Sep 17, 2025 Commissioners Court FY2026 Budget Workshop Agenda

[Call to Order]

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UH, GOOD MORNING.

WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPEC SPECIAL AGENDA, BUDGET AGENDA OF WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025.

LET THE RECORD SHOW IT IS 9 0 1 TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA, ITEMS ON APPROVAL

[1.A. Public Hearing on Proposed Tax Rate for FY2025-2026. (Judge Deen) PUBLIC HEARING]

FIRST ON THE ITEM, A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR FY 25 26.

I, WE WILL OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 9 0 2.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? I KNEW YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I, I, RICHARD EISER, 1001 THISTLE HILL HERE IN WEATHERFORD.

I'LL SPEAK FIRST TO THE, UH, RATE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

AND I WILL SAY AGAIN THAT I APPRECIATE THAT RATE.

I THINK IN A TIME OF, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN BONDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THIS KIND OF RATE.

UH, THERE'S A SECOND THING THOUGH I WANT TO SPEAK TO, AND IT HAS TO DO, IT'S BUILT IN TO THE RATE, UH, OR AT LEAST WHAT, UH, OUR TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING.

AND THAT WAS A PUBLISHED SALARY INCREASE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UH, I'M ASSUMING YOU, YOU ALL SAW THAT, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS.

UM, FIRST, I, I GUESS I WAS THE SHEER MAGNITUDE OF THE INCREASES, UH, VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND AS I LOOK AT IT, AND I LOOK BACK TO BOTH THE, UH, 24 AND THE 25 SALARIES, UH, AND I KNOW THESE SALARIES INCLUDE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT JUST A, OTHER THINGS I GUESS ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE A PART OF IT.

BUT SINCE 24, AND THIS IS A TWO YEAR PERIOD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 25% SALARY INCREASE FOR AT LEAST LONGEST SERVING MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD, ON THIS COMMISSION.

31% INCREASE IN SALARY FOR SHERIFF, 27% INCREASE FOR THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT CLERKS, 18% FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR.

AND I GUESS THE, UH, ANOTHER, AND THEN ALSO A 20% IN CONSTABLES.

UM, YES, INCREASES IN SALARIES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS, AND I MEAN THE SHEER MAGNITUDE, AND I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CAREER EMPLOYEES OR NON-ELECTED, TRULY THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YOUR LONGEVITY IS FROM ONE ELECTION TO ANOTHER.

IT'S NOT HOW LONG YOU'RE SITTING ON THIS COMMISSION OR HOW LONG YOU'RE IN A POSITION IN ELECTED POSITION.

IT'S FROM ONE ELECTION TO THE NEXT, BECAUSE YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOSE THAT POSITION.

SO, AS I SEE IT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF UNFAIRNESS AND A LOT OF DISPARITY IN THE WAY.

NOW SALARIES ARE BUILT AROUND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND BUILDING SO MUCH LONGEVITY INTO THE SALARIES.

WHAT I'M IN HOPES THAT ONE WOULD DO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE ELECTED, YOU KNOW WHAT THE SALARY IS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE POSITION IS, WHAT IT REQUIRES.

AND I LOOK AT IT FROM THE ASPECT.

WHAT'S FAIR IS A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT RATHER THAN SUCH INCREASES IN SALARIES AND ESPECIALLY IN A YEAR SUCH AS THIS.

I WANT TO, I WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING.

I WANNA THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT.

HE'S ONE THAT DID NOT ACCEPT.

HE DID VOTE AGAINST THIS.

I WATCHED IT.

I WAS AT HOME, UH, WATCHED IT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S BOLD TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, AS, AS YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S BEEN PUBLISHED HERE, THESE ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT TYPES OF INCREASES.

SO WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO IS TAKE A NEW LOOK AT THESE INCREASES.

YOU'VE GOT A NEW BUDGETING SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND BRINGING OTHER PEOPLE INTO THAT BUDGETING SYSTEM.

AND I THINK THIS YEAR, TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT POSITIONS AND BOTH CAREER AND ELECTED, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT NO DISPARITIES THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS THING AND GET THIS THING BALANCED AGAIN, BECAUSE

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IT'S ALREADY OUTTA PROPORTION.

SO, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, I ALWAYS, AND I'VE SAT IN HERE AND WATCHED THIS, UM, THIS COMMISSION, THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT YOU DO.

I KNOW THE HARD WORK THAT YOU CARRY OUT, BUT I THINK THIS SITUATION IS ONE THAT, UH, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP? AND SPEED.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK.

UH, THIS AGAIN, UH, IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP.

IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE, UH, I DON'T WANNA WASTE A LOT OF TIME AND BEGGING YOU TO COME UP.

I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.

BUT, UM, JUST KIND OF A LAST CALL.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP? I'D LIKE TO SPEAK YES, SIR.

MR. HEISER, YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SALARIES THAT ARE MANDATED TO THIS COURT THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT START AT THE DISTRICT, JUDGES FLOW DOWN AS WELL.

THE COUNTY JUDGE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THOSE ARE MANDATED TO US.

AND THOSE SALARIES GOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF THE ORDER THAT THESE OTHER SALARIES CAME IN.

THEY WERE HANDED TO US.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE ALSO HANDED THE SALARIES OF THE COUNTY AUDITOR, PURCHASING COURT REPORTERS AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THE DISTRICT COURTS UNDERNEATH THE DISTRICT COURTS.

WE ARE HANDED THOSE SALARIES.

AND SO, UH, ADDITIONAL SALARY WOULD BE, JUVENILE PROBATION IS HANDED TO US, WE'RE TOLD WHAT THOSE SALARIES WILL BE.

AND MY ATTEMPT, WHEN I SET THE SALARIES OF THOSE FOLKS AT THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS YEARS COUNTY AUDITOR'S SALARY, AND THE PREVIOUS YEARS, UH, PURCHASING AGENT SALARY, WERE TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THOSE SALARIES THAT WE ARE HANDED, AND ALSO TO KEEP THINGS IN LINE.

AND IT'S A, IT'S A, A VALIANT THING OVER HERE THAT THE COMMISSIONER DID.

BUT MY DEAL, MY IDEA IS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE MANDATED THESE SALARIES, AND THEN WE ARE CRITICIZED ANYTIME THAT WE TAKE A RAISE.

MY POINT IS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE THOSE SALARIES AT ALL.

THEY'RE HANDED TO US AND TOLD THAT WE SHOULD PAY THEM.

AND ALL I DID WAS TRY TO BRING THOSE SALARIES IN LINE OUR SALARIES OF AS ELECTED COUNTY OFFICIALS IN LINE WITH THOSE THAT WE ARE HANDED.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S MY POINT RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT.

THERE'S NOBODY MORE CONSERVATIVE IN GOVERNMENT THAN ME, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I DON'T WANT, WANT TO GET UP AND GO UP THERE.

UM, I'M BEING LAZY OR WHATEVER.

UM, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS SAID IS CORRECT ON THAT.

AND, AND MY NAME WAS MENTIONED IN THIS, AND I, I'M PART OF THE, THE, THE STIPEND THAT'S GIVEN FROM THE STATE WHERE THEY PAY THE, THE, UM, THE DISTRICT JUDGES, AND THEY, AND THEY INCREASED THAT SUBSTANTIALLY, WHICH IS SURPRISING TO ME.

AND I KNOW THAT'S WHERE COMMISSIONER WALDEN, THE BASIS OF HIS, HIS COMMENTS WERE MADE AND THEN LED TO SUBSEQUENT CHANGES IN OUR SALARIES.

BUT I WANNA ADD, I MEAN, THERE WERE NOT PROPORTION ACROSS THE BOARD WHILE MY NAME WAS MENTIONED, UH, APPARENTLY THE JUDICIAL SIDE OF MY, MY ROLE IN THIS JOB TOUCHES BETWEEN 40 AND 50% OF MY TIME, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE.

AND, UH, BUT THEN THE, THE, THE INCREASE OBVIOUSLY WENT DRAMATICALLY.

THE OTHER WAY, I I, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GOT A WINDFALL HERE, BUT I, I THINK THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS AND TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT IN THE FUTURE, UM, TO YOUR POINT, SIR, THAT YOU MADE, UH, IT DOES START WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND WHAT THOSE SALARIES WERE DRAMATICALLY CHANGED, UH, FOR A, UH, A PARTY THAT PRIDES ITSELF ON THE CONSERVATISM OF, OF THE, UM, APPROACH TO TRANSPARENT AND, AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK THOSE SALARIES WERE SHOCKINGLY PUT OUT.

UH, THEY WERE NOT PUT OUT EQUALLY AMONG MYSELF AND OTHERS, GIVEN WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE DO A HEFTY PART.

THE COUNTY JUDGE'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, IS PROBATE, GUARDIANSHIPS, MENTAL HEARINGS, MENTAL INCOMPETENCE HEARINGS, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THOSE ARE DAMN HARD TO HEAR SOMETIMES.

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AND SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I I DO TOO.

AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE SALARY INCREASES FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL? NO, I, I, YOUR SALARY INCREASE CAME FROM THE STATE LEVEL.

AND, AND BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT GREEDY HERE, AND IT'S NOT LIKE I WANTED MORE, BUT WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE HEARING IT HAS IMMENSE POWER IN OVER PEOPLE'S LIVES IN PROBATE, GUARDIANSHIPS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AFFECTING, I MEAN, COMMITTING THEM, UH, SITUATIONS AND MENTAL HEARINGS AND THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS IS STAGGERINGLY POWERFUL.

AND THAT DID NOT TRANSLATE ITSELF ACROSS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF WHAT WENT DOWN IN AUSTIN.

I DON'T, BUT IT, BUT IT HAD A RIPPLING EFFECT INTO WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN SAID.

UH, AND WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AND, AND, AND WHETHER, AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISAGREEMENTS, THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

UH, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT WENT AND UNDERSTAND THAT IN RESPECT COMMISSIONER HOLT THAT BACKED THAT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT WE HAVE A TOUGH JOB HERE IN DEALING WITH THE, UH, THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING.

I MEAN, WE, IT, IT'S FUNNY THAT WE, WE GET CRITICIZED FOR THINGS THAT, THINGS WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER.

THEN WE, UH, GET CREDIT FOR SOME THINGS WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.

IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF HILARIOUS, REALLY.

BUT, UH, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN IN DEALING WITH THE GROWTH.

WE'RE NUMBER FOUR IN THE NATION AND, UH, IN GROWTH.

AND THAT'S 200 OUT OF 254 COUNTIES IN TEXAS ALONE.

WE'RE NUMBER FOUR IN THE NATION.

SO WE GOT SOME TOUGH CHALLENGES.

WE'RE FACED WITH DIFFICULT SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THESE, THESE SEATS TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.

AND AGAIN, UM, I UNDERSTAND ALL SIDES OF THIS AND, AND LOOKING AT THE ROLE THAT THESE COMMISSIONERS PLAY, AND, UM, BUT YOUR, YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN, SIR.

AND, AND, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER WALDEN REALLY DID PUT A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT, WHAT THEY DEALT US AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

SO JUST, UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE FAIR ABOUT WHAT, HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THIS, UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN, JUST LAST CALL THAT, UM, COME UP AND SPEAK, COMMISSIONER HOL? YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY, UM, ANYBODY'S MOMENTUM IN THE AUDIENCE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE.

GOOD.

SO I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS JUST A LITTLE BIT, STILL TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

I WANNA COMPLIMENT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

THIS WAS OUR FIRST YEAR TO HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE.

AND THE IDEA CAME FROM A VERY WISE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK, IF WE CAN ALL LOOK AT SHERIFF ER AND SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE IT WAS HIS IDEA TO HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE.

HE BROUGHT THAT UP TO ME, OH, MAYBE 10 MONTHS AGO OR SO.

AND, UM, I THINK WE HAD BEEN KICKING AROUND SOME SIMILAR IDEAS, AND I THINK WE ALL SAW WHAT DOGE IS, HAP IS DOING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

BUT, UM, I WANT TO THANK SHERIFF ER FOR, FOR REALLY INITIATING THAT.

AND I WANNA THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

UH, SHERIFF ER WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.

OUR TREASURER AND HR DIRECTOR, BECKY MCCULLOUGH WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, JEFF SWAIN, MR. RICHARD HEISER, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, AND MYSELF.

WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME REVIEWING ALL NEW PERSONNEL AND NEW CAPITAL REQUESTS, AND WE RANKED THOSE ON A SCALE AND THEN PROVIDED THAT RANKING TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND I THINK, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO GET TO SEE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN A HOLISTIC MANNER AT ONE TIME WHEN WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, NECK DEEP IN WORKSHOPS AND SEEING DEPARTMENT AFTER DEPARTMENT AND KIND OF TAKE A HIGHER VIEW OF SEPARATING.

AS COMMISSIONER WALDEN FREQUENTLY TALKS ABOUT OUR NEEDS VERSUS OUR WANTS.

AND BY AND LARGE, I THINK THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY THE COMMITTEE WERE FOLLOWED NEARLY FOR THE MO OR ALMOST ALL.

THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WE DEPARTED ON, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS HELD QUITE A BIT OF SWAY.

WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE ON WHAT WE WANT YEAR TWO TO LOOK LIKE.

I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

SO IF ANYONE IS WATCHING THIS VIDEO AND WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE, OR AT LEAST ATTENDING COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT YEAR, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THE FIRST YEAR.

I THINK IT, IT SAVED A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYER.

TURNED OUT REAL WELL.

YEAH, HELPED US, HELPED US A LOT.

I THINK, UH, AN OUT OUTFLOW OF THAT IS, UH, WHAT WE'VE OUTLINED AND ASKED FOR THE COURT FOR PERMISSION TO DO.

AND THAT IS, UH,

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AND, UH, WE WILL EMBARK ON THAT AS SOON AS WE FINISH THE BUDGET PROCESS HERE.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, ASK, UH, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COURT JUDGE AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK, UH, IF THEY WOULD WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, AND, AND BECOME A PART OF THAT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT, UH, HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, STREAMLINE SOME OF THE THINGS AND BE MORE EFFICIENT IN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE OPERATING HERE THAT ARE OPERATING UNDER THE CONTROL OF COURT.

UH, AND, UH, SEE IF WE CAN BRING THOSE ALONG AND HELP THEM SEE THINGS THE WAY, UH, UH, WE, WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO, UH, BE OPERATED.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED AS WELL.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FROM THE COURT? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOL, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SHERIFF, MR. HEISER.

I THINK THAT THIS WAS A GREAT STEP.

I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, DOGE KIND OF OPENED THE, AND, AND BECKY, I'M SO SORRY.

I KNEW, I KNEW I'D GET IN TROUBLE.

NO, I, I I THINK THIS WAS GREAT.

UH, FIRST ATTEMPT, I THINK EXPANDING.

I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY, AS, AS WE SEE FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND, UH, THE REQUEST, I THINK THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AT, UH, MAYBE BEING MORE EFFICIENT, UH, STREAMLINING PURCHASING PROCESS, MAYBE LEVERAGING THAT, THAT BUYING POWER, UH, LOOKING AT ECONOMIES OF SCALE FOR MORE INSTEAD OF EACH DEPARTMENT PURCHASING THIS TYPE VEHICLE OR THIS TYPE OF OUTFITTING OR CERTAIN THINGS.

I KNOW WE ALL HAVE NUANCES, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK, AND I THINK THERE'S REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR THE COUNTY AND THE BUDGET, UM, DIGGING IN AND, AND BEING MORE OF A DOGE TYPE, UM, COMMITTEE.

SO I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT.

IT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR US DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

BECKY, ARE YOU DONE? I'M DONE.

I'M JU I'M JUST KIDDING.

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AND THIS IS, I'M JUST MESSING WITH Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, BECKY, VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

BECKY, HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY? I'M, I'M JUST KIDDING.

UM, OKAY.

BEFORE, IS THERE ANYBODY LAST, LAST CALL? ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA PUBLIC CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT NINE 19, AND THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN COMING IN THAT, UM, JUST MOVING DOWN THIS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF STEP ASIDE OF THIS.

UM,

[1.B. Approve Addendum to Municipal-County Contract for Road Repair with the City of Willow Park and Precinct Four and take any action the court deems necessary. (Commissioner Hale)]

COMMISSIONER HALE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS AS WE OPEN THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO, THIS IS JUST A, WITH AN INTERLOCAL AG AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF WILLOW PARK FOR SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CURIOUS BY VOTE.

OKAY.

BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM,

[III.A. Present/Discuss/Approve General Fund Budget for FY2025-2026. (Judge Deen)]

BRIANNA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON, OR, OR DO WE NEED TO DEFER THAT UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING? WE, I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT LATER.

OKAY.

I, I'D RATHER DO THAT,

[III.B. General Budget Updates. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

UM,

[III.C. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

UM, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE OR TAKE ACTION ON, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT DONE.

NOW, KIM, IF YOU WOULD, TO COME UP, SO I GAVE Y'ALL, UM, THIS LITTLE PACKING OF UPDATES.

THERE'S, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE RADIO TOWERS, THE, THE BIGGEST THING, THE $3.8 MILLION, UM, FOR THAT, THERE'S BEEN SOME UPDATES TO THE PRICING OF THE HANDHELD A PX 8,500 RADIOS FOR MOTOROLA.

THEY'VE INCREASED THOSE, UM, BY $570 EACH.

AND SO I'VE GONE IN ON, ON THE SPREADSHEET AND INCLUDED WHAT THE INCREASED AMOUNT WOULD COME OUT TO

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SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT LINE TO $8,930 FOR THEM.

CONSTABLE ONE HAD FIVE FOR A TOTAL OF 44,650.

NOW, UM, CONSTABLE THREE HAD TWO, THEIR TOTAL IS NOW 17,860.

PATROL HAD REQUESTED TWO NEW RADIOS FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S ALSO 17,860.

AND THEN, UM, WITH THE NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE, UH, WE WILL NEED A NEW FIXED ASSETS PRINTER TO PRINT THE BARCODE LABELS, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE $1,445.

THOSE ARE THE NON CAP CAP FUND 10 ITEMS. THE, UM, KIM, I'M SORRY, CAN I, CAN I SPEAK ON ONE OF THOSE ITEMS? SURE.

BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.

SO COURT, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE RADIO TOWERS QUITE A BIT.

AND, AND IN MY HEAD I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

I RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE OF MANY OBLIGATIONS, INCLUDING SOME UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT NONE OF US ARE REAL FOND OF.

WHAT STRIKES ME THOUGH IS THAT IF WE'RE NOT SECURING PUBLIC SAFETY WITH OUR TAX DOLLAR, THEN I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE PRIMARY POINT.

UM, I WOULD ARGUE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT EVEN THAN WHAT I DO AS THE PRECINCT BARN COMMISSIONER, WHICH IS ROADS, ALTHOUGH ROADS ARE A PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 3.8 IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE CHUNK, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COURT IS, UM, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER OF IMPORTANCE, A FEW KEY DETAILS.

ONE, WE ARE GROWING EXTREMELY QUICKLY.

WE ARE A COUNTY THAT THE POPULATION IS BOOMING.

UM, TWO, MR. KAYWOOD HAS CUT $1.1 MILLION OUT OF HIS BUDGET, AND HE WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE, ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS FOR WHY HE WAS SO AGGRESSIVE IN HIS CUTS WAS TO MAKE ROOM FOR THESE RADIO TOWERS.

THREE.

HE DROVE OUT TO THESE SITES WHERE WE NEED THIS COVERAGE.

AND WE HAVE HAD THE 700 SERIES, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD CALL IT, PROJECTED.

WE DON'T HAVE IT FULLY ONLINE YET, BUT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF PROJECTING WHERE THAT COVERAGE WILL BE.

AND THERE WILL BE SOME VERY HEAVY LACKING AREAS IN THE SPOTS WHERE THESE TOWERS WILL COVER.

UM, FOR EVERY YEAR THAT WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S JUST GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE.

THAT 3.8 IS NOT GONNA BE 3.8 NEXT YEAR.

IT'S JUST NOT ALL OF THAT TO BE SAID.

I WOULD JUST STRONGLY RECOMMEND THIS COURT.

WE, WE'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO GET AT LEAST ONE OF THESE TOWERS GOING.

AND KEEP IN MIND, THESE TOWERS ARE NOT GONNA BE IN MY PRECINCT.

THEY'RE GONNA BE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO DO AT LEAST ONE TOWER.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE 3.8 RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THE MOTION IN MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

I WANNA SECOND IT JUST TO GET TO THE DISCUSSION PHASE QUICKLY THEN.

I THINK ONE OF THE, THE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER, MAYBE ONE OF THE HESITANCIES IN THIS, IN APPROVING THIS QUICKLY, IS WE WE'RE KIND OF HOPING THAT THERE'S A NEWER TECHNOLOGY COMING THAT'S GONNA REPLACE THE NEED FOR THIS.

AND WE, THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN THAT, THAT IF IT DOES, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

IT'S GONNA BE DOWN THE ROAD, WOULD YOU SAY? IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK WE HAD ASKED, UH, MR. KAYWOOD THAT, AND HE SAID THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING COMING, IT WOULD BE DECADES AWAY.

THERE, THERE WOULD BE, WELL, I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TIME DOWN THE ROAD.

ONE THING I, I, I DID NOT MENTION, AND I SHOULD HAVE, AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT ASKING FOR US TO PURCHASE 3.8, I'M ASKING FOR US TO PUT THAT AMOUNT IN CONTINGENCY RIGHT NOW SO THAT IT'S LINE ITEM IN CONTINGENCY, OR THAT AMOUNT IS IN CONTINGENCY.

IF WE HAVE TO PIVOT, IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT'S AN EMERGENCY THAT IS UNFORESEEN OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, WE CAN UTILIZE THAT 3.8 OR HALF OF THAT 3.8 ON THE TOWERS OR PIVOT IF NEEDED.

BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE OUR BEST KIND OF GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO GET THESE TOWERS ROLLING.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, AND I'M, I'M BEING, I'M JUST THAT DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.

YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR THE, THE TOWERS, BUT YET WE DOING A CONTINGENCY IN CASE SOMETHING ELSE COMES IN FRONT THAT'S MORE CRITICAL, UM, THAT I, I THINK WE NEED TO, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE DRONES, UNDERSTOOD.

WHERE WE, WHERE WE'RE KIND OF LINE ITEMING SOMETHING INTO CONTINGENCY,

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UM, I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION UNLESS WE MAKE THE DECISION AND GET IT DONE.

AND THAT'S JUST MY INPUT AND I'M, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING NOT TO PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

THEN THE MOTION WILL STAND WITHOUT IT BEING IN CONTINGENCY BECAUSE I, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, ON THE HORIZON, THERE'S NO NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GONNA BAIL US OUT OF THIS.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY MOTOROLA.

WE HAD THEM COME IN.

UH, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY OUR IT DIRECTOR WHO'S, UH, ACCLIMATED HIMSELF REALLY WELL INTO THIS.

UH, THAT'S BEEN, AND WE, NONE OF US WANNA SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY, BUT WE WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

WE GOT A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

WE CAN DO THIS.

AND, UH, THAT'S MY MOTION.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASES OR ANY OF THE DISCUSSION.

I, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING ONE NOW.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A TOWER ALREADY THAT'S UP AND THE STUFF'S NOT ON IT, AND IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT OR? IT LOOKS GOOD.

LOOKS GOOD.

YEAH.

, MY ONLY COMMENT, AND, AND, AND ALL THESE POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN, UH, KINDA DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE ON, ON WHERE THE, THE SPENDING LEVEL, UH, IS IN ANY ONE PARTICULAR YEAR.

UH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT, UH, WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH COMEBACK AND FUND BALANCE TO, TO, FROM SAVINGS IN THIS YEAR TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

UH, I, I'VE HEARD ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT, THAT COMMISSIONER HOLT HAS, HAS HEARD, UH, FROM ALL THE SAME FOLKS, UH, PARTICULARLY FROM, UH, OUR IT DIRECTOR WHO'S EXTREMELY COMPETENT.

UM, HOWEVER, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT AND, AND SPEAKING WITH, UH, ONE OF THE USERS WAS WE'VE HAD THIS SITUATION FOR 30 YEARS, UH, ANOTHER YEAR, NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE BIG SCOPE.

AND WE, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE, UH, DELIVERABLE ITEMS YET.

AS I WAS LOOKING AT HERE, THE, UH, THE, UH, ROLL FORWARD NUMBERS, UM, I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING FORWARD, UH, THE MOTOROLA COMMUNICATION, UH, UPGRADE ITEMS, AND, UH, THAT 1.7, SIX SEVEN AND 289,000, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING OVER, UH, 2 MILLION THERE THAT'S BEING ROLLED OVER FROM THE $9 MILLION THAT WE JUST SPENT AND ALLOCATED TO THIS, TO THIS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.

WE'VE ALLOCATED 9 MILLION AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT FOR ALL THESE RADIOS THAT WERE APPROVED THIS YEAR, THAT 9 MILLION CAME FROM, UH, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

SO CAN I ASK, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT AREA, IS WHAT I'M POINTING OUT.

I'M NOT POINTING THIS TO YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT MAYBE COMMISSIONERS, UM, IF WE DO THIS AND, AND PUSH THIS AND KIND OF PHASE IT IN, IF YOU WILL, WILL IT COST US MORE MONEY DOWN THE ROAD TO GETTING THE ADDITIONAL TOWERS PUT UP IN THE FUTURE? YEAH, I THINK STEEL PRICES, CONSTRUCTION PRICES, NONE OF THOSE, UH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE SEEN THOSE GO DOWN.

SO THE NUMBER IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DECREASE.

I'M FIRMLY OF THE OPINION THAT WE NEED TO DO TO NOW.

UH, MR. KAY WOULD'VE SAID THAT WE NEED FOUR OVER THE NEAR FUTURE.

IF WE DON'T DO TWO, THEN WE'VE GOTTA DO AT LEAST ONE.

SO I THINK YOU AND I AGREE THERE, COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND COMMISSIONER WALDEN'S POINTS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY WELL TAKEN.

UM, EVERYTHING HE SAID IS COMPLETELY TRUE.

WE ARE A VERY, VERY RAPIDLY GROWING COUNTY, WHICH I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, IS, UH, THE, THE GROWTH IN THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE IN PRECINCT FOUR IS JUST ENORMOUS.

I, I, I GUESS MY POINT BEING IS WE'RE GONNA DO THE FOUR.

WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE FOUR IS GONNA COST US MORE MONEY TO DELAYING THIS DOWN IN A YEAR FROM NOW.

AND I'M JUST BEING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON THIS.

YES, IT WILL, IT'LL COST MORE.

WELL, EVERYTHING WE DO IS GONNA BE MORE, THAT'S WHY GO AHEAD AND ABOUT THE BULLYING, JUST GET IT DONE NOW.

BUT THAT'S MY, IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

UH, NOT THAT YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN, BUT, UM, SO THE MOTION COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION? REPEAT MOTIONS.

MOTION IS FOR THE 3.8 TO BE BUDGETED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWERS.

OKAY.

WE HAVE MUCH, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS.

UM, I'VE INITIALLY REACHED OUT, I'M TRYING TO STILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY OF FORT WORTH AND TARRANT COUNTY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BLANK.

THE, THESE SPOTS THAT NEED MORE BETTER COVERAGE IS RIGHT ON THE COUNTY LINE.

AND SO I KNOW TARRANT COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE THESE SAME ISSUES IN THAT AREA

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I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE THAT AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

'CAUSE I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME CONVERSATION THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED IT AS WELL.

IF, IF THEY ARE PUTTING UP TOWERS, THEN WE SHOULD AT LEAST EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUR, IF, IF WE COULD PUT COUNTY EQUIPMENT OR USE THAT FOR THAT COVERAGE.

I, AND I, I PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT IT, BUT I'VE, I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED AT THE RATE OF PROGRESS FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, 0.2, UH, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT IN THIS SYSTEM TO BE PUT ONLINE AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT OUR COVERAGE AREAS ARE.

I, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN FORECAST A LITTLE BIT AND I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DENSITY CAN AFFECT COMMUNICATIONS AND I'M VERY AWARE, VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT IN PRECINCT FOUR.

SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I'M TAKING LIGHTLY, BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN MONEY ALLOCATED RESOURCES ALLOCATED AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE INTO THIS ONE, UH, THE 700 THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT ONLINE YET.

RIGHT.

AND I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS BEFORE COMMITTING THESE SIZABLE DOLLARS, WHICH ROLLS INTO MY NEXT QUESTION WAS MAYBE BRIANNA, YOU CAN ANSWER AS BEST AS IF WE SET THIS AND WE ALLOCATE IT IN LINE ITEM, IT, WE KNOW WHAT BONDS ARE UP IN NOVEMBER, HOW DOES THIS POTENTIALLY AFFECT US ON OUR BOND RATING OR CREDIT, UM, WITH PERCENTAGES AND, AND HOW THAT'S USED.

UM, ALLOCATING, YOU KNOW, SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHUNKS LIKE THIS.

THAT'S DEFINITELY A QUESTION THAT THEY ASK WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE RATING CALLS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DO ASK, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLAN SIGNIFICANT DECREASES IN FUND BALANCE? UM, AND SO THEN THEY'LL LOOK AT BASICALLY WHERE YOUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE WILL BE.

BUT PARTICULARLY, UM, THAT'S PART OF IT IS IF YOU'RE USING IT, WHAT ARE YOU USING IT FOR? ARE THEY ONE TIME CAPITAL EXPENDITURES? IS IT AN OPERATING COST? AND SO THEY BASICALLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE USING A LOT OF YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR OPERATING COST, WHAT'S YOUR POTENTIAL FOR GENERATING ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER IT? ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH TAX RATE, HOW HIGH YOU CAN GO AS A COUNTY YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO LOOK AT.

SO PART OF IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF A DECREASE, WHERE DOES THAT PUT YOU? AND THEN ALSO WHAT ARE YOU USING IT FOR? AND I THINK THE BIG, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTING FACTOR THERE IS, ARE YOU USING IT FOR A ONE-TIME CAPITAL EXPENDITURE OR ARE YOU USING IT, UM, AS PART OF YOUR OPERATING COSTS AND HOW LONG CAN YOU SUSTAIN, YOU KNOW, USING YOUR FUND BALANCE IF IT IS FOR OPERATING COSTS VERSUS ONE-TIME CAP? YES MA'AM.

AND THESE WOULD, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY THAT ALLOCATING IT TO A TOWER WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED OPERATING COST, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE TIME, CORRECT? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

YES.

WELL, PARDON ME FOR BEING NEGATIVE, BUT I SAT RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAIR AND I LISTENED TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM MOTOROLA STAND RIGHT THERE AT THAT MICROPHONE AND TELL ME THAT THE $9 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND, THAT WE DID SPEND WOULD SOLVE OUR RADIO PROBLEMS FOR THE NEAR FUTURE.

YEAH.

HOW LONG? 10 YEARS OR MORE.

SO FORGIVE ME FOR BEING SKEPTICAL OF, UH, A FORECAST OR A PROJECTION FOR MOTOROLA ABOUT COVERAGE AND WHAT WE NEED.

WELL SAID.

I THINK I I I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID THERE, COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

UM, AND I WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT THE TIME.

I DO THINK JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK THE PROJECTIONS HAVE COME FROM MR. KAYWOOD WITH THE COUNTY AND, UH, MR. BALDWIN WITH THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD WHO IS, UH, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO MR. K WOOD AND HIS EXPERTISE ON THESE THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE FORECASTING HAS COME FROM.

I, I WOULD SAY IF, IF WE'RE GONNA PUSH THIS FOR A VOTE TODAY AND NOT WAIT ON TART COUNT TO SEE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITIES, THEN UH, THEN I THINK THAT I COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT MAYBE DOING ONE.

BUT I THINK THAT IT'S, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING

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WHAT ABOUT GOING BACK ON THE CONTINGENCY OPTION? THE CONTINGENCY OPTION.

I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT IF A, IF THE PUBLIC APPROVES A, A BOND.

THIS SURE.

THIS FALL IS HOW, HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT US.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN REASONABLE TO HAVE A, AN IDEA ON HOW THAT OUR CONTINGENCY, HOW OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

LEMME DO THIS THEN WOULD BE ON THAT BOND RATING.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DID NOT MEAN TO CONTROL.

NO, IT'S OKAY.

LEMME DO THIS THEN.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME SUPPORT FOR ONE JUDGE.

I'M GONNA AMEND MY MOTION FOR ONE RADIO TOWER BUDGETED SPECIFICALLY AS A RADIO TOWER.

YEAH, I, I THINK BASED ON COMMISSIONER HALE'S, WE VERY WELL TAKEN POINT WITH THE DISCUSSION WITH FORT WORTH AND WE'VE NOT GOT FEEDBACK.

I WOULD, UH, MY MOTION WOULD SECOND WOULD STAND WITH THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? DO YOU UH, COMMISSIONER AHA.

DO YOU STILL THINK WE SHOULD WAIT AND HEAR SOMETHING FROM TARRANT COUNTY OR ARE YOU PREPARED ABSOLUTELY TO VOTE FOR THE ONE? I THINK I'D BE PREPARED TO VOTE FOR ONE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY? YES.

THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ITEM WE'RE TAKING FROM FUND BALANCE.

WE ARE TAKING ITEMS FROM FUND BALANCE THAT ARE NOT ONE TIME PURCHASE.

WE'RE TAKING ITEMS THAT ARE RECURRING FROM FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW, INCLUDED IN THE AMOUNT THAT THIS IS GONNA BOOST THIS UP TOO.

SO THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ITEM WE'RE TAKING FROM FUND BALANCE.

UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN, THE MOTION IS COMMISSIONER, THAT THERE IS, THIS IS FOR AN APPROVAL OF ONE TOWER BUDGETED SPECIFICALLY? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

MY SECOND STANCE.

IS THERE ANYTHING DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE OF ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES 5 4 1.

KIM, YOU DIDN'T WANNA STAND UP THERE FOR THAT WHOLE THING? IT'S OKAY.

I DIDN'T FIGURE Y'ALL WANTED TO STARE AT ME THE WHOLE TIME.

SO, UM, IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE DIFFERENCES ON THOSE RADIOS FOR THOSE FOUR DEPARTMENTS.

ALSO THE INCREASE THAT MOTOROLA SO GRACIOUSLY HANDED US, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSTABLE ONE RADIOS MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

I'M SORRY, CONLEY THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? CURIOUS FIVE VOTE.

ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, AND THERE WOULD BE, UM, EOC HAS ONE RADIO THAT INCREASED.

UM, CONSTABLE THREE HAS TWO AND PATROL HAS TWO AS WELL.

MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? HEARINGS FIVE OH AND THEN THERE'S THE FIXED ASSET PRINTER FOR THE BARCODE LABELS FOR $1,445.

MOTION WILL BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? VARIOUS FIVE.

OH, DO WE WANNA, I DON'T, IS THIS A AGENDA ITEM JUST FOR FUND 10? SO WE CAN GO TO THE FUND 10 ROLLOVER.

UM, THERE WAS A, A CLARIFICATION ON THE PROPERTY INSURANCE CLAIM FOR THE, THE HAILSTORM.

UM, SO OUR TOTAL ALLOWED AMOUNT WAS THE 1.383, UM, MILLION DOLLARS.

BUT WHEN WE ACCEPT THE $500,000 FOR THE AESTHETIC CLAIM, THAT REDUCED THAT AMOUNT DOWN.

SO OUR ACTUAL AMOUNT TOTAL THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE IS 937,000 773 86.

AND THAT'S ON THE ROLLOVERS ON THE SECOND PAGE.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE, UH, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE YOURS FOR YOUR PRECINCT THREE BARN AT ALL? NO.

SPECIFICALLY, UH, I KNOW THAT WHEN THEY WERE HERE, THEY DIDN'T, DIDN'T, UH, UH, IT ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE THE JIM RIGHT.

BUILDING YET.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT.

NO, WE, I'M WAITING ON THAT.

AND WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM HIM, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES, THIS IS JUST PROPERTY, THE VEHICLES YARD ALREADY.

UM, WERE VOTED ON FURTHER UP IN THE SPREADSHEET HERE.

SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT, UH, ONCE THE, UH, UH, ADJUSTER IS ABLE TO COME LOOK AT THAT HOUSE THAT THEY'VE COME TO.

LOOK, WE'RE JUST WAITING BACK FOR THE REPORT.

OKAY? YEP.

ANY TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? HOPEFULLY BETWEEN NOW AND NOW AND WHEN WE MEET AGAIN? I, I'VE TOLD THEM, YEAH.

OKAY.

THEY HAD A LOT OF HELL CLAIMS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT

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OKAY.

SO IF WE COULD, I MEAN, AND THAT THIS IS JUST A NOTIFICATION THAT IT DECREASED BY THAT 400,000.

UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE ARPA ROLLOVERS.

THESE, THIS IS ALL FUND 25, NOT FUND 10.

AND THIS, THESE AMOUNTS ARE ALL IN THE EXISTING BUDGET AND WILL BE ROLLED.

SO IT'S NOT AFFECTING ANY OF RIGHT.

AN INCREASE IN ANYTHING, IT'S JUST A NOTIFICATION.

THESE ARE JUST NOTIFICATIONS YES, SIR.

OF THE ROLLOVERS? YES, SIR.

AND ALL OF THESE ARE ALL BUDGETED OUT, UH, TO BE EXPENDED BY THE END OF 2026? YES SIR.

HOW ABOUT THE TRUCK SERVICE BODY? I WAS GONNA GO BACK TO YOUR TRUCK SERVICE BODY.

SO THE ORIGINAL QUOTE FOR THE SERVICE BODY WAS FOR A SINGLE REAR WHEEL AND THE TRUCK IS A DUALLY.

AND SO WE HAD TO GET AN UPDATED QUOTE FOR THAT.

AND IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 3080 $6 FOR THE PRECINCT FOUR MECHANICS TRUCK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR APPEARS FIVE.

OH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK UPDATE ON, ON THE BUILDING.

I KNOW Y'ALL GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UM, BEFORE I HAD MENTIONED THAT MORNING HAD GIVEN THIS AN ORIGINAL ESTIMATE OF, WAS IT FOUR 30, SOME, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

AND, UM, THEY WENT BACK AND REWORKED THE PROPERTY AND, UM, SOME NEW CONSIDERATIONS.

AND SO NOW THE ESTIMATE IS AT 5 42.

WE ALSO, I'VE ALSO REQUESTED A CONTRACTING WHO DID THE ELECTIONS BUILDING, UH, RENOVATIONS.

I'VE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A PROPOSAL AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, I'M HOPING TO GET THAT BACK BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK FROM THEM.

UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A, A BETTER IDEA HOPEFULLY, AND ALL, ALL OF THIS IN CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE NOT HIRED AN ARCHITECT ENGINEER YET.

SO THOSE COULD CHANGE AS WELL BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE, OR FINDINGS AND REQUIREMENTS WITH ANYTHING THAT CODE AND STUFF.

SO I HAVE REACHED OUT TO JACOB MARTIN AS AN ENGINEER.

THEY ALSO DID THE ELECTIONS BUILDING AND, UM, TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN GIVING US A PROPOSAL FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES.

SO JUST UPDATE ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

DID THEY SEND THAT IN WRITING? MORNING? YEAH.

YES, I CAN FORWARD IT TO YOU.

THANKS KIM.

UH, THE, UH, PARKING LOT AT THE ELECTIONS BUILDING? YES.

179,600.

IS THAT MONEY BEING ROLLED OVER? YES, WE ARE.

OKAY.

DOES YOU THINK, DO YOU THINK THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE INCREASED? I HAVE NO IDEA.

OKAY.

THANKS FOR ASKING THOUGH, .

I HAVE A GOOD IDEA.

I'M GONNA MAKE A A I'M GONNA JUMP OFF HERE BECAUSE OF THE TIME CONSTRAINT.

UH, WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, JUVENILE BOARD DIRECTOR HERE, UH, WHO IS ON A TIME LIMIT.

SO I'M GONNA MOVE TO THE ITEM TWO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION, ON THE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 2.

AND WE'LL RE WE'LL RECONVENE AND THEN PICK BACK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

UH, BUT TO ACCOMMODATE HER SCHEDULE ON THIS JUDGE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM TWO.

JUDGE.

JUDGE, WE GOT KEN, CAN I SNEAK IN BEFORE MY, SHE'S IN BETWEEN DOCKETS.

SHE'S GOT DOCKETS COME ON UP.

I, I, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO I NEED TO FIND A, WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING ON SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO? WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK ON? WELL, WE, I THINK A LIST OF 'EM HERE.

I, I CAN COVER ANY OF THE TOPICS YOU GOT.

LEMME TELL YOU IT WILL BE ON THE S ITEM D ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR, I, I TRIED, ACTUALLY.

I TRIED.

UM, AND I I SAW YOU BACK.

I TRUMP BOARD.

I TRUMP IT.

SORRY.

UH, ITEM, THIS IS ITEM D, SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES.

MINE WILL BE BRIEF.

UH, BACK IN 20 18 20 19, THE JUDGES AND I CAME TO AN UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW WE WOULD PAY COURT COORDINATORS FOR OUR COURTS.

YOU ALL APPROVE THAT.

SO WHAT THAT MEANT WAS IS ALL COURT COORDINATORS WOULD BE PAID THE SAME, THE THREE OFFICES AT THE CCL, ONE, THE FOUR 15TH AND THE 43RD HAVE A, A CHIEF AND AN ASSISTANT.

AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION SINCE 2018 TO PAY THAT ASSISTANT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, UH, THE DELTA OF X AND Z.

SO APPARENTLY THAT DEAL CHANGED AND NOBODY TOLD ME LAST YEAR, OR MAYBE IT WAS BEFORE.

SO THE COURT COORDINATORS FOR CCL ONE AND A COURT COORDINATOR FOR 43RD AND THE FOUR 15TH MAKE AT PRESENT ALMOST $6,000 MORE THAN A COURT COORDINATOR FOR CCL TWO.

AND THE PRESENT INCREASE GOES FORWARD.

A COURT COORDINATOR

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THEY DO THE SAME JOB.

IN FACT, MY MY STAFF IS, DOES, IS, IS CROSS-TRAINED.

SO THEY BOTH DO THE SAME JOB.

SO THEY SWITCH TWO WEEKS ON, TWO WEEKS OFF.

NOT THAT YOU WANT, NOT THAT YOU WANNA KNOW THAT, BUT THERE'S NOT A CHIEF.

THEY BOTH DO THE SAME WORK.

I'VE PAID THEM THE SAME SINCE I WAS THERE.

THAT'S MY PARITY.

AND I WANT MY STAFF TO BE PAID ON PARITY WITH THE COURT COORDINATOR FOR THE OTHER THREE COURTS.

THEY DO THE SAME JOB, THEY SHOULD BE PAID THE SAME.

AND MY COURTS, MY, UH, COUNTY COORDINATOR, AND I DON'T MEAN TO DIS RICH, BUT ACTUALLY GETS PAID $400 LESS THAN RICH.

UM, AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

AND IF THEY'D HAVE BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION LAST YEAR, I'D HAVE BROUGHT IT UP THEN.

AND I DON'T HAVE A LOGICAL REASON OR A GOOD REASON FROM ANYONE WHY MY COURT COORDINATORS WERE PAID LESS THAN THEIRS.

SO I WANT PARODY.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET TO DISCUSSION SECOND.

BUT COMMISSIONER, HALT, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION BASE.

YOU HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC COMING IN AS THE OTHER COURTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

IN FACT, MY COURT HAS ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE WE DO PROBATE, WE DO, WE KICK, WE KICK, UH, ITEMS UP THAT HAVE BEEN CONTESTED AND I DO ALL THE CONTESTED PROBATE AND GUARDIANSHIPS.

SO I HAVE MORE BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, SO I, I GUESS KNOWING THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE THERE, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THAT OCCURRED? HOW THEY I HAVE NO IDEA.

I I I WAS IN, I WAS SANDBAGGED.

CAN WE ASK? I I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER EXPLANATION FOR IT.

I WAS SANDBAGGED.

I I HAVE A FEELING I WELL, I YOU COULD, I WASN'T THERE.