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[Budget Committee on July 29, 2026.]

[00:00:02]

IF POSSIBLE. IT'S MY MIC NOW ON. SOUNDS MORE ECHOEY.

IT IS NOW. OKAY. WELL, WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY CONTROLLING HERE.

SOME ABOUT THAT CHAIR. SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CHAIR.

GOLLY. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

OKAY. BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY, WE NEED TO PICK OUT THE NEXT REMAINING DATES BECAUSE WE HAVE NEXT WEEK SCHEDULED.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY PERMANENT ITEMS SCHEDULED AGAIN.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU ALL WANT TO KNOCK THAT OUT RIGHT NOW? OR DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT AT THE END OF COURT? DOESN'T MATTER.

CAN WE LOOK SO WE HAVE. THIS WEDNESDAY OR TODAY IS A WEDNESDAY IN THE MORNING.

NEXT WEEK IS WEDNESDAY IN THE MORNING. WHAT ABOUT WEDNESDAYS IN THE MORNING ON THE 12TH.

THE 19TH AND POTENTIALLY THE 26TH. WHEN IS THE FIRST BUDGET COURT SCHEDULED? I'M SORRY, I SHOULD PROBABLY. BECAUSE I WOULD HOPE THE COMMITTEE'S DONE BEFORE THE FIRST BUDGET COURT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE THE CALENDAR I'M LOOKING AT DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

BUT THIS IS MY PERSONAL CALENDAR, SO I'M PROBABLY JUST MISSING IT.

AUGUST 11TH. IS THE NEXT BUDGET COURT. IT'S THE FIRST BUDGET COURT.

SO WHAT DATES DO YOU HAVE BESIDES AUGUST 11TH? BIANCA SAID 1113 AND THE 25TH. 11. 13. 17. SO WE HAVE A TUESDAY, A THURSDAY, A MONDAY AND A TUESDAY. 11TH.

13TH. 17TH. 25TH. OKAY. I WOULD I WOULD KIND OF BE ALONGSIDE WITH WHAT BECKY WAS SAYING.

WE NEED TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION DONE SO THAT WE CAN GET IT ALL TABULATED INTO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BEFORE THEY START, BEFORE YOU ALL START DOING YOUR ACTUAL BUDGET STUFF.

OTHERWISE, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE UTILITY THAT WE WANT IT TO HAVE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO OVERESTIMATE OUR ZEALOUSNESS TO MAKE DECISIONS QUICKLY.

OKAY. OKAY. THIS COMMITTEE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

OKAY. BECAUSE I CAN MAKE THIS REAL EASY. ZERO.

YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK, REASONABLY SPEAKING, I THINK IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE IF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAVE ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, CALL IT BY THE 12TH. THAT HONESTLY, WE COULD STRETCH THAT TO THE 19TH. AND THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME BECAUSE MOST OF THE HEAVY DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ARE GOING TO BE BACK, ARE GOING TO BE BACKLOGGED. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT THE LAST END OF THAT PROCESS.

WHAT WE TEND TO KNOCK OUT FIRST IS THE SO AND SO NEEDS A NEW TRUCK.

THE CURRENT TRUCK IS 200,000 MILES. JUST THE KIND OF CHECK MARK ONES.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO WHY DON'T WE TARGET WE HAVE THE FIFTH ALREADY SCHEDULED.

DO WE WANT TO DO THE 12TH OR DO WE WANT TO DO.

WE CAN'T DO THE 10TH. THAT'S COMMISSIONERS COURT UNLESS WE DO IT IN THE AFTERNOON. DO WE WANT TO DO THE SEVENTH IN THE MORNING? THAT WOULD BE NEXT FRIDAY MORNING. I CAN DO THAT.

YEAH, I CAN DO THAT AT NINE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE FIFTH AND THE SEVENTH.

IF WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS WE CAN.

I MEAN I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I'M I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME TO SCORE EVERYTHING THAT'S PRESENTED TO US.

OKAY. I FEEL LIKE IF WE, I THINK SOME PEOPLE, IF THEY GET THEIR SCORES, MAY WANT TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU KNOW? BUT WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T WE JUST GO AHEAD AND MARK DOWN? WE'RE MEETING AGAIN NEXT WEDNESDAY WITH THE GOAL TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP ON FRIDAY AND BE DONE BY THE SEVENTH.

IS THAT FAIR TO EVERYONE? IS THAT. YES. 9 A.M.

DOES THAT WORK FOR Y'ALL? YES. KEEP IT. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

BIANCA. KIM. COURTROOM. GOOD FOR FRIDAY THE SEVENTH.

I CAN TEXT RICH REAL QUICK. COMMISSIONER. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? HE MAY HAVE ME ON MUTE. THERE YOU GO. HEY, COMMISSIONER.

WALDEN. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THAT CAME THROUGH ON THE SIGNAL, BUT ARE YOU GOOD TO MEET NEXT WEDNESDAY? WE HAD THAT ONE PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED AND THEN ALSO FINISH UP.

THEN ON FRIDAY MORNING AT 9 A.M. THAT WOULD BE THE SEVENTH.

OH OH. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON A RADIO. NO, CB. BREAKER, BREAKER.

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A LOT OF STATIC COMING THROUGH. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU RIGHT BACK.

I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. THERE WAS A LOT OF ELECTRONIC FEEDBACK GOING ON.

ARE YOU GOOD FOR THE SEVENTH? EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

FIFTH AND SEVENTH. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PLAN TO MEET NEXT WEDNESDAY AT NINE AND THEN NEXT FRIDAY AT NINE.

SOUNDS GOOD. I WILL GIVE THE JUDGE AND RICH. AND BRIAN A HEADS UP ON THAT. WEDNESDAY.

OKAY, LET'S GET ON OVER THEN TO THE MAIN TOPIC OF TODAY, WHICH IS REVIEWING THE PERSONNEL REQUESTS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE. DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE SCORING AT THIS TIME? LIKE, IS THERE ANY OUTSTANDING INFORMATION ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.

DO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE EVEN GIVING A PRELIMINARY SCORE? NOT FOR ME. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. SO. WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, THEN? WHY DON'T WE SCORE THOSE AFTER? BECAUSE KIM HAS A LOT OF STUFF.

SORRY. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T WE WORK THROUGH THE CAPITAL ROUND FIRST, THEN WE'LL SCORE.

THAT WAY, WHEN WE SCORE, WE CAN GO BACK IN THAT ROOM AND BE DONE FROM THERE.

AND WE'RE NOT MAKING KIM WAIT ON US. IS THAT FAIR? THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. OKAY, SO, KIM, IF YOU WILL WORK THROUGH.

I'VE GOTTA HAVE SPECTACLES NOW. MAKES YOU LOOK DIGNIFIED.

SOMETHING BLIND. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO START OUT AND I EMAILED YOU ALL THE SPREADSHEETS YESTERDAY LATE, BUT I'VE TWEAKED A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY I PRINTED YOU ALL OUT A COPY.

WE'LL START WITH THE THE CAPITAL NON-CAPITAL REQUEST AND TELL Y'ALL TELL ME TO SLOW DOWN IF YOU NEED ME TO.

SO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS REQUESTING A $3,000 AED, THE DEFIBRILLATOR THING.

CCL TWO IS REQUESTING A BULLETIN BOARD FOR OUTSIDE HER COURTROOM FOR $1,200.

CAN I ASK ON THE ON THE. YEAH. DO THEY NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ONE OR IS THIS FOR ONE FOR A DIFFERENT LOCATION? I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE ONE SOMEWHERE, BUT THEY MAY BE ASKING FOR ONE FOR A VEHICLE OR.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK SO. THERE WAS SOME DONATED TO THE COUNTY, I THINK TO THE CONSTABLES OFFICE.

SO WE GOT SOME AEDS TWO YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 24.

YEAH. FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT VIA A GRANT THAT SEAN HUGHES HAD HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH, I THINK. OKAY. SO CCL TWO WOULD LIKE A BULLETIN BOARD OUTSIDE HER COURTROOM FOR $1,200.

IT'S BIG, FRAMED IN WITH GLASS. IT'S NOT JUST YOUR STANDARD BULLETIN BOARD.

PRECINCT. I'M SORRY, JP1 WE'RE CONFIRMING RIGHT NOW WITH SEAN LEITH UP THERE, BUT I HAVE ON MY LIST, THEY WANT THREE DESKS AT 400 AND $1,428 EACH.

THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $4,290. AND I'M THINKING THAT THAT IS CONTINGENT UPON THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX REMODEL. IS THAT YOUR OKAY? YEAH. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS IF THIS GETS APPROVED THE CONTINGENCY THERE'S A CONTINGENCY HERE. SO WHAT HAPPENS.

WELL THEY WOULDN'T GET THEM UNLESS THE COURT APPROVED THE REMODEL OF THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS SET ASIDE AND IS HELD UNTIL THIS HAPPENS.

INTERESTING. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, SO THIS IS ALL CONTINGENT TO, I MEAN, TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

IF SOMEONE LOOKED AT THIS AND SAY THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE COST OF THE DEATH OF $1,428.

IS THAT REASONABLE? OKAY. WE HAVE A DESK UNITS AND STUFF THAT COST QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THAT,

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BUT THEY LAST. AND WE'VE GOT DESKS ALL IN THE ANNEX.

THAT WE PAID $3,500 FOR AN OFFICE AT ONE STATION, BUT THE LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS.

SO, SO IT'S REAL WOOD, NOT THE PARTICLE STUFF. IT'S STILL THE PARTICLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A HEAVIER BUILT ALL OF THE STUFF IN THE AUDITOR'S TREASURER AND PURCHASING THAT FURNITURE WAS BOUGHT IN 2007 AND IT WOULD HAVE LASTED A LOT LONGER IF WE HADN'T HAD THE FLOOD IN THE BUILDING.

THERE WAS IT WAS IN PERFECT CONDITION. THE ONLY REASON WHY.

BUT BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF BOARD AND SUCKED UP THE WATER INTO THE BOTTOM OF IT.

RUINED IT. BUT YEAH, THAT STUFF IS. IT'S GOOD.

WE GET IT FROM HI, HON. IS THAT THE NAME? YEAH, HON.

SO 1400 IS REASONABLE. MOVING DOWN TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A BALLISTIC LEVEL THREE SHIELD.

STEEL ARMOR PLATE. THEY'LL USE THAT IF FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND THAT WOULD BE $715. THEY NEED UNDERCOVER VEHICLE EMERGENCY LIGHTING RED, BLUE TO OUTFIT A VEHICLE THAT THEY PURCHASED IN 2020 WITH THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND THAT'S $2,300. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE GOING UNDERCOVER.

IT'S, IT'S THE UNDERNEATH THE VEHICLE LIGHTS.

CORRECT. IT DEPENDS ON IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT, WHETHER IT'S A VISOR MOUNTED LIGHT OR JUST SOMETHING JUST A BAR ON THE TOP.

IT'S MORE DISCREET. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THEY'VE REQUESTED SOME FUNDS FOR OFF OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT FOR $600 FOR UNEXPECTED BREAKAGES OR NEEDS, AND 750 FOR TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY MIGHT NEED TO REPLACE SOMETHING.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE NON CAP. MOVING DOWN TO BUILDING AND GROUNDS HVAC EQUIPMENT.

WE THEY BUDGET 100 OR REQUEST $100,000 EACH YEAR FOR HVAC UNIT REPLACEMENTS AND SO FORTH.

THEY HAVE A REQUEST FOR A ZERO TURN MOWER OF $10,207.

THEY HAD TWO ON THEIR BUDGET REQUEST EARLIER, BUT THEY HAD TO REPLACE ONE THAT BURNED UP THIS YEAR.

SO THEY REDUCED THAT DOWN TO ONE. AND THEN THEY ARE REQUESTING A NEW THREE QUARTER TON CREW CAB PICKUP FOR TWO OF THOSE FOR $97,900 TOTAL, AND THEN UNEXPECTED EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT SUCH AS WEED EATERS AND LAWN LAWNMOWERS AND OTHER THINGS, LEAF BLOWERS AND STUFF. THEY'VE REQUESTED $10,000 IN THEIR NON EQUIPMENT.

I MEAN DEPARTMENTAL EQUIPMENT. NON. KAPLAN. CONSTABLE ONE IS REQUESTING TWO BALLISTIC VESTS AT $1,586 EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 3172. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

DO BALLISTIC VESTS. EXPIRE FROM A WARRANTY PERSPECTIVE.

YES THEY DO. WELL YES. BECAUSE THEY THEY THEY PUT ONE ON THEM AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE THAT EXPIRATION ON THEM.

THEY HAVE FIVE YEAR EVEN EVEN OUR SHIELDS DO.

IT'S JUST YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A CERTIFICATION RATE AND THERE'S A TRUE EXPIRATION DATE.

AND IF YOU USE ONE PASS THAT YOU'RE OPENING YOURSELF UP TO LIABILITY.

PROBABLY NOTHING WOULD EVER HAPPEN. SURE. BUT I GUESS THE REASON I'M ASKING IS INCIDENTALLY, OR STRANGELY ENOUGH, BECAUSE OF FOOTBALL OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THOUSANDS OF PARENTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE BEEN SENDING IN THEIR HELMETS BECAUSE IF THEY GET THEIR KID A SPECIAL HELMET, YOU HAVE TO SEND IT IN EVERY TWO YEARS FOR RECERTIFICATION, WHERE THEY DO SOME TYPE OF STRESS TESTING ON THE HELMET TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL SUFFICIENT TO PROTECT THE CHILD'S HEAD.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE ON THIS TYPE OF THING, OR.

I MEAN, THIS IS A LEVEL OF SERIOUSNESS THAT I WOULD IMAGINE IS ABOVE ITS SHELF LIFE IN USED BY END DATE AND THAT.

AND THAT'S IT. AND I'M SURE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE GOOD UNLESS IT'S BEEN HEAVILY SWEATED THROUGH.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY TO DEGRADE THEM. SOMETIMES SUN AND HEAT, BUT IT'S USUALLY THE SWEAT.

OKAY. WHICH HAPPENS A LOT. YEAH. OKAY. SO CONSTABLE TWO IS ASKING FOR TWO BALLISTIC SHIELDS AT $3,750 EACH FOR $7,500. THEY'RE REQUESTING A TAHOE FOR 61, 150.

AND THEN THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT IS 29. 286 ON VEHICLES.

I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THESE REPLACING LIKE, DO WE HAVE LIKE MILEAGE? LIKE WHAT ARE THEY REPLACING? OR IS THIS CONTINGENT? I KNOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. IS THAT YEAH, NO, THAT'S NOT A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST.

THAT'S JUST IN THEIR REGULAR BUDGET. SO I'M GUESSING THEY ARE REPLACING SOMETHING OR FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THAT WHAT'S IN CURRENT USAGE BY THEIR EMPLOYEES WOULD PUSH DOWN TO RESERVE PERSONNEL.

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I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT OVERSEES THESE VEHICLES SUCH THAT FOR MAINTENANCE, WELL, MORE SO ABOUT REPLACEMENT BECAUSE IT'S UP TO THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO. WELL, SEE, THAT TO ME IS, IS PART OF OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE WE I MEAN, I HAVE NO IDEA, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE I WANT A NEW VEHICLE. YEAH. THAT'S NICE.

SO TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THESE VEHICLES, THEY RUN THE WHEELS OFF OF THEM.

THE PRECINCTS TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES. THEY'LL THEY'LL DRIVE THEM TO THEIR CLOSE TO 200,000 MILES IN SOME INSTANCES.

AND DO THEY DO IT? I'M SURE THEY'RE ON THE ROAD A LOT TO HOUSE AND GROUNDS DO IT.

I'M SURE THAT THERE. WE DON'T. YEAH. THEY'RE PROBABLY CLOSE TO OVER 150.

I'M GUESSING I CAN FIND OUT. SO I KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF SHARING OF VEHICLES AT BUILDING GROUNDS TO AS WELL.

WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A MASTER MECHANIC WHO HAS THE INVENTORY OF EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT'S VEHICLES WITH A RUNNING SCHEDULE INSTEAD.

THAT'S KIND OF SUBDIVIDED. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF YOU GO TO THE PRECINCT TWO OFFICE AND YOU SAY, HEY, WHEN HAVE THE BRAKE PADS BEEN CHANGED ON UNIT 204? WE HAVE A LIST IN OUR SYSTEM. WE DO IT THROUGH I WORK THAT TRACKS ALL OF THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE THAT'S DONE TO EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHETHER IT'S AN OIL CHANGE, FILTER CHANGE, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THEN IT OBVIOUSLY TRACKS THE MILEAGE AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

I BELIEVE THE OTHER PRECINCTS DO THE SAME THING.

I'M LESS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE ESSO DOES OR WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DOES, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THEY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR PROTOCOL.

WHAT MIGHT KIND OF GET AT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IF WE HAD SOME TYPE OF KIND OF STANDARD PURCHASING POLICY ON OR REPLACEMENT POLICY, I GUESS, WHERE WE DON'T REPLACE EQUIPMENT VEHICLES UNTIL THEY'VE REACHED X MILEAGE OR X YEARS. THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO VARY JUST A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE USE OF THE VEHICLE IS.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OLD TRUCKS THAT ARE USED BY MY LADIES IN THE OFFICE.

IF THEY NEED TO DRIVE TO SPRINGTOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO HOP IN THAT OLD PICKUP TRUCK AND DRIVE UP THERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE HAVE A DEPUTY WHO HAS TO GET TO AN EMERGENCY IMMEDIATELY, I WOULD PERSONALLY WANT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE TO HAVE MORE STRICT STANDARDS ON WHEN IT'S REPLACED, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE URGENT.

SURE, SURE. IS THAT DOES THAT ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT AT ALL? YEAH. I MY MAIN THING IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY DEPARTMENT HEADS, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND THEY SHOULD PROBABLY, BUT I GUESS AGAIN, THAT VEHICLE COULD AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE TRANSFERRED OR SOMETHING ELSE TO A LOWER USE AREA. AND WE, WE DO DO THAT. THESE VEHICLES, IF THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO USE THEM IN THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENT, THEY TRANSFER THEM TO SURPLUS.

AND THEN WE SEND OUT AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN THIS VEHICLE BEFORE IT GOES TO AUCTION YOU CAN, WE CAN TAKE IT TO COURT, AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CAN AUTHORIZE IT TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN KIND OF HIT ON LAST YEAR WAS THIS IDEA OF WHEN WE TRANSFER VEHICLES, THAT ACTUALLY BECOMES A COURT DECISION SO THAT WE DO HAVE THAT EXTRA LAYER OF TOUCH ON WHERE DOES THE VEHICLE GOING, YOU KNOW, IS THAT TRANSFER WARRANTED SO THAT A DEPARTMENT OVER HERE THAT DOESN'T REALLY NEED IT ISN'T GETTING VEHICLES THAT ARE REALLY NEEDED BY SOMEONE ELSE.

WELL, AND THE THING IS, I AGREE WITH EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT I MEAN, THAT ARE OF NO VALUE.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE RUN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE EITHER RUN, RUN THE WHEELS OFF OF THEM LIKE YOU SAY, OR YOU GOT A LEMON AND YOU CAN GET A LEMON IN A BRAND NEW ONE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THOSE RECENTLY CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THAT NEEDS TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, VERY APPARENT. BUT THE, THE MAIN THING I GUESS I WANT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD USE.

ANYTIME WE HAVE A VEHICLE IN THE COUNTY THAT IT'S BEING WATCHED AFTER FROM THE ASPECT OF IT.

SO A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS USE PRECINCT ONE'S MECHANIC AND THEY HAVE THE I WORKS PROGRAM TOO, AND THEY KEEP A RECORD OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH ON THE VEHICLES.

WE, WE ENCOURAGE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO UTILIZE PRECINCT ONE FOR ALL CHANGES AND UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE RATHER THAN GOING TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE VENDORS HERE IN TOWN BECAUSE OF THOSE RECORDS.

BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT PRECINCT ONE IS ONLY ONE MECHANIC.

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AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALONE HAS A LONG WAITING LIST JUST TO GET THEIR VEHICLES IN FOR MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH.

SO SOME OF US HAVE TO USE OTHER SOURCES FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT WE CAN ALSO THAT THAT DEPARTMENT CAN REACH OUT TO THAT VENDOR AND GET THE INFORMATION AS WELL. THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE IN THEIR WORKBOOK.

IT SAYS TO REPLACE A HIGH MILEAGE VEHICLE WITH MECHANICAL ISSUES.

WOULD IT EVER MAKE SENSE, MAYBE TO HAVE A MECHANIC WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL NON PRECINCT VEHICLES? THEY USED TO DO THAT BACK IN THE DAY. IN FACT YOUR PREDECESSOR WAS THE COUNTY MECHANIC ON BETHEL.

THEY HAD A WHEN HE WAS WORKING DOWN. YEAH. YES.

BEFORE HE WENT TO THE. IT'S JUST I MEAN I THINK US ALONE WE PROBABLY HAVE 90 TO 100 VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET.

IT WOULD BE VERY CUMBERSOME UNLESS YOU HAD A BUNCH OF MECHANICS.

THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A LOT. BUT I THINK BACK TO, I THINK BECKY'S ORIGINAL QUESTION, I THINK ANYBODY REQUESTING A VEHICLE SHOULD SEND A LIST OF ALL THE VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR FLEET MILEAGE.

WHO IT'S ASSIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, YEAR, JUST KIND OF THE STANDARDS, WHICH THEY PROBABLY HAVE THOSE RECORDS AND WHICH ONE THEY INTEND ON REPLACING.

BUT THEN BACK TO YOUR POINT, WE MAY INTEND ON REPLACING ONE AND THEN THEN A LEMON COMES UP AND THAT ONE GETS BUMPED, AND WE MAY REPLACE ONE WITH FEW LESS MILES AND NEWER, MORE MECHANICAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST.

MAYBE IT WAS PUT TOGETHER ON MONDAY, A HANGOVER MONDAY INSTEAD OF ON A WEDNESDAY OR SOMETHING, OR IT WAS JUST A BAD CAR OR MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, TAKES A VEHICLE OUT OF THE FLEET AND STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPENS A LOT.

BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR OUR LIKE OUR FLEET, OUR PATROL FLEET, AND MAYBE WHEN THEY START GETTING MORE MILES, WE'LL PASS THEM DOWN TO THE SROS OR MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM GETTING INTO A PURSUIT OR LESS, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY AND WE WORK THEM DOWN. AND LIKE KIM SAID, WHEN WE TURN THEM IN SOMETIMES BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS WILL GET THEM.

SOMETIMES THE COMMISSIONERS WILL GET THEM. SO THERE STILL MIGHT BE SOME USE, BUT MAYBE NOT PURSUIT MILEAGE USAGE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, METAL FATIGUE WHEN YOU'RE GOING 140 COULD COME INTO PLAY AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT.

SURE, SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT. I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY TIME WE GET A VEHICLE REQUEST, WHICHEVER ONE THEY'RE INTENDING. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN CHANGE FROM BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING IN REQUESTS IN FEBRUARY TO THE FOLLOWING OCTOBER WHEN THEY ACTUALLY GET TO WHERE THEY'RE REPLACING VEHICLES.

BUT IF THEY HAVE ONE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEY SAY HIGH MILEAGE, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE HIGH MILEAGE CAN MEAN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. OBVIOUSLY MECHANICAL PROBLEMS. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD.

AND THERE'S NO SENSE DOING THAT IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST FOR BUDGETS IN THE FUTURE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THIS, IS TO GIVE US THE MILEAGE INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND I LOVE THE SHERIFF'S IDEA OF TELLING US WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR FLEET AND WHO IT'S ASSIGNED TO, WHAT IT'S USED FOR, JUST, I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN GET.

I MEAN, LET'S NOT PUSH IT OFF TO NEXT YEAR. WE'RE WE HAVE UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND IF WE HAVE TO MEET AGAIN AFTER THE SEVENTH AGAIN, LET'S NOT PRETEND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING COURT UP IF WE'RE NOT DONE BY THE SEVENTH. SO IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO ASK OF ANYONE WHO'S REQUESTING A NEW VEHICLE, PLEASE PROVIDE.

THEY SHOULD HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE.

IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO ASK THAT, I'M HAPPY TO. I LIKE TO BE GOOD, HONESTLY.

OKAY. SO BASICALLY CURRENT INVENTORY LIST OF VEHICLES YEAR MAKE MODEL WHO IT'S ASSIGNED TO.

MILEAGE MILEAGE AND THEN PRIMARY USE. AND AND IF IT'S NOT A NEW ONE.

WHAT YEAR, WHICH ONE YOU'RE THINKING YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, KNOWING YOU'RE NOT COMMITTED TO THAT. THEY PUT THAT IN THE, THERE IS ON THE WORKBOOK A SPOT FOR THEM TO PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS, WERE, ARE PEOPLE NOT FILLING THAT OUT? YEAH. OH, OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU ONE OTHER THING TOO? THERE WAS THREE DIFFERENT REQUESTS FOR TAHOES AND THEY'RE ONE AT 61, 150, SOME AT 58, 150 AND SOME AT 52, 995. EACH DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, YOU KIND OF GET THOSE BIDS, DO YOU? WELL, I REQUEST BIDS FOR. FOR THE POLICE PACKAGE TAHOE, I, I REQUEST BIDS FOR A TWO TWO WHEEL DRIVE. FOUR WHEEL DRIVE. THAT'S NOT POLICE PACKAGE LIKE FOR TRANSPORT AND SO FORTH.

BUT THERE ARE THE CONSTABLES LIKE TO GO AND GET THEIR OWN QUOTES.

I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I MEAN, BECAUSE AS I DRIVE AROUND AND I SEE DIFFERENT VEHICLES FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I'M LIKE, WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED TO JUST OUR STANDARD COUNTY TAHOE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, I'M LIKE, WHY DO YOU NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS? I MEAN, TO ME, THEY'RE NOT. I MEAN, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT LIKE ASK, I MEAN, IF IT'S A THREE QUARTER TON,

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IT'S NOT FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, IT'S NOT OKAY, BUT ALMOST $50,000.

I MEAN, I'M LIKE, THEY'RE NOT OUT DRIVING. WELL, BUT THEY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PUT THOSE BIG UTILITY BODIES ON THEM.

OKAY. AND THEY'RE A LONGER PIECE, SO THEY TYPICALLY GET A LONGER BED.

OKAY. OR WHATEVER. AND THEN THEY'RE PULLING, YOU KNOW, LAWN EQUIPMENT AND, BUT I MEAN, I AGREE, I THINK I'VE ALWAYS, AND I'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WONDERED THAT I'M LIKE, HOW COME THIS TAHOE COST THIS MUCH AND THIS IS THIS MUCH AND THIS OUTFITTING IS THIS AND THIS OUTFITTING IS THAT.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT AS WE'RE REPLACING A VEHICLE, ALL THE MONEY, THE OUTFITTING, IS THAT NOT ABLE TO BE TAKEN OFF TO PUT ON.

GENERALLY NOT GENERALLY NOT. OKAY. I GET HIS BODY STYLES CHANGE.

THEY DO CHANGE. AND THEN YES. AND SOMETIMES IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO TAKE ONE OUT OF THE OLD AND PUT.

GOTCHA. WE DO THE CAMERAS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE REUSE.

OKAY. AND SO RADIOS. BUT OKAY. BUT DO YOU KNOW IF ONE OF THESE WAS A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE FOR CONSTABLE TWO AT 61, 150. I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD EVEN WANT TO.

ARE WE. THE COUNTY WOULD WANT A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TAHOE AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESSES.

THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED. SHE CALLS 24 OVER SEVEN AND ALL KINDS OF WEATHER. AND OUR PATROL FLEET IS TWO WHEEL DRIVE.

YEAH. NOW WE HAVE SNOW CHAINS OR ICE CHAINS. YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT.

BUT I KNOW WHEN THE INCLEMENT WEATHER COMES, MOST PEOPLE SHUT DOWN.

SO I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SERVING PAPERS OR ANYTHING WHEN WHEN THE WEATHER'S BAD.

I'M REACHING HERE, BUT THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK IS IF.

IF HE'S TRYING TO SERVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL. AND HE'S GOT TO DRIVE ON SOME RANCH ROADS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN, I'M REACHING. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND. WELL, AND I AND I'LL GO BACK TO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL.

I MEAN, THEY GO DOWN A LOT OF ROUGH ROADS AND THEY'RE IN TWO WHEEL DRIVES. YEAH. SO THE ODDS OF USING FOUR WHEEL DRIVE NEEDING IT ARE ONCE, MAYBE ONCE A YEAR, AND YOU PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO NEED IT VERY LONG NOW.

NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL IN OUR CID FLEET, BUT THOSE ARE BOUGHT WITH SEIZED ASSET FUNDS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO TO SOME CRIME SCENES THAT ARE PRETTY REMOTE.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T COUNTY FUNDS. I THINK WE HAD TO GET ONE ONE YEAR AFTER COVID BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.

BUT AGAIN, THE THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES, THEY COST A LOT MORE MONEY.

THEY'RE NOT AS FUEL EFFICIENT. SO THAT'S WHY WE TEND TO STICK WITH THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE.

AND I KNOW THERE WAS THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I MEAN, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, LUCKY TO GET WHAT YOU GOT.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IT LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT WHAT THIS VEHICLE LOOKS LIKE TO THIS VEHICLE.

BUT STILL, SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, CAN IT BE LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WITH KIM'S QUOTES, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET. SO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET $50,000 FOR A VEHICLE.

INSTEAD OF JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE. I WOULD THINK IF WE COULD DO THAT, IF YOU NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, COME AND JUSTIFY WHY YOU THINK YOU NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.

SO I'VE GOT THAT. I'VE GOT THE QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO SEND THE QUESTION TO EVERYBODY OF THE.

PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR INVENTORY LIST OF YOUR VEHICLES, PLEASE SPECIFY WHICH ONE IS GETTING REPLACED, MILEAGE, DRIVER PURPOSE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT THEN I'VE ALSO GOT THIS AS WHY DO YOU NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SPECIFIC TO THIS DEPARTMENT? IF THEY ARE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A. ON THERE ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

LIKE WHAT SPECIFIC NEEDS FOR THE TYPE OF VEHICLE YOU HAVE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAD SOME LEGITIMATE ONES LIKE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GETTING YOU HAVE ONE TAHOE OR WHATEVER.

LET'S SAY IT'S, IT'S TOWING LAWN EQUIPMENT. TRANSPORT DOESN'T NEED A TOW HITCH ATTACHMENT.

THOSE THINGS COST SOME MONEY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE HOW TRANSPORT WOULD NEED THAT.

BUT, BUT THEY MAY TO TOW OTHER STUFF FOR ONE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT SETUP WITH A DIFFERENT COST.

SO THE TAHOES AREN'T TYPICALLY PURCHASED BUT FOR ANYBODY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THE REST OF THEM. YEAH. BUT SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES COME STANDARD WITH A TOW PACKAGE.

THE PACKAGES ARE STANDARD. YEAH. I'M JUST SAYING THE NEEDS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

AND SO IF THEY COULD TELL US WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC NEED IS WITH THIS VEHICLE VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL INFORMATION.

AND I CHECKED HIS SUBMISSION FOR BUDGET. HE DID NOT INCLUDE THE QUOTES FOR THE VEHICLE.

AND I MIGHT JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. WE'RE ABOUT TO GET TO IT.

BUT WHEN THEY ASKED SPECIFICALLY FOR A KIND OF VEHICLE LIKE A SILVERADO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I. THAT DOESN'T BUY ANYTHING FOR ME. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MOST ECONOMICAL VEHICLE FOR THE SITUATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET A SILVERADO DOESN'T MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLE MAY YOU MAY NEED A VEHICLE, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

I MEAN, JUST THE NAME. SO NO, I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE YOU SHOULD TAKE CONTROL OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BIDDING AND ALL OF THIS KIND OF STUFF.

SO AT THAT POINT WE GET TO THAT IF THERE'S A BUDGET ADOPTED, THEN WE GET BIDS OR SO WHATEVER THE

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ITEM IS, OTTOMANS CAPITAL ITEM IS IT GOES THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS AT THE POINT THERE'S BUDGET APPROVED AND THESE ARE ESTIMATES.

DIDN'T YOUR OFFICE SEND US OUT? LIKE IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BUDGET. IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BUDGET. SOMETHING LIKE, I THOUGHT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT IN THE PAST THAT YOU GET FOR VEHICLES.

YEAH. YES, I SEND OUT I SEND OUT CHEVROLET FORD DODGE PICKUP SUV, YES.

HALF TON. I SEND OUT ALL THESE QUOTES AND THEN AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE.

AND THERE MIGHT BE A DEPARTMENT THAT WILL ONLY USE FORDS AND THEY'LL ONLY CHEVROLETS HERE.

IT'S IT'S I JUST THINK SOMETIMES IT GETS IT'S LIKE, BUT WE'RE A COUNTY OWNED VEHICLE.

NOT ALWAYS. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A BUILDING, IT'S NOT A CUSTOM BUILD FOR THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS, RIGHT? IT'S HERE'S YOUR. I MEAN, COURT ALLOWS ME THE SPACE I WORK IN.

YEAH. BACK TO POLICY OF COURT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE, WHICH IS NOT ONE. PERSONAL LIFE. YOU DON'T GET TO BE BRAND SPECIFIC IN YOUR WORK, RIGHT? LIKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY. YEAH, YEAH.

YOU HAVE A THEN IT LOOKS LIKE FEDERAL TIMES, WHICH I HAD A GREEN PICKUP AND THEY ACTUALLY TOOK THE AIR CONDITIONERS OUT OF THEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT HAPPENS. IT'S ROUGH.

I THINK THERE CAN BE VALUE SOMETIMES IN NOT NECESSARILY BRAND LOYALTY, BUT IF YOU HAVE A MECHANIC WHO'S WORKING ON CHEVYS ALL DAY AND ANOTHER CHEVY COMES IN LIKE FOR, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AT THE PRECINCT BARN, WE TRY TO BUY THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE EACH TIME.

YEAH. JUST BECAUSE THEN ONCE YOU LEARN THAT PARTICULAR ENGINE, YOU CAN TROUBLESHOOT PROBLEMS A LOT FASTER, THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT IN SOME CASES TO BE MADE FOR THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT'S GOING TO BE OUR LITTLE PICKUP FOR SOMEONE TO RUN TO A DIFFERENT ANNEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHO CARES? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S DIFFERENT.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE DEPUTIES, A TAHOE HAS SEEMED TO BE A LOT MORE DURABLE THAN THE FORD.

THAT DON'T LAST VERY LONG. THE DURANGO. DURANGO ARE THEY'RE CRAP.

YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH THE VEHICLE AND HOW MUCH TROUBLE THAT THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE THINGS AS WELL.

WELL, AND I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE WONDERING IF THEY'RE LISTENING TO THIS.

WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME. THIS IS PROBABLY YOUR BIGGEST EXPENDITURES.

ABSOLUTELY. THESE ARE THE BIGGEST ASKS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE ASPECT OF THE SITE BEYOND PERSONNEL.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR VEHICLE SITUATION.

I THINK IT'S GREAT. AND IN A BASIC PACKAGE CHEVROLET, THEY'RE PRETTY NICE.

I MEAN, JUST THE DEALERS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PUT TOGETHER, THEY DON'T PUT DOWN, STRIP DOWN, NO AIR CONDITIONER, GRAY TRUCKS ANYMORE. WELL, WE DON'T WANT THAT.

I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU CAN FIND THOSE VEHICLES.

I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE SPECIAL ORDERS. THEY ARE SPECIAL ORDER AND WOULD SO SO A STANDARD PICKUP IS I MEAN, THEY USUALLY HAVE POWER SEATS, ELECTRIC WINDOWS. I MEAN THEY'RE NICE. THEY'RE REALLY NICE. AND YEAH, WHETHER IT'S A FORD CHEVROLET OR DODGE. CAMERA SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

BUT I GET THE POINT. I KNOW, I KNOW JAKE, THE MECHANIC UP THERE, HE LIKES WORKING ON CHEVROLETS AND HE CAN TELL YOU OVER THE PHONE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? HE'S THAT GOOD. I WILL SAY TO THESE THESE FIRST DEPARTMENTS ON THESE ON THE BUDGET, THEY JUST HAVE THE DISADVANTAGE OF BEING FIRST.

THESE WERE THESE WERE DISCUSSIONS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE NO MATTER WHO WAS UP FIRST. WE'RE NOT PICKING ON, YOU KNOW, JP TWO OR CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO OR, OR WHOEVER.

THEY JUST ARE. FIRST UP, THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR.

WE'LL START AT THE BOTTOM AND GO UP. YEAH. YEAH.

JUST FOR FAIRNESS. YEAH. I DID GET A MESSAGE TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO PLEASE TALK IN YOUR MICROPHONE.

SO FROM WHAT I GOT A TEXT SAYING, PLEASE TALK INTO YOUR MICROPHONES.

OH, OKAY. FOR ME TO REMIND EVERYONE, NOT NOT ME BECAUSE I'M TOO LOUD, BUT TELLS ME TO STOP TALKING SO LOUD.

BUT ALSO BACK TO THAT KIND OF THE OUTFITTING OF VEHICLES TO THERE'S ALWAYS A HUGE VARIANCE ON THE OUTFITTING.

AND SOMETIMES YOU WONDER WHY. I MEAN, WELL, YEAH.

AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF ALWAYS A QUESTION SITTING BACK THERE AND LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION, I'M LIKE, BUT I MEAN, THE JOB DUTIES OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. YEAH.

BUT IF IT'S A PPV, A POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLE, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HEAR HER SAY THAT'S WHAT PPV IS.

I MEAN, WE OURS ARE MARKED OVERHEADS, LIGHTS, SIRENS, YOU KNOW, CAGE PUSH BUMPER CAGES, PRETTY STANDARD.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER THE CONSTABLES ARE DOING KIND OF THE SAME THING.

IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE VARIANCES, BUT MONEY WISE.

BUT SOUNDS LIKE SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, RIGHT? FOR, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE TWO CONSTABLES OFFICE HERE, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE SPECIAL LIKE STORAGE IN THE BACK FOR THEIR DRONES THAT THEY USE

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FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CASES AS WELL. SO THAT THAT WOULD EXPLAIN TO SURE WHY THEY'RE OUTFITTING MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE THAN A TYPICAL DEPUTIES. SO KIND OF LIKE A COMMAND UNIT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MOBILE COMMAND.

YES. AND WE AND WE TRY TO YEAH, SPELL THAT OUT.

SPELL THAT OUT. YEAH. SO OKAY. OKAY. SO CONSTABLE TWO IS ALSO ASKING FOR EIGHT GLOCK 19 NINE MILLIMETER, MILLIMETER PISTOLS FOR A TOTAL OF 4002, 68.

AND I BELIEVE HE DID SPEAK ABOUT THE THE NEW STATUTE ON REQUIRING A DEPARTMENT PURCHASE.

IT SAYS THERE'S CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT MUST KIND OF BE AVAILABLE.

AND MY TAKE ON THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTY OUTFIT, ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITH LONG GUNS.

BUT AS FAR AS THAT, I THINK WE, WE THEY GET A UNIFORM ALLOWANCE.

MY TAKE ON IT, I'LL JUST SAY IN OPEN COURT, AND I THINK THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT ON THAT UNIFORM THAN A SIDEARM.

SO I'M GOING TO GUESS THEY CAN USE PART OF THAT UNIFORM ALLOWANCE AND BUY THEIR OWN SIDEARM.

DO WE PURCHASE SIDEARMS FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPUTIES? WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT. OKAY. WE FURNISHED THEM LONG GUNS, LONG GUNS, GUNS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WAS A DEPARTMENT THAT WAS REQUESTING A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO PURCHASE GUNS.

AND SO I IF IT DOES GET SUBMITTED, I'LL BRING IT BEFORE THE COURT BECAUSE WE'VE NOT OR SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND I HAD EVEN ASKED HIM IF WE HAVE PURCHASED GUNS.

THE ONLY GUNS WE'VE PURCHASED IS WITH THE AUCTION PROCEEDS FROM GUNS THAT WE'VE THEN CERTIFIED.

AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS REPLACED. WE BUY LONG GUNS AND WE ISSUE THEM. OUR PEOPLE. NOW WE HAVE BOUGHT, I THINK, A SNIPER RIFLE FOR FOR OUR COUNTER.

THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING, THOUGH. BUT AS FAR AS STANDARD SIDEARMS ARE STANDARD, WE DON'T ON SIDEARMS, BUT LONG GUNS WE WOULD LOVE. MOST OF OUR GUYS HAVE LONG GUNS.

I SAY LONG GUNS LIKE AN AR STYLE M4. SO AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE OF THOSE.

AND AND ACTUALLY, WELL, I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS ONCE, I THINK WITH THIS FUND, YOU KNOW, WHERE POSSIBLY WE CAN GET ALL THESE MONIES TOGETHER IN OUR FUND, WE COULD MAYBE ALSO OUTFIT THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES AND MAYBE THE FIRE MARSHALS AND ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE COUNTY, POSSIBLY WITH THE LONG GUN.

SO CAN YOU TELL US, THOUGH, SHERIFF, WITH THE KIND OF INDUSTRY WIDE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I KNOW THERE PROBABLY ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT DO PURCHASE GUNS FOR THEIR OFFICERS.

WHAT'S KIND OF THE HOW COMMON IS THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW.

I THINK IN THE LARGER AGENCIES IT'S PRETTY COMMON.

SOME OTHER AGENCIES MAY GIVE THEM AN ALLOWANCE SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO PURCHASE THIS.

HERE'S SOME MONEY. THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU HAVE AN ALLOWANCE.

YOU GET ONE OF THESE FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WEAPONS.

SO I KNOW I WAS FORMER DPS. DPS HAS ISSUED SIDEARMS. OKAY. SO BUT IT'S A BIG OUTFIT. YES. AND THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF PROS AND CONS TO THAT.

SO PART OF IT'S AMMUNITION WISE, YOU KNOW, BUY AMMUNITION HAVE, HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, READILY AVAILABLE SWAPPING MAGAZINES.

IF SOMETHING BAD GOES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE TYPE AND IT'S JUST THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS, BUT I IT'S JUST MY OPINION. I WANT SOMEBODY TO CARRY A WEAPON THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, NOT ONE THAT THEY'RE FORCED TO HAVE. SO I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S PROS AND CONS, BUT TO ME THAT THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST PART OF THAT. SO WOULD THIS BE THE FIRST DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S THAT WOULD IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT WOULD HAVE COUNTY ISSUED FIREARMS SIDEARMS. YES. YES. YES. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT, THOUGH.

IF THIS WAS APPROVED FOR THEM, THAT IT SHOULD JUST BE APPROVED ACROSS THE BOARD.

RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE GUNS BE INVENTORIED? WOULD IT BE. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OH YEAH. FOR SURE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THEN IT'D BE REGISTERED ALL IN THE COUNTY'S NAME.

AND THAT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION FOR FOR COURT.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GOING TO BECOME STANDARD WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD? IS IT MONEY THAT THE MONIES THAT SHERIFF IS DISCUSSING COULD BE UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, TO BUY AS WELL. SO AGREED. COURT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SET A POLICY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COURT WILL AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS BODY, BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

ON THE YOU MEAN ON THE GLOBAL ISSUE OF DO WE WANT TO DO THIS COUNTYWIDE? THIS IS YEAH, THIS IS MORE THAN A CONSTABLE TWO DECISION, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE MOMENT WE SAY YES TO THIS.

YES, THERE'S GOING TO BE TEN DIFFERENT MODIFIED BUDGET REQUESTS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'M VERY HESITANT TO SAY YES TO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO THEN IMMEDIATELY HAVE

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A RIPPLE EFFECT ON ITS OWN. SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT IS IF, IF WE SAY YES TO THIS, HE'S GOING TO HAVE A TON OF REQUESTS IMMEDIATELY.

NO I WON'T. WELL. FAIR. YOU MIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH.

FAIR. THAT BEING SAID. PERSONALLY, WHERE I STAND ON THIS AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT I HAVE JUST AN INCREDIBLY FIRM OPINION, BUT TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PURCHASES THEIR OWN SO THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY TRUST THAT FITS THEM, THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. WE DON'T HAVE TO INVENTORY IT.

THERE'S NO ISSUES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY TAKE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

LIKE IF WE HAVE A COUNTY ISSUE FIREARM, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO TAKE THAT FIREARM WHEN THEY'RE JUST WALKING AROUND IN CONCEALED CARRY? SO IF THEY GO TO THE A RESTAURANT WITH THEIR FAMILY AND THEY LIKE TO CONCEAL CARRY, CAN THEY CONCEAL CARRY WITH A COUNTY ISSUED FIREARM, I WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. PERSONALLY.

I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD CREATE SOME ISSUES, AT LEAST SOMETHING WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

SO TO ME, I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL WEAPON VERSUS.

ISSUING THEIR OWN. I PROBABLY COULD GET TALKED INTO SOME TYPE OF LIKE EVERY THREE YEARS, YOU GET A X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO GO TO FUNDING THAT. AND THEN IT'S YOUR WEAPON THAT YOU OWN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, CORRECT? KIND OF THING. I THINK THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD WAY OF HANDLING THAT.

IT IS, IT DOES MEAN A NEW PILE OF MONEY THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS TO COME UP WITH, BUT ESPECIALLY IF IT'S FOR EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT A BAD IDEA. WELL, THEY GET A UNIFORM ALLOWANCE SO THEY COULD POSSIBLY UP THAT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I WOULD SAY INSTEAD OF THEM TRACKING EVERY THREE YEARS, THERE'D BE A SMALL BUMP TO UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, SMALL BUMP TO UNIFORM ALLOWANCE. AND THAT WAY IT KIND OF COVERS THAT.

AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT. I'M SAYING THAT'S AS FAR AS I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE GOING.

BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE STATUTE GOES, I THINK I THINK THE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE WOULD WOULD WOULD COVER THAT ALLOWANCE.

YEAH. THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT. SO IT JUST FOR ME, IT'S THINKING OF WE HAVE SOME PRECINCTS THAT HAVE A BOOT ALLOWANCE IN THEIR BUDGETS, BUT THEY REQUIRE THE EMPLOYEE TO BRING BACK THE RECEIPT TO SHOW THAT THEY DID BUY BOOTS LIKE STEEL TOED BOOTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THEY'RE GIVEN A ONE TIME PAYMENT THROUGH PAYROLL.

ONCE THAT'S DONE. SO THAT'S BECAUSE IT MAKES IT HARD WHEN YOU'VE GOT A UNIFORM ALLOWANCE THAT'S SPREAD OUT OVER 26 PAY PERIODS.

IT'S HARD. YEAH. TO WEAR THAT. I MEAN, IT IS IT'S THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION, SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER, PROVIDE THE RECEIPT AND THEN THEY KNOW. OKAY.

YES. THEY USE THE MONEY. THEY WENT OUT, PURCHASED THIS THING SPECIFICALLY FOR WORK.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE THEM. I THINK IT COULD WORK. SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. AND ALSO IT'S A SET DOLLAR AMOUNT.

IT'S NOT THIS ONE THAT COSTS 500. I WANT THIS ONE THAT COSTS 1000.

IT'S LIKE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. OKAY.

DOES THIS COURT OR DOES THIS BODY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THEN? BECAUSE WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

SORRY. I JUST ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY THAT. OH GOODNESS GRACIOUS. WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO IS TELL COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WHAT THIS BODY IS SUPPOSED TO IS PURCHASING INDIVIDUAL FIREARMS FOR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT SIDEARMS FOR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS, BUT KIND OF TENTATIVE ON THE IDEA OF INCLUDING IT INTO THE UNIFORM.

JUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW WE PROCEED ON THAT.

IS THAT A FAIR RECOMMENDATION? I WOULD I WOULD THINK SO, YES.

ALL RIGHT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL EXPLORE THE LONG GUNS THOUGH.

THE ISSUANCE OF THE LONG GUNS TO ALL PEACE OFFICERS.

I MEAN, YEAH, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.

WELL, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. WELL, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHEN WHEN YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED IT. SO I THINK MOST COPS, THEY HAVE A SIDEARM.

I MEAN I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THEY DO. AND HERE'S AND HERE'S THE CODE. I CAN READ IT TO YOU AS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE UNDER PUBLIC CALL, AND FOR AGENCY TO HAVE PHYSICAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO OFFICERS, INCLUDING AN AYE.

THIS FIRST ONE AT LEAST ONE FIREARM PER OFFICER ON DUTY.

SO DOES THAT SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO BUY ONE AND ISSUE ONE? EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE FIREARM PER OFFICER ON DUTY.

AND I THINK IF THEY HAVE UNDER THE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE I THINK THAT WOULD COVER THAT.

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BUT AGAIN, A LONG WEAPON, PREDOMINANTLY AN M4, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE, WOULD BE AWESOME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW IMPORTANT OF A TOOL IT IS.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING MORE WITH THE 287 G MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO NOT END UP WITH SOME SURPLUS ONES.

WE WILL. AND I THINK WE CAN PASS THOSE ON TO OTHER AGENCIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO MODIFYING THAT RECOMMENDATION THEN TO COURT BEING EXPLORE GETTING A LONG GUN TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL COMMISSION FOR ALL COMMISSION PEACE OFFICERS. YES. LEAVE THE SIDEARMS ALONE, BUT POTENTIALLY COVER IT.

BE A UNIFORM. THAT WOULD BE MINE. BUT. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOLKS THAT MAYBE MAYBE PUTTING A LOCK BOX SOMEWHERE, LET'S JUST SAY IN THIS BUILDING WHERE THEY COULD STORE A LONG GUN.

YEAH. AND THEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OUR SROS WE BOUGHT SOME SMALL CUT DOWN AR PLATFORMS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO FOR THEM WITH, WITH BOXES THERE AT THE CAMPUSES.

SO IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, EVERY COP OUT HERE HAS A SIDEARM.

OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON. SORRY. WE'RE ON PAGE ONE.

STILL, CONSTABLE TWO IS ALSO REQUESTING TWO MOTOROLA 88,000 RADIOS FOR $18,000.

AND TO ME, THAT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE THE VEHICLES IS JUST REPLACING AN OLD 1500.

IS THIS FOR A NEW EMPLOYEE OR IS THIS JUST IT'S NOT A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST? AND THEN HOW MANY RADIOS DOES THAT, THAT OUTFIT HAVE THIS, THAT OFFICE HAVE AND WHO THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO? SO JUST, JUST LIKE THE VEHICLES, BECAUSE THESE ARE 8000 RADIOS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

WELL, AND I GUESS FOR ME, I ALWAYS GO BACK TO LIKE THE WHOLE ARPA RADIO PROJECT.

DID NOT EVERYBODY GET RADIOS WITH THAT? I KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE NO THERE WASN'T.

OKAY. SO WITH EACH NEW EMPLOYEES. OKAY. YEAH.

I THINK THE BULK OF THAT FUNDS WAS ON THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS INDIVIDUAL RADIOS.

OKAY. YES, IT IT SEEMS INSANE, BUT THOSE LITTLE RADIOS GENUINELY DO COST.

YES. NO. 9 TO 10 GRAND. YEAH. NOW, WHAT WE DID AT PRECINCT TWO IS WE GOT RAPID RADIOS, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEM. IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR CONSTABLES BECAUSE THE RELIABILITY IS NOT.

YOU GOT TO BE DISPATCHED. YEAH. IT'S IT'S NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME.

LIKE IF MY GUYS CAN'T HEAR EACH OTHER OVER RAPID RADIO, IT'S.

OH, I'LL DRIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE SO YOU CAN HEAR ME. OKAY.

BUT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS THE RADIO. IT'S JUST.

WHAT ARE THEY? IS IT A NEW ONE? REPLACING ONE OR OR NEW? IF IT'S A NEW EMPLOYEE AND THEN THAT EMPLOYEE DOESN'T GET, YOU KNOW, APPROVED, THEN THEY DON'T NEED THAT RADIO.

THIS IS NOT A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST. THIS IS A REGULAR CAPITAL.

AND I GUESS I WOULD JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. THAT'S FOR FULL TIME CONSTABLE DEPUTY CONSTABLES RATHER THAN RESERVES.

I DON'T I DON'T I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE RESERVES WOULD BE USING I DON'T KNOW HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS FOR US.

OUR RESERVES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY'RE THEIR OWN 501 C THREE.

THEY BUY A LOT OF THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT. OKAY. BUT IT'S VERY UNIQUE.

WOULD YOU THINK A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A RADIO THAT THEY HAVE FULL TIME? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FULL TIME, BUT WHEN THEY'RE WORKING THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE ONE TO CHECK OUT FOR SURE. YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I THINK A LOT OF THEM WOULD DO IT. THEY'D HAVE MAYBE SOME OF THE OFFICER'S THEY GRABBED THE RADIO AND GO.

YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY ANYBODY WORKING NEEDS TO HAVE ONE.

YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE WERE PROVIDING FOR RESERVES.

OKAY. WELL AGAIN AND THEN LIKE A FLEET LIST, BUT A RADIO LIST FOR EACH OFFICE WOULD, WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP.

YEAH. 1.9 MILLION, 10 MILLION, $28,000. AND SOME OF THEM ARE. HOW MUCH WAS THAT? 1.9, 1.9 MILLION. SO SEVEN RADIOS? NO. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HANDHELD AT ABOUT 8500 AND THEN A CAR RADIO ABOUT 8500. SO YOU'RE LOOKING A LOT.

YEAH. IT'S JUST EXPENSIVE TO DO BUSINESS. YEAH.

OKAY. SO JUMPING DOWN TO CONSTABLE THREE. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A SPEAKING OF RADIOS, A NEW PATROL UNIT, RADIO AND A NEW HANDHELD RADIO FOR THAT MAY BE A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST THAT GOT IN THEIR REGULAR.

THAT WAS MY TAKE ON IT. BUT BUT IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR.

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YEAH. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THEIR NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST.

SO THOSE ARE TWO NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS. AND THE UNIT RADIO IS 8500.

THE HANDHELD IS 8000. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 8315 GOT QUESTIONED THAT.

AND THEN THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REPLACE A 1500 RADIO IN A UNIT.

IT'S 8500. AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A I 2026 SILVERADO HALF TON FOR 55.

595 AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE IS 29.

275. BALLISTIC SHIELDS. $8,500 WORTH AND SAFE AND EVIDENCE LOCKER OF $800.

AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE CONFUSION IS UP HERE.

YOU HAVE TWO BALLISTIC BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR 7500.

BUT DOWN HERE WE HAVE ONE FOR 8500. BALLISTIC SHIELDS ON.

YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LIKE SAFETY LEVELS.

NOT SURE. THEY'RE USUALLY ALL RIFLE RATED. CONSTABLE TWO PUT IN FOR 137 50.

CONSTABLE THREE 8500 ON ONE. BUT IT DIDN'T SAY HOW MANY HOURS OR IT GOT A QUOTE FOR $3,940.

SO. WELL, IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ONE 715 BUCKS.

BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY SMALL ONE. IT'S A LITTLE ARMOR PLATE.

IT GOES, OH, THAT'S A PLATE. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST SAW A SHIELD.

YOU'RE RIGHT. SO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THE BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR CONSTABLE THREE? YEAH. I MEAN, IT JUST. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT KIND OF JUMPS OFF.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? CONSTABLE FOUR IS JUST ASKING FOR ONE SET OF BODY ARMOR FOR $3,000. ACTUALLY, THAT'S MORE THAN ONE, ISN'T IT? IT SHOULD BE. SHOULD BE. FROM 1586 OR 1558, 1502.

SO MAYBE THEY'RE FIGURING THAT'S TWO. PROBABLY TWO.

OKAY. HE NEVER ASKED FOR MUCH. SO MOVING ON TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

FOR CID, THEY'RE REQUESTING A DIGITAL MEASURE KIT FOR FOV 530, AN ADVANCED LASER TRAJECTORY KIT FOR 841, A TRANSFER HANDHELD DOCK FOR NEW VEHICLES.

TWO OF THOSE, THAT WOULD BE 1600, BUT THAT IS NEW VEHICLE REQUESTS.

SO. VEHICLE RIFLE LOCK BOX. I MAY BE ABLE TO SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. WITH THIS 287 G MONEY WE GET, WE'RE GOING TO PULL 1.4 MILLION OUT OF CAP NON CAP REQUESTS.

WOO HOO. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT A LIST HERE I CAN GIVE YOU.

SURE. WE'RE JUST WE'RE GOING TO GET IT. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE MONIES COMING IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND THEN WE'LL BUY THEM AS THE MONIES COME IN.

SO YOU'LL REDUCE YOUR BUDGET REQUEST BECAUSE WE WILL REDUCE THE BUDGET REQUEST BY AT LEAST RIGHT NOW.

1.4. OKAY. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE ALL WE'RE TAKING OFF.

OKAY. AND THAT'S VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING. SO OKAY, SO MARK HAD SAID THAT THE OTHER DAY THAT WITH THAT MONEY, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING RATHER THAN PERSONNEL OR, AND THERE'LL BE A LOT OF OTHER MONIES WILL BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR.

BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BUDGET LIKE CERTAIN CONTRACTS AND SOFTWARE AND STUFF LIKE, LIKE SOMETIMES WE GET MONEY, LIKE JOHN TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GET IT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS.

JEFF'S OFFICE IS GOING TO BE GETTING SOME OF THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE GETTING AN AWFUL LOT OF IT, PROBABLY UPWARDS AROUND 5 TO 6 MILLION THIS COMING YEAR.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A LOT WITH IT. SO JUST OH, SORRY, WITH THE 287 G.

IT'S TO FURTHER TO BE ABLE TO WRITE CARRY OUT THE DUTIES UNDER THE MOU.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S ONLY THOSE CERTIFIED DEPUTIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY ICE THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DIRECTLY TIED TO, TO THE TASK FORCE LIKE ANIMAL CONTROL.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH ANIMAL CONTROL. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD OF.

WELL IT IS. AND LIKE, IF A DEPUTY ALREADY HAS A CAR NOW AND HE'S A 287 G, YOU KNOW, DEPUTIZED DEPUTY AND WE GET A NEW ONE, WE CAN TAKE HIS OLD ONE AND GIVE HIM THE NEW ONE BOUGHT WITH THOSE FUNDS.

AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. OKAY. AND THAT WILL BE DOING A LOT OF THAT.

WE'LL BE BUYING NEW LONG GUNS GIVEN THOSE TWO.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH SURPLUS, NOT SURPLUS EXTRA LONG GUNS THAT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE A GUESS ON THE QUANTITY OF HOW MUCH IT'S COMING IN? I PROBABLY HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PEACE OFFICERS WE HAVE AND HOW MANY WE HAVE.

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WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OURSELVES ALREADY BECAUSE WE DO PURCHASE THOSE.

OKAY. BUT AGAIN, WITH ALL THE ALL THE SEIZED FIREARMS THAT COME IN THROUGH THE COUNTY, WE PUT THEM UP FOR AUCTION.

PERIODICALLY. THEY GO THROUGH KIM'S OFFICE, WE GET A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE BUY GUNS WITH THOSE MONIES.

IS THERE A TIME FRAME WHERE WE SHOULD KIND OF TARGET TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN COURT.

PROBABLY THE SOONER THE BETTER, I THINK. I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE DAY YOU DON'T YOU DON'T KNOW THE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT.

YEAH. SO KIM, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD ADD THAT AS A ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS IN COURT SINCE IT IS KIND OF CAP NON CAP LONG ARMS POLICY. AND I THINK BEN JUST PUT IN A BID FOR TEN OR A QUOTE FOR TEN JUST RECENTLY. AND THOSE ARE OUTFITTED PRETTY WELL.

IT'S THEY'RE ABOUT PROBABLY 12 OR 1300 APIECE.

MAYBE NOT. BUT EITHER WAY OR MAYBE HE GOT A BID FOR IT.

SO SO THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. BUT WHEN YOU NEED HIM, YOU NEED HIM.

THAT'S IT. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMS MORE LIKE A NEED THAN A WANT.

IT IS. I MEAN, FROM OUR SIDE OF THINGS. AND WE ONLY SEE THINGS WHEN WHEN SOMETHING GOES BAD AND THERE'S A SUSPECT TO PROSECUTE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS NEEDED THEM, THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED THEM. YOU, YOU KNOW, HANDGUN AT RANGE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE IMPACT YOU NEEDED TO HAVE.

AGREED. BUT BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

MAYBE NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT BUT THROUGHOUT THIS COMING YEAR, I THINK IT'LL IT'LL BE DONE.

THAT ANSWERS THE SECOND KIND OF ASPECT OF THE TIMELINE PART OF MY QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU. IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

OKAY. SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET EXCLUDING PATROL JUST FOR THEIR CAP NON CAP, NOT INCLUDING NEW EMPLOYEE CAP NON CAP OR IT CAP.

NON CAP IS $1.4 MILLION. SO THAT WOULD BE A HUGE REDUCTION.

ALMOST EVERYTHING. I THINK THERE'S 1 OR 2 ITEMS WE COULDN'T DO.

YEAH. SO WELL WE'RE HOPING OUR SALARY. SO DO WE WANT TO SKIP THAT THEN.

SINCE WE THINK THAT'LL BE HANDLED WITH OTHER RESOURCES. IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE TURNING THE PAGE.

SO. SO NO DISCUSSION OF VIBE HERE. YEAH. I THINK ALMOST EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST.

SO AGAIN, WHAT DID YOU SAY KIM, ABOUT VEHICLE NO VEHICLE DISCUSSION AT ALL FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

NO. AND EVEN EVEN THE TWO FOR TRANSPORT WE CAN'T USE USE THE 287 G MONEY FOR TRANSPORT.

WE'RE TAKING TWO VEHICLES. WE HAVE NOW NEW GIVEN OF THEM.

AND THEN WE WILL GET NEW ONES TO REPLACE THE PATROL SB 22 AS WELL.

SB 22. WELL RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO REFIT THOSE AT ALL.

OR WILL THEY BE GOOD IN THE CONDITION THEY'RE IN. A SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS BUT WE'LL BE OKAY WITH IT.

OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST REPURPOSING I GUESS ALL LEGAL.

SO IF IT WERE A GRANT, THEIR WORDING OF SUPPLANTING OR WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT IT'S BEEN CLEAR ON THIS THAT THIS IS NOT A GRANT AND AN AUDIENCE PROBABLY CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT. THE GRANT MONEY. BILL 22.

YEAH. YOU CANNOT SUPPLANT. I MEAN, IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE.

THE 287 G MONEY IS INCENTIVE MONIES YOU CAN SUPPLANT WITH IT.

IT JUST THERE'S STILL SPECIFIC USE PURPOSES BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY BE WITHIN THOSE RESTRICTIONS.

SO OKAY. I WILL DISCUSS ANIMAL CONTROL REAL QUICK SINCE THEY'RE EXCLUDED AND THOSE IF IF THAT'S OKAY. IS THAT APPROPRIATE. YEAH.

WE HAVE TO DO ANIMAL CONTROL. WE CAN'T BUY THAT STUFF FOR THEM.

SO ANIMAL CONTROL, THEY ARE REQUESTING AND BECAUSE OF THE SORTING OF THE WAY THIS WAS SORTED, I'M GOING TO SKIP DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. THEY NEED A THREE QUARTER TON TWO WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACING ONE THAT'S ALREADY IN IN SERVICE.

THE OUTFITTING I'M SORRY, THAT'S 48,009 50 OUTFITTING FOR THAT VEHICLE IS 16395 A CRADLE POINT WOULD BE.

1144 THAT AIR GAIN ANTENNA AND CONNECTIONS. 335 AND THEN RUNNING BOARDS AND A GOOSENECK HITCH WOULD BE. 2202 STRAPPING 550 DOCKING STATION OF 1050 AND A 12 BAY DOG TRANSPORT TRAILER. 18,000 545.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK THE THE DOCKING STATION THOUGH.

THIS IS COMING OUT OF, OH, THAT'S A DOCKING STATION THAT'S COMING WITH A VEHICLE.

IT'S FOR THE COMPUTER MOUNTED. OH, IT SITS IN THERE.

SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP TRANSPORT AND MOVE ON TO IT. YEAH. TRANSPORT. WE'RE THAT'S THAT'S BEEN REMOVED.

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SO SO I T IS IN. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS.

ABRAHAM, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT A CX 380 X $495? OH, THAT IS THE EQUIPMENT USED TO BASICALLY REALIGN THE RADIO RADIOS.

YES. BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS KIND OF THAT HAS A CX 300 BY IT TO THAT 50 ON ALL THREE OF THOSE.

THEY'RE PART OF THE SAME KIT, BUT THEY JUST PUT IT IN DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. SO THIS IS ALL PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO KIND OF, I'M USING THE WRONG WORD HERE, BUT WE TRIANGULATE THE RADIO TOWERS TO MAKE SURE THE SIGNAL IS AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. ESSENTIALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S FOR LIKE THE ACTUAL LIKE HANDHELD RADIOS AS WELL TO HELP REALIGN OR REALIGN, RECONFIGURE THEM JUST TO MAKE THEM A LOT MORE, ACCURATE, BETTER SIGNAL ON A LOT OF THEM.

AND ALLOWS US TO DO THAT IN HOUSE RATHER THAN HAVING THEM SENT OFF AND HAVING TO PAY EXTRA TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. SO AND THEN THE RADIO CONTINGENCY LINE OF 300,000 IN THEIR CAP LINE, IF THEY HAVE TO REPLACE ANY EQUIPMENT OR ADD TO THE TOWERS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM.

SO IT'S TOTAL OF $363,182 FOR ALL OF THEIR REQUESTS.

SO THAT'S JUST A COMBINATION OF A WHOLE LOT OF RADIO STUFF.

YES. HEY, ABRAHAM, ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION. THE THE 57,000 OR 56,000.

THAT'S A NUMBER OF UNITS, CORRECT. THAT'S NOT JUST ONE UNIT.

56,000 OR IS THAT ONE UNIT? THAT'S 57,000 BY ITSELF.

I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE UNIT THAT IS 57,000 OR 56,000.

OKAY. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT REQUIREMENTS HERE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHAT NECESSARY OR LIKE THIS? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT WE OF COURSE, NOW THE SHERIFF HAS GIVEN, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.

BUT IF SOMETHING HAD TO BE CUT IN THAT AREA, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FROM THE ASPECT OF IS THIS STUFF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN THE WORKBOOK, THE NOTES ON THAT ONE SAYS DEVICE THAT ALLOWS US TO REALIGN RADIOS.

SO I WOULD SAY YES. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE INSTEAD OF OUTSOURCING IT BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND REPROGRAM AND STUFF.

CORRECT. YEAH. SO THIS GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO DO IT IN-HOUSE.

OKAY. ON THE REPROGRAM. MAKE SURE THOSE RADIOS ARE AS OPERABLE AS THEY CAN BE OUT IN THE FIELD.

PRESUMABLY THAT WOULD SAVE A LITTLE MONEY FROM WHATEVER WE WERE PAYING WHOEVER TO TO DO IT, BUT ALSO GETS THE RADIO SET UP CORRECTLY IN THE SHORT TERM, NOT A LONGER TERM. YES. OKAY. YEAH. AND FOR ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING, WHEN WE SAY RADIOS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HANDHELD DEVICES THAT FIRE, EMS, DEPUTIES, ETC. ARE USING WHEN THEY'RE RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES SOMEWHERE.

SO YES, THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY HIGH ON THE RADIO SIDE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RADIOS THAT HAVE TO WORK EVERY TIME, NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE LIVES ARE OFTEN AT STAKE.

SO THAT'S WHY IF SOMEBODY'S LISTENING, MY INITIAL THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT ALL OF THIS WAS, YOU CAN GO TO BEST BUY AND GET A RADIO FOR 200 BUCKS.

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE SPENDING THIS FOR? THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF QUALITY.

AND THESE ARE THESE ARE RADIOS THAT HAVE A MUCH HIGHER.

THE STANDARD OF FAILURE CANNOT EXIST WITH THESE RADIOS, BASICALLY.

SO. AND THAT'S VEHICLE RADIOS ON TOP OF THAT.

YES. MAYBE WHAT 2000 IN THE COUNTY MAYBE. YEAH, PROBABLY CLOSE TO THAT.

SO IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF PUBLIC SERVICE OR PUBLIC SAFETY HAS A DISPATCH CAD AND JUST.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ON THE CONTINGENCY ITEM.

PERSONALLY, I LIKED QUITE A BIT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BRIANNA, WITH HAVING A MASTER CONTINGENCY, SO TO SPEAK. AND WE HAD PORTIONS OF IT THAT WE KIND OF PRE ALLOCATED TO DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS THE RADIO.

BUT INSTEAD OF ALLOWING EVERY DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THEIR OWN CONTINGENCY LINE, CONSOLIDATING THAT INTO ONE MASTER CONTINGENCY, BECAUSE HOW MANY TIMES DO WE ACTUALLY CALL FROM THAT THIS YEAR?

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I WOULD BET YOU THOUGH. WELL, I'M NOT I DON'T ACTUALLY NEED SPECIFICS.

WHAT THE POINT I'M MAKING IS. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WE PROBABLY CALLED FROM IT LESS THAN WE WOULD HAVE WITH THE OTHER APPROACH, WHERE EVERY DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR OWN CONTINGENCY LINE.

OH, YEAH. I WOULD SAY FOR IT, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE STILL OF THE PROJECT AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING IT COMPLETED THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT DID COME UP, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, HAD ANYTHING FROM THAT. SO I THINK IT DOES HELP IT.

AND ONE THING THAT I, I DO THINK IF WE FOLLOW THAT APPROACH IS TO GIVE AN AUTHORIZATION UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

SO IT WAS GIVEN 40,000 THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO DO OVERRIDES ON.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE JUST FINISHED COURT AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WENT DOWN THAT IT GAVE THE ABILITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PO EXECUTED AND GET WHATEVER IT NEEDS WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR THAT NEXT COURT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, COULD BE 2 OR 3 WEEKS, DEPENDING ON HOW IT FALLS.

AND SO AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS SUBMIT THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UPDATE THE COURT ON WHAT THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR.

BUT AGAIN, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RESTRICTED IT WHERE IT WASN'T JUST IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT DID GIVE THE ABILITY TO USE IT IN.

YEAH, YEAH. CERTAIN INSTANCES. PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH.

I WOULD SAY THAT KIND OF DOVETAILS BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE WHERE WE HAVE THOSE THINGS IN PURPLE THAT ARE BASICALLY ALSO CONTINGENCIES IN THE.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT BUILDING AND GROUNDS HAS 10,000 IN THERE, AND THE CAS OFFICE HAS A COUPLE DIFFERENT SMALLER LINE ITEMS FOR THAT SAME KIND OF CONTINGENCY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ALL OF THAT BE LUMPED INTO CONTINGENCY THAT THEN IS SUBJECT TO COURT APPROVAL.

BUT IF THERE ARE ITEMS SUCH AS IT WHERE TIME COULD BE OF THE ESSENCE.

WE PRE-AUTHORIZE CERTAIN OVERRIDE AMOUNTS. GOOD WITH THAT MAKE SENSE TO ME? I THINK THATS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. I THINK IT WORKS.

GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO IF WE TAKE OUT THE 1.4 MILLION ISH THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GOING TO ADJUST OUT THE CAP NON CAP REQUEST AS STATED HERE, GET REDUCED DOWN TO 967,660. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE.

DID YOU TAKE OUT THE 300 000 AND THE. NO. YOU LEFT THAT IN THERE SO THAT IT'S AT LEAST GETS PUT SOMEWHERE.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WE CHANGE OVER TO THE NEXT. OH, WAIT.

THE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT NOW IS THE FORD EXPLORER.

OH, I TOTALLY LOST IT. YES. EXTENSION IS REQUESTING A VEHICLE.

OH, I GOT EXCITED ABOUT REDUCING THE WHOLE BUDGET.

A FORD EXPLORER. REAL REAR WHEEL DRIVE FOR 37 FOR 50.

I THINK I READ THEIR REQUEST, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE SEVEN SEAT PASSENGER EXPLORERS.

I GUESS TO TAKE FOUR KIDS TO DIFFERENT AND THEY ARE REPLACING THEM AND THEY'LL STILL USE THE SUBURBAN, I THINK FOR LOCAL STUFF, BUT IT'S BECOME PRETTY UNRELIABLE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, STOCK SHOWS AND SO FORTH THAT THEY GO TO.

AND YOU SAID THIS IS TO TAKE TRANSPORT CHILDREN.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF IT IS TO, TO EVENTS AND STUFF.

I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A GREAT LOOK FOR THE COUNTY TO BE BREAKING DOWN, TRANSPORTING CHILDREN ALL THE TIME.

IF I RECALL CURRICULUM COULD BE WRONG. I THINK THEY REQUESTED THE VEHICLE LAST YEAR AND DIDN'T GET IT.

THEY DID NOT GET. I AGREE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I THINK THAT THEY DID. YEAH. I THINK THEY REQUESTED THE AIRPORT TOO AND DIDN'T GET ONE. THAT JUST PROBABLY MEANS YOUR VEHICLES GO. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAST EXPENSIVE YOU CAN GET.

YEAH. THAT JUST PROBABLY MEANS THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE REPLACING IS JUST TWO YEARS OLDER THAN IT WAS WHEN THEY FIRST WANTED TO REPLACE IT.

SO MAYBE NOW IT'S TIME SAFETY. YEP. OKAY. SO THE NEXT SPREADSHEET GROUP IS GOING TO BE OUR IT RELATED EXPENSES.

HAVE THESE ALL GOTTEN THE BLESSING OF I T ALREADY.

THEY'VE THEY'VE ALL BEEN WORKED THROUGH WITH JAMES AND BETTY.

DIDN'T THEY SUBMIT THEM ALL TO Y'ALL? I MEAN, A GOOD PORTION OF IT IS.

WELL THERE'S A COUPLE HERE. THESE TWO AND THAT ARE IN BLUE.

WAIT. WE NEED TO DISCUSS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THEM INCLUDED.

THOSE ARE THE TWO. YEAH, THOSE ONES WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE NOT.

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THEY DIDN'T REACH OUT TO US ON. SO I DIDN'T HAVE THOSE IN OUR BUDGET.

BUT THE OTHER THINGS ARE THAT ARE LISTED IN THE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT LIKE LAPTOPS AND DESKTOPS.

THEY'RE LIKE SCANNERS AND, AND LITTLE KIOSKS FOR THE COUNTY CLERK AND CAMERAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO FOR LAPTOPS AND DESKTOPS, THOUGH, WE HAVE A BUILT IN AMOUNT ALREADY IN THE IT BUDGET, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT Y'ALL ARE ESSENTIALLY GOING THROUGH AND REPLACING THOSE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WITH SOME REGULARITY, SO WE DON'T EVER GET IN THE SHAPE WE WERE IN BEFORE, WHERE WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM THAT WERE A TON OF THEM THAT WERE FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS OLD AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. RIGHT.

OKAY. SO BASICALLY YOU GUYS CAN GET WITH THE DISTRICT, THE 43RD DISTRICT COURT AND JP THREE AND GET THEIRS IN THE MIX TO WHERE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN OUR BUDGET. YES. BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET ALREADY FUNCTIONALLY.

WELL, WE NEED TO ADD THOSE TO. BECAUSE IN THIS BUDGET REQUEST FOR IT, THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS REQUEST ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THEIRS.

DO Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE EXTRAS ALREADY THAT Y'ALL COULD TAKE CARE OF THIS IN THIS BUDGET? NO. NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE EXTRA LAPTOPS OR DESKTOPS.

IT WOULD ALL BE FOR BUDGET. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. AND THERE'S TWO ON THERE THAT WE CAN PULL ALSO.

THE FIRST ONE FOR SPECIAL CRIMES, THE HARD DRIVE OR THE FOR THE CELLEBRITE.

AND THEN THAT FIRST ONE, THE DOCKING STATIONS. 840 AND 390.

WE CAN PULL THOSE, BOTH OF THEM, BUT NOT THE RECORDS, NOT THE SCANNER FOR RECORDS.

THAT WOULDN'T QUITE STRETCH TO 287 G. OKAY. SO IF WE WANT TO START WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THEY'RE REQUESTING SEVEN RECO SCANNERS. THEY'RE $1,000 APIECE.

FOR $7,000. ARE THOSE THE DESKTOP VERSIONS OF DESKTOP SCANNERS? SHE'S ALSO REQUESTING FIVE. THEY'RE TGAT IS. THAT'S HOW.

THAT'S HOW YOU SAY CLOSE ENOUGH. YEAH. THEY'RE KIOSKS.

THEY'RE LITTLE MINI PC KIOSKS THAT THEY USE. SO ALSO ON THIS LIST, IT INCLUDES UPGRADE TO A V SYSTEM IN BOTH THE 430.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE DESKTOP SCANNER. A THOUSAND BUCKS FOR A DESKTOP SCANNER. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN GET A SCANNER LIKE I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN GET SCANNERS, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING TO SCAN MYLAR SIZE, BUT WE SHOULD ONLY NEED.

DO WE NEED SEVEN OF THOSE? LIKE BECAUSE SCANNERS YOU CAN GET FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS, 300 BUCKS, THEY HAVE TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SOFTWARE. YEAH. AND SO THOSE ONES ARE THE ONES WE'VE USED FOR EVER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WE KNOW WORK WELL WITH NAVIGATOR AND OTHER SOFTWARE. THEY'RE GOOD QUALITY SCANNERS. THEY DO LEGAL REGULAR SIZED PAPER FRONT AND BACK, FRONT BACK SPEED TO COMMISSIONER, I THINK TOO.

YEAH. ALL THE HIGH VOLUME OF IT. THAT'S FAIR, THAT'S FAIR.

AND THEY'VE GOT TO BE QUALITY ENOUGH TO MEET THE RECORDS RETENTION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THAT'S FAIR. SO THE 435 43RD DISTRICT COURT HAS THE UPGRADE OF THE AV SYSTEM ALSO LISTED IN THEIRS. THEY PUT 99,000.

IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF WELL YOU REQUESTED THE QUOTE, THE VENDOR HAS COME OUT AND TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATE.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT ESTIMATE BACK, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL FOUR COURTROOMS. IS THIS THE SAME VENDOR THAT HAS BEEN WORKING? NO, WE'RE. OH, THAT WAS JUDGE JOHNSON. YEAH. NO.

OKAY. YEAH. SWITCHING GEARS. DO YOU KNOW ARE THEY TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S AN OPEN SOURCE SET OF EQUIPMENT? BECAUSE THE, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR COURTS BEFORE HAVE BEEN KIND OF CLOSED SOURCE TO WHERE THE VENDORS, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN GO BACK TO WHEN IT GETS MESSED UP AND IT'S NOT REALLY CAPABLE OF BEING EXPANDED TO.

NO. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE SPECIFIED WITH THE NEW VENDOR IS THAT YES, WE HAVE LIKE A MAINTENANCE WHERE THEY CAN COME OUT AND WORK ON STUFF, BUT WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THE SMALLER ISSUES, STUFF THAT WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO WORK ON AND FIX.

BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING, HEY, THIS IS IT'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO GO WITH, YOU KNOW, OUT TO THEM AND HAVE THEM TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WORK ON IT. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOLELY THEM ONLY ABLE TO WORK ON THAT EQUIPMENT.

WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS INTO IT AND BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT AS WELL.

I CAN TELL YOU, Y'ALL, THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD AUDIO VISUAL PRESENTATION ABILITIES IN A MODERN DAY COURTROOM, IT'S NOT A FUNCTIONAL COURTROOM. SO IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT, WE JUST WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.

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YEAH, THAT'S AN EASY SCORE FOR ME. YEP. WELL, AND SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A FULL BUDGET ESTIMATE FOR ALL FOUR COURTROOMS, BUT WE'RE JUST GUESSING FOR THOSE TWO COURTROOMS, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 100,000 APIECE IN EACH COURTROOM.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OVER 400,000 FOR THE FOUR.

AND THESE ARE UPGRADES. IF WE CAN USE STUFF THAT'S CURRENTLY LIKE MICROPHONES.

YEAH. AND THAT WAS THE MAIN THING. LIKE A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE MAIN, THEY CALL IT LIKE THE HEAD UNIT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

WE CAN PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF THESE MICS ARE LIKE THESE SURE MICS HERE THAT STILL WORK PRETTY WELL.

DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THEM. IT'S MORE OF JUST THE MAIN SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE USUALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT WE WANT TO GET REPLACED.

AND THEN ADDING SOME ORCS AND YES, ADDING SOME MIKES SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FROM THE COURTS OF STUFF THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE THROUGH THE COURT AND HOW THEY OPERATE, SOME EXTRA ADDITIONS TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER AND PRESENTABLE.

AND SO THOSE, THERE'S JUST THE TWO COURTS THAT ARE REQUESTING THAT THIS GO AROUND. WE DID IT FOR ALL THE COURTS INCLUDING COMMISSIONERS COURT AS WELL.

BUT WE'RE LIKE WAITING ON TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM, TRYING TO GET THE QUOTES ON THOSE STILL.

SO THE 99 AND THE $80,000, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, RIGHT, WE'LL PULL THAT OUT OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS REQUESTS AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ADDED TO IT TO ITS BUDGET. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT OR A BALLPARK FIGURE.

THIS OBVIOUSLY IS JUST A BUDGET QUOTE. WE WILL HAVE TO DO AN RFP FOR THIS.

BUT OUR GOAL WAS TO UPGRADE ALL BOTH DISTRICT COURTS.

BOTH CLS AND THEN COMMISSIONERS COURT ALL AT ONCE THIS COMING YEAR.

CORRECT. EXCELLENT. OKAY. SO SKIPPING DOWN TO CCL TWO IS ALSO REQUESTING TWO CAMERAS. $1,500 EACH.

THOSE ARE SECURITY CAMERAS, CORRECT? CO2 LANDING? YES. YEAH. AND THEN THE LICENSE. ENTER THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET. SO WE TAKE THAT OFF.

DISTRICT CLERK'S ALSO ASKING FOR EIGHT OF THIS CO SCANNERS FOR $8,000.

AND THEN JP ONE HAS REQUESTED SOME PRINTERS AND.

IN A COPIER. THOSE WILL ALL BECOME PART OF OUR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH VRBO AND SO ADDED TO THE 409 EXPENSE, THE LEASE EXPENSE AND THEN THE ACTUAL OVERAGE FOR PAGES COST OVER TO THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL.

AND THOSE ARE THOSE NEW? YES. WELL, AND IT HAS NOTES THAT SOME OF THEM ARE CONTINGENT UPON A REMODEL.

REMODEL. OKAY. AND SO COPIER, IF WE CAN GO BACK JUST WHILE WE'RE ON IT FOR THE UPGRADES FOR THE AV. SO IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT WHENEVER I BELIEVE IT, WHEN THEY REDID IT WAS EITHER THE CRIMINAL OR CIVIL FEES. THERE WAS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT WAS CREATED, WHICH IS CALLED THE COURT FACILITY FUND, AND THAT CAN BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR COURTROOMS OR, YOU KNOW, THAT HOUSE A COURT. AND SO I KNOW, I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING WITH YOUR OFFICE OR IF IT WAS THE COURTROOM, THE FOUR 15TH, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT I KNOW WE USE MAYBE 50,000 TO DO SOME UPGRADES IN THERE.

AND SO WE ENDED LAST YEAR WITH 187,000. WE RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWING 233.

SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PAY FOR A PORTION OF THOSE UPGRADES FROM THAT COURT FACILITY FUND SHOULD THE COURT WANT TO USE IT FOR THAT.

IT IS ALLOWED FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A SAVINGS TO AT LEAST PAY FOR HALF OF THE COURT.

AWESOME. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE OTHER TWO SINCE WE HAVE THESE FIRST TWO IN HERE.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO AN UPGRADE LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD ALL GET DONE IN ONE YEAR OR.

YEAH. SHOULD BE. YEAH. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE PEOPLE'S TIME, GETTING ON FIGURING OUT THE COURT SCHEDULE.

IS IT RIGHT? THE DOCKET? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO SKIPPING DOWN TO C I'D YOU SAID YOU TAKE OFF THOSE, BUT YOU Y'ALL NEEDED THE DOCUMENT SCANNER FOR RECORDS, THAT'S $930.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITS REQUEST. THEY'RE REQUESTING 4040 GATE REPLACEMENT AND THAT'S 85,000 877.

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YES. AND THAT ONE IS KIND OF CONTINGENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT TO PAY FOR THOSE.

AND SO IF IT GETS APPROVED, THEN THOSE WILL GET PAID WITH GRANT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, THE AWARD OF THAT.

IT DEPENDS. IT'S SOMETIME BETWEEN PROBABLY NOVEMBER, SEPTEMBER 1ST.

RIGHT. BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE EVER GET THE APPROVAL.

YEAH. AND IN THE PAST, YEAH, WE DON'T GET THE APPROVAL UNTIL LIKE END OF NOVEMBER ALMOST.

SO WE NEED A BUDGET NOW, JUST IN CASE. LIKE PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY.

SO. WE CAN'T BUDGET AND THEN. RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS UNNECESSARY THEN I GUESS. OH OKAY.

SO YOU BETTER PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY. OTHERWISE YOU'D BE SUPPLANTING. YEP. OKAY.

OKAY. SO. SO BASICALLY TAKE THAT OFF OF THERE.

IN OTHER WORDS. YEAH. RIGHT. YEP. OKAY. OKAY.

THEY'RE REQUESTING RICOTTA TRAILERS FOR $153,000.

IS THAT TWO? TWO FOR COTTAGE TRAILERS. AND I KNOW JAMES HAS TALKED TO ME SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE AND WHAT THE VALUE OF THESE RICOTTA TRAILERS WILL ALSO TEXTING IT.

YEAH. SO COULD YOU GO INTO. YEAH. AND HE SAID HE COULD COME TO ONE OF THE LATER ONES.

HE'S AT ONE OF THE TOWER SITES RIGHT NOW WORKING ON. BUT HE DID WANT TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT THIS HIMSELF.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE SECURITY CAMERA TRAILERS, PORTABLE TRAILERS THAT CAN BE HAULED OFF TO ANY SITE AND BE ABLE TO HOOK INTO OUR CURRENT SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM. AND SO IT'S LIKE A TRAILER THAT BASICALLY EXPANDS UP AND IT HAS A BUNCH OF CAMERAS ALL AROUND IT THAT WE CAN DEPLOY TO EVENTS, PEACH FESTIVAL RODEOS STUFF LIKE THAT, AND HAVE A BASICALLY PORTABLE CAMERA SETUP.

I THINK THERE WAS SOME UTILIZATION THAT COULD ALSO BE HAD IF SEARCH AND RESCUE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU CAN TIE IT INTO DRONES AND HAVE A KIND OF CENTRALIZED COMMAND POST.

THERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA FROM A SECURITY SAFETY STANDPOINT.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER WALTON HAD VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE RODEO AND HOW THAT WAS HANDLED, AND I THINK FUNCTIONALITY LIKE THIS WAS A KEY PART OF THAT.

OKAY, SO ADELE PRO MAX DESKTOP COMPUTER AND THAT IS FOR THIS, I BELIEVE.

YEAH. THAT IS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE FOR THEIR CELLEBRITE LIKE CELL PHONE DATA DUMPS.

THAT WAS ALREADY IN ANOTHER LINE. WAS THAT 80, 83, 67? I THINK IT'S IN THE CAP NON CAP BECAUSE THIS WAS FOR OH, WAS IT.

IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WE WERE GOING TO PULL.

I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU CAN USE YOUR TWO D TECHNOLOGY MONEY FOR THAT.

YES. THE WAY THE 283 OR 287 G BUCKET WORKS OUT SOME OF ITS EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF ITS TECHNOLOGY.

AND SO THE TECHNOLOGY STUFF IS OBVIOUSLY CARS USE UP YOUR EQUIPMENT BUDGET REAL FAST, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY SOMETIMES CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I'VE GOT IT ON MY LIST, SO WE CAN STRIKE THAT OFF THERE THOUGH.

RUSS RIGHT. BUT I'VE MOVED IT AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH ABRAHAM TO IT BUDGET, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A NUMBER ON THE BOARD, BUT WE'RE THINKING WE CAN PAY FOR IT. PAY WITH THAT. YEAH, IT'S IT'S ON THE LIST TO BE TAKEN OFF.

SO STRIKE THAT OFF OF THERE. OKAY, COOL. SO REQUESTING 400 UP THE BOX.

YEAH. THESE ARE THE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE SECURITY.

USB, THE MFA DEVICES, ESSENTIALLY. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE 22,400.

AND THAT ONE WAS, I BELIEVE, ANOTHER ONE WE HAD APPLIED FOR A GRANT FOR.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE. YES. ANOTHER MOVE TO CONTINGENCY.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING 27 DELL PRO RUGGED LAPTOPS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ABOUT 78,023.

AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THIS COOLING OFF KIT.

IS THIS JUST LIKE LIKE PART OF THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM? HE'S DOING ABOUT A THIRD OF THE THE UNITS PER YEAR.

YES. AND SOME OF THOSE ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN USE THIS MONEY FOR THAT.

SOME OF THOSE ARE FOR OTHER OFFICES LIKE FOR THE CONSTABLES OFFICES AS WELL.

SO THERE IS THAT MONEY AVAILABLE. DON'T WE HAVE ONE OR MORE CONSTABLE ON THE 27 G PROGRAM? PRECINCT FOUR IS IN THE PROGRAM. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE, MAYBE TWO.

I'VE HAD ANOTHER COUNCILOR REACH OUT TO ME AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION YESTERDAY.

AND I THINK THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE COURT FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MOU.

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OKAY. BUT IS IT PRECINCT FOUR. IS IS SCOTT. SCOTT'S IN IT.

OKAY. OKAY. YES. BUT SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO CONSTABLE FOUR.

YES, A DIFFERENT YES. SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO STILL ORDER ON THE LAPTOPS.

IT'LL BE A LOT LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE.

LAPTOPS. PROBABLY THE SAME THING. MOST OF THOSE WOULD BE FOR OUR GUYS.

YES. YEAH. THE LAPTOPS ARE MOSTLY MOSTLY. THOSE ARE MOSTLY.

NO, NO BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE LAPTOPS. NON RUGGED ONES.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MOSTLY REPLACEMENTS AS WELL AS TO HAVE A FEW SPARES ON HAND IN CASE SOMETHING BREAKS OR HAVE EXTRA 15 WOULD BE 32,000 FOR LIKE, LIKE SOME OF THE INVESTIGATORS AND SOME OF THE ASSISTANT DA'S AND COUNTY ATTORNEYS, JUST JUST ANYBODY WHO USES A LAPTOP IN THEIR DUTIES.

YES, SIR. SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.

SO LOOK AT HOW MANY OF THESE ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHT IN THAT 15 NUMBER.

COULD THAT DOES THAT NEED TO BE INCREASED OR COULD THAT INCLUDE THE ABOVE REQUEST FOR JP THREE AND THE DISTRICT COURT? IT COULD INCLUDE. IT COULD INCLUDE THOSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO INCLUDE. I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS AGAIN AND SEE HOW MANY EXTRAS WE HAD ACCOUNTED FOR. WELL, ESPECIALLY IF Y'ALL CAN REMOVE SOME OF THEM THEN. YEAH. OH WELL THEN YEAH, YEAH.

JP THREE COULD ALSO USE OUR TECHNOLOGY FUND. AND I THINK LAST YEAR ALL THE I T REQUESTS FOR THE JP, I THINK COURT DID CORRECT. AND IT'S FURTHER DOWN HERE.

YES. SO FOR QUARTER SECURITY THEY ARE REQUESTING $40,000.

WE'VE GOT MORE CAMERAS. YEAH. ESSENTIALLY MORE CAMERAS DOOR CONTROLLERS, ANYTHING RELATED TO THE SECURITY SYSTEMS. AND THERE ARE SOME OF THESE ITEMS, LIKE THESE CONTRACT SERVICES THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO LATER REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR JUST DEPENDING IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LEGAL LEGAL AUTHORIZATION USE OF THOSE FUNDS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN BUDGET, TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET AND DO THAT, I THINK IT'S STILL GOING TO NEED TO BE BUDGETED WITH THE COUNTY FUNDS, BUT POSSIBLY BE REIMBURSED LATER.

SO WE'RE HOPING AND WE HAVE. TWO ALL IN ONE DESKTOPS.

THOSE ARE FOR EACH OF THE CCL COURTS FOR 4000 344.

AND THEN THE EXTENSION OFFICE IS GOING TO BE REPLACING TWO OF THEIR LAPTOPS.

AND THAT'S A COST SHARE WITH THE STATE, THE A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION.

SO OUR PORTION WOULD BE $1,500 FOR THOSE TWO.

AND THEN TO TALK ABOUT THE 157 TECHNOLOGY FUND, JP THREE HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY FOR BASICALLY $12,000 NON CAP AND THEN 10,000 FOR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT USING THAT TECHNOLOGY.

SO THEIR THEIR LAPTOPS COULD BE COVERED IN THE.

I THINK A QUESTION THAT ALWAYS COMES UP ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY FUND IS HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN IT.

I FEEL LIKE YOU'LL ASK THAT ALL THE TIME. SO AND IT VARIES.

IT'S NOT THIS EQUAL ACROSS. RIGHT? NO, I KNOW IT'S NOT.

BUT I MEAN, I THINK JUST KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR COURT JUST TO BE LIKE THIS IS THE BALANCE OF THOSE TECHNOLOGY BUDGETS AS OF SUCH AND SUCH DATE. AND DO THOSE STAY SPECIFIC TO EACH OF THE COURTS, OR ARE THOSE LUMPED TOGETHER FOR ALL THE JUSTICE COURTS? IT'S SPECIFIC. IT'S SPECIFIC. OKAY. IT'S IN ONE FUND.

BUT INCEPTION TODAY, ALL THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN TRACKED BY EACH COURT.

OKAY. SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HAVE WITH LIKE DISTRICT COURT AND CCL.

SO WE HAVE LIKE A COURT INTERPRETER, WE HAVE THE COURT REPORTER SERVICE FUND, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT WRITE THE SPECIFIC COURTS.

WE'RE NOT TAKING COUNTY CLERK AND DISTRICT CLERK AND DIVIDING AND DOING ALL THAT.

BASICALLY, WE JUST LOOK AT THOSE FUNDS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PAY FOR INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S ALLOWED BY THAT FUND.

SO, AND IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE DEFINITELY TRIED TO TO MOVE THINGS EVEN LAST YEAR WITH THERE WAS AN AG OPINION THAT CAME ACROSS ON THE LISTSERV OF HOW THE LAW LIBRARY WAS BEING USED. AND SO IT WAS ALLOWED FOR ATTORNEY AND THE JUDGES.

SO WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR, I KNOW LIKE LEXIS AND WESTLAW PAYING FOR THOSE OUT OF THE LAW LIBRARY INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO ANY TIME WE SEE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS OR AGAIN,

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SOMETHING COMES UP OR AN AG OPINION, YOU KNOW, OF HOW WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS MAYBE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WE HAVE, THAN WE TRY TO UTILIZE THOSE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL FUND.

SO. THAT WAS ALL OF THE IT RELATED EXPENSES. AND OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT PAGE, THE SUMMARY IS NOT GOING TO BE CORRECT BECAUSE OF SOME REDUCTION IN REQUESTS.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEW EMPLOYEE RELATED NON CAP ITEMS. WHAT ARE ZEEE? EMPLOYEE. EMPLOYEE. OKAY. SO AGAIN WE DISCUSSED A WHILE AGO. JP ONE IS THREE DESK REQUESTED. DID YOU GET A CONFIRMATION EMAIL BACK FROM HER? I AM NOT YET. SO WE'RE WAITING TO TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE REQUESTING 3 OR 4 NEW DESK AND THAT IS CONTINGENT MAYBE ON YOU HAVE THREE. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO WITH THREE FOR NOW FOR A TOTAL OF $4,290. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. THIS IS THE SAME REQUEST AS ON THE FIRST ONE FOR THE CAP.

NON CAP. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET CONFIRMATION FROM THEM.

IF. BECAUSE YOU THINK IT WOULD JUST BE ONE. RIGHT.

IF IT'S FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEE. YEAH. BUT I THINK IF THEY GET THE THE YOU KNOW SPRINGTIME REMODEL THEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO YOU'RE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES FOR THAT. WELL, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THREE AND THE FIRST ONE HERE.

SO I MEAN IT'S A IT TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THE VERY SAME THAT IT'S DUPLICATED.

WELL, BUT THEY HAVE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLERKS IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REPLACING THEIR DESK, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX POTENTIALLY.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR A CONFIRMATION.

OKAY. BUT THESE ARE ALL EXPENDITURES RELATED TO IF WE IF THE COMMISSIONERS APPROVE THE NEW EMPLOYEE, THAT THESE ARE THE EXPENSES THAT WOULD COME WITH THE NEW EMPLOYEE IS CONTINGENT ON THE NEW BUILDING OR THE REMODEL, AND THEIR NEW EMPLOYEE IS CONTINGENT UPON THE NEW EMPLOYEE.

I THINK THAT PARTICULAR ITEM DRIVES A LOT OF OTHER DECISIONS ON NEW EMPLOYEE.

YEAH. SO MAYBE THREE, IF THEY GET THEIR NEW EMPLOYEE, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO NEED A SCANNER.

AND THE DA'S OFFICE, IF THEY GET A NEW EMPLOYEE, WILL NEED A DESK.

600 IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH FOR A DESK. I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M WONDERING IF I NEED A NEW DESK, BUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO? THEY JUST NEED A STAND UP DESK BECAUSE WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT? WE JUST BOUGHT THREE FOR $214 EACH.

SO YEAH, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO THIS. I DON'T WANT A BAR TABLE OR SOMETHING.

I THINK APPARENTLY DESKS ARE $1,300 OR SOMETHING.

MINE, APPARENTLY ARE ONLY 600 BUCKS. I'M NOT SURE.

MAYBE MINE WON'T LAST. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN HERE NEXT YEAR ASKING FOR ANOTHER ONE. YEAH, IT COULD BE IN THERE TEN YEARS FROM NOW, I DON'T KNOW. WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT PERSON'S GOING TO SIT IN THE PARKING LOT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE. YEAH. PUT THEM ON THE ROOF. SO AUTO REGISTRATION IS ASKING FOR DESK AND CHAIRS.

IF THE SPRINGTOWN ANNEX IS REMODELED FOR A TOTAL OF 4000.

CONSTABLE. ONE HAT. CONTINGENCY OR NEEDS FOR CONTINGENT UPON NEW EMPLOYEE AT BEST OF 1586 AND A RADIO 15,000 945. IS THAT THAT MUST BE A HANDHELD AND A CAR RADIO.

BUT DID HE ASK FOR A NEW CAR FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEE? NO. THAT'S GOT TO BE TWO RADIOS OF SOME SORT.

I WOULD HOPE. COUNCILWOMAN DID NOT ASK FOR A CAR AT ALL.

SO I GUESS HE'S GOT AN EXTRA CAR. YEAH.

I THINK IT'S HANDHELD AND. MAYBE HE'S PLANNING ON LIKE BUYING LIKE, I THINK DOING A SURPLUS. I THINK THE NEW EMPLOYEE WAS GOING TO BE SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING TO BE POSTED AT THE OFFICE ALL DAY.

LIKE A STATION. YES. STATION. BECAUSE WHEN. BECAUSE THE IDEA IS YOU MOVE AUTO REGISTRATION OUT.

THE DEPUTY THAT YOU ALL HAVE STATIONED THERE WOULD FOLLOW THEM.

I WOULD ASSUME, BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT'S IN THAT BUILDING.

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AND THEN THE NEW DEPUTY WOULD ACT AS COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR THE JP.

SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T NEED A VEHICLE. THEN WHY DO WE NEED TWO RADIOS? YEAH, ONE ONE'S PROBABLY A VEHICLE RADIO. I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I CAN ASK HIM. OKAY. COULD BE REPLACING ANOTHER OLDER ONE.

BUT THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE A NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST. IT WOULD BE A REGULAR REQUEST.

YEAH. I ONLY HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE. THE MOTOROLA 8400.

DOES IT SAY 15,000 945. YEAH. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT 1591 RADIO IS NOT 15,000.

I WONDER IF THAT IS THE ONE OFF PRICE. SO WHAT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT'S THE PRICE FOR JUST ONE RADIO.

IF YOU DON'T GET IT IN BULK OR ANYTHING. LIKE IS THAT A STANDALONE PRICE POSSIBLY WHERE THEY'RE NOT DOING IT THROUGH THE BUY BOARD OR SOMETHING? NO, WE SHOULDN'T BE BUYING IT. RIGHT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S WHERE HE GOT THE NUMBER FROM.

I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THEY'RE LIKE 8000 508,000 FOR.

I WAS GOING TO SAY WE HAD THEM AT 8000 EARLIER.

8500 AND SOMEBODY ASKED FOR NINE. SO NOT 15 ANTENNAS AND OTHER THINGS FOR THEM TO LIKE.

OH YEAH. IS IT THE HOLE IN THE VEHICLE? SOMETIMES IT'S TAKING IT OUT AND INSTALLING INSTALLATION.

OKAY. I'VE ASKED OR I'VE GOT IT DOWN TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

OKAY. CONSTABLE TWO FOR NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST IS NEEDING A DESKTOP COMPUTER AND A LAPTOP COMPUTER.

THOSE TWO ITEMS. 125114. CONSTABLE THREE FOR THEIR NEW DEPUTY THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING WOULD NEED A VEST AT 1500. PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AT 500, A TAHOE AT 3000 AND THE OUTFITTING FOR THAT TAHOE OF 27.

620. OKAY, THIS THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT WHAT'S PROTECTIVE CLOTHING? SO LIKE, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT A BULLETPROOF VEST BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.

750 THE VEST COULD BE OUT OF CARRIER, POSSIBLY RAINCOAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THERE'S PROBABLY JACKETS.

I'M NOT SURE. IT JUST IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND THE JAIL LINE.

PROBABLY WHERE THE. SHERIFF, ON THE EMPLOYEE REQUEST.

DOES ANY OF THIS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT? WELL, THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE WE'RE ASKING FOR EIGHT PATROL DEPUTIES.

AND DEPENDING ON THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY BE PARING THIS DOWN TO WHATEVER WE THINK CAN BE AFFORDED, FUNDED WITH ANY OF THE I. WE CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH NEW EMPLOYEES HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO YEARS ON.

BUT WE GET SOME, YOU KNOW, WE GET SOME LATERAL FOLKS THAN POSSIBLY.

BUT A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IFFY. OKAY. SO WE'LL START AT THE TOP HERE.

BULLET RESISTANT VESTS. EIGHT OF THOSE FOR 12,464.

EIGHT RIFLE SHIELDS AT 33,940 EACH, FOR A TOTAL OF 315 20.

WE NEED EIGHT CHEVY PD TAHOES 581 50 EACH FOR 465,200.

STRIPING OF THOSE WOULD BE 4400 MOBILE RADIOS.

EIGHT OF THOSE, 61,040 HANDHELD RADIOS WOULD BE 665 20.

THE OUTFITTING OF ALL THOSE VEHICLES WOULD BE.

2188 THE ANTENNA AND CONNECTION CABLES. 2680 IN-CAR CAMERA SYSTEMS. 29,808 CRADLE POINT DEVICES 8400. AND THE DOCKING STATIONS AT 9152 FOR A TOTAL FOR ALL OF THOSE VEHICLES.

AND THE EXTRA STUFF FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEES WOULD BE 909,984.

AND THERE'S THE RADIO COST RIGHT THERE AT MOBILE AND A HANDHELD.

EACH ONE OF THOSE ADDS UP TO THAT. 15.945 FROM, I'M ASSUMING THE CONSTABLE ONE REQUEST.

SO IT'S PROBABLY FOR ONE OF EACH. SHERIFF, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAD ASKED YOU, DID YOU PUT ANY PRIORITIES ON, ESPECIALLY THE PERSONNEL AND SOME OF THOSE.

I DID, AND THE SALARY RESTRUCTURE. WHEN IT COMES TO NEW PERSONNEL, THE SALARY STRUCTURE IS IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY I CAN GET.

AND THIS IS GOING TO KIND OF BE IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OVER, I'LL TAKE WHATEVER I CAN GET.

BUT HOPEFULLY WITH THIS 1.4 MILLION, WE CAN CUT OUT OF THE CAP NON CAP THAT WILL HELP PAY FOR A LOT OF THAT.

AND I THINK WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER MONIES THAT WILL BE FUNNELING THROUGH THE CALENDAR YEAR THAT WILL HELP PAY FOR ALL.

A LOT OF THAT, BUT ALSO MENTIONED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.

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SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD IT. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING 7 TO 8, NINE, TEN VACANCIES ALL YEAR LONG.

IF I WERE TO GET THESE EIGHT POSITIONS RIGHT NOW AND NOT THE SALARY STRUCTURE, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FILL THESE.

SO THIS STUFF WILL GO EITHER UNORDERED OR THE EQUIPMENT WILL GO ORDERED AND IT'LL JUST BE SITTING THERE.

THE SALARY STRUCTURE IS A MUST. AND THE LATERAL PAY, IT'S JUST A MUST.

AND IF I GET THAT, I'M SURE I COULD FILL THESE.

BUT IT WE STILL HAVE, I THINK SEVEN OPENINGS RIGHT NOW.

SO GIVEN GIVEN THE SALARY STRUCTURE WOULD BE GIVEN US LIKE 7 OR 8 PEOPLE BECAUSE I'LL BE ABLE TO FILL IT, I'LL BE FULL AGAIN. SO THIS IS ALL I'M JUST I'M NOT GOING TO CALL IT GRAVY.

IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH LOWER PRIORITY THAN THE SALARY STRUCTURE IN THE LATERAL PAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO. MOVING ON TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

IF HE GETS AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY DEPUTY VEST AT 1558, A HANDHELD RADIO AT 8315.

IT IS REQUESTING A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NEW VEHICLE AT 238 50 AT CHEVROLET TRAX, CHEVROLET TRAX AND THEN A DELL PRECISION, THAT.

DESKTOP GIS SOFTWARE AT $5,000. NOW LET ME ASK JACOB, ARE WE THE GIS SPECIALIST? IS THAT IN THE.

IS THAT IN THE EMPLOYEE. I MEAN, IN THE PERSONNEL.

IT'S IN THE PERSONNEL REQUEST. OKAY. OKAY. AND THE GOAL FOR THAT PERSON IS WHEN THEY COME ON, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO GET THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING.

AFTER THE SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING, THEIR WORKLOAD ON THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION WILL GO DOWN.

BUT I'M VERY CONFIDENT MR. K WOOD'S ABILITY TO FIND OTHER WORK FOR HIM TO DO OR HER.

SO. SEVEN TOTAL FOR NEW EMPLOYEE REQUEST. CAPTAIN CAP WOULD BE 1,063,657 IF EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED. THERE'S ALSO DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF OF THE PAGE.

IT DID INCLUDE IN THEIR BUDGET REQUEST IN THE IT CAPITAL CAP BUDGET.

ALL OF THESE ITEMS ALREADY IS BUILT INTO THERE, WHICH WOULD BE COMPUTERS AND LICENSE FOR THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HERE.

IF THEY WERE ALLOWED THOSE EMPLOYEES. SO THE COMPUTER STUFF IS ALREADY INCLUDED.

ANYTHING ELSE? WITH THAT, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE OUT OF THE BUDGET ON THE CAP NON CAP WOULD BE THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TAHOE, THE GENERIC VEHICLE REPLACEMENT QUESTIONS. CONSTABLE TWO WHAT ARE THE TWO NEW RADIOS FOR? CONSTABLE THREE HOW MANY BALLISTIC SHIELDS IS THE 8504 AND THEN CONSTABLE ONE.

WHY 15,000 FOR THE RADIOS. WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER REPRESENT? DID I MISS ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC CALL OUTS ON? I THINK YOU HAVE THE LARGER THE LARGER PROVIDING HANDGUNS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT QUESTION.

BUT THAT'S TO ME, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A COURT THAT'S.

YES. YEAH. THAT'S NOT THESE ARE THESE ARE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT QUESTIONS. GOTCHA.

OKAY. DID I MISS ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THE TRUCK FOR THREE WAS 55595.

I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE. IS THAT CONSTABLE THREE.

CONSTABLE THREE I WILL ADD THAT IN THERE. SO ONE.

EMPLOYEE ONE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SOME TRUCKS THAT ARE NOT FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT PPV AND THEY'RE 44,000 AS OPPOSED TO ALMOST 56.

SO SO AMG ACCIDENTALLY. OKAY, SO CLARIFICATION ON CONSTABLE ONE'S $15,000 RADIO.

THE QUOTE CAME BACK WITH TWO DIFFERENT MODELS.

AND IT, THEY PLUGGED IN THE, THE FULL QUOTE INSTEAD OF CHOOSING ONE MODEL OVER THE OTHER.

SO IT WOULD BE HALF OF WHATEVER. OKAY, SO I CAN TAKE THAT QUESTION OFF THEN.

SO YEAH, JUST WHATEVER A HANDHELD RADIO COST IS.

OKAY WITH THAT THEN DO WE WANT TO TAKE A VERY QUICK RECESS AND THEN GO IN THERE FOR THE EMPLOYEE SCORING? YOU'RE IN CHARGE. YEP. DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? YEP. SEE YOU ALL IN THERE. SOUNDS GOOD. SO.

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