Aug 25, 2026 Commissioners Court Budget Agenda

BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS YOUR TIME.

WE, I KNEW, I, I KNEW I WOULD GET SOMEBODY AND IT HAD TO BE RICHARD.

I SAY, UH, TAKING THOSE FUNDS THAT HAVE COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, UH, AND UTILIZING THOSE IN LIEU OF, AND MAYBE GIVING BACK TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE GREAT.

BRACE YOURSELF PEOPLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

RICHARD HEISER.

I'M HERE FROM WEATHERFORD, TEXAS.

I, I'VE SAT THROUGH, UH, A LOT OF THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND, AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, UH, A LOT THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT WE STILL, UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS STRUGGLE WITH AND, AND I STRUGGLE WITH, AND THAT'S ON YOUR SALARIES AND SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS OF GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO SET THOSE SALARIES.

UH, COMING FROM A GOVERNMENT, UH, BACKGROUND, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE GONNA MAKE, AND THOSE WERE SET BY, UH, STANDARDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT I, MAYBE THIS IS NOT CAPABLE WITHIN THE COUNTY, BUT I, I THINK IT IS A STRUGGLE THAT, THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO LOOK AT VERY CLOSELY, BECAUSE SINCE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20, THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, A LOT OF, OF INCREASES IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY GO IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ALWAYS A, A PROBLEM.

UH, THE OTHER THING IS, OF COURSE, I DO KNOW TOO, AND, AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, YOU HAVE, I WOULD SAY, BLESSED WITH A LOT OF FUNDING THIS TIME THAT CAME FROM OUTSIDE.

AND, UH, TO ME, IT, IT, IT FOR SURE HELPED US, HELPED YOU, I'M SURE WITH, UH, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND IF IT EVEN WENT BELOW THAT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT YOU UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS, UH, IN THAT WAY.

UH, BUT AGAIN, I, I DO APPRECIATE, UH, I'VE, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND I APPRECIATE, UH, BEING A PART, UH, I WOULD NOT SEE, UH, A PROBLEM WITH EXPANSION OF, OF MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN YOUR BUDGETING PROCESS TO, TO LEARN ABOUT IT.

BUT, UM, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS THAT'S IMPROVING AND, AND, AND GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.

AND I APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THAT, UH, FOR SURE.

BUT THOSE TWO AREAS, UH, FROM THE ASPECT OF, OF, OF THE SALARY SITUATION, AND, UH, LIKE

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THANK YOU, RICHARD.

UH, GOOD MORNING, RICHARD SIMS. UM, SO I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT RICHARD, UH, JUST SAID.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN YOUR SHOES BEFORE, UM, BUT I'VE BEEN OVER A LARGE CORPORATION, SO I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I THINK MANY OF THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND THE, UH, SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE MARKET FORCES, BUT THESE ARE ELECTED POSITIONS.

AND I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW WHEN YOU START A PROCESS, IT JUST KEEPS ECHOING.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS STARTED AND WHY IT FELT LIKE IT NEEDED TO BE SO MUCH HIGHER THAN COST OF LIVING WHEN THE EMPLOYEES WERE LIKE THAT.

SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT'S TOO LATE FOR Y'ALL TO RECONSIDER, BUT, UM, I HOPE YOU WILL.

THANKS.

ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? ASHLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE, I'M KIDDING.

I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? LAST CALL.

BACK TO ITEM ONE ON DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION.

WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9 0 6.

I'M SORRY.

OH, I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED, WE'RE GONNA GO

[I. Discuss and take action necessary related to the District Attorney's county supplement in accordance with Texas Government Code 46.003(b). (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

NECESSARY.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, IN LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT'S ATTORNEY'S SALARY SUPPLEMENT, UH, WE CAME ACROSS TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 46.003.

UM, AND LET ME READ THAT TO YOU.

WHAT IT SAYS IS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY SUPPLEMENT THE STATE PROSECUTOR'S STATE SALARY, BUT NOT PAY THE STATE PROSECUTOR PROSECUTOR AN AMOUNT LESS THAN THE COMPENSATION IT PAYS ITS HIGHEST PAID DISTRICT JUDGE.

AND SO THE SALARY SUPPLEMENT WE PAY THE DISTRICT JUDGES IS 25,000.

UM, WHEN WE STARTED PAYING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY A SALARY SUPPLEMENT, UM, THAT WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

AND AT THAT TIME, WHAT IT WAS DOING IS WE WERE PAYING HIM AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD MAKE HIS TOTAL COMPENSATION EQUAL TO THAT OF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.

AND SO FOR 2024 AND 2025, WE WERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT STATUTE.

NOW, IN 2026, UM, THAT AMOUNT DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN TO 26 0 4.

AND THE REASON WHY IT DECREASED IS BECAUSE, UM, FISCAL YEAR 26, THE YEAR WE'RE IN, UM, THERE WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SENATE BILL 2 93.

AND WHAT THAT DID IS IT INCREASED THE BASE SALARY OF CERTAIN JUDICIAL OFFICIALS, INCLUDING, UM, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

AND SO WHAT I'M REQUESTING TODAY IS TO, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT STATUTE, TO MOVE FROM CONTINGENCY, THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WE SHOULD PAY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN THE COUNTY SALARY SUPPLEMENT FOR THIS YEAR IS 20 2003 96.

AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, WE WOULD THEN PAY THAT 25,000 SALARY SUPPLEMENT.

WE ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOTION SO THAT WE CAN GET OVER TO THE DISCUSSION PORTION.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, BASICALLY WE HAVE TO, DUE TO STATE STATUTE, WE NEED TO BUMP UP MR. SWAIN BY $22,396 IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, YES.

FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, SO WE'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE 'CAUSE IT'S AN ANNUAL SALARY SUPPLEMENT, WE'RE STILL WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THAT COMPLETED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, AND THEN NEXT YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, THEN IT WOULD BE THE 25,000 TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND CAN YOU REPEAT THE STATUTE NUMBER, PLEASE? UH, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 46.03 B.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM FOR VOTE? SO IT WAS, THAT STATUTE STATES THAT IT, HIS SUPPLEMENT CANNOT BE LOWER THAN THE SUPPLEMENT PAID TO ONE OF THE DISTRICT TO THE HIGHEST PAID DISTRICT JUDGE.

THE, SO PRIOR TO THAT, THE SUPPLEMENT FOR OURS? CORRECT.

AND WE PAY BOTH DISTRICT JUDGES, UM, THE SAME SALARY SUPPLEMENT.

SO, UM, PRIOR TO LA WELL, PRIOR TO THIS YEAR, UM, FOR SENATE BILL 2 93, THAT WAS 18,000 AND IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT FOR, FOR YEARS.

AND THEN LAST YEAR IT INCREASED IT WHERE WE COULD PAY A MAX, UM, COUNTY SUPPLEMENT TO 25,000.

AND SO WERE AT

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AND, UM, PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE BECAUSE OF WHERE WE WERE PAYING THE SALARY SUPPLEMENT TO THE DA.

BUT THEN AGAIN, ONCE, ONCE THERE WAS THAT INCREASE IN THE BASE PAY, WE DID NOT HAVE TO PAY AS MUCH TO MAKE IT EQUAL WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S SALARY.

AND SO THAT'S WHEN IT DECREASED THIS YEAR.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF DECREASING THAT SUPPLEMENT TO THE JUDGES TO WHERE THAT'S NOT THE SAME INCREASE.

I'M JUST ASKING IF THAT'S AN OPTION.

I MEAN, I THINK EVERY YEAR IT PROBABLY IS AN OPTION OF YOU'RE PAYING A SALARY SUPPLEMENT.

UM, WHETHER THAT'S CHANGED A GOOD QUESTION.

WELL, WE'RE GETTING TOLD THIS FROM AUSTIN AGAIN, AND HERE WE ARE LATE IN THE BUDGET AGAIN.

SO I, WE GOTTA ABIDE BY THE LAW.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE WERE PAYING IT, WE DID READ THAT STATUTE, AND THEN WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION THIS YEAR OF SB 2 93, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.

AND SO THAT IS DEFINITELY IN ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR NOTES.

AND I BELIEVE, UM, UH, THE DA WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE WERE PAYING A, UM, COUNTY SUPPLEMENT BECAUSE HE DID NEED TO PROVIDE US WITH WHAT HIS SALARY WAS, SO THAT WAY WE KNEW WHAT AMOUNT OF THE COUNTY SUPPLEMENT TO MAKE IT EQUAL TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

AND SO HE PROVIDED THE STATUTES OF WHERE HIS SALARY IS SET.

AND SO IN REVIEWING THAT, WE CAME ACROSS THIS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND, YES, NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TAKING ANY RIGHT SHOTS AT, AT JEFF HERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO HAS SOUNDS LIKE IT.

YEAH, JUST DON'T BE ARRESTED.

SORRY.

SO I GUESS MY, LET ME CLEAR THAT UP BECAUSE WHAT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WERE THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE TO THE COURT.

I, AND I'M NOT, I DIDN'T MEAN TO COME OFF NEGATIVE TO YOU.

THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

I, I DON'T RECALL EVER BEING GIVEN AN OPTION OF HOW MUCH SUPPLEMENT WAS PAID TO THE DISTRICT JUDGES.

I BELIEVE IT WAS, I MEAN, I, I, I MEAN, PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE, IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN THAT SAME AMOUNT.

AND THEN LAST YEAR WITH 2 93, UM, WE PRESENTED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE 18,000 TO THE 25,000, AND YOU ALL DID VOTE TO INCREASE IT TO THAT AMOUNT.

AND SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE CALCULATION THEN OF WHAT THE CCL JUDGES MAKE, BECAUSE THEIRS IS TIERED BASED OFF OF DISTRICT JUDGE SALARY AS WELL.

SO THAT, THAT INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS ALL PUT TOGETHER ON A SPREADSHEET OF WHAT THE IMPACTS WERE OF, UM, SB 2 93 IS 2 93.

RIGHT? I KEEP SAYING THAT.

I THINK SO.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SO LAST YEAR WE WENT FROM 18 TO 25, CORRECT? YES.

BEFORE THAT WE HAD BEEN AT EIGHT, OR WE HAD BEEN AT 18 FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I MEAN, AS FAR BACK AS OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM GOES, OR OUR PRIOR ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS AT THAT AMOUNT.

SO THIS WAS, LAST YEAR WAS A FIRST YEAR.

WHAT I RECALL IS THERE WAS A, A BILL THAT REQUIRED US TO RAISE THE SALARIES OF THE JUDGES, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENT PART THAT WE WOULD'VE CONTROL OVER EVER.

I DON'T RECALL THAT.

SO I'LL, I'LL GO BACK TO THE, MY SAME DEAL HERE.

WHAT WE APPROVE RIGHT NOW, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, ALTER AT SOME POINT LATER.

UH, I, I, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE HAD AN, UH, ANY OPTION FOR THE DISTRICT JUDGES.

UH, I KNOW I'VE SAID THAT THREE OR THREE TIMES, BUT I, I RECALL THAT THERE WAS A BILL THAT RAISED THEIR SALARY SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, UH, LAST YEAR, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ABOUT A SUPPLEMENT.

SO IT, YES, IT WAS PRESENTED, UM, AND APPROVED.

AND THE OTHER THING AT THAT IS IT WAS ALSO EFFECTIVE NINE ONE.

AND SO WE PROVIDED A CALCULATION THAT WAY THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INCREASE EFFECTIVE NINE ONE DURING THE FISCAL YEAR BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET STARTED.

AND SO ALL OF THAT WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED BY YOU ALL.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU, BROWN.

OKAY, I'M GONNA MOVE TO A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION ENCOURAGED BY VOTE.

SO I HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH A, UM, POLICY THAT I'M ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND SO IT'S A LINE ITEM BUDGET ADJUSTMENT POLICY.

UM, SO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BRIAN ONE, OH, BRIAN, CAN I OPEN IT? OH, SORRY.

, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE AGENDA IS WE'RE ON ITEM

[II. Discuss and take action related to line-item budget adjustment policy. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

TWO.

UM, PROCEED.

ITEM BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE.

UH, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION ONE 11.010 D, UM, ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO TRANSFER AMOUNTS BETWEEN BUDGET ITEMS, UM, WITHOUT AUTHORIZING AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE.

SO, UM, EACH COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I PROVIDE YOU WITH LINE

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UM, SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS LIMITED AUTHORITY, UH, TO PROCESS BUDGET OVERRIDES FOR LINE ITEM BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE ACCOUNTING, THE COUNTY'S, UM, ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IN CERTAIN, UM, LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, SO SOMETIMES, UM, ITEMS WILL COME UP WHERE EVEN WHERE WITHOUT, UM, DOING THE BUDGET OVERRIDE, IT CAN CAUSE A DEPARTMENT TO SHUT DOWN OR, YOU KNOW, AN AC GOES OUT.

UM, IT'S NOT IN THE CORRECT GL ACCOUNT LINE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO GET THE PO SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CLOSING DOWN A WHOLE BUILDING.

UM, THERE'S, SO IT GOES THROUGH DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS IN HERE.

SO ONE IS EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES, AND SO IT INCLUDES SITUATIONS, UM, THAT REQUIRE IMMEDIATE ACTION.

SO TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HA HEALTH OR SAFETY OF THE COUNTY, PROTECT THE HEALTH OR SAFETY OF COUNTY PERSONNEL OR PREVENT OR MITIGATE DAMAGE TO COUNTY FACILITIES, EQUIPMENT, OR OTHER PROPERTY.

UM, OTHER ONE IS OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY.

AGAIN, JUST KIND OF EXPLAINING LIKE AN HVAC GOES OUT OR THERE WAS A TIME AT THE, UM, I THINK DISTRICT COURTS BUILDING WHERE BUILDING AND GROUNDS NEEDED A TOOL, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE MONEY IN THAT LINE.

BUT WITHOUT PURCHASING THAT POOL TOOL, UM, TO FIX THE AC, YOU COULD HAVE HAD THAT WHOLE BUILDING SHUT DOWN.

UM, CERTIFICATION OF REVENUE IS ANOTHER ONE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE HAS, UM, A FLEET ACCIDENT, SO SAY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE'VE RECEIVED THAT, WE HAVE THE CLAIM, WE'VE RECEIVED THE CHECK, BUT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY, IT'S BETWEEN COURTS.

SO WE HAVEN'T PROCESSED THAT CERTIFICATION OF REVENUE THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW US TO DO THE OVERRIDE TO GET THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THEM TO GO GET THE VEHICLE FIXED BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING THE FUNDS THERE.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM IS REALLOCATION BETWEEN APPROVED BUDGET LINES.

SO, UM, THIS IS CAP, NON CAP ITEMS. SO SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL WILL SET THE BUDGET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO TO BUY VEHICLES.

AND SO SAY THE VEHICLE GOES DOWN A THOUSAND AND, AND THEN, UM, THE AUTO, UM, OUTFITTING GOES UP A THOUSAND.

SO YOU'RE STILL WITHIN THAT TOTAL, BUT IT'S IN DIFFERENT LINES.

AND SO SOMETIMES THAT REQUIRES US TO WAIT THEN ANOTHER COURT TO THEN PROCESS THAT BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, OR SOMEONE WILL SUBMIT A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO SAY PURCHASE THE NEW DESK.

AND BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND GOES THROUGH COURTS AND THEN IS PUT IN THEIR BUDGET, THAT HAS INCREASED $50 AND THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER COURT TO THEN INCREASE THAT.

SO BASICALLY IT'S ALLOWING, UM, SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BECOME OPERATIONAL POLICY THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING.

I, YOU KNOW, GET UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM, OR WHEN AN AGENDA ITEM IS, UM, APPROVED AND GIVING ME THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT OVERRIDE, BASICALLY IT'S PUTTING IT A POLICY IN PLACE WHERE IT'S IN WORDS OF WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, BUT IT HAS THAT AUTHORIZATION, UM, STATED IN HERE.

SO I KNOW YOU'RE JUST SEEING IT TODAY, SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR APPROVAL, BUT, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I, I THINK WHAT KIND OF TRIGGERED IT AS WELL IS OUR NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

UM, SO ANY TIME WHERE IT'S OVER BUDGET, IT IS ROUTED TO US, THERE'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT A COMMENT IN THERE.

AND SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A POLICY THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IF EVER SOMETHING CAME BACK, BASICALLY WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION AS TO I WAS GIVEN THAT AUTHORITY, UM, TO OVERRIDE THE BUDGET FROM COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

ALL OF THESE WOULD STILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR, UM, OVERALL APPROVAL.

SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PUT THIS UNDER THE COMMON SENSE WHERE, AND, AND I RECOGNIZE PRETTY QUICKLY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM MADE THAT MORE, MORE STRINGENT, I GUESS, OR MORE DIFFICULT TO DO.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE A, A COMMON SENSE POLICY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE SO THAT IF THAT SITUATION DOES ARISE, THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO FIX IT AND THEN COME BACK FOR APPROVAL AFTER THE FACT.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE POLICY TODAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WOULD THIS ALLOW, SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE LET'S SAY WE'RE GRADING OUT A DITCH OF OUR DITCH AND WE STRIKE A CITIZEN'S MAILBOX.

UM, WOULD THIS ALLOW US TO BYPASS THAT SIGNIFICANT WAITING PERIOD IF IT HITS ON EXACTLY THE WRONG DAY AND POTENTIALLY WE'RE WAITING THREE, FOUR WEEKS BEFORE SOMETHING CAN BE PROCESSED? I THINK WE NEED TO FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED AND REALLY, I GUESS MAYBE NOT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT COMMISSIONER'S COURT ALONG WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OF WHAT THAT PROCESS IS FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY.

BECAUSE I THINK WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATION IS IS FOR EACH ONE

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OF THEM TO COME BACK TO COURT.

BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S SETTING, IF COMMISSIONER'S COURT SETS A POLICY OF OKAY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S UNDER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO THEN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY, THIS, THIS SPECIFICALLY ISN'T, AND THAT ADDRESSING THAT, UM, YEAH, WHAT, WHAT I'M, IT COULD BE IF, IF THAT'S AN APPROVAL KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THIS.

AND, AND THAT IS ONE THING I DO WANT TO STATE IN HERE AND IT'S IN HERE, IS THAT IN THESE INSTANCES, UM, IT'S MY, IT'S MY, WHICH IS SOLE AND ABSOLUTE DISCRETION AS TO IF I'M GOING TO DO IT, AND IT'S NOT BASED OFF OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD.

AND I DO WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR IN HERE THAT THEY DO HAVE TO CERTIFY, SAY IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR WHATEVER IT IS TO US, BUT IT'S NOT BASED OFF OF THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD SAYING SOMETHING, IT'S AN EMERGENCY, BUT IT'S MY DISCRETION IS IF I FEEL THAT IT'S MET THE THRESHOLD OF WHAT IS IN THIS POLICY.

AND, BUT, AND I THINK THAT IS, THAT'S SEPARATE.

I I DO THINK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

UM, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, SENT INFORMATION OF WHAT I THINK COULD BE, UM, A PROCESS THAT WE COULD FOLLOW THERE.

AND SO YOU'RE JUST WAITING ON FEEDBACK FROM JOHN ON THAT.

I I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE THAT LEFT.

WAS IT, YEAH, SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR US TO CREATE A POLICY AND THAT WAS, AND THAT'S WHY I ORIGINALLY BROUGHT IT, BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY IT WAS THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SO THEN THERE WASN'T A DECISION, I THINK AT THAT TIME IT WAS, WELL, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT, BUT UNTIL SOMETHING ELSE IS, UM, I GUESS APPROVED OF WHAT THE OPERATING POLICY WAS GONNA BE IS EACH ONE HAD TO COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT BECAUSE HERE'S THE CHALLENGE.

WE MEET THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH MONDAY OF THE MONTH.

IF SOMEONE'S MAILBOX IS STRUCK ON THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BEING, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY WAIT TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT UNTIL THE SECOND MONDAY OF THE FOLLOWING MONTH, WHICH IS A LONG TIME TO GO WITHOUT A MAILBOX.

NOW GRANTED, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S INTRICACIES WITH WAS THERE MAILBOX IN THE WRONG PLACE TO BEGIN WITH AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT IF THEIR MAILBOX WAS NOT IN THE WRONG SPOT AND WE HAD AN OPERATOR ERROR, WHICH EVERYONE'S HUMAN, THAT HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO CAPTURE THAT WE NEED TO DO A POLICY FIRST.

IF IF WE, IF THERE'S A DECISION MADE ON THAT, THEN ABSOLUTELY.

THEN AT THE THAT POINT, YES, THAT COVER UNDER THIS, THAT WOULD JUMP IN THERE.

I'LL GET, WE COULD DO THAT FROM THE TIMING PURPOSE.

DISCUSSING ACTION ON THIS.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL NO FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES ABOVE.

BILL, MOVE TO ITEM THREE ON

[III. Discuss and take any action necessary related to the leases at 1105 Santa Fe Dr. (John Forrest / Judge Deen)]

ANY ACTION NECESSARY RELATED TO THE LEASES AT 1105 SANTA FE DRIVE? UH, JOHN IS NOT HERE.

UM, I HAD ASKED FOR THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE HAVE, UM, FOR THE 1105, UM, SANTA FE LEASES, WE HAVE, UM, ONE THAT IS GOING TO EXPIRE, UM, OCTOBER 31ST, AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER THAT IS GOING TO EXPIRE ON FEBRUARY 28TH.

AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DETERMINE IS FROM THE COURT IS, IS IT YOUR INTENT TO NOT RENEW OR EXTEND ANY OF THESE LEASES? UM, SO KIND OF TWOFOLD.

ONE, WE'RE BUDGETING THE REVENUE FOR THESE LEASES, SO WE WANNA ENSURE THAT WE'RE BUDGETING THAT CORRECTLY.

AND THEN TWO THAT WAY, UM, THE NOTIFICATION TO THE TENANTS, UM, ONCE WE HIT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WINDOW THAT THOSE LETTERS CAN BE SENT TO THOSE, UM, TENANTS.

HOW MANY TENANTS ARE THERE? TWO.

TWO, OKAY.

UM, WHO ARE THEY? THE HOSPICE AND THEN THE OTHER TENANTS? UM, IT IS, UH, SOLARIS AND QUEST.

I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS WAS NOT TO PUT THE COUNTY IN AS A LANDLORD AND, AND PURCHASE A PROPERTY AND CONTINUE THAT, ALTHOUGH THAT'S I GUESS THE, AN OPTION.

BUT FOR SPACE, IT'S GONNA BE NEEDED.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE, THE ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE IN THIS COUNTY IS UNLIMITED SPACE IN A GROWING COUNTY.

AND, UM, SO THAT OCTOBER 31ST AND FEBRUARY 28TH IS WHEN THOSE TWO WOULD EXPIRE COMPLETE.

AUDIENCE, UM, TO OVERSEE THAT PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THEM INTO THAT FACILITY, IS WHAT THE COURT APPROVED ON THAT SIDE OF IT.

AND THEN I WOULD LEAVE THAT, THAT OTHER WING OPEN.

UH, WE ARE WITHIN A WEEK LESS OF THE, UH, JUVENILE BOARD BEING MOVED IN AND HAS HAVE THAT COMPLETE.

AND I'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH ASHLEY ON THIS, UH, WHO'S IN THE

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WE STILL HAVE THE CENTERPIECE OF THAT FACILITY AND THEN THE TWO THAT THEN OCCUPY THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING.

BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IN THE COURT, AND, AND OPEN THIS UP YOUR DISCUSSION, BUT IT WAS NOT, MY, MY THOUGHT WAS IS WE CONTINUE, UH, AS A, A LANDLORD AND, AND KEEPING THOSE LEASES IN PLACE, BUT YET UTILIZING THOSE FOR SPACE THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED FOR OTHER THINGS.

IS THAT, AM I UNDER UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE NEED TO NOT BE LEASING PROPERTY OUT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING ASKING IS DO WE CONTINUE THOSE LEASES OR NOT? CORRECT.

I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

ARE THOSE 3000 FOOT SPACES OR DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF 'EM? UM, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON THIS SHEET.

I WAS, I WAS THINKING IT WAS AROUND 6,000 FEET ON THAT, THAT I'M NOT SURE PART OF IT.

COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT OF THAT.

WELL, IN MY, IN MY MIND, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO MONTH TO MONTH OR WHAT THE, THE SITUATION IS WITH THE TENANTS, BUT I THINK IF THE COUNTY HAS SPACE, I KNOW THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY GROWING AND WE NEED SPACE.

BUT IF IT'S POTENTIALLY ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, AND WE HAVE IN THIS CASE AN ASSET THAT COULD GENERATE CASH FLOW TO THE COUNTY TO HELP US, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO KEEPING A TENANT IN THE SPACE.

I AM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE ALWAYS FIGHTING OVER SQUARE FOOTAGE AND, AND SPACE IN THE COUNTY.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO BOTH AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT, WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND AND GET TO THE DISCUSSION BASE? I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISCONTINUE.

I'LL SECOND IT JUST TO BE FOR THE DISCUSSION PHASE.

UM, SAY THAT, SAY THAT AGAIN, WAS A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISCONTINUE THOSE TWO LEASES.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, A AGAIN, WE HAVE OTHER, I THINK WITHOUT LISTING WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT UNDERSTAND THOSE FIRSTHAND.

OBVIOUSLY.

UM, WE HAVE GROWING DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

UH, WE'RE SPENDING, ONE EXAMPLE IS A-J-J-E-P WITH A ROUGHLY 60,000 A YEAR PAYMENT TO THAT LEASE.

AND THEN A DEMAND FOR A, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? WHAT IS IT? IT IS FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO DO.

AND THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO, EXCUSE ME, TO MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY THAT'S IN WILLOW PARK.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PAYING THAT.

THAT'S AN OPTION.

AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SEVERAL OUT THERE, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND ON THIS AS YOU, UH, MOVE TO A VOTE HERE IN A MOMENT.

IN A MOMENT.

BUT THEN AGAIN, THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, UH, WE HAVE A PENDING POTENTIALLY ANOTHER DISTRICT COURT AT SOME POINT, WHETHER THAT HAPPENS OR MATERIALIZES, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS ON THIS AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT REVENUE COMMISSIONER.

I THINK YOU, YOU YOUR GOOD POINT WITH THAT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A 10,000 FOOT DOWN CONCEPT AS TO WHAT THIS COUNTY NEEDS IN TERMS OF SPACE FOR ITS GROWING DEPARTMENTS.

JUDGE, CAN I THROW AN ID OUT THERE? AND THE, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE MAY KICK ME IN THE SHIN AS SOON AS I SUGGEST IT.

BECKY, DON'T START GLARING AT ME ALREADY.

OR PER COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S SUGGESTION, AND THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT A BROADER NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF ALL LOCATIONS AND ALL STAFF.

UM, BUDGET COMMITTEE'S BEEN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE IN MY OPINION.

WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY HEAVY HITTERS ON THAT COMMITTEE AND, AND I THINK, UM, WITH THEIR BRAIN POWER AND ME NOT GETTING IN THE WAY TOO MUCH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY DARN EFFECTIVE.

I'D LOVE TO SEE US OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, GET A LIST OF ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS, SQUARE FOOTAGE, GET A LIST OF ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA, AND MATCH UP SOME OF THESE NEEDS ANALYSES WITH THAT SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT LOCATIONS LIKE THIS, WHERE WE'RE, WE OWN THIS BUILDING NOW, BUT WE'RE LEASING IT OUT TO THIRD PARTIES.

I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME OFFICES, SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE COULD PUT OVER THERE AND UTILIZE THAT SPACE PRETTY EFFECTIVELY.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S SPOT ON.

I'M NOT A BIG FAN.

AND WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY GROUPS THAT NEED SO MUCH MORE ROOM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT TWO, I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S BASICALLY USING BUNK BEDS WHERE HE HAS GUYS SITTING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

UM, THESE ARE CLOSET SIZED OFFICES WITH JUST NO ROOM AT ALL.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE DISCONTINUE THE LEASE PER MR

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE ASK COMMISSIONER HALE TO VISIT WITH THOSE TENANTS AND SEE WHERE, WHAT THEIR, UH, PLANS ARE, WHAT THEIR INTENT IS.

WE DON'T, WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY'RE INTENDING TO CONTINUE THE LEASE OR IF THEY WOULD CONTINUE ON A SHORT TERM MONTH BY MONTH BASIS UNTIL, UNTIL WE COME UP WITH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THOSE FACILITIES.

I, I THINK THAT'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE I MADE A DECISION.

I'M, I'M MORE IN LINE WITH THAT WAY OF THINKING BECAUSE IF THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE AN INTENT TO RENEW THE LEASE AND THEY'RE GONNA MOVE OUT, DOESN'T MOVE MOOT MO, THEN IT'S MOOT POINT.

BUT IF WE COULD GO TO MONTH TO MONTH OR SIX MONTH LEASE, I AND THERE'S REVENUE BEING GENERATED THERE.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A BAD THING, COMMISSIONER PALM, BUT I, BUT, BUT I AGREE WITH SORRY, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE A FOCUS GROUP FROM A 30,000 FOOT 10,000 FOOT IN REAL ESTATE PLANNING.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WORKED REAL HARD ON THIS JUSTICE CENTER, I CAME UP WITH A BACKUP PLAN AND IT ALL STARTS WITH WHENEVER WE ADD ANOTHER DISTRICT COURT.

AND THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER.

AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REAL ESTATE.

SO YES, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT A COMMITTEE, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED A GROUP THAT'S FOCUSED ON PLANNING AND WHERE THIS REAL ESTATE'S GOING AND NOT JUST WHO'S THE QUICKEST TO GRAB THE NEWEST WHAT I WOULD FOOTAGE THAT COMES AVAILABLE.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS, IS THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE, UH, AGENDA UNDER REAL ESTATE TO DISCUSS THIS TO WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED.

I I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

THIS IS OCTOBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, CORRECT? FEBRUARY 28TH OF NEXT YEAR.

SO I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT WE'RE NOT, THIS ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION ARBITRARILY AND JUST USE THAT FACILITY SO IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND GO MONTH TO MONTH IF THEY WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER WALDEN THAT, UH, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT AND TALK WITH THEM.

AND, AND COME BACK TO THIS COURT.

I REMOVED MY SECOND ON THIS.

UM, I'LL, UH, I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S MOTION, IF HE WILL REVISE IT TO BE EITHER DISCONTINUE OR GO MONTH TO MONTH.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD DO A SIX MONTH COMMITMENT, BUT I THINK MONTH TO MONTH OR DISCONTINUE I'D BE, I'D BE FINE WITH, WE CAN CHANGE THIS AT ANY TIME.

SO TO BE CLEAR, THIS, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS A LEASES THAT WE INHERITED WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.

THESE ARE NOT LEASES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE.

AND SO, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A, UH, NOTIFICATION? IS THERE AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? UH, HAS ANYBODY READ THE LEASE AND DOES ANYBODY TELL ME THE ANSWER THAT YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE THE ONE THAT HAD SEVERAL RENEWAL TERMS AT THE TIME WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING, THEY WERE, THEY EXITED THAT LEASE.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ONE, WHICH IT CAME BEFORE THE COURT, I BELIEVE THEY EXITED IN APRIL.

AND SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, JOHN AND I WERE HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

I SAID, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE IN INTENT OF THE COURT.

THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S NOT SENDING SOME SORT OF LETTER OR DISCUSSING WITH THE TENANT IF THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE, I BET THEY ALREADY KNOW COURT.

THEY PROBABLY DO.

THEY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW AND THEY PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE PLANS TO LEAVE AND THEY YES.

AND I WOULD IMAGINE WITH THESE FACILITIES, THEY PROBABLY DO, BUT JUST THAT WAY THE LEASE MAY HAVE PROVISIONS THAT REQUIRE US TO SEND A, A LETTER TO THEM, UH, NOTIFYING THEM OR IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

WE NEED TO FIND THAT OUT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THESE AUTOMATICALLY RENEW.

I THINK THESE ONES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THEIR RENEWAL TERMS. CAN I, CAN I ASK, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT.

BRIAN, WOULD YOU COME UP, UH, JUST AGAIN, BRIAN IS ONE OF THE ROLES THAT BRIAN DOES IS, UH, ASSIST WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND, UM, WOULD YOU, SO, AND GIVE YOU YOUR IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAVE AN INVENTORY OF ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY OWNS, THAT INCLUDES YOUR PRECINCT BARNS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

O THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF THOSE INVENTORIES AS WELL.

UM, I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

COMMISSIONER HALE, UM, I'VE ALSO HAD TO NEGOTIATE LEASES WITH TENANTS IN MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT, SO I CAN HELP YOU WITH, WITH THAT AS WELL.

MY EXPERIENCE IS GONNA BE IF WE'VE ALREADY, IF THEIR LEASE IS UP OCTOBER 31, IT'S A, THIS ISN'T A HOUSE, THIS IS A BUSINESS.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A PLAN TO MOVE THEIR BUSINESS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET .

I THINK WE NEED TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT THEIR INTENT IS

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FOR SURE.

UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT, I CAN PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS END OF DAY.

TODAY.

TODAY IS THIS A A MOON DAY OR A I'M KIDDING.

I'M KIDDING.

UM, BUT YEAH, I CAN, I CAN PUT AN ASSESSMENT TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS.

THIS WON'T BE A FULL DETAILED NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BUT IT'LL BE YOUR 30,000 OR REVIEW.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.

WELL, MY SECOND IS CONTINGENT ON IF COMMISSIONER CONLEY AGREES TO GO MONTH TO MONTH AS AN OPTION.

I AGREE.

AND WE CAN CHANGE THIS IF, UH, THERE'S A, A PROBLEM WITH THEIR LEASE.

COMMISSIONER WALDEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THIS? WE GO TO A VOTE.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS.

, CAN WE DISCONTINUE OR GO MONTH TO MONTH? YEAH, I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, UH, WHICHEVER IS FINE.

THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.

I'M SURE THEY DO.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO NEGOTIATE A MONTH TO MONTH WITH THEM.

SOUNDS THAT WAY.

ALL IN A FAVOR, CARRIE? FIVE.

TO ITEM FIVE ON PRESENT, DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FFY 26 27, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRESENT.

MOVE TO ITEM FOUR.

ORDER 26 SLASH 37 FOR THE, UH, NEVERMIND.

THAT'S NON, UH, NO ACTION ON THAT ONE.

I'M SORRY.

MOVE

[V.A. Present/Discuss/Approve General Fund Budget for FY2026-2027. (Bianca Lord / Judge Deen)]

DISCUSS APPROVED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR 26 27.

BIANCA, GOOD MORNING.

SO I DID PROVIDE THE COURT A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, AS OF AUGUST 17TH.

UM, WHICH LIST ARE YOU ON? THIS ONE? THIS LIST ON THAT.

IT'S THE SMALLER PAGE.

DO YOU WANT ME TO START AT THE BEGINNING OR AT EIGHT 17? WHAT WAS APPROVED IN LAST COURT? WELL, I THINK WE CAN READ IT.

I THINK PROBABLY JUST SUMMARIZE IT.

I READ JUST A SUMMARY OF IT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU, YEAH, IF YOU COULD SUMMARIZE THIS FOR US TOTALLY.

NOT NECESSARILY GOING LINE BY LINE WOULD BE GREAT.

NOT GOING LINE BY LINE? NO, JUST GO.

JUST THE SUMMARY.

JUST GO BY THE SUMMARY OF EACH ONE.

SO THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED THUS FAR ARE, UM, 3,561,500.

UM, I DIDN'T CATCH THE AMOUNT FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, BUT I COULD HAVE ADDED THAT TO A TOTAL.

BUT, UM, SO THEN THE UH, DEPARTMENTAL OPERATING EXPENSE ADJUSTMENT TOTAL THUS FAR IS FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO CAP, NON CAP IT AND IT ADJUSTMENTS IS $871,655.

THEN WE HAVE THE NEW EMPLOYEE CAP, NON CAP AND IT REQUEST AND IE $2,725.

THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THUS FAR.

THAT TOTALS TO 4,927,162 AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE.

JUST AS A NOTE, UM, ALITO, WHEN I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED, WE DID NOT OFFICIALLY APPROVE THE ALITO BUDGET.

WE DO HAVE THE ILLEGAL LIBRARY HERE TO PRESENT MORE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU REQUESTED.

SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT LATER.

ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? OKAY.

THANK YOU ABIEL.

B, GENERAL BUDGET UPDATES.

WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT AT THIS POINT.

I, UNDER ITEM

[V.B. General Budget Updates. (Bianca Lord / Judge Deen)]

BIANCA, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT YOU WANT? OKAY, MOVE

[V.C. Public Services Budget Requests. (Bianca Lord / Judge Deen)]

TO ITEM C ON THE PUBLIC SERVICES BUDGET REQUEST.

YOU SAID WE HAVE THE ALITO LIBRARY IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RESIDENCY BASED, WHAT PERCENT OF THE PATRONS AND WHAT PERCENT OF THE CHECKOUTS ARE COMPRISED OF NON COUNTY CITY OF ALITO, UM, PARKER COUNTY CITIES, WHICH ARE DEFINED BELOW AS CITY OF HUDSON OAKS, CITY OF WILLOW PARK, CITY OF WEATHERFORD, AND THE AN, UM, AND THEN UNINCORPORATED PARKER COUNTY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

WHAT ERICA JUST PASSED OUT.

UM, JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT'S ON THE DOCUMENTS.

UH, WE'VE GOT THE NUMBER OF ALITO PUBLIC LIBRARY CARDHOLDERS, BORROWING PHYSICAL ITEMS OVER TIME, SO OVER THE LAST DECADE BASICALLY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HAS DRASTICALLY INCREASED.

AND THEN THE NUMBER OF PHYSICAL ITEMS BORROWED.

SO THAT'S NOT, SO THE FIRST ONE IS WHO'S BORROWING STUFF, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BORROWING STUFF, AND THEN HOW MUCH ARE THEY BORROWING? AND THEN ON THAT THIRD PAGE, I HAVE THE PERCENT, UM, THAT EACH OF THOSE THINGS TAKES UP OF THE, SORRY,

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UH, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW NOT ONLY HAS USE INCREASED GREATLY OVER TIME, BUT THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT USE, THE RESIDENCY PROPORTIONS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME AS WELL.

UM, WE DO SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE STARTS AROUND THE TIME THAT WEATHERFORD STARTED CHARGING THE NON-RESIDENT FEES.

UM, AND THEN ON THAT LAST PAGE, WE JUST, I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSION, UH, LAST TIME ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WERE REQUESTING.

OF COURSE WE'D LOVE TO HAVE CONTINUED SUPPORT, UM, OF THE 22 7 70, BUT IDEALLY WE WOULD SEE THAT INCREASED BY THE 55% THAT OUR SERVICE POPULATION HAS BEEN INCREASED BY THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION.

UM, AND I THINK THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS ALSO SUPPORT.

WE'RE JUST SEEING GROWTH IN GENERAL.

AND THEN I DID PROVIDE NUMBERS ABOUT OUR, UM, DVD AND BLU-RAYS IN TERMS OF, THEY'RE ABOUT 10.7% OF OUR PHYSICAL ITEM COLLECTION AND THEY MAKE UP ABOUT 4.2% OF THE CIRCULATION.

SO THEY'RE, LIKE I SAID, NOT AS POPULAR AS THE BOOKS AND AUDIO BOOKS.

UM, I ALSO HAVE A LIST OF THOSE DVDS IF, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT.

IT'S 28 PAGES, SO I DIDN'T PRINT IT FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT IF YOU ARE CURIOUS WHAT THOSE ARE, UM, MS. GORMAN, CAN I ASK A, MAYBE THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION.

SO THIS, THIS LAST BAR IS ROUGHLY 10 MONTHS OUT OF A 12 MONTH YEAR FOR FISCAL 26 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE PERFECTLY.

BUT I SEE A BIG JUMP IN THE GREEN PORTION, WHICH IS, I'M, I'M READING TO BE THE UNINCORPORATED SPOT.

SO YES, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 23 WE HAD ALMOST 724, WE HAD 7 50, 25, WE HAD SEVEN 40 AND 10 MONTHS OUT OF 26 WE HAVE 10 50.

I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG JUMP.

WE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS DRIVING THAT? UM, WE SAW A HUGE INCREASE IN OUR CIRCULATION WHEN WE MOVED INTO OUR NEW BUILDING.

UM, ALL AROUND, LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD CIRCULATION JUMPED HUGE.

WE WERE HITTING OUR SUMMER NUMBERS AND NORMALLY SUMMERS, PEAK MONTHS.

AND WE WERE LIKE, OH DEAR.

SO WE ACTUALLY GOT CONCERNED AND CHANGED OUR STAFFING PLANS FOR THIS PAST SUMMER.

AND I HAVE NOT DONE A MONTH OVER MONTH COMPARISON POST SUMMER YET TO SEE, I BELIEVE SUMMER STILL DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AS WELL.

SO I THINK WE ARE JUST SEEING MORE USE PEOPLE LIKE THE NEW SPACE.

UH, CAN I, THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE THE OTHER NUMBERS ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 20 TO 25% IT LOOKS LIKE IN JUMP.

AND MY MATH MAY BE A LITTLE WONKY THERE, BUT THIS ONE'S MORE LIKE A 33 OR PERCENT JUMP, MAYBE MORE, I DON'T KNOW.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A BIG JUMP.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD A REASON WHY I, CAN I ADD TO THAT BEFORE YOU ANSWER, I JUST, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLDEN GIVES A VERY ACT VERY CLEAR QUESTION TO YOU.

UH, IN LOOKING AT THE COMPARATIVE ON THE OTHER ENTITIES, THE UNINCORPORATED VERSUS NON COUNTY, THE CITY, UM, PARKER COUNTY CITIES, HUDSON OAKS, ET CETERA.

UM, THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE GROWTH OF, OF, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WITH THIS IS YOUR, ON YOUR RESPONSE, THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE GROWTH OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS IS DRAMATIC COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.

AND WHEN YOU SAY YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE YOU MOVED INTO YOUR NEW FACILITY, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN YOUR OLD BUILDING.

IT WAS A STANDALONE WHERE IT, IT WAS A LIBRARY AND NOW THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT INTO YOUR NEW CITY HALL WHERE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ADVERTISER OR THE EXPOSURE THAT IT DID BEFORE.

SO I'M, I'M A BIT CONFUSED OF THAT.

SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT IS.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T, I MEAN I THINK THAT WITH THE NEW LIBRARY SPACE WE HAVE, I MEAN YES, THAT HAS INCREASED IN THE UNINCORPORATED BY A LOT COMPARATIVELY.

UM, HOWEVER, I DO THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR IN THAT NEW SPACE, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE ADVERTISING.

PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THE LIBRARY IS FOR THE MOST PART.

UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GIVE YOU MORE CLARITY, MAYBE LOOKING AT MORE NUMBERS.

UM, BUT THAT AGAIN IS OUR BEST, OUR BEST GUESS.

DO YOU CHARGE, AND I SHOULD KNOW THIS, THIS MAY BE A DUMB QUESTION TOO.

DO YOU CHARGE NON, UH, CITY RESIDENCE UNINCORPORATED RESIDENCE? WE, WE DO NOT.

UM, WE ONLY GIVE CARDS TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PARKER COUNTY OR ALITO ISD.

THEY'RE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA, THEY JUST DON'T GET, AND THEN WITHIN THE AREA, WE STILL CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE LIKE NATIVELY SERVING PARKER COUNTY AND ALITO ISD.

SO WE DON'T CHARGE AS LONG AS

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DO YOU PROVIDE DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAN YOU DID BEFORE IN YOUR OLD BUILDING NOW THAT YOU ARE IN YOUR NEW BUILDING? IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE RESOURCES WE'VE BEEN OFFERING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, INCREASING NUMBERS OF PROGRAMS AND HAVE BEEN, UM, GROWING OUR COLLECTION AS BEST WE CAN.

BUT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN HOW THAT IS LAID OUT.

AND WE JUST, UM, PASSED OUR BUDGET AND WE'LL BE INCREASING THE BOOK BUDGET A BIT THIS YEAR AS WELL.

SO THAT WILL BE AN INCREASE, BUT IT WILL BE.

SO TO BE CLEAR WITH THIS, YOUR, YOUR CURRENT IS 20 2007 70 HAS BEEN THE DONATION.

YOU'RE ASKING NOW 35,003 11? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO JUST FOR MY INFORMATION, HOW MUCH IS YOUR TOTAL BUDGET OR FOR NEXT YEAR? WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL BUDGET? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION ABOUT, UM, IT'S ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS 350,000 SOMETHING WITH SOME CHANGE.

I CAN GET A CLEAR NUMBER ON THAT IF YOU WANT.

SO WHERE, WHAT ARE YOUR FUNDING SOURCES? UH, WHERE'S THE MONEY COME FROM TO FUND YOUR BUDGET? ALL UH, GENERAL FUND OF ALITO, CORRECT? YES.

ABOUT, AND IT'S ABOUT, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THE NUMBER THERE.

YOU'RE TYPING, I'M LOOKING FOR IT.

AND DO YOU STILL GET DONATIONS FROM THE OTHER CITIES AS WELL? HUDSON OAK? WE HAVE NOT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, HUDSON OAKS, OUR MAYOR HAS BEEN TALKING TO THEM AND TRYING TO GET THAT SUPPORT.

UM, BUT, BUT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS THEY HAVE NOT.

SO, WELL, HUDSON OAKS, WILLOW PARK HAS NOT.

AND LIKELY THE ANNETTE IS CERTAINLY, UH, PROBABLY IS NOT IN A FINANCIAL POSITION TO DO SO.

UH, YEAH.

WHY WOULDN'T THE OTHER CITIES DONATE SOMETHING? I CAN SPEAK FOR S AND OS AT THAT TIME WE WERE ASKING FOR CAN YOU PROVIDE A LIST OF, OF THE HUDSON OAKS RESIDENCE THAT DO, UH, FREQUENT THAT LIBRARY AND THAT DATA WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

SO WE DIDN'T FUND FOR THAT INTEREST.

WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR THAT.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR IT TODAY, BUT I KNOW SOME OF THE CITIES OF BRYAN YOU CAN SPEAK ON WILLOW PARK IF, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR NOT FUNDING THAT? WE DIDN'T FEEL AT THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORD.

THE TAXPAYER.

SO SOME NUMBERS, SOME FOR THE COURT, JUST SOME QUICK MATH.

AT A FUNDING OF THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF 35,311, THAT WOULD BREAK DOWN TO ABOUT 33 AND A HALF BUCKS PER PARKER COUNTY UNINCORPORATED RESIDENT WHO USES THEIR SERVICES AT THE EXPIRING AMOUNT, THAT WOULD BE 2170 PER UNINCORPORATED RESIDENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS AT THE INCREASED AMOUNT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A DOLLAR 63 PER UNINCORPORATED RESIDENT PER ITEM.

AND IT WOULD BE ABOUT A DOLLAR OH FIVE AT THE EXPIRING AMOUNT PER UNINCORPORATED ITEM PER RESIDENT.

SO BASICALLY Y'ALL ARE ASKING FOR ABOUT 12 AND A HALF THOUSAND MORE.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT QUITE HALF, BUT A LITTLE UNDER HALF OF YOUR TOTAL USAGE.

SO IF WE DO 10 50 PLUS 6, 24 PLUS 6 34 PLUS.

AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER IF YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY 30 OR 40 OF THE NON COUNTY AT ALL RESIDENTS.

THE ORANGE ON THIS, ON THIS PIE CHART RIGHT HERE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF THAT ORANGE RIGHT THERE? THE NON COUNTY, IT'S NOT MARKED.

IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 30.

IT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION.

IT, IT'S UM, CITY EMPLOYEES WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF ALLOWED.

AND THEN ALSO OCCASIONALLY ALITO ISD PEOPLE ARE NOT IN COUNTY.

IT'S A VERY WEIRD DISTRICT.

YOU MENTIONED YOUR BUDGET BEFORE.

UH, THE CITY OF ALITO PROVIDES ROUGHLY AROUND 400,000 IN FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARY.

SO YOUR BUDGET IS WELL ABOVE THE YES.

THE BUDGET, UM, IS $347,001.

I'M GONNA, FOR THE LIBRARY, I'M GONNA, HOW MANY PAID EMPLOYEES DO Y'ALL HAVE? WE HAVE TWO FULL-TIME AND FIVE PART-TIME THAT ARE ALL PAID.

SEVEN, FIVE.

SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

YOU GOT TWO, TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THEN THAT ARE PAID ABOUT FIVE PART-TIME AND THE PART-TIMES ARE PAID OFF.

WE, WE ALSO GIVE MONEY TO SPRINGTOWN LIBRARY, I BELIEVE, AND AZEL AND THE AZEL LIBRARY, I BELIEVE.

SO, SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IS TRYING TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE.

UH,

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SO AND DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THOSE AMOUNTS? UH, COMMISSIONER ING? WELL WE, BECKY PROBABLY HAS THEM.

AZEL WAS $5,072.

SPRINGTOWN WAS $18,320.

SO THAT'S, I MEAN, OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN YOUR NUMBERS, WHICH ARE GREAT.

Y'ALL DID, YOU DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR HERE.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TOO.

THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THAT UP.

SO CAN I CIRCLE BACK? 'CAUSE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ON THE LAST COURT, AND YOU CAN REFRESH MY MEMORY ON, UH, IF YOU HAD ANY OR I, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SAID YOU WERE WORKING ON ESTABLISHING A FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY TYPE PROGRAM TO HELP SUPPORT MM-HMM .

CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT? YES.

WE, WE HAVE A FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY GROUP, UM, THAT HAS BASICALLY TAKEN OVER BOOK SALES AND IS EXPLORING THINGS TO DO IN TERMS OF FUNDRAISING EVENTS, THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, THEY'RE CONSIDERED TO SUPPLEMENT OPERATIONS NOT TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS.

SO THEY ALLOW US TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.

SO LIKE HISTORICALLY, THE, THE PAST YEAR OR TWO, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE BOUGHT EXTRA, UM, END OF YEAR PRIZE DRAWING PRIZES FOR SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

THEY ALSO ARE PRETTY NEW AS WELL, I BELIEVE TWO YEARS NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN YEAH.

A GROUP.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE UNINCORPORATED, UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 45% OF THE USERS.

I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS WE BROUGHT LAST TIME, 73% OF OUR CAR CARD HOLDERS ARE PARKER COUNTY, NOT CITY OF ALITO.

AND THEN 43% OF THAT ARE UNINCORPORATED, NOT 43% OF THE 73 43.

OH, I AGREE WITH 40% TOTAL.

WE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO 35,000.

WELL, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT ONCE, ONCE WE ALLOCATE THIS FUNDING, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PULL IT BACK.

AND, AND, UH, THERE'S, THERE ARE FOLKS OUT HERE WHO, UH, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME CONTACT ME THAT DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING TO THESE, THESE, UH, ENTITIES LIKE THIS.

SO I JUST, THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A VARIETY OF OPINIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH AND WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO THAT ARE NOT, THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE, THE WONDERFUL INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR US TODAY ARE THE WONDERFUL SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.

SO ALL THOSE ARE FACTORS THAT COME IN A DECISION THAT WE MAKE LIKE THIS.

AND UH, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD SEEM RATHER SIMPLE TO, TO DO THE MATH ON HERE AND, AND SAY THIS IS THE USAGE, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING, UH, IT'S A KIND OF A TOUGH, TOUGH LINE THAT WE FOLLOW HERE TO, TO LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORS THAT ARE THERE.

SO I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I'M NOT GIVING YOU AN ANSWER.

I'M JUST THROWING YOU ALL THE FACTORS OUT HERE TO KNOW.

IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS JUST THIS IS THE USAGE AND THIS IS HOW MUCH WE SHOULD BE, BE CONTRIBUTING ACCORDING TO THE MAN.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT MANDATED TO GIVE THEM ANYTHING.

AND THAT, I GET REMINDED OF THAT PRETTY OFTEN, UH, FROM, FROM FOLKS OUT IN THERE, UH, UH, THAT ARE CONSTITUENTS, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE 'EM IS IT AN R HE THAT'S REMINDING YOU OF THAT? MOST OF THE TIME I CAN EITHER CONFIRM NOR DENY THAT.

BUT MR. HEER, MR. MR. HEISER, I'M SURE BELIEVES IN IN EDUCATION.

I LIKE THAT NEW WORD ARCHIVE.

OF ALITO, WE HAVEN'T, UM, REACHED OUT TO THOSE.

SO, UH, PERSONALLY, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE WITH THE 22 7 7 0 AND CONSIDER GOING UP THIS YEAR AS WELL.

I'D BE FINE WITH THAT.

ALSO, I WOULD ONLY BE FINE WITH GOING UP TO THE 35 UNDER THE CONDITION THAT NEXT YEAR WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE 22.

BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD ASK OF Y'ALL IS PLEASE GO TO THOSE OTHER CITIES DURING THIS NEXT CALENDAR YEAR AND PUT, GIVE THEM, UM, GIVE THEM THIS INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, GO TO WILLOW PARK AND HUDSON OAKS AND SOME OF THOSE AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE HERE BECAUSE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR RESIDENTS OR OF YOUR RESIDENTS ARE USING OUR SERVICES.

AND THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE.

THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION IS WE DO THE 35 3 1 1 ON A ONE TIME ONLY BASIS WITH NEXT YEAR RETURNING TO EXPIRING 22 7 7 0.

HAS THE CITY SEEN THIS NEW DATA? BECAUSE I KNOW BACK WHEN I WAS WITH HUDSON OAKS, Y'ALL WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO Y'ALL HAVE NOT PRESENTED THIS TO THE CITIES.

YEAH, SINCE, SINCE THE LIBRARY HAS COME UNDER THE CITY

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WE, AGAIN, THE ANTOS AND PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST HAVE CONTRIBUTED.

UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THE OTHER CITIES.

I DO KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING OUR NEW CITY MANAGER WANTS TO DO, IS TO STRENGTHEN THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AROUND US.

SO IT JUST, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE.

I JUST, I THINK, AND, AND I I THINK COMMISSIONER HOLT MAKES A, A GOOD OPTION THERE.

I, I JUST, MY CONCERN FROM BEING WITH A PREVIOUS CITY, I THINK, I THINK THAT WE, WE, WE HOLD TO THAT 22 AND THEN LOOK AT THE MORE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WITH THESE CITIES BECAUSE YES, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS GROWING, BUT SO IS THE CITIES AS WELL.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S PEOPLE FROM WILLOW PARK, HUDSON OAKS, UM, THE ANAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS.

BUT FOR US TO, TO GO UP AND TAKE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SHARE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE NEED TO, TO COLLABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE, WITH THE CITIES ON THIS AS WELL.

BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING DRAMATICALLY.

ESPECIALLY WILLOW PARK COMMISSIONER HALE.

YOU GOT, I I TEND TO AGREE WITH WHAT, UH, JUDGE DEAN JUST SAID.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS BEFORE THAT CITY ALL WAS BUILT AND THE LIBRARY WAS MOVED OVER THERE, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BUDGET.

UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SHOULD STEP UP.

I'M IN FAVOR OF HOLDING THE BUDGET THE SAME THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD.

BUT I ALSO LIKE, AND, AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WALDEN HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY PROGRAM.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COURT, WE HAD A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE POLICY WITH THE FRIENDS TO HELP FUND.

WE WE DO.

UH, THERE'S NOT A FEE BEING PAID.

WE, WE HAVE, WE'VE OFFERED THAT, UH, THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED BECAUSE THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY HAS THEIR OWN FUNDS FOR THIS.

BUT IF, OKAY, IF ANYBODY THAT, UH, IN, IN THE WEATHERFORD UH, CITY OF WEATHERFORD LIBRARY, UH, THEY CHARGE A $50 FEE FOR OUTSIDE OF THE CITY USAGE AND THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, UH, HAVE STEPPED UP AND, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED TO PAY THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS EVER, UH, ACTUALLY DONE THAT OR NOT, UH, FROM THEM.

'CAUSE I HAVEN'T VISITED WITH THEM IN A WHILE ABOUT THAT.

HOWEVER, IT'S, IT IS AVAILABLE SHOULD THEY DO THAT.

BUT, UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS, IS I HAVE, I HAVE, UH, PERSONALLY REFERRED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TO ALITO, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE LIBRARY, THE SERVICES THERE, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE FREE.

AND UH, BUT THE QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK IS, UM, SINCE YOU NOW ARE, AND I I THINK THAT WAS DURING LAST YEAR THAT YOU MOVED UNDER THE CITY OF ALITO.

UH, IT WAS OCTOBER 24.

OCTOBER.

SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.

OCTOBER, OCTOBER OF 24.

SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.

UM, I I I SUSPECT THAT THE, THE CITY OF ALITO HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT Y'ALL HAVE SINCE THAT LIKE HOW MUCH, LIKE A WHOLE LOT, UH, SINCE WE TOOK THEM OVER WHEN THEY WERE EAST PARKER COUNTY LIBRARY FROM BECOMING EAST PARKER COUNTY TO BECOMING CITY OF ALITO LIBRARY.

YES, THE BUDGET DID INCREASE.

AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY STAFFING.

TO, TO THAT POINT, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU BUDGET 389,000 NOW? UH, 47 47.

3 47.

3 47, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU FUNDED WHEN IT WAS A SEPARATE STANDALONE? 40,000.

THE CITY, THE CITY CONTRIBUTED 40,000.

SO Y'ALL, WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UNDER HOUSE, YOU SIGNIFICANTLY RAISED THAT BUDGET.

SO THE CITY'S CITY'S BUMPED IT UP $307,000 SINCE, SINCE THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TOO.

UH, SO YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION I GUESS NOW.

THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? THANK Y'ALL FOR, I MEAN, YOU PROVIDED DRAMATICALLY WHAT YOU GAVE US EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO, SO DO IS IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? NO, NO AHEAD.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, WE APPROVE THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT BUDGET THAT WE'VE, THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HILL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL OF FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES BY VOTE.

THANK YOU ALLALL VERY MUCH.

AND THANK Y'ALL FOR GETTING THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I KNOW THAT HAD TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

LIBRARY? FOR THE WEATHERFORD LIBRARY? IT'S FOR THE FRIENDS.

BIANCA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PUBLIC SERVICES WE NEED TO ADDRESS? YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.

LAST YEAR WE DESIGNATED OR BUDGETED $500 IN THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM DO WE STILL WANNA KEEP THAT AMOUNT? OR UNDER THE

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WAS THAT, WAS THAT THE AMOUNT? I THOUGHT IT WAS 50,000 BEFORE.

DID WE DROP IT TO 500 LAST YEAR? I REMEMBER US HAVING, WE DID SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSIONS 'CAUSE WE BUDGETED 50 TO MATCH ANY REQUESTS, AS I RECALL.

BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AS OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD NEVER HAD A SINGLE REQUEST.

NOT ANY.

WE, I THINK THE DECISION WAS TO DECREASE IT TO 500 IN THE EVENT WE STARTED ACTIVITY THAT WE WOULD MOVE FUNDS FROM CONTINGENCY TO THAT ONE.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THE SAME THING.

I'M, I'M ON MOVE THAT WE DO THE SAME.

ITEM D AND CAP AND NON CAP AND BUDGET AND REQUEST.

COMMISSIONER WALTERS MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT COMMISSIONER HOL HAS MADE THE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? JUST TO COMMENT, I I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EACH TIME.

UM, BUT, UH, THE, UH, NOBODY SUPPORTS LIBRARIES MORE THAN ME.

NO.

HOWEVER, UH, THERE HAS TO BE A LIMIT SOMEWHERE ON, ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT ON THESE, THESE, THESE TYPES OF, UH, PAYOUTS.

SO WE NEED TO, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF LIMITING THAT AND, UH, KEEPING IT UNDER CONTROL.

SO I APPRECIATE THE COURT DOING THAT.

THANK YOU HERE.

ALRIGHT SIR, MOVE TO

[V.D. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

KIM? GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

LEMME GO OVER THIS PERSON.

WE'LL DO, YEAH.

SO AS BIANCA HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, JUST A SUMMARY REAL QUICK FOR CAP AND NON CAP ITEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

SO FOR REGULAR CAP, NON CAP, YOU'VE APPROVED 718,195 FOR IT CAP, NON CAP 153,460 FOR NEW EMPLOYEE CAP, NON CAP 83,215.

NEW EMPLOYEE, IT CAP, NON CAP 95 10 FOR A TOTAL OF $964,380 WORTH OF CAPITAL ITEMS APPROVED TO DATE.

UM, YOU, WE'VE ALSO WITH THE AV PROJECT, UM, YOU APPROVED THAT PROJECT WITH, UM, $240,000 COMING OUT OF THE FUND.

14 FOR THE COURT FACILITIES.

SO WANNA MOVE ON TO THE, JUST THE REGULAR CAP, NON CAP THINGS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING OUTSIDE OF VEHICLES AND, AND EQUIPMENT FOR VEHICLES.

UM, WE NEED TO DISCUSS ROLLOVER BUDGET FROM 2026, UM, TO INCLUDE THE ELECTIONS PARKING LOT.

I KNOW CRICKET WAS IN, IN COURT YESTERDAY AND, AND YOU ALL AUTHORIZED HER TO GET THE PARKING LOT STRIPED AFTER THAT EXPENSE.

THAT LEAVES A BUDGET OF $178,034 AND 80 CENTS.

UM, THAT WAS BUDGETED THIS PAST YEAR.

I, I RECOMMEND ROLLING THAT FORWARD, BUT, UM, UNLESS ONE OF THE PRECINCTS IS GONNA BE ABLE TO REDO THAT PARKING LOT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP ON THAT.

UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO ADD SOME TO THE CONTINGENCY IN CASE THAT 178,000 IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER WHATEVER THE BIDS COME BACK AT.

HOW MUCH WE TALKING TO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR HOW MUCH ADD JUST THEY ADD TO IT? WHAT DO YOU THINKING? UH, SO IF, IF, UH, IF WE WERE TO WIND UP BIDDING THAT OUT SOMEONE AND, UH, AWARDING THE BID, THEN YOUR, YOUR BELIEF IS IT WOULD BE MUCH GREATER THAN THE $178,000 TO DO THAT.

IT, IT POSSIBLY COULD BE.

AND IF SO YOU, YOU'RE REQUESTING THAT WE PUT MONEY IN CONTINGENCY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

UH, I THINK, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF MONEY AND CONTINGENCY TO COME IN WITHOUT EARMARKING SOMETHING FOR THAT.

AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT FROM THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT THAT WE WIND UP IN GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY IF THAT SHOULD OCCUR.

IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? NOPE.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE, HAVE ACTIONS WE WOULD NEED A A YOU NEED A MOTION TO ROLL OVER THE CURRENT AMOUNTS? YES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT ONE PROJECT.

JUST THIS ONE PROJECT SO FAR.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

HALT.

AND DISCUSSION.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR.

AND WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT AGAIN? 180 5, 1 78, 1 78 AND $35.

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THE SECOND ITEM ON THE LIST IS THE SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE CRITERIA.

THERE'S STILL A BALANCE REMAINING IN THAT LINE IN THE CONTRACT SERVICES LINE FOR THOSE SERVICES OF $41,344.

AND THAT CONTRACT WAS, IS WITH BAIRD, HAMPTON AND BROWN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS.

THIS IS THE, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP HERE ON MY PAPERS.

IT'S NOT ON THE PAPERS.

IT'S NOT ON THE SHEET.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS ON THE SHEET.

NO, WE DON'T.

CAN YOU REPEAT? DON'T WE DON'T HAVE AN ITEMIZED LIST.

ROLLOVERS FIRST.

THE, WE DO ON THE YELLOW.

IN THE YELLOW, I'M SORRY, ON THE YELLOW OF THE SECOND PAGE OF THE CAT ONE CAT.

OH, YOU MAY BE ON THE NEW EMPLOYEES SPREADSHEET.

THE SECOND ONE DOWN.

GOT IT.

IT STARTS WITH THE ELECTIONS PARKING LOT.

SO DID WE GET AN UPDATED, DIDN'T WE GET ONE ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO OR SO? FROM B YEAH.

YOU FROM BHB? YES.

AND WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT? UM, OR I GUESS THE BETTER QUESTION IS, IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE MOST RECENTLY GOT, HAS IT ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THIS 41 3 4 4? I WOULD ASSUME IT HAS NOT BEEN.

LEMME REAL QUICK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE APPROVED THAT YET.

YEAH, REBECCA WOULD'VE BEEN THE ONE TO SUBMIT IT.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'VE APPROVED IT YET.

THAT I RECALL FOR THE SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE ENGINEER.

WE, Y'ALL SENT ME AN INVOICE ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR SO.

I'VE, YEAH, I FORWARDED ON REBECCA.

I DON'T, WE'VE APPROVED IT YET.

SO IT, SO IT SHOULD NOT HAVE COME OUT.

I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IT WOULD STILL NEED TO COME OUT FROM THIS 41 OUT OF 41.

SO THAT WOULD PUT IT ABOUT 31.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ROLL WHATEVER THAT NET REMAINDER IS.

OVER.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

THAT'S THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

CURIOUS.

I BILL.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, WE RECEIVED SEVEN.

WE'VE RECEIVED 800 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PROPERTY DAMAGE FROM THE HILLS STORM LAST JUNE.

AND WE STILL HAVE $776,000 IN THAT LAWN.

AND THAT'S FOR AESTHETIC.

UM, INCLUDES THE 500,000 FOR AESTHETIC REPAIRS THAT WE CAN USE AT ANY LOCATION THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.

UM, AND THEN ADDITIONAL FOR, I THINK PART OF THAT'S GONNA GO TOWARDS THE ROOF AT THE JIM WRIGHT BUILDING AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS AND I, I GUESS WE DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION OR APPROVE A MOTION TO HOW TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS, RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT.

SO IT'S SITTING THERE AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT SHOULD BE ROLLED OVER AND, AND KEPT WHERE IT IS, UH, SO THAT IT CAN BE UTILIZED DURING THE YEAR FOR, UM, INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ON STRUCTURES.

MOTION BE BY MR. WALDEN.

SECOND BE MR. HA, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

CURIOUS ABOUT VOTE? SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TYLER MUNI.

WE STILL HAVE $181,099, UM, THAT WAS BUDGETED, UM, THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE NEED TO ROLL OVER FOR, TO COMPLETE THE IMPLEMENTATION, UM, FOR FIXED ASSETS AND PAYROLL AND, AND TIMEKEEPING AND SO FORTH.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

AND DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES I VOTE AND NOT INCLUDING ON YOUR SPREADSHEETS.

UM, WE, I JUST ADDED THESE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

UM, YOU ALL HAD BUDGETED 3.2 MILLION FOR LAND USE AND FACILITIES LAST YEAR AND THAT, THAT AMOUNT'S STILL AVAILABLE.

WE NEED TO ROLL THAT AS WELL.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY DISCUSSION? PAUL, WE CURIOUS? WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT USED ANY OF THAT, CORRECT? NO, SIR.

AND THEN, UM, JAMES HAD BROUGHT TO ALL TO YOU, TO YOU ALL YESTERDAY ABOUT THE TOWER BEING ERECTED AT EAST ANNEX AND HE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ALREADY A PO IN PLACE.

UM, THEIR APPEAL WAS IN PLACE IN SDW.

WE NEED TO CREATE IT IN TYLER, BUT, UM, THAT WAS FOR $1.9 MILLION AND THAT WILL NEED TO BE ROLLED FOR THAT PROJECT.

MOVE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

THE TOTAL FOR THOSE ROLLOVERS IS 6.2 $6,298,457.

DO YOU HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT ON THAT RADIO TOWER? YOU SAID? 1.9 MILLION.

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1 MILLION 9 21 9 11 25.

NOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEW EMPLOYEE RELATED CAPTAIN ON CAP ON THE 17TH COURT.

YOU ALL HAD, UM, APPROVED THE NEW EMPLOYEES FOR THE CONSTABLE TWO AND CONSTABLE THREE OFFICES.

AND WE NEED TO, UM, CONFIRM THAT YOU ALL WERE ALSO INTENDING TO APPROVE THE CAPITAL AND NON CAP REQUEST FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES, WHICH INCLUDES FOR CONSTABLE TWO, A TAHOE, OUTFITTING OF THE TAHOE, A VEST.

AND, UM, THEN FOR PRECINCT THREE, UH, A PATROL UNIT, RADIO, AND THEN A HANDHELD RADIO FOR $8,000.

AND THOSE TOTALS COME UP TO TWO.

I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE VEST FOR CONSTABLE TWO, BUT NOT YET THE VEHICLE SUBJECT TO A VEHICLE AUDIT.

WHICH IS BEING PERFORMED TOMORROW.

SO THIS MOTION IS FOR THE BEST, ONLY FOR THE CONSTABLE TO EMPLOY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLZ.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON PAPER? CAN, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I HAD A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING YOU.

SO SHE'S SAYING THAT WE APPROVED THAT NEW CONSTABLE, DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR TWO.

WITH THAT WE DID NOT APPROVE ANY OF THE CAP.

I'M SAYING VEST ONLY FOR NOW.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA DO THAT VEHICLE AUDIT TOMORROW.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS MISSING.

THAT LAST PART.

WE'LL DO THE VEHICLE AUDIT TOMORROW.

SO I'D PREFER TO WAIT ON VEHICLES.

OH, AND THEN, THEN THERE'S THE NEW PATROL UNIT RADIO FOR 8,500 FOR CONSTABLE THREE AND A NEW HANDHELD RADIO FOR $8,000.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

SECOND COMMISSIONER.

DISCUSSION ALL OVER FAVOR CARRIES FIVE.

OH, WHAT'S THE, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE VEST.

WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE.

RIGHT? OKAY, GOOD.

NEXT ITEM.

UM, ALSO UNDER IT, NEW EMPLOYEE CAP FOR CONSTABLE TWO, THEY'VE REQUESTED A LAP, A RUGGED LAPTOP, AND THEN A DESKTOP COMPUTER, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF $5,114.

AND THIS IS FOR WHO AGAIN? CONSTABLE TWO NEW EMPLOYEE.

SO IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION FOR JAMES.

JAMES, DO WE NEED A DESKTOP AND A LAPTOP? HE'S NOT HERE.

JAMES IS NOT HERE.

HE OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST, JUST A QUESTION THAT I HAVE TO NEED.

A DESKTOP AND A LAPTOP.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? OH, I USE MY LAPTOP AS MY DESKTOP.

SO DO I.

DOES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

WELL, YEAH, I'LL WITHDRAW IT.

UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER FROM JAMES.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

OTHER THAN THE CAPITAL PROJECT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH SYLVIA'S GONNA TALK ABOUT.

SYLVIA, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM.

OH, SYLVIA, YOU WANT ME TO COME UP ANYWAY? YES, MA'AM.

WHICH IS UNDER ITEM FOUR B, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA ITEM IN FRONT OF ME.

IT'S CAP, NON CAP BUDGET REQUEST.

UH, WE GAVE YOU GUYS A LIST, THE 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UM, YOU PREVIOUSLY GAVE THAT TO US.

IT'S NOT IN OUR STACK TODAY.

RIGHT? 15 ITEM E.

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SO WE'RE ON ITEM A.

JUDGE.

WE, WE, WE LEFT D AND NOW CAPITAL.

I APOLOGIZE.

OPENING

[V.E. Discuss/Take action on FY 2027 Capital Improvement Projects. (Mark Long / Judge Deen)]

DO YOU GUYS HAVE IT? THAT LOOKS LIKE THE OLD ONE ON THE 17TH.

NO, THERE WAS A NEW ONE ON THE 18TH SENT OUT TO YOU.

JUST GOT IT.

GOOD.

, THE REASON I WANTED TO COME UP AND TALK IS, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE LIST.

UH, I APOLOGIZE.

MR. LONG HAD FAMILY EMERGENCY, HE WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO BE HERE.

THE ITEMS THAT I SHOWED THAT WE DID NOT ITEMIZE AS FAR AS PRIORITY THAT YOU PREFERRED TO ASK US FOR WERE THE THINGS FOR SPRINGTOWN AND THE CONSTABLES BUILDING.

THOSE ITEMS WERE NOT LISTED FOR MY YEARLY BUDGET.

MA'AM, WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR THE, IS IT ON THIS PAPER FOR THE NEW BUILDING AT SPRINGTOWN? UH, I DO NOT HAVE UNDER JUSTICE OF THE PEACE ONE JP ONE CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T HAVE AN AMOUNT.

I DIDN'T KNOW I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS.

NICK, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT OR WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT THE BUILDING? I THINK WE WERE PRESENTED WITH, UH, UH, FROM CONSTABLE ONE, A MODULAR BUILDING EARLY ON.

WELL, BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT AN ESTIMATED COST OF CONSTRUCTION OR MODULAR BUILDING OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR A DIFFERENT PLAN.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY COLLECTOR, SHE HAD A, SOME KIND OF PAPERWORK ON A BUILDING.

OH YEAH.

THAT YOU GAVE US EARLIER.

UP.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA SET ASIDE FOR THE BUILDING IN SPRINGTOWN? YES.

WE JUST DID AN ESTIMATE FOR A METAL BUILDING TO MOVE AUTO REGISTRATION INTO AND A THEN REMODEL THE JP OFFICE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED HARD NUMBERS.

SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE EARMARK APPORTIONING CONTINGENCY FOR NOW.

I'M, I'M HESITANT TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT JUST BECAUSE WE PROBABLY NEED TO SEE SOME, I MEAN, WE NEED TO DO THIS.

SO I WOULD SAY WE JUST PUT, PUT SOME ASIDE IN CONTINGENCY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH THE FULL APPROVALS PROCESS ONCE WE GET THE THREE NECESSARY BIDS.

500,000 INTENTIONS.

WHAT, WHAT WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE, THE BUILDING THAT YOU THINK YOU NEED? JENNY LESS THAN 1500 MM-HMM .

AND THEN WE NEED, WE NEED MONEY IN ADDITION TO THAT, TO, UH, UH, REMODEL WHAT'S THERE.

AND UM, IS IT ALLOWABLE THERE AT THAT LOCATION TO BUILD A METAL BUILDING? YES, THERE'S ROOM WITH SEPTIC THAT, THAT WASN'T ME LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT YES.

AND WOULD THERE HAVE TO BE REVISIONS TO THE SEPTIC SYSTEM OR A NEW ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PLACE FOR WHOLE NEW STIC? WHOLE NEW SEPTIC? YEAH.

THEN WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO BUDGET SOME FOR AN ASPHALT DRIVEWAY AROUND SO THAT THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO DO THE DRIVE THROUGH.

I'M GONNA MOVE, WE SET ASIDE 500,000.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

COMMISSIONER CONY.

I'M A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER T.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? SO THE MOTION IS TO ADD THAT AMOUNT TO CONTINGENCY.

TO CONTINGENCY, YES.

EARMARKED FOR THIS PROJECT? YES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHO IS UH, WHO'S CHASING DOWN MORE INFORMATION? MR. CONLEY.

I THINK HER AND ME.

I GOT THREW UNDER THE BUS FOR THAT ONE.

BOTH? NO.

WHERE, UH, YOU STILL HAVE THAT PAPERWORK? I HAVE IT SOMEWHERE THAT YOU DREW UP ABOUT THE BUILDING YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE.

WE'LL GET THAT LATER.

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ALL ON PAPER .

SO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S THE OTHER SEVERAL ITEMS THAT I HAVE LISTED.

THE MODULAR BUILDING DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

YES, SIR.

FOR CONSTABLE ONE.

I THINK THAT THE, UH, THIS OPTION TWO THAT WE JUST APPROVED PROBABLY NEGATES THAT NEEDED IT.

IT DOES.

YEAH, YOU CAN STRIKE THROUGH THOSE.

YOU CAN STRIKE THROUGH THOSE.

I SHALL.

AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THAT I SHOW ARE THE GLASS, THE BULLETPROOF GRAPHS FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 25,000.

AND THEN APPROXIMATELY 150,000 FOR THE J-J-A-E-P.

SO WE CAN FINISH THE REMODEL ON THE REST OF THE OFFICES.

IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T GONE OUT TO SEE THE NEW OFFICES MY CREW HAS DONE.

THAT'S REALLY AWESOME.

WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY HERE, WE'RE TALKING ON 1105 SANTA FE? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

THAT, THAT'S NOT THE JJAP, THAT'S THE JUVENILE BOARD.

I'M SORRY.

THEN I NAME I NO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, THE PROBATION.

IT'S PROBATION.

NICE TRY THOUGH.

ACTUALLY I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT.

WE'RE STILL SOLVING THAT AND WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING AT THAT FACILITY ON THAT JUST TO BRING BACK TO THE COURT.

BUT TO CLARIFY HERE, THAT IS THE JUVENILE BOARD MEETING MOVING NOW FROM WHERE THEY'RE AT TO THAT? CORRECT.

AND THAT IS, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT AND IT TURNED OUT FANTASTIC.

IT'S GREAT.

YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

BUT THOSE ARE THE OTHER, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE NOT LISTED PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE IN THE LIGHT GREEN.

WE CAN ABSORB THOSE INTO OUR REGULAR BUILDING BUDGET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THAT'S, I THINK NOW'S THE, UH, TIME AND THE AGENDA WHERE WE TAKE A BREAK, JUDGE.

YEAH, RIGHT HERE BETWEEN E AND F.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CHOICE HERE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA RECESS HERE AT 10 22.

TAKE A 10 MINUTE 10 32, UH, BACK TO THE, UH, AGENDA AND UNDER, UNDER ITEM E DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON FY 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

THAT WAS THE ONE WE JUST DID.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

TO ITEM F ON ACTIVE EMPLOYEE INSURANCE RATES.

MOVE

[V.F. Active Employee Insurance Rates. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

BECKY.

UH, PBC BOARD FINALLY DID HAVE THEIR BOARD MEETING ON FRIDAY AND MADE THEIR FINAL DECISION ON PLAN, UM, DESIGN CHANGES.

SO THE PLAN DESIGN CHANGES IS GOING TO MAINLY AFFECT OUR PPO PLAN.

WE'RE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE IN DEDUCTIBLE OF AN EMPLOYEE ONLY PLAN FROM $500 TO 625.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE $125 INCREASE TO DEDUCTIBLE.

UM, SAME WAY EMPLOYEE ONLY FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY PPO.

SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR TO HELP EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES.

THERE WILL ALSO BE A $250 INCREASE TO MAX OUT OF POCKET ON THE, ON THAT SIDE OF IT TOO.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR DEDUCTIBLES AND YOU HAVE YOUR MAX OUT OF POCKET.

SAME WAY WITH FAMILY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE $125 INCREASE TO YOUR DEDUCTIBLE.

TWO 50 ON YOUR MAX OUT OF POCKET FOR THE PPO PLANS, THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS, THEY DID STAY WITH THE IRS REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE $50 INCREASES, WHICH WE'VE SEEN THAT EVERY YEAR.

SO I DID PROVIDE Y'ALL A RATE SHEET.

AND SO THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION FOR RATES.

EVERY MEDICAL PLAN WILL SEE AN INCREASE.

AND SO I'VE MADE A LITTLE NOTATION WHAT WHAT INCREASE THAT WILL BE.

AND THAT IS A BIWEEKLY INCREASE.

SO THOSE ARE, UH, AS YOU SEE THE BIGGEST HIT IS PPO FAMILY.

WE'LL SEE A $40 INCREASE ON EVERY PAYCHECK.

THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.

YES, THEIR RATES ARE, UM, THEY'RE STILL GOING UP, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE PPO PLANS.

AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE PPO PLANS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING AT A $1.5 MILLION DEFICIT THIS YEAR JUST IN OUR PPO PLAN ALONE.

IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS, I KNOW WE'RE BY NO MEANS THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS, JUST AN EXAMPLE, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS COMPLETELY DO AWAY WITH PPO PLANS AND ONLY HAVE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS.

SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES STILL HAVE THE CHOICE IN A PPO OR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE.

WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATION

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BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT COULD SAVE SOME DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKET EVERY PAYCHECK BY SWITCHING PLANS.

UH, JUST DELTA DENTAL, WE DID GO OUT FOR A DENTAL RFP, WE ARE GOING TO STAY WITH DELTA DENTAL, BUT, UM, WE DID GET A THREE YEAR RATE GUARANTEE.

SO WE SHOULDN'T SEE ANY CHANGES IN OUR DE DENTAL PLANS FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS.

UM, JUST FYI, FOR ANYONE LISTENING, I GUESS THE STATE OF TEXAS CHANGED THEIR DENTAL PLAN AND SOME DENTAL OFFICES ARE ALERTING COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO THAT.

AND SO I GOT THREE CALLS IN LIKE FIVE MINUTES YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS.

SO IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT STATE EMPLOYEES, WE ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THAT DOES NOT AFFECT US.

SO, BECKY, CAN YOU, UM, SHARE AT THE PODIUM WHAT YOU SHARED WITH ME REGARDING LOOKING AT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR, OUR FOLKS WITH THE LOWEST SALARIES? YES.

HOW COLA'S GONNA GET IMPACTED WITH THAT? YEAH, SO I DID, I DID LOOK AT THAT AS Y'ALL PASS THE 6% COLA, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO, WOW, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF HIGH.

THAT'S MORE THAN A COLA, THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT CPI LOOKS AT RIGHT NOW.

FOR TRUE CPI, YOU'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT A 3.6, 3.74% COLA.

SO REALLY THE 2% ADJUSTMENT WAS TO HELP THE OFFSET OF INSURANCE.

I DID LOOK AT A FULL-TIME OR LOWEST PAID FULL-TIME COUNTY POSITIONS.

AND IF THEY WERE TO HAVE THE HIGHEST INCREASE, SO A PPO FAMILY PLAN, THEY ARE STILL GOING TO BE HAVING MONEY IN THEIR PAYCHECK.

IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE ABSORBED BY THE RAISE OR BY THE INSURANCE INCREASE.

THEY ARE STILL GONNA COME OUT TO THE GOOD.

GOOD.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED AT THE TIME THAT WE MADE THE MOTION TO PROVE THAT WAS THAT A PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE EATEN UP BY INSURANCE COSTS.

WE DID REMIND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEMBERS OF OUR INSURANCE GROUP, WHO THE MEMBERS ARE.

SO WE DO CO-OP WITH PBC.

SO IT IS PARTNERSHIPS WITH DALLAS COUNTY, TARRANT COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY, AND THE TOLLWAY ASSOCIATION.

SO I DO SIT ON AN EXECUTIVE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD AND SENDS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.

SO PBC HAS BEEN GREAT FOR US.

WE'VE, I ALWAYS SAY WE KIND OF RIDE THEIR COATTAILS.

WE GET TO SEE SOME GREAT ADVANTAGES.

I ALWAYS WILL MAKE THE POINT OF THE FEE THAT WE PAY INTO PBC IS ABOUT 45,000, $50,000 A YEAR.

WELL, I COULDN'T PAY AN EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S LESS THAN WHAT I COULD HAVE ANOTHER FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE FOR IN MY OFFICE TO DO THE WORK THAT PBC DOES.

UM, AS WE HAVE BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THIS PARTNERSHIP, THIS YEAR WAS REALLY HARD.

WHENEVER YOU SEE THESE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE THESE BIG HITS FINANCIALLY, AND THEN THEY KIND OF TRY TO MAKE IT UP IN BENEFITS A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER THAT BOARD VOTES AND I DO NOT GET A BOARD VOTE.

UM, WHATEVER THEY VOTE WE HAVE TO DO.

SO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS DOUBLING DEDUCTIBLES, DOUBLING OUT-OF-POCKET MAXES, THAT'S A BIG PILL TO SWALLOW IN ONE YEAR.

UM, I WAS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF PLAN DESIGN CHANGES TO PPO.

ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS WAS PPO SHOULD BE ADJUSTED THE SAME WAY.

THE IRS MAKES US ADJUST A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN EVERY YEAR.

LIKE HINDSIGHT'S 2020 SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FIVE YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO THEY KIND OF STARTED TAKING THOSE STEPS TO GET US THERE.

UH, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO TAKE THE PPO DEDUCTIBLE TO SEVEN 50.

ULTIMATELY THAT DIDN'T FLY AND THEY DECIDED TO DO HALF.

BUT I DO LOOK FOR PPO CHANGES EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD.

I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UH, MS. MCCULLOUGH.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALL.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

UH, BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANNA MAKE? YEAH, UM, SORRY, BECKY.

UM, THIS WAS A PLANNED AND BECKY HAS NO IDEA ABOUT SAY THIS.

SO I'VE NEGOTIATED INSURANCE RATES AT MY PREVIOUS JOB AND, AND POLICIES AND PLANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I THOUGHT WE HAD REALLY GOOD INSURANCE WHERE I CAME FROM.

UM, WHAT BECKY AND HER TEAM HAS DONE, UM, HAS BEEN REMARKABLE.

THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST INSURANCE POLICIES, INSURANCE PLANS I'VE EVER SEEN IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU, CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, MY FAMILY LOVES IT.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT, A GREAT BENEFIT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.

IF YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE OF PARKER COUNTY, UM, YOU NEED TO BE THANKFUL FOR THE GOOD INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE.

I AGREE TO THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, BECKY.

A DISCOUNT TO US BECAUSE OF WE'RE OUR MEMBERSHIP IN PEBC.

THAT, THAT INSURANCE COMES WITH, UH, UH, AT

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WE, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE BUYING MORE INSURANCE AND, AND, AND IT'S CORRECT.

IT'S IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION TO OFFER THIS INSURANCE AT THE PRICE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER IT AT.

AND, AND THERE WE DID BENCHMARKING.

AND SO WE ARE STILL A RICH PLAN.

UM, AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE EVEN BY MAKING THE TWEAKS WE'RE MAKING, WE ARE STILL CONSIDERED A MUCH BETTER PLAN THAN WHAT A LOT OF PLACES ARE ABLE TO OFFER.

AS WE PROCESS NEW HIRES.

IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING WHEN THEY SEE OUR DEDUCTIBLES AND THINGS.

THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE HONESTLY BLOWN AWAY.

AND THEN THE RATES, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.

SO VERY, VERY BLESSED BY THE PLAN.

UM, THE BIGGEST BENEFITS FOR PBC IS OUR, OUR STOP-LOSS RATES THAT WE GET VERY EXPENSIVE STOP-LOSS COVERAGE, BUT THEY'RE VERY NEEDED.

UM, A SO FEES THAT WE PAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSULTANT CONTRACT IS $250,000 A YEAR TO PBC AND OUR ANNUAL SPEND TO PBC IS 50,000.

SO WE GET BENEFITS OF BEING ABLE TO REALLY, UM, UTILIZE SOME, SOME BIG COMPANIES TO HELP US.

AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON INSURANCE AND BY NO MEANS IS OUR PLAN PERFECT AS THERE'S PEOPLE RIGHT NOW PROBABLY WATCHING, YOU KNOW, MAD AT ME FOR SOME REASON.

BUT, UM, A PLAN THAT'S GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY WILL ALSO BE UNAFFORDABLE.

SO.

COOL.

BEG, IF YOU WOULD STAY THERE IF YOU DON'T MIND FOR THE NEXT ONE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE FAVO.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM G ON HEALTH INSURANCE FOR RETIREES.

AND

[V.G. Health Insurance for Retirees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

I WILL HAVE TO BRING THAT ONE BACK.

I DO NEED TO HAVE, UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT MA ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES TO POLICY RIGHT NOW FOR A POST 65 EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN WITH PARKER COUNTY 10 YEARS, WE DO COVER THEIR SUPPLEMENTS.

UM, IF THEY CHOOSE TO TAKE IT, I ALWAYS TELL 'EM THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH.

THEY DO HAVE TO BE ON MEDICARE PART A AND B.

WE HAVE HAD AMAZING FEEDBACK FROM SOME LOCAL, UM, BUSINESSES THAT HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION TO MEDICARE AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE LIKE, YOU'RE, Y'ALL SUPPLEMENT PLAN IS THE BEST PLAN WE'VE EVER SEEN.

SO IT'S A REALLY GREAT PLAN.

UM, AGAIN, NOT ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES TO THAT.

WE DID GET A FIVE YEAR RATE LOCK WHEN WE WENT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, AND THIS WILL BE YEAR THREE WILL BE NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE PRE 65 AND YOU HAVE 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, UM, WE DO COVER 50% OF THE EMPLOYEE ONLY OPTION.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR RETIREES, I THINK CURRENTLY ON PRE 65 COVERAGE.

BUT I NEED TO HAVE THOSE RATES VERIFIED AND BRING THOSE BACK.

BUT AGAIN, THE POLICY ITSELF WILL NOT CHANGE, SO IT REALLY WON'T BE BUDGETARY AGAIN.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK Y'ALL FOR DOING THAT.

H ON DISCUSSED VOTE ON PROPOSED ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.

TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM G, MOVE TO ITEM

[V.H. Discuss/ Vote on Proposed Elected Officials Salaries. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW OTHER THAN THERE WAS THREE GRIEVANCES FILED.

SO THAT WILL BE HANDLED MONDAY EVENING.

TO ITEM ISLAND SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR PRECINCTS.

UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ON THERE, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION.

MOVE

[V.I. Salaries and Benefits for Precincts. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW ON THAT.

ANY COMMENTS ON ANYONE? NO.

TO ITEM J SALARIES AND BENEFITS FROM PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

NO ACTION ON ITEM I MOVE

[V.J. Salaries and Benefits for PCSO. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

ANY UPDATES? NOT AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM J.

[V.K. Salaries and Benefits for Non-Elected Employees. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

MOVE TO ITEM K ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS FROM NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS.

UM, I'LL JUST PASS OUT A QUICK LITTLE HANDOUT.

BASICALLY THE TOP PART IS GONNA BE JUST WHAT BIANCA ALREADY GAVE Y'ALL OF AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED AT THE BOTTOM.

I DID LIST OUT SOME THINGS THAT GOT, UM, SOME GOOD SCORES OUT OF COMMITTEE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE, UH, WELL, THAT I KNOW IS GONNA BE TALKED ABOUT.

SO, OKAY.

WE'RE ON ITEM K.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT? THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE A HAND ALSO FOR THAT? I DON'T WANT GET ON YOUR STUFF.

UH, BAIL OF SALARIES ARE ACTUALLY IN THE COURT'S, UH, BUDGET, BUT THEIR SALARY IS DETERMINED BY WHAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PAYS THEIR EMPLOYEES.

I THINK SHE'S HANDING OUT THIS THE, UH, EMPLOYEE THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS.

THIS IS REGARDING BAILEY.

YEAH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE FOUR BAILIFFS, ONE FOR EACH OF THE COURTS.

THAT IS ONE FOR CCL ONE, CCL TWO, ONE FOR THE 43RD AND ONE FOR THE FOUR 15TH.

I THINK THEY WERE JUST OVERLOOKED IN THE PROCESS WHEN SALARIES WERE FIGURED OUT.

[01:35:01]

AND GENERALLY THE BAILIFFS HAVE BEEN GROUPED WITHIN COURTHOUSE SECURITY AND IT'S A STEP IN GRADE AND THE BAILIFFS CAPPED OUT THIS YEAR ON STEP IN GRADE.

SO WHEN THEIR SALARIES WERE WERE DELIVERED TO THEM THIS PAST WEEK, MY BAILIFF GOT LESS THAN 1% OF A SALARY QUI INCREASE.

AND THAT WAS THE SAME I KNOW FOR THE BAILIFF AND CCL ONE I, THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISTRICT JUDGES PAY THEIR BAILIFFS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY PAID THEIR BAILIFFS.

UM, I TALKED TO THE DISTRICT JUDGES ON FRIDAY.

THEY WERE AN, THEY, THEY WILL, AS LONG AS ALL THE BAILIFFS ARE PAID THE SAME, THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT I'M DOING TODAY.

I TALKED WITH MARK ARNETTE AND IN, IN FAIRNESS TO MARK, HE SPENDS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON BUDGET.

AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST WASN'T ON HIS RADAR.

IT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT.

SO WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD, SO THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR COLA IN ESSENCE.

UH, THEY DIDN'T GET AN, AN INCREASE THAT'LL BARELY COVER THE INSURANCE PREMIUM HIKE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THEM, IN TALKING WITH MARK, WE WENT THROUGH THEIR NEW, UM, THEIR NEW LIST OF THEIR MUCH REDUCED CONDENSED LIST OF EMPLOYEES AND GIVEN THE JOB DUTIES AND TASKS OF A BAILIFF.

AND I CAN, YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAR IT, BUT I I CAN GIVE YOU A LIST OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY DO.

THEY, MARK AND I FIGURED THAT THEY WOULD FIT MORE WITH AN EXTRADITION DEPUTY THAN THEY WOULD WITH COURTHOUSE SECURITY BECAUSE THEY DO MORE THAN JUST MONITOR AND, AND CHECK PEOPLE IN.

SO, BUT THEY WOULD BE LESS THAN AN ACTUAL, UM, PATROL DEPUTY, BUT MORE THAN A COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTY.

SO THEY WOULD FIT WITHIN THE LINE ITEM THAT I HAVE HERE FOR EXTRADITION DEPUTY AND THAT WOULD PUT 'EM ON A LITTLE DIFFERENT STEP IN GRADE AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE JUDGES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM A COLA RAISE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I THINK LONG TERM IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR JOB DUTIES ARE, THEY WOULD FIT MORE IN THAT CATEGORY.

UM, THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM.

BUT AS A MINIMUM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM GET THEIR, THEIR 6% COLA 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET IT THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S, IT ONLY AFFECTS FOUR PEOPLE.

UM, MY BAILIFF THE BAILIFF FOR CCL ONE, MR. WILSON AND THE TWO BAILIFFS THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICT COURTS.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, BECKY? YEAH, SO, SO WHAT I PROVIDED AT THE COURSE AT THE TOP IS THEIR CURRENT SALARY IN THAT GREEN SECTION THAT IS B IF THEY WERE TO STAY ON THAT COURTHOUSE SECURITY SCALE.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S AN INCREASE OF $867.

SO AROUND YES, 1%.

UM, THE SECOND SECTION IS IF YOU WERE TO JUST GIVE THEM THE 6% COLA, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN THEIR ANNUAL SALARY OF $4,208.

OR MOVING TO THE EXTRADITION SCALE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT A 9% RAISE FOR AN INCREASE OF 6,679.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER WALDEN, YOU LIKE TO BRING UP OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR SALARY.

SO I DID MAKE A NOTE NOTATION THAT THEY HAVE $1,800 CERTIFICATION PAY AND $1,200 UNIFORM ALLOWANCES ON TOP OF THEIR BASE PAY.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TOTAL COST OVER THERE? UH, YEAH, THAT'S IT.

SO OVER THERE OFF TO THE SIDE, YOU CAN SEE IF YOU MOVE 'EM TO THE 6%, IT'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL 20,677.

IF YOU MOVE THEM TO THE 9%, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 32,820.

NO, I I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THEIR CURRENT SALARIES ALL BEING THE SAME, BUT THE TOTAL COST BEING DIFFERENT.

WELL, BECAUSE ON THE FAR RIGHT END COLUMN, WELL, BECAUSE YOUR TOTAL COST IS ALWAYS GONNA BE DIFFERENT FOR EACH PERSON DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF INSURANCE THEY PAY THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR UM, IT'S GOING TO BE MAINLY THEIR LIFE INSURANCE AND WELL TAXES IS GONNA LONGEVITY PAY, LONGEVITY PAY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE ALL BUILT INTO TOTAL COST.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OH, I GOTTA TELL YOU, ALL THE BS ARE VERY HELPFUL.

BECKY, BRIANNA, AND, UH, BIANCA.

APPARENTLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE B TO WORK IN, UH, IN BUDGETING.

IT'S A B ISN'T IT? IT'S ALL BS, HUH? WELL, YOU'RE K BUT WE'LL CHANGE YOUR NAME ANYWAY.

I'M SILENT.

YOU ARE SILENT.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE A SILENT B .

SORRY, I DIGRESS.

I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE GO TO 6%, WHICH WOULD BE THE EXTRADITION SCALE.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I, I THINK ONE IS A SHORT TERM STRATEGY.

ONE'S A LONG TERM STRATEGY.

I REALLY, THEY JUST NEED THE INCREASE.

SO YOU CAN HAVE THE PRAGMATIC APPROACH OR JUST LOOK AT WHAT THEIR JOB DUTIES ARE AND MAKE THE SECOND ASSESSMENT.

[01:40:05]

IS THAT CORRECT COMMISSIONER? NO, IT'S THE O IT'S THE OTHER COLUMN.

IT'S THE, IT'S KEEPING 'EM AT CORRO SECURITY, BUT GIVING 'EM THE SIX.

GIVING 'EM THE COLA.

WHAT, I'M SORRY, I PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT WITH THE, SO DO Y'ALL HAVE THE UNIFORM ALLOWANCES AND EVERYTHING ON TOP AS WELL? YEAH, THEY DO.

AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT, THEY'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT UNIFORM ALLOWANCE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, FOR, FOR WHENEVER, FOR HOWEVER LONG.

AND THE, AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CARRIES THEIR PAPERS.

SO THEY DO ALL THEIR TRAINING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THEY DO ALL THEIR, THEY DO ALL THEIR TRAINING.

ALL THEIR HOSTAGE OR COMMISSION.

HUH? WITH COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE OFFICIAL WORDS.

AND I WOULD ASK FOR, UH, IF ANY INCREASE IN COURTHOUSE GOES TO ALL SECURITY VOTES.

MOTIONS BY COMMISSIONER HOLTON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

ANY END DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES.

AND THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO, BY THE WAY, POP OUT.

THIS IS AN ARDUOUS PROCESS, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU ALL GIVE ALL OF US TO SHOW UP AND, AND AND APPEAL AND UM, JUST, IT TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF LISTENING SKILLS ON YOUR PART AND A GREAT DEAL OF PATIENCE TO PUT UP WITH ALL OF US.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT? JUST, JUST I KNOW, I KNOW.

JUST A REMINDER THAT WHAT GETS APPROVED TODAY COULD BE CHANGED TOMORROW.

WELL, I KNOW, BUT I, I, I, IT THIS JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS, THIS IS A MIND NUMBING PROCESS AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO ONLY HAVE TO DO IT EVERY SO OFTEN, IT'S, IT IS MIND NUMBING AND I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

ALRIGHT, WE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NON-ELECTED EMPLOYEES? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OTHER FOLKS.

UM, YES.

OH, DO YOU WANNA, SO DOES THAT MOTION INCLUDE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GETS TO REDO THEIR COURTHOUSE SECURITY LINE? MINE WAS JUST FOR THAT, BUT I'M, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE OTHER AS WELL.

WE CAN REVIEW THAT AND BRING IT BACK TUESDAY.

SO HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE DOES THAT CONSIST OF? A LESS EIGHT OR NINE? YEAH, ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE.

LESS THAN 10.

CAN WE BRING IT BACK? YEAH, I CAN BRING THAT BACK.

BE TO JUST SET IT AT THAT AND THEN IT WOULD JUST FLOAT.

CAN FIGURE OUT THE NUMBER.

UM, MR. SWAIN IS HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT HIS OFFICE.

SO, UH, I HAVE THE DA INVESTIGATOR LINE ON THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH Y'ALL REMEMBER ABOUT WHEN I PRESENTED ON THIS BEFORE.

UM, SO I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE POINT.

I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

UM, BUT UH, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HAS KIND OF CHANGED SINCE I WROTE THE ORIGINAL LETTER TO Y'ALL.

WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS KEEP IT, UH, OUR INVESTIGATOR PAY TO MATCH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SERGEANT PAY SINCE I WROTE THE LETTER YOU APPROVED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH OH, THANK YOU.

IS THAT THE STUFF THAT YOU GAVE ME? PERFECT.

WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I LIKE THAT.

IT'S A BIGGER FONT THAN WHAT I HAD.

THAT'S NICE.

UM, THAT'S RIGHT, .

SO, UM, AS I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, A LONG WHILE AGO, THIS, UH, THE DA'S INVESTIGATOR POSITIONS WERE PAID, UH, THE SAME AS THE CHIEF DEPUTY AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, THAT HAS SLOWLY DROPPED BACK OVER TIME TO WHERE NOW IT IS.

UM, WELL, RIGHT WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW WHAT A, UH, SERGEANT GETS PAID AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE KIND OF COMP WISE.

UH, THE LAST DA INVESTIGATOR THAT WE HIRED JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR WAS A SERGEANT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING SERGEANT AND WE WERE, WE WERE GLAD TO TO STEAL HIM FROM THE SHERIFF, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH HE APPRECIATED THAT.

BUT, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE MARKET.

UM, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR DA INVESTIGATORS, THEY DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING FOR US AS FAR AS FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATION FROM CASES THAT WE GET, UH, EVERY KIND OF FELONY UP TO AND INCLUDING MURDER OR SEXUAL ASSAULT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THEY DO A LOT OF, UH, OF HEAVY WORK FOR US.

AND SO WE REALLY RELY ON THEM.

SO I I THINK YOU, I I HAVE KIND OF HAVE TWO ASKS.

UM, AND IT'S A MATTER OF WHICH ONE Y'ALL PREFER.

'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO PIN A JOB TO A DIFFERENT JOB TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF EQUIVALENCY.

UM, AND SO WE'D ASK YOU TO PIN THAT TO THE SERGEANT PAY.

I THINK THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.

UM, THE OTHER OPTION, IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT, UM, BUT ARE WILLING TO GIVE US THAT INCREASE, WOULD

[01:45:01]

BUT MY GOAL, AND I KNOW Y'ALL, UH, PROBABLY UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS, IS TO NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL EVERY SINGLE TIME.

UH, ANY SALARY GETS CHANGED BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, A LOT MORE WORK TO YOU AND THE, UH, LABORIOUS PROCESS OF SETTING A BUDGET.

SO, AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ANY MORE INFORMATION YOU MAY WANT, UH, OR ANY DISCUSSION YOU MAY HAVE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR DA CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS TO WHY YOU FEEL LIKE THE SERGEANT SCALE IS THE MOST APPLICABLE? SURE.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND I COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT FOR A SCALE ABOVE THAT, BUT I I'M NOT GOING TO, UM, SO, UM, BASICALLY A DA INVESTIGATOR WHEN, WHEN THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HIRING COME IN, UM, WE'RE HIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE THE ABSOLUTE, UH, PEAK OF THEIR INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, THAT HAVE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE.

OURS, OURS HAVE 42, 32 AND 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

UM, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE VERY SIGNIFICANT OFFENSES.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD COMP TO SOMEONE THAT WASN'T IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION.

UM, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HIRED IN OUR OFFICE, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE A SERGEANT THERE, WE HAVE A FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE.

WE HAVE A, UH, AN INVESTIGATOR WITH A TON OF EXPERIENCE IN CID.

UM, AND SO YOU CAN'T REALLY COMP EM TO A A, I MEAN, I GUESS THE, THE, THE POSITION THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A GOOD MATCH FOR WOULD BE INVESTIGATOR FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

BUT, UM, THE INVESTIGATORS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, THEY DON'T GENERALLY HAVE THIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE.

THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE WOULD GENERALLY BE PROMOTED UP BEYOND THAT BEFORE THEY'D BE SOMEBODY THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER HIRING.

UM, THEY'VE GOT SOME EXCELLENT INVESTIGATORS DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW AND, AND WE WORK WITH THEM EVERY DAY.

UM, BUT BEFORE THAT PERSON WOULD LIKELY BE SOMEBODY WE WOULD CONSIDER, THEY WOULD ALREADY BE PROMOTED UP BEYOND THAT LEVEL.

AND SO SOME OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST THE MARKET FOR THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT FOR THIS PARTICULAR POSITION.

UM, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE STAY COMPETITIVE.

SHERIFF, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND, ABOUT ON AVERAGE, AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA VARY FROM PERSON TO PERSON, BUT ABOUT ON AVERAGE, HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE DOES, UM, ONE OF YOUR GUYS HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE THEY MAKE BEFORE THEY MAKE SERGEANT? IT, IT, IT TOTALLY VARIES.

WE LIKE TO LOOK AT SEVERAL YEARS, THE MORE THE BARRIER.

BUT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IT'S BEEN QUITE LEAN.

SO THEY HAVE LESS EXPERIENCE.

THEY DESIRE SEVERAL.

IF YOU HAD TO THROW OUT A RANDOM NUMBER OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN AN IDEAL WORLD, IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU HAVE ALL THE STAFFING YOU WOULD WANT.

IS THAT 10 15? WHAT KIND OF, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS A LONELY HIGHWAY PATROLMAN, THEY LOOKED AT YOU WHEN YOU HAD ABOUT SEVEN YEARS ON FOR SERGEANT.

THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED.

OF COURSE, IN THE DARK AGE, IDEALLY YOU WOULD WANT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.

'CAUSE THEY'RE INVESTIGATING FELONIES.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, JEFF, YOU'RE SAYING THESE FOLKS NEED DECADES OF EXPERIENCE TO BE GOOD AT THEIR JOB AS A DA INVESTIGATOR.

I I ACTUALLY, I OFFERED THERE WHEN I WAS RANGER WITH THEM AND THEN I BECAME THE DA INVESTIGATOR AS WELL.

AND YOU DO WANT A CALIBER INVESTIGATOR THAT WITHOUT QUESTION, I'M NOT TRYING TO SHOOT MYSELF.

I CANNOT ARGUE.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THEN THAT WE TIE THE DA INVESTIGATOR SALARY TO THE SERGEANT'S SCALE.

AND I DON'T MAKE THAT LIGHTLY.

I RECOGNIZE IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE INVESTIGATING THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES AGAINST PARKER COUNTY CITIZENS.

AND SO FRANKLY, I WANT THE BEST OF THE BEST THERE AND WE NEED TO PAY 'EM THAT WAY.

I AGREE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLTZ.

BY COMMISSIONER COLLEY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASS THIS .

DO I NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT, THAT WHAT WE DO TODAY CAN BE OVERTURNED? NEXT SESSION? JUST CHECKING.

I I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE, I HAVE PREACHED THAT TO EVERYONE IN MY OFFICE FOR, FOR YEARS.

I ALSO HAVE THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE, UH, POSITION.

AND, AND BASICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THERE IS TO MATCH OUR, UH, OUR BUDGET ITEM, UH, FOR OUR VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR.

UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY THE SAME ROLE.

UM, AND I, I'VE MENTIONED THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THIS TO Y'ALL, UM, IN, IN OPEN SESSION BEFORE I MENTIONED IT TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

I THINK THOSE LINES SHOULD BE THE SAME.

I CAN TELL YOU MY VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR IS BRAND NEW TO THAT POSITION.

UH, THAT IS MONEY THAT'S GONNA SIT THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA GET IT BACK.

I'M NOT GONNA PAY HER AT THE TOP.

I DON'T DO THAT.

I DON'T BRING

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MY PEOPLE IN AT THE TOP.

I BRING THEM IN WHEREVER THEY THEY NEED TO BE.

BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE USE.

SO THAT'D BE MONEY Y'ALL GET BACK.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE SALARY SUPPLEMENT THING.

CORRECTING THAT.

I ACTUALLY HAD NO IDEA.

THE DISTRICT JUDGE HAS GOT A SALARY SUPPLEMENT.

SO WHEN, WHEN BRIANNA AND, AND BECKY LET ME KNOW, I WAS LIKE, OH, WELL OKAY, .

SO THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT WAS THE LAW THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT I THANK YOU ANYWAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID.

BECKY, WILL YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE UNDER SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR NOT ELECTED? OH YEAH.

UM, .

SO THE OTHER TOPIC WAS, UM, I KNOW Y'ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM SCOTT JONES REQUESTING FOR THE CONSTABLES TO STAY ON THE PAY SCALE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

COMMISSIONER HALE ASKED FOR SOME MORE INFORMATION.

I DID PROVIDE THAT TO HIM AND I BROUGHT COPIES FOR Y'ALL AS WELL.

SO TO KEEP THE CONSTABLES TO PUT THE CONSTABLES ON THAT SCALE, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $60,000.

DO Y'ALL WANT MORE PAPER? SURE.

EXTRA 16 PER CONSTABLE? NO, TO TOW TOTAL.

SO I SHOWED LIKE CURRENT SALARIES SIX AND ZERO.

ABOUT SIX.

SO I SHOWED CURRENT SALARIES.

16.

SO I SHOWED CURRENT SALARIES IF WE JUST DID 6%.

AND THE SCALE, I DID WANNA NOTE, 'CAUSE THIS WAS A QUESTION IS BECAUSE EACH CONSTABLE'S OFFICE DOES HAVE A CHIEF DEPUTY.

NO, CHIEF DEPUTIES IN A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE DOES NOT EQUAL A CHIEF DEPUTY IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

YEARS AGO COURT, UM, IT WAS ASKED THAT Y'ALL CLASSIFY A CONSTABLE CHIEF DEPUTY THE SAME AS A, UH, CORPORAL.

SO THAT IS STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.

AND ALSO RECOGNIZING THE LATERAL REQUEST THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SOMEBODY WANT TO TALK.

YOU JUST LOOKING AT THEM.

WELL, I, I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA HAVE CONCERNS WITH HIS CURRENT PAY SCALE FOR THE, UH, TRANSPORT DEPUTIES.

THIS WOULD HE FEELS CREATE ISSUES.

AT, AT THE URGING OF SOME OF THESE COURT MEMBERS, WE MODIFIED OUR PAY SCALE, WHICH WAS, WHICH ALL TENTATIVELY APPROVED.

UH, AND THAT WAS WITH OUR COURTHOUSE SECURITY POSITIONS, OUR EXTRADITION IN ANOTHER POSITION AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS TO GET MORE IN LINE WITH, UH, WE CALL THEM SUPPORTS.

GOT EVERYBODY SCARED.

YOU SAID IT TENTATIVELY WELL 'CAUSE ANYTHING CAN BE UNDONE WHAT I SAY UNTIL IT'S FINALLY APPROVED.

BUT I KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL DID APPROVE IT HERE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT UH, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S JUST EVERYBODY STARTED SNOWBALLING TOO AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT IT.

SO I WANT IT.

BUT UM, WE THOUGHT WE CAME UP WITH A FAIR SCALE THAT COULD HOLD OTHER POSITIONS AS WELL, WHETHER THAT'S THE BAILIFFS OR DEPUTY CONSTABLES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THAT, UH, SUPPORT SERVICES SCALE.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO AWAY WITH THAT, THEN I'D LIKE TO TAKE MY PEOPLE OFF OF THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.

J UH, SHERIFF? SURE.

I THINK THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NECESSITY FOR A FEMALE TRANSPORT OFFICER WITH THE CONSTABLE.

WELL, A FEMALE ATTENDANT IS WHAT THE STATUTE READS IT TO AN OFFICER.

THAT FEMALE ATTENDANT? UM, TOTAL COST WOULD BE 122,000 WITH SALARIES AND BENEFITS PLUS VEHICLE PLUS VEHICLE AND OUTFIT.

SORRY.

THAT FEMALE ATTENDANT.

SO THE PARKER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, Y'ALL HAVE THOSE AND UTILIZE THOSE PRETTY REGULAR? WE, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF FEMALE DEPUTIES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE GUARDS.

UH, LASALLE HAS PROBABLY TWO DOZEN FEMALE GUARDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, $34 AN HOUR GUARD HIRE.

THEY'RE AVAILABLE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

A TRANS MORE, MORE PRISONERS PROBABLY IN TWO WEEKS THAN, THAN MOST ANY, ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE WHOLE COUNTY DOES.

UH, THEY'RE VERY CAPABLE WHAT THEY DO.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? BECKY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD? NO THOUGHTS.

WHAT WAS THE TOTAL THAT WE APPROVED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL POSITION FOR

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TWO COMPUTERS.

HUH? LAPTOP.

THE, THE REQUEST WAS FOR TWO.

YEAH, I SAW THAT.

CLEAN.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS ADDING HERE, BUT I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO THINK THROUGH IT I THINK.

THANK YOU BECKY.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE AND, AND THESE ARE IMPORTANT FOLKS SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT LIGHTLY.

UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY, NEXT.

UM, THE ONLY THE OTHER THINGS THAT I NOTATED ON HERE WAS THE DISCUSSION OF THE IT MAPPING POSITION THAT WAS SCORED HIGH IN COMMITTEE.

UM, AND A COUNTY ENGINEER.

I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SEAN HERE FROM JP ONE THAT WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SPEAK ON HER OFFICE AS WELL.

I THINK WE PURPOSELY SET THOSE ASIDE FOR THE END.

THE OTHER THING I DID WANT TO BRING UP, I THOUGHT BUILDING AND GROUNDS WOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

BECKY, CAN WE PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND? SURE.

DO YOU MIND? SURE.

SO BIANCA, CAN YOU UM, ADVISE ON ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT COMMISSIONER WALDEN BROUGHT UP THE END, WE'RE AT AUGUST 22ND, RIGHT? OR SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG DAY.

WE'RE AT AUGUST 25TH RIGHT NOW AND THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE FINALIZING AND ADOPTING THE BUDGET ON THE 28TH OF SEPTEMBER.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING APPROVALS THAT DAY.

THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.

REALISTICALLY SPEAKING, WHEN IS THE LAST BUDGET COURT THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS ON APPROVING THIS, NOT APPROVING THAT? THE LAST SCHEDULED COURT MEETING OR THE PRIOR ONE? BEFORE THE 28TH IS THE 22ND.

AND THAT'S THE HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AS WELL.

THAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S GONNA BE A HEAVY FOCUS OF THAT MEETING.

NOW WE CAN SCHEDULE ANOTHER ONE IF WE NEED TO.

THIS UH, WEEK OF THE EIGHTH OR THE 15TH, I SHOW THAT WE HAVE A MEETING AS A CLEANUP FIRST, WHICH IS A WEEK FROM TODAY ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

YES MA'AM.

WE DO HAVE A BUDGET COURT ON THAT DATE FOR, AND THAT'S VOTE ON TAX RATE AND VOTE ON GRIEVANCE.

SO WE HAVE THE FIRST, WE HAVE THE 22ND, SECOND AND THE 28TH.

SO WE HAVE THREE MEETINGS AFTER TODAY.

I THINK NEXT WEEK ON THE FIRST.

I MEAN I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW IF WE ADD SOMETHING EITHER THAT FOLLOWING WEEK OR THE NEXT WEEK.

BUT WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, NORMALLY WHAT WE DO ON THAT DAY IS GIVE YOU ALL A PRELIMINARY FINAL.

SO AT THAT POINT THE HOPE IS ALL DECISION MAKING'S DONE.

YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT ONCE YOU GUYS FINISH IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND ADDING SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND BALANCING AND USUALLY DURING THAT TIME, SOMETIMES SOMETHING WILL COME UP RIGHT WHEN WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS.

AND SO THEN AT THAT LAST ONE BEFORE THE ADOPTION, IT'S CLARIFICATION JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOOD.

YOU HAVE A FINAL NUMBER THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ADOPTING.

AND SO WHEN WE GO TO THAT 28TH COURT, REALLY THAT'S JUST PROCEDURAL THAT WE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTE, YOU'RE ADOPTING AND TAKING ALL THOSE STEPS, BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES.

AND SO THE HOPE IS ALSO ON THAT 22ND, THE SAME THING.

IT'S, YOU HAVE A PRELIMINARY FINAL, WE'RE JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, FINAL STEPS OF GETTING EVERYTHING IN AND BALANCE.

SO I WOULD SAY NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN REALLY WE NEED TO HAVE OUR DECISIONS DONE EITHER BY NEXT WEEK THE FIRST OR THEN CALL ONE.

WE SCHEDULE ONE ON THE EIGHTH OR THE 15TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

IS WHAT ALL DECISIONS ARE STILL SITTING OUT THERE SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO MEET ON THE EIGHTH OR THE 15TH.

SO I MEAN, I, I KNOW DATE WISE OR CALENDAR WISE, WE, WE HAVE SOME LEEWAY STILL, BUT NUMBER OF MEETINGS WISE WE HAVE THIS MEETING AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING AND AT THE END OF THE, THAT MEETING WE NEED TO BE DONE BASICALLY.

AND IT'S, AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UM, SALARIES AND BENEFITS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO FINALIZING THOSE NUMBERS, GETTING THEM IN THE BUDGET AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE ALL OF THAT IS IS SET IS IS IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE A CLARIFICATION OR A ROLLOVER ITEM FOR CAP, NON CAP, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AREN'T AS SIGNIFICANT AS IF YOU'RE MAKING SALARY AND BENEFIT CHANGES THAT THAT ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE 'CAUSE IT CAN AFFECT MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES AND IT'S JUST NOT WANTING TO MISS ANYTHING AND MAKING SURE THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.

OBJECT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GIG, WHAT YOU NEED? WELL I JUST, I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AT THE END OF TODAY'S MEETING BEFORE WE LEAVE

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I WOULD IMAGINE WE NEED SOME HEADS UP OR NOT OR THE WEEK, THOSE WEEKS.

UM, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FINISH EVERYTHING BASICALLY BY NEXT WEEK.

SO WE COULD PRO, I COULD, WE COULD PROVIDE PROBABLY AN UPDATE ON THE FIRST AND THAT'LL GIVE US TIME.

THE THREE BUSINESS DAYS NEEDED TO POST FOR THE WEEK OF THE EIGHTH IF WE NEED TO OR DO YOU WANT IT PRIOR TO THAT? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I KNOW MY SCHEDULE FILLS UP PRETTY EARLY.

I WOULD IMAGINE EVERYONE IN HERE, RIGHT? NOT JUST US, BUT EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE FILLS UP AS WELL.

SO, UM, PART OF THAT ALSO IS JUST A DESIRE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THESE DECISIONS ON THESE POSITIONS.

THE IT ANALYST AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, OR SORRY, THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

WELL I'LL WORK WITH KIM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET YOU A LESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE THE COURT DOES NEED TO DISCUSS THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO TODAY JUST BECAUSE WE DO, WE ARE LIMITED IN NUMBER OF MM-HMM .

SESSIONS WE HAVE LEFT.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP BECKY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ANALYST FOR THE GI IS POSITION? YES.

SO IN DISCUSSING THAT WITH JAMES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED WITH JAMES ABOUT QUITE A BIT.

I'VE TALKED WITH UH, JASON LANE ABOUT THAT THAT PERSON WILL BE ADDING GIS MAPPING CAPABILITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING I IMAGINE THE SO COULD USE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COULD USE.

I KNOW WE COULD PROBABLY INTEGRATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE PRECINCT BARN LOCATION TO HELP TRACK REPAIR REQUESTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND THEN I'M, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IN JAMES'S ABILITY TO KEEP THAT PERSON WORKING HARD EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE THE SYSTEM SET UP.

I THINK THAT'S ONE I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON UNLESS THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED.

SO WE WOULD BUDGET THE SALARY AT 88,000.

I KNOW JAMES IS ANOTHER GREAT ONE.

OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY'RE GONNA BE PAID THAT JUST WHERE WE THINK WE SHOULD BUDGET AND UH, BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE TO GET THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR.

I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ADD THAT POSITION AT THAT 88,000 PLUS NECESSARY ADDITIONAL COSTS.

AND THAT DID SCORE A 4.8 FROM COMMITTEE.

JUST THIS IS A, UH, POSITION THAT HE, UH, HE TOOK AWAY A POSITION LAST YEAR.

HE DID.

AND THIS IS ADDING THAT POSITION BACK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR AS PART OF MY MOTION IT WOULD BE IF THEY NEED A LAPTOP AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK THIS POSITION WOULD NEED A VEHICLE.

YES MA'AM.

THOUSAND, YES.

INCLUSIVE OF THAT AS WELL.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE.

OH, VEHICLE ATTACHED.

THERE WAS OR THERE WAS NOT.

IS THAT A CHEVY TRACKX? YES.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST IN GENERAL.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS TIED TO THIS VEHICLE.

OR I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THAT VEHICLE WAS FOR THE IT DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL THAT WASN'T TIED TO THIS POSITION.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS TIED TO THE POSITION.

OH, I COULD BE WRONG.

THAT WAS THREE .

CAN I RETRO? I GUESS I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT AS WELL THEN.

SO MOVED.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALTON.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN PAPER.

CURIOUS ABOUT, I'M PREPARED TO, TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE, UH, COUNTY ENGINEER.

Y'ALL, THE COMMITTEE SCORED A 4.5.

UNLESS THERE'S SOME REASON WHY WE CAN'T GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHY WE'D WANT TO KEEP PUTTING IT OFF.

YOU WANT, I KNOW THAT WE MAKE ROOM FOR COUNTY ENGINEER.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PUTTING THAT OFF WOULD BE TO JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE TOTAL WISE.

SOME THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, ONCE WE, YEAH, A MOTION WE MAKE TODAY CAN BE REVERSED.

NEXT COURT MOTION MAY BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND BACK TO MR. ALT.

ANY OTHER THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES FIVE.

OH, SEAN, SEAN, DO YOU WANT NOTHING? SO, I KNOW SHAWN LITH IS HERE FOR JP ONE.

YOU KNOW, LOTS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT

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THAT.

UH, ORIGINALLY THE ASK WAS FOR A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THOUGHT, WELL, THERE WAS A SPACE ISSUE.

ONCE THAT IS ADDRESSED, THEN PROBABLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE LATER.

SO I BELIEVE THE CONVERSATION DID KIND OF SHIFT TO A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE.

AND I JUST DO WANNA NOTATE, AND THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I ACTUALLY LOVE ABOUT BUDGET IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AS A WHOLE, WHEN JUDGE GRISSOM STOOD UP HERE AND OFFERED TO USE, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUND FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION THAT SAVED $40,000, THAT WOULD HELP OFFSET A PART-TIME FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

SO FOR OFFICES TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HOW IT CAN HELP ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT, THAT COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE FUNDING.

WHAT UP ? SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M, IF YOU WOULD GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MIC.

SORRY.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PART-TIME PERSON? I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON.

YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ONE OF .

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE YOU A PART-TIME ONE, BUT THAT, THAT WILL WORK.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

AND THE MOTION IS FOR A PART-TIME, PART-TIME PARTTIME.

JP WON NOT TO EXCEED SO MANY HOURS, I BELIEVE IS THE 7 27 HOURS.

THERE, THERE'S A DESK.

I WILL STILL NEED A DESK.

THERE'S A DESK THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL.

WHERE YOU GONNA PUT, WE GONNA PUT A DESK AND A CHAIR.

AND A CHAIR.

A FIVE GALLON BAG.

IS THERE ANYTHING, ALL, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS.

DOES IT INCLUDE THE OTHER ACT? ARE THINGS NO, IT'S JUST THE PERSON.

WELL, WE CAN'T QUITE HIRE THE PERSON WITHOUT THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.

AND A CHAIR AND A COMPUTER.

I'M GONNA FIND THE SPOT.

WE'VE GOT ROOM.

SO TO CLARIFY HERE, YOU NEED THE RESOURCES TO GO WITH IT.

DESK, A DESK AND A CHAIR.

A COMPUTER COMPUTER.

IF YOU GOT ROOM, WHY DO YOU NEED A REMODELED BUILDING? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL IN FAVOR, GEORGE.

KEEP TALKING 'CAUSE YOU'RE MAKING HER MORE ANGRY AT YOU.

CARRIE'S FIVE.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, THE OTHER REQUEST THAT I DID WANNA POINT OUT IS THE PART-TIME LINE FOR BUILDING AND GROUNDS.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE MID-YEAR WHERE Y'ALL ALLOWED SOME MONEY FOR, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HIRE PART-TIME HELP TO HELP WITH LAWN MAINTENANCE.

SO THAT'S ONLY FUNDED THROUGH FISCAL 26.

THEY DID PUT IT IN THEIR WORKBOOK TO ADD, UM, $30,000 TO THEIR PART-TIME LINE SO THEY COULD CONTINUE ADDITIONAL HELP FOR LAWN AND MAINTENANCE.

UM, IT'S CURRENTLY, WE'RE TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR IT, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THERE'S NO FUNDING AFTER SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO I'M ASKING FOR COURT TO EITHER MAKE THE DECISION.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION NOW? NO, IT'S VACANT.

THEY DID, BUT THEY ROLLED THEM INTO A FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN POSITION.

I SEE.

I'M GONNA MOVE.

WE APPROVE THAT PART-TIME LINE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? FOLLOW FAVOR.

CURIOUS .

UM, THE LAST ITEM THAT I JUST HAVE ON THE LIST FOR Y'ALL IS THE CONSIDERATION OF INSTEAD OF A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR JP TWO TO ALLOW FOR A PART-TIME.

AND THEN I'M DONE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? JP TWO ORIGINALLY REQUESTED A FULL-TIME.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR A FULL-TIME THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT I BELIEVE JUDGE GREEN LAST TIME HE SPOKE, WAS OPEN TO A PART-TIME POSITION AS WELL.

IF THE COURT GRANTED, AND WE HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM ANYTHING OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

NO.

HOW DID IT SCORE? WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT.

I, WE DIDN'T SCORE BECAUSE IT, THE REQUEST WAS A FULL-TIME.

SO THE FULL-TIME SCORED A, I BELIEVE A ONE.

SO A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'LL BE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, PART-TIME, IT IT KIND OF A BABY STEP TO HELP NEXT YEAR MAKE THAT POSITION A FULL-TIME.

DOES, DOES THAT SPLIT IT UP OVER TWO YEARS? DOES THAT COURT HAVE THAT SAME BUDGET OR, OR, UH, THAT GROSS TECHNOLOGY? TECHNOLOGY BUDGET.

TECHNOLOGY BUDGET? THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE DOLLARS THAT JP THREE HAS FOR PART-TIME, RIGHT? NOT TO I DON'T, NO SUPPLEMENT.

YEAH, THEY ALREADY PAY IT.

THE SUPPLEMENT.

THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COURTS HAS.

JP THREE'S TECHNOLOGY FUND IS QUITE A BIT LARGER

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HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO OFFSET ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL ON PAPER.

IS THAT ONE OF THE GRIEVANCE OFFICES? SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA END UP BEING UNTIL NEXT WEEK TOO.

MOVE TO ADAM MELO.

AND ONE, ONE ADDITIONAL ON THERE, AND BECKY AND I SPOKE ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND MAYBE FOR THE FIRST, SO, UM, THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD SB 22.

UM, AND SO THOSE ARE BEING APPLIED FOR AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, JUST TO HAVE THAT APPROVAL FROM COURT, GETTING A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE SALARIES.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT IS, UM, LAST YEAR BOTH OF THEM HAD ASKED FOR THE COLA TO BE PLACED ON NOT ONLY THEIR BASE SALARY, BUT ALSO THEIR SB 22 SALARY AMOUNTS.

AND SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE A DECISION THAT THE COURT WILL NEED TO MAKE ON THAT AS WELL.

WE ALREADY MADE THAT DECISION LAST YEAR, DID WE NOT? YES, BUT EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO, IT'S STILL HAVING TO ASK AND REAPPROPRIATE, UM, THOSE FUNDS AND APPROVE THOSE BUDGETS.

SO, AND WE CAN DO THAT TUESDAY.

YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE A, A BUDGET SO Y'ALL CAN SEE WHO'S ALREADY GETTING THOSE SUPPLEMENTS.

AND THEN WHAT THE EFFECT WILL BE.

I THINK THE THING THAT WE KINDA GET BOGGED DOWN ON IS, UH, WE APPROVE IT FOR ONE AND THEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE.

WELL, I CAN TAKE A PART TIME TOO.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S HOW THAT FLOW ALONG AB ABSOLUTELY.

UH, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS OKAY.

[V.L. Additional Employee Salary Requests and/or New Positions. (Becky McCullough / Judge Deen)]

MOVE TO ITEM MAIL ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE SALARY REQUEST AND OUR NEW POSITIONS.

ANYTHING? NOTHING.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

MOVE TO ITEM IN ON SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND PROJECTS.

BRIANNA, ANYTHING? COME ON UP.

I AM HERE TO PERMIT YOU WITH THE JUVENILE PROBATION JJ BUDGET.

IT WAS APPROVED BY THE JUVENILE ON AUGUST 21ST.

COULD WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THIS BEFORE NOW? NO.

AND LET ME TELL YOU THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR WHAT FUNDING WE'RE GONNA GET FROM THE STATE TO FINISH UP OUR BUDGET.

AND THEY TYPICALLY WAIT TILL THE VERY LAST MINUTE TO TELL US WHAT TJJD DOES, THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DOES.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT THEIR MERCY OF WHEN THEY TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO HELP FUND OUR DEPARTMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, YES, SIR.

I DON'T LOVE WAITING TILL THE LAST MINUTE EITHER.

UM, JUST TO REVIEW THE JUVENILE PROBATION TO BUDGET, UH, WHICH IS THE FIRST IN THE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU.

UM, I TRIED TO MAKE IT LARGE ENOUGH WHERE YOU COULD, UM, SEE IT.

OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST TWO PAGES ARE SALARY AND FRINGE.

UM, THEN WE MOVE INTO DETENTION AND POST ADJUDICATION PROGRAMMING.

THOSE ARE FOR OUR DETENTION BEDS AND FOR POST ADJUDICATION, WHICH MEANS FOR THOSE JUVENILES THAT ARE REMOVED FROM THE HOME AND THE COMMUNITY AND PUT IN LONG TERM SECURE FACILITIES, UH, BASED UPON THEIR OFFENSES AND BEHAVIORS OF NO SURPRISE, BOTH OF THE COSTS OF, UM, THOSE HAVE GONE UP.

OUR DETENTION BEDS ROUGHLY RANGE WITH THE, OUR PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH ANYWHERE BETWEEN $250 A DAY TO 350 A DOLLARS A DAY PER JUVENILE.

OUR POST ADJUDICATION PROGRAMS, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEY'RE THERE, TYPICALLY SIX TO NINE MONTHS CAN RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN ROUGHLY 55,000 TO $75,000 PER JUVENILE THAT IS PLACED BY THE COURT IN A POST ADJUDICATION FACILITY.

WE ALSO HAVE NON-SECURE POST ADJUDICATION FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED A BIT FOR, AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, DRUG REHABS AND A, UM, PLACEMENT FOR SEXUAL OFFENDERS.

THAT IS NOT SECURE.

WE DO NOT USE THE NON-SECURE ONE, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT BUDGETED IN CASE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COURTS ORDERED.

THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS, CONTRACTUAL PORTION OF IT.

THAT'S FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE ON JUVENILES FOR COURT, UM, INCLUDING PSYCHOSEXUAL EVALUATIONS, WHICH HELP PROVIDE THE COURT APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT JUVENILE SHOULD REMAIN IN THE COMMUNITY OR FOR SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY BE REMOVED.

WE HAVE POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS BECAUSE THOSE JUVENILES THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED FOR A SEXUAL OFFENSE, WE DO MULTIPLE POLYGRAPHS ON THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THEIR SUPERVISION TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO RE-OFFENDING OCCURRING, UM, AND THAT THEY ARE STAYING ON THE RIGHT TRACK GOING INTO COMMUNITY-BASED PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE

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OUR GENERAL CONTRACTS FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT REALLY RELATE TO DIRECT COUNSELING.

UM, WE HAVE BILINGUAL COUNSELORS, WE HAVE VIRTUAL ASSESSMENTS THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, AGAIN, JUST LIKE WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR.

WE'RE UTILIZING FUNCTIONAL FAMILY THERAPY WITH LENA POPE, WHICH IS COUNSELING IN WHICH THEY GO IN THE HOME AND WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE FAMILY IN THE HOME TO SEE THE HOME DYNAMIC TO OFFER SUGGESTIONS.

UM, LAKEISHA WASHINGTON.

SHE IS OUR LICENSED SEX OFFENDER TREATMENT PROVIDER THAT COMES TO PARKER COUNTY TO CONTINUE TREATMENT AND THERAPY FOR THOSE JUVENILES THAT HAVE REMAINED IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH A SEXUAL OFFENSE.

AND SO YOU WILL SEE THROUGHOUT THAT, THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY-BASED PROGRAMMING.

UM, AND WE HAVE A NEW CONTRACT THIS YEAR WITH LENA POPE FOR PROJECT SAFER.

THAT IS FOR THOSE YOUNGER CHILDREN THAT ARE ROUGHLY 11 TO 13 YEARS OLD, UM, THAT HAVE STARTED HAVING SOME SEXUAL ACTING OUT BEHAVIORS.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO SERVE THEM VERY EARLY ON, UM, GOING INTO YOUTH SERVICES.

THAT INCLUDES, UM, ITEMS LIKE INCENTIVES, UM, GED GRADUATIONS, UM, ALSO OUR ELECTRONIC MONITORING AND OUR UA LAB TESTING.

UM, BOTH DIP AND LAB FOR, FOR DRUG SCREENINGS INTO OTHER OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.

THAT INCLUDES JUVENILE BOARD MEETINGS.

UM, CRCG, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE COORDINATION GROUP, WHICH IS FACILITATED BY THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT FOR EMERGENCY HIGH RISK CASES THAT WE NEED TO PRESENT, UH, TO OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO GET THEIR SUGGESTIONS AS WELL ON, UM, GETTING A FAMILY AND A JUVENILE CONNECTED WITH APPROPRIATE SERVICES.

YOU'LL SEE THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH TOLL TAGS AND FOOD, UM, REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE TRANSPORTING THE JUVENILES VEHICLES, OBVIOUSLY VERY BASIC, INCLUDING GAS, OIL, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, SAFETY AND SECURITY EQUIPMENT.

UH, THAT INCLUDES OUR HANDHELD WANDS, PANIC BUTTONS, HANDCUFFS, SHACKLES, UM, AND BODY CAMS THAT THE OFFICERS ARE WEARING WHEN THEY ARE GOING INTO THE HOME.

LASTLY, ON THE LAST PAGE, YOU WILL SEE UTILITIES THAT INCLUDES TELEPHONE, INTERNET, AND OUR HOTSPOTS, AND THEN OFFICE, UM, WHICH INCLUDES OFFICE SUPPLIES, UM, FURNITURE, ET CETERA.

SO AS YOU WILL SEE AT THE BOTTOM, I'M ASKING FOR A FLAT BUDGET.

I'M ASKING FOR NO INCREASE TO THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

I DO WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT REMAINS EXTREMELY DILIGENT ABOUT, UM, APPLYING FOR ANY FUNDS THAT WE CAN QUALIFY FOR TO OFFSET ANY COST TO PARKER COUNTY.

THIS LAST YEAR ALONE, WE COLLECTED $43,864 IN DETENTION REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

AND FOR THOSE JUVENILES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME AND PLACED IN LONG-TERM SECURE FACILITIES, WE COLLECTED A REVENUE OF $452,571 IN REIMBURSEMENTS FROM TJJD.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE JUVENILE PROBATION BUDGET OF THE, OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR? MM-HMM .

I PROBABLY ASKED THAT.

DID YOU EXPEND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OR DID YOU TURN SOME BACK, IS WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK? UM, NO SIR.

IN FACT, UM, WE DID NOT SPEND ENOUGH .

WE HAVE A LOCAL BUDGET, A MATCH THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO MEET WITH THE STATE MM-HMM .

SO AT THE VERY END OF THE YEAR, WE HAD TO SPEND SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY SO THAT WE WEREN'T EITHER GIVING THAT MONEY BACK AND GETTING PARKER COUNTY DING DINGED RATHER FOR BEING A LITTLE TOO FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE GOT SO MUCH MONEY IN REIMBURSEMENT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE DID NOT SPEND ALL OF THE MONEY.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU DID EXPEND? UM, I DO NOT HAVE A PERCENTAGE IDEA.

UH, I I'M SORRY, I I SHOULDN'T HAVE, UH, SPRUNG THAT ON YOU.

UM, YOU, I ACTUALLY, I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT WE HAVE IN TOTAL YEAR TO DATE SPENT AND ENCUMBRANCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ENCUMBRANCES DO NOT, DO NOT GUARANTEE THAT WE NEED TO USE THOSE, THOSE THAT OPEN AMOUNT.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE SPENT YEAR TO DATE WITH ENCUMBRANCES IS $1,350,000.

UM, BUT WITH REIMBURSEMENT, AGAIN, WHAT WE ACTUALLY WILL HAVE SPENT IS $850,000.

AND AS A REMINDER, WE FUND THAT DEPARTMENT BASED ON A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO WE ONLY TRANSFER THE AMOUNT OF ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.

SO WE WAIT TILL EVERYTHING, UM, IS FINALIZED WITH ALL OF OUR REPORTS, UM, FOR JUVENILE PROBATION, AND THEN WE JUST MOVE THAT AMOUNT.

SO ANY ADDITIONAL THAT IS BUDGETED THERE ROLLS INTO THE FUND BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PLAN FOR PROJECT SAFER.

IT'S A 16 TO 18 WEEK PROGRAM THAT SERVES YOUNGER JUVENILES.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? A LITTLE, JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE? YES.

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IT GIVES THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE COURTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE KIDS THAT ARE REALLY YOUNG, THAT DON'T NEED TO BE SO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM AND THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM.

UM, AND THEIR, THEIR OFFENSES AREN'T AT A LEVEL NECESSARILY WHERE AN EGREGIOUS SEXUAL OFFENSE HAS OCCURRED, BUT THEY HAVE EXHIBITED SOME SEXUAL ACTING OUT BEHAVIORS.

SO LENA POPE COMES IN WITH LICENSE COUNSELORS, ALSO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE VICTIM TO, TO REALLY KIND OF GET THEM BACK ON TRACK AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ACTUALLY.

WELL, TO MOVE ON TO THE JJAP BUDGET, WHICH IS, UH, NEXT IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, JUST TO REVIEW, UM, AS WE GO DOWN THE LINE ITEMS, OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL SEE THE SECTION THERE THAT IS JUST A FRINGE FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND OUR, UM, SALARIED, OR EXCUSE ME, FULL-TIME SALARIED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COUNTY.

UM, THEN WE MOVE INTO OUR CONTRACT SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

AND THAT IS FOR THE TEACHER AND PARA FROM WEATHERFORD ISD.

WE, AGAIN, LIKE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, REIMBURSED FOR THOSE COSTS FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES.

WE'VE INCLUDED CONTRACT SERVICES IN THERE, UM, BECAUSE WE, UH, CERTAINLY HAVE TO PROVIDE, UM, COUNSELING.

WE ARE DOING GED TESTING THERE.

UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY, PAY FOR THE EDGENUITY EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT THEY USE ON, UH, THE COMPUTERS THERE.

THEN WE MOVE INTO UTILITIES FOR YOU TO SEE HOW MUCH WE ARE SPENDING, UM, ROUGHLY, UM, IN ELECTRICITY, WATER, SEWER, UH, INTERNET HOTSPOT, AND TELEPHONE.

WE ALSO HAVE A TRAINING AND TRAVEL BUDGET BECAUSE THOSE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, UM, ARE REQUIRED TO DO A MANDATED NUMBER OF TRAINING HOURS EVERY YEAR LOOKING AT OFFICE AND EQUIPMENT RENTAL.

WE HAVE THE MONTHLY LEASE OF THAT OFFICE SPACE THERE AT WILLOW PARK, WHICH IS ROUGHLY $56,000.

THEN WE HAVE THE TRIPLE NET OF INSURANCE, REAL ESTATE TAX AND COMMON AREA FEES OF $12,000.

AND THEN WE HAVE EQUIPMENT RENTAL WITH OUR PRINTER AND COPIER OF $8,000.

IF YOU SEE THE REPORT THAT COMES OUT, UH, MONTHLY ABOUT OUR OVERAGES, THAT WAS BECAUSE THE JJEP JOINED THAT CONTRACT LATE IN THE GAME.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE GOING OVER ON OUR COPIES, IT IS THAT THEY ARE BILLED PER COPY THERE AT THE J-J-A-E-P.

UM, YOU'LL SEE JUST THE TYPICAL, UM, AUTOMOBILE ALLOWANCES FOR VEHICLE GAS AND OIL, AND THEN AGAIN, SECURITY EQUIPMENT INCLUDING HANDHELD WANDS, THE METAL DETECTOR, WALKIE TALKIES, UM, BODY CAMS, PANIC BUTTONS.

UM, AND WE DID INSTALL THIS SCHOOL YEAR THE AIR QUALITY SENSORS FOR, UH, VAPE DETECTION IN THE BATHROOM.

LET ME STOP YOU THERE FOR A MINUTE.

GO BACK TO THE BUILDING, THE $76,000 THAT WE'RE LEASING.

56 56.

I KNOW IT'S 56.

BUT YOU ADD THAT OTHER STUFF IN THERE.

WHAT'S THAT? ADDS UP TO THE 76,000.

UM, I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT IT ADDS UP TO.

HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING LEASING THAT BUILDING? UM, CURRENTLY, IF I WILL SAY IF WE MOVED TO, UM, 1105 SANTA FE DRIVE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE EXPENSES FOR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, WHICH I WILL GO OVER LATER.

UM, THE $56,000 LEASE AND THE $12,000 ESCROW FOR A TOTAL OF $218,000.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, INCLUDING THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

IF WE WAS TO MOVE, WE COULD GET RID OF THAT.

YES, YES.

UM, IN ADDITION, IF WE MOVE, WE CAN DO AWAY WITH ONE OF THE POSITIONS, UM, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE JJP BUDGET FOR A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL PO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, STAFFING RATIOS.

AND SO IF WE REMOVE, AGAIN, THAT SALARY AND THOSE ADDITIONAL, UM, FRINGE AND BENEFITS, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF $110,000.

I'VE BEEN WANTING TO GET RID OF THAT BUILDING FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT ANY MORE EXPENSE INTO IT WITH THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

ELECTRONIC, UH, EQUIPMENT FOR THE CHROMEBOOKS.

UM, MOVING INTO OPERATING EXPENSES, THAT OBVIOUSLY GOES, UH, TO OUR FOOD AND INCENTIVES AND, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY ITEMS THAT WE PROVIDE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT WITH ALITO FOR THEM TO PROVIDE US FOOD.

THAT AMOUNT HAS BEEN GREATLY REDUCED AS TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL, UH, WAS BUDGETED FOR THE FIRST TIME.

UM, BECAUSE OF CHANGING IN THE WAY THOSE MEALS ARE FUNDED AND HOW KIDS QUALIFY FOR FREE AND REDUCED LUNCHES.

WE, WE ARE SPENDING MINIMAL AMOUNTS ON, ON FOOD ACTUALLY AT THE JJAP, UM, OFFICE SUPPLIES AND POSTAGE.

AND THEN YOUR

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THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A FLAT BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

HOWEVER, I DID PUT AN ADDITIONAL $150,000 IN HERE THAT IF WE REMAIN AT THIS LOCATION, WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IN A BUILDING THAT WE RENT.

WE HAVE TO INSTALL THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, NOT JUST FOR JJP, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING BECAUSE THE CITY OF WILLOW PARK LOOKS AT THAT AS A SCHOOL AND IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY OF WILLOW PARK.

IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD.

IF WE WERE MOVE, IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO THE LOCATION, UM, THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, UM, I DID WANT TO NOTE AS WELL, JUST SO YOU WILL, UM, AGAIN, HAVE, UH, IDEAS ABOUT OUR REVENUE AND INCLUSION, UM, ON THIS.

SO TOTAL STATE REVENUE WE RECEIVED FROM TJJD FOR REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THOSE MANDATORY STATE BEDS WAS $117,176.

TOTAL.

ISD REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED IN REVENUE FROM OUR PARTNERING ISDS WAS $57,000 885.

OUR TOTAL OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT WE SPENT THIS LAST SCHOOL YEAR AT JJAP WAS $444,000.

IF YOU TAKE THE TOTAL COST MINUS THE REVENUE, THE COST OF RUNNING THE JJAP LAST YEAR FOR THE COUNTY WAS $270,000.

DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER THERE TO, TO BREAK OUT THE 57 885 AMONGST WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS OUT? I DON'T.

I DO NOT.

I I DON'T HAVE THAT.

I TOP YOUR HEAD.

DO YOU KNOW WHICH, WHICH ONES DID? THE ONES WHO USED US THE MOST WERE WEATHERFORD.

WEATHERFORD USED US THE MOST.

SPRINGTOWN, UM, ALITO JUST STARTED REALLY USING US KIND OF AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN THIS SCHOOL YEAR, TWO OF WHICH ARE FROM ALITO.

UM, ONE FROM WEATHERFORD, ONE FROM STER, AND ONE FROM SPRINGTOWN.

AND THAT IS FOR THE BEGINNING OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

BUT I, I DON'T JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE BREAKDOWN WAS OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR, BUT WEATHERFORD CONTRIBUTED, SPRINGTOWN CONTRIBUTED.

REALLY THE ONES THAT, UM, HAVE NOT U UTILIZED US ARE, UH, GARNER, WHICH WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT OF USAGE.

AND, UH, VILLE DID YOU SAY MOST OF THE KIDS THOUGH ARE FROM BY PERCENTAGE OR FROM PRECINCT FOUR IS WHAT I HEARD.

I, I I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE JJP BUDGET? IT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR, UH, FIVE KIDS.

WELL, WE, UH, WE RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ENROLLED.

LAST YEAR WHEN I SPOKE TO THE AMOUNT, $270,000, WE SERVED 17 KIDS.

FOR THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS.

UH, TWO OF WHICH WERE GRADUATED.

11, UM, HAVE RETURNED TO THEIR HOME CAMPUS.

AND, UH, FOUR STARTED THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH US AGAIN.

AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TO A LARGE DEGREE, THIS IS MANDATED BY STATUTE MM-HMM .

UM, I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU HAD, YOU'RE, IF, IF YOU HAD COMPLETE AUTHORITY OVER THIS, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T COST THE COUNTY NEARLY THIS MUCH.

UM, SITTING WHERE WE'RE SITTING THOUGH IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIND EVERY PENNY WE CAN IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

I I HAVE TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHERE THIS IS LOOKING A LOT LIKE A TCU EDUCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT IT'S WHAT IT IS.

SO, WELL APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THERE.

HOW MANY OF THESE, UH, HOW MANY OF THESE FIVE STUDENTS ARE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS? I HAVE FOUR.

FOUR OF THESE ARE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS? YES.

AND HOW MANY OF THE, UM, STUDENTS THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR DURING THE YEAR WERE MANDATORY PLACEMENTS? UM, I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU INCORRECTLY, THE NUMBERS.

I HAD THAT, BUT I FORGOT.

UM, I JUST BASED UPON NUMBERS OF REIMBURSEMENT ALONE, THE MAJORITY, UM, OF THE 17, UM, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY MISSPEAK, BUT I THINK, UH, 12 OUT OF THIS, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM WERE YES.

REMEMBER THE, THE MAJORITY WERE ALSO, GO AHEAD.

OH, GO AHEAD SIR.

SO WE'RE STARTING WITH FIVE AND THESE, THESE KIDS ARE COMING IN DURING THE, DURING THE ENTIRETY OF THE YEAR, BUT OUR EXPENSES STAY THE SAME, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WE WERE PAYING FOR PEOPLE, WHETHER THEIR NUMBERS WERE THERE OR NOT.

UM, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED FOR US.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I WANNA ADD TO WHAT, TO TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, BECAUSE OF THOSE LEGISLATIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, UH, NOW IT, UH, IS A SITUATION WHERE THE FA STUDENT DOES SOMETHING OFF CAMPUS, IT NOW QUALIFIES TO GOING TO A JJP THAT DRASTICALLY CHANGES THE NUMBER THAT COULD GO UP ABSOLUTELY OVERNIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

HAPPENED ON THE CAMPUS, THEN YOU MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER IT'S IT'S MANDATORY OR WHATEVER.

WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS SOMETHING, WHATEVER

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RIGHT NOW THEY CHANGE THE LEGISLATION WHERE IF THIS SOMETHING HAPPENS AT HOME, THEN THEY'RE DRIVEN TO, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR GOING TO A JJP NOW.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT WHAT THAT TRANSLATES INTO FOR US, UH, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE FIXED COSTS, IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE FIXED COSTS IN PLACE IN CASE THAT NUMBER GOES UP.

YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE PART-TIMERS AND, OH, WE NEED TO GET HERE.

'CAUSE NOW WE NUMBER WENT UP, WE'RE WE'RE LOCKED INTO THAT NUMBER OF BEING FIXED.

AND BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL FOR THAT LEGISLATION CHANGING THIS WHERE THEY POTENTIALLY GET OVERNIGHT BE HAVE 50, UNFORTUNATELY YES.

SO MUCH LIKE THE JUVENILE PROBATION, UM, BUDGET AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE COULD HAVE, UH, TWO KIDS IN DETENTION OR WE COULD HAVE 12.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

AND WE'RE ALSO, NO, GO AHEAD.

UH, THAT WE ARE, UM, REQUIRED ON THIS TO, TO ADOPT THIS BUDGET AND, AND AGAIN, BEING ON THAT BOARD, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A, A, A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

UH, ASHLEY, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON THAT AND I THINK WE, WE TRY TO REMIND YOU AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT SHE'S DONE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, EFFORT IN TRYING TO GET THAT BUDGET, TRYING TO SKIMP THOSE PENNIES THE BEST WE CAN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT BOTH OR DO WE NEED SEPARATE MOTIONS TO DO THAT? ADOPT BOTH THE JUDGE A P AND THE JUVENILE BOARD? THEY GO HAND IN HAND OR UNDERNEATH THE SAME UMBRELLA, PLEASE.

AND WE HAVE NO OPTION.

WE HAVE TO DO IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU? YOU DID MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

COMMISSIONER HOLDS A SECOND OF THE MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES PABLO.

ASHLEY,

[V.M. Special Revenue Funds and Projects. (Brianna Fowler / Judge Deen)]

MOVE DOWN TO ITEM.

ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE, UM, ENGAGED THEM TO DO WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF, UM, THE, THE CUTOFF PERIOD.

SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN WHERE DO YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH ALL THIS? WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL IS A DETAIL OF OUR ARPA PROJECTS, UM, WHAT THE ADOPTED BUDGETS WERE, WHAT THE, UM, INCEPTION TO DATE EXPENDITURES ARE AND WHAT IS REMAINING.

UM, SO AS A REMINDER, ALL ARPA FUNDS MUST BE EXPENDED BY 1231 OF THIS YEAR.

UM, SO IF WE GO DOWN THE LINE, I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF 'EM, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHERE, I MEAN FOR MOST OF THESE, WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED ALL FUNDS ON THESE PROJECTS.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE, UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, AND THOSE ARE WITH OUR BENEFICIARIES, AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, MILLSAP SEWAGE DISTRIBUTION, TOWN OF BROCK.

UM, THERE'S TWO FOR THE TOWN OF BROCK, AND THEN THERE'S MILLSAP MILLSAP, UM, WATER SUPPLY CORP.

AND YOU COULD SEE THOSE HAVE REMAINING BUDGETS.

UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THESE ENTITIES TO REMIND THEM THAT THEY'RE, UM, PER THE MOUS THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM, THAT THOSE, UM, WILL EXPIRE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

UM, WE WERE INFORMED BY, UM, MILLSAP THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR, UM, AN EXTENSION ON THOSE PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT TO BE ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UM, THE REASON WHY WE HAD SET THOSE DEADLINES IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE, UM, REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS, FOLLOW UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS, AND HAVE THOSE WRAPPED UP PRIOR TO THE, UM, EXPIRATION OF, OF ARPA.

UM, AND THEN THE TOWN OF BROCK, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ONLY JUST, UM, A SMALL AMOUNT.

THEY DID REPLY THAT THEY, UM, EXPECT TO RECEIVE THOSE SOON.

UM, WE DID, UH, INVOICES FROM THE VENDOR ON ON THOSE PROJECTS.

UM, WE DID, UM, FOLLOW UP WITH THEM JUST TO ENSURE THAT'S BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

IF NOT, THEN I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULD ASK FOR AN EXTENSION, UM, BEYOND SEPTEMBER 30TH.

AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO, UM, WHATEVER AMOUNTS HAVE NOT BEEN REIMBURSED, AND IN THE EVENT THAT YOU, YOU EXTEND, UM, THOSE AGREEMENTS, WE WILL ROLL OVER THOSE REMAINING FUNDS.

UM, THE ONLY COUNTY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, UM, WHERE WE ARE STILL, UM, EXPENDING THOSE FUNDS ARE WITH REGARD TO THE PARKER COUNTY WATER RESOURCE ASSESSMENT AND PLANNING.

AND SO THAT'S THE WORK THAT, UM, FREEZE THE NICHOLS.

WE'VE ENGAGED THEM.

AND SO I KNOW, UM, KIM HAS HAD, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER WALDEN AS WELL IS JUST REMINDING THEM OF THAT DEADLINE AND ENSURING, UM,

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THE REPLY I GOT IS THAT THEY'RE KEENLY AWARE OF THE DEADLINES AND THEY WILL HAVE THAT IN THERE.

IT SAYS MILLSAP WASTEWATER DISTRIBUTION.

IT, IT'S, I THIS MILLSAP SEWAGE IS ACTUALLY NOT A, A SEWAGE DISTRIBUTION PROJECT.

, ACTUALLY, IT'S A, OH, IT'S .

IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A, UH, A WASTEWATER, UH OH, IT GOT PROJECT.

IT'S, IT'S THE PIECE.

IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTING WASTEWATER, BUT HOWEVER, UH, UH, THEY, THEY, UH, UH, WERE NOT, THEY HAVE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING NOW SO THAT THAT PROJECT IS GONNA BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH, SO THEY WILL BE PROGRESSING.

AND SO WE DID HAVE SOME BACK AND FORTH.

AGAIN, IT'LL BE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, NEXT WEEK.

UM, JUST REMINDING THEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WOULD NEED THAT DOCUMENTATION.

AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT.

UM, THE ENGINEER THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, ANYTIME WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS, NEED ANYTHING, THEY'RE VERY, UM, RESPONSIVE ON GETTING US THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WAY WE CAN PROCESS THOSE.

UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME YELLOW HIGHLIGHTING ON HERE, UM, AND WHAT THAT IS.

UM, SO ON A COUPLE OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, THERE, THEY CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

UM, SO THE TOTAL OF THOSE PROJECTS IS $4,948 AND 79 CENTS.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR THE COURT IS FOR THOSE FUNDS, UM, TO MOVE THOSE INTO THE RADIO PROJECT THAT WE CAN, UM, PUT THOSE AGAINST A CHANGE ORDER THAT WE WOULD'VE PAID OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND FOR MOTOROLA.

UM, AGAIN, ALL THE FUNDS HAD TO BE OBLIGATED, UM, BY 1231 OF 24.

UM, AND SO IT DID SAY IF, IF A CONTRACT ALLOWED FOR CHANGE ORDERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SHIFT SOME FUNDS IN BETWEEN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, UM, DURING FISCAL YEAR 25, WE WOULD'VE PAID SOME OF THOSE CHANGE ORDERS.

AND SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND BACK THAT FUNDING WOULD BE TO APPLY IT TO THE RADIO PROJECT.

I GUESS IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK TO PUT THAT IN PRECINCT ONE INSTEAD.

THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF.

WE, WE SPENT FOR THE PROVISION OF, UH, GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES, WE'VE EXPENDED ALL OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON ANOTHER ALLOWED ARPA PROJECT.

SO I THINK THE RADIO PROJECT IS PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO YOU OF PUT THAT'RE, PROBABLY.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES MY VOTE.

AND THAT IS ALL ON THAT ONE.

ANYTHING ELSE ON SPECIAL REVENUE? OKAY,

[VI.A. Present/Discuss/Approve Precinct Fund 50 and Funds 1-4 for Budget FY 2026-2027. (Judge Deen)]

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FIVE.

EXCUSE ME.

PRESENT, DISCUSS THE PRE PRECINCTS FUNDS 50 FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET.

26 27.

UNDER ITEM MAY PRESENT, DISCUSS APPROVED PRECINCT FUND 50 AND FUNDS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR BUDGET 26.

IS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT ITEM? NO.

ITEM B CAP AND NINE CAP ON BUDGET REQUESTS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

DIDN'T THINK SO.

UNDER

[VI.B. Capital & Non-Capital Budget Requests. (Kim Rivas / Judge Deen)]

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? KIM? PROVIDE THE SUBMISSIONS, UM, IF YOU ALL WANNA VOTE ON THEM.

SO, PRECINCT ONE IS REQUESTING $21,500 TO, UH, FOR SMALL TOOLS AND SAFETY EQUIPMENT, NON CAP ITEMS, SOLE MOVE.

MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER LEY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER A.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, .

UH, PRECINCT TWO HAS A, UH, THREEQUARTER TON CHEVROLET PICKUP WITH A UTILITY BED FOR 66,000 7 97.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THE ABOVE.

ALSO A GRAPPLE TRUCK FOR 309,834.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HOLTZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR.

CARRIE .

AND, UM, ALSO A BUDGET OF $2,800 FOR SMALL TOOLS.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN PAPER.

UM, JUST ONE MOMENT.

PRECINCT THREE IS REQUESTING A SKID STEER FOR 76,945.

MOTION IS, UH, THAT'S, THAT IS PENDING THE GRANT APPROVAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THE FAVOR.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BUDGETED WHETHER WE GET IT OR NOT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT CURIOUS

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ABOUT.

ALSO, PENDING GRANT APPROVAL WOULD BE A RUBBER TIRE LOADED FOR 230,000.

BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

AN EXCAVATOR FOR 400,000.

MOTION MEMBER COMMISSIONER HALE.

BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SE BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

AND DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.

A, A TRACK LOADER, I'M SORRY, A TRACK LOADER FOR 450,000.

MOTION SHALL BE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

S COMMISSIONER HOLT, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIE A DUMP TRUCK FOR $530,438.

THOSE AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL PENDING.

PENDING GRANT APPROVAL? YES.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN SINGER BECAUSE YOU'RE HOLDING ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION GARY CNG INFRASTRUCTURE FOR 1.2 MILLION, WHICH IS ALSO GRANT FUNDED AND WE'LL PAY 50% OF THE AMOUNT PENDING APPROVAL.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR .

UH, FOUR $450,000 FOR AN ELECTRIC DUMP TRUCK THAT WILL BE COVERED AT A HUNDRED PERCENT IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WAL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOLT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, CARRIE BY BILL, AN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION FOR THE ELECTRIC DUMP TRUCK FOR 300,000.

MOTION BE BY COMMISSIONER.

PAID ALSO.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOL.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? THOSE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

GRANT ADAMS? YES, SIR.

CURIOUS ABOVE VOTE.

AND THEN A, AN ELECTRIC HAUL TRUCK FOR 564,198.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

HOLD ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

CURIOUS ABOVE VOTE.

PRECINCT FOUR HAS REQUESTED A TRACTOR WITH BRUSH HOG FOR 74,000.

MOTION SHALL MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY COLEY.

THE DISCUSSION? ALL THE FAVOR.

CARRIE .

A FORWARD F-150 FOR 57,000.

MOTION SHALL BE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SAY BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

AND DISCUSSION.

ALL FAVOR CARRIES PABLO TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT NON CAP FOR 2,500.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE, SAY BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

AND DISCUSSION, ALL OF FAVOR CARRIED DEPARTMENTAL EQUIPMENT, NON CAP, NON NON DETAIL FOR $6,000.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

CARRIE PALBO AN ADDITIONAL $6,000 FOR OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND FURNITURE NON CAP MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HALE.

END OF DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR CURIOUS VO, CBS AND ANTENNAS FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF RADIO EQUIPMENT AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT ON CAP.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HA.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

CARRIE VO TRIVAX SUITS IVX SAFETY GLASSES.

GLOVES FOR $2,000 IN THEIR SAFETY EQUIPMENT NON CAP LINE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THE PAPER.

HERE'S FIVE OH SIDE STEPS, TOOLBOX, HEADACHE RACK AND GRILL LIGHTS OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE.

EQUIPMENT NON CAP FOR $5,000.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HA.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES VO.

TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALL, UM, PRECINCTS REQUESTS ARE TOTAL OF 4,000,756 AND $14.

I UM, SO ONE THING I WANNA NOTE, AND I KNOW BIANCA WILL BE WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU, UM, TO FINALIZE YOUR BUDGETS, ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE GRANT FUNDED THAT HASN'T BEEN AWARDED, UM, WE WON'T BUDGET THAT REVENUE UNTIL AWARDED.

SO WE'LL CERTIFY THOSE FUNDS.

SO ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT WE'LL CERTIFY IT, WE'LL PUT THE GRANT BUDGET AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES.

BUT MY, WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IS ANY GRANT WHERE THERE IS A MATCH COMPONENT, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT, I WOULD CONSERVATIVELY BUDGET THAT MATCH AMOUNT EITHER IN THAT LINE OR BUDGET.

YOUR CONTINGENCY ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COVER, UM, THAT MATCHING PORTION BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WON'T BUDGET THAT GRANT REVENUE UNLESS IT'S AWARDED, UNLESS WE HAVE ANYTHING.

UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, TURP SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THOSE VEHICLES TO COME IN.

SO WE'LL LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT

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HASN'T COME IN THAT WILL ROLL THE GRANT FUNDS.

BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T BUDGET THAT REVENUE UNTIL AWARDED.

ONE OF THE CHANGES THIS TIME IS THAT FOR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, UH, THEY WILL PRE-FUND IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE GET THE APPROVAL.

SO THE ADVANCE FUNDING, WHEN WHEN WE GET THE APPROVAL, THEY WILL, THEY WILL ADVANCE FUND, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN IN THE PAST.

IN THE PAST WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT AND GET THE REIMBURSED AND THEN GET REIMBURSED LATER.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE NOW.

NOW THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND THIS CYCLE THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND SEND THE MONEY.

OKAY, GREAT.

JUST WANTED TO NOTATE THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT, I MEAN EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT FUND BALANCES, BUT JUST NOTATING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE BUDGETING THAT REVENUE UNTIL, UNTIL WE RECEIVE MM-HMM .

BUT OF COURSE PLEASE ENSURE THAT IF ANY, UM, MATCHING FUNDS ARE NECESSARY TO BUDGET YOUR, UM, PROGRAM CONTINGENCY WITH ENOUGH FUNDS OR THE LINE THAT YOU WOULD BE MAKING THAT EXPENDITURE OUT OF.

UM, WE WOULD MOVE DOWN TO ON ITEM C, ON ROAD BRIDGE ALLOCATION.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE? NOTHING.

UH, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN AND ADJOURNMENT.

I FOR MOTION.

MOVE BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY SECOND.

KIM.

KIM'S GOT ONE ADDITIONAL THING BACK THERE.

SHE'S WAIVING BUT KIM, THAT BETTER BE QUICK, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.

JUST SAYING.

SO ENTER A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, REQUEST.

WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF ADJOURNMENT ? NOT YET.

UH, SO BOTH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND JP TWO OFFICE HAS REQUESTED A BUDGET FOR BULLETPROOF GLASS TO BE INSTALLED IN THEIR OFFICES FOR $25,000 AT EACH LOCATION WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR OFFICES, IN THEIR CLERK AREAS.

WELL, AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IT WOULD BE IN THE FRONT AREA WHERE THE, THE, UM, RECEPTIONIST IS.

AND IN THE JP TWO OFFICE IT WOULD BE AROUND THE CLERK'S GLASS AND THEY ARE UTILIZING SOME OF THE GLASS THAT CAME OUT OF THE OLD PD BUILDING.

UM, BUT IT JUST IS GONNA HAVE TO BE CUT DOWN AND, UM, INSTALLED.

SO 25,000 TOTAL OR EACH, EACH EACH.

50,000.

I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS AND DISCUSS IT NEXT TUESDAY.

AGREED.

JUST WANTED TO BRING IT ALL TO YOUR ATTENTION.