* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] UH, GOOD MORNING. I WANNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, OPEN THE MEETING FOR THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPECIAL AGENDA ON MONDAY, AUGUST 18TH, 2025. LET THE RECORD SHORT AS 10 0 1 AND, UH, WE WILL MOVE TO THE, UH, [II. EXECUTIVE SESSION:] AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH ACCORDANCE WITH 5 5 1 0 7 2 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE RESERVE, AND THE RIGHT TO MEET AND CLOSE SESSION AS NEEDED TO DISCUSS ITEM A UPDATE, DISCUSS PARKER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND JAIL, AND TAKE ANY ACTION THE COURT DEEMS NECESSARY. THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE WILL MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10 0 1. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10 23. [I.A. Consider and take action on an order calling a bond election in the County on November 4, 2025.] UH, I'M GOING MOVE TO ITEM A ONE A, UH, FIRST, UH, MR. WILLIFORD, IF YOU WOULD, COME ON, COME ON UP. YES, SIR. JUDGE, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD. GEORGE WILLIFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES AND, UH, WHILE YOU WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, CHRIS SETTLE WITH MCCALL PARK, HURSTON HORTON BOND COUNSEL TO THE COUNTY, UH, IS HERE AS WELL TO HELP, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND SO ON. AND, UH, BASED ON SOME REVISED NUMBERS THE OTHER DAY, I, UH, PUT NEW PACKETS, UH, AT EACH OF YOUR PLACES. UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THOSE, UH, IS, ARE THOSE KIND OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? OKAY. UH, WE GOT REVISED COST ESTIMATES DELIVERED, UH, LATE LAST WEEK AND, AND WE'RE ABLE TO REMODEL THOSE AND ALL. AND ACTUALLY, WHAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU, THERE'S SLIGHT VARIATION. 'CAUSE FRIDAY THE, UH, DESIGN FIRM, UH, ADJUSTED THE JAIL AND THE JUSTICE CENTER COST JUST VERY SLIGHTLY. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE, UH, DEBT SERVICE TO ANY EXTENT OR THE TAX IMPACT. BUT, UH, WHAT WE PREPARED, UH, WAS MODELING BASED ON, UH, 104, UH, MILLION. AND, AND IN THIS CASE, THE NEW COST ARE 104.755 MILLION, UH, FOR THE JAIL PROJECT AND 180 1 6 0 5 FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER. SO THE TOTAL WOULD BE 286,360,000. AND AS YOU SEE, BASED ON THAT, UH, AND BASED ON THE ASSUMED INTEREST RATES, UH, TAXABLE VALUE NOW AND GOING FORWARD, THE UH, UH, PROJECTED TAX IMPACT IS JUST UNDER 5 CENTS. A TOTAL OF THAT WOULD BE AROUND 4.99 CENTS. AND, UH, THE SPLIT OR PRORATION OF THAT WOULD BE SUCH THAT IT'D BE ABOUT 1.81 PENNIES FOR THE JAIL PROJECT AND 3.18, UH, FOR THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER TO TOTAL THAT 4.99 CENT OVERALL, UH, TAX IMPACT. AND SO, UH, FOR, UH, TAXPAYERS ON A PROPERTY THAT HAD A TAXABLE VALUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE ANNUAL IMPACT WOULD BE, UH, 49 POINT, UH, DOLLARS AND 90 CENTS, OR $4 AND 16 CENTS A MONTH IN THAT CASE. AND AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, UH, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WITH THE, UH, FREEZE THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE FOR TAXPAYERS THAT ARE OVER 65 ON THEIR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADS, UH, UH, WHEN THE, UH, FREEZE IS IN PLACE, THAT MEANS THAT THEIR TAXES WILL NOT GO UP, UH, TIED TO, UH, BOND ISSUE AND SO ON. BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, CHRIS CAN HELP ADVISE. WE'D ALREADY PROVIDED, UH, LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR A MOTION, UH, IF AND WHEN, UH, DESIRED. BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. MR. WILLIFORD, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND I'M ABOUT TO GET INTO THE HYPOTHETICALS, WHICH, UM, YOU PROBABLY WON'T WANT TO ANSWER SPECIFICALLY THIS, THIS QUESTION'S ACTUALLY MORE ON HISTORICAL BONDS THAT YOU'VE OVERSEEN WITH PARKER COUNTY. AS JUDGE DEAN MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF BONDS PASS AND NONE OF THEM ACTUALLY AFFECTED OUR TAX RATE UNTIL APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR AGO. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO CLARIFY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GIVEN THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE HAD THAT CAUSED THE RATE PER CITIZEN EFFECTIVELY TO BE MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY PROJECTED. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE NUMBERS ARE PROJECTED AT CURRENT POPULATION RATES, IF WE WERE TO GROW MORE, THE IMPACT PER CITIZEN WOULD GO DOWN. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND, AND THE REQUIRED TAX RATE AS WELL. UH, WE'VE TRIED TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN A TAXABLE VALUE, UH, AND HAD A TABLE. UH, BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE DETAILED MODEL, WE'RE PROJECTING, UH, [00:05:01] GROWTH IN TAXABLE VALUE OF ABOUT 5% A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS, THEN DROPPING IT DOWN TO FOUR AND SO ON LIKE THAT. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, UH, GOING BACK FIVE YEARS, THE LOWEST RATE OF ANNUAL GROWTH HAS BEEN NEARLY 8%, AND THE AVERAGE HAS BEEN DOUBLE DIGITS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AROUND 11.6% PER YEAR. SO IF THAT TREND CONTINUES, IT'S GONNA INFLATE THE TAXABLE VALUE AND PUSH DOWN THE REQUIRED TAX RATE, UH, VERSUS WHAT YOU SEE HERE. THANK YOU. I GOT ONE THING HERE. YOU, MAYBE YOU CAN STRAIGHTEN ME OUT. UH, THIS, UH, TAX, ANNUAL TAX INCREASE, 49.90, THAT'S, THAT'S IF BOTH OF THESE PASS. YES. CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO IF THE JAIL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT PASSES, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA BE EVEN LOWER. YES, SIR. EXACTLY. UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE IT ON HERE, BUT YES, SIR. I JUST WON'T. YES, SIR. I CAN CALCULATE THAT FOR YOU. BUT IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY IF THEY PASS OR ONE OF THE OTHER PASSES, THAT NUMBER NUMBER'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT. YES, SIR. IT'D BE THE SAME PRORATION AS, UH, WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE TAX RATE ITSELF OUT OF 4.99, 1.1. RIGHT. EIGHT. ONE OF THAT BEING JAIL. WELL, WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THAT FOUR POINT, UH, NINE NINE WOULD APPLY TO 49. NINE 80, THAT NUMBER? YES, SIR. WELL, AND IN FACT, IT'D BE ABOUT $18 AND 10 CENTS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE JAIL AND ABOUT 30, UH, $1 AND 80 CENTS FOR THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE? THANK YOU, GEORGE. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I KNOW THAT, UH, JUST TO UPDATE THOSE, THAT, THAT WERE NOT HERE LAST FRIDAY, UH, WE HAD A LENGTHY, NEARLY FOUR HOURS ACTUALLY, UH, WHERE WE ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO COME. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU, UH, WERE HERE. UH, I SEE SOME FACES THAT WERE NOT HERE. UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, ALLOW JUST A VERY BRIEF, UH, ONE TO TWO MINUTES PER PERSON IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK AGAIN, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, WE SPENT ABOUT FOUR HOURS NEARLY, UH, LISTENING TO CITIZENS AND GETTING SOME GOOD FEEDBACK AND HAD A GOOD DIALOGUE WITH THAT. UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AGAIN, UH, JUST BRIEFLY, BUT I'M GONNA HOLD YOU TO A SHORTER PERIOD, GIVEN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT WE DID ALREADY GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? UH, UHOH UHOH. UHOH . I WANT COMMEND YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR YOUR, YOUR DECORUM DOING THIS. UH, YOU GUYS ARE IN A HARD SPOT. I WAS THERE AND I'M CERTAINLY GLAD I'M NOT NOW. SO, AND THE FORMER COMMISSIONER, I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT SOME HYPOTHETICALS. WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE $286 MILLION BOND ISSUE RIGHT NOW. UH, BUT DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD, YOU GUYS GOT WORSE THINGS COMING. YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO DO SOME TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL GOT A CAPITAL BUDGET OR NOT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS. YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM AT MINERAL WELLS HIGHWAY AND THE GOING TO I 20 AT THAT INTERSECTION, IT'S JUST JAMMED UP. IT'S A HALF A MILE LONG, SAME WAY WITH 51 HIGHWAY THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED. WHEN, WHEN THAT LOOP COMES INTO 51, IT BACKS UP A HALF MILE AND THAT'S A NEW BOND ISSUE. BUT REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS, UH, YOU ALL FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE ARCHITECT AND THE ENGINEERS, BUT JUST SOME HYPOTHETICALS. THE FIRST ONE I TALKED ABOUT OVER WEST LOOP IS GONNA BE PROBABLY A $50 MILLION DEAL. THEN YOU GOT THE SOUTH LOOP, WHICH IS AT AIRPORT HIGHWAY. I'M SURE MR. HALE KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS. YES, SIR. FROM AIRPORT ROAD DOWN TO MICAS, THAT'S GONNA BE A LOOP SOMEDAY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH MR. RE. I TRIED TO DO THAT WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER TO NO AVAIL. UH, YOU GOT A HUGE PROBLEM COMING UP AT WALSH RANCH IN ALITO. YOUR WALSH RANCH IS, AND, AND THIS, THIS NEW CAMPUS COMING IN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HALF A BILLION DOLLAR BOND ISSUE ON THIS DEAL. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A LOOP AROUND TOLEDO, WHICH I TRIED TO GET DONE WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS FOR [00:10:01] EVERY A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON 5% OF THAT IS INTEREST. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT INTEREST THAT'S RIDICULOUS ON SOME OF THIS, LIKE $286 MILLION. I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY IT. YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. IT'S 5% PROBABLY, OF COURSE. UM, SO YOU GOT $200 MILLION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE $10 MILLION TO SERVICE THAT DEBT. $300 MILLION. YOU'VE GOT $15 MILLION TO SERVICE THAT DEBT. IT GOES ON, ON 500 MILLION, IS $25 MILLION TO SERVICE THAT DEBT PER YEAR. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BEFORE THIS THING IS OVER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BILLION DOLLARS AND ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT INCLUDING WATER OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO WHAT MY POINT IS TODAY IS YOU HAVE TO BE CONSERVATIVE. 'CAUSE YOU GOT A LOT MORE COMING DOWN THE ROAD. SOME OF YOU GUYS WILL RETIRE AND YOU NOW HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT THE REST OF YOU GUYS GOT A TOUGH JOB AHEAD. AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. BUT I, I DO LIKE TO COMMEND YOU GUYS. YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER AND IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT. SO I, I'M REALLY TICKLED BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ALWAYS THE CASE WHEN I WAS AT THE COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU MR. WEBSTER. I DO WANNA RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE, UH, THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, ONE TRANSPORTATION. I'M YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. WE JUST LAST YEAR PAST THE LARGEST TRANSPORTATION BOND IN THE HISTORY OF PARKER COUNTY AT $130 MILLION OF THAT $130 MILLION. JUST TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE POINTS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, UH, WALSH RANCH, UH, WE HAVE GOTTEN SUPPORT OR COMMITMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON OVER $50 MILLION TO, ON THAT EXCHANGE, ON THAT EASTERN EXCHANGE THERE. AS THAT DEVELOPS OUT TO GET THAT SUPPORTED, IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE IT ALL. AND LIKELY WE'LL BE A IN, IN SOME FORM ON A FUTURE BOND PACKAGE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON WITH TDOT AND COG COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS. UH, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, OF THAT $130 MILLION, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH, AND WE, UH, HAD A LOT OF, UH, AND MY, MY PREVIOUS COUNTY JUDGE, JUDGE RILEY, UH, WAS ALWAYS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THESE, UH, MATCHING FUNDS, IF YOU WILL. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, IF YOU FACTOR IN THE EXPANSION OF WHAT WILL BE THE, UM, THE ACCESS ROADS TO I 20 AND THE EXPANSION OF I 20, WE'RE GETTING OVER $1.5 BILLION FOR THAT. SO THAT IS A HUGE DEAL, AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. AND SO WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THE GLOBAL PICTURE OF GROWTH HERE. UH, WE'RE CLEARLY NOT IN A VERY SOLID FOUR POSITION IN THE NATION IN GROWTH. SO WE'RE FACTORING ALL THESE THINGS IN TO WHERE AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO WHAT IS THE COUNTY. AND SO THE COUNTY IS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM OF PARKER COUNTY. WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND SO, UM, I WANT TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS, ON THIS PHASED APPROACH, EXCUSE ME, ON THIS PHASED APPROACH. AND LOOKING AT WHAT INITIALLY WE DID, WE CAME OUT AND LOOKED AT THAT. UM, WE, WE DID THE VERY BEST WE COULD IN TRYING TO GET THAT DOWN. AGAIN, BEING FOCUSED ON THE TAXPAYER, UH, WE UNDERSTAND WHO'S OUR BOSS AND WE DON'T OWN THESE CHAIRS WE SET IN, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE ONE PAYING IT. BUT I WILL AGAIN SAY AS IT WAS REITERATE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT THAT, UH, OF THESE PREVIOUS TRANSPORTATION BONDS, IT WAS, WE ABSORBED ALL THOSE COSTS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE. YOU MENTIONED A CONSERVATIVE BODY HERE. IT DOESN'T GET MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THAT. AND SO THIS IS OUT BASED ON NEED. IT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE'LL GROW OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE TRANSPORTATION OF THESE PRISONERS. THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A GREAT JUSTICE SYSTEM AND A GREAT SHERIFF THAT'S GETTING THESE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AS WE NEED TO. AND SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT NOW, NUMBER ONE, FIRST AND FOREMOST THE PRIORITY IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. AND THAT'S DRIVING THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS THROUGH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THROUGH THIS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT THAT ALSO A BIG PART OF WHAT, ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP WAS THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT. I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME BECAUSE ONE, THIS IS NOT TODAY'S DOLLARS. THIS IS WHAT THE PENDING DOLLARS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA START BUILDING THIS TOMORROW. ONE, IT'S GOTTA PASS TWO, IT IT, EXCUSE ME. IF IT DOES PASS, THEN THAT AS WE GET DOWN THE ROAD, ONCE THAT CONSTRUCTION STARTS IN THE ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THAT TIME WILL BE, THEN, THEN AS THE BIDDING PROCESS OF THIS STARTS WILL DRIVE DOWN THOSE COSTS AS WELL. SO WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT OUR ARCHITECTURAL FIRM HAS DONE HERE. UM, AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO THE NEED OF THIS, BUT THAT I [00:15:01] THINK I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH THIS. THIS COURT IS VERY, UM, I THINK UNITED IN THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NEEDS OF THIS COUNTY ARE AND STAYING ON A VERY PERFORMANCE, NOT PERFORMANCE, A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO WHAT THESE NEEDS ARE, LOOKING AT THE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT. AND SO WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SAID, SIR. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYTHING THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION? SO ON THE, UH, INTERSECTION OF RICK WILLIAMSON 180 AS PART OF THIS LAST BOND PACKAGE, WE ARE DOING THE DESIGN WORK. THE COUNTY IS FUNDING THE DESIGN WORK FOR THAT OVERPASS THERE. AND THAT'S BEING FUNDED WITH FEDERAL MONEY AND WILL COME, COME ABOUT AS PART OF THE BOND PACKAGE. BUT ALL WE'RE PAYING FOR OUT OF THE PROJECTED 17 TO $20 MILLION COST OF THAT EXCHANGE OVERPASS AND EVERYTHING. THERE IS, UH, JUST THE DESIGN FEES FROM OUR ENGINEERS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW WE WERE DOING A LITTLE BIT, BUT GETTING A LOT FOR IT. AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHICH EXACTLY WHICH BOND TRANSPORTATION BOND PAID FOR RICK WILLIAMSON. IF IT WAS THE ORIGINAL 2008, PROBABLY GEORGE, IT WAS. UM, SO AT THAT TIME, UH, THEY, THEY DEEMED IT, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD NOT AFFORD AND AT THAT POINT THAT BRIDGE WOULD'VE COST $4 MILLION. AND NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD SOMEWHERE IN THE 17 TO $20 MILLION RANGE TO BUILD THAT OVERPASS IN THAT EXCHANGE THERE. UM, I KNOW THEY DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD AND I DON'T EVER GO BACK TO SECOND GUESS OPINIONS OF COURTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION THAT THEY COULD AT THE TIME AND MADE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT, AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT BASED ON THE, ALL THE INFORMATION WE, WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED, THAT THIS COURT WILL MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND FOR THE COUNTY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. YES, I'LL ADDRESS THE AIRPORT ROAD 'CAUSE THAT'S A BIG, BIG, BIG, THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE SOUTH LOOP. AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE VISION, BUT MY OPINION IS THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO I 20 IN THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE COMING. I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT A BIGGER PICTURE. I'M SORRY. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A, A BIGGER PICTURE THAT'S YEAH. , YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT YEAH. AND ROOM FOR THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OVER ON PRECINCT FOUR SIDE IS JUST EXPONENTIAL. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT AS WELL AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES VERY WELL. THANK YOU MR. WEBSTER. ON THE 51 IN RICK WILLIAMSON, WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO FIND SOME AREAS OF SAVINGS IN THE 2016 BOND, OR NO, THE 2 20 23 BOND. AS SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME SAVINGS IN THAT BOND TO ALLOW US TO ESTABLISH A TURN LANE FOR TRAFFIC THAT IS HEADED WEST ON RICK WILLIAMSON AND TURNING NORTH ONTO FM 51. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S A PROJECT WE CAN GET DONE WITHOUT ANOTHER BOND, BUT IT PROBABLY WILL BE A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL THAT WORK IS ACTUALLY COMPLETED. OKAY, EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY. I WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDER CALLING A BOND ELECTION IN THE COUNTY ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025 FOR PROPOSITION A FOR THE JAIL IN THE AMOUNT OF 104,755,000. AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MYSELF. YOU MADE THE MOTION. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, YOU BEAT ME TO IT. UH, COMMISSIONER HALE HAS MADE THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. IF YOU WOULD JUST DO AN AUDIBLE. AYE. ANY NAYS? CARRIE? FIVE. OH, THANK YOU. I'LL ALSO MAKE, COULD YOU REPEAT FOR CARRIED? IT CARRIED FIVE. FIVE OH. I'LL ALSO MAKE A MOTION FOR PROPOSITION B FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, FOR PROOF OF AN ORDER CALLING FOR THE BOND ELECTION ON THE COUNTY ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025 FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF 181 MILLION 181,605,000. I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION. COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS MADE THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER HOLT HAS MADE THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. [00:20:01] AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION CARRIES. FIVE. OH, I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY JUST THANK THE COMMITTEE. UH, HOW MANY, IF YOU WERE ON THAT COMMITTEE, COULD YOU STAND UP PLEASE? RIGHT. YOU ON, THIS DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE BODY. WHERE, WEREN'T YOU ON THAT COMMITTEE? I THOUGHT, RICHARD, YOU'RE ON EVERY COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. YOU'RE ON EVERY COMMITTEE. I THOUGHT HE GOT KICKED OFF OF THAT. UM, THIS DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE BODY OF THAT COMMITTEE. ALSO, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, IF YOU WOULD STAND, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE HERE AS WELL. UH, AGAIN, I, I COMMEND THIS COURT FOR ITS VISION, UH, FOR ITS LEADERSHIP AND, AND, AND CONSERVATISM. AND AGAIN, PUSHING TO TRY TO GIVE THE BEST PROSPECT YET IDENTIFYING THOSE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNTY. THIS IS REALLY DIFF A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION IN DEALING WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE. WE HAVE A VIBRANT ECONOMY. UH, WE OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, WHICH I THINK IS OVER 35 PEOPLE OR MORE, WE'RE MOVING HERE EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THAT GROWTH AND BE PROACTIVE AND I COMMEND THIS COURT FOR THAT. AND SO, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? JUDGE, DO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN HAND OUT TO PEOPLE THAT HAS THOSE NUMBERS ON IT BY CHANCE? I'M SORRY, SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT HAS THOSE NUMBERS ON HAND OUT BY CHANCE? SIR, WE, WE DO. RICH THE DOOR ON? YES, WE HAVE. UH, AND, AND THANK YOU JEFF, FOR BRINGING THAT OUT. UM, RICH WILL MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL CAN GET THOSE THAT HAS ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT'S OUTLINED AND WHAT WE JUST DID TODAY, UH, AND WE PUT THAT IN WRITING FOR YOU. PLEASE GET ONE BEFORE YOU LEAVE AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THAT, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT YOUR COMMISSIONER OR MYSELF. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. A SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 10 45. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.