAT INFORMATION WILL COME TO US FOR AUDIT. UH, WE ALREADY HAVE PLANS ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET OUT TO THE PRECINCTS TO HELP OUT WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE OR I'VE TALKED TO IT ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN OUR OFFICE SO SOMEBODY CAN COME SEE US AND WE CAN HELP 'EM WALK THROUGH THAT ONLINE ENROLLMENT PROCESS. THIS IS GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF TIME IN OUR OFFICE. IT COMPLETELY TAKES AWAY SOMETHING WE CALL A BRIDGE ONE FILE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY IT IS IN THE PBC BUDGET, BUT ALL OF THESE COSTS HAVE BEEN ABSORBED. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, WE SHOULDN'T SEE ANY INCREASE IN OUR PBC BUDGET AS WELL. ANOTHER THING THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT IS THE GLP ONE MEDICATIONS FOR WEIGHT LOSS. THIS WAS PROBABLY A BIG THING THAT WE GOT THIS YEAR. UM, SO WHAT IN MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY COVERED UNDER OUR PLAN. AND, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THAT WE MISS A LOT OF PEOPLE OR HELPING PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIAL WEIGHT THAT THEY NEED, NEED TO LOSE, BUT THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR A WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY. OR ALSO WHAT'S THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THAT? YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HELP SOMEONE LOSE 50, 60 POUNDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE SAVINGS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, MAYBE THEY GOT OFF THEIR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE MEDS OR MAYBE THAT PREVENTED A HEART ATTACK OR STROKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I AM VERY EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE ARE GONNA OFFER A CLINICAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DOCTOR. UM, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAM, JUST LIKE THE WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY PROGRAM IS THERE IS A PER, THERE IS A COST PER PERSON, BUT IT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE ENROLLED IN THAT PROGRAM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET REQUIREMENTS TO BE IN THE PROGRAM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW PROGRESS IN THE PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THE PROGRAM. UM, GLP ONE MEDICATIONS COULD BE COVERED SPECIFICALLY UNDER THIS PROGRAM. NOT JUST BECAUSE A DOCTOR WROTE YOU THE PRESCRIPTION. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET, FILL, YOU KNOW, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. UM, THE COST SHARE FOR THIS IS ONLY FOR IF YOU'RE ENROLLED IN IT. A LOT OF TIMES WE SEE THIS PER MEMBER PER MONTH FEE ON EVERYTHING. THIS IS ONLY IF YOU'RE ENROLLED INTO THE PROGRAM. THEY ALSO ESTIMATED THAT WE COULD SEE A $5.8 MILLION SAVINGS IN CLAIMS. AND OF COURSE THIS IS PBC AS A WHOLE, BUT FOR HELPING PEOPLE WITH WEIGHT LOSS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY KNEE [00:55:01] REPLACEMENTS MAYBE ARE WE AVOIDING HIP SURGERIES, BACK SURGERIES, OVERALL HEALTH, JUST IMPROVING. SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY GREAT WAY TO OFFER A WEIGHT LOSS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. POSSIBLY A GLP ONE MEDICATION, BUT CONTROLLING IT TO KEEP FRAUD OUT OF THE PROGRAM. TRANSITIONING TO A NAVIGATE WELLNESS PROGRAM, THIS HAS BEEN PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THORN FOR ME NEXT TO GLP ONES. UM, FOR THIS, UM, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELDS WELLNESS PROGRAM IS NOT WHAT WE WANTED IT TO BE. OKAY. I WAS THE BIGGEST CHEERLEADER TO LET IT ALL, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRUST 'EM. AND THEY EVEN LOST ME. I'M LIKE, I HATE IT. EMPLOYEES, IT'S CONFUSING FOR EMPLOYEES. SO WE ARE ROLLING OUT A NEW PROGRAM JANUARY ONE. IT'S CALLED NAVIGATE. IT IS REALLY COOL. WE'VE HAD DEMOS OF IT. IT'S REALLY NICE. THE BEST THING IS, IS WE NEGO OR OUR CONSULTANTS WORKED WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD TO NAVIGATE TO LOWER THE PER MEMBER PER MONTH COST FOR WELLNESS TO WHERE THIS NEW PROGRAM COMES IN UNDER THAT COST. SO WE'RE GONNA SEE AN ADMIN SAVINGS AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY ON, WELL FOR THE PPO PLANS, WE ARE REMOVING THE DIFFERENT TIERS. SO IF YOU'RE A PPO, SOMETIMES IF YOU WENT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE DOCTOR, IF IT WAS RATED HIGH ENOUGH, YOUR COPAY MIGHT BE $25. IF YOU WANT ANOTHER TIME, IT MIGHT BE $35. IT'S VERY CONFUSING FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THESE ARE, UH, PEER REVIEWS FOR DOCTORS TO DECIDE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVEL THEY MEET. SO THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED. SO YOU'RE JUST, IF YOUR PPO YOUR PRIMARY CARE CO-PAY WILL BE THE SAME REGARDLESS. UM, FINALLY HIGH DEDUCTIBLE. THE IRS EVERY YEAR WE SEE THEM RAISE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE DEDUCTIBLES AND PBC BOARD STILL HAS TO MEET TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE GONNA RAISE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE OUT-OF-POCKET MAXES TO MATCH THE DEDUCTIBLE. SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YET. AND THE GREAT NEWS, I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO INSURANCE RATES FOR 2026. AND ID DO NEED A MOTION FOR ACTIVE OR RETIREES MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. MOTION IS FOR NO CHANGES. NO CHANCE I SAY THIS EVERY TIME, BUT BEFORE I GOT ON THE COURT, I REMEMBER THE HISTORY AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SINGLE ITEMS THAT CAME BEFORE THE COURT IS HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE. YEAH. EVERY YEAR. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, LUCKILY WE HAVE BUILT A NICE FUND BALANCE AND THAT INSURANCE ESCROW, AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT SEEING HIGHER CLAIMS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE ARE THE MORE EMPLOYEES THAT COME ONTO THE PLAN EVERY YEAR. WE'RE SEEING A HIGHER SPEND. WE'RE JUST NOT REALLY THERE YET THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE NEED A MORE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT FROM COUNTY OR EMPLOYEE SIDE. OKAY. THAT'S JUST FOUR OF PROCEED. ALL RIGHT, THE [I.G. Longevity Pay. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] NEXT ONE SHOULD BE LONGEVITY. SO I ATTACHED JUST A SUMMARY OF FOR 2025, WE PAID OUT $295,500 FOR LONGEVITY. THE 2026 TOTAL IS 2 97, 2 25 AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. UM, THE 2 95 500 IS ALREADY IN THE JUDGE'S PROPOSED BUDGET. SO ONCE WE PUT THE NEW NUMBERS IN THERE, IT'S SIMPLY GONNA INCREASE IT BY $1,725. I WOULD ASK FOR AN APPROVAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR AND JUST A REMINDER, ALL IN LONGEVITY WENT, THEY HAVE TO BE AN ACTIVE EMPLOYEE WHEN THAT IS PAID. SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE LEAVE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THIS NUMBER COULD GO DOWN. OKAY. PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. I [I.H. Salaries and Benefits for Elected Officials. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] THINK ELECTED OFFICIALS IS NEXT. ITEM H IS WHERE WE'RE AT. OH, OKAY. SO IN THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, THIS IS CURRENT ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE PAID BY THE COUNTY ON THIS SPREADSHEET. OKAY. SO ON THE FAR RIGHT AND INCREASES, THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THE, UM, OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION. SO WE CAN, WE WILL SEE AN INCREASE TO THE COUNTY JUDGE SUPPLEMENT OF $12,800. UM, THE DISTRICT JUDGES EACH RECEIVE AN $18,000 SUPPLEMENT THAT CAN GO TO 25,000 FOR THE INCREASE OF 7,000 EACH. FOR OUR CCL ONE AND CCL TWO, CLEARLY THESE ARE THE BIGGEST INCREASES OF CCL. ONE'S INCREASE WOULD GO TO, UM, WOULD INCREASE BY 38,885 AND CCL TWO WOULD INCREASE BY 41,200. UH, THE OTHER TWO PIECES OF THIS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SUPPLEMENT. AS BRIANNA STATED EARLIER, WE ARE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT SUPPLEMENT. SO THE DISCUSSION OF IF, IF HE'S GONNA KEEP ANY OF THAT SUPPLEMENT. OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM, COURT HAD PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO [01:00:01] A SUPPLEMENT FOR OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY. NOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S BASE SALARY DID GO UP AS WELL AS THE STATE, BUT THE REQUEST WAS TO KEEP THOSE SALARIES EQUAL. SO ONCE WE SEE FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THEN WE ANTICIPATE THE DA SUPPLEMENT TO BE DECREASED. I DID ALSO, UM, PROVIDE YOU THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THESE NUMBERS CAME FROM. SO I, I'D ASK BECKY PROBABLY BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN YEAH. TO, TO GIVE US A, A LIST OF ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT THAT TELLS US WHERE THINGS ARE. 'CAUSE YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU SAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE, THAT PERSON'S ACTUAL SALARY IS. SO WHAT I'D ASK FOR IS BEGINNING WITH THE HIGHEST PAID COUNTY EMPLOYEE SLASH STATE EMPLOYEE, WHAT THEIR SALARIES ARE SO THAT THERE'S A HIERARCHY OF SALARIES IN, IN RELATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUBLISH ALL OF THOSE RIGHT. IN THE PAPER. SO IT, IT, IT POINTS, IT LOOKS AT THINGS AND WILL SAY, MY GOODNESS, BUT THESE SALARIES NEED TO BE IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER BASED ON, UH, WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND WHAT THE, WHETHER YOU'RE ELECTED OR APPOINTED. AND SO, UM, IN TRYING TO EQUALIZE SOME OF THOSE THINGS, I'VE ASKED HER TO PRODUCE A, A LIST SIMILAR TO THIS. YES. EXCEPT WITH THE SALARIES OF EVERYBODY, WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GET PAID, NOT FOR WHAT THE INCREASE IS, WHAT THEY ACTUAL SALARY'S GOING TO BE, SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO JUDGE, UH, THEM AND MAKE A GOOD DECISION BASED ON WHERE THOSE SALARIES ARE IN RELATION TO OTHER COUNTY ELECTED OR APPOINTED. MM-HMM . SALARIES. MY STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE REPORT. THEY SENT ME ONE EXAMPLE ALREADY. SO, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE SALARIES DON'T COME FROM COUNTY. RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. BUT WE WILL HAVE IT READY FOR THURSDAY. YEP. SORRY TO CREATE EXTRA WORK. BUT IT MAKES IT, UH, MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE WHAT, WHAT'S WHAT THERE. THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU ADD UP? YEP. SHOULD BE [I.I. Salaries and Benefits for Precincts. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)] PRECINCTS. OKAY. SO THE ONLY PRECINCT THAT I RECEIVED, UM, ANY SORT OF REQUEST FROM WAS PRECINCT ONE. AND WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT PRECINCTS AND COMMITTEE REALLY. SO, UM, BUT PRECINCT ONE IS ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL OPERATOR POSITIONS. UH, THE BREAKDOWN ON HERE IS OBVIOUSLY FOR ONE POSITION, BUT IF BOTH POSITIONS WERE APPROVED, WE SEE THAT THE TOTAL COST FOR BOTH POSITIONS WOULD BE 1 65. 2 76. DID, DID HE NOT HAVE SOMETHING ON MONDAY'S COURT ALREADY ABOUT THAT? HE WAIVED TWO VACANT POSITIONS. THESE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL, SO THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS ITEM? YES. THANK YOU. HE'S ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND, AND THE MONEY THAT TO PAY FOR THOSE POSITIONS COMES FROM THE PRECINCT ROAD AND BRIDGE EXACTLY. COMES FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS. SO THAT MEANS IF YOU HIRE TWO MORE EMPLOYEES, THEN YOU HAVE LESS MONEY TO SPEND OVER HERE IN MATERIALS OR SOMEBODY LAND. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT THIS IS AN ADDITION OR THAT IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S HOW YOU ALLOCATE THE MONEY WITHIN YOUR ROAD BRIDGE BUDGET. YES. YES. UM, I KNOW HE'S NOT HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE REQUEST WAS MADE. I'M TO APPROVED APPROVE THAT ON HIS BEHALF, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT PULL FROM ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANYONE ELSE AT ALL. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, HOLD SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL FAVOR. CURIOUS FOR, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY. I, AS A BRAND NEW COMMISSIONER, I REMEMBER WE WERE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE, AND THEN WE, WE COME ALONG AND WE VOTE IN, UH, YOU KNOW, A COLA INCREASE FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND THEN AT SOME POINT THERE, I REALIZED THAT THE, THE COLA EMPLOYEE, THE COLA FOR MY EMPLOYEES COMES OUT OF MY BUDGET COMES FROM ROAD BRIDGE. SO YOU CAN FURTHER REDUCE THE MATERIALS LINE AT THAT POINT. IT DOES LEARNED MY LESSON THERE. , COULD I ASK REAL QUICK? SO THE, THE MOTION WAS WHAT WAS TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S REQUEST FOR TWO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WILL SEND A LIST, AN EMAIL LIST OF APPROVALS FOR Y'ALL FOR MINUTES AS WELL. YOU'RE WELCOME. NEXT ITEM. YEAH. GOOD [I.J. Salaries and Benefits for PCSO. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] ITEM J ARIES AND BENEFITS WERE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OKAY. SO WE CHANGE, I CHANGED UP THE PRESENTATIONS THIS YEAR TO TRY TO REFLECT THE RANKINGS OF THE COMMITTEE. AND SO COMMISSIONER HOLT, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, OBVIOUSLY COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS WELL. A LOT OF TIME AND WORK WAS PUT INTO THIS COMMITTEE. UM, THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DID. I KNOW, I, I ENJOYED IT. I WOULD JOKE SOMETIMES I'M THE ONE THAT ENDED UP WITH HOMEWORK, BUT, UM, IT WAS REALLY GOOD. IT WAS REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE. SO I HOPE YOU CAN SEE I'VE TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THE COMMITTEE RANKINGS AND [01:05:01] IF Y'ALL SEE SOMETHING WRONG, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, CORRECT ME. UM, BUT FIRST WE WILL START WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEFORE. OH, DO YOU WANNA SAY YOU GO ANY FURTHER? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO I WANT TO ECHO, ECHO, UH, BECKY'S COMMENTS ON THAT COMMITTEE. WE HAD SHERIFF ER, WE HAD COMMISSIONER WALDEN, MYSELF, UH, TREASURER MCCULLOUGH. HOW'S THAT FOR A FORMAL TITLE? AND, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY JEFF SWAIN, ALONG WITH MR. RICHARD HEISER, WHO IS A VERY ACTIVE, UH, CITIZEN WHO'S VERY WELL INFORMED. AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK A LOOK AT ALL OF THE REQUESTS FOR NEW PERSONNEL, SALARY ADJUSTMENTS, AND NEW CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. AND WE LOOKED AT THEM HOLISTICALLY AND ASKED A TON OF EXTRA QUESTIONS. I SEE JENNY GENTRY GLARING AT ME BACK THERE. 'CAUSE OF HOW MANY QUESTIONS WE ASKED . UH, I'M TEASING. I'M TEASING. NO, BUT WE, WE ASKED A TON OF QUESTIONS TO REALLY TRY TO BE THE BEST POSSIBLE STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR AT THAT TIME. THEN WE EACH VOTED INDIVIDUALLY ON EACH ITEM. AFTER THAT VOTE WAS, UM, TOTALED AND THEN AVERAGED, WE THEN CAME UP WITH A COMMITTEE SCORE THAT WE PASSED ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW WE FELT THAT ITEM MET THE WANTS VERSUS NEEDS SCALE. SO WE USED ONE TO FIVE, FIVE WAS A, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NEED. WE'VE GOTTA DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE PAID FOR. ONE DID NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA. IT WOULDN'T HELP FOLKS. IT WAS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A W ON THAT SCALE EXCEPT TO SAY WE FELT THIS WAS MUCH CLOSER TO A WANT VERSUS A NEED. AGAIN, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT NOT BEING A GOOD IDEA. I'M SURE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ONES AND SAY, YEP, WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT. BUT IT WAS SIMPLY ON THE WANT VERSUS NEED SCALE. SO, AND SO WHAT IT ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IS LOOK AT THE WHOLE ASK FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS ASKED FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ANYWHERE INSTEAD OF TAKING INDIVIDUALLY HERE. AND I'LL USE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR EXAMPLE. SO, OKAY, WELL LET'S APPROVE THIS, PROVE THIS, APPROVE THIS, AND THEN, UH, WE, WE'VE LEFT, WE FORGOT ABOUT SOMETHING OVER HERE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TOO. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, UH, REFLECTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE'RE TRYING TO, AGAIN, COME UP WITH A LIST THAT WE CAN WORK DOWN BEGINNING WITH THE FIVES FUND, ALL THOSE, WE CAN GO TO THE FOURS, GO TO THE THREES, AND IT LIKE THE, THE COMMISSIONER PO SAYS, DOESN'T MEAN A ONE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED. IT MEANS IT IS IN RELATION TO EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH AND, AND, AND TRIED TO, UH, BY USING THIS SCALE, COME UP WITH THE, THE IMPORTANCE WE THOUGHT OF GETTING THAT FUNDED. AND SO AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. WE KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE COULD FUND EVERYTHING THAT'S A FIVE AND THEN THAT'S ALL THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT TO ALLOCATE, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE STOP. RIGHT. AND THEN, AND THEN MOVE IT ON DOWN THE WAY. SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS ON HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM, I, I'M JUST MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE CAN FUND ALL THE FIVES, BUT I'M NOT SURE. WE GOTTA GO THROUGH ALL THE FIVES AND SEE WHAT THEY COST AND THEN WE FIGURE IT OUT. IS THAT FAIR, SHERIFF? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND TO BE FAIR, I DID PUT ALL OF THE REQUESTS IN THIS YEAH, WE DID. I JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE THE FIVE SO THAT ALL OF COURT COULD, COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALL WAS DISCUSSED. SURE. SO FIRST LET'S START WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PAY SCALE. SO THE TOTAL INCREASE IF THE NEW PAY SCALE WAS APPROVED IS 610,619. COMMITTEE RANKING WAS A 1.8. AT ANY TIME, IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET UP AND SPEAK OR, OKAY. UM, THE NEXT REQUEST WAS FOR FOUR SERGEANT POSITIONS SO THAT THEY COULD CHANGE INTO LIKE A NORTH SOUTH DIVISION OF THE COUNTY. UM, THE RANKING, THE LOTS OF DISCUSSION WENT INTO THIS. UH, IT WAS RANKED FOR A FIVE TO GIVE THEM TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS TO, AND THEN THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THEY COULD JUST PROMOTE WITHIN AND TO GET TO THEIR FOUR, BUT NOT RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH. THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO PROJECT. WELL, I THINK, UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROMOTED TO NOT BE PAID AT SERGEANT. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. THEY WOULDN'T BACKFILL THE DEPUTY POSITIONS. RIGHT. THAT WOULD FILTER UP. SO, RIGHT. THAT'S, UH, CHIEF THE, UM, TEN NINE SCHEDULE. YES. WOULD THERE WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE A NINE NINE SHIFT SCHEDULE INSTEAD. SO FOR, FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO WEREN'T IN THE ROOM, UM, CHIEF, DO YOU WANNA BREAK DOWN THE TEN NINE VERSUS NINE? NINE? YEAH, [01:10:01] SO THE, THE CONVERSATION REVOLVED AROUND, UM, OUR REQUEST FOR, FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. UM, THE CONVERSATION TOOK A TURN WHERE, UH, A SUGGESTION WAS MADE TO UPGRADE TO DEPUTY SLOTS TO SERGEANTS AND ADD TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS, WHICH WOULD GIVE ME THE FOUR SERGEANT POSITIONS. BUT I WOULD LOSE TWO ROAD DEPUTIES. UM, THAT WOULD EVEN OUT IF APPROVED. WE WOULD GO TO, BASICALLY WE'D HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND THAT WOULD MAKE ALL THE SHIFTS EQUAL AS FAR AS MANPOWER AND STAFFING IF WE'RE FULLY STAFFED AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU CHIEF. UM, BELOW WOULD BE THE, IS THE CAPITAL REQUESTED ALONG WITH THOSE NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS? SO I'VE PROJECTED THE COST FOR ALL FOUR. IF ALL FOUR POSITIONS WERE GRANTED, UM, THE COST IN CAP, WHAT I DIDN'T PROJECT WAS IF THEY'RE GIVEN TWO AND THEN TWO BASICALLY ROLL UP THROUGH THE PROGRAM, NOT KNOWING WHO THAT IS. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT'S GIVEN, TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GONNA SEE VACANCIES THAT COULD PROBABLY OFFSET WHERE WE CAN MORE BUDGET IT MORE PROPERLY FOR FISCAL 27. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE RANKINGS, THIS WAS NOT A, UH, EVENLY DISTRIBUTED RANKING SYSTEM. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WERE NOT AS MANY. UM, THERE WAS NOT AN EQUAL NUMBER OF ONES. TWOS, THREES, FOURS AND FIVES. UM, THE ONES WERE THE MOST NUMEROUS. THERE WERE SEVERAL FIVES MM-HMM . BECAUSE THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE JUST ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. YEP. UM, SUCH AS REPLACING TAHOES FOR DEPUTIES ON PATROL THAT ARE WORN OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, UM, A 3.5 I THINK WAS DEFINITELY IN THE TOP QUARTER OF SCORES, I BELIEVE. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY STRONG SCORE. JUST, JUST FYI. YEAH. FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S PAYING ATTENTION. YEAH. SO TO GIVE JUST TWO BRAND NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS THAT WAS RANKED AT A FIVE TO GIVE ALL FOUR NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS WAS A 3.5. ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE NOT READY TO ACT ON THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I THINK ON SOME OF THESE WE'D LIKE TO WAIT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THAT'S FINE. AND LET COMMISSIONER CONLEY SURE. PARTICIPATE AS WELL. OKAY. SO THE NEXT IS THE CIVILIAN PAY SCALE SUMMARY. THIS WAS AN INCREASE, UM, ON THE SEVEN GRADE FOR DISPATCH AND ANIMAL CONTROL. THIS WAS A COMMITTEE RANKING OF 1.7. THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL INCREASE WOULD BE 1 68, 1 50 IF APPROVED. THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST FOR TWO ADDITIONAL DISPATCHERS. ONE GIVING ONE NEW DISPATCHER WAS RANKED AT A 4.3, GIVING A SECOND DISPATCHER WAS A 4.2. AND THAT'S IF THEY TAKE CURRENT PART-TIME MONEY AND THAT DEPARTMENT AND PUT TOWARDS THE SECOND FULL-TIME DISPATCHER, THAT WOULD ALMOST PAY FOR HALF OF THE SECOND POSITION. UH, I CAME TO THE COURT NOT TOO LONG AGO ABOUT THE PART-TIME SPOTS. WE'D BE WILLING TO GIVE THOSE SPOTS UP IF WE GOT THOSE TWO POSITIONS. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT STAFFING, WE JUST HIRED TWO NEW DISPATCHERS AND WE'RE FIXING TO HIRE TWO MORE. UM, THE TWO THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HIRE COMING FROM LAKE WORTH PD, UM, THEY'LL NEED MINIMUM TRAINING AND EVERYTHING. SO MY ABILITY TO RECRUIT IS, UH, THERE. SO I FEEL CONFIDENT IF THESE POSITIONS WERE AWARDED, I WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL 'EM. ANOTHER REQUEST WAS TO, UM, RECLASS THE CURRENT DISPATCH SUPERVISOR TO A SERGEANT POSITION. UM, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE SALARY OF 25,433 FOR A TOTAL COST INCREASE OF 30,924. UM, THIS DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A FIVE TO GET THIS DONE. THE NEXT REQUEST WAS FOR A NEW PUBLIC OR A, AN I A NEW ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. THIS COMES DOWN FROM RECENT, UM, LEGISLATION OF HB 33, WHICH IS THE VALDI STRONG ACT. UM, THE REQUEST WAS FOR A NEW POSITION AT THE SERGEANT LEVEL FOR A, UM, TOTAL COST WITH SALARY BENEFITS AND THE CAP FOR THAT POSITION AT ONE 63,985. THIS DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A 3.2. THE NEXT, AND THIS ONE'S KIND OF A LITTLE SPECIAL. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REQUEST FOR TWO NEW ADDITIONAL COURTHOUSE SECURITY OFFICERS. IT MORE HAS TO DO WITH THE SECURITY COMMITTEE THAT THE COUNTY HAS IN PLACE. AND THIS WOULD BE FOR A TWO ADDITIONAL COURTHOUSE SECURITY AT THE [01:15:01] ANNEX FOR CCL ONE. UM, THIS DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE TO GIVE BOTH POSITIONS, BUT IT DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A FIVE TO UTILIZE THE CURRENT COURTHOUSE SECURITY STAFF THERE. AND THEN JUST WHENEVER THERE'S A COURT GOING ON AT CCL, ONE, ONE OFFICER WOULD MOVE DOWN THE HALL TO BE ABLE TO, UM, BE THERE WITH THE METAL DETECTORS. UM, U UTILIZING CURRENT STAFF IS, IS, UH, NOT SOMETHING WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO. IT TAKES TWO TO WORK A, UH, A METAL DETECTOR STATION ON COURT DAYS. UM, AND AS I'VE STATED BEFORE, WE'RE ALWAYS AT MINIMUM STAFFING WITH COURTHOUSE SECURITY OR BELOW. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO UTILIZE OTHER RESOURCES SUCH AS PATROL DEPUTIES, UM, INVESTIGATORS OR UM, TRANSPORT DEPUTIES IF WE WERE FORCED TO DO THAT, WHICH IS, UH, IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. QUESTIONS CHIEF, IS THERE A AND IF THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT, IS THERE A HYBRID OPPORTUNITY WHERE WITH PRIOR NOTICE OF WHEN THOSE COURTS WILL BE IN SESSION, SOMEONE CAN ROLL OVER TO THAT AREA THAT MIGHT BE PULLED AWAY FROM A DIFFERENT SPOT THAT'S NOT PATROL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE CAN VACATE OTHER BUILDINGS. I COULD PULL DEPUTIES OUT OF, UH, THE EAST ANNEX, THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTIES OUT OF THE EAST ANNEX OR UM, UM, ADULT PROBATION PLACES LIKE THAT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMEWHERE THAT HAS MULTIPLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY ALREADY THAT ISN'T AS ACTIVE. IF WHEN COURT IS IN SESSION OVER THERE, WE ROLL ONE DEPUTY FROM THE, FROM THE MAIN STATION THERE IN THE ANNEX AND THEN ROLL AN OUTSIDE COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTY TO THAT LOCATION AS WELL. SO THAT YOU WOULD'VE THREE AT THE ANNEX WITHOUT ADDING ONE TOTAL OR IS THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FROM TIME TO TIME. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WOULD HAPPEN EVERY TIME THOUGH. UM, A LOT OF TIMES THESE COURTS TEND TO HAVE COURT AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME DATES. YES, SIR. UM, SO WHAT WE MAY HAVE, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE DO HAVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, COURT GOING ON AT THE ANNEX COURT GOING ON HERE AND COURT GOING ON AT THE DISTRICT COURT SPOKES ALL THE SAME TIME. DIVISION OF THE FACT THAT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF TRIAL, WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF OUR COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTIES INSIDE THE COURTROOM IF THE SUSPECT IS IN OR THE DEFENDANT'S IN CUSTODY BECAUSE THE BAILIFF HAS OTHER DUTIES TO ATTEND TO. AND SO WE HAVE TO, UM, SLOT A DEPUTY INTO THAT COURT DURING THAT TRIAL TO MAINTAIN CUSTODY OF THE DEFENDANT. I GUESS THE REASON THAT CAME UP, UH, CHIEF WAS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE HERE AND WE HAVE A METAL DETECTOR. YES, SIR. THIS MAIN COURTHOUSE. YEP. UM, THIS, THIS COURTHOUSE IS KIND OF UNIQUE BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S FOCUSED IN THROUGH THAT ONE DOOR, UH, THROUGH THAT ONE DEPUTY. UM, THEY, THE PEOPLE WHO DO COME IN THROUGH COURT FOR ON THE COURT DAYS HERE, THEY HAVE TO WAIT OUTSIDE AND THEY HAVE, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER TO GET THOSE PEOPLE PROCESSING INSIDE. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT SHOW UP ON COURT DAYS TO ASSIST. OKAY. GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT ITEM? YEP, CHRISTINE. OKAY. SHOULD BE FUND 10 OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SALARIES, UH, PRECINCTS. [I.K. Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] OKAY. SO SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES. SO WHAT, WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO YOUR NEXT TAB, WHICH IS FUND 10. SO THE FIRST SHEET THAT I DID, THIS IS A COLA BROKE DOWN BY FUNDS. SO THIS DOES GIVE YOU YOUR PRECINCT NUMBERS AS WELL. UM, I PROJECTED FOR A 1%, A THREE, FOUR AND 5% COLA. JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS. UM, THESE NUMBERS DO INCLUDE ALL FULL-TIME, PART-TIME POSITIONS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. THE ONLY THING THAT IT DOES NOT INCORPORATE IS, AND I DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STEPPING GRADE. THE CURRENT STEPPING GRADE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS IN PLACE HAS A BUILT IN 2% ANNIVERSARY BUMP FOR THEIR PATROL DEPUTIES, COURTHOUSE SECURITY INVESTIGATORS, DIFFERENT POSITIONS UNLESS THEY'RE AT A MAX OUT. SO IT DOES NOT TAKE THEIR 2% BUMP INTO AN ACCOUNT AND I CAN GO BACK AND, AND RUN THOSE ESTIMATES AND BRING THOSE BACK. TYPICALLY I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY 150,000 MAYBE SO. BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE THE CURRENT BUMP INTO ACCOUNT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, I KNOW, [01:20:01] YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT CPI, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS WE GET, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOMORROW OR REALLY FROM NUMBERS GENERATED THREE MONTHS AGO? YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A CPI OR MORE OF A LONGER TERM, LONGER TERM CPI STICKY PRICE, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT INFLATION'S ESTIMATED RIGHT NOW ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE AND A HALF. SO BECKY, I HAD, UH, MADE SOME VERY OR RELATIVELY RECENT ADJUSTMENTS ON MY STRUCTURE THERE AT THE BARN. OKAY. DOES THIS FUND AMOUNT HERE REFLECT THOSE RECENT CHANGES? YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH. WE ALWAYS PROJECT THESE AMOUNTS BY THE BUDGETED AMOUNTS, NOT THE PAID AMOUNT. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT PAY DON'T NECESSARILY PAY IT. COMPLETE BUDGET. [I.L. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen) ] ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT REQUEST FOR NEW EMPLOYEES OR RAISES. SO THE FIRST OFFICE IS GONNA BE 4 0 6, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. UM, SO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST CAME IN AS BASICALLY AN ASSISTANT EOC. I KNOW THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY. ONE THING THAT THE COMMITTEE DID RE DID TALK ABOUT WAS WE DID FEEL LIKE THAT THE SALARY REQUEST WAS LOW. SO I DID INCREASE THE SALARY REQUEST TO 70,000. THAT'S PER COMMITTEE. THAT IS NOT PER MR. LANE. UM, WE DID, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM YESTERDAY. SO WHEN HE, I'M LIKE, WHEN YOU HEAR ME SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT HE'S REQUESTING THAT WE DID FEEL LIKE IF THIS WAS APPROVED IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HARDER FOR HIM TO FILL IT AT THE SALARY THAT HE HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED BASED ON OTHER COUNTY SALARIES. MR. LANE, ANY COMMENT ON THAT? WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I DIDN'T, HE DID, HE DID NOT . WE DID. WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE. UM, WHAT I WOULD DO IS, IS UH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD TRY TO HIRE SOMEBODY ON AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE AND NOT ADVERTISE IT AT A HIGHER RATE. I THINK THAT I CAN NEW GRAD THAT KNOWS AND, YOU KNOW, SQUARE AWAY MUCH CHEAPER THAN HIRING SOMEBODY WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND WORK REALLY HARD. . SO THE COMMITTEE RANKING FOR A FULL-TIME WAS A FOUR. WE DID ALSO, UM, PUT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, COULD IT BE A PART-TIME POSITION. AND COMMISSIONER HOLT MAY HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AS WELL. THAT COMMITTEE RANKING WAS A FIVE. SO IT'S NOT BOTH. IT'S KIND OF, IT'S EITHER OR JUST AS AN ALTERNATIVE. HEY BECKY? YES. I'D LIKE A PRETTY GOOD STACK OF THESE HERE JUDGE. I'M GONNA ASK IF WE TAKE A BREAK HERE AT 10 25 FOR ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. HOW ABOUT THAT? SURE. EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH. AT 10 24 GET BACK ABOUT 10 30. MEETING BACK UP AT 10 42. WE'RE IN SESSION. OKAY. THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS JP TWO. ORIGINALLY THIS REQUEST CAME IN AS A FULL-TIME POSITION, BUT JUDGE GREEN HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER HOLT AND REDUCED IT DOWN TO A PART-TIME POSITION. SO THESE ARE THE NUMBERS ESTIMATED FOR A PART-TIME POSITION. THE COMMITTEE RANKED IT A ONE AS WELL AS THE REQUEST TO MOVE A SUPPLEMENT FOR THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR FROM FUND 57 TO MOVE IT TO FUND 10. THAT ALSO RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING AS A ONE. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR A RAISE FOR THE CHIEF, UH, DEATH INVESTIGATOR. THE AMOUNT OF THE RAISE, UM, TOTAL COST IS 19,471 THAT RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE, A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET FOR INCREASES TO ALL INVESTIGATOR SALARIES, COUNTY PLANNER, THE VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE INCREASES. UM, THE COMMITTEE RANKED THE COUNTY PLANNER AND VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE AT ONE. THEY RANKED THE INVESTIGATORS AT 1.2. I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSING THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT UNIFORMS, BUT, UM, BASICALLY MOST GUNS AND BADGES ALL HAVE A $900 CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE INSTEAD OF THE BASIC $600. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ASK IS. BUT IT'S ALSO ASKING IT FOR THE VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR AND THE COUNTY PLANNER AS WELL. I THINK CELL PHONES WE LEFT ALONE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH WORK AND FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND ALL OF THAT STUFF CAN BE REQUESTED VIA CELL PHONE. OKAY. ACTIVITY. BUT THAT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. [01:25:01] OKAY. UM, THE NEXT AGAIN, IS KIND OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REQUEST. THIS WASN'T A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND COMMITTEE REGARDING PLATTING AND IF THERE NEEDED TO BE A SEPARATE PLATTING OFFICE, IF THERE NEEDED TO BE A PLATING, UM, IF THERE NEEDED TO BE A COUNTY ENGINEER, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT MAYBE OUR PLATTING DEPARTMENT DID NEED TO BE OR PLATTING DIVISION. IT IS A DIVISION UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IF THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL HELP. UH, SO I DID PRESENT JUST A, IF THEY WERE TO ADD A CLERK TO THIS OFFICE, UM, THE COMMITTEE RANKED IT AT A THREE AND THE DISCUSSION WAS DUE TO THE LACK TO THE GRANT LOSS FOR 9 1 1 ADDRESSING POSSIBLY IF THAT COULDN'T BE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT BUDGET MONEY AND MOVE OVER HERE BECAUSE, UM, THE PERMITTING DIRECTOR AND HIS PRESENTATION DISCUSSED ELIMINATING ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS DUE TO THE GRANT FUNDING. AND TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, THAT IS IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER A, UM, REFLECTION THAT THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT PLATTING IS NOT DOING A GOOD JOB. SO THEY NEED HELP IS REFLECTION THAT WE ARE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AND HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE NATION. AND PLATTING IS EFFECTIVELY TWO PEOPLE. YEAH. AND THAT IF YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER COUNTIES ARE SIZE AND ACTIVITY LEVEL BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR GROWTH IS OUTSIDE OF INCORPORATED AREAS, WHICH MEANS IT FALLS ON OUR PLATTING DEPARTMENT, NOT ON A CITY PLATTING GROUP OR REVIEW PLANNING AND ZONING, ET CETERA. SO IT WAS SIMPLY A RECOGNITION THAT WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE DOING A JOB THAT NEARLY ANYWHERE ELSE WOULD HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE. AND SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION. UM, WE DID ALSO DISCUSS IT COULD BE A PART-TIME POSITION AS WELL. AND THEY DID. AND WITH COMMITTEE DID RANK THE PART-TIME AT 3.8. CAN I FOLLOW UP? SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF POTENTIALLY MOVING THE PLANNING TO ITS OWN DEPARTMENT. WAS THAT THOROUGHLY LOOKED INTO? NOT, NOT THIS YEAR AS A STANDALONE ITEM. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE ENGAGING ATTORNEYS TO DO DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS YEAH. GOING FORWARD. YEAH. AND SO THE IDEA WAS IF WE STARTED WITH EITHER ONE FULL-TIME OR ONE PART-TIME POSITION, NOW WE, WE WERE TEEING UP IN OUR HEADS THE IDEA TO LOOK AT THAT FURTHER IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. DIDN'T SEE THAT WE PROBABLY HAD THE RUNWAY AS FAR AS RESOURCES TO DO MORE THAN THAT NOW. NO. YEAH. OKAY. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS NOT A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS CAME THROUGH COMMITTEE. NO. UNDERSTAND. OKAY. BUT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT Y'ALL DID THAT. 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE STRAIN, THE STRAIN AND THE PRESSURES ON THOSE FOLKS RIGHT NOW. AND COMMISSIONER, WE, WE'VE MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE SOME DEPARTMENTS WE'RE GONNA TAKE A DEEP LOOK AT ON A ROTATING BASIS GOING FORWARD THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THERE AS WELL. YEAH. WITH THE FOCUS BEING, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S, IT'S BEING AS HANDLED AS BEST IT CAN RIGHT NOW. YEAH. HOW DO WE POSITION THE COUNTY BEST FOR SUCCESS GOING FORWARD? YEAH. THE, THE GROWTH AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN MY OPINION. YES SIR. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY COULD USE SOME HELP. YEAH. THANK Y'ALL. UM, THE NEXT IS, AND AGAIN, COMMITTEE DID NOT RANK THIS. I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED. UM, THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, THIS IS A REQUEST TO MOVE THE ELECTION CLERK PAY AND ELECTION JUDGE PAY MORE IN LINE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO CURRENTLY IT'S A $10, UM, $10 AN HOUR FOR ELECTION CLERKS, $13 FOR ELECTION JUDGES. THE REQUEST IS TO MOVE THAT TO $11 AND $15. THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET TO DO IT. THE COURT JUST HAS TO APPROVE THE HOURLY RATE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY. OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING I WAS JUST THINKING, DID ELECTION DEPARTMENT NOT DISCUSS THAT IN COURT HERE? I BELIEVE SHE THEY DID. SHE DID. YEAH, SHE DID. BUT I JUST SINCE DID WE APPROVE IT? NO, WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT. BUT THE MONEY IS THERE ALREADY. YEAH. IT'S NOT AN INCREASE TO BUDGET. JUST COURT HAS TO SET THE HOURLY RATES. OKAY. DO WE WANNA KNOCK THAT OUT NOW? SURE. GEORGE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE USE THE FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. MOTION ME BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ONE FAVOR. CARRIE SRO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BUDGETED LINE ITEM ALREADY IS SUFFICIENT FOR THAT. THANK YOU. YES. YES. IT'S NOT AN INCREASE TO BUDGET. ALRIGHT. NOW THE NEXT ONE IS MY DEPARTMENT. AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY IN COMMITTEE. I TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY IN MY WORKSHOP. SO, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE DECIDED TO COMBINE THE COURIER POSITION. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S A MONEY COURIER AND THERE'S A MALE COURIER. SO WE DECIDED TO COMBINE FORCES AND THERE'S GONNA BE ONE COURIER FOR THE COUNTY THAT'LL COVER THAT WILL CARRY MAIL [01:30:01] AND MONEY. SO I'M GOING TO ELIMINATE THE FUNDING FOR THE COURIER IN MY CURRENT BUDGET. IN MY BUDGET. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VACANT FULL-TIME POSITION THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW AND MAKE IT PART-TIME. I TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BASED ON SOME NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE COMING ONLINE. THAT SOFTWARE IS REALLY THE, THE POSITION OF CLERK THAT HANDLES THOSE KIND OF FILES THAT IS REALLY GOING TO MAKE THAT JOB A WHOLE LOT EASIER. I HA I WORK IN THOSE FILES EVERY DAY. IT'S GONNA MAKE MY JOB EASIER. SO IF I'M GONNA SIT ON A COMMITTEE WHERE I ASK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW CAN YOU BE MORE EFFICIENT? I'M GONNA LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND ASK THAT FOR MYSELF. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FULL-TIME POSITION. PART-TIME. I AM KEEPING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN SALARY LINES BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS I AM GONNA HAVE TO GIVE OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN MY OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STAYING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING AND GETTING IT DONE. BUT WITH MY PRESENTATION, IT STILL IS REDUCING MY BUDGET BY ALMOST $102,000. WE DON'T HAVE A SHEET FOR THAT. YEAH, IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE I, BECAUSE YOU NOT GET A COPY OF IT IN THERE. IT SHOULD BEEN RIGHT BEHIND ELECTIONS. I'M SORRY. OKAY. IT'S BEHIND, BEHIND THE MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT SECOND VOTE. COMMISSIONER WALDEN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. CURIOUS FOR WE ARE APPROVING DECREASES TODAY. . OKAY. NEXT IS THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR. SO THE REQUEST WAS FOR TWO FULL-TIME AND A PART-TIME POSITION. THE TOTAL COST OF THE TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS WOULD BE 1 93 8 72. COMMITTEE RANKING WAS A FIVE FOR ONE FULL-TIME POSITION. FOR THE SECOND FULL-TIME POSITION. THE COMMITTEE RANKED IT A 1.4. UM, SHE SPOKE ON THIS IN WORKSHOP. I KNOW SHE'S HERE IF Y'ALL WANNA HEAR FROM HER. AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE SPRINGTOWN AREA TO WHERE THEY CAN DO DEALER SERVICES HERE IN WEATHERFORD DUE TO THERE'S NO MORE SPACE IN SPRINGTOWN FOR IT TO PUT A BODY. SO THIS IS DIRECT REFLECTION OF THAT AS WELL AS SHE ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL PART-TIME PERSON AND COMMITTEE RANKED THAT AT 3.8. JENNY, DO YOU WANNA COME UP OR, OR IS THERE YOU GOOD OR YOU WANT TO COME UP? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND ALL THREE OF THOSE RANKINGS ARE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER? YES. THE REQUEST WAS FOR TWO FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME. SOME OF THESE REQUESTS, THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS SOME OF THESE REQUESTS ARE PAIRED. YEAH, THEY'RE OPTIONS. THOSE ARE ALL INDEPENDENT. YES. THOSE ARE ALL THE ORIGINAL REQUESTS. CORRECT. BUILDING AND GROUNDS. THEY ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL CUSTODIAN, UM, TO WORK FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING WAS THE REASON THAT RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE. THERE WAS ALSO SALARY INCREASES FOR THE DIRECTOR AND OFFICE MANAGER, UM, THAT RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE AS WELL. UM, PARKER COUNTY CONSTABLE THREE REQUESTED A NEW DEPUTY ALONG WITH ALL OF THE CAP THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH A NEW DEPUTY. UM, THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE. THE TOTAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE COST WOULD BE 1 26 4 19, ADDITIONAL CAP 89,670. CONSTABLE FOUR REQUESTED A NEW, A FULL-TIME CLERK. UM, I THINK ORIGINALLY HE TALKED ABOUT HOW HE REALLY WANTED A DEPUTY, BUT A CLERK IS MUCH MORE INEXPENSIVE DUE TO NOT NEEDING ALL THE CAP. UM, THE REQUEST FOR A FULL-TIME CLERK RECEIVED A 1.8. THE COMMITTEE DID TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD WE ASSIST, YOU KNOW, HELP IN HIS NEEDS. AND MAYBE IT WAS SUGGEST IT WAS SUGGESTED TO START WITH A PART-TIME CLERK. UM, I KNOW HE TALKED ABOUT THAT HE'S DONE THAT BEFORE. A LITTLE HISTORY TO THAT. HE WAS GIVEN A PART-TIME POSITION BEFORE, BUT IT KIND OF WAS A SPLIT CLERK AND DEPUTY. SO THIS WOULD BE, HE HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEPUTIES AND JUST A PART-TIME CLERK THAT COULD FOCUS ON CLERK DUTIES. SO THE FULL-TIME POSITION RECEIVED A 1.8, THE PART-TIME POSITION RECEIVED A FIVE, UM, CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST LOVE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT, UH, WE GIVE ALLOWANCES FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS OF $600 FOR CLOTHING. IT IS, UM, WE, THIS WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CLOTHING ALLOWANCE IN COMMITTEE. SO WHAT I DID IS I WROTE A POLICY FOR CLOTHING ALLOWANCES. IT'S A $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. AND ASK WAS FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND COUNTY ATTORNEY'S INVESTIGATORS TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS ALLOWANCE. SO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE WAS EFFECTIVE [01:35:01] FOR FISCAL 26 TO ROLL CLOTHING ALLOWANCE INTO THEIR SALARIES. AND THEN THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE ANYMORE. 'CAUSE BASICALLY I WERE TO CLOTHES, JANE WEARS CLOTHES. I DON'T GET 600 BUCKS TO WEAR CLOTHES. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A, IT'S ALWAYS A THORN. I THINK BRIANNA WOULD, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. SO I DID WRITE A POLICY COMMITTEE, RANKED IT AS A 3.7. UH, THERE YOU GO. SO I, I THINK, UH, PART OF IT IS WE'RE WANTING TO ELIMINATE THIS AS A, AS A, AS A SEPARATE ITEM WROTE IN SALARY NOT HAVING A SEPARATE ITEM. AND I THINK THAT MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLES, UH, BRIANNA THE, UH, THE, UH, INTENT WE'RE WE'RE NOT PAYING SOMEBODY FOR THE CLOTHES THAT THEY WEAR TO WORK. RIGHT. RIGHT. I, I THINK WE SHOULD. AND UM, I LOOKED AT THE POLICY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT WHAT BECKY PUT TOGETHER. AND I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A DEEPER DIVE OVER OVERALL IN THE POLICY BECAUSE, UM, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT'S VERY BROAD. IT GIVES A LOT OF DISCRETION AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING AND THEN AS WELL AS MY OFFICE IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. 'CAUSE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, A DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS DISCRETION AS TO WHAT, HOW, HOW WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRING FOR UNIFORM. AND IF THEY SAY BASICALLY THIS IS YOUR UNIFORM OR IT'S REQUIRED, THEN THE COUNTY'S PAYING FOR IT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY, WELL, I WANT MY OFFICE TO WEAR THE POLOS WITH RIGHT. THE, THE SEAL ON IT AND I'M REQUIRING THAT, WELL, SHOULD WE BUY THAT FOR MY ENTIRE RIGHT DEPARTMENT? AND THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WEAR EVERY DAY. SO IT, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. I KNOW WE KIND OF BROUGHT THIS UP LAST YEAR BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE WANTING TO PURCHASE THOSE POLOS AND SAY, WEAR 'EM ON FRIDAY. WELL, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT. A I I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE POLICY WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN. AND SO, AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR BOTH THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND US, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A, A DEEPER DIVE ON THAT. I THINK IT, YOU, YOU, FOR ME, IT KIND OF RELATES BACK TO REMEMBER OUR DISHWASHER DAYS, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA FUND A DISHWASHER OR NOT MM-HMM . MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTIONABLE EXPENDITURE FOR AN ITEM YEAH. AREA. AND I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT'S JUST RIGHT ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO, TO DO AND BRING BEFORE THE COURT. BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY OTHER ITEMS TOO THAT, UM, WHERE THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE BLACK AND WHITE. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT HELPS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS US WHEN WE'RE YEAH. SO TO SPEAK, POLICING THESE POLICIES E EXACTLY. YOU HAVE TO. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS TO ENFORCE IT, SO ESPECIALLY WE SPEND A LOT TIME ON THIS, THIS ESPECIALLY TRYING IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO, TO HARM ANYBODY, BUT TO JUST ELIMINATE IT MM-HMM . BY, BY ROLLING IT INTO A SALARY AND THAT WAY YOU'RE GETTING PAID FOR IT. AND I, I RELATE BACK TO, UH, BACK TO OUR PRECINCT EMPLOYEES WHO DO WEAR UNIFORMS OR HAVE THE OPTION TO WEAR UNIFORMS, BUT UH, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR 'EM. SO YEAH. AND THIS IS WHAT I WROTE. THIS IS JUST SIMPLY PERTAINING TO THE $600 ALLOWANCE IS GONNA BE ROLLED INTO YOUR SALARY. AND THEN EFFECTIVE OCTOBER, UH, THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, THERE WILL NOT BE A $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE MOVING FORWARD. SOME OF THE THINGS BRIANNA'S TALKING ABOUT ARE BEYOND THIS. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST ALWAYS PROVIDE A LIST OF, THIS IS OUR APPOINTED OFFICIALS. I KNOW SOMETIMES Y'ALL LIKE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEIR SALARIES ARE. I DID HIGHLIGHT, UM, IN YELLOW THE TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT DID ASK FOR AN INCREASE THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER. SO I DID JUST PUT THOSE INCREASES THERE. AND THEN I NOTATED THAT WE DO HAVE A VACANT FIRE MARSHAL POSITION, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT. AND THEN IN THE BLUE, THOSE ARE THE THREE POSITIONS THAT THEIR SALARIES AND BUDGETS ARE APPROVED BY A BOARD. GOOD, GOOD. UH, GOOD PRESENTATION AND GOOD INFORMATION WERE CONTAINED IN HERE. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU. PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND SUMMARIZING SOME OF OUR WORK. BECKY, REALLY APPRECIATE JACK HIS COMMENTS. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THE RANKING ON EACH ONE AS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL, BECKY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IN THE FUTURE, WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT TO ADD ON THE END LIKE A PERCENTAGE COLUMN? I UNDERSTAND IT IS JUST A THOUGHT BECAUSE THAT KIND OF HELPS. I APPRECIATE IT. [01:40:03] OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS AGENDA THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE, UH, WE CLOSE THIS OUT? IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? PROBABLY CAP AND NON CAP BACK HERE THAT I, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. UH, I KNOW. UM, CORRECT. [II.B. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen) ] OKAY. WE'LL GO TO ITEM TWO ON ITEM B ON CAP AND ON CAP. UH, KIM, IF YOU WOULD, THAT'S THE LOOK YOU GAVE ME. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. , WELL YOU YOU THREW THAT. DO YOU WANT TO IN THERE? SO, UM, BRIANNA KIND OF MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION, THE OVERALL, UM, SUMMARY OF CAPTAIN ON CAP REQUEST. AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA GO OVER, UH, AS A WHOLE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH SO FAR AT THIS POINT AND ALL THE, THE REQUESTS. SO FOR TOTAL, FOR CAP, NON CAP EXCLUDING IT IS 2 MILLION 4 27 AND $540 FOR IT. CAP AND NON CAP IS $3,886,457. AND THE NEW EMPLOYEE CAP NON CAP WOULD BE $600,924. AND, UM, THEN WE HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UM, A TOTAL OF 6 69, $500,000. UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A ROLLOVER EXPENSE FROM 2025. AND THIS IS THE HDR FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER JAIL STUDY. AND THAT'S $148,000 THAT WE EXPECT TO ROLLOVER FOR THAT. SO IF WE DIG RIGHT IN, I PROVIDED YOU ALL A SPREADSHEET AND I'VE UPDATED SOME THINGS ON IT THIS MORNING, UM, WITH NEW INFORMATION, BUT, SO I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING ON YOUR SHEETS, BUT IF YOU'LL TAKE THE, THE BIG LARGE 11 BY 17 MULTIPLE PAGES, AND I DID INCLUDE THE COMMITTEE RANKING COLUMN FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CAP CAPITAL ITEMS, UM, SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAD RECOMMENDED. AND IF YOU ALL ARE READY AND WANT ME TO JUST DIVE RIGHT IN STEP BY, UM, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, COUNTY CLERK CIVIL IS REQUESTING, UM, CHAIRS, WELL, CIVIL AND CRIMINAL. THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO CHAIRS FOR EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. THOSE ARE $600 REQUESTS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. AND KIM, JUST, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY LISTENING, THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT LARGER ITEMS, THINGS LIKE CHAIRS, WE DID NOT, RIGHT? Y'ALL DID NOT DISCUSS, WE DID NOT LOOK AT, WE WANTED TO BE AS EFFICIENT WITH OUR TIME AS POSSIBLE. SO WHAT I THINK WE, DID WE VOTE ON ANYTHING UNDER 10,000? I BELIEVE SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT. OKAY. I, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WERE LESS THAT Y'ALL KIND OF TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, FOR CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, BUT GOTCHA. SO DEPARTMENT 4 0 6, THEY, THEY'VE REQUESTED A 2025 CHEVROLET 1,504 WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP. UM, THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME SWAPPING GOING ON WITH A 2020, IS IT A 22, A 21 TAHOE? UM, THAT THERE'S A TWO OF THE PRIESTS, UM, CONSTABLES ARE INTERESTED IN THAT TAHOE, AND THAT WOULD BE A TRADE OR A SWAP. THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED THEY'D GIVE UP IF THEY COULD GET THE TAHOE. AND SO IT, IT WOULD BE A $52,000 PICKUP FOR, UM, EOC, UM, IF APPROVED. AND THE COMMITTEE GAVE THAT A FIVE RANKING. AND THEN I'VE ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT VEHICLE PROVIDE A JUSTIFICATION OF WHY THEY, THEY, WHY THEY THINK THAT THEIR DEPARTMENT NEEDS IT AND EVERYTHING. AND ONCE I GET THOSE, I WILL PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU. SO WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, UM, WHEN THERE IS, UH, A VEHICLE SPECIFICALLY OR OTHER ITEMS AS WELL, BUT SPECIFICALLY VEHICLES THAT ARE, UH, ACTUALLY NOT NEEDED IN A DEPARTMENT AND THEY WANT A SURPLUS OR WHATEVER. AND, UH, TO, TO PUT THAT OUT FOR ANYBODY THAT MIGHT NEED IT AND THEN BRING BACK A JUSTIFICATION OF WHY WE NEED THIS AND THEN BRING IT TO COURT. YES, SIR. FOR APPROVAL THAT WAY. SO JUST, JUST KIND OF FORMALIZE THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN, THAN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. EOC HAS ALSO REQUESTED A NEW A PX 8,500 RADIO FOR 83 58 AND THEN THE VEHICLE ON OUTFITTING AND STRIPING, IF THEY WERE TO GET THAT, THAT CHEVROLET HALF TON WOULD BE $7,793. CCL TWO IS REQUESTING AN A METAL DETECTOR WAND FOR TWO 50 A BULLETIN BOARD. UM, I, I ASKED ON THIS, [01:45:01] THEY HAVE A, AN BUDGETED AMOUNT, A REQUEST OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS. I INQUIRED IF THIS WAS A DIGITAL BULLETIN BOARD AND I WAS TOLD IT'S NOT, BUT, SO I'M STILL A LITTLE, UM, NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THE, THE AMOUNT THAT THEY REQUESTED ON THAT, AND I'LL CONFIRM FURTHER ON THAT. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED, UM, SOME AV SYSTEM FIRMWARE AND SOFTWARE UPDATES, UM, FOR THE, THE COURTROOM AB SYSTEM FOR $12,000 AND THEN ADDITIONAL, UM, COMPONENTS FOR $6,000. AND THE COMMITTEE RANKED THOSE TWO ITEMS AS A 3.8. BOTH THE DISTRICT CLERK HAS REQUESTED OFFICE FURNITURE NON CAP OF $500. THEY HAVE A DESK THAT IS, UM, THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN LIMP IT ALONG ANYMORE THIS YEAR. UM, AND SHE THINKS THAT SHE CAN FIND SOMETHING REASONABLE FOR $500 FOR THE DESK. JP THREE IS REQUESTING TWO DESKS AT A TOTAL OF $4,000. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING A 2026 CHEVROLET SILVERADO HALF TON. IT WOULD BE $45,055, AND THE COMMITTEE RANKED THAT AS A 3.6 AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE WOULD BE $2,000. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED, UM, PARTITIONS FOR ART PROJECTS. THEY, THEY'VE BEEN USING PARTITIONS THAT HAVE, UM, HAD ISSUES NO LEGS OR PARTS AND PIECES DISAPPEAR, MOVING THEM IN AND OUT. AND SO THEY'RE GONE AHEAD AND PUT IN A REQUEST TO REPLACE THOSE AND IT'D BE FOR TWO SETS OF PARTITIONS FOR $4,370. THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TWO SCANNERS AT $1,935 AND A HAND CART AND OFFICE CHAIRS, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 5 7 5 ON THOSE. THE BUILDING AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTED TWO CHEVROLET TRACKS FOR THEIR CUSTODIAL, UM, EMPLOYEES. ONE OF THEM, THE COMMITTEE RANKED A 4.6 FOR ONE AND FOR THE SECOND ONE OF 3.2. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED A SMALL TOOLS LINE OF 8,000 GROUNDS EQUIPMENT OF 8,000. UM, AND THEN SOME LARGER EXPENSES HERE. THEY ARE NEEDING AN EXPANSION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL SYSTEM, WHICH IT CONTROLS THE TEMPERATURES IN ALL THE BUILDINGS AND THAT WOULD BE $250,000. AND THEN THEY, UM, ROUTINELY REQUEST HVAC EQUIPMENT FOR REPLACEMENT UNITS IN THE BUILDING OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGET EACH YEAR FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER. UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A GRABBER PIECE TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR CURRENT, UM, IS IT A BACKHOE THAT THEY HAVE FOR $5,000 JUST FOR THAT IMPLEMENT PIECE? THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS, UM, REQUESTED EIGHT BODY CAMERA, UM, AXON, IT WOULD BE A LEASE. 13,182. 10 A 20. NO THI THIS REQUEST WAS DONE. BRIANNA, DO YOU KNOW WHO SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST? DID YOU DO THIS REQUEST, JASON? NO, NO, I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW IF THE JUDGE'S OFFICE OR THE PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS DID THAT RANDY DID. OKAY, I'LL, I'LL JUST PRESENT IT TO YOU. OBVIOUSLY THAT'LL CHANGE. RIGHT? SO THEY'VE REQUESTED A SMALL, UM, CHEVROLET PICKUP FOR 39,220. AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT WOULD BE $13,500. UM, RADIO AND INSTALLATION FOR THE VEHICLE, $8,358. BODY ARMOR. UM, FIVE SETS OF THAT FOR 7,973. PORTABLE LIGHT SCENE LIGHTS FOR ON SCENE WOULD BE $1,914. FIRE HELMETS WITH FRONTS FOUR OF THOSE $2,136 FIRE BOOTS. FOUR SETS OF THOSE $2,104 12 GAUGE SHOTGUNS. THREE OF THOSE FOR $687 ACCELERANT AND HYDROCARBON DETECTORS. TWO OF THOSE FOR $3,656. I'D HELP IF I PUT MY GLASSES ON. UM, TACTICAL HELMETS, SIX OF THOSE FOR A HUNDRED, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, $1,038. AND DUAL CERTIFICATION FIELD UNIFORMS, FOUR SETS OF THOSE FOR $6,524. CONSTABLE ONE IS REQUESTING FIVE PORTABLE IN-CAR RADIOS. THOSE ARE $8,358 A PIECE FOR A TOTAL OF 41 7 90. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED, UH, A LEASE FOR BODY CAMERAS, A TOTAL OF FIVE OF THOSE FOR $7,706. AND THOSE WERE RANKED BY THE COMMITTEE, UM, A 4.2. IF TWO, WE GET TWO AND THEIR WORN IS NEEDED FOR THE CAMERAS OR IF THEY GET [01:50:01] THREE, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE WARNED AT ALL TIMES. AND THAT WAS RANKED AS 1.8. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED A DRONE, UH, FOR $7,689 THAT WAS RANKED AS A ONE. AND THEY'VE REQUESTED, UH, THESE, THIS IS A LEASE FOR FIVE TASERS AT $4,809 AND 60 CENTS FOR, AND THAT WAS RANKED AS A 4.4 CONSTABLE TWO. SO THEY REQUESTED A VEHICLE FOR $60,000. BUT HOWEVER, THIS, THIS FALLS INTO THAT REQUEST OF, IF THEY GET THE, THE FIRE MARSHAL TAHOE, THEN THEY WOULD ELIMINATE THIS REQUEST FOR THIS, THIS VEHICLE. AND THEN THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE WOULD BE $20,000. THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED AN INDOOR, I'M SORRY, AN OUTDOOR DRONE FOR 13,872. THAT WAS RANKED AS A ONE. AND THEN THEY REQUESTED AS INDOOR DRONE FOR $6,444. AND THAT WAS NOT RANKED BY THE COMMITTEE. SO THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART. THEN LET'S ADD THAT INDOOR DRONE. OKAY. TO THE OTHER ITEMS FOR THE DRONE. ALL I, I THINK THE COMMITTEE'S INTENTION WAS THAT ALL DRONE PURCHASES JUST AT RIGHT NOW. GIVE US A SECOND. OKAY. SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT DRONE COMMITTEE. WE CAN BUDGET FUNDS TO IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE, WE'D ASK THAT THAT BE HELD OFF UNTIL LATER. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE DRONE COMMITTEE IS ACTIVELY COMMEND. I THINK WE HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING TOMORROW OR THURSDAY, OR IT'S SOME DAY THIS WEEK. JASON, DO YOU RECALL? THURSDAY. OKAY. JASON'S LEADING THAT BY THE WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNEW THAT UNTIL I JUST SAID IT JUST NOW, BUT , OKAY, MOVING ON WITH CONSTABLE TWO. UM, THEY'VE REQUESTED A BALLISTIC SHIELD FOR $2,000. THREE BULLETPROOF VEST REPLACEMENTS FOR 6,000. OH, I'M SORRY. NOW WE'RE ON CONSTABLE. THREE THREE BULLETPROOF VEST REPLACEMENTS FOR $6,000. TWO MOTOROLA REPLACEMENT RADIOS FOR $17,000. UH, HALF TON CHEVROLET FOUR WHEEL DRIVE THERE WOULD BE REPLACING A 2018, UM, PICKUP. THAT'S NOT POLICE PACKAGE. THIS WOULD BE 52,295. THAT'S RANKED AS A 1.2. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL VEHICLE ON WHO GETS THAT. OKAY, SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BUT BEFORE I FORGET, SO I'LL NEED BULLETPROOF VEST. THOSE, THAT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION IS IT? IF THEY'RE EXPIRED? YEAH. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A COMMITTEE RANKING, SO I ASSUME IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COMMITTEE, BUT I MEAN THAT'S LIKE NON-NEGOTIABLE. I DON'T THINK, UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING. IT DEPENDS. IF IT'S REPLACING SOME THAT ARE OUT OF DATE, THAT WOULD BE A YES. BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE EITHER WANTING EXTRAS OR BETTER DIFFERENT ONES FROM THE ONES THAT THEY HAVE. SO THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION TO THE I SEE. WE DIDN'T, WE WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T WHY WE NEED THEM. AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED, THERE IS NO WAY WE CAME OUT OF THE GATE WHEN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND HAD IT COMPLETELY RIGHT FROM THE GET GO. YES, THIS, THIS SHOULD EVOLVE YEAR OVER YEAR. SO THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT EVERYBODY WANTS US TO DO THIS DIFFERENTLY NEXT YEAR, PLEASE LET US KNOW. SAME THING HERE WITH THE, THE MOTOROLA, MOTOROLA RADIO REPLACEMENTS. MM-HMM. I DON'T, THAT DIDN'T COME BEFORE US, SO WE DON'T KNOW. WELL, THEY'RE ON THE, ON ALL THE SHEETS THAT THEY SUBMITTED. I UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK. WHY DO WE NEED REPLACEMENT RADIOS WHEN WE BOUGHT 'EM TWO YEARS AGO? RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE INFORMATION. WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE'LL ASK AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. UM, SO THE VEHICLE OUTFITTING FOR PRECINCT THREE, IF THEY WERE TO GET THAT HALF TON VEHICLE WOULD BE 29,275. THAT WAS RANKED AS A 1.2 ON THOSE TWO. THE VEHICLE AND THE FITTING, THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED THREE VESTS AT $1,500. I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF VESTS. OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'VE GOT $2,000 VEST AND THEY'VE GOT A $500 VEST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CARRIERS OR WITHOUT THE PLATE OR QUESTION OR WHATEVER THE, WE'VE ASK THEM AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I GUESS. OKAY. SO SHERIFF'S OFFICE DISPATCH, UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FIVE OF THE 24 7 CHAIRS. AND THEN THEY NEED, UM, 20 NEW KEYBOARDS AND THAT'S $1,400. NEW HIRE UNIFORMS FOR ADMIN, SHERIFF'S ADMIN. THERE'S, THEY ALWAYS BUY ABOUT 15 OF THOSE AND THAT'S 5,250. AND THEN FOR SPECIAL CRIMES, THEY'VE REQUESTED A FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM. [01:55:01] THIS GOES ON THE INTERSTATE AND IT, UM, ACCORDING TO CHIEF DEPUTY AND JEFF SWANE AND STUFF, IT'S VERY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE THESE, UM, TO CATCH A LOT OF, OF CULPRITS AND STOP A LOT OF THINGS. THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. AND THIS WOULD BE WITH GRANT'S FUNDS, EIGHT 80% MATCH. OKAY. AND THE COMMITTEE RANKED THAT AS A FIVE. THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING A DIGITAL SLR CAMERA FOR SEVEN 60. THE CELL BROUGHT PC FOR $5,000. UM, AND THAT'S ALL FOR SPECIAL CRIMES. CID IS REQUESTING TWO NEW HALF TON CREW CAB, TWO TWO WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS FOR $108,000. THAT WAS RANKED AS A FIVE. THEY'RE ALSO NEEDING A CSE LADDER, HAND CART OFFICE CHAIRS ABOUT SIX OF THOSE. A CSE. OH, YOU HAVE THE LADDER ON THERE TWICE. OKAY. C-S-C-D-N-A SWAB AND A DRYER FOR $2,410. UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING REMOVAL AND REINSTALLATION OF HANDHELD DOCKING STATIONS AND CID VEHICLES. TWO OF THOSE, THAT WOULD BE $1,600. MOVING ON TO PATROL, PATROL IS REQUESTING 13 TAHOES. 12 OF THOSE WOULD BE FOR PATROL AND ONE WOULD BE FOR INTERDICTION. THOSE ARE AT 57,007 50 A PIECE, WHICH COMES TO SEVEN 50. SEVEN 50. BUT 5,500,000 OF THAT WOULD COME FROM THE SB 22 GRANT. SO IT'D BRING IT TO 250,750. THE COMMITTEE RANKED THAT AS A FIVE. THE OUTFITTING FOR THOSE 13 VEHICLES WOULD BE $388,000, ALSO RANKED AS A FIVE. THEY'RE ALSO NEEDING 10 RAFFLE RATED SHIELDS. 74,840 FOR THOSE. THAT'S ALSO A FIVE. THEY'RE NEEDING ENTRY VEST. UM, THEY HAVE A BUDGET REQUEST OF $5,800 FOR THE ENTRY VEST. HOW MANY IS THAT? JUST ONE SWAT VEST. OKAY. AND TWO HANDHELD RADAR UNITS FOR $4,700. 20 GAS MASKS FOR 87. 60 20 KEVLAR HELMETS FOR 17,040. UH, SHIELD CARRY BAG, 10 OF THOSE FOR $970. STOP STICKS. 20 OF THOSE FOR 10,420. NOT VISION GOGGLES FOR SWAT. ONE PAIR FOR 4,800. A SWAT ENTRY HELMET FOR 3,600 SWAT GAS MASKS, UM, FOR $1,920. A SWAT TARGET POINTER FOR 1310 BULLET RESISTANT VESTS WITH CARRIERS AND RIFLE PLATES. 40 OF THOSE FOR A TOTAL OF 66,000 400, 4 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS. 58 44, UH, TRIB BAND RADIO ANTENNAS. 20 OF THOSE FOR 44. $106. A VEHICLE LOCK BOX FOR SWAT. EIGHT OF THOSE FOR 16,000 COMMAND BOARDS. FIVE OF THOSE FOR $4,040 AIR GAIN ANTENNAS, 20 OF THOSE FOR $4,900. SEVEN DOCKING STATIONS FOR $6,531 REMOVAL. AND REINSTALLATION LPR SYSTEM INTO NEW VEHICLE IS $2,250. AND THAT'S ALL FOR PATROL. ANIMAL CONTROL HAS REQUESTED A THREE QUARTER TON GAS, TWO WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE FOR $55,000. AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE A RANKING ON THAT. DID YOU HAVE A RANKING ON THAT? NOT IN THE FRONT OF ME. I NEED TO CHECK MY NOTES ON THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE WOULD BE 2100 $5,500. $21,500. THEY'RE REQUESTING FOUR NEW DOG BOXES FOR $24,000 AND DOG TRAPS. TWO OF THOSE FOR $950. THEY'RE ALSO NEEDING MIS MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL INCLUDING ROPES, TONGS, BUCKETS, HALTERS, ET CETERA. AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $2,000. AND THEN LEASHES A BOX OF 500 WOULD BE $610 I THINK. I THINK THE ANIMAL CONTROL ONE WE HAD ORIGINALLY, BUT WE TOOK IT OFF. WHICH IS WHY IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE RANKING TO YOU. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT MARK DELETED THAT. DID YOU, DIDN'T THAT PERTAIN TO THE POSITION THAT YOU ASKED NOT TO BE INCLUDED? NO, WE HAD ONE REPLACEMENT FOR OUR CURRENT FLEET. AND THEN THAT'S MY MISTAKE THEN. YEAH. ONE FOR THE, UH, NEW, THE NEW STAFF. SO POSITION, KIM, THAT'S MY MISTAKE. I HAD IT, UH, I DELETED IT PRIOR TO OUR LAST SESSION WHERE WE RANKED EVERYTHING. OKAY. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DELETED REQUEST. OKAY. IT'S INCLUDED IN MINE. [02:00:03] AND MOVING ON ALSO FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. DOG AND CAT FOOD FOR THE TRAPS. A THOUSAND DOLLARS TRANSFER CAGES, FIVE OF THOSE WOULD BE $400 A CAT TRUCK. FOUR OF THOSE IS $120 TYVEK SUITS. A BOX OF 50 IS $400. AND THEN THE SHOE COVERS A BOX OF A HUNDRED OF THOSE IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS. AND THAT'S ALL FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. COURTHOUSE SECURITY REQUESTING FIVE NEW CHAIRS AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS. TWO HANDHELD METAL DETECTORS WOULD BE $220. AND AN A DA WALKTHROUGH METAL DETECTOR FOR THE ANNEX AT $4,210. THAT WAS RANKED A FIVE. MOVING ON TO FUGITIVE TRANSPORT, THREE CHEVROLET TAHOES AT 57,750. A PIECE WOULD BE 173,250. THAT'S RANKED AS A FIVE. AND THEN THE OUTFITTING OF 25 5 TO GO WITH THAT WOULD BE A FIVE. THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING ANKLE SHOCK RESTRAINTS FOR $3,490. AND THEN HAND HANDHELD DOCKING STATIONS FOR THE VEHICLE. $9,040. OKAY. MOVING ON TO IT. IT IS REQUESTING AN EOC RADIO CORE UPS RE REPLACEMENT. AND THE TOTAL FOR THAT IS $41,634. AND THEN TWO 400 FOOT RADIO TOWERS FOR THE CENTRAL SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. THOSE TWO TOWERS WOULD COME TO $3,843,823. AND THEN SMALL TOOLS FOR IT. UH, BUDGET OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THAT. OH, SORRY. THE, THE COMMITTEE RANKED THE TOWERS AS A FIVE. PERMITTING IS A REQUESTED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE AT 61,380. THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING A LATERAL FILE CABINET FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS. AG EXTENSION IS REQUESTING, UH, THEY NEED TWO NEW COST SHARE COMPUTERS, UM, THAT THEY A AND M PAYS FOR A PART OF IT, AND THEN THE COUNTY PAYS FOR A PART. AND THOSE TWO WOULD BE $2,782 FOR OUR PORTION. AND THEN THE LAPTOPS ALSO THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, WOULD BE $611. THAT'S A COST SHARE AS WELL. I WOULD THOSE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT. DO THEY GO THROUGH IT? I, I REALIZE THAT THEY'RE COST SHARED. BUT WOULDN'T THOSE BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH IT? I I'M NOT IT'S COMPUTER. COMPUTER. IT WOULD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE GET TO DETERMINE, DO WE GET TO DETERMINE THE, FOR AG EXTENSIONS COST SHARE COMPUTERS? I THINK THEY, THEY BUY 'EM AND THEY JUST CHARGE US FOR WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. YEAH. DON'T THOSE NEED TO BE APPROVED BY IT BEFORE? UH, I THINK, I THINK WE SAID THAT ANY COMPUTER THAT WE'VE PURCHASED NEEDS CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK YEAH. WOULD BE YEAH, SURE ABOUT IT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. JUST A LITTLE QUESTION MARK THERE FOR ME. OKAY. AG EXTENSION IS ALSO REQUESTING A 2026 FORD EXPLORER FOR $43,010. AND THE COMMITTEE RANKED THAT A ONE. UM, THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING SOME FORM OF A, A STORAGE UNIT OUTSIDE. AND A 20 FOOT CONEX, UM, UNIT WOULD BE $3,500. AND THAT IS ALL FOR CAP ON CAP FUND 10. AND THEN WE MOVE TO NEW EMPLOYEE CAPTAIN ONCAP. SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THE, UH, EMPLOYEES WERE NEW EMPLOYEES WERE, UH, WERE ACTUALLY HIRED, YES. AND SO THOSE ARE PRETTY WELL SELF-EXPLANATORY LOOKS TO ME LIKE YES. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH 'EM? NOPE. I, I'M, I'M, I'M, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT'S THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IF, IF WE APPROVE THAT POSITION, THEN WE WILL HAVE THE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST RIGHT HERE. I WHAT THERE IS A, UM, THE CAPTAIN CAP FOR THE PIO OFFICER FOR, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THE LIST. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THAT'S A TOTAL OF $15,860 WORTH OF CAMERA, BODY CAM, VEHICLE CAMS, VESTS, JACKETS, AND HANDHELD RADIOS. OKAY. NO, THERE'S NO ASSOCIATED . OKAY. [02:05:01] SO TAKE THAT OFF. YEAH. DISREGARD. JUST THE BEST. THE REST, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL. GOTCHA. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING WE WANT TO COME BACK TO DISCUSS? ANY OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA. SO WOULD THEY MOVE TO AN ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT THEN? MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. RECORDS SHOW THAT WILL ADJOURN 1124. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.