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          MORNING. 
          [Call to Order]
I WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, BUDGET AGENDA FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 19TH, UH, 2025. 
          AND THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 9 0 1. 
          UH, WE'LL MOVE TO CONSIDER DISCUSSING, ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS ON ITEM ONE ON THE PRESENT, DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 20 25, 20 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ITEM A PRESENT DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 25 26. 
          UH, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE WANNA TALK ABOUT ON THAT? AND JUST MOVE ON, I, BASED ON AUDIENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ON ITEM D, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BEST TALKING? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ITEM 
          [I.D. Human Services Budget Requests. (Brianna Fowler/ Judge Deen)]
1D, HUMAN SERVICES BUDGET REQUEST. 
          AND YOU HAVE A, A SCHEDULE ON THERE. 
          AND DO WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM FOR DEPARTMENT SIX 40 ON HUMAN SERVICES? UNDER, UH, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE. 
          WE WILL START WITH THE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. 
          VICKY BENEDICT. 
          UH, I THINK WE GOT RUTH HERE. 
          I SEE RUTH SWAIN SAID BACK THERE, RUTH. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WOULD YOU LIKE YEAH. 
          COME ON UP. 
          COME ON UP. 
          COME ON UP. 
          I'M SEEING A, I'M SEEING A PRETTY GOOD BOOK YOU WROTE FOR US AT SOME POINT HERE, RUTH. 
          WELL, I DID. 
          IT'S ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          I, I THANK YOU. 
          ABLE TO GLANCE THROUGH IT HERE, BUT IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS VERY THOROUGH. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU FOR SEEING US. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'M RUTH SWAIN. 
          I'M THE TREASURER OF THE PARKER COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BOARD. 
          I HAVE WITH ME VICKY BENEDICT. 
          SHE'S VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR BOARD. 
          AND I HAVE WITH ME ALSO WESLEY FULLER. 
          HE'S OUR LIAISON WITH OUR, UM, EXCUSE ME, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR KIDS. 
          AND SO I DID SUBMIT, UH, TO RICH CONTRERAS, UM, OUR REQUEST FOR FUNDING SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION AS WELL AS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. 
          UM, OUR BOARD, UM, JUST TO KEEP THIS VERY BRIEF, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO GO OVER. 
          OUR BOARD, UM, TRIES TO FOLLOW OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH IS TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE BASIC NEEDS OF CHILDREN IN OUR COUNTY. 
          HOWEVER, BASIC NEEDS SEEM TO GO BEYOND CLOTHING, SHOES, SCHOOL SUPPLIES, UH, SUMMER CAMPS. 
          ONE THING THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WITHIN OUR COUNTY, AS OUR COUNTY POPULATION GROWS, THE NEEDS ARE GROWING ALSO. 
          UM, WESLEY CAN ATTEST TO THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH HIS OFFICE FOR THINGS SUCH AS, AGAIN, CLOTHING, ORTHODONTIC, DENTAL, SOME ADDITIONAL MEDICAL, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE AFTERSCHOOL CARE WHERE THE PARENTS OR FOSTER PARENTS ARE WORKING. 
          THE NEEDS. 
          OUR, OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS VERY GENERAL, BUT AGAIN, THE NEEDS WITHIN THE COUNTY ARE EXPANDING. 
          AND SO THAT, THEREFORE, WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THE COUNTY. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS $34,600. 
          AND CERTAINLY WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THESE TWO PEOPLE STANDING WITH ME DO A WONDERFUL JOB. 
          OUR MISSION AND WHAT WE STRIVE FOR THE BOARD IS TO PROVIDE TO THESE CHILDREN, THINGS THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE, UH, PROVIDED OTHERWISE, EITHER BY THE FOSTER PARENTS OR OTHER SOURCES, WHETHER THAT BE CHURCHES, WHATEVER. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHERS WANNA SPEAK? I, WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          UH, I'M, GO AHEAD. 
          AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN? SO WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          IS IT ANY OF Y'ALL? ANY Y'ALL WANNA SPEAK? WELL, I THINK, I THINK I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT WHAT THE MONEY IS USED FOR. 
          UH, AS I LOOK ON, ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR DEAL, IT ISN'T VERY, VERY DETAILED, UH, OF WHERE IT GOES, UH, AND, AND WHAT THE MONEY GETS USED FOR. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THE SAME AMOUNT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE GET ASKED QUESTIONS. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THIS MONEY GO FOR. 
          AND SO YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT. 
          WE JUST WANT YOU TO, TO, TO, TO VERIFY THAT, THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED LESS MONEY. 
           AND, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY GOES. 
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I SHOULD HAVE WAITED FOR HER TO VERIFY THAT. 
          WELL, NICE TRY, COMMISSIONER. 
          ANYHOW. 
          WELL, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR LESS, BUT, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY GOES, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE DO EACH YEAR, AND IT'S, IT'S DETAILED IN THERE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT WE DO OUR CHRISTMAS FOR KIDS PROGRAM, UH, THAT USUALLY PROVIDES CHRISTMAS FOR ANYWHERE FROM SAY, A HUNDRED TO, IT MIGHT EVEN BE UP TO 200 KIDS. 
          WE REQUEST SPONSORS FOR THOSE CHILDREN FIRST. 
          UH, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET SPONSORS, THEN WE PAY FOR THAT WITHIN THE BOARD. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO, WE JUST GOT THROUGH DOING, IS WE SEND CASEWORKERS TO THE CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN CONFERENCE IN DALLAS. 
          AND THAT ENABLES THOSE CASEWORKERS TO GO TO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEMINARS, UH, ANYWHERE FROM HUMAN TRAFFICKING, SEXUAL ABUSE, NEGLECT, UM, BECAUSE THE CASEWORKERS WORK WITHIN A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL PROFESSION. 
          THERE'S LOTS OF TURNOVER. 
          AND IT JUST GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, MEET WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE SAME PROFESSION, LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, AND HOW TO HANDLE THAT. 
          THOSE ARE TWO THINGS. 
          WE PROBABLY SPEND CLOSE TO 15 TO $20,000 A YEAR FOR CLOTHING ITSELF. 
          AND AGAIN, WESLEY COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THE FUNDS ARE PUT TO VERY, VERY GOOD USE. 
          AND ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WE'RE VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR GENEROSITY IN THE YEARS PAST. 
          SO WE, WHY DON'T YOU TELL US ABOUT HOW, WHAT THESE KIDS ARE, THESE ARE NOT JUST SOMEBODY THAT DROPS IN SAYS, I NEED SOMETHING. 
          YES. 
          SO WHO ARE, WHO ARE THESE CHILDREN THAT THIS, THIS GROUP SERVES? SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO MY NAME IS WESLEY FULLER. 
          I'M WITH OUR COMMUNITY, OUR KIDS. 
          WE ARE THE NON-PROFIT THAT IS IN, THAT IS, UH, CONTRACTED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM AND ADOPTION SYSTEM IN PARKER COUNTY, AS WELL AS SOME SURROUNDING COUNTIES. 
          SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CPS WORKERS HERE, UM, THAT BOTH IN THE FPSS, WHICH IS THEIR FAMILY-BASED SAFETY SERVICES. 
          SO KIDS THAT ARE ABLE TO REMAIN SAFE, BUT IN HOME WITH SOME EXTRA SUPPORT FROM THE STATE, UH, FROM WORKERS TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THEY REMAIN SAFE AS WELL AS THE CHILD PROTECTIVE INVESTIGATORS WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO THOSE HOMES TO FIND OUT IF THAT CHILD IS SAFE AFTER A REPORT OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT. 
          SO WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT COLLECTIVELY ARE THE FOSTER CARE AND ADOPTION SYSTEM, THE CPS SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL, IN PARKER COUNTY. 
          UM, SO THESE CHILDREN THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SERVING, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE EITHER CURRENTLY THEIR FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION, AND THAT COULD BE FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS FOR ABUSE, NEGLECT OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, ARE IN THEIR FBSS, UH, STAGE. 
          SO THEY'RE IN THE HOME, BUT THEY NEED A LOT OF SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS ARE MEETING THEIR FINANCIAL, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CHILDREN. 
          AND THEY'RE ABLE TO REMAIN SAFE AND HEALTHY IN THAT HOME. 
          OR IF THEY'RE IN OUR CARE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN FOSTER CARE. 
          SO THEY'RE REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME. 
          THEY ARE IN THE CARE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, UNDER THE CARE OF OUR NONPROFIT, THAT IS THE ONES THAT ARE CHARGED WITH, UH, TAKING CARE OF THOSE KIDS FOR PARKER COUNTY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR Y'ALL. 
          IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING OR DONATING, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, THE, TO THE DOZENS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS STREAM RIGHT NOW, UM, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GET INVOLVED, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO GET INVOLVED? UM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR, UM, WHETHER IT BE OUR BOARD RIGHT NOW IS AT CAPACITY FOR VOTING MEMBERS, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SERVE AS ASSOCIATE OR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS. 
          UM, ON OUR WEBSITE, UH, THERE'S AN EMAIL AND IT'S WELL ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          UM, IT HAS, IT'S PARKER COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BOARD.ORG, AND THAT IS ABBREVIATED.ORG. 
          UH, IF THEY WOULD JUST EMAIL US AND LET US KNOW WE'RE INTERESTED IN, UH, VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE DURING THE YEAR, LIKE DURING APRIL, I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, UM, WE DO A BIG CAMPAIGN. 
          APRIL IS CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH. 
          AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES DURING APRIL THAT GO ON AS FAR AS, UH, MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS GOING OUT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ELECTRONIC SIGNS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN GET THE MESSAGE OUT. 
          SO ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING AND ANY WAY THAT'S, THAT'S A WAY, UM, VIA FACEBOOK, UH, TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PERFECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES BY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          UH, FREEDOM HOUSE. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE PATTY HERE? GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK 
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YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          UH, WE KEPT OUR REQUEST AT THE SAME AS WE ALWAYS HAVE 29,400. 
          UH, OUR GOVERNMENT FUNDING HAS BEEN DECREASED A BIT THIS YEAR. 
          THE SERVICES HAVE INCREASED DUE TO, TO NEW LAWS IN THE FAMILY CODE AND THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. 
          WE ARE NOW GONNA BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 13 TO 25 PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN DAY AND NIGHT IN THE SHELTER. 
          WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT CAPACITY BEFORE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THE MINIMUM STAY IS NOW BEING MOVED UP TO 30 DAYS. 
          UM, AND IF THEY NEED LONGER, WE GIVE THEM THAT. 
          UH, WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED NOW, UH, TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A LOT MORE LIKE HYGIENE PRODUCTS. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS HAD 'EM AVAILABLE, BUT THEY NO LONGER WEREN'T. 
          WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM ASK FOR IT. 
          WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT OUT FOR THEM TO ACCESS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO INVEST IN SOME MORE OF THOSE PRODUCTS BECAUSE THEY DO, WHEN THEY'RE IN THAT CRISIS MODE, THEY DON'T WANNA LET GO OF ANYTHING THAT THEY STILL OWN AND THEY WANT TO ADD TO THAT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT SOME MORE EXPENSES AND I'M WORKING ON ADDITIONAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING, BUT IT'S NOT OUT THERE YET. 
          UH, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS HAVE, UH, BEEN DEPLETED. 
          SO THAT IS EXHAUSTED AS OF AUGUST 31ST. 
          AND THE VOCA FUNDING HAS HAD A, A SLIGHT CUT. 
          AND THOSE WERE VERY BIG RESOURCES FOR US. 
          SO WE ARE HELPING THE COMMUNITY A LOT. 
          WE GET OUT, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER, I DIDN'T, I'M IN THE FRONT ROW. 
          I DIDN'T SEE WHO ELSE HERE, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE ALL HELP EACH OTHER AND, AND RESOURCE PROVIDE RESOURCES AND LOOK UP RESOURCES FOR EACH OTHER THAT THE OTHERS MAY NOT KNOW OF. 
          BUT WE SEE, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, WE SEE, UH, MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN. 
          THERE'S NO AGE LIMIT. 
          AND WE HELPED A 94-YEAR-OLD LADY LAST NIGHT AND, AND WE HAD A BABY IN THE SHELTER A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          THAT WASN'T EVEN SIX MONTHS YET. 
          SO WE'VE GOT ALL AGES AND A LOT OF NEEDS OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR PATTY? MS. PATTY, HOW MUCH HAS YOUR FUNDING BEEN CUT FROM THE VARIOUS, IF YOU HAD TO GUESS OVERALL FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES, YOU TALKED ABOUT $72,000. 
          OUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          , IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE STATE THAT CAN HELP? I HAVE APPLIED, SO WE'RE STILL WAITING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEY, THEY'RE PRETTY SLOW WITH THE STATE FUNDING THAT WE GET IS THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED LAST, UH, I THINK IT WAS APRIL. 
          AND ALL OF US ACROSS THE STATE ARE STILL WAITING ON THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALMOST EVERY YEAR WE GET, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I THINK FROM SOMEBODY OUT IN THE PUBLIC THAT SAYS THAT, THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE FUNDING ANY OF THESE, UH, GROUPS LIKE YOURS. 
          WHY DON'T YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THE SITUATION WOULD BE IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY? HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOU? WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE SERVICES 'CAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE US I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT TELL JUST HOW. 
          SO, SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE? SO WE PRO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AS MANY THERAPY SESSIONS NOR ADVOCACY SESSIONS, WHICH INCLUDES LIKE COURT ACCOMPANIMENT AND, AND, UM, WE DO HELP WITH SCHOOL SUPPLY. 
          WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH CCP, UM, WITH CPS. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THOSE PARENTS ARE SENT TO US FOR PARENTING CLASSES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? CURIOUS. 
          PAVO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, TO CALL ME WITH ANY OTHER, WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          THANK, UH, SENIOR CENTER, TY SMITH AND, AND TEAM. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          A LITTLE TALLER. 
          SO I'M GONNA PUT THIS UP JUST A TAD. 
          UM, SO IT'S, I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF DIVE IN AND KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION AND KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON WHAT LARRY JUST SAID. 
          UM, THE NEED FOR SERVICES, I THINK IS GROWING ON EVERY NONPROFIT IN THIS COUNTY. 
          UM, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BIG THE POPULATION IS GROWING HERE IN PARKER COUNTY, AND THAT MEANS THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP. 
          UM, SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE. 
          AS OF LAST WEEK, MEALS ON WHEELS HAD TO BE PLACED ON A WAIT LIST. 
          UM, GOVERNMENT FUNDING IS A BIG CONTRIBUTOR OF THAT. 
          WE KNEW THE FUNDING CUT WAS HAPPENING LAST YEAR. 
          UM, AND WE ARE JUST AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOT RECEIVING ANY REIMBURSEMENT FOR THEM, UM, FROM THE GOVERNMENT UNTIL 
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AT LEAST DECEMBER. 
          UM, SO WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD FINANCIALLY TO CONTINUE TO PUT MORE PEOPLE ON. 
          UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE STOPPING SERVICE, THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO ADD ON TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN DIVING DEEP INTO OUR FILES TO REALLY LOOK AND SEE DO THEY STILL QUALIFY? HAS THEIR SITUATION CHANGED? UM, AND WE ARE JUST ASSESSING AT GREATEST NEED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE, IF WE HAVE TO PUT SOMEBODY ELSE ON THAT'S SCORING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND MOVE SOMEBODY OFF ONTO THE WAIT LIST, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY LOOKING FORWARD, UM, OUR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT IS ABOUT THE SAME. 
          UM, BUT OUR COST PER UNIT IS UP 75 CENTS FOR THIS COMING YEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE US FOR ABOUT 27,000 UNITS. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SERVING OVER 63,000. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ABOUT $245,000 THAT WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH, UM, IN ORDER TO SERVE OUR SENIOR POPULATION. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THIS YEAR. 
          GO. 
          UM, COVID FUNDING REALLY HELPED US IN THE PAST WHERE WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T IN THIS SITUATION. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FUNDS AROUND WHERE WE COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE WHOEVER WE WANTED AND HOWEVER MANY MEALS WE ESSENTIALLY NEEDED TO SERVE. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. 
          UM, IS, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE. 
          THERE'S, UM, UNCERTAINTY ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING IS GOING TO DO AS WELL. 
          UM, BUDGETS HAVEN'T BEEN SET. 
          IT'S BEEN DELAYED AT LEAST THREE MONTHS THIS YEAR. 
          NOTHING HAS BEEN SIGNED OR CONTRACTED. 
          UM, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO OUR VERY BEST TO STILL FUNDRAISE. 
          WE'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR NUMEROUS GRANTS, UM, STILL PARTNERING WITH THE HEALTH FOUNDATION AND UNITED WAY, UM, TO JUST DO EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          WHAT KIND OF FUNDRAISERS DO Y'ALL HAVE? SO WE HAVE FOUR MANY FUNDRAISERS A YEAR. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE USUALLY OUR BINGO FUNDRAISERS AT THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          AND THEN WE DO OUR BIG SENIOR PROMMING GALA AT AN OUTSIDE VENUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          CY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT FUNDING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING THAT CLOSE TO YOU THROUGH THE MEALS ON WHEELS THROUGH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE THE GOVERNMENT TO YES. 
          NOT THROUGH HERE. 
          YES. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, IT IS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IN THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING GENERALLY FOR SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW OR, OR WHATEVER, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS OR WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ON MEALS ON ON WHEELS? SO THE BASE GUIDELINES THAT THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING HAS SET FOR US IS YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 60 YEARS OF AGE. 
          YOU CANNOT PREPARE A AT NUTRITIOUS MEAL FOR YOURSELF. 
          UM, AND YOU ARE HOME BOUND. 
          WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED MORE RESTRICTIONS JUST BECAUSE OF THE INFLUX OF REFERRALS, AND WE WANNA TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER FOR THOSE THAT TRULY NEED THE, THE SERVICE. 
          UM, SO ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES FOR US IS THEY ARE NOT LIVING WITH FAMILY OR A CLOSE FRIEND THAT CAN PREPARE A MEAL FOR THEM. 
          UM, AND THEY CAN'T STAND FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME IN ORDER TO PREPARE THAT MEAL FOR THEMSELF. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE THERE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO CLARIFY? MY MOTION IS FOR THE AMOUNT OF 47 1 1 5 THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED PER THE LETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE. 
          I THANK YOU. 
          THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PERSON. 
          ALITO, PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          ERICA COOPER BATEMAN. 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MORNING. 
          HI. 
          UM, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE, UH, WHERE I'M WITH THE CITY OF ALITO, WE IN THE PAST YEAR HAVE TAKEN OVER THE EAST PARKER COUNTY LIBRARY. 
          SINCE THEN, UH, WE HAVE HAD OVER A 20,000, 27,000 VISITORS, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S FUNDING LEVEL OF 22,770 TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF ALL PARKER COUNTY. 
          CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT CHARGE A FEE FOR PARKER COUNTY RESIDENTS. 
          UH, SO ANYBODY WITHIN PARKER COUNTY CAN ENJOY THE LIBRARY. 
          THEY CAN HAVE LIBRARY CARDS, ENJOY OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, LITERACY PROGRAMS, VOCATIONAL PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT, THE REQUEST THAT I SENT OVER, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT LESS THAN ONE THIRD OF THE ALITO LIBRARIES, 4,400 NON EXPIRED LIBRARY CARDS WERE HELD BY CITY OF LIDO RESIDENTS. 
          SO WE DO SERVE A LARGE POPULATION OF PARKER COUNTY. 
          UM, WE WILL BE ALSO MOVING INTO OUR NEW LIBRARY THIS THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE DO EXPECT AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN PROGRAMMING. 
          SO, AND THAT, AND THAT'S IN THE NEW CITY HALL BILL, CORRECT? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WHEN, WHEN DID THE, UM, ACQUISITION OF THE CITY OF ALITO ACQUIRE? 
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I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE OF LAST YEAR, OR AUGUST IN THE SUMMER LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS GOING ON LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE HERE. 
          IT WAS, I BELIEVE, I THINK IT WAS AROUND BUDGET TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAME IN TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          COMMISSIONER WALDEN, WOULD YOU, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE? I THINK YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I, ON THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY PROGRAM MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, THAT WE SEE IN A COUPLE OF THE OTHERS. 
          AND I, I WANT TO BRING THAT UP TO SEE THE NEXT QUESTION, KIND OF WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING? AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE WE'RE SEEING, SO IN WEATHERFORD, WE HAVE A, A GROUP CALLED FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. 
          I THINK THE SHERIFF IS PROBABLY A MEMBER OF THAT. 
          I AM, I THINK JOHN IS SEVERAL OF US THERE. 
          AND, UH, THEY WORK TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS OF THE LIBRARY. 
          UH, THEY, THEY HOLD FUNDRAISERS, UH, UH, IN, IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, UH, FOR THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD, UH, THEY HAVE CHARGED, UH, A FEE FOR OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD RESIDENCE TO USE THE LIBRARY OF $50. 
          AND, UH, SO WE HAVE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, UH, AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IF SOMEONE NEEDS A SCHOLARSHIP PER SE, YOU YOU CALL IT, IF THEY NEED THAT $50 PAID, THEN THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WILL PAY IT AND CAN CHARGE IT BACK TO US. 
          THAT THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UH, APPARENTLY, UH, AMOUNT OF MONEY SET ASIDE THEMSELVES FOR THIS. 
          AND SO THEY HAVE NEVER ACCESSED THE MONEY WE'VE SET ASIDE FOR THE, FOR THAT. 
          BUT, BUT THEIR, THEIR SUPPORT GROUP, UH, FOR THE LIBRARY TO, TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT IT AND, UH, AND ALL THE PROGRAMMING. 
          SO IF YOU HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT ALITO, UM, WHICH I THINK IS A, A VERY, VERY GOOD DEAL. 
          THERE ARE LOT, LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY, UH, IN WAYS THAT, UH, UH, ARE OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING. 
          HOW'S THAT? YEAH, NEXT QUESTION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
           NO, THAT YOU DID. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF YOU'D SPEAK TO, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, I KNOW THE CITY OF ALITO HAS A LOT OF CHANGES RECENTLY AND A LOT OF CHANGES IN GROWTH GOING ON OVER THERE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT ALSO TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST. 
          BUT I'D ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE TYPES OR STARTING THAT TYPE, HELPING GET IT STARTED AND LOOK AT FUNDRAISERS. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE YEAH. 
          UM, HOW MUCH THE COUNTY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I KNOW WE DO HAVE, UM, A FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY PROGRAM. 
          I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW LARGE THEIR PRESENCE IS CURRENTLY. 
          UM, AGAIN, I KNOW THEY HELPED A LOT WHEN IT WAS PART OF THE COUNTY MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WITH ALL THE CHANGES, I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OUR SIZING AND YES, MA'AM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY NEEDS A BOOSTER CLUB, BUT THEY'LL BE YOUR BOOSTER CLUB AND HELP RAISE MONEY FOR YOU TO MAKE THINGS WORK THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SAY BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CURIOUS , UH, MOVE TO PECAN VALLEY. 
          UH, RUBEN DEAS. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS RUBEN DE JOS AND I'M REPLACING THE PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, COKE BEATTY. 
          COKE BEATTY. 
          RETIRED IN MAY. 
          UM, SO MY FIRST DAY, THIS WAS JUNE 1ST, BUT I HAVE BEEN WITH CON VALLEY CENTER SINCE 2001. 
          SO, UH, I'VE BEEN HIS, UH, ASSISTANT FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO, SO WHAT'S HE DOING? HE'S PLAYING GOLF. 
          . 
          YEAH, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S DOING A LOT OF GOLF. 
          YOU CAN COME BACK AROUND AND VOLUNTEER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, HE ACTUALLY, HE'S, HE'S HELPING ME A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, UH, BUILDING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, HAVING BUILT IN GRANBURY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO HE STARTED IT. 
          SO I ASKED HIM TO HELP ME FINISH IT. 
          SO, SO HE SAID HE WOULD, HE'D BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          PROBABLY GEORGE, PROBABLY AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN HERE TOO, SO, YES, SIR. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE DO GET TO SEE HIM EVERY NOW AND THEN. 
          UH, HE CON VALLEY CENTERS, UH, IT'S REQUIRED BY TEXAS HEALTH SAFETY CODE TO, TO REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM ALL COUNTIES THAT, UH, WE SERVE IN THE COMMON VALLEY CENTERS. 
          UM, IS REQUESTING JUST A CONTINUATION OF PREVIOUS, UH, ASSISTANCE OF $24,500 THAT, UM, UH, PARK COUNTY ALLOTTED LAST YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING, UH, TO CONTINUE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          TELL US, TELL US WHAT YOU USE THAT MONEY FOR. 
          I'VE GOT A MOTION. 
          YES. 
          UM, WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS WITH, UH, SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. 
          UH, WE'RE THE SAFETY NET FOR ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. 
          UM, PEOPLE WITH INDIVIDUALS, UH, INDIVIDUALS 
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WITH, UM, UH, SCHIZOPHRENIA, BIPOLAR, MAJOR DEPRESSION, UH, ALSO CHILDREN, UH, WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT EMOTIONAL DISABILITIES AND, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITH INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AS WELL. 
          UH, WE RECENTLY BUILT A, OR STARTED UP A RESPITE PROVI PROGRAM HERE IN PARKER COUNTY FOR OUR YOUTH PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S GOING WELL. 
          IT DID GET, THE GRANT GOT RENEWED, SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT FOR ANOTHER TWO MORE YEARS, AT LEAST HERE IN THIS, THESE COUNTIES SERVING ALL THE COUNTIES. 
          BUT SPECIFICALLY PARKER. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LIFE SKILL CENTER HERE ON SANTA FE AND AN INTAKE FACILITY ON SANTA FE AS WELL TO, UH, UH, ASSESS. 
          AND FINALLY WE DO CRISIS SERVICES AND WE, WE, WE HAVE A CRISIS TEAM THAT RESPONDS, UM, EVERY DAY, 24 7, UH, TO ANY CRISIS CALLS, UH, THROUGH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OR OTHERWISE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN, UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S MENTAL HEARINGS IN MY COURT, AND YES. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE NOW ON A WEEKLY BASIS, UM, YOUR PARTICIPATION AND YOUR SUPPORT HAS MADE SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S QUADRUPLED, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE MENTAL HEARINGS NOW. 
          IT HAS, I THINK THE FIRST YEAR I WAS IN OFFICE, IT WAS LIKE ONE THE WHOLE YEAR, AND NOW IT'S PROBABLY LIKE FIVE OR SIX A WEEK, IT SEEMS WE HAVE SEEN THE INCREASE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I APPRECIATE MYSELF, YOUR HELP, AND IT MAKES THEM A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION YOU'D LIKE OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, IT'S LIKE, WHERE'S THE MAJORITY OF YOUR FUNDING COME FROM? FROM HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES? UM, SO WE GET A BLOCK GRANT MM-HMM . 
          FROM HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND FOR OUR INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES. 
          AND THE REST COME THROUGH GRANTS. 
          UM, AND, AND IF THEY HAVE, IF INDIVIDUAL HAS MEDICAID, WE OBVIOUSLY BILL MEDICAID AS WELL, BUT THAT'S A SMALL PORTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          I, I SECOND THE MOTION AS A COUNTY JUDGE. 
          UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THANK MOTION IN CASE. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, THE, NOT CONFIRMED, BUT CONTACTED ON THE ABANDONED CEMETERY ASSOCIATION. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE ON THAT ITEM? HE'S STILL IN MEXICO. 
          BILL WARREN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL TAKE, TAKE ON THAT. 
          NO, I WANT, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT BILL. 
          UM, BILL SENT, UH, UH, INFORMATION IN AND THE, THE COUNTY, IT'S THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR THESE ABANDONED CEMETERIES. 
          AND SO THIS GROUP WAS BROUGHT TOGETHER, UM, HMM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO, 34 YEARS AGO, UH, BY MARY KEMP AND, UH, MARY, UH, AND, AND SOME EMPLOYEES THAT SHE HAD STARTED RAISING MONEY. 
          AND THEY STARTED, UH, UH, SEEKING OUT THESE ABANDONED CEMETERIES AND CLEANING THEM. 
          AND THEN THIS GROUP COMES BACK, UH, AND, AND CARES FOR THOSE SO THAT THEY AIN'T GROWN UP AND COVERED OVER AND FORGOTTEN AGAIN. 
          ABANDONED CEMETERY, UH, HAS, HAS ASKED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          FOR A LONG TIME IT WAS 10,000, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY RAISED THEM UP TO 11,000 WITHOUT THEM ASKING A COUPLE, THREE YEARS AGO. 
          AND, UH, SO IT'S A VERY WORTHY GROUP. 
          THE, THE, THEY DO THE WORK THAT NOBODY ELSE WILL DO. 
          AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE CEMETERIES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT SYSTEM, UH, THE THE PEOPLE OR JUST ABANDON THEM, THAT NOBODY, NOBODY TENDS TO THEM AT ALL KEEP THEM FROM GETTING OVERGROWN WITH BRUSH AND, AND KEEP THEM MOWED A COUPLE, THREE TIMES A YEAR IN A, IN A YEAR LIKE THIS. 
          IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE A FUNDRAISER, UH, THEY HAVE A RAFFLE AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS EVERY YEAR. 
          I'M NOT A MEMBER OF IT, BUT I'M JUST AWARE OF IT BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THEIR, UH, FUNDRAISER, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND IT IS, IS, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, MONEY THAT'S WELL SPENT. 
          THEY'VE, THEY TALK ABOUT HAVING, UH, UH, SCOUTS COME IN AND DO WORK, UH, WORK ON THE FENCING AND, AND THINGS TO GET THEIR EAGLE SCOUT BADGES. 
          SO VERY WOR WORTHY GROUP. 
          I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, UH, APPROPRIATE $11,000, SAME AS IT HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE ABANDONED CEMETERY ASSOCIATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL FOR $11,000. 
          SECOND, BUT COMMISSIONER HOLT, ANY IN THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE. 
          OH, MOVE TO THE AL PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          IS ONE HERE ON THAT ALSO? THEY HAVE SUBMITTED, NOBODY REACHED OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MOVE. 
          WE APPROVE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'VE BEEN GETTING FOR THE PAST 
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NUMEROUS YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          MOTION CARRIES FIVE OH SPRINGTOWN PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          SAME WITH THE SPRINGTOWN LIBRARY. 
          THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR CONTACTED ME AND ASKED THAT WE KEEP IT THE SAME IF POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA SHIP ME BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          SAY GOODBYE, COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE PABLO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT COMPLETES THE HUMAN RESOURCES. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHERS ON HERE THAT WE WANT TO FAST FORWARD UP ANY OF THE, ANY OUT THAT, UH, 
          [Items I.A. and I.B.]
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM A ON PRESENT, DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET, 2025, UH, 26. 
          UH, BRIANNA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON BEFORE WE PROCEED? OKAY, MOVE DOWN. 
          GO BACK HERE. 
          I THINK WE'RE COMING. 
          OH, SHE IS COMING. 
          I DIDN'T THINK YOU ONE PAGE. 
          UM, THIS IS AN UPDATE FOR A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND RELATED TO THE COUNTY FUNDED PORTION OF JUVENILE PROBATION AS WELL AS J-J-A-E-P. 
          WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          SO THE CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE IN, WHAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING, WHAT THE APPROVED, UM, BUDGET IS FOR THE, FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS, UM, BY THE JUVENILE BOARD. 
          AND THEN THE RELATED CHANGE OF THE TRANSFER. 
          UM, AND IF THE JUDGE HAS ANY COMMENTS OR, UM, QUESTIONS, I WOULD HAVE IT DIRECTED TO HIM. 
          SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN READING THIS, BUT FOR JUVENILE PROBATION, THEY'RE REQUESTING, OR ARE WE WE'RE BEING GIVEN A BUDGET FROM THE JUVENILE BOARD THAT WAS $749,494 MORE THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY JUSTIFICATION OR DETAILS? I BELIEVE THE JUDGE HAS SOME INFORMATION RELATED, UM, TO THOSE CHANGES AND WHAT THEY'RE RELATED TO. 
          WELL, AND THIS IS, I'M I I'M, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ASSUMPTION HERE THAT THIS IS ON A REQUEST THAT I'VE, YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A PACKET ON A REQUEST. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE IS ON THE JUVENILE PROBATION SIDE OF IT, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE, UM, FUNDING IS. 
          BUT SPECIFIC TO, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A, UH, OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE IS SOME LAND THAT IS, OR A BUILDING THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THIS. 
          AND IT WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN DEPTH IN, UH, OUR MEETING JUST LAST FRIDAY. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW THE SITUATION IN THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE OCCUPYING. 
          UH, IT DOES SEVERAL THINGS. 
          ONE, IT CREATES AND HAS CREATED A SITUATION FROM A HEALTH STANDPOINT, BUT IT ALSO, UM, THERE'S THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT BUILDING IS DECLINING AT A RAPID RATE, UM, TO WHERE THEY CANNOT GO IN AND DO ANYTHING TO DISTURB. 
          AND THAT'S CREATING A MAJOR PROBLEM. 
          UM, ALSO FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE ABILITY FOR THAT DEPARTMENT TO GROW, UH, BECAUSE WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING CORRESPONDINGLY, THAT THAT GROWTH IS ALSO IMPACTING THE, UH, JUVENILE PROBATION, UH, GROUP. 
          AND SO, UH, THEY HAVE FOUND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUILDING AND THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          I'VE ALSO GOTTEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HERE. 
          UM, I CAN ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT ON THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY BOTH FOR THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, UH, TO, TO ACQUIRE THAT BUILDING, UM, THAT IS ON SANTA FE AND TO, UH, MAKE THAT, MOVE INTO THAT. 
          UM, BUT ALSO IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW ROOM FOR THE JUDGE, A EP, UH, TO TAKE THAT POSSESSION THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE, UM, THE SENATOR CAN'T TALK HERE FOR THE, UM, THE RENTAL OF THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE USING. 
          EXCUSE ME, IN WILL PARK. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THAT. 
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SO THIS, THIS NEW PROPERTY IS TO LEASE? NO, IT'S TO ACQUIRE IT. 
          IT, UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PRICE ON THAT, UM, THAT'S NOT THE INCREASE IS NOT THE PURCHASE. 
          IT'S NOT FOR THE PURCHASE. 
          THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN PROVIDED. 
          BUT WHAT IS  THREE? 3.1. 
          3.1. 
          JUST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE OPERATIONAL COST? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WANTED TO TRY TO HIT BOTH IF I COULD. 
          UM, BUT ON THE 7 49, YES, THAT IS THE OPERATIONAL COST THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED, UH, ON THE GROWTH OF THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT ALSO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND USE THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GONNA ADDRESS THIS IN CAP AND NON CAP, BUT I DO WANNA BRING THIS UP, UM, THAT WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL ON THE NEED FOR THIS, UM, THAT IT WOULD SOLVE SEVERAL ISSUES FOR US. 
          BUT, UM, THE TWO POINT, THE $749,494 IS BASICALLY JUST AN INCREASE IN WHAT THE OPERATIONAL COST IS ALONE FOR THE SPECIFICS OF THIS RIGHT HERE. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE GRANT REQUESTS THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE THAT MIGHT COME, I SAW THAT SOMEWHERE PREVIOUSLY OR IS THIS JUST, THIS IS JUST MORE PEOPLE, OR I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          ARE THEY THE ONLY ONE IN THAT RENTAL BUILDING OUT THERE? IT IS, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE LITERATURE THAT I HAVE IS ALL ABOUT A LEASE AND LEASE RATES AND TRIPLE NET. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WHAT THE, I GUESS IT, IT COULD BE PURCHASED ALSO. 
          IT, IT CAN BE OKAY FOR 3.1. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ALSO A BREAKDOWN HERE ON THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT TOTAL OUT WITH THE 749,000 4 94. 
          BUT AGAIN, UM, I THINK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE DETAIL OF THIS, PROBABLY HAVE ASHLEY COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          UM, JUDGE, DO WE HAVE, HAVE WE BEEN PROVIDED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS AND THEN THIS PACKET? 'CAUSE I WE'RE NOT SEEING IT HERE IN OUR, OUR INFORMATION BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STUFF YOU'RE REFERENCING, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD TO US THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS WHAT YOU HAVE. 
          GET RID OF THAT. 
          AND IT'S, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 3 MILLION BUCKS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          NO, I, I, I AGREE. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET MORE DETAILS, UH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT READY TODAY TO APPROVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT A LOT MORE DETAILS. 
          IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS. 
          WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE MAKING COPIES FOR US? YES, I HAVE IT. 
          LIKE A SUMMARY OF IT ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECKY. 
          HAVE THEY TALKED TO YOU ANY AT ALL ABOUT THE, UM, INSURANCE AND ESCROW TAXES, ANY OF THAT ON THE 47,000 ON THE TRIPLE NET EXPENSES? DO YOU WANT ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? OKAY, THE PROPERTY. 
          YEAH, PROPERTY. 
          THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER OF 25,001 TIME EXPENSE MOORING, USA, UH, THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THERE. 
          I TH I THINK AG AGAIN, SO IN THE DEPTH IN GOING INTO MORE DETAIL, COMMISSIONER HOLT, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO HAVE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL, UH, THE SPECIFICS. 
          'CAUSE I WAS NOT BROUGHT INTO THE, INTO THE LOOP ON WHAT EXACTLY EVERY PENNY OF THAT DOES. 
          AND I'M, I'M, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO SURE ADDRESS THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IF WE CAN MAYBE DELAY THE DECISION ON THIS TO A, TO ANOTHER DAY, WELL GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND BEFORE WE DO THAT 
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AGAIN, UH, JUST TO UNDERSTAND THIS, UH, ON THE 749,494, I THINK, I THINK REALLY ASHLEY NEEDS TO BE, UM, EITHER THROUGH A, A MEETING AND, AND GETTING MORE DATA AND DETAIL AND SPECIFICS OR HAVE HER COME AND, AND SO YES, I, I AGREE. 
          WE NEED TO PROBABLY DEFER THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE ON, I, I JUST GOT THIS MYSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED AT THE BOARD MEETING WHEN SHE WENT THROUGH EACH LINE ITEM WITH THE BOARD. 
          SO SEVEN 15 IS FOR THE NEW SPACE AND 35,000 TO MAKE THAT TOTAL INCREASE OF THE SEVEN 50 IS ROLLOUT ROLLOVER ITEMS FOR A HEALTH STORM DAMAGE TO THEIR VEHICLE. 
          SO IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THOSE AUTO REPAIR WILL HAVE TO BE ROLLED OVER. 
          AND SO SINCE THEIR BUDGET STARTS SEPTEMBER ONE, IT HAS TO BE. 
          BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BUDGET THAT THE BOARD YOU APPROVED LAST WEEK, JUDGE, WHO ALL IS ON THAT BOARD? THE TWO COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES, THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES AND MYSELF. 
          UH, THIS, THIS BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED LAST WEEK, UH, THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS A LOT MORE DETAIL DISCUSSED ON THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF HERE, BUT EACH LINE ITEM IN THAT BUDGET, UM, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S ALSO A MOORING EXPENSE HERE. 
          A ONE TIME EXPENSE OF 450,000, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL ALSO. 
          SO, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME, A DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THE COMBINATION INTO ONE BUILDING OF THE JUVENILE PROBATION AND THE J-J-A-E-P. 
          ARE THERE ANY COST SAVINGS THAT ARE EXPECTED WITH, LIKE, SECURITY MEASURES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, THERE IS, THERE, THERE'S, UM, WHEN YOU SAY SECURITY MEASURES, UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THAT MUCH IN IN DEPTH OF THAT, BUT I THINK MORE IN CONSOLIDATION OF THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS INTO THAT, UH, FOR THAT IT TAKES AWAY THE, UH, SEVERAL ISSUES. 
          ONE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ONE BUILDING. 
          THEN ALSO THE RENTAL SPACE OF THE SPACE THAT WE'RE OCCUPYING AND, AND RURAL PARK, UH, IT DOES ALLOW US ROOM FOR GROWTH FOR ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTS POSSIBLY TO GO INTO THAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT ONLY UTILIZES A PORTION OF THAT BUILDING AND THAT THAT IS A, UH, FOR, FOR GOOD SPACE. 
          I KNOW WE CAN GET TAGGED WITH BUYING USED BUILDINGS, BUT THAT BUILDING DOES REALLY FIT A NEED AND NEEDS REALLY SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT BUILDING. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER GOES ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE BUDGET THAT THEY ADOPTED, AGAIN, UH, BRIANNA, I KNOW WE, WE ADOPTED THAT OR, OR THEY DID. 
          WE DID, BUT I, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE EXPLANATION ON SOME OF THIS THAT I CAN'T GIVE ON THAT, JUST TO BE QUITE FRANK. 
          I'M JUST BEING HONEST. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET MORE DETAIL ON THAT TO BRING IT BACK. 
          SO I DO, I SECOND THAT ON THE, UH, UM, DELAYING OF THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET MORE DETAIL ON SPECIFICS OF THAT 749,000 AS FAR AS THE OTHER PART OF THIS GOES ON THE BUILDING, I THINK THIS NEEDS SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO BE LOOKED AT, WHICH IS A SEPARATE, WELL, IT IS AND IT ISN'T, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY DISCUSSED PRETTY THOROUGHLY ON THAT. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE THAT IN ANOTHER TIME THAT WE CAN COVER BOTH. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING THE BUILDING? YES. 
          FOR $3.4 MILLION. 
          THAT'S 3.1, BUT YES, IT SAYS 3.4 ON HERE. 
          IT WAS 3.1, BUT YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH, THAT DOES FIT A NEED FOR THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY LISTED AT THROUGH THE REALTY COMPANY. 
          BUT THE REALTOR DID SAY THAT THE SELLER IS EXTREMELY MOTIVATED AND WE'LL CONSIDER OFFERS. 
          SO EXTREMELY MOTIVATED, EXTREMELY MOTIVATED. 
          BUT THERE'S CURRENT TENANT, THERE ARE CURRENT TENANTS AND, UM, THOSE LEASES, UM, IF ONE IS UP NEXT SPRING, THE OTHER TWO ARE UP IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN 2027. 
          AND SO THAT COULD, UM, PROVIDE SOME REVENUE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSE FOR THE LEASE OR PURCHASE. 
          OR IF WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD GET, WE WOULD BE THE LEASE SAW ON THOSE. 
          UM, THERE'S THE ABILITY TO HAVE, IF, IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE THAT BUILDING AND OTHER OFFICES BESIDES JUVENILE COULD BE LOCATED THERE, THERE'S THE ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE JUVENILE PERSONNEL AND PROBATIONERS TO COME IN THE BACK WHERE THERE'S NO CROSS, UM, CROSSING OF PATH CROSSING PATHS, UH, WITH THOSE KIDS. 
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SO IT DOES, IF WE WERE TO LEASE IT, THE SPACE HAS A 4%, UM, INCREMENT EACH YEAR ON THE LEASE. 
          THERE'S A A, THERE'S A, A TABLE THERE. 
          I KNOW IT'S TINY, TINY, TINY. 
          I COULDN'T GET IT. 
          SO I I WAS LOOKING AT THAT TINY ONE THERE. 
          IT, IT, I THINK IT SAYS, UH, THAT WE'RE PAYING ABOUT $75,000 PER YEAR IN RENT FOR THE PLACE OVER THERE WHERE THE J-J-A-E-P IS CURRENTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WITH UTILITIES IT'S $85,000 A YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY NO LONGER EXIST. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF THAT BUILDING SINCE THE DAY I BECOME COMMISSIONER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S WHY WE BUILT AN EAST ANNEX . 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE STILL HAVE THE BUILDING ALSO TOO, WITH THIS, UM, KIM, HOW MUCH OF THAT, UH, PERCENTAGE WISE OF THAT BUILDING WOULD THE JUDGE A P OCCUPY AND ALSO THE JUVENILE PROBATION? IS IT ABOUT 50%? THE JJ NOT NOW. 
          J-J-A-E-P PLUS A JUVENILE WOULD NEED ABOUT 7,800 SQUARE FOOT. 
          THE BUILDING IS A TOTAL OF AROUND A LITTLE LESS THAN 15,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR ALL IN THAT INCLUDES THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEASED AS WELL. 
          SO THAT WOULDN'T NET OUT ADDITIONAL SPACE TO US. 
          OF HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOT DID YOU THINK? WELL, CURRENT FOR CURRENTLY WOULD BE ABOUT THE 7,800 SQUARE FOOT, BUT ONCE THE OWNERS MOVE OUT, IT'S ABOUT 7,000 MORE. 
          YES. 
          IT'S 15,000 TOTAL. 
          YES, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN THEY MOVE AND THE TOTAL AVAILABILITY WOULD BE ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT ALSO COMES WITH THREE ACRES OF PROPERTY AND A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT. 
          UM, AND WELL, HOW OLD IS THAT BUILDING? IT'S ONLY 25 YEARS OLD. 
          IT'S NOT THAT OLD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ANNEX. 
          WHAT WAS THE, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ELECTIONS BUILDING AS IT IS NOW? THE OLD POLICE STATION? I THINK IT'S 18,000 SQUARE FOOT THAT'S ON THE RIGHT MARK. 
          UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ACTUALLY PURCHASING A BUILDING, MAYBE WE CAN ENGAGE SOMEONE WHO CAN DO A SEARCH OF ALL OF THE LOCAL PROPERTIES TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT EVEN BE A BETTER FIT THAN THIS. 
          WELL, I KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING. 
          I LOOKING AT PROPERTIES ALL OVER THE WEATHERFORD FOR THIS AND YEAH, I HAVE, YOU HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL 'CAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WITH CONSIDERING THE CLIENTELE SURE. 
          ON WHERE THEY'RE WANTED OR NOT WANTED, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A PROBLEM WITH LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES. 
          WELL, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO, THAT, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. 
          AND, UH, UM, JUST KIND OF WHAT KIM JUST SAID, UH, THE FIT OF WHERE THIS WOULD BE WHILE THERE'S AVAILABLE SPACES OUT THERE, UM, NOT EVERY SPACE IS OPTIMAL TO THE NEED THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT SPACE. 
          UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BE ON THE MARKET THAT LONG. 
          I THINK IT'S A, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE MO THE BUYER IS VERY MOTIVATED AND THEY'RE GONNA SELL THAT PROPERTY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, UH, TO, UH, LOOK AT, I'M NOT SAYING LET'S MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW AND, AND DO THAT. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          UM, AS WE FINALIZE OUR BUDGET HERE, IT APPEARS THEY HAVE IT PRICED. 
          IF IT WAS AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPANCY, WHICH IT'S NOT AT THE RANGE OF 20 FOOT TRIPLE NET, THE SALES PRICE DISCOUNTED A LITTLE BITS AT THE NINE CAP RATE. 
          AND I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN FIND THOSE ALL DAY LONG. 
          RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S PRICE AGGRESSIVE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S OVERLY PRICED WHEN IT'S 40 SOMETHING PERCENT VACANT, IN MY OPINION. 
          I, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS, UH, SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE, UH, WISH WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT THAT SOONER IN THE BUDGETARY PROCESS. 
          ME TOO. 
          RATHER THAN TODAY. 
          ME TOO. 
          BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT TENDS TO BRING UP ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE GO UNANSWERED. 
          WELL, AND I THINK THAT IT WAS JUST BROUGHT UP NOW BECAUSE IT JUST WENT ON THE MARKET RECENTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M IN A VERY AWKWARD SALE SPOT HERE. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS WAS JUST PUT, I'M ON THE BOARD. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          I REPRESENT THE BOARD. 
          I TRY TO KEEP THE COURT YEAH. 
          UH, UP TO DATE WITH EVERYTHING. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW. 
          SURE. 
          AND I JUST GOT THIS, SO, 
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UM, I'M JUST PUTTING IT TO Y'ALL AS, AS TO, AS A BODY OF THE COURT, UH, FOR CONSIDERATIONS. 
          WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, OTHER OFFICERS OF THE, UM, JUVENILE BOARD TO COME AND DISCUSS THIS AS WELL BEFORE WE MAKE ANY FINAL DECISION ON THIS, AS WELL AS THE 749,000 BUDGET THAT WE ADOPTED. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY ALL WE NEED TO SAY ABOUT THAT NEXT ITEM. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          ON 
          [I.C. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen)]
ITEM C, ON CAP AND NON CAP, IF WE CAN, WE CAN GO TO THAT KINDA WORK OUR WAY BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, KIM. 
          SO I PROVIDED, UM, THE SUMMARY SHEET AGAIN FOR YOU ALL AND THERE'S A CHANGE ON IT THAT HASN'T BEEN ON THERE BEFORE. 
          I ADDED A, A LINE FOR THE CAP, NON CAP ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAD, UM, REQUESTED BE PUT UNDER PROGRAM CONTINGENCIES. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THE FIRE MARSHAL REQUESTS, UM, THE $500,000 WORTH OF CONTINGENCY FOR RADIO TOWERS, UM, EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH. 
          PLUS THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM THAT, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED, UM, IF THERE IS A MATCHED PRINT. 
          SO OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S A FEW ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAD REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION ON. 
          UM, LAST WEEK WE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT THE A PX RADIO. 
          WHICH SHEET ARE WE ON NOW? OH, WE'RE ON THE CAP, NON CAP. 
          THE BIG LONG BIG ONE. 
          THE BIG SHEET? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          STAPLE THREE PAGES. 
          SO EOC HAD RECCO FOR THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. 
          THERE WAS DISCUSSION LAST WEEK ABOUT THE A PX 8,500 RADIO AND WHETHER OR NOT THE EXISTING RADIO WAS PURCHASED WITH A GRANT. 
          AND, UM, JASON REPORTED THAT THAT WAS NOT PURCHASED WITH A GRANT SO IT COULD STAY WITH THE VEHICLE TO WHEREVER IT GOES. 
          SO HE WILL NEED A RADIO FOR WHATEVER VEHICLE HE GETS. 
          AN AMOUNT OF 8357 50 $8. 
          MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHEREVER THE RADIO, WHEREVER THE RADIO WINDS UP, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ONE THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. 
          HEY JOE, I SEE YOU SITTING BACK HERE AT THE BACK. 
          JASON'S SITTING OVER HERE. 
          THE RADIO'S GOING WITH THE VEHICLE. 
          WHOEVER GETS THE VEHICLE, WOULD THEY NOT HAVE THE RADIO THEN TO GIVE? JUST ASKING. 
          WE, WE WOULD USE OUR HANDHELD RADIO. 
          SO I MEAN WE COULD HAVE THE RADIO. 
          I THINK YOU AND THREE ARE THE ONES ASKING FOR IT. 
          I I UNLESS THEY NEED AN ADDITIONAL RADIO, THEN WE HAVE AN EXTRA RADIO. 
          THAT CORRECT? BRETT, MA'AM. 
          SO IF, IF YOU WERE THE ONE WHO WAS SELECTED TO GET THE VEHICLE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN EXTRA RADIO TO GIVE PROBABLY IF YOU HIS UNIT. 
          YEAH. 
          HE HAS TWO RADIOS IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          HE HAS ONE IN THE BACK IN THE COMMAND AND THEN ONE UP IN THE CONSOLE. 
          UH, WE WOULD, I'M REQUESTING TWO RADIOS. 
          I WOULD USE THAT RADIO AND THEN THE ONE IN THE BACK TO REPLACE ONE OF MY RADIOS. 
          I WOULDN'T NEED ANY MORE RADIOS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF I HAD THAT UNIT, 'CAUSE I GOT THE FRANKEN TAHOE, THE THREE TAHOE, TAHOE, I FE TOGETHER THREE TAHOES TO MAKE ONE TAHOE AND IT'S IN THE SHOP. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO COME OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT DOES THAT LEAVE THOSE FORM? NO. 
          YEAH. 
          NOT IF IT GOES THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF IT GOES OVER HERE, IT DOES. 
          I GUESS WE CAN FLIP A COIN LATER ON THAT, SEE WHERE IT GOES. 
          BUT, BUT WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES WHERE THERE'S EITHER NEED A RADIO OR NOT NEED A RADIO. 
          SO I'LL BE FOR THIS MOTION ON THE TABLE IF IT'S NEEDED. 
          HOW'S THAT? IS THAT FAIR? YEAH. 
          IF, IF IT'S NEEDED. 
          YEAH, I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE IDEA THAT IT'S ONLY UPON BEING NEEDED. 
          COMMISSIONER, WILL YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION, PLEASE? MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST SUBJECT TO, THERE IS NOT AN AVAILABLE RADIO THAT CAN BE EXCHANGED BACKWARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT MOTION. 
          AND THE SECOND IS BY COMMISSIONER. 
          HA. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          GARY'S ABOVE VOTE. 
          I KNOW IT SOUNDS SMALL TO BE SMALL ITEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE RIGHT HERE, WE BETTER BE LOOKING AT SMALL ITEMS. 
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OKAY. 
          CONTINUING ON. 
          UM, I'D REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION FROM CCL TWO ABOUT THE METAL DETECTOR WAND. 
          UM, I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE HERE TODAY, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. 
          SO WE'LL SKIP DOWN TO, UM, THE DESK FOR JP THREE. 
          THOSE DESK WOULD BE FOR THE, THE NEW AREA THAT YOU ALL APPROVED RENOVATIONS FOR. 
          UM, SO IT'S TWO DECKS DESKS AT $2,000 A PIECE. 
          THOSE DESKS ARE, UM, $2,000 BECAUSE THEY'LL LAST, THEY'RE BUILT LIKE WHAT THE ONES THE REST OF THE ANNEX HAS IN, IN THE PREVIOUS, BEFORE THE FLOOD. 
          THE DESKS THAT WE HAVE ARE EXACTLY LIKE, AND WE'VE HAD 'EM FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS AND THEY WOULD'VE LASTED ANOTHER 20 YEARS IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THE FLOOD. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO PAY A LITTLE MORE QUALITY. 
          WE'RE ON JP THREE. 
          JP THREE. 
          YES SIR. 
          IT'S THE TWO DESKS. 
          AND SO THESE ARE JUST TWO ADDITIONAL DESKS THAT ARE, THAT FALL INTO THAT. 
          THAT, AND WE, WE APPROVED THE YES SIR. 
          THE RENOVATION THERE AND THE EXPANSION. 
          YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER A ALT, I'M SORRY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE? FIVE VOTE. 
          SO MOVING DOWN, WE HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          JAMIE, DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PARTITION OR, OR YOU ORDERED THOSE IN THE SCANNERS? CAN WE BACK UP? I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THE, THE THING THAT I'M WONDERING IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ASKING FOR DESKS AND THEY'RE 500 AND WE LOOK AT OTHERS, THEY'RE TWO OR THREE . 
          AND I, I I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT $500 DESK IS GONNA LAST VERY LONG AND IN A COUPLE OF YEARS THEY'LL BE BACK ASKING FOR ANOTHER $500 PER DESK. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          WE GOT A VERY CHEAP DESK AND THAT, THAT WON'T LAST FOREVER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          FOR THE RECORD, I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          I MEAN, CAN I LIKE, ARE, ARE WE NEED TO BE A STANDARD. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          ARE WE, I'M SAYING I DON'T UNDERSTAND QUALITY VALUE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST SAYING IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME BACKUP UP HERE FOR US TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH. 
          ARE WE WEIGHTLIFTING ON THESE DESKS? LIKE WHY AREN'T THEY LASTING VERY LONG? BECAUSE IT'S THE, THAT PARTICLE BOARD THAT'S QUALITY MATERIAL, IT'S THINNER QUALITY THAN THE SOME, I MEAN, THESE MORE EXPENSIVE DESKS ARE ALSO PRESSED WOOD, BUT IT'S THICKER AND IT'S NOT JUST THE FLIMSY WALMART DESK. 
          WELL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD OF QUALITY YET VERSUS YOU'RE FACED WITH A SITUATION HERE IS, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT YOU CAN'T, HOW DO WE EVALUATE WHAT ONE DEPARTMENT THEN HAS A, A VERY HIGH QUALITY DESK THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT'S ORDERING SOMETHING, A PARTICLE BOARD. 
          THERE'S IT, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HALE MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT WITH THIS, IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME FORM OF STANDARD HERE THAT WE CAN GO BY. 
          UH, THERE ISN'T ONE. 
          WE'RE JUST SITTING HERE RANDOMLY APPROVING THESE EVERY TIME. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I THINK THAT STANDARD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDS TO APPLY IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL. 
          I AGREE. 
          UH, NOT JUST, NOT JUST HERE. 
          THAT THE REASON I MADE THAT MOTION IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE DESKS WERE SIMILAR TO THE ONES WHO THAT WE HAVE PAID FOR IN THE PAST FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THAT BUILDING. 
          UH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED A STANDARD FOR SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          TWO VEHICLES BEING ONE OF THEM WHERE WE, WHERE WE COME UP WITH A STANDARD COUNTY VEHICLE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PURCHASE. 
          AND PROBABLY IF YOU COME TO ONE OF THE PRECINCTS, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET THE  YEAH. 
          GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE, WE THINK IS THE STANDARD VEHICLE. 
          CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS, PLEASE? SURE, SURE. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, THE CHAIRS AND FURNITURE. 
          UM, SO I'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE SINCE 2011 AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TRIES TO PINCH PENNIES AND WE'LL BUY A $99 CHAIR AND WE'LL REPLACE IT WITHIN TWO YEARS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE SPENT $300 ON A CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT FOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND IT'S THE SAME WITH THE DESK. 
          I JUST TURNED GREEN BECAUSE I HAD TO ORDER A DESK AND IT WAS ALMOST $3,000. 
          BUT THAT DESK SHOULD LAST OUTLIVE ALL OF US, I HOPE. 
          BUT A LOT OF TIMES, UH, EMPLOYEES, ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE TRY TO GO CHEAP TRYING TO SAVE MONEY AND IT, AND IT DOESN'T WORK OUT WELL. 
          SO, BUT I I AGREE. 
          LET EVERYONE KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BUY A DESK, BUY A GOOD DESK, DON'T BUY THE PARTICLE BOARD DESK AND REPLACE IT IN TWO YEARS. 
          THAT'S MY 2 CENTS 4 CENTS WITH INFLATION. 
          SO YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY SEEMS LIKE I BOUGHT A NICKELS WORTH ME. 
          YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY TO BUY THE $2,000 DESK. 
          I'M TELLING THE 500. 
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MAKE A DECISION. 
          YEAH, AB ABSOLUTELY. 
          I I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER CHEAP DESK. 
          UM, I'VE HAD 'EM FALL APART, UM, LIKE OVER HERE IN THIS OFFICE. 
          THEY, THEY DIDN'T LAST A COUPLE YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU GET, I TRY TO GO. 
          YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE READY TO MOVE ON? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, DISREGARD THE ITEMS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR THE PARTITIONS AND SCANNERS. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE OUT OF FI FISCAL YEAR 25 FUNDS. 
          SO SKIPPING DOWN TO, UM, LET'S SEE, SO YOU'VE GOT THE BUILDING GROUNDS, THE SECOND CHEVY TRAS ON THERE? YES, SIR. 
          AND I, I IT'S STILL ON THERE. 
          I THINK I HEARD THAT, THAT THAT IS, IS IT UP THERE OR IS IT DOWN . 
          SO THEY'RE, YOU'RE NOT, THEY'RE NO LONGER REQUESTED. 
          IT'S JUST STILL ON THE SPREADSHEET. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THEY, THEY'RE HAVE WITHDRAWN THAT REQUEST, CORRECT? YEAH, BOTH THEM. 
          JUST ONE. 
          JUST ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU ALL APPROVED ONE APPROVED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          YEP. 
          SO, UM, ARE WE DISCUSSING DRONES TODAY OR NOT? NO, I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON A REPORT BACK FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE DRONES WE'RE ANTICIPATING MOVING FORWARD ON THAT AFTER THE BUDGET STARTS OUT OF CONTINGENCY. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS WE WANT TO DO PROCEDURALLY FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE, WE HAVE THE 5 52 BOTH, UH, FOR VEHICLE REQUESTS ARE OBVIOUSLY IT'S CONTINGENT UPON WHO GETS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE VEHICLE. 
          UM, AND THEN CONSTABLE THREE, ARE YOU, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHY YOU NEED TWO REPLACEMENT RADIOS? I MEAN, WE GOT, UH, SIX VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET. 
          WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE. 
          Y'ALL GAVE US, UH, TWO LAST YEAR AND THEN WE HAD ONE THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          RIGHT NOW WE GOT A 2018 FRANKEN TAHOE THAT'S IN THE SHOP. 
          PROBABLY AIN'T GONNA COME OUT. 
          UH, WE GOT A 2024 CHEVROLET SILVERADO THAT'S HAVING ELECTRICAL ISSUES. 
          IT'S GOING INTO, UH, JERRY'S CHEVROLET. 
          IT'S SEPTEMBER THE FOURTH AND THEY'RE GONNA LOAN US A VEHICLE TO USE WHILE IT'S IN THERE. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A 2018 CHEVROLET PICKUP THAT IS NOT A POLICE PACKAGED VEHICLE. 
          AND, UH, IT'S UNFIT FOR THE DUTIES THAT WE, WE NEED IT. 
          AND, BUT WE USE IT ALL THE TIME 'CAUSE IT'S OUR ONLY SPARE. 
          WE NEED, UH, ANOTHER SILVERADO PICKUP OUTFITTED PROPERLY AND WE COULD GET RID OF THE 2018 NON-POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLE. 
          UH, GIVE IT TO THE FIRE MARSHAL IF THEY NEED IT. 
          UH, BUT IT'S NOT A POLICE PACKAGE AND WE JUST, WE NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE. 
          I HATE TO HATE TO ASK. 
          I KNOW MONEY'S TIED. 
          I KNOW EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO SAVE WHERE THEY CAN. 
          YOU'VE GOT A COMPLETE INVENTORY OF EVERYTHING PRECINCT THREE HAS AND SHOWS THE VEHICLES OUTFITTING, I THINK ON ABOUT REPLACING THE TWO RADIO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE GOT, UH, I, I GOT A HANDOUT. 
          WE GOT, UH, 3 8500 CAR RADIOS IN OUR UNITS. 
          AND, UH, THE REST OF 'EM ARE 1500. 
          WE'VE BEEN, WE GOT ONE WHEN WE GOT THE FRANKEN TAHOE. 
          IT WAS LEFT IN THE TAHOE. 
          UH, WE GOT TWO ARFA FUNDS LAST YEAR. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE OTHER TWO UNITS UP TO 8,500 RADIOS IN, MOUNTED IN THE CAR. 
          RADIOS, PRECINCT THREE'S A LARGE PRECINCT. 
          AND WE GOT SO MANY DEAD SPOTS DOWN THERE. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. 
          Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE RE THE REASON WE'RE ASKING BRAD, WE DIDN'T HAVE, Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE TO TALK TO. 
          SO THE REASON WE'RE ASKING IS BECAUSE WITH THAT, UH, AMERICAN RESCUE MONEY ROAD, WE WERE, UH, OF THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL RADIOS WERE PURCHASED WITH THAT, THAT WERE NEEDED. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING WHY DO YOU NEED TWO MORE? THAT'S WHAT THE DEAL IS. 
          AND SO DURING THIS PROCESS, WE, WE'VE COME TO LEARN THAT THAT, UH, STILL GONNA BE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET THE TOWER UP AND RUNNING. 
          THAT'S LOCATED AT PRECINCT THREE? YES, SIR. 
          LIKE ANOTHER WHOLE YEAR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO, TO CHANGE OVER AT, AT THAT POINT, ARE YOU GOING TO NEED, UH, ANY, DO YOU FORESEE ANY ADDITIONAL RADIO NEEDS IF WE, UH, FILL THIS REQUEST IN THE NEAR FUTURE? NO, SIR. 
          I DON'T. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ALL, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE HANDHELDS THE 8,000 HANDHELDS WITH THE DOCKER STATION IN OUR UNITS. 
          UHHUH , UH, WE'VE GOT THREE OF THE 85 HUNDREDS AND 
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SIX OF OUR, OUR SIX VEHICLES, WE'VE GOT 3 85 HUNDREDS. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE 85 HUNDREDS ARE, ARE CAR MOUNTED, MOUNTED RADIO THAT DO NOT COME OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF, IF WE GET RID OF A VEHICLE, WE TAKE THE RADIO OUT AND ALL THE WIRING AND EVERYTHING MM-HMM . 
          AND USE IT AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET RID OF THE RADIOS. 
          IF WE GET TWO MORE RADIOS, WE WILL BE, WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR UNITS, WE'LL HAVE CAR, 8,500 RADIOS AS THEY SHOULD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOR OUR OFFICER SAFETY. 
          SO THEN THEY ALL HAVE CAR RADIOS AND PORTABLES? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PORTABLES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE, WITH THE DOCKET STATION, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. 
          IT AIN'T TRUE. 
          GUARANTEE IT. 
          I GOT THOSE IN. 
          I GOT THAT IN MY TO THE FIRST TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          DRIVING DOWN 51 BEFORE YOU GET THE SILVERADO TREE HAD FALLEN IN THE ROAD. 
          I GOT ON MY RADIO, NOTHING, GOT MY HANDHELD OUT, NOTHING. 
          GOT ON MY CELL PHONE, CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, CALLED THE COMMISSIONER, SAID I GOT A TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. 
          I NEED SOME HELP GETTING IT OUT. 
          THOSE DOCKING STATIONS WITH THE PORTABLE, UH, THEY DON'T WORK IN PRECINCT THREE. 
          THEY DON'T WORK FOR, THEY DON'T WORK FOR US. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE STILL AT, WE'RE STILL AT MAKING A DECISION ON WHO'S GONNA GET THIS ADDITIONAL VEHICLE. 
          AND SO SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. 
          I'M TELLING YOU THAT WE'RE PUTTING IT OFF BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND WE'LL, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE THAT VEHICLE'S GOING PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          LIKE IN A, A DAY OR TWO, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT VEHICLE, WE COULD TURN THE 2018 NON-POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLE OVER. 
          AND, UH, JASON LOOKED AT IT BEFORE AND IT'S, IT'S GOOD TRUCK. 
          SURE. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T FIT OUR NEEDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT TAHOE HAS TWO RADIOS. 
          IT HAS A RADIO IN THE COMMAND, IN THE CONSOLE, AND ONE IN THE COMMAND BOX. 
          WE COULD PULL THAT RADIO OUTTA THE COMMAND BOX AND PUT IT IN OUR OTHER, OTHER VEHICLE. 
          AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD ON RADIOS AND VEHICLES. 
          SO WHO'S GONNA MAKE THE DECISION? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISION, BUT WE NEED THE, HAVE Y'ALL SUBMITTED, UH, REQUESTS? HAVE YOU SUBMITTED, JOE? YOU SAID REQUEST? YEAH, I'VE SENT IT TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          WHOEVER. 
          YEAH, I SENT OURS COMMAND KIM, AND WE PASSED THOSE ALONG. 
          WE SAW THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BROKE IT DOWN. 
          SO, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THAT RATHER QUICKLY AND THEN, AND THEN MAKE THE ACCOMPANYING DECISION ON RADIOS AND VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT. 
          REAL QUICK FOLLOW UP. 
          THAT TRUCK YOU'RE HAVING TO SEND TO JERRY'S, WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR MODEL THAT IS? IT'S 2024 SILVERADO 50 24. 
          IS IT A GAS MOTOR? YES, SIR. 
          AND IT'S AN ENGINE ISSUE. 
          IT'S ELECTRICAL ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF IT'S GOING TO BE CHEVY OR DEFENDER. 
          ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE IT IS UNDER WARRANTY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST HOW LONG IS IT GONNA BE DOWN? AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WITHOUT A VEHICLE AND IT'S A CONSTABLE'S TRUCK. 
          UH, COMPLETELY RIGGED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A LOANER. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE GM GAS MOTORS AND SOME RECALLS. 
          YEP. 
          THIS, SO THAT'S WHY I'M WANTING TO KNOW SOME OF THIS DATA BECAUSE AS, AS A COUNTY AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE BUYING DIFFERENT RIGS AND GM PRODUCTS AND WE GOT BRAND NEW VEHICLES SITTING FOR MONTHS AT A DEALERSHIP WAITING ON A MOTOR THAT CAN'T GET YEP. 
          BECAUSE THEY GOT A RECALL PROBLEM. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT AS A COUNTY, COUNTY LEVEL. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE A FOOT PRETTY QUICK. 
          I'M GONNA BE GOING OUT TO YEAH. 
          THE PRECINCT AND SEEING WHAT HE HAS. 
          I CAN DRIVE. 
          WELL, IF YOU WOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION ON THIS STUFF. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. 
          YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST VERY QUICKLY, HOW MUCH MORE YOU GOT THERE, KIM? UM,  WE NEED TO DISCUSS. 
          WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING THE LIKELIHOOD OF TAKING A BREAK IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER HERE. 
          . 
          WHAT IF WE TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTE BREAK, JUDGE, HEY, CAN, CAN WE DISCUSS, UM, AG EXTENSION REAL QUICK SO THEY CAN GET TO WORK? SURE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO KIM HAD ASKED THAT WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE TWO, UM, ITEMS REFERENCING THE COMPUTERS FOR THE EXTENSION OFFICE. 
          WE OPERATE ON A COST SHARE PROGRAM WITH TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY. 
          SO, UM, 
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THE COUNTY COVERS 50% OF THE COST OF COMPUTERS, AND THEN, UM, A AND M COVERS THE REST. 
          UM, UH, IN 2019, I GUESS JUDGE JEAN, WHEN YOU FIRST, WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET HEARINGS, UM, WE WERE OPERATING OFF OF LIKE 10-YEAR-OLD COMPUTERS IN THE EXTENSION OFFICE. 
          AND SO IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE SET UP A ROTATION TO TRY TO PREVENT STAFF FROM OPERATING OFF OF OUTDATED COMPUTERS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IS JUST, UM, WITH THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT'S IN THE OFFICE, WE TYPICALLY TRY TO REQUEST TWO COMPUTERS EACH YEAR. 
          THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY HAS THREE. 
          UM, THERE'S A LAPTOP THAT'S UTILIZED AT, UM, EXTERNAL TRAININGS WHERE WE HAVE TO SCAN IN, UH, PESTICIDE APPLICATORS LICENSES AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UM, THE COST OF THE COMPUTERS ARE ON THE BACK. 
          THE ONES, UH, THERE'S TWO DESKTOPS THAT ARE BEING PUR OR REQUESTED, UM, TO COVER OUR, HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE RIT GUY ABOUT THE COMPUTERS AND YES. 
          YOU GOT THOSE ON YOUR BUDGET OR, SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE ASKING IS BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF MADE A RULE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT ALL COMPUTER PURCHASES HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT, AND THEN, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING YOU TO COME TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          AND THESE COMPUTERS SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO BE PURCHASED OFF OF THE LIST PROVIDED BY A AND M SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL EXTENSION PERSONNEL OPERATING OFF OF A UNIFORM OPERATING SYSTEM. 
          SO THEY COME LOADED WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE RUN, UM, THROUGH EXTENS. 
          THE GUYS ARE PRETTY PICKY. 
          WHAT'S THAT? I SAY THOSE A AND M PEOPLE ARE PRETTY PICKY. 
          THEY ARE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, SO IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH YOUR MACHINE, UH, DOES IT COME AND WORK ON IT? BOTH, ACTUALLY. 
          SO WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY, IT AS WELL AS THE STATE. 
          IT, UM, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY COUNTY PROTECTION WITH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL HARDWARE. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN, UM, ALSO STATE. 
          SO IT, IT KIND OF DEPENDS. 
          MOST OF THE TIME, IF IT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE THOUGH, WE WOULD SEND IT OFF TO THE STATE AND . 
          AND THEY COVER 50% OF YOUR PURCHASE OF THE COMPUTER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO DID I, DID I HEAR THAT IT'S GONNA BE THIS MUCH EVERY YEAR THAT YOU'RE REPLACING TWO EVERY YEAR, OR? WELL, THAT'S JUST THE, THE ROTATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN, THAT'S OUR ROTATION THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE, UM, THAT KEEPS EVERY COMPUTER, THERE'S SIX PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IF WE'RE REQUESTING TWO A YEAR, THAT KEEPS US WITHIN, UM, A SIX YEAR AGE. 
          OKAY. 
          OF COMPUTERS. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, WAIT A SECOND, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE? THREE, SORRY. 
          THREE YOUR AGE? THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WE'RE REQUESTING MORE THAN SIX COMPUTERS. 
          I'M OFF ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, OR, SORRY. 
          SO ON AVERAGE THOUGH, YOU'RE REQUESTING TWO COMPUTERS, TWO COMPUTERS A YEAR, THE IDEA THAT THE COMPUTERS NOT GET OLDER THAN THREE YEARS? CORRECT. 
          THIS YEAR WE HAVE THREE ON THE LIST BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE. 
          WE'RE BASICALLY OPERATING SEVEN COMPUTERS. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS USED FOR EXTERNAL USE WHENEVER WE'RE SCANNING PESTICIDE APPLICATOR LICENSES, UH, WHEN WE GET CEUS AT SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES. 
          AND THE USE FOR, UM, TWO OF THESE ARE OUR DESKTOP. 
          ONE OF THEM IS A LAPTOP. 
          UM, SO THIS YEAR WE HAVE A BIGGER ASK THAN NORMAL YEARS. 
          NORMAL YEARS WE GONNA BE TWO, TWO COMPUTERS, AND THE TWO DESKTOPS BEING REPLACED ARE FIVE YEARS OF AGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JAMES. 
          DO WE HAVE A COUNTY INTERNAL PROTOCOL ON HOW OFTEN YOU WANT COUNTY COMPUTERS REPLACED? YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S PRETTY IN LINE. 
          WE WORK WITH THE ON THAT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY, WE'RE IN CONJUNCTION WORKING TOGETHER AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM, UH, GETTING THIS DONE. 
          BUT LIKE, I, SO I THINK THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE HAD WAS ON THE CONTAINER, THE STORAGE CONTAINER. 
          WE WEREN'T QUESTIONING THE NEED. 
          WE'RE JUST ASKING IF IT WAS PERMISSIBLE TO SET IT THERE. 
          WE KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ONE ACROSS THE LEFT YARD OVER THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THE CITY WOULD ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR OR NOT THROUGH. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT EVERYBODY'S WONDERING. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S WHY LAST YEAR WE REQUESTED THE CONEX SIMPLY BECAUSE JUVENILE PROBATION HAS A SHIPPING CONTAINER OUT THERE AS WELL THAT'S MORE COST EFFICIENT, UM, AND HONESTLY MORE SECURE AND WILL LAST THE LONGEST. 
          COMMISSIONER WALDEN, YOU HAD REQUESTED THAT WE CHECK WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR PERMANENT STORAGE. 
          WE DID NOT CHECK LAST YEAR. 
          UM, WE DID NOT GET OUR REQUEST OF THE CONTAINER. 
          SO THIS YEAR WE MADE A 
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TELEPHONE CALL TO THE CITY NOT REALLY KNOWING WHO TO CALL OTHER THAN THE PERMITTING OFFICE. 
          IT WAS TOLD FIRST THAT YES, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED. 
          BUT THEN WHEN WE WERE PRESENTING IT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE ASKED FOR THAT IN WRITING AND THEN CAME BACK ON. 
          WELL, IT'S CONSIDERED TEMPORARY STORAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THEN FOLLOWED UP, UH, PHONE CALL WITH KIM WHO SAID, WOULD Y ALLALL BE WILLING TO HAVE A CONEX VERSUS THE BUILDING THAT WE LOOKED AT AT LOWE'S OR WHAT, WHEREVER IT WAS PROPOSED. 
          AND THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY, WE WANT THE SHIPPING CONTAINER. 
          WE WOULD LOVE THE SHIPPING CONTAINER, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET SOMETHING AND WELL HAVE TO ABOUT LOADING IT LATER. 
          WHAT I BROUGHT UP WITH WAS THAT IT'S PERMISSIBLE, I THINK, FOR US TO, TO LOCATE ONE MAYBE ON BETHEL ROAD. 
          I I KNOW THE DISTANCE. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          HOWEVER, WE HAD SOMEBODY SITTING BACK THERE AGAINST THE BACK WALL THAT HAD TRIED TO GET ONE NEAR THEIR OFFICE UP HERE CLOSER, AND WERE TOLD NO. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING THAT QUESTION. 
          WE KNOW YOU NEED THE STORAGE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY ONE AND MOVE IT LATER AGAIN. 
          SO SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE CALLING ME, AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A CALL YET FROM THEM. 
          UM, THE BETHEL LOCATION, Y'ALL COME IN LATE AT NIGHT OR LEAVE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THAT, THAT AREA'S LOCKED. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THEY COULD PROVIDE, I JUST TRIED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHERE WE COULD HAVE A PLACE TO STORE THE STUFF WHEN, WHEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN IT WAS NEEDED. 
          BUT, AND I KNOW IT'S INCONVENIENT, BUT, UH, THERE ARE MATERIALS IN THE STORAGE THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE NICE TO JUST BE ABLE TO REMAIN IN OUR PARKING LOT AND WALK AND GET, UM, THE EQUIPMENT AS FAR AS THE LIVESTOCK EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S NOT USED AS OFTEN. 
          HOWEVER, AS KIM MENTIONED, DEPENDING ON WHEN I SECURE A TRAILER, WE MAY BE LOADING A TRAILER AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING OR AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          SO IT JUST, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHEREVER, UM, THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE YARD. 
          THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A ANSWER BACK THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT IT THERE. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE BEST SOLUTION, I THINK, FOR EVERYBODY. 
          BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO SET IT THERE AND HAVE TO MOVE IT LATER. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M COMING AROUND TO. 
          THE CITY HAS GIVEN US PERMISSION TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I ASKED LAST WEEK ABOUT THE, THEY SAID NO. 
          YEAH. 
          LET US VERIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT. 
          IT'S NOT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT THE, THE CONTAINER WE WANT IT TO BE IN THE BEST PLACE IT CAN BE FOR USE, BUT A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE IT IN THREE MONTHS OR WHATEVER, SO. 
          SURE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          BUT I, I, AS FAR AS THE, AS FAR AS THE PURCHASE OF THE, THE ACTUAL CONTAINER, THAT'S NOT A, NOT AN ISSUE FOR, FOR ME. 
          UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE, UH, PURCHASE THE, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, THE COMPUTER AND THE, UH, SHIPPING CONTAINER COMPUTERS AS REQUESTED, AND THE SHIPPING CONTAINER AT THIS POINT, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BA. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES FIVE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND IF, UH, KIM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A RECESS. 
          UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW, WE'RE GONNA RECESS AT 10 20. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT 10 37. 
          OKAY. 
          RUSTY, UM, WITH PERMITTING AND  ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOFTWARE FOR PLATTING AND PERMITTING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, IT'S A SOFTWARE PROGRAM. 
          IT'S CALLED THE GOV BILL. 
          IT WILL GIVE US A PLATFORM THAT WILL INTEGRATE PERMITTING, PLATTING, AND POTENTIALLY THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE COUNTY BARNS, WHERE WE'RE ALL ON A PLATFORM FOR VARIOUS PERMITTING. 
          UH, OURS WILL BE SEPTIC AND FLOODPLAIN. 
          THEN OBVIOUSLY JAMIE WILL DO THE PLATTING. 
          THE COUNTY BARNES COULD ALSO UTILIZE IT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND FOR PERMITTING CULVERTS, AND CAN SEE THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BEEN BONDED THROUGH HER. 
          AND, UH, AND THE FIRE MARSHAL CURRENTLY HAS NO SOFTWARE, AND HE'S ASKING US, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO I DO FOR VARIOUS PERMITTING WITH THIS, THIS SOFTWARE, WE COULD BRING HIM IN AND GIVE HIM A PERMITTING SOFTWARE ALSO. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A COUNTYWIDE SOFTWARE PERMITTING FOR WHAT? FIRE MARSHAL PERMITTING? YES. 
          SPRING SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S THAT SOFTWARE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, YOUR HONOR, ABOUT, I WAS JUST ASKING WHAT THE PERMITTING WAS. 
          UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OVER A CERTAIN SIZE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CAN 
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YOU, HE CAN TELL NO, I GOT IT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          YEAH, THEY, YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE REALLY NEAT THINGS WITH THIS, IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT BIG LOAN, DRAWN OUT THE SECOND PAGE OF THIS STUFF. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONE OF THE, RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF TRACK PLATS IS BY NAME, AND WE JUST HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT WE KEEP UP WITH AFTER THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          ONE OF THE NEAT, UM, FEATURES THAT THIS SOFTWARE HAS IS THE DEVELOPERS WILL ACTUALLY LOAD UP THEIR PLANS DIRECTLY TO THE SITE. 
          UH, IT TAKES PAYMENTS, IT UPDATES ANY CHANGES. 
          SO ONCE WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT OR WE DO REVIEWS AND WE KICK THINGS BACK, THEY CAN LOAD EVERYTHING BACK. 
          CAN YOU TALK IN THE MICROPHONE? OH, SORRY. 
          THEY CAN LOAD EVERYTHING BACK UP INTO THAT SITE. 
          WE CAN SEE THE PROGRESS THAT THEY'VE MADE. 
          UM, THEY ALSO, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTEGRATE WITH ESRI, SO WE CAN HAVE SHAPE FILES. 
          SO YOU, AT THE BARN, YOU CAN LOG IN AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT SUBDIVISION, EVEN IF IT'S NOT BUILT OUT YET, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THAT LOCATION IS AND WHAT'S GONNA BE GOING ON IN THAT AREA. 
          WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, I THINK I WAS JUST LOOKING AT EMAILS. 
          I HAD AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW, SEVEN EMAILS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SAYING, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE? WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? THIS WOULD ALLOW EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO LOG IN AT ANY TIME AND SEE WHERE A PROJECT IS IN THE PROCESS. 
          I, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD, AND SOMEBODY MAY HAVE ANSWERED THAT, THAT THE, OF THE $61,380, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE SET UP FEE OR WHATEVER? AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS A RECURRING FEE? EVERY YEAR? IT'S, Y'ALL HAVE REP, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          YEAH, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          Y'ALL, Y'ALL WOULD COME ON UP. 
          YEAH. 
          TALK ABOUT GOOD MORNING, JODY BENNETT AND ALLISON BIDDY WITH, UH, MCCI. 
          MORNING. 
          ADJUST THE MICROPHONE. 
          UH, WE JUST HAD AN EXTREMELY SHORT PERSON USING IT. 
          . 
          WOW. 
          THE, THE REIN REOCCURRING VALUE OF A SUBSCRIPTION IS $34,670. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE REMAINING IS THE SETUP FEE. 
          I THINK ANOTHER ONE, THE QUESTIONS WAS ON THE OWNERSHIP OF THE DATA OR HOW THAT IS, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE TERMINATED THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU, YOU WOULD, UH, WE WOULD, UH, UH, TERMINATE THE SUBSCRIPTION, BUT GIVE YOU 30 DAYS TO GET YOUR DATA OFF, ASSIST YOU WITH IT IF YOU NEEDED TO. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE TO ASK, IS THERE ANY OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT? ANY ASK ME ABOUT ANYTHING? I'M . 
          I'M GLAD TO ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          LET'S SEE IF SHE'LL ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. 
          . 
          THAT'S FUNNY. 
          NOW THIS IS A GUY CAUGHT USING CHAT. 
          GPT. 
          SORRY. 
          WHAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE IS, IS SO SOMETIMES WE SAY, YEAH, WE WANT TO BUY THIS CAR. 
          AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, DO YOU WANT THE WHEELS THAT GO WITH IT OR NOT? YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, I GUESS WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING THE WHOLE CAR. 
          YOU'RE GETTING THE WHOLE CAR. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS A FIXED FEE PROPOSAL. 
          UHHUH . 
          UH, IF THE COUNTY DOES HAVE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, IT WOULD, WE WOULD DISCUSS THE CHANGE ORDER, BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE THE CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO, WHO ARE SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES, LIKE YOUR EXPERIENCE OR RESUME WITH THIS PRODUCT? SO, UH, WITH THIS PRODUCT, UH, WE ACQUIRED THIS COMPANY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 
          IT HAD, UH, ORIGINALLY FOUNDED FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          BUT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, MCCI IS A LITTLE OVER 25 YEAR, OR ALMOST 25 YEARS OLD. 
          UH, FOUNDED AS A BUSINESS UNIT OUTTA MUNI CODE. 
          UH, OUR FOCUS IS INTELLIGENT BUSINESS PROCESS AUTOMATION FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          UH, WE HAVE 2100 CLIENTS NATIONWIDE. 
          UH, 1700 ARE PUBLIC SECTOR, LOCAL STATE, K 12 LAW ENFORCEMENT, SPECIAL DISTRICTS, UH, VERY SMALL NUMBER OF FEDERAL, UH, WEATHER. 
          THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD HAS WENT LIVE ON THIS PRODUCT ABOUT, UH, A YEAR AGO. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT MCKAYLA AND HER TEAM WENT AND, UH, SAT WITH THEM. 
          UH, THEY GAVE 'EM DEMOS OF HOW THEY USED IT, WHAT THEY LIKED, UH, AND WENT WELL. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CLIENT IN TEXAS, SUNNYVALE, UH, A SUBURB OF SUNSET VALLEY. 
          SUNSET VALLEY, I'M SORRY, UH, SUBURB OF AUSTIN. 
          UH, OTHER CLIENTS THAT WE GOT ABOUT 60 TOTAL IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          BUILDING THAT UP ON THIS PRODUCT, GIVEN IT'S A, A, A NEW, NEW PLATFORM, UH, TO THE COMPANY. 
          UH, WE'RE IN CURRENTLY, UH, WENT LIVE WITH KEY WEST FLORIDA A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. 
          UH, I HAVE SEVERAL OTHERS, UH, STARTING BELLWETHER, UH, BELLFLOWER CA, UH, CALIFORNIA, UH, RIGHT THERE IN THE SUBURB OF, UH, SAN FRANCISCO. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH THIS SPECIFIC PRODUCT. 
          UH, REALLY SELLING INTO OUR 1700 CLIENTS NATIONWIDE. 
          AND TEXAS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF US. 
          WE HAVE 300 PUBLIC SECTOR JUST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          YOUR SALES TEAM'S BEEN BUSY. 
          WE HAVE, I DON'T MIND TELLING YOU THE $34,000 A YEAR FOR AN ANNUAL FEE SEEMS A LOT LIKE A LOT TO ME. 
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IT SEEMS, I MEAN, I'M JUST SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I'M, I'M QUESTIONING ABOUT DESKS. 
          AND SO WHEN WE COME UP HERE TO THIS 34 KA YEAR, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO ME. 
          IT'S HIGHLY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE. 
          AND, UH, PART OF IT, OR HALF OF IT WAS THE INTEGRATED PLAN REVIEW THAT WE, WE'VE DEVELOPED OURSELF OVER THE PAST, UH, 12 MONTHS. 
          UH, THAT JUST IN COMPARISON, THAT'D PROBABLY COST YOU $20,000 A YEAR JUST FOR THAT FROM COMPETITORS. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? SERGEANT, YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, SO I'M SORRY. 
          ON THAT INTEGRATED PLAN REVIEW, UH, TYPICALLY WITH PLATFORMS, UH, LIKE THE PERMITTING PLATFORMS, TYPICALLY IN THE MARKETPLACE, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A PLAN REVIEW ON THE PLATFORM. 
          YOU HAVE TO INTEGRATE WITH COMPANIES SUCH AS BLUEBEAM OR REPLAN SOFT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND IT'S, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT CREATES PROB PROBLEMS. WE DISCOVERED THIS HEAVILY AT, UH, AT WEATHERFORD. 
          THEY INTEGRATE WITH E PLAN SOFT, UH, THE INTEGRATION. 
          UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE A REALLY STRONG VENDOR THAT, UH, KEEPS COMMUNICATING, IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, IT'S A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. 
          UH, SO BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM WEATHERFORD AND OTHERS, WE, UH, INVESTED VERY HEAVILY IN OUR R AND D TEAM AND DEVELOPED IT WHERE IT'S FULLY INTEGRATED, IT'S VERY SEAMLESS. 
          UH, IT GIVES YOU A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THERE'S ONLY PROBABLY TWO OR THREE VENDORS IN THE, THE COUNTRY THAT OFFER THAT. 
          AND IF YOU, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT, YOU WOULD BE HAVING TO GO TO SOMEONE LIKE AN E PLAN SOFT, WHICH WOULD BE A VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, OR SOME OF THE OTHERS. 
          VERY EXPENSIVE PURCHASE. 
          I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONERS WE DEAL PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, AT THE OFFICE AND, AND HOW, HOW THIS SOFTWARE WORKS AND HOW THAT PROGRAM SPECIFIC, THAT COMPONENT WORKS. 
          WORKS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU, THE, WHOEVER UPLOADS THEIR, UH, IN YOUR CASE IT'S PLOTS, BUT IT PLANS OR PLOTS, UH, THE REVIEWERS WILL BE ABLE TO MARK IT UP, UH, WITH FEATURE FUNCTIONALITY THAT'S FAR BEYOND ANYTHING AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET. 
          UH, WE DEVELOPED THIS PRODUCT TO, TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AND TO KEEP COMPETE WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS AN OPTION. 
          BUT ANY OF, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GET ACCESS AND REVIEW THINGS, LOOK AROUND. 
          THOSE ARE JUST PARTICIPANT USERS, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY AS YOU WANT OF THAT. 
          SOMETHING ELSE THAT JAMIE EXPRESSED WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO SEE WHERE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS ARE IN PROGRESS. 
          SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PICK UP THE PHONE, SEND THAT EMAIL, YOU'RE ABLE TO GET IN THE SYSTEM AND SEE AUTOMATICALLY WHAT WORK IS BEING DONE AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE NEEDED. 
          AND ALSO BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THOSE REQUESTS. 
          I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT SOFTWARE FOR, UH, PLATTING AND, UH, PERMITTING DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS IF I VOTE? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          JASON, JUST A QUESTION. 
          THIS CAN INTERFACE WITH WHAT YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, CORRECT. 
          FROM AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY REASON YOU'RE HERE. 
          . 
          I REALLY MISS Y'ALL. 
          WE MISSED YOU TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WISH I'D HAVE KNOWN THAT WE WERE WAITING BACK THERE. 
          I WOULD'VE GOT 'EM UP QUICKER. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UM, WHERE'D SHE GO? IS THERE, OKAY. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALL LEFT US, JUDGE. 
          WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO ITEM E ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          WELL, KIM, IS THERE ANYTHING, WERE YOU DONE OR YOU STILL HAD OTHER STUFF? WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS TO DISCUSS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL GO BACK, NEVERMIND. 
          WE'LL GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AT. 
          SO THE ONLY OTHER ITEM TO DISCUSS WOULD BE THE, THE TOWERS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MARK THAT AS A FIVE, BUT WE HAVE, THERE WAS NO VOTE ON THE RADIO TOWERS YET. 
          I THINK WE'RE, UH, MY TAKE ON THAT WAS THAT WE WERE, UH, FOLLOWING DOWN TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AND, AND LOOK AT THAT AT THE, AS A, AT ONE OF THE LAST ITEMS. BUT JAMES, AS FAR AS THE TIRE CONCERNED ON, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED REGARDING THAT. 
          IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO, WHAT I WAS DOING IS ALSO, UH, UH, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ORIGINAL SALESPEOPLE WITH MOTOROLA ENGINEERS AND HAVE THEM COME TO AND PRESENT ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE FURTHER GOING BACK. 
          THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING? I'M TRYING TO GET THAT NEXT BUDGET. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS. 
          THURSDAY. 
          THURSDAY IS OR FRIDAY, THURSDAY. 
          FRIDAY. 
          FRIDAY. 
          FRIDAY. 
          I'LL TRY TO HAVE 'EM ON FRIDAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK COMMISSIONER WALDEN PRE PREFERRED THE 
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ORIGINAL PRE PRESENTERS AS WELL, WOULDN'T YOU? WE'LL TAKE ANY OF 'EM. 
          , ANY OF 'EM? THEY, THE QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT THE SAME. 
          ANYTHING ELSE, KEVIN? WELL, THE ONES THAT ANSWERED IT THE FIRST TIME WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE. 
          SO OUTSIDE OF, OF THE VEHICLE, UH, FOR FIRE MARSHAL CONSTABLE TWO, CONSTABLE THREE ISSUE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE TOWERS. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE CAPTAIN ON CAP, EXCEPT FOR A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST AND PRECINCTS. 
          SO THE, UH, I THINK AS WE GO DOWN THROUGH HERE, THOSE, THOSE HAVE TO BE, SO THERE, THERE WAS ONE THERE THAT WE JUST PASSED OVER THERE THAT WE JUST APPROVED ON, ON EITHER SIDE OF OR EXTENSION THERE FOR THAT EXPLORER. 
          WE'RE JUST PASSING THAT ON. 
          JUST, WE, WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          NO MOTION WAS MADE TO RIGHT. 
          AND I LEFT IT AS SO, SO DO WE WANNA DISCUSS PRECINCT OR COME BACK TO THAT AFTER Y'ALL HAVE DISCUSSED YOUR FORMULA? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? SO I, UM, THERE'S THIS TALKING ABOUT LIKE CAPITAL REQUESTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I THINK YOU HAVE THOSE FOR ALL OF US, OR I, WELL, I ONLY THING I HAVE FOR PRECINCT ONE IS FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR $6,000 AND THEN 15,500 FOR SMALL TOOLS AS NON CAP REQUESTS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY CAPITAL REQUESTS FOR PRECINCT ONE. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          PRECINCT TWO HAS A MARK. 
          WE NEED TO VOTE FOR EACH DEAL, OR, OH, IF Y'ALL WANT TO, YOUR LOOKS BLANK. 
          GEORGE. 
          THE REASON I'M ASKING, WELL, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT, THOSE ITEMS, UM, THIS MORNING AFTER I PRINTED THESE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO TO, TO BE CLEAR, JUST, JUST A SECOND TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM THE PRECINCT BUDGET. 
          THESE ARE NOT PAID FOR FROM GENERAL FUND. 
          THESE ARE PAID FOR FROM THE PRECINCT BUDGET. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THOUGH THEY'RE CONTAINED IN THE BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, AND SO ITS EFFECT ON THE GENERAL FUND IS ZERO. 
          RIGHT. 
          FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE, COUNTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WE STILL HAVE CAP. 
          WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S, THAT'S PAYING ATTENTION HERE IS THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY APPROVE THESE. 
          BUT THE MONEY COME, THE FUNDING COMES FROM YOUR PRECINCT BUDGET ALREADY. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOW IT'S JUST WHERE DO, WHERE DO WE BUDGET THESE IN, IN THE LINES AND CHECK TO PUT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU ALL HAVE THOSE BUDGETS. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S JUST A FORMALITY. 
          THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS GONNA BE SPENT RIGHT. 
          FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE OTHER THAN FOR THAT. 
          SO, RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT IS YOUR ITEM? SO $6,000 FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IN THE 15 AND 15,500 FOR SMALL TOOLS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF FAVOR. 
          I CAN'T AFFORD ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, BUT CARRIES FIVE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO PRECINCT TWO IS REQUESTING A MARQUIS SIGN. 
          THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $20,000. 
          A BOW MAG PAD DRUM ROLLER FOR 170,224. 
          UH, TWO THREE QUARTER TON WITH UTILITY BED TRUCKS AT $130,000. 
          A THREEQUARTER TON WITH A REGULAR BED CREW CAB. 
          $60,000 AND A HALF TON WITH REGULAR, UM, BED CREW CAB FOR 50,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 430,224. 
          WHAT YOU MEAN BY COMMISSIONER HOLTON? SAME BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF PAPER. 
          YEAH. 
          GEORGE. 
          WE'LL LET YOU BORROW SOME OF THAT OCCASIONALLY. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LAY IT ON ME IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED, PLEASE VOTE. 
          GLOVES IN THE VEST CARRIES FIVE. 
          OH. 
          AND SO PRECINCT THREE HAS, HAS A LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY ORDERED IN THE 2025 THAT'S GONNA BE ROLLOVER. 
          AND THESE ARE ALL TURP PURCHASES. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          THOSE AREN'T NECESSARY TO GO THROUGH. 
          THEY'RE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. 
          IT'S JUST, AGAIN, THE ROLLOVER FOR, THEY NEED TO BE ROLLED OVER. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, THEY FIT IN THE SAME SPOT. 
          THEY'RE ALL PAID FOR WITH THE GRANT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL EVER PRECINCT FOUR HAS NEW REQUESTS. 
          UM, A RAIN WATER HARVESTING TANK AND YOU ARE GONNA HAVE A GRANT FOR THAT? YEAH, WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT, UH, FOR 36,000. 
          UM, A HALL TRUCK FOR 163,000. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          A BROOM FOR 80,000 MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS FOR THE MECHANIC SHOP OF 6,000 AND SAFETY EQUIPMENT, GLOVES, GLASSES, VEST FOR A THOUSAND FOR A TOTAL, YES MA'AM. 
          FOR A TOTAL OF 285,926. 
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THAT WOULD BE FY 26. 
          BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          AND A DISCUSSION WE, WE ALSO ADD A FEW ITEMS ON AT THE BOTTOM. 
          YEAH. 
          AT THE BOTTOM ON THE ROLLOVER FOR OUR TURF PROGRAM. 
          YEP. 
          WE'RE STILL OPEN. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'LL COME THROUGH FOR US. 
          BUT THAT'S THE ROLLOVER ITEMS AT THE BOTTOM. 
          YEP. 
          TOTAL OF 206,000 $150 ALL IN PAPER. 
          CURIOUS ABOUT THAT, KIM? JUST A NOTE. 
          PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A HARVESTING TANK OR TWO ON MINE THAT ARE GONNA BE FULLY FUNDED BY A GRANT GRANT ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU SAID TWO. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNTS? IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON HOW MUCH THE GUTTERING COMES IN AT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE GRANT IS INTENDED PROBABLY TO PAY FOR THE GUTTERS AND TWO TANKS. 
          WE MIGHT PIVOT OFF OF THAT A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING ON IF THE COSTS ARE LOWER OR HIGHER ON THE GUTTERS. 
          AND IT'S FULLY FUNDED. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND ANY PRECINCT TWO ONLY MONEY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE ONLY GONNA SPEND FROM THE GRANT AND YOU'RE GONNA BE OH YEAH. 
          PARDON? HAVE THESE BEEN APPLIED FOR AND AWARDED? OKAY. 
          WE PASSED THAT IN COURT. 
          YEAH. 
          12 MONTHS AGO. 
          WELL, 10 MONTHS AGO MAYBE. 
          I THINK THERE WERE SOME TO BUY IT WITH PREVIOUSLY WITH RFO. 
          WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO BACK. 
          BUT NOW THAT THERE'S ACTUAL AGREEMENTS, IF WE WILL HAVE THOSE BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND FOR SIGNING. 
          I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY, THIS IS WHAT OPPORTUNITY THEY THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ALREADY. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT OKAY. 
          TO DO. 
          UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DOING AT PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF. 
          SHERIFF POSSE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WE NEED DAN AT, UH, PRECINCT THREE. 
          YEAH, I HAVE THOSE. 
          I'LL REACH OUT TO GET COPIES OF THEM IF WE DON'T HAVE THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FOR THE PRECINCTS. 
          YOU WANNA EXPAND A LITTLE BIT? 'CAUSE I'M PRETTY PROUD. 
          I KNOW WALDEN IS, BUT I'M PROUD OF WHAT HE'S DONE OVER THERE AND I'M, I'M PROUD OF THE STEPS THAT WE'RE TAKING TO BE, TO TRY TO BE GOOD, GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR, OF OUR WATER. 
          SURE. 
          AND, UH, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO COMMISSIONER WALDEN LED THE WAY ON, UH, GETTING SOME WATER HARVESTING TANKS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT INSTALLED. 
          UM, I THINK YOU WERE INTEGRAL FOR BOTH THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S POSSE AND THEN ALSO AT PRECINCT THREE. 
          AND WE, UH, COMMISSIONER HALE AT PRECINCT FOUR AND MYSELF, WE FOLLOWED SUIT AND APPLIED FOR GRANTS WITH THE UPPER TRINITY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE CAPTURING RAINWATER OFF OF SEVERAL LARGE SHEDS THAT WE HAVE AND EQUIPMENT BUILDINGS. 
          THESE ARE GONNA GO INTO TWO LARGE STORAGE TANKS FOR US. 
          ONE TANK IS GOING TO BE LOCATED PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ROAD WITH A GRAVITY FED PUMP THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR FIRE, UH, ENGINES TO SWING BY AND FILL UP THEIR TANK WITH WATER FROM THAT WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO EXIT OFF OF THE ROAD. 
          SO THAT'LL BE NICE FOR THAT AREA. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER TANK WILL, UH, FILL UP AND WILL ALLOW US TO USE WATER FROM THAT FOR WHEN WE ROLL COMPACT AND WATER NEW ROADS FOR THE CURING PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          WE'RE, AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, DESIGNING TO SET UP, SO HOPEFULLY OUR PRECINCT WILL RUN OFF OF CAPTURED RAIN WATER RUN OFF, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PULL FROM THE WATER WELL AS MUCH. 
          HOPEFULLY NOT. 
          SO ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT FOUR TANKS NOW WE'RE COLLECTING OFF OF, UH, EVERY BUILDING EXCEPT THE OFFICE AND THE SHOP. 
          AND WE HAVE PLANS TO PUT THOSE ON LINE AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE FOUR 65,000 GALLON TANKS, SO WE GOT PLENTY OF WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE, WE, UH, ARE ABLE TO TRANSFER AMONG THEM. 
          UH, FIRE TRUCKS CAN, CAN ACCESS WATER OUT OF TWO OF THOSE BY DRAFTING IF THEY NEED TO. 
          THE, UH, PUMP SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE ALLOWS US TO TRANSFER WATER AMONG ANY OF THE FOUR TANKS, JUST WITH ONE PUMP AND THE PIPE PIPELINE SYSTEM. 
          WE'VE GOT SET UP BETWEEN THEM. 
          AND, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, UV TREATMENT SYSTEM IN LINE THAT ALLOWS US TO USE THAT WATER IN OUR BUILDINGS. 
          SO WE, WE USE THE RAINWATER THAT GOES THROUGH THE UV FILTER AND IS TREATED. 
          AND THEN WE USE IT IN OUR OFFICE AND IN OUR SHOP FOR OUR SOURCE OF WATER. 
          RIGHT NOW, AS LONG AS WE GET PLENTY OF RAIN, WE'LL HAVE, UH, UH, ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          WE GOTTA HAVE THE TANK OR TWO THAT ARE STORAGE TANKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE SYSTEM AS WELL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME EXTRA STORAGE, UH, THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD IN USE THERE IN, IN THE PRECINCT. 
          WE JUST MOVED THE LOCATION OF 'EM, SO STILL HAVEN'T FINISHED UP. 
          WE'VE GOT ONE MORE BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT OFF OF, AND THAT'S THE, UH, ESD BUILDING THAT'S IN THE CORNER OF OUR PARKING LOT THERE. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING RAINWATER FROM IT AS 
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WELL. 
          BUT, UM, I, I AM PROUD OF THAT. 
          I'M VERY PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          AND THE REASON THAT OPPORTUNITY HAS THIS PROGRAM IS FOR EDUCATION. 
          WE, UH, UM, I WENT TO THEM WITH MELTON HARMS ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO AND SAID, WE NEED THIS AT, UH, OUR SHOW GROUNDS, PARK COUNTY LIVESTOCK IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION SHOW GROUNDS. 
          WE HAVE A NEW BUILDING THERE AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE SHOW, THE STUDENTS HOW THEY CAN COLLECT RAINWATER FROM AT THEIR HOUSE AND USE IT. 
          AND SO THAT'S A 30,000, UH, SQUARE FOOT ROOF. 
          UH, THERE'S ALSO A 65,000 GALLON, UH, WATER TANK THERE, AND FOUR INCHES OF RAIN, UH, FILLS THAT TANK. 
          SO WE GOT IN AND USED THERE AS THEIR PRIMARY WATER SOURCE. 
          AND THROUGH THE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER TANK THAT WE'RE ALMOST COMPLETED WITH. 
          AND, UH, THEY SUPPLIED THE, THE MONEY FOR THE MATERIALS WE'RE DOING THE LABOR. 
          AND, UH, SO WE'LL HAVE TWO OF THOSE TANKS SITTING THERE, SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO DO THE WHOLE THING. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF, OF MELTON AND I GOING THERE, THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE GRANT PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S WHAT GOT IT ESTABLISHED. 
          UH, THEY, THEY TOLD ME AFTER THE SECOND TIME THERE, THEY SAID, WE WANT Y'ALL TO PUT SOME MONEY IN. 
          I SAID, FOR THESE NONPROFITS, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          THEY WILL, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IF YOU DON'T FULLY FUND IT. 
          SO THEY WENT FROM THAT FIRST GRANT, UH, OF $50,000 TO THE SHERIFF'S POLICY TO PUT THAT IN. 
          UH, THEY'VE EXPANDED THAT NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL THAT THEY, THEY EXPENDED LAST YEAR, BUT IT BECAME AN ANNUAL THING THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR. 
          THE DEADLINE IS THE END OF FEBRUARY. 
          IF ANYBODY'S LISTENING OUT THERE, THIS APPLIES TO YOU. 
          BUT SCHOOLS NEED THESE SO THAT THE KIDS CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UH, EVERY PUBLIC BUILDING NEEDS THE RAINWATER HARVESTING EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE CAN QUIT LETTING THAT WATER GO DOWN THE DITCH AND IT CAN BE UTILIZED. 
          AND SO, UH, I'M VERY PROUD OF IT. 
          UH, WE, WE WILL BEGIN THIS YEAR BY HAVING, BEGIN HAVING, UH, SCHOOL GROUPS COME FOR EDUCATIONAL TOURS TO SHOW THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING IT, AND HOW THAT COULD APPLY TO THEIR HOME AS WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COMMISSIONER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GOING, LET'S MOVE DOWN 
          [Items I.G. and I.H.]
TO, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO MOVE DOWN TO ITEM G, UM, IN FRONT OF THE SOS AND BENEFITS FOR PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          BECKY, WOULD YOU, IT HAS YOUR NAME ON THOUGH. 
          UM, SO YOU GOT NUMBERS. 
          HERE'S WHERE WE, IF YOU GOT NUMBERS FOR US THERE, WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS THAT WE, AT SOME POINT HERE, JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE, UH, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT SOME POINT THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO LET'S GET THE DATA THAT WE HAVE HERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO WITH THAT. 
          SO IN YOUR BOOKS, YOU HAVE THE COST FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IF YOU WERE TO DO THEIR PAY SCALE, UM, COMMITTEE RANKING FOR THIS, FOR THE COMMISSION PAY SCALE WAS A 1.8. 
          THE SALARY INCREASE WAS ABOUT 497,000 FOR A TOTAL COST INCREASE OF, UM, ALMOST 611,000. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE A NEW PAY SCALE FOR DISPATCH. 
          COMMITTEE RANKING WAS A 1.7 DISPATCH AND ANIMAL CONTROL COMMITTEE RANKING WAS A 1.7. 
          THE SALARY INCREASE IS 1 37 8 54 FOR A TOTAL COST INCREASE OF 1 68, 1 50. 
          UM, THEY HAVE NEW POSITIONS AS WELL THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED. 
          BUT THOSE ARE PAY SCALE INCREASES IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW. 
          OR DO YOU WANNA GO INTO THE NEW EMPLOYEES AS WELL? SO OUR, OUR SITUATION IS THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED NEW EMPLOYEES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANYWHERE ACROSS THE ANYWHERE. 
          NO. 
          ANY PLACE. 
          AND, UH, WE MAY BE PREMATURE IN LOOKING AT SCALES AND CO INCREASES BEFORE WE IDENTIFY THE NEW EMPLOYEES. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM . 
          TO ANYBODY? YEAH. 
          TO, TO SKIP BACK OVER WHEREVER WE NEED TO BE TO LOOK AT REQUESTS FOR NEW EMPLOYEES AND EITHER CAN EITHER PASS THOSE OR TURN THEM DOWN BEFORE WE LOOK AT SALARIES, SALARY SCALES, AND COLOR INCREASES BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAVE AN EFFECT ON THOSE NUMBERS THERE. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IN LINE HERE WITH WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND WITHOUT TIPPING OVER AND GOING INTO FUND BALANCE. 
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RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE MOST LIKELY GONNA DO THAT. 
          BUT, BUT SEE WHERE WE ARE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY WAY OF THINKING HOW THIS GOES. 
          I COULD BE WRONG THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THE, UM, ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEE OR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE REQUESTS OR RECLASSIFICATIONS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE DONE SOME IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, RIGHT? NO, NO. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING REGARDING THE, UH, DISPATCHERS. 
          ANYTHING. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 'EM, BUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          TALKED ABOUT 'EM. 
          WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          TALKED ABOUT 'EM BASED ON, I THINK, I THINK, JUDGE, I MAY BE WRONG HERE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOE HERE, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE NEED TO SYSTEMATICALLY GO THROUGH THESE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND, AND MANAGE THEM BEFORE WE LOOK AT GIVING ANY MORE MONEY OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THE QUESTION THE OTHER DAY WAS YOU MADE A MOTION FOR A 5% ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE SHERIFF WANTED PAY SCALE AND NOT THE 5%. 
          I DID GO BACK AND RUN IT, UM, BECAUSE THE 5% COLA PROJECTION DID INCLUDE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          WHAT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE WAS ABOUT $120,000 WORTH OF 2% BUMPS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE CURRENT SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          STEPPING GRADE. 
          I WENT BACK AND I PULLED BACK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE 5% OUT OF MY PROJECTION. 
          AND SO, AND THEN, SO IT'S GONNA BRING DOWN MY 5% PROJECT PROJECTION TO ABOUT 1.254 MILLION. 
          BUT THEN WHEN YOU ADD IN THE CIVILIAN PAY SCALE, THE COMMISSION PAY SCALE, IT WOULD MAKE, IF ALL, IF ALL OF THAT WAS DONE, IT WOULD COST ABOUT 2 MILLION, UM, $33,000. 
          SO BY DOING ALL OF THAT, IT INCREASES MY COAL SHOWING 5% COAL PLUS THE YES. 
          'CAUSE BASICALLY THEIR COMMISSION'S STEP GRADE, IF YOU AVERAGE IT OUT, IT'S ABOUT A 6% INCREASE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. 
          I MEAN, IT GOES ANYWHERE FROM 2% TO 14% BASED ON THE POSITION AND YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          BUT ON AN AVERAGE IT SITS ABOUT A 6% INCREASE. 
          SO WITH THE AMOUNT THAT I'M TALKING THAT SHE'S DESCRIBING THERE, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT POSITION WE'RE GONNA TAKE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA APPROVE FOR THE, THE PERSONNEL REQUEST. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PERSONNEL. 
          SO HOW'S THE BEST PLACE FOR US TO ACCESS THAT? IS THAT TO GO THROUGH THE BOOK ONE AT A TIME? IS THAT, UH, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PERSONNEL REQUEST FIRST SINCE WE'RE, WE COULD DO THAT UNDER THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE, THE, YOUR WHITE BOOK RIGHT THERE. 
          YES. 
          UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, RIGHT? YEP. 
          SO THE FIRST PERSONNEL REQUEST THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WAS FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          I'M SURE THEY CAN SPEAK ONTO, UM, THEIR NEED FOR WANTING TO RE DISTRICT, UM, COMMITTEE RANKED GIVING TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS AT A FIVE. 
          THEY RANKED GIVING, UH, THE SECOND TWO POSITIONS. 
          SO A FIVE FOR TWO TO GIVE POSITIONS. 
          THREE AND FOUR GOT A 3.5. 
          YOU KNOW, A QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP. 
          THEY CURRENTLY HAVE TWO VACANCIES. 
          IF THOSE POSITIONS COULD ROLL UP INTO SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          AND THEN BASICALLY THOSE WOULD JUST BE A RECLASSIFICATION INSTEAD OF A BRAND, BRAND NEW, UM, EMPLOYEES. 
          AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE ONE WHERE CURRENTLY THEY RUN A TEN NINE SPLIT ON NUMBER OF DEPUTIES. 
          AND THIS WAS THE ONE WHERE WE WERE RECOMMENDING GOING TO A NINE NINE SPLIT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF A COMMITTEE COMEBACK AS IF THAT COULD BE DONE. 
          AND I'M SURE THEY COULD SPEAK ON YEAH. 
          PROS AND CONS. 
          SO KIND OF GET STARTED HERE. 
          WE, WE'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER AREAS, BUT WE HAVE A FIVE RANKING FOR THE TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THOSE. 
          NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA NOT APPROVE THE OTHERS, BUT WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THESE TWO RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UH, THEN WE, WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH, THROUGH THE OTHERS. 
          SEE WHERE ELSE WE ARE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SEEN BY COMMISSIONER HOLTON YOU DISCUSSING, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? APPROVING WHICH ONES? TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IT, AND THEN IN RECLASSIFYING THE TWO CURRENT POSITIONS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WHAT IT SAYS RIGHT HERE. 
          GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS, IS THAT CORRECT? I WAS THINKING YOU WERE APPROVING THE TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE RECLASS. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WITH THE TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS COMES ALONG ABOUT $119,000 IN CAPITAL EACH YEAH. 
          BE, BE MARKING THAT SO THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT AS WE GO BACK TO OKAY. 
          TO APPROVE THOSE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO APPROVE THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND THAT'S NOT IN THIS AGENDA ITEM RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE APPROVING TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S IT FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIE . 
          ALRIGHT, SO THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST FOR TWO NEW DISPATCHER 
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POSITIONS. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RANKED ONE NEW DISPATCHER POSITION AT A 4.3. 
          WE RECOMMEND THE SECOND DISPATCHER POSITION AT A 4.2, BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM, THEY HAVE PART-TIME MONEY THAT THROW THAT PART-TIME MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR THE SECOND DISPATCHER. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE MOTION? I THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK I, I THINK, UH, MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THAT IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE BY VOTE. 
          THE NEXT REQUEST WAS TO RECLASS A CIVILIAN POSITION IN DISPATCH TO A SERGEANT POSITION TO CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP ROLE OVER DISPATCH. 
          AND THAT DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A APPOINT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN PIN DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE. 
          FIVE A. 
          THE NEXT IS THE REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. 
          UM, THIS IS COMES DOWN FROM SOME NEW LEGISLATION FROM HB 33. 
          IT'S THE VALDI STRONG ACT. 
          UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER POSITION IN A SERGEANT RANKING. 
          THIS DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING AT 3.2. 
          UM, I'M SURE THEY COULD SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. 
          THERE DOESN'T COME, EVEN THOUGH IT IS LEGISLATION, THERE'S NO FUNDING FROM THE STATE TO COME FROM THIS. 
          IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A NEW POSITION. 
          THEY COULD DESIGNATE SOMEONE ALREADY, BUT IN THEIR PLAN, IT IS A NEW POSITION. 
          WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THIS SIDE BEFORE WE VOTE? SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW POSITION. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU USE THIS PERSON SOMEWHERE ELSE? SO THIS WON'T ACTUALLY BE SERGEANT PAY. 
          IT'LL BE, UM, BASICALLY IT'LL BE A LITTLE LOWER WHAT, WHERE OUR, UM, OUR OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE SERGEANT POSITIONS COME IN. 
          UM, YES. 
          THE GOAL WITH THIS POSITION IS NOT ONLY TO HAVE THAT PERSON TAKE OVER ALL OUR PIO DUTIES, BUT TO ALSO TAKE OVER THE MANAGEMENT AND DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF OUR RECORDS DIVISION. 
          CURRENTLY, OUR RECORDS DIVISION IS BEING, UH, MANAGED BY A CID SERGEANT AND WE WANT TO PULL THEM OUT OF THAT SO THEY CAN DO THEIR CID DUTIES AND THEN HAVE THIS PERSON GO IN THERE AND HELP MANAGE ALL THOSE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS AND OTHER THINGS. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DUTIES THAT WON'T JUST BE PIO AND RECORDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE BUSY. 
          RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I I, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WITH THAT TOTAL COST OF IS $163,985, THEY DID PULL BACK ALL OF THE CAP REQUEST. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST BE A NEW EMPLOYEE. 
          SO I HAVE IT BUDGETED IN HERE AS A SERGEANT, SO I DON'T TASK FORCE TASK FORCE SERGEANT. 
          SO OFF THE TOP, A LITTLE BIT LESS. 
          SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TOTAL GOING TO BE? 1 4 7 4 1 3? YES. 
          YES. 
          ACTUALLY IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT NUMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CURIOUS . 
          UM, NEXT IS THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY BUDGET. 
          AGAIN, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS IS FROM, THIS ACTUALLY REQUESTED NECESSARILY COME FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          IT COMES FROM THE SECURITY COMMITTEE WISHING TO PUT A METAL DETECTOR AT THE ANNEX FOR CCL ONE. 
          SO THE COMMITTEE SAID, YES, WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT'S A FIVE RANKING. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE A METAL DETECTOR AT THE ANNEX FOR CCL ONE, BUT THE ADDITIONAL STAFF RECEIVED A ONE BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS WHY COULDN'T ADDITIONAL STAFFING FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY AT THE ANNEX DO THIS AS WELL? WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE. 
          UM, THE ISSUE IS THAT, UH, COURTHOUSE SECURITY'S ALREADY AT MINIMAL STAFFING EVERY DAY. 
          IF SOMEBODY TAKES OFF THEY'RE ON VACATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE'RE SHORT. 
          WE HAVE TO PULL IN RESOURCES FROM OTHER DIVISIONS. 
          UM, THE DAY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE LAST BUDGET WE HAD COURT GOING ON AT TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, WE TRANSPORTED A TOTAL OF ABOUT 30 PEOPLE TO JAIL THAT DAY FROM THOSE COURT SESSIONS. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE TRANSPORT DEPUTIES AND THAT'S THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY AVENUE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO STAFF THOSE POSITIONS, UM, WITH THE CURRENT STAFFING WE HAVE. 
          SO IF THE COURT DECIDES THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO, UH, ADDITIONAL STAFF WILL HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED. 
          DOES THAT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN WHERE YOU'RE TRANSPORTING 30 OR MORE PRISONERS EVERY DAY? IT'S PRETTY FREQUENT, YES, SIR. 
          DAY OR IT'S PROBABLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE COURT AND UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE MOOD THE JUDGE IS IN THAT DAY. 
          SO THIS IS AT THE ANNEX, CORRECT? THIS STATION WOULD BE AT THE ANNEX? YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IS THIS GONNA BE AT THE EAST ENTRANCE? NO, NO. 
          NO, SIR. 
          IT ACTUALLY, ONCE YOU PASS 
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THE, THE, THE CURRENT SECURITY STATION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND YOU GET BACK INTO THAT HALLWAY. 
          THE, SO IT'S BACK IN THE NORTH SOLELY FOR THAT HALLWAY GOING TO THAT. 
          YES SIR. 
          PCL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL DOWN HERE AND THE TOTAL COST THAT I'M SEEING IS $247,548 FOR TWO ADDITIONAL COURTHOUSE SECURITY PEOPLE. 
          EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH THEM. 
          THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE, ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AND, UH, FULL COST. 
          I THOUGHT THE TEST WAS RIGHT THERE ALREADY. 
          OR THEIR STATION. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A SECURITY DESK THERE THAT'S MANNED WHILE THE BUILDING'S OPEN. 
          AND, UH, ON, USUALLY WE HAVE TWO, TWO DEPUTIES THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE TO MAN THE DESK AND THEN ONE TO WALK THE BUILDING. 
          BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT THAT SECURITY DESK TO MONITOR THOSE CAMERAS. 
          SEE IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT OCCURRING DOWN ONE OF THE HALLWAYS THAT IT'S NOT VISIBLE, WHERE WOULD THE, UM, METAL DETECTOR GO? IT'D ACTUALLY GO DOWN, DOWN FURTHER, CLOSER TO WHERE THE CORD IS NOW. 
          SO THERE'S USED TO BE A DOORWAY THERE, BASICALLY WHERE THE ADDITION, THE NEW ADDITION TO THE, THE ANNEX STARTS, THAT'S WHERE THE SECURITY DESK, THE NEW SECURITY DESK WOULD GO. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA MAN IT EVERY DAY THAT THE COURT'S OPEN, OR EVERY DAY THAT THE BUILDING'S OPEN WITH AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE. 
          UM, KIND OF LIKE WE HAVE HERE AT THE, THE, THE MAIN COURTHOUSE. 
          BUT ON COURT DAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO RUN A METAL DETECTOR. 
          AT THE VERY MINIMUM, WHEN WE MET, UM, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, JUDGE MARTIN WAS THERE AND MYSELF, AND ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS A CONCERN WAS THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR ON EAST DOOR GOING IN, THEY'VE GONE DEEP ENOUGH INTO THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PASSING THE CLERK'S OFFICE, PASSING THE, UH, TREASURER'S OFFICE NOW, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOW FULLY INTO THE BUILDING BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE SECURITY. 
          AND WHAT THEY WERE WANTING TO DO IS MOVE THAT FURTHER DOWN EAST, CLOSER TO THE DOOR, TO ALLOW MORE CONTROL OVER WHO ENTERS THE BUILDING BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT SECURITY STATION. 
          IS THAT, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT OR IS THAT AN OPTION? AND AGAIN, I'M JUST SPEAKING ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BY JUDGE MARTIN AND THE CONCERNS THAT HE HAD. 
          YEAH, SO THE, THE ISSUE WITH THAT BUILDING IS THERE'S A BUNCH OF PUBLIC OFFICES THERE THAT ARE NOT COURT OFFICES. 
          AND SO UNDER, UNDER TEXAS LAW, PEOPLE CAN LEGALLY CARRY A FIREARM IN THAT BUILDING UP TO A CERTAIN POINT. 
          THEY CAN'T ENTER COURT OFFICES OR COURT BUILDINGS OR, OR COURT THE COURT ROOMS WITH THOSE FIREARMS. BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO PLACE MOVE THE SECURITY DOWN THERE AND SCREEN EVERYBODY COMING IN, THEN WE'RE, YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO SOME, WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO SOME LEGAL ASPECTS OF NOT ALLOWING OR ALLOWING PEOPLE TO ENTER INTO THAT BUILDING WITH FIREARMS. SO THE POINT I MADE WAS THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT SITUATION HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IN THIS BUILDING. 
          WE HAVE COURT UPSTAIRS, WE HAVE ONE ENTRANCE. 
          THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I, WE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY. 
          THERE'S ONE ENTRANCE HERE, BUT YEAH. 
          SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF A DEAL AS I LOOK IN AT THE YELLOW HERE, IF Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOLLOWING ALONG IN YOUR BOOK. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE COMMITTEE RANKING THERE FOR THE ADDITIONAL STAFF, UH, FOR RANKED A ONE AND THE, UH, THE, UH, COMMITTEE RANKING FOR THE NEW STATION TO MOVE ONE DEPUTY WHEN COURT IS IN SESSION IS A FIVE. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA, I'LL INTERJECT RIGHT HERE BECAUSE 'CAUSE IT GOES HAND IN HAND. 
          LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE BAILIFFS AND PARDON MY IGNORANCE. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ASSIST ON THE, WHEN THERE'S A COURT SESSION GOING ON, I'D IMAGINE THEY'RE THERE AND WOULD THEY NOT BE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST ON A, SO SOMEBODY ASKED THAT QUESTION PREVIOUSLY. 
          I THINK I HEARD THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DUTIES. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY, THEY'RE EMPLOYED BY THE JUDGES. 
          THEY ARE NOT MY EMPLOYEES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE COMMISSIONED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SOME OF 'EM WEAR MY UNIFORM. 
          SO I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THOSE PEOPLE. 
          COULD THEY HELP? YES. 
          CAN I MAKE THEM HELP? NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT, BUT MY POINT IS, AS I WOULD IMAGINE THIS SECURITY IN THIS CASE IS JUDGE MARTIN AND HE WOULD HAVE A BAILIFF THAT MAY BE THERE TO ASSIST BASED OFF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE WAS, I WOULD ASSUME HE WOULD BE THERE AT COURT ALREADY AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST THE BAIL BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE PRICE TAG DOWN HERE. 
          THE BAIL UP IS MAINLY IN THE COURTROOM THE WHOLE TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS WHAT WE COULD DO IS, SINCE THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE, BUT TO MOVE THE DEPUTY WHEN COURT'S IN SESSION 
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RECEIVED A FIVE, WE COULD ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, SEND BACK THE INFORMATION TO THE SECURITY COMMITTEE THAT IT SEEMS TO US THAT WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER THEIR CONTROL THAT APPARENTLY DON'T WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR, OR DON'T ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT EITHER, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST IN THIS PROCESS. 
          WE'RE ALL FOR SECURITY AS, AS MUCH AS IS POSSIBLE. 
          BUT I THINK THE $247,548 SEEMS A BIT EXCESSIVE IN RELATION TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE SPEND MONEY FOR. 
          IT'S JUST THE WAY I SEE IT. 
          ONE THING ABOUT THE ANNEX, UH, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHERE THE, THE DEPUTIES SIT, THAT HALLWAY WHERE THE TREASURER PERSON IS, THAT'S A SECURE DOOR. 
          YES. 
          ONLY EMPLOYEES CAN GET IN THERE, UH, BRIANNA'S OFFICE, THAT'S A SECURE DOOR. 
          ONLY EMPLOYEES CAN GET IN THERE. 
          SO THE ONLY PUBLIC REALLY PUBLIC OFFICES IS DEON RECORDS AUTO REGISTRATION. 
          AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE COURTROOM. 
          SO THE DEPUTIES THAT SIT RIGHT OUTSIDE MY DOOR, THEY CAN SEE AUTO REGISTRATION. 
          THIS HALLWAY BEHIND THEM IS SECURE. 
          AND SO THE ONLY OTHER, UH, OPEN AREAS IS DOWN AT THE, THE COURTROOM DOWN THERE. 
          SO WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN, UH, TO, TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT OTHER CORRIDOR DOWN THERE THAT GOES DOWN TO THE COURTROOM, UH, SECURE? NO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC TRAFFIC. 
          PROBATE IS DOWN THERE. 
          UH, AND MY CLERK'S OFFICE IS DOWN THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC TRAFFIC, UH, THAT'S THERE. 
          NOT JUST DURING COURT DAYS, BUT IT'S THERE. 
          THERE IS. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO WOULD THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SCREENING PROCESS TO GET INTO THOSE OTHER OFFICES TO YOUR OFFICE DOWN THERE? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND. 
          THEY IN COURT. 
          WELL, IF THEY'RE DOWN THAT HALL, I, I THINK THE, THE SECURITY, UH, I THINK THEIR MAIN, UH, CONCERN WAS DURING COURT. 
          I, I'M NOT ON THAT BOARD, SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. 
          I I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO RETHINK. 
          'CAUSE I'M SURE THAT THEY, THEY'VE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY EVERY DAY AND VERY WELL AWARE. 
          UM, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE RANKINGS THAT THESE, THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS GOT FROM OUR COMMITTEE OF SIX HERE. 
          AND I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, EITHER PASS OVER THIS RIGHT NOW OR MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE OF THE RANKING OF THE NEW STATION IS THAT YOU MOVE ONE DEPUTY WHEN COURT'S IN SESSION THAT RECEIVED A FIVE FROM THE COMMITTEE, IN WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT. 
          SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE PASS THIS AND COME BACK TO IT WHEN WE REALIZE WE'VE GOT $250,000 EXTRA THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND. 
          IS THAT A MOTION? NO, IT'S JUST A BYPASS. 
          NO ACTION. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          I'M JUST TAKING A SHOT. 
          AND I, I, NOBODY WANTS, I MEAN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SECURE WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO WORK. 
          I WANT IS A VERY VOLATILE PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. 
          AND PEOPLE ARE THERE AND, AND THEY'RE MAD. 
          AND, AND THOSE, THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN. 
          WELL, AND WHAT, UM, IF I MAY, UM, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU. 
          NO, YOU'RE FINE. 
          UM, AGAIN, BEING THE MESSENGER, THIS BEING IN TALKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, I'M, I'M NOT ON THE SECURITY COMMITTEE, BUT AGAIN, ECHOING WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM JUDGE MARTIN, UH, HIS STAFF AND, AND, AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS, THAT THE MOMENT THEY ENTER THAT DOOR IN THIS CLIMATE, AND TODAY YOU HEAR OF THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHEN YOU AND SOMEBODY ENTERS THAT DOOR, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CASE THAT YOU CAN CARRY A GUN INTO THAT BUILDING. 
          AND THAT CHANGES THINGS, OBVIOUSLY FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. 
          BUT THE CONCERN IS, AGAIN, I'M THE MESSER OF THIS, JUST TAKING THIS TO THE COURT, THERE'S A BIG CONCERN FOR SOMEBODY HAVING FREE ACCESS THAT GOES, THAT ENTERS THAT BUILDING, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE IN THAT BUILDING. 
          COULD THEY OVERTAKE OR, OR SURPRISE THAT SECURITY STATION. 
          BUT ONCE THEY HIT THAT IN, INTO THAT BUILDING, THEN THEY'RE AFRAID OF SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          JUDGE, YOU CAN ALSO CARRY A FIREARM IN THIS BUILDING. 
          IT'S THE SAME SCENARIO. 
          THERE ARE PLACES THAT YOU CAN GO IN THIS BUILDING, UH, AND WHERE YOU CAN CARRY A FIREARM. 
          WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WHEN THE LAW CHANGED FOUR YEARS AGO, PROBABLY ABOUT HOW THERE ARE LOCATIONS IN THIS BUILDING THAT YOU COULD GO IN AND CARRY A FIREARM. 
          BUT IN FACT, I THINK WE HAD SIGNS UP AT ONE POINT, YOU CAN GO HERE, YOU CAN'T GO THERE. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE DID HERE OR NOT. 
          I KNOW THE AMEXES WITH WITHOUT, WITH, WITHOUT A DOUBT. 
          THAT WAS, WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THAT'S 
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THE SITUATION. 
          SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE FROM THAT REGARD. 
          UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A REASONABLE, A REASONABLE PLAN. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT IN THE COMMITTEE THERE AS THE NEW STATION TO MOVE ONE DEPUTY WHEN THE COURT'S IN SESSION BEING A REASONABLE DEAL. 
          AND WE WOULD REQUEST THEN PERHAPS THAT THE BAILIFF MIGHT BECOME, MIGHT COME DOWN AND ASSIST, AT LEAST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE WE, I THINK WE DECIDE TO HIRE TWO NEW PEOPLE AND HAVE THIS WHOLE THING SET UP HERE. 
          WE COULD DO THAT AND, AND WE COULD ASK THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR HELP AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          THERE, THERE'S OTHER, YOU KNOW, PEACE OFFICERS IN THAT BUILDING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          I, AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BYPASS THE, THE NEED. 
          I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD DISCUSSION TO AT LEAST CARRY FORWARD, EXPLORE THAT CARRY FORWARD. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT, BUT JUST ONE THING TOO, TO BACK UP. 
          IF, IF, IF YOU FUND THAT WITH ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THAT THING WILL BE MANNED ALL THE TIME. 
          SURE. 
          SO JUST, JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, RIGHT. 
          SEEMS TO ME AT SOME POINT WE'RE WE NEED TO, TO KIND OF RECONCILE ALL THESE, UH, BUILDING SECURITY ISSUES, ADDRESS THOSE AS A COURT AS A WHOLE. 
          AND, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA COME A POINT WHERE WE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, OTHER OPTIONS OTHER THAN HIRING SOMEBODY THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR THROUGH WHOEVER TO DO THAT. 
          AND, AND WE LOOK AT CONTRACTING THIS OUT PERHAPS TO SOME OTHER, TO A SECURITY FIRM OR SOMETHING. 
          AND AS, AS A COST SAVING MEASURE. 
          BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WE START ADDING UP THE COST OF ALL THESE THINGS, COST OUTFITTING, ET CETERA, EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED THERE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG NUMBER. 
          AND I THINK WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT SOME POINT. 
          SO NOT TRYING TO, TO DISREGARD OR SHIRK ANY RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE COURT MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP THOSE AREAS SECURE. 
          BUT HERE'S ANOTHER OPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD THAT WORK, SHERIFF, IF WE DEFINITELY . 
          SO IT IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. 
          UM, THE MAIN PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH HAVING JUST SECURITY, JUST A SECURITY COMPANY, THERES, THEY DON'T HAVE POWERS OF ARREST. 
          SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO LAY HANDS ON AND DETAIN PEOPLE. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A POLICE OFFICER THERE OVERSEEING THE SECURITY CONTRACTOR, THEN I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY WELL COVERED THERE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A COP AND A COUPLE SECURITY YARDS AT A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY EXTENDS THE AMOUNT OF HALLWAYS AND SECURITY YOU CAN PROVIDE. 
          SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE, IT'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE'S A NEED. 
          I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. 
          I'M, I'M MORE OF SUGGEST THAT OTHER COUNTIES OUR SIZE MIGHT BE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. 
          IS THERE A A, AN AVERAGE THAT THAT COURT'S IN SESSION THERE? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? I CAN GET YOU THEIR SCHEDULE IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVERY DAY OR A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK OR, I, I MEAN, I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          IT IT DEPENDS. 
          IT REALLY DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE LALA NO, I CAN GET IT FROM THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE BACK THE LAST THREE MONTHS AND FIND SURE. 
          THAT WOULD HELP. 
          WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING THOSE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS AND THE, THE FEASIBILITY OR A VIABLE, THOSE ARE, SORRY. 
          NO, YOU'RE, I THINK THAT'S IT AS FAR AS NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU, UM, NEW. 
          CAN WE GO TO A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST? YES. 
          AGENDA ITEM HERE. 
          I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO CLEAN UP. 
          SO LAST TIME Y'ALL APPROVED THE ELECTION CLERK HOURLY RAISE DOES NOT AFFECT BUDGET. 
          IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED TO COVER IT. 
          I HAD A TYPO IN MY PRESENTATION. 
          I PUT $11 AN HOUR. 
          IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE $13 AN HOUR. 
          AGAIN. 
          IT IS STILL BUDGETARILY FINE. 
          DOESN'T INCREASE THE BUDGET. 
          I JUST TYPED THE WRONG AMOUNT. 
          IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE $13 AN HOUR FOR ELECTION CLERKS. 
          YES. 
          WELL, YES. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU NEED DONE CLEANING THAT UP? JUST CLEAN THAT UP. 
          A NEW MOTION. 
          I MOTION IT. 
          COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          SECONDED. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, I KNOW THIS IS THE CORRECT YEAH, THAT BECKY, I PUT $11 AN HOUR. 
          ITS SUPPOSED TO BE 13. 
          STILL NO IMPACT TO BUDGET. 
          Y'ALL JUST, WE HAVE TO HAVE COURT ACTION FOR THE HOURLY RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          DUE TO BECKY'S COMPLETE CARELESSNESS. 
          SO SHE ? YES, PLEASE. 
          WHAT WAS THAT ON? SORRY. 
          ELECTION CLERKS TO $13 AN HOUR. 
          ANY OTHER? SORRY. 
          HOW DARE THERE BE ONE TYPO IN THIS ENTIRE THING? 
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11. 
          $11 IS THE COMMISSIONER'S HOURLY RATE. 
          . 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT WAS EASY TO TRANSPOSE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? FIVE VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT I WANTED TO BRING SOME ATTENTION TO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE OTHERS IS IT THEY HAVE HAD A VACANCY FOR SEVERAL MONTHS THAT, UH, THE DIRECTOR HAS DECIDED NOT TO FILL. 
          UH, WITH, WITH ELIMINATING THAT POSITION, HE IS ASKING TO HOLD ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE SALARY SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE NETWORK TECHNICIANS SALARIES UP BASED ON THEIR CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED. 
          BUT EVEN AFTER KEEPING SOME OF THE BUDGET IS STILL A SAVINGS OF OVER $62,000 TO FUND 10. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BECKY, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE ON ITEM I YOU'RE ON ITEM I. 
          YEAH. 
          I I DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF ME. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          I DIDN'T MOVE TO THAT, BUT YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE ARE ON ITEM I. 
          WE WENT FROM G TO I. 
          NO, I, ON MINE IS SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR ELECTED ON THE I ON YOURS. 
          I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT A, WHERE WAS THE, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT A PREVIOUS, A PREVIOUS, WHERE WAS ELECTION CLERK? I, ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY SELECT THE ELECTION CLERK. 
          SO, I'M SORRY, I WAS ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA. 
          IT SHOULD BE UNDER ITEM. 
          I I DIFFERENT I, YEAH, I GO TO TODAY'S, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE SAME AS NOT. 
          OKAY, SO CONTINUE. 
          IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE IT BUDGET? WELL, WE HAD QUESTION. 
          I GUESS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND THEY'LL ASK QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          UH, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          SO THE, THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE TO ASK FOR YOU AND OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO USE THIS TO RECLASSIFY. 
          ARE YOU GONNA USE IT TO NO, IT'S BASICALLY TO GIVE RAISES. 
          SO WHENEVER I DID THE LITTLE SEARCH, I GET THAT THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS, BECAUSE WE GET INTO THIS, SO WE GIVE A RAISE HERE, WHAT ARE WE DOING OVER? RIGHT. 
          BUT HE'S ALSO CUTTING $102,000. 
          I GOT THIS. 
          YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT KIND OF FLIES BACK AT US. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT FLIES BACK AT US IS YOU GAVE THEM A BIGGER PERCENTAGE RAISE THAN YOU DID SOMEONE ELSE. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO, YEAH. 
          I'M JUST ONLY ASKING FOR CLARITY. 
          I'M NOT QUESTIONING. 
          RIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, IF I DON'T QUESTION, THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BRING THAT BACK UP TO ME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT RECLASSIFYING, BUT YOU'RE GIVING, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE OF AN RAISE THAN YES. 
          WHAT NOT GET IN A COLA. 
          EXACTLY. 
          IF, IF THERE'S A COLA GIVEN TO WHERE HE WOULD BE ABLE, IF THERE WERE TO BE ONE TO GO AND, AND MY RESPONSE WOULD BE IF SOMEONE CAME AND QUESTIONED ME, I ELIMINATED A POSITION TO DO IT. 
          I GET THAT. 
          THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT . 
          THEY CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH RAISE IS THAT PERSON GETTING IN THEIR, IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES CHANGE. 
          ARE WE CHANGING THEIR DUTIES? ARE WE JUST PAYING ON PERFORMANCE? I'M GETTING, I'M, I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS OUT OF TRANSPARENCY TO ALL THE WORLD WHO ARE GONNA BE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW DOES THAT FIT IN THE BIGGER PICTURE? SO THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WANNA SPEAK TO IT? YES. 
          SO FOR ME, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, UH, REALLY TOOK ON A LOT MORE. 
          UH, THE GUYS, UH, DID A LOT MORE. 
          WE HAD SOME VENDORS COME IN, YOU KNOW, THE SECURITY PROJECT WE DID, UH, WHEN WE WENT TO EXECUTE THE NUMBERS STARTED GETTING REALLY HIGH. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE IT WORLD I CAN SAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST DO IT IN-HOUSE. 
          AND SO THE GUYS REALLY STEPPED UP. 
          I GOT FOUR INDIVIDUALS, WORKED FULL-TIME FOR ME. 
          UH, THEY, THEY DID EVERY INSTALL IN THIS COUNTY THEMSELVES. 
          UH, CAMERAS, ACCESS CONTROL, UH, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS EXPAND UPON, UH, WHAT THEY CAN TROUBLESHOOT AND FIX NOW ON NOT RELYING ON ANOTHER VENDOR. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M TRAINING MY REPLACEMENTS FOR THE COUNTY JAMES. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING THAT. 
          WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS SALARY WISE IT WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE THOSE, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE YES, SIR. 
          A RAISE BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE, BASED ON WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, BE BASED OFF THEIR PERFORMANCE AND RESPONSIBILITIES, THEY'RE TAKEN MORE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT, BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT LAID OUT BECAUSE I BET YOU EVERY DEPARTMENT CAN FIND, COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GIVEN SOME MORE RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEBODY UNDERSTOOD HOW WE, HOW WE MANAGING THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S WELL WITHIN YOUR, UH, WITHIN YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS DEPARTMENT HEAD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS AND PASS 'EM ALONG. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT AND ANYTIME THAT THERE'S COMES ALONG AT ONE PLACE, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE EFFECT IS ON ALL THE REST OF THEM. 
          SO IN MY, IN MY MY WORLD, 
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UH, I HAVE BUDGETED MORE THAN WHAT SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES MAKE. 
          AND SO THEN WE CAN LOOK AT PERIODICALLY PERFORMANCE AND MOVE THEM CLOSER TO THE TOP OF THE SCALE BASED ON THAT DURING THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S NOT A PERCENTAGE INCREASE. 
          ALL THAT IS, IS WE'RE PAYING THEM BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE WITHIN WHAT THEIR SALARY RANGE IS. 
          EVERYBODY AT MY PLACE DOESN'T MAKE THE TOP OF THE SALARY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR AND YOU'RE NOT CRITICIZED AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD FOR SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, HE JUST PULLED A NUMBER OUT AND GAVE IT TO HIM. 
          NOW GO AHEAD. 
          YOU JUST HIT ON THE POINT I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT THAT CARRIE'S WEIGHT HERE IS THE PAY RANGE ON THE POSITION AND HAVING THAT AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, HAVING THAT ROOM TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I WANTED TO, FOR ME, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS THE, THE SITUATION IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH I YES. 
          ASSUME IT'S LIKE OURS AND YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT ON THAT AND AND WE ADDRESS THAT NOW. 
          YES. 
          RATHER THAN HAVE IT COME BACK AT SOME LATE SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING. 
          IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S, UH, ROOM IN THOSE SALARIES TO CREATE THAT, BE ABLE TO DO IT, THEN ALL IS WELL AND GOOD THERE. 
          IF THERE'S NOT, THERE NEEDS TO BE. 
          YEAH, I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S BUDGET. 
          HE'S BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT. 
          WHEN BRINGING SOMEONE IN NEW, STARTING LOW. 
          I MEAN, WE KNOW WE, WE KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          HE'S VERY NO, I AGREE. 
          SO, BUT IT'S, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CUSHION ALREADY. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AND PUT A HARDER NUMBER TO WHO HE WANTS TO GIVE WHAT TO. 
          YEP. 
          AND THIS, AND I, THIS DEPARTMENT IS SPECIFIC. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN, THIS DEPARTMENT IS DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHERS. 
          YES. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          IT'S ALL ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT AND EVERYBODY HERE NEEDS TO KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE ARE AND HOW WE'RE DOING 'EM. 
          YES. 
          CAN I ASK, HE IS ONE OF THE FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT I WILL SAY WHEN I DO A SALARY KIND OF LOOK RESEARCH THAT HE DOES HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT FALL UNDER THAT RESEARCH. 
          NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 
          DO WE KNOW, WOULD WE ALL RECOGNIZE IT? HAVE WE DONE THIS BEFORE? HAVE WE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE THERE WAS A REDUCTION OF EMPLOYEE THAT INCREASED SALARIES? YES, WE HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS PANDORA'S BOX HAS BEEN OPENED. 
          EXACTLY. 
          BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE ARE VERY CLEAR WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS THE SAME WAY WE WOULD FOR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, COST SAVINGS, IT'S A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER TO ELIMINATE AN ENTIRE POSITION WITH BENEFITS AND ALL OF THAT THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT TO BE ABLE TO ASK YOUR STAFF TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ON A LOWER THRESHOLD OF THE PAY SCALE. 
          HOWEVER, IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE WERE TO DO THAT, THEY COME ALONG AND SAY, WELL, HELL HERE, HERE'S THE JUSTIFICATION RIGHT HERE. 
          YOU DID IT OVER HERE AT THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I WANT TO ELIMINATE ONE JOB AND SPLIT THAT MONEY UP AMONG FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE. 
          UH, I WELL, I WOULD THINK Y'ALL WOULD WELCOME THAT, HONESTLY. 
          I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT'S STILL, IT'S 60,000 IF EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT LOOKED WITHIN YEAH. 
          AND SAID, I CAN CUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A POSITION AND, BUT I WANNA GIVE $50,000 IN RAISES. 
          WELL THEN YOU TAKE COLAS OFF THE TABLE. 
          YOU JUST LET EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD HANDLE THEIR OWN BUDGET THE WAY THEY WANNA HANDLE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST. 
          AND ALSO, WE'RE NOT PAYING BENEFITS ON THOSE PEOPLE AS MORE NO, I GET ALL THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A SYSTEMATIC MANNER, SYSTEMATIC MANNER THAT, THAT MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WE'RE DOING IT THE CORRECT WAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU'RE SKEWING IT OR YOU POTENTIAL FOR SKEWING OBJECTIVITY HERE OF HOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT, IT WOULD DO THAT, BUT SKEWING THE OBJECTIVITY OF HOW A DEPARTMENT IS RAN AND MAKING DECISIONS THAT MAY NOT BE IN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST, I SEE THIS FROM BOTH SIDES AND OF, OF DOING THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN, WITH IT, IT IS A SPECIALIZED, VERY SPECIFIC. 
          I THINK RECRUITING AND KEEPING AND RE RETAINING THE TALENT IS CRITICAL. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO WE WANT MOVE TO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE REQUESTS FOR THE REST OF FUND 10? UH, ARE WE GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON OH, THE IT DEAL THOUGH? YEAH. 
          I, I MEAN, I'M, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF WHAT HE'S DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS IN HOW EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD FIT IN. 
          SO HAS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S MADE A MOTION AS FOR WHAT HE'S DOING. 
          NO. 
          WE MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE APPROVED JAMES'S REQUEST TO SAVE THE COUNTY 60,000. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING 
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YEP. 
          REGARDING EXACTLY CUTTING THE POSITION, BUT RESTRUCTURING A LITTLE BIT TO REWARD PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING REALLY HARD. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          YOU MAKE THE SECOND, SIR. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? YES. 
          YES. 
          I WANT IT TO COME BACK WHEN IT'S DONE SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE THAT. 
          SURE. 
          WE'LL PROVE IT IN. 
          SEE WHERE THERE'S OUTREACH GO IN PRINCIPLE. 
          BUT I WANNA SEE, I WANNA SEE HOW IT GOES SO THAT WAY WE'RE REALLY TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYBODY. 
          YEAH. 
          CURIOUS. 
           THE ONLY OTHER POSITION, I DON'T THINK I HAVE IT IN HERE, BUT PERMITTING THROUGH THEIR, UH, AND I, HE TALKED ABOUT IT IN HIS, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          THEY LOST A $30,000 GRANT TO COG THAT HELPED FUND ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS. 
          SO HE IS LOOKING TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING POSITIONS. 
          HE NEEDS A MOTION TO APPROVE ELIMINATING A POSITION. 
          I MEAN, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA LOWER HIS BUDGET. 
          IT'S A CHANGE IN BUDGET. 
          SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WAL. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO HE'S GONNA REMOVE ONE OF THOSE. 
          HE'S ONLY HALF TWO IN THERE. 
          HE HAS TWO. 
          SO THE FUNDING HELPED COVER ABOUT A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS THAN HALF. 
          HANG ON. 
          WHAT WERE WE GONNA MOVE ONE OF THOSE OVER TO PLATTING, WASN'T THERE? WELL, POSSIBLY YES. 
          FROM THAT SAVINGS, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT PLATING POSITION TO WHERE YES, THE SAVINGS COULD GO HELP PAY FOR THAT NEW POSITION. 
          DOESN'T MEAN THE PERSON WILL GO, THEY WOULD POST THE POSITION AND TAKE APPLICATIONS. 
          WE'RE HANDLING THAT AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S ABOUT A, ABOUT A $75,000 SAVINGS WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE POSITION. 
          JUST FOR CLARITY, THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE DEAL I DID ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION RIGHT HERE AND FOR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE PART OF THE SAVINGS TO HELP FUND A NEW POSITION. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DIDN'T WANT SEE A WHOLE YEAH. 
          LINE OF, I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT THE SAVINGS OUT THERE AND GET SOME SMILES ON Y'ALL'S FACES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M TAKE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. 
           BETTER SHOW UP WITH TACO CA REMEMBER, I, I SAVED A HUNDRED THOUSAND LAST WEEK, SO, OKAY. 
          SO ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE, JUST WE CAN MOVE TO NEW POSITIONS FOR FUND 10. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, ON ITEM I, 
          [I.I. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]
UH, FOR THE NEW POSITIONS. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR A ASSISTANT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION. 
          AGAIN, THIS JASON DID NOT SUBMIT A SALARY AT $50,000. 
          THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A LOW AMOUNT, SO WE INCREASED IT TO 70. 
          I KNOW JASON HAS TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT HE WOULD DO TO TRY TO KEEP THAT COST DOWN, BUT THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF BEFORE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          YES. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IS IF THE FIRE MARSHAL POSITION WERE ABLE TO ASSIST IN THAT, THEN IF THAT WERE AN OPEN POSITION THAT THEY WERE TO BE SOMEBODY TO FILL IN WHEN HE IS NOT THERE OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT THIS, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THIS? UM, IT IS ABOUT 112,000. 
          BUT HE WAS GETTING A GRANT FOR PART OF THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE COULD STILL USE THAT TOO. 
          OH, YES. 
          THE CRI. 
          YES. 
          STILL WE'RE STILL LINE WITH THE GRANT. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'M, I'M TRYING TO GO BACK AND RECIRCLE WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP NOW. 
          AND THAT WAS, IF WE BRING BACK A FIRE MARSHAL AND MM-HMM . 
          THAT IT IS IN THE HOUSE. 
          YEAH. 
          CI SO JUST, WE'LL GO OVER THIS DEAL AGAIN. 
          HE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S OBVIOUS HE NEEDS HELP. 
          UH, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. 
          HOW WE, HOW WE DELIVER THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, UM, I I, I WILL, I'LL SAY THAT I, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE WE APPROVE IT. 
          NOW, JASON DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T CHANGE IT FRIDAY OR ANOTHER DAY, BUT UNDERSTOOD. 
          I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE US ANY MORE JUSTIFICATION. 
          YOU, YOU, YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF, OF THAT. 
          AND SO NOW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO, WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY, COMMISSIONER IS, IS THAT THE REASON I'M REQUESTING A POSITION IS TWOFOLD. 
          ONE OF THOSE IS FOR BACKUP. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION LIKE IN KERRVILLE WHERE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR WAS SICK IN BED AND NOBODY WAS ON, ON DUTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT THE SECOND PART OF THAT, IN, IN MY OPINION, THE MORE IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS JUST THE, UH, WORKLOAD, WHICH I THINK I'VE COMMUNICATED VERY WELL. 
          YEP. 
          THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          SO WE HAVE THAT RANKED AS A FOUR AND I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT UNLESS WE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I THINK THEY ALREADY DID OVER THERE. 
          I THINK THEY ALREADY DID IT. 
          SORRY, I JUST SAW IT THERE. 
          UHHUH? . 
          YEAH. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION WITH A SECOND. 
          SORRY. 
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IT KICKS IT UP AND I DON'T SEE IT. 
          UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION. 
          CARRIE? FIVE VOTE. 
          THAT WAS A COMMITTEE RANKING OF FOUR, BY THE WAY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY'S KEEPING SCORE AT HOME  THE NEXT, UM, ORIGINALLY THIS WAS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE REQUEST FROM JP TWO. 
          UM, I BELIEVE JUDGE GREEN MET WITH COMMISSIONER HOLT AND HE LOWERED THE REQUEST TO A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          IT RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE. 
          THE SECOND REQUEST WAS THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR CURRENTLY GETS A SUPPLEMENT FROM THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUND, WHICH IS FUND 57. 
          THEY ASKED TO MOVE THAT TO FUND 10, AND THAT RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING AS A ONE AS WELL. 
          THE NEXT IS A REQUEST FOR A RAISIN SALARY FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. 
          THIS IS FOR THE CHIEF EXAMINER'S SALARY. 
          UM, IT IS REQUESTED FOR, FOR A $16,019 INCREASE IN SALARY. 
          TOTAL COST WOULD BE 19,470. 
          THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE, AND THAT'S ABOUT A 19% INCREASE. 
          SHE'S WANTING TO RAISE WHO HERSELF? ONE OF HER HERSELF. 
          OH, HERSELF. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, CAN WE, SHE LEFT THE CHIEF EXAMINER JUST SOME, IF I MAY ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          HERE IS, WHAT, WHAT IS HER CURRENT SALARY AT 83,981 AND SHE'S REQUESTING IT TO GO TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE. 
          I JUST KNOW. 
          I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT JOB. 
          THAT'S ALL I KNOW. 
          I DON'T, I DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT JOB. 
          YOU'LL BE PAID. 
          THERE'S A POINT IN MY JOKE HERE IS THAT THAT HAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I'VE BEEN LEASED, EDUCATED ON UP UNTIL THIS PAST YEAR OR TWO. 
          AND PROBABLY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. 
          BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT THERE'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS AND, AND RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD DO THAT JOB, UH, AND DO IT WELL AND BE A GOOD FUNCTIONING DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. 
          UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EFFICIENCIES THAT MAYBE BE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THE COMPLETE RAISE, BUT CAN WE NOT LOOK AT WHAT MAYBE POSSIBLY OTHER, UM, POSITIONS IN OTHER COUNTIES HAVE AND LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT THE MARKETABILITY OF THIS IS HERE. 
          MAYBE NOT 19%, BUT MAYBE LOOK AT IT AT, UH, AND MAYBE A COLOR CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR A MOTION NOW, BUT LET'S JUST KEEP THIS ON THE BACK BURN AND KEEP THIS IN MIND AND THINK ABOUT THIS POSITION AS WE GO FORWARD AND MAKE THAT, IF THAT DECISION CAN BE ADDRESSED IN A COLA, UH, I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MOVE IT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT, UH, THE, THE VALUE OF THIS POSITION IS IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, ESPECIALLY IF PUT INTO A COLA. 
          SO IT'S ALL SAY, DID I POINT OUT, JUST BECAUSE WE PASS OVER SOMETHING NOW AS WE'RE TRYING TO HIT THE HIGH POINTS AND THAT'S THE REASON WE COME UP WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH TOTAL EXPENDITURES, DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN'T REVISIT  AND, AND, AND COMMISSIONER. 
          THAT'S MY POINT. 
          UH, IT IS, AND JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE FUTURE DECISION, WE KEEP THIS ONE IN MIND. 
          UH, NOT THAT IT'S ANY MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER POSITION, UM, IN PLATING OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT, BUT LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES AND LOOK AT THE NEED OF THIS POSITION AND WHAT THE JOB THAT'S BEEN DONE. 
          I THINK THAT NEEDS TO FACTOR IN LOOKING AT WHAT CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH A COLA OR, OR WHAT. 
          BUT THAT BECKY COULD ASK MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, COULD WE CONSIDER THE PERCENTAGE COLUMN ON THE WELL, I SENT YOU AN EMAIL. 
          THIS ONE'S 19%. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          WELL I WROTE 'EM ALL ON MINE SO I COULD TELL YOU. 
          YES, I WILL. 
          BUT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK COLA'S AND WE CAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE OF US KIND OF WIRED DOWN, TYPICALLY I ALWAYS HAVE HONESTLY, COMMITTEE, I'M NOT GIVING YOU OUR TONE, JUST ASKING. 
          YES YOU ARE. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          . 
          I DID WRITE 'EM IN MY BOOK SO I COULD TELL YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BASED ON YOUR LAST COMMENT, 19%. 
          YEP. 
          HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OTHER COUNTIES ABOUT THEIR MEDICAL EXAMINER'S PAY? OR ARE WE ANYWHERE NEAR OR HIGH OR LOW OR, I BELIEVE THIS SALARY, SHE LOOKED, SHE GOT IT FROM JOHNSON COUNTY. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES THIS COUNTY'S SMALLER THAN US. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY CONTRACT AND SEVERAL COUNTIES DO SOMETHING TOGETHER. 
          UM, I KNOW JOHNSON COUNTY OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN US. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE, THIS DEPARTMENT WAS PATTERNED AFTER, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THEY PAID THEIR CHIEF A HUNDRED TIMES OR CHIEF. 
          AND I THINK WHEN YOU, UH, START COMPARING SALARIES WITH OTHER COUNTIES, UM, COMMISSIONER FOR EXAMPLE, 
          [02:30:01]
THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES HAVE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES YEAH. 
          THAT THEY HAVE FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMPARING APPLES WITH APPLES. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF, WHEN YOU START COMPARING SALARIES WITH OTHER COUNTIES. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU THINK JOHNSON'S A LOT LIKE US. 
          WELL, I MEAN THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE COUNTY THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO COMPARE TO DUE TO SIZE WISE, I WILL SAY JOHNSON COUNTY, I USED TO GET PHONE CALLS FROM JOHNSON COUNTY 'CAUSE PARKER COUNTY IN GENERAL PAYS BETTER THAN JOHNSON COUNTY. 
          OUR BENEFIT PACKAGE IS BETTER THAN JOHNSON COUNTY. 
          SO WE WOULD PULL EMPLOYEES FROM JOHNSON COUNTY. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THEIR PAY AND DONE SOME THINGS TO GET IT BETTER. 
          SO THEY WOULD STOP LOSING TURNOVER. 
          AND ALSO, UM, I HAPPEN TO KNOW COMMISSIONER DOWN THERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY PRETTY WELL AND AS I'VE REACHED OUT TO HIM IN TIMES PAST ASKING ABOUT SALARIES, SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN THIS POSITION THAT MAKES THIS SALARY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS. 
          SO THERE'S LOTS OF, LOTS OF VARIANCE IN THERE THAT, LOTS OF FACTORS INVOLVED MORE THAN JUST WHAT THE POSITION PAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE NEXT IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          UM, THIS WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE, FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET, AN INCREASE TO THE CHIEF INVESTIGATOR, WHICH IS A 9.75% INCREASE. 
          THE OTHER THREE INVESTIGATORS, IT'S AN 11.06% INCREASE. 
          THE COUNTY PLANNER POSITION IS 11% INCREASE. 
          AND THE, UM, VICTIM'S ASSISTANT COORDINATOR IS A 10% INCREASE. 
          THESE, UM, INCREASES, RECEIVED A ONE FOR THE COUNTY PLANNER, A ONE FOR THE VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE, AND A 1.2 FOR THE INVESTIGATORS. 
          THE OTHER THING THEY ARE REQUESTING IS FOR CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES TO GO FROM THE BASE PAY PAY OF THE $600 ANNUAL TO THE $900 ANNUAL. 
          AND WE DID NOT GIVE THAT A COMMITTEE RANKING. 
          I WILL SAY MOVING THEM TO A $900 CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE INVESTIGATORS, DOES PUT THEM IN LINE WITH WHAT INVESTIGATORS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD RECEIVE. 
          SO AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE, I'VE ASKED THIS JILLION TIMES THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING ABOUT HAVING STANDARDS FOR CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE IN THE COUNTY. 
          WHAT ARE THEY? UH, THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME AS THE ANSWER. 
          UH, THERE'S 600 AND THEN THERE'S 900, 900 I BELIEVE THERE'S APPS THAT YOU'S USE. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S THE DATA PLAN CHIEF, YOU GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT? I DO. 
          ACTUALLY 32 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          , I REMEMBER WHEN THIS ALL CHANGED. 
          SO ORIGINALLY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SET THOSE TWO RATES. 
          ONE WAS FOR JUST FOR THE PHONE. 
          THE $600, $900 WAS IF YOU HAD A DATA PLAN BACK IN THE DAY, NOT EVERYBODY HAD A DATA PLAN. 
          . 
          AND SO THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE THAT WAS SET BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT 15, 20 YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS. 
          UM, THE REASON WHY MOST OF MY PERSONNEL MAKE, UH, OR UM, HAVE THE $900 DATA PLAN OR THE $900 CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE IS BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THEM TO INSTALL AN APPLICATION ON THEIR PHONE. 
          UH, THE AXON APPLICATION, THAT'S WHERE THEY TAKE THEIR PICTURES FROM. 
          THEY USE THEIR CELL PHONE TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AT CRIME SCENES. 
          THEY CAN USE IT TO RECORD VIDEO WHILE THEY'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY OR RECORD AUDIO. 
          UM, WE ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO RESPOND TO THEIR EMAILS IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT PUT THE EMAIL ON THEIR, ON THEIR PHONE. 
          SO, AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO ANSWER THAT PHONE TWENTY FOUR SEVEN. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE REQUESTED THAT THEY GET THAT PAY. 
          SO THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING YOU FOR THAT, WHICH I'VE HEARD BEFORE, AND UH, YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF REPEATING IT BY THE WAY, THANK YOU. 
          IS UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE THINGS, SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD APPLY TO A LEAD OPERATOR AT YOUR PRECINCT. 
          WHEN YOU CUT A PHONE LINE, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE THE, THE, ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT ALL, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU DO, BUT THEY DON'T GET THIS 'CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT CATEGORY. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THERE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HARD TO SAY THIS POSITION GETS IT, THIS ONE DOESN'T. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOME REASON WHY, UH, THERE'S A JUSTIFICATION THAT I NEED TO BE AT THE HIGHER RATE FROM ANYBODY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. 
          I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE PROBABLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          PROBABLY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE MENTIONING. 
          MAN, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS AND WE'VE ALWAYS, IF WE GET SOME OF THOSE I IDEAS TOGETHER, I BET WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AS A COMMITTEE, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          COURT THE COURT CAN MAKE DECISIONS. 
          I THINK THE, UH, THE MANAGEMENT THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR, FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR THEM TO TAKE UP. 
          UH, GOES IN. 
          AND AGAIN, I GOT A QUESTION ON THE CO-OP DEAL WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE'RE PART OF, I FORGET THE TERMINOLOGY, THE NAME, LIKE WHERE WE PIGGYBACK. 
          [02:35:01]
OH, PEBC. 
          LIKE PB CBC. 
          PBC. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THOSE ARE BIG COUNTIES. 
          DO THEY HAVE DEALS WITH CELL PHONE PROVIDERS? LIKE AT AND T OR I CAN ASK TMOBILE OR YEAH, MY PREFERENCE PATRIOT ACT. 
          THE PATRIOT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DEFINITELY CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO 'EM. 
          WE TALK ABOUT ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 
          MAYBE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE WITH A NEGOTIATED RATE FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME, FIND SOMETHING THERE. 
          ANYBODY WANT TO GUESS ON THE, OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD, HOW MANY CELL PHONE, HOW MANY PEOPLE RE RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT OR ALLOWANCE? JUST ALLOWANCE FOR, FOR CELL PHONE USAGE? HOW MANY DEPUTIES? ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA? YEAH, I'D SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 150. 
          BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT RECEIVE IT. 
          SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS DO BUILDING AND GROUNDS DOES. 
          YEAH, I'D SAY PROBABLY 150 TO 200. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD BE A, A NUMBER THAT ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES MIGHT WANT TO BE INTERESTED IN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          INTERESTED IN? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MOTION MOVE ON. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T TAKE A, WE DIDN'T TAKE A POSITION ON THAT. 
          HANG ONE SECOND. 
          JAMES, IS THERE ANY BENEFIT FROM A IT PERSPECTIVE, A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE? IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU, I'M SORRY. 
          WELL IF I'M READING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORRECTLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOME TYPE OF PACKAGE PHONE PLAN FOR ALL PARKER COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GETTING IT. 
          IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE GETTING AT? YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING YOU LEVERAGING NUMBERS TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL. 
          I GUESS THE, SAY WE COULD DO IT IF WE, IF WE WERE ISSUING THE PHONES, WE COULD KIND OF LIMIT THE APPS AND UH, WHAT EVERYTHING WAS USING OUTSIDE. 
          OUTSIDE. 
          I MEAN, HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH THE PHISHING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          I, PHISHING IS A BAD EXAMPLE, BUT HOW MUCH DOES THAT ADDRESS SECURITY ISSUES? WELL, WOULD THERE BE A SECURITY ISSUE THERE? I THINK IT WOULD BE A DISCOUNT CODE OR AN EMPLOYEE TYPE DEAL WHERE THE PERSON WOULD GET X NUMBER OF DOLLARS. 
          IT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO WHATEVER WAS NEGOTIATED. 
          AND IF THEY WENT TO THAT PROVIDER, YOU GIVE 'EM THAT CODE THEY CHOSE TO STAY WITH AT AND T, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET REIMBURSED, WHATEVER THAT NEGOTIATED RATE WOULD BE. 
          I SEE. 
          WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THIS IT, DANGER AND PHISH AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS AS FAR AS ISSUING PHONES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          NO. 
          NO WAY. 
           ANSWER IS NO, WE'RE NOT SEEING A HUGE UPTICK WITH THE PHONE ISSUES CURRENTLY. 
          NOT THAT AROUND THE CORNER, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CHANGE, BUT, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU JAMES. 
          BOTH OUR PHONES ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THERE IS THAT, THAT DISCOUNT ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO IF THERE'S A BIG DISCOUNT AVAILABLE ON OUR CO-OP PROGRAM WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF PHONES. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE IT'S BETTER RATE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST SAYING WE MIGHT ASK, LOOK INTO IT. 
          I'LL, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. 
          SO I GET THE CO-OP CONTRACT FOR PURCHASING LIKE BY, SO KIM THAT, THAT DISCOUNT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GETTING, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THAT IS? WHAT IS IT? BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT, MINE IS ABOUT $50 A MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          ALSO IN LIKE THEY PREFERENCE IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY SERVICE PROVIDED EVERYBODY ELSE HOW ARE PERFECT. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          SO AFTER NINE 11, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, HAD A COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH A, A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. 
          BASICALLY THEY CALL FIRSTNET. 
          THEY, UH, THE, THE GOVERNMENT IS CONTRACTED WITH AT AND T TO, UM, DEPLOY THE FIRSTNET SYSTEM AND IT ALLOWS FIRST RESPONDERS TO TRANSITION FROM, UH, CIVILIAN CELL PHONE PLAN OVER TO A FIRST RESPONDER PLAN. 
          IT DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW, UM, BENEFITS TO IT. 
          UM, IT IS, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU GET, IT CAN BE A RELATIVELY CHEAPER THAN OPTION FOUR, UH, THAN A CIVILIAN PLAN. 
          SO THERE'S GOOD AND BAD TO IT. 
          FIRSTNET BEFORE WAS PRETTY ROUGH, ROCKY. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE TRANSITIONED TO IT AND THEN GOT BACK OFF OF IT BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICE. 
          BUT AS THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THEIR FIRST NET SYSTEM, UH, IT GETS MORE AND MORE RELIABLE. 
          SO WHO'S THAT THROUGH AT AND T RIGHT NOW? VERIZON HAS A SIMILAR PLAN. 
          UM, IT'S NOT GOVERNMENT PAID FOR GOVERNMENT, UH, PROVIDED, BUT THEY TRY TO MATCH THOSE RATES, 
          [02:40:01]
UM, WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          SO, UH, ALL OF OUR, OUR AIR CARDS FOR OUR, UM, PATROL CARS ARE VERIZON AND THEY'RE THE, THE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTED FIRST RESPONDER RATE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME LITTLE HOCKEY PUCK, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE WIFI DEVICES CARRIED AROUND. 
          THOSE ARE ALL FIRSTNET DEVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT REQUEST FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND AGAIN, THIS DID NOT COME FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THIS CAME FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE'S DISCUSSION OF THE PLATTING DIVISION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT ARE WE TO THE NEED YET TO HAVE A SEPARATE PLATTING DEPARTMENT? ARE WE TO THE NEED YET TO HAVE AN ENGINEER ON STAFF WITH THE COUNTY? UM, THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SPEAK TO, THEY FELT LIKE THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, BUT MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR. 
          BUT THAT PLATTING DEPARTMENT NEEDED ADDITIONAL HELP. 
          SO I DID PUT IN A PRESENTATION, IT DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A THREE TO ADD A CLERK TO THE PLATING OFFICE. 
          SO THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT'S CUTTING A POSITION THAT FUNDING COULD SHIFT TO FUND THIS POSITION FOR THE PLATTING DEPARTMENT. 
          SO HERE'S WHERE WE'RE SITTING IN THAT AS OF TODAY. 
          UH, JAMIE TOLD ME THAT THE EMPLOYEE THERE HAS, YES, THEY'VE HAD THE RESIGNATION. 
          YES. 
          RESIGNED AND WILL BE GONE IN TWO WEEKS MM-HMM . 
          TO, TO RETIRE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE THERE YES. 
          IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN PLATTING. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS THAT. 
          I'M JUST REPORTING WHAT I LEARNED. 
          I I TALKED TO JAMIE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND SHE WAS EVEN CLEARLY THE, THE KAREN IS, YEAH, SHE'S GONNA RETIRE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY POSTED THE POSITION. 
          SO THE INTENT IS TO GET THAT POSITION FILLED AND JAMIE SAID HAVING AN EXTRA PERSON IN THERE WOULD BE AMAZING. 
          I EVEN DID A PROJECTION IN HERE FOR A PART-TIME POSITION AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, COMMITTEE RANKED THAT AT 3.8. 
          SO WE'RE REPLACING YES. 
          SO WE'RE ALREADY GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY NEW IN THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA BE MANAGED. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. 
          I'M JUST SUGGESTING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SHE, SHE SEEMED REALLY ON BOARD TO STILL WANTING SOME EXTRA HELP, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, DID THE COMMITTEE SAY ABOUT MAKING THE PART-TIME JUST A  THREE, THE, UH, IT'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT BE THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT? DID Y'ALL TALK ABOUT THAT? WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK, UM, I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE END GOAL AT SOME POINT WITH A COUNTY GROWING LIKE OURS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING LIKE A COUNTY ENGINEER MANAGING A TEAM OF PEOPLE. 
          AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT A RADIO TOWERS THAT JAMES IS BANGING US OVER THE HEAD WITH THAT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          HE'S NOT EVEN LISTENING. 
          UM, WE, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER EXPENSES RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT SOME POINT. 
          CAN'T GET THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I THINK WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE GETTING REWORKED AND SHANNON'S WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEY ON THAT. 
          ONCE THOSE ARE DONE, WE THEN HAVE BHB DOING SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ON A PASS THROUGH COST TO THE DEVELOPER. 
          THAT SHOULD OFFSET SOME OF THAT NEED IN THE INTERIM. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LONG-TERM FIX, BUT I THINK WHAT TO, TO BOIL IT DOWN TO THIS YEAR, WE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO THIS YEAR, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT THIS YEAR. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A PLATTING DEPARTMENT? NOT, NOT THIS YEAR. 
          NOT CURRENT. 
          NOT THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED. 
          I I KNOW WE DON'T. 
          SO I, I THINK, UH, WE RANKED A THREE BUT THEN WE RANKED A A PART-TIME AS HIGHER. 
          3.8. 
          3.8. 
          I THINK, UH, MAYBE WE NEED TO HEAD FOR THE PART-TIME AND TRY TO APPROVE THAT AND THEN SEE, SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. 
          MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN A SECOND. 
          BUT COMMISSIONER HOLT, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SHE'S GONNA GET A PART-TIME OVER VO. 
          SHE'S STILL GONNA GET ANOTHER YEAH, SHE'S GONNA REPLACE THEN GET, AND THEN WE'LL ADD A PART-TIME. 
          I'LL BE ANXIOUS TO SEE HOW THE PART-TIME IN THAT DEPARTMENT WORKS. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          UM, THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS THE TAX ASSESSOR ASSESSOR COLLECTOR. 
          UM, THE, WHAT DOES SHE WANT THE RE I KNOW ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
          UM, THE REQUEST WAS FOR TWO ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME AND A PART-TIME. 
          IT DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A FIVE FOR ONE FULL-TIME POSITION. 
          THE SECOND FULL-TIME POSITION RECEIVED A RANKING OF A 1.4. 
          THE PART-TIME POSITION RECEIVED A RANKING OF 3.8. 
          SHE 
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CURRENTLY HAS PART-TIME. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE INCREASING THE PART-TIME BUDGET. 
          I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE FIRST FULL-TIME ONLY AS ONE MOTION AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE OTHERS FROM THERE. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. 
          HOLD A SECOND. 
          WITH COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          YOU THE DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? WHERE'S THIS, UH, FULL-TIME PERSON, GARY? SO LET ME, LET ME BEFORE YOU GET UP THERE, COME ON UP. 
          BUT I WANTED TO JUST COVER THIS. 
          WE, UM, BECAUSE WE RANKED THIS LIKE IT IS, WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE WERE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, NOT JUST YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE, ONE, ONE RANKED THIS AND THE OTHER ONE RANKED THAT. 
          THAT WAS IN COMPARISON WITH THE WHOLE WORLD, NOT JUST YOUR OFFICE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I TOLD Y'ALL BEFORE I'LL TAKE ANYTHING I CAN DO. 
          I KNOW THE FULL-TIME POSITION WILL BE HOUSED IN WEATHERFORD, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A SPRINGTOWN DEALER CLERK. 
          SO IT'LL HELP THE BUSY WORK THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN SPRINGTOWN. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S NO MORE SPACE AVAILABLE THERE. 
          SO THE GIRLS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING MORE TRANSACTIONS THAN WHAT WE PREFER ONE CLERK TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE SO BUSY. 
          BUT WITH NO MORE FLOOR SPACE, THIS WILL HELP THAT. 
          I'M TRYING TO WORK ON THAT FOR YOU, BUT I APPRECI THAT. 
          DID YOU HEAR GEORGE? THAT'S SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL IN SPRINGTOWN. 
          I'M NOT GETTING ANYWHERE BUT . 
          SO AT LEAST THIS, THIS WILL HELP THOUGH. 
          WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE SAT HERE AND LOOKED AT IT. 
          WHAT OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING. 
          WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON A PART-TIME POSITION? I'M VERY HAPPY IF YOU GIVE ME SOME MORE MONEY ON A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR CURRENT PART-TIME, I HAVE, UM, A COLLEGE STUDENT. 
          SO SHE WORKS THREE DAYS A WEEK ALL DAY. 
          AND MY OTHER PART-TIME WORKS THROUGH ALL OF OUR LUNCHES. 
          SO IT HELPS US STAY, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON IT. 
          'CAUSE IF WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE WEATHERFORD FOR LUNCH. 
          SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN STEP UP AND DO RENEWALS AND SOME OF THE EASIER TRANSACTIONS, IT JUST HELPS ALL THE CUSTOMERS THAT RUN IN ON THEIR LUNCH HOUR TO DO THEIR TRANSACTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HOW MUCH WERE YOU ASKING FOR ON THE PART-TIME? AGAIN? ADDITIONAL TOTAL COST. 
          28,000. 
          OH EIGHT. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WE WOULD INCREASE THIS SALARY LINES BY 22,750. 
          TOTAL COST IS ABOUT 28,000 FOR PART-TIME. 
          SO MAKE AROUND 16. 
          NEVER RECEIVED THE COMMITTEE RANKING OF 3.8. 
          SO I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THAT, WHICH MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALMAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I FOUR. 
          CURIOUS ABOUT FIVE VOTE NO FOR THE PART-TIMES A 3.8 PAGE OVER NEXT PAGE. 
          YEP. 
          SORRY, NOT THE SUBTLE. 
          ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT IS BUILDING AND GROUND. 
          SO THEY REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THEY CAN COME UP HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, IN THE INITIAL REQUEST, IT WAS REALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING. 
          I THINK SHE'S GONNA TELL YOU IT CAN, THEY'RE GONNA DO MORE THAN THAT. 
          IT DID RECEIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS SALARY INCREASE REQUEST FOR THE DIRECTOR AND THE OFFICE MANAGER. 
          THE DIRECTOR INCREASE IS A 5.76. 
          THE OFFICE MANAGER IS A 3% INCREASE. 
          THAT ALSO RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A ONE. 
          THE DIRECTOR. 
          WOULD THAT BE MR. LONG BE MR. LONG? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WHERE DO WE WANT START? WE GONNA START WITH THE EMPLOYEE. 
          THE EMPLOYEE FOR THE, UH, JANITORIAL STAFF IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED. 
          UH, I'VE GOT A PART-TIME RIGHT NOW. 
          SHE'LL GO FULL-TIME IN UH, OCTOBER ONE. 
          AND THEN I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIRE ANOTHER PART-TIME TO FILL IN. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD A TEXT THIS MORNING AT FIVE O'CLOCK. 
          ONE OF MY FULL-TIME WAS SICK, SO WE HAD TO SHUFFLE AROUND AND GET SOMEBODY ELSE DOWN THE DISTRICT. 
          AND UH, I'VE GOT ONE OUT WITH MEDICAL ISSUES. 
          BUT IT, WE'RE JUST, AND WE'VE MADE CHANGES. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDED EXTRA DUTIES TO SEVERAL OF THEM, INCLUDING THE ONE HERE, UH, TO TRY TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT. 
          BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL REAL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED. 
          I I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, THAT IF WE GIVE A COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE, THIS BUILDING ALONE, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN JUST, IT IS NIGHT AND DAY. 
          THE, THE CLEANLINESS AND, AND THE UPKEEP OF THIS BUILDING IS DRASTICALLY CHANGED. 
          WHERE I'VE EVEN GOTTEN COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE AND SEVERAL COMMENTS, NOT ONLY JUST FROM MY DEPARTMENT, FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SO I MEAN, OR OTHER, OTHER, UH, PEOPLE. 
          UM, BUT IT IS, I MEAN, EVEN JUST SITTING DOWN HERE, CRICKETS WALKING ACROSS AND DEAD CRICKETS EVERYWHERE AND IN THE SINK AND IN, IN THE FLOOR. 
          AND IT'S JUST, I MEAN, EVERYWHERE I GO THERE'S A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THAT. 
          AND, AND WE HAVE CUT THE SERVICE OF THIS BUILDING, UH, DRASTICALLY. 
          AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. 
          IF WE CANNOT, UH, IN MAY OF 2025, YOU TRANSFERRED MONEY FROM THE CONVENIENCE CENTER OVER TO US. 
          SO WE COULD HIRE THE PART-TIME PERSON. 
          WE'RE WILLING TO FOREGO THAT PART-TIME POSITION OUT THERE FOR AT LEAST THE ONE FULL-TIME POSITION AND 
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OUR OFFICE. 
          THAT WAS, YOU JUST CAN'T SPLIT UP AND SHARE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEY DO PART, YOU KNOW, PART-TIME ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND YOU AT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. 
          BUT THE ELECTION OFFICE IS EASY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EASY. 
          WE GO THERE THREE TIMES A WEEK, ELECTION TIMES A WEEK, YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING JUST NOW, WHENEVER YOU START HAVING ELECTIONS IN A LOT OF SCHOOLS, THAT WILL CHANGE. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO ADJUST TO THAT. 
          BUT YOU MADE IT SO THIN NOW. 
          YES. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE, THE SAME AMOUNT, DOUBLE THE WORK AND THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME IS IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT A PLAN. 
          I WOULD ASK THAT THAT ONE THAT'S BEEN GIVEN BY THE COMMITTEE, BE LOOKED AT AGAIN. 
          JUST 'CAUSE IT, IT AIN'T WORKING. 
          SO YOU HAVE A FLOATING NOW TO DO MULTIPLE PROPERTIES OR WHAT'S CHANGED? WE HAVE TWO GIRLS THAT DO MULTIPLE POP, WELL ACTUALLY 4, 5, 5 OF THE GIRLS HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. 
          OUT OF HOW MANY I HAVE NINE. 
          NINE, OKAY. 
          UH, IT OUT OF THE NINE ONE IS PART-TIME. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE USING HER ALMOST FULL-TIME BECAUSE I HAVE ONE OUT ON EXTENDED MEDICAL. 
          AND THEN LIKE THIS MORNING, ONE CALLED IN SICK. 
          UH, SYLVIA RUNS THE TERRITORIAL STAFF. 
          I HAVE DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A BROKEN DOWN ON KIND OF AN AVERAGE LIKE A SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT A PERSON CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO. 
          IT, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE BUILDING. 
          SOME BUILDINGS ARE MESSIER THAN OTHERS. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE THIS ONE . 
          WELL SOME BUILDINGS ARE BIGGER. 
          WHY YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CRICKETS? I'VE ALREADY LINED UP OUR PEST CONTROL COMPANY. 
          OUR PROBLEM IS THE ATTIC HERE. 
          WELL THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO JUST MAKE A POINT OF JUST CRICKETS. 
          WE HAVE CRICKETS THAT MY PRECINCT, I'M TALKING ABOUT OVERALL CLIN. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT OVERALL LY. 
          HOPEFULLY JENNIFER SWEEPS THEM OUT FOR YOU. 
          SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM IN THE ATTIC? IT'S JUST WHERE THEY LIVE. 
          SO WHERE THEY LIVE AND BREED . 
          SO HOW DO YOU GET 'EM OUT THERE? WE DUST IT, DONE IT ONCE BEFORE AND HELPED QUITE A LOT. 
          I THINK THE LIGHTS BEING ON ALL THE TIME ATTRACTS THE CRICKETS HERE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE. 
          UM, YEAH, I I'VE HEARD STORIES FROM JOHN FOREST WHEN THEY WERE IN THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING. 
          THEY HAD TO PUT UH, PALLETS ON. 
          UM, WELL THEY WENT IN DOWN TO KEEP FROM STICKING, STEPPING ON THE CRICKETS, . 
          THEY WERE BAD . 
          I DUNNO HOW TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          POOR CRICKETS. 
          I'LL SAY THIS, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT UH, KIND OF DOING A, A LOOK AT EVERY DEPARTMENT, THIS WAS ONE THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD, UH, PROBABLY USE AS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES AND SAY, OKAY GEORGE, YOU AND THIS GROUP GO, GO TO THIS DEPARTMENT, FIND OUT WHAT ALL THEIR NEEDS ARE. 
          AND, AND SO I'M NOT AT ALL SAYING THAT WE DON'T NEED THIS POSITION HERE 'CAUSE IT'S, I KNOW THAT THEY DO. 
          AND START TRYING TO MANAGE ALL THE, THE PEOPLE HERE AND, AND GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE WHEN PEOPLE ARE SICK AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          HOW YOU MANAGE THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS WHY WE, WE, WE KIND OF GAVE IT A HOLD. 
          WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES AND KIND OF THE AVERAGE AREA THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER AND, AND UH, JUST TAKE AN OVERALL LOOK. 
          I KNOW THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE. 
          I CAN, THERE'S NOT A DOUBT ABOUT IN MY MIND THAT THEY DO. 
          UH, THERE'S NOT A DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED THAT PART-TIME THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER. 
          PROBABLY. 
          YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COVER THAT. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY THAT I, I I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT COMMISSIONER. 
          'CAUSE I'VE HAD ONE DOWN THERE PART-TIME AND IT JUST CAUSED MORE TROUBLE. 
           AGAIN, BACK TO THE PERSONNEL ISSUES I THINK THAT YOU DISCUSSED. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE GOT A ONE THERE. 
          I THINK. 
          AM I I'M ON THE MOTION THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO HIRE ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. 
          AND AT WHAT COST? 77,000. 
          OH 87, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          BECKY'S, IT WAS 77,000 RIGHT HERE. 
          THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY THAT STRIKE THE CAPITAL. 
          CORRECT. 
          IN THIS, I'VE SECONDED THIS. 
          WE, THE DISCUSSION PHASE TRACKS. 
          NO, THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED OF ONE TRACKS. 
          NO, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT COVERED I THINK. 
          YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY COVERED. 
          WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE IF WE APPLY THIS. 
          NO SIR. 
          WE COVERED THIS, SIR. 
          NOT AT ALL. 
          I JUST THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORE EMPHASIS ON THIS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THIS BUILDING THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. 
          THEY MAY BE PER JURY, THEY MAY BE FOR COURT, WHATEVER. 
          AND THIS MAY BE THEIR ONLY IMPRESSION THEY'RE GONNA GIVE FROM THE COUNTY AND THEN THEY'RE, IT'S JUST, IT'S A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE. 
          AND IF IT'S HERE, IF IT'S THAT WAY AND, AND YOU'RE THIN, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTEN SO THIN THAT IT'S HAPPENING HERE. 
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I MEAN THEIR IMPRESSION OF THE COUNTY IS NOT GONNA BE VERY GOOD WALKING IN A BUILDING THAT'S NOT BEING CLEANED LIKE IT SHOULD BE. 
          WELL, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING OUTTA YOU, YOU NEED ANOTHER PERSON. 
          YES SIR. 
          WE, WE DESPERATELY NEED AT LEAST THE ONE FULL TIME AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE LOWEST PAID POSITION IN THE COUNTY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND THE DISCUSSION. 
          NO, THE COST TO THE COUNTY IS 77,100. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF THE SALARY POSITION'S 40,763, THEN ALL OF THE OTHER KICKERS AND BENEFITS AND COST TO THE COUNTY IS ANOTHER $37,000. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH IS ALMOST THE SAME AS THE POSITION. 
          IT'S ALMOST THE SAME AS SALARY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO JUST AS A REMINDER FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, WE ALWAYS BUDGET HIGH ON INSURANCE 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW AND WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE OVER WHAT UNDERSTAND SOMEONE IS GONNA COME IN AT. 
          OBVIOUSLY IF SOMEONE COMES IN WITH EITHER AN OPT OUT PLAN OR MAYBE THEY'RE ONLY COVERING THEMSELVES, THEN THAT TOTAL COST NUMBER WILL COME DOWN. 
          BUT FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, THAT WILL, THAT'S WHAT'LL GO IN. 
          AND THEN YOU MIGHT SEE IT, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A ROLLOVER NEXT. 
          SO HERE IT COSTS US A JANITOR, A $77,000 POSITION AND EXCUSE ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP, BUT THIS IS A $900 CELL PHONE POSITION. 
          DID THEY RECEIVE, WE TEXT AT FOUR 30 IN THE MORNING? NO, I'M, I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP 'CAUSE WE'RE ON, WE'RE ALL ON THAT SUBJECT EARLIER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A $900 REIMBURSEMENT FOR CELL PHONE FOR THIS POSITION. 
          CAN I ASK THIS QUESTION? SO YOU SAID Y'ALL DON'T HAVE PART-TIME MONEY IN THE CONVENIENCE CENTER ANYMORE BECAUSE IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO BILL. 
          IT WAS CORRECT. 
          AND SO IS THAT PART-TIME GONNA NOW HELP PAY FOR THIS FULL-TIME? YES MA'AM. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          SO THE, THE NET IMPACT IS 15,000. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT $17,000 LEFT IN THAT DISPOSAL CENTER SALARY. 
          SO IT, YEAH. 
          SO THAT PART-TIME THAT WAS ELIMINATED GOES TOWARDS THIS POSITION? YES SIR. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. 
          WE HAVE A PART-TIME SHE GO FULLTIME. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER'S OPPOSITION. 
          YEAH, WE CAN, I THINK IT, THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WAS BUDGETED LIKE 22 SOMETHING. 
          SO IF WE MOVE THAT TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE NEW FISCAL, THEN IT WILL HELP OFFSET A LITTLE MORE. 
          HANG ON. 
          WE'VE GOT A PART-TIME THAT'S GOING FULL TIME. 
          23, 2 50. 
          WHAT? AND THEN WE'RE ADDING A PART-TIME. 
          HOW IS THAT NETTING OUT? ANY LESS? YEAH, YOU'RE NOT ADDING THAT. 
          SO PART NOW WE WANNA MOVE FULL TIME OCTOBER AND THEN WE WANT ANOTHER FULL-TIME POSITION. 
          OH NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          SIT DOWN. 
          WE JUST NEED THE ONE POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER SITUATION. 
          STEADY MARK, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A NET ONE. 
          IT IS A NET ONE. 
          IT IS, THERE'S NO OFFSET FROM THE PARTS. 
          SO THEY HAVE CURRENT, SOME PART-TIME MONEY. 
          WE'LL ELIMINATE THAT PART-TIME MONEY TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF A FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CORRECT. 
          BUT THAT'S A ONETIME CHANGE ON THEM. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO BUDGET TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          THIS A I PROBLEM. 
          I WON'T VOTE ON THIS, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK. 
          HEY, REAL QUICK I WANNA MENTION, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE SECURITY, UH, IT'S, THERE'S A BUNCH OF SECONDARY. 
          WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT IT, WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT WHAT IT COST TO FARM THIS OUT. 
          ON SOME OCCASIONS WE DISCUSS THAT. 
          WE, WE HAVE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          MOTION CARRIES FOUR ONE. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR DEAL. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE LUNCH. 
          ARE WE BREAKING? I DON'T KNOW. 
          ALL I KNOW WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T I FIGURE THAT? WHY DON'T, WELL HOLD, HOLD UP. 
          WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, AND RECESS FOR LUNCH. 
          UH, AND COME BACK AT, UH, TRY TO MAKE IT A QUICK LUNCH AT ABOUT, COME BACK ABOUT 10 OR 15 AFTER UH, ONE. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR LUNCH, FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS WAS FOR THE INCREASES TO THE DIRECTOR AND THE OFFICE MANAGER. 
          THE COMMITTEE RANKING IS A ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          DO Y'ALL STILL WANNA, WHAT WAS THE NUMBERS? I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          IT WAS A, I'LL CUT CHASE ON THAT. 
          WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ITEMS LIKE THAT AFTER WE ADDRESS A COST OF LENDING FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO WE'RE DONE FOR TODAY. 
          I'M DONE. 
          I CAN GO. 
          YEP, YOU CAN GO. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          IS THAT YOUR LAST PAGE? IS THAT THE LAST PAGE FOR US? YEAH. 
          FOR YOU. 
          Y'ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          GOODBYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE NEXT REQUEST IS FOR CONSTABLE THREE. 
          THEY ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER DEPUTY. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME THIS MORNING? OH, THAT THEY'RE WITHDRAWING THE REQUEST. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVEN'T HEARD THAT. 
          UH, COMMITTEE RANKING OF ONE. 
          KIM SAID SHE WAS TOLD THEY WERE WITHDRAWING THE REQUEST. 
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GOOD. 
          UM, YEAH, THE NEXT REQUEST COMES FROM CONSTABLE FOR, UM, THE CONSTABLE WAS REQUESTING A FULL-TIME CLERK POSITION. 
          THIS RECEIVED A COMMITTEE RANKING OF A 1.8, A FULL-TIME CLERK. 
          I PUT IT BUDGET 57,797 FOR A TOTAL COST OF 96,825. 
          UM, WE ALSO, SO COMMITTEE RANKED OUT A 1.8. 
          WE THROUGHOUT A, UM, PART-TIME POSITION TO SEE IF MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO START OFF WITH. 
          AND WE DID RANK A PART-TIME POSITION AT A FIVE. 
          WE'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PART-TIME POSITION FOR CONSTABLE FORD'S OFFICE. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS MY VOTE. 
          SO, CLOTHING ALLOWANCE, THE $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS ARE ASKING TO BE PUT ON THE $600 ANNUAL CLOTHING ALLOWANCE AND COMMITTEE. 
          WE DISCUSSED TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          AND JUST LOOKING AT ANYONE WHO CURRENTLY GETS THAT $600 ALLOWANCE TO ROLL THAT INTO SALARY IN EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, THERE WILL BE NO MORE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          WE WOULD ALLOW THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO RECEIVE THE $600. 
          AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST BE ADDED TO, TO THEIR SALARIES. 
          AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S DONE. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE. 
          AND THAT RECEIVED A 3.7. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARK, IS, UH, NON-UNIFORM. 
          WE, WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A UNIFORM THAT SOMEBODY WEARS AND CLOTHING THAT THEY WEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THERE'S A MISNOMER THAT'S BEEN PERCOLATING THROUGH FOR A WHILE. 
          UM, WE, I DON'T CALL IT A, A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT EVER CAME FROM, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED THE $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE, THEY WEAR UNIFORMS TOO. 
          THEY WEAR 'EM FOR OFF DUTY. 
          THEY WEAR 'EM AT THE RODEO. 
          UM, THEY WEAR 'EM WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO WORK SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS. 
          SO EVERY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER AGENCY, I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          THEIR SHERIFF, AIR SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, MYSELF INCLUDED, IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A UNIFORM. 
          AND I HAVE TWO SHIRTS AND TWO PAIR, THREE SHIRTS AND TWO PAIRS OF PANTS HANGING UP IN MY CLOSET RIGHT NOW. 
          I CAN'T FIT IT INTO 'EM. 
          BUT, UM, SO FROM TIME TO TIME, WERE REQUIRED TO, TO APPEAR IN, IN THOSE UNIFORMS. NOW, I HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER ABOUT EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR CLOTHES TO WORK, AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY DO. 
          UM, HOWEVER, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT, UH, ASSISTANT AUDITOR OR HR CLERK OR A COUNTY COURT OF LAW CLERK OR ANYBODY IS GONNA BE GOING OUT AND DOING MANHUNTS. 
          I DON'T, IN THEIR WORK CLOTHES, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING OUT AND, UM, DOING BODY RECOVERIES OR, UH, DEATH INVESTIGATIONS OR RECOVERING STOLEN PROPERTY SOMETIMES. 
          AND SEARCH WARRANTS. 
          SOMETIMES WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME THAT THE GUYS CAN GO HOME, CHANGE CLOTHES INTO A DIFFERENT OUTFIT AND GO OUT AND DO THAT KIND OF WORK. 
          SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          UH, NOW I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER, UM, COUNTY DEPARTMENTS THAT DO DIRTY WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY GET STAINS ON THEIR CLOTHING, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I WOULD LIKE P PAVING PARKING LOTS, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I WOULD ASSUME THAT ONCE THOSE CLOTHES ARE CLEANED, THOSE CLOTHES ARE PROBABLY STILL ACCEPTABLE TO WEAR. 
          THE NEXT DAY IT'LL WORK. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, BUT IT MAY BE. 
          I CAN TELL YOU FOR A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, UM, IF THEY STAY IN THEIR PANTS OR THEIR SHIRT, THAT THEY CAN'T WEAR THOSE CLOTHING ANYMORE. 
          UM, SO THE REASON THAT THIS CAME UP IS BECAUSE WE HAD A REQUEST FOR YET ANOTHER ONE TO BE INCLUDED. 
          AND, UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE, COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF STANDARDIZATION WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, UH, INVESTIGATORS, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE ARE THE TWO THAT ARE LISTED. 
          COUNTY ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS, DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO THAT WE, UH, CAN, CAN JUSTIFY IT TO SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON GETS IT. 
          THIS PERSON DOES NOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY STANDARDIZATION ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ANY OF THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME WAY OF, OF JUSTIFYING OR DENYING. 
          AND WHICH WE HAVE NEITHER RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE, THE, THE OTHER BOXES. 
          I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          IF YOU DO DECIDE TO TAKE IT AWAY, THEN MY ASK WOULD BE THAT YOU ALLOW US TO REIMBURSE. 
          UM, 
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MY, MY INVESTIGATORS, WE WEREN'T TAKING THE MONEY AWAY. 
          WE WERE GONNA ROLL IT INTO SALARY. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT TAKING IT AWAY'S. 
          JUST HERE'S THE MONEY YOU WERE GONNA GET. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOW IN YOUR SALARY. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE, THE EFFORT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          ONE OF THE MAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T, MAYBE IN, IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I'M TALKING TO THE CAMERA HERE, DON'T UNDERSTAND, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A UNIFORM AND WHAT WE CLASSIFY AS A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S BASED ON IRS STANDARDS. 
          UM, UNIFORMS ARE NOT TAXED. 
          SO THE DEPUTIES WHO GET THE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, THEY WEAR THE UNIFORM THE WHOLE 80 HOURS OF THEIR PAY PERIOD. 
          UM, THAT MONEY'S NOT TAXED. 
          THE WHAT WE CLASSIFY AS A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          AND THAT'S FOR THOSE, THOSE, UH, OFFICERS WHO DON'T WEAR IT DURING THEIR NORMAL COURSE OF DUTIES, THAT MONEY IS TAXED. 
          UM, AND THEY TAKE OUT, WE TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, TAXES AND THEN, UM, RETIREMENT, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF 26 PAY PERIODS, ABOUT 18 BUCKS A, UH, PAYCHECK THAT THEY BRING HOME ON THAT CLOSED ALLOWANCE. 
          SO JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE FAIR AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, A STANDARD THAT WE COULD CARRY FORWARD FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE AS I SAID, ONCE WE DO IT FOR SOMEBODY, THEN THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          WELL, I NEED THAT TOO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND SO THEN IT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT POSITION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY, AND WE TRYING TO BE FAIR, UM, I BRING THIS UP IN THE COMMITTEE, BUT MY GUYS WEAR, UH, CLOTHING UNIFORMS, AT LEAST PART OF THEM, PART OF THE UNIFORM. 
          UH, AND THEY PAY FOR IT. 
          THEY, THEY PAY SO MUCH FROM THEIR SALARY, UH, THEIR PAY EACH PAYCHECK. 
          SO WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A UNIFORM SET OF RULES, STANDARDS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A GOOD WHILE EVERY YEAR. 
          SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, NOT MEANING TO SHORTCHANGE ANYBODY. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS NOT SIGNIFICANT UNLESS YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S ON HERE. 
          UH, WE CAME UP WITH A PRETTY HIGH RANKING FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE ASK THAT WAS HERE JUST TO, TO LINE UP WITH THE OTHERS. 
          BUT WE WERE WANTING SOMEBODY TO, TO COME UP AND TELL ME, DO THIS, ADD IT TO SALARY, GET RID OF IT SOMEHOW. 
          WELL, YOU'RE NOT, OR SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT. 
          HEAR ME OR THE SHERIFF COME OVER HERE AND SAY, WELL, THEY GOT IT. 
          WE WANT IT. 
          THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE OPERATE. 
          WE ONLY OPERATE FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO, AND THAT'S, THIS IS NOT THE HILL I'M DONE GONNA DIE ON. 
          SO, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE, WHOLE PICTURE OVER HERE IS WHAT OUR DEAL IS. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DENY ANYTHING. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT, UH, UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE BECKY NEED NEEDING A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE FOR WHAT SHE'S DOING, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A NO FOR HER. 
          BUT IT, IT, THEN THERE'S THE GRAY AREA, RIGHT? YES. 
          NO. 
          OR MAYBE, BUT IF WE PUT IT IN YOUR CHECK, THEN IT'S GONNA COST $18 A PAYCHECK. 
          IT IT'LL COST THE SAME REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU CLASSIFY POTENTIAL. 
          THAT'S IF, IF IT'S FOR, IF IT'S FOR UNIFORMS, IF IT'S FOR THE UNIFORMED OFFICERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY, I THINK UNDER IRSI THINK UNDER IRS RULES, WE CAN'T CLASSIFY IT AS A TAX FREE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO WEAR IT, UM, DURING THE NORMAL COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES. 
          ONLY FOR, LIKE I SAID, FOR SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          NOW, THE $18 WAS HOW MUCH THEY'RE GETTING PER RIGHT. 
          FOUR UNIFORMS. YEAH. 
          OR FOR, FOR CLOTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU TAKE FACTOR OUT TAXES AND ALL THAT STUFF, OUT OF THE, THE 26 OUTTA WHAT THAT STIPEND IS EVERY MONTH IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 18 BUCKS A PAYCHECK. 
          RIGHT. 
          FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE PART OF IT. 
          $600. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S STILL GONNA BE A $1,200 UNIFORM ALLOWANCE. 
          AND THAT WOULD STAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO PUNISH THEM BY TAKING THE MONEY AWAY. 
          WE JUST WANNA ROLL IT INTO SALARY. 
          THAT WAY IT, IT STAYS WITH THAT PERSON, THAT POSITION. 
          IF THEY LEAVE, WELL, THAT $600 IS STILL FACTORED INTO THEIR SALARY. 
          BUT WE'RE JUST SAYING AFTER, ONCE THIS IS DONE AND ALL THAT'S FACTORED IN, THERE'S NO MORE CLOTHING ALLOWANCES. 
          LEMME LEMME JUST POINT OUT REAL QUICK. 
          UM, THE WAY THE SALARY STRUCTURE WORKS IS WE PEOPLE MOVE BETWEEN THOSE RANKS OR THOSE, THOSE DIVISIONS FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          AND SO A DEPUTY WHO COMES INTO INVESTIGATIONS, THEY LOSE THAT CLOTHING ALLOWANCE, BUT THEY ALSO MAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS OR ADDITIONAL MONEY BASED ON WHERE THEY FALL INTO THAT, THAT STRUCTURE. 
          AND SO WHEN THEY TRANSFER BACK AS A DEPUTY, THEN THEY LOSE THAT EXTRA MONEY THAT THEY WERE MAKING PER SALARY AND THEN WOULD REGAIN THAT, UM, UNIFORM ALLOWANCE BACK. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT IN SALARY. 
          I JUST WANNA, 
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THEY'RE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING TAXES ON IT ANYHOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK COMMISSIONER WALDEN HICK QUITE A BIT OF THIS ALREADY, BUT FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, JUST LIKE I WOULD IMAGINE WHEN Y'ALL OVERSEE THE SO BUDGET, YOU'RE LOOKING TO CON, YOU'RE LOOKING TO STANDARDIZE AND CONTROL THINGS THAT YOU CAN CONTROL. 
          SO YOU CAN HAVE BETTER PROJECTIONS YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          FOR US, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THINGS OF THIS NATURE JUST BE COVERED UNDER THE GENERAL SALARY OF THAT POSITION. 
          AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD. 
          NOW, AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY'S WEARING AN ACTUAL UNIFORM AND IT'S GETTING ASPHALT, OIL, BLOOD, WHATEVER ON IT, THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          BUT TO ME, I DON'T, AND, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT Y'ALL HAVE A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE. 
          I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE AS A WHOLE SEPARATE FROM Y'ALL. 
          I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT GO AWAY PERSONALLY ENROLLED IN THE SALARY YES. 
          FOR THOSE POSITIONS THAT HAD IT, THAT THAT WAS WHAT OUR, THAT WAS WHAT OUR POSITION WAS. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, WE WERE GOING TO ADD THE INVESTIGATORS HERE TO THAT. 
          YES. 
          BUT ROLL ALL OF IT IN THE SALARY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH AND RANK IT A 3.7, WHICH IS PRETTY DOGGONE HIGH IN OUR SCALE THERE COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. 
          SO I'M, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UH, INCORPORATE INTO THE BASE SALARY FOR, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS. 
          BUT EFFECTIVE OCTOBER THE FIRST, THAT ROLLS INTO SALARY AND THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE IS ELIMINATED, BUT IT BECOMES SALARY FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY GETTING IT AS A CLOSING LINE. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE 'CAUSE THEY'RE PAYING TAX ON IT ANYHOW. 
          YEP. 
          SECOND, I KIND OF, I'M SHOWING MY IGNORANCE, I GUESS, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE AND UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, IT SEEMS A LITTLE GRAY TO ME. 
          I DON'T HAVE, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WELL, IT'S TAXABLE AND UNT TAXABLE. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF GO BACK TO THINK IF, LIKE, IF YOU HAD A DEPUTY GET OFF WORK, IS HE GONNA GO EAT DINNER AT THE MESQUITE PIT IN HIS UNIFORM? OR IS HE GONNA GO HOME AND HE'S GONNA CHANGE CLOTHES AND THEN GO UP THERE? SO HE'S WEARING A TRUE UNIFORM LIKE CONSTABLE FORD, LIKE THEY ARE CLEARLY IN UNIFORM. 
          THOSE ARE 1200 UNIFORM ALLOWANCES VERSUS SOMEONE I'M JUST GONNA PICK ON MARK. 
          MARK COULD BE AT MESQUITE PITT TONIGHT IN THOSE SAME CLOTHES AND NOBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT HE, YOU KNOW, OH, THAT'S A POLICE OFFICER OR THAT'S A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, OR THAT'S AN INVESTIGATOR. 
          SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SO WHAT, SORRY. 
          NO, SO WHAT TO, TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THAT $600 CLOTHING ALLOWANCE AND YOU CHOOSE TO WEAR THAT INSTEAD OF THE UNIFORM, IT'S SUSCEPTIBLE TO GETTING STAINED THAT NEEDING TO BE REPLACED DURING YOUR COURSE OF YOUR JOB DUTIES. 
          IS THAT WHAT ME? PROBABLY NOT. 
          WELL, I, I, BUT YES, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY THE UNIFORM, THE, THE CLOTHING ALLOWANCE ONLY BAILEY COVERS LIKE C-I-D-C-I-D SPECIAL CRIMES. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, ME AND TWO CAPTAINS WE'RE, WE'RE STILL PAYING IT. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT IT IN SALARY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S REALLY THE NET, THE NET IS NO DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SHORTCHANGE ON THOSE THAT ARE RECEIVING IT. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR ME, AND I APOLOGIZE, THE, THE PREMISE HERE, THE PREMISE BEHIND IT HAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF DEPUTY HAS TO HAVE THE UNIFORM. 
          WE DO OCCASIONALLY WEAR THE UNIFORM. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE GUN BELT, YOU KNOW, THE DUTY GEAR AND STUFF. 
          UM, WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAD TO BUY EVERYTHING BADGE INCLUDED. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT ? WELL, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, TIMES CHANGE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE DFW OFFER THIS, THEN WE HAVE TO TRY TO MATCH. 
          WELL, I UNDERSTAND. 
          OR COME CLOSE TO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO THIS IS JUST THE WAY BACK IN THE PAST TO COMPENSATE THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE HAVING TO PURCHASE AND MAINTAIN THAT EQUIPMENT AND THAT CLOTHING. 
          AND BACK WHEN I ACTUALLY DID GO OUT AND WORK FOR A LIVING, YOU KNOW, WHICH WASN'T TOO LONG AGO, BUT IT WAS, UM, YEAH, IT WOULD VERY EASILY, YOU KNOW, TEAR YOUR PANTS, YOU KNOW, WALKING THROUGH SOME BRIAR'S BRAMBLES, CROSSING THE FENCE, UM, GET STAINS ON 'EM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE PANTS ARE DONE OR THAT SHIRT'S DONE. 
          WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE COMMITTEE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AND I, I SEE HOW IT WAS STORED, SO I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. 
          UH, I'M JUST TRYING, I WAS WILLING TO FOLLOW UP JUST SO I UNDERSTOOD AND I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. 
          SO STAY MARY, SO THAT IF WE CHANGE THIS, WHAT ARE YOU LOSING? I DON'T LOSE ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ONLY THING I LOSE IS THE PERCEPTION IN THE FUTURE FOR POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES THAT 
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WE HAVE A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE FOR, UH, NON-UNIFORM PERSONNEL. 
          IT'LL JUST HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO. 
          IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR BASE SALARY. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT LOSING. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          NO, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALREADY MADE THE MOTION. 
          YEP. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          OKAY, I KNOW THAT'S THE END OF MY PAGES FOR FUND 10. 
          UM, BRIANNA AND I WERE DISCUSSING AT LUNCH, SO IT'S KIND OF SOME CLEANUP STUFF. 
          THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED DURING FISCAL 25, BUT NOT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE THE INCREASE TO SALARY TO THE BUDGET ANALYST POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR IN BUDGET, LIKE AROUND 85. 
          Y'ALL MOVED IT TO 110. 
          WE JUST NEED A MOTION FOR IT TO CONTINUE TO BE BUDGETED AT 110 FOR FISCAL 26. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE. 
          FIVE. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          AND THEN ALSO JP FOUR BROUGHT TO COURT THE SUPPLEMENTS TO COME FROM THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUND, JUST LIKE JP, I BELIEVE TWO AND THREE HAVE, THAT WASN'T DONE DURING BUDGET, THAT WAS DONE MIDYEAR. 
          AND WE JUST WANT TO GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT SUPPLEMENT FROM THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUND FOR FISCAL 26. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLLEY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I, CAN I CLARIFY UHHUH , SO JP TWO FOR EXAMPLE, ASKED TO SHIFT THAT FROM THE TECH FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? WHICH THE COMMITTEE SCORED VERY LOW. 
          YES. 
          THIS MOTION DOES NOT SUPPORT SHIFTING IT FROM THE TECH FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IT SUPPORTS USING THE TECH FUND, RIGHT? IT, IT CURRENT, IT WAS APPROVED MID-YEAR FROM TECH FUND. 
          THEY JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THAT. 
          SO ANYTIME IT'S APPROVED MID-YEAR, WE JUST LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, CROSS OUR T'S AND DOT OUR I'S THAT IT'S APPROVED FOR FISCAL 26. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE? CAN WE MOVE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES? MAYBE ? SO, SO WHAT, WHAT WE ASKED FOR A WHILE AGO BEFORE WE RECONVENED WAS GIVE US AN UPDATE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF, OF THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE ON. 
          YEAH. 
          TIME FRAME DEADLINE TYPE DEAL. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY AND I, I KNOW THAT, BUT WE PROBABLY COULD USE A REFRESHER ON THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE RAISES THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION FOR THE DISTRICT JUDGE SUPPLEMENTS, THE CCL INCREASES AND THE INCREASE TO THE COUNTY JUDGE SUPPLEMENT. 
          UM, BRIANNA'S GONNA GO OVER THOSE NUMBERS, WHAT THOSE INCREASES ARE GONNA GO TO. 
          AND ALSO THOSE INCREASES ARE SET TO ATTE TAKE EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SAY OVER THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OH, I'LL GO OVER THE CALENDAR FIRST BEFORE WE ARE ON CALENDAR. 
          JUST TO, JUST TO REFRESH EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY'S FULLY AWARE. 
          SO ON MONDAY THE 26TH, THERE WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THEN THE VOTE FOR THE PROPOSED ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES WILL BE ON THE 26TH, UNLESS, WHICH THAT DETERMINATION WOULD NEED TO BE MADE BEFORE FRIDAY FOR THE AGENDA. 
          IF IT'S NOT MADE, THEN UM, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO BE THAT NEXT DAY ON THE 26TH. 
          YES. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, AND I GUESS TO KIND OF BACK UP, SO, UH, LILA AND I LOOKED AT THE, UM, REVIEWED THE CODE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT IS OVER THIS SALARY GRIEVANCE PROCESS. 
          UM, SO CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEONE DID FILE IT. 
          SO AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S UM, STRICT DEADLINES OF WHEN, UM, ACTIONS HAVE TO BE TAKEN, UM, AGENDA POSTINGS AS WELL AS NEWSPAPER POSTINGS. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES IN THE EVENT THAT HAPPENS. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS, BUT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT. 
          SO ON FRIDAY'S AGENDA, IT WILL BE TO CHOOSE THIS COMING FRIDAY'S AGENDA. 
          IT WILL BE TO CHOOSE THE, UH, SALARY GRIEVANCE, UM, PROCESS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF IS IT NINE PUBLIC MEMBERS, UM, WHICH ARE SELECTED RANDOMLY FROM THOSE THAT SERVED IN THE GRAND JURY, UM, IN THE PRIOR CALENDAR YEAR. 
          OR, UM, IS THAT MADE UP OF THE SPECIFIED ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY NOTED BY STATUTE AND THEN THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO MAKE UP, UH, THE REST OF THE NINE MEMBER PANEL. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE WAY I PREFER IT. 
          SO THAT VOTE WILL BE ON FRIDAY, RIGHT? YES. 
          FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN ON MONDAY, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 
          [03:20:01]
PROPOSED BUDGET, VOTING ON THE PROPOSED ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT WILL THEN BE TO ACTUALLY, UM, SINA WILL PROVIDE, UM, LILA WITH THE NAME OF THE GRAND JURORS AND THEN THEY WILL BE SELECTED AT RANDOM, UM, TO IDENTIFY WHO THOSE MEMBERS ARE. 
          AND THEN ALTERNATES. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, IF, YOU KNOW, IF IT WENT TO IT AND SOMEONE WASN'T AVAILABLE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ALTERNATES TO BE ABLE TO HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING IF NEED BE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ON MONDAY THE 25TH? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          BUT WE'RE SET UP FOR THE 20 IS THE OPTION ON FRIDAY, CORRECT? YEAH, CORRECT. 
          OPTION FRIDAY, MONDAY ACTUALLY SELECTING, AND THEN I GUESS WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY WHETHER, UM, I GUESS FOR MONDAY TO HAVE A SPECIAL AGENDA IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, UM, WAS A SPECIAL AGENDA FOR, FOR BUDGET. 
          AND AT THAT TIME, THAT'S WHEN THE VOTE ON THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES WAS, IF NOT, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO BE THAT TUESDAY MORNING AT THE LATEST. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT, UM, BIANCA WILL PUT TOGETHER THE LETTERS AND PROVIDE IT TO THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, BASICALLY THE CLOCK TICKS OF, YOU KNOW, FILED. 
          SO WE ARE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET ON TUESDAY THE 26TH. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE DROP DEAD DATE ON OFFICIAL, ON ELECTED OFFICIALS IS THE 26TH AS WELL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          AM I A COUPLE TIMES, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I THINK I'VE SAID THE 25TH INSTEAD OF, OR THE 26TH INSTEAD OF THE 25TH. 
          SO IS IT MONDAY THE 25TH? YES, THAT, YEAH, MONDAY THE 25TH. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT'S THE REGULAR COURT. 
          MONDAY THE 25TH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET DURING ROGER COURT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A BUDGET AGENDA, WHICH WE DID BEFORE, TO VOTE ON THOSE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES ON THE 25TH. 
          IF WE DON'T, THEN WE NEED A SPECIAL COURT THAT NEXT DAY ON THE 26TH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          SO I GUESS WE COULD EITHER DO IT EITHER WAY, KIND OF HAVE THAT, OR IF WE RECESS AND THEN RECONVENE THE NEXT DAY SHOULD WE NEED IT, THAT THAT COULD BE AN OPTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT ON THE 25TH. 
          YEAH, I MEAN THAT DOES ALLOW, YOU KNOW, TIME TO PUT THOSE LETTERS TOGETHER AND KIND OF START THE CLOCK. 
          UM, AND THEN THE NEXT THINGS THAT WILL COME UP IS THE VOTE ON THE PROPOSED. 
          UM, I KNOW WHAT MY PROBLEM IS LAST YEAR VERSUS IS THIS YEAR I HAVE SOME OF, YEAH, I'M READING THE WRONG COLUMN . 
          THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, THIS IS NOT YES. 
          LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE. 
          YOU SAID ON THE 25TH PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, 26TH FOR THE 25TH VOTE ON ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES. 
          YES. 
          29, YEAH, THE 26TH AND THEN NINE, EIGHT. 
          I'M LOOKING IN THE RIGHT COLUMN NOW. 
          SORRY, EVERYONE. 
          NINE FIVE IS VOTE ON TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE ON 9 16, 9 17 OR NINE 18. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN ADOPTION OF 9 22 AND TAX RATE ON THE 22ND OF SEPTEMBER. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          BRIANON. 
          SO ON OUR PREVIOUS ONE WE HAD AGREED THROUGH THIS FRIDAY WOULD BE NINE 30. 
          AND THEN THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, UH, WOULD BE ANOTHER BUDGET SESSION AT 9:00 AM SO, WELL, IF WE NEED IT, I MEAN, MAYBE WHAT I THINK WOULD BE GREAT IS IF WE JUST HAVE A BUDGET AGENDA FOR MONDAY, KIND OF LIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY MM-HMM. 
          THE PRIOR YEAR AFTER WE FINISH THE REST, AFTER WE FINISH REGULAR COURT, HAVE IT STARTED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE PUBLIC HEARING HAVE AN AGENDA THAT STARTS AT ONE IF WE NEED TO, THEN YOU COULD RECESS THAT AND THEN COME BACK ON TUESDAY INSTEAD OF HAVING, ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL SCHEDULE THE MEETING ON TUESDAY JUST AS A, AS A BLANKET. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST IN CASE ANY, UH, ANY AGENDAS ON MONDAY? I HAVE TO POST TODAY IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT TOMORROW. 
          I'LL BE POSTING FOR TUESDAY. 
          NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS NAILED DOWN. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT TIME DO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT? WELL, IT'S, IT IS A NORMAL COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. 
          SO, UH, SAY ONE O'CLOCK WE CAN JUST, WE, WE, WE WILL SET UP A BUDGET FOR ONE O'CLOCK. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? YEAH. 
          AND THEN SO SET THAT UP AT ONE FOR MONDAY. 
          ONE, ONE. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN IF NEED BE, IF WE DON'T GET THROUGH, WELL IF WE DON'T GET THROUGH IT, WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, COME BACK ON THAT SAME AGENDA THE NEXT DAY. 
          SO THE, THE, INSTEAD OF JUST TAKE A RECESS, LEMME TALK ABOUT A A THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 25TH AND NO LATER THAN THE 26TH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES. 
          BUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS 
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HANGING OUT THERE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY COMPLETED BY THE 26TH. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          AS FAR AS JUST OTHER, I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER THINGS RIGHT. 
          THAT NEED TO WORK THROUGH. 
          SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AGENDAS. 
          BUT YES, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING NEXT WEEK WE COULD TALK ABOUT FOR THE, THE FOLLOWING. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE WHITTLING DOWN PRETTY REASONABLY HERE NOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE ENTIRE BUDGET BY MONDAY OR TUESDAY. 
          THAT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS TO BE ON MONDAY AND THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES HAVE TO BE VOTED ON NO LATER THAN 26TH ON TUESDAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE HANGING OUT THERE CAN COME BACK AFTER THAT. 
          AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, DURING THE COURT, MAYBE ON MONDAY, UM, IS TO LOOK AT THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, THAT WAY WE JUST KIND OF HAVE THE, UH, NOTICE AND EVERYTHING READY. 
          SO WHEN THERE IS THAT VOTE ON IT, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER BECAUSE ON THE TAX RATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IT'LL BE A QUICK DEADLINE TO GET IT TO THE DEMOCRAT SURE. 
          FOR THE 10TH FOR THEN THAT NEXT WEEK. 
          SO, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY. 
          DEMOCRAT AND COMMUNITY NEWS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I CHANGE THAT. 
          I JUST, I KNOW THAT THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LOOKED AT THAT. 
          'CAUSE WHAT HAD BEEN, I KNOW APPROVED PREVIOUSLY IF WE CAN MEET THE, UM, PUBLICATION DATES. 
          SO LIKE FOR THAT ONE, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PUBLICATION DATE BECAUSE THEY ONLY PUBLISH, I WANNA SAY ONE TIME A WEEK. 
          AND THE WAY SOME OF THESE ARE VOTED, IT'S VERY QUICK. 
          QUICK. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          'CAUSE NORMALLY EVEN, UM, THE DEMOCRAT REQUIRES, I WANNA SAY LIKE THREE BUSINESS DAYS FOR SOME THINGS AND OTHERS. 
          AND SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO KIND OF, UM, LET THEM KNOW SOME OF THE NOTICES AND THEN GETTING IT TO THEM THEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE'S. 
          THE REASON I WANT YOU TO GO OVER THAT IS 'CAUSE I, I MEAN WHAT HAS PRESSURE ON IT AND WHAT CAN BE DONE LATER SO WE CAN, THERE'S NO PRESSURE ON US TO GET EVERYTHING DONE TODAY OR FRIDAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THINGS. 
          SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OR WANT TO INVESTIGATE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MONDAY OR TUESDAY IS NOT A DEADLINE FOR THE TOTAL BUDGET. 
          CORRECT. 
          IS THAT FAIR? YES. 
          YES. 
          'CAUSE I THINK BECKY'S GONNA HAVE US WRAPPING IT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO NEXT IS GONNA BE JUST THE TALK OF THE INCREASES FROM THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO IT'S GONNA TAKE THE DISTRICT JUDGE'S SUPPLEMENTS FROM 18,000 TO 25,000. 
          IT'LL TAKE THE CCL ONE. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING BRIANNA AND I HAVE POURED OVER  LIKE THESE, THESE NOTES AND INSTRUCTIONS. 
          THE CCL ONE SALARY WILL GO FROM 180 5 4 22 TO 199,000. 
          CCL TWO WILL GO FROM 1 93 4 TO 234,000. 
          YES. 
          AND THE COUNTY JUDGE CURRENT SUPPLEMENT IS 25,200 AND IT WILL INCREASE TO 37,800. 
          AND THESE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE PLACE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER ONE. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, WE DID MOVE TO IE ON SALARIES ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          SO, SO, UM, ALL OF THESE, LIKE THE MINIMUM SALARY FOR THE CCL JUDGES IS BASED OFF OF IF THE COUNTY CHOOSES TO, UH, PAY THE FULL SUPPLEMENT TO THE DISTRICT JUDGES OF 25,000. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ACTION TO BE TAKEN. 
          'CAUSE THEN THAT START STARTS THE MINIMUM SALARIES FOR THE CCL JUDGES. 
          AND THEN ONE THING THAT, UM, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE EACH YEAR IS THAT'S THE MINIMUM SALARY, UM, REQUIRED BY STATUTE. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF, UM, INCREASE COLA TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEN WE WILL, UH, ASK ABOUT THOSE SEPARATELY. 
          UM, AND AS WE'VE HANDLED THOSE PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S SUPPLEMENTS. 
          AND I ONLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THE COURT APPROVED A DA SUPPLEMENT SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DA'S PAY IS EQUAL TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S PAY. 
          SO I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM, HE HAS, HE HAS SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY OF HIS ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENT. 
          HE WILL GIVE THAT OUT TO STAFF THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. 
          HE WILL ONLY IF THERE IS A COLA TO ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WILL BE ACCEPTED AND THEN WILL TAKE THAT FINAL NUMBER AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE DA SUPPLEMENT. 
          BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE DA SUPPLEMENT TO BE DRASTICALLY REDUCED. 
          YOU KNOW, WHY LAUGHING? DON'T YOU?  YOU'S GONNA TAKE THAT MONEY AND SPREAD IT OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M JUST UM, RECOGNIZE THAT WE JUST NEED TO NEED TO KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA BE. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH WE WILL YEAH. 
          DOESN'T TAKE THE BUDGETARY OF THE SURE. 
          THE SALARIES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO AS BECKY MENTIONED, THESE TAKE EFFECT, UM, SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
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AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SOME BUDGETARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR THAT, UM, IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET. 
          AND SO AGAIN, WE WILL LOOK OVER THESE NUMBERS. 
          I PUT 'EM TOGETHER WHILE WE ARE IN COURT THIS MORNING. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I WAS SHOWING IS IF THE COURT APPROVES THE, UH, SALARY SUPPLEMENT OF 25,000 TO THE DISTRICT JUDGES AND THEN THOSE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SALARIES, THEN IT WOULD BE $6,658 FOR, UH, TO START SEPTEMBER ONE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR THOSE. 
          SO TELL ME WHY, WHY DOES THE COUNTY EVEN GIVE SUPPLEMENTS TO THOSE DISTRICT JUDGES AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? WELL, NOT, I GUESS NOT THE COUNTY. 
          THE, THE SUPPLEMENT FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE STATE. 
          UM, ALL THE STATE GIVES 'EM, BUT DON'T WE GIVE 'EM A SUPPLEMENT TO, WE GIVE THE DISTRICT JUDGES A SUPPLEMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE STARTED GIVING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY A THE SUPPLEMENT. 
          UM, ONE THING TO ALSO KEEP IN MIND, UM, I THINK I HAD MENTIONED IT, UM, WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THOSE REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS AND HOW I HAD INCREASED THE STATE SALARY SUPPLEMENT LINE. 
          UM, BUT FOR THOSE CCL JUDGES WE RECEIVE, CURRENTLY WE RECEIVE 84,000 GOING FORWARD, WE'LL RECEIVE 105,000 AND THAT'S FOR EACH OF THEM TO HELP OFFSET, UM, THOSE SALARY COSTS. 
          SO THE, I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE GAVE THE DISTRICT JUDGE JUDGES A PAY RAISE. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE CCCL JUDGES A PAY RAISE. 
          THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. 
          THE COUNTY JUDGE, A PAY RAISE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. 
          A PAY RAISE AND, AND COUNTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF THESE IS, UM, THESE OTHER SALARIES ARE BASED ON A BENCHMARK SALARY, WHICH IS THE DISTRICT JUDGE SALARY. 
          AND SO THEN IT KIND OF TRICKLES DOWN. 
          LIKE A LOT OF THESE ARE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT BASE, UM, SALARY FOR A DISTRICT JUDGE. 
          AND SO I BELIEVE IT WAS 20, I'M TRYING TO THINK, 2014 WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS MAYBE, MAYBE. 
          I THINK THAT WAS THE REASONING I WAS GIVEN FOR HOW LARGE SOMETHING. 
          SO I I'M, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA PICK ON ANYBODY, BUT SAY, UH, UH, HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY THE DISTRICT JUDGES ARE GOING TO BE? THEIR SUPPLEMENT HAS INCREASED HOW MUCH? 25,000. 
          UM, 25,000. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IS SEVEN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT PICKING ON THOSE, BUT JUST, I'M JUST ASKING. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S, SO THERE, THEIR, THEIR SUPPLEMENT INCREASED 25,000 FROM THE STATE, UH, INCREASED BY 7,000 CURRENTLY. 
          UM, WE PAID 18, IT INCREASED TWO, IT INCREASED BY TWO 20. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THE INCREASE IS 7,000. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT, THAT MAKES A TOTAL, TOTAL SUPPLEMENT FROM THE STATE. 
          SO I'M ASKING FOR THOSE OR ANY OTHER POSITIONS, UH, WE'RE GETTING MORE FROM THE STATE. 
          ARE WE REQUIRED TO PASS THIS ALONG OR ARE WE, DOES THAT HELP PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE? I MEAN, I MEAN ON THE CL JUDGES, YES. 
          THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE THAT THERE IS A MINIMUM SALARY. 
          THAT POINT, I THOUGHT I READ THIS CORRECT SOMEWHERE THAT YES, THE MONEY THAT THEY SEND US, BECAUSE IN THERE'D BE A LOT OF COUNTIES THAT WOULDN'T DO IT IF MM-HMM. 
          OTHERWISE, SO, SO EVERY HOW MUCH THE, THE CL JUDGES, HOW MUCH DID THEIRS GO UP? UM, SO EVERYTHING, THE WAY THE STATE DOES IS IT'S ALL BASED ON LONGEVITY. 
          SO YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          AND SO BASED ON, UM, YEARS OF SERVICE, AND AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THE STATUTE'S VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE THOSE YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA CHECK THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE, FOR CCL JUDGE ONE, THE INCREASE WOULD BE 13,578. 
          AND THEN FOR CCL TWO IT WOULD BE 40,600. 
          AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE NUMBERS? UM, THE INCREASE FOR CCL ONE IS 13,578 AND THEN CCL TWO 40,600. 
          SO I SAID, COULD WE DO THE SAME THING FOR YEARS OF SERVICE, GIVE RAISES TO COMMISSIONERS OR NO. 
          OR EVEN THE CLERK OR, I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT, HOW YOU SET SALARY POLICIES OR AGAIN, WE HAVE A LONGEVITY POLICY. 
          SO IT'S LOOKING AT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          I DO KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, I THINK UN, UNLESS THEY HAVE A FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT'S JUST PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN US. 
          UH, WHICH COUNTY IS IN IT'S HAYES? NO. 
          YEAH, IT IS HAYES COUNTY. 
          HAYES COUNTY HAS A RANGE, IT APPEARS ON THEIR WEBSITE OF 99,000 FOR TWO COMMISSIONERS, 
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111,000 FOR ANOTHER COMMISSIONER AND 1 25 FOR THE LAST COMMISSIONER. 
          SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME KIND OF A LONGEVITY TYPE DEAL THERE THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OURS IS. 
          HOWEVER, IT'S BASED ON THE, THE, THE TIME THAT'S BEEN THERE. 
          SO MAYBE SOMETHING WE WANNA LOOK AT IN, IN ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS TYPE TYPE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO GOOD, GOOD INFORMATION THERE. 
          AGAIN, WHEN YOU START COMPARING THIS WITH OTHER COUNTIES THOUGH, THAT IS GOOD TO HAVE THAT RANGE IN THERE. 
          BUT ALL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DON'T DO THE SAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          LIKE IF THEY HAVE A, SOME OF 'EM DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, CREWS OR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A UNIT ROAD SYSTEM, THEN THEY DON'T OVERSEE THAT. 
          I MEAN, THEY MAY OVERSEE IT, BUT NOT, NOT LIKE WE DO. 
          SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE WHERE THEY HAVE A UNITARY, UH, ROAD SYSTEM. 
          RIGHT, GEORGE? ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, I, I HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF OF, I HAD BECKY TO GIVE ME A LIST OF THE, THE SALARIES AND I ACTUALLY HAD TWO COPIES AND I GAVE THEM AWAY OVER HERE. 
          BUT I, I'LL TRY TO BRING, I'LL TRY TO PRINT OUT SOME MORE AND HAVE THEM ON FRIDAY SO EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT 'EM. 
          IT WAS A VERY, IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL BECAUSE IT, IT LISTS THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM AND, AND WHO'S GONNA MAKE WHAT. 
          AND, AND, UH, IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FOR MAKING DECISIONS. 
          I THINK I'LL SAY ON THAT, IT PROBABLY IS GONNA HAVE A HIGHER SALARY FOR THE CCL ONE. 
          'CAUSE AS WE GO BACK THROUGH AND REREAD THESE, IT'S ALL BASED ON THAT YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          AND SO THE ONE, THIS NUMBER HERE IS LOWER THAN WHAT I ORIGINALLY AND THE NUMBER I SEE. 
          YES, YES. 
          QUITE A BIT ACTUALLY. 
          YES. 
          AND ACTUALLY, AND ALSO ON THERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE JP SALARY MM-HMM . 
          UM, ALL FOUR JPS MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT. 
          I OBVIOUSLY MISSED A DIGIT ON JUDGE MILES . 
          OH, OKAY. 
          HE MAKES MORE THAN 10,000 A YEAR . 
          SO TWEAK THAT A LITTLE BIT AND RESEND IT. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? I WILL, AND COULD YOU SEND IT JUST ABSOLUTE SEND IT TO ALL OF I'LL SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL. 
          SO I GUESS WITH THIS, UM, IF WE AREN'T, IF Y'ALL AREN'T MAKING A DECISION TODAY, UM, OBVIOUSLY MONDAY'S THE DEADLINE, BUT THAT WAY, UM, WE KNOW FOR PAYROLL PURPOSES AND THEN TO MAKE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, THAT WAY WE CAN ADJUST THOSE THROUGH THE END OF THE OKAY. 
          END OF THE YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THE ONLY THING WITH, WELL, NO, THIS WILL BE 8 29 THAT WE'RE, BECAUSE IT'S THE EIGHT 20. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, THIS WILL AFFECT, NO, IT'LL AFFECT THE NEXT MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF WE, AT LEAST MONDAY. 
          SO YOU WANT MORE, DO YOU HAVE, I WAS ASKING YOU, HAVE YOU GOT MORE BRIANNA? OH, IS THIS YOURS I'M TAKING, SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, WE, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO GET KINDA LATE AND THAT'S LIKE THE SALARIES OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THE, SOME OF THOSE COURTS THAT WHERE WE DON'T SET THE SALARIES THAT OTHERS DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          COURT REPORTERS, UM, THE PURCHASING BUDGET AND THE AUDITOR'S BUDGET, WHICH I BELIEVE Y'ALL'S MEETINGS ARE SET. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          KIM'S IS FRIDAY AND MINE IS NEXT THURSDAY. 
          NO, SORRY, NEXT WEDNESDAY THE 27TH. 
          SO WHAT ABOUT, UH, OTHER FOLKS SAY LIKE COURT REPORTERS AND WHEN THAT'S, THAT IS AT THE SAME, UM, WITH MEETING AS, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE MEETINGS PRIOR TO THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON EVERYBODY SO THAT WE HAVE A BIGGER PICTURE. 
          UM, THE WHAT ABOUT JUVENILE, UH, SALARIES? THAT THERE, THAT IS ALREADY SET. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT FOR THE DIRECTOR AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE PROBABLY NEED COPIES OF THOSE FOR FRIDAY SO WE CAN, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FITS IN THE BUDGET, I GUESS. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT RIGHT DOWN AND WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT OR REJECT IT. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST A NOTIFICATION. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          I MEAN IT'S BASICALLY PROVIDED TO THE COURT, SO YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF FUNDING TO PROVIDE. 
          AND SO IT'S REALLY THAT, UM, THE BOARD SETS THE SALARIES AND EXPENSES OF IT. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING IS IF YOU'RE REJECTING IT, THAT, UM, THEIR DISCRETION HAS BEEN ABUSED IS BASICALLY KIND OF, OF WHAT THE THRESHOLD, I GUESS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OPINION ON THAT. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS WHATEVER THE JUVENILE BOARD TELLS US THEIR SALARIES ARE GONNA BE, WE HAVE NO, NO INPUT AS TO WHAT THOSE WOULD BE. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO FUND IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SALARIES THAT THE BOARD SETS THE SALARIES. 
          THEY ARE, WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING AT ME FOR THE BUDGET? THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THE, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, HIRING AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO I WOULD ASK THAT, THAT 
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WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR US ON FRIDAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT WE FROM THE JUVENILE BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WE HAVE I COPIES OF THOSE PROVIDED TO US. 
          I'VE SEEN THEM AT LEAST BY FRIDAY. 
          YEAH, I'M SURE, JUDGE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN 'EM, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY HAD THEIR MEETING FRIDAY, SO WE'LL, SO YEAH. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT, IT'D BE GOOD IF WE HAD THEM. 
          OKAY, SURE. 
          WE'LL TAKE IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO FROM THIS POINT, IF WE WERE, THE REASON I WAS KIND OF QUESTIONING YOU FROM THIS POINT, IF WE WERE TO, UM, UH, LET YOU, UH, FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE TODAY YES. 
          SEE WHERE WE ARE, BIG PICTURE. 
          YES. 
          AND BRING THAT BACK TO US ON FRIDAY, THEN ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL TO US FOR MAKING ADDITIONAL DECISION TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN COMPARISON WITH FUND, WHERE WE'RE AT VERSUS FUND BALANCE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD CALL. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT REASONABLE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE, IS THAT REASONABLE JUDGE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          FRIDAY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION TODAY OR FRIDAY? HEY, IT DOESN'T MAKE US IN DIFFERE, I DON'T THINK. 
          WHY DO WE GET THAT ONE OUT OF THE WAY? I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION. 
          WE SPLIT THAT, UH, FORMULA FOUR WAYS QUARTERLY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE GONNA TALK TO, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 
          WE HAD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          MS. BOAT COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          HOW, UH, HOW MANY ROAD MILES DO YOU HAVE? 320. 
          EVEN WITH YOUR MADE UP NUMBER. 
          I GOT YOU BEAT BY 110. 
          YEP. 
          AIN'T NOTHING OUT THERE. 
          GET 'EM. 
          GRANDMA. 
          ME, MOM. 
          . 
          WHAT THE HECK? WHAT? OH, YOU DIDN'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S HER NICKNAME. 
          I, I MIGHT HAVE BEEN OFF A LITTLE ON THAT NUMBER, BUT NOT MUCH. 
          NOW THAT SHE'S, NOW THAT SHE'S PASSED, NOW THAT SHE'S PASSING ON, SHE, OH, BRIANNA THE RESCUE. 
          BRIANNA THE RISK, I WANNA SAY YOU'RE WELCOME TO THE OTHER THREE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE RICK WILLIAMSON ROAD MILEAGE. 
          SO Y'ALL GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN YOU COULD HAVE. 
          I ROAD BRIDGE NUMBER A LITTLE FLAWED. 
          I, OKAY, SO WE WILL START AT THE TOP WITH THE REVENUES FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          UM, SO WE DISCUSSED IN LENGTH AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE, UH, TAX RATE AND REVENUE FROM THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX. 
          AND SO YOU COULD SEE THOSE FISCAL YEAR 26, ALMOST 15.2 MILLION. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WITH A 98.75% COLLECTION RATE. 
          UM, WE DO RECEIVE DELINQUENT TAXES. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE OVER WHAT WE BUDGETED IN THE PRIOR YEAR JUST BASED ON HISTORICAL, UM, AVERAGES. 
          WE RECEIVE A LATERAL ROAD, UM, STATE GRANT, AND SO WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT 78,000. 
          UM, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WE RECEIVED 87,000. 
          SO I INCREASED IT. 
          AGAIN, WHETHER THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP OR DOWN, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED SOME FUNDS FROM, UM, AN OIL AND GAS REVENUE LEASE. 
          UM, THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, THERE'S THE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE $10 FEE ON, UM, REGISTRATIONS THAT GO TO ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          AND SO WE'RE COLLECTING ABOUT 2 MILLION THERE. 
          UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, FINES ON CERTAIN OFFENSES THAT THE COUNTY CLERK COLLECTS. 
          AND SO WE'VE SEEN THOSE, UM, COLLECTIONS INCREASE. 
          AND KIND OF LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF THAT, WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO, UH, 290,000 INTEREST INCOME. 
          AGAIN, AS WE'VE EXPLAINED, UM, THAT'S JUST BASED OFF OF THE FUND BALANCE OF ALL THE FUNDS, ROAD AND BRIDGE RETAIN ITS INTEREST. 
          AND SO WE USE THAT AS PART OF THE ALLOCATION, UM, AND INCREASED THAT TO ABOUT 300,000. 
          AND THEN AS I SPOKE TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE OVERSIZED OVERWEIGHT REVENUE, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION FROM THE COMPTROLLER, BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT THAT REVENUE IS RELATED TO. 
          AND SO YOU COULD SEE THAT'S A NEW INCREASE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE OF 180,000. 
          AND SO I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE UNEXTENDED FUND BALANCE FOR A ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          AGAIN, 
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YOU GUYS CAN CHOOSE TO USE A PORTION OF THAT TO ALLOCATE OR WE CAN ADJUST THAT. 
          UM, I CAN LOOK, I WANNA SAY I DID A, LET ME GET IN HERE REAL QUICK. 
          A CALCULATION IN. 
          AND IF I LOOKED AT WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED, WE STILL WILL HAVE, UM, INTEREST ALLOCATION FOR THE FINAL MONTHS OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN, A FEW, UH, DELINQUENT AND CURRENT PROPERTY TAXES THAT'LL COME IN. 
          UM, NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT STUFF. 
          UM, IT'S ABOUT 3.5 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU GUYS CAN ADJUST THAT NUMBER. 
          UM, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL MILLION, YOU KNOW, IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, THEN MAYBE JUST DO THE MILLION NOW AND THEN CAN ASSESS THAT EACH YEAR. 
          SO THAT BRINGS, UM, WE HAVE IN HERE, WE'VE DONE IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, JUST PROGRAM CONTINGENCIES OF 50,000 IN THE EVENT SOMETHING COMES UP WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL WANNA PAY FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE OR YOU ALL WANNA SPLIT IT, WE CAN PAY IT FROM FUND 50 VERSUS HAVING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND IN YOUR BUDGETS. 
          UM, SO THAT, UH, MAKES THE NET TRANSFER TO 19,181,000 8 0 8. 
          UM, I JUST MODELED IT BASED ON HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH IS SPLITTING THAT MILLION DOLLARS FROM, UM, THE FUND BALANCE EQUALLY AND THEN PUTTING IT THROUGH THE FORMULA ALLOCATION FOR, UH, THE REST OF THE FUNDS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS 50% IS BASED ON ROAD MILES. 
          AND SO I REQUESTED THE MILES THAT HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED TO TDOT LAST, UM, TO OBTAIN THESE. 
          AND THEN, UM, FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, I REQUESTED THE CERTIFIED VALUES BY PRECINCT. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE UPDATED NUMBERS. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE SPREADSHEET, WHICH IS HELPFUL, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FY 25 ALLOCATION AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE INCREASES OR CHANGES IN ROAD MILES FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR TO THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, AND AS LIKE COMMISSIONER HOLT SAID, YOU SEE A BIG INCREASE IN PRECINCT TWO AND THAT'S FROM THE RICK WILLIAMSON MEMORIAL. 
          THAT PORTION, I THINK WE ALSO HAD FIVE SUBDIVISIONS GET TRANSFERRED OVER FROM DEVELOPER BOND TO OUR MAINTENANCE IN. 
          SO WHY WOULD THE, WHY WOULD THOSE ROAD MILES BE PART OF HIS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T REPAIR THAT ROAD. 
          I'LL HAVE TO, WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO MYSELF, UM, DISCUSS ON THAT PORTION. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A, A LARGE PORTION OF IT, OF IT THAT'S IN THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD, AND I SPOKE TO CHRIS BOSCO ABOUT IT. 
          CITY OF WEATHERFORD REFUSES TO TAKE THE ROAD ITSELF. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE MOW RICK WILLIAMSON, WE MAINTAIN FOR, FOR ANYTHING THAT'S IN OUR PRECINCT. 
          CITY OF WEATHERFORD HAS LAUGHED, UH, IN MY FACE ACTUALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN I ASKED THEM TO TAKE THAT ROAD, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT WE MOW IT, RIGHT? AND WE PAY FOR IT. 
          THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT SAYS IF A COUNTY BUILDS A ROAD, I THINK IT BELONGS TO THE CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW CHRIS BOSCO AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S PORTIONS OR EVEN THERE'S A SECTION OF THE ROAD BY COSTCO THAT WAS ANNEXED UP TO 180 IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. 
          THAT'S NEEDED TO BE DEEDED AWAY. 
          THAT IS NOW THE CITY CONTROLS UP TO 180, BUT 180 NORTH ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE, TO THE WEST IS ON ME. 
          I'VE BEGGED THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD AND GUYS, I'LL GIVE IT TO ALL OF US. 
          I'LL SHARE THOSE MILES IN A HEARTBEAT IF WE ALL WANT TO JOINTLY TAKE CONTROL OF RICK WILLIAMSON. 
          AND I'M DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE ALL IT'S GONNA TAKE IS ONE HUGE CRACK IN THE CONCRETE SOMEWHERE AND MY BUDGET IS NOT IN A GOOD PLACE. 
          SO I THOUGHT THAT ROAD WAS OWNED BY THE CITY THAT WE GAVE. 
          WELL THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE ASKED EACH YEAR. 
          SO, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I REACH OUT TO YOUR OFFICES TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT ROAD PROJECTS YOU'VE DONE TO PUT IT INTO THE COUNTY INVENTORY. 
          WE DO THE SAME THING WITH ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION BOND PROJECTS. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE DO, RIGHT, WHERE WE'RE DOING THE ENGINEERING FOR, UM, TXDOT ROADS, AND SO THOSE AREN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON OUR BOOKS AS ASSETS. 
          AND SO THAT WAS ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF QUESTIONING ON THE EAST LOOP PORTION, UM, BECAUSE A PORTION IS WITHIN THE COUNTY, A PORTION IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          AND SO I'VE SPOKEN TO CHRIS BOSCO ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY SORT OF OFFICIAL DEEDING AWAY OF THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD. 
          UM, SIMILAR TO HOW I UNDERSTAND THE, THAT'S THE NEW PORTION YOU'RE ADDRESSING. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SO THE OLD PORTION, 
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YES, WEST PORTION OVER HERE FROM 180 WAS DEEDED AWAY, WAS WAS DEED AWAY. 
          THEY TOOK, TOOK POSSESSION OF THAT SECTION OF IT. 
          UM, I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IF THE CITY ANNEX IS, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO A ROADWAY, THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE ROADWAY, RIGHT? SO I THOUGHT SOMETHING BY COSTCO. 
          SO THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN TO JOHN ABOUT, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CLEANUP ITEMS THAT PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          IT WAS LIKE LAST YEAR WE HAD TO PAY KIM. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH THAT WAS THAT WE PAID FOR THE MOWING OF RICK WILLIAMSON OUT OF THE PRECINCT TWO BUDGET. 
          IT WAS LIKE 3,800 BUCKS OR 5,000 BUCKS. 
          IT WASN'T HUGE, BUT, AND THEN THIS YEAR MY GUYS HAVE BEEN MOWING IT. 
          WE CLEAN IT, WE DO THE SIGNS ON AND ALL THAT. 
          SO IF WE CAN FIND OUT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT MINE, I WOULD LOVE THAT. 
          WELL, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A PORTION IN THERE NEXT TO THAT SUBDIVISION. 
          I THINK THAT'S IN THE CITY, ISN'T THERE? YES. 
          WHICH, UH, SILVERSTONE. 
          SILVERSTONE'S MINE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, BUT IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          CHAD MARBUT AND, UH, JAMES HO TOP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR TIMES. 
          UM, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT ROAD IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF WEATHERFORD. 
          HOWEVER, THEY ARE VERY ADAMANT THAT IT IS A COUNTY ROAD AND A COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY, AKA PRECINCT TWO, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A ROAD INSIDE OF THE CITY. 
          AND IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT BRIANNA SAID ABOUT, BECAUSE WE BUILT THE ROAD, WE OWN THE ROAD UNTIL THEY CHOOSE TO TAKE IT OVER. 
          AND I ASKED THEM WHEN THEY WOULD DO THAT AND THEY SAID NEVER. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY ACCURATE WHAT I SAID BECAUSE, UM, IN TALKING TO CHRIS BOSCO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PORTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE IS, HE UNDERSTANDS IT THAT IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE CITY'S ROAD, BUT WE'VE NEVER DEEDED IT AWAY. 
          WE ARE MAINTAINING IT. 
          SO UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, IT'S, SO FOR MY PURPOSE, IT'S AN ASSET ON OUR BOOKS. 
          I GUESS WE COULD, UH, MAKE IT A PARTIAL TOLL ROAD AND IF A CITY RESIDENT USES IT, WE COULD MAKE THEM PAY AN ANNUAL FEE OF $50. 
          . 
          EVERYBODY THINK OF THAT. 
          I GOT AN IDEA. 
          SECOND COMMISSIONER, HOPE IF YOU WOULD GRACIOUSLY GIVE PRECINCT ONE 300,000 OF YOUR MILLION MORE THAT YOU GET THAN WE GET, WE'LL MOW THAT GRASS FOR YOU. 
          A I'LL CONSIDER IT. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK SO OFF TOPIC, BUT ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'LL KIND OF HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH IS OLD WEATHERFORD ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I APPRECIATE ALL THIS, SO, BUT I, I'M GOING TO KIND OF HONE IN ON JUST A, A FLOW IN A, IN RIGHT PRODUCTIVE DIRECTION HERE. 
          UM, BRIANNA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT CONTACT, SO YES, SO THE INCREASES YOU CAN SEE FOR THE ROAD MILES, UM, I RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR EACH PRECINCT. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE ON THAT BOTTOM PORTION IT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE INCREASE IS. 
          UM, AND THEN WHERE IT HAS TOTAL ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION ON THAT BOTTOM PORTION THAT SAYS FY 26 VERSUS FIVE, YOU CAN SEE THE 888,592 ARE THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM REVENUE OUTSIDE OF THAT MILLION, UM, FOR ALLOCATION TO ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          SO WE CAN TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT OR WE, WE VOTE NOW IF YOU WANT TO, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS, HAVE TIME TO DIGEST IT AND VISIT IT ON FRIDAY. 
          YEAH, I MIGHT WANT, AND THEN AGAIN, WELL WAIT JUST TO, UM, THERE'S A MOTION I UNDERSTAND. 
          WELL, NO, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA SAY BE THE SAME WHETHER TODAY OR WHETHER FRIDAY OR WHATEVER THEY ARE. 
          BUT, BUT I, I'LL, I'LL INTERRUPT YOUR STATEMENT. 
          I GOT IT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO. 
          I WANT TO HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY WAS, I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS A OBVIOUSLY A, A VERY SENSITIVE DISCUSSION BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, I COMMEND YOU FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF ROADS AND MILES OF ROADS. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR WITH THE, THE, THE MILES OF ROADS. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I COMMEND YOU FOR WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THIS DONE, BUT THE, THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS AND WE CAN LOOK IT OVER IF YOU NEED TO. 
          YEP. 
          UH, IT, IT'S Y'ALL'S DEAL. 
          UM, WELL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GEORGE IS GETTING THE BEST DEAL THAT HE CAN. 
          SO HE, HE, HE'S GOTTA LOOK AT THIS AND TALK ABOUT IT. 
          SO WE'LL BRING HIM BACK ON FRIDAY. 
          I NEED TO SEE IF I ADD THAT 300,000. 
          I BET WE, I BET WE CAN MANAGE IT PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE ALSO TO THINK, THINK ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ALLOCATION, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE, UM, DISCRETIONARY BOND FUNDS AND AS WELL AS THOSE FUNDS. 
          UM, FROM THAT WE GOT THE PAYOUT EARLY FROM TECH O. 
          UM, AND SO EACH OF YOU HAVE, UH, 1 MILLION, I WANNA SAY 1,750,000. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AVAILABLE. 
          WHAT IS THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ON BALANCE RIGHT NOW? UM, 3.5 MILLION. 
          SO AND THAT IS BEFORE THE 1 MILLION TRANSFER OR AFTER? THAT IS BEFORE, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          SO IT'LL GO DOWN TO 2.5. 
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RIGHT? UM, ALSO, THIS IS JUST WHEN I RAN IT, UM, IT DID, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER INTEREST ALLOCATION. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE I MENTIONED THE OVERSIZED OVERWEIGHT REVENUE. 
          UM, I WILL RECLASS THE CURRENT YEAR THERE. 
          AGAIN, I'M WAITING FOR THE CONFIRMATION FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THAT'LL INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM. 
          WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. 
          WELL, THAT'S TRUE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          LET WITHDRAW I IT DON'T SAY ON HERE. 
          I CAN WITHDRAW. 
          DID SAY IT. 
          YOU CAN JUST TELL US. 
          OH, I GOT IT. 
          I WITHDRAW A SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WITHDRAW MINE. 
          OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM THIS TIME. 
          TWO C GEORGE, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD THAT MANY ROADS. 
          I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAKING THAT UP. 
          . 
          I THOUGHT YOU HAD LIKE 230 OR SOMETHING. 
          I WOULD, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYONE, ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE WE WANT TO ADDRESS TODAY? WHAT? SO DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT MILLION THAT YOU APPARENTLY NOT, NOT QUITE. 
          OH, SO WE, WE HAVE NOT, WE HAVE JUST TO LOOK THROUGH THIS, UH, AGENDA WE HAVE NOT DONE. 
          UH, ONE E, ONE F, ITEM J UNDER ITEM TWO A, B, AND C HAVE NOT BEEN DONE. 
          WHAT DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? CORRECT. 
          SO WHAT DO Y'ALL WANNA DO? I MOVED ADJOURN SECOND. 
          LEMME HAVE, OH WAIT, WE NEED TO VOTE ON, UH, MARK'S OTHER DEPUTIES. 
          WE WERE GONNA COME BACK TO THAT. 
          I APOLOGIZE, MARK, I FORGOT. 
          I KNOW YOU TEXTED. 
          WE SHOULD ADJOURNED AND OPEN THE COURT BACK UP TOMORROW WHENEVER HE'S GONE. 
          . 
          CAN'T BELIEVE STILL. 
          OKAY. 
          1 78 . 
          WE WANT THAT G. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THIS THAT WE'RE ON? I THINK IT WAS IGG. 
          YEP. 
          WE'RE ON G. 
          SO THIS IS JUST THE, UH, UPGRADE FOR THE TWO DEPUTY POSITIONS TO SERGEANT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMITTEE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          SO I'M MAKING THIS MOTION SUBJECT TO THE NINE NINE APPROACH INSTEAD OF THE TEN NINE APPROACH TO REMIND Y'ALL THE, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION WAS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION PLAN THAT THEY'VE SUGGESTED WITH THE FOUR SERGEANTS. 
          TWO SERGEANTS WOULD BE NEW HIRES EFFECTIVELY, AND THEN TWO WOULD BE PROMOTED UP. 
          I'M PHRASING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY IN DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS SUBJECT TO, INSTEAD OF RUNNING 10 DEPUTIES ON ONE SHIFT AND NINE ON ANOTHER, YOU JUST RUN NINE ON BOTH. 
          SO THAT WAY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE THERE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS BY VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL LAST FOR THAT MOTION AGAIN. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          SECOND. 
          STAY LIGHT, GEORGE. 
          SECOND IT UM, RECORDS SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT TWO 15 WITH THAT. 
          SO YEAH, NOW WE'RE AT FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ALL THE CAP, SO YOU CAN DO THE CAP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, UM, IT REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL $7,500 IN THEIR CAP OR THEIR NON CAP FOR THE UB KEYS. 
          UB KEYS, THE LITTLE LIKE WHEN YOU'RE PLUGGED INTO YOUR MOTION COMPUTERS AND IT'S AUTHENTICATION. 
          OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER WALDEN? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? YOU SAID 7,500. 
          7,500. 
          THERE'S FOR IT'S A QUANTITY OF 75 AT A HUNDRED. 
          CAN I ASK WHAT AGENDA ITEM WE'RE UNDER? CAP. 
          NON CAP. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIES. 
          FAVO. 
          UH, A QUESTION COME UP WHEN, WHENEVER YOU VOTED TO, UH, APPROVE THE NEW TWO NEW SERGEANT POSITIONS WAS THE MOTION FOR THE POSITIONS AND THE CAP, NON CAP EQUIPMENT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT EQUIPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE RECORDS SHOW THAT WE ADJOURNED TWO 16.
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