[00:00:03] IN THE MEETING FOR THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT SPECIAL AGENDA RECORDS SHOW AT 1002 FOR MONDAY, [A. Review and discuss the work of the Budget Committee in the previous budget cycle. (Commissioner Holt)] JUNE 15TH, 2026 AT 10 A.M. AND TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS UNDER ITEM ONE PARKER COUNTY BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING. UNDER ITEM A, I'M JUST GOING TO START DOWN. AND THEN IF WE NEED TO READJUST OR HOW WE DO THIS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT WITHOUT ME. UNDER REVIEW, DISCUSS THE WORK OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THE PREVIOUS BUDGET CYCLE. COMMISSIONER HOLT, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ON THAT? YES. I'D LIKE THIS ITEM TO BE JUST AN OPEN REFLECTION BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING AND MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, LAST YEAR WE STARTED A DOGE STYLE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION BODY ONLY. IT DID NOT MAKE ANY FORMAL DECISIONS. THAT HAD NO SPECIFIC AUTHORITY. THIS COMMITTEE WAS COMPRISED OF MYSELF, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SHERIFF AUTHIER, DISTRICT ATTORNEY SWAYNE, MR. HEIZER, AND MISS BECKY MCCULLOUGH, OUR TREASURER AND HR DIRECTOR. THE PURPOSE OF THIS BODY WAS TO TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THE NEW PERSONNEL AND NEW CAPITAL EXPENSES THAT WERE REQUESTED. WE ALSO STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT REPORT TO COURT. WE KNEW IT WAS A FIRST TIME APPROACH. A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENED. I THINK WE LEARNED SOME LESSONS ALONG THE WAY AS WELL AND WHAT WE CAN FOCUS ON MORE. MAYBE WHAT WE CAN FOCUS ON LESS WANTED TO USE JUST AFTER THAT. QUICK RECAP. WANTED TO USE THIS ITEM TO DISCUSS WHAT WENT WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO SWITCH UP. WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA THAT CAN FOCUS ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I DO BELIEVE THAT AS AN END RESULT, WE, I THINK, FOLLOWED ABOUT 95% OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE SENT THEN BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR ACTUAL APPROVAL AND DECISION MAKING. SO OVERALL, THE COURT FOLLOWED THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS PRETTY DARN CLOSELY. Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT COMMITTEE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL DOING THAT AGAIN. IT'S NOT Y'ALL. YOU'RE PART OF IT TOO. THAT Y'ALL IS US. YES. YEAH. SO MY OBSERVATION AND RECOLLECTION IS THAT IN THE PAST, WE HAD USED A LOT OF THE COURT'S TIME IN TRYING TO SIFT THROUGH THE REQUESTS THAT HAD COME. AND I THINK THIS COMMITTEE LAST YEAR HELPED TO DO THAT FOR THE COURT SAVING TIME. AND MY OBSERVATION ALSO IS THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE PAST HAD BEEN OF A MINDSET THAT WE ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED. AND THEN THE COURT WILL CUT THAT DOWN. AND I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE MANAGED THAT AND IN FACT, PREVENTED SOME OF THAT FROM OCCURRING. AND THAT SOME OF THESE REQUESTS THAT WERE PROBABLY WAY, WAY, WAY ABOVE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED WENT AWAY. AND WE WERE ABLE THEN TO JUST FOCUS ON, ON THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENTS. AND WE'RE NOT HERE TO, TO, TO RUN ANYBODY'S DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS THAT COME BEFORE US. AND NOT AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO RUN THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENT, NOT TRYING TO TELL THEM, HERE'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO GET, BUT JUST KEEP, KEEP THINGS IN THE, IN THE MOST REASONABLE FORM POSSIBLE TO GET THE JOB DONE. AND I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT. MR. KAISER, DON'T YOU? ABSOLUTELY. AND ONE THING I WOULD SAY, I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY. OF COURSE, I'M NOT ON THE COURT. I'M JUST A CITIZEN HERE IN IN WEATHERFORD. AND TRANSPARENCY IS BIG TO ME. AND I THINK THIS REALLY OPENED A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO I'M GLAD TO BE HERE AND, AND BE A PART OF IT. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S VERY CLEAR FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING ONLINE. THIS IS NOT OUR NORMAL COMMISSIONER COURT SET UP. MIKE HALE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS MUCH BETTER LOOKING TODAY THAN HE NORMALLY IS. YEAH. SO THE REASON WHY THIS IS NOW A COMMITTEE, THE REASON WHY THE COMMITTEE IS NOW A SPECIFIC COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA ITEM IS TO ALLOW ANY AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO ATTEND WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY ISSUES WITH HAVING A QUORUM AND DISCUSSING COUNTY BUSINESS. [00:05:06] SO AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW IS COMPOSED OF, FOR THE MOST PART, MYSELF, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, FULL PARTICIPATION IS INVITED FROM JUDGE DEAN. COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND COMMISSIONER HALE, BUT ALSO OUR SHERIFF RUSS AUTHIER, DISTRICT ATTORNEY JEFF SWAIN, AGAIN, THE TREASURER, BECKY MCCULLOUGH, AND MR. RICHARD HEIZER, WHO'S REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC. THE PURPOSE OF THIS BODY IS TO REVIEW THOSE REQUESTS FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, TABULATE AND SCORE THEM, PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO OUR NORMAL COMMISSIONERS COURT IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WHICH ARE SEPARATE FROM THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, SO THAT THE COMMISSIONERS IN THOSE WORKSHOPS AND THE JUDGE AND THE WORKSHOP CAN MAKE DECISIONS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT OF A MANNER. SO WHILE WE DISCUSS THINGS HERE, WE WILL NOT BE TAKING ANY BINDING ACTION IN THIS BODY. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BODY ONLY. SO THAT'S WHY THIS LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOMEONE VERY SMART SITTING IN THIS CHAIR FOR ONCE. CHAIR I'M TEASING. SO ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM A? I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ALSO THE AGENDA MAKES IT A POINT TO REFLECT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ACTION. THERE IS A REVIEW AND DISCUSS, DISCUSS AND DECIDE. AND THAT IS BASICALLY FORMAT OF THIS BODY, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SIR. AND SO THIS IS NOT A ACTIONABLE THIS IS A UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF THE PARKER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COMMITTEE MEETING, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE OUTCOME THAT WE HAD LAST TIME, AND I PROPOSE THAT WE DO AGAIN IS TO SCORE THE REQUESTS THAT COME TO US AND ASSIGN A SCORE BASED ON YOU KNOW, OUR DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE NEED IS FOR THAT DEPARTMENT AND TO UTILIZE THAT SCORE. AS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MOVED FORWARD, MOVES FORWARD IN ADOPTING A BUDGET. OKAY. AND SO THAT SCORING PROCESS WORKED VERY WELL LAST TIME, I THINK. AND, AND TRYING TO LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OR THE, THE NEED OR THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE IT RANKS IN, IN THE NEED OF THE, OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. AND WE, I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT LAST TIME AS WELL. AND YOU DID. AND BUT AGAIN, THE OVERALL GLOBAL OBJECTIVE OF TODAY IS MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING THE EXPECTATIONS WITH THE ROLE IS HERE OF THIS BODY OF HOW WE KIND OF EVOLVED IT A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WANTING TO GET MORE INVOLVED, MORE INVOLVED. SORRY, I'M GETTING HOARSE. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO JUST TO COVER WHAT THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS MEETING ARE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD. ARE WE OKAY ON ITEM A COMMISSIONER. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY INPUT ON THE WORK OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IN THE PREVIOUS CYCLE? IF I CAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, OUR WORK PRODUCT IS FOR Y'ALL TO TAKE AND DECIDE ON AND ADOPTING A BUDGET. WAS THERE ANYTHING THE 1 TO 5 RATING IS WHAT WE DID FIVE BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE MOST NECESSARY ONE BEING THE LEAST? KIND OF A IF FUNDS HAPPEN TO BE AVAILABLE KIND OF LEVEL. WAS THAT A GOOD SCORING METRIC FOR Y'ALL? IS THAT DID THAT GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEEDED? AND WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT REALLY WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR Y'ALL? LIKE I KNOW ON, ON CAPITAL EXPENDITURES WE WERE KIND OF COMING DOWN TO A CRUNCH AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE KIND OF SET A THRESHOLD. IS THERE SOMETHING ON THAT THAT WE NEED TO GO LOWER OR LOWER. HIGHER. ANYTHING ON THAT? THAT FROM THE LAST GO ROUND THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE INTO THIS NEXT GO ROUND. SO I THINK THE SCORING WORKED VERY WELL. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THE FOLKS THAT WEREN'T THERE. I THINK THE SCORING WORKED VERY WELL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK WAS AN OUTCOME FOR THE COURT LAST TIME WAS SETTING A DEADLINE ON SOME THINGS, A DROP DEAD DEADLINE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR REQUEST IN BY THIS DATE, IT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED PERIOD. DON'T COME, DON'T COME WITH ANYTHING ELSE PAST THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN GOING TO BE CONSIDERED. RIGHT. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT HELPED CONSIDERABLY IN, IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, OF COURSE. COMMISSIONER YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE I LIKE THE DEADLINE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE SCORING WAS JUST RIGHT. I LIKE THE WAY WE ALL SCORED. IT WORKED REALLY WELL. I HOPE YOU DO IT THAT WAY AGAIN. YEAH, I THINK THAT IT ELIMINATED SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD HAD IN THE PAST OF, WELL, TODAY YOU APPROVED OR YESTERDAY YOU APPROVED THE THE PURCHASE OF THESE VEHICLES. AND TOMORROW WE WANT YOU TO APPROVE THE THE TIRES FOR THE VEHICLES AND, AND AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THE VEHICLES AND THE, THE CLOTHES THAT I'M GOING TO WEAR DRIVING THAT VEHICLE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE MADE IT, WE MADE IT A SENSIBLE PROCESS THAT THAT ELIMINATED A LOT OF THE, [00:10:01] WHAT I'LL CALL FOOLISHNESS OF THE PAST, WHICH WE HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY TOO. BUT, BUT IT ELIMINATED THOSE THINGS THAT THOSE REQUESTS THAT WERE, WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE, BUT THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? RICHARD, YOU NEVER LOST FOR WORDS OVER THERE. NO, I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B AND DISCUSS AND DECIDE ON GOALS FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR THAT COMING BUDGET [B. Discuss and decide on goals for the Budget Committee for the upcoming budget cycle. (Commissioner Holt)] CYCLE. COMMISSIONER HOLT, ON THIS ITEM, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL OF ONE ACCORD ON THIS. I, I WOULD SAY MY GOALS FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE OR FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE, I SHOULD SAY FOR THE COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY, IS TO, AGAIN, JUST PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE COURT ON EXACTLY HOW WE SEE THE NECESSITY OF CERTAIN ITEMS. COMMISSIONER WALDEN I'M CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER. ANYONE WHO'S LISTENED TO BUDGETS HAS HEARD COMMISSIONER WALDEN VERY WISELY SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEEDS AND WANTS. IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES, WE BUDGET BASED OFF OF NEEDS AND WANTS. AND WHAT I THINK COMMISSIONER WALDEN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB LAST YEAR IN THIS COMMITTEE ON WAS REALLY NAILING THAT POINT HOME. AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GET TO AGAIN, IS THAT WE CLEARLY SEPARATE BETWEEN NEEDS AND WANTS. MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. THAT'S MY MAIN OVERALL GOAL. AND THEN I THINK THERE'S SOME KIND OF SUB GOALS, SO TO SPEAK, ON OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE DEALING WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THIS IS MONEY THAT IS COMING OUT OF OUR CITIZENS POCKETS. THAT IS PRETTY DARN HARD FOR SOME OF THEM TO PAY. AND SO WE HAVE THE HIGHEST DUTY OF FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND CARE THAT WE MUST TAKE TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE SPENT AS EFFICIENTLY, AS AS WISELY AND AS PRUDENTLY AS POSSIBLE. WELL, THAT CERTAINLY HAVE WORKED BECAUSE I HAVE IT AS SIX OF THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. IT'S BEEN A NO NEW REVENUE RATE. I MEAN, WE'VE DONE SOMETHING RIGHT, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE TAXES. IT'S THE SAME TAXES. BASICALLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE, WE, WE ADJUST THE TAX RATE TO OFFSET WHAT YOUR INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES ARE TO KEEP THE OUT OF POCKET EXPENSE THE SAME. AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A GOAL EVERY YEAR IF WE CAN ATTAIN THAT. ONE THING I WANT TO ADD TO THAT COMMISSIONER ON THIS TRANSPARENCY ON THIS KIND OF A SUB THING. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS I TOTALLY COMMEND YOU FOR THIS IS WE'RE STREAMED NOW AS BEFORE, IT WAS A CLOSED DOOR. SO YOUR TRANSPARENCY. WE DON'T JUST SAY THAT WE, WE TAKE ACTION ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE TRANSPARENT. AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. SO VERY GOOD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THIS MEETING. I MEAN, THE WORLD COULD BE WATCHING. SO ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM B? AND AGAIN, IF IF SOMETHING COMES TO MIND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO AN ITEM. I PERSONALLY IT'S BECAUSE IT'S DEFINING GOALS AND I, I THINK WE DID SOME GOOD WORK. THE COMMITTEE DID. I THOUGHT IT WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A NON-GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYEE, A CIVILIAN, IF YOU WILL. MR. HEIZER, TO GIVE THAT INPUT. WE AS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ARE SOMETIMES JUST THAT GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE POSSIBLY THE BEST GRASP ON TAXPAYERS MONEY AS WE SHOULD. I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB, BUT JUST GETTING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WAS HUGE. IT WAS HUGE. YOU TREATED IT LIKE A BUSINESS, AS I THINK MOST, MOST EVERYBODY DOES HERE. BUT GETTING YOUR PERSPECTIVE WAS JUST INVALUABLE. AND HIS OBJECTIVITY. OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. HE WAS A HUGE, HUGE. HE WASN'T JUST A GUY SITTING OVER THERE. HE DID A LOT MORE THAN THAT. AND AS FAR AS GOALS, AS FAR AS EFFICIENCY AND INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY, THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, EVERY OFFICE. AND I THINK HOPEFULLY IF MOVING FORWARD, IF WE COULD EVEN EXPAND ON SOME OF THOSE ROLES, MAYBE WE KNOW WITH TECHNOLOGY, POSSIBLY SOME EMPLOYEES OUT THERE, MAYBE THEIR JOB IS NOT AS, I GUESS, CUMBERSOME AS IT ONCE WAS. AND MAYBE I'M NOT SAYING NOBODY'S NOT NEEDED, BUT REEVALUATION SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE PLACE. I'M, I'M READY AS, AS AN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, HEAD TO FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING I'M ASKING FOR. IN FACT, I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. I WILL JUSTIFY EVERYTHING IN MY REQUEST, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BE READY AND WILLING AND ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU JUDGE. ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER? ANYBODY? I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND MR. SWAYNE. MR. HEIZER, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? WELL, IT'S THE SAME. I THINK THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE BY A MEETING IN HERE, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE AND HEAR US [00:15:01] MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SITTING BACK THERE IN THE BACK WITH A SCRIBBLING ON PAPER KNOWING WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY COMING TO THE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE SCORING PROCESS THAT WE'VE MADE WILL MAKE THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW WE MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. TONY, I APPRECIATE BEING HERE. I SPOKE ALREADY, BUT I WOULD JUST REAL QUICK ADD I DOMINATE THE MIC HERE. BUT ONE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT PEOPLE COME AND IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. BUT FOR THE BUDGET, PEOPLE CAN COME AND GAIN. AND WHILE WE ARE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, IF YOU WILL, PEOPLE CAN COME ANYBODY AND SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL ABOUT WHAT THEY HEAR. AND THAT'S SOMETHING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE STREAMING THIS. PEOPLE CAN COME IN HERE AND SIT DOWN AND THEY CAN COME UP AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. IT'S THEIR MONEY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH AS WELL. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THIS BODY, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS STREAMED NOW, WHICH I THINK IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME AT THE SAME TIME. I WANT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE FREE TO VOTE EXACTLY HOW THEY FEEL LED TO VOTE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS IF WE HAD A IF IF WE HAD A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DON'T. I'M GOING TO USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO RANK THAT LOWER A REQUEST THEY HAVE THAN SOMETHING ELSE, SUCH AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE WANT THOSE VOTES. I WANT TO ASK THIS BODY, DO WE WANT THE VOTES FROM, LIKE MR. HEIZER TO BE SPECIFIC OR FROM MR. SWAIN? DO WE WANT IT TO BE TRANSPARENT? WHO EXACTLY VOTED FOR WHAT? OR DO WE WANT A DEGREE OF ANONYMITY THERE SO THAT EVERYONE IS FREE TO VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE COMPLETELY WITH ZERO PUSHBACK FROM SOMEONE SAYING, HEY, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT TREES AND SIDEWALKS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AGAIN, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. THAT'S WHY I PICKED IT AS AN EXAMPLE. DO YOU ALL SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEP. WELL, FROM MY RECOLLECTION TO WHAT THE PRODUCT WAS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT RECEIVED FROM OUR COMMITTEE LAST TIME WAS A TOTAL AVERAGE SCORE FROM ALL THE MEMBERS FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS. SO LET'S SAY YOU HAD, WHAT, SIX OF US THERE THAT DAY OR WHATEVER. AND AND EVERYBODY WOULD VOTE ON THE ITEM. YOU TAKE THOSE SIX SCORES, PUT THEM TOGETHER, DIVIDE THEM BY SIX. AND THAT WAS THE NUMBER PASSED THROUGH TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DID NOT SEE HOW I INDIVIDUALLY VOTED OR HOW YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR ANY OF THAT, THEY SAW ON A COMBINED SINGULAR NUMBER. YEAH. WELL, ONE OF THE WORRIES THAT YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, IS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME DEGREE OF CANDOR COMING BACK TO THE COURT, OR ELSE IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE WHOLE COMMITTEE. SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO TALK WITH, WITH FULL CANDOR HERE AND QUESTION THE SAME WAY WE QUESTIONED IN THE OTHER ROOM, BECAUSE THAT'S IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING WITH THIS COMMITTEE? SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE CANDOR IN THERE, HOWEVER WE DO THAT. WELL POINT TAKEN. WHAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SHERIFF AUTHIER. MR. HEIZER, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL RECOMMEND? I, I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME ON THE AMENITY AMENITY TYPE OF SIDE OF IT, BUT I, I THINK THAT IT'S BETTER BECAUSE ALL OF US COME FROM VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND, AND HAVING DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES AND THINGS. AND I THINK THE AVERAGING OF THOSE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I MEAN, THAT REALLY SHOWS FROM ALL ASPECTS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS BUDGET COMMITTEE SENSES WE ARE A COMMITTEE. WE'RE NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS ON THE COMMITTEE ITSELF. WE WE'RE A COMMITTEE NOW LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. AND I THINK, TOO, IT'S INCUMBENT. I THINK IT'S. AND IT'LL OVER TIME, IT'LL SHOW TO YOUR YOUR HEADS OF DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WILL UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT JUSTIFICATION IS WHEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PARTICULAR BUDGET. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, I WANT IT OR I NEED IT. WE, WE DO NEED TO SEE JUSTIFICATION. AND SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE. THEN EVEN THAT INDIVIDUAL'S ABILITY AS A HEAD OF A DEPARTMENT. SO I SEE SOME A LOT OF FRUITS FROM THIS THAT ARE GOOD ASPECTS. THAT'S WELL SAID WHAT HE SAID. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? JD DID YOU GET COMMISSIONER. ECOMMENTS. WELL NO, YOU SAYING IT AGAIN. I JUST HAVE ONE THING. IF DEPENDING ON HOW WE DO THE VOTES, WHETHER IT'S OPEN OR CLOSED I KNOW IN MY BUDGET REQUEST THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME [00:20:04] SECURITY MATTERS THAT I ACTUALLY WILL ASK TO TAKE INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF THERE IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO PUT THAT OUT IN PUBLIC. IF THERE'S A MAYBE, LET'S JUST SAY A DEFICIENCY IN A SECURITY ASPECT SOMEWHERE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY REQUEST. AT TIMES IT WON'T BE MUCH, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE SOME ISSUES RIGHT NOW IN THIS BUDGET. I THINK SOMETHING TO THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO REALIZE IS THAT. WHEN IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE. YOU'RE NOT A PART OF IT. YOU MAY PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET, THE SHERIFF IS NOT HERE. WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S BUDGET, WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON THAT, THEY DON'T GET TO VOTE. SO WE DID THAT LAST YEAR. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS SO THAT THERE'S NOBODY IS ABLE TO SUGGEST THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE, THAT YOU'RE SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER LOADING THE COMMITTEE OR INFLUENCING HOW THE COMMITTEE MAKES THE DETERMINATIONS BASED ON YOUR BUDGET. THAT'S HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR. ALL RIGHT. YES. I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS DONE. JUST THE VOTING. THE PRESENTATION WAS DONE, BUT THERE WAS NO SCORING ON YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT. SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION. I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. WE COULD GO AS FORMAL AS WE HAVE OUR OWN SHEET THAT WE WRITE ALL OUR OWN SCORES AND COMMENTS ON, AND WE GIVE IT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE TABULATES THEM. IF WE NEED TO GO TO THAT DEGREE OF FORMALITY, WE CAN. WHAT I ALSO THOUGHT WE COULD DO, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, IS ACCOMMODATING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN COURT NOW THIS YEAR THAT'S STREAMED. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DISCUSSION OUT HERE. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ACTUALLY SCORE IT, MAYBE WE GO IN THAT ROOM AND JUST GET IT DONE THERE AND WE CAN HAVE A WITNESS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IF WE NEED TO. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT LEVEL WE WANT TO. YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CREATE BE CREATING MORE BUREAUCRACY. LET'S JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN SCORE THEM AND YEAH, JUST PAN THEM IN AND GO ON SCORING IN THERE AND TYPE IT UP. Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT? THAT'S FINE. OKAY, GOOD. I'VE GOT THE SAME TEMPLATE I HAVE FROM LAST YEAR. THAT MAKES IT OKAY. ALL RIGHT JUDGE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT ITEM. ALRIGHTY. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM C, DISCUSS AND DECIDE ON ANY CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT TO CONSIDER REGARDING THE UPCOMING BUDGET [C. Discuss and decide on any current recommendations for Commissioners Court to consider regarding the upcoming Budget Workshops. (Commissioner Holt)] WORKSHOPS. COMMISSIONER. WHAT. WHAT REQUESTS DOES THIS BODY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE. THE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR HAD ORGANIZATIONAL CHART REQUESTS. THAT WAS A REQUEST FROM MR. HEIZER. AND SOME THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE PASSED ALONG TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. OR WE PASSED ALONG TO THE DEPARTMENTS TURNING IN A BUDGET. WHAT ELSE LIKE THAT DO WE HAVE? ONE JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST TO THE COMMITTEE WAS JUST TO REVIEW ALL NEW EMPLOYEES FULL TIME, PART TIME OR OTHERWISE. AND THEN THAT KIND OF GREW OVER THE COURSE TO WHERE Y'ALL HAD US LOOKING AT CAPITAL EXPENSES OVER HOWEVER MUCH IT WAS. IN OTHER WORDS, DO YOU WANT TO GROW? DOES THE COURT WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO GROW? IT'S, IT'S, I GUESS THINGS THAT IT'S REVIEWING. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? SO I REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED SOMETHING WITH JOHN'S OFFICE LAST YEAR, SOMETHING TO DO WITH ARTWORK STANDS THAT WAS LIKE 800 BUCKS. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES. AND I KIND OF CAME AWAY FROM THAT THINKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE COMMITTEE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS JUST BECAUSE FROM A, FROM A TIME VALUE STANDPOINT, I THINK AS THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS GO ON, I KNOW MY BRAIN STARTS TO TURN TO MUSH. I THINK THE THERE WOULD BE SOME VALUE IN DROPPING THAT THRESHOLD SO THAT CORPORATELY WE LOOK AT THIS, NOT JUST THOSE VERY HIGH DOLLAR ITEMS, BUT LOWERING THAT THRESHOLD. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NEW CAPITAL THRESHOLD THAT WE USED LAST YEAR WAS, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DID PIVOT TO THAT. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE THING THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD'S AT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE. WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH, WITH TIME CONSTRAINTS AS COURT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE BEING BOMBARDED WITH THINGS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE DISCUSSED IN THIS COMMITTEE AND SCORED IN THIS COMMITTEE, AND THEY'RE BROUGHT TO US AFTER THE FACT. SOMETIMES WE WE MIGHT MAKE A RUSH DECISION. I WANT THOSE DONE HERE IF POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE CAN COVER THOSE THINGS. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WASTE THE COURT'S TIME. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE SITTING HERE THAT WE HAVE TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DECIDE TODAY ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THAT THAT THAT PRESSURE CAN LEAD TO A DECISION THAT'S NOT THE BEST. AND SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN HANDLE THOSE THINGS IN THIS COMMITTEE, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE HERE, ALL OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE, GET A SCORE TO IT, THEN THAT GIVES GUIDANCE TO THE COURT AND HELPS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE ABLE TO [00:25:05] LOOK AT A VERSUS B, HOW CAN WE SPEND THIS MONEY OR DO WE NOT SPEND EITHER ONE OF THEM? IT SIMPLIFIES IT FOR THE COURT. AND AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE UNDER THE GUN FROM A TIME PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION, IT'S A LOT BETTER IF WE'VE GOT SOME GUIDANCE. SO I BELIEVE I THINK Y'ALL ARE GOOD ON THE RIGHT TRAIL HERE. LET'S LOWER IT AND LOOK AT LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO THERE. SURE. I THINK AS FAR AS EXPANDING THE ROLE OF THIS COMMITTEE, I DON'T SEE ANY DOWNSIDE TO GETTING THIS LARGE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN, BECAUSE EFFICIENCY IS THE GOAL AND WHETHER THAT'S LOWERING THE THRESHOLD ON CAPITAL, NON-CAPITAL PERSONNEL, ANYTHING. I THINK IT IS ONLY GOING TO BE A POSITIVE THING. THE ONLY NEGATIVE IS IS TO OUR TIME. BUT IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR AND I THINK THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY'S HERE. THEY WILL SPEND THEIR TIME TO SEE THAT WE ARE OPERATING MORE EFFICIENTLY AND AT A HIGHER PRODUCTIVITY LEVEL. SO I KNOW I AGREE WITH YOU AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO AND EVEN ADD TO THAT, IF I'M HEARING YOU ALL RIGHT, WHERE MY HEAD IS AT, AND MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF ITEM D, BUT I THINK IT'S FLUID ENOUGH. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT HERE AS WELL. IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS COMMITTEE, IN MY OPINION, SHOULDN'T JUST BE LOOKING AT NEW PERSONNEL, NEW EQUIPMENT. WE SHOULD JUST BE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET OF EACH DEPARTMENT. I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE TIME, AND I KNOW THE SCHEDULING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BECOME VERY IMPORTANT, AS WELL AS THE DEADLINES FOR THE COURT. AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU KNOW AND WHEN WE NEED THINGS. IT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL TO, TO, TO LAY ALL THAT OUT. SO. DO YOU THINK PERHAPS WE SHOULD START THEN WITH NEW PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND THEN AS TIME ALLOWS, EXPAND INTO OTHER THINGS? WELL, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. I THINK AGAIN, AND I DON'T KNOW FROM YOUR BUDGETING PROCESS WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF GETTING THE INFORMATION TO US AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT I THINK WE'VE STARTED EARLY ENOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN COVER MOST ALL OF IT. I BELIEVE THE BUDGET REQUESTS WERE TURNED IN. BIANCA, WHAT DATE WERE. HAVE ALL BUDGET REQUESTS BEEN RECEIVED? PRETTY MUCH. OKAY. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK WE CAN START DIGGING INTO IT. WHAT DOES THIS BODY FEEL LIKE ABOUT REVIEWING THE ENTIRE BUDGET INSTEAD OF JUST NEW PERSONNEL, NEW EQUIPMENT? I'M GOOD FOR IT. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I'M GOOD. I WILL SAY THE ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IF WE DO THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW WE MAKE REQUESTS OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT UNITS THAT ARE WITHIN THE BUDGET, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO HAVE EXPECTATIONS LAID OUT FOR THEM. MAYBE WE HAVE THEM PRESENT IT SO THAT WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER OR, OR QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED OF US AS DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO COME IN AND SAY, GIVE ME ALL THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU DO OR YOU'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR, THEIR REGULAR JOB. AND SO WE'LL NEED TO MAKE CLEAR OUR EXPECTATIONS TO THEM. AND THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM. WE MAY HAVE THEM COME IN AND GO THROUGH THEIR BUDGET WITH THEM AND THEN HAVE ASKS OF THEM TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE RATHER THAN JUST TELL THEM, TELL US, YOU KNOW, THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS EVERY SINGLE THING. WE GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, THIS PARTICULAR THING, WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS, WHY YOU NEED THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE GOOD USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME. AND I WILL SAY TO ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS SIDE OF THINGS AT THE BEGINNING WAS THAT THERE'S POSSIBLY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS FROM ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS OR FOUR COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE, IF Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT. THE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE FOR YOUR TIME IS, ARE YOU REALLY JUST HAVING BUDGET BEFORE YOU HAVE BUDGET? SO THAT'D BE MY WORRY. WELL, AND THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. HOWEVER, WE WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST YOU KNOW. SET, SET ASIDE. ONLY YOU MAY BE HERE. AND FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY THERE HAPPENS TO BE FOUR OF THE FIVE HERE. ONE COULDN'T BE HERE FOR FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT IT WILL COME UP, THIS WILL COME UP PERIODICALLY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE, RIGHT? WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT DAY AND YOU KNOW, HOW YOU, HOW YOU ALLOCATE YOUR TIME. FOR EXAMPLE WE'RE GETTING FLOOD ISSUES ON MY PHONE RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT THINGS ARE LIKE IN PRECINCT THREE TODAY. AND SO I'M GETTING ISSUE AFTER ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD BEFORE WE GET UP AND LEAVE. SO SPEED IT UP. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. BUT BUT THERE WILL BE TIMES FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT SOMEBODY CAN'T COME, BUT BUT WE WANT TO HAVE IT OPEN TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, TO, TO PARTICIPATE. AND, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PROCESS. AND IT IS, IT IS, IT IS. [00:30:03] BUT WE'RE NOT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT. WE'RE JUST SCORING. AND SO THAT THAT ABILITY TO BE HERE WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO BE HERE FOR. THAT'S GOOD. BUT THERE WILL BE MANY TIMES WHEN EVERYBODY WON'T BE HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. GOOD POINT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO ITEM D. TAKE ANY ACTION IS TAKE ANY OTHER ACTION AS NEEDED, [D. Take any other action as needed which pertains to the role, purpose, or scope of the Budget Committee. (Commissioner Holt)] WHICH PERTAINS TO THE ROLE, PURPOSE OR SCOPE OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I KNOW SOME OF THIS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN COMMISSIONER HOLT. WOULD YOU KIND OF START THIS OFF A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. THE LAST TWO ITEMS ARE KIND OF CATCH ALLS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING OR I DIDN'T WORD IT BROADLY ENOUGH SO THAT WE COULDN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING. BUT AGAIN, TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE JUST SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING NOW, NOT JUST NEW PERSONNEL, NEW EQUIPMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION ONLY THERE'S NO BINDING AUTHORITY HERE WHATSOEVER. WE DO HAVE THIS UNDER OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT SPECIAL AGENDAS, SO THAT TO THE DEGREE TO WHICH CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS CAN OR ARE ABLE TO ATTEND, THEY CAN DO SO WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY OF THE LAWS REGARDING QUORUMS OR OPEN MEETINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK I'VE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS HAS BEEN COVERED EVERYTHING IN ITEM D, I THINK SOLELY IN ITEM E, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL. IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, JUST SAY ONE REAL QUICK THING. I WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN, THE KIND OF THE SCOPE OF THIS IS ONE WE DON'T ALLOW NON AGENDA ITEM SPEAKING. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME UP HERE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND THIS IS SOMETHING I ACTUALLY FAVORED AT ONE POINT. BUT TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN'T RESPOND TO THAT. SO THEY BEAT THEY BEAT YOU UP. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE WHETHER IT WANTS TO BE ON THE AGENDA. THEY COULD COME UP HERE AND DISCUSS ANYTHING IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS AGENDA, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS, AND YOU GET MORE COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THAT. AND SO I THINK FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT IT GOES BACK TO WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY COMMENT WE MADE WAS, ONE, IT IS TRANSPARENT. TWO, YOU'RE GETTING MORE INPUT AND ENCOURAGING MORE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY BY ALLOWING THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME UP. IF THEY SAY BEFORE, WHEN WE HAD THE WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED LAST YEAR, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ABILITY TO SEE THAT IT WHEN IT'S STREAMED TWO, THEY COME. AND NOT ONLY THAT, THEY CAN SPEAK. THAT ADDS VALUE TO THIS AND TRANSPARENCY TO THIS, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS THEIR MONEY. AND I THINK THAT JUST REALLY FULLY COVERS THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS IS, IS, ONE, GETTING THE INPUT OF THOSE THAT WERE TAKING THEIR MONEY. SO. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS IN PLACE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE WILL HAVE AT COMMISSIONERS COURT. CORRECT. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK. BUT I'M ALWAYS REMINDED OF THE TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN WHEN FOLKS HAVE COME THAT WEREN'T FULLY INFORMED. AND I MEAN. THEY DON'T KNOW ALL THE PIECES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR US TO PUT IN PLACE THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPEND MONEY ON AREN'T OPTIONAL. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE JUDICIARY WE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND I LOOK FOR SOME GOOD CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT NOT JUST THAT YOU SHOULD ELIMINATE ALL EVERYTHING AND GO FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A CONSTRUCTIVE THING. SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT FOLKS THAT WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO COME, WOULD BE INFORMED AND COME TO OUR LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, LEARN WHY WE HAVE TO DO. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, WE GOTTA PAY THE SHERIFF OVER HERE. AND HERE'S WHY. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED THAT WE PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION AND THAT WE, WE DON'T JUST PULL THE NUMBERS OUT OF THE AIR THAT, THAT WE HAVE DATA THAT SAYS, HERE'S OUR RESPONSE TIMES, HERE'S OUR NUMBER OF, OF OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, PER POPULATION, ALL THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE USED TO COME UP WITH DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY THE COURT. AND WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN HERE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. THE SAME SAME THING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WHY DO WE HAVE THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS? WHAT'S THE CASELOAD? THOSE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY. AND THAT'S THE DATA THAT IS USED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. AGAIN, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, JEFF'S PRETTY GOOD OLD OH, BOY. OVER THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FUND HIS DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER HE NEEDS. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. [00:35:04] AND WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO INPUT FROM WHOEVER MIGHT BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND MIGHT WANT TO DO IT. BUT I JUST, I'M JUST, I DON'T FORESEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LISTEN. IF YOU CAN'T COME OR TO, OR TO COME AND PARTICIPATE AND LISTEN TO HOW THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE, HOW DO WE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE USE TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE COME UP WITH AT THE END? CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. SO WHO ALL ARE THE ACTUAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? IS IT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEN THOSE THAT WERE ON BEFORE JUST IN CASE SOMEONE WOULD SAY LIKE, WHO'S ON THIS COMMITTEE? JUST SO I WOULD MAKE SURE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S SO. SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, YES, YOU YOU COVERED THAT. HOWEVER, IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME EACH TIME. BACK TO THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THEY MAY HAVE THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMITMENTS. THE JUDGE MAY BE AT A MEETING SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE. IT MAY BE THE COMMITTEE MAY NOT CONSIST OF EVERYBODY IF THEIR DEPARTMENT IS BEING COVERED, FOR EXAMPLE. SO IT'S A IT'S THOSE ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT THEY WON'T ALL BE HERE EVERY TIME. JUST I WAS JUST WONDERING TO GET THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO WERE WHETHER SO OR NOT. SO BACK TO YOUR DEAL THAT YOU HAVE THE. YOU HAVE THE NAMES THERE, BUT. BUT ANY GIVEN MEETING DATE, IT MAY BE A SEPARATE, A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT COMMITTEE. OKAY. SO THEN YEAH, SO. COMMISSIONER CONLEY COMMISSIONER HALE, EVERYBODY HERE AND THAT. CORRECT? YES. AND THEN THE STANDING THE STANDING MEMBERS ARE MR. HEIZER, MR. SWAIN, SHERIFF ATHEY, A MRS. MCCULLOCH, OR GRANDMA MEEMA, AS WE LIKE TO CALL HER. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'LL PAY FOR THAT ONE. YES. YES YOU WILL. ANYTHING ELSE? FROM ANYONE HERE? ANY COMMENTS ON ITEM D? I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD ONE THING. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY. THERE ARE SO MANY UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT THE COUNTY HAS, AS DOES ANY DEPARTMENT HAS. AND I THINK THAT IT HELPS TO BECOME AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN CERTAIN FUNDS HAVE TO BE SPENT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW OR LEGISLATED OR WHATEVER. AND SO I THINK THIS NEEDS TO COME OUT OF THIS TOO, THAT WE EDUCATE AS WELL. WHAT, WHAT THESE THINGS ARE, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN MANDATORY TYPES OF BUDGET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER PARTS OF IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO ME, IT'S, IT'S AS MUCH EDUCATIONAL YOU KNOW, AS IT IS AS WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PARTS. SO GOOD POINT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? I SAY THIS EVERY TIME. IT'S JUST GOOD. THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE LISTENING THAT HAVEN'T BEEN LISTENING BEFORE. THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TAX DOLLAR THAT GOES TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 15% RANGE. 15% OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL IS ALL THAT THE COUNTY USES OR GETS. THE OTHER GOES TO OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY. SO OF THAT 15%, ABOUT 80% GOES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. WHICH THE DOESN'T LEAVE VERY MUCH 20% OF 15% IS HOW MUCH IS LEFT TO PAY EVERYTHING ELSE. AND. FOR ALL THE FAULTS THAT WE HAVE I THINK THAT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT COULD VERY WELL BE ONE OF THE, IF NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF YOUR TAX DOLLAR FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE PROVIDED FROM THAT 15%. YET WE WE ARE THE ONES THAT GET THE MOST SCRUTINY OF ANY TAXING ENTITY IN THIS COUNTY AND PROBABLY EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON WHAT YOUR TOTAL TAX BILL IS, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO SHARE PUBLICLY WHAT WE DO HERE. AND, AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A EFFECT ON YOUR TOTAL TAX BILL. LOOK AT THE OTHER 85% AND SEE HOW YOU COULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON THEIR EXPENDITURES. OKAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE 15% OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, NOT 100%, AS SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE. [00:40:01] OKAY. AND AGAIN, THAT'S BACK TO THAT EDUCATION FACTOR. HOW CAN WE LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT, AND HOW WE DO IT WITH ONLY 15% OF YOUR TAX BILL? OKAY. YEAH. I GIVE A STATE OF THE COUNTY AND THERE'S THIS REALLY IT IT'S THEY NEED TO UPDATE IT. IT'S FROM TAC. IT'S PROBABLY THE DUMBEST VIDEO MAKES YOU LAUGH, BUT IT'S VERY THOROUGH IN HOW IT BREAKS DOWN THE COUNTY IN THEIR ROLE AND ALL THAT THEY DO FOR THAT 15%. AND AS CHEESY AS IT IS, IT'S VERY EDUCATIONAL AND I ALWAYS GIVE IT. YEAH. SO I FORCE THIS ON PEOPLE TO WATCH THAT THING. SO, WELL, 13.5 YEARS I'VE BEEN MAKING THAT SPEECH AND I'M STILL, STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. SO. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY, ANYBODY? YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON ITEM D? OKAY. WE CAN COME BACK TO IT. IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING AND WE CAN MOVE OUT OF ME. [E. Discuss any other matters pe1iaining to the Parker County Budget. (Commissioner Holt)] DISCUSS ANY OTHER MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE PARKER COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU WITH TWO ITEMS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE INFORMATION SENT. BIANCA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. OUT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THE WORKBOOKS AND ALL OF THAT. THOSE WHO HAVE. SOUNDS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF TROUBLEMAKERS OUT THERE WHO HAVE NOT SUBMITTED A WORKBOOK. I THINK THEY NEED TO GET THAT WRAPPED UP IMMEDIATELY. AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ITEM I HAVE IS TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD NEXT MEETING DATE. ONE THING THAT THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS WE ARE TRYING TO ACCELERATE OUR SCHEDULE ON THE WORKSHOP SIDE BY ABOUT TWO WEEKS IN TERMS OF WE'RE WANTING TO HAVE THE DECISIONS MADE SOONER RATHER THAN EARLIER THIS YEAR, WITH THE GOAL TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE THAN WE'VE BEEN MAYBE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I DO THINK THAT WILL HELP WITH ELIMINATING SOME OF THOSE LAST MINUTE REQUESTS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN IS A GOOD DATE TO MEET AGAIN? DO YOU WANT TO JUST CIRCULATE THAT OR DO YOU? BECAUSE THAT MAY BE THE HARDEST THING THAT WE DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO FIND TIMES TO MEET. OKAY, I CAN, I CAN CIRCULATE THAT. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO THE COURT IF IT'S OKAY IF WE CIRCULATE THAT BETWEEN MYSELF, COMMISSIONER WALDEN, MR. HEIZER, MR. SWAIN, SHERIFF AUTHIER, AND MRS. MCCULLOUGH, AND RICH COUNTRIES, AND THEN HAVE RICHARD POST IT. I THINK IF WE TRY TO ADD IN ACCOMMODATING JUDGE YOUR SCHEDULE, COMMISSIONER, YOUR SCHEDULE, COMMISSIONER HALE'S SCHEDULE, THAT'S ADDING THREE MORE PEOPLE TO ACCOMMODATE. THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, IN MY OPINION. CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE, TO CIRCULATE A BUNCH OF THEM SO THAT WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE, BUT WE ALSO CAN START GOING AHEAD AND PUTTING THESE ON OUR CALENDARS. PERFECT. SO THAT WE DON'T GET CONFLICTS THAT COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. LET'S TRY TO LOOK MAYBE THE NEXT FOUR MEETINGS DEEP, IF WE CAN GET AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, GOOD. SO THEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT. BIANCA, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FINALIZED TO THE COURT BY AS YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET CALENDAR. REFRESH MY MEMORY ON WHEN THE LAST DAY NOT THE LAST DAY, BUT AROUND WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THE DECISIONS MADE AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL NEED TO BE TO THE COURT BEFORE THEN. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO AUGUST AT THE END OF AUGUST. SO SO PERHAPS WE COULD DO OUR BEST AS A COMMITTEE TO BE DONE BY AUGUST 1ST. IS THAT FAIR? WELL, AND KEEP IN MIND, THOUGH, ALSO LIKE THE JUVENILE BOARD DOESN'T GET ALL THE DATA FOR THEM TO SUBMIT TO US. OTHER AROUND THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST ALSO. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE'LL BE SOME DEPARTMENTS OUT THERE THAT WILL STRAGGLE IN JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READY. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE THAT TEND TO COME IN LATE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF VOICE IN THOSE. YOU SAID THAT YOU SAID THAT I DIDN'T. ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT DATA PRIOR TO THE AUGUST 1ST. I THINK THIS COMMITTEE IS INTERESTED IN GETTING THAT DATA SOONER, SOONER THAN THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE REQUESTS AND TRY TO MAKE THOSE IN LINE WITH OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS. I GUESS WE COULD REQUEST THAT THOSE THAT INFORMATION GET TO US SOONER. ONCE AGAIN. ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW IS THAT THE COURT CAN'T BE MAKING DECISIONS PROBABLY BEFORE THAT 1ST OF AUGUST, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE LAST LAST WEEK OF JULY. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT PLAYS IT COMES TO PLAY FOR THE COURT. BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION SOONER, THEN THEN THERE'S NO REASON WHY THIS COMMITTEE COULDN'T WRAP UP ABOUT THE END OF JULY, [00:45:06] 1ST OF AUGUST. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FIRST. SO I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES AS A COMMITTEE. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO BE MAKING SOME DECISIONS. OKAY, OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE TIMING AND ANY OTHER MATTERS RIGHT NOW PERTAINING TO THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE? DO YOU WANT BIANCA TO COME UP AND ADDRESS ANYTHING WITH THE SCHEDULING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FINALIZED, IF I CALL IT BEGINNING OF AUGUST, THAT WORKS WITH YOUR CALENDAR, BIANCA. OKAY. JUST ONE MORE THING. IT MIGHT SAVE SOME HELP OR TIME WITH SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS. IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR NEW PEOPLE, HAVE THEM INCLUDE JUSTIFICATION WITH THAT REQUEST. OTHERWISE IT'LL COME TO THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE WILL GO BACK TO WHAT WE NEED THIS, THIS AND THIS. I KNOW IT'S DISCUSSED, BUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED. SO WE NEED MORE PEOPLE. MAYBE IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A CLERK, ASK, GET WHAT YOUR OTHER CLERKS ARE DOING, MAYBE SOME NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, TIMES FIVE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE CLERKS WORK IS NOT DONE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE HELP NOW. AND I THINK THE COMMISSIONER USED TO SIT ACROSS OVER THERE STEVE WOULD SAY JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO WORK EIGHT HOURS IN A DAY IS NOT REALLY OUR PROBLEM, AND SOMEBODY ONLY HAS TO WORK SIX HOURS A DAY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAID TO WORK EIGHT HOURS A DAY. AND TO ME, THAT'S NOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR ASKING FOR NEW PEOPLE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO JUST SO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR I KNOW BECAUSE MR. HEISER BROUGHT THIS UP PRETTY, PRETTY WELL LAST YEAR, JUST THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS WHY YOU NEED THAT. ARE YOU PAYING OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS WORK DONE OR ARE YOUR FOLKS GOING HOME AND THE WORK IS NOT COMPLETED? REALLY, A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S HELPFUL TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD TO, TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER AND ANALYZE, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, HOW MUCH WORK AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THOSE ARE GOOD JUSTIFICATIONS TO ME TO HAVE THAT ANALYSIS, TO SHOW THAT, YES, IT'S NOT GETTING DONE. AND WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THIS DEPARTMENT IS NOT GETTING DONE BECAUSE OF IT. AND SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT IT'S IT DOES HELP. AND IT'S, IT'S A GOOD MANAGEMENT TOOL, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS. SO I THINK IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO YOUR POINT, SHERIFF, IS THAT WE GET WELL, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE COUNTY IS GROWING. THEREFORE, WE NEED MORE EMPLOYEES IN MY DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AND FOR ANYBODY THAT'S THAT'S PONDERING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE IF YOU DON'T HAVE DATA TO BACK UP A NEW REQUEST, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET A RELATIVELY LOW SCORE. WELL, I DO THINK THAT THAT ACTUALLY WAS IN OUR BUDGET PACKET. IT WAS I KNOW FOR ALL MY STUFF, I, I WROTE YOU ALL A LETTER AND YOU'RE PROBABLY LIKE YOU'RE LAWYERING THAT TO DEATH, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT I DO. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REQUESTED AND SHOULD BE IN THERE. THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU NEED THIS NEW POSITION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO EDUCATE IS REPETITION. GOTCHA. THERE YOU GO. YEP. AND LAST YEAR TOO. BUT SOME PEOPLE, THEIR IDEA OF JUSTIFICATION AND MAYBE COMMISSIONERS WALLET IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO YES. JUDGE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT ITEM UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING. I'M JUST LETTING Y'ALL DIGEST THAT. AND I'M WAITING FOR MR. HAUSER TO THANK MR. ROGERS. READY TO MOVE TO ADJOURN. WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I'VE BACKED MY CHAIR UP, SO I JUST GOT. I'VE ALREADY GOT A MOTION. I JUST WANT TO BE I DON'T WANT TO BE RUSHING ANYTHING BECAUSE THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF. I WANT TO DEFER TO BIANCA. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO ANY OF THIS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON HOW THE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR JULY 8TH IN THE 14TH, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE SET TO BE HERE, AND I KNOW THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. SO ARE WE GOING. AM I GOING TO SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMITTEE AS WELL WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE WORKSHOPS SEPARATELY? SO WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM TWICE EACH. IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, HOW ABOUT WE GET THE FIRST ROUND OF DATA? AND AS WE LOOK THROUGH IT, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT SHOW UP TO US AS WE REVIEW THAT DATA THAT WE WE NEED TO MEET WITH THOSE FOLKS. THEN THERE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME THAT NO, WE DON'T YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING OUTSTANDING IN THOSE. [00:50:05] SO HOW ABOUT WE KIND OF GET THAT FEEDBACK INTERNALLY FIRST AND THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. DOES THAT WORK? THAT WORKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BIANCA. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONNELLY TO ADJOURN. AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. RECORD. SHOW THAT WE'LL ADJOURN AT 1053. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.