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          [A. Discuss/Take action on renewal of the Local Disaster Declaration. (Judge Deen)]
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          WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, THE AMENDED PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPECIAL AGENDA FOR MONDAY, MAY 4TH, 2026 AT 9:00 AM TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS UNDER ITEM ONE APPROVAL. 
          UNDER ITEM A, DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION, OR RENEWAL OF THE LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION. 
          UM, THIS IS OPEN. 
          I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANNA OPEN THIS WITH ANY DISCUSSION ON FRIDAY? COME BACK TO THAT. 
          WE GET ANY ORDERS TO SIGN FOR FRIDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO DO THAT ONE LAST, OR WE WANNA MOVE BACK TO THIS ONE. 
          WELL, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE ONE ON FRIDAY WAS AN INDETERMINATE EXTENSION. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD TO, I THOUGHT THE ONE ON FRIDAY ALLOWED US TO EXTEND IT WITHOUT HAVING TO REEXTEND IT AGAIN UNTIL WE DECIDED TO CANCEL IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          HE'S TALKING FOR SIGNATURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JUDGE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'LL MOVE TO 
          [B. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on Order #26-20 to amend FY 2026 budget regarding the transfer of funds from Fund Balance under Local Government Code Section 111.070(b), Emergency Transfer of Funds, and authorize the County Auditor to override the budget until the budget adjustment is submitted at the next regularly scheduled meeting. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]
ITEM B TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDER NUMBER 26 DASH 20 TO AMEND FFY 2026 BUDGET REGARDING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM FUND BALANCE UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 1 1 1 0.070 B, EMERGENCY TRANSFER OF FUNDS, AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY AUDITOR TO PROVIDE THE BUDGET UNTIL THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT IS SUBMITTED AT THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING. 
          KIM GOT YOUR NAME ON IT. 
          WE GOTTA GO TO SOMEBODY. 
          SO, UM, I HANDED OUT, UM, WHAT BRIANNA HAD PUT TOGETHER TO YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST PAGE SHOWS THAT WE HAD A, A FUND BALANCE OF $50 MILLION AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 2025, BUT WE USE 17 OF THAT TO BALANCE THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE OR CURRENT BUDGET. 
          SO IT WOULD LEAVE A BALANCE OF 33,000 OR 33 MILLION. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE 1.1 MILLION CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN CONTINGENCY AFTER, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAD BEEN EARMARKED FOR OTHER ITEMS. SO YOU SAID 1.1 OR 1.7? 1.1. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          UM, JASON HAS PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A DRAFT OR, OR WHAT HE THINKS THAT OUR EXPENSES COULD BE. 
          I'LL LET HIM. 
          GOOD MORNING JASON. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, I WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT, UM, ALL OF OUR DAMAGE NUMBERS, UM, AND TO TRY TO ESTIMATE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF DEBRIS, UH, AND OTHER EXPENSES. 
          AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, BROKE IT DOWN BY CATEGORIES AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, NO, YOU DIDN'T. 
          WHAT WE, WHAT I CAME UP WITH WAS, UH, ABOUT 4 MILLION, UM, ON THE DEBRIS COSTS. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR SOME PURCHASES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE ESTIMATES ON CALCULATING VEGETATIVE DEBRIS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S MODELS FOR HOW YOU DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT THEY VARY FAIRLY WIDELY. 
          SO, UH, SO I TOOK A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD APPROACH THERE AND, UH, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE ODDS ARE THAT THE DEBRIS COSTS WILL END UP BEING LESS THAN THE NUMBER I'M GUESSING, BUT, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS, UH, MORE DEBRIS THAN YOU THINK. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT I CAME UP WITH AS A MIDPOINT, UM, USING SOME OF THE METHODOLOGY THAT, UH, THE STATE RECOMMENDS ON CALCULATING THAT METHODOLOGY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT BURNING THE, THE VEGETATIVE DEBRIS, WHICH WILL REDUCE COST SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          UM, BUT THE C AND D COST IS, IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE GOT TO TRANSPORT THAT A, A LONG WAYS TO GET RID OF IT. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND A LOT OF THAT'S COMING IN. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'VE GOT A STATE FINANCE FOLKS GONNA GET WITH OUR FOLKS HERE TO WORK THROUGH, UH, THIS AFTER START WORKING ON THIS AFTERNOON, A, UH, A BURN RATE ON HOW FAST, UH, WE'RE USING THE, HOW, HOW FAST WE'RE BURNING THROUGH CASH TO PAY FOR THE 
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CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION DEBRIS. 
          MOST OF THE EXPENSE ON THE VEGETATIVE SIDE OF THINGS IS GONNA BE, UH, SUNK COSTS FROM COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND, AND, AND TIME WE'LL HAVE FUEL, WE'LL HAVE WEAR AND TEAR ON EQUIPMENT, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, C AND D IS THE, IS THE BIG ONE THAT COSTS A LOT. 
          SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT I CAME UP WITH. 
          AND I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T BRING ALL THAT INFORMATION, UH, HOW I, ALL MY RATIONALE FOR THAT. 
          BUT I CAN GET THAT TO YOU, UM, UH, IF THAT HELPS Y'ALL'S CALCULUS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST COMMENT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED YOU TO SEE YOUR, YOUR CALCULATION METHOD. 
          WE, WE NEED AN ESTIMATE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN EDUCATED ESTIMATE, SO, OKAY. 
          APPRECIATE THE WORK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I, I I WOULD JUST, UM, AM I SEEING THAT, UH, CONTAINED THEREIN IS THE, IS THESE, UH, BURNERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE INCINERATORS AND THAT TDM HAS ONE WE CAN USE? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT 'CAUSE I REQUESTED THAT LAST WEEK. 
          UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SENDING THAT UP HERE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN OPERATOR UP HERE TO HELP US WITH THE SITE LOCATION, MAKE SURE THEY'RE SET OFF DISTANCES AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO, UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO NOT GET HERE FOR A FEW WEEKS DUE TO, UH, MOISTURE CONTENT IN THE VEGETATION. 
          'CAUSE IT BURNS BETTER, OBVIOUSLY. 
          SURE. 
          UH, WHEN IT'S DRY. 
          SO WE'LL GET THE USE OF ONE OF THOSE. 
          UM, I THINK ON A, ON A, ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM HERE IS, UH, A COUPLE OF THE INCINERATORS, UH, THAT, UH, PURCHASING HAS DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE ON COSTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO THAT WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY WITH, UM, GETTING RID OF ALL THAT VEGETATION. 
          AND ALSO, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A CLOCK THERE THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO GET RID OF THAT VEGETATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE, UH, HERE FAIRLY QUICKLY IT'S GONNA QUIT RAINING AND THEN WE RUN INTO THE WILDFIRE CONCERNS. 
          UM, SO WE WANNA TRY TO GET AS MUCH OF THAT GONE AS WE, AS FAST AS WE CAN. 
          THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT, WE HAVE THESE BURNERS THAT WE CAN STILL BURN IN THE SUMMERTIME. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OR? YES. 
          YES. 
          THEY, UH, THEY, THEY, THEY FORCE AIR, UM, IN THERE SO THAT IT BURNS MORE EFFICIENTLY SO YOU GET LESS EMBERS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          UM, VERSUS AN OPEN PILE THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT TILL IT BURNS DOWN AND IT'S LETTING OFF EMBERS AND, AND THAT STUFF AS YOU GO. 
          SO YOU'RE FORCING AIR IN THERE, IT BURNS MORE EFFICIENTLY, YOU GET LESS EMBERS. 
          SO YOU GET LESS RISK FOR, FOR WILDFIRES FROM, FROM THAT SORT OF OPERATION. 
          AND IT'S CLEANER. 
          THERE'S LESS SMOKE AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN'T USE THE ONE FROM THE STATE AT PRECINCT ONE. 
          THE SET OFF DISTANCES ARE TOO NARROW. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE 340 FOOT FROM A BUILDING AND JUST THE NATURE OF HOW HIS, HIS OPERATION IS SET UP OUT THERE, THAT'S, BUT IF WE BUY ONE, IS IT THREE 40 FROM A BUILDING OR FROM A PROPERTY LINE BUILDING BUILDING? NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT PROPERTY LINE, BUT I KNOW IT'S FROM A BUILDING. 
          BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LIMITING FACTOR AT PRECINCT ONE IS THE BUILDING. 
          WHAT ABOUT A ROAD? IS IT THREE 40 FROM THE ROAD AS WELL? BUT IF WE BUY ONE, IT'S DIFFERENT RULES. 
          SO I, I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THAT BECAUSE, UM, I'M HOPING TO GET, UH, AN EXPERT ON THESE THINGS DOWN TO COME HELP US WITH THE SIDING AND CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE KIND OF ISSUES WITH ROADS, PROPERTY LINES, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          WE HAVE THAT LOCATION THAT YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT THE ONLY THING WHICH MIGHT BE CLOSE ENOUGH IS A TRANSMISSION LINE, BUT YES, IT'S EXTREMELY HIGH THERE. 
          YES. 
          AND IT WOULD NOT BE DIRECTLY UNDER IT. 
          IT WOULD BE OFFSET. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU THAT PROBABLY WILL BE OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO BRING IN THIS, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TUESDAY OR UH, OUR DEBRIS PERSON, AND THEN WE CAN TUESDAY AS IN TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK? TUESDAY FOR AS TOMORROW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. 
          SO, UH, SO A FINANCE PERSON, I'VE REQUESTED SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE, UM, FROM PERSONNEL WISE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONAL AND STRUCTURAL AND HOW WE SET UP THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS. 
          SO I GOT A FINANCE PERSON COMING THIS AFTERNOON. 
          UM, AND THEN TOMORROW, UH, 
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WE HAVE A DEBRIS EXPERT FROM THE STATE THAT'S GONNA COME IN AND WE CAN PIN DOWN SOME OF THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OPERATIONS ONGOING AT A COUPLE OF PRECINCT BARNS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME TEMPORARY STAGING SITES IDENTIFIED. 
          HOW DO, WHAT DOES ALL THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE ORGANIZE THAT? UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA HELP WITH THAT AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER, ASK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIDINGS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          BUT WE'RE ALSO HOPING TO GET THE AIR CURTAIN EXPERT DOWN HERE TO HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO CAN HE ADDRESS ALSO TO, I THINK WHERE COMMISSIONER COLLIN WAS GOING WITH THIS? IS IT 340 FEET FROM A PICTURE, FROM THE ONE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE STATE? WHAT IF WE BUY ONE? IS IT THE SAME RULE TO THAT AND TO, IF YOU HAVE A BURNER, IT IS 340 FEET. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT IS, UH, SOME OF THAT DEPENDS ON THE MAKE AND MODEL OF THE BURNER AND SOME OF THAT SORT OF THING TOO. 
          AND A LOT OF THAT IS MORE OF A FIRE MARSHAL ISSUE, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          YES. 
          THE STATE HAS THEIR OWN REQUIREMENTS IF YOU'RE USING THE STATE'S MACHINE. 
          IF WE PURCHASE OUR OWN, SO COULD, IT COULD CHANGE. 
          WE HAVE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE AT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S DISCRETION. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S A THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A BETTER WAY, BUT EXPLAINING THAT THAN I DID. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO THE, THE, THE BENEFIT TO THE AIR CURTAIN, WE, WE'VE DONE A QUITE A BIT OF LOOKING INTO IT, IS YOU CAN BURN EVEN ON NO BURN DAYS. 
          NOW IF IT'S 104 WITH 25 MILE AN HOUR WIND, PROBABLY NOT A GREAT IDEA TO BURN THAT DAY. 
          BUT IT PROCESSES ABOUT 40 TIMES FASTER THAN AN OPEN BURN. 
          YOU CAN, THE MODEL WE'RE LOOKING AT PROCESSES SEVEN TO NINE TONS AN HOUR RUNS ON DIESEL. 
          IT CAN BE MOVED AROUND, UM, IF YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO DIFFERENT STOCKPILE YARDS OR SOMETHING. 
          AND, UH, IT IS FAR MORE APPEALING TO TCEQ AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT DOES, UM, LESS, YEAH. 
          LESS SMOKE, UH, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO, HEY, JUDGE, IF I MIGHT, UM, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING THAT ARE QUESTIONING, UH, WHO'S PAYING FOR THIS. 
          AND SO QUESTIONS THAT I GET IS, YOU KNOW, IS THE, IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYING FOR THE CLEANUP? IS THE STATE STATE PAYING FOR THE CLEANUP? OR IS WHO IS, AND I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO EXPLORE THOSE AND DISCUSS THOSE JUST BRIEFLY WITH JASON WHILE HE'S, WE'VE GOT HIM HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT ANYBODY THAT'S PAYING ATTENTION HERE, WATCHING ONLINE MIGHT UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY WE'LL TAKE SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT WE WILL TAKE. 
          WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY THE PRUDENT NEXT DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF EMAILS. 
          I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF YOU, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE RECEIVED ON THIS. 
          SO JASON, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, THE WAY WHAT MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT DISASTERS IS, IS THAT, UM, WHAT THEY'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS AND THAT SORT OF THING IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A DISASTER, FEMA WILL COME IN AND CUT EVERYBODY CHECKS AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING. 
          WELL, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. 
          SO, UH, THE WAY THAT WORKS IS, UM, WHEN THERE IS A DISASTER, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE CAN SIGN A DISASTER DECLARATION, WHICH WE'VE DONE, AND THEN THE STATE COMES IN AND EVALUATES THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES, UH, NUMBER OF HOMES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE ARE DESTROYED, UH, MINOR DAMAGE MM-HMM . 
          OR AFFECTED LOOKS AT THE DEBRIS INFORMATION TO FIGURE OUT IF IT MEETS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. 
          AND THERE'S TWO THRESHOLDS. 
          THERE'S A COUNTY THRESHOLD, WHICH IS FOR PARKER COUNTY, ABOUT 740,000, UM, WHICH WE MEET. 
          UM, THEN THERE IS ALSO A STATEWIDE THRESHOLD. 
          AND THAT STATEWIDE THRESHOLD INCLUDES ALL THOSE SAME NUMBERS FROM PARKER COUNTY, PA, PINTO COUNTY, WISE COUNTY, JOHNSON COUNTY, WHO WERE ALL AFFECTED AND HAD TORNADOES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAME STORMS THAT WE DID. 
          SO THAT STATE THRESHOLD IS $56 MILLION. 
          SO, UM, FROM TALKING TO THE STATE, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE COMBINED ALL OF OUR COUNTIES, WE HAVE NOT MET THAT $56 MILLION THRESHOLD. 
          SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE IS NO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY TO COME IN AND HELP PAY FOR ANYTHING. 
          SO, SO HOWEVER, UH, THE STATE, UH, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE STATE COME AND HELP US MANAGE THIS. 
          AND I'VE, WE'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT, UM, WITH VARIOUS EXPERTS AND KEEPING TRACK OF DOCUMENTATION AND, UM, HELPING US SET UP, UH, VOLUNTEERING DONATION SITES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          SO WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE STATE, BUT THE STATE IS NOT SET UP TO 
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PAY FOR THIS EITHER. 
          SO ULTIMATELY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS THAT ALL DISASTERS ARE LOCAL, AND WE'RE THE ONES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THIS TIME. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE ON PARKER COUNTY TO, TO, TO HELP WITH THIS, TO COVER THIS AS BEST WE CAN. 
          AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, UM, THERE'S LIMITED RESOURCES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. 
          SO THERE'S NO CALVARY COMING IN TO SAVE THE DAY, UH, TO HELP WITH THIS. 
          HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES HERE IN PARKER COUNTY, UH, WE HAVE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE, I HAVEN'T GOT AN OFFICIAL WORD YET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL RECEIVE, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          UM, AND IF THAT COMES THROUGH, WHICH WE THINK IT WILL, THEN IT OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS TO GET LOW INTEREST LOANS TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THEIR COSTS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOST A ROOF, UM, ON YOUR HOUSE AND YOU NEED TO GET THAT REPAIRED, AND YOU HAVE INSURANCE, THAT'S STILL A PRETTY BIG HIT ON YOUR POCKETBOOK. 
          SO THESE SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANT LOANS WILL ALLOW RESIDENTS TO TAKE LOW INTEREST LOANS TO COVER MAYBE THE COST OF THAT DEDUCTIBLE. 
          THEY LOST A VEHICLE IN THIS AND THEY NEED TO REPLACE IT. 
          YOU CAN GET LOW INTEREST LOANS TO COVER THOSE SORTS OF EXPENSES ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS. 
          IT WILL HELP PAY FOR, FOR REPAIRS. 
          UH, THEY CAN DO LOANS TO RECO, UH, TO REBUILD INVENTORY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LOST. 
          UM, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO, IF THEY NEED TO COVER SOME WAGES OR EXPENSES THAT THE BUSINESS OCCURRED, YOU CAN GET LOANS FOR THAT. 
          SO, AND THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES? ABSOLUTELY, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND REAL QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE 56 MILLION STATE THRESHOLD THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S UNINSURED LOSSES OR DAMAGE TO COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU COUNT UP ALL OF THE INSURED LOSSES. 
          YES, I'M SURE THIS, WE'RE OVER THAT. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND, UH, NOT, NOT EVERYBODY HA HAS INSURANCE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          UM, BUT, UH, FOR THOSE THAT DO, UM, SO SAY YOU LOST YOUR ENTIRE HOME, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER ADDS UP TO, IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE THAT WON'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT $56 MILLION THRESHOLD. 
          AND FORTUNATELY, UM, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO DAMAGE TO INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, HERE IN PARKER COUNTY, WE'D HAD VERY MINIMAL, IF ANY DAMAGES, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY, YOU MAY HAVE LOST SOME ROAD SIGNS, UM, UP NEAR SPRINGTOWN SOMEWHERE. 
          SAME THING IN PRECINCT TWO, BUT WE DIDN'T LOSE ANY COUNTY BUILDINGS. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T, UH, LOSE RADIO TOWER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, SO THE LOSS TO COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE IS FAIRLY MINIMAL. 
          SO I AM STILL TRYING TO PURSUE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS, UM, THAT WE CAN COUNT TOWARDS THAT 56 MILLION HOPING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MEET THAT. 
          BUT, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE GUIDANCE THAT I'M GETTING FROM THE STATE IS WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA HIT THAT NUMBER. 
          NOW, I'M, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I'M NOT BEING CREATIVE ON HOW WE GET TO THAT $56 MILLION WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME, SOME COSTS THAT THE STATE HAS NOT CALCULATED YET THAT I'M TRYING TO GET SHOEHORNED INTO THAT 56 MILLION THRESHOLD TO HOPEFULLY HIT THAT NUMBER. 
          CAN, CAN I ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS ALONG THESE SAME LINES? SURE. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THE DAMAGE FOR THESE FOLKS THAT DO HAVE DEDUCTIBLES, WOULD THE DEDUCTIBLE BE THAT NUMBER BE APPLICABLE? YES. 
          TOWARDS THE 56 MILLION IT WOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, UH, THE DEDUCTIBLE WOULD BE, BUT ALSO, UH, ANY DOLLARS THAT ARE UNDERINSURED LOSSES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          SO, SO IF, UH, SO JUST JUST TO KEEP THE MATH EASY, IF, IF YOU OWNED PROPERTY THAT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND IT WAS INSURED FOR YOU, YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH YOUR UP WITH INFLATION AND THAT SORT OF THING, REPLACEMENT MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU ONLY HAD ONLY PAYS FOR 75,000. 
          WELL, THAT 25,000 WOULD BE AN UNDERINSURED AMOUNT YES. 
          THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP US GET TO THAT THRESHOLD, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR SOME DOLLARS TO GO. 
          BUT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE WORKED, UH, TORNADOES LIKE THIS BEFORE AND SENT OUT SURVEYS TO FOLKS AND EVEN WITH THE UNDERINSURED NUMBERS, UH, TO, TO TRY TO GATHER THAT. 
          'CAUSE IT'S, THAT'S A HARD NUMBER TO GET TO. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY INDIVIDUAL'S INSURANCE POLICY SAYS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO I'VE DONE SURVEYS AFTER, AFTER TORNADOES 
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LIKE THIS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE ARE SOME GAPS THERE, UH, FOR FOLKS THAT HAVEN'T RIGHT. 
          SIZED THEIR INSURANCE POLICY. 
          UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, DEBRIS REMOVAL, IT'S GONNA TAKE FOUR ROLL OFF BOXES TO HAUL IT ALL OFF, BUT THEY ONLY GET ONE ON THEIR POLICY. 
          SO THAT'S AN UNDERINSURED NUMBER. 
          UM, BUT WHEN I, WHEN I'VE DONE SURVEYS ON THIS, UM, WITH ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT NUMBER OF DAMAGES, UM, IT WAS PRETTY, IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $56 MILLION NUMBER, THAT'S A VERY BAR HIGH BAR TO GET TO. 
          AND IT DID NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THAT WHEN I'VE DONE THIS IN, IN YEARS PAST. 
          UM, BUT IT IS, UH, I'VE GOT SOME, UH, SOME AVENUES THAT I'M PURSUING TO THAT I THINK WILL GET SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WORTH ADDED TO THAT $56 MILLION THRESHOLD. 
          BUT I HAVEN'T, THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS. 
          ANOTHER POINT ALONG THIS SAME TOPIC IS, SO SAY IF SOMEBODY'S ROOF IS A CERTAIN AGE AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY STOPS INSURING THEM AT REPLACEMENT COSTS AND THEY GO TO A, A CASH VALUE, SAY, OKAY, THE, THAT WOULD, THE HOMEOWNER STILL HAS TO REPLACE THAT ROOF AND THERE CAN BE SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE HOMEOWNER THERE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THAT CAN BE APPLIED AS WELL FOR THE UN UNDERINSURED NUMBER. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, SAME THING. 
          YOU WERE STATING THAT AUTO INVENTORY STRUCTURES YES. 
          AND THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, UH, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, YOU THINK OF SMALL BUSINESSES, THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, BUT THESE, THIS, THAT FUNDING, UM, IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS TO COVER EVERYDAY EXPENSES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I MEAN, IT'S A LOW INTEREST LOAN, UH, BUT IT IS ONE AVENUE WITH, WITH INTEREST RATES THE WAY THEY ARE, IT'S AN AVENUE THAT'S POTENTIALLY, UH, VERY HOPEFUL, UM, TO HELP COVER THAT. 
          AND, AND THOSE, THOSE LOANS CAN BE $500, UM, UP TO I THINK 250,000. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL, UH, LIFELINE TO, TO HELP FOLKS THAT MAY BE IN THE BUYING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT RESIDENTS THAT, UH, THAT, UH, AT RV PARKS, WE HAD SOME DAMAGE AT RV PARKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND IF THAT WAS NOT INSURED, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT GET YOU A DOWN PAYMENT TO GET YOU A, A NEW, NEW RV YEAH. 
          AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO, UM, SO EVEN SMALL LOANS UP TO $500, BECAUSE $500 IS A BIG HIT FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE. 
          UM, SO, UH, AT LEAST YOU HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO, TO TAP INTO THAT. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A WAY TO HELP STEER PEOPLE WHERE TO GO? LIKE WHO, HOW ARE WE? YEAH. 
          SO, SO WE HAVE ALL THESE OFFICE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, UH, DISASTER ASSISTANCE CENTER SET UP AT THE METHOD, UH, METHODIST CHURCH HERE IN NORTH PART OF WEATHERFORD. 
          'CAUSE WE ALSO, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS MM-HMM . 
          WHICH OCCURRED. 
          WE HAVE MINE WELLS IN PARKER COUNTY, AND THEN WE HAVE UP IN SPRINGTOWN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, UH, UH, AT, UH, AND I'M GOING TO, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO GET THE NAME RIGHT, BUT IT'S HOW COUCH METHODIST CHURCH HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OFF OF ELM STREET NORTH. 
          UM, THAT'S OPEN. 
          WE'VE GOT AGENCIES THERE THAT ARE OFF THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP FOLKS. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY CAN GO THERE, UM, AND GET FACE-TO-FACE, TALK TO SOMEBODY TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ALSO, UM, AS PART OF THE, UH, I STAT DAMAGE ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT WE PUSHED OUT VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER MEANS, UM, IN THAT I STAT TOOL, THERE'S THE ABILITY TO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE ON WHAT YOU MAY NEED HELP WITH THAT GETS FILTERED THROUGH. 
          AND ALL THESE NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT ARE HELPING OUT CAN SEE THAT IT GENERATES A WORK ORDER AND THEY CAN MATCH UP THE NONPROFIT GROUP THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THE PERSON THAT HAS THE NEED. 
          AND IT'S, UH, UH, A VIRTUAL WAY TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO TALK TO A PERSON. 
          BUT A LOT OF FOLKS WANNA GO TALK TO A PERSON. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS THERE, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY HELPFUL TOOL. 
          YES, I SAW THAT. 
          SO, THANKS. 
          IT, IT, IT IS, UM, THE, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT, THAT WANNA HELP. 
          UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST MATCH THOSE UP WITH WHERE THOSE NEEDS ARE. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS. 
          SURE. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS. 
          SO THAT'S THE, 
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THAT'S THE BEST MECHANISM. 
          SO IF YOU DO HAVE, UM, UH, YOU NEED SOME HELP WITH SOMETHING, UH, PUTTING THAT INFORMATION IN THE I-STAT DAMAGE ASSESSMENT TOOL, WE'LL MATCH THAT UP WITH, UH, WHERE THE NONPROFITS CAN SEE THAT AND THEN SIGN UP TO, TO HELP WITH THAT. 
          AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF, UH, GOING TO THE DAMAGE ASSISTANCE CENTER AT THE METHODIST CHURCH HERE IN WEATHERFORD. 
          AND AS, AS SOON AS THE SBA, UH, APPROVES THAT, UM, UH, WHICH, WHICH I, I WOULD ANTICIPATE PROBABLY GETTING THAT APPROVAL TODAY. 
          UM, THE STATE'S ALREADY ASKING ME WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT THOSE SBA FOLKS. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S A PRETTY POSITIVE SIGN SO WE CAN GET THAT MATCHED UP. 
          UM, AND, UH, PROBABLY GONNA HOUSE THAT AT, UH, THE METHODIST CHURCH THERE IN WEATHERFORD FOR THE SBA TO BE HERE. 
          THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM, WE THINK, WHERE FOLKS CAN GO HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FINANCIAL STUFF, UH, THAT WE DON'T WANT EVERYBODY HAVING, BEING PRIVY TO. 
          SO LOOKS LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE THERE. 
          UH, AND HOPING TO GET THAT WORD OUT AS SOON AS THE SBA AUTHORIZES THAT HOPEFULLY TODAY WE'LL PUSH THAT OUT, UM, UH, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, THROUGH OUR VARIOUS PARTNERS. 
          I'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THEM TO REPOST STUFF THAT GETS POSTED SO THAT IT GETS THE BROADEST AUDIENCE POSSIBLE SO THAT, UH, WE CAN GET THAT WORD OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AS BEST WE CAN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BRIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND JUST GIVE A ADD ON TO THE KIND OF CONTINUE, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INTERACTED WITH JASON QUITE A BIT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, JASON. 
          AND I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A DEAL HERE I NEED TO ASK THE COUNSELOR ABOUT BRINGING UP ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, ITEM B. 
          YOU WANT ME TO DISCUSS THAT? SURE. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE WERE CHARGING INITIALLY FOR SOME CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, AND I THINK, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S REQUEST, IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT, IS YES. 
          IS TO INCLUDE REIMBURSEMENT FOR SOME OF THOSE INITIAL CHARGES FOR, I HAVE SIX PEOPLE HERE THAT WE CHARGE AN, AN OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I WANT TO GIVE THEIR MONEY BACK. 
          AND I JUST GOT CONFIRMATION THAT, UH, I'LL READ THIS. 
          IT'S FROM THE, UH, CREDIT CARD COMPANY. 
          IT SAYS THAT, UH, THE REFUNDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED, DEPENDING ON THE INDIVIDUAL'S BANK, THEY COULD SEE THE REFUND WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          SO DEPENDING ON WHAT BANK THEY'RE USING, THESE SIX PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR MONEY BACK. 
          I, I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR MONEY BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I'D GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT IN COURT TO REIMBURSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          SO MOVED MOTION MAY BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, THANK COMMISSIONER HALE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION I GOT, I'LL READ SOME OF THESE OFF. 
          ONE GUY WAS CHARGED 553 BUCKS FOR TRUCKLOAD OF STUFF, AND ANOTHER GUY WAS 553, ANOTHER 500, TWO DIFFERENT ONES, $553, THEN A HUNDRED EIGHTY FOUR, A HUNDRED TWENTY THREE, A HUNDRED TWENTY THREE. 
          JUST TO ME THAT'S OUTRATED. 
          BUT LEMME ASK FOR MY, FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, I WAS TOLD THAT, THAT THESE, THESE WERE SIMPLY PASSED THROUGH FEES ON WHAT THE COUNTY'S CHARGED FOR OUR DISPOSAL IN THE BEGINNING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO FOR THE RECORD, PARKER COUNTY WAS NOT PROFITING OFF OF THESE NUMBERS IN, UH, IN THIS TIME. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A PROFESSIONAL GROUP THAT HAD COME IN TO MAKE THOSE ASSESSMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE WE, I'M SORRY. 
          ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS ON IT, WE HAD MONITORS TO COME OUT AND KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH C AND D THESE GUYS HAVE, AND IT'S TWO YARDS, THREE YARDS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM C, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GOT IT. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, UM, THIS IS A SIMPLY PASS THROUGH CHARGE THAT THE LANDFILL'S CHARGING US FOR TIPPING FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, THE BULK OF THE ASK IS GOING TO BE FOR CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. 
          SO YOUR ROOF SHINGLES, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS FROM A, FROM A COLLAPSED HOUSE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL THESE PRICES WERE JUST DEBRIS, NOT, NOT BRUSH. 
          IT REPRESENTS NEARLY 50% OF THE ASK IS CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS CLEANUP. 
          AND AS JASON POINTED OUT, THERE'S NO CALVARY ON THE, THE WAY, THERE'S NO STATE FUNDING FOR THIS. 
          AND SO, UH, I KIND OF COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND LEADING WHEN, WHEN NO ONE ELSE DID. 
          ARE WE ABLE TO, TO KEEP TIGHT, TIGHT REIGNS ON MAKING SURE THESE AREN'T CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CHARGING FOLKS AND MAKING MONEY 
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AND THEN SHOWING UP AND TRYING TO DUMP IT FOR FREE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE MONITORS ARE GONNA DO. 
          OKAY. 
          TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, UM, ON ITEM, WHATEVER ITEM THAT IS. 
          ITEM C OH, SORRY. 
          YEAH, SORRY. 
          THESE FIVE PEOPLE WERE JUST INDIVIDUALS, THEY WEREN'T MM-HMM . 
          COMMERCIAL PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          JUDGE, WE GOT A ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONE OTHER POINT, AND, AND BECKY CAN SPEAK TO THIS, THIS IS GONNA DRAW DOWN, AND I JUST WANT THIS ON THE RECORD SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND THIS, UH, THIS IS GONNA DRAW DOWN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF YOUR FUND BALANCE. 
          UM, ROUGHLY 10%, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          12.07 IS WHAT I GOT. 
          . 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S A BIG CHUNK. 
          IT'S A HUGE CHUNK. 
          AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REITERATE, UH, STATE TEXAS IS NOT COMING INTO TO, UH, REIMBURSE US FOR THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UH, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S NEW HERE, THAT'S A GOOD TESTIMONY TO YOU AND TO YOU, THE FINANCIAL TEAM, BECKY AND, AND BRIANNA AND KIM, UH, THAT YOU GUYS AND CAN HANDLE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, UH, WHEN IT COMES UP AND IT ARISES. 
          I THINK I JUST, ONE THING TO ADD TO THAT, THAT'S REALLY A BIG REASON WHY WE HAVE THAT FUND IS TO STEP UP AND SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS, OUR TAXPAYERS, AND, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA USE THAT FUND FOR ANYTHING, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD BE USED FOR, SIR, I WOULD SAY RAINY DAY FUNDS ARE FOR A RAINY DAY. 
          AND IF THIS ISN'T A RAINY DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS, IT'S RAINING THE ARMY. 
          WELL SAID. 
          UM, JUST A REAL QUICK, ANY AMOUNT OF THAT FUND BALANCE THAT Y'ALL DRAW DOWN FOR EMERGENCY, IF ANY REMAINING WILL GO BACK UNDER THE FUND BALANCE. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          COMMISSIONER HELD, TO YOUR POINT, WE ARE ALLOWING CONTRACTORS TO DROP OFF VEGETATION ONLY AT THE PRECINCT TWO BARN FOR BURNING. 
          UM, WE ARE REQUESTING, THEY CHECK IN AND THEY PROVIDE US THE ADDRESS OF THE HOMEOWNER THAT THAT BRUSH CAME FROM. 
          THAT'S A CONTROL WE'VE PUT IN PLACE TO TRY TO ASSIST WITH KEEPING THAT CLEAN. 
          WE TALKED THROUGH DOING MORE OR DOING LESS, DOING MORE. 
          I MEAN, HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT THEY DIDN'T CHARGE? THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY TOUGH. 
          UM, JUST A THOUGHT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH THE TIRES IS, IS WE, UH, GET A COPY OF THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE WHEN THEY COME IN, AND THAT SEEMS TO KIND OF HAVE SOME EFFECT ON THE, THE ONES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE WANT TO, UH, BREAK THE RULES AND WE HAVE A COPY OF THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND ATTACH THAT TO THE PAPERWORK THAT WE FILL OUT WHENEVER THEY COME IN. 
          WELL, I KNOW THOSE CONTRACTORS CAN CHARGE QUITE A BIT FOR THAT, FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES AND BRANCHES AND DEBRIS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IT'D BE NICE TO TRY AND GET THIS WORD OUT TO THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, I I GUARANTEE YOU THAT'S A GRAY AREA THAT FOLKS WILL BE EXPLOITING. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T MEAN THE HOMEOWNER NECESSARILY. 
          I MEAN THE FOLKS, THE CONTRACTOR. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE FOR ME BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE HOUSE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, UH, AND THE DEBRIS THAT IS GENERATED WHEN YOU GO BACK TO RECONSTRUCT THE HOUSE TOO, IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE THERE. 
          AND, UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, HAS THERE BEEN A CONSIDERATION FOR A TIMEFRAME TO, UH, TO ACCEPT CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND SAY THAT IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT IT? OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE OPEN-ENDED? ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES, SIR. 
          I, I THINK THE MEMO JASON PUT TOGETHER, UH, IS A 60 DAY PERIOD FOR THIS MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEN IF IT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED, WE CAN COME BACK TO COURT AND EXTENDED, UH, BEYOND THAT, OR WE CAN BE A 30 OR 45 DAY PERIOD. 
          I TH BUT I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT, LARRY, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A, A TIMEFRAME ON THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM SOME PEOPLE UP TO A YEAR PROBABLY TO GET ALL THAT DONE. 
          HOW LONG WE ARE WE GONNA EXTEND IT? IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT MORE THAN 30 OR 60 DAYS THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT'S SEPARATED FROM THE STRUCTURE RIGHT. 
          IS WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO ACCEPT. 
          UH, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THAT COULD BE DONE IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR MOST FOLKS. 
          SOME OF THEM HOUSES HAVE GOTTA BE TORE DOWN. 
          WELL, ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THE WHOLE HOUSE, IS WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU. 
          WELL ACCEPT THE ENTIRE HOUSE WHEN THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA DISCUSS. 
          I'VE GOT AN EVENT CENTER THAT IT WIPED OUT AND HE'S WANTING TO BRING ALL THAT STUFF TO US. 
          THE OTHER IS, IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE INSURANCE COVERAGE 
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THERE? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO DISCUSS THERE. 
          I, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ACCEPT THE HOUSE BEING TORN DOWN OR A STRUCTURE BEING TORN DOWN AND, AND HAL TO YOUR HALT TO YOUR, UH, BARN FOR US TO, FOR US TO COUNSELOR, HOW DO WE REGULATE THAT? THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE COURT AS A WHOLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. 
          WHAT, IT'S UP TO US. 
          IF THE STATE LOOKS AT IT AS UNINSURED, THEN I THINK THAT, THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SOLID REASONING BEHIND THAT. 
          THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          MAYBE ADOPTING THAT TYPE OF A, AN APPROACH. 
          UM, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF, IF, IF THE THE PERIOD IS EXTENDED OVER A A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE TIRED. 
          YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE GONNA BE TEARING AN ENTIRE HOUSE DOWN AND HAULING IT TO YOU TRACK. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          I, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID ABOUT HAVING THE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THE, AND THE COMPANY NAME AND MAINTAINING A FILE ON WHO COMES IN IS YOU'LL KNOW IF SOMEONE IS, IS, UH, ABUSING THE SYSTEM BY DOING THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN A ADEQUATE RECORDS OF WHO'S BRINGING THAT STUFF IN AND, AND THE LOCATION THAT IT'S COMING FROM, AND, AND, UH, IF THE, IF THE SAME ONES KEEP COMING IN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEE THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE. 
          WELL, LIKE THIS EVENT CENTER, I KNOW THEY HAVE INSURANCE. 
          WELL, SO DO WE STILL TAKE THEIR STUFF? YOU DON'T WANNA SUBSIDIZE INSURANCE? NO. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU END UP DOING IF YOU TAKE IT FOR FREE AND THERE'S INSURANCE PAYMENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY TO WORK OUT THAT THEY PAY THE EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY IF THEY, DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE? HEY, MR. LANE, DO YOU KNOW IF SOME OF THESE FOLKS COMING IN FROM THE STATE WOULD HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY OR SOFTWARE YES. 
          OR TECH, UM, SOMETHING TO HELP? YES. 
          WITH THIS, UM, THE, UH, I CAN DEFINITELY, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CLEANUP NOW IN KERRVILLE. 
          SO, SO THIS ISN'T THEIR FIRST RODEO OUT WITH THAT. 
          SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THEY'VE SEEN BEFORE AND HOW, HOW THEY ADDRESS THAT. 
          UM, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU ALSO, UM, IS FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE INSURED, IF THEY HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO COME TEAR DOWN THEIR DESTROYED HOUSE OR WHAT'S LEFT OF IT AND HAUL IT OFF, GENERALLY THEY TAKE THAT DIRECTLY TO THE LANDFILL, UM, IN, IN MOST CASES. 
          UM, BECAUSE THEY CAN HANDLE THE THROUGHPUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA BRING IN, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES 2020 ROLL OFF PLUS AT A TIME TO DO THAT. 
          SO, SO A LOT OF TIMES THE, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE INSURANCE, OR EVEN IF YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR AS PART OF THAT, WHAT THAT COST IS, THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THE LANDFILL. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LANDFILL IN PARKER COUNTY, SO THAT JUST ADDS TO THE EXPENSE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S SO EXPENSIVE PER YARD, IS THAT THAT STUFF HAS TO BE HAULED. 
          I THINK, I THINK JOHNSON COUNTY, I THINK, UH, WAS, WAS WHAT OUR CONTRACT IS FOR LANDFILL. 
          SO THAT'S A LONG WAYS TO GO FROM SPRINGTOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO, UH, USUALLY THE, IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, THEY, UH, HELP YOU WITH FINDING A CONTRACTOR THAT'S VETTED AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND THEN, UH, THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE LANDFILL AND AVOIDS, UM, TAKING IT TO A PRECINCT BARN TO, TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. 
          UM, NOT SAYING THEY WON'T DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I CAN DEFINITELY BRING, ASK THAT QUESTION FOR THE STATE ON HOW, HOW THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PAST. 
          I THINK IT WOULD HELP, I KNOW IT WOULD HELP ME IN, IN SOME OF THIS DECISION MAKING. 
          I THINK IT HELPED THE COURT TO HAVE SOME OF THAT INSIGHT. 
          SO, SO THE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, OUR DEBRIS, UH, PERSON FROM THE STATE'S GONNA BE HERE TOMORROW. 
          AND, UH, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT STAGING SITES, WHAT DOES HIS OPERATION, UH, PRECINCT ONES HANDLING OPERATION OF PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT TWO'S HANDLING OPERATIONS OF PRECINCT TWO. 
          BUT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER MOVING PARTS OUTSIDE Y'ALL'S OPERATION. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, THE CONTRACTOR ISSUE. 
          UM, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT ALL ON US TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE EITHER CONTRACTORS OR INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR DISPOSAL? SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS OTHER STUFF TOO. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, UH, DAMAGED PROPANE BOTTLES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DISPOSE OF KIND OF SEPARATELY. 
          THERE'S A BUNCH OF THOSE KIND OF ISSUES WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH, WITH, UH, SOLID WASTE ISSUES. 
          UH, GOTTA MAKE SURE STUFF DOESN'T GET INTERMINGLED LIKE TIRES. 
          UM, 
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YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF ISSUES AND WE'LL HAVE THE STATE PERSON TO KIND OF HELP US MAP OUT WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE, UM, WITH INPUT FROM THE COM FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE, HAVE OPERATIONS ONGOING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOT ALL OF OUR I'S AND CROSS ALL OUR T'S SO THAT WE'RE STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REGULATORY STUFF THAT, UH, IS INVOLVED WITH SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO THAT. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF REGULATIONS ON THAT THAT WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING SO THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. 
          ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD JUST WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE COUNTY CLEANUP DAY MM-HMM . 
          WAS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REGULATE OR SUPERVISE ENOUGH TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PUTTING TIRES IN THE DUMPSTER TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PUTTING, UH, WET PAINT IN THE DUMPSTERS, USE MOTOR OIL, ALL OF THAT STUFF, ALL MOTOR OIL. 
          WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT EVERY, EVERY ROLL OFF, UH, WHEN WE GO TO COMPACT, IT WOULD HAVE WET PAINT IN IT AND YOU JUST COULDN'T MONITOR ALL OF IT BECAUSE OF THE, THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAD THERE. 
          BUT ABSOLUTELY, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF THERE WERE SOME KIND OF A DOCUMENT THAT EVERY, EVERYBODY THAT BROUGHT A LOAD OF CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS IN HAD TO SIGN THAT CERTIFIED UNDER PENALTY OF LAW, THAT IT DID COME FROM THERE AND THAT THEY WERE NOT A CONTRACTOR THAT WAS IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING THAT. 
          AND, AND THERE WAS NOT INSURANCE AND THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF THAT DOCUMENT WAS IN PLACE AND THAT, UH, THAT WOULD GIVE US AN ANOTHER DEGREE OF PROTECTION FROM HAVING PEOPLE ABUSE THE, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS LOAD OF TIRES THAT BLEW FROM SPRINGTOWN OVER TO, TO SOMEBODY'S PLACE, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF HERE AND, AND I HAD TO BRING 'EM IN. 
          SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO PREVENT. 
          AND UH, YES, SIR. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN FIND OUT TOMORROW, MAYBE. 
          BUT GOOD QUESTION TO ASK BECAUSE IT, IT, YES SIR. 
          IT NEEDS, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THE, THE HOW HARD IT IS TO GET THAT FUND BALANCE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND SPEND IT ALL, AND, AND IN JUST ONE DEAL RIGHT HERE, WE NEED SOME ASSURANCE THAT IT'S BEING SPENT THE WAY THAT IT'S INTENDED TO BE SPENT, NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, OKAY, I'M GONNA TEAR MY WHOLE HOUSE DOWN, THIS CONTRACTOR'S GONNA DO THIS, AND HE'S GONNA HAUL IT TO YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN AFFORD THAT, TO BE HONEST. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT, UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHO, WHO'S GETTING PAID, AS WE SAID, UH, GETTING PAID BY THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, THAT THAT CAN SAVE THE MONEY BY BRINGING IT TO THE PRECINCT AND AND DUMPING THAT CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS OTHER THAN DISPOSING OF IT AS IT SHOULD BE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND, AND, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS OPERATION ONGOING, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE, THE, THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, FOLKS WILL BE THERE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. 
          SO WE WANT, DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT SAME SCENARIO WHERE SOMEBODY SLIPPED IN SOME OLD PAINT CANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO GET US IN TROUBLE, UM, WITH THAT, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA MONITOR THAT STUFF AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH THE STATE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTAL FOLKS. 
          UM, SO, SO WE WILL, AS PART OF THAT PLAN, TO MASTER PLAN FOR ALL OF THIS DEBRIS MANAGEMENT STUFF, WE'LL INCLUDE ALL OF THAT IN THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SQUARED AWAY. 
          AND THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, IT COULD INVOLVE, UH, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THERE THAT THEY SIGN OFF ON BECAUSE THEN WE CAN, IF SOMEBODY DID THAT, THAT'S ON THEM. 
          'CAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO PUT IT IN THERE. 
          SO, UM, THEY'LL GIVE US SOME PROTECTION FROM, UH, ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL TCQ VIOLATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE DON'T WANNA DO IT. 
          WE DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY OF THOSE ISSUES. 
          UM, UM, WE'VE GOT A BIG ENOUGH PROBLEM THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. 
          WE DON'T NEED SOME REGULATORY CHALLENGES WHEN FIGHTS OVER TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ON THIS ITEM, DO WE HAVE, UH, ACTION AND TAKE ON THIS AND WHAT WILL THAT, UH, WHAT WILL THAT BE? WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS COURT THAT THE, SO WE'RE DISCUSSING, WE'RE DISCUSSING, UH, ITEM ITEM B ONE ONE B. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY VOTED ON TRANSFERRING THE 4 MILLION. 
          NO, WE HAVE NOT. 
          4 MILLION IS THE, UH, RECOMMENDED AMOUNT. 
          CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING ONLINE. 
          THE VOTE NOW IS GONNA BE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE MOVE $4 MILLION FROM THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY ALLOCATED TO ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WE UTILIZE THAT 4 MILLION TO STEP INTO THE GAP FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO TRANSFER OR DISPOSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS FOR THEMSELVES. 
          SO 
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I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE TRANSFER 4 MILLION TO HELP THESE FOLKS OUT. 
          MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? I DO. 
          I HAVE ONE VERY QUICK COMMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER CONLEY, I WANNA COMMEND YOU, THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO THIS, I THINK HAS BEEN IMPRESSIVE. 
          YOU'VE SHOWN A SERVANT'S HEART, YOU'VE SHOWN AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF CARE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S JUST BEEN VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYE. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT JUDGE AS WELL. 
          I AGREE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT DECISION. 
          I COMMEND YOU ON THE COURT ON TAKING THAT ACTION ON THIS ITEM. 
          MOVE 
          [C. Approve the engagement of Tetra Tech through RFP PC25-45 Debris Removal Monitoring. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen)]
TO ITEM C ON APPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT OF TETRA TECH THROUGH RFP PC 25 DASH 45 DEBRIS REMOVAL MONITORING, KIM. 
          SO WE ENGAGED WITH TETRATECH, WHO HAS BEEN AWARDED OUR, UM, DEBRIS REMOVAL MONITORING CONTRACT LAST WEEK. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THE PURPOSE FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT WAS FOR THEM TO HELP DECIDE HOW MUCH YOU GO THAT WAY. 
          DEBRIS WAS BEING BROUGHT IN BY, BY THE INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CUBIC YARDS OR SO FORTH AND WITH, WITH YOUR BOAT TODAY, THAT KIND OF ELIMINATED THAT PURPOSE FOR THEIR SERVICES. 
          BUT I STILL DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, HELPFUL FOR CONTINUE UNTIL THE MONITOR WHAT DEBRIS IS, BUT LIKE THE, THE CONTRACTORS LIKE YOU TALKING ABOUT, OR THE ITEMS THAT HAZMAT THAT WE AREN'T USING, UM, OR AREN'T ACCEPTING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          UM, SO I I I, I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, THE DEBRIS MONITORS ARE FOLKS THAT ARE TRAINED ON HOW TO THEY CALCULATE VOLUME, BUT THAT WE'VE SOLVED THAT ISSUE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THEY CAN ALSO HELP US WITH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING, UH, PAINT CANS AND TIRES AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, PROHIBITED STUFF THAT GOES IN THE LANDFILL. 
          UM, THOSE ARE MONITORS THAT ARE HELPING WITH KEEPING US, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THOSE TCQ REGULATIONS FOR WASTE DISPOSAL. 
          SO WE HAVE THOSE FOLKS IN PLACE, UM, THAT WE CAN TAP INTO IF WE NEED TO. 
          AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE DEBRIS MONITORS IS TO HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE PRECINCT ROAD AND BRIDGE GUYS ARE BUSY. 
          UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE OFF THE PLATE THERE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO SIT THERE AND GO CHECK EVERYTHING IN THE BACK OF EVERY TRUCK. 
          WE GOT FOLKS THAT WILL DO THAT. 
          I DON'T MIND THEM DOING THAT. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT 'EM, WE, WE, WE, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE NIPPED THAT IN THE BUD COMMISSIONER. 
          SO, SO THIS IS JUST TO HELP, ALL RIGHT. 
          ENSURE COMPLIANCE AND TRACKING HOW MUCH OF THE VOLUME IS COMING IN, NOT THAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR IT, BUT JUST TRACK THE VOLUME SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M OFF GETTING, UH, THAT, SO FOR OVERCHARGED, SO FOR CLARIFICATION THOUGH, UM, THERE WAS A BIG UPROAR BECAUSE THEY WERE CHARGING $60 PER CUBIC YARD. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WHAT DOES IT COST TO DUMP THAT? WHAT, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COST? OUR COST IS 60 $60. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT IS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, IT'S A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE COST. 
          I I READ ALL THESE COMMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, POINTED AT, AT THE COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT THE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL COST. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S THE ACTUAL PASS THROUGH COST. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US, PARKER COUNTY TO GET RID OF THIS DEBRIS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO TAKE IT TO A DUMP SITE. 
          IT PROBABLY WILL NOT BE REIMBURSED THAT WE MOST LIKELY WILL NOT BE REIMBURSED FOR. 
          YES. 
          CAN CAN I EXPAND ON THIS A LITTLE BIT? YES. 
          I DON'T, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND A CUBIC YARD, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND COMPACTION, HOW IS COMPACTION ADDRESSED ON THE VOLUME A CUBIC YARD VOLUME? ARE THESE GUYS HELPING US TO YES. 
          COMPACT THIS DEBRIS, THE, UH, TO HAVE FEWER CUBIC YARDS? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT HELPING WITH THE COMPACTION PIECE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEY'RE COUNTING THE VOLUME THAT'S COMING IN MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEY FACTOR THE VOLUME IN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S INSULATION, THAT'S THAT COMP THAT WILL COMPACT AT THE LANDFILL IF IT'S UH, UH, BRICK MASONRY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT DOESN'T COMPACT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE HELPING US CALCULATE THAT SO 
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WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL, WE'RE NOT THE INVOICES MATCH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S HOW THE, THAT'S HOW THE LANDFILLS, YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          PARDON MY IGNORANCE. 
          BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING. 
          AND THERE, AND THERE IS PART OF THAT IS, UM, UH, THERE IS, UH, WE'RE CALCULATING THAT BASED ON VOLUME, LANDFILL'S BASED ON WEIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S SORT OF A, UH, FORMULAS THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE GOTTA DETERMINE WHO HAS INSURANCE AND WHO DON'T. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMEHOW. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHERE, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE FOLKS ARE COMING TOMORROW CAN BE A BENEFIT TO US, I THINK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY AGAIN TALKED ABOUT EITHER SOME TECHNOLOGY OR, OR SOME STATEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE SIGNED. 
          UH, YES SIR. 
          UNDER, UNDER OATH IF NECESSARY. 
          HOWEVER, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FOLKS THAT ARE NOT ABUSING THE SYSTEM, AGAIN, I, I SUPPORT THAT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN, WE HAVE OR WE CAN GET PUT TOGETHER? AND I THINK THAT IF WE ASK THIS GROUP TO DO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TASK FOR THEM TO ENSURE THAT, RIGHT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          'CAUSE ANYBODY THAT HAS INSURANCE THAT'S TAKING SPACE FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO DUMP THE STUFF OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A BIG CONCERN THAT I HAVE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU JASON. 
          THANK YOU KIM. 
          WE'RE ON ITEM C, SO I JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE WE ENGAGE, UM, TETRA TAX SERVICES TO HELP WITH THIS STUFF. 
          SO HOW DO THEY CHARGE AND, AND DO WE NEED A MAXIMUM AMOUNT ON THAT OR IS THERE JUST A FEE FOR BEING THERE PER DAY? WELL, THEY, THEY CHARGE BY EACH PERSON THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, WELL, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO AN, AN UNREIMBURSABLE COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HIRING SOME GUYS STAND OUT THERE THAT THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING THESE FOLKS AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          SO THE, THE ENGAGEMENT AND NOTICE TO PROCEED THAT WE'RE, WE RECEIVED FOR THEM FOR ONE WEEK OF SERVICE WAS 11,600. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YES, THAT'S A SIZABLE EXPENSE. 
          WHAT I'M HOPING THAT AS WE GET THIS OPERATION, UM, STREAMLINED BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STREAMLINE THIS TO GET THIS VOLUME GONE AND REMOVED, UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, WE CAN, UH, WEAN OURSELVES OFF OF THAT SO THAT WE, WE CAN REPLACE THAT WITH SOME COUNTY STAFF AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          CORRECT. 
          TO, TO, TO MINIMIZE THAT PARTICULAR EXPENSE AS WE MOVE ALONG. 
          YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE WE'VE DONE THIS FOR A MONTH, UM, WE PRETTY MUCH ARE GONNA KNOW HOW ALL THIS WORKS AND WE MAY NOT NEED THAT ASSISTANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, UH, IN THE FUTURE IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO. 
          TWO THANK YOU JACKSON, BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME ROAD TO THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF DOING THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE STUFF ALL RIPPED UP THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED IN A WEEK. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO IF WE CAN, THIS, THIS GIVE US THIS SOME BUFFER THERE, UM, BECAUSE UH, ALL THE COUNTY BUSINESS THAT'S NOT GETTING DONE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT. 
          SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR RESIDENTS NEED ROAD REDONE AND, UH, ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT THE PRECINCTS DO, ALL THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE FOR A WEEK 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN IN, IN DISASTER RESPONSE MODE. 
          SO THIS IS JUST A, A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO HELP US. 
          HOPEFULLY WE CAN WEAN OURSELVES OFF OF THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY AND GET TO A FINE TUNED MACHINE HERE THAT WE'RE CRANKING OUT HAULING DEBRIS OFF AND GETTING RED VEGETATION REMOVED AND BURNT AND OUT OF EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          TO THAT, WAS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT? DO WE HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? WISH I CARRIED FIVE VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOVE TO ITEM D ON 
          [D. Approve the purchase of an air curtain burner for storm vegetation debris. (Kim Rivas/ Judge Deen)]
THE PURCHASE OF AN AIR CURTAIN BURNER STORM AND VEGETATION DEBRIS. 
          KIM. 
          SO, UH, BY REQUEST OF BOTH COMMISSIONER UM, CONLEY IN COMMISSIONER HOLT, UM, I WAS ASKED TO UM, FIND SOME AIR CURTAIN BURNERS FOR THEM TO PURCHASE, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE STATE HAS HAS LEFT AND FOR THEM TO HAVE ON PROPERTY FOR, FOR USE FOR THESE SITUATIONS LATER ON. 
          AND SO I FOUND A GSA CONTRACT, WHICH WE ARE NORMALLY NOT ALLOWED TO PURCHASE, UH, EQUIPMENT LIKE THIS ON GSA, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, UM, THOSE RULES ARE, ARE, ARE, UM, SUSPENDED. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO AIR BURNERS OUT OF FLORIDA, THEY UM, WITH THE, UM, SUBMISSION OF THE PO CAN HAVE US, 
          [00:55:01]
THE AIR CURTAIN BURNERS TO US DELIVERED WITHIN TWO TO THREE WEEKS AND THEY ARE $204,867. 
          AND THAT IS, UM, COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE HOLT, UM, EXPLAINED THAT THESE WOULD, UM, BURN 10 TO 15 TIMES AN HOUR. 
          UM, THIS VERSION BURNS SEVEN TO NINE. 
          SEVEN TO NINE, OKAY. 
          YEAH, THEY HAVE SOME REALLY HEAVY DUTY ONES THAT CAN DO 10 TO 15. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I KNEW I'D HEARD SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, KIM, JUST ONE QUICK NOTE. 
          WE AT PRECINCT TWO, WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN 10,000 OF THAT AS AN ASH RAKE, WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED THE ASH RAKE PORTION OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, AND ALSO BECAUSE YOUR, SO WE CAN USE THE GENERAL FUNDS THAT YOU ALL MOVED, UM, OUT OF FUND BALANCE FOR PRECINCT ONES BECAUSE THE NORTH CONVENIENCE CENTER IS UNDER FUND 10, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YOU HAVE UM, I BELIEVE 289,000 OR 2 39, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN YOUR CONTINGENCY LINE TO COVER, UM, THE PURCHASE FOR YOURS AT PRECINCT TWO IF YOU SO WISH OTHERWISE WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE SOME FUND BALANCE FROM YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME OTHER FUNDS THAT, UH, LIKE 4 0 8 OR THAT YOU'RE GOOD WITH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHICH FUND RIGHT AFTER COURT, WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHICH FUND TO PULL IT FROM. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          BUT IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET AND NOT, NOT NECESSARY TO PULL FROM CORRECT. 
          TO ALLOCATED BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, I WAS GONNA ASK, IS THIS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED LONG TERM OR AFTER, AFTER THIS IS OVER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR IT TO BE PURCHASED FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER USED AND UNTIL YOU'RE DONE WITH IT AND THEN MOVED TO THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER TO USE LONG TERM IS WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE IT DURING THE, THE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU NEEDED HERE THEN RETURNED TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER LATER ON AND, AND THE IT COULD BE PURCHASED TO, TO BE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED THERE AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE, YES. 
          WE'VE HAD TO STOP ACCEPTING BRUSH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A WAY OF DISPOSING OF IT. 
          SO WHAT I WAS, I I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO, UH, GET THROUGH THIS DISASTER SITUATION AND THEN THEN MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH. 
          CONVENIENCE. 
          YEAH, I, I'LL TELL YOU, I LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THIS WHERE I THINK I WILL END UP USING IT LONG TERM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT MY, MY QUESTION TO YOU, KIM, IS COULD WE BUY IT OUT OF THE PRECINCT COUPONS RIGHT NOW AND THEN IN THE EVENT THAT IN 90 DAYS, 60 DAYS, WHATEVER WE TRANSFER TO CONVENIENCE CENTER SOUTH, THAT COULD BE REVERSED. 
          SO BECAUSE IT'S GOING FROM THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TO A GENERAL FUND, THEN THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO PURCHASE IT FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, THE 4 MILLION THAT WAS MOVED FROM FUND BALANCE INCLUDED TWO. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE ONE FOR THE PRECINCTS OR FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER AND THEN IF HE HAD THE FUNDS THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST. 
          IF, IF YOU WEREN'T GOING, IF YOU RETURNED TO THE, THE, THE CONVENIENCE CENTER COLLEGE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE ONE IN EACH ONE, THEN IT'LL BE PURCHASED THERE. 
          YOU USE IT AS LONG AS YOU NEED TO AND THEN THEN MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH MAIN. 
          LET'S DO THAT FOR NOW BECAUSE WE, WHAT I SUSPECT WILL HAPPEN IS WE WILL FIND THAT IT IS, UH, CONVENIENT FOR US ENOUGH THAT WE WILL WANT OUR OWN MM-HMM . 
          TO KEEP OUR STOCK. 
          'CAUSE I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE THE SAME, BUT WE GET THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF BRUSH AND TREES JUST IN A NORMAL YEAR THAT PILE UP ON OUR BARN AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A BURN RATE. 
          SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IN YOUR UPCOMING BUDGET YES. 
          FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER IN, IN THAT WAY. 
          UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE IT IS WORKED PRETTY GOOD IN OUR SOUTH SECTION HERE TO HAVE BRUSH ACCEPTED THERE AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BURN AT OUR, AT OUR YARD AT ALL, UH, ONCE EVERY 90 DAYS WITH FOUR DAY WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM TCEQ. 
          SO THAT PRETTY WELL ELIMINATES THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          SO THEN, THEN IT COULD BE PURCHASED FROM GENERAL FUND FOR YOUR USE AND THEN WHEN, WHEN THAT TIMEFRAME'S OVER WITH AND TRANSFER IT OVER TO SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER. 
          PERFECT. 
          THAT SEEMS ACCEPTABLE TO GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE, ONE QUICK NOTE ON THESE, THESE THINGS WEIGH 40,350 POUNDS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUOTE, IT SAYS THAT UNLOADING IS DONE AT OUR COST. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, I KNOW FOR A FACT WE DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AT PRECINCT TWO TO UNLOAD THIS UNLESS IT COMES ON A SPECIALIZED WINCH TRAILER. 
          UM, THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAS A CRANE. 
          I MEAN, 40,000 POUNDS IS SO WE COULD, UM, REACH OUT. 
          SURELY IT'LL ROLL OFF WHATEVER THEY BRING IT ON. 
          THEY SAY ON THE QUOTE, 
          [01:00:02]
THEY SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT, UH, KIM, DO YOU HAVE THE QUOTE YOU GOTTA HAVE? I DO. 
          UM, IN THE DETAILS BELOW, LOADING COST, IF ANY, A DESTINATION IS NOT INCLUDED ON NOTE TWO, IT SAYS IT'LL BE SHIPPED AS A STANDARD LOAD ON A COMMON CARRIER TRUCK UNLOADING COST, IF ANY AT THE DESTINATION IS NOT INCLUDED AND IS TO THE ACCOUNT OF THE BUYER. 
          SO I DON'T, I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULDN'T SHIP IT ON A NORMAL FLATBED, BUT IF THEY DID, GETTING IT OFF AT 40,000 POUNDS IS GONNA BE INTERESTING. 
          I THINK WE CAN LIFT UP THE BACK AND PUT SOME ROLLERS UNDERNEATH IT AND PULL IT OFF AND THEN Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THOSE ISSUES WHEN YOU MOVE IT FROM PRECINCT TWO TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME NEEDS TO TRANSPORT HEAVY EQUIPMENT ANYWAY. 
          SO WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING WAS WHEN OUR BUDGET CAME UP PUTTING IN THE BUDGET FOR A SPECIALIZED TRAILER THAT WOULD HAVE A HEAVY DUTY TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'M SURE THE 4 MILLION, UM, THAT'S IN THAT, THAT WE COULD, IF NECESSARY TO RENT A CRANE OR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, I BET WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT ITEM? MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF BOTH AIR CURTAIN BURNERS ONE TO THE ACCOUNT OF THE NORTH CONVENIENCE CENTER, ONE TO THE ACCOUNT OF THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER. 
          THE ONE FOR THE SOUTH CONVENIENCE CENTER WILL BE LOCATED AT PRECINCT TWO FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          I MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONY. 
          IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE? UH, ALL FAVOR CARRIES. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          FIVE VOTE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER WALDEN. 
          YEAH, THANK MOVE TO ITEM ME 
          [E. Discuss and take appropriate action regarding authorization of Special Overtime (OT) compensation rates for Deputy Constables assigned to provide security services during a declared disaster period, and to approve a limited exemption from standard overtime provisions under Fair Labor Standards Act Section 207(k). (Becky McCullough/ Judge Deen)]
ON DISCUSS TAKE ACTION. 
          UH, CASE TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING AUTHORIZATION OF SPECIAL OVERTIME COMPENSATION RATES FOR DEPUTY CONSTABLES ASSIGNED TO PROVIDE SECURITY SERVICES DURING A DECLARED DISASTER PERIOD. 
          AND TO APPROVE A LIMITED EXEMPTION FROM STANDARD OVERTIME PROVISIONS UNDER FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT SECTION 2 0 7 K. 
          BECKY. 
          YES. 
          SO IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE ARE DEPUTY CONSTABLES WORKING OVERTIME, UM, PREVENTING OR PERFORMING SECURITY DUTIES AT A SHELTER. 
          SO THEY WERE TOLD THEY WOULD BE PAYING OVERTIME RATE FOR THAT. 
          UH, THE CONSTABLES DO NOT HAVE OVERTIME BUDGETS TO PAY THAT, SO THAT BECOMES BUDGETARY. 
          SO IT'S COURT ACTION TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT TO Y'ALL TODAY. 
          UH, IT'S ABOUT $7,000 BETWEEN THE OFFICES OF CONSTABLE ONE AND TWO. 
          I HAVE A, I HAVE A BREAKDOWN. 
          I JUST GOT FINAL NUMBERS BEFORE I RAN OVER HERE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SHELTER'S STILL OPEN, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WILL BE ONGOING. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, STARTING, UH, SUNDAY, LAST SUNDAY, A WEEK AGO SUNDAY, UM, THE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS IN THE SPRINGTOWN AREA THAT, UH, DID NOT HAVE A PLACE TO GO. 
          SO WE PARTNERED WITH, UH, THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IN SPRINGTOWN AND THE RED CROSS TO OPEN A SHELTER FOR THOSE FOLKS TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS THERE. 
          UH, WE REALLY NEEDED SOME SECURITY IN A HURRY. 
          SO, UM, AS PART OF THAT DISASTER DECLARATION PROCESS A WEEK AGO, UM, I TALKED TO THE JUDGE AND SAID, I, I'M GONNA NEED A LITTLE HELP WITH, UH, SOME OVERTIME FOR SOME SECURITY, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THE CONSTABLES. 
          AND ONCE WE GOT DOWN TO A LOW ENOUGH NUMBER, UH, THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, WE NIPPED THAT IN THE BUD AND, AND SHUT THAT OFF JUST TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS SOME OVERTIME MONEY THERE FOR THE CONSTABLES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE DOING, UH, SECURITY THERE AT THE SHELTER IN SPRINGTOWN. 
          UM, IS THE ONE IN WEATHERFORD STILL OPEN THE ONE, DIDN'T YOU HAVE ALSO ONE AT THE METHODIST METHODIST CHURCH IN WEATHERFORD? NO, THAT'S THE DISASTER ASSISTANCE CENTER. 
          WHICH AGENCIES? OH. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, IN ADDITION TO, TO TO THIS SHELTER, UH, IN SPRINGTOWN, UM, MINE WELLS OPENED ONE, UM, AS WELL. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S OVER IN PALO PINTO COUNTY MINE WELLS IS RUNNING THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING SECURITY IN ANOTHER COUNTY. 
          THIS IS JUST FOR, UH, THE SHELTER IN SPRINGTOWN AND IT WAS KIND OF A CRUNCH THING, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS DISASTER TO GET SOME EXTRA SECURITY. 
          SO I TALKED TO THE JUDGE. 
          YEAH, I MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE COVERING THAT. 
          UM, HOW MANY DAYS WAS IT OPEN? 5, 6, 7. 
          SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          I THINK IT CLOSED, I THINK WE SHUT IT OFF ON FRIDAY. 
          FRIDAY AND THEY CLOSED ON SATURDAY AND I THINK THEY OPENED SUNDAY. 
          SO IT IS JUST UNDER A WEEK, FIVE DAYS ISH. 
          UM, AND UH, UH, I ALSO, UH, THAT SAME CONVERSATION, I DID TALK TO THE JUDGE 'CAUSE 
          [01:05:01]
I'VE GOT, UH, UH, GUY THAT WORKS FOR ME WORKED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME THIS WEEK. 
          UM, SO, UH, I DID TWO, BUT I'M EXEMPT, SO SO Y'ALL GET FREE PASS ON THAT ONE. 
          UM, DO, DO WE NEED TO HANDLE MY GUYS IN A SEPARATE YEAH. 
          AND IT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR JOHN BECAUSE THIS AGENDA ITEM IS SPECIFIC TO THE CONSTABLES AND THAT'S FINE. 
          I'D LIKE TO COVER IT TODAY IF WE CAN, BUT IF WE CAN'T I UNDERSTAND. 
          THEN NEXT MONDAY, JOHN, CAN WE ADD IN WE HAD, UH, PRECINCT TWO WORKERS THAT WORKED WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OVERTIME AND I WOULD PREFER AS WELL AS PRECINCT ONE. 
          YES. 
          AND PRECINCT ONE. 
          I WOULD PREFER THAT WE, UM, AND, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT DISCUSS AS A POLICY GOING FORWARD, THAT WHEN IT IS A DISASTER RESPONSE, IT COULD BE AN INCENTIVE TO COUNTY WORKERS THAT IF YOU GET OUT THERE IN A DISASTER RESPONSE EFFORT WHEN IT'S A LOCALLY DECLARED DISASTER. 
          SO JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL KEEP THAT TIGHT, UH, THAT'S PAID OUT AS OVERTIME INSTEAD OF ALLOCATED TO COMP. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT ON, ON MONDAY THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          NEXT COURT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          RICH, DO YOU HAVE THAT, WILL YOU ADD BOTH THINGS PRECINCT TO AND PRECINCT ONE FOR OVERTIME AND THEN ALSO DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION OR CONSIDER A NEW POLICY AUTHORIZING THAT GOING FORWARD FOR WHEN THERE IS A LOCAL OR DECLARED DISASTER? YOU MIGHT ADD, YOU MIGHT ADD COUNTY EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, I KNOW WE HAD CREWS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSISTING. 
          I THINK WE HAVE SOME CREWS HELPING YOU GUYS INTO TODAY AS WELL THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TOWARDS DISASTER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          STUFF. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDED SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. 
          WE JUST KEEP IT AT ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEE JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMEBODY WE THINK OF. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          I WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THE CONSTABLE DEAL HERE. 
          IT'S A TECHNICALITY ON HOW THE OVERTIME, BECAUSE THEY WERE PROVIDING SECURITY AT A CHARITY OR NOT A CHARITY, BUT A, THAT'S ALL WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME AT THE TIME WAS TO DISCUSS SECURITY FOR DEPUTY CONSTABLES UHHUH . 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S WHY THEY WERE WORKING IT IS THEY WERE TOLD THEY WOULD BE PAID OVERTIME. 
          AND WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME, I WAS LIKE, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE BUDGETS FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT IS COMMISSIONER'S COURT'S AUTHORITY SINCE IT'S BUDGETARY. 
          ALSO, THE QUESTION OF DEPUTY CONSTABLES ARE ALSO, THEY'RE ON A 2 0 7 K EXEMPTION, JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          TECHNICALLY THEY DON'T EARN COMP TIME TILL THEY'VE WORKED OVER 86 HOURS. 
          SO IS COURT GONNA TAKE THIS AS AN EXCEPTION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PAID COMP TIME OVER 80 HOURS? AND AGAIN, WHEN I SAY WORKING 80 HOURS, THAT MEANS THEY DIDN'T TAKE VACATION, THEY DIDN'T TAKE SICK TIME AND REVIEWING IN SOME OF THESE TIME SHEETS THEY DID, BUT THEY DID TAKE EXTRA SHIFTS. 
          SO NOW IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE SPECIAL DUTY OVERTIME. 
          Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS WITH DISPATCH. 
          THEY ARE PAID OVERTIME REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S TIME WORKED OR WHERE THEY GOT 40 HOURS. 
          ANYTHING OVER 40, THEY'RE PAID FOR IT. 
          SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S AN FLSA 2 0 7 K EXEMPTION TO PAY THEM THE OVERTIME FOR OVER 40. 
          AND BECKY, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COURT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE, WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT BEFORE AS FAR AS THE SICK OR VACATION BECAUSE IF THEY WORK HOURS AND THEN AT THE TAIL END DECIDE, HEY, I CAN GET OVERTIME OR TIME AND A HALF RIGHT. 
          TAKE A SICK DAY AND, AND GET THE ADDITIONAL HOURS. 
          YEAH. 
          SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S LIKE, WELL MY TIME SHEET'S OVER 40 HOURS. 
          NO, YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY WORK 40 HOURS. 
          SO IF THAT'S, YOU WORKED TWO DAYS AND YOU TOOK THREE DAYS VACATION, YOU ONLY WORKED 16 HOURS. 
          SO ANY, YOU KNOW, SO YOU, YOU DIDN'T TECHNICALLY MEET THE RULES. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY I'M ASKING FOR IS CLARIFICATION AND THIS DISASTER CASE, IS IT OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND PAY OUT THEIR OVERTIME INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT ACCRUED AT COMP TIME? HOW MANY HOURS DID THEY TURN IN? UM, IT'S ABOUT, UH, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY CONSTABLES WERE THERE? UM, CONSTABLE ONE, THEY HAD FOUR, THREE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES THAT TURNED IN TIME FOR A TOTAL OF 54 HOURS BETWEEN THE THREE. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS THREE HOURS FROM CONST OR THREE DIFFERENT DEPUTIES FROM CONSTABLE TWOS PRECINCT TWO'S OFFICE, UH, FOR ABOUT 40 HOURS. 
          SO JUST THOSE TWO. 
          JUST THAT IT'S ABOUT $7,000. 
          IF I CAL IN THE OVERTIME FROM THE PRECINCTS, THAT'S ANOTHER 12,000. 
          BUT WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ON A SEPARATE ISSUE. 
          AND YOU DID SAY THAT YOU HAD SOME THAT WERE HAD VACATION OR SICK DAYS IN THERE? YES. 
          SO IN A NORMAL INSTANCE, I MEAN, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T GET ANY ADDITIONAL TIME LIKE OUR GUYS IN A STORM. 
          [01:10:03]
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE, YOUR ACTIONS TO, TO MAKE IT, TO, TO HANDLE A SITUATION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU, YOU HAD TO DO THAT. 
          WE APPRECIATE, I I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE DISCUSSING YEAH. 
          THE, THE END RESULT OF IT, BUT THE DECISION WAS A CORRECT DECISION THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE. 
          YEP. 
          I'M, I'M, UH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THESE GUYS TO HELP OUT SURE. 
          AND SHORT NOTICE AND THEY ALL STEPPED UP. 
          SURE. 
          I IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD HELP THEM. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THEY, THEY WERE STILL DOING THEIR REGULAR DAY JOB IN ADDITION TO COVERING THIS. 
          SURE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JASON. 
          KEVIN, A MOTION AND, AND A SECOND. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON SIDE OF IT WHERE COME YOU WANNA THAT OUT, BUT WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM TO PAY THIS? IT WOULD COME FROM THEIR SALARY LINES, BUT I MEAN, WE'LL WE ARE HAVING THEM DO A SPECIAL CODE SO WE CAN TRACK IT. 
          SO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, IT COULD COME FROM THIS, THIS 4 MILLION IF NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS. 
          THANK YOU, BECKY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK 
          [F. Authorize execution of MOU with United Way. (Judge Deen)]
MOVE TO ITEM METH AND AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF MOU WITH UNITED WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, PARKER COUNTY'S, UH, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE REALLY NOT IDEALLY SITUATED TO TAKE DONATIONS. 
          IT'S, UH, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK INVOLVED TAKING DONATIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO APPROVE ACCEPTING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A, UH, A BOTTLE OF WATER, TECHNICALLY Y'ALL HAVE TO OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC FROM A, UH, MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE FOR DONATIONS. 
          SO WHAT, UH, IS BEST PRACTICE IN DISASTERS LIKE THIS? UM, INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY DONATING STUFF OR MONEY TO PARKER COUNTY ITSELF? UM, UH, WHAT THIS MOU DOES IS IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND THE UNITED WAY OF PARKER COUNTY, AND THEY BECOME A FIDUCIARY TO MANAGE THOSE DONATIONS OF MONEY, GOODS AND SERVICES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MICROMANAGE THAT AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT LEVEL. 
          SO IT'S THE BEST PRACTICE HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, JANICE SNOW IN THE UNITED WAY AND HER NETWORK OF NONPROFIT GROUPS HERE IN THE COUNTY AND NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE, UH, TEXANS ON MISSION, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE FORMER TEXAS BAPTIST MEN ASSOCIATION, UH, GROUP, UH, UMCOR ON THE METHODIST SIDE AND ALL THOSE VARIOUS DENOMINATIONS TO HELP, UH, MANAGE THOSE DONATIONS. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE WAY THAT PROCESS WORKS IS THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT TAKES LOOKS AT THOSE DONATIONS. 
          WE MATCH IT UP WITH WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO, UM, SO THAT IT'S OPEN AND TRANSPARENT. 
          PEOPLE CAN TRACK WHERE THOSE DONATIONS ARE GOING, UM, WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR, UM, BY FOLKS THAT DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME INSTEAD OF MICRO, NOT MICROMANAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY NOT RIGHT TERM FOR, FOR COMMISSIONER SUPPORT, BUT Y'ALL HAVE THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS TO DO NOT MANAGE WHERE A PALLET OF WATER GOES AND WHO GETS IT. 
          SO I, I, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY GOT SOME CALLS ABOUT WHO CAN WE DONATE TO. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT. 
          UH, SO THIS WILL PROVIDE THAT ANSWER. 
          YES, THE ANSWER CAN BE UNITED WAY SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, FOR THIS, THIS DISASTER. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND UH, AND JUST FOR Y'ALL'S SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, UM, BECAUSE THE TORNADO, UH, IN MINE WELLS OCCURRED IN THE CITY LIMITS OF MINERAL WELLS, UM, THE CITY OF MINERAL WELLS IS MANAGING THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO THOSE IMPACT IMPACTED FOLKS IN PARKER COUNTY OVER ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, WELLS, UH, IS USING, UH, AN, AN OUTFIT ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO DO THAT SAME THING. 
          SO, SO IT'S BIFURCATED IN THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE A PARKER COUNTY PERSON, THERE'S NOT A ONE STOP SHOP. 
          IT DEPENDS ON WHICH TORNADO YOU GOT HIT BY. 
          SO IF YOU GOT HIT BY THE, THE EF THREE IN, IN MINERAL WELLS, YOU'RE GONNA GO THAT ROUTE TO DONATE STUFF. 
          AND IF YOU'RE GONNA GO DONATE TO THE FOLKS IN SPRINGTOWN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH UNITED WAY. 
          NOW THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE COORDINATING AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER, BUT THEY'RE KEEPING THAT SEPARATE. 
          UM, JUST FOR Y'ALL'S CLARIFICATION, SO YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT, UM, SINCE IT'S IN THE MINERAL WELLS THAT'S BEING MANAGED SEPARATELY, UNITED WAY IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE TORNADO, UH, UH, DAMAGES, UH, IN FROM SPRINGTOWN, UH, AREA BROADLY, IF WE'D ADVERTISE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR EACH OF THOSE TWO, IT'D BE GREAT. 
          YES. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME, UH, SOME, UH, STUFF THAT'S WE'VE PUSHED OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE'VE ASKED THAT TO SHARE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THAT 
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OUT AT LEAST ONCE A DAY, UM, SO THAT FOLKS CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND, UH, AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, FROM THE UNITED WAY IS, IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THAT STUFF COMING IN AND WE'VE GOT A DONATION SITE, UH, SET UP IN SPRINGTOWN, UM, AT UH, UH, UH, CITY FACILITY THERE. 
          WE'VE GOT STAFFING FROM THE STATE HELPING WITH THAT. 
          UNITED WAY IS GONNA HELP WITH STAFFING AND WE'RE GETTING TRUCKLOADS OF CLEANING SUPPLIES AND PALLETS OF WATER AND FOOD AND SNACKS THAT FOLKS CAN COME OUT. 
          UM, I'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS ACTUALLY, UH, ON THAT THROUGHPUT OF THAT. 
          UM, LET ME GET TO IT HERE. 
          WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE. 
          JUDGE, I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE. 
          YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          CURIOUS IF I VOTE, I HAVE A UPDATE ON A PRIOR ITEM. 
          UM, OUR OFFICE STAFF HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COMPANY OUT OF FLORIDA AND THEY SAID THAT, UH, THEY WILL BE DELIVERING IT ON A TRAILER AND WE WILL HAVE TO UNLOAD IT OURSELVES WITH A CRANE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY WILL GET IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. 
          WE HANDLE, SO, SO WE HAVE, AND MIKE, I MEAN, IT'S 40,000 POUNDS. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF WEIGHT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WE, YOU MAKE ANY MOTION TO COVER THAT COST UNDER THE 4 MILLION OR IS THAT BLANKET? IT SHOULD BE COVERED OUT OF THAT. 
          JASON, BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM G, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO UH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO, I, I FOUND MY NOTES HERE ON, UH, SO, UH, OUT OF THAT DONATION CENTER IN SPRINGTOWN, THEY'VE HELPED 133 HOUSEHOLDS AND 493 INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THAT, UH, DIS, UH, POD SITE WHERE THEY'RE HANDING OUT FOOD AND WATER AND CLEANING SUPPLIES, ET CETERA. 
          SO, SO THAT, THAT A LOT OF THROUGHPUT THROUGH THERE. 
          UM, A LOT OF ACTIVITY, UH, HELPING FOLKS OUT IN THE SPRINGTOWN AREA. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ON, ON WHEN WE WERE, SINCE WE WERE ON THE DONATION, UH, SIDE OF THINGS WITH THIS MOU. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ON, ON HOW MANY ARE BEING SERVED OUTTA THAT DONATION SIDE IN SPRINGTOWN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO 
          [G. Authorize execution of land agreement for storage of brush. (Judge Deen)]
ITEM G ON AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF LAND AGREEMENT FOR STORAGE OR BRUSH. 
          AND THAT IS A LAND USE AGREEMENT. 
          WE'VE, UH, DRAFTED THAT UP AND JUST NEED APPROVAL. 
          ANY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          IS THIS FOR THE LAND THAT'S OUT? YES. 
          ACROSS US AND . 
          SO THE TWO OF THEM? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE VOTE. 
          MOVE TO ITEM 11. 
          MOVE TO ADJOURN. 
          CAN WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT OR ALL SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR AND AYE. 
          RECORD SHOW THAT IT WILL ADJOURN AT 10 20.
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